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Sports Analyst
Now listen, even though it's a small sample size, you can tell that the future is going to be very bright for the Lakers. Now, I know people don't want to. You don't want to get too happy they are playing the Utah Jazz. But obviously you understand how dynamic. You know, Bron and Luka are playing together. Even though the sample size is small, especially with the IQ that Luka has, especially with the IQ that LeBron has as well. The spacing obviously with Luke and Brown on the court was awesome. You could tell that Reeds is going to be able to eat as long as. As well as everybody else. So I'm. Listen, I'm excited for the Lakers I don't think. I still don't think it's enough to be able to compete and contend for. For a title. I still think they need another piece. I. I could be wrong. You can tell. You could tell me. You would know better. Better than I can. I still think there would be. You. You would need another piece to add to them, to that puzzle. To be able to challenge out there.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
In the west, they need a big. The only big they have is Jackson Hayes, and I don't think that's enough. You only want to play Jackson Hayes somewhere between, you know, 14, 20 minutes a night. He's not a guy that you're going to run out there and play 25, 30 minutes, 35 minutes a night. That's not what he is. That's not. He's not been that player in his NBA career. So you probably need another big. That's why they tried to trade for the Williams kid. But as I was reading earlier, Ojo, he failed a physical. Go ahead.
Sports Analyst
And now I have a question. When. When it comes. When it comes to failing a physical, is it due to past injuries, or does he actually have an injury right now to where he couldn't pass it? I'm. I'm curious.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
Well, you know what happens. Oh, so you know what happens when they bring you in there, they test you out. They start pulling on your joints and your shoulders and your knees and twist your ankle. Oh, it's. Are you okay? They give you mri, they give you, you know, all that other stuff. But here's a guy that's been, you know, he kind of has an injury history.
Sports Analyst
Okay?
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
So I don't know what. Why y'all so anxious to get up or if he's so good, y'all should welcome him back.
Sports Analyst
Right, right, right.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
But clearly, clearly, there's more to it than what's going on. It's like, hey, we thought we had another shooter. We know what Dalton was. Yeah, he's kind of cooled off a lot. Early on, he was. He was really letting it fly. Had some big games, shooting the three ball for the Lakers. Can put the ball on the floor, can finish at the rim. I know the Lakers really like him, but sometimes you have to give up something to get something, and they realize they needed a big. Luka likes playing with very athletic bigs because he can get into the paint. He can dish a lot of lob dunks. Look, go look at Lively. Go look at Daniel Gafford. Look at the guys that he's played with. Guys get a lot of easy Baskets, because, hey, he's going to get into the paint because he can change speeds. He's really herky jerky. But. But right now, I think that's the thing they're missing. They're getting better at shooting the ball from outside. Gabe Vincent is getting better at shooting the three ball. He's finally getting his legs back. Last year was a wash year for him, and he's finally starting to shoot like the Gabe Benson that we saw his last year in Miami when he really let the ball fly. Help that team get to the NBA Finals, but end up losing to the Nuggets. Austin Reeves has been on a tear lately. He's been unbelievable. He's just getting better and better and better every year. Would I be surprised eventually if he's not an All Star? I can see it happening now. It's going to be hard because he has Luka and he has LeBron on his team. But here's the thing, Ojo. He's going to be getting the third best defender. You got to give one of your best defenders, especially with the wing. You've got to guard Luka. He's got to guard LeBron. So now it's kind of like that third receiver. If you got two dogs outside that third receiver, like, bag. Hey, y'all, give me the third or fourth corner. I'm definitely going to eat now.
Sports Analyst
You're going to eat. You're going to eat.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
He's definitely going to eat. Rui is another guy that's going to get big because both LeBron, because they're big guards.
Sports Analyst
Yes, sir.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
Can see over the defense so they can penetrate, skip, pass, hammer, pass over the top. It really doesn't matter to them. And we know they both can score. Luka has the highest, the third highest scoring average in NBA history at almost 29 points a game, behind Jordan, behind William. When it comes to the playoffs, he has the high second highest scoring average behind only Michael Jordan. So that just lets you know what a proficient guy he is at scoring the basketball. And so you look at a guy that's averaging basically 29, 8 and 8, which is crazy. And he won't be 26 until the 28th of this month.
Sports Analyst
Yeah.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
So the Lakers have someone to win. LeBron defiled decides if and when that's going to be because it's going to take a lot of pressure off LeBron Ocho, because he's not going to have the workload of having to bring the ball up the court. He's not going to have the workload of Trying to have to facilitate for everybody else. Luka is going to take a lot of pressure off LeBron. I can see LeBron now play another two to three years.
Sports Analyst
Right. You know what you're saying that when you talk about, you know, Luka taking some of the pressure off LeBron obviously Luka some of the pressure is taken off him as well. Even Correct. He is efficient as he is. He has a squad around him that where he doesn't have to do all the work. He has, he has hella athletes, a lot of players around him with length and I think he, he's going to be. Going to be a great addition. I think they just need a big, they need a big. And if they can get it big now I'm, I'm not sure how many, how many viable options out there that can come in and, and you can plug and play and make a difference right now.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
No, they're not a whole. Well, you can't trade for anybody. So anybody's going to be basically street free agents or you maybe somebody get cut and you able to bring them in like that. But I know they were looking at.
Sports Analyst
If they getting cut, there's, there's not much they can do for you.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
But, but no that, but Luke and LeBron can bring it out of them. Everybody ain't got AA Luke and LeBron but you know, they were looking at Valentunas, they looked at Walker Kessler who's on the Utah Jazz. But seemingly the Jazz wanted more than what the. The Lakers were willing to part ways with. The only guys are out there available. I think of Javale McGee, I think of Alex Lynn, a Dwight Howard.
Sports Analyst
Don't know what, how, how old is Dwight?
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
Probably a year younger than LeBron.
Sports Analyst
Oh man.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
Cuz he was, he was in the, the that draft class after LeBron.
Sports Analyst
Okay.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
So I'm thinking he came straight out of high school also. So he should probably be a year younger. A year younger than LeBron. LeBron. But you only can can. And Dwight keeps himself in great shape. Yeah. The question is, can he. I believe he can give you 20 minutes a night. He and Jackson Hayes alternating. You know there's gonna be. Sometimes they go with a small lineup.
Sports Analyst
Right.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
But the question is can those guys between the two of them, can they give you 20, 24 minutes a night? I believe they can, but they definitely need another big.
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Jackson Hayden is not nearly enough. Like I said, you don't want to play him a ton of minutes. He's an energy guy. He's gonna block some Shots, he'll challenge some stuff at the rim, but he's a good role player. And the thing is you don't have to run plays for him because you don't need, you got enough scoring, you don't need other guys that you have to run plays for. You got Luca, you got LeBron, you got Austin Reeves that can score, you got Rui, you got four guys that can score. Now you need bigs. I ain't got to run no plays for you. Get it off the rim. Put backs lobster. Can you rebound? Can you challenge stuff at the rim? Because when you give up Anthony Davis, you give up one of the premier defensive players. One of the premier defensive players but he's one of the best two way players also that's in the game. But you gave that up because he was your last line of defense. He did a lot of covering up. Anthony Davis is like makeup. That's your fault. The blemishes that you have, he could cover it up.
Sports Analyst
Right.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
And so that's what you need. That's what you need. And so can Jackson Hayes block the shots. Yeah, we know Dwight, we know Javale McGee can challenge shots. We don't know how much tread they got but look, you don't need, you're not going to get a yokage. So who I. Right. So you just have to basically hope that one of these guys that they're able to secure can give you valuable minutes because Luka and LeBron is going to give you plenty.
Sports Analyst
Now when now obviously you don't know. I don't know how basketball works to the extent that you do. During this break, during this All Star break. Isn't that the time you want to already have a big coming in at that point so you can hit the ground running when you come out of the All Star break and having a big, you know, to, to go, to go at everybody else.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
Yeah, I mean the, the, the question is is that Rob is, is, is probably scouring they're looking at but like I said, there's not a whole lot out there. It's not like you got a cream of crop working a litter.
Sports Analyst
Yeah, yeah.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
So you only got a handful of guys out there. JaVale McGee has familiarity with the Lakers. Dwight, how is has familiarity with the Lakers. I don't believe anybody else is going to be get cut or get on a. Oh, excuse. I say cut a buyout.
Sports Analyst
Right? Right.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
I don't see, I don't really see any buyouts happening. I think Alex Lynn is available. He's another big Like I said, you're not going to get somebody that's a a double double machine. Most of the guys gonna have a older Javale McGee is a little older. Dwight Howell's a little older. Javale probably can give you I would say somewhere 15, 16 minutes a night. The white maybe a little more 16 to 18 minutes a night but maybe that's all you need.
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Sports Analyst
Hey, does it matter that they don't give you much on the offensive end of the ball though?
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
No, because you got if you don't. If LeBron James, that average is 25. Luca, that's averaging 28. Austin Reeds, that's averaging 20. Roy, that's averaging 16. If that's not enough with the day, okay, that's good. Okay.
Sports Analyst
Okay.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
And consider, and consider that you hope your bench, Gabe Vincent, can continue to get better and better. I like this Goodwin kid that I saw. Goodwin Godwin, the kid that I saw tonight. They came up the bench. He's a scorer. You can tell when he gets the ball in his hands. He's looking to get to the basket. He's looking to put the ball in the basket. So I like what I saw with him. I don't want to get too carried away. Like I said, Utah wasn't playing any defense tonight. But if you look at him, I followed him last couple of games. He could put the ball in the basket and he can put the ball in the basket at an elite clip. Vando's not going to give you much on the offensive end, but he's a Defensive guy, Finney Smith, he's streaky, he can get hot. He can hit you about three or four threes in a game, but you're looking for him to defend at an elite level on the defensive end. So Vando, Finney, Smith, those are your defensive guys. Jackson Hayes is a guy that can challenge at the rim. Gabe Vincent, he's another defensive guy. So look, when you got Austin Reaves, guys gonna go at Austin Reaves, they're going to attack him. Guys attack luka, they know LeBron cannot exert that kind of defensive energy on a nightly basis. Yeah, yeah. So somebody's going to have to defend somebody.
Sports Analyst
Right?
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
But you're going to have to defend those guys also because you got three guys that can put the ball in the basket at an elite level. Like I said, I love the way Austin Reeds has gotten better, better, better, better. We know what LeBron is, we know what Luke is. The question is, can they add another piece which I believe will be a big. That can give them enough offense, which you don't need much. Can you give us eight points again? But what we need is defense. Can you rebound? Can you defend? Can you challenge? Can you clog the paint? And I believe if they get that, I think they'll be okay. But this, like I said, they trying to rescind this trade. I'm not. I'm not sure. Look, the guy has. It had. He's had some injuries and I mean, he's a big guy. Oh, Joe, he give you 16 points. I think he's almost a double double. But he's injured. And most times, every once in a while, if they really want a guy. I remember, I think it was last year. Yeah, maybe a year, maybe a year and a half ago. The warriors, they traded for Gary Payton ii. He was injured, he failed a physical, but they really liked him because they had had it before, right. And so they knew what they were getting and say, you know what, we'll go ahead. Don't even worry about it. Yes, he felt. We'll work with him, we'll let him take. Because here's the thing, Ocho. I'm not trading for a guy that's gonna. He injured and I gotta wait. No, bro, I need, I need, I need you to get.
Sports Analyst
I need you to go right now. Yeah.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
And I think that's what happened with Anthony Davis, because Anthony was. Ad. Was hurt and he was like, okay. And he came. Maybe came back a little bit too soon.
Sports Analyst
Right.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
And so now he tweaked that abductor and now he's gonna be out some extended time. And I just saw they lost Daniel Gafford tonight, so two of the three bigs, they lost. Hey, go ahead.
Sports Analyst
You know, it's funny when I think about. Do you think Anthony Davis injury history played a part in them letting him go and. Not really. Not really. I don't want to say not caring, but understanding that they could get Luka and had no problem letting Anthony Davis go simply because of his injury history.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
If Anthony Davis was 100% healthy and played all the game like AC Green, you're not passing up an opportunity to get Luka Doncic, 25 years of age, averaging 29 points a game, eight rebounds, nine assists. You're not giving that up. That. There's never been a trade like this before. Ocho. Yeah, there's never been a trade like this. Not. Not it.
Sports Analyst
Is there comparable. Is there a football trade comparable to the Anthony Luca Dante trade or is nothing even close?
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
No, because what. What happens if you go back and look at the trades? If you say, what about Kareem? Kareem wanted to be out. He wanted to leave, right. And come to la. Actually, Kareem really wanted to go to New York, but he ended up going to the Lakers. With that being said, right? Luka is 25 and he didn't ask to be traded. Anthony Davis asked to be traded. Guys have asked in their prime to be traded. Luka is 25. Five time, first team, all NBA, led the league in scoring, rookie of the year. They didn't ask and they moved him. There's not a whole lot. I don't. If you really think about it, there's not a whole lot of guys that you're probably not going to move him for. You're not going to move him for Yoke, right? You're not going to move him for Shay. I don't know if they'll move it for Jayson Tatum, because they like that mesh. But other than that, if Nico Collins would have took that to the warriors and say, give us KD map or Steph is not going anywhere.
Sports Analyst
Okay, okay, okay.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
Steph is not going anywhere. No, Steph is not going there. Jay Lockham is not. Joe Linkum is not going doing that. That deal. But we talked about it. What the owner said is like, okay, we finna pull some of this power back, right? Y'all got too much. Y'all been where y'all want to go and who y'all want and yelling and doing all the screaming. Hey, that's a shockwave. Because you heard all the players talking like, hey, lets us know everybody is touchable.
Sports Analyst
You know, it lets us know everybody's touchable. But we still don't know exactly what happened. We still don't know exactly what happened. Where you're getting off. A player that's been putting up the numbers, he's been putting up as consistently as he has despite. Despite the injury and not playing since, you know, December. Something else is going on behind. Behind closed doors, especially for a player that's eligible for a supermax, you know, five year, 345, whatever.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
Whatever.
Sports Analyst
Whatever the numbers may have been. If you're that good, if you're that good, how do you let someone go like that? What is going on behind closed doors, where you let them go, knowing that you're not going to be able to replace that, that type of productivity. Right. You're not going to. You know, I mean. I mean, you can get some foreign, but it just is not the same.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
Luka Doncic, this summer's in line to get five years, 345, $350 million. That's $70 million a year. Normally, if somebody's getting that kind of money, you don't want to have any questions. I don't want no injury history. I don't want a guy that I have to motivate to do what he needs to do. One second. That's a lot of money, Ocho. And so what a lot of the players are thinking, right? Well, to keep somebody from getting that supermax contract, if I trade him now, I save. Somebody else has to deal with that. But still, even if you save, that means they still can't get the supermax when you. Once you get traded, because now that original team doesn't have the Bird rights.
Sports Analyst
I have a question. Anything about a player that's that good, a player that's that dynamic. Now we're not. I'm not even speaking. Lucas, you know, in this sense, that's that great, Right? With every great player, aren't there some type of issues internally? Think about it.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
No, no.
Sports Analyst
Think about some of the stories. Think about some of the stories. As great as Kobe was, as great as Michael Jordan was.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
Yes.
Sports Analyst
Do you think everything was always perfect?
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
Well, there was no injury.
Sports Analyst
Because I think that what was going on and the issues they had with Luka, it had nothing to do with what he does on the court.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
Right. I think the thing was, is that the one thing, no matter what you thought, they were too driven, they were too motivated, they came in shape and Basketball was the end all be all, right? And so if you're investing that kind of money, you need basketball to be the end all be all. Now, like I said, maybe. And plus, Ocho, I need to wrestle some of this power back because Luka is so powerful in that organization, if I give him this money, he's damn near the owner.
Sports Analyst
You think it made it worse?
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
And so that seems to me, huh?
Sports Analyst
Excuse me. Excuse me. I hate to cut you off. Do you see the kind of money NBA players make?
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
Yeah, for sure.
Sports Analyst
Even if he didn't get the supermax, he's still making fuck you money. Oh, my bad, My bad. God, dog it.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
My bad.
Sports Analyst
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. He's making f you money. Yes. You know, all the players, you know in the NBA are making a few money. So now NBA owners trying to find a way to, you know, what we're going to pull and take some of this power back. Well, it's too late now. It's too late. Based on the kind of money they're making, everything is guaranteed. Yes, everything's guaranteed. So there's really nothing they can do.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
But here's the thing, though, Ocho. The players are going to be on their best behavior. Cause 350. Now you go down to 229.
Sports Analyst
Don't do me like that.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
I'm just saying that's what.
Sports Analyst
220, 229. What is there that I can't do with 229 that I can do with 350? I can do just about the same thing.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
That's the. That's the same thing that you said with the NFL players. What can I do with 75 million that I can do with 50? That's a bit. Think about it. And you leave Texas with no state income tax. You go to California where there's a 13% tax rate.
Sports Analyst
Right? Right.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
Luca is a global star.
Sports Analyst
Yes, sir.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
And you gave him up and put him in the biggest market for the next decade. This is the Lakers. This is what they always do. This is what they've always done. Go back and look at the Lakers history. It started out when they got Will, and then they got Kareem, they got Bob Madu, they got shaq, they got LeBron, they got Anthony Davis, and now they got Luca. This is what they do.
Sports Analyst
Right?
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
So people shouldn't be surprised. The only thing that I think the only thing the NBA owners are upset about. Bro, you ain't open it up. Do you know what Luka would have.
Sports Analyst
Commanded if everyone had A chance to get him.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
Rudy Gobert went for four first round picks.
Sports Analyst
4.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
Do you know when Luka Dodge is a 25 year old global international superstar would have went for.
Sports Analyst
So that that means that mean Nico Collins and Rob Plinker had some where they were in cahoots behind, behind, behind closed doors, obviously not letting anybody know what they were going to do simply because it's the Lakers. Where else would you want to go but the Lakers? They have to make a splash. They have to have a superstar.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
But the Lakers ain't had the best. I bet you, I guarantee you if they had to open this thing up, Lakers wouldn't have come close to the best package.
Sports Analyst
Oh, absolutely not.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
But Rob Pelinka was Kobe's agent. Nico Collins was at Nike, worked with Kobe, worked with Jordan, worked with LeBron. You see with now hopefully people understand it's all about relationships.
Sports Analyst
Always.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
I keep telling y'all, oh, it ain't about this, it's about that. No, it's not. Rob and Nico had a relationship.
Sports Analyst
I like that. It's this. I like this. Let's see. You know what's funny? You know what I do like? I like also is we need to be a little bit more and I'm asking for this. I'm asking for this. We need a little bit be a little bit more active on the basketball end because now that football season's over, guess who I'm finna be at watching the game courtside. Oh, I'm not watching the game from home. Well, I'm finna use some of this nightcap money, boy. I'm going to sit courtside. What are you talking about?
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
No, I'm ready. I'm saving my money.
Sports Analyst
Where you going?
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
I'm saving.
Sports Analyst
Oh, now you want to save? I'm appreciating you about saving.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
All this time, I ain't got no big change. I ain't got no big 84. I. I wasn't iced out on Nightcap Live. I ain't got that. I have five bracelets.
Sports Analyst
Wait a minute, hold on, hold on. I had to prepare myself for live shows. We have a tour. We have a tour coming up. So that's my stuff specifically for the tour. Now I can put, I put that away and that's not coming out again until April when it's time to go on, say a tour. Now listen, you have to understand now, Pat Riley and I have a relationship. Mickey Arison and I have a relationship. I have a relationship with Bam by the Bio. I'm going to sit courtside next to the Lakers, next to the Lakers, next to the Heat bench. That's only $1,500. That's just no disrespect to anybody in the chat. I'm not saying it's a drop. A drop in the bucket. For fifteen hundred dollars, I could. That's feasible for me for the rest of the season at the All Star break, where I can get a better understanding of the game, watching it up close, being able to talk it. So I can sound like you, so I can sound like Stephen A. I can sound like Malika Andrews, you know, so I can sound like Perkins, huh?
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
Yeah.
Sports Analyst
All right, now, give me, give me, give me three weeks. Watch how I sound out here.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
But yeah, I mean, I, I, I, I like what the Lakers have done. I like LeBron. But like I said, I can see LeBron playing two or three years for the simple fact, the workload that he will. The question is his mind, like you said, because he's LeBron James and he's been great since he stepped foot in the NBA. And if there's any point in time that he can't be great, he'll walk away just like Tom Brady. Tom realized. Tom Brady, great. See, people like what Tom. Look at Tom's numbers. But Tom, when you are a great player, you only get compared to a younger self. You don't get compared to the other players. Aaron Rodgers, when you look at Aaron Rodgers numbers, they weren't that bad. But you compared Aaron to the young Aaron when He was throwing 45 touchdowns with four picks, he was 38 touchdowns with three picks. He was this and that. That. MVP. When you're great, it's hard for you to be anything other than great, right? And now all of a sudden, people look at it like, damn, I'm a reg. It's hard. It's hard. It's just like when some people have a large sum of money and all of a sudden they don't have that no more, ojo. They don't know how to behave. Like, I had all this money. I've had millions, hundreds of millions, billions. And now I just got you a billionaire, and all of a sudden all you got is $200 million, man. 200 million. Me and you. 200 million. Like, sign me up. But not when you've had billions. That's a whole different ball game. Check this out. Ocho, during the Mavs karaoke cam, during a timeout of fan mouth, fired Nico. They quickly booted him from the arena. This was the first time a fan had Been shown on video since the trade. Fans booed as the guy was escorted out of the. Out of the arena. Is that the right way to handle this?
Sports Analyst
Oh, man. Listen. No, wait, wait. Is it the right way to handle it? For who? The fan or them booting them out?
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
They booted him out. Is that the right way for the Mavericks to handle it?
Sports Analyst
Oh, absolutely. Absolutely not. Listen, fans come to a game, they should be able to express themselves based on decisions that have been made. You know, I think he didn't curse.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
He didn't yell profanity. He didn't. He didn't yell obscenities. Right. It wasn't, you know, it wasn't like, you know what I'm saying, Ocho. It wasn't anything like. No, racial. All he said was, yeah, right. That should get you kicked out of the arena. I'm sorry.
Sports Analyst
It shouldn't get you kicked out, but you there to enjoy a game. You're there. You're there to enjoy a game. You're there to have Nico Harris.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
I keep saying. I keep saying, Colin. Nico Harrison. I'm sorry, Chad. Nico Harrison.
Sports Analyst
Yeah. I think, listen, there's a no tolerance policy. I think fans need to understand and respect not only the players, but other authority as well. You know, go there if you're not pleased with them. We understand your displeasure with certain individuals based on decisions that they made. There's certain things you can't do. It's like, you know, when you get pulled over by the cop and just because you know the law, you want to challenge authority or you want to curse or you want to prove, you know, you, You. You know, you know. Yeah. Listen, you upset.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
You, buddy.
Sports Analyst
Yeah. You upset with what happened and what. And, you know, Luka Luca leaving. Go to the game. Enjoy it. You see him. Give him a. Give him a little quick boo, you know, boo. Going about your business. Enjoy the game.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
But I think when you. When you handle it this way, now, you invite more people to be this way. Hold on. All I said was fire Nico Harrison. I don't think that's an offense that should get me thrown out of a game. If I'm really. If I'm yelling obscenities, if I'm yelling racial stuff, if it is profane. Yeah, I get it. But that's all he said was fire Nico Harrison. That's not an ejectionable offense. Now, have they taken it? They've had to add extra security to this man to and from watching his home because of the threats. That's too far. That's taking it too far. I get it, you're upset. But to put threats on the man's life and his family's life, that's going too far. So I get, I, I get the precaution that the Mavericks are taking, right? But I, I, I, I, I can't get down with that because all he said was fire Nico Harrison, and the man is talk from the arena. I don't, I don't agree with that. Ocho, you, you know what?
Sports Analyst
A crack in your window, it always starts small. If you don't fix it, if you don't set a precedent early, that crack, it gets bigger and bigger over time, right? So now you talk about he just said fire Nico, and that's all he said. You know, that small crack will continue to get bigger and bigger because other people are going to see that, right? So what they're doing is they jumping the gun. You know, we need to get on top of this now before this small crack eventually turns a little bit bigger and it gets out of control.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
Well, hey, once you go there, like, look, we ask God, we ask everybody to be respectful, blah, blah, blah. And once he, yeah, once, he yelled it the first, you know, mouthed it the first time, just paying off it. You remember how they used to show when every time when streakers would run on the field or guys, women would lift their shirt off and they would just stay on it. Now they just, hey, they just cut away. We're not going to give you no TV time. We're not going to let you have your little five seconds, your 15 seconds of fame. We're just going to move on. I think for me, I think that would have been the proper way to handle it. But hey, the Mavericks did what they did. I don't agree with it. As a matter of fact, they just ejected a team of rant jaw's dead out of the game because he said something to the official. I guess I could be wrong, and I think I'm paraphrasing. I think said y'all on the take or something like that. You have to be careful. You know, you say stuff like that to the officials. That's a very, very touchy subject, especially with gambling involved. But this, this is not even close for me. Chad, let me know what you guys think is a, an objectionable offense. Kevin Durant is still with the Phoenix Suns and ready to get back on the court after last week's event for trade deadline full of speculation. It's just part of the business. Everybody's bought and sold in this league, anybody came up for auction. So I understand. It's just about getting back on the court and trying to go out there and play the game that I love. It's part of the business, though. We've all got to understand that. The Suns ended up having a relatively quiet trade deadline, dealing only disgruntled center Yusef Nurkic to the Hornets, but keeping the rest of the core intact. The team's big three, Durant, Book and Bradley Bill is still together as the franchise tries to gain traction in the standing. Ojo, you agree, disagree, like what KD said.
Sports Analyst
I like what KD said. Obviously, he feels that everyone is expendable at this point, and I don't think KD would have said anything like that if he hadn't seen the deal that happened with Luka. I think he wouldn't have uttered those type of words. But now, seeing that they were able to get rid of Luka despite how good he was, I think that's why he said what he said. Anytime. Anytime Katie was on the move. It's because he wanted it.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
Correct.
Sports Analyst
It's because he wanted it. You know, he said, you know, he was displeased with the issue or with the. With the. With the turmoil and chaos that was going on around him. You know what? I want to make a move. I'm gonna move. Whether it was the warriors, whether it was. God damn it. Whether it was okc.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
His friend. He was a friend of the okc, Ojo. So he's like, you know, I want to move on. Well within his. Well within his rights. The warriors, you mentioned, he was there. He wasn't happy for me. A part of it. The warriors was New Edition Johnny, Bobby, Ricky and Mike. They were the original. Johnny Gill. Could I sing them all? Yeah. But he didn't grow up in Roxbury. Boston.
Sports Analyst
Right.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
So he was never going to be accepted like those. Like Trey Clay and Steph. Excuse me, Steph. Clay and Dread and Draymond.
Sports Analyst
Right.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
We know what KD is. A seven foot walking bucket.
Sports Analyst
Yes, sir.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
Mid range. Can get to shoot the three. You follow him. 90% of his shot can play with his bag to the basket, put the ball on the floor. We've never seen a guy 7 foot tall handle the ball and be able to do what he does. Right. But he's like, you know what? I'm gone. Yeah. He goes to Brooklyn and sees like, man, I'm gone. So once you leave, it's easier for you to do it again. It's just like Ocho. It's just like somebody getting divorced. A lot of times when people get divorced, you see a person with multiple divorces because once you leave a relationship, it gets a lot easier to leave the next relationship, you know.
Sports Analyst
And that's another thing. Now I'm gonna take it to sports. Once you see someone get knocked out the first time, you know how much easier it is when they get knocked out again after that first one.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
Yes.
Sports Analyst
So subconsciously it's already there.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
Yep.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Absolutely.
Sports Analyst
It can happen a lot faster.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
Uh huh. So Kevin, KD just wants to play basketball. That's what he is. He's a professional basketball player. He works on his craft extremely hard. You don't get this. You don't play as long as he's played, be as good as he is without working on his craft. All that other stuff. He let Rich Kleiman do what he does, handle his business stuff. KD just wants to focus on basketball on the court. And so he understands the business of the game. Just like he was a business. He was a free agent. He went to Golden State. He became a free agent again. He went to Brooklyn. He's like, you know what? The situation is getting out of hand. I don't think we can win here. I want to go somewhere else. But he handled it in such a way. He didn't make a whole lot of noise. He didn't call, you know, mispragus or be laid or stomp out of shoot around. Shoot around. His representative say, look, I would like to be moved, get what you can for me. And this, you know, this, they did him a solid. He wanted to go to Phoenix. They put him in Phoenix. But see, that's because of the person, the man, the player that he is. He's been very respectful how he handled it. They accommodated it.
Sports Analyst
Right.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
A lot of times, like where you want to go, okay, I'm gonna send you to the opposite place you wanna go to heaven. Hell it is.
Sports Analyst
Yeah.
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Bucks general manager John Horse said trading franchise cornerstone CHR Middleton after 12 seasons in Milwaukee was the hardest transaction he's made. Don't. Don't start as an executive, but did so to maximize the window for a championship. It's still the awesome responsibility to try to take this franchise and maximizing the window that we have now as best we can, what we think gives us the best chance to win and figure out how to continue winning going forward. There's a very narrow set of opportunities that we felt that we could do that and this is one of them. Milwaukee traded Middleton and rookie guard A.J. johnson and a pig swap to Washington in exchange for Kyle Kuzma, Patrick Baldwin Jr. And a second round pick before last week's trade deadline. The Bucs also acquired center Jericho Sims for the New York Knicks as part of the deal, Ocho, the executive, said it was the hardest decision, one of the hardest decisions he's had to make.
Sports Analyst
I heard that's. I heard that before, too. Huh. Did we hear that from someone who sits at one of the higher seats for the Giants? Jose Kongo was one of the hardest things for him to do, but they still did it. I'm not sure. In that case, it was for the betterment of the team. Do you think this situation and letting Khris Middleton go was the betterment of the team in the future and giving them their best chance at a trophy or competing for one?
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
I think the injury that Chris had, the knee injury, they didn't think that. It comes down to, oo do I believe that I can count on you.
Shannon Sharpe
Long term moving forward?
Sports Analyst
Ouch.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
And so I make a decision when somebody tells you that, you know, your parents should tell you, this is gonna hurt. I got. I'm feeling I'm gonna tear your ass up, but it's gonna hurt me more than hurt you. We don't do it. I don't want you to be hurt, and I damn sure don't want Ben if you hurt. What kind of bull job is that? Hey, boy.
Sports Analyst
My grandma used to get catch me with that boy in junior high, you know, in my early days. Yeah, in high school and getting a trial.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
Oh, this gonna hurt me more than it hurt you. Well, I don't want you to hurt Brandy. Yeah, don't hurt. I don't want you to hurt. I definitely don't want to hurt this unblocked, man. Y'all miss me with that foolishness. And that's what. That's what these exhibits, you know, this. This hurts me to my babe. Stop now. You know, obviously, if it was a situation where. And that's what. If you go back and look at it. That's what made Coach Belichick so good, and that's what really irked him, and that's what irked Tom, because Coach Belichick realized I'm going to have to make a very tough decision one day. The closer I get to a player, the harder it is for me to do my job. This is why in the military, I don't know if they still have it, but higher ups messing with lower subordinates because they clouds your judgment. Because now I don't want to put you in harm's way because I feel some type of way about you.
Sports Analyst
Yes, sir.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
So that's why they don't like if you're a Higher up, you can't mess with a subordinate because you're in a position of authority and you are over that person. And so when you got to send somebody out to go do battle, you got to send them out to battle. Well, if that's your little boo thing or that's your woo, you think he.
Sports Analyst
Would be, let me, let me get a little desk job.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
Yeah. I don't want you to go out there and get hurt. You stay right over here with me. Right over here. That ain't how it works. And so when you dealing with. And so that's why you have to keep emotion out of it. That's why you can't, can't get too close. Because the closer you are to an individual, the harder it is for you to part with said individual. And so, you know, and maybe, maybe, maybe it is. I mean, hey, I, I don't, I don't know. I've never been in a situation.
Sports Analyst
Where.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
I had to make a decision, a very, very tough decision where you've been with someone for an extended period of time and you've won together, you've accomplished so much together.
Sports Analyst
Right.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
Excuse me. And it comes to a point in time where you have to let said individual go. I'm sure that's not an easy thing to do. But like he said, at the end of the day, Ocho, no matter what I think of an individual, I still have an obligation to the owner that pays my salary to the fan base to put the best product on the floor in order to win a championship.
Sports Analyst
Okay, Okay, I understand it. I don't know if that's the best product on the floor to achieve the end goal, but so be it.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
Ocho. The Chiefs may be forced to release Travis Kelsey this offseason due to an almost $20 million cap hit. This would be the highest cap here for tight end in the entire league. Given that Kelsey at times struggled this year to get open and to create separation. No joke. Is this the end of Travis Kelce, who I believe is the goat tight end and his relationship with the Chiefs?
Sports Analyst
Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Obviously you know Patrick Mahomes, you know Kelce and all other players that are part of that team that are going to be there next year, not those that are on a one year deal. Travis Kelsey is a team player. He's a team player and he's making so much money off the field, he's not going to have a problem taking a pay cut. He's not going to have a problem doing that because he gonna make up for whatever he. Whatever. He doesn't get off the field because he has so much going on. Listen, this is the same situation with Tom Brady. Who was Tom Brady dating when he was taking pay cuts in New England to make sure they kept the team around him?
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
Yeah, but that. He ain't married to Taylor yet. He might as well go and propose then. If he was that type.
Sports Analyst
Trust me, he good. Trust me.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
Good.
Sports Analyst
He's dating a billionaire, I think. Huh?
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
I did not tie it up.
Sports Analyst
I think he has no worries. He has so. He has so many endeavors going on off the field.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
He does.
Sports Analyst
I'm a team player. I'm a team player to come back to keep the band together, to be able to get some. Some other key offseason acquisitions. I have no problem doing that and coming back and make and. And. And giving this thing another go. He can do that. So he's not one that's hurting for. So he'll be fine.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
I can see him going to Hollywood. He has that look. He has that swag. I can see him parlaying what he's been able to do in football on the field and parlaying that off the field. He has that. The question is, Ocho, as you get older, Travis is flying all over the place. He wants to be with the lady of love of his life. He's going to have to make a decision. How important is football to him?
Sports Analyst
You can't go out like this. Can't be the last taste. This can't be the last taste in your mouth.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
Hell, it might be getting worse.
Sports Analyst
Not a game like this. Not like that.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
Ocho, the thing is about sports. It's funny how sports work, because everybody, like, you can't go out like that. And then you come back and it's worse. This last time, you're like, well, I can't go out. And it just keep getting worse and worse. There is no guarantee. It's not a situation where you get like a John Elway. I win a championship, super bowl mvp, I'm done. Or Michael Strahan. They win, they take down the Giants. I mean, the Giants take down the Patriots. And I do shot right. The bus. The super bowl is in Detroit. He's from Detroit. The bus stops here. So it's not always like that. We don't always get that Hollywood ending, although we might want that Hollywood ending. The question is that I think he's going to have to sit down and ask himself, how much more do I want to give? What do I have? Because let me ask you a Question Ocho, he comes back, what can he do that's going to change the perception of what you think of Travis Kelce? Me personally, I think he's the goat tight end.
Sports Analyst
Oh yeah, yeah. I'm not sure what's going to change. I just know and understand the chemistry and continuity that him and Patrick Mahomes have. Patrick Mahomes having that security blanket. Obviously when they bolster and help and get that, that offensive line together, I think things will be a little bit more easy for him. The chemistry and the continuity odds between the crew. Noah Gray, Xavier Worthy is going to be back. I'm not sure about Hollywood, I'm not sure about Hollywood Brown and DeAndre Hopkins, but whatever other pieces they bring into that table and I, I know that game left a bad taste in everyone's mouth, including Travis Kelce. And I definitely believe he's not going to want to go out like that. And I believe it's one thing to lose. But, but belt to, to, to aws. That's not what they want. I'm not going to.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
I believe in order for him to come back, he's going to have to take a pay cut. He gonna have to take a sizable pay cut.
Sports Analyst
I don't think he have a problem with that. He ain't gonna have no problem doing that. He ain't gonna have a problem.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
Say that because we say that because it's not our money.
Sports Analyst
I mean listen, and just understanding how much he has going on, understanding the individ if this comes out. Knowing, I mean just Taylor Swift look like the type of woman anyway. Oh baby, they want you to take a pay cut. So from 20 million to 10. You know what? Here, go to 10. They're gonna take from you. She look like that type just to cut you, cut you a ten million dollar check right there on the spot. That's just, that's just me.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
Okay.
Sports Analyst
You know they say God loves. God loves the cheerful giver.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
Yeah. See your fans go after CJ Gardner Johnson's mother's restaurant in Florida after his comments on Travis Kelce's ex.
Sports Analyst
Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
I guess, I guess his mom owns a restaurant in Florida.
Sports Analyst
Okay.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
He said something. I guess he comments on Travis Kelce's exact.
Sports Analyst
Okay. Oh yeah.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
Man, look here. But I don't know. You got to be careful, Ocho. When you, when somebody, you know, has a business right now, they flooded with negative reviews on Yelp and things of that nature, right? All of a sudden they, you know, stuff like that. So just, you know, I guess he's saying that he should have stayed with that. That thick.
Sports Analyst
Oh, speaking of Travis Kelsey. Okay. All right. Yeah, I understand.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
That was long time ago, right? She's moved on. Well, clearly she's not. Cause she was on the field last night with Eagles, With. With confetti.
Sports Analyst
Yeah, Yeah. I mean, but Trav.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
But Travis, been that. That's been gone long time. I've never been petty like that, Ocho. So whatever happens, I move on, you move on. We moved on. I ain't got no bad. I ain't got nothing bad to say about you. I don't know.
Sports Analyst
Yeah. He hadn't said nothing at all.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
Nothing at all.
Sports Analyst
What is there to say, though? There's nothing to say. Do you understand that? There's nothing wrong with Nicole, you know, beautiful young lady.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
Yes. But I'm sure she's making somebody very happy. I'm sure somebody.
Sports Analyst
Oh, hopefully she is. But you have to understand the situation that Travis Kelsey is in now. This is. This is a whole different ballgame, huh?
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Sports Analyst
You talk about Taylor Swift, but this is different. You know, especially going forward for the foreseeable future. You know, this is.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
But, you know, O.J.
Sports Analyst
No apples and oranges now, man.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
Look, look, he gave up this for that bro. Okay, maybe you wouldn't have.
Sports Analyst
Who. Who wouldn't have?
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
But I'm saying, Ojo, you know how they.
Sports Analyst
We base everything off of looks and aesthetic.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
Thank you, man.
Sports Analyst
We talk about.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
We do.
Sports Analyst
She got. We talking about a Billy, man, stop playing with me.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
Hey, you. You preaching to the choir. Now turn around and get that to the congregation. Hell, I'll be the choir. I'm behind you singing.
Sports Analyst
The congregation better stop playing. I'm thinking long term.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
Long term? Yeah.
Sports Analyst
Assets versus liabilities. I'm not saying the individuals are a liability. I'm just saying. I understand. I mean, I know what this is bringing to the table. I know what that's bringing to the table.
DraftKings Sportsbook Representative
Yeah. Like I said, for me, I just. Like I said, I just prefer to just, like, move on in a different direction. I don't really talk about my exits. And, you know, somebody's like, really? I don't really care to talk about that. That ran its course. I'm over here now. I don't really. Because, you know, there's nothing good that can come out of talking. Hopefully my ex. Like I said, I don't. I don't. I don't beat my exes up. I don't say this. We moved on. We had a great time. It was a great 2 year 1 year, 5 months, 8 years, 10 years. Whatever the case may be. Right? It ran its course. That's. And you know, you just move on. Yeah, yeah, but if y'all ain't finish, y'all ain't what you call them. Tell me what I should do. Yeah, because you don't know. I'm happy. It's not like it. Because if we were both happy, we would both still be in this situation. That's the way I look at it. But hey, to each his own. The volume.
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Club Shay Shay - Episode Summary: "Nightcap - Hour 1: Luka Lakers Debut, Mavs Eject Fan, Kelce Done in KC?"
Release Date: February 11, 2025
In this episode of Club Shay Shay, NFL legend Shannon Sharpe engages in an in-depth conversation with former NFL star Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson and sports analysts to dissect recent high-profile events in the NBA and NFL. The trio delves into Luka Doncic's debut with the Los Angeles Lakers, an incident involving a fan ejection during a Mavericks game, and the ongoing saga surrounding Travis Kelce's future with the Kansas City Chiefs. The discussion is rich with insights, expert opinions, and notable quotes that shed light on these significant developments in professional sports.
The conversation kicks off with Luka Doncic making his highly anticipated debut for the Los Angeles Lakers after recovering from a calf injury sustained on Christmas Day. The hosts analyze his performance and the overall game dynamics.
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A significant portion of the discussion revolves around the Lakers' failed physical assessment for Mark Williams and the Charlotte Hornets' intentions to dispute this outcome.
Trade Dispute Details:
Expert Commentary:
The Lakers' roster composition is scrutinized, focusing on their current bigs and the necessity for additional players in that position to compete effectively.
Current Roster Analysis:
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Trade Considerations:
An unexpected incident during a Mavericks game involving a fan's ejection becomes a focal point of discussion, raising questions about fan conduct and team policies.
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Shifting focus to the NFL, the conversation delves into Travis Kelce's potential departure from the Kansas City Chiefs due to salary cap constraints and his relationship with the team.
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The episode wraps up with reflections on team dynamics, player relationships, and the intricate balance between athletic performance and business decisions in professional sports.
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This episode of Club Shay Shay offers a comprehensive analysis of pivotal moments in the NBA and NFL, providing listeners with expert opinions and in-depth discussions on the implications of these events for the teams and players involved. Whether you're a basketball aficionado or a football fan, Sharpe and Ochocinco deliver insightful commentary that reflects the current landscape of professional sports.