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But take your time. He had suffered a medical emergency today, but I think he's doing well. We're going to reach back out tomorrow and see if. If he's getting better and better. Hopefully he is. But Adrian, know that we. We're praying for you and get back when you can. Oh, Lord have mercy. This man here.
Friend 1
What happened? What happened?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I already knew it.
Friend 1
What?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You was in the same classroom the whole day? Hey, yeah, One teacher. She taught him everything, y'all. He never left that class from K through 12. Ocho stayed in the same classroom the entire day.
Friend 1
And you know what? I love when you say that. But the funny thing about it is I was a 4.0 student, obviously. In college. I made the dean's list.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, but they were great on a 15 point scale.
Friend 1
No, no, no, no, no, no. You better, man, check my resume. Check my record, man. Ocho, Miami bc.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ocho.
Friend 1
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ocho. You went to Juco.
Friend 1
You know why I went to Juco?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes. The reason why everybody go to Juco.
Friend 1
Why?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes. Hey, your grave. You couldn't have got in prison. You didn't. Had to go to juco. You had to go to Juco to get to prison with them grades.
Friend 1
Nah, nah, nah, nah. My grave is good now. My grave is good. It's just. Listen, I just wanted to play football. You hear me? My grandma used to.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I know.
Friend 1
Hey, my grandma used to say, and.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Your grades were indicative of that.
Friend 1
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Somebody that just wanted to play football.
Friend 1
Listen, I was a brilliant mind. I just wasn't focused. I wasn't. I wasn't focused. I'm just telling you. Listen, you can tell how smart I move, right? You can tell how smart I am, despite the jokes and entertainment. Think about how I moved and how successful I've been. Far removed from the game of football. You hear me? Yeah, I know my stuff now. I just.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You had to wake up. You had the wake up call like a lot of us had the wake up call.
Friend 1
Oh, yeah. Hey, listen, can I tell you something real quick? Going Zuco and being ineligible one year, you know, and seeing everybody pass me by and my back was against the wall. It was do or die.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Absolutely.
Friend 1
It was do or die.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Ain't nobody waiting around. Ain't nobody feeling sorry for you at all.
Friend 1
My grandma always said, baby, you need to focus on your books first and put football second. And I felt I was good enough to do it my way. And lo and behold, the one time I tried it her way was that one year that after being eligible at a two year institution, it took me three to get out of. I did it her way. Focus on school first. I did. Did my summer classes at west la. I did some at Southwest too, in la. Got myself together. Got that one for one at Oregon State. Man, look here, man. I ain't. I ain't looked back since then.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, well, we glad. We glad you figured it out.
Friend 1
Yeah. That. That's me. That's me. That's me. That's me.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, Joe. Jason. Kid said there some are comparing the Babe Ruth Luca with ad. They're comparing that trade to when Babe Ruth. The Red Sox traded Babe Ruth to the Yankees $400,000 because the owner wanted to finance a movie which is kind of cool in regards to the Luca trade. I mean, if you. The Yankees is pretty cool.
Friend 1
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Not if you're the Red Sox because it was 80 years. You was 80 years and you was cursed. So I don't know the prism or the lens in which J kid is looking at this through.
Friend 1
Right.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But he's on the wrong end of this trade currently. So for the Yankees, yes, it's very cool.
Friend 1
Right?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Excuse me. For the Lakers, it's very cool like it was for the Yankees because they got Babe Ruth. The team that traded Babe Ruth. There was an 80 year stretch where it wasn't good.
Friend 1
It wasn't good. And I think the lens that he's looking at it from, he's looking at it on, on how great Babe Ruth was not only when he left the Red Sox, Red Sox, but what he was able to do for the Yankees once he got there. And I think Jason King can also see long term the visual effects of having Luca and how consistent he's going to be with the Lakers. And it's almost a shot as his own organization, huh? Yeah, it's a shot at his own organization because how could we do this where you're comparing the trade of Luca to the Lakers to that of Babe Ruth leaving the red socket to go to the Yankees?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, because we know what he did for the Yankees. It catapulted them and put them in a stratosphere. And they now, as far in terms of baseball, they're the number one baseball team in, I mean, hey, the Yankee Pinstripe. Nobody else, nobody else has a, a Yankee Pinstripe, right? Or has a, a, a, A signature or, or, or Seville, Savile Roll, whatever you want to call it, where they're named after something like, man, them, the Yankee Pinstripe. Nobody else has that Beirut trade. Boston and New York for cash. Universally regarded as one of the worst sports trades in history. The Yankees became the Yankees. The Red Sox cup suffered a curse of the Bambino by not winning the world series for 86 years. I don't know if the Dallas fans are going to be. Be happy if they don't win a championship for 86 years.
Friend 1
Well, it's likely looking to going down that way. Unless someone magical comes along in free agency. Someone magical comes along. That's a one and done in college. It ain't looking too pretty.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, let's see what happens when Kyrie gets back. Hey, stop. When Kyrie gets back. AD with the team, they have, they have Gafford, they have Lively, they got three Live, active bodies that you can play AD at the four. Now when you really need him, you can play him at the five late in the ball game, which he likes to be, which he plays his best when he's at the four, but he can play the five last five minutes of the ball game. So you got three active bigs with Gaffer, AD and Lively. Likely. It's likely. Lively, Lively, lively there, huh? Yeah, Lively the second. So once you get him, Kyrie, Nick Marshall has played really well. Let's see, Clay. Clay has had some really good games. He's been off. Obviously, we know Clay is not what he once was, but he can get hot, he can catch fire.
Friend 1
Yeah, most definitely.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Let's see. Right now is really not the time. I know everybody's looking at the trade in a vacuum because what the Lake Sense, what Luke is doing for the Lakers, and especially what he did last night.
Friend 1
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But let's give this trade a year or two, then we can really assess it says. Okay, because what happens if the Mavericks are in the finals? What happens if they turn this thing around? So, no, I think with Kyrie. I think with Kyrie. Ocho, we know Kyrie is a, Is a, is a. Is an all star.
Friend 1
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Anthony Davis is all NBA and an all star. So two of those guys with the teams that they got, obviously, they, they could probably make some moves.
Friend 1
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Now what's to say they don't make a moving. Could possibly land kd. Now, are you still upset?
Friend 1
No, I'm. I'm. I'm not KD.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Kyrie and A.D. hold on. We.
Friend 1
We keep. We keep talking about Kyrie. Listen, I love Kyrie. I love everything that he does, right. Everything that he can do, especially being one of the greatest dribblers and great dribblers of, of the ball and being able to. To create his own shot. But Unki's coming off an ACL tear. Do we know what Kyrie we're getting coming off of that? Can he come back and still have the same lateral movement, the same quickness, still be able to do the same things he did that made him special when he has a ball in his hands? We don't know that yet.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I believe he will, considering the way medicine is and the way these guys come back? Now, it used to be a death sentence when you had an ACL back in the 70s, maybe even the 80s, but now with the way medicine is. Oh, these guys coming back in seven, eight months. Now, basketball players, they normally err on the side of caution, so it probably. He probably won't be back until after the new year. So 26 prop possibly would be the earliest that you're going to see Kyrie, but I have no doubt in my mind that he's going to come back and be the same Kyrie. He's still going to be dynamic, he's still going to be electric. And now you pair him with AD and who knows what they're going to do there. I don't believe they're expanding, Pat. They obviously. Look, there's a reports out there that the Suns are going to have to do something because the way they're constructed, even with kd, even with Book, even with Bradley, Bill, they're going to miss the playoffs. They're not even in the play in. So you can't keep this team the same.
Friend 1
Right.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So you're paying 300 plus million dollars. You got 300 plus million dollars tied up in three guys and you missed the playoff in its entirety. You got to blow it up. Yeah, you got to blow it up.
Friend 1
Katie is leaving. I know that.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Kd, Bill, I mean, hey, you got to get. You got to move on because it's not. It's not, it's not working. It hasn't worked. And when they, and a matter of fact, when they made the playoffs, if I'm not mistaken, I think they got swept. So you get swept, you miss the playoffs, it's. It's over. Yeah, it's over. So let's see what, let's see what they do. But yeah. J. Kid, I don't know. I mean, you looking at this thing, I think you look at it upside down. Had you got Luca, you could say, yeah, we can compare this. But.
Friend 1
Right.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Y'all ship Luke out.
Friend 1
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So I guarantee you the Red Sox weren't once Babe Ruth started knocking the ball over the fence and they started winning World Series. Yeah. I don't think they were this happy as they thought they were going to be.
Friend 1
Yeah, you got to look at it though, for Jason Kidd to say what he's saying as a head coach of the Dallas Mavericks, it just tells you how special Luka was to where you're even using that in comparison to that trade that long ago. Again, it's a low blow and it's a shot at management. How could you do something like this? How could you have a trade of this magnitude? Because he's comparing it to that of Babe leaving the Red Sox.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right. And plus, the thing is, Luke is 26. He didn't ask to be traded. Babe Ruth didn't ask to be traded. You know, the owner wanted to finance a play and he needed money and hey, it happened. And they traded, if I'm probably mistaken because they're in the same division now. I don't know if they were back then, but you traded him to a division rival. So it's crazy that it happened. But hey, I don't know if crazier things have happened, but we'll see, right? But I think you're gonna have to give this deal. I can't look at it this year. Kyrie got hurt. AD was hurt for a large part, a large stretch. I think he missed 20 plus games after he got there. Played great the first three quarters of a game and was outstanding. And then he got injured and he missed some time. So let's see over the next two to three years how this trade play out because we might look at it. Hey might look at it totally different.
Friend 1
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Devin Booker spoke about the Suns missing the play in. He said it's been a slow bleed out. I've been feeling this way the majority of the season. Does the sun missing the playoffs change your view on KD's legacy?
Friend 1
No, absolutely not. I don't think it changes his legacy. There's only so much KD can do. KD still, regardless to them missing the playoffs will be one of the greatest scores of all time. Nothing will change that. I think the chase of having super teams, I think it's come to an end now. I think it's come to an end. KD's probably going to be. He will move on somewhere else. Where he goes, I'm not sure. I think he will try to get another title or two. So wherever he chooses to go, I'm sure management might not cooperate. But probably give him that grace in sending him somewhere where he wants to play and where he has a chance of winning a title. I don't think Devin Booker is going to be there as well. I think, I think I'm not going to use it. I hate using the term. You. You watch a welcome, you don't want to stay too long. Similar to what stay with the Blazers a little too long because he wanted to be loyal.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, no. You talk about. You talking about. You talking about KG with the Timberwolves.
Friend 1
No, no, no, no, no, no. With the trailblazers.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Dame$ yeah.
Friend 1
Dame Dane. Dang. I don't want Devin Booker to, to. To do that, you know. I don't want you to wear out your welcome and try to be loyal to a franchise that really, really isn't going anywhere give chance to compete at a championship or at least make the playoffs to get past the first round. So I think both of them are probably going and you know, the Suns are going to have to scrap everything and really, really start all over.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But this is where I would disagree with you. This notion that we put drop Kevin Durant in and that team is automatically a championship contending team is just no longer true. We've seen him get dropped in at Brooklyn. He got swept and he got to the second round. He had a 32 lead and he lost two games, the game seven on his court. We see him go to Phoenix with Devin Booker and Bradley Beal.
Friend 1
Yes, sir.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
While his legacy might not be altered, it may or may not, let's see, once his career is done. But this notion that you drop Kevin Durant in anywhere and they are a championship contending team is no longer true. It's no longer true. And I don't think I defy the person that can argue that point and say, Shannon, it is true. We saw him with Kyrie. We saw him with James Harden. We saw him with Devin Booker, we saw him with Bradley Beal.
Friend 1
Right.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The only thing that we know is Steph Curry, Draymond and Klay Thompson. That was a team that won 73 games the year before he got there and it blew a 31 lead. They beat a team Kevin Durant was on. The same was on the team that blew the 31 lead to Golden State.
Friend 1
Right.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Golden State turned around and blew a 31 lead to the Cleveland Cavaliers. So with that being said, I think it's going to be hard pressed for any analysis, for any historian, for any player in the NBA as great as Kevin Durant is to say that you just drop him in and they're a championship contending team is not, not true. It's not true because we've seen, we've seen it.
Friend 1
Hold on. Even with him being able to score the way he can.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So what happened? So could you not score in Brooklyn?
Friend 1
Well, remember everything went haywire in Brooklyn with Kyrie.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay. What happened in Phoenix? Oh, you see, we keep, we keep, we keep saying see. You keep coming up with excuses.
Friend 1
Well, I'm just telling you what. It's not excuses if it's documented on what happened. Kyrie was in Kyrie. You know, I'm not sure what was wrong with Kyrie. James Harden, James Harden wanted out. I mean, it seemed like everything fell apart from, from what looked good that I thought even, I thought, you know, as, as, as somewhat of a basketball fan, I'm like, oh, well, the Nets, they definitely gonna be. They gonna have a shot. They definitely coming out East. That's what I thought until, you know, Kyrie was disgruntled. James Harden got upset. He wanted out. And KD was like, so why. Yeah, by himself.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Why did James Harden want to get out?
Friend 1
I have no idea. I don't know what type of internal issues they were having. Just from the outside looking in, I thought it was a good look.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, y'all stop, Listen. See, every time we have a conversation, they try to slide LeBron. That's not true because LeBron went to Miami. Okay, what were they doing before LeBron arrived in Miami? When LeBron left, how long before they got back to another NBA Finals? When LeBron went to Cleveland, how long before they returned to the Finals? They went all four years. They won one. Kyrie got hurt in the overtime of Game one. Kevin Love never played in that series. He goes to the Lakers, and in the second year, they win a title. So this notion that where LeBron James goes the rings don't follow. It's just not true. Because we've seen him move three times. In all three locations, there's a trophy, and he's the Finals MVP.
Friend 1
Right?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So this notion that LeBron James doesn't move the needle is just not true. You might not like him. You can call him all the names you want, but it's factual. It's factual, pure and simple. I get it. He's the most. I mean, he has a Ken doll. Now, the first athlete to have be a Ken Ambassador. Very unique. Unbelievable. They got all the details right? But this notion, guys, come on now. Let's be fair. See, y'all blame. So he's in Phoenix. He got Devin Booker, who's an All Star. Bradley Beal was an All Star. They missed the playoffs with three All Stars. They missed the playoffs. They got swept the first year. Come on, man. Cleveland seems to be doing fine without him. How long is LeBron? Hold on. How long has LeBron been in LA?
Friend 1
Or. It's been four years.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Like seven years. 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24. Six years. Okay, so six years now. I know. After LeBron left. Give me the peak. Darius Garland. What peak was Darius Garland? Because if you're doing well, you're not picking Darius Garland. Darius Garland was the top five picker, am I correct? He was a field pick in the draft. What. What about Sexton? What pick was he?
Friend 1
Colin. Colin Sexton.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What pick was Evan Mobley? So this notion y'all talking about Cleveland seem to be just fine. They should be. They got a. Evan Mobley was the third pick in the draft. Darius Garland was the fifth pick in the draft. Okoro was the fifth pick in the draft. What pick was. What pick was Sexton? Mobley was three. Sexton. Coral was five. Garland was five. What about Sexton? They ended up trading him to get Donovan Mitchell. He was a lottery pick. Yeah, he was eight, so I damn sure hope so. They doing just fine now.
Friend 1
It took a while.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You got. You got a top, you got two top. You got three. You got three top five picks. Yeah, three. Come on now. Y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all don't want to argue this. Y'all. Y'all really don't. I got time tonight. I got time tonight. Y'all don't really want to know. Yeah, y'all know I do. I do this for a living. I do this for a living. Y'all don't want to argue the facts. Facts. On April 18th, centers are coming. From Oscar nominated filmmaker Ryan Coogler, director of Black Panther and Creed, starring Michael B. Jordan, comes the Moshe picture event of the year. Twin brothers Smoke and Stack, both played by Michael B. Jordan, return to their hometown for a fresh start, only to discover that an unspeakable evil is waiting to welcome them back. Don't miss the genre bending thrill ride shot with IMAX film cameras, Sinners arrive only in theaters on April 18th. Rated R under 17. Not admitted without parent.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I.
Friend 1
Like Katie to Miami though. I just want, I just want to throw that at y'all.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ocho, I don't see here's the problem that you have when you trade for kd because you're gonna have to give up so much to get him. Because people want to. Because they gave up so much to get him. Think about what they gave up. What they traded a Mikhail Bridges, a Cam Johnson, four first round picks. So I need to replenish my cupboard, my pantry for what I lost. Giving him up. Now you're never going to get equal value back.
Friend 1
There you go. So already knowing that they can only ask for so much because there is no equal value out there in the NBA outside of players that are untouchable. Outside of players that are going to be untouchable, right?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And so that's the thing, Ocho. But see here, like him going to Golden State because let's just say Golden State had to trade for him. They would have probably had to give up Clay or Draymond. They would have had to give up a piece. But because he was a free agent, right?
Friend 1
It made it easy. Boom.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Made it easy. I ain't got to give up anything. And he took a Friendly deal. He could have got more. He took a little less money. Okay? He goes to Brooklyn. He's a free agent. They don't have to give up anything. So now you can trade those pieces. Kyrie was a free agent. They go together. James Harden comes. You had to give up some, but now you got Harden, you got Kyrie, and you got KD for whatever happened. James Harden sees where it's going, is like, man, we can't win here. He wanted to trade. You trade for Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons was damaged in Philly. I knew from the time they lost that. They lost that to Atlanta. I said it was done because once I heard Doc talk after the game, I heard Joel Embiid talk after the game. Go back and look it up. I said, he's done there. It'll never be the same. It's done. Now. You get him, not Kyrie. You have the COVID situation. Kyrie doesn't take the COVID vaccination. He has the issue where he tweeted the link. Okay, Whatever happened, it happened, right? He moved. Katie's like, bro, it is what it is. It's not going to work. Let me go somewhere. He wanted to go to Phoenix. He likes book. Seems like a great. But you got it. But see, when you trade, the same thing with Melo when he went to the Knicks, you have to give up so much to get him. You looking at that team, you're like, well, damn, man, I really like that. They nice over there. When you get there, they've given up all the top two, three of the top picks and draft picks. Well, how do you. How do you build a team? Ocho? Yeah. You3D. You have no depth.
Friend 1
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
See, the difference is Boston drafted. Drafted. So we got. We got. We got our core right? Now, the first mistake that they made, Milwaukee, they traded for Dane. They give up Holiday. Well, it seems to me when you give. When you give up Dane. Portland says we're going young, Right. Boston said, we'll take Holiday. We'll take them up your hands. You get Derrick White on a deal early, you bring Big Al back.
Friend 1
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You made him whole. So now I can build around because I'm piecing things together. I don't really have to give up a whole lot because Portland wanted to go young. They weren't asking. They didn't ask for Jaylen Brown. They didn't ask for, well, obviously, Tatum, you're not getting him. And they swung the deal for Porzingas. Porzingas wanted out. He didn't want to play with Luca anymore.
Friend 1
Right?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He said, I'm tired of y'all blaming me for every damn thing. I'm gonna get out. So that's the problem that you have when you give up so much for kd. What do you have, Ojo? You could have two stars, but what about your bench? What about your depth? That's where the Celtics beat your ass. Yeah. When they come in with Pritchard, they come in with Hauser. They come in with Al Horford off the bench. You got three perimeter defenders with Holiday, with Derrick White and Jaylen Brown. Tatum can defend. Obviously, he's not like those guys, but he could defend. Yeah, you gotta have depth. OkC depth.
Friend 1
Damn, I don't like that.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's why Cleveland made the trade, to get DeAndre Hunter. They wanted to add strength to their bench. Because if you can't have a bench, that's what Golden State used to kick your ass. Cause if they had a lead, the second unit, the shot troops, would extend the lead. If you had. If the other team had the lead, they would cut into it or even the game up. Now, you bring kd, you bring Steph, you bring Draymond, you bring Clay back and run away from you.
Friend 1
Yeah. The way you make it sound, it's like, it's impossible. It's impossible for Katie to go anywhere. So he might as well stay in Phoenix because there's nowhere they can get the value of the conversation for him.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, the problem is he knows they tried to. They wanted. They would have. They. If KD would have said, yeah, I want to go, they would have moved it.
Friend 1
It was in the middle of the season. It was the middle of the season, so nothing could happen.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So what? Guess what? If they want to move you in the middle of the season, what the hell you think they'll do in the off season?
Friend 1
Oh, they gonna move. They're gonna move you? Yeah, they're going to do it.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, how do you think he arrived in Phoenix? It was available to see the trade.
Friend 1
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So he was.
Friend 1
Not.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Like, he wasn't. He's new to this, right? That's how he can arrive at things. I was there during the Super Bowl. It happened during the Super Bowl.
Friend 1
Right?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Remember I told you at our hotel? I walked the hotel, and I'm like, dad was a tall ass dude. It's gonna be. My thing is. It's just that you're gonna have to give up so much to get him. They're gonna want. I mean, if he goes to Miami, Ocho. Who do you think they're Gonna want. Are you gonna give up hero? You gonna give up? Bam. You're gonna give up what? Hot Smith. Was it Hot Smith Hotel. Which probably.
Friend 1
Probably, probably Tyler.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, they ain't. Pat R. Ain't giving up Tyler Hero. Where they got scary Terry Rozier. They gonna probably want to get up off him. Cause he's dealing with the. He's dealing with the stuff with the. The gambling and all that. He's been injured.
Friend 1
That's tough.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We could continue this. We'll come back after this. Ocho actually connecting now. Draft pick Amarion Hampton. He's the second team AP All American, first team All ACC running back, finalist for the Dope Walker Award. Led the team with 15 rushing touchdowns. Ranked third in the FBF with 1660 rushing yards. A former Gatorade North Carolina Mr. Football Player of the year and winner of the state's Mr. Football. Where your eyes set on UNC or oh, no? Omarion, I'm about to read. I'm about to read everything for you, bro.
G
How you doing?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm good, bro. How you doing, bro?
G
I'm doing good. How about you?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm doing great, bro. I see you repping caa. So that's the agency that you signed with?
G
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just recently enjoyed. They've been annoying me through the past season, so feel pretty good about them.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Good. Congratulations. Let me ask you this. Your Gatorade Mr. North Carolina. You're arguably you, obviously, so you win that award. That means you're the state's best football player. Why did you choose unc? Did you want to stay at home? Did you go to Georgia? Did you Alabama or anybody else? What was it about UNC that says, you know what? Home is where I want to be?
G
Yeah. Yeah. I took a picture to Florida. I took a picture to Auburn, Penn State, and then usc, and then I kind of narrowed it down to Penn State and unc. And then I kind of was just always up at UNC. It's like 50 minutes from my career.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay.
G
So it's like I got to know the teammates, I got to know the coaches. I feel like it. I feel like the. The playing style they had at the time, the offense they had at the time fit me well. So I feel like that was a big part of it, too. So I feel like all of that put it in together, so.
Friend 1
Hey, O. I want to ask you about your combine experience. I remember my combine experience being very ner. The unfamiliarity, having to be in front of scouts, being in front of, you know, that many people, and the pressures that came with it. How did. Was your experience at the combine and how do you feel you did?
G
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
G
I feel like it was definitely different. It was something I had adjust to just being in, like meeting after meeting at the meeting. Yeah, just going into that and then having to, like, run your 40 and do like all the competitive stuff on the last day. But I feel like. I feel like I did good on it. I feel like I was prepared for it. I feel like Brent, the guy I was training with, Brent Calloway, he did a good job with all his players and stuff like that. I feel like he helped us prepare for it well. So I feel like. I feel like I did well. So it was. It was a good experience. Just get to talk to all the head coaches and stuff. It was really cool.
Friend 1
If you had to take a guess on the coaches that you. And you know how you can get a feel. You get. You can get a feel on who likes you, and you can kind of get a feel on who doesn't based on the type of questions they ask you, based on how in depth they get with the personal questions. Outside of the game of football, if you had to take a guess, who do you think is leaning towards the drafting you on draft day?
G
Yeah. Yeah. I mean. I mean, whoever picked me, I'll be happy with, but I mean, it's a lot of teams who need a running back. So, I mean.
Friend 1
Yeah, I mean, whoever.
G
Whoever picked me, gonna get the best of me.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Really?
Friend 1
Yeah.
G
So I feel like I. I kind of don't look at all the little Jeff, stuff like that.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's where I was going to take it, because a lot of the mock draft, the latest mock draft, have you going to the Broncos now if you need to hook up, you know, hey, I know some people.
G
I wouldn't be mad at it, because.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
If you look at Marion, if you look at it, you see what Saquon was able to do. You see what Jameer Gibbs and you see what Josh Jacobs and you see what King Henry we see. You see the resurgence. There was a stretch for about a decade. The running back was not as. Not a decade, probably say six, seven years. The running back was not as valued as it seems to be currently is. And coming back. Why do you think that is? And what can you add? If a team I'm drafting and I draft Demarion, tell me, what type of player, what type of person am I getting?
G
Yeah, well, I mean, it's just for me, I feel like I love to see just like the Derrick Henry Saquons, just them doing their thing out there, I feel like it's putting more value in the position itself. I feel like if the team drafts me, they're going to get a three down back, they're going to get a guy that plays special teams. They got everybody can run in this league. So I feel like pass protection is a big thing I key on. I feel like catching out the backfield is another thing that I key on. Just learning the defense, learning like where the safeties are, learning how the linebackers move and stuff like that. Just different things like all the in depth stuff like that. So I mean just different stuff like that. I feel like it's helping me.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, I don't know, I mean I like. I mean unless you run comeback punts, a kickoff and I don't know if they're gonna put you out there on special team, you might have done played your last, your last special team snap in college.
Friend 1
Matter of fact. Matter of fact, I'm glad you just said that. You said you were three back obviously and then you said what you can do with pad protection. Then you brought up being able to catch the ball out the backfield. So that makes you that much more valuable than other running backs that can do all those things. Right. I'm telling you it does. It makes you special. So in, in hindsight, when you think about the type of running back you are and what you bring to the table, depending on who drafts you, who would your NFL comparison be right now as far as your playing style goes?
G
Yeah, yeah. For me I, I like to watch like a lot of guys like take tips off a lot of guys. I feel like Joe Mitson is kind of like a running style that I'm.
Friend 1
Like, okay, okay, okay.
G
I try to watch like I like Gibbs running style. Like I feel like Bijan is going to be crazy in the future. I feel like, I feel like all those guys really just like Saquon, like Saquons. I feel like everybody like really.
Friend 1
Okay, okay.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I like, go ahead.
Friend 1
No, I was just saying I like the Joe mixing comparison. That's a good one. That's a good one.
G
Yeah, I'm looking at some of them.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm looking at some of the running backs that's come out of unc, Todd Chandler, Michael Carter, Javante Williams and now yourself. Have you talked to any of those guys? Have they given you some tips about how to prepare for the NFL? What it's like once you get there in order to give you. Because you know, you kind of got a Little gps. You got guys that went to your school that can partake information that a lot of people don't have.
G
Yeah. Yeah. I feel like Javante, Michael Carter, Todd Chandler. I feel like even the Natron means. I feel like those are all my guys. Like, I can talk to him whenever I need something. Yeah, he's the dog. Yeah. I can talk to them whenever I need to. They help me out with stuff I need to. I take tips off them, too, so I feel like. Yeah, they're always a connection for me. I feel like.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, North Carolina used to have some great running backs. I don't know if you're probably a little young, but Derek Fenner, famous. Amos Lawrence went to North Carolina, but Derek Fenner, they ended up moving the tight end once he got to the NFL. But he was an outstanding running back at unc.
G
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I want to ask you this brother you named after Mariano B2K.
G
All day, so.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, because I've been proud of him. I don't know if I ever seen somebody with a name like a Mariana. So, damn, I'm like, hold on, let me ask this, man. Yeah, but your mom about, like, B2K back in the day, they definitely used.
G
To listen to them, but I don't know if I was named after them.
Friend 1
I got one. So UNC was sponsored by Jordan Brand, right, If I'm not mistaken.
G
Yeah, yeah. Sponsored by Jordan.
Friend 1
Going into the NFL. Going to the NFL. Who would be your dream partnership to be a part of going into NFL?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Would it.
Friend 1
Would you like to continue with Jordan Brand? Would you like to be with. Obviously that would be Nike as well. But, you know, Jordan Brand has own select players that are part of. You know that. That are part of Jordan would like to be with Nike Adidas. I mean, yeah, yeah.
G
Right now. Right now I'm signing with Nike, but, yeah, right now, I'm so Nike.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Friend 1
All right, all right. I like it.
G
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, bro, look, it don't matter. Cleats on feet mean people eat. So that's what you're trying to do right now. Yeah, it don't matter. Hey, they could be pony, they could be sockety, they could be puma. Hey, cleats on feet, people eat. Hold on, hold on.
Friend 1
Remember. Remember, you had pony cleats, too.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I did, yes.
Friend 1
I wore pony cleats my freshman year in high school.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Had Converse. Had Converse, too. Converse used to make cleats.
Friend 1
Okay, okay, okay, okay. Hey, when you're not grinding, right. When you're not grinding, what's your go to chill move Are you a gamer? You like music? You like movies, man, what you be on outside of the game of football?
G
Outside of the game, Football, I probably would be with the boys, playing basketball. I'd be hooping all the time. We going over, like, to the. Yeah, yeah. We'll be over at the rec center, just hooping up over there and stuff.
Friend 1
Okay, so United games.
Ryan Seacrest
No games.
Friend 1
No mad. No FIFA. No. No quality.
G
Yeah, I'll be on Call of Duty.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay.
Friend 1
All right, all right, all right.
G
Yeah.
Friend 1
You married?
G
Oh, yeah, Yeah, I got a girl, but I ain't married. I ain't married.
Friend 1
Okay.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Stay focused.
G
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Let me ask you. Let me ask you something more. Give me your top five running backs. If I said, okay, you get any. Any five running backs that you want from any era, I mean, so give me your top five running backs.
G
Yeah. I'm gonna say you gotta put Reggie Bush in there. I feel like you gotta put him in there. I feel like growing up, I was a big Marshall lynch fan. Okay. Marshalletz is in there too.
Friend 1
That boy.
G
Yeah, yeah. And then, let me see, I got for Saquon in there. Saquon. Now I'm gonna do. I'm gonna put Derrick Henry in there.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay, Put there Henry.
G
And then I'm probably missing. I'm missing a lot of people.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, you missing a lot of people because you ain't put nobody that came before 2000. Oh, they did play football before 2000, bro. I just want. I just want to throw that out there. That's your list. Hey, hey. I want you to take off all your list. But they did play the game of football before 2000.
G
I played a lot in this school now.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But you said you like Joe Mixon. So are you more like. You more run for power? You run more for, like, are you shifty? I mean, your combination?
G
Yeah, yeah. I try to add everything to my game, really. It's always room to grow. Trying to grow to do different things. I feel like trying to make. Make them juices, juking space, make them do different things, learn. Learn off different people. So I feel like it's always room to go to do different things. I try to be versatile. Versatile as much as I can.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right. Well, bro, we want to miss. Thank you for joining us.
Friend 1
One more question.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Go ahead.
Friend 1
I got one more question. If football didn't exist now, obviously we all need to have a plan B. You. You just NFL stand for not. Not for long. I'm not wishing nothing bad. It's just a question. You, in life, if you're playing if football didn't exist, let's say it didn't exist. What would your dream career be if you weren't playing football?
G
I feel like even what I'm doing now, I feel like if it won't, like, personal training with football, I feel like I would do personal training with, like, just fitness stuff. So I feel like going around doing personal training with, like, kids who didn't have, like, the opportunities that I had, like, smaller neighborhoods and stuff like that. I feel like that's something I want to do in the long run, just reaching out to those kids, giving them opportunities that I had. So I feel like that's one of the things I'll definitely look into.
Friend 1
That's a good one. That's a good one. That's dope. That's dope.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, thanks for giving us some of your time. We wish you the best of luck wherever you go, bro. Hey, it's not where. It's not how high you go, it's where you go. And once you get there, the journey really starts.
Friend 1
Yes, sir.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Your journey doesn't start just getting to the NFL. The journey starts once you arrive in the NFL. So Ocho and I want to wish you best of luck. Good night. Cap. Family want to wish you the best of luck and check back in when it's down the road.
Friend 1
Yeah, all right.
G
Appreciate that. Appreciate you having my own.
Friend 1
Right.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Appreciate you, bro.
Friend 1
Don't forget.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That'S a. Maran Hampton, the University of North Carolina running back projected to be a. A first round pick. Mock had him going to the. The Broncos, but we'll see. Since there has been a resurgence. We saw what Saquan did for the Eagles. We saw what Derrick Henry did for the Ravens offense, Jacobs for the Packers, Jameer Gibbs for the. For the Lions. We saw Joe Mixon, what he added to the Houston Texans. And so the running back is kind of like, hey, coming back. We saw the year before what C. Mac did for the 49ers.
Friend 1
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So the running back is definitely coming back. Guys that can run can catch it, but you got to be able to pass block because once they found that you can't pass block, they're gonna bless you. They're gonna make you stay in the time. They gonna make you stay. They gonna make you stay here, though. So we wish the young man the best of luck wherever he goes, but we're gonna keep an eye on him. We like to keep our loud on the guys that. That come on Nightcap and. And chop it up with a solo. So I can't wait to see what where he goes and how well he does. Ocho. Bruce Aryan, regarded as the quarterback whisperer, spoke about Anthony Richardson. He said, Anthony, I think needed two more years in college as a passer. I didn't see him as being able to beat anybody in two minute and third down. If you can't do that in the NFL, you're just an average guy. Ah, Eli.
Friend 1
Yeah, yeah, he's right, he's right. I have a question.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You got it. You got third, Ocho, you make your.
Friend 1
Money on third down every time. Listen, you hope, you hope to make your hay on first to make second and third a little easier, but yes, if you don't, the better the passer you are, the more easy it is convert those third downs. Now, obviously, I think the repetitions, obviously being in college would have helped him tremendously. If you look at the numbers, I don't have the numbers in front of me, so I don't want to state and be and be and be wrong statistically. But he didn't play that many games in college. Huh.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's what he said he should. And he wasn't. He wasn't a high completion percentage guy in college. So we're not playing a whole lot. And I get why he came out, Ocho.
Friend 1
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The Guy's a top five pick.
Friend 1
Oh, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He got 20 plus $25 million probably fully guaranteed. They ain't paying that in nil and collective.
Friend 1
No.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So I get why, right? I get why. You get why. His family gets why. Because at the end of the day, why are we doing this, Ocho? We try to set our families up. That's how we. That's how. I'm not saying. Oh, let me take that back here, Ocho. There's no such thing as all of every. But a lot of us, what we do this for is for our family.
Friend 1
Absolutely.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We're trying to get to the bag as soon as possibly can because everybody didn't grow up like a Grant Hill that had a two parent or the Mannings or the Watts. So we grew up in a situation a lot of times his grandma, a lot of times his mom and we trying to get there to get them out of that situation. So I get why he did it.
Friend 1
Right.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But what Bruce has said, and I totally agree, he could have gotten a lot more by staying and getting better at his craft.
Friend 1
Right.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But at the end of the day in the two minute drill and on third down is as a quarterback where you make your money, you got to.
Friend 1
Have it, you got to have it.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But.
Friend 1
But Unc, who's to say there are a lot of. There are a lot of quarterbacks in the NFL that have made it, that have stayed for four years, that have been there for a long time, that in those same situations and can burn third downs. So just because.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
His big message is also two minute drill, third down, if you can't do that, you're average. So he's not saying that he believed that he would have been better. Look at BA's record. Peyton Manning, Andrew, look, he worked with big Ben Roethlisberger.
Friend 1
Yes, sir.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Had had all those guys in the early stages.
Friend 1
Right.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He worked with. He had Carson. If I'm not. I think he had Carson.
Friend 1
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
In Arizona.
Friend 1
In Arizona, yeah. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay. So he knows something about the quarterback position. I like ba. BA gonna tell you like it is. It ain't no sugarcoat with BA now.
Friend 1
Yeah, yeah. Most definitely.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
If it come. Hey, if it comes up, it's coming out.
Friend 1
Yeah. It was also one of the issues over there in Tampa now, remember?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, absolutely.
Friend 1
That's why they sent his ass upstairs.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So I believe, because here's the thing, ocho, he's a 50. He was a 50, maybe a 50% completion guy in college. If you're 50% in college. 50, he's 46. Put it like this here. He had a worse completion percentage than tebow in the NFL. And you know Tebow was 47%. It was worse than Tebow's. So you know you're not going to be successful for OO with the way the field is faced now, the way they protect the quarterback, the way they protect the receiver.
Friend 1
Right, right.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Everybody should be completing 60%.
Friend 1
Yeah, yeah. Actually you should. Because to me, I'm not saying the game is easy, but they made the offensive game much easier.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
Friend 1
And so that's why the defenders and defense are handicapped.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So now it used to be if you completed in the high 50s, boy, you had a hell of a season.
Friend 1
Oh yeah. Oh, absolutely.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You had a hell of a 90s when I got to the league and even before Pocho, if you threw for 3,000 yards was the standard. If you threw for 3,000 yards. Because everybody ran the football. That's why many believe Dan Marino still has the greatest statistical passing season. Even though they passed him for yards. They passed him for touchdowns. He threw for four for 5,000 yards and 48 touchdowns in that era.
Friend 1
The running error. Yeah, yeah, Duper. And Clayton was eating. Boy.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Boy, did you know what they did? Look, I came in when they, they knock. They knocked your ass off. There was no part of the quarterback that was off limits.
Friend 1
Right.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The only thing, you couldn't hit him at the bottom of his feet. And that's cause he was standing on him. Other than that, everybody was a green light from the top of the head to the top of your feet.
Friend 1
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You remember I sent you that clip what Charles Martin did to Jim McMahon?
Friend 1
Oh, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh yeah. He was just standing there and he looked around like, oh, I got you.
Friend 1
What?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, that was commonplace.
Friend 1
Oh yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Go back and look. Bruce Smith jumps outside. That's why they call unabated to the quarterback. Bruce jumped off slides, knocked Boomer silent out of the game for like weeks. It was the game for weeks football. It was anything goes. Anything. And so they made it easier so for a quarterback to be in the 40s.
Friend 1
Right, right.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, Lord.
Friend 1
Holy bad.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's bad. It's oo, he's got to get up to the mid-50s. He's got to get it up to the mid-50s. Oo, I have a question.
Friend 1
Do you think a quarterback struggling to have a high percentage or high completion percentage, do you think that's because of his supporting the cast around him is not good enough?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Man, he got some. Hey, you see what he got them receivers, he got. He got Jonathan Taylor in the background. We didn't forgot to mention Jonathan Taylor. We didn't mention him on joke.
Friend 1
And honestly, having Jonathan Taylor back there. It should make anything having to do with the passing game that much effing easier.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
Friend 1
Because I know they got. I know they got to say. I know they got a safety in the box.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely.
Friend 1
Listen.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And you got Pittman. They got Pittman. They got another receiver, too. That's really good. They got. I forget his name.
Friend 1
Number 10. Number 10, huh?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes. Oh, yes.
Friend 1
Hey, Chad. Who? Oh, hey, I apologize. I apologize for the disrespect, but young bull, Whoever wears number 10. I forget your name, boy. I'm telling you here, out of my mouth, boy. You is the real deal, boy. You the real deal. And I apologize if I remember your name, boy. Young boy. You're the real deal, boy.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, yeah.
Friend 1
What's his last name?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Monk. Okay.
Friend 1
Oh, man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They got Michael Pittman Jr. What's that guy? What's the other receiver? Alex Pierce. Alec Pierce.
Friend 1
That's number 10. Name? Alex Pierce.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And downs, they got Josh Downs, Alec Pierce, Michael Pittman Jr. I think the tight end is Mo. Ali Cox. And they got Jonathan Taylor and they had Braden Smith. Took some time away. He was dealing with some. Dealing with some things. They got a nice offensive line. Yeah, there's. There's no reason. There's none right. For him to be completing less than 50% of his passes because he missed a lot of throws, Ocho. And I say, bro, you don't have to throw everything through the eye of a hurricane.
Friend 1
Gotta touch. You gotta touch. You gotta have.
G
Yes.
Friend 1
You gotta have some finesse to your game. You gotta have some finesse. I'm trying to think what quarterback is labeled having a very.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Mitchell. Mitchell. Mitchell is number 10, Ocho.
Friend 1
Hey, well, you don't know his first name.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Adam Mitchell. Yeah, you say whatever it is, he could cook.
Friend 1
Hey, he be cooking. Hey, brother. Brother Mitchell, I apologize. I will never forget your name again. But I'm gonna tell you one thing. I'm gonna give you fly.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They got some nice receivers over there, Ocho.
Friend 1
I'm talking about nice, nice. And I wouldn't.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
There's no reason for him.
Friend 1
Mitchell has a bigger role coming this season.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
There's no reason for him to be completing 46% of his passes with that type of receive receiving corp. With that offensive line and with Jonathan Taylor in your backfield.
Friend 1
Well, listen, he. He might be better this year. You. You never know. You have a whole off season to work on things. Work on the things. You need to work on going into having another mini camp, another training camp up under your belt, you know, familiarity with the system. You're in. I think. I think. And hoping. Hoping this year he plays.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Gotta put the time in.
Friend 1
Yeah, you got to. I'm hoping he plays with a lot more confidence and he'll be fine.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Gotta put it. You gotta put the time in.
Friend 1
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Gotta put the time in. And if he does that, remember we had. We had Pittmanone. Yeah. Who else? We. We talked to the people like, hey, bro, he. He. He can't be the first. You can't be the. The. The last one in and the first one to leave. Yeah, it's got to be the ver. It's got to be first.
Friend 1
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Reverse the first one in.
Friend 1
The last one to leave.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Not the last. First, first, last.
Friend 1
Right.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But I hopefully. Hopefully he gets it figured out because like I said, I think they got. Look, that's a very competitive division.
Friend 1
Oh, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You got. You got Houston. C.J.
Friend 1
Shroud.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Houston gonna be. You got Lawrence, you have Cam Ward in that division. Look, if you go back and study it, Ocho, look at it. It's a quarterback league.
Friend 1
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Look at the NFC East.
Friend 1
Oh, look at the.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Look at the afc. Look at the AFC west, what they have in the West. Look at these divisions. That'll tell you who's winning it.
Friend 1
Yeah. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Quarterbacks. Because that's what you got to compete against. I know they're not on the field at the same time, but you have to match him. You can't like, oh, our defense go to hold that. If I throw for 170 yards, we gonna. No. You might win one or two games like that, but you're gonna have to match that production every time. So hopefully, hopefully AR gets this thing figured out and get this thing turned around. Shadour Sanders met with the Pittsburgh Steelers today and was impressed by the visit. He even said Mike Tomlin reminds him of his father. Coach Sanders, Steelers was great. I understand why they win so much, why Mike Tomlin is the way he is. He resembles my dad a little bit. They have the same principles. Shador reportedly does not want to be taken top three per NBC. I believe ideally he would like to go to New Orleans. I believe that's where he would really like to go.
Friend 1
Of all places, New Orleans.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yep.
Friend 1
Can you explain why you would want to go to New Orleans? Just curious.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You look at. You look at the receiver core they got. They got Chris Olave, 22. What's the name? What's the name?
Friend 1
The speed Rashid. No.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Rashi. Yes. Yes, yes, yes.
Friend 1
Yeah. Hey, that young bull can run, boy. You hear me?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yep.
Friend 1
Yeah. He. He can run the tight end.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Juwan Johnson.
Friend 1
Yeah, I think.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I think that's the tight end. Alvin Camara is still there.
Friend 1
Oh, that's nice. That's nice. Okay.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Indoors.
Friend 1
Now you cooking. You. Now you making sense. You make. You making sense to me. I just. I don't. He's not going to be there with what the Saints pick.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What, nine?
Friend 1
He ain't finna be. He's not gonna be there at 9.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But here's the thing. Once he gets. Once he gets past the top three. Ocho, nobody needs a quarterback.
Friend 1
He's not getting.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You're not thinking about.
Friend 1
He's not three.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ocho. Jacksonville not gonna take a quarterback back. Tennessee.
Friend 1
The Giants need a quarterback.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Tennessee. Take a care. Ward. Tennessee has canceled. They canceled Shador. They canceled Travis Hunter. What does that tell you? They canceled the visit. They reached out to the agency. We're going to respectfully decline. Hopefully you guys understand. What does that tell you?
Friend 1
Who are they taking?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They're taking Cam Ward.
Friend 1
And what. What happens if they pull a belly flop and then. And then take Abdul Car Carter? You know, listen. You know how the NFL works. They. They had you thinking one thing and they do another.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Let me ask you a question.
Friend 1
Talk to me.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Does Cam. Does Abdul Carter make them better right now or does a quarterback makes them. Remember we just talked about. What do you need in that division?
Friend 1
Quarterback.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Quarterback.
Friend 1
Yeah, absolutely.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Lawrence Stroud, you said you believe Anthony Richardson's gonna be better.
Friend 1
Okay, you right. You right. But listen, you know what? I look at and I look at Abdul Carter and I see him similar to that of a Von Miller, similar to that of a Michael Parsons, being able to change and impact the game tremendously. A play right now type of player. Oh, that's a good one. Because I'm not talking about. Just know any type of player. I see Abdul Carter as a transcending talent, a generational talent similar to the two players that I just named. But Cam Ord isn't you right. You right. You can't go against that.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I believe they canceled all visits. Okay, if you.
Friend 1
Bless you.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Blessings. It's hard for me to believe, Ocho.
Friend 1
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That you're going to take a guy with the first overall pick and you don't have an individual meeting with him. Right.
Friend 1
You're right.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Now there might be a situation on down the line. Somebody go in the first round and they're like, I didn't even meet with these guys. But you talk about a top three pick and you don't meet with them.
Friend 1
Okay, you Right, right. Listen, but I, I just, I'm not.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Saying it can't happen.
Friend 1
Right.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But the likelihood. Cause guess what, Ocho, you know, the first pick in the draft gets 40 to 45 million fully guaranteed. His contract is fully guaranteed. The first four years. It's fully guaranteed.
Friend 1
Yeah, listen, I mean, listen, I'm. I'm wishing both of those young Bulls luck, obviously, whether they get Abdul Card or whether they get Cam Ward. Cam Ward is going to be a tremendous tre talent, you know, being able to carry. Carry over what he was able to do at UM and come into a program and not revi. Revitalizing them offensively. And they, they almost look like the U of O from the early 2000s. So I'm sure he's going to do, you know, his, his due diligence in trying to revive the Tennessee Titans and, and some of the mistakes they've had to deal with with brother Will Levis and yes, Malik Willis and, you know, some, some of those guys. It's been a merry little.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Little competent in Green Bay. Bay. He looks confident in Green Bay.
Friend 1
Look very good. When Jordan Love. When Jordan Love was. He was balling.
G
Yes.
Friend 1
But listen, it's easy to ball when you got Reed and Hicks and Watson and Romeo Dubs and all. All those dudes around you. So I like it.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Tennessee has the first pick. Cleveland, the Giants, Patriots, Jacksonville, Vegas, Jets, Carolina, New Orleans, Chicago, San Fran, Dallas.
Friend 1
And it's so funny, we know the.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Top three teams could use a quarterback.
Friend 1
Yes, sir.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It seems Cleveland is leading towards Travis or Abdul Carter. The question is the Giants really controls it. What does the giants do at 3?
Friend 1
They need a quarterback. They don't have a choice. They don't have a choice. And not a quarterback to come in and play right now. A quarterback to sit behind Russell Wilson and James Winston and Danny Vito and learn the game. You need a quarterback for the future. You have two quarterbacks on one year deals. You need a quarterback for the foreseeable future.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Look, I've given Jackson. Look, I've given Will Levis. Will Levis has had Calvin Ridley and he had D Hop and he had number 85. I can't even pronounce his last name. They need a quarterback, right?
Friend 1
Damn.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So I can see that. I can see them taking a quarterback. Have him learn for a year with Russ. Russ did a one year deal. I like it. Yeah, the Giants are going to be the key. Yeah, the Giants are going to be the key.
Friend 1
You know what's funny? Is it funny you just, you just mentioned a draft Order. Ain't no telling what's going to happen the day of the draft. Ain't no telling. There might be a player that's someone that's picking 7, 8, or 9, and they sneak up and make sure they grab the. The actual individual I want, and it changes up everything on who and who goes where.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Him. True. You. You. That's possible. That's very possible.
Friend 1
You never know.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We've seen that. We've seen that happen.
Friend 1
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But it's going to be interesting, I think. I. I think, for me. What are the odds? What are the odds? What's DraftKings giving us on.
G
On.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
On Tennessee tanket cam war.
Friend 1
They got. They got the odds out already.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, yeah. Hell yeah.
Friend 1
Wait, when is the draft? What day? I mean, April. What?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
24Th.
Friend 1
Okay. We still got two weeks. Okay.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Don't have a lot yet, I was going to say.
Friend 1
Well, it's kind of early.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm thinking that considering they see everybody. Don't cancel those workouts. They probably are gonna even give you no odds. Probably minus 2000. Does anybody have odds out draft king y'all wanted to talk about? Y'all need to put some odds out. I'll chat like odds, bro. This joker here, fighter.
Friend 1
What's up? What?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Thought you were talking to you.
Friend 1
Come out. Go down here to Miami. I got plenty of room for you now.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, you seeing he buying TVs he talking about what type of car should I get? Should I get a McLaren? I'm taking food off your table.
Friend 1
I would just think about it. I would just think about it. You know, McLaren right here.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But you ain't think about paying me, though, huh?
Friend 1
No, no, I'mma pay you. I told you, I'mma pay you. That the money. The money ain't the problem. The money ain't the problem. I'mma pay you.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Cam Ward being the first quarterback, selected it. If mine was 20,000.
Friend 1
Jesus.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Thank you. Thank you. You'd be a fool.
Friend 1
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
To take that.
Friend 1
Right.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So we shall see in a couple of weeks.
Friend 1
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But I think the key is at 3:00. Yeah, I think. Because I think Cleveland. I think Cleveland. Cleveland's going to take one of those defenders.
Friend 1
What, Abdul? Abdul or Travis?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yep. Because you know what? I can put Travis at wide receiver and pairing with Jerry Judy.
Friend 1
Oh, that's nasty. And have some packages for him at db.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Friend 1
Can you imagine? Can you imagine Denzel Ward on one side and.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And.
Friend 1
And. And then Travisome coming at Greg Newsome and Travis coming in at the Knicks.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
People on certain, man, yeah, put, put, put Newsom in the slot, right? Let travel.
Friend 1
Go outside.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Go outside.
Friend 1
Yeah, that's nasty. I like that. I like that combination. I like that combination.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So it's gonna be. We shall see. We shall see. I think the kids at the Giants at 3. New England not taking a quarterback. Jacksonville is not taking a quarterback. You. New England's not taking a quarterback. They just took a quarterback at three and they. They really like this kid. Brable has been abundantly clear one of the reasons he took the job. You know, they always say that. Because of the quarterback. No, it was a head coaching job and they gave you a lot of money. That's why you took the job. But hey, it sounds good at the time. Hey, I'm. I'mma rock with it, right?
Friend 1
My dog, my homie wanted sign. But okay, man, I swear.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I need to get you a podcast. Come on. Come on. I need to get you a podcast. What can you do? Can you do anything? Can you do anything? Oh, stop, bro.
Friend 1
My dog work.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I see you. I love you too, buddy. I love you too. I love you too. You did a real good job today. You ate all your farmer's dog. So. Yeah, of course. I like chicken and turkey. Chicken and the turkey. My faith.
Friend 1
I gave him some chicks at the dog park out here, man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You had. Man, he ain't fixed. He can't go to no dog park.
Friend 1
That's the whole point.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Man. They take better. You have my daughter put my dog down, man. Hell no. No. Hell no. Hey, hey. Let me come see you. The volume. Protect your end zone with the best clean. Pants down. Dude Wipes come in a variety of scents and sensations like mint chill and Shay Shay butter to keep your backside protected with 100 plant based natural fibers. Don't fumble the ball with TP wetter just cleans better. Stop being an A hole to your B hole and make the trade of the season with Switch to Dude Wipes, the MVP of Clean. Available at Amazon and major retailers nationwide. Dude Wipes Best Clean, hands down.
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Podcast Summary: Club Shay Shay – Nightcap Episode 1
Release Date: April 11, 2025
Title: Nightcap - Hour 1: Luka Trade Compared to Babe Ruth Trade, Booker on the Suns' Bad Season, + Omarion Hampton Joins the Show to Talk About the Draft!
Hosts: Chad Ochocinco Johnson and Friend 1
Guest: Omarion Hampton
In this engaging episode of Club Shay Shay titled "Nightcap," NFL legend Shannon Sharpe, alongside hosts Chad Ochocinco Johnson and Friend 1, delves deep into significant sports trades, analyzes the Phoenix Suns' disappointing season, and welcomes rising star Omarion Hampton to discuss his upcoming draft prospects. The episode is a blend of insightful analysis, personal anecdotes, and expert opinions, making it a must-listen for sports enthusiasts.
Discussion Overview:
The hosts kick off the episode by drawing a historical parallel between the NBA's Luka Trae trade and the iconic Babe Ruth trade in baseball. They explore the implications, long-term effects, and organizational shifts resulting from such high-profile transactions.
Key Points:
Historical Context: The trade of Babe Ruth from the Boston Red Sox to the New York Yankees is cited as one of the most impactful trades in sports history, leading to both teams experiencing significant changes.
Current Trade Analysis: Comparing Luka Trae's movement to Babe Ruth's, the hosts discuss how such trades can redefine a franchise's trajectory, fan base, and performance in the league.
Notable Quotes:
Chad Ochocinco Johnson (12:36): "They’re comparing that trade to when Babe Ruth left the Red Sox for the Yankees. The Yankees became the Yankees, and the Red Sox faced an 80-year curse."
Friend 1 (13:26): "It was 80 years, and it was cursed. So I don't know the prism or the lens Jason Kidd is looking at this through."
Insights:
Discussion Overview:
Shifting focus to the NBA, the hosts analyze the Phoenix Suns' underwhelming performance during the season. Devin Booker's perspective provides an insider's view of the team's challenges and areas needing improvement.
Key Points:
Season Performance: Devin Booker reflects on the Suns' slow regression and consistent difficulties throughout the season, ultimately leading to missing the playoffs.
Legacy of Kevin Durant (KD): Booker asserts that the Suns' struggles do not tarnish KD's legacy, highlighting his individual brilliance despite team setbacks.
Notable Quotes:
Friend 1 (20:28): "Does missing the playoffs change your view on KD's legacy? No, absolutely not."
Devin Booker (21:38): "The chase of having super teams has come to an end. KD will likely move on to another team where he can chase another title."
Insights:
Introduction of Guest:
The episode welcomes Omarion Hampton, a standout running back from the University of North Carolina, projected to be a first-round pick in the upcoming NFL Draft. Omarion shares his journey, draft preparations, and future aspirations.
Key Points:
College Experience: Omarion discusses his decision to attend UNC, citing familiarity with teammates, coaches, and the offensive system as pivotal factors.
Combine Experience: He reflects on the challenges of the NFL Combine, highlighting the importance of preparation and adaptability in high-pressure environments.
Draft Predictions: Omarion shares his thoughts on potential NFL teams interested in drafting him, emphasizing his versatility as a runner and receiver.
Notable Quotes:
Omarion Hampton (39:05): "I felt like the playing style and the offense at UNC fit me well, which was a big part of my decision."
Friend 1 (43:24): "If football didn't exist, your dream career would be personal training, helping kids in smaller neighborhoods. That's admirable."
Omarion Hampton (42:02): "Pass protection and catching out of the backfield are key areas I focus on to add more value as a running back."
Insights:
Additional Discussion Points:
Comparison to NFL Players: Omarion draws inspiration from NFL running backs like Joe Mixon and Derrick Henry, aiming to emulate their success through versatility and continuous improvement.
Off-Field Aspirations: Beyond football, Omarion expresses a passion for personal training and community engagement, indicating plans to give back and mentor young athletes.
Conclusion with Omarion Hampton: The hosts commend Omarion for his dedication and versatility, wishing him success in the draft and his future NFL career. They also discuss the evolving value of running backs in the NFL, suggesting a resurgence similar to that seen with Derrick Henry and others.
Notable Quotes:
Throughout the episode, Chad Ochocinco Johnson and Friend 1 provide dynamic and passionate commentary on current sports topics, blending historical perspectives with contemporary analysis. The inclusion of Omarion Hampton adds depth to the discussion, bridging collegiate sports with professional aspirations.
Conclusion: Club Shay Shay’s Nightcap episode offers a comprehensive look into significant sports trades, analyzes the Phoenix Suns' season through Devin Booker's lens, and introduces a promising NFL draft prospect in Omarion Hampton. The hosts' insightful dialogue, combined with notable quotes and personal anecdotes, delivers a rich and engaging listening experience for both dedicated fans and casual observers.
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