Nightcap - Hour 1: Knicks Steal Game 3 + Luka in "Championship Shape?

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Club Shay Shay: Nightcap - Hour 1 Summary

Episode: Nightcap - Hour 1: Knicks Steal Game 3 + Luka in "Championship Shape?"
Release Date: May 26, 2025

In this episode of Club Shay Shay, NFL legend Shannon Sharpe engages in a deep dive analysis of the New York Knicks' impressive comeback in Game 3 against the Indiana Pacers. Joined by basketball analysts Jalen Rose and Liberty City, the hosts dissect key moments, player performances, and strategic decisions that defined the game's outcome. Additionally, the conversation touches upon Luka Doncic's current status and his prospects for leading his team to championship glory.

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1. Game Recap and Highlight Moments

Shannon Sharpe opens the discussion by summarizing the dramatic turnaround the Knicks executed:

"As you watch the New York Knicks stay alive 106 to 100 over the Indiana Pacers, they battled back from 20 points down in the second quarter..." (05:00)

The Knicks showcased remarkable resilience, overcoming a significant deficit to secure the victory, thus altering the series to Pacers leading 2-1.

2. Player Performances

Carl-Anthony Towns emerged as the star for the Knicks, delivering a sensational performance:

"Carl Anthony Towns was sensational. 24 points, 15 rebounds, 3 from the three-point line. 5th all-time with 2010 playoff games for the Knicks." (05:30)

Jalen Brunson also made a notable impact, contributing 10 points, eight rebounds, and four assists, despite playing fewer minutes due to the starting lineup adjustments.

3. Knicks' Resilience and Strategic Play

The hosts commend the Knicks' ability to maintain composure under pressure:

Jalen Rose: "They banded together, they believed in themselves, and they made plays when they absolutely had to." (07:00)

Shannon Sharpe highlights the coaching adjustments made by Knicks head coach Thibodeau, particularly in managing player rotations and maintaining offensive flow.

4. Indiana Pacers' Challenges and Defensive Adjustments

The Pacers faced criticism for their offensive stagnation in the second half:

Shannon Sharpe: "Towards the end of the second quarter, they took their foot off the gas and came out in the second half without the same energy." (06:15)

Discussion revolves around Pascal Siakam's reduced aggressiveness and the team's struggle with shot distribution, leading to inefficient scoring.

5. Coaching Strategies and Adjustments

Both coaches' strategic decisions were dissected, emphasizing how pivotal substitutions and defensive schemes influenced the game's outcome.

Shannon Sharpe: "They stretched their group out and brought Brunson back at the right moment, showcasing better in-game adjustments." (10:05)

6. Luka Doncic's Championship Prospects

The conversation briefly shifts to Luka Doncic, addressing his current form and readiness for championship contention.

"Luka's made significant public appearances recently, signaling his commitment to being in 'Championship Shape.'" (67:50)

Hosts speculate on Luka's performance trajectory and his role in leading his team towards future successes.

7. Future Implications and Series Outlook

As the series stands at Pacers leading 2-1, the hosts discuss possible scenarios and the necessity for pivotal wins in upcoming games.

Jalen Rose: "If the Knicks can maintain their bench's performance in game four, the series could become more competitive." (15:55)

Shannon Sharpe underscores the importance of sustainability in performance and strategic depth as the series progresses.

8. Conclusion

The episode wraps up with the hosts emphasizing the Knicks' potential to bounce back and the critical adjustments the Pacers must make to regain their advantage in the series.

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Notable Quotes and Timestamps

• Shannon Sharpe (05:00):
  "As you watch the New York Knicks stay alive 106 to 100 over the Indiana Pacers, they battled back from 20 points down in the second quarter."

• Jalen Rose (07:00):
  "They banded together, they believed in themselves, and they made plays when they absolutely had to."

• Shannon Sharpe (06:15):
  "Towards the end of the second quarter, they took their foot off the gas and came out in the second half without the same energy."

• Shannon Sharpe (10:05):
  "They stretched their group out and brought Brunson back at the right moment, showcasing better in-game adjustments."

• Jalen Rose (15:55):
  "If the Knicks can maintain their bench's performance in game four, the series could become more competitive."

• Shannon Sharpe (67:50):
  "Luka's made significant public appearances recently, signaling his commitment to being in 'Championship Shape.'"

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Timestamps Reference

For clarity and ease of navigation, here are the key timestamps referenced in the summary:

• 05:00: Game Recap and Key Moments
• 05:30: Carl-Anthony Towns' Performance
• 06:15: Pacers' Second-Half Performance
• 07:00: Knicks' Resilience
• 10:05: Coaching Adjustments
• 15:55: Series Outlook
• 67:50: Luka Doncic's Status

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Transcript

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Jalen Rose]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, personally, I think it was more about what the Pacers didn't do, obviously. Okay, go. Towns made some big, big shots, you know, on the 4th, but I just, it just seemed like, you know, towards the end of the second quarter, they took their foot off the gas and they came out in the second half and they didn't have the same energy. I mean, you look at the, look at the game, the building wasn't even as ignited as it was in the first half because the energy was low. So, you know, the thing that I, I look at when I look at this game is where is the, what is the best players doing? You know, Tyrese Halleberg, he has to take over the games, right? When you see your team struggling and you see that, you know, the offense isn't flowing as well, I think he, he tends to take the backseat a little too much and, and, and like that. So he, he has to, he has to do a better job on saying, hey, this is my team. You know, we need it, we need a moment here. And I got to be the reason why. And I thought that didn't Happen today he had, I think he made. But for the most part, you know, the energy was low and they didn't compete, you know, when the Knicks did in the fourth.

[Jalen Rose]

I agree with you sometimes. I do believe that Halle gets, he's not as aggressive as I need him to be now he only had six assists. That's because the guys couldn't buy a basket. I mean you look at the shot Pascal was, he was 50% from the floor. So was Miles Turner. But you look at neesmith, he was two of eight, one for three from the three point line. Miles Turner was six or 12 from the floor, but he's one for six from the three. Nemhard was zero of three from the three. Halle was two or six from the three. And so when you go five or 25 from the three point line, that's not, that's, that's a recipe for disaster. And when the team gets it going, hopefully we can get some of this in the Western Conference and all of them won't be blowouts. 20 points and 40 point blowouts. But I thought the Knicks, that second quarter, the end of the second quarter, that last three minutes, Jermaine, I thought that was big for them because they could have went the other way. Instead of being down 13, they could have been down 33. And now maybe we're having a different discussion, but give those guys credit. You're on the road, you're in a hostile environment. You've already lost two home games. They banded together, they believed in themselves and they made plays when they absolutely had to make plays. And you know, Jaws, Jalen Brunson is going to have his hand all over it. He's going to find a way to get to the free throw line. That's just the way he is. And I, I would have wish they, they probably should have in employed the hacker Robinson earlier. You know, I, I, I foul him once I see the momentum starting slipping.

[Liberty City]

Yeah.

[Jalen Rose]

Oh no. You got to go to the free throw line and make those shots. Oo you watching this game and you see the Knicks come back from 20 points down.

[Liberty City]

Yeah.

[Jalen Rose]

And win this ball game. What did you like about the Knicks resilience on the road?

[Liberty City]

Listen, I like the fact that they kept fighting. I like the fact that they kept fighting. Jay, they need to find a way to stop being down by 20, stop making the game that much more difficult for you. I don't understand how or why the way the Pacers played the first two games. Right. Why not do what you did tonight the previous two games? You played before, for one, you were playing at home. You had an adv. You had the advantage. Now you play a much better game. Even though you're down about 20, you play a much better game and you're playing away in a hostile environment. And then I think the key to the game also was when you. Not only were you down by 20, but to be able to come back into the game. Were they able to do the last, what, five or six minutes of the fourth quarter? Halliburton missed a step back. The sequence where it was. The sequence where I think it was maybe 3 minutes and 16 seconds on the clock, where the goddamn. The Patriots, they had nothing but six points with multiple possessions at that. And I think it was in that matter, in that fact, in that instance in general where the Knicks took advantage. That goddamn Jalen Brunson. Hey, I'm keep something nice. People might.

[Jalen Rose]

He gonna get to that free throw line. He might struggle from the floor, but he gonna find a way. Jayl to slow get to the free throw line.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It was a key moment in this game. You know, let's put aside what the Pacers didn't do and lean more on what the Knicks did. And it started to me from the coaching side. Right. Okay, you go Back to Game 1. The Knicks went on a run. They were up 17. Thibodeau makes a sub. Right. Sometimes when the team is rolling, the very best player doesn't necessarily have to be a part of that because sometimes you can sub and stop the floor of the game. Right. You fast forward to tonight, right. Where the group that he had in there, they actually did a really good job on cutting it. And he stretched that group out to. They cut it to I think, three or, you know, possibly even two. And then when he needed to bring him, I think he brought BRUNSON Back like 2 minutes and 20 years ago in the game. So I thought the coaching part of it was a lot better tonight when it comes to this chess game, you know, which we see in the playoffs.

[Jalen Rose]

And, and, and, give Tiv credit. He went with a big lineup tonight. He started Mitchell Robinson. He went with Cat because Mitchell Robinson give them extra possessions. And so that's what we need. We need more than one possession. And so you know what he said, Mitch, we going to lean on you tonight. We're going to play 29 minutes. He played 29 minutes. I thought he was sensational. Brought Josh Hart off the bench. And I thought, you look, when you get it rolling like that, it's hard to break up Momentum like that. Because if you look at the second quarter, he let Carlisle, he let him go. Those were not his regular guys in there. He let them go. And I thought the Knicks took advantage of that. They ended up clawing it back and getting it down to 13. I thought McBride came in and made a couple of big shots. He had a big time. 3. He had a big time pull up. He's doing a little thing. He's a better, He's a very good defender if you look at it. Ocho, we've been talking about this. They normally play seven guys. They played nine tonight.

[Liberty City]

Nine tonight.

[Jalen Rose]

Landrew Shame got 11 minutes. Darrell Wright got 13 minutes. Josh Hart played, you know, he normally plays a little more minutes, but he came off the bench, he played 34 and McBride gave you 15.

[Liberty City]

Hey, J. Oh, you say, you say Halliburton, especially in, in, in. I call it pressure situations. You know, at the end of that game, you say Halliburton, take over. But if you look at what the Knicks were doing, the hell the Knicks was doubling Halliburton on all high screens and forcing the ball really out of his hands and leaving the onus of someone else on that team to have to, have to shoot or get their points from somewhere else. And they, they, they wasn't hitting Seattle the ball over.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, they didn't, they didn't. I mean, the office didn't flow very well. So I agree with you.

[Jalen Rose]

They, they did.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And again, it's a chess match right now, right. You know, they're going back and forth, they're trying to take the ball out of, you know, certain people's hands. The thing, the difference that I saw tonight early in the game, I think the first half, the Pacers bench outscored the Knicks bench, I think 22 to 7. In the second half, the Knicks was a plus, I think 15 or 16. So the floor, the game was a lot different for the Pacers early. I thought the Pacers got a lot more stagnated, you know, in the second half. And Ocho, to go back to what you were saying, what makes Halliburton really, really good is when they're moving that ball, swinging that ball, catch him, he catching the ball, you know, on the last. A live pass and he's going downhil the second half. You got the second half, it was super stagnated. They got bumped up against the shot clock a lot and the ball didn't necessarily end up in the right people's hand at the right time. Right.

[Jalen Rose]

Yeah. I thought he held onto the ball, the ball stuck a little bit, a little bit too long on his hands tonight. Jail. I like when Halbert when they're getting make or miss getting the ball off the rim and they're pushing tempo, that's when they're at their absolute best. And it doesn't matter if h has it, if ne hard ne Smith. It does not matter who mahen. It doesn't matter. They're looking to push tempo. That's when they're at their, at their best is when they're getting up and down. I thought Halley did a little bit much dribbling tonight. I thought he was, you know, he wasn't like, I'm going to go to the basket, no, let me back it out again. And now he's getting off the ball at 10, at 10 seconds now. Hey, don't nobody because it's really hard when you really look at it. Who's really looking to take somebody off the bounce cum. Everything else is really set up by Halliburton doing a great job of getting penetration. They played a lot of pick and roll. You know, like to get in the high pick and roll with Miles Turner. He can, he can roll to the basket or he can hit the pick and pop. But I thought tonight, I thought Halle might have held onto the ball just a tad too much. But he had some guys that had some good looks at the basket tonight. Joe, they just didn't go down for him. Five or 25 is not well. Clearly that's not good enough when you're shooting 20% from the floor from the three point line. But when you play it, you've got to win this game. You're at home. You done stole two games on the road. You've got to win the first game back. Jail. And it happened to him against Cleveland. Remember, Cleveland did the same thing to him. They take the first two games in Cleveland. They come in there, they get. But Cleveland really, Cleveland took the game from the, from the tip. And I look at this camp and say, damn, man, the pace is about to go up three zero on the knees about to go up three zero. And then I'm like, hey, y' all getting real sloppy with this basketball now. There's still two and a half quarters to go now. Hey, don't let this thing slip away. And then they cut it right. They cut it right before the half. They got it down to 13 and they, and I think the Knicks were thinking, we got it manageable now. Yeah, we got it manageable. If we come out Ocho we come out here. Two threes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Jalen Rose]

Hey, this thing under 10 and we was down 20 just five minutes ago.

[Liberty City]

Hey, they got to find a way to stop being down in such a deficit, having to crawl back and fight back from 20. I understand the game of basketball is all about. It's a game of runs, but, like, make it easy on yourself. Don't make every game where, okay, now we got to do everything. We got to be. You got to be damn near perfect and hope the momentum shifts in your favor. Outside of that, I mean, listen, the Knicks bench played really well. It was ugly. It was ugly. Josh McBride, Robinson, listen, they weren't, they weren't flashy, but they outplayed Indiana second unit. And if they, if they can have another game like that when they play.

[Jalen Rose]

Again Tuesday, Tuesday, Tuesday.

[Liberty City]

Listen, if they can have another game like that, especially the bench, we know what the starters are going to do. They have another game like this and tie this series up, it can become interesting again because if they had lost a nice game, I really think it was over. I really think the series was over.

[Jalen Rose]

Oh, it was over. It was definitely. It was definitely over. Jail. If they had lost this game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

100%. 100%. I think the thing where I'm struggling as, as, as a, as a former player, when I look at these playoffs and you see it a lot, you know, throughout the season, time in possession is not a thing anymore in the NBA.

[Jalen Rose]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right. Especially in the playoffs where everything comes down to possessions, right? I'm watching more and more threes being launched, and it almost creates bad threes. Bad threes. It creates rhythm for other teams getting it, and they're gone. And that's the thing why I'm struggling with a little bit. I mean, you go back to the first game with the Knicks, and again, I'm happy that we up 2:1. But when you look at that game, you have 14 with two minutes, and I think at the time it was 47 seconds, right? When you think about this, all you gotta do is get four or five stops and hell, you can get four or five shot clock violations, right? And you win the game. But I look at it tonight, where it's like, every time it's like somebody. There's a. Some sort of rhythm, is. Is. Is happening. A three, a bad three go up, right? Or just a bad possession. And that's the part where I'm struggling with a little bit right now, considering that this is. This is go to the NBA Finals, right? You're in the conference finals, so you should have some sort of understanding on how, you know, to win the game. And the understanding, too, on how to lose a game.

[Jalen Rose]

Yeah, I think we see a lot of that jail. I think sometimes guys get caught low. I'm gonna be the guy to break the rhythm. I'm gonna be the guy to get to hit the big shot that quell their run or push us to. If we're up 5, we're gonna go up 8. If we're up 7, we're gonna go up 10. I'm gonna be the guy that puts the, you know, that says, okay, he hit that big shot. Well, it was the big shot in the corner that such and such hit. But what you do is that you allow them, like you said, you allow them to get a rhythm. You allow them to get a run out on you. And now all of a sudden you're like, bro. And I'm sure in a situation like that, Jayl, you're not telling, hey, man, don't take that shot. You're like, hey, let's just be patient. Let's slow this thing down. But I think the thing is for the pacers, look, it's one game. You said to jail. They're still up 2:1. And we got another game in our building. Now you've given the Knicks life. The Knicks believe that they can beat your ass in your building. Cause they just came back from 20 down, so they believe not anything close going into the fourth quarter. They got you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We got this, man.

[Jalen Rose]

I don't know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know who feels good about what. I mean, obviously the Knicks had some struggles at home. And now the Pacers, you know, they had. When you think about the game Carl Anthony Towns and Brunson did, obviously were fouled. They were in foul trouble. They didn't have a great first half at all. And they walk away with a win right when that game should have been a 20 plus point drumming of the. Of the Knicks. But they found a way to stay in the game. Or the Pacers found a way to keep them in the game.

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[Jalen Rose]

And you look at the Pacers. O, we talk about this all the time. They're committed. And Normally they have six guys in double figures. They had four guys in double figures tonight. N. Smith, two of eight. He only had eight points. You had Nemhard. He was two of nine, zero of three. He had nine points. Those guys normally get you 13, 14, 15. That's how they normally play you. Halliburton had 20. Siakam, look, that was the playoff career high in game two when she had 39. He was phenomenal. I'm not expecting him to have a whole bunch of 30 point playoff games. That's just not the type of offensive.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Player that he is.

[Jalen Rose]

He's a good. He's a good player, but I'm not looking for him to go off like he went off in game two. Again, I don't know about you, jail. I thought T.J. mcConnell was sensational. Maybe you might need to bump those 15 minutes up and give him 20 minutes. Because, hey, he battles, he pushes pace, he makes big time shots. He's a hustler. I love the way he played. But they're kicking themselves just like the Knicks kicked themselves the first game. Because they're like, man, we had Brunson go off for 43, we had Cat go off for 36 and we lose. So now they're feeling good about themselves. They say, hold on, Jalen. Brunson only played 31 minutes. Cat only played 33 minutes. 6 of 18 for Brunson, 1 of 5. Cat was 3 or 7. 8 of 17. They have 47 points and the game. They had damn near 80 points. They lose the game. They had 47 and was in 5 trouble. They win. So they gonna take great consolation in this, on being on the road. Like, look, guys, there ain't no. We saw him do it twice to Boston in the garden, down 20. We saw him be down at home in game three, no game with a game four and come back and win the game and then go close it out. I still like the Pacers. If I'm any of these teams, I like being up 2:1. I don't give a damn how good I played the last game. That other team still have a two one deference. Two one up on us. And we still Got another game in their building.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Now, I'm with you on the McConnell deal. Right. I think, you know, he had 10 first half points, and I thought he had a really good flow to the game early. Then the second half, you didn't see as much of him. Right. You know, he was in there, but it wasn't the same of an impact. I don't know if it's because of just the time or just the rhythm of the game, but I think he can be a very, very important component. But here's my question to both of you guys is when the Pacers get in the funk, offensive like they did tonight, if Pascal Siakam isn't the guy that you go for, they can go for 30 every night, and Terry Saliburton isn't a guy that can be aggressive all the time, then who do you go to?

[Jalen Rose]

But see, that's the thing. When you look at this, they kind of remind me of the Rockets, but a little bit more seasoned because who is the guy that you really want you to take the last shot? Now, we've seen Halliburton hit some big shots, but you said, okay, are we going to get this ball? Are we going to give this ball to Pascal Siakam and let him go get us a basketball? That's not what he is. He's a really good player.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He is.

[Jalen Rose]

And I don't want to try to diminish him here, but I'm not looking at him. A guy that's going to consistently like, you know what we need 25 a night, that's not what he is. Right.

[Liberty City]

Think about what you just asked, right? Is Pascal Siakam. He's struggling late in the game. They doubling Halliburton, forcing him to kick the ball out. Does everyone else. Do the other three players have the green light to be able to shoot at will when they want to in precious situations, situations especially down in that fourth quarter, when obviously who you want, who you want, the ball in their hands, they can't get it done. Do they have the green light to shoot at will?

[Shannon Sharpe]

So I think they do. I think that's what makes the Pacers really good, is the death. When you look at the game that they won, really both games, but in particular game one, I think they had seven guys in double figures. They have four tonight, right? They're going to those others, like Shaq always says, the others, they're going to have to really step up and free Halliburton. Halliburton's got to be aggressive, start to finish, you know, he cannot be passive. He cannot allow double, you know, to, you know, to take him out of the game. I mean, hell, the paces were doubling Brunson in the first two games. And especially in the first game, he had 40, 43. So he's got on the way to really, you know, stay, you know, bite down and stay focused and stay, you know, stay, you know, gritty when it comes to, you know, making sure he's impacting the game and then the rest of the guys will fall into place. But I just felt like tonight they just got a little too tight. You know, when the game was, you know, when the game was, when they went on, when the Knicks went on, they running. They're going to have to get away from that and realize that they are at home. The energy is behind them and that should be able to carry them.

[Jalen Rose]

Yeah, me, Smith, he's going to give you eight. And he's been playing really well. Nemhard's been playing really well. Eight, nine. I thought Mathburn just didn't have it tonight. And it shows in the amount of minutes that he played. I think he thought he came in and got a couple of fouls, picked up a couple of fouls early, and Carlisle didn't have the confidence in him to leave him in the ball game. And he ended up going out. They brought shepherd in. He had a big three. He's mainly a defensive guy that can knock down threes if given the opportunity. But you look at, you look at this team, in order for them to win, they're going to have to have five, six guys in double figures. That's how they've been all year. Jail. This is. I mean, I mean, they're probably looking at it like, damn, we only have four guys. We all. They're one of the few teams that have five guys in double figures in, in the entire playoffs. And then McConnell, you know, McConnell can get you 10. Cause he'll hit a big three. He'll get a couple of steals, get a. And one or something, get the crowd going. But I thought I, I thought those others, Neesmith, Nemhardt, Mathurin, got obi, Toppett, obi, normally, you know, he missed a easy one right there. You know, missed the putback. He'll be better. I think those guys and I think if the guys that they're counting on, the role players that Nismeth the Nemhardt, mappin, obi, I think if they give you what they normally gave you throughout the entirety of the playoff thus far, especially the first two games against the. I think they'll be fine. 20 point comeback playoff wins in 2025. We already have six in the last four post seasons combined. We've only had five.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's crazy.

[Jalen Rose]

And we've seen three in what the last, the last seven games. I mean we saw Boston, we saw Boston give up two 20 point leads and we just saw another one tonight.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I guess the question also comes down to the, the Pacers bench was, was, was. It wasn't the normal self tonight, right? Typically they are the ones that they're going to, they're going to come in and every, every night it's going to be somebody to step up, right? The Knicks bench hasn't been impactful this series, but they were impactful tonight. Biggest question is can the Knicks bench come back again in game four? Right? Because I expect the Pacers to come back and be, be their normal self because Rick Carlisle is a hell of a coach. Had a tour Indiana. He's a huge adjustment coach. I mean one of the smartest coaches I've ever been around. So I know he's gonna have those boys ready to go. But then when it come down to the, you know, you know, to the game itself, with which group, which bench is going to carry their team and if I had to put my money on it, and this is not me being a homer, I'm gonna go with the Pacers because they've done it all year, right?

[Jalen Rose]

It, when you, when you're, when you're down in jail, you played, you played 15 plus years. When you're down, is there a number that you don't feel that you can't come back from? And I know it's different than when you first got to the league because there wasn't a whole lot of 20 point comebacks because teams weren't shooting the three like they shoot it now. A 20 point lead in the first quarter, second quarter, even midway through the third quarter, ain't ish. Because guys can hit, they can get on a roll and hit two or three threes and a layup and what was a 20 point lead now all of a sudden a 10 or eight point lead. And so, so it's a lot different now. But was there ever a number that you take your team got down and you like well, damn. Yep, we gotta get ready for tomorrow.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, this is 15 to 18. It was, well, it was tough to come back back then, you know, that was almost like death, right? If you down 15, 18 points because you know we were gonna. The ties have turned a lot, right? You got offensive flow. The analytics is to me is getting people, getting people fired. I'm a pass, right? You know, this analytics thing is going crazy, bro.

[Jalen Rose]

Got them taking bad threes instead of good twos.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Good twos, right. But I mean, you mvp, sga. He's a mid range killer, right? He's taking, he's taking those tools. But to answer your question, I don't 18 to 20 points in a playoff game. Yeah, you gotta get ready for the next game because you ain't coming back from that. Because most teams won't allow you to. Because it was a defensive minded, the mindset from the start, right? It's how many times we can stop you, not how many times we can outshoot you. And I think that's what's happening in the NBA right now. You're having these huge swings, but, but you know, it was no way in hell, you know, you know, we, we playing somebody or, or, or the Pistons or in New Jersey had Jay Kidd and you know, all the good defensive teams, they were never going to allow you to come back, you know. But now I guess in two minutes you can score. You can score 20 to 25 in two minutes.

[Jalen Rose]

And the problem is also jail is that teams take bad quick shots. I mean, all of a sudden you see a team going a, a, a 10, 0 run in under a minute. Like, what the hell? Hey, I'm just gonna hold the ball, Jay. I'm just gonna hold the ball, let the shot clock run down. I'm gonna give it the ball. I'm gonna let the shot clock run down twice. I'm gonna get, I will get past a minute, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Listen. And the craziest thing that I as a, just a lifer in basketball, wing threes and corner threes create fast breaks and they out off and run over and over. You see the same thing in unbalanced defensive floor. So I'm not even sure exactly what they're teaching, you know, in the NBA right now from perspective of those things.

[Jalen Rose]

But then, you know, they tell them that's the short porch. That short, that short, that corner three. That's the short three jail. But what happened with that carom, that long carom. And next thing you know, the guy, hey, in two dribbles, he already got somebody at the rim. And you're like. And they keep getting. And I understand the Knicks tonight, it's like y' all not hitting them. So we'll give them to you. Y' all not making them right. So 20% 5 or 25. And they had some good looks. It wasn't like they were shooting a lot of contested threes, but some of them were quick.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Jalen Rose]

It's okay. It's. Look, I understand.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Woo.

[Jalen Rose]

This thing wide open. Yeah. There's a reason why you. Wide open. And it's only 24. Only 20 seconds that's going off the clock. Excuse me. Only four seconds going off the clock. Take it down a little bit more. If, if. And I understand. Look, the paces are a flow team, J O. They love to run. They're at their absolute best. And there are very few teams that can keep that pace up with them. Because if you look at who they, who the guys they got, Neesmith, Nemhardt, Mathburn, they're kind of interchangeable. They're kind of like the same guy. Same. About the same height and can get up and down and play. McConnell comes in. Look, now, he's not Halliburton, but he can do a great job of orchestrating your offense. He's a bulldog. He can make tough shots. I love him. He's tenacious on defense, little undersized, but he plays hard. And when you got guys like that, you don't give up a whole lot because you're not asking a guy. You don't see them. I mean, that leading scorer. Who's their leading scorer? Probably siaka. What, 19. So then you have probably got another guy with 17, another guy with 16, another guy with 15, 14, 12. You're not gonna have the disparity where you got a guy averaging 28 and then the next guy closest to him is averaging 15.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Liberty City]

Hey. Hey, J O.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You. You.

[Liberty City]

You mentioned some of the. Some of the adjustments that Coach Carlisle could make. You know how smart he is. So obviously I'm thinking about on the other end with Tim doing something that he normally doesn't do. Normally he plays seven, but tonight, adjustments. I know you're a patience guy. What adjustments you think Tibbs can make to ensure that this game or this series evens itself up next time they play on Tuesday?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. We all know that no matter who we are on that professional roster, when a coach shows trust, we feel confident. Don't feel sped up, we don't feel tight. I thought Tibbs did a hell of a job on showing confidence in his bench and he kept coming back to it. I thought the previous two games he relied too much on Brunson Hounds and the was no side to side. And with Brunson being 61 right. He. No they trapping him every shot is hard I think that Tibbs has to stay with what worked this game with understanding that he may have to make some in game adjustments. But I thought tonight he was good from that perspective. And again, I was sitting there talking to my business manager watching this game. I didn't know who won the battle because it was a tale of two different halves where I just felt in the first half the Pacers looked like the Pacers, right? All side to side. They didn't want good shots, they wanted great shots. Then the second half, it was stagnated. Bumped up against the shot clock. Knicks first half stagnated. Every shot was tough. If you go back and look at the game they were even running, the Pacers had them running their half court offense. Damn. They had the half court line.

[Jalen Rose]

They.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Had them bumped up against the half court line. And then the second half, they got what they wanted. Call Anthony Towns. For the life of God, that boy should start on the box and then move his way out.

[Liberty City]

Hey, you've been saying hey, uncle, you were preaching that for the longest, for years. Preaching for the longer.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know why he shoots all these crazy threes because he does have some work down low. He does.

[Jalen Rose]

Oh, he's skilled.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Jalen Rose]

But I thought the Knicks defense, there are a couple of times that the Pacers got in transition and the Knicks transition defense was sensational. Block them out. Hey, no, you didn't get here, make them pass out. They come back again, say, nope, nope, not doing it again. But I tell you what, when they take Carl Anthony Towns out, they got to do a better job of getting on the boards because Mitchell Robinson has given them too many opportunities, second chance points. And that's what he's in there for. He's in there to challenge. If you get to, if you beat your guy, he's going to challenge you at the rim. But he's also wants to give Brunson, he wants to give those other guys second chance opportunities. And so they're going to have to do a better job of keeping him off the glass. And I think if they can do. And plus also Josh Hart. Hart, remember Josh Hart the other night? Ocho? He only had like five rebounds. He had 10 tonight.

[Liberty City]

Yeah.

[Jalen Rose]

And he had that in the reserve role. So you see, he got better. Nem Hart and, and, and, and, and the other guy and, and N. Smith, they didn't do what they did the first two games. So one guy got better, the other two kind of slid back a little bit. And I think that was the difference in the ball game. He gave, he gave you a great production. 8 points, 12 re, 10 rebounds, 4 assists as steals. It only had one turnover because he's the Swiss army knife. He's the guy that's going to do it all. He's going to take a charge, he's going to give you a second chance point. He going to give you second chance opportunities. He's going to facilitate. Hey, he's a great passer to basketball and hey, he's a good defender. I thought his presence tonight was really, really good. But you're going to have to do a job of keeping Mitchell Robinson off the glass. Too many. He gave the Knicks too many opportunities. I mean, he had three offensive rebounds. Josh Hart had three offensive rebounds. That's too many. Miles Bridges had two. You got to keep him off the glass.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm gonna tell you this, the X factor for me going into game four, he hadn't played well at all this, this, you know, this round. But Benedict Matheran, yep. He's been big for them all year and he's really, really struggled. I need to reach out to my young boy and just. He just need to just relax and let. And play the game. He knows how to play, but he hadn't been great for him. If he comes out and he plays the way he's capable of playing, the way he played this season, it will be difficult, Right. To try to double Halliburton or anybody else.

[Jalen Rose]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think, you know, he's the X factor for me.

[Jalen Rose]

Yeah, I thought, I thought, I didn't think Siakam was aggressive enough tonight. Remember the other night he had what, 23 shot attempts tonight he had 14. Miles Turner had 12. Halliburton has 15, bro. Come on now. Siakam, you just had a 39 point game and you cool with taking 14 shots? Hell no. I'm trying to get me another 39 point game. I'm going to the rack.

[Liberty City]

Hey. Hey. Do you think the players know? Do you think someone keeps track of how many shots they taking? J O. Yeah, yeah.

[Jalen Rose]

They keep track of jail. Did you keep track of how many balls you caught? Did you know how many balls you caught the last game?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold on now.

[Liberty City]

We talk about football and basketball is kind of different. Do, do you, do you really know on the court, JL how many shots you've taken in the game? Do coaches let you know?

[Jalen Rose]

No, I'm just.

[Liberty City]

Or you just have free will.

[Jalen Rose]

Go ahead, Jordan.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you definitely know. You can know because on the sideline almost every time out they have scores, you know, score Sheet where you can go look at, you know, the stat sheet, on what. You know, what you're doing. Typically, you might ask a coach, hey, man, you know what's up? Like, how many shots have I taken? Right? Especially. Especially if you're struggling a little bit. Right, right. You're gonna ask that question because now they got 37 coaches on the roster. You know, if you look behind the bench, somebody have something for. But you are aware on how many shots you've taken and what your stats are, because you always got that one to two coaches that's telling you what's going on in the game because they.

[Jalen Rose]

Want you to be aggressive. He needs to be aggressive. And like I said, and you see when he's aggressive, the guys that are aggressive, that need to be aggressive, Siakam and Halliburton, they're supposed to be your two best players. When your two best players need to play like your two best players and they should never have to be in a feel like they're in a reserve role. Sometimes I feel like Halleberg feel like he's a role player, like he's a bench player. Nah, bro, you an all star. You wouldn't have us earn a gold medal. Be like that. Be him. Be him. Siakam, you just dropped 39, bro. You just dropped 39, took 23 shots to get it, and you cool with taking 14. Nah, bro. Go and try to get that back. Be aggressive because he was aggressive in game two. I'm talking about extremely aggressive.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I guess the question is, you know, when you do away team, you expect it, right? You expect the viciousness, the people talking about your mama, your kids. You expect that when you walk into arena, when you come home, you almost try to be too perfect.

[Jalen Rose]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right. You try to align yourself with being perfect and doing everything right because you don't want to let your home crowd down. And it looks that way. That's why tonight I thought the paces would little too tight. You know, when things got tight, you know, when the game got tight, you know, people wanted to rely on somebody else to do it.

[Jalen Rose]

Versus they overpass the ball jail 100%. I was looking at, bro. Stop shooting the ball. Yep, yep.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wouldn't shoot it. Y.

[Jalen Rose]

Because everybody. I want to make, man. I want to make sure I want to make the right play. No, bro. Shoot the ball. Shoot it. Shoot it. You don't have to be perfect. Ain't nobody gonna call you selfish. Nobody looks at the paces and think this is a selfish ball club because we have too many guys that scoring double figures. So you can't have that many guys scored in double figures. And selfish ball club. We don't think you're a selfish ball club. But you don't have to be perfect. You don't have to be perfect to win. No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

100%.

[Jalen Rose]

And I just thought tonight I thought sometime they overpassed the ball and they ended up turning it over. Hold on.

[Liberty City]

You call it overpassing. What happens? Not being in rhythm. What happened? Not being in confidence. Not having the confidence to shoot the ball at that specific time based on the circumstance of the game at the time. You said all their players most of the time are in double figures. Also, those players are also in rhythm. Also those players are also a little bit more efficient from the field than they were tonight. So there's a little bit more comfortability with taking those shots as opposed to overpass tonight. You know what? I'm not in rhythm right now. Based on the game and the circumstance that we're in right now, I don't want to take that shot. So I'm going to from somebody else.

[Jalen Rose]

Well, you can't feel like that because the ball gonna find you. You ever notice you, you, you ever notice how they put a infield outfielder in the field or infield in baseball? Don't the ball find it? The ball get hit right to him. Somebody get Nick at. Hey, we need a spare receiver. Everybody cover. Somehow the ball gotta find him or the DB when they put a d. A corner in the game, the slot, whatever he is. What, what the ball do. The ball gonna find you every time. So if you un, if you're not, if you're not confident.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Jalen Rose]

Somehow the ball gonna find you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That goes back to what I. This is more of a question for both of you guys. Are you, are you more comfortable at home or the villain on the road?

[Liberty City]

Well, I like, I like, I like being a villain on the road. I like. Hey, I, I, I, I operate very well in a chaotic environment. I'm comfortable being uncomfortable. I, it's, it's weird.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Jalen Rose]

No, I play. I play. I, I think I played my best at home. I just wanted to be, I just wanted to be able to hear the snap count. Cause I've tried to get down the field as fast as I can. And if you notice when they, when, when in track meets, when they say run us to their mar. Everything is hush.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Jalen Rose]

What? Everybody hit a gun, right? I need to hit a gun. I need to hit a hot huh and ball up out of there.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

I agree. I agree. And that's what I thought happened in especially the first game when he came back in, when they were up, you know, I think they're up 17, he came back in and the rhythm, they just looked out of sorts. You're talking about two teams in the top seven, the top eight defensively in the NBA. Right. And so both can guard. And the Pacers, they're physical. They switch everything. They have size. And with Brunson at 6 foot 1, as good as he is with the ball, it's crafty, you know, one of the best guards in the league in the playoff scenario. I think it makes it tough when he has the ball in his hand. The majority of the time he's dribbling, dribbling, dribbling, and he get bumped up against the shot clock. All of a sudden the ball finds somebody else with two seconds, you know, two seconds to go on the shot clock. That's not a great rhythm for two teams that are really good defense. And really both of them are top, the top seven offensively as well. So if you can be top seven offensively, that means the ball moves around. And I thought tonight it was almost a mirror image of a really good offensive team because in the second half the Knicks were able to Move the ball around and people were able to hurt you doing that. And I thought Carl Anthony Towns his best. Even though he hit some big threes, look at how many times he got to the basket. That opens up his three ball because now he's attacking the basket. Now people can't stay in front of. Of it. Right.

[Liberty City]

So I mean to, to. Based on what Jeff Teague said, J.L. you can probably, you know, correct me if I'm wrong. Is there a way that Jaylen Brunson can operate the offense and getting the ball and be quick in getting everything set up. Be, be quick but not in a hurry as opposed. Feel like you rushing things.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I think you gotta, I think walking the ball down, you know, puts him up against the clock from the start. Right. I think getting the ball out, you know, on, in particular on misses, you know, let's get the ball up the court, nothing's there. Boom. Let's get into our offense, let get the. Let's get a really good shot based off our offense. A lot of times when they get caught. If you watch, I want you guys to watch this over the next, you know, hopefully this series doesn't go too many more games. So watch how many times they walk the ball up against. It's hard to walk the ball up against really good defensive teams. Right. Because they're set and they're waiting and they're trying to take everything away. And, and I just think that, you know, with him, with his size and how crafty he is, he has to, he has to put himself in a better position to get into the shot clock a little bit early there.

[Jalen Rose]

Man, I'm looking at this jail. I don't know if you saw these stats. The Knicks only had 13 assists. Bridges had one, OG had two, Cat had one, Robinson had one, Brunson had one, McBride had none, Hart had four, Wright had one, Shamon had two. You score 100 plus points and you got 13 assists.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That is crazy. And I'm looking at that. I didn't even, I didn't know that.

[Jalen Rose]

13 and you got a 100 points. I think you gonna have 13 assist. You're gonna have probably about 75, 80.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's a lot of catch and holding and that's that.

[Jalen Rose]

Yeah, exactly. And see that's the thing. And sometimes, you know, you getting put backs, you letting teams get second chance points on you. Nobody creates an assist for you, that's just you doing the ball. And so it's going to be interesting to see. I'm anxious to see the Adjustments. We saw the adjustments that the Knicks made. Made the adjustment was insert Mitchell Robinson, get the ball out of H's hand. Let's see if somebody else can create offense for, for this team. Leading assist guy was Halley. They had a couple of guys with three. McConnell had three. M. Hart had three. Turner had three. Ne Smith played 26 minutes. Bro, you got to give us, you got to give us. Come on now. Zero assists. Pascal, I need about four or five assists from you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Jalen Rose]

Because you the guy. Because you just scored 39. You. They make them come help you. Make them come double you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Jalen Rose]

See, you're not aggressive. They like. And I know, look, OG is a. Is a very good defender. He got the best of OG yeah. Game two, OG held his own. Game three, OG gave you 16. So they basically played to a, a standstill. But Pascal was minus 21. He's minus 21. He had the, the, the lowest plus minus of anybody that touched the court.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, to. I guess, I guess the magical word for this series is sustainability. Right. Can you sustain what you did in the first half and bring it to the second half and be better? Right. Or at least keep it at the same level? It seems like in this series it's a changing of the guards when it comes to how they're performing from half to half. Right. And so I think that the way the Pacers had it rocking in the first half of tonight, if they can take that same energy and bring it, you know, to the second half, they run away with this game probably by 30.

[Jalen Rose]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And. Yeah, you could say that too. You know, you could say that. I mean, even though the Pacers shot the lights out of it, you know, the first game, but it's just, it's just, it's just strange, man, like these, these, these big swings in the playoffs, right? Where, you know, it's not. You're playing the same team. Right. It's not like.

[Jalen Rose]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got to redo the, you know, scout report. But. But I guess it's kind of the new era when it, you know, it depends on who. Who's going to get hot, who's going to be aggressive, who wants to impact the game, who doesn't want to impact the game, who feels good, who doesn't feel good. It's a lot of scenarios that is coming into play, man, which is, you know, which is unusual for something, you know, this late in the season.

[Jalen Rose]

Yeah. And I go back to a jail and I think this is what happened is that when they got that 20 point lead, I Thought they was going to close it out and probably keep it at 20, maybe even push it somewhere around 30.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Jalen Rose]

But the Knicks had other ideas. The Knicks ended up cutting it. They ended up going like a mini run, and they ended up cutting it to 13. So they had to feel really, really good. 13 is still. Well, Shannon, that's still double digits, but still you were down 20, and in the blink of an eye, you got it down. You got it down to 13. And I thought, like, early in the third, you know, they got it down to 10, and then the Pacers push it back to 15, but then all of a sudden, you see them get that thing down to seven, they get it down to five, you're like, oh, yeah. Oh, now you're at home and your crowd the longest. I can get longer. As long as I can keep the crowd out of it. Joe. I like my chances up on the road team. Now. I done got the crowd out of it. You had him in the crowd. You had him in the game in the second quarter. And now here it is, the third quarter quarter, getting ready to head into the fourth, and they quiet.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Again, I love Terry Saliburton.

[Jalen Rose]

I think he.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He's a hell of a player. I think he's going to just continue to get better. But I didn't see on that. I didn't see out there tonight where somebody was like, yo, you know, give me the damn ball, right? Give me the ball. Right? I'm about to do this. And as a, as the point guard, you can really set the table and set and set the, you know, the chemistry of the team with that mentality. Right. And I just felt like a lot of times you look, he was kind of off ball, and I understand they were trapping him when he got the ball, but he has to be a little bit more aggressive about, you know, the will to want to win the game. And I think he will be because he seems like a really good competitor, but he's going to have to be because now the Knicks feeling like, hey, man, we get this one and we get to go back to the Garden, you know, we're in a great position. And to tell you the truth, it's a must win situation for the Pacer.

[Jalen Rose]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Come game four, they gotta win that game. Because if you go back two, two, now it's the best out of three.

[Jalen Rose]

Yeah, make it hard on yourself.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But the Knicks have a home court. Yep.

[Jalen Rose]

SGA say the Thunder got punched in the mouth by Anthony Edwards in the Wolves. We got punched in the mouth and next game we're either gonna get back up or not. And we'll lose the game. The Timberwolves shot lights out in game three. They hit 57% of their shot. They went 20 or 40 from the three point line, collected 19 more rebounds, had 14 more points in the pound paint. Ant man 30 points in 30 minutes, nine rebounds, five assists, two steals. He was plus he was 12, 17 from the floor, five of eight from the three. Finally got that three ball going because the first two games it was non existent. Plus 36, five and one in the target center this postseason. What you think Jail?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't. There's no way Oklahoma City plays the way they play like. And I think it'll be difficult for Minnesota. Minnesota and will them in that first half. You know, he, he, he just simply willed them. I don't know if Minnesota has the depth to. Because again you got to think in, in, in the playoffs adjustments will come. What happens if they start trapping Antman and then who you go to right? You talking about OKC is one of the best scoring teams. Hell, they said, they said they was historical, you know, historical this year when it came to, you know, margins of victory. Right. That, that came because the, the level of depth when it comes to scoring is probably best in the league. Right. And so I would think that they're going to come back, you know, with a sense of urgency and do the things that they've just completely been doing all year. Right. It's not something that they got to go in and figure out in the locker room, hey, you know, who's going to do what. They just got to get back to doing what they've been doing and then, you know, they're going to be fine. I think they, this is, this is a year that I would love to see them play against the Pacers because you got two teams that play with depth and I think it's ultimately may end up being that way. But I see a series going, being 31 after tomorrow night.

[Jalen Rose]

Yeah.

[Liberty City]

Hey.

[Jalen Rose]

I'm looking at this. I thought, I thought the timberwolves got. Shannon Jr. Came off the bench in 13 minutes and gave him 15 big points. I thought DiVincenzo hit some big threes to keep that lead. Keep that. When Ant man went to the bench, I thought Nas Reed played probably his best game of this short series thus far. Miller came in. I just thought, look. But the keys for them is Ant man to be efficient. And Drew Randall, you look at Drew Randall, he had a really good game. Game one. And then he was non existent in game two. And they got bl on out. He didn't even play in the fourth quarter. They're like, nah, we good. Just go and sit over and get your mind right.

[Liberty City]

Right.

[Jalen Rose]

I mean, you, you. They showed the clip. He's telling family, y' all go ahead and go. We, I, I ain't going back in the game. We ain't about to win this game. I see y' all. Hey, we getting ready to go back to Minnesota. We're gonna give him something there. Randall was 9 of 15 from the floor, 2 or 5, 4, 4 from a free throw line, plus 38 in 30 minutes, 24 points. Ant, man, as I said before, 30 minutes, 12 of 17, 5 of 8, 1 of 2 from the free throw line. He had nine rebounds, six assists, assists, two steals, plus 36, 30 points. When those two guys getting it going now. McDaniels hit some big shot yesterday. I thought he did a good job. I thought he did a better job on Shay. Did a great job of keeping, keeping him off the foul line. He only had four free throw attempts. You know, Shane, normally somewhere in that 10, he could easily be 10 to 13 attempts a night. I thought he did a great job of keeping him off the foul line line, making it tough on everybody. Rudy Gobert had his best game, although he only had seven points. But I thought the bench for Minnesota was sensational last night, and they needed to be, because that's where OKC. You look at OKC's bench, when they come with Caruso and they come with Wiggins and they come with Wallace and.

[Liberty City]

They come with Isaiah Joe, they don't miss a beat.

[Jalen Rose]

They, hey, they got the other Jalen Williams. They, they. They're deep. They gonna play. They're gonna play 10, 11 guys. Dagn did not have a problem playing, playing it, playing his guys. He believe him like, we've been playing them all year. Why are we gonna get to the playoffs now and cut our bench, increase those guys minute, get them tired and put them in situations they're not used to being in all year. So I like his philosophy.

[Liberty City]

Hey, and. And also, you know, to piggyback on what JL said about obviously them making the adjustments for Anthony Edwards to stop him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Obviously.

[Liberty City]

What are they going to do once they trap him? Well, obviously. And you got to know that coming out already that they're gonna make adjustments to try and stop you and having to kick from everybody else in the bench has. They have to find a way to play the exact same way they did this game. Shannon Jr, how you say it? I don't and ain't got to be aggressive again, trap or not. Hey, Unk, there were games you went into. You know this double team is coming.

[Jalen Rose]

Yep.

[Liberty City]

I don't, man. I don't see none of that.

[Jalen Rose]

But you know what?

[Liberty City]

He has to have that same mentality that he had this game.

[Jalen Rose]

He got aggressive. If you go back and look at him with the Lakers, there are a lot of times he had like 12 assists. He had nine assists. He trusted his guys. Now if you let him slip through the crack, he going to the rim. Every time he going to the rim. But the thing that I like about him, he is very unselfish. He will give the ball up now he's gonna give the ball up. If you're knocking down shots, Y. His mentality is you're not knocking down shots and we losing. Let me go in this phone booth and put this cape on and see what I can do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right. Well, I. I'll say this. I will say this. And again, every player in, whether it's NBA, NFL, Major League Baseball, NHL, those are the very best athletes in the world, right?

[Jalen Rose]

Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Just start there. Don't be. I want nobody. People be like this, man, on this.

[Jalen Rose]

Guy on the bench.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He ain't good. Nah, he's good.

[Jalen Rose]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He just ain't better than the ones you know.

[Jalen Rose]

That's out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's out there. Right, right, right, right. I will say this, and you almost saw it happen tonight. If Carl Anthony Towns don't go for 20, you know, in that. In that. In that fourth quarter, if you put people. It's. It's one thing about, you know, having a, you know, having an opportunity to get, you know, to get. You're having yourself a night, right? But in the playoffs, if you have yourself a night night, then the next night it's going to be a script for you. Which island Basketball. Right. And so from that perspective is, can you have the will and endurance, mind, body and soul to come and have another one when typically that hadn't been your role? Right. And so that's the difference. When I see teams like Indiana, teams like okc, where they've hit, they've, you know, all season long, depending on that depth, and they've been every night somebody goes to 25 or, you know, 22, right? It's been consistent. And you hear them talk, they always talk about the numbers, right. We trust our teammates. You look at Minnesota, you look at the Knicks, right? Do they have that right? Do they have that on a roster where somebody off that bench or somebody that's not Carl Anthony Towns or Ant man or Julius Randle, you know, that can, you know, Jalen Brunson that can come off the bench and be that factor, the remaining, the remaining of. Of the, of the. Of that series. I don't know. I don't know if they have that right. And that's the biggest question. You know, we about to find out.

[Jalen Rose]

What are you expecting in game Game four? Because the first three games have been a snooze fest, right? They haven't been close. It's very disappointing. I mean, 42 points plus 20. I mean, you're like, bro, these are supposed to be the two best teams in the Western Conference, and they're losing by an average of probably 20 points a game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Game.

[Jalen Rose]

That's not good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Again, I'm not even. I. I love the offensive flow of things, right? I think offensive high numbers is. Is good, but in the playoffs, I think defensive strategy, right, is the most important part. That we should be seeing more. To get beat by 40 or 30 plus in the playoffs is. Is crazy to me.

[Jalen Rose]

Crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's fucking crazy to me, bro. I just, I can't digest that. And I'm, as a. If you watch, and I'm watching as a fan, I'm like, yo, how does this happen? You know everything about this roster, right? I mean, the Wisconsin report is immense. I mean, you guys know football. You know exactly what.

[Jalen Rose]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Everything. Quarterback hold the ball like it's. It's like. You what?

[Jalen Rose]

Rousey like to run the splits. He liked to run him from down in distant area of the field. Red zone backed up, middle of the field formation, everything trip set, two by one, three by one, empty backfield.

[Liberty City]

Then, you know the funny thing about. And, and then J. Even though you have all that information that you need, you can have all the information you need and study, watch film, but you still got to execute it once you get out there.

[Jalen Rose]

Absolutely.

[Liberty City]

You gotta execute it once you get out there. And that. I'm. That's why I'm hoping. I. How I see. I see the neck game going. I think the Wolves are probably going to win again. But it has to. It has to. It has to come from the exact same way it did the first time. It all start with him. It all started. They better win somebody there right away. You got to be aggressive because if you lose this next game, you go.

[Jalen Rose]

Down three one, you're going home. When you go back to OKC.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I think it was 100%. It's a must win for both Minnesota and Indiana, right? Wow. It's a must win, bro. I think you put too much at risk if you don't win those games. And I was damned impossible. You know, Minnesota not about to go to OKC and win down three one or even win the series. But you know, it's interesting to see, you know, what's happening. I like games like tonight where the score is tight, the energy is, you know, everybody's sitting on the edge. Nobody want to see a game where the damn commentators got to make up stuff to talk about, you know, in the third quarter, right?

[Jalen Rose]

Yeah, but that's crazy. Yeah, they talk about when they played way back when. No, let's keep the focus on this game. Right? But I mean you got to. And sometimes that's you got. That's why, that's why you got to be great at storytelling killing because every game is not going to be nip tuck. And then you got to find ways to try to keep the fans entertained the best you possibly can.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Jalen Rose]

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[Liberty City]

You think that's AI?

[Shannon Sharpe]

AI? That's what is. No way.

[Jalen Rose]

Hell, if he launched that rig that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Fast and why the hell he ain't doing it during the season?

[Liberty City]

Hey, that.

[Jalen Rose]

That's. That's what I. Hey, I don't. I don't care what he look like right now. I'm talking about when he come back to play. That wouldn't look like this when he come back to play.

[Liberty City]

Hey, hold on.

[Jalen Rose]

Hey.

[Liberty City]

Hey, uncle you. Hey, Uncle J. You think he took that Olympic.

[Jalen Rose]

Olympic, huh? Nah, nah, he ain't on. No, I don't. You can't. I don't think you can take that as the NBA player.

[Liberty City]

I have a question. Okay. You can't take that as an NBA player, Right? How many weeks they been out? They've been out of season. What, three? Two, if that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It ain't been that damn long for him to look like.

[Liberty City]

It ain't been that long for you to lose all that weight like that. He probably took that Olympic stuff.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm telling you, man, you know what's crazy? Like, I've watched him. Like, when you watch him play with his national team, he always looks thinner.

[Jalen Rose]

He does.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Then he comes back to the United States and it's like he's eating yeast rolls and pasta.

[Jalen Rose]

But American food, I mean, you look at Europeans, they're not as big as American. Americans. Yeah, it's up about the food.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hell, eating a lot of.

[Jalen Rose]

I mean, you don't. I mean, if you go. If you go to Europe, you're not gonna see as many. And you know, people that's. That's a little heavier. You don't see a whole bunch of them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, so he's doing something. I don't know if it's the.

[Jalen Rose]

Now J.L. you know this. Their bodies are going to be. Their bodies. They're not going to be sculpted. They're not going to have abs, they're not going to have caps on their shoulders. They're not going to have their. That muscles. They all look alike. I've never seen a European player with muscles. You look at Jokic, you look at Luca, you look at Manu, you look at Zubots, you look at any international player. Tell me the one. Sabonus. Tell me the one you say, okay. Caps on his shoulder, ripped up calves. They just. That's how they look?

[Shannon Sharpe]

There's only one That's Giannis, that I. I think is.

[Jalen Rose]

Is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Jalen Rose]

Giannis got that Nigerian base. There's a difference. You know, my base is. Is based in Nigeria, so he. He coming from the foundation. That stock, right, is a little different than what the Europeans, what Y. Luca and Jokic and Manu and all those guys came out of. But he looks good. But like I said, I don't worry about a guy right now. He ain't got to play for another four, five months. I want to see him look like this when he come back.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, it's. It's strange that he would say that at now if it wasn't a lot of truth to everything we heard coming out of Dallas. Yeah. And you know, when you look at him, you got kinesio tape everywhere.

[Jalen Rose]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Like, he. He.

[Jalen Rose]

He's not at 25. I mean, not at 20. You should have kinesio tape. You shouldn't be, hey. Put together like, hey, like my grand. Like my grandma coffee table when we growing up. You shouldn't look like that. You know what I'm saying? We had that black electrical tape holding up everything thing. No, but I'm saying he had Kenisio tape at 23, 24. He's 26 now. I'm like, bro, why you need all that to hold you together?

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you remember now he missed 91, 92 games the last two seasons.

[Jalen Rose]

Yeah, right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He's missed a lot of games at an early age. And, you know, it clearly is something behind when you let a talent like that leave at 25 years old, it's a hell of a lot of things gotta be happening behind the scenes, you know, to say, you know what, we're not even going after draft picks. You know, we're not. We just want to go get, you know, get. Get one player that basically, it's a one for one, one for one. And we. And we ain't gonna have no more conversations. So that. That said a lot. But you can see what Dallas trying to go with it. It's a risk. You got him number one pick this year. We'll see how that turns out. You know, with the rest of the bigs, I do believe that they're gonna have to probably move some other. Some. Some pieces to bring on another piece. So you're not gonna have Kyrie to start next. Hell, you probably won't have Kyrie the first half of the season next year.

[Jalen Rose]

Exactly. I don't think Kyrie coming back till in January.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, you know, he Do a lot of. He do a lot of meditating and a lot of, you know.

[Jalen Rose]

Yeah, I mean, it's easy on him. He got a torn acl and it's not like it's a big man that he's got to get up and down. Kyrie is thin, framed. I mean, theoretically he could, I mean, it could be seven months because when he teared that he tore his knee in what, late March.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Jalen Rose]

So April, May, June, July, August, September, October, October, November, December. Yeah, I see him probably coming back late December. Probably early, early January. Jail.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he hadn't. But if you think about it, he hadn't been a player that will rush back anyway.

[Jalen Rose]

Nope.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right. In his career. So he's, he's going to make sure he's, he's ready to go. But again, when he's right, he's, he's, he's one of the best players.

[Jalen Rose]

Oh, he's spectacular in the world. What do you think the Lakers need to do? What if they're big? If there's somebody you think the Lakers can get or should get in order to give them a great opportunity, Opportunity to compete for a title. Because at this point in time, I mean, that's all LeBron is really playing for.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Here's, here's my question is, can the Lakers be the Lakers with LeBron having the ball in his hand at a lesser level? Right. Can, you know, and even with Jokic, I mean, I mean with Luka, you know, can you have a third person that can take some of the pressure off of. Of those two? Right. Because the thing, the problem is when those two have the ball in the hand the majority of the time, and obviously LeBron is a different monster. You know, he can make things happen, get downhill, but the ball does stop. And so can you have somebody else that make life easier for those two? Right. Because LeBron is 40 plus years old. Right. He's not going to be able to have to. He's not going to be able to carry the load like he's typically carried, even though he can still go for 30 or 40. But you're going to need a third person that can really make things easier. And I'm not sure how they do with the cap issues that they have, but we'll see. But I don't think they have enough right now. I think they're going to be 7, 8th, 9th playing type of deal if they don't make a move.

[Jalen Rose]

Oh, they got to make a move. I think the thing is, first of all, this is what we know LeBron is better without the ball than Luka. Luka cannot play off the ball. LeBron can play off the ball because you're not putting Luka in the dunker spot. You're not going to do. There are certain things you're not going to do. A and prior to this playoffs, Austin Reeves was that guy that gave him a break because we saw Austin reeves go get 40 against Indiana and without Luka and LeBron. So I don't know what happened. The reports are that he had an injury, he got nicked at some point in time late in the season or maybe got nicked in that playoff series and he wasn't as impactful as he needed to be. I thought they had an opportunity in game. What was that? Was that game three? Yeah, game three. But he ended up playing LeBron in 46 minutes and he just wore him out. You got to get. Bro, you play. First of all, LeBron had already played like 41 minutes in game two. And then you turn around and burning 46 in game three, you got. Look, I don't care what 40 year old. He cannot. There ain't been a 40 year old created that can play for in a playoff game after coming off a 41 minute.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But that's what that's. So Phoenix had that idea of that third person being Bradley Bill. Obviously Bradley Bill hadn't been healthy, but I'm talking about an impact player there, you know, coming in and supposedly having that, that level of impact on the team where those guys, you know, hell, maybe Brian be able to take a couple more nights off. Right?

[Jalen Rose]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And impactful. I just think, you know, right now it's only downhill now because Brian is putting up so many significant numbers from perspective of just scoring, having to score, assist, rebound, set the table to turn the bus on, you know, feed the kids.

[Jalen Rose]

Yeah, he's still 24, 8 and 8. But the problem is they need to be big. Yeah, because you can't start Rudy at the 5 and LeBron at the 4 or Bron at the 5 and Ru at the 4. Because you see Rudy Gobert look like Shaq 20, 27 and 24. You can't. They're. They're just too small. Jackson Hayes, you can only. I mean for whatever reason, JJ's like, hell, the hell with it, Jackson, we're not going to even play you in game five. And he only played marginal minutes in game four. So with that being said, I thought the Mark Williams, I don't know why they, they, they nullified Detroit trade, but I thought he would have been a big addition for them. Jail because they need a big. Luka leaves a law threat. If you go back and study Luka, look at Luka. He's his best when he has a law threat.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, but I'm gonna tell you right now, man, like, I don't know, I don't know why the NBA is getting away from the veteran stuff.

[Jalen Rose]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got a guy like I use Dwight Howard, he always seemed to be in shape, you know, looking for a guy to get rebounds, block shots and defend him.

[Jalen Rose]

And he did a better job against Rudy Gobert and Jackson Hayes or anybody else did 100.

[Liberty City]

A bigger body too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Bigger body, right. And he's, and, and he's a savvy veteran. He's been one, one of the best defenders, you know, all the time when it come down to protecting that rim and, and rebound the basketball. But you know, again, most teams don't seem to want to go get better in players and they don't. I'm not sure, you know, the NBA needs to, needs to put in a rule right now because if you want the product, when you talk about the issues with people watching the NBA and, and you know, and, and the, you know, ratings going down, it's because you got the young leading the young. So you don't have, you know, you don't, you don't even have to have. You can take a role of a player, coach role, right. And take that off, off the cap. You know, the NBA can do anything, right. If you get the union, they can make it work, put people in place that helps develop, you know, and you got, you look at Jackson Hayes and they had another, they signed another Alex Lynn. Alex Lynn, right. If you bring.

[Jalen Rose]

Yes, he, he should be, he should be the tallest high school or college coach next year.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, this. But that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. If you have, let's just call it Dwight Howard, let's use him for example, right?

[Jalen Rose]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You have somebody in there mentoring this, these, these young boys and, and getting them and having them understand the importance.

[Jalen Rose]

Of everything they do or supposed to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do then you in a better situation.

[Jalen Rose]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You're not saying you got to go pay them $5 million, but just, you know, just don't, don't, don't put a better on, on, on keep him off the team because you have to pay him a little bit more because he's a veteran.

[Jalen Rose]

Just create a role or Java or Javale McGee. Javale McGee was available.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's What I'm saying, bro, why not?

[Liberty City]

I mean, so, so is the NBA doing similar to what the NFL is doing also? They really going young. They really going young and doing away with all the veterans outside of.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Liberty City]

Quarterback. A specific quarterback that is still getting opportunity to play regardless of age, but. Right, like the NFL. The NFL. NBA.

[Jalen Rose]

Yeah. Because, you know, the minimum OO with a certain number of years is a million dollars. Well, I can get a guy right out of College or a first year guy and pay him 300, 400,000.

[Liberty City]

Right.

[Jalen Rose]

Save 600. What's. But what's 600,000? When you bring, when you get, when you making 300 million, right. I don't get that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I guess what the question in basketball, I mean is, you know, do you, do you really want to win? I mean, does it matter? I mean, you know, most, most of the, you know, you, basketball is not like football where you have historical, you know, families that's involved with these teams. Right. Basketball is not that. Right.

[Jalen Rose]

Basketball.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Matter of fact, the majority of the NBA now is new ownership. Right. And so from a perspective, you know, what is it that, what is the real purpose? Right? Is it, you know, invest into, you know, invest into a team, let the value grow, then sometime down the road.

[Jalen Rose]

Sell it, get up off it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Jalen Rose]

That's. Yeah, because that's, that's the difference. Because if you look at the NFL, a lot of these, a lot of these owners now, some of these owners now have other things, but for the longest time, Jo and Ocho, these were family runs, business. These was mom and pop shops. That's all they had. Now you look at guys, team people that buy teams. Now that's not their number one business. That team is not their number one business. Yeah, the Aldersons that just bought the Dallas Mavericks, they're gambling. That's their number one business. You look at a guy that bought the Sacramento Kings, you look at Steve Ballmer who bought the Clippers, that was not his number one business. Now that's what he does now. But he's worth a hundred billion. Yeah, so he spent two. So that's not what it is. Not like the NFL. It's not like the Hunts. Now the Hunts have other things, but it's a family. But for the most part, NBA is a lot now they're not family. These young, these tech guys, these guys that made money, money investing in Silicon Valley and things like that, they're the one that's buying the team. They're not like, I don't know, I'm Trying to think who's the oldest. So you're not gonna find somebody like the, like the McClasky that owned the bears. Her dad, Virginia McCasky, she just passed away. Her dad, George Hallis, founded the Bears, passed it down. You ain't gonna find that in the NBA. You're not gonna find the Rooneys like the Steelers since 1933. You're not gonna find that like the.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Mars stolen by the Knicks. Was the Knicks down to him?

[Jalen Rose]

No, he had, I think. No, he, I think he had his dad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

His dad. Yeah, that's something.

[Jalen Rose]

He may be the only one, but he might. Yeah, he might be. No, what you call him, Genie bus, her dad. 70. I think he bought the team in 79, so he might be the longest standing. That was the dad, right? Yeah, he passed it down here.

[Liberty City]

The Brown stuff, huh?

[Jalen Rose]

Yeah, but we know Jimmy had. Yeah, no Bingles, Mike Brown, he got passed down to his dad. You might earth say he took over from his. For his dad. So they just passed, pass it down. Now these, these tech people coming in there with 4, 5, 6 billion dollars and it's, it's, it's gone. Yeah, yeah. You know, the Waltons just, you know, brought the Broncos. I mean he's worth a hundred billion. What's, what's a hundred. What's, what's 4 billion to him? We just saw Josh Harris, he just bought, he just purchased the Commanders last year over six, what, six and a half billion. He also owned the 76ers. So it's not, it's, it's different. It's, it's a different time now. But I agree with you, Jo. I think they should have a, the vets on the team to help these young guys understand and navigate their way through. I think they, I think they're doing a better job job. The PA of both PAs of having guys understand money. Like, bro, you're not a doctor, you're not a lawyer, you're not going to have a 20 year career.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Jalen Rose]

The average year, the average career is about three and a half years. Three and a half. So even when you factor in Tom Brady that played 23, and you factor in Peyton Manning that played 18, 19, and Drew Brees and Rogers and all these guys, a lot of guys just playing one year. A lot of guys not even playing at all. So it comes with whittle it, Whittle it down to three and a half years. Yeah, bro, you gonna be 25. And that's the job that you're probably gonna have for the next 20 years. It's not gonna be in the NBA, the MLB or, or you know, whatever the case may be, whatever the profession you starting in, there's a good chance by the time you're 25, you're gonna have another job and it's not gonna be a professional athlete.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I think too, man. You know, football is obviously significantly different than basketball, right? You guys draft for exact need. Yes. And every pick is a valued pick, right? Sometimes right now in basketball, you know, they're drafting, you know, best available even though you might have, you might draft the point guard and you got three already on the roster. Right. And so, you know, I think that's the difference in basketball where you know, when you talk about those two or three years or four years, it's a changing of the guard happening in the NBA because you don't get a lot of time. And if they send your ass down to the G league and you're a lottery pick that already telling you where you at and what they thinking.

[Jalen Rose]

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