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Shannon Sharpe
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
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Shannon Sharpe
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. As you watch, the Baltimore Ravens totally dominate the Houston Texans by the score of 31 2. Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry were sensational. Again, thank you for joining us on Christmas Day. And no matter what you celebrate, be it Christmas, be it Hanukkah, be it Kwanzaa, or just a holiday, happy holidays. Hopefully it was safe, it was joyous, and you got an opportunity to spend it with family, friends and loved ones. Again. Y'all know me. I'm your favorite dog. Shannon Sharpe, that guy is Liberty City's own Bengals Ring of Fame honoree, the Pro Bowler, the All Pro. That's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit that like, button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. And because it's Christmas and you here with us, thank you for your support. Thank you for your continued support in 25 and beyond. Yeah, make sure you check out Chez by La Portier. We have it in stock. The holidays is here. What better way to celebrate the holidays than with a bottle of Shea by La Portier? If you currently live in a city or a state that doesn't carry it, or you're not even close to one of those states, order it and we'll ship it right to your door. And one more thing. Please drink responsibly. Please go follow my media company page on all of his platforms that Shay Shay Media and the clothing company 84 with 84 being with being spelled out. Our newest release just dropped last month month we have T shirts, sweats as well as stocking stuffers such as Beanies Koozies, the beanies which I'm wearing and mugs. Quantities are limited so please make sure you grab yours while supplies last. Hopefully the orders Everyone has started receiving their orders. You should have them by Thursday and Friday so everybody orders should be fulfilled by the end of this week. And again, thank you for your continued support. Let us know what you think Tickets for the super bowl show in New Orleans, our first spring tour stop, are on sale now. The link is pinned at the top of the chat. February 6th in New Orleans. Great guests on schedule. Be there. You don't want to miss this. We've been nominated for two sports Podcast awards. Best Sports American Football Podcast and Best Sports Comedy Podcast. Again, Best American Football Podcast and Best Sports Comedy Podcast. Please go vote for us. The link is at the chat and it's also pinned on our social pages as well as our social bios. Ocho yeah, as I mentioned at the top, behind a dominant run game, Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry throttled the Houston Texans by a score of 31 2. They took over first place because the Steelers lost earlier today, they took over the first place in the AFC North. Lamar Jackson only had to throw the ball 10 times. He completed 10 of those for 168 yards, two touchdowns while rushing for 87 yards on full carries, including a 48 yard touchdown run. Derrick Henry 148 rush yards, 27 carries and a touchdown. He had 86 yards in the first carry. And so he also set a single season total touchdown record. As far as running backs and receivers, Everybody. He had 16 total touchdowns and he broke the record that he shared with Ray Rice. But the Ravens look really, really good today. They look dominant on both sides of the football. And that's what you want to see heading into the playoffs. As the season winds down, you want to start playing some of your best football. And the Baltimore Ravens are doing that.
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Unknown
This is, this is what I have a question for you now. Now, based on what we saw from Lamar Jackson today, Derrick Henry showed the load. Derrick Henry showed the whole package based on why they won the game. So as far as the MVP race is concerned, when we talk, when we talked last last time you said to you, Lamar Jackson is the mvp, somewhat running away with it, especially after today's win, is your thoughts Are your thoughts on your MVP going to change once we see the Bills Josh Allen play tomorrow and he puts up another unbelievable Superman performance, or are we sticking with Lamar the rest the next two games?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I think it's close, Ocho. And the thing is, is that the question is, if they win tomorrow, they clinch. They clinch the second seed. So does Josh Allen play the final game of the season? Lamar is going to play because right now they're number one. They're in first place in the AFC North. Now, if Pittsburgh wins next week and Baltimore lose, Pittsburgh re jumps them. And so now they're on the road for the first game instead of being at home.
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Unknown
Okay, let me give you a small tidbit real quick. So this weekend, matter of fact, Saturday, the Bengals play the Broncos, correct? Right? Correct.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
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Unknown
Okay. So after the Bengals beat the Broncos the following week, the Bengals are playing the Steelers. Yes. And the Bengals have to win the next two games in order to get out of the hunt and be in the playoffs and have somewhat of a wild card.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Correct. But they also got to hope the Broncos lose against Kansas City in which Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey and a lot of their starters aren't going to play because they've sold up the number one seed. You're not going to risk it. So now you got Kansas City that's not going to play any of their starters next week. Chris Jones is out. He missed today. So now you're looking at Kansas City. Mahomes is not playing. He's going to be in street clothes. Travis Kelsey will be in street clothes. A lot of their starters will be in street clothes. Now you got to place. You only got like eight offensive linemen. A lot of your offensive linemen got to play. Oh, you don't.
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Unknown
They, they don't have no choice.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They got no choice. But some of your skill position, you might call up some of your practice squad guys, give them an opportunity to get a full a real game check in a situation like that. But you're absolutely right. Bengals have to win their last two, hope the Broncos lose their, lose their last two. But they also got to hope Indy and Miami lose one. But if, if Indy and Miami win out, it doesn't matter what the Bengals do. It doesn't matter what the Broncos do. So they're behind the Bengal, they're behind the Dolphins, they're behind the Colts, and they're behind the Broncos. So they need the Broncos to lose their last two, and they lose, need Indy and Miami to lose at least one while they went out.
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Unknown
Hey, Is Is. Can Ash hear me? Can Ash hear me? Ash. Ash. Who does Indy in the Indy last two games and who are the Dolphins last two games? Please tell me it's somebody that's difficult. A team that are. That. That have winning records.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I think they got Buffalo. I know probably the last.
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Unknown
They got good.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, no, Miami got. No, but see, here's the thing, remember, as a matter of fact, they got. They got the jets tomorrow the Buffalo got the jets and the Patriots. Miami has the Browns and the Jets.
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Unknown
Oh, that's not fair. Hell no, man.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And Indy got Tennessee. Indy has the Giants and the Jags where they play they at the Giants home versus the Jags. So you need a lot of things to really, really go right for you guys in order to really make the playoff. And that's. And Ocho, this is what we always say. I hated that because I've been in that situation with the Bengals are in because we didn't take care of our business early in the season. Now I gotta hope and pray, man. I'm praying somebody else lose. I'm praying this happened. No, all you had to do was take care of what you're supposed to. And then you get to sit back and hope somebody else has to do that dirty work. I don't have to worry about that. But I think Kansas City likes where they are. They like, look, we did what we needed to do. We went on the road and they dominated the Steelers on both sides of the football. We're good. We gotta buy nothing. Nobody else do. Now we get an opportunity to rest up. And if you look at Ocho the last couple of games, they look really good. This was Patrick Mahomes best game three clean game easily. He threw the ball really well. They did a great job of throwing the football because look, against the Steelers, Steelers is like you got to be. You got to be convicted to run the football. You don't run the football on the Steelers on accident. You have to be committed. The word I want to be committed. You got to be committed no matter who you're. If you want to run the football. Oo, it's a commitment. You look at the Ravens. That's why the Ravens, for the most part, they one or two in the league in Russian. Why? Because they make a commitment to run the football. When you play the Steelers, you got to double that. You have to make a double commitment. Look, guys, we know some of these plays are going to be negative. We know some of these plays going to go for no yardage. But we got to Stick with it. And that's what the Ravens do for the most part. But if you look at when they. When they struggle, they get away from the run game. Lamar Jackson threw the ball 15 times tonight. He completed 10. They ran the ball almost triple that. 43 rush attempts you saw. Now, Derrick Henry, he loves running the football against the Houston Texans. Yeah, he loves it. He's had. In one season, he had a game where he rushed for 211 and then followed it up on the road with a 250. I think he has seven. I think he has, like, what, like seven games where he's at over 1500 yards rushing against the Houston Texans. So, yeah, no, I don't think we should be surprised that he had the type of game against the Houston Texans. But when the Baltimore Ravens show a commitment to run the football. Yeah, they're very difficult to beat. And we see how dynamic they is. And see, what happened was they. They got up to this great running start, and you saw what the Texans tried to do. They started pinching, they started knifing. And Todd Monkey says, okay, Will Anderson Jew, you want a knife? Hey, we gonna fake it, Lamar, you keep it, and we gonna pull around, get on. And now he hit his head on the goal post for 48 yards away.
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Unknown
Yep.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm gonna make you play us honest now. Now if you want to. Do you want to go against what you're supposed to do and knife down in there to trap Derrick Henry in the backfield? Okay. Hey, Lamar, we gonna run the same formation. We gonna give him the same design. Because the last time they brought Zay Flowers, he disregarded. Zay, I ain't worried about you, Zay. You ain't gonna do nothing. So this time they brought a tight end. He disregarded it. Now you got an extra blocker up on somebody, you get a kick out, you get a pin down, and now it's your safety. Tackle him if you can.
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Unknown
At that point, it's all about numbers game. It's a number game at that point. Yeah, listen, with the Ravens playing the way they're playing with us, common sense. You've been preaching it all season long. Anytime they run the ball a certain number of times, using Derrick Henry and not allowing Lamar Jackson to be back there and be pass happy and allowing the pass plays to actually come to them and not forcing the issue. Let Derrick Henry take care of everything. Obviously, the way they play the game is the old school style. It's the old school style and the fact that it works in today's era of a past happy league where everybody throws the ball 100 times a game. Yeah, but what works for the Ravens and why they win games is doing what you've always said, what you've always said week in and week out. I think, listen, listen. I'm a Bengal at heart. I think they have a very good chance. And this being the year that Lamar Jackson wins the super bowl, and it would have to come on the onus and the shoulders of Derrick Henry and them sticking like you said, and committing to running the ball no matter who they playing against.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And that's what you have to do. Ocho. I think the thing is, is that. And people like, well, what do you mean by knifing? It's when they take the defensive end and they try to cross the guy's face. Because you see the two negative runs he had. What happened? The guy knife and they made him bounce it. So that's what I wanted to do. I don't want to show the pass square to the line of scrimmage. I want him going parallel to the line of scrimmage because now he can't get a head of steam and he can't hurt me. If you look at when he got his yardage, he's going downhill. I don't want him going downhill. I want him going laterally. That way I can push him to the boundary. If I let him get downhill, hell, he gonna fall. He gonna fall for 2 yards. Now you let him get. Now you let him get. Get a couple of steps. Now he gonna get four. He's gonna get six yards. But Todd Monkey did a great thing to counter that. He saw what they started to do to try to force the bounce. He said, you know what we're going to do? We're going to read the same thing. But what we're going to do is that we're going to bring a tight end. And so now we get a kick out. We get a pin down. Now safety. And the safety is coming from depth. So he really doesn't know what to do. And before he knew it, Lamar was up on him and he took a horrible angle. So now Lamar is looking at like, bro, what you run still running for.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You might go ahead and turn around.
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Unknown
Yeah. The funny thing about it is we already know Lamar Jackson is fast, but you never understand it as a defender until you sit there and you take a bad angle and you try to.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Tackle him, it's over.
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Unknown
And you fucking whiff.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Unknown
And you whiff. And before you know it, he 30, 40, some yards down the goddamn field.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And the thing is, Ocho, and when you don't make him check his feet, when you just let him get ahead of steam and he gets to go downhill. Cause by the time he breaks the line of scrimmage, he's like three or four yards. He full speed. He full speed in three or four steps. Lamar Jackson is full speed because you haven't made him check his feet, right?
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Unknown
You got to. If you can't make him come to balance and if you can't make him make some type of move to make you miss, boy, your ass in trouble. Hell, if you can't make Derrick Henry.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Shuffle his feet, you can't make him check his feet.
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Unknown
Man, who wanna make, who want to make that tackle? Are you talking about making a business decision? I'm diving straight at his pinky toe.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Exactly.
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Unknown
Straight at his sticky toe. Hit who?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Oh. So we went and looked it up. Adrian James had the most rushing yards for a quarterback in his MVP season. He had 1548 yards. Peyton Manning was the MVP in 2000 and 2004. Peyton. That was the year that Peyton broke Dan Marino's record of 40. He threw 49. Marino had the record of 48 touchdowns in the season. Manning threw 49 that season. That's also the season he had three receivers catch 4,000 yards. He had Marvin Harrison go over a thousand. He had Reggie Wayne go over a thousand. And he had Brandon Stokely go over a thousand. Derrick Henry is almost at 1800. And so look, for me, I still think for me, Lamar and I, I get what, I get what the voters are going to say. The voters are going to say with Shannon, bro, He got a 19, 18, 1900 yard rusher in his backfield.
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Unknown
But he didn't have MVP last time.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I like, huh?
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Unknown
He didn't have a, he didn't have a 1900 yard rusher when he went MVP last time. So they can't use that excuse. Don't move the goal post.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But I'm saying, but see, last time, ocho, he threw 25 touchdowns. He's at 39 with another game to play. So there's a great chance Lamar Jackson is going to have 40, 41, maybe even 42 touchdowns with less than five interceptions. Remember, he threw five interceptions. He was 25 and five. Now he's like, he's got 43 touchdowns with, with, with four interceptions. And maybe I think he got two or three fumbles. So let's just say he. 43 total touchdowns with seven, seven or fewer turnovers.
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Unknown
Go ahead Matter of fact, I'm glad you just said that about the turnover ratio. I know. And we talk about Aaron Rodgers a lot, right? Yes, we talk about Aaron Rogers. You wonder why he gets the opportunities he gets. Why he's has the arrogance or the way he carries himself. Uncle, they put up a graphic. I saw it on Twitter on his numbers and his run when he was in Green Bay.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, yeah. You see the.
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Unknown
Oh, my God, Unk. I know. I ain't know he was like that.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
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Unknown
I ain't know he was like that. 25 and 3. 36 and 36 and 5.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. 45. Yeah. 45 and 6. Yeah.
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Unknown
What? Touchdown, Touchdown, interception ratio.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
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Unknown
What? Stupid. It looks like some video. Some video game. So it gave me a better understanding. It gave me better context on why he is the way he is. But you're just not that same player.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He's not that.
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Unknown
You're not that no more.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No.
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Unknown
But, God, hey, listen, I knew he was good. I understood his resume. I didn't understand it until I seen them goddamn numbers up there on goddamn Twitter.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So now, today, after today's game, Derrick Henry has 1738 rushing yards. Lamar Jackson is a tick below 4000, I think he has like 39, 55, 39, 65, something like that, passing yards. But he has 39 passing touchdowns with four interceptions, and he has 850 something yards rushing with another four touchdowns.
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Unknown
So can't argue.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It's hard. It's really, really hard. I think this year, Ocho had. Mahomes had better numbers. It wouldn't even be a debate because 15, one, if Lamar Jackson had like 30 touchdowns with say, like eight interceptions. Lamar Jackson, I mean, excuse me, Mahomes would be the mvp because think about it. They're the only team other than the giants. They're like three, four teams that haven't scored at least 30 points in one game. The best of the other teams, they won three games.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The Chiefs have yet to score 30 in the game. They're 15 and 1. And it's all because now those other team, the Raiders, is one. They're looking for a quarterback. The Patriots is one. They got a rookie quarterback. And I forget who the other team is. So that just goes to show you just how special you got to be. Nobody else in that offense on that team. No other quarterback in the league. Not Josh Allen, not Lamar Jackson. And that's. And no, not Joe Burrow would be 151 with that offensive line like that, right? Yeah. Oh, it was bad. And it just. And today he put on the exhibition, he lets, you know, he like guys, y'all really know I'm still him. I might not be having the best season, but don't y'all forget who I am.
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Unknown
Yeah, listen, it all comes down to his decision making, uncle.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Unknown
Even when, even when, when most quarterbacks would be in the situations he, he's had with the offensive line, the inconsistency of the offensive line, him getting battered, getting hit, you know, at some point you get happy feet. You, you start doing things with the ball, your decision making, it becomes errant because of the hit you continue to take. But he, they, they, they, they've always stuck the course. And then the creativity and the combination of having a quarterback like Patrick Mahomes and the creativity of, of Andy Reid as well.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
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Unknown
I think the combination works so well together. Similar to that or Brady. Brady and goddamn Belichick. You know, different sense, though. In a different sense because Belichick was a, was a defensive mind.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right.
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Unknown
But just having Mahomes and Andy Reid together, it's almost unfair to have all the different woes and the injuries that they, that they've sustained and still be 15 and 1.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. The thing is about Andy, for the most, for Mahomes, the most part, he's only had Andy in his ear. Now, there have been times that he allowed somebody else to call, maybe EB to call plays or maybe Nagy to call plays, but Brady had Charlie Weiss in his ear. He had Bill O'Brien in his ear. He had Josh McDaniel in his ear.
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Unknown
Yeah, I was there with Bill. Yeah.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So he's had three guys in his ear. Now, the only thing that's remained the same was the head coach and the quarterback. We've had different coordinators, but. And the coordinators call plays. I think for the most part, what people got upset about is that they use not calling plays against ebay. But he didn't hold that against Nagy. Now, Nagy did get a team, did get the Bears to the playoffs. And we've seen EB Go somewhere where he called the plays, kind of fell on hard times. And everybody was like, see, I told you. See? And I said it at the time, I said, eb, stay right there. Yeah, stay right where you are.
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Unknown
But you know, you know why he didn't there? Cause, you know, for us, you know, it's hard for us to climb that ladder. So when those opportunities present itself, sometimes you gotta walk out that door.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What you think the likelihood now of Eric Benamee ever getting a head coaching job? In the nf.
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Unknown
And you know what? And that's the problem. That's the problem. I'm not going to go there. You know where I want to go, but I'm not going. I'm not going to there. Because sometimes you could step off the front porch, you know, and you can. You could be abysmal. But that circle, that circle of coaches, you will get another opportunity again because.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They'Re looking at it.
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Unknown
They like, I'm not talking about him.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay. Okay. I see what you say.
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Unknown
Yeah, yeah, see?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Stay.
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Unknown
Stay with me now. I'm trying not to go there, but you know what I'm trying to say. But I'm not going to say it.
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Shannon Sharpe
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I would have stayed right there and hell, maybe somebody give me a head coaching job out of sympathy. I ain't lied. Ocho, baby. Somebody give me a head coaching job out of sympathy. Because Ocho, when you go at the Commanders and they get the number two pick in the draft because the offense is so atrocious and you go to UCLA with a brother, coach, head coach and you get fired after one year because you lasted, Ocho, that's not a good sign. Yeah, it really, it really isn't. And so sometimes, hey, I just wait them out. Just wait them out.
- [28:08]
Unknown
Right?
- [28:09]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Look, I look for me, Lamar is the mvp. I mean I just can't, I just can't overlook his numbers. I just can't. Ocho. And I know some people like what it'd be interesting to see what's the most losses for an mvp. That and I get it. Ocho. Five losses and Allen has what, three losses. Mahomes doesn't have the stats to back up. He's 51. Jerry Goff has good numbers. He doesn't have great numbers, but they've only lost two games. Saquon is playing really well, but unless he had 2,000 yards right now.
- [28:43]
Unknown
Right. Yeah, he's not. I mean running back not getting that.
- [28:46]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh Lord. That was in 2097. But he was his.
- [28:53]
Unknown
Who that? Who that?
- [28:56]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Barry. Barry. In 97 they were 9 and 7. But that was the year he had 2053. And then Adrian Peterson, the year he broke the record, he was five yards short of the six, seven, eight yards short of the record nine yards short because he had 1990. 19. He had 2097. So he needed nine yards to get 2106. But he won the MVP. But then now in that situation, it's different. Ocho, let me tell you why. You look at the quarterbacks that Barry had and you look at the quarterback AP had, it's like it should have been unanimous. Oh, yeah, he had Christian Pond as his quarterback. I don't know if y'all don't remember Christian Ponder, but he was real good and terrible. And Barry quarterback. What? Much better, right?
- [29:43]
Unknown
Wait, who is Barry quarterback? Scott Mitchell. Was it Scott Mitchell?
- [29:46]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay. Oh, but so there is history here. The most losses for a quarterback winning mvp. Brett Favre won the MVP with five losses. Matt Ryan won the MVP with five losses. Rich Gannon won the MVP with five losses. So if Lamar Jackson wins the mvp, it's not like, oh, he got five losses. No, we've seen three other guys at the quarterback position win MVP with five losses. So what I'm trying to do, Ocho, I'm trying to cover all the bases because you know this is going to come up. If he doesn't get it, they're going to give you a reason why. So I'm just trying to prepare the people. If he doesn't get the mvp, I'm telling you why. Some of the reasons going to start to come out. But your refute is. But they've given the MVP to other quarterbacks that didn't have this type of season, the mvp. Right. With five losses. Running backs are different because look, like I said, Adrian Peterson, how he got that team in the playoffs with that quarterback, how Barry did with it. But Barry was a co MVP with Brett because Brett won three consecutive. 95, 96, 97. There was a CO MVP between Brett and Barry. But yeah, I, I, like I said for me, if I had a vote, I definitely would vote for Lamar Jackson. I just can't over. I just cannot overlook 39 touchdowns with four interceptions. They're right now their first place in the AFC North. The four rushing touchdowns with 852 yards. I can't overlook that. I know Derrick Henry's in his backfield. I know. Excuse me. Derek Henry is lighting the load on Lamar, but he's still doing it. Yeah, he's still doing.
- [31:22]
Unknown
You know what's funny? And it's funny for me, even I can separate the two. I can separate being a, being a Bengal playing for a franchise where obviously the enemy is the Ravens, but I can separate the two and understand the greatness that is Lamar Jackson. I can appreciate the quarterback playing what he's been able to do since watching him in high school at Boynton High School, watching him at Louisville and seeing how he's grown and matured into the quarterback he is today. When they've always said what he couldn't do. You know, we don't think he can be a quarterback in this NFL. We think he should try running back.
- [31:56]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Hell no.
- [31:57]
Unknown
Just. Just all the stuff he's had to overcome all the obstacles and the hurdles and to see where he's come now, I can honestly say this, and, and even as a Bengal, as much as I bleed that goddamn black and orange, I really hope he win it the whole thing this year. I really hope he win. Listen, I really hope he wins the whole thing this year. Unk. Not just the mvp, but. Goddammit, motherfucker. Get you a chip just to get them off your back so there's nothing else they can say. Just so there's nothing else going to say. And if you, if you have any type of documentary, if you have any type of film that talks about the start to the finish. I wanted to all. I want the lead up to it, how it starts to be all the negative things everybody said.
- [32:38]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's all Joe people. I think the thing is when you try to. When we try to explain things to people, people don't see they'll take a clip and because a lot of times people use clickbait because if they've got my face, they got our face up there or Nightcap said something and they frame it in a negative light. They don't even listen to it. I've said I don't believe Lamar Jackson career is a failure if he doesn't win a championship. But they've been nine guys to win two MVPs. Every last one has won a Super Bowl. Guys, people say Aaron and Aaron. Aaron Rodgers has underachieved with force MVPs in one Super Bowl. So what do you think they're going to say about Lamar if he has three MVPs and no super Bowls on his resume when he retires? If Aaron Rodgers. If people believe Aaron Rodgers has underachieved with four MVPs in one Super Bowl? Ocho, what will people say about Lamar if he has three MVPs and no super Bowls when his career is over?
- [33:45]
Unknown
It's going to.
- [33:46]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It's going to be a disappointment.
- [33:47]
Unknown
Yeah, it's going to be worse. You understand that, that people understand that those are. That you have to be able to not be a fan, understand the politics, understand what comes with the game. When it comes to the totality and the resume and the entirety of someone's body of work in the requirements to be talked about in the elite, the top four groups. Yes, you got to win. You got to win a trophy. You got to have one. You need something, at least one of them, especially when you're as great as you are in the regular season. Which is why I can sit here and say, I really hope. I really hope after winning MVP this year, I hope he goes to New Orleans and he's able to lift that goddamn Lombardi. I really do.
- [34:35]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And that's what it. And that's what. And that's what it comes down to, Ocho. It really does. You know, look, you got to take black and white out of it. I know everything. We want to make a lot of things we want about racism, but we can't do it in this situation because we have nine guys that have won at least two MVPs. Every last one has won an MVP, a Super Bowl. So now we're going to say, well, well, if Lamar Jackson don't win, well, that's fine and dandy. No. And the reason why I don't and many others don't hold Burrow and Josh Allen and all the other quarterbacks to Lamar because they don't have mvp. Once you get an mvp, you're thought of, you looked at differently.
- [35:19]
Unknown
Right.
- [35:19]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He gets looked at like now he gets. Now he wins a Super bowl, he gets judged just like my homeboy. He gets just like Brady, just like Manning, just like all the other great quarterbacks that have multiple MVPs and a Super Bowl. That's only right.
- [35:39]
Unknown
Hey, and you know what? You know what? I think about it.
- [35:41]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
- [35:42]
Unknown
I think about it from a different perspective. I'm looking at it through a different lens. I think about Lamar Jackson the quarterback. Lamar Jackson the quarterback that doesn't fit the mold.
- [35:51]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
- [35:51]
Unknown
That all the rest of them do. The Lamar Jackson that chose not to change, The Lamar Jackson that remained his true, authentic self, especially based on where he's come from. You know, he's still. He's still Lamar Jackson. The same Lamar Jackson from Pompano. Yes. Nothing changed. And he's still playing the quarterback position without having to conform, staying true to himself to who he really is.
- [36:15]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's what makes him.
- [36:16]
Unknown
I love that.
- [36:17]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's what makes him who he is. He's not a pocket passer, so why am I going to try to be Tom Brady. Why am I going to try to be Peyton Manning when I can be Lamar Jackson and win just like they won and win MVPs and get to. And win the Super Bowl? They could. They had to do it that way because they didn't have the athleticism to play outside of the pocket. Lamar Jackson has the athleticism to play outside of the pocket. He also has the ability to throw in between. In. In between the tackles. But if I don't have to, why should I? I don't have to prove I. Well, I'm gonna win this game. And sometimes I felt that he wanted to prove that he could throw the ball from the pocket and win a game. To say, I told you so, win that super bowl and say all y'all 31 that passed me, even the Ravens. But I give y'all the grace because Ozzy got out. He. He was in the second round. He traded back up to get me, and I promised him a Super Bowl. I delivered that. But I'm not done. So if you think I'm gonna be satisfied with one, you're sadly mistaken. I'm putting everybody on notice now. Hopefully they bring D. Henry back. I don't know what he on a one year.
- [37:32]
Unknown
He on a one year.
- [37:33]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
One year. One year, 8 million, man. They.
- [37:40]
Unknown
They got. They got to bring him back. I'm not saying, I'm not saying they got to, but understand they need to and how the business works, right? I mean, listen. While it's hot. While the comb is hot. While the comb is hot. Come on now, don't be no fool.
- [37:54]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And the thing is, Ocho, as many carries as he gets the ball, he's there every week now. I don't know what his practice schedule is like. I don't know if they give him off Monday, I mean Wednesday, Thursday, and just let him have some running back.
- [38:07]
Unknown
The running back. The running back always get Wednesday. Offense.
- [38:10]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
All I know is more times than not, he lines it up.
- [38:15]
Unknown
Yeah.
- [38:17]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
All that other stuff, I don't know about. I don't know a whole lot of other stuff, but I know that man takes a lot of pounding. And every single week I see him.in the eye, so. Oh. It only took Lamar four carries to become the all time leading rusher in NFL history for the quarterback position, the record was 6109 held by former colleague Michael Vick. Lamar passed Michael vick despite playing 41 fewer games. So basically he played two and a half seasons fewer than what Vic has played and he broke the record.
- [38:50]
Unknown
Crazy. That's crazy. And, and you wouldn't, people wouldn't understand how crazy that is and how that sounds when you understand what Vick was during his time. Here's the thing though, Ocho.
- [39:02]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It took Michael Vick 13 seasons to get to that number. Lamar's done under seven, right? In under seven season. He's in his seventh season right now, right? Yeah, he's in seventh. Cause he's right. But he's a year behind my homeboy. Cause my homeboy is in eight. He's in seventh. But he started halfway through his rookie season where my homeboy only got the one game. Go ahead.
- [39:28]
Unknown
I have a question too. I like the, the milestone that he's reached in such a short amount of time. Short amount of time as opposed to Vic. When you think about numbers like this, right. And saying that Lamar was able to reach a milestone that took, that took Vic a little bit longer. You know, it took Vic a little bit longer to get to.
- [39:47]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You count the season which he get drafted cuz he go play that year. Mahomes came in a year before it's, it did Mahomes run the MVP his rookie his second year and then Lamar wasn't the MVP his second year. Go ahead. What were you saying, Ocho?
- [40:02]
Unknown
Yeah, now I was saying when you look at the milestone that Lamar Jackson was able to reach in such a short amount of time as opposed to Vic who took a little longer to do it. The same thing. When it comes to receivers, receivers playing in today's game and receivers that played before them in a different era, do you ever take into account that the game is different now sense into how you're not allowed to, you know, the, the, the physicality has been taken out of it. So it's, it's. I don't want to call it easy. It's a little bit easier to, to put up the numbers they're doing today or you don't take that into account.
- [40:34]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh yeah, well for the quarterback. Is it really easy for the quarterback to scramble? Yeah, look, I, I think that here it is, Ocho. I think the thing is, is that they do protect the quarterback a lot more than say maybe even when big first got into the league. It's not like look, they didn't they protect all the quarterbacks now. 80s and the 90s when I came to league 60s and 70s. Oh no, boy, look here.
- [40:59]
Unknown
Hey, they didn't care about none of y'all well being back if they would.
- [41:04]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hit a quarterback like some of the times I saw Elway get hit my Quarterback. And see some of the mother. Quarterback. Oh, you get suspended three games. I'm telling them Joe will put in a helmet. Right. Oh, man, they were putting their helmet right in the guy's sternum.
- [41:19]
Unknown
Right, right.
- [41:20]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Drop it. I mean, we wanted. We got to the super bowl because Goose dropped his weight down on Rich Gannon's shoulder. Come back and look at the AFC Championship game. Separated his. Broke his collarbone, separated shoulder, something. And put him out. You can't attack the quarterback like that. But. Yeah, but what, what. What l. Jack is doing at the quarterback position. Because not only can he run, we know he's the best runner in the game. Yeah. Now he's a top five passer, and I'm not so sure he's four or five. So when you look at that, when you combine, he's the best runner at the quarterback position and he's a top five passer at the position. How do you stop him? You hope he has an off day. You hope you pressure him. You hope you can get a couple of turnovers here and there, and that's the way you beat the Ravens.
- [42:09]
Unknown
Try to try to get him off schedule, try to get him off script. That's the best thing you can do. But the problem is if you pressure him and he get out the back door.
- [42:17]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, you better run past it now.
- [42:19]
Unknown
Then you asked out.
- [42:20]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, you better not jump. Hey, once you get even, you see it back there, Ocho, he back here. Once you get here, you better level off.
- [42:28]
Unknown
Yeah, you run past it, stop and be under control. Hey, it's sadly, this one. It's one thing to talk about it. It's another thing to be out there and goddamn be able to do it.
- [42:38]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Absolutely. What we do have to factor in that Michael Vick went away. He did go to federal prison for 23 months. I think he was out of the league for like two or three years. And so who the record would. Look, I'm not saying Lamar wouldn't have this record eventually, but I do believe Michael Vick would have had more rush yards than what he had. Because when he came back, yeah, he was still. But he wasn't the Michael Vick experience, Vic. Right. He wasn't Atlanta Vic. He was a better. He. They. He was a better thrower of the football in Philly, but that guy on that turf in Atlanta. The Chiefs go to Pittsburgh and they win 29 to 10. Sew up the number one seed in the AFC with a 15 1. They'll get the first round by have home field advantage throughout the Playoffs, as long as they win. The 19 point margin of victory was the Chiefs largest of the season. They had 389 yards, more than half. More than they had all but oh, check this out. Yeah.389 was the most yards they had in the season in all but one game, even without Chris Jones. Russell Wilson was sacked five times, intercepted once. And they forced us turnover by the Steelers. Andy Reid called it the most complete game of the season. You and I talked about that in the beginning of the thing. When you look at Mahomes and you look at what they were able to do offense without their best defensive player on the road in a hostile environment. And I look, I know the Steelers have kind of fallen on hard times. They've lost their last three games, but that's still Pittsburgh very well coached. They have a very good defense. Offensively, they couldn't run the football today, or they did run it. Good God. Oh, that was late in the ball game. Najee Harris had 13 for 74. Jalen Warren had 11 for 71. They had 31 for 202. I think the turning point, Ocho in that ball game is when Russ threw that interception in the end zone. Got food. It was covered, Ocho. What it was, it was cover two. And what McDuffie did is that he got a jam so good on Pickens. Pickens stopped. So in the process of him stopping, Reed is looking at him, he's like, well, I don't gotta get wide now. I can stay right here on the hash. Russell Spoon thought he was gonna get wide. He doesn't get wide. I got you.
- [44:57]
Unknown
See, it was Pickens. Pickens can't get jammed there. Cause we need you gotta go.
- [45:01]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You still gotta go. Hold the safety.
- [45:03]
Unknown
You gotta put the safety in the motherfucking bind. You got the safety in the bind. Then it's a two way go. Rush has a two way to go with the ball. But once you took it once, once Duffy took away Pickens, there's only one, it's only. And once you look it to the left, there's only one place you can go.
- [45:16]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Exactly. Because here's the thing. If, if pickens gets past McDuffie, right, McDuffie got to retreat. But now since Pickens stop, there ain't nothing to threaten the flat. So I'm gonna stay right here.
- [45:30]
Unknown
Yeah.
- [45:31]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And so now instead of getting wide, Reed says, I, why do I need to get wide for? Ain't no threat over there.
- [45:37]
Unknown
No threat.
- [45:37]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, my threat is coming. And he like, boom. And then he picked Him. And I think that cost him a little bit more. That cost him some momentum right there. Yeah.
- [45:45]
Unknown
And you know what? The Steelers in the first half, I mean, they were. They were trying to control time of possession, obviously. Being able to run the ball. Being able to run the ball and throw it here and there, especially to the tight end. Is it. I don't. I don't want to butcher his name. Is it. Fire. Fire.
- [46:00]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Move, fire, move. Friar, move.
- [46:03]
Unknown
Him and him. And Russ was cooking for a little bit on some of those plays.
- [46:06]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [46:07]
Unknown
The problem with them is when they were getting into the red zone, they weren't being. They weren't scoring. They weren't pitting them no damn points, man. They won't put them.
- [46:15]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No.
- [46:16]
Unknown
If you. If you're getting down and if you're getting anywhere in the facility, anywhere in the vicinity, you got to put up something.
- [46:21]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
- [46:22]
Unknown
You got to.
- [46:22]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes. Ocho. The Steelers didn't run the ball that well going into the fourth quarter. The Steelers had 10 rushes for 89 yards. So that two. That's in the fourth quarter. Yeah. And so now, that tells me that's a lot of garbage yards. So in the fourth quarter, at some point, they. Like the Chief said, like, we'll let y'all run it. We just not gonna give y'all anything. Anything cheap. Anything deep.
- [46:46]
Unknown
Right.
- [46:46]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right. Russell Wilson was 23 of 37, 205. He didn't play well. Russ hadn't played well the last couple of weeks, and this team is not good enough to overcome poor play at the quarterback position. Remember, that's why they made the switch to Russ, because they were winning games. But it's a. It's a struggle when your quarterback doesn't play well, because now you in these nail biters, and you got to go nip, tuck, nip, tuck, nip, tuck. And a lot. You got to hope a lot of things go well. The one turnover. You only had the one turnover today. But again, they had two turnovers that.
- [47:20]
Unknown
Right.
- [47:21]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That definitely took points off the board because they were already in field goal range. And so that interception that Reed got took points off the board. We don't know how that would have turned out if they could have held onto that ball, that Fry Mo fumble. But when you. When you. When you. When you play up again, play against the Chiefs, even though they're not as explosive as they once were, you still. You got to play. You still got to play damn near perfect. Don't worry about them. What they doing.
- [47:51]
Unknown
Oh, yeah, you.
- [47:53]
Shannon Sharpe
You.
- [47:53]
Unknown
You have to. You have no choice. You know why? Because of 15.
- [47:58]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Because of 15 he forced.
- [48:01]
Unknown
That's all. That's all.
- [48:02]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It come down to 29 of 38, 323 touchdowns. Kelsey, eight catches, 84 yards of touchdowns. Xavier Worthy, eight catches, 79 yards, touchdown. Justin Watson, two catches, 60 yards, touchdown. Hollywood Brown, four for 46. Samaji P. Ride, two for 20. Juju, two for 18. D Hop had a quiet day today. But the thing is. And listen, y'all listen. I don't know what y'all thinking when they bring Justin Watson in the game. He running two routes. He running a nine or ain't running a post. Now, I don't know what y'all thinking, but y'all need to go back. He can run.
- [48:46]
Unknown
Oh, yeah.
- [48:48]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
DB I don't know what y'all been told that white, white, white guys can't run. They can't jump. When Justin Watson comes in the game, he gonna run two routes. He running a post, or he gonna run his nine route. Now, you ain't gotta believe me, but now when the man behind you you looking like, well, what happened? I told you what happened. They're gonna run the dagger, the one to the backside, and they're gonna hope to the safety jump it, and they're gonna run the post to the backside with him on it.
- [49:19]
Unknown
Yeah, I'm so.
- [49:20]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm. I'm just giving. Just giving you. I'm just giving you a heads up in case y'all don't want to watch film. But that's what Justin Watson, because he got wheels, he can run, and he's a big kid. He ain't no little receiver.
- [49:33]
Unknown
Ocho, I think Deontay Johnson, he kind of underestimated him a little bit. He tried to jam him at the line, and he missed. And I thought, you know, Deontay. You know, Deontay's fast now, so I thought maybe he thought, oh, I'm gonna catch up to him.
- [49:45]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, no, you're not. Oh, no, Ocho, people don't understand 43 ain't catching 4 3. 43 might catch 4 5. You ain't catching 4 3, because you got to realize you got the backpedal and then turn. He running from the jump.
- [50:00]
Unknown
Yeah, yeah.
- [50:02]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You not catching that.
- [50:03]
Unknown
Nah.
- [50:04]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And got a big play out of that. But the Steelers. Woo. Y'all gotta dig deep now, Ay. Because you know the Bengals are coming in. They know in order for them to have any chance, they've got to win, that if they win Sunday. They know in order for them to have any chance. They've got to win. Y'all gotta take care of this. So the Broncos got y'all, though.
- [50:26]
Unknown
Hold on, hold on. When we. When we win Saturday, we play Saturday.
- [50:30]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, Saturday. My bad. You right. You're right.
- [50:32]
Unknown
When we play and win Saturday, then we do. We. We will take care of our business with the Steelers.
- [50:38]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay?
- [50:38]
Unknown
Right now, we. We focus on the Broncos, y'all focus on the Broncos. We focus on the Broncos.
- [50:43]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Bronco.
- [50:44]
Unknown
After that game. Bronco who?
- [50:46]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Bronco country. Yeah.
- [50:47]
Unknown
Okay.
- [50:48]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Because after that game, y'all ain't got no. Y'all talking about, welcome to the jungle. Yeah, y'all ain't got no problem.
- [50:54]
Unknown
Yeah. Hey, that's. It's a jungle. Oh, it's. It's a jungle now. Believe that. Where we playing y'all at? We. We going to Mile High.
- [51:02]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, y'all. We come to y'all.
- [51:04]
Unknown
So what you think gonna happen? What you think for that matter of fact, I'm gonna go to that game Bronco Country? Matter of fact, I'm gonna go to that game. Hey, hey, Patrick Sertine Jr. What you gonna do? What you gonna do with Uno and five out there?
- [51:18]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Do you realize when they target. When they. When they target PS2. Yeah, their QB, their rating is like 36.1. You come out better just throwing the ball in the dirt. You'll have a higher quarterback rating if you just threw the ball in the dirt.
- [51:34]
Unknown
Okay, so you. You want. You want to bet something on the matchup?
- [51:38]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You already owe me three bands.
- [51:40]
Unknown
Oh, you. How much?
- [51:42]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Three band.
- [51:44]
Unknown
Let's double or nothing, then. Double or not double or nothing. Double or nothing.
- [51:48]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
How you go through the bank borrowing money from the bank? Don't pay the money, don't make no money and say give. And say, you know what? Hey, give me double what you owe me. Give me. I want you to give me double what I borrowed from you, and I'mma pay you back.
- [52:02]
Unknown
I. I tell you, I'm good for it, though.
- [52:03]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, you ain't good for it. If you were good for it, I already have it. My money drawing interest in your pocket.
- [52:11]
Unknown
You know, double it up then. One thing about it, I'm gonna get. I'm gonna get. I'm gonna get it to you regardless, because you know I'm good for it.
- [52:18]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What they say, money out of sight, calls a fight.
- [52:21]
Unknown
We don't fight. Because I listen. I'm not go. I'm not going to jail for beating on my elders.
- [52:27]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I tell you what I do. What I tell people right here. Ocho if I can't get you up off me you're welcome to stay I promise you that that's all I got for you if you get on me and I can't get you off feel free to stay there But I promise you I bet I'll make you turn me loose hey hey.
- [52:53]
Unknown
That's a good one. That's a good one.
- [52:59]
Shannon Sharpe
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Russell Wilson goes all out for gifts for his offensive lineman. He gave each of his offensive linemen a ten thousand dollar gift card, Airbnb gift card that can be used anywhere around the globe. He got each one of them Louis Vuitton duffel bags and Steelers covers colors custom made Steeler Good man brand shoes made with Wilson's, his clothing brand, and a bottle of Sierra's 10 to 1 rum. There were some good gifts that. I mean, the Eagles, Hertz and Saquon got the lineman custom golf carts. I'm talking about big ones. Josh Jacobs got the offensive lineman diamond pinnace, diamond pennants. Yeah, we saw my homeboy. I forgot what my homeboy got his guys. But I mean. Oh, he got a Rolex. Hey, Lamar Jackson, he got his guys Rolexes. LJ got his guys Rolexes. Yeah, the offensive lineman, they feel real confident. They got Josh Allen, appenda with MVP on the back.
- [57:19]
Unknown
Oh, they, they jumped. They jumping together. They jump in the gun, right? A little bit. Rightfully so. Even if he doesn't win it. No, in their eyes, he's had an MVP season. So I understand it. I, I understand it. But listen, them quarterbacks, they make a, they making different kind of money where you can give these type of gifts.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [57:41]
Unknown
Give these type of gifts to your lineman and appreciation for what they've done for you throughout the entirety of the season. It's, it's a dope gesture. It's a very, very dope gesture.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, sure. Plus the fact, look, quarterbacks, they're different. Quarterbacks can go to dealers and these places that have these ATVs and all this other stuff and they gonna get a discount. They gonna hit me and you over the head. They gonna want full price. As a matter of fact, they might upcharge us. I mean, but the quarterbacks they probably hey, you, but how many you want to buy, Mr. Mahomes? Okay, we'll, we'll do this instead of charging, we'll give you to them for what we bought them for. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but I mean, Lamar got, like I said, Lamar got his lineman Rolexes. Also, I saw Booger McFarlane tweeted, Talk about DBS. When y'all gonna get something for the D lineman? Y'all can't cover without, without us, bro. I, I, I, I don't, I don't, I don't know what to tell you about that book. I think you. First of all, book, you don't even play no more. You should have thought about that when you was in the league. You can't even talk about rc. RC ain't in the league either. But I'm trying to think. Have I, have I ever heard of dbs getting something for the D line? No, I haven't.
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Unknown
No.
- [59:00]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I mean, I don't know. Maybe Ray got something for Goose and Big Sam for his first mvp. I don't, I don't, I don't remember. I don't know. But rest his soul, Goose. Yeah, but those quarterbacks. But see, Ocho, hell, I'm making 50, 60 million plus another probably 5, 10 off the field because you, I mean, my home might be doing 15, 20 million in endorsements off the field.
- [59:25]
Unknown
Oh, yeah.
- [59:26]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So he might be bringing home 70 million a year. Well, hell, yeah. What I care about dropping five. A half a million to a million dollars on. On my line?
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Unknown
Yeah, that, that ain't nothing.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. According to Adam Schefter, Pete Carroll has expressed interest in the Chicago Bears head coaching job and would like to return to the sideline next season. Three teams, the Bears, the Jets, the Saints, are in the market for a head coach who can help reset their culture. Few coaches have had it more effective than Carolyn doing that. Carol is one of the four head coaches that led teams to both national championships and Super Bowls. Barry, Switzerland, Jimmie Johnson, and Jim Harbaugh. I like Pete, but not in Chicago. They need an offensive. They need, look, they can get a defensive, but he has to go scour and get for a college, maybe even a college oc Right. That's creative, that knows how to work with the skill set of what Caleb Williams possessed. He can't go get one of those conventional guys that he had in Seattle. That ain't gonna work.
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Unknown
You know what I think? Now we talk about the Chicago job, and I like what you said about Pete Carroll, who is A players coach. I think the coach, I mean, the players will gravitate, gravity gravitate towards him, but you do need Officer Cordier that has the creativity that can help Caleb Williams use some of, use his skill set to his ability, you know, and what he's able to do another, another job. Now, we talked about Mike McCarthy, right?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Unknown
Just talked about the other night, Ben Johnson. What you think about this? Ben Johnson, Dallas Cowboys.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, I like that.
- [61:06]
Unknown
You know, I haven't heard his, I heard his name mentioned before, but it was never with the Cowboys. I think Ben Johnson would be the perfect fit for the Cowboys and working with Dak and bringing some of that creativity that he does over there in Detroit. Now, he doesn't have the same personnel to be able to do some of the things he did, but based on what you have and what he knows, he has, the strengths and the weaknesses of the players on that team, I think you can do some damage as that head coach. Hell, matter of fact, head coach and offensive coordinator keep calling the players there in Dallas, too, if the opportunity presents itself.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So, yeah, Pete is out, obviously. He left Seattle last year. They got Mike McDonald, who was the former defensive coordinator of the Baltimore Ravens. Zach Orr took over that job. John Harbaugh has a nice little tree. I mean, he got Mac McDonald as a head coach. Zach. Or the defensive coordinator, Anthony Weaver, who was in Baltimore. He's the d, uh, the DC at, uh, Miami. Uh, so, uh, John Harbaugh put together a nice little staff, but Pete Carroll is interested in getting back into the NFL. Coach. Coach Harbaugh. Coach Belichick seems like he might be only on the sidelines at North Carolina for one year because he has a $1 million buyout after one season. But you see what ojo. You see how I did that? My son's a defensive coordinator, and then if I step away, he gets to be coaching, waiting. See how he did that? Now, I want to know, I want to know what they call that, because I know a lot of people was.
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Unknown
Up with n. It started with the end, if I'm not mistaken.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, Yeah. I ain't heard nobody say a word. Ain't nobody mention nothing about Nepo autism. I ain't even heard nobody say anything about baptism.
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Unknown
Right? I, I, I know one thing I like. I like what Belichick is doing, too. Now, there have been very many rumblings when there were, when there were job openings as head coaches in the NFL. Did you notice every team that did a hire, how young the coach was? You understand what I Mean, now, you talked about it. We talked about it. And I said, I think this is a good thing for Belichick to go to North Carolina because this is what it's going to show the people. It's going to show the owners in the NFL. Listen, I was one of the greatest coaches of all time. Matter of fact, I am the greatest coach of all time. My coaching ways might be a little outdated for today's era, and I might not be able to relate to or resonate with the young players. I'm going to go to North Carolina. I'm going to show you that I can be a leader of young men. I can resonate with this era and the younger kids of this generation and win and build a nice program, letting owners know that I want back in the NFL because I can relate to and coach these young players of this generation as well.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. But I'm just saying I don't see the outrage, because there's a lot of outrage. You know, if you notice when they do it, don't nobody from that culture talking about this nepotism. That's only us. Now, we'll talk about. We'll talk about it, but we talk about us. Oh, bro. They call that the. Brought the bronnie. You see what he did? They do it all the time. Andy Reid had his sons on his staff coaching. Coach Belichick had his son on his staff coaching. But somehow we feel bad if we give our homeboy. Who you go look at the staff, look at Mike. Look at Sean McVeigh. Look at Mike McDaniels. Look at LaFleur. Now look at where they were they with Shanahan. Look how many guys on that staff keep it going. But they make us feel bad. No, our culture make us feel bad. If we give somebody like us an opportunity.
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Unknown
Listen, we the only ones do that, though. We don't. We're not everybody. So we don't want to put everybody a good percentage, though, huh? Yes, good percentage.
- [65:01]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But I mean, if, if. No, I ain't gonna put my son in position if that's not what he want to do. Right, But Steve Belichick wants to coach. Okay. You want to coach. Oh, you so happens I'm a coach. Come on. My son wanted to be in media. This is what you want to do. Come on.
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Unknown
Right.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Not what he wants to do. I don't got no problem. Good. It's okay when they do it. It's a problem when we do it.
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Unknown
Yeah. You know, they, they, they. You know us. It's always it's always going to be something. It's always going to be something. Anytime it comes to talking about getting ahead in any way, you know, and it doesn't. It doesn't benefit the next person. You know how it is.
- [65:49]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But how? I mean, I want us to win. I really do, Ocho. I want us, the community, I want everybody to win. But am I biased towards my community? Damn right. Because I grew up in that community. And I think there's some things that we can do and we should do, but we've got to stop this. Anytime someone becomes successful in our community, think they did something seedy or undermined it or underhanded to get that, oh, he sold his soul. They don't other. I've never heard somebody say the Kelsey sold, they sold. I've never heard. They don't say what. Peyton Manning got a billion dollar company and ain't nobody said he sold his soul. Me and you got a little thing, man. Uncle sold his soul. You notice that Peyton man, he got a billion dollar company after making 300 million plus in the NFL. And not one person has ever said pat man is sold his soul. Tom Brady get 3,400 million dollars. Not one person said Tom Brady. So I wonder what he had to do to get his get that job. Now I need y'all to jump in the chat and tell me why.
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Unknown
You know why.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, no, no, no. I want to hear him say it. Because it seems like anytime we do something. What about hard work? So what did I do to get to the NFL? I sold my soul.
- [67:04]
Unknown
Discipline.
- [67:07]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Y'all should see how I approach what I do. Now. Can you imagine how maniacal I was when I played to get to that right? That's not an accident. It's not an accident, ocho. There are two people from the same house of 3,500 people in a town make it to that. That's not an accident. Yeah, but I just. I'm like. I mean, you should think like hell. The way I look at anything, Ocho, if I see somebody do it, I can do it. You did it.
- [67:41]
Unknown
Oh, yeah.
- [67:42]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But what they only so they only did it. They only what? They stopped making. They stopped giving job people opportunities to do something because you did it. Hell, no. I don't think I'm better than anybody, ojo. I don't. I've never felt because, oh, I could play football. I'm better than you or I'm in this situation. I'm better than you do. I think I could do my job better than you do your Job. Yeah, right. I do, yeah, yeah, I do feel.
- [68:08]
Unknown
You should feel that way. Most definitely you should feel that way.
- [68:13]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But we go, we go, we go, we gonna get this, we go. We're gonna be able to pull our money, we're gonna pull our money together. I got John Hope, Brad. I did a speaking forum for him and I'm gonna have him, I'm gonna, he gonna come on and give us some. He, he, man, I mean, just sit down and talk to him. Ocho boy. He, he, he, he got his stuff together.
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Unknown
Wait, who, who?
- [68:38]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
John Hope, Right?
- [68:40]
Unknown
Okay, okay, okay.
- [68:41]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You probably see him. I mean he got social media. No, he gotta say he has form. And I'm talking about the big companies, I'm talking about the sale forces, the Deltas, the Googles that everybody, right? And, and to, to invest in how you build your credit score and how you, how you, you build a business and how you, you know, you invest and, and watch it grow over time. That's how you create wealth and then generational wealth. And so we're going to have this in 25. We're going to have him come on a couple times and talk. And so hopefully people tune in and, and get some valuable, some valuable insights of how, how to invest. Look, everybody, it's hard to accumulate wealth when you don't have money, right? And we've got to stop the money that we have. If, if you have a car that's more valuable than the money that you got in your savings account, there's a problem. Come on, that's a mofo problem. As he said it, he said he was telling the story like, look, if your assets is on your ass, that's a problem.
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Unknown
And that's a good one.
- [69:56]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You know what I'm saying? Don't Joe. And a lot, a lot of times people like, bro, how you driving up and, and, and, and, and with a nice car, you still apartment.
- [70:07]
Unknown
You gotta understand, it's about image. It's about image. It's about looking to par. It's about looking as if you have it. Because if you look like you got it, then you're able to get what it is you're attracting. Because when it comes to every. Everything is visual.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes, we are visual.
- [70:23]
Unknown
Think about social media. Everything is about visual. If I look like I got it, then I could attain some of the things that I'm attracted to. It's easy. It's easy. You just got to look like it. Rent your car, get you some nice clothes, put on some nice shoes, put you some chains.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
On.
- [70:41]
Unknown
Okay. He looked like he got it. I'm gonna keep a chance, Ojo. Yeah.
- [70:46]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
A cow Payne said, you and I sold our souls. He had the laughing emojis up there.
- [70:59]
Unknown
Okay. Okay.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But. Yeah, but we're gonna have him on to talk some. Some financial literacy, you know, get money. And I said, ash, as in 2015, I met this guy, and this guy said, shannon, I want to give you an opportunity.
- [71:18]
Unknown
Yeah.
- [71:19]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
At the time, Bitcoin. He said, we can do, like, 10 coins. And because I know you, I'll let you have the coins for 250A coin.
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Unknown
Huh?
- [71:31]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You see, I'm sitting here tapping my fingers.
- [71:34]
Unknown
Yeah.
- [71:34]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I think the coin is not, what, like, a hundred thousand a coin? This was in 2015. Ocho had a good. If I had to. Go ahead, take it over. It ain't no more Uncle Nocho. It's the Ocho Show. Oh, God of here. I will hit one of these, O Joe. I will hit one of these. I don't let a couple go. I don't let Netflix.
- [72:03]
Unknown
You know, you don't know what the funny thing about it is.
- [72:05]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [72:06]
Unknown
It only take this. This many times to hit.
- [72:09]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. I don't let a chance to get Netflix, when it was $2, had an opportunity to get Google. Had an opportunity to get bitcoin. I'm gonna get one of these right one day, y'all. Now, I ain't gonna tell y'all which one, but there'll be signs that Shannon came into a large sum of money. There will be signs maybe it might be the farm of miniature cows that I have. Maybe I don't know what it is, but you. Damn, man, did y'all hear? Unc bought a farm with a thousand many cows.
- [72:47]
Unknown
A thousand?
- [72:48]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, that. No. And all of a sudden, man, man, man, I heard Unc got some. Yeah, got like, 15 dolls now. So there'll be signs that Unc have come into a sum of money. I ain't gonna say nothing. I ain't gonna mention anything about it, but if you see me, that's what's gonna happen. The volume.
- [73:23]
Shannon Sharpe
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
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Shannon Sharpe
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
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Shannon Sharpe
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
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Shannon Sharpe
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
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Shannon Sharpe
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Unknown
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
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Shannon Sharpe
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