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Unnamed Analyst
I just. I smell trouble for the Lakers, man. You know, we've seen the Minnesota Timberwolves being in this position, knocking off teams, whether it was Phoenix, whether it was Denver. So Ant man, them, he known to going in, he known to go into somebody else, building, you know, steal some wins, play very effective basketball. Even though he didn't shoot well, I thought he put so much pressure on the rim and created so many other opportunities for other guys, but, man, if you got nas, Reed and McDaniels gonna shoot like that from three, you in trouble. You gonna be in trouble. It's gonna be hard for you to win that game. So, you know, those guys were very efficient tonight, and they just outplayed the Lakers. The Lakers look lethargic. They just didn't. Outside of Luka having that great first run, outside of that, they just look. They look like they were stuck in mud a little bit to me.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, they didn't match. They need to understand this is the playoffs. Yeah. This ain't no regular season. It's different. And they didn't. They didn't come out. You know, they. They came out really good in the first quarter. But that second quarter, and we know the Lakers after watching them all year, Joe, they're going to have a quarter where they take it completely off. Yeah. Now, it's normally the third or the fourth quarter. It's not normally the first half. It's normally they come out at the half or they, you know, the fourth quarter. But we saw this turn of events in the second quarter where they ended up giving up at 38 points. After giving up 21 in the first quarter. They gave up 38, and then they gave up another 35 in the third quarter. So they gave up, what is that, 73 points in two quarters. Ocho watching this game. What, What, what what was your takeaway?
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Unnamed Analyst
Listen, first off, first off, you know the Lakers didn't come out and match the Wolves. Intensity, huh? The intention. Listen, on, on both sides of the court, there was no intensity. They didn't play defense very well. Nobody played well in the Lakers offensively outside of, outside of Luca. So if LeBron is off, then. If LeBron is off and Luca's own, somebody else has to come. It got to be ar. You got to be Rui. You got to be. Somebody has to have some points collectively as a group. If your starters aren't fine, on all cylinders, Ant man doesn't have a have a good game. Hell, Reed comes off the bench and he cutting the fool McDaniel. McDaniel's playing well. It was just a b. It was. It was a bad. It was a bad game all around for the Lakers in general. And normally when you have home court advantage and you plan at home, you don't want the home, the weight team to steal a game at home. You don't want to happen. So they put them. They already put themselves out in a hole. So Monday night, like you said, they got to have it. If they lose Monday night's game, they're going to be in a heap of trouble.
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Hey, hey, hey. You see, you see it? It's hard to play Jackson Hayes when you switching all the pick and rolls and you ain't giving up them lob threats. Yeah, pressure on the rim it is.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And plus the thing, I think they're switching. They're too easy switching. I mean, soon as the guy starts to show, they go ahead and switch it. No, bro. Fight. Fight on the top. Don't give up. You copping out, you missing out on us. Don't do that. Hey, Fanny Smith. Don't know. Don't pass that off to Gabe Vincent. Don't pass that off to Luka. No fight through that. Them little soft picks they send Joe, come on, bro, you got to go harder than that now. Cause it's easy. Oh, you just back away. You go ahead and take it. That's what Ed want. And you see, they keep calling. They keep calling Luka. Nah, we want Luka. And they're going to keep. No matter who he darting. They try to put him on the weekend, man. They put. They putting. What's old boy name? Rudy Gobert. They bringing Rudy Gobert damn near the damn half court to set a pick because they're like, hey, we want whoever Lucas Garden, you're going to be the pick guy, right? Or Gabe Benson because he's Gabe is what, 6 foot tall? If we were lucky. And so. But they got to fight. I think they just got to fight hard on the pick. Now look, if a team gonna be knocking down those threes like they knocking down, it's gonna be tough. It's gonna be tough. It's not like the Lakers shot particularly bad from the three. But when you let a team shoot 20, make 21 of them and they shoot 50%, they shoot 50% from the floor. When you got your work cut out, they couldn't get no cut out.
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Unnamed Analyst
Couldn't get no stops, couldn't get nothing.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, you're right. You're absolutely right. They got it.
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Unnamed Analyst
So if you keep taking the ball out the net, man, it's gonna, you know, slow our offense down a little more. You know, they already a little small, so, you know, through movement is great for them. So you gotta use misses is like fast breaks. And they've been great at that. But hey, man, Timberwolves weren't missing tonight. Them boys locked in. I liked it.
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But the only, the only. Hey, Joe and Unc. The only way the Lakers were going if I had any chance or have any chance of getting back in this game, is they were going to have to steal points in transition. That was the only way. And they weren't able to do that.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, they just have to get some stops. And like Joe said, when you taking the ball out of the net, they couldn't get any stops. Yeah, because there was a couple of times they forced to miss. But you don't realize you've done nothing until you gain possession of the basketball. So even if you force a miss, if you don't gain possession of the basketball, you've done absolutely nothing.
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Unnamed Analyst
Right?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And they wind them down a couple of times late in the clock and they hit some threes. Joe, you know, it's demoralizing, especially in your building. If you wind them down and you got them shooting the ball with 12 seconds on the clock and they splashing threes or they're making out steps. I mean, you like damn well what I gotta do, bro. I bet. Come on. Now, we don't wind them down. We took em up, grind them to the nub and they ain't making shots like that. They got a big boost. Divincenzo hit that shot at right there. Yeah, that was a big boost going in for him because at that point they were down eight. Now they go down 11 and to start the third, they go on like a 10, two run. So now all of a sudden, you know eight part what could have been an eight point game is not 21 point lead. But they got to do a better, they've got to do a better job of. Look, look at this. Rui -26. LeBron -22. Jackson Hayes only played eight minutes. He was -11. Luka -12. Arkansas -25. Dorian Finney Smith -11. Vanderbilt -2. You ain't winning like that. You can't.
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Unnamed Analyst
So now, so now if you Minnesota now you try to be a little greedy.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah. I'm trying to get sweet snakes. I'm trying to take both of them.
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Unnamed Analyst
You didn't came in, you got, you done did what you want to do. You just want to get one win. Got the first one. Why not be a little greedy? Why not go in second one?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And you know this Joe. Normally that first one is the easiest to win because especially if the team has been laying off, you got to realize the Lakers have been off for eight days. Yeah, yeah. And so you know, and they didn't play, they didn't play. LeBron didn't play the last game in Portland. So they've been off a little longer. But normally the first game is the one that you try to steal on the road. Once we get that, we say well hey we here, hell we might as well get another one. You know what I'm saying? Don't trade you might as well just try to go and get that second one while we here. And guess what? We won't even have to bring our ass back to LA if we go ahead and handle our business in Minnesota.
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Unnamed Analyst
So the next game in LA too.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah. Yes, yes. Monday night. But they gonna be draftkings no longer have uh. Let's see what it says. Okay. The Timberwolves knocked out a playoff record 21 threes. DraftKings no longer have the Lakers as the series favorite. Now Minnesota is minus 135. The Lakers are 115 plus 115. Poor performance with Magic has criticism. Coach JJ Redick did a great job all season but he didn't do a good job for Game 1. The Lakers stood around on offense, played too much one on one basketball. It didn't make any necessary adjustments. Tonight was one of the Lakers worst performance this season. They were flat, had no energy and they played like it was a regular season game. All the things that we just spoke about Magic just highlighted so clearly they know you and I and we know what we're talking about here on Nightcap. Stephen A. I don't know why you had to tag me. This ain't got nothing to do with you, man. Someone just text me a message to send directly to as ShadowSharp. AAA NWA I don't care what Shannon has to say. Lakers ain't winning in five.
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Unnamed Analyst
Hey, hold on. Wait, wait a minute. Now this, this is a good question, and I'm going to pose this question to you. Now, you had Lakers in five. Now, based on what you saw tonight, how confident are you in the Lakers winning this series? Still?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Look, Lakers and five rolls off the tongue. It don't sound as good. Lakers in seven. It don't sound as good. Lakers in six. But I feel very confident. If it's six, seven, it don't matter. Look at them.
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Unnamed Analyst
Five.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But what Magic said, if you watch them stand, they were standing around Minnesota getting offensive rebounds. Kick out three. They, they put them in the pick and roll. They, like I said, they just got to do a better job of fighting over that pick. You just can't give up that easy. That's what they. If you do that, they're going to keep doing it. Fight over that Fennie, fight over that Vanderbilt. You've got to make it a little bit more difficult on the offensive, on the defense, on the offensive end, so Minnesota has the ball defensively. Lakers, you're going to have to be a little tougher than what you showed tonight. This is not nearly good enough. LeBron, this notion, as you get older, it gets harder and harder to get in the rhythm. You see, he had no points in the first quarter, had 10 in the second, gave you three or four in the. You can't do that because I get it, you want to let Luka and Luka can get going, but in the process, but at what cost? You get Luka going and now AR and Bron don't have no rhythm. Now, they didn't. Look, if you just look at the numbers, they got 72, which is about what they would average in the regular season. But when you don't get any production from your bench. Remember we talked about this, Joe? Finnie Smith needs to give us eight to 10 off the bench. Gabe Benson needs to give us six to eight off the bench. Vanderbilt gives us four to six off the bench. Rui, you can't play 30 minutes and give us nine points. We need a little more. We need a little better than that. And so look, I'm not overly concerned, but hey, I'm like, okay, Now I'm sure JJ's like, look, we didn't play nowhere close to our best. Now what you've done is giving them confidence that they can come in and beat our ass on our court, in our building. Let's not play around. Let's go ahead and get game two because you don't want to be in a situation, Joe, a bad pass or missed call, now you're down 02 going back to Minnesota, and you got to get two to make this thing a series. So look, the Lakers didn't play well. 47 points in the second half. They got 30 in the third. They got 17 points and they got it. They cut it down like one point. It was 27. They got it all the way down to 12, Joe. But they couldn't sustain it.
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Unnamed Analyst
The Timberwolves just seemed more desperate, you know what I mean? It was like they understood the moment and they understood, you know, the now, like, all right, we gotta get one. And they gained the momentum. Like I said, after Luka went on that run in the first quarter, that was it. It was pretty much lethargic the whole game, bro. It's like they were just out there floating and, you know, Minnesota just played with more grit, grind. And they, they was effective.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But that's the thing. But that's the thing, though. Joe is like, yeah, if you look at, if you look at the Lakers, Luke is always going. Luka's going to have a big quarter in the first half. It's either going to be the first quarter or it's going to be the second quarter. But he's going to get off one of those. Yeah. And that's why it's no surprise when you look up, he's got 20 points at the half because normally he's going to go somewhere between 10 to 14 in a quarter, right? Yeah. Now, if it's the first quarter, okay, he's going to get like a four to five minute break to start the second. And it gets him out of a rhythm hell. Hey, he get it going like that, Joe, I'll be tempted. Hey, go back in there for the first two to three minutes. I get you. I get you a rest. I get you a rest a little later because he cooled down substantially in the second quarter. He called for again. But at that point in time when you down like they, like they were down, right. And Lucas going bucket for bucket with Ant or McDaniels or Naz Reed, you're really not doing anything.
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Unnamed Analyst
Yeah, I mean, LeBron will have to take over. He's going to have to take over next game and take over early. Most of the time he'll. He'll he'll relax, let Liquid get his layer, get his. Let everybody do their thing, and then pick up. And most of the time, LeBron will be efficient when he does decide to turn. Turn it on. But he got to do it early. He got to start off early. Let's say. How about we not let Luka get in rhythm and LeBron gets in rhythm first and then allows everybody to catch fire at some point. Then. Then at that point, I think it make a little. It'll make a little easier. As opposed to you already being behind and you're forcing the missing shots, as opposed to having to be efficient and you're already down 12, 13. Hell, at one point, when the Laker was down, what's the most?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The Laker was down, like 27, I think.
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Unnamed Analyst
27. Almost 30 damn points.
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Yeah, it was bad, man. It was bad. They got to pick it up, man. They got to find a way. Like I say, I think this Timberwolves team is very scary, as we all know, because they. They were just in the Western Conference finals last year. I know they trade. I know Cat. I know Cat was there. But you know Julius Randle tonight, you know, he was effective, man. He played with grit. He played with toughness. And then, you know those guys coming off the bench, the McDaniels, the Reeds. They won you a game. Yes, they won you a game. So now, like I say, man, hey, I'm looking forward to Minnesota trying to be greedy in game, too.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And plus, the thing is, Joe, I. I've noticed this, and I've noticed because I. I didn't notice until he got to the Lakers because that was the only time that we've ever seen LeBron be injured. Yeah. But when he has these groin injuries, he's not the same when he gets back because he doesn't. He's hesitant because he knows in Ocho being. And I don't know if you've ever had a groin or a hamstring injury. You know, suddenness is the worst thing to happen. Yeah. If you watch LeBron, no rebounds, guys. Right there, he's just like. If the ball don't come directly to him, he ain't making no sudden move to go get it. Yeah. Yeah. And it takes him a while, so he's really got to gather. If you go back and look at that chase down block he had to gather. Yeah, got it. They did a great job of tracking. But if you watch it. And I've noticed this, is that he's not going to do anything sudden because he doesn't want to. He had that groin injury like. Like what? The last, the game before that, maybe it was the Rockets game. He felt that little twinge and he came out. And so.
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Unnamed Analyst
Hey, that day, I understand what you're saying because he don't, it's like he don't rebound outside his area like he normally do, you know. Starting to break with that now. He just kind of, like I say that first quarter, man, it just kind of seemed like he was just kind of floating me, you know what I mean? Yes, yes, I know Luca was hot, but it's hard, man. Basketball is a rhythm game, you know what I mean? Bro Is a rhythm player as well. And when he gets, when he gets it going, we know it's hard. We know it's hard to stop him. But him sitting back waiting until, you know, second quarter for him to scratch like that, that's going to be hard.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We get older, light them old cars and new car crank rattled up that old one. You got to, you got to pat that thing a couple of times, Joe.
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Unnamed Analyst
Yeah, you gotta pump them brakes on.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That Chevy and then you let it warm up. You don't just take off with an older car. You let that thing, you let that thing get going and now you good to go. So LeBron, it takes him a little bit while. And I think the thing is that you see now he's getting there a little bit earlier. He's getting those shots up. He's probably staying on the court a little longer because he knows, hey, LeBron used to go out there get him. Little 10, 15 minute workout. He good to go. He probably out there 25, 30 minutes now.
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Unnamed Analyst
Yeah, yeah, it take a minute. Hey, you gotta, gotta warm them old bones up, man. Get em once you get me on the freeway, baby. I'm ready though. I'm ready.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So the Lakers lose. Minnesota go in take game one in convincing fashion. 117 95. The Lakers need a bounce back game in the worst way on Monday night.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The Knicks beat the Pistons 123 to 112. Jalen Brunson 34 points. Cameron Payne had 11 of his 14 points in the fourth quarter as the Knicks stunned the Pistons with a 210 run in the fourth. Carl Anthony Towns, 23 points, 11 rebounds in his first game and first playoff game with the Knicks. And OG Anunoby also added 23 for the number three seed, the Knicks. Hey, I was like, man, yeah, they right there. I said, detroit, right there, man. I went upstairs, came back down. Hey, you know what I said? I thought my TV glitched. So I cut the TV off and cut it back on. Cause I said, ain't no damn way in hell. You down 8 and now all of a sudden you up 13. I said, ain't no way. So I thought my TV glitched. So I cut the TV off, cut it back on, it start spinning. I'm like, come on, TV cut on, TV spinning. Cause I don't know what it is, the Internet out here, man. But they did it. They went on a 210 run and broke the game open. This game had Cade Cunningham played better. You know, they got some points late in the ball game, but Cade gotta be better than this. You can't have 21 points on 21 shots.
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Unnamed Analyst
Right, right.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's not good enough. That's not good enough.
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Unnamed Analyst
He wasn't that efficient tonight, but, you know, he dished the ball out. Well, I don't know how they lost that game, man. I'm just like you, uncle. I'm. I'm looking at the game, I swear I turned my head, it was like, hold on. But, man, this is. Detroit's a scary team. I thought they played a great game, man. Up until that last quarter, I don't know, they just kind of collapsed.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I mean, like the last nine minutes. The last nine minutes, they were good. They started the fourth good, but from that, from like that, like a five minute stretch, they did nothing. But when you get OG give you 23. Cat gave you 23. Jalen Brunson gave you 34. Josh Hart, who's the utility Swiss Army Knife. He's a spoon, he's a fork, he's a knife. He's a pair of scissors. He's a screwdriver. He's a monkey wrench. He can do it all. He gave you 13, six assists, seven rebounds. And then you get campaign, who scored 11 points in the fourth to go along with 14. That was really hard. Malik Beasley does what he does. Came in, gave you 20 points on six or 12 from the three point line. But they need some of their big guns. They need Cade Cunningham to be a little bit more efficient.
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Unnamed Analyst
Yeah, I think Cade will be better. He'll be better in game, too. But I know Detroit, they still kind of got to feel good about this. Even though they lost. Like I said, they controlled the game. And pretty much the entirety of the whole game up until about the last eight, nine minutes, they just kind of had a collapse. But, man, I like this Detroit team. They play hard.
- [30:29]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They're scrappy.
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Unnamed Analyst
Oh, man, they're really scrappy.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ball club. JB Biggerstaff got him playing. He got him believing. They believe. They believe they belong. I mean, they're not surprised that they're here. They believe it and they play. Like I said, I agree with you. I think Cade will be more efficient. Tobias Harris had one of his better playoff games. Tim Hardaway Jr. Played really well. Thompson needs to be a little bit better. Look. Yeah. I mean, yeah, you got to be better than that. Listen, you got to be better than that.
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Unnamed Analyst
We talk about Detroit and what they did, how they played. Well, the Knicks won the game.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They did.
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Unnamed Analyst
Game. And the reason they won the game towards the end. We ain't talking about Jalen Brunson yet. He had 34, eight. And I'm gonna call him the conductor. I'm gonna call him the conductor. Cause the way he orchestrated at the end of that game and crucial time and made those plays.
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Yeah.
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Who's to say they don't play like that the rest of the series? What if Detroit don't win no more goddamn games because of what Jalen Brunson was able to do? Hell, goddamn. Carl Anthony Towns out there, but 23, 11 and five. Oh, gee, with his 23 and it's seven.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Unnamed Analyst
Who to say they don't catch heat and that momentum carries into the next game and the game after that. Despite, you know, Cade not having the game, he should have scoring 20 on 21. Obviously that's bad. He might come back and have, you know, a better game the next game. But hell, Jalen ain't going nowhere. Carl Anthony Towns ain't going nowhere.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Brunson. The thing that makes Brunson is that the big moments, he's at his absolute best.
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Unnamed Analyst
Shows up every time in clutch time.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They'Re going to put the ball in his hands. And sometimes they might go pick and roll with him and Cat, but they normally let him operate and they trust him. Okay, whatever you do, we'll live with whatever decision that you make. And in clutch situations, he's wanted, I defy you, to find five better players in the NBA currently, that's better than him. In clutch situations, the last five minutes, the game within five he's sensational. Yeah. And he will. He. And that was on display again, the and 1. He's great at drawing. He's great at drawing contact. Joe, getting to the foul line. He was 8 or 10 tonight night from the free throw line, 2 or 5 from 3. 34 big points. But like you said, it was the others. OG Cat. Josh Hart was sensational in campaign. Gave you 11 in the fourth, 14 off the bench. It's going to be tough. It's gonna be. Look, Detroit kicking themselves because they know they supposed to have stole this game. But like you said, Ocho, Cat and Brunson and Campaign, they like, nah, y'all ain't gonna get this one.
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Unnamed Analyst
Nah, nah, it's. Hey, this the playoffs, though. It's a fine line between winning and losing. Ocho, you can be feeling confident, like you gonna run through the series.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Unnamed Analyst
And then you can. Hey, it can backfire to where you be like, man, we gotta get a game. You know what I mean? Yeah. I think Detroit, like I said, I think they feel good about it, obviously. Yep. New York could go on. They could go on. They could sweep them. But I like this matchup, Detroit and the Knicks, man. And I'm looking forward to, you know, fireworks throughout this playoffs.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And this is not like Detroit. They gave up 40 points in the fourth. Yeah, 40. I mean, they got. Think about it. They gave up 27, 30, 26, and then you go 40. That's what I mean. And JB probably said, look, guys, we look cleaner. Hey, we gave up 40. Let's be a little better on the defensive end. Hey, we're right there. This is a T. Hey, in their building, we know how MSG gets. The rocket guys make a few shots, but we were right there. Clean this up. I agree with you, Joe. I feel if I'm Detroit, I feel good. I feel good. Look, I want to win. Now, don't get me wrong. I'm like, hey, damn, we lost. But I feel good that, hey, nine minutes to go in the game. We had an eight point lead. It wasn't like we were down eight. We had an eight point lead. So there's some things that we can do that I feel comfortable that we can do to get this win, get game, get split this and go back home for two. The Nuggets beat the Clippers at OT.112.112.110 in regulation. Westbrook hit a huge three at the end of regulation, made key several defensive plays. According to ESPN research, Clippers gave Westbrook an average of separation of almost 10ft when he was taking three pointers in game one. That's the most separation he's gotten on three point shots in a playoff game. When taking at least five attempts since 2013-14, Russ finished with 15 points on 5 of 17 shooting. You just have to live. He's a guy that you're gonna say, dan, come on. Fuck on, Russ. What are you doing? But the one thing you'll never ever question about Russell Westbrook is his effort ever. He gonna give you every freaking thing.
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Unnamed Analyst
He got full speed.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He gonna make some play. Like the play that. Like the Yoki triple double where he blows the smokes, the layup. Now The Nuggets got 18 seconds to get a shot, and they don't even get a shot off. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Russ. That's not like Russ. Cause Russ had a wide open 3. He passed it up, got caught between like, damn, what the hell I do? And the clock run out. They're like, damn, Russ. But then he comes in, blocks the shots, challenges, gets 2%, gets a key steal, forces the ball off of James Harden. Russell won him this game.
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Unnamed Analyst
Yeah.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Cause he got a couple. He got like two offensive rebounds. Aaron Gordon got two key offensive rebounds. And he hit that big three to put them up too. Joe, what did you like about what you saw? Because the Nuggets were down by as much as what, 13, 15.
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Unnamed Analyst
Yeah.
- [36:29]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Clippers battled way back into the ball game, and they ended up winning a very close ball game.
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Unnamed Analyst
The Clippers was controlling the game pretty much the entirety. You know, I do think, you know, Russ, energy and effort is definitely. It definitely helps the Nuggets, man. And I'm sure, you know, he enjoys this win considering this again as one of his former teams, you know what I mean? So I'm sure he's happy about that. But this is going to be a long series as well. I thought the Clippers was right there to really pull away. You look at Kawhi, he's been. He was playing. He's been playing pretty good ball. James Harden was playing great ball. Like, they look good, man.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They did. I think James Harden getting in foul trouble. I think Zubaz kind of getting a little foul trouble. That kind of took James out of his game. But James was sensational. 11 of 22, 4 of 9 from the 3. Perfect. From the free throw line, 32 points, 11 assists, 6 rebounds. Zoo 21, 13. Kawhi 22 and 6. Kawhi really had it going early. He did. He and James, they had it going early. He couldn't miss. You look good too, the first quarter. Then I think he ended up scoring like only two points in the second quarter. Yeah, but Aaron Gordon got going or late. Jokic is Jokic. Jokic is going to be Jokic. I don't look and they say nobody defends him better than Zubas. And then you look up and you're like, hold on. Damn. The man had 29, 12 and nine. And that, that guy defends him the best. Well. Who. I hate to see the guy that defends him the worst.
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Unnamed Analyst
Played a good game too though. Zupac had 21 and 13.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Like that's what. But see, if you play against Yolk, you got to go at him on the defensive end.
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Unnamed Analyst
Yeah, you gotta make him work on both ends.
- [38:09]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And the thing. But you notice late in that ballgame, that fourth quarter, he started challenging more stuff where in the early in the ball game he wasn't challenging. And you see Harden laying the ball up, Kawhi laying the ball up. Guys were laying the ball up. Now all of a sudden, look, bro, you almost seven foot tall. Just go vertical. Just make him go up over you. Don't give him no layup line. Yeah. You know what you thought, what you thought about watching the Nuggets?
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Unnamed Analyst
I mean the game was good. The Nuggets played really well. Obviously I look at Harden, right? Harden really, they control the game most of the game outside of towards the end, but hell, Harden had 32 and 11. But the Clippers turned the ball over 20 damn times, huh?
- [38:47]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yep.
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Unnamed Analyst
When it came to crunch time. And then you got Russell being as, as intense as he always is, you know, as far as playing defense and with Joker playing the way he's playing. When it came to crunch time because of the turnovers, then the Nuggets was back in the game. They were able to get back in the game because of the turnovers game. I mean, it was good. This is one that's going to go to a seven game series. And I think me based on what I'm watching and the amount of knowledge that I've gained to this point, the turnovers are going to be key on who wins this series. Ask me how I know how you know. Because if they didn't turn the ball over 20 times a night, the Clippers win this game.
- [39:32]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But I think you got to give, I think you. Like you said last time we was talking about what Detroit didn't do. Let's talk about what the Knicks did do. Well, in this situation, you talk about what they did, what happened they weren't out there by themselves now, so somebody forced them into those turnovers. You see, all of a sudden, Russ playing pass lanes, all of a sudden they started getting up into people all of a sudden. It's not a. It's not a layup line. Look at Aaron Gordon. He's got. Go ahead, Joe.
- [39:57]
Unnamed Analyst
I say that altitude kick in and.
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You think, you think that's real, man?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, it's real.
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Unnamed Analyst
Yeah. Yeah. It's tough, Ocho. It's tough.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Why you think so? Why do you think fighters go to Arizona? Why do you think they go to Big Bear? Why do you think they go to. Why the U.S. olympic Training Facility in Colorado Springs if it didn't make a difference?
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Unnamed Analyst
Right. You know, it's funny, I, I always hear. I always hear it all the time. Obviously, I was able to play. I was able to play in Denver twice, obviously.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And you lost both times. I did.
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Unnamed Analyst
I listen, I don't remember whether, whether the wins or losses, but as far as far as my winning, my conditioning, it. I'm not trying to be rude, I'm not trying to be disrespectful. I'm just saying it, it didn't affect me on the field as far as breathing is concerned. And obviously during a time like that, it was pressure on me to be able to perform because, you know, I'm going to get 24.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Unnamed Analyst
Going against the hall of Fame and Chan Bailey at the time. But I always, I always get a thing about the, about, you know, it being difficult to breathe, you know, when playing Endeavor in. In a high altitude. But I'm just.
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Yeah.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It's less oxygen in there.
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Unnamed Analyst
I'm just curious what y'all thought.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ball travels farther. That's. There's a reason why people love kicking. They love punting. Right. They love hitting a baseball in Coors Field. Yeah. The air is thinner altitude training. That's why, you know, like I said, if you go look at endurance athletes, they always train at altitude.
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Unnamed Analyst
Right.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They go to Flagstaff, they go to Colorado Springs, they're in New Mexico. And so that's what a lot. And you know, boxers, they go to Big Bear. Yeah. They go to. They go to places where, you know, mammoth and where you have to like, takes you a little bit. And sometimes. Don't you remember it came out, they had those masks on. Remember the breathing mask.
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T-Mobile Advertiser
Yeah.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That you have on?
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Unnamed Analyst
Yeah, I remember those. Yeah. I remember Beast Mode. Used to wear one of them.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But you. So, so is this a seven game series, Joe? This is seven game series.
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Unnamed Analyst
Yeah, I think. I think it'll be a seven game series. I think, you know, obviously the Clippers, you know, they came to Denver to get one. They probably feel good about this. I just think they ran out of gas in their second half, but, you know, I'm sure they're looking forward to game, too. But, you know, until you went on the other team's home floor ark, it ain't a series yet. So. Yeah, this one. This one probably gonna go. It's probably gonna go seven.
- [42:17]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Russ said the dynamic roller with Zubots, great cutters, guys catch lives. My job is to be able to be low man and find ways to. Excuse my language. F ish up. He did a great job because, you know, like I said, Russ is still. He still has that quickness. He's not the finisher that he once was. He's not as ath, but he's still. I mean, hey, he still can get it done. He's still explosive, too, and spurts, you know, he can still. He can still do it. And like you said, Ocho, hold on. What do you.
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Unnamed Analyst
He had.
- [42:47]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He had two steals. Key steal. But even though he didn't steal the ball, he forced some costly turnovers.
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Unnamed Analyst
Yeah, you know what? I'm happy for Russ, too, having a game like he did today where him being intense like he always is is the reason why they won, because just not too long ago, you know, he was one of the reasons why they lost based on his decision making. So this was good for him and gave him the confidence he needs to go into the rest of the series being aggressive like he always is, and doing what's best for not only him, but his team as well.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And you have Russ on your team at this point. You just gotta accept what comes along with Russ. He's gonna make some plays. And you were like, that was unbelievable, son. That's how we win. And then he gonna have some play like you like. Lord have mercy. I sure wish I show. I sure wish I went to chapel this morning because you gotta deal with it.
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Unnamed Analyst
You gotta deal. You gotta take the good with the bad.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, you got to. It's really that. It's really. Ocho. It's really that simple. Because he's gonna make plays you like. Only he could have made that play. Right? And then on the other side, you gonna say, only he could have amped it up. Ain't nobody else could have amped it up, but he did. So you've gotta take. It's kind of like Luka, people say, man, I wish Luka stopped flopping. I wish Luka stopped crying. I wish Luka. You got to accept it. Yeah. He's not going to stop. He can't stop, right?
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Unnamed Analyst
That's part of him.
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He can't.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He can't. Every time if he doesn't make a shot, he gonna look at the ref like he looked at me. You know, he ate a pasta for pregame so that you ain't gonna call no foul on. So you just. Joe, you just live with it. And that's where I am on that right there. So, Russ, you gotta live with it. Cause he's gonna make some spectacular plays, but he's gonna make some plays that leave you scratching your head.
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Unnamed Analyst
But you know the good thing about it, though? The good outweigh the bad. With Russ, the good plays outweigh the bad most time. The bad ones come at opportune times when they shouldn't happen. And that might be the only issue.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes. Yes. The Indiana Pacers blow out the Milwaukee Bucks by the score of 117 to 98. Man, after finishing with the third worst defensive rating in the NBA, the Phoenix Suns Friday this. Well, no, that ain't what we want. What you got up here? Torian Prince got some cardio in. Kyle Kuzma. He was on his road bike too. He got cardio in. Oh, hey, they ain't got double Cardio. Torian Prince, 20 minutes, zero points. Kyle Kuzma, 22 minutes, zero. But here the thing was so amazing about Kuzma. Kuzma had zero points, zero rebounds, zero assists, zero steals, zero blocks and two personal fouls.
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Unnamed Analyst
Man, that's scratch.
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Hey, see this, this, this, this is one. This is one I wasn't able to see. I didn't get to see this one on, you know, I was at my track knee watching my baby running.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Unnamed Analyst
So this is the one game I didn't get to see because when this game was going on, this is exactly when, you know, my baby was running, running the 400 and the 4 by 4.
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Man, this was everything I expected. Godly numbers from Greek Free.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Unnamed Analyst
Just didn't get no help, man. He didn't get no help.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No.
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Unnamed Analyst
Indiana, they're gritty team as well. They got a bunch of guys who can score. The basketball can do a multitude of things on the court to affect the game. And if you got two guys in your starting lineup who giving you donuts, you got, man, you ain't got a chance of winning in the league like this.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Boy, the last time I seen this many donuts I was at Krispy Kremes and Dunkin Robinson. I mean, Duncan Dunkin Donuts. This man had, think about it. He was 05 from field, he was 02 from the three point line. He was on two from the free throw line. Zero rebounds, zero assists, zero steals, zero blocks and zero points. So you only got like nine stats that you can get, you get, get, get something on one end. None of the 10 demand had a zero. I don't know, Joe. I don't know if I've ever seen that in all my life. Now, like I said, I was in 4H. I grew up on a farm, I went to the county fair, and I ain't never seen no issue like this. Chad, I don't think y'all understand this. This man was zero or five from the field, or two from the three point line, or two from the free throw line. He had zero assists, zero rebounds, zero steals, zero blocks, zero points. How? I mean, Yanis, like, hey, all, I tell you what, this is what I would need y'all to do. Kyle Kuzman, give me eight. Torian Prince, give me eight. I'll do the rest until Dame gets back in game three. They're like, no, no, no, no, no, no. We're gonna leave you out there by yourself. I mean, they got, they got y'all. This outside, they got y'all. They don't close the door on y'all in there to beat the hell out of Giannis, and they just close the door. Man helping, but nothing does.
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Unnamed Analyst
Kyle, Kuzma and Prince had the green light to shoot when they want to. Even if you, even if you miss it like that, do they have the green light? You know how shoot or shoot even you're missing. You keep on shooting, at some point it's going to fall. Are they allowed to do that?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, hell no.
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Unnamed Analyst
See, See, the playoffs and it's the playoffs. If you got Greek putting all the pressure on the rim and you might ask, like, Tori and Prince was the top three point shooter this year, it wasn't like he was no slouch. He probably was top five in three point shooting this year. So I think the main thing is you don't have Dame out there, another guy who can put pressure and get his own, make plays for others around him. So now everybody's watching Greek free. He probably the only one really out there who can go out there and get the bucket.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Unnamed Analyst
So that's why it looks the way it looks.
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Soon as I asked you, uncle, first thing you said was no. So if Kyle USMA doesn't have the green light to shoot at will. Being at some.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Why the hell I won't give him the green light? He got a learner's permit. He ain't even got a real driver's license.
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Unnamed Analyst
Hold on.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What the hell I'm gonna let him drive for, huh?
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Unnamed Analyst
If Dame ain't playing, you gotta get them points from somewhere. Them points that Dame would have, they got to come from somebody.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The man played two pocho. The man got cardio. The man's on the stationary body.
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Unnamed Analyst
No, that's what I'm saying. He was 0 for 5. He was 0 for in nine of the categories, right?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
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Unnamed Analyst
Maybe he doesn't have the green light to continue to shoot at will, even though at some point you gotta make him.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's reserved for Steph Curry. That's reserved for a Dame. That's reserved for a Luca. You can't give no guy no Kyle Kuzma no green light to shoot it whenever you want to. Hell, no.
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Unnamed Analyst
Okay. All right.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And you got. Look at off the bench. You got green gave you 15. Kevin Porter Jr. Gave you 12. Garrett Trent Jr. Gave you 14. But you got two guys in your starter. Think about it. Of your five starters, y'all just had 36. The other three had 14. So they got 50 points from their starters.
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Unnamed Analyst
Yeah, you can't.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You're not. You're not winning. Hold on.
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Unnamed Analyst
And that's why. That's why I was a lopside of the game like that. Hold on.
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Hold on, Joe. So listen, I'm.
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I'm.
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I'm not a coach. So as a coach, do you make the adjustments and put the players in that score? 14, 15. And do that. Okay.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No.
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Unnamed Analyst
All right.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, you're.
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Unnamed Analyst
So.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You got to be better. But, look, Ocho.
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Unnamed Analyst
Look.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
There have been times that sometimes that you're like, man, Kuzma, he's figured it out. Yeah. And then there are other times, if I got glasses on, I'm a coach. I put my glass down, say, lord have mercy, I'm rubbing my temples. Because he makes you scratch your head.
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Unnamed Analyst
If, you know, you got players like that that don't have the confidence, you get them going early, you run plays for them on purpose, allow them to get an easy bucket. You get an easy bucket to get you. Get you in rhythm. Hell, when it comes to football, what we do, you drop a ball, what's the first thing the coach do? Find something easy for you to get the ball back in your hands to be your confidence back up.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's what they do to you, the third receiver ain't gonna keep getting balls thrown at his ass. He dropped up.
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Unnamed Analyst
Okay, I see.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You only get you because that's the prop. That's the point. You only gonna get so many opportunities before they put somebody else ass in there.
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Unnamed Analyst
Okay, but I'm only.
- [51:23]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You keep getting thrown to you if you drop a few. Now, that's not reserved for anybody else.
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Unnamed Analyst
I'm just saying that. I'm only saying it because, okay, Dame Dollars not playing. If Dame Dollars is not playing now, whoever else is in there, they got to replace the production in some way. They might not be able to score as much as Dame Dallas is, but we got to find ways to get those individuals who don't score like that and put it in position to get them points in some kind of way.
- [51:51]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Joe, can you explain to Ocho, they put him in position. He laid under the heat because he put goose eggs.
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Unnamed Analyst
Hey, and Indiana, they taking a challenge, man. They got guys who ain't scared to guard Giannis, you know, the Turner, the Pascal Siakam. So, yeah, it's not like they just totally double teaming him. And they making them, you know, they're making him score like shot 14, 3, 3 tonight. Like, you know, they're making him go get it.
- [52:20]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And I can live with that. And he was 8 of 15 from the free throw line. Okay, I live with that. Cause guess what? What I'm not gonna allow him to do. Cause if you go look at his, like his last 10 games, he had like six or seven triple doubles. So he's scoring 30, he's giving you 13, 14 rebounds, and he's making it easy for others to score.
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Unnamed Analyst
So.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Nah, hell no. You go ahead and score. Don't even. Hey, how many you want? You want 36? You want 40? Go ahead. But I guarantee you them other guys ain't gonna hurt us. See, that's the problem.
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Unnamed Analyst
Yeah, but. And that's why, you see, Kyle Kuzma only had five shot attempts in 21 minutes. You know what I mean? Like, they not leaving him giving him no comfortable looks. Giannis, if you gonna beat us, then you gonna have to score 50, my boy, just to keep you all in the game. Yeah, I give you that.
- [53:08]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And see, when you play the. When you play the Nuggets, okay, you gonna let jokic get his 35 and you gonna let him have 17 assists. Is that what you really. That's what you're trying to do? No, get whatever you want. Eat as much as you want. But I ain't gonna let none of the other mofos eat right. They gonna starve. And you see 0095. Cause think about it. Your starters, your bench players played more than your starters. Torian Prince had played 20 minutes. Kyle Kuzma played 22 minutes. Lopez played 21 minutes, and Rollins played 19. Bobby Portis played 25. Derek Trent Jr. Played 27. Kevin Porter Jr. Played 29. Green played 27. So that tells you those guys wasn't getting it done. Hey, Doc said, hey, going in there.
- [54:07]
Unnamed Analyst
I think, hey, when you look at it, Kevin Porter Jr. And Gary Trent, they can kind of go off the bounce a little bit and create, you know, not. But for others as well. That's why when you got Prince in there and he only got one shot attempt in 20 minutes, that's because we not leaving you. You know, we gonna play Giannis man to man, straight up. We ain't giving y'all no death shots and none of that. And we gonna make y'all work for everything y'all get.
- [54:31]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes. And look, and that's what you have to do. Say, hey, guys, I feel bad for you, Miles. I feel bad for you, Siaka. Cause y'all is gonna give you that one. He gonna give you that work. Yeah. Ojo is like, hey, we not finna double and then let everybody. No, no, no, no. Hey, whoever got Ocho today, bro, he gonna hang about 150, 175 on you. But we ain't gonna let nobody else get nothing.
- [54:55]
Unnamed Analyst
You gotta take the challenge. You gotta step up. Step up and take the challenge. That's gonna help us as a team, man. It happens all the time.
- [55:01]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, right. Cause I don't want the mother guy, because y'all is gonna get his. Cause he gonna. If there's a crack, he's gonna slide his slender ass through it. And either he gonna dunk it, lay it up, or you gonna file it. Cause think about it. He had 23 shot attempts. He had 15 free throw attempts.
- [55:20]
Unnamed Analyst
That mean they think about that now.
- [55:23]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
23 shot attempts, 15 free throw attempts.
- [55:27]
Unnamed Analyst
He was working. They making them work, right?
- [55:30]
But you know, that's also exposing everybody else. Weakness I can't create on my own. I can't put the ball on the floor and create space to get my shots off. That's a weakness, right?
- [55:46]
As a team. As a team. As a team, Ocho, that's the makeup of a team. Like, everybody ain't gonna be able to go off the bounce and be able to create and get their own. They gonna be great. They gonna be great off ball defender or they gonna be great off ball players, meaning three and D guys, guys who got great energy on defense, who can cause havoc and knock down the three, you know, on offense. So I think that's kind of the makeup of this team. It's made up of Giannis and Dame to be the creators, you know, and these other guys gotta chip in and give us what you. Give us what you got. Yeah.
- [56:20]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Cause that's the thing. Look. And that's. Look. That's what Dory. He's not a. He's not a guy. They take your joints. Those are guys that. You got three guys that can take you off the ground and when help comes, they kick you make shots. Yeah. You can't. Everybody can't be up. He can take you out the dribble. He can take you out the dribble. He can take you out the. No, you need a certain guys that need to be able to catch and shoot. Right. Everybody has a role. Now you would like to think that when it's time for them to play their role to the utmost, they do it. Yeah.
- [56:50]
Unnamed Analyst
They hit they shots.
- [56:52]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes. Giannis is going to give you what he's going to give you. Look, I done wrote Giannis down. Y'all are going to have about 30, probably gonna have 13 rebounds, probably gonna have five assists.
- [57:03]
Unnamed Analyst
He gonna cover everything.
- [57:04]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So that's what. Hey, I'm a pill today. Oh, y'all done wrote that down in my book. It's kind of like at the end of the day, you wrote down everything that you was going to. Did what you was going to do. Well, I can write down what y'all is going to give me before the game even start. He going to get to 13, 6, probably going to shoot probably 60%. Something like mid 50 to 60%. Okay, that's Giannis. What about Torian Prince? Coach? All right, don't be cracking no jokes now because I don't know what the hell. He gonna kill us. I don't. I do it low. Kyle Kuzma. I saw Kyle Ku. I was ready for Kyle Kuzma to go. I said I had seen enough when he was with the Lakers. Nah, it's time to move on. He only. He only gonna be. He only gonna be so good.
- [57:52]
Unnamed Analyst
He gonna redeem himself. He can't. He can only go up from here.
- [57:56]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [57:58]
Unnamed Analyst
You're not gonna have two games back to back like this.
- [58:00]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That show. Hope not.
- [58:03]
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- [60:45]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, hold on, let me see these zeros. 0 for 5 from the field, 0 from 2 from the 3 over 2 from the free throw line, 0 rebounds, 0 assists, 0 steals, 0 blocks, 0 points. Now, it'd been really bad if he'd had 0 fouls. So you was out there for 22 minutes and you didn't even trip nobody. Oh, Joe, he didn't trip anybody. I mean, you didn't run through those screens. You ain't run through no screens. You ain't do nothing. You done had zero cost a boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That'd be the problem.
- [61:24]
Unnamed Analyst
That's hard, man. That's. Hey, that's a tough stat line. And yes, hopefully he'll use that for fuel, though. Hopefully he'll use it for fuel and come back and game too. And give and give. You got to give Giannis some help, man. I mean, I mean, you know what he gonna do? He just need a little help, man.
- [61:43]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, that joke had a Ocho double. You know you had a triple double or triple single. Yeah. Never see nobody have eight zeros. Yeah, yeah. Now if you got that, if you got money with eight zeros, well, you got the paper. Yeah.
- [61:59]
Unnamed Analyst
Hello.
- [62:00]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You don't want to, you, you don't want to have that on the basketball court. After finishing with the third worst defensive rating in the NBA this season, the Phoenix Suns prior to this offseason is to get tougher on the other end of the court. On the latest episode on YouTube show, NBA insider Chris Haynes explained the Suns intend to move away from trying to build around a couple of stars and having more defensive minded and tough players that allow them to be more physical. Joe, is this the right move? Because I believe the only guy that's untouchable is Devin Booker. Matt Ishbia seems to have made it very clear Devin Booker, what he's done in this community, what he's meant for this team, what he's meant for this city, he's off limits. Everybody else step right up.
- [62:48]
Unnamed Analyst
Depending on what you offer, he can say that now, but depending on what you depend on what you offering. I mean, man, they got two guys who were just on the USA Olympic team and they didn't even get in the play any game. Yeah, like this is, you know, that's unfortunate, bro. So I don't know, you know, I'm a Devin Booker fan, man, but you never know what these owners, once they, you know, first get in position, man, a lot of them, this is just. This is just for fun for them. You know what I mean? So, yeah, you know, they make moves that, you know, normally a seasoned person wouldn't do sometimes.
- [63:28]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I've been on the other end of that. I've been.
- [63:30]
Unnamed Analyst
I've been on the other end of that. I know what it's like.
- [63:32]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But here's the thing. I think, well, if you get rid of everybody, who are the fans going to rally behind? I think you keep Booker just out of that. Now, I don't. I. Me, personally, I don't think. I don't think they'll trade Book. That's just. Me personally. You believe that? That's possible, considering. But what are you going to get?
- [63:55]
Unnamed Analyst
Maybe get some draft picks.
- [63:57]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No.
- [63:57]
Unnamed Analyst
Bank on some of these young cats coming down. Hold on.
- [64:00]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But. That's the. But I'm saying you want to hold. You want to start your whole team with draft picks. What big.
- [64:06]
Unnamed Analyst
If you want. He mentioned he want better defense. He want physicality, right? You get rid of your scores. Bradley Bill, you know what? He agrees. He says, you know what? I have a no trade clause, but I'm gonna let y'all send me somewhere where I actually want to go. You move on from kd, so you go defensive wise, you go physicality. You keep Devin Booker. Well, where the hell is the scoring coming from? Where the scoring coming from?
- [64:30]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Now, I'm listening.
- [64:31]
Unnamed Analyst
I'm listening to us talk. We just talked about the Bucks, and you got two people. When you got one person. You got Dame out. Damon Dame is out. You got the only person putting up points that you can rely on to put the ball in the goddamn basket. And Giannis. But now we talk about getting rid of two prolific scores. Actually, yeah, two. And keeping one. And you want to go physicality, so that just depletes your team and puts you in the hole. You got everybody playing defense, but you ain't got nobody to score. That don't make no sense. How many games go in like that?
- [65:04]
Hey, we can only go up, man. We. We didn't make the play in Ocho. We. I mean, we got to do something, man.
- [65:11]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We.
- [65:11]
Unnamed Analyst
We're in the wild, wild west. Like, it's tough over there, man. It's tough.
- [65:17]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They gave up so much. They gave up so much to get kd. They gave up so much. They gave up draft picks. They gave up One of the better perimeter defenders in Mikhail Bridges, they gave up Cam Johnson, the guy that they gotta get knockdown shots. Okay, you said okay, big three, big three, big three. But. And now you lose DeAndre 8. Now DeAndre 8 wasn't the greatest defensive center but he was a seven foot rim presence. Now you don't have that. You have Nurkic. Nurkic is a big body, he can rebound but that's, that's about it. Slow footed, no real, no real threat on the offensive end. You had Alex Lynn for a while. You not he with the Lakers sitting on, taking up space. So I, I, I'm, when you, when you look at the Phoenix Suns, I mean I want some defense. He's probably going to want to go. They got, I mean look at this point, Brooklyn accommodated Kevin Durant. I want to go to Phoenix, play with Chris Paul, CP3. Well, that's what they need. They need a point guard. Let's start with that. First and foremost they need somebody to initiate the offense. I'm gonna take, I'm gonna take the ball out of Devin Booker hands and put him at the 2. Devin Booker is best at the 2, not running the offense at the 2. Let's start with that. Secondly, yeah, you got guys that can put the ball in the basket but you can't guard a parked car with a Uzi and the motor missing. Yeah. So, so now everything is a layup line. Everybody getting whatever they get whatever they want against Phoenix, whatever layup they, they get, layup line, they get shoot around threes. You not winning, you not winning like that.
- [67:00]
Unnamed Analyst
Yeah, they try to play Devin Booker like the Clippers do. James Harden just appreciate the offense can score it well, a willing passer can pass and it just hadn't worked out for him. It just hadn't worked out for him.
- [67:14]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But if you remember, James was always that because when he came in with the shock troops at okc, the ball was in his hands. So he's always been that. So now he goes to Houston and now he's not coming off the bench. You remember those first couple of games that he had with Houston, they're like what the hell, like 38, like 35. So James Harden has always had the ball in his hands. Now granted Russ came in and take some of that and obviously when you play with kd but when he went to Houston and perfected that craft. Yeah, yeah. So now he can play like that. Booker has never ever had to play like that.
- [67:56]
Unnamed Analyst
Right.
- [67:56]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So you're asking a guy to do something that he's really never done. It's nothing for James Harden to do that. Because guess what? Everywhere James Harden has been since he left okc, he's had the ball in his hand. Had the ball in his hand at Brooklyn, even with Kyrie and kd, James had the ball. He goes to Philly with Ben Simmons and, well, Ben was gone when he got there. And you had Joel Embiid and you had Tyrese Maxey. He had the ball. He goes to the Clippers, Paul, George Kawhi. He's got the ball. So you. That's what James Harden does. He has the ball. You're asking Booker to do something that he hasn't done.
- [68:37]
Unnamed Analyst
Yeah, James is a great ISO player. He has a great, great feel for the game, and he understands when to pass and when to be aggressive. And he's been great at picking his spots. Yeah, I mean, it's two totally different players. He's a better isolation player than Devin Booker, which is, you know, plus his IQ is very high as well, which is why he's a rack up these double doubles the way he does.
- [69:00]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He's led the league in assist twice, so clearly he can facilitate offense. Clearly, he understand he's an IQ basketball player. Look, you're not leading. Look, you're not gonna. You're not leading the league in assists. Now, granted, it happened. It happened. Hopefully the guy on the other end don't monk it up, but he understands. He's tremendous. And him and Zubots. He's turned Zubots into a hundred million dollar man.
- [69:25]
Unnamed Analyst
Yes, sir.
- [69:26]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Cause him and Zubots in the pick and roll, he gonna drop. You'll leave it for him. And Zubat's gonna power it home. Yeah, he's tremendous. He perfected that step back three. Yeah. James Harden. Cause he was the one that was. Hey, nah, Joe. When I first started doing, I said nah, nah, nah nah nah nah nah nah nah. That ninja travel.
- [69:54]
Unnamed Analyst
Hey, hey, I, you know, I had a little stint with Houston. I played with James, man, on that year, they won. We won like what was like 22 games in a row or something like that. 36 a game.
- [70:06]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
- [70:07]
Unnamed Analyst
I came in on the win streak. They had probably already won like 11, 12 in a row. But, man, his preparation for the game is different. He really sits in, he in the gym. He works on them shots, them unorthodox shots, which is why he's so tough to guard. He's so crafty in the pick and roll because he can beat you in every way if you go under. He gonna shoot the three if you go over, he gonna keep you in jail back there. Keep you in that little Hufflebuck. Now he got the floaters, the dish outs, the lives, the Zubop. And that's hard to stop, man. Look. Yeah, no, he, he got a crew with him who, you know, those guys made some shots tonight. That's why I was, I was shocked that they lost the way they control their game.
- [70:48]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, I, I think Kawhi cooled off a little bit in the second half. Cause the first quarter he had it going. Yeah, James had it going. I think James getting in foul trouble, that hurt them more than anything. Yeah, yeah, that, that, that really like. Because it took him out of his rhythm. But James can, look, I mean, you can't say enough good things about James Harden. He, he, first of all, he's a member of all 75th, the 75th anniversary team. That tells you right there, he's an MVP. He's an all NBA selection. And he had the highest scoring, the highest scoring month since, you know, since probably 70. He averaged 43 in a, in a, in a month. Yeah, which was a tick above what Kobe had. Remember Kobe averaged like 35 when he had that 81. He had like four or five 60 point games. But James Harden is a great scorer of basketball, but he's an IQ player. Normally, guys, it's hard to find a guy, he and Luka like that, that could score the basketball like that. They can get you 60, but they can get you 15 assists. There ain't been very many guys in the history of the game that could score 60 and get you 15 assists. James Harden and Luka could do that.
- [71:58]
Unnamed Analyst
Yeah, yeah, he can affect the game in that way. Yeah, he's a tough guard, man. He's a tough guard.
- [72:05]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You, James Jones, what you're doing, how do you, how do you improve the Knick, I mean, excuse me, the Suns, how do you get them better? Because just a couple of years ago they were in the playoff. They were, you know, they were in NBA finals. They had a 20 lead on Milwaukee. They ended up losing that. They make another run. How? What, what are you doing? What are you doing.
- [72:28]
Unnamed Analyst
Man? First, hope he keep his job.
- [72:31]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay.
- [72:32]
Unnamed Analyst
There's a lot of people, hey man, you know, I already got rid of the coach. They got rid of what, three coaches? All them coaches still making money.
- [72:39]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They fired Marty Williams after four years. They fired Vogel after not 10 months. They fired Bud Boonehoser after 11 months. So you about to have your fourth coach in four years. So you got $80 million you got $80 million in coaches that's not even working. But.
- [72:53]
Unnamed Analyst
And there's no players that's gonna walk through that room and save your job, though. There's players. Who are you going to get when you got some of the best already? That's funny to go get.
- [73:03]
That's why you got you starting over. You, you, you try to get lucky and get. If you try to get some of these top draft picks this year, and I don't know how you can do it, but there's some talent in this draft, man.
- [73:17]
And hey, okay, Joe, you said talent in the draft. Can you name one college player that can come in that gonna change the franchise?
- [73:24]
They can change. I ain't saying. When I say change, when you say change the franchise, I ain't saying it's a, it's a, it's a rookie who can come in and give him the 60.
- [73:32]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, ain't no LeBron James, ain't no Kevin Durant's in this draft.
- [73:35]
Unnamed Analyst
But you want it. You want excitement, you know, you want promise, you want hope. So it's some young females who can come in and keep these Phoenix fans excited enough to where they're still in tune with the Suns. Man, you know they love their sons down there.
- [73:52]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Yeah. The volume.
- [73:59]
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- [74:31]
Daniel Jeremiah
The 40s and free agents Podcast with Daniel, Jeremiah and Greg Rosenthal has prepared you for the 2025 NFL Draft.
- [74:39]
Greg Rosenthal
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Daniel Jeremiah
And how teams with new coaches should approach the draft.
- [74:45]
Greg Rosenthal
So as draft season comes to a close, we've got you covered. Before your favorite team goes on the clock, we'll break it all down once all 257 picks have been made.
- [74:54]
Daniel Jeremiah
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