Nightcap - Hour 1: Lakers beat Nuggets, Vikings are making McCarthy QB1, & Cam

Summary

Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Episode Summary Release Date: March 20, 2025

Hosts:

• Shannon Sharpe: NFL legend, 3x Super Bowl champion, Pro Football Hall of Fame member.
• Chad Ochocinco Johnson: Former NFL wide receiver, known for his vibrant personality and insightful commentary.

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1. Game Analysis: Lakers vs. Nuggets

The episode kicks off with an in-depth analysis of the Lakers' recent victory over the Denver Nuggets, highlighting key performances and strategic moves.

• Luka Doncic's Stellar Performance:
  Chad Ochocinco Johnson praises Luka's versatility, noting his "31 points, nine rebounds, seven assists" (08:15). He emphasizes how Luka set the tone early in the game with a "20 point quarter and a 20 point half" (02:45).

• Lakers' Strategy and Execution:
  Shannon commends the Lakers for maintaining tempo and not "playing down to the level of competition," despite missing key players like LeBron James and Rui Hachimura.

  "They set the tempo early. They didn't play down to the level of competition." — Chad Ochocinco Johnson (05:30)

• Nuggets' Struggles Without Key Players:
  The absence of Jamal Murray and Nikola Jokic significantly impacted the Nuggets' performance. Chad points out that without their star players, "the Nuggets scored 31, 32 points in the third quarter, fourth quarter, but it wasn't nearly enough" (09:56).

• Turnovers and Their Impact:
  A critical moment discussed was Luka's turnover in the second quarter when he attempted a behind-the-back pass, leading to Nuggets' momentum shift.

  "Turnover. And that's what allowed the Nuggets to make this run." — Chad Ochocinco Johnson (11:25)

2. Minnesota Vikings: JJ McCarthy as QB1

Shannon and Chad delve into the Vikings' decision to solidify JJ McCarthy as their starting quarterback, moving away from potential trade talks for Aaron Rodgers.

• Vikings' Commitment to McCarthy:
  Chad expresses approval of the Vikings' stance, stating, "The team plans to add a veteran, but they're not pursuing Aaron Rodgers at this time. McCarthy now enters the offseason as QB1" (16:05).

• Pressure of Expectations:
  They discuss how rising expectations can hinder performance, drawing parallels between McCarthy and past quarterbacks like Sam Darnold.

  "Expectations is the number one killer of goals and dreams." — Chad Ochocinco Johnson (18:40)

• Personal Development and Support:
  Chad highlights McCarthy's growth and the importance of support from veteran players.

  "You could tell he's a student of the game. You can tell he put time in on his game." — Chad Ochocinco Johnson (12:00)

3. NFL Playoff Seeding Changes

The hosts examine proposed changes to the NFL playoff seeding system, which prioritizes regular-season records over division championships.

• Impact on NFC North:
  The proposal could alter the seeding for teams like the Lions, Vikings, and Packers.

  "Based purely on the record, the Vikings would have been the number three seed." — Chad Ochocinco Johnson (59:21)

• Critique of the Proposal:
  Both hosts express skepticism about the practicality and fairness of the new system, suggesting it might only apply to anomalous seasons.

  "It's not likely, right? It's not like maybe another decade, 20 years, 30 years." — Chad Ochocinco Johnson (60:46)

4. Coaching Changes: Byron Leftwich Joins Colorado

Shannon and Chad discuss the addition of Byron Leftwich to Colorado's coaching staff, emphasizing the blend of his quarterback experience and coaching expertise.

• Leftwich's Background:
  Chad praises Leftwich's tenure with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and his ability to mentor young quarterbacks.

  "If you have the ability now, just because you go to Colorado, if you ain't got the ability to play in the NFL, I don't give a damn." — Chad Ochocinco Johnson (66:41)

• Colorado's Coaching Strategy:
  The team has also hired Hall of Fame running back Marshall Faulkner, aiming to bolster both offensive and defensive strategies.

  "They're putting together a great staff... being able to play at the elite level." — Chad Ochocinco Johnson (67:00)

5. Jamar Chase and T. Higgins Negotiations

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to the negotiations between Jamar Chase and T. Higgins, key receivers for the Cincinnati Bengals.

• Valuing Chase and Higgins:
  Chad underscores the importance of compensating players based on their contributions, advocating for Chase and Higgins to receive salaries befitting their performance.

  "They made him play under the tag. He caught Nate, but he still had double-digit touchdowns." — Chad Ochocinco Johnson (54:43)

• Impact of Management Decisions:
  Criticism is directed towards management for not adequately rewarding Chase and compelling Higgins to stay.

  "They cheated. I'm glad they finally [honored Chase]." — Chad Ochocinco Johnson (55:39)

• Joe Burrow's Influence:
  The influence of Bengals' quarterback Joe Burrow in negotiating and ensuring Chase and Higgins remain pivotal to the team's success is highlighted.

  "Burrow applied private pressure, making it clear deals must get done for both." — Chad Ochocinco Johnson (56:31)

6. Final Discussions and Q&A

In the concluding segments, Shannon and Chad engage in light-hearted banter, discuss personal anecdotes, and answer listener questions.

• Oratory Skills and Influential Figures:
  Chad reflects on influential speakers like Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., Malcolm X, and Frank Sinatra, drawing parallels to effective communication in sports and life.

  "In order to be a great orator, you must have a cadence." — Chad Ochocinco Johnson (75:29)

• Listener Engagement:
  The hosts address listener comments and share humorous interactions, fostering a sense of community among their audience.

• Closing Remarks:
  They wrap up the episode by promoting their merchandise and expressing gratitude to their listeners for their continued support.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• "They set the tempo early. They didn't play down to the level of competition."
  — Chad Ochocinco Johnson (05:30)

• "Turnover. And that's what allowed the Nuggets to make this run."
  — Chad Ochocinco Johnson (11:25)

• "Expectations is the number one killer of goals and dreams."
  — Chad Ochocinco Johnson (18:40)

• "It's the number one killer of dreams and goals. Because the moment someone expects something of you, see, that's the only way you can hurt me, Ocho."
  — Chad Ochocinco Johnson (18:40)

• "After that, teams would be stacked by their records, regardless of whether they won the division or received wild card berths."
  — Chad Ochocinco Johnson (59:21)

• "If you have the ability now, just because you go to Colorado, if you ain't got the ability to play in the NFL, I don't give a damn."
  — Chad Ochocinco Johnson (66:41)

• "They cheated. I'm glad they finally [honored Chase]."
  — Chad Ochocinco Johnson (55:39)

• "In order to be a great orator, you must have a cadence."
  — Chad Ochocinco Johnson (75:29)

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Conclusion

In this episode of Club Shay Shay's Nightcap, Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco Johnson provide insightful commentary on recent NBA and NFL developments, emphasizing the importance of player performance, management decisions, and the impact of expectations on athletes. Their dynamic conversation offers listeners a blend of professional analysis and personable banter, ensuring an engaging and informative experience.

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Hello ladies and gentlemen and thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap, brought to you by Boost Mobile. Visit your nearest Boost mobile store or boostmobile.com to join their nationwide 5G network today. Thank you guys for staying up late with us tonight. We probably should have gone at the third quarter. The game had gotten out of hand. But lesson learned moving forward, anytime we come on after a game, if the game is a blowout, we will start the game early. So I know we said we posted that we're going to go after the Lakers game, but we probably should have gone ocho after the third quarter. But that's a lesson learned. Please make sure you hit that like button. Please make sure you hit the subscribe button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed. Wherever you get your podcast from. I'm your late Unc Shannon Sharpe. That's your late nephew, the Liberty City legend, the Bingo Ring of Fame honoree, the Pro Bowler Route Runner extraordinaire, the All Pro. That's Chad Ochocinko Johnson, thank you again for staying up late with us. We know it's late on the East Coast. We greatly, greatly appreciate you staying up with us. Make sure you go check out Shea by La Portier. Thank you. Savannah. You guys showed up. You showed out at the liquor warehouse and Habersham Liquor. We really appreciate that support Savannah, surrounding counties. We really appreciate that. We do have Shea by La Portier in stock now. If you can't find it in a city or state near you order it, we'll ship it directly to your door. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Please go follow my media company page on all of his platforms that Shay Shay Media and my clothing company 84 with 84 being spelled out, everything has restocked. The link is pinned at the top of the chat. Supplies are very limited and once they're gone, they're gone. So please get yours while supplies last. Lakers beat the Nuggets 121 oh8 win their first straight game. During the five game homestand yoke, Jamal Murray was out. LeBron Rui was out. Luka 31 points, nine rebounds, seven assists. Luka is his 230 point game. He had a 20 point quarter and a 20 point half. So he had it going early. Austin Reeves had it going early. Ocho, I mean for the like the first quarter they could not miss a three. They had 45 points in the first quarter, stepped off the gas a little bit in the second quarter, let him get back into the ball game. Stepped on the gas again on the third quarter, blew the game open. I think The Nuggets scored 3132 points in the third quarter, fourth quarter, but it wasn't nearly enough. Yoke, excuse me. Luka 31 points, nine rebounds, seven assists. His 230 point game. Austin Reeves had 22.8 assists. But I thought the Lakers played really well. They set the tempo early. They didn't play down to the level of competition. Knowing two of their best players without and sometimes you get that. Ocho, the warriors made that mistake the other night. They looked at it like oh Murray not playing. Oh Yoke not playing. And the next thing you know you find yourself with an L hung on you. But watching the game, Ocho, what you thought about the Lakers and how they.

[Unknown Speaker]

Look tonight, I mean it was impressive. It was very impressive. Not only did Luka come out and set the tone in the first quarter with 22 in the first quarter, actually he said Luka set the tone for the game. What he did in the first quarter, coming out with 21 points in the first half, in the first quarter. And everybody, everybody played well, most of the time what happens is when you play a team that doesn't have a player like Murray playing and the other Joker, what's his name?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Joker. Okay.

[Unknown Speaker]

Jokic. Jokic. I don't know why I keep calling him Joker. Jokic playing. You play down to your competition. Most of the time you end up losing similar to how the, how the Warrior did the other night. But obviously the Lakers didn't do that. They did slow down at some point, but it wasn't enough for the Nuggets to get back in the game and they eventually ended up winning the game. So, I mean, it was a good game. Obviously the superstars are out. You would have liked to have seen Jokers playing and Murray, LeBron healthy, Luka playing. Just to see a team in full strength, to see what the game would have been like.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I thought the Lakers, I thought JJ had a good game plan, but when the shots are playing, damn the game plan. I thought they moved the ball early. I think sometimes the Lakers get careless. There are times. Look, you just have to accept Luca is going to try some things. I mean, he's going out of bounds and he tried to throw a pass behind his back. Turnover. And that's what allowed the Nuggets to make this run. They started turning the ball over in the second quarter.

[Unknown Speaker]

Hold on, what he did, what he did going out of.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What? He's going out of bounds and trying to throw the ball behind his back to a guy right there for the basket. I was like, lord have mercy, Luka. But that's Luca. You have to accept the good with the bad, right? Because listen, that's his game, that's how he plays. And you gotta think about, be willing to roll with it.

[Unknown Speaker]

You gotta think about it when it comes to him. Now, you do some things you don't like. You gotta accept the good with the bad. But there's more good than bad when it comes to him when he's playing.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, for sure. Arkansas. Man, AR has been great. I like this game. But you could tell, and you look at him from the time he got there to where he is now, he's immensely better. You could tell he's a student of the game. You can tell he put time in on his game. You can tell that it's important to him. And that's what I like to see. Regardless of the sport you play, it needs to mean something to you. You gotta wanna get better you can't rest on your laurels. Yeah, he got a three year contract, probably paying him like 13, 14 million dollars. He said, Nah, I want one of them big daddies, I want one of them two hundies and he gonna get it. And he would have earned it. Yeah, he would have earned it. And you see why the Lakers were so unwilling to part ways with him. Everybody in every trade always tried to include him. And a lot of trades broke down because the Lakers were unwilling to part ways with him. They saw the improvement, they saw the match, the, the maturation. Getting better from the three, getting better at finishing at the rim. Got Niles handles, he's putting the ball on the floor. Got the nice snatch pool. He's really, he's turned himself into an all star caliber player. And I understand that there are a lot of great guards and you know, you gotta get by Steph and you got Ja and you got Shay Gilgis and you got Harden, you got some Kyrie, you got some really good guards in, in, in the Western Conference, right. But man, the way he's playing, he's an all star caliber, you know, he's an all star caliber player and he can handle the ball. LeBron has trusted him for a very, very long time. If you go back and look at that Memphis Grizzlies series, he actually won him a game. LeBron's like, Nope, don't give the ball to me. You take it, go win the game for us. And he's done that. So I just love the way he's improved, how he's gotten better. And this Laker team, I think if they get healthy, I think they can be dangerous. I still think they're a big short, but hey, we'll see what happens when the rubber needed to meet the road.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, wait, listen. You know the game of basketball very well. So does everybody else. Everyone else with the knowledge of the game of basketball has said the same thing about the Lakers. They don't have a big. In order to compete, in order to go as far as you need to go, you're going to have to have a big. And they, they just don't have it. But we can see, we gonna see what they can do with that two headed monster. Once, once LeBron comes back, we'll see what happens.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Well, cause they're gonna be small once Jackson Hayes goes out of the lineup. They're small. I mean, Coloco is okay. Yeah, a little small. Height, okay, height's fine, but he just don't have enough bricks in his back pocket. And so they, you know, people can just uproot him and just move him off it. Move him off the spot.

[Unknown Speaker]

Spot.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. But, you know, I mean, and there are gonna be some times that probably LeBron's gonna have to slide to the five.

[Unknown Speaker]

Ooh.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And you know, I mean, because really, if you really think about it, there's not a whole lot of guys that have, you know, Rudy Gobert is not going to cause you any damage. Basically, you know, they got Hardenstein, they got Chad Horgan, but when you look at Memphis, Zach Eady, he's just a big body. He just sits, screams and stuff like that.

[Unknown Speaker]

Taking us to the basket.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker]

Taking the space.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So you look at the teams now, he can be a problem for the Rockets.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yes, sir.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, he's an all star. He's an all star for a reason. But like I said, I like the Lakers. LeBron gets healthy. Luka is Luka. Come playoff time, he has the third high scoring. No, he has the second highest scoring average in playoff history. With that being said, LeBron, healthy. LeBron is a top five in playoff history as far as scoring. They can do some damage, but I just wish they had another big. I don't know why they signed Alex Lynn.

[Unknown Speaker]

Hey, hey, Uncle. You ain't been too high on Brother Lin, baby. What's wrong with Brother Lin?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He, he, he. He's about. He's probably about 35 days away from being the tallest coach in history. That's his next profession. It ain't gonna be in the NBA. It's gonna be coaching basketball somewhere, maybe high school. Ocho. The Vikings are set to roll with J.J. mcCarthy.

[Unknown Speaker]

Thank you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Not pursue Aaron Rodgers.

[Unknown Speaker]

Thank you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

The Vikings have rejected multiple Trade calls for JJ McCarthy, telling other teams they're moving forward with him as their quarterback. The team plans to add a veteran, but they're not pursuing Aaron Rodgers at this time. McCarthy now enters the off season as QB1. That's.

[Unknown Speaker]

That's a good thing. That's a good thing. And listen, I don't like the way Aaron Rodgers is using the leverage, using his past, his accolades, his resume and what he's done in the past. The whole team steadily at hostage, hostage. Now, some of the reports might hold him hostage.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Move on. Oh, well, they're allowing him, just like Green Bay allowed him to do all the things that he did. The jets allowed. Right, Green. They allowed it. The jets allowed it. Just move on.

[Unknown Speaker]

And that's, that's exactly what they should do. Now, this is what I like about Minnesota. The reports came up the reports came out about Minnesota obviously being in the hunt for trading for him and what they did right away. It ain't even been two days. Oh, we gonna nix that real quick. We don't have time to play them games with you. So obviously you haven't learned your lesson with the last two places you've been to, because now here you go tell the other teams you're not sure on what you want to do yet. Having them wait, using the leverage that you do have, the little bit of leverage you still have to play games. I'm glad the Minnesota Vikings came out and said what they said. They're going forward with J.J. mcCarthy because you drafted him for a reason and you understand what he can do, especially with the supporting cast he has around him, because you saw what Sam Darnold was able to do. He wasn't able to do it with the jets, he wasn't able to do it with the Panthers. But all of a sudden he comes to Minnesota and he has a career year and that's. It's time for JJ McCarthy to step up and do the same damn thing. And that's what he's probably going to do because what he has around him is very, very special.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, well, you got to find out what if the guy can play or not, Ocho.

[Unknown Speaker]

Well, he.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, you keep kicking the can. You keep kicking the can down the road.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, but listen, even if he couldn't play, we didn't think Sam Donna could play either when he was with the Jets. We didn't think he could play when he was with the Panthers. But all of a sudden, magically, he turned into goddamn Houdini over there in Minnesota.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But we saw what he looked like the last two games of the season. Because, see, there's this thing called expectations. Yeah, you tell me. Because think about what you just said. You didn't think Sam Darnold was going to do that. Nobody thought Sam Turner was going to do that until expectations came along. And then expectations came along. Oh, we got to get the number one seed. And then what happened? Oh, we're in the playoffs. Then what happened? He turned back into Sam Darnold. You see, expectations is the number one killer of goals and dreams. Because the moment someone expects something of you, see, that's the only way you can hurt me, Ocho.

[Unknown Speaker]

Hey, you got.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

If I don't expect anything, if I'm in a relationship and I'm just casually, I don't expect nothing. Hey, you. Do you. I'm going to do me. It's the moment we have expectations in each other, that it bothers me, that it hurts me if you do something that I don't agree with.

[Unknown Speaker]

See what I mean?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So the Vikings started to have expectations. We started to have expectations for Sam Darnold.

[Unknown Speaker]

And you see what happened now you was preaching a little too fast. Now, I'm not sure the people in the chat I'm not sure the people in the chat didn't catch that, but that was a moment. That was a moment a lot of people might have missed because we're talking about football. But that's something that could apply to life that I think a lot of people missed. But I didn't miss it because as soon as I heard it, you know, I keep that thing on me.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, you keep it on you.

[Unknown Speaker]

Expectation. Now bring that to me again and I got to write it down. Now, when we get to the end of the year, what I'm going to do is I'm going to take all these quotes that I wrote down and I'm gonna make a nightcap booklet called Quotes so people can apply it to life expectations. Just get it to one more time.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, it's the number one. It's the number one killer of dreams and goals. Because here's the thing, Ocho, Sam Darnold, nobody. Because they're like, man, he was terrible with the Jets. Well, he was terrible with Carolina. Well, we didn't get an opportunity to see him really, at San Fran. So everybody was expecting, remember the last two stops that they saw him, that he wasn't that good.

[Unknown Speaker]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay. So now he doesn't have any expectations. The more you win, the more expectations come along with that. So now the last couple of games of the season, Ocho, we got the opportunity to get the number one seed, right? Boom. Oh, we're the playoffs now. Don't matter. Blah, blah, blah. Boom.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah. And you know that, hey, that playoff atmosphere is different now. That's a whole different ballgame than playing. Than playing in the regular season. Regular season, he looked phenomenal. It's a different type of pressure. Again, the one word expectation that comes with being the quarterback, especially in that type of situation. So I kind of understand. And the team you are playing or had to play.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, but that's what happens when you have expectations, Ojo, like I said, and I like to equate things to relationships because most of the people, especially not Chad, has been a relationship.

[Unknown Speaker]

Can't relate to it. Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It's the moment you have expectations. You see, when a couple's In a. In marriage, there's an expectation you're going to be faithful. I'm going to be faithful. Oh, I'm going to protect you. You're going to protect me?

[Unknown Speaker]

Come on, now.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm going to honor the vows that we stood before God and we swore to each other. Now, I have that expectation. But, hey, if you say, hey, what you doing tonight? I ain't gonna be able to see you tonight. And everybody, there's like. There's no expectations. I have no obligation. You have no obligation to me. I see you when I see you. Yeah, holla. What I holler.

[Unknown Speaker]

And you know what I don't like about. You know what I don't like about the analogy and explanation that you giving me right now is the marriage one normally doesn't, but the one with their no expectations. Hell, you'd be friends. You be. You be. You'd be sneaky links or whatever you want to call it for years and years and years and years all the way down the line, because there are no expectations. So there's no failure or reason for anything to ever end.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But here's the sneaky part, though. It's your way to get you. You see, the number one. The number one cause that will cause a relationship to end is uncommunicated expectations. You see, Ocho, she expected you to get her flowers, and you didn't get them. Why didn't you tell me you wanted flowers? You expected her? She expected you, Ocho, to plan this vacation, right? You didn't know she wanted to go on a vacation. Uncommunicated expectations.

[Unknown Speaker]

I like that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Ocho thought that. You know what? Hey, she gonna do this thing for father's Day. We gonna do it up, blah, blah, blah. She didn't do it. You see? Uncommunicated expectations. But again, uncommunicated. But what's the end part? Expectations.

[Unknown Speaker]

I like that. I haven't heard. I haven't even heard that word before. Not used in this context and actually used together. Uncommunicated expectations.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes. I like that she has an expectation, but she didn't communicate them with you. You have an expectation, but you didn't communicate them with her. So those uncommunicated expectations and what happens. A lot of times, people have what we call incompetent, implosive personalities. They hold things, hold things, hold things. There's only so much you can hold before it explodes. The term. Oh, he went postal.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah. Boom.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And so now, instead of just saying, well, you know, Chad, I thought that we were gonna do this, right? No, One month go by, two months go by, three months go by, four months go by, and it's building.

[Unknown Speaker]

Wait months.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You don't know. It's not been communicated. So you don't. It's building, it's building, it's building. Boom. Then it blows.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You've been with me all this time. You should have known. How many times you heard that, Ocho?

[Unknown Speaker]

All the time.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You know what I like?

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, all the time. All the time. Because you've been with him a certain amount. You've been with someone for a certain amount of time, and you know women all the time. Oh, I know you real well. I know you real well. I knew what you're going to say. You can say something, Uncle. Yeah, he can finish the sentence for you, but all of a sudden, when it comes to certain stuff. Oh, you didn't want to let me.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I didn't know you wanted that.

[Unknown Speaker]

I didn't know.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I didn't know you wanted.

[Unknown Speaker]

Oh, you can't read my mind. I threw you hints. I gave you a sign. A few. I gave you a sign a few weeks ago. A sign.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker]

What?

Yeah, yeah, in the commercial. I mentioned it when it came on tv.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I missed the sign that God gave me, too. You should have told us. They should say, I missed the sign that God gave me. I should have left your ass alone about six months ago. I missed that sign. But. And that's. And that's the thing. I just think, you know, sometimes we take for granted and you've been in a relationship. Just tell me. Yeah, I'm very. I'm one of these guys. Ocho, just tell me. Yeah, if you want to do something, tell me. I don't have time. I got too much ish on my plate to try to. Try to figure out what you want. You can just open your mouth and say, if you want to go here, say that. You want to eat that, say that. If you want this, say that. But they got me. You know? You know what to talk about. You know what to talk about on them shows. Oh, what.

[Unknown Speaker]

What they got to do with this?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What they got to do with you telling me what you would like to do. And so I think the thing is, for the Vikings, they have an expectation now. They see their offense, they realize that, hey, Jeddah is going to be Jetta. Hawkinson's been a Pro bowl player. Addison. Hey, the more opportunities we give him, the better he can be. Yeah, offensive line, maybe they add a piece to the offensive line, but other than that. Yeah, I think you owe it. I mean, you draft the kid when you drafted it, and now you keep kicking the can down the road and he's like, hold on, what I got to do? You took me, you told me I was the guy and now I get hurt. Okay, I get that. I understand that I got hurt. There's nothing I can do about that, Ocho. But then I come back and y'all got another guy. You tell me I gotta wait another year.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That would bother. That would bother anybody, especially a quarterback that got drafted, where he got drafted, expected to start, but due to injury, he had a small setback. And now you've done all the work you need to do during the season last year to get yourself back, not only in playing shape physically and mentally, but now you talk about bringing somebody else in another veteran presence and telling me I gotta take a backseat again. Wait a minute, wait a minute. What are we talking about here? So I'm happy for him. I'm glad that the organization decided to hurry up and nix the rumors that were out there about Aaron Rodgers coming in and let JJ McCarthy give him that sense of security mentally so he can go forward and know he's Quarterback 1 and doesn't have to look over his shoulder.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I agree.

[Unknown Speaker]

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

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[Unknown Speaker]

Yep.

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[Unknown Speaker]

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Well, this is what Cam. Cam Hayward, the. The. The great defensive tackle for the Pittsburgh Steelers, was asked if he'll be doing any recruiting to help bring Rogers to Pittsburgh. I ain't doing none of that darkness retreat. I don't need any of that crap. If you want to be a Pittsburgh Steeler or you don't, that's simple. That's the pitch. If you want me to recruit, that's recruiting pitch. Pittsburgh Steelers. If you want to be a part of it, so be it. If you don't, no skin off my back.

[Unknown Speaker]

Hey, there are certain teams, you look at the logo on the helmet, they don't need no help. They don't need no recruiting pitch. The product sells itself. Again, I always use that. I use. I always use that example of blue magic in the movie American Gangster with Denzel Washington. The product sells itself. The Steelers historic franchise. Them stars on the side of the helmet, it sells itself. The other franchise things are bigger. In Texas. The product sells itself. You don't need to do anything for it. You don't have to recruit nobody. You have to. You don't have to sell nobody nothing because it sells itself.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That wouldn't be a recruitment ocho. That would be begging. And that's what he wants.

[Unknown Speaker]

Thank you. I like.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Because what the. What did the jets do? The jets got on a private plane, right, and flew to him.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yes, sir.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, I don't know if you saw this, but I had young Miami on the podcast.

[Unknown Speaker]

Hey, hey. Well, I saw you shooting, boy. Hey, listen, let me tell you something, boy. You. Hey, you were shooting 70 from the field that night.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Ain't no 70% don't do that.

[Unknown Speaker]

I see you blushing, baby.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I was shooting.

[Unknown Speaker]

Hey, no, yeah, you shooting.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm just having. I'm just having great conversation.

[Unknown Speaker]

You know, when you. You know when you conversate, that's called shooting. Now, depending on what you say. It ain't what you say. It's how you say it. It's all about your delivery, baby. You was on point. You was on point.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But let them tell it. I was shooting that Cash dog. I was shooting that Amber Rose. I was shooting that young man. No, no, no, no. I was shooting that Kiki. I was like, well, damn. I was shooting at Megan guy.

[Unknown Speaker]

I'm like, what day? Not to the age.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Can I have a conversation?

[Unknown Speaker]

Well, Unc, this was a little different. Now, you didn't shoot at Cash doll. You didn't shoot at nobody else. Now, this is the conversation and the energy and the aura and the chemistry in which you can't see. You can't see it because you actually in the room. See, I'm not in the room with you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Huh?

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah. I can see the heat coming off the couch.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You hear me?

[Unknown Speaker]

I can see the connection and the chemistry now. I'm talking about the type of chemistry when you play Twister, that kind of chemistry where they say red and you got to cross over. You hear me? Yeah, I've seen it. Now, you can't see it. So it's. It's. It's my. Dude, just.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I've been in the room.

[Unknown Speaker]

Listen, I know you're in the room. That's why you can't see that. So I'm trying to tell you what I saw, huh? Your wi fi was on point. I'm talking about every. Every bar was there. It was there. It was a connection. There was chemistry. You can't see it. So I. You do with that what you will and what you make.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I ain't doing nothing with it. I'm not doing anything. We're happy. I'm 1000. Okay? For me, right? I couldn't in good conscience. Right. It would be almost like I'm a therapist and some lady comes and talk about her problems, and then I end up sleeping with her or if I'm a. I'm a lawyer and I have a client and I know she's. She's. She's vulnerable.

[Unknown Speaker]

Right. Right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Nah. Rob Brown. Just having a conversation. I mean, I love the fact. Let me see.

[Unknown Speaker]

Let me see what you. You know, it's the problem. It's the problem with this is what happens when it comes to us. When it comes to us, our people. We overthink things. We overthink things and we try to analyze them and we put things in our head with a scenario like you just did. Now, you just said a scenario. You gave a narrative that fit the way you thought. This individual is based on the situation that you created. Now, see, God always has a plan for us, and he puts people in our life in certain situations. And you're missing your blessing. That could be. Now, young Miami chose to come do Club Shay Shay and sat down with you. Yes. Now, that could have been a sign.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm grateful every guest.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah. Now listen, that could have been a sign from God. You never know. Now, what I saw when I watched the interview, I said, boy, this is more than just a talk. This is more than just a conversation. Now, I can see the energy. I can see the aura. I can. I can see the. The. The. The. The chemistry on camera. Now, you can't see it. And I'm telling you again, now listen to me when I talk to you because I wouldn't tell you and I wouldn't steal you wrong, because this wheel. The wheel over here. Jesus. Got this one. Okay? I'm telling you. I'm not telling you. I'm not telling you to make no moves. I'm just telling you I can see it. And I'm not Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Ocho.

[Unknown Speaker]

I know, I know.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I know.

[Unknown Speaker]

We got people watching. You really don't want to say nothing now because.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, no, no, no, no, no. It's not that. There's not people watching. It's just like. You heard what she said, man. Guys show. Ocho guys showing up with Kroc Birkins.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah. On the first day. Hold on, hold on.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Now.

[Unknown Speaker]

Now, you just talked about. I want somebody. You talked about Wade just the other night. Now, you talked about Birkins and G Wagons. Now this is right up your alley about Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Ocho, that's a buildup. She said Birkins now is a starter pack. Right? I'm thinking lb. I'm thinking Gucci. Ysl. I'm thinking Dior. She say Birkins. Kroc. Birkins. That's a starter pack. Guys buying jeep, man. Come on, man. Y'all know, man, first of all, you.

[Unknown Speaker]

Say you want him young, huh? Didn't I tell you? Didn't I tell you got to evolve? This is what you got to deal with when you want him young, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right?

[Unknown Speaker]

Not only that, there's certain other areas. Hunt, you're gonna have to. You're gonna have to listen. You're gonna have to update your resume.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Well, I'm gonna have to go. I'm gonna have to. Let me tell you what I'm gonna have to do. I'm gonna have to start going to church and get me somebody with a hat sitting in there, sitting in the deacones corner. You got me bad. I ain't got the bread. Like, I can't. Hey.

[Unknown Speaker]

I tell you. I tell you what. I tell you what. I tell you what. Now, if you do me a solid and you do me a favor, Young Miami, you know that's my sister. Now, you know, she from Miami. She. I'm just making sure, you know, that's why I'm vouching for. That's why I'm vouching for sister where I am. No, look, I know, I know, I know. I know you're trying to keep it professional.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, but I like the fact. I like the fact that they come in and they open up and we have a conversation, and we just be talking. I mean, look, I mean, I had a great conversation because like I said, I had no. I didn't ever think I would even meet any of these people. So for me, I'm like, man, I can't believe you sitting across from me. That's how I look at them. I don't like. Okay, let me. Let me. Let me. Let me. Let me try to throw a question here and try to get slick with it.

[Unknown Speaker]

You got. See, you got to do that. You got to say the things you're saying right now. I'm saying the things I'm saying that you can't say, that you might be thinking. See, that's what me being your other half is supposed to do. I'm supposed to be able to see things that you can't see and to relate what I see that you should do, but you don't want to do it because you're keeping a certain level of professionalism, not even knowing that's in.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Your face at all times.

[Unknown Speaker]

Now, let me tell you what I'm gonna do. Now. You talk about. You understand the prerequisites when it comes to dealing with her. Now, if you want to lead up with one of them Kroc Birkins, I've seen your 5200 to speed up the process.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, send me that car. That's what you owe me. Me not. Cause that's gonna be a down payment on the damn bag. Send me that because that's what the hell you owe me, Chad. Y'all hear this man, this bag talking about, oh, if you go get a croc working, I see you 5200 on it. How you gonna send me money? How you gonna talk about you gonna send me something on it when you owe me that?

[Unknown Speaker]

Hey, hey, hold on. Let me give you a prime example before we move on to the next topic. Before we move on to the next topic, understand the professionalism in which you carry yourself, the structure and discipline and everything that you do. That's what I love about you. That's why we work so well. Because I'm the complete opposite.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker]

So, yeah, I'm gonna give you a small example.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay.

[Unknown Speaker]

There was a movie that came out not too long ago when, ah, what's the lady's name? Jennifer Anson. Jennifer Anderson was dating Brad Pitt. They were a couple. They were together and all of a sudden, Brad Pitt.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Mr. Mrs. Smith.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah. Brad Pitt went off to do a movie with Angelina Jolie.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

With Angelina Jolie. Mr. Mrs. Smith. Yes.

[Unknown Speaker]

Okay. Okay. You see where I'm going with this? So listen, it don't matter what you got going on in life, sometimes God puts you in situations. In this case happened to be Club Shay Shay with a sit down with brother Shannon Sharpe and Caresha in a situation, to me, it was to me from the outside looking in. Regardless of the professionalism that you're trying to instill and carry because you have to. I saw a situation like that. Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie, the chemistry, it was just undeniable. And that's what I could see from afar where I was at. Now you do with that again. Now you do with that what you will and what you may. I'm just speaking my piece. And if I didn't tell you, as your other half, I wouldn't be your friend. But that's okay. We can go on to the next topic.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Speaking of Pittsburgh, Nyjah Harris says there is a lack of leadership with the Steelers. We just didn't know anything on offense, really. We didn't have any identity. We had a young guy coming in, coming in at qb. I really didn't have nobody to almost learn from on the offensive side. You like that?

[Unknown Speaker]

He's saying that Ocho, I mean, at the running back position and saying that you don't have anybody to learn, you know, at that specific position. I, I, I don't really like that. I, I, I personally don't. Because there's so many resources once you're in that atmosphere that you can learn from, where it doesn't have to actually be a person right there, outside of your head coach teaching you, because there's so much you can learn on your own. They, they have film, they have vaults, they have man goo, gods of footage and stuff. You can, you can learn, right? You know? Yeah. And to say something like, and to say something like that with the tutelage that you're getting at, the organization you're at, how could you even say something like that? Look at all the backs that have come through there.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, but they weren't there. The veteran leadership wasn't there when he got there. That's the thing that I'm very appreciative of. I had a guy, even though he was a year older than me, Steve Atwater and how to be professional. I had Dennis Smith, who had been there since 1981, who said, this is how you do things. This is how you be professional, you be punctual, you be on time, you practice hard. I saw Jon, I saw all those guys, the veteran guys, and how they do things. Okay, me, now, Ocho, I got the younger guys coming in. That's my job for Burns Foots, Rod Smith, the other guys, TD Chalkeye House. Now I go to Baltimore now. The younger guys, Some of the younger guys, the Rays and think Todd Heath, that's what you do. I think that's what he's talking about. I think, I don't want to put words in his mouth, guys, but I think that's what he's talking about, like how to be professional. How to make sure I practice doing everything that I possibly can to make sure that I'm maximizing my time here. And I'm very grateful that I got to Denver. I had guys, look, there are guys that wanted to party. I know that's not why I was there. Maybe Ocho, had I been a first or second round pick, maybe I would have partake. Probably not, because that's never been my impact. But knowing that I'm on thin ice and I see Atwater and I see Dennis Smith and I see those other guys, John, and I see the way they do a thing, I say, you know what? Yeah, I kind of, I need to be, I need to be in that group.

[Unknown Speaker]

Listen, I understand it, and I truly don't understand where he's coming from, in a sense, because obviously you understand what it took you to get here, right? This NFL. Najee, Najee, you've been dreaming about this since she was a little shorty. Since you're a little kid. This was a dream of mine. You have finally reached that pinnacle of reaching what you've always dreamed of. Then you. Not only that, you're part of historic franchise, the Pittsburgh Steelers. I'm not getting somewhere and worried about veteran leadership. When I understand the work it took me to get here, I'm already aligned with the end goal. All my. All my goals reset themselves once I make it. I'm not worried about no veteran leadership. I know what I need to do based on the goals that I set for myself personally. It don't matter who's in the room. It don't matter who was there before me. This shit I need to get done, and I got to focus. And everything I do has to align with my end goal. Regardless of whether I have a veteran presence or not at my pacific position, I want to be one of the best to play this game ever. You talk about no veteran leadership. Look at the players that came before you that played the exact position. The Jerome Bettis, the Willie Parkers. I mean, I'm sure you're going to the James Collins.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, but I need them there, though. Ocho. Yeah, I need to see. You talk about a pro. A pro. A pro is the occupation in which you do it right? That's a professional. A pro is how you go about that. You see it out. You see the difference between college and pro. What do they do? They get your ass up. They make sure you go to study hall. They make sure you do X, Y, and Z. They make sure you in the weight room. Who does that when you go to the NFL, You. And it helps when you see somebody that's a pro, because once you get there, we're all professionals. But to be a pro, it's something to be said for me. That's just me now. Hey, to each his own. But there's something to be said for me to have veteran. I remember Mark Jackson would take me up on his wing and say, hey, hey, you know, I see you ran that route, but I'm not so sure how to run it like that because blah, blah, blah, xyz. I said, okay, I appreciate that, man. He pulled me to the side. Hey, hey. Threaten that guy a little bit more. Hey, you got your head around A little too far. So it's little stuff like that, Ocho. I mean, stuff that you can't see because you used to get. Hey, Ocho, we used to use God given ability. Getting open. It take more than that in the NFL. Cause all them jokers got God given. Hey, me, God touched all them.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah. I got you. I understand it. And I wish I could totally not just get better context and get a little bit more in depth on what he means by it. And maybe I'm thinking a little different because of my approach. I wouldn't worry about no better leadership. I understood. Okay. I finally got here. I know what my goals are. I want to make sure everything I do are going to align with the end goal. To make sure I become, at some point, one of the best ever played. Not just for the Bengals, but to play in the history of this game in general. I'm going to leave my imprint, whether people like me or not. Then I think about also hell for the people in the chat. No better leadership. Where did I stay the first two years in the NFL? Where I lived at.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker]

And I'm locked in. I don't care who's there. I know what I got to do. I know what it takes to make sure I'm able to be consistent. This has a rookie.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker]

You know what? I might not have better impressions, but I'm gonna do the things I think I need to do to make sure I give them the best of me. Giving you the best of me.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You know, a part of me. I think. I think NIG doesn't feel like the Steelers really appreciated him.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Because a guy that's just barely rushing for a thousand yards is not gonna get the appreciation like a Saquon. Right. Like Derrick Henry. Like these guys rushing for 14, 1500 yards. He's never had less than a thousand yards rushing on Cho.

[Unknown Speaker]

Uhhuh.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But he's not spectacular. You don't look at like, oh, my God. You don't think that every. When he gets the ball. See, at least like Saquon gets the ball. You think, man, he might hit his head on the goal post.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah. Or.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Or Derrick Henry gonna end the game with 150, maybe 200 yards. That's not what you get from him. I thought he's a good back. I don't think he. I don't think he changes lives.

[Unknown Speaker]

No.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He's not a guy that's going to change your life. For me now, in college, he was sensational.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah. I like he a bell cow three at three down back. I like him.

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[Unknown Speaker]

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[Unknown Speaker]

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[Javon]

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[Unknown Speaker]

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

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[Unknown Speaker]

Been a wide receiver one.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But you see it put out there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That you're the Highest paid wide receiver 2.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

How does that one 8. You're saying what's. Without fixing it one 8.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, sir.

[Unknown Speaker]

You know, bro, I don't even look at it like that. You know what I mean? I kind of wish they wouldn't have put it out there like this so. Because now it's. That's why everybody say I'm the highest paid, too. Let's just say I'm at a place where, you know, they value me and, you know, they respect me and I just, I'm a good player here. So let's just say that that's not the highest receiver two or anything like that. You know what I mean? So let's just say he's another great receiver, Bengals receiver that, you know, that puts in the work and, and got his head down and just grinds. So, I mean. Oh, Joe, I've been saying it for a very long time. Huh? I've been saying it for a very. Every very long time. Every time I talk about the Bengals duo, I say it all the time. And I've been saying it for a very long time. You and I even went back and forth about it, you know, continuously on here. I said he's a wide receiver one that just happens to be on the team with another number one. There are a few instances, a few other teams that also benefit. Benefit from this situation. I'm not sure what the reporter is doing. And the reporter who understands the game of football and has been able to watch T and Chase together should know that and know better that he's a one. If he was to leave there, he would have been paid as a number one because that's exactly what he is. It just so happens he have Jamar Chase on the other side of him. But anyway.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Well, we look at. We look at. Let me ask you a question.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

When Passor Tane lined up, who Pastor Tain going to. He going to chase or he going to T. Higgins.

[Unknown Speaker]

If he's following, he's going to chase.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay. Sauce, Gardner, Stingling.

[Unknown Speaker]

And he's following and going. He's going to chase.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So why would they.

[Unknown Speaker]

I understand what you're saying. Right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Because that's. That. That's the thing now, Ocho, right? Hell, it didn't used to be no QB1, right. It was the starter. Quarterback, right? It was no qb. It was no wide receiver. Wide receiver one, right? It was. It was wide receiver. It was Michael Irving, Sterling Chart, right? Jared Wright, Randy, blah, blah, blah, Keo. Now, they got. They got all these things. Wide receiver.

[Unknown Speaker]

Hold on now. Hold on. Ain't no all. Now, they're few teams like that. The Eagles, that's wide receiver 1A and 1B. The Bengals, that's wide receiver 1A and 1b. What they did over there with Kuba cup and P. Nakua, that was wide receiver 1A and 1B. Now, what they will do is they will take some of your production, your opportunities away from you and make it look like it's something wrong with you and make it look like wide receiver, too, when there's really nothing wrong with you, if you understand the business and how they work your ass up out of there.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But let me. This is why I look at it. O.

[Unknown Speaker]

Talk to me.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Why didn't they give. If. If. If Jalen Waddle was the equivalent of Tyreek, why didn't they give him the same type of money that he gave Tyreek if Devontae Smith was the same. Was the equivalent receiver? So why did they give T. Higgins 40 million?

[Unknown Speaker]

But you know, you know, you can't work. You can't work like that. Now, come on. Don't. Don't.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He. Wide receiver one. Wide receiver one. Get. Wide receiver one. Money.

[Unknown Speaker]

Right? Yeah. And listen, we can. We. We can. We can argue. We can. We can argue. We can argue to it. But listen, listen. Normally. Normally when we talk about wide receiver one and we talk about wide receiver two, there is an enormous drop off in skill and talent. Enormous. Now, you got two receivers that get it done. Totally Two, totally different ways.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You got. Are you saying there's no drop? Hold on. I want to make sure.

[Unknown Speaker]

I said enormous. Extravagant. Extravagant drop off from your one and your two. Two. There's a reason the person is a one, and there's a reason the other person is a two. Now you got two. Let me finish. You got two receivers that are really, really good at what they do. High points, short, intermediate, long balls. Now, both of them do all of them really well. That think that one of the few things that Chase might have on run after the catch. Yeah. Is that goddamn run after the catch. My God. That's also because Chase his background in playing running back when he was younger, that's why he looked like that every time he get the ball. He looked like a damn running back. He bouncing off people playing ping pong. I mean, listen, you touch me, I'm going down. You touch me, I'm going down. I'm making a business decision. So I get what you're saying.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm glad he got paid. I think he earned a right. I mean, the way he played, he had been exemplary the whole while there. They made him play under the tag. He played under the tag. He caught Nate, but he still had double digit touchdown. He was going to be well over a thousand yards. And so they compensated him. I love when teams reward their players for work put in. Now, Ocho, I've already paid you for what you've done. Right? Right now for me to give you this money. They're not paying. They're not paying Chase for the triple crown because they paid him that they're paying him for Moving forward. We believe you're going to put up numbers equivalent to that, if not better. I can't pay. I can't. How do I. I paid you. It wasn't like he didn't get a salary, Ocho, and now we got to make up for what we didn't give him. He got paid.

[Unknown Speaker]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

With that being said, I believe Chase, they believe Chase is going to put up numbers equivalent to, if not better than what he put up last year. So I'm going to pay you accordingly.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And.

[Unknown Speaker]

That was a good one.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And he's earned it.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Gee, he's earned it. I'm glad he didn't have to go. I'm glad he didn't have to go to get some because so many times we see guys put. Oh. Put the work in. Put the work in. And then they got to go somewhere else to get. Get rewarded, get to get the appreciation that I should have got from the club that drafted me. Yeah, you thought enough of drafting me. You know, that's why I tell people a lot of times what I love about Dan Reed. He was smart enough to draft me, but somehow forgot to cut me the Bengals. Oh, you. You really love T. You did your homework, you took him in the second round. But now he give you all those great years and you want to let him. You gonna let him move on, right? And you're gonna let his because he ain't in his prime yet. So now the next four years is really going to be, you know, his prime. And you're gonna Let somebody else reap that benefit. Cause you cheated.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So I was glad they finally.

[Unknown Speaker]

And you know, the funny thing I think a lot of people haven't talked about, they really don't know, is the person that's pulling the strings behind closed doors, the person with the power, the person who runs the show and is making the calls is really nice.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, for sure.

[Unknown Speaker]

You know, a lot of people ain't talking about that. We talk about T going here. No matter what I said, no matter what people on espn, no matter what people have said on X or Twitter for that matter, the person behind the clause, the closed doors, who went up, the management and probably said, listen, I don't know what you need to do, what you need to do with the numbers on my contract or what you need to restructure, but UNO and five, I need that back come hella high water. If you understand how he conducts his business and the way he goes about it. That man, Young bull ain't playing. Not by them two.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You know what I love, Ocho? The fact that he was outspoken about it. A lot of quarterbacks, like, yeah, we'd love to have him back, but that's not my call, right? Oh, it's definitely like, he's like, they've earned. They've earned the right. And he said the same thing about Trey Hendrickson. It seems like they're a little bit more open to trading Trey than potentially bringing him back. But that's something we'll discuss at a later date in time.

[Unknown Speaker]

Right?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But he came on first take and he was very, hey, I want them to pay Chase. Chase has earned that. I want them to pay T. He's a valuable piece to what we do, and I want him back. None of that. Hey, yeah, we'd love to have him back, but, you know, I don't make that decision. I'm just a quarterback. No, no. And so I love. I love that. That part about him. Ocho. A key factor in the Jamar Chase T. Higgins negotiation with Joe Burrow's influence. Beyond the public comment, Burrow applied private pressure, making it clear deals must get done for both. If Cincy fail, it could have gotten very, very interesting.

[Unknown Speaker]

Listen, listen, I'm glad that we just brought that up and I just said it ahead of time. Obviously, I wouldn't have said it when all this stuff was going on, but if you understand. I've watched Joe now for a few years. I've seen him up in person. I've heard the stories about the way he conducts himself and goes on about his business and his approach to the game and how serious he takes it. In order to. In order to continue playing at an elite level, you have to have elite talent around you. And you understand that, especially offensively, in order to keep that going and continue to. To give us a chance offensively to get where we want to go. We already know what the end goal is every time you compete and you play on a Sunday. In order to get there, especially San Francisco, I need my. I need my two. I need my Uno, I need my five. Now, I don't know what we need to do. I don't know what we need to do upstairs, but we need to make it happen.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, that's it. I think sometimes that quarterbacks be like, I got my money. To hell with the rest of this stuff. I ain't got nothing to do with me. And they take. That's a cop out on Joe. Yeah, it's a cop out to say, well, I don't get to make that decision.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, I've heard that before.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And you hear that a lot. I mean, you know Joe making 55 million like y'all fend for yourself. But he knows a part of him getting that 55 million was. Was. Was 1 in 5.

[Unknown Speaker]

There it is. You said it right there. Now, you come in there playing around and bring somebody else in, they can't do it. One in five dudes, he'd understand.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You understand you're gonna be upset. I mean, he's been doing that. I mean, he's pretty much been throwing a chase for what, five years? Had him in college a year. Missed him.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And then picked him right back up.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So with that being said, I'm glad these guys got it done. Congratulations, guys. Well deserved. The Lions have proposed significant change to the NFL playoff seeding that will largely use regular season record as the guiding principle rather than division championships. Under the proposal, the division winner with the conference best record will still receive the number one overall seed. But after that, teams would be stacked by their records, regardless whether they won the division or received wild card births. That approach could significantly impact the NFC north, which fielded three playoff teams last season. The Lions 15 and 2, Vikings 14, 3, Green Bay 11 and 6. The Lions received the number one seed, but the Vikings were seeded number five and the packers number seven. Based purely on the record, the Vikings would have been the number three seed. The packers would have been the number five seed. Ocho, do you understand this is an anomaly season? It doesn't happen like this. We've never seen a team Two teams in the same division have this kind of record.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah. And what are the chances of it happening again? Huh? What do you think?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It's not. It's not likely, right? It's not like maybe another decade, 20 years, 30 years.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah. Listen, one. One thing about it, it was great to see. It was entertaining. It was a very entertaining for that nfc. But a chance of it actually happening again, where you need to have this format even be put in place, it's not likely unless you're playing a video game.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I hate the fact that we take an anomaly and then try to make wholesale changes. Because you're trying to make a wholesale change. So what's the importance of winning your division if there's no value? I can't help it that you in that division.

[Unknown Speaker]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So if I win my division now, you're going to punish me because I won my division with 10 wins and you happen to have 13 wins in another division that somebody won 15 games.

[Unknown Speaker]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So why even have divisions? Let's just say, okay, y'all the nfc, y'all the afc, just play. And then whoever have the best record, we'll stack it. You don't even need a division because now you're telling me division's not important. So we gonna base it on record. The best overall record, you get to buy the next best record. You the two seed, next best record. We don't need division. Stop trying. Stop trying to take isolated incident and make wholesale changes. Right, bro, now you making it seem like, well, if we weren't the five seed, we would. Bro, you bad. You played bad. It's okay. That's just me, Ocho. Former Bucks offensive coordinator Byron Leftwich is joining Colorado's coaching staff. Coach Pride introduced Leftwick to the team Wednesday. The retired quarterback brings yet more pro experience to the Boulder, Colorado. The Buffs hired Hall of Fame running back Marshall Faulkner in February to coach the running back. Facts hall of Fame defensive tackle is a senior quality control analyst for the defensive side of the football as well. He worked with the D line. I don't know what happened. I don't. I really don't know what happened in Tampa because he went from a guy that had an opportunity to get a head coaching job to being out of the league. Yeah, well, out of the league.

[Unknown Speaker]

Listen, I'm not gonna go there. Byron Leftwich was a good quarterback during this time. What he was able to do in Tampa with Brady was phenomenal. Obviously, being able to coach one of the greatest of all time, if not the greatest.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And he called Plays. I thought they one of the guys that called plays, don't y'all?

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, he was.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But if you notice every other quarter of every other. Every other offensive coordinator that has ever coached Tom Brady, what has he got in the NFL, Ocho? A head coaching job. Charlie Weiss, Bill O'Brien, Josh McDaniel. Three play callers got jobs. Yeah, one guy, Bill O'Brien never won a Super bowl with him. He lost. He was. He was. He lost. This guy won a Super bowl calling plays.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, but you know how they would look at it? They would look at it like regardless of who you. Who was calling play for you, you was out, you call him play for Tom Brady.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So regardless, was he not. Was he not the quarterback for Charlie Rice? Was he not the quarterback for Bill O'Brien? Was he not the quarterback for Josh McDaniel? And it got so bad. Josh McDaniel got three. Got another job. Hold on. He got the job. Hold on. Oh, he got the job at Denver. We know what he did. We don't need to bring that up.

[Unknown Speaker]

Up.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Got the job at Indy and said, you know what? Via facts and said, nah, I ain't gonna take the job. I'm gonna stay here. And then when got another job.

[Unknown Speaker]

Right. But there's a difference. You understand what. You know what? I'm not me. I'm not making a show about this. I mean, the writing is on the wall. The proof is in the pudding. You can see it for yourself. This ain't the first time this is happening. It's happening continuously over and over and over. I don't need to say it. It open your eyes. Okay, so I'm happy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm happy for him, though.

[Unknown Speaker]

I'm happy for him. I'm happy for. For him getting the position there. Marshall Falk is there, obviously. Warren SAP is there. The environment that they're. That prime is constructing for the players and the young men that are there are obviously preparing them to be able to play at the level, at the next level if they get a chance or opportunity to make it. And. And have them. Obviously, the tutelage from players that played at the highest level, some were immensely great, like prime and Warren Sapp, and you have some that had good careers and you're bribery with left widgets. And he can help the quarterbacks, being that not only did he play the position, but he also coached some at the best position and also won a ring, if I'm not mistaken.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Who, Byron?

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, but they lost that year with the Bucks.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, he. Well, he coached what you call him? He. Coach Brady. Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker]

That's.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They beat. They beat new. They beat the Chiefs.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, he got a ring. Okay. Yeah, I'm right. I'm right. Yeah, I stand corrected. Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, no, no, look. Guys want to get. They want to get pro ready. Quarterback Coach Pat Shermer is the OC Marshall running back.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hall of Fame SAP. Hall of Fame D line. He can get to the quarterback. Hey, he's put together a great staff. Guys that if you have the ability now, just because you go to Colorado, if you ain't got the ability to play in the NFL, I don't give a damn. I don't give a damn who coaching.

[Unknown Speaker]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

If you can do it or you can. Now, they might help you with some technique and some little stuff, but you got to have the ability to go get it done.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yes, sir. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Whose house? Prime's house. Prime shows off his backyard. Ocho, check this out.

[Unknown Speaker]

Let me see it. Let me see. Let me see it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What?

[Unknown Speaker]

Oh, that's the one in Texas, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'd be doing too much if it was. If it wasn't late as it was. I would call him. I would call him tomorrow. Yeah, you do it too much.

[Unknown Speaker]

That's nice. Oh, that's nice.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And I'm gonna tell him I'm gonna go fishing in one of the parties before you realize I'm gonna have the face fried up on the thing on the bank. Cause he make you throw the fish back on Joe. I'mma fry him up.

[Unknown Speaker]

He do. He make you put him back.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Make you put it back, he'll let you keep them.

[Unknown Speaker]

That's a good one. That's funny. At some point, the fish got to understand what's going on and stop biting on the goddamn line.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Unfortunately, not gonna be able to do that. Especially if you catch them while they bedding. Oh, yeah, because hey, they bedding. Hey, that's free food. Or they try to. Sometimes they try to take the. And get that out of their bed.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah.

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Jalen Mill Rose Officially Mill Row Officially runs unofficially 437 in the 40 yard dash of Alabama Pro Day. OJ check out this video.

[Unknown Speaker]

Hey, I like pick him up.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Putting them down, don't y'all?

[Unknown Speaker]

Hey, you putting Them up. Put him down, huh? One foot in front of the other.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I don't care nothing about that. And for a quarterback, I don't care nothing. I saw, I saw the greatest quarterback currently run. Five, five, two, right?

[Unknown Speaker]

Five, huh? Yeah. Five, two, five. It don't mean nothing. But also being able to run 437. It means something especially in today's game with all, with all the dual threat quarterbacks that we do have that are elite. Allah Josh Allen. Allah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Lamar Jackson play the fastest quarterback that ever won a Super bowl and the fastest quarterback in the hall of Fame. I'll wait. Go ahead.

[Unknown Speaker]

No, no, I mean you right about that. You right by that. But I'm, I'm just, I'm just telling you. I'm giving you a different perspective. I'm giving you a different perspective on how it's helped immensely being able to do two things and just not be one dimensional. It's okay to be able to have a quarterback that can use his legs.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Look at the growth leg.

[Unknown Speaker]

Look at the growth of Lamar Jackson. Look where he is now. Look how far he's come. It ain't even about running no more. I'm running only if I have to because I become. Now I'm a passer. I'm a passer of the ball, you know, so. So, brother Milroe, being able to run that fast is all. It's great. It's a good thing. But have you seen what he could do with his arm, man?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Not nearly consistent enough.

[Unknown Speaker]

I knew, I knew. Yeah, listen, at some point, at some point you will be. Now you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I just want you to tell me who the fastest guy to ever win the super bowl and the fastest guy in the hall of Fame. That's all I'm waiting for.

[Unknown Speaker]

There's a lot of fast ones in the hall of Fame. You fast. Who you in now?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, at quarterback.

[Unknown Speaker]

Quarterback. Let me think. Hold on. Johnny unites in the hall of Fame, ain't he?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He is.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah. Johnny ran four.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Four in the 20. That's my consistency. I mean, that's, that's great. Hey.

[Unknown Speaker]

Oh, shoot.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, that was at the end of the day. Oh, yeah. Hey, gotta throw it. All right, Ocho, it's time for our last segment of the evening.

[Unknown Speaker]

We getting off already?

[Shannon Sharpe]

It.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Sheldon Pope. Oh, no time for Q and A. Give us, come on, give us our graphics.

[Unknown Speaker]

We just, we just got home. I done took a five hour nap. I'm in. I got energy. And you and you leaving.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Sheldon Pope said you enjoy playing Reisha Roulette. I did.

[Unknown Speaker]

I did. See, see, see, see, see?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I did. It's a good game. It's a good game. I can see how that game can get your ass in trouble.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Especially you a. A group of y'all around, you know, hey, oh, y'all. You'll. You go. You and your buddies and y'all and women in some bay in Vegas or y'all in Cancun or Jamaica.

[Unknown Speaker]

Uh huh.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Some freaky ish about to happen. Dark born Said got a question for Ocho. In his opinion, who was better being a receiver duo? Jamar and T or him and tj?

[Unknown Speaker]

Oh, that's a good one. That's a good one.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And.

[Unknown Speaker]

And obviously we didn't throw the ball.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

We.

[Unknown Speaker]

We are. Yeah, it's a good one. We didn't throw the ball.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I did throw the ball.

[Unknown Speaker]

Not like that. Man, stop playing now. You know we ain't throw the ball like that. Now you see what the boys doing today? They run 100 plays and 98 of them throwing, you know, but hey, listen, are you. I love myself and tj Man, I. I love us to death. And as much as I. Yeah, as much as I love Jamar and T and praise them like, I'm like, I'm a preacher, I will always take me and TJ over there no matter what. And that's what. All due respect to what them boys doing and are going to continue to do with that franchise, but it'd always be me and tj Boy, ain't ain't nothing like that. Ain't nothing like it. And people wouldn't understand it, especially the younger generation, unless you were there. There. You had to be there and would have had to see it live and in person to understand.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Dr. Frank L. Bellamy said, speak of church. The way you were citing job on first take was awesome. You sure you don't want to be a preacher? The pulpit would be rocking, Ocho. Ocho could be your deacon.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah. Yeah. Hey, put me in the pulpit now.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. I up. I. When I was a. A little boy, the pastor of the church told my grandmother say, Mary, that boy has a way with words. He said, a lot of people can talk, Mary, he said, but very few people can speak. That boy can speak. And I. You know what I'm saying? Oh, y. I'm a kid. I probably was like, like 10, 11. But to like, like, there's nothing like hearing a great speaker to hear. To go back and listen to Dr. Dr. King, just hear him speak, to hear Churchill, to hear him speak to hear JFK and to hear him speak and Takashi Coats. To hear him speak. There's some, there's some people that have a vote voice and because there's. In order to be a. A great orator, you must have a cadence.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

There's a sequence that your voice can elevate and rise. I mean, rise and then fall. If you hear, if you hear Dr. King, just listen for the cadence.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

In which he speaks. That's everything, you know.

[Unknown Speaker]

You know who else you can hear it in recently?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Who that.

[Unknown Speaker]

In that cadence? Obama.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker]

If you live, if you listen to Obama, you can hear that cadence as well with him, when he goes high and goes low and he's able to. The ability to command the ear. He got it. It's a gift.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker]

It's a gift.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Malcolm X. Yeah. A no run. 75, no jive. I'm alive. Lakers are 5J213. Hey, Uncle Nocho. Who is one person, dead or alive, you want to sit down and have a conversation with, excluding family?

[Unknown Speaker]

Oh, Frank Sinatra. Frank Sinatra. I mean, if you know me and my love for the music, the arts and dance and theater and all the things that I like Sinatra for what he stood for, you know, in a time when you really shouldn't be standing for it, if you know what I mean, you know?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker]

And man, the opportunities that he gave people of color during his time, man, Sinatra I would love. And still to this day I have an appreciation for him, his music and everything he's done not only as an artist, but away from, you know, music as well. Some of the things he fought for and the opportunities he gave others, refusing to play in certain places unless you know who was also afforded the same opportunities in those rooms. Oh, man, Sinatra. Now there's so many other great ones. I'm just telling you about mine, you know, and then.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Oh my goodness. I mean, for me, probably Dr. King. Malcolm X. Yeah. I've always been drawn to people that could, that could speak great orators and. Prince.

[Unknown Speaker]

Prince, Prince.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, it's reezy. Who cares 1, 2 if Joe gonna get hurt? Cuz the Bengals had to get PE teachers and gym roll for the old Li and the cheat.

[Unknown Speaker]

Hey, hey, Winnie, who we got for our whole line again?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

PE teachers and gym bros. Do the Broncos have the most stacked roster in the AFC west now after free agency, who do you think the Denver is going to want at pick 20? Well, you got your quarterback. Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker]

They going. They going receiver.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You think so?

[Unknown Speaker]

Absolutely. Absolutely.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay.

[Unknown Speaker]

Absolutely. They gonna get them playmaker off that board, man. I can tell you. I can tell you that because I like Sutton. Yeah, I like Sutton too. I like Sutton. But they need, they need it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Maybe get one of them tight end. Yeah, got it. I mean, Omarion Hampton, running back, North Carolina is what Mark Draft say because they let Javonte Davis go. Williams. Javante Williams.

[Unknown Speaker]

Williams, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Another Carolina kid, Brody Burton. UN saying this to O. No licking, no sucking toes, no farting around, man. Me Blakers are five. J. Williams say Uncle Oo. My birthday was yesterday. I'm 45, but I don't look a day over 38. Jah, thank you. Happy birthday. Happy birthday.

[Unknown Speaker]

Happy birthday, boy. Happy birthday. But we in the same boat too. Shoot, I don't look at day, I don't look at day over 25. People tell me that all the time in person. Boy, you look so young. Boy, what's, what's your skincare routine? So I told him I ain't really got none. I just eat right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I don't know. What is it? Save for tomorrow. Fran Brown makes his players say 40% of. Okay. I was gonna say what, what is this? Oh, okay, okay. Oh, yes. I didn't see that. Say save for tomorrow. Guys, that concludes this an A. Oh, Joe, it's been a long day for your boy.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Cause I was in Savannah. We just got back, watched the game. I'm up on the plane again tomorrow morning. Car picking me up at 5:30. Where you going? I'm headed to Charleston.

[Unknown Speaker]

Okay, okay. What you doing? You got, you got a liquor signing?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I'll get back. I'll get back tomorrow night and I'll be better. Cause I ain't got anything to do Saturday. I mean Friday. Yeah, so your boy be ready to go. But I gotta get. Hey, I gotta get at least three hours of sleep.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, well, listen you. Now don't be surprised if I pop up on yet one of them signings, man. And, and a local.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I was in Miami. You ain't pop up on nothing.

[Unknown Speaker]

Well, I wasn't here. I wasn't here then. I'm just saying. I'm just saying, you know, on your little tour, if I pop up, you know, in a whole la portier outfit.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Like a costume, hey, I'm coming to Charleston. Hope they got some good break. Hey, somebody leave me something in the chat. Tell me in Charleston where they got a good breakfast. Because I want some good old southern style grits. I want some bacon. I want bacon. Crispy scrambled egg, you know. Hey, just like that. I mean, I mean I like pancakes, but I ain't gotta have them, right? Grits, eggs, sausage or bacon. Let your boy know where I need to go. McDonald's ain't got no damn grits. Got no damn grits at no McDonald's. That concludes this episode of Nightcap, brought to you by Boost Movie. Visit your nearest Boost mobile store or boost mobile.com to join their nationwide 5G network today. Please make sure you guys hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed. Wherever you get your podcast from, every podcast subscriber counts. And we thank you guys for staying up late with us. Five nights a week during the football season, four nights a week doing baseball season. I mean, NBA season in three nights. Even in the off season when there's nothing going on. Thank you guys because your support is greatly appreciated. Y'all know me. I'm your favorite. UNC tired tonight. Shannon Sharp, number 85. Route runner extraordinaire. Bingo. Ring of Fame honoree. The Pro Bowler All Pro. His name hangs up in the stadium. That's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure you go follow my media company page on all of his platforms. Shay Shay Media and my clothing company, eighty four. With eighty four being spelled out, everything has restocked. The link is pinned at the top of the chat. Supplies are limited and once they're gone, they're gone. So please get yours while supplies last. I'm up. He's Ocho. We'll see you tomorrow night. Thank you guys again for staying up late with us tonight.

[Unknown Speaker]

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[Unknown Speaker]

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