Nightcap Hour 1: Lakers look HOPELESS vs Spurs + Will OKC go BACK 2 BACK & BREAK Warriors RECORD? + Kevin Stefanski WANTS OUT of Cleveland + Eagles REMOVE “Positivity Rabbit”

Summary

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Club Shay Shay: Nightcap Hour 1

Episode Title: Lakers look HOPELESS vs Spurs + Will OKC go BACK 2 BACK & BREAK Warriors RECORD? + Kevin Stefanski WANTS OUT of Cleveland + Eagles REMOVE “Positivity Rabbit”
Date: December 11, 2025
Host: Shannon Sharpe
Guests/Co-Hosts: Chad Ochocinco Johnson, Joe “Iso Joe” Johnson

Overview

This episode of Nightcap on Club Shay Shay dives deep into several hot topics in the sports world, focusing primarily on the Lakers’ struggles against the Spurs, the dominance and promising future of the Oklahoma City Thunder, speculation around Cleveland Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski, and the curious removal of the Eagles’ locker room “Positivity Rabbit.” The conversation, led by Shannon Sharpe, is marked by camaraderie, playful banter, and candid analysis, especially between co-hosts Chad Ochocinco and Joe Johnson.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Lakers vs. Spurs: Defensive Woes and Surprising Spurs Depth

[04:52–21:33]

• Game Breakdown:

  • The Spurs defeated the Lakers 132–119, outshooting them spectacularly from three and dominating virtually every key stat.
  • Stefan Castle starred for Spurs with 30 points, 10 rebounds, and 6 assists.
  • The Spurs had “seven players in double figures” and big contributions from their bench, while the Lakers only got bench help from Marcus Smart.
  • Lakers stars LeBron, Luka, and Austin Reeves had solid but not spectacular performances; Reeves struggled heavily.

• Main Issues Identified:

  • The Lakers’ core problem is defense, not offense.
    • Shannon Sharpe: “The issue is not going to be scoring... The issue is going to be can they defend consistently because LeBron is about to be 41. Luke has never been a defender and Austin Reed’s got a taste of offense in his mouth.” (07:00)
  • Aging legs and defensive liabilities, especially against quick, young, backcourts: “Elite back courts, quick back courts... always give them problems.” (11:28 - Sharpe)

• Spurs’ Credit:

  • Despite missing stars like Wembanyama, the Spurs’ youth and depth shone through.
  • Chad: “You got to give props to Spurs... they got a lot of young cats who can put that ball in the hole, man.” (07:42)

• Lakers Lethargy Excuse:

  • Fresh off a tough east coast trip; Chad excuses their slow start: “That first game back, unconocho, it’s always a little tough, a little difficult... your legs are kind of, you know, a little dead.” (08:09)

• Concerns for Playoff Prospects:

  • Without another perimeter defender or wing who can shoot threes, Lakers may struggle when shots aren’t falling.
  • Vivid breakdown on why players like Vanderbilt struggle to get minutes: “He’s a good wing defender... but if you can’t shoot the three, it’s going to be hard for you to get.” (19:39)

• Notable Banter:

  • Chad & Shannon joke about not attending games unless the Lakers are playing:
    • “I’d rather go watch a worm fight.” – Shannon (13:31)

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2. OKC Thunder: Dynasty in the Making? Can They Break the Warriors’ Record?

[25:19–37:08]

• Thunder’s Current Excellence:

  • Thunder are now 24–1, tying the best 25-game start in NBA history, and are “suffocating” with defense and effort.
  • “They hit you in waves… they don’t drop off even when substituting,” says Chad (26:28).

• Chances to Break Warriors’ Record/Repeat?:

  • All three hosts agree OKC is a real contender to break the Warriors’ regular season record and go “back-to-back” as champs:
    • “I think they want to [break the record]” – Shannon (26:02)
    • “They look like a team on a mission. Oo, they not playing.” – Chad (26:15)

• Intangibles and Team Chemistry:

  • The panel is impressed with the genuine likability and collective ambition:
    • “They sincerely, genuinely like each other.” – Shannon (26:34)
    • Strong pecking order—Shai’s the leader, everyone else follows—no ego battles, just “everyone understands their role.”
    • “It’s hard to put Denzel, Samuel Jackson, Tom Hanks, and Tom Cruise in the same movie—how you do that?” – Shannon, drawing analogy to NBA teams with too many stars (32:24)

• Player Development Credit:

  • SGA (Shai Gilgeous-Alexander) credited Chris Paul for instilling professionalism:
    • “He was always on top of... getting better mentality in every way of life.” – Shannon (34:55)

• Why Teams Like OKC Succeed:

  • “Everybody got a job. Everybody got a role. The way y’all look at it, and I think the way they see it, Joe, nobody role is more important than the other.” – Shannon (36:18)

• Prediction:

  • “Yes, I do have them repeating.” – Chad (37:08)
  • “It’s gonna be tough for somebody to beat them in seven games.” – Shannon (37:08)

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3. Podcast Olympics Banter

[37:42–42:59]

• After recapping responses to their “podcast challenge” (from competing podcasts like Pivot and 85 South), the trio jokes about winning any possible contest—table tennis, pool, paintball, bowling, you name it.
• “Ain’t nobody that responded today gonna beat us in nothing. Nathaniel and I stand on that. I stamp that. I’m talking about 10 toes. And if I was prime, eight toes.” – Chad (38:03)

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4. Cleveland Browns & Kevin Stefanski Speculation

[46:38–56:55]

• ESPN Report (Albert Breer):

  • Kevin Stefanski (Browns head coach) likely wants out of Cleveland, largely out of frustration with upper management meddling in football decisions (especially at quarterback).

• Debate—How Much Control Does Stefanski Have?:

  • “How much say do we believe Kevin Stefanski has over the final 53, the draft, free agency?” – Shannon (49:23)
  • Joe’s take: As a two-time Coach of the Year, Stefanski should have authority, but it appears he’s “taking the fall for upper management.” (50:11)

• Quarterback Controversy:

  • Drama over whether Shadour Sanders, taken in the fifth, or Dylan Gabriel (third round) should start; speculation Stefanski’s hands are tied.
  • Shannon questions drafting two QBs close together if you aren’t sure either is the answer:
    • “You don’t draft the guy and say, well, he might not be it...” (52:04)

• Player Performance and Coaches’ Fate:

  • “Players get coaches fired.” – Joe (47:39)
  • General consensus: Stefanski is not the main problem, it’s upper management dysfunction and the lack of a clear quarterback solution.

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5. NFL QB Carousel & Playoff Races

[56:55–62:54]

• Discussion on various injured QBs around the NFL (Daniel Jones, etc.).
• The perpetual NFL search for a competent starter—teams willing to bring in veteran Philip Rivers, even at age 44.
• “It’s hard for me to believe that you couldn’t go, you couldn’t scour 31 other teams’ practice squads…” – Shannon (62:13)

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6. Eagles’ “Positivity Rabbit” Removed & Superstitions in Sports

[64:18–66:49]

• The Eagles installed a giant inflatable rabbit in their locker room for good luck; after a loss, it was promptly removed.
• Players and hosts laugh at the idea of blaming a rabbit for losing, reflecting on their own experiences with locker-room superstitions and attempts to “shake things up” during losing streaks.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Lakers Defense:
  • “That’s gonna be their issue. I was surprised by how well the Spurs played tonight.” – Shannon Sharpe (07:00)
• On OKC Thunder’s Team Culture:
  • “They sincerely, genuinely like each other… I love to see them… everybody’s standing around and they watch and they clapping for.” – Shannon Sharpe (27:04)
• On Team Roles:
  • “Everybody got a job. Everybody got a role. And the way y’all look at it, and I think the way they see it, Joe, nobody role is more important than the other.” – Shannon Sharpe (36:18)
• On Podcast Competition:
  • “Ain’t nobody that responded today gonna beat us in nothing. Nathaniel and I stand on that. I stamp that. I’m talking about 10 toes. And if I was prime, eight toes.” – Joe Johnson (38:03)
• On QB Drama in Cleveland:
  • “Players get coaches fired… You want your best player out there playing quarterback for you. That gives you your best chance to win.” – Joe Johnson (47:39)
• On Sports Superstition:
  • “They blame it on the rabbit… Look, a rabbit’s foot… they got a whole big ass rabbit in there.” – Shannon Sharpe (64:58)
• On NFL Injuries:
  • “You got Stroud, you got Lawrence. They had competent quarterback play in Indy... now it seems like he’s going to hell in the hand basket. They brought a granddad out of retirement…” – Shannon Sharpe (58:27)
• Comic Highlight – Uber Story:
  • Shannon gets booted from an Uber for being the “wrong Ms. Davis,” then jokes about his tech illiteracy and accidentally booking a hotel instead of ordering breakfast:
    • “I thought I ordered me an egg sandwich and some orange juice. Hell no.” (72:10)

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Timestamps for Noteworthy Segments

• Lakers vs. Spurs Analysis: 04:52 – 21:33
• OKC Thunder & Warriors Record: 25:19 – 37:08
• Podcast Olympics Banter: 37:42 – 42:59
• Kevin Stefanski & Browns Drama: 46:38 – 56:55
• NFL QB Carousel: 56:55 – 62:54
• Eagles' Positivity Rabbit: 64:18 – 66:49
• Tech Mishap (Shannon’s Uber & hotel story): 69:13 – 74:26

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Style & Tone

The tone is conversational, energetic, and loaded with playful ribbing—matching the chemistry and personalities of the hosts. Sports analysis is mixed with storytelling, analogies, and light-hearted life anecdotes.

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Takeaways

• The Lakers’ defensive struggles and roster construction are real issues for their postseason prospects.
• The OKC Thunder are not just winning—they’re building a model franchise, blending talent with team-first culture and discipline.
• Internal dysfunction continues to limit the Cleveland Browns, raising questions about how much say head coaches actually have.
• NFL playoff races are chaotic, and desperate teams will dig deep, signing even 44-year-old QBs.
• Superstitions are alive and well in sports locker rooms—but usually, it’s talent, not rabbits, that wins games.
• At its heart, Nightcap delivers candid sports analysis, a healthy dose of competitive banter, and big laughs.

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Hello ladies and gentlemen and thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp. And my partner and co host, the Liberty City legend, the Bingo Ring of Fame honoree, a former pro bowler and an all Pro, he's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. And joining us every Wednesday, the third member of the Big three. Y' all know him from Little Rock, Arkansas, University of Arkansas alum ISO Joe Johnson. Joe, what it do, bro?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Man, what's happening? What's happening boy?

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Chad Ochocinco]

I wasn't really surprised. You know, you got to give props to the Spurs, Unko, but you know the Lakers just coming off their road trip on the east coast, man, that's a three hour difference. It takes a little while for the body to get back acclimated, you know, to Pacific Time. If I'm the Lakers, obviously you definitely disappointed being at home. But you got to get a Spurs credit, man. They got a lot of young cats who can put that ball in the hole, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Young legs.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Ooh, the youth came into play tonight. But like I said, I thought the Lakers were definitely lethargic off of this east coast trip they just came off of. So that first game back, unconocho, it's always a little tough, a little difficult. Your legs are kind of, you know, a little dead. But if I'm the Lakers, I wouldn't put too much into this. I'll probably just kind of wipe my hands with it, chalk it up and prepare for the next one. But the spurs look good, man, considering that they playing without Wimby.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Like they, they, they at the top of the world. You can you look at OKC and what they, what they've done, but the spurs and Lakers have been right there and the spurs have continuously throughout this entire season been playing great basketball. So I, I gotta get them a lot of props. They look good tonight.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean you Ocho Joe spurs got 39 in the first quarter, you got 31 in the second quarter. So that's 70 points at the half. Then they go get 34 in the third, that's 104 points. You're gonna have a very tough time. You let teams score that many points, you're gonna have a hard ass time. Unless you shooting at an elite level. You let a team score like that, you got your work cut out for you. Got your work cut out for you. Yeah, and then they got 28, then they got 28 in the fourth quarter when they, you know, they kind of took their foot off the gas. The issue for the Lakers, and I still believe this Joe and I think you agree is going to be defense, defeat. Can they defend? Can they defend? Because they're going to score. Luke is going to, Luka going to give you. I mean he got an easy, he's look, he's going to go off every four first quarter because he's going to get up about 15 shots. So there's going to be a great chance he's going to have somewhere between 20 and 20, maybe even 30 points. In the first quarter. So he's going to get, he's going to get off to a great start. The question is, can they defend? Because what happens when your shots. See, what happened was they got up to a great start and when he wasn't defending, it was fine because the spurs missed a couple shots and the Lakers, you know, right back at him. But what happens when those shots. Shots start, stop falling? Joe and Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Then all of a sudden the other team couldn't miss. You can't get no stops to quail that rush. Ocho, looking at this game, man, I mean, look Stefan Castle. You see why he run rookie of the year.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You, man. Fox, Dear and Fox.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, that's that boy, man.

Hey, he always, hey, listen, he always been that boy when he was down there in Sacktown. I just. The fact that I'm not sure why certain players, I think depending on where they play, obviously if you're not flamboyant, if you're not flashy, you don't get the credit. You're not, you're not seen on TV as often as you should, you know, I mean, especially those that don't watch the game of basketball. But he liked that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

He always been like that. And as far as the Lakers are concerned, they, they've really never been able to play defense. You understand? That's not the way that team is built. They're, they're, they're offensive juggernaut. And when Rui was off tonight, when Austin Reed was off tonight, you know, it had, it's. Something has to offset them not having defense. So they, they have no choice but to be efficient. They got no choice but to be efficient from the field. And everybody has to be on. Everybody got to be on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I agree.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, tonight you had two, two individuals that score. I mean, they, they, they are part of the scoring. Obviously. LeBron, Luka, you know, they did what they could do. But if Rui and Austin not on, they, they really don't stand no chance. Not just against the spurs, but hell, anybody.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

That can score at will.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They're always going to be a problem. If you go back and study the Lakers, Joe and Ocho, if you look at the Lakers, say the past. Since, let's just take. Since LeBron been there.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thing that's always giving them problems. Elite back courts, quick back courts.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Guys who can.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's always good. Go back and look at, since LeBron has been there, teams that Dear and Fox is always giving them fits. Shay is always going to give them fits. Somebody that has a elite. Tyrese Maxi guys that John Moran, anybody that has an elite backcourt is going to cause them problem because they can't defend that they can't defend on ball. So you come with help, they swing it. You, you rotate one more time now, guys wide open. See, they don't have guys, they don't have guys that they can't rotate multiple times. And the thing what makes OKC so great, they could rotate once, twice, three times, four times, five times a lady. Yeah. And they always gonna have three elite level ball defense, own ball defenders. They're gonna be on the court at all times. Oh yeah, you got Caruso in, you brought Wallace in, you just bring, you just. Isaiah Joe comes in, you, you just. They just keep throwing people at you and at you and at you and at you and it just, and it just overwhelms you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, they got de okc, got defensive minded guys, you know, they playing extended defense, meaning they picking up full court. The Lakers are more built. They gonna try to outscore you period, point blank. And I thought they were very lethargic tonight. Like I said, I thought they was a step or too slow tonight. Too oo. And that young team, that young spurs team, took advantage of a Lakers team, like I said, that had been on the road just coming back home. So they probably was a little relaxed. And like I said, man, the spurs look good, man. They, they sitting top of the west as well. And I look forward to seeing them play okc, man, it's gonna be, they're gonna be a great team, a fun team to watch. So.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I was gonna go to the, I was gonna go to the game, but I ain't going now.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Why? Cause the Lakers ain't playing, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't want to see no OKC and Spurs, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's gonna be a good game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'd rather go watch a worm fight. Oh, man. Two jumping jacks and red wigglers fighting. Who gonna get, who gonna get eaten by the fish?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, first hold up though.

I think we'll be gonna be back though. I think we'll be gonna be back for the championship.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't care about that. Big Ben can be back. The Eiffel Tower can be back. I ain't going.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It's gonna be a hell of a game. Boy, you're gonna wish you went to this game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What you what you would have bet the ratings will be.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They're going to be high. I mean if the Lakers was playing, they'd probably be a Little higher, but.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They gonna be a little Luca and LeBron.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, but I'm saying. Hey, look, you. You can't. You can't deny what OKC doing, though.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Two things can be true, Dr. Yeah.

Think about it. The spurs have always been really, really good. Even when they had Duncan, Even that Manu. And Tony Parker. And then Kawhi came late, right? But they also been a low draw. That's just the way it is. That's just the way it is. Hold on.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey. What? What are they playing that game at, Joe?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Vegas. Vegas. Hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson]

What? Unk that right there. What? That right there. What?

[Shannon Sharpe]

N. I'm sleeping. I'm getting me some rest.

[Joe Johnson]

But hold on. You don't want to go to the game? I can go with.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't.

[Joe Johnson]

You want to go to the game, Joe?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Come on.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm with it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What's up?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, where we going?

[Joe Johnson]

We can fly out there, man. When the game is Saturday. Oh, damn. I got to be in Philly, man. Thank you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah. See, I knew it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I think I got something to do, too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And I got to be in my bed.

[Joe Johnson]

You ain't got to be in it. You ain't got.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I got to be in the bed. You don't have to.

[Joe Johnson]

You don't have to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What I gotta do?

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, I'm gonna tell you like crazy Joe told him, and lean on me.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What do you think?

[Joe Johnson]

All you got to do, stay black. And when it's time to go, it's time to go. That's it. Anything else outside of that, you ain't got. We can go to the game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, you can't, y'. All, man, I do not wish to go to the game.

I've never seen Luca play, so. I wanted to see Luca.

[Joe Johnson]

So if the Lakers was playing, you would have went to the game?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I absolutely would have went to the game. Absolutely. One thousand, a trillion percent.

[Joe Johnson]

You would have said. You would have said. Course side.

[Shannon Sharpe]

10 million percent.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If they do. If they did it like the first time they did it, Joe, you know, it was like. It really wasn't like no court side. It's kind of hard to explain, right? Yeah, but it was cool. It was cool. The lights, you know, the Lakers won the first one. They beat Indiana. LeBron was the. The MVP of the thing, so. Yeah, it was really good. But, yeah, that was my guard.

[Joe Johnson]

Like.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ah, yeah. Lakers, they let me down. So I guess I got to wait for another game to see Luca. Yeah, it was it was uphill.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Climb all night, man. Uphill.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, and they got off to a great start. I thought the Lakers got off to a really good start. But then look, and the thing is, if you get off to a great start and you're not playing defense, that's fine. But what happens when you start missing shots and you're not playing defense and.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You can't keep nobody in front of.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You, so now all of a sudden, lay up, they miss a shot, they get the rebound put back. You was upset, now you're up for Kelvin Johnson, comes in, hit back to back threes to get them going. And then from that point on, they really never look back. I, I don't, I don't. For me, I never got the sense that the Lakers were really, really into it. I mean, I think they cut it to 8 and then the spurs push it back to 12 right before the half. And then they come right at the half and hit a three to start. Lakers hit a three and the next thing you know they go boom, boom, boom, boom. And next thing you know, what was a 12 point lead is a 20 point lead. It's just like that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

The spurs are deep, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They deep.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They got a deep team, man. They got a lot of guys who contribute. They don't just lean on one guy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They hit you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no way.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So I was impressed. I ain't gonna lie, I was impressed. They've been playing great ball all season. So it was, you know, good to kind of see them going LA and really take that challenge and really just take control of the game. And I looked up to start the third, the second half, I thought the Lakers was down 10 or so. Next thing I know, they down 20.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, they were down. They were, they started, they were down 10. They were down, you know, okay, they made it three and then I think it was Barnes to come back and match it with a three. And then next thing you know, they go like go 8, 0. And just like that, it's. It's 20, it's 24. And they really, really, like I said, I think Austin Reeves struggled tonight. He just didn't have it tonight for whatever reason. Look, like you said, it was a tough game for them in Philly because that was a game Luca played extremely well. Ron had what, 29 and played extremely well. Austin did what. Did what he does, but tonight they just, they just didn't have it. And I think, I don't know if it was. I think it was more so the spurs than the Lakers not having it. I think the spurs aided them then not, not having it because they were able to push the pace the way they got guys that can handle the ball. Stefan Castle is amazing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Bro, get a heads in. Darren Fox had, you know, Austin Reeves on skates. Kelvin Johnson came in. Vassal didn't even really play that well tonight. I thought Cornet, Cornette gave him some valuable minutes inside with his presence, rebounding challenging shots. They turned the ball over, had an opportunity to probably put a little bit more distance between when they had a six point lead, maybe could have pushed it to eight to 10. But some turnovers, they got careless and you know, layups on the other end and so no, I, I, I think, look.

I think the Lakers are going to be fine. Do I think right now they probably need another defender? They probably need another defender. That can depend on the perimeter because it seemed like Vanderbilt is out of the rotation. Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I know. I ain't seen it, man. I like old Van though. I like his energy and effort that he bring to the game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And it seems like tonight they could have used, I thought Marcus Smart came in and gave him some, he did some big minutes. But Uncle Ocho, the Lakers gonna struggle, man. When you can't keep guys in front of you and you keep getting your defense broke down, the guys spraying out for three, throwing lives, shooting floaters, it's just, that's gonna be hard. That's gonna be tough. It's gonna be tough to deal with. So they're gonna have to, it's gonna.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Be hard for Vandal to play also Joe, because he can't shoot the three because they're going to come help off Luca, they're going to come help off Reeves, they're going to come help out Braun. So when they swing it, do you see how many open threes that Marcus Smart got? Yeah, when they kept swinging. Kept swinging. They kept swinging. You see Rui open threes. Open threes. The Toronto game, what happened? They collapsed on Braun. Rui wide open. Yeah, Marcus Smart, I mean, I mean he, he came in, I think he, he might have got 10 or 11 three point attempts and I'm not so sure any of them was contested. So that's why it's going to be hard for Vando to play. Yeah, he's a, he's, he's a good wing defender, own ball defender. But if you can't shoot the three, it's going to be hard for you to get. Unless, unless you're 8 and D A unless you're Aiden. Everybody's gonna have to be able to shoot the three.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, it's, it's just, it's tough because they put it put so much pressure on the Lakers perimeter guys because Austin, Luca and Brian obviously all perimeter guys and they got to be efficient for them to really look good. You know, they can't really, you know, afford to, you know, not have good nights because it's going to be nice like this where you don't really get a lot of points in the paint and you can't really depend on Aiden like that since, you know, obviously LeBron's come back, his, you know, his production, his productivity is going to probably kind of dwindle a little bit, you know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Yeah, it is. He's not gonna get as many lobs from LUCA. I mean, LeBron was looking for him a little bit tonight, but hey, look, I expect. Long as they can give us. Look, I'm expecting somewhere. If he can give us 14 to 16 on a night Joe with a double figure rebound, that's, that's pretty much what you can expect for him. Every once in a while, he'll surprise you and give you 24 and 12, 24 and 14. But that's not a normal occurrence. I'm not really expecting. I'm not, I'm not going to set my clock by that.

You can set your clock by. No, you can't. No, you can't.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm anxious to see what they look like, what the spurs look like against the thunder because the thunder was suffocating Tonight. They crushed the sun. Beat about almost 40. Beat him about 39. Beat them by. Yeah, 30, 39 points.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They weigh you down, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The Thunder improved to a 241 and not tied for the best record in NBA history through 25 games. Shay scored 28 points on 11 or 15 shooting. Chet had 24 points on 9 of 13 shooting. Let that sink in for a second.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And neither one of them played in the fourth.

[Joe Johnson]

Eden, boy. Hey, hey, hey. Joe and Unc, you think. You think the Thunder have a chance to actually beat the Warrior record?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And I think they want to.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

So basically what y' all telling me is they basically gonna repeat.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I already been been said that.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, you think? Oh, you. Oh, you serious? They gonna.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Man, they look like a team on a mission. Oo, they don't. They. They not playing. Do you see them boys out there, man? How they compete? They play hard, man. They play hard. They pick up full court and. And what it does, it wears you down.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know what I mean?

[Chad Ochocinco]

And they hit you in waves. They got guys coming off the bench who get into it. They not playing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. They sincere. What. You know what? What's. I think the most impressive thing about them about this team, that it looks to me from the outside looking in, and Joe, you would know better than I would, is that they sincerely, genuinely like each other. Now, I know there's not a whole lot going on in okc. There ain't a whole lot of things you can do. You can't go to Rock on Rodeo Drive, or you can't go Canal, or you can't go to Art Basel. You can't do all those things in okc. Right. For whatever reason, they sincerely, genuinely. I look, to me, they really like each other.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I love to see them. When one's doing it, when Shay's doing an interview or somebody's doing an interview, everybody's standing around and they watch and they clapping for. And that's what you gotta have. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Hey, hey, Uncle Ocho. And they understand the assignment, man. They. They not hungover from the championship. They just won. Look, they. What you say, Uncle? They got the best record through 26 games. 25.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They tied. They tied with the Warriors 24 and 1. Through 25 games, they.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They not playing, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know, they. They really taking the game serious and understanding what's at stake and how they can, you know, stamp their way into NBA history. You know what I mean? This is. It's amazing to watch, bro. Like, how they hit you in waves, you can't double shape for real because they got too many guys.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All the guys can shoot three. Phil.

[Chad Ochocinco]

The game look too easy for him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

There was 52 of. There was 52 of 88 from the floor. They shot 59 from the floor. They shot 55 from the 3. They shot 92 from the free throw line. They out rebounded. They, they only out rebound them by six. But the biggest lead of the game was 53.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, but it was, it was ugly.

[Joe Johnson]

Did the other team even show up? Did you at least pinch them?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Joe. Well, it looked like they would didn't take the warm ups off if they did show up.

OKC got got right to it. Yeah, they got right to it. They did not fool around and that's what they. They're not fooling around. They're dispatching teams and they're like, hey, let's go ahead and do what we need to do and get up out of here.

[Joe Johnson]

Get up out of here. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, hey, hey.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And Shay making easy work. He getting his numbers quick. He ain't playing. He getting right to it. And then they don't have a drop off when they do substitute, you know, guys coming in off the bench, they still playing with that intensity and effort that it takes to be a championship team. I enjoy watching them, man. I enjoy watching them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They not my cup of Teo. I like, you know, for me, I like. The NBA is built on stars, Joe. You know that. It's all. It's always been about that. That's why everybody's trying to get one every. It's been about magic, it's been about Bird, it's been about Jordan, it's been about LeBron, it's been about Stephen, been about KD. The NBA has always. It's been about Dr. J.

[Joe Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what forced them. Dr. J. So it, it's not going to change. It's not going to change. That's why everybody tries to get one. Because if you got one, the, the fans are going to come to watch when they. You go on the road, fans are going to want to see.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So Luca and LeBron and Steph and.

It is what it is. But to watch them play collectively and to see how they do things and to see it's matter of fact, this business, we're going to take care of business. Yeah. We're going to rag each other. I could just imagine what those plane rides and those bus rides to the stadium. I can just imagine what it's like because I believe they genuinely and sincerely like each other. Yeah. But when they own that court, they straight business.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Hey, and. And. And they make the game easier for each other. Meaning, like, you can't keep them dudes in front of you. They gonna always get in that paint. We always talk about paint touches to where you make the game easier, where you can spray out for threes, where you can throw check lobs. You know what I mean? You get those. You get those guys involved like that, man. It's just. It's downhill after that from there. It's just exciting. It's an exciting brand of basketball to watch. And the pressure. The pressure that they. That they bring on defense. See, they defense, it initiates their offense. It ignites the offense. Meaning, like, they get so many easy baskets off just playing great defense, and it's nothing. It's not another team can do. It's suffocating, man. It's suffocating. And the chemistry that they play with, the continuity that they have is amazing, bro. Like, I. I really. I hadn't seen a lot of teams play like this.

[Joe Johnson]

I used to the words right out my mouth, being able to play on both ends of the courts because them boys so young, they got their leg that fourth quarter come, they still got their legs up underneath.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They able to. Best part, you know, the best part about it is.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What's that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Is that they got a guy that ain't nobody to challenge. Shay, is that the thing that helped Michael Jordan is that Scotty Pippen never challenged him. Says, I'm just as good. I'm. I should be the A side. Yeah, that. When you got that, now it's rightfully so. I understand Kobe. We saw what Kobe became, but it kind of rubbed it. Magic and Kareem. Magic was really. Hey, I'm good. I'm gonna stay at my place. Y' all do a. Hey, Pat Riley goes to Magic. Magic used to call him Pat Rod used to call Magic Johnson Buck. Hey, Buck, I'm need you to score more, man. Say, hey, you talk to Kareem about this? You didn't run that by Kareem? Yeah, I talked to him. He said, good. Okay. Yeah, Magic wins the mvp. So as long. As long as it stays like that, you got to have a pecking order joke. I agree. You gotta have a CEO, you gotta have a president, you gotta have a vp. Everybody has to play their. Everybody has to play the uk hey, man, it's hard to put Denzel, Samuel Jackson, Tom Hanks, and Tom Cruise in the same movie. How you do that? Ocho?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey.

It sound. It sound like box office to me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. I like who name being who name first.

Yeah. Tom Hanks, Tom Cruise, Denzel Washington, and Samuel Jackson. Who named going for art? And just for good measures, I'm gonna throw Jack Nicholson in there when he was in this doing his thing. All right, who named going first Ocho?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't.

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[Joe Johnson]

Hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Exactly.

[Joe Johnson]

That's tough.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did you hear Prince. Prince say he was supposed to be in.

When they beat it?

[Joe Johnson]

When.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When Michael Jackson tell Wesley Snipe, your ass is mine.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Well, who said that to who? He definitely not saying that to me, and I'm not gonna say that to him. Right. So.

We not gonna do nothing together.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's kind of like Harlem night. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, that's my movie.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you talking about when you had Eddie and Richard Red Fox. R. You had.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you said Ronaldo Ray. Yeah. Charlie Murphy.

[Joe Johnson]

What's Della Reese?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Della Reese.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, Richard Pryor.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. So when you. When you. Or the same thing with life. You had Bernie Mac, you had Eddie Murphy, you had Martin Lawrence. You have.

Hey, okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey. It may be. It may be a pecker order in the okc, but. But all them guys are oozing with confidence like Jay Z. Williams. Since he's been back, they. They hadn't dropped off, he's been. No, I think he's been pretty aggressive. You know, he's asserting himself to, you know, let. Let people know that he's. He's still.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That dude. Still here. I'm still. You know what I mean? Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It's gonna be. It's gonna be hard to beat them dudes, man, especially.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, for sure. Oh, for sure.

[Chad Ochocinco]

For sure.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. SGA gave Chris Paul for the team success in recent years. Chris was really the first person to show me what it meant to be a professional. He was always doing extra. It was more so off the court than on the court. It's the things that you don't think about as a kid. As a kid, you're taught to just work super hard, but you're really not taught nutrition, taking care of your body, getting massages, getting treatment, those type of things. He was always on top of. He's just had to get better. He just had to get better mentality in every way. In every way of life.

[Chad Ochocinco]

See, that's what it takes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But see, that's what OKC needed. That's not what the Clippers need. You see, they got James Harden. He ain't no young guy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They got Kawhi. He ain't no young guy.

[Joe Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They got Zubots. He not no young guy. Chris Dunn, he ain't no young guy. You see, Ocho? You see what you need?

[Joe Johnson]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Just because you get hired at the bank, that don't mean they need a teller. That don't mean they need a loan officer. Sometimes they just need somebody to work security, somebody. Sometimes they just need somebody to take out the trash. You need to understand what you're getting high for. Just because you work at the bank, that don't make you the CEO. That'll make you the number one loan officer. You see what I'm saying, Ocho?

[Joe Johnson]

But in, you know, the hard. The hard part, especially with people with ego and pride, most of them don't know their role. Everybody want to be the boss. Everybody want to be the head honcho. I mean, you. You get. You get that job at the bank, everybody want to be the CEO.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

There is no pecking order because people can't set pride and ego aside. I think what the Thunder have done really well is everybody understands their role. And it fits. It fits perfectly.

That's why they play so goddamn well.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Somebody bring coffee. Somebody bring milk. Somebody bring the donuts. Somebody bring the breakfast sandwiches. Who got the napkins?

Who got the paper? Who got the knives and forks? Everybody got a job. Everybody got a role. And the way y' all look at it, and I think the way they see it, Joe, nobody role is more important than the other. Yeah, you might be bringing the donuts. And all I'm asked to do is bring plastic everywhere. All I might be asked to bring napkins. Yeah, you know what? I might not be asked to bring anything because it's not my week too.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Next week I might have to bring coffee. I might need to bring juice.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. You can, you can tell, though, when you watch them play. When you watch.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, you can play.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They know, you know, Shay's the leader. And those guys follow his lead. Man, it's. It's. It's a beautiful thing to watch. But like I say, man, they never have a drop off, though. It don't matter who's in the game. That's championship pedigree. Championship basketball. And yes, I do have them repeating.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, it's gonna be tough for somebody to beat them in seven games. Yeah, see, that's the thing about football, Joe. You get one shot I might take, you have an off game, your ass going home.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right. I just gotta be better than you. That.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That day, that day, that day, and your ass going home. In basketball, somebody have an off day. Just like. What was that? 85.

[Chad Ochocinco]

When the.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The Celtics blew the Lakers out, they called the Memorial Day Massacre. Beat them by like 30, 40.

Everybody thought it was over. Laker came right back. Wawa.

Before we move on to football, a lot of shows have responded to the podcast challenge.

The Pivot 85 South. How we like our chances, guys?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, man, we. Hey, listen. All you hearing right, if you listen to the. The people that responded, if you listen to what they're saying, that's false confidence, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They.

[Joe Johnson]

They not even talking with confidence up. Like, I. We really do this. We really do this. We really competed the highest level. Joe, you competed at the highest level. Unc, you competed at the highest level. I competed at the highest level, and I talk that when I do it. Ain't nobody that responded today gonna beat us in nothing. Nathaniel and I stand on that. I stamp that. I'm talking about 10 toes. And if I was prime, eight toes.

They're not doing nothing with us, man. With all due respect to them, if there's a. If there's a way that we can make this happen, we talk about making history. You know, all us uniting, having fun. A podcast, Olympics or decathlon, whatever it may be, and just doing something competitive, man, that would be so fun and so dope, man. For. For all parties involved. It'd be like one big ass.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, it'd be. It's very uplifting. Instead of a, you know, podcast taking shots at each other and bliss and that. Yeah, yeah. You know what let's do? So let's show some positivity.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Everybody getting bread in this. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We know some making more than others, but we all. We all able to provide a very good life for our families. So, you know what? Let's do something positive.

Y' all don't know. Now, they are nobody from nightcap on that table tennis because Shannon Lee ain't to be messed with.

You know, we call it's pool, but you want to call it billiards. We call it whatever you want to. You get your ass to work.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, and it don't matter how many balls you want on the table.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Hey, would you want to play eight ball? You want to play nine ball? You want to play. Play a five, Whatever.

Yourself. Play eight. We play whatever you want to play. As a matter of fact, just to make sure you know that it's real skill, we'll play last pocket. Wherever the ball go in the last pocket, the eight ball got to go in that pocket. Why Y' all bumping them? Because I know you don't know nothing about that. Everybody talking about, man. I know. Hey, P. Mac. I heard you talking about. You know how to play talk. Boy, look here. Hey, P. M. You must be happy. Hey, hey, guess what? Guest host for the day of the Pat McAfee show, yours truly don't play.

Okay. It'll be o. Joe. Joe posted a p. Mat show for a whole three hours on ESPN and YouTube.

[Joe Johnson]

You know what else would be a good one?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I. I just thought about with it.

[Joe Johnson]

Paintball.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Paintball.

[Joe Johnson]

Paintball. And three on three on three, paintball.

I'm just trying to think. I'm just trying to think of things that are competitive, that would be fun, not just for us to do, but I'm talking about the masses is going.

[Shannon Sharpe]

To be tuned in whatever, horseshoe, whatever. Bowling. Somebody mentioned bowling. Whatever.

As a matter of fact, if y'. All. Y' all want to. We throw y' all ass down the lane.

Y' all want to do it?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, we can do the Frisbee.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We can skip rocks across the wall, whatever.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe, what you know about skipping rocks, man?

[Chad Ochocinco]

You don't know nothing about skipping no rocks, crossing no water.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If you're from the country, you know, skipping rock on the lake.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, Dodgeball.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Listen.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, it's a lot out there, too, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, everybody feel. I mean, everybody talking. I. I mean, I really like the false bravado. Everybody would like. I could do. Yeah, okay. Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Sound good.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, this what I'm talking about right here. This that cool. This is some of that cool I'm talking about right here.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, yeah, yeah, whatever you want to do. Table. Like I said, table tennis, whatever. Hey, marbles. We could play jacks.

Yeah, yeah. And pick up one jack, three jacks, four jacks. If you swipe them all.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Y'.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All.

[Joe Johnson]

You remember get like me. Y' all might have called us something.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah. We flipping coins. Get like me. We both got heads like. Let me get that. Yeah. Hey, we. You close it to the wall. We can put it in the cup, however.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, what 85 south said. They said what they said they get.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So. Hey, first of all, D.C. they probably gonna send D.C. los and Chico.

That three. Look here, I already know. Lo swear he can do something, but I know. I know D.C.

Ain'T no athlete. I know Chico ain't no athlete. Nope. Athletics does not run in that gene pool.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, we gotta make this happen, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Be ready. That's gonna be dope, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So whatever. Whatever. In the words of.

Maxwell Wherever. Whenever.

[Joe Johnson]

I like it.

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[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Aberberry reported that Kevin Stefanski likely wants out of Cleveland. The one thing that would be really frustrating for me if the the coach in Cleveland. You've been trying to make decision for football reasons and no one will accept them. I can tell you just knowing the number of people that I know work there. That quarterback situation was handled this year over the last six, seven months in a way that was based solely on how guys were performing in practice. It makes Stefanski look bad now because George played well. If you're Kevin and you're making all these decisions based on football decision and you made a lot of other decisions over the years that were constantly second guessed. This way is constantly at circus. Well, you'd be sick of it had this become, you know, this hasn't worked out for either one of us in the last couple years. So maybe it's just time.

He's 6 and 24. 2:50 2:50 win percentage over the last two years. He's a two time coach of the year. Ocho.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What are you thinking?

[Joe Johnson]

I mean it's tough. I think Stefanski is in a tough spot obviously with 6 and 24 having, having, you know, on your resume being coach of the year two times, I think that that saves you and gives you a little bit more grace. But obviously, you know, you can't operate without a quarterback. You can't operate without quarterback. So understanding what we've seen from Shador so Far and, and the, the. The stuff and the actions that, that occurred before he was put in position to be the starter. Obviously you always want, you want your best player out there playing quarterback for you. That gives you your best chance to win. And most of the time. I say it all the time, Uncle. You say it all the time. Players get coaches fired. Players get coaches fired. So for a coach, you would always want to be in a position to have players in there that can do right by you, that can do right. Do right by you. Not just you, but your team and team as well, and give yourself a chance and give you some grace and longevity as a coach. So I'm not sure why they're playing, why the games have been played in general in Cleveland. It's been a damn circus, huh? It's been a goddamn circuit, Joe. So it just, and just some of the, some of the play call. I don't want to get into all that. We've all seen it. We've all heard it. You know, something's right. And anyone that says it's not right, based on all the evidence that we've seen since the draft up until this point, I mean, you just turn the blind eye to the bullshit.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What, what if there's a situation, Ocho, where Kevin Stefanski really wanted to place your door and he was handcuffed.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But hold on.

You think that's possible?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what it sounds like to me. I mean, if, if we're to believe what Albert Bridge being reported.

How much. How much say do we believe? How much say do we believe that Kevin Stefans can have over the final, the final 53? How much say does he have in the draft? How much say does he have in free agency? Does he have, say, like, say, Mike Tomlin, like an Andy Reid, like a Sean McVeigh? He had a Mike Vrabel. You think he has that kind of say, Ocho?

[Joe Johnson]

I would think so. Sean Payton, two time coach of the year, would have some say so. And, and some of the personnel that he brings in. I, I would think so. And I told, I, I told on the other night, right. With some of the things that were going on, I felt like basically Kevin Stefanski was basically Nico Harris.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I thought he was taking the fall. Yeah, you did.

[Joe Johnson]

He's taking a fall for all. For the upper management above his pay grade, that no owner came out and said, listen, this wasn't my pick. I didn't want Shador. So I think he's taking the, the Blunt and all the heat and, and his hands are tied. So I mean uncle, what you said it might be a possibility. We had no control over it. And maybe he did want him to start the whole time but you know, there's a pecking order like we just talked about.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Third round pick. Oh well, well he's the third round pick for a reason. So he's always going to be get first dibs no matter what.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you not know, you're not, you're not normally taking quarterbacks a third and because you ask him for trouble. The last time we saw somebody take a quarterback because look, go back and look at Washington. Mike didn't want to take a quarterback, didn't want to trade that pick. He felt they could sit right there where they were and get the quarterback that they wanted. He really liked Cousins and he felt he could get Cousins where they got Cousins and could be fine. Yeah, you're in salary cap hell because remember that was the year that the uncapped year and everybody dumped all their money in that Dallas and Washington had to pay all that salary cap money because they had dumped all that in a non cap year. And the NFL said nah, you couldn't do that, you're cheating. So they take a quarterback at number two and then they turn right around and take Cousins.

Who. How do you think this was going to work out? O Joe, you take a quarterback in the third round and then you take another quarterback in the fifth round. How did you think this is going to work out?

[Joe Johnson]

I think maybe, maybe, maybe security. That's the only thing I can think of. Security.

Understanding that Joe Flacco was going to only give. Only give you so much time left at his age, you know. Okay, we got. Yeah, but are we sure Dylan Gabriel is the answer? You know what, we're not sure if so we gonna take another one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why you take it, huh? You who goes into normally. That's not how you supposed. That's not how you draft Joe. You don't draft the guy and say, well he might not be it. If you think he might not be it, why you draft him? That's good question, but I'm not going to the store. You buying a car, man, this car might put me down so. But I'm gonna go ahead and buy it anyway. Yeah, go ahead Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Listen, but, but when we think about it, statistically, from training camp to preseason, Shedeur has had the best statistics from what we've seen.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know what I mean? So it's like to me it almost kind of feels like perfect timing. Like you Say Gabriel went. Dylan Gabriel went third, third round, and Shador went fifth. It's kind of a pick and water. I'm kind of piggyback what Ocho said, but I think Shador has now took the reins, and I don't think he's gonna give it back, man. I don't know. I think the young man is. He knows what's at State. He knows everybody's watching. And, man, he just looked like a guy with a lot of confidence and poise out there. He, he, he looked great on the center.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And if you think about it, Ocho, look at the guys he was throwing to. All the guys that he was throwing to was the rookies that came in with him.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So it's not an accident.

Those are most of the guys that he was getting the reps with.

[Joe Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's just hard for me to see a scenario. I mean, like, like I said, some people say that didn't happen, but I, I, I've never been on a team where the backup didn't get something, didn't get at least two reps a period, right?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, always. It's interesting.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, we had veteran. We had a veteran quarterback in Trent Dilfer, who backed up Tony Banks, and he still got two reps a period. Yeah, we had a veteran Randall. Randall Cunningham, who back backed up Elvis Gerbach, and he still got two reps a period, maybe three.

Yeah, I play. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, what is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Was that in 2001 in Baltimore? Hey, that's dope.

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't know Randall was in. I was there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I didn't know Randall was there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh.

[Joe Johnson]

And that's dope, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So. So this notion that you wouldn't give a rookie that had the potential to go in the game any reps when veterans that have been starters.

Had been the Pro Bowls was getting reps is just. I, it was just unconscionable to me that people thought that was okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's what I can understand. Look, if y' all don't understand. I know. I don't know. I'm like, man, I don't know what's going on out here.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look, yeah, we know.

Every coach, every general manager has their guy in the media when they want to get certain things out. Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. They know how to get it out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm not saying this is the case, but I'm saying I know that to be factual.

So when I want to get something out, I know who to get it to. Sources in the NFL? No. Your source with the team told you that Ain't no NFL. Your source with the team told you that. I know how it works.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I just like, you know me, I just like to, I just talk because I don't like to get information. I don't. Because I, I be, I, I be using it and they gonna. Yeah, the person that I'm talking about go, no, I got that from a very, very reputable person. So I just let, I just let stuff go. I just like, you know, hey, from my, from my personal experience and how stuff go. But y' all best believe.

Oh yeah, I be knowing. But I mean he's a two time coach of the year, Ocho.

I don't know. Look, the Baker situation.

How that worked out.

The Shador, how that's playing out, who knows, maybe, maybe they, maybe they want a high draft pick. I don't know. Mendoza, I believe Mendoza is going to win the Heisman Trophy on Saturday.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's just. And he oo. He might turn around and he might be.

Who knows? Great. Historically great.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But as I look at him and look at Shador.

I mean if Shador had that kind of offensive line protection when he was in college.

Are we, are we sure? Yeah. So I, I don't know if Stefanski want out. Maybe that's a situation where they, they probably want him out. I don't think he'd be unemployed long. I mean he is a two time coach of the year, Ocho. He is fairly young.

But look, they're gonna be some openings. What? Well, first of all, we already know they're gonna be two openings in Tennessee and the Giants. And the likelihood there might be more. Who knows, it might be one in, in Las Vegas. Damn. I really know. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And Pete just got there, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

Just be leaving too.

But hey, the thing is and NFL, you remember Ocho, a couple years ago they said that memo out, man, y' all gotta stop hiring and firing. Because think about it, the John Gruden thing, he got AP on the contract. He still got to pay that. Now you got Pete. So you got three guys that ain't coaching for you that you paying.

And then if you bring another coach in, you got to pay him. That's for and staff.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, it's impatience. Impatience.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So it's going to be very interesting to see how this thing plays out, Ojo. But at the end of the day, you know what's in that division? Joe Burrow's in that division. When he's healthy, he's unbelievable. The thing is, is that he does. He's not Healthy all the time. Lamar is in that division.

I just. Lamar is hurt and he's missing throws and he's not like, he's not running like he once did, Ocho, because I think he's afraid he's gonna hurt that hamstring again. And so he, he. Look, Lamar is missing throws that Lamar hadn't missed since his rookie year.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So in order for you to, to be in that division, you, your quarterback's got to play well. You got Aaron Rodgers. Now we don't know if he's going to come back, you know, be at 42 and coming back, I don't know. But you gotta, you got, you got to have a quarterback in that division. Just like the afc, the AFC west, you got to have a quarterback, AFC south quarterback. You got Stroud, you got Lawrence. And they had competent quarterback play in, in iny for a while until he got hurt. And now it seems like he's going to hell in the hand basket. They had, they brought a granddad out of retirement, so it's gonna, it's gonna be very, very interesting to see how this thing plays out in Cleveland.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, y' all think they're gonna sign Philly River?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah, yeah, they already signed it. Oh, did they? Yeah. The question, is he gonna start? That's the question. And the question, if they gonna sign him, he goes, if he gonna start?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm saying, who else they got that can play in front of him?

[Shannon Sharpe]

They got Riley Leonard, but he got a banged up knee.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, he's starting. He's starting, he's starting. Listen, hey, hey, Joe. I mean, there's a relationship and an understanding of, of scheme and tactics between Shane Steichen and Philip Rivers. So the, the system, he's very familiar with it. And because he's so familiar with the system, all it is now and is getting as much timing and chemistry as you can, you know, with the offense and with the players right now. But he's going to start Sunday. I'm not sure out for what he does is he, he, he's giving and hoping and giving that team a chance to keep their head above water because they still have a chance to make the playoffs. And they're just trying to see this. We gonna kick, we gonna kick these tires and, and see what Philip Rivers can do for us, you know, for the rest of the season to see if we can make a run, make a run at the playoffs and, and he's in there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They got to stay high because they gave up those two first round picks. Hey, they Gave up two first round picks. And the further you fall down understanding, the higher those picks are. Yeah. So guess what? Next year, if Daniel Jones doesn't come back healthy until. Because he was dealing with a broken leg, and now he's got a torn Achilles, don't you? So he's got to heal two injuries.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Now you mess around it. Now you mess around and be like, the India Bowl.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Where the jets gonna get a top five pick. Yeah. Back we might have two top five picks because they gonna look like they might be some sloth because they're looking for a quarterback, too.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, you right back at square one.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, them injuries gonna take a while to heal, man. You ain't gonna be able to rush Daniel Jones back with. With them two injuries right there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That was the only reason. That was the only reason they was playing.

With that broken. I think it was a tibia, lower leg.

Tip. Fibula.

[Joe Johnson]

Fibula. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So I. That's the only reason playing Joe Ocho and Joe is because they were in prime position to make the playoffs. Make the playoffs. That mean the pick's gonna probably be way on down there. 24. Somewhere between 24 and 32. You can live with that. I ain't really trying to get no top 10. No. You know, team pick. No. No early team, no top 10 pick. I ain't really trying to do that for you, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because they went all in. When you make that trade for Sauce Gardner, you basically said, I'm all in. I'm jumping on this thing with both feet.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. How long Sauce gonna be out?

[Shannon Sharpe]

He nicked. I mean, he got a calf injury. Ain't no telling.

And then, plus Daniel Jones. It don't matter what Sauce doing. You gotta have a quarterback.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hell, he can't throw the ball.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, he. He might. He might be 44, but that. That's all you got. And even at 44, man, it's hard.

[Shannon Sharpe]

For me to believe. It's hard for me to believe that you couldn't go. You couldn't. You couldn't scour 31 other teams, practice squad and say, hey, bro, this is an opportunity for you to start.

[Joe Johnson]

Absolutely not.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, they reached out to Sam Ellinger, who's on the Broncos practice squad. He said, no, I'm good. He said, all y' all gonna do is get me over there, and then at the end of the season, y' all gonna cut me. Let me stay right there where I am. I know the system. I'm cool.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. And hold on. I got one for you. Better. Even if they're all 31 other teams with 31 other backups, how many of those 31 of the backups are better than Philip Rivers, even right now at 44?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, we're gonna find out on Sunday, right? And so I want you to wear your ass off your Sunday.

[Chad Ochocinco]

All right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right. Because you listen. You know this.

Your spidey senses, even in the off season, from the time that you. From the time your last game until the time you come back, your spidey senses have to heighten. They have to get back in alignment. They don't tingle like they once did. Can you imagine? OO can you imagine? Let's just say for the sake of argument, Oo you30, you don't play the game for five years. And they say, you know what? Oo come on back out. And you come back out there in 35, boy, you gonna be running through man's own read. They gonna be tear your ass up.

You gonna be.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I. I think if anything, he. He might be just a. Be a beat off. That's it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Ain't nothing changed. O choice. It's not like he was running. It's not like he was. Michael Vic before he left. No, absolutely not. He was stationary. He. He had cement shoes on when he.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Was 25, man, he was gonna be handing that lead. He fa be handing that thing off. If y'.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All. You see what they did? Is that because they know Daniel Jones can't run like he once did. They stacked the line. They said, no, we're not gonna let. We're not gonna let John JT Beat us. Beat us throwing the ball.

They took that away from him. Oh, the Eagles positivity. Rabbit makes a quick exit via Jeff Mlan, the Philadelphia Inquire. The inflatable rabbit that was installed last week to bring goodbyes to Eagle locker room has been removed. The Eagles lost to the charges. First and only game played with the rabbit in the house. Joe, you ever do some things like this in the locker room to help you break a losing streak?

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, not that I could think of. Not that I could think of. But you got to get that up out of there, boy. Hey, that was. That was a.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, you gotta go, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

So they gonna. They're gonna blame it on the rabbit.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They blame it on the rabbit.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Yeah, you gotta blame somebody.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, hey, Ocho, what do you care? For good. Look, a rabbit's foot. They got a whole big ass rabbit in there.

[Joe Johnson]

They.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, look, you got to go. Yeah.

Hey, my brother, we Went to the fair and my brother run a. A rabbit's foot. You know, used to have rabbit foot keychain, Joe. You remember that?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If my brother want a rabbit foot, well, the rabbit foot keychain. And my grandma took it and put the hive keys on the. I like. I don't know why we got a house. Ain't nobody gonna bring in this racket. I mean, ain't nobody gonna break it here. Trust me.

One time the robber did break in the house, we robbed him. Get your broke ass up out of here. But I mean, they a even get a thing a chance though, guys. I mean, one week now, when you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Lose like that, y' all know, hey, hey, something gots to go.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, same same thing. Same thing with the Raven. You see, they took all them. TV took TVs out. Ping Pong machine, Papa shot.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They better put them back in there because they've been losing everything. Hey, they won a couple of games. They've been losing ever since. Put them back in there. As a matter of fact, Brain, for new ones, y' all keep them old ones out, but bring some new ones.

[Joe Johnson]

That stuff ain't got nothing to do with nothing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, look here, man, we had a situation where we. I think we lost. This was 94. 94. I think we started the season 0 and 4. Damn, man. Joe Ocho, we come to work. Yeah, Wednesday, everybody gotta. Got a piece of rope about this long hanging in the locker. Just hold on to the rope, guys. It's gonna get better.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, Ego, when you getting bashed, you got to find a way to shake things up, man. You got to find a way to take things up, try to get back on track. That's the hardest part, boy. You're going to lose a streak. It seemed like you can't get off it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can't. It's the same thing with a winning streak. You see, like when you go on a winning streak, you can't lose. You fight. When you kick a field, you kick a walk off field goal. You block a field goal, you do something, a pass interference call to keep a drive alive. Now you're able to run out the clock or ojo. It's something. But when you lose, you're like, damn.

[Joe Johnson]

And it's funny too. Hey, Uncle Joe, when you winning, for some reason, luck is always on your side. Because, yeah, to win consistently, you need a little bit of luck. Obviously, preparation is one thing, but for some reason, everything always seemed to go right. The ball always bouncing your favor or the ball Always bounce your way. But when you're losing, you don't want.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You don't want to talk nobody. Hell, no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What we talking about.

Man?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Listen, I know that feeling. I promise you, boy. When I first got here to Atlanta, Uncle Ocho.

In 2005, when I first.

[Joe Johnson]

Got here to Atlanta, yeah, it was bad, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

We started off 3 and 28.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn, Joe. What?

[Chad Ochocinco]

We start off 3 and 28, and.

[Joe Johnson]

Y' all could have used me back then.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Joe, wait.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Listen, Uncle Ocho, I wasn't even eating. I'm coming home, going right to sleep. I don't want to hang out. I don't want to do nothing. I can't even enjoy myself. When you lose like that, you can't enjoy yourself.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know what happened, Joe? Somebody see y'. All. That's why you lose it. You need to have your ass in the playbook.

Damn, bro, I can't get no food. Damn.

Right.

I'm in black.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It's hard, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And don't go to no club.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, if you lose, can you imagine? Because it ain't like it is now. I mean, I don't know if maybe they still do it. Maybe they still. You know, guys, they still got the club, and it's like, that's why y' all lose your ass in the club all the time.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

But it probably. Now, if you're at the club, they probably put that thing on social media, Joe. I mean, you got social media. You got platform where people see you out.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Take a picture.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It's the world's small now. You can't do nothing, man. I'm talking about nothing. Somebody always watching you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Somebody's always watching, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, man, let me tell you what happened to me today, Joe. Oh, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I started to film this. Look at Joe. You hear Joy back there laughing.

So I go down. Shelly ordered me an Uber. I go down. The guys. The guys like Ms. Davis. I was like, yeah, that's me. I go get an uber. We're about 15 minutes in. Jordan called, hey, boss, you got the wrong car. I said, nah. He said, Ms. Davis. A minute later, dispatch call. He's speaker. You picked up the wrong. You picked up the wrong. You picked up the wrong passenger.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Passenger? Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Of such and such. I was like. He said, Ms. Davis. No, there was another Ms. Davis. There was two Ms. Davis.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Wow.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho. How about this mofo Pull side the road and put me right out on Santa Monica, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Get out of here.

[Joe Johnson]

And you got out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't got no choice but why.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Didn'T take you back to the hotel?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, I was. I was close to where I was, closer to where I needed to be than driving me all the way back to the hotel.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, so you walk where you had to go?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, Shelley called me another Uber.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Wow.

[Joe Johnson]

He would have had to drop me off. Man, you got me. You got me messed up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, man, they got, they got recorded in there. And plus, I'm on probation right now, so I had to be on my best behavior.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, okay, I got you, I got you. I got you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because that. I was like, boy, I was like. I said, man, just. Just drop me off right here. He's like, I can't take. He said, I can't take you no further. I was like, bro, we. I looked at the GPS. Oh, we like, it's gonna take him 20 minutes to get back to the hotel. It's gonna take him seven minutes to drop me off. I say, just tell her to get. Get into the. The Uber. That was for me, right? She didn't want to do that.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, so she. Oh, she wanted him. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So, man, put inside the road.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, hey, Unc, you really ain't got no apps on your phone, do you?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, no, no, Uber.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Shelly or Jordan. Like Jordan. Jordan have a. Jordan have a timer. And he knows, like, after a certain time we about to wrap up, he'll call the Uber. They give us 15 minutes to get, you know, get out there. And so once we take the picture, I mean the thing. But I, I don't. Oh, let me tell you, my other. Look at Jordan laughing. He just laughing. So, you know, in room dining thing, they don't let you call down and order room service no more. You got to scan the qr, the QR code with your phone. Yeah, so I, you know, hey, I said, man, Ocho say, I don't know how to do nothing, man. I don't book me a two night stay at the hotel.

That was joy laughing. Shelly called me. Say.

Why you booked two nights at the hotel? I said, I ain't booked no two nights at the hotel. I ordered breakfast. She said, you ain't order no damn breakfast. You got two. You got a king suite for two nights next week.

Oh, yo, I thought I ordered me an egg sandwich and some orange juice. Hell no.

Now you see why I don't be fooling with the maps? Because all my money, I've been up, I've been spent $200,000 on a flower arrangement. That's why I don't fool with it.

[Joe Johnson]

You got to be a little tech savvy, man. We got to send you to a class, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, that's what Jordan here for. Jordan. Jordan went to class.

[Odoo Representative]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, I was like, man, this joker put. Oh, yo, this joker put me out this joke. Pulled right to the side. I said, man, oh, yo, he stopped in the middle of the road. I said, my man, can you pull like, right over to the side, man? Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

That's. That's not the uncle I know. Because the uncle I know won't get down no car.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now, you know. Hey, yeah. Hey, hey. You know, if I wasn't no pro, I'm on probation. Don't joke. I got to make it 26. I'm trying to make it to 26 with no mishaps.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, but you can't let people just take advantage of you like that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's all right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I get on that. Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, the devil working. Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He tried to get. Remember, Ocho, I said patience. What? What? I said patience. I need patience. He ain't gonna give it to you. He gonna put you in situations that require it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hello? Hello?

[Joe Johnson]

Are you talking? Talking now?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, okay, I'm gonna get out. I'm gonna get out now. But you sure lucky caught me in 24.

I'd got out, but not after I tore your ass up.

Man. I said, man, I had. I had a day today. Ooh. I got put out of Uber and I'd order two night, and all I tried to get was a breakfast sandwich and some orange juice, and I got a two night stay at the hotel.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, did they charge you for canceling your two nights day?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Cause, yeah, I booked it for next week.

[Joe Johnson]

They gonna. They need that cancellation fee. They need that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They ain't get no cancellation fee. As many nights as I stay here in Jordan, I stay here, man. We was. Sometimes we were staying here like four, five nights in a row.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah. But I said, boy, I had me a day today. I said, damn. Honestly.

[Joe Johnson]

Honestly.

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