Nightcap - Hour 1: LeBron reaches 50k points, Kyrie tears ACL, Mavs fans upset

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Nightcap - Hour 1 Summary

Release Date: March 8, 2025
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson

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1. LeBron James Reaches 50,000 Points

[04:43] Shannon Sharpe:
Shannon begins the discussion by celebrating LeBron James' monumental achievement of reaching 50,000 career points. He highlights LeBron's evolving role on the court, especially with the addition of Luka Doncic.

Key Points:

• LeBron's Evolving Role: Shannon posits that if LeBron had a trusted partner like Luka to handle the ball, he could further enhance his scoring efficiency and overall gameplay.

  [05:04] Shannon Sharpe:
  "Imagine LeBron at 25 and 30 with Luka handling the offense. LeBron can focus solely on scoring, potentially pushing his career points even higher."

• Potential for Longevity: Both hosts express optimism about LeBron's ability to extend his career, possibly surpassing 50,000 points.

  [06:15] Ochocinco:
  "I really don't think we're going to see somebody else get to 50,000 points."

2. Kyrie Irving Tears ACL

[28:40] Shannon Sharpe:
The conversation shifts to Kyrie Irving's recent ACL tear during a game against the Dallas Mavericks. Shannon expresses concern over Kyrie's injury and its impact on the Mavericks' playoff aspirations.

Key Points:

• Impact on the Mavericks: With Kyrie's injury, the team's performance suffers, pushing them further away from securing a playoff spot.

  [29:33] Ochocinco:
  "Kyrie can run the offense, set things up, and lead the team. Without him, it's a lot to ask."

• Hope for Recovery: Both hosts hope for Kyrie's speedy recovery, emphasizing the importance of his role in the team.

  [32:12] Shannon Sharpe:
  "Hopefully, it's just a little tweak, a couple of days of rest and ice, and Kyrie will be back on the court."

• Shannon's Personal Touch: Shannon shares his own experiences with injuries, drawing parallels to Kyrie's situation.

  [51:18] Shannon Sharpe:
  "I wore stockings and had my knees drained every week. I understand the pain and the sacrifices athletes make."

3. Mavericks Fans Upset About Luka Doncic Trade and Ticket Price Hikes

[34:02] Ochocinco:
The hosts delve into the Dallas Mavericks' recent decisions, including trading away Luka Doncic and raising season ticket prices by approximately 9%. Shannon criticizes the Mavericks' management for seemingly being out of touch with fan sentiments.

Key Points:

• Trade of Luka Doncic: Shannon questions the rationale behind trading Luka, highlighting his ascendant performance and popularity among fans.

  [35:25] Shannon Sharpe:
  "Luka didn't show any regression; he was only improving. Trading him away and then raising ticket prices is disrespectful to the fans."

• Ticket Price Increase: The Mavericks' decision to raise ticket prices despite the controversial trade has fueled fan outrage.

  [34:48] Ochocinco:
  "The Mavericks are out of touch. They've traded away a superstar and then ask fans to pay nearly double for season tickets."

• Fan Sentiment: The hosts share fan perspectives, emphasizing that loyalty is tested when key players are traded and prices rise.

  [38:33] Ochocinco:
  "Fans are already struggling with inflation and rising costs. Trading Luka and then increasing ticket prices is the last straw."

• Competitive Landscape: Shannon compares the Mavericks' strategy to other NBA franchises, emphasizing the necessity of retaining superstars to maintain fan engagement and ticket sales.

  [38:59] Shannon Sharpe:
  "In the NBA, it's all about superstars. Without them, teams struggle to fill seats and generate excitement."

Notable Quotes:

• Shannon Sharpe on LeBron's Potential:
  "[05:04] Imagine LeBron at 25 and 30 with Luka handling the offense. LeBron can focus solely on scoring, potentially pushing his career points even higher."

• Ochocinco on Mavericks' Ticket Prices:
  "[34:48] The Mavericks are out of touch. They've traded away a superstar and then ask fans to pay nearly double for season tickets."

• Shannon Sharpe on Fan Loyalty:
  "[35:25] Luka didn't show any regression; he was only improving. Trading him away and then raising ticket prices is disrespectful to the fans."

Conclusions:

Shannon Sharpe and Ochocinco provide a comprehensive analysis of the current NBA landscape, focusing on the remarkable achievements of LeBron James, the unfortunate injury of Kyrie Irving, and the contentious decisions made by the Dallas Mavericks. They emphasize the importance of superstar players in maintaining team performance and fan loyalty, while also highlighting the delicate balance teams must navigate between management decisions and fan expectations.

For listeners who want to stay updated on these discussions and more, tune into future episodes of Club Shay Shay on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or your preferred podcast platform.

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Transcript

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Ochocinco]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Ochocinco]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Ochocinco]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Julie Stewart-Banks]

What's up everyone? Julie Swearbanks here, along with former NHL player Nate Thompson.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We're doing a new podcast together. Here we go.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

The name Energy Line with Nate and jsb.

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Exactly, and you'll never know who will drop by to join us.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Julie is pretty well connected. She has text threads going that you wouldn't believe.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Listen to Energy Line with Nate and jsb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Ochocinco]

Yes sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now we go back and says, you know what if LeBron had somebody he trusted and he didn't have to have the rock in his hand and he can do what he doing now. Spot up. He can get to the high. He can get to the high point, the high. Picket roll. Or he could whatever he can slash, he can cut. You see what he's doing at 40.

[Ochocinco]

Oh yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So imagine LeBron at 25 and 30 and he has a Luca that he doesn't have to worry about setting him up. He doesn't have to worry about running the offense. Luca can do everything that LeBron does, and LeBron gets to focus on just this.

[Ochocinco]

Yes. Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What do you think his numbers would have been? So now he doesn't have to worry about facilitating. Now his assist total might be a little lower because he's not going to have the ball in his hand. Primarily that's going to go to Luca.

[Ochocinco]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you see scoring and the. And the percentage in which he's shooting. Go back and look at since Lucas arrived. Look at his three point field goal percentage. Look at his field goal percentage. Look at his point total.

[Ochocinco]

That's crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Everything has increased. Because you know what? A lot has been taken off of his plate. Ocho, he doesn't have to worry about facilitating for everybody. He doesn't have to worry about all that other stuff. He can just say, luca, you have that. Let me, hey, let me get like three run outs a game, right? Let me get a couple of dives to the baskets. I hit a couple of threes, hell, that damn near 20 right there. But it's been unbelievable to watch.

[Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And like I said, I'm old enough to remember a lot of the great players. I saw magic. Never saw. I saw magic in person. One, but most of the time, I mean, to see Bird and Magic and Akeem and all these great players and now the step, courage, the KDs and all that stuff, to see these guys play LeBron, Kobe, Shaq, I don't think we're gonna see somebody else get 50,000. Ocho, I really don't. 50,000 right now, plus Ocho, here's what we're saying. We're under the assumption, huh, we're under the assumption that he stops playing. Who's to say this thing is not going to be 52, 53,000.

[Ochocinco]

Yeah, he can keep going, especially with Luke at the helm now, you know, Luka could take it, take all the pressure.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, he could easily play another two, three. Oh, yeah, he could easily play another two to three years.

[Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The question is, he says, keeping his mind sharp because he's been social, that routine. And I don't believe Savannah is putting the pressure on like, hey, baby, you need to come home. Blah, blah, blah.

[Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He like, no, because you're like, hey, bro, I know what you like. When you, when you home, you gonna be moody as hell. So I can see LeBron legitimately Ocho, I can see him playing another two to three years.

[Ochocinco]

Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And I wouldn't be surprised if that were to happen. But at the level that he's playing at, he's playing at extremely high level, and it's great to see. OO Kevin Durant and coach Bud got into it last night. Check this interaction out. OO during the time out early in the game, Coach Bud Hoser grabbed KD's arm in an apparent attempt to pull him in for a conversation, but KD pulled his arm away. Then they engaged in a brief animated conversation before party ways. KD spoke about it after the game. Let's take a listen to what Katie had to say. Yeah, that's what usually happens when you don't know the dynamics of a relationship. You know, you catch something on tv, you get a quote, and now you pushing that narrative as if me and Bud don't do that all the time. We competitive as two individuals who want to see things done the right way. And sometimes my way ain't the way that Bug want to do it and vice versa. And he allows me as a player on the team, a veteran on the team, to voice my opinion. If I, if we both didn't care, we would never have stuff like that. You know what I'm saying? So I am glad that the win is going to sweep all that stupid stuff under the rug because they couldn't. People couldn't wait. Even some people in Phoenix in here couldn't wait to run with that, you know, and so this is, this is the reason why the team ain't playing well because of that specific thing. But come on, man, that shows that me and Bud really care about trying to right this ship and trying to win basketball games. So he understands where I'm coming from. I understand exactly where he coming from. It's just people on the outside don't know the dynamics of the relationship. So, you know, in order for them to get some attention, they're gonna run with stuff like that. You heard it?

[Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He says, hey, sometimes I see things one way but don't see it that way. Right. Sometimes Bud see things one way. I don't see it that way. We had difference of agree. We had a difference of opinions. And hey, he cares. I care. We trying to get this ship righted. And. And he's right. I mean, look, they make it seem like that's never happened before. I've seen coaches and players, they shove each other and all curse, all that kind of stuff. It happens. You get two animated testosterone, testosterone Driven men that I believe what I'm saying is right. He believes what he's saying is right. Two people can't be right. Maybe, hey, two things can be true. Maybe you're right and maybe he's right. But at that point in time, we don't see it that way. I want you to see my point of view, right? Nah, bro. I need you to see my point of view.

[Ochocinco]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I don't know what happened, But I know KD went crazy in the fourth quarter and they was down 23 and they won the game. That's what I do know.

[Ochocinco]

Listen, the funny thing about it with the Suns. Listen, when you're losing, everything is magnified. When you're losing the way they are, even though they won that specific game, everything is magnified. Unless you played organized sports in a structured environment, you another. You'll never understand that dynamic. You'll never understand it that goes on all the time, especially when it comes to a player of that magnitude. That's great. And you have a coach and the coach wants to see you do your best, or if you're not playing to your full potential, they gonna get on you just like that. Yep, that happens. Not just at the. At the.

[Shannon Sharpe]

At the.

[Ochocinco]

At the elite level with NBA players, NFL players. It starts even when you're young. The problem that you got to worry about is when you have a coach that cares about you and he stops talking to you and he doesn't try to correct you. He's. He's not on your head and trying to get you to do things the right way, that mean he doesn't care. So when I see, as a former athlete, stuff like that happen, it resonates with me because I've been in that situation before with Hugh Jackson getting on me on the sideline, of course, because I'm trying my hardest. Hey, I fire back, you know, I talk back a little bit, but, you know, Hugh, man, Hugh will grab me by the neck, man, don't play with me. Yeah, not today.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hugh from Compton.

[Ochocinco]

Hey, you don't play.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, man, you a damn fool. You good people, but you good people. I like you. But you know what, Ocho? You're right. You're absolutely right. With a lot of times, like, you know, in the heat of the battle, you forget. Like, man, I. Man, I shouldn't do this in front of all these people because there's 70, 80,000 people watching and there's cameras everywhere.

[Ochocinco]

You forget.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Sometime, though, you do forget. You. You absolutely forget. I always tried to be mindful you know? Hey, let's get this behind closed door. I'm just gonna give you a look.

[Ochocinco]

You mean like that look you gave me when you thought I was late on first date? Like that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, hey, hey. Nah, that was. That would like. Like coaches like. Hey, bro, look here. I won't allow you to say anything to me. Mary Porter didn't say right. Airport ain't never called me no more foe. She ain't never called me no SOB So now if you think you can call me that now. You know what? I'm gonna take this uniform off. I'm gonna whip your ass. Cause I know I ain't gonna be here. But all that. All that. All that stupid. You know what? I don't play that. Nah, give me that. Cause nah, I don't. I don't play like that, Ocho. I don't. So we had a. We just had. I had a great understanding. Hey, bro, don't. Hey, come on, now.

[Ochocinco]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't your kid. I got kids. You got kids. I got kids. You just can't talk to me any kind of way.

[Ochocinco]

You gotta do it the right way.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Trust me. Tell me what I did wrong. I'm not gonna make that same mistake twice. But you're not gonna call me dumb. You know you stupid. Oh, no, no, no, no. I can't get that like that. I ain't. I ain't fit to hold you. Y'all. We talk about sensitive all you want to, but I. I'm big. I'm huge on respect.

[Ochocinco]

Respect? Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I give it to everybody. I give. I. I believe every man or woman deserves a certain level of respect.

[Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now, when that level of respect dissipates, it's best that you and I go our separate ways. That's okay. We don't look. We. And there's sometimes, Ocho, like, when you on a team, you ain't gonna get along with everybody.

[Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, you do your thing. I'm gonna do my thing on this field. Hey, when the whistleblowers try to go out certain ways. Yeah. Walk up by the locker room a.

[Ochocinco]

Like, I don't even know you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

There it is. There it is. Yeah, there it is. All this. Man, you ain't. Bro. He was a teammate. You not. You not buddy. Buddy with everybody that's on your team. You buddy. Buddy with everybody in your work office. Y'all go out to lunch and do happy hour, go to each other's crib. No, that's. I mean, some. Some guys are close like that, Ocho.

[Ochocinco]

They are yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Some guys not. This ain't college where you see it. You know what I'm saying? I will pass the guy in the hallway and going to class, or he might be in the same class, bro. A lot of these guys, they got families, they got kids, and y'all, you know, we. We on different wavelengths, and that's okay. We just trying to do the same when we at work. Hopefully we got the same goal, Ojo. To try to win as many games we possibly can.

[Ochocinco]

That's it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Once you go home.

[Ochocinco]

Done deal.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, but I'm not making too. I'm not making too much out of it with the KD interaction has happened. Like I said, I've seen coaches. Hey, coaches and players, man. I see the. Out of college. I've seen basketball player beat the basketball coach so down we had to go pull him up off him. Would I say he beat him down, Ocho, when I say he beat him down, right?

[Ochocinco]

He must have said something slick, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know what he said. And. Cause, you know, hey, you know, I'm looking at the bathroom. Where did I see him arguing, right? Cause I ain't never seen. Look, I've seen players and coaches argue in that setting.

[Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

On the football field, on the basket. Okay, that's one thing. But, bro, we not. We not in that environment. We're not on the football field. We're not on the basketball court.

[Ochocinco]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you. You argue with me like we just two ninjas in the street, right? So I like. But damn, I said, man, let me go on down there for something pop off. So I go down there. I'm just, you know, I'm. It ain't got nothing to do with me, so I really shouldn't be the next thing I know. Oh, Joe. I believe. Okay, you probably asked for it, because, first of all, you don't live on campus. For you to bring your ass back on campus after practice is over to come back up here in front this, man, you probably was getting what you deserved where I intervened when he started kicking and putting feet on him. Oh, I said, no, I can't let you do that.

[Ochocinco]

Yeah, you gotta go get him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I had to get. I had to get him up off him. And they're like, bro, now look here, coach, go ahead on now. Cause if I turn this man loose after I done got him up off.

[Ochocinco]

You, that's on you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's on you now. Hey. I said, hey. I called mother. I said, hey, man. Man, get. Get coach up out of here. Ocho, when I Say he whipped him.

[Ochocinco]

Yeah. Hold on. So that was the coach? That the player was part of the team?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Ochocinco]

Hold on. Was the player allowed to remain on the team after that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Oh, he played a couple of. I think he ended. I think he ended up leaving on his own, but he didn't kick him off, if I'm not mistaken. I think it was the coach fault.

[Ochocinco]

Okay. So he must have been a star player.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He was. He wasn't a star player, but he was a good player. He was a decent player.

[Ochocinco]

Okay, okay, okay, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But my thing is, if I'm a coach. Here's the thing.

[Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If you let a puppy lick you in the mouth, you better be careful. Cause he gonna grow up to be a dog. And he'll bite you, man. Boy, when you.

[Ochocinco]

Hold on. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Boy, that was a good one. Now, right? You know, I don't. I don't go nowhere without it now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ochocinco]

If you let. If you let.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let a puppy lick you in the mouth, he'll grow up and bite you when he become a dog. See, if you put yourself on that level. See, the problem that the coach had is that he put himself on that level to be with the player. So the player no longer looked at him as the coach.

[Ochocinco]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He looked at him as like. Like a. A karma, like another player.

[Ochocinco]

Let a puppy lick you in the mouth.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So that's why. That's Ocho. That's why with kids, you stay up here, Ocho, you don't say, oh, that's my friend. Oh, that's my best friend. Me and my daughter, me and my son. We like free. We like best friends. Ain't no we not. No, no, we not. I tear your ass up. Make some noise. For the greatest shooter of all time, Steph Curry. We went live from All Star Weekend for a new podcast called Go Greatest of Their Era. And we ranked our top five shooters from the 2000s.

[Ochocinco]

Peja 5. Dirk Ford.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Peja is elite.

[Ochocinco]

Okay, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm mad him. I left him off my list, but.

[Ochocinco]

I still like my list.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You won't believe who Steph left off his list.

[Ochocinco]

That's so tough. That's why we have these conversations.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, absolutely.

[Ochocinco]

Love it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Steph talked about what separates the truly elite NBA shooters.

[Ochocinco]

When you have a scouting report and you're on the list as not just a shooter, but we have specific rules for how we guard you. There's a fear factor that's associated with it. Anytime you're wide open, like, you might as well, just count that and get on back on defense.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Listen to Goat G o T e greatest of their era on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

It's Julie Stewart Banks. I'm doing a new podcast from iHeart Podcasts and the National Hockey League and I'm paired up with one of my favorite players, the always quotable Nate Thompson.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I wore nine NHL sweaters and I have story after story to share. And believe it or not, I have plenty to say, and not just about hockey.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Believe me, he does. Energy Line with Nate and JSB is the name of the podcast and it's going to be, well, it's going to be quite the ride. We're officially linemates, Nate. We're the Energy Line.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We'll have plenty of folks join us, current players, some of my former teammates, hall of Famers, and wait till you see some of the connections that you Julie has. She has quite the Rolodex.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Okay. We'll lean into Nate's playing experience and tap into our interests away from hockey and try to do what energy lines are supposed to do. Provide an emotional boost. How do you feel about all that, Nate?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm vibing, Julie. I'm ready to roll.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Listen to Energy Line with Nate and jsb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, this is Mel Reed, LPGA Tour winner and six time ladies European Tour.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Winner and Kyra K. Dixon, NBC Sports reporter and host.

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Julie Stewart-Banks]

We are bringing you spicy takes on sports and pop culture, some golf haps and interviews with incredible people who have figured out how to make golf their.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Superpower or just people we like. Plus tales from the road and everything in between. By the way, golf isn't just for the dads, brads and chads.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Yeah, it's actually, actually life's cheat code. And we're not going to be quiet about it on or off the course. We're bringing on some of our friends like Michelle We, Heather McMahon, Amanda Baliotis.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So if you want to keep up with us, and here is yap, tune.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Into our new podcast, Listen to Quiet Please with Mel and Kira, an iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iheart Women's Sports hey, you guys, I'm Katherine Legge. I'm a racing driver who's literally driven everything with four wheels across the planet. And I've got a new podcast. It's called Throttle Therapy. This season, I'm gearing up to make history, competing in some of the world's most notorious racing events, starting at the Indy 500. Join me as I travel from racetrack to racetrack in my quest to continue a memorable career in racing. I'm also going to bring you inside stories with legends of sports, new faces from the next generation of auto racing, and conversations with the people who've supported me throughout my career. We'll be getting into everything from karting to nascar, even Formula One. Whether you dream about being a pro athlete or an astronaut, we're talking about what it takes to make it. Listen to Throttle Therapy with Katherine Legg, an iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jeannie Buss says Anthony Davis wasn't happy. We have. We. We have lost the last three years in a row to the Denver Nuggets in the playoffs, and we really didn't have anything that was going to look different going into the playoffs. Again, Anthony Davis was complaining about where he's being played, and he wasn't happy. So I think this was a positive for both teams. They got what they were looking for, and we got what we were looking for. Ocho.

[Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do you believe that was fair for Jeannie to say?

[Ochocinco]

I mean, no. I mean. Well, kind of. Kind of to give him a reason, remember?

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you like. You like for people, to be honest. You like for people. Hey, listen, that what you say.

[Ochocinco]

I like for him to be honest. That was very transparent. That is why. That's why the deal was made. Listen, 8080 wasn't happy. Obviously, he didn't show any type of emotion. He didn't. He didn't show that. Any signs him of him being unhappy, especially on the court. He went out there and did what he was supposed to do. But if you. If you're not happy and you keep things behind closed doors internally, this is what you get. They give you your wish. Now you got your wish. Just so happened that Luca became available and it worked in the Lakers favor. Okay, you not happy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look, we're gonna do your.

[Ochocinco]

We gonna. We gonna do your solid, young bull. We're gonna see you over to Dallas and Luka gonna come over here and both parties are happy. I'm sure, I'm sure he's happy now. Well, I mean outside of being injured, outside of being injured.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Me and I'm try to be like. AD wasn't asking you to go get enjoyed and beat in a cola. Jokic.

[Ochocinco]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Just give him an able bodied person, right. So he can slide to the four a little big. And then the last five minutes of the game. Yeah, I'll play the five.

[Ochocinco]

Okay. He don't like being down.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You look at AD's best years, he had it with Boogie.

[Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Boogie was at the five.

[Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

AD was at the four. If you go back and look at Javale McGee at the five, Dwight Howard at the five, AD at the four. But when it came down to crunch time, AG slid, AD slid to the five. And a lot of times LeBron was the four man. But he played the point. That was OJ. But here the, here's the kicker, Ocho. In order for this deal to get consummated, AD had to waivers, no trade clause.

[Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Everything she's. Everything Jeannie Buss said could be true.

[Ochocinco]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But considering the man could have held this thing up and Nico probably takes this deal to somebody else. Just keep that behind closed doors.

[Ochocinco]

Okay? Okay. Okay. Well listen, at this point this is good. Maybe, maybe we get more owners being transparent and being honest and coming out and say, well, this individual wasn't happy. So we granted them exactly what they wanted and ain't nothing wrong with that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It probably would. It's hard for me now, it's hard for me to see a scenario, Ocho, where this wasn't conveyed to them at some point in time, in the process, ahead of time. Yes. I'm going to come when he was at the Pelicans, right? Yes, for sure.

[Ochocinco]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, for sure. Because if you go back, if you go back and look at it, they had Javale McGee and Dwight Howard, right? AD's first year there, they won the championship and you blow that up. Why, why would you not? And I get it. I mean, like I said, I don't think AD was asking for a. I need a top five center. He just needs somebody that could eat up the minutes so he doesn't wear himself down trying to bang with Yoke. Trying to bang with him. Be trying to bang with those big bodies. Let those guys. Now the last five minutes. I got you.

[Ochocinco]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Don't even worry about it. I got you the last five. Let me add it. I don't really think, I don't really think that's a bad thing to say. Yeah, he said it on several occasions his last interview. I don't know if it was Dave McMenamin or Sean's, but he said, you know, hey, I would like to have a five. I think that's all we missing five. Let me slide the four. The last five minutes of the game. I got it.

[Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. I just think the thing is, for me, me personally, like I said, hey, everybody's entitled toward their opinion. I think with ADB in his class as he was, because he could have held it up and said, no, I ain't waving my trade clause. I came to la, I'm gonna stay in la.

[Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And then now Lucas may be somewhere so the trade doesn't happen. Now you get a bona fide superstar for the next 10 years right in Luca. So I, like I said, I just. Some situations. Ocho, it is okay, it is okay for you to just sit on the truth. It. It doesn't hurt anybody if she keeps this, Ocho, is anybody harmed if she keeps this? Because what. The way she says it, it makes it seem like. Well, we were kind of looking to trade AD because he was starting to complain and it became, started to become an issue.

[Ochocinco]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You see what I'm saying?

[Ochocinco]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I just think a situation like that just sit on that information, you know it and that's, hey, that's how you feel, right? Got no problem with that. But it's, it's okay if everything is not. Is not brought up. Everything is not mentioned because AD AD has played well. Yeah, he's been, he nicked a couple of times. I mean, but. And it ain't no harm in, in losing to you talking about one of the great players we go, it's gonna all see when it's all said and done, we'll see what Nicola Yokis rank. But y'all make it seem. Who the hell y'all think I mean, the Lakers put some, put somebody out every year. The Celtics were putting people out every year. Jordan was putting people every year. When it's all said and done, Yokage gonna be gonna be up there. He has three MVPs in a four year span. He's probably gonna finish second this year. Who's to say he doesn't win another one or another two or wins another championship. So losing to Nikola Jokic is bad, right? That's like Toronto said, man, every year, man, we, we lost to LeBron. Really? That's what y'all feel bad about losing to LeBron every year.

[Ochocinco]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

A lot of people lost to LeBron or losing the step or losing to one of these other great players over extended period of time. There is nothing wrong with that. Ocho Kyrie was helped to the locker room after an apparent leg injury. He stayed in the game and drain two free throws before leaving the court with Kyrie. The question is, Ocho, you want to put that. The Mavericks game up. Kyrie playing this kind of. And he has to. Ads out. And you traded. And you traded Luca. So now and you out lively and you're without Daniel Gafford. So he's having a long minute try to keep them afloat until AD comes back. But you're putting a lot of. You're putting a lot of. He's got to do an awful lot. He's got to facilitate. He's got a score. That's. That's. That's a lot.

[Ochocinco]

When you think about what he has to do with ADB now to play it like Kyrie, of his. Excuse me, of his caliber, that can. That can run the offing, that can set things up, that can facilitate. That can get hot on any night, especially when he has to score, when the onus is on him to. To lead the way. Kyrie can do that. So when you say it's a lot, it's a lot to ask of him to do. Hey, he's the type of player. He's one of the ones that left Cleveland because he wanted to be the head dog.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right? Right.

[Ochocinco]

So this is your chance. This is the chance.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But he's finding out there's a lot more. There's a lot more going into it. There's a lot more going into it than being the lead dog. Now, yeah, you're gonna score a bunch of points, but at the end of the day, people gonna be looking at you like, bro, what's going on? What about that team? I mean, he's averaging the third most minutes per game in his career, and he's doing it as he's starting to get older. Normally, the minutes decrease. You play, if you go back and look at Kobe, you look at LeBron, you look at Jordan, they're playing 39, 40. I think one year, LeBron played 42 minutes a night. Jordan was up there, Kobe was up there. But as you start getting 30 now, you start coming back. Whoa, whoa. I need to be around somewhere between 35 and 37. What's the average in now? He might be averaging 35, 37. 30 minutes. 37. 37. 30, 36 for. That's a lot of minutes. And here's the thing. There's a difference between playing 36 minutes and you got Luca running shotgun with you playing 36 minutes, and you got A.D. 36 minutes, and you got K.D. harden 36 minutes and you got LeBron. Cause you could be out there on the court for 36 minutes and you can coast. KD gonna get buckets. Harden gonna get me buckets. Luca, go get me buckets. LeBron. AD Bro, when you out there with you, you got to work. You know, sometimes, Ojo, you show up at the job, you. Hey, you just show up. You just there. I ain't doing no work today. I'm talking to everybody. Cause, hey, I know everybody else go do their job. It ain't like that right now with Kyrie, Dallas, and they're trying to do everything they can to kind of stay in the sixth spot. Don't have to do the play in. They avoid to play, you know, if you're in the sixth spot, you avoid to play in. And so they're hopefully. I'm sure they're hoping they can get AD Back at some point in time. Probably have him re evaluated in the next seven to 10 days and see where that goes. But I wish Kyrie a speedy recovery. Hopefully it's nothing serious.

[Ochocinco]

Was it. Was. Did he hyper extend it or did he step on somebody's foot and twist his ankle? Which.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Which one was it?

[Ochocinco]

Yeah, even. Yeah, even. I mean, even. Even on the replay, I still couldn't tell, you know, what had happened, but he could. He couldn't put it. He could put any weight on that foot. It was his right foot, you know, to be exact. I'm thinking with them, the way they helped him off the court, it wasn't a hyperextension. I think he twisted his ankle a little bit, and I'm not even gonna talk about my room.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, he stepped on the guy's ankle and his knee kind of buckled a little bit. That's Valentunas, I think. It wasn't that Valentunas he stepped on. Yeah, he stepped. He stepped on. He stepped on his foot and. Hey, that.

[Ochocinco]

Hey, that's one of those. You're a Hooper when you step on somebody ankle and your eyes are looking up. So you're not. You're not. You're not ready for it. And the foot is already relaxed too. So you getting all. All that, man? Oh, that's feeling.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But hopefully it's nothing major. Hopefully it's just a little. A simple little Tweak, couple of days, rest, some ice, and Kyrie will be able to come back. Because Without Kyrie, they're 32 and 30 right now. Where are they now? They're 10th. They're in the 10th spot. That's the play. That's the last spot for the play in. Yeah, it's not looking good. Which will be even worse for Nico Harris if they. If. Because at one point, they were where they were. I think they were in the fifth or the sixth spot. And now all of a sudden, AD comes in, have so much promise, he goes out, and now you slide and you miss the playoffs. And Luca and them are in the playoffs. They go from seven to two. Yeah.

[Ochocinco]

And Nico Harris gonna look crazy out there, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

He looking crazy as it is. The Dallas Mavericks raised ticket prices, site investments. The Dallas Mavericks revealed that they're raising their season ticket price next season. I think about an average of 8little. Almost 9%. Just weeks after dealing Luca to the Lakers, the Maverick says season tickets will go up by 8.61%, which is about 9%. And the increase is due to ongoing investments in the team and fan engagements. One fan tweeted. Thirty days ago, the Dallas Mavericks traded away their homegrown superstar. Called him fat, and laughed in the fan's face about it. Today, they decided to almost double the prices of my season tickets from the past couple of years. The new ownership is disgustingly out of touch.

[Ochocinco]

Hold on. Not. Not only are they out of touch. Can you. Can you give me a better reason? What team, what business actually raises prices?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, this for next season. Well, even.

[Ochocinco]

Oh, they said, we give you a.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Head up, let you say, like my granny should say, boy, save your pennies up so you can get it.

[Ochocinco]

Oh, they let you know ahead of time. Okay, okay, okay, okay. I would get ready to say, but that's slightly disrespectful.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I. I don't. And look, if they had kept Luca and said, we're going to raise ticket prices, I don't think fans would have had anything to add. Nothing bad to say about that decision, Ocho, because it's Luca. Normally you want to keep your home going. Homegrown guys.

[Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Especially if they want to stay. Because a lot of times they get, you know, you see Zion, he wanted to leave. AD wanted to leave. LeBron ended up leaving KD ended up leaving Russ, left Harden, left Reggie, Jack. I mean, so, so forth. And so the list goes on and on about you getting these guys and then them leaving Luca from all. From everything that I've read and people that was close to him, that knows him, he didn't want to leave Dallas. The fans didn't want him to leave Dallas. Now, if you ask Philly fans, they might not be so disappointed if you trade your El Embiid, considering his injury history and he's missed as many games as he's played. I don't think the fans was disappointed when they traded Ben Simmons considering the regression that they had started to see in his play. Luca, we saw no regression. We only saw ascension in his play. And they traded him. And after you trade him, you have the unmitigated gall, you have the audacity to bring your ass in here and talk about you raising prices. No.

[Ochocinco]

Listen. And you know what? You know what? Also, when Nico Harris makes a move like that, one thing that you can stand on is hoping that whoever you trade for replaces the product that actually left. And it makes the fans forget about the trade based on your production and what you do. But he's been out. And then to say what you say, what's going to happen next year which you're raising prices. Well, here. How about y'all fix next. How about you fix this season first? Fix the product on the corner. Because then we weren't worried about it. We wouldn't have a problem paying for next season if what we wanted and we were getting was on point this year.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, ain't no fixing this year. This is your team moving forward. The question is how soon does AD comes back and what's the severity of Kyrie's injury? Because if both is down for a substantial amount of time, this season is over. This season is over. You're not going to be without four, your top six, seven guys and think you're going to be make the playoffs. That ain't happening. They're. They're. They're a good team. They're not that good. No team could overcome being without, say, a Kyrie ad, a gaffer, a lively. That ain't happening. So the only thing they can hope is hope and pray that within the next seven to 10 days they can come back and they can go on a little run. Cause they're not. It's not like they got a whole lot of game. It's not two months left in the season, Ojo. It's one month left in the regular season and they need to figure this thing out. But it's bro, when you. When, when. First of all, fans, like, we already being pinched. We already being pinched. You see they cutting jobs and inflation and eggs and gas and milk. And these prices are rising. The cost of rate, the cost of a family is rising. And broke. Y'all just traded the person that I wouldn't mind paying $500 a game to come see. Y'all traded him, and now y'all asking me to pay 750? No. Hell no.

[Ochocinco]

Hey, you think about. You think about. Look at the landscape of the NBA, and you think about prices on how much tickets cost. There are two or three players on every team. On every team. I don't care how you. How you look at it, where fans are that put butts in the seats. It's about two or three players that actually put butts in the seats. Regardless of what the price of the tickets are. They make you forget about it. They make you forget about the economy. Because I know what I'm getting once I go watch these boys play.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you need superstars, because in the NBA, look, it's all about a superstar. That's why the Lakers try to move heaven and earth to try to keep them. And for the longest time, they've always had them. They had. I mean, when they was in Minneapolis, they had George Michael, and then when they come to la, they had Baylor and they had Jerry west, and then they make the trade, then they get Wilt, and then a couple of years later, they get Kareem, and then they drafted Magic and they get Bob McAdoo, right? And they draft James Worthy, and then they make the. They get Shaq, and then they make the trade for Kobe, and then they get LeBron to come. That's what the Lakers do. You have to have superstars. People want to see superstars. The best of the best or what they'll do. You'll sell the building out when those superstars come. So when Steph Curry is on coming to your town, it's going to sell out. When LeBron come, it's going to sell out. I mean, when Jordan was in the league, people, team, you already knew Jordan gonna be a sellout. Kobe and Shaq gonna be a sellout. LeBron then was gonna be a sellout. You knew that, bro. I want to sell out my. I want my home game to sell out regardless. Cause we playing. Not that y'all coming. Not that y'all coming. Y'all coming to see somebody else, right?

[Ochocinco]

Hey, can you imagine what the price of tickets were courtside when Kobe were together? Can you imagine what the price. And I know the price is probably extensive now, and I'm sure it's going up since then, but can you imagine.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, especially come playoffs or big game they play San Antonio or they play, you know, they. Who else was was a rival of theirs? Oh, Sacramento was a rival of their. When they had Chris Webb and they had Jay Will. The. The Suns. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But. But now that's crazy boy. Luca. Luca. First game. Yeah.

[Ochocinco]

Which you think was. Huh? Just. Just matter of fact, when you give me the price, of course I right now for a Lakers game use the NFL players number currently right now. Don't tell me the number, just give me an NFL player in jersey number for better content because I don't want to hear the price because it's going to be mad. Don't piss me off.

[Shannon Sharpe]

First of all they got. They got Luca and LeBron. So the tickets are already going to be high giraffe Hoo ha to begin with now. Okay, Think about when his first game he played Dallas. Now it's his old team. Yeah. Everybody wanted to see that. So probably you're probably looking at about closer you go to center court, the more expensive the tickets. You probably was looking at about 25. Probably 25 ticket for center court.

[Ochocinco]

Okay, okay. I thought, I thought it been.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now you go to the playoffs.

[Ochocinco]

Honestly, I thought it been worse than that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, okay, but, but come playoff time, you dealing with the Lakers. I mean you go like some tickets. Oho. You go sit court side. 50 under $2,000. That ain't happening no Laker game.

[Ochocinco]

Nah. And it also depends on the city.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Yeah.

[Ochocinco]

Too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And the food. Now you get everything. You mean you all the food free. But consider what you pay for that ticket.

[Ochocinco]

Right? You know, access.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, because I had season tickets and you made me miss all my games. O.

[Ochocinco]

Wait, how did that make you miss all your games? You could start with you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because you started nightcap.

[Ochocinco]

I listen, I started nightcap. But what you could have done is. Is we could have been a part of a consistent routine of going to the Laker game sitting courtside. You could have sat there and taught me, you know, the intricacies of the game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How am I going to sit. How we going to sit? Court side and we coming on after the game.

[Ochocinco]

What are you talking about? I know Jenny Bus. She would have gave us a private room in the back. We could have set up our nightcap stuff right there after the game in the stadium. Can you imagine? Nobody's doing nothing like that. But anyway, that's just. Just an idea to throw throw at you next year.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I gotta save my pennies. I don't want to work myself. I don't want to do this for the next 10, 15 years.

[Ochocinco]

I didn't told you about saving the past two years. You talk about flying private jets. You flew private telling me you would so you ain't fly private. And I told you it made that way there's no need to waste that kind of money. You can get to the same same place from point A to point B on another airline.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Told me yeah, I want to enjoy myself.

[Ochocinco]

Let me oh, so now you done did a 189.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm enjoying myself. So now I gotta, I gotta save.

[Ochocinco]

I like it. I like who you are. I like, I like the growth now if we can get the growth in other areas and other facets of your life, we gonna be all right. Make some noise for the greatest shooter.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Of all time, Steph Curry. We went live All Star week weekend for a new podcast called Go Greatest of their Era. And we ranked our top five shooters from the 2000s.

[Ochocinco]

Peja 5. Dirk Ford.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Peja is a link. Okay, I'm mad him I left him off my list, but I still like my list. You won't believe who Steph left off his list.

[Ochocinco]

That's so tough. That's why we have these conversations. That's why we absolutely love it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Steph talked about what separates the truly elite NBA shooters.

[Ochocinco]

When you have a scouting report and you're on the list as not just a shooter, but we have specific rules for how we guard you. There's a fear factor that's associated with anytime you're wide open, like, you might as well just count that and get on back on defense.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Listen to Goat G o t e greatest of their era on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Your podcasts, It's Julie Stewart Banks. I'm doing a new podcast from iHeart Podcasts and the National Hockey League, and I'm paired up with one of my favorite players, the always quotable Nate Thompson.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I wore nine NHL sweaters and I have story after story to share. And believe it or not, I have plenty to say. And not just about hockey.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Believe me, he does Energy line with Nate and JSB is the name of the podcast and it's going to be, well, it's going to be quite the ride. We're officially linemates, Nate. We're the energy line.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We'll have plenty of folks join us, current players, some of my former team teammates, hall of Famers, and wait till you see some of the connections that Julie has. She has quite the Rolodex.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Okay, we'll lean into Nate's playing experience and tap into our interests away from hockey and try to do what energy lines are supposed to do, provide an emotional boost. How do you feel about all that, Nate?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm vibing Julie. I'm ready to roll.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Listen to Energy Line with Nate and jsb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, this is Mel Reed, LPGA Tour winner and six time Ladies European Tour.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Winner and Kyra K. Dixon, NBC Sports reporter and host.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You forgot to say all my Miss.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

America, by the way.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And we've got a new podcast, Quiet Please with Mel and Kira.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

We are bringing you spicy takes on sports and pop culture, some golf haps and interviews with incredible people who have figured out how to make golf their.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Superpower or just people we like. Plus tales from the road and everything in between. By the way, golf isn't just for the dads, brads and chads.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Yeah, it's actually life's cheat code and we're not going to be quiet about it on or off the course. We're bringing on some of our friends like Michelle We, Heather McMahon, Amanda Baliotis.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So if you want to keep up with us and here is yap, tune into our new podcast Listen to Quiet.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Please with Mel and Kira, an iHeart women's sports production in person partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey you guys, I'm Katherine Leg. I'm a racing driver who's literally driven everything with four wheels across the planet. And I've got a new podcast. It's called Throttle Therapy. This season I'm gearing up to make history, competing in some of the world's most notorious racing events, starting at the Indy 500. Join me as I travel from racetrack to racetrack in my quest to continue a memorable career in racing. I'm also going to bring you inside stories with legends of sports, new faces from the next generation of auto racing, and conversations with the people who've supported me throughout my career. We'll be getting into everything from karting to nascar, even Formula one. Whether you dream about being a pro athlete or an astronaut, we're talking about what it takes to make it. Listen to Throttle Therapy with Katherine Legg, an iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Iheart Women's Sports, LaMelo Ball is a name to watch on the trade market this summer. Following Luka Doncic's NBA executive around the leaves has expanded their horizon on which potential stars could next to change teams. The availability of Hornets guard LaMelo Ball is one of the stars. Several executive who spoke with hoop hype will be monitoring on the trade market this summer. Ocho, should teams be interested in trading for Lamelo with his injury history?

[Ochocinco]

Oh, see, you know what that. Now, that part now when you say that it made it. It makes every part everybody pause. It makes everybody think you take away his injury history again. Okay, let's say you take away his injury history. Let's talk about what Lamelo Ball does and gives you when he's on the court. He's lights out, huh? He's box office. He's one of those individuals, you know what with the tickets are 800. You know what? I don't mind paying 800 because I know Lamelo Ball is on my team. He's on our team. I know what I get when I'm coming to watch him. I'm gonna get my money's worth. Now, once you factor in his injury history and what happens when he's out time to time. Ah, you know, now, now, now, you, you proceed with caution to the win. Now, that's the bad thing. But listen, anybody can get hurt. It happens. It's the game of basketball. It's not, it's not that much of a buy as a violent sport. It's football. But it's very physical. Injuries are gonna happen especially. And you know, Lamelo's small, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, he was 6, 7, 6, 8, really thin frame. His ankles are fragile. I mean, he might have to go through that with Steph. Remember, Steph was the same way. Steph stayed injured. That's why he got that little man contract. And then he just was able to stay healthy. That might be a situation he might need to reach out to Steph. It's like, Steph, man, how did you. How did you like these ankle injuries? How did you. How did you eventually get over it? Because, man, ain't nothing to play with. You're talking to a guy that had ankle injury. And hell, I thought I was gonna have to retire at 26. Man, my, my stuff was bad. Ocho, you talking about step on somebody ankle? Yeah, I could literally step on somebody ankle and my, it would blow up like a cantaloupe.

[Ochocinco]

That big.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And the worst part was doing it on the road because guess what? I gotta get on the plane and fly back home.

[Ochocinco]

You know what happened when you get in there with that pressure swollen right up?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, I wore those, I wore those, those stockings. You know, I put those on both my legs to keep the swelling down because I swollen. Huh? The white ones. You know those white. But you know, those, those nursing stockings.

[Ochocinco]

Okay. Okay. Yeah, yeah, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I had them things on o man. Cause man, look here. I get on that play, man, my, my knees and ankles swell up because I remember I was in and in Baltimore my last year, Ocho. I got my knee drained every week.

[Ochocinco]

Whoa, wait a minute. Every week. Drain the needle, pull out the first.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The first time I got. The first time I got both of them drained, Ocho, they got about 130 cc's off both ankles. I mean both knees. 130 C. Oh yeah, I know how.

[Ochocinco]

Much you see this?

[Shannon Sharpe]

How did you even practice? They gave me off. I take. Get the. I get my knees drained about three hours before the game. I would ice it, try to keep the swelling down. Then they would, you know, put hot packs, Ocho. So I get, get some, some mobility in there. But I was getting, I was probably getting 30, 40 cc's drawn a game.

[Ochocinco]

Man. But you know what? Let me listen, I, I thank, I thank God for being able to play for a long time with no injuries. You know, I. For as long as I played and as reckless as I played, I got hit really clean. One good time, one, one clean hit in 1112 years. Outside of that was, everything was basically normal. Like, man, listen to some of your passion.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I get something done. They're like, I don't know. I think if, if I shoot it up, could I be able to play right? Shoot it up and you get, shoot it up.

[Ochocinco]

Get that there and go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Both shoulders bad. I separated both shoulders, man. They put about three or four shots in. They put two shots of this with two shots at that one, man. I was doing jumping jack.

[Ochocinco]

Wait a minute. How you separate both shows?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Just old Dave Dorsey. I caught a seven route safety. He was with the Bears. He wanted to tsubo with the Bears. He was with the Cardinals at the time. So he landed on me crack. I hit the ground crack. He landed on top of me crack.

[Ochocinco]

Wait, so you, you did both shoulders at the same time?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Forgot me. Hey. The whole week. Hey, they put that medicine in there.

[Ochocinco]

Yeah. And you was good. Did you, did you wear the horn?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me tell you what I Did Ocho soul. We played. We played the Raiders. And I'm feeling good, too. I feel good, man. We ran a toast crack. We had a forest crack. And it was Ronnie. It was Ronnie. It might have been Ronnie. I push up the corner, the corner retreat. Here come the safety, right? Man, I hit that joke. I forgot, Ocho. I forgot. Cause, you know, normally if you got something hurt, you hit it with the opposite one. Well, both of mine messed up, so I just say hey. So I just say, it is what it is. Wow. Right, Ocho? Tears just start coming down my face. Ah, boy. Hey, boy, that thing, Ocho, I don't know if you ever had that pain, but it feel like electricity go through your body.

[Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah, I know what you smell. It's like a pinched nerve. That pinched nerve. That pinched nerve feeling.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Told y'all did like this here. I said, greek, I'm done. Yes.

[Ochocinco]

After that, it was done.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, he knocked all that medicine out them shoulders. Hell, yeah, I was done after that, man. So. So I understand. Having to deal with injury history for two years straight. I shot up my ankle every week. Sometimes I had to shoot up both of them. It gotten so bad. Ask anybody that was in there. The skin started to come off my.

[Ochocinco]

Ankles from getting it. From getting it shot up so much.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It had completely discolored. Like, I had Villa Ligo. It was, like, as dark as I am, and it was just, like, pure yellow.

[Ochocinco]

Sure.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm talking about, like, white.

[Ochocinco]

And that's funny, people. You talk about stuff like this, and everybody look at the glistening glamour when it comes to athletes. And then you sit down and you're able to hear stories like this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah.

[Ochocinco]

Sacrifices and the thing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And we do it all over again. As broke down as I am, I do it all over again. I'll take my black ass right back out there.

[Ochocinco]

No regress.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, absolutely not. That's like, oh, you look. If you play this game long enough, they're going to be times that you like. Man, I don't know how on Sunday or Monday, Tuesday, I was like, man, I ain't no way in hell I'm going to be able to play Greek. But Greek. Greek and test would always like a sharp. Just. Just think positive. Hey, we got. We don't have to play today. If we had to play today, you probably wouldn't be able to go. But let's say you see how you feel on tomorrow. Let's see how you feel on Thursday. Let's see. They kept that positive. I was like, hey, Sharpie, how you feel, man, I feel better. I think I'm. Hey, I might turn the corner, you know what I'm saying? Ocho? Because I wanted to play Ocho, man, I know. Look, I ain't got to have no 20 year, I ain't no doctor, no lawyer where I can have a 25, 30 year career. I got a finite period of time, right? I'm gonna try to maximize it. And they let me know all, Shannon, you know, you shooting up, blah, blah, long term. I said, bro, bro, let me worry about that in 30 years. Right now I need to get out there. I got people depending on me. The volume Geico's motorcycle expertise gives me the coverage I need.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Ochocinco]

Make some noise for the greatest shooter.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Of all time, Steph Curry. We went live from All Star Weekend for a new podcast called Goat Greatest of Their Era and we ranked our top five shooters from the 2000s.

[Ochocinco]

Peja 5 Dirk Ford.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Paja is a link. You won't believe who Steph left off his list.

[Ochocinco]

That's so tough. That's why we have these conversations.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, absolutely.

[Ochocinco]

Love it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Listen to Goat G O T E Greatest of their era on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, everyone? It's Greg Rosenthal and I'm teaming up with the King of spring, Daniel Jeremiah. He requires me to say that we're going to be bringing you 40s and free agents, the only podcast you'll need this NFL draft season. From DJs, mock drafts to my top one on one, free agents will have it covered for you with all new episodes every Thursday keeping you up to date as we head to the NFL Draft. Listen to 40s and free agents starting on March 6th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

What's up, everyone? Julie Swerbinks here along with former NHL player Nate Thompson.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We're doing a new podcast together. Here we go.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

The name? Energy Line with Nate and jsb.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Each week we'll get together and talk about hockey life. All topics are fair game, right?

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Exactly. And you'll never know who will drop by to join us.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Julie is pretty well connected. She has text threads going that you wouldn't believe.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Listen to Energy Line with Nate and JSB on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.