Nightcap Hour 1: Micah Parsons RETURNS to DALLAS + Ravens on the STRUGGLE BUS + Jaxson Dart the NY SAVIOR?

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Nightcap Hour 1

Episode Date: September 29, 2025
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe & Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson
Episode Theme: NFL Week 4 Recap—Cowboys/Packers Historic Tie, Ravens Concerns, Chiefs Offense Surges, and Rookie QB Jaxson Dart’s Debut

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Episode Overview

Shannon Sharpe and Chad Johnson break down a wild NFL Sunday, highlighted by the historic 40-40 tie between the Cowboys and Packers, Baltimore’s rough loss and mounting troubles, the Kansas City Chiefs’ explosive offensive revival, and rookie Jaxson Dart’s winning debut for the Giants. The hosts mix insightful football analysis with their signature humor and trash talk, offering fans a fast-paced, opinionated look at the biggest stories from week four.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Cowboys vs. Packers: Historic 40-40 Tie

[04:10–29:15]

Game Breakdown

• Shannon opens by calling the game the “largest tie in NFL history…a 40-40 tie between the Packers and the Cowboys.”
• Both QBs shined:
  • Jordan Love: 31/43, 337 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INTs
  • Dak Prescott: 31/43, 319 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INTs
  • Rushing stats for both teams were strong, emphasizing offensive balance.
• Lack of defense: “If you wanted to see some defense, I’m sorry, you’ll have to wait until next week.” — Shannon [06:52]
• Chad was wary of a blowout after the first quarter but admitted, “it turned out to be a very good game, very entertaining from the end of the second quarter on.” [07:45]

Standout Performers

• Romeo Doubs (Packers): “He had his coming out party tonight...Romeo Doubs showed out tonight.” — Chad [08:13]
• George Pickens (Cowboys): “You need...show us why you want $30M a year...he showed you: 8 for 134 and two touchdowns.” — Shannon [16:22]
• Key role players: Jalen Tolbert, KaVontae Turpin, and Ferguson.

Strategic Debates

• Shannon questioned Packers’ coach Matt LaFleur for aggressive calls before halftime: “If you struggle your first two drives...don’t do that.” [07:23]
• Discussion on defensive woes: “What am I going to show my team on tape? Both quarterbacks just carved us up!” — Shannon [10:36]
• Critique of the Cowboys’ zone-heavy, low-pressure defense: “You’re not getting enough pressure to get Jordan Love off his spot…he was surgical.” — Chad [14:13]
• On the significance of the tie: “Ties are like kissing a beautiful woman through a screen—there ain't really nothing going on.” — Shannon [14:54]

Notable Quotes

• “If you like offense, this was the game for you.” — Shannon [06:52]
• “Offensively, you’re playing extremely well, and the defense just has to find a way to catch up.” — Chad [24:56]
• “Defense, we’ll see y’all here in the film room Monday. Matter of fact, even on your off day Tuesday, bring your ass in here again!” — Chad [28:46]

2. Baltimore Ravens Collapse & AFC North Talk

[29:15–49:56]

Ravens’ Issues

• Lamar Jackson left with a hamstring injury in a 37-20 loss to the Chiefs; Baltimore falls to 1-3 for the first time since 2015.
• Defence can’t stop the run or pass: “They can’t stop Nathaniel nothing.” — Chad [31:28]
• Chiefs’ DC Spagnuolo’s aggressive blitzing and spy neutralized Lamar: “We’re not gonna allow Lamar to sit back there and have his way.” — Chad [32:04]
• Chiefs offense finally explodes: Patrick Mahomes 25/37, 274 yards, 4 TDs, 0 INTs.
• Ravens turnover woes: “The same reason the Bengals lose is the same reason the Ravens lose—because Lamar turned the ball over.” — Shannon [41:00]

AFC North Banter

• Chad needles Shannon for past Ravens hype: “Keep that same energy you had for Joe Burrow, for eight, for that Pompano legend. With today’s performance.” [30:02]
• Chad calls the Ravens in “hella trouble.”
• Shannon doubles down on Baltimore’s worries: “Baltimore’s defense isn’t very good.” [41:05]
• Turnovers and injuries highlight deeper issues: “You’re one in three. The Baltimore Ravens could dig themselves out...but as long as Lamar Jackson is playing, you’re going to be okay.” — Chad [49:56]

Notable Quotes

• “The Chiefs hadn’t scored 35 in almost two years. That’s what the Ravens’ defense allowed Kansas City to do—made it look easy.” — Shannon [43:16]
• “When your defense is as inept as it is, the last thing you want to do is put them back on the field.” — Shannon [45:10]
• “The product we’re putting on the field is not up to par with what the Ravens have been in the past. We’re trying our best to correct it, but obviously something’s wrong.” — Shannon, reading Kyle Hamilton’s quote [53:35]

3. Kansas City Chiefs: Are They Back?

[54:16–58:51]

• Chiefs post their highest score in two years after Xavier Worthy’s return and Tyquan Thornton’s emergence: “This is the best the Chiefs’ offense has looked in an extremely long time.” — Shannon [57:02]
• The speed at wide receiver is highlighted as a potential return to the “Tyreek Hill era” style.
• Look ahead: Chiefs face the Jaguars next week on Monday Night Football.

4. Jaxson Dart Leads Giants to First Win, Turf Injuries Debate

[59:26–73:24]

Rookie QB Debut and Giants' Victory

• Jaxson Dart’s first start: 13/20, 111 yds, 1 TD, 0 INT — Giants beat the Chargers 21-18.
• Lost star WR Malik Nabers to a suspected ACL, sparking league-wide turf injury concerns.
• Shannon applauds Dart’s poise: “The moment didn’t look too big for him…he looked good.” [68:19]
• Chad highlights Dart’s mobility and off-schedule play-making.

The Great Turf Debate

• Odell Beckham’s tweet after Nabers’ injury reignites criticism of synthetic turf.
• Chad (contrarian): “Ain’t got nothing to do with no goddamn turf…If something’s going to pop, it’s going to pop regardless.” [60:40]
• Shannon: “If you know more, you should do more.” [63:24]
• Chad doubts science and nutritionists, leading to a funny philosophical exchange.

Notable Exchange (Science & Health Tangent)

• “I don’t listen to nobody that tells me what to put in my body that never played any sport at the highest level.” — Chad [65:38]
• Shannon: “Why you even have medical [insurance] if you’re not going to listen to the doctor?” [67:14]
• Chad: “Just to make sure I’m healthy!” [67:16]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Defensive Struggles:
  • “If you let tight ends beat you on slant routes at the goal line, you won’t be in the league long.” — Shannon [12:01]
• On Ties in Football:
  • “It’s like playing cards and getting a push. I didn’t sit down at the blackjack table to push. I sat down to win.” — Shannon [27:44]
• On Raven’s Defensive Coordinator:
  • “We will not blame the defensive coordinator for the woes and struggles. Them boys, they got to get it done!” — Chad [46:17]
• On Kansas City's Speed:
  • “Hollywood ran 4.2, Thorntons 4.2, Xavier 4.21. Ain’t any team trotting out three receivers that can outrun those guys!” — Shannon [58:14]

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Cowboys/Packers Offensive Showcase: [06:51–16:05]
• Coaching/Cowboys and Packers Defense Explored: [10:36–15:45]
• George Pickens and Cowboys WRs Stepping Up: [16:21–17:13]
• Ravens Injuries, Chiefs Outburst, AFC North Talk: [29:15–44:37]
• Kansas City’s Offensive Revival: [54:16–58:51]
• Jaxson Dart’s Debut, Turf Injury Debate: [59:26–67:14]
• Checkup and Science Banter (comic relief): [65:20–68:19]
• Final Giants/Chargers Analysis: [68:19–73:24]

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Episode Takeaways

• NFL offenses are off to a red-hot start; defenses lagging.
• Historic 40-40 tie spotlights both promise and concern for Cowboys and Packers.
• Ravens teeter at 1-3; Lamar’s turnovers and injuries are central issues—defense no longer an organizational strength.
• Chiefs offense regains its firepower, making them a dangerous playoff threat.
• Jaxson Dart’s debut excites Giants fans, but the turf controversy is reignited by another serious injury.
• Signature Club Shay Shay banter and humor keeps even hardcore analysis fun and relatable.

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Transcript

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[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

One sack. Dak Prescott 30 or 43 19, three touchdowns, no interceptions, one sack. Clean game. Green Bay rushed the ball 35 times for a buck 64. The Cowboys rushed the ball 26 times for a buck 17. If you like, if you like offense. Yeah, this was the game for you. If you wanted to see some defense, I'm sorry, you'll have to wait the next week. Very interesting ball game. I don't really have a lot to complain about. Yeah. Only thing I will question Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharp]

Matt Leflore right before the half. Oh, the last two possessions before the, before the half, Ocho, you struggled offensively. Now if you reverse it, you struggle your first two drives. Now the last three drives, you do what you did. I agree with him going for it. But after you struggle, you don't do that. Yeah, but other than that, I got no qualms of what happened tonight. What'd you like about what you saw and what you didn't like?

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, honestly, when the game started, it was a doozy. I thought it was going to be boring. I thought it was going to be a blowout. Uncle was 12 2, I think. Yeah, I mean, something like that. I'm like, well, listen, when the packers got the ball again on their third offensive series, I said if they go up again and get the, get the 20, I'm going to bed and take me a nap. Because there's no way. No, I'm being honest, there's no way the Cowboys are going to be able to come back, especially, I think it was the first quarter, they had what, 60 yards of offense, something like that. But obviously it turned out to be a very good game, a very entertaining game from the end of the second quarter on into the third and fourth. And listen, Romeo Dobbs, he had his coming out party tonight. He had. If we didn't know who was receiver number one was for the. The packers, we know now. Romeo Dubs showed out the night and played one hell of a game. Deck Dick Press. God damn, why am I talking so fast? Dak Prescott played a phenomenal game. George Pickens, George Pickens looked very good tonight. Made some really clutch plays.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yep.

[Chad Johnson]

Some dope stuff. Showing what he can do with the ball if you put it in his hands. He doesn't always have to be a deep ball. He has that ability to have that, that yak as well. Outside of that, man, they ran the. Both teams ran the ball well. They were, they were well balanced with the run and the pass and I enjoyed it. I hope Josh Jacobs was okay, though. I hope he's okay.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah, I hope you guys took my little, My little thing I did today. You see what I did? You know, I told Michael gonna get a sack. I said Indiana Jones wasn't gonna throw for two touchdowns. What?

[Chad Johnson]

What?

[Shannon Sharp]

Mother pick. Yeah. Jayla Hurst gonna have more than a yard. I knew that. You know. Yeah, easy. That was the only thing. Oh, I agree with you. I mean, look, Cowboys. I mean both teams. You laughed at me when I said oo. I'm not so sure. I mean, I, I like the addition for the. Michael going to the Packers.

[Chad Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharp]

But I, I asked, I said oo. Are you sure they're better than the Rams? Yeah, they better than the Rams. They are you. I'm g. Ask you again. Oo. Are you sure?

[Chad Johnson]

Whoa, whoa, whoa. You. I don't remember you asking me about them being better than Rams.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yes. Because I say, I would say the Eagles and I say I will put the Rams in front of the packers. And you said no, no, no. And so I asked again. I'm going to ask you one more time, right?

[Chad Johnson]

I'm gonna give you this now, if we doing a comparison now, offensively, it's a toss up. You can go either way. Now if we're gonna, if we're gonna go from a defensive standpoint, you gotta.

[Shannon Sharp]

Go from a team standpoint.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, then I would go with the Rams because defensively they're a little better.

[Shannon Sharp]

Okay, that was a little better. They've been together. It's going to Take Micah some time to get worked in. Yeah, Yeah. I mean, I'm looking at both defenses.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

If I'm defensive coordinators, I will watch the tape, but I'm not going to show it to the team because what am I going to show Ocho? I mean, really, what am I going to show? I let the guy go 31, 43, 337, three touchdowns, zero interceptions. I let the other guy go 31, 43, 19, three touchdowns, zero interceptions.

[Chad Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharp]

What am I showing?

[Chad Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharp]

I'm trying. I'm looking at. I'm looking at Hobbs. I think he's number 21 for the Packers. Ocho, he damn near backpedal at the end zone. You do realize if you allow the guy to catch the ball in the end zone and you tackle him, it's still a touchdown. Yeah, bro. How far are you going to back up? Yeah, you can't. You can't keep backing up. You're in the. Ocho, you got. He has to understand where he is on the field, right? You take two steps, that's it. I'm not backing up anymore. Now you got to come through me.

[Chad Johnson]

If anything, you shouldn't move at all.

[Shannon Sharp]

If I'm putting heels on the go. No, I'm not giving that up. Because he had just got out flanked because they ran a switch and he had outside leverage, and they got him on the outside. So I said, okay, fine, you had outside leverage. I give him that. But you can't let a tight end run no bull that bull job slant route, and you keep backing up and you a corner. Corners that let tight. If that's. If that's kiddo. If that's one of these upper echelons. And I'm not saying I like Ferguson. I've liked him since he's gotten there. But corners you let tight ends beat you on. Slant rise at the goal line.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

You ain't gonna be in the league long, bro. You'll be bouncing around. That can't happen. That can't happen. But other than that, like I said, I don't know where we go. I mean, I love Jordan. Boy, he cut that thing. Raise the ultra. What the hell was he thinking? You just. You just.

[Chad Johnson]

That last play at the end of the game. Yes. That clock management almost hurt him now. They almost lost that game based on the clock management. He was trying to get everybody to the line. Obviously, it worked out.

[Shannon Sharp]

All you do. Why would you attempt to pass in that situation?

[Chad Johnson]

And what happened if they scored that touchdown, huh? Then what.

[Shannon Sharp]

What happened if they Got that pick. Then what?

[Chad Johnson]

Okay, listen, that's a chance.

[Shannon Sharp]

They was already playing for the field goal.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

I mean, listen, look, I'm taking as much time off the clock as I possibly can. Cowboys had their possession. We've got our possession.

[Chad Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharp]

We don't want to give them the ball back with any time on the clock. Okay, I get all of that.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

But he has to be smarter. You see the coach late, like, bro, what, what you doing?

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, I mean, I, I, I think he was trying to, trying to plan. I'm trying to play hero ball. We know if we get a field goal, the game ends in the tie. I'm going to take one more shot and try to leave a second, maybe two on the clock and see if we can kick a field goal to win it.

[Shannon Sharp]

If I didn't know better, I swear that guy had some ties to Green Bay. That clock guy, that boy, that was the longest. Like.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey.

[Shannon Sharp]

I mean, you know, let's see. Jordan Love lost the fumble. So 11 tackles. Quay walker. I just, Ocho, honestly, I just don't know.

[Chad Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharp]

Cause Eber Flutes, the defensive coordinator for the Cowboys, he doesn't like to bring pressure. And I just don't know if, how, I don't know how you survive in today's game if you let the guy just sit back there and pat the ball.

[Chad Johnson]

And this, this is the funny thing. They playing. They, they, they, they got four. They only bring in four. They're not blitzing nobody. They playing zone. And when you play a team like the packers and you run that zone and not get no pressure, it just stretches everything out. Defensively, it stretches everything out. And the holes is big as hell.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yep.

[Chad Johnson]

And all the players got to do, you can go right down the field and just pick them apart. Jordan Love can be surgical, which he was tonight. He was surgical because you're not getting enough pressure to get goddamn Jordan Love off his spot. Rushing, throws, or whatever you need to do to throw the time and offense off. And that's what happened. Somebody got to add some pressure. I was hoping Jadevion Clowney made some type of impact tonight. He really wasn't as effective as you like him to be. But listen, it was a great game. If you like offense, if you like points, as far as defenses go, as far as defense goes, it was a no show tonight. Both sides of the ball.

[Shannon Sharp]

This is the best. I mean, look, the Cowboys could ill afford to lose this game. I mean, ties and look, ties like kissing a beautiful woman through a screen. Right there ain't really nothing going on? No, Joe, you can just say that was a beautiful woman on the other side, but did you really touch it? If that. Is he real or was that AI?

[Chad Johnson]

No. Moral victories, no more.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah. So in a situation, it's not a loss. So all things being equal.

[Chad Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharp]

I'd rather be one, two and one.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

As opposed to one in three.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

Let's be. Let's be real and we'll see where it comes down. Hey. That time might come in and it might help you down the road, but you couldn't. You couldn't. You couldn't go down. You couldn't be one and three and the Eagles are four and oh. The Eagles are four and oh, hey.

[Chad Johnson]

I can't wait till we get to that game, but go ahead. God damn.

[Shannon Sharp]

But you know, look. The cowboy George Pickens showed why Tobert made a heck of a play. I thought that he was trying to throw the ball out.

[Chad Johnson]

I thought he was trying to throw the ball away, too.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yep. Yep. And somehow Tolbert came down with it. Turpin made a couple of plays.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

I mean, look, they got guys. Lano, he stepped up and made some plays. I mean, the guys stepped up and made plays for the Cowboys tonight. And that's what they needed offensively. They needed guys to step up with being out. They needed everybody to step up. George Pickens, you're. You need you.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

Show us why you want 30 plus million dollars a year to be for a receiver. Show us why he showed you. 8, 4 buck 34, 2 touchdowns on 11 targets. Jalen Tobert was a high draft pick. He got some opportunities in a situation like this. Oh, this is when you get opportunities. Right in this moment. This is where you show coke man. They. We can count on him. Yeah, they. I believe they always thought they knew they could count on George Pickens because of what he's did in Pittsburgh. He just needed a change of scenery. He needed to clear the deck, go someplace, get a fresh start, start all over again. But these other guys, you see Tobert, you see Turpin, you see Floy go. Those guys stepping up and making plays. Yeah, me. The only thing I say with Green Bay, get golden. More involved. He got too much speed not to be involved, Ocho. He got too much. He got too much speed, Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, uncle, you got to understand, right? If as fast as he is, as dynamic as he is with speed like that, if they felt comfortable putting them in more in positions to make more plays, he would. They would have him doing them there. There There is something when you have a player like that with that kind of speed.

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[Shannon Sharp]

Right.

[Chad Johnson]

Because I just think Romeo Dubs looks like the guy I thought. Golden. Golden came in to be the number one guy, but. Yeah, well, 87 ain't giving up that spot.

[Shannon Sharp]

But if you look at Ocho, they really only threw the ball to go. Only threw the ball to Dobbs up around the goal line. He had three touchdowns and then he caught that one with Bland. Kind of like he reached with the wrong hand.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

But other than that, they really didn't give him a whole lot of balls in the field of play. Most of it. Like he had what, three or four catches right there around. Right around the goal line. He made the most of those. And that's what you want. Like, hey, all things being equal, hey, give me the tubs. But I think if they can get golden involved, I think he's going to make this offense even more dynamic. Ocho, because he got speed to burn. I was surprised they didn't call that PI, because 9 times out of 10, ocho on bland, on that. On that rail, that shot, on the rail.

[Chad Johnson]

They call that on the left side towards the end of the game.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yes, they call that.

[Chad Johnson]

I would hate for the refs to be the reason. On changing the outcome of the game, let the players play. That was like a. Eh, eh, eh. It was.

[Shannon Sharp]

You know, I get to watch. They gonna come out and say, that should have been a flag. They gonna come.

[Chad Johnson]

You think so?

[Shannon Sharp]

But that don't do me no good.

[Chad Johnson]

Right, right, right.

[Shannon Sharp]

And especially I would prefer you not even tell me, cuz now I'm gonna be mad if.

[Chad Johnson]

If. If you. If you lost the game. If you lost the game, then it's okay. But the fact that the game ended in the tie. Yes, I'm glad they did. They didn't call it because I hate when the refs get in the way of changing the outcome of game instead of just letting the players play.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah, but I thought Jordan Love, I mean, he made a couple of plays like, okay, but other than that, I can't be mad at him. I really can't. Because I mean, he's only in his fifth year and he's still. There's some things that he can clean up. But on that fourth down when he threw that ball to Golden. Yeah, he had some mustard on that.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh yeah, he did.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah, he had some steam on it.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, he did.

[Shannon Sharp]

But I thought he played really, really well. I thought Jacobs ran the ball hard. He started making people miss on a couple of those runs. I was like, damn, somebody gonna need some ankle, some ankle transplants. Cuz he tearing people's ankles up left and right. Yeah, he was Javante Williams. Now you see him another year removed from that ACL surgery. He's starting to look like that Carolina Javante Williams dragging people, making people miss.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, he was toting that rock, boy. I mean, I don't, I don't see any signs of him having an ACL injury based on his performance and the way he ran the ball tonight.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson]

Being able to, being able to cut and jump, stop and all that and coming to balance and exploding. I'm like, well, God damn. What?

[Shannon Sharp]

I think Ocho had the game not gotten so, you know, they could have ran him more. Right. But they fell behind and so, you know, we want to get catch up. Yeah. But I think, you know what, I think blocking that pat Ocho gave them a life because they were a different team after they blocked that pat than before because Green Bay was kind of having their way with them.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

And then they blocked that pat and got a jolt of life. And the next thing you know, they're right back in the ball game. Give the Cowboys a lot of credit. Like I said, I don't think they, I don't think, you know, look, this only four games into the season, but the likelihood of you getting to the destination that you want to end up at and you start one and three isn't very good. It's not likely. One, two and one. It still gives you a chance because you still get the Eagles. You still, you still got two games against the Giants, you got two games against the Commanders and you have another game against the Eagles and you have your out of conference, your out of conference, your out of division games. So we'll see how that shapes out. Offensively, I think they're good. My concerns is defense, Ojo. I just don't know if giving up 40 points, Ojo, at home. You giving up 40 points at home?

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah. Hey, they gave, they gave up 40 also. God boy. Gave up 40 that first round of playoffs. Remember a few years ago now.

[Shannon Sharp]

Oh yeah, when they gave up 40fa, they gave up 48 then.

[Chad Johnson]

But. But this is the thing. This is the good side of things. Not only are you missing CD Lamb and everyone else stepping up and trying to make up for the production that CD Lamb would have had, but they also scored. Okay, you gave a 40, but you're scoring 40. So offensively, you're playing extremely well, and the defensive side of the ball just has to find a way to catch up, find a way to catch up, find a way to get one or two stops in quarters that would have made a difference in the game.

[Shannon Sharp]

Oh, but can't.

[Chad Johnson]

Can't.

[Shannon Sharp]

I mean, there. There haven't been very many defenses that you can just say, hey, go hunt with four, and they go attack the quarterback.

[Chad Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharp]

It's been very few. Now. It's been done. Yeah, but it's been very few times. The Eagles last year could get home with four, and they would play coverage. Fangio does not like to sacrifice that back end, and he had those big hogs, and they could. They could collapse the pocket inside with Davis and Carter, and then those edge guys were screaming off the edge, and they would rotate them, and they had eight. They could go eight deep and they just go. Just go, go, go, go. But the. I don't see that with the Cowboys. I'm not seeing that. Sam Williams came back. He looked good. They had a few guys that. That. That. That flashed.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

But I think in order to. For the Cowboys to play this style of defense.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

Boy, you asking awful lot. You, man. You asking an awful lot for your secondary, man, because like you said, they're expanding to a. An area. Well, I'm just gonna go. Go sit down in there where you vacated every.

[Chad Johnson]

Every time. And that. That folk got to get it. But this is. This is the thing you got to understand. You have to have the personnel to be able to do it. He's not blissing for a reason. Yeah, because he doesn't want. He doesn't want to expose the back end. Hell, you only blissing four in the back end. Still exposed.

[Shannon Sharp]

Thank you.

[Chad Johnson]

You only bringing four. I mean, excuse me.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah, it's. But that's his style of play. If you look at him when he was a. He was the head coach of. When he was at Indy.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

What did he do? That's the style of play. Yeah, you go watch him when he was in Chicago. He's the head coach. Look at his style of play. Now you look at him. This is who he is.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, same way.

[Shannon Sharp]

Now, on the flip side, you go look at Kansas City anytime Kansas City. When he gets threatened, what are you going to do? He'll hit you. He'll heat you up.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm coming to get you.

[Shannon Sharp]

You come. You get down to his area.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm coming to get you.

[Shannon Sharp]

Come get you. Yeah, that's not.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, but. But. And honest and honestly, this is what makes Spags defense so good.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson]

He has the personnel to be able to do and execute exactly what he needs you to do. The game they had. We'll get to that. I don't want to go too much.

[Shannon Sharp]

Into it, but a 40 point tie, I mean. I mean, I'm trying to think, have.

[Chad Johnson]

I ever tied this?

[Shannon Sharp]

No, I never. I've never tied a game, so I don't know how I would feel. I. I just know. I. Look, it's kind of like playing cards, you know what I'm saying, Ocho? It's like. And you get a push. I didn't sit down at the blackjack table to push. I sat down to win.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

So I guess. I guess it's like pushing. You know what I'm saying? Hey, I didn't lose no money, but I didn't win money. I didn't sit down there to say, okay, yeah, push, push. No, bro, I'm trying to win something. But I guess in this situation, I don't know how to feel. I've never been in this situation before. Had you. Have you ever had a tie game in your career?

[Chad Johnson]

Absolutely not. Absolutely not. But listen, if I played for the Cowboys, if I played for the Packers, I would feel good.

[Shannon Sharp]

I.

[Chad Johnson]

You didn't lose, huh? Yeah, I feel good. I didn't lose. I'd be upset we didn't win the game, but we have some great things we have to build off of. Defensively, we need to work offensively, they should. They could take the day off. Offense, y' all could take Monday and Tuesday off. Defense, we'll see y' all here in the film room. Monday, Monday night. Matter of fact, even on Tuesday on your off day. Tuesday, bring your ass in here again.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah, they.

[Chad Johnson]

Whoo.

[Shannon Sharp]

But that game did some numbers. Oh, yeah, I can imagine. This is probably gonna be the highest rated Sunday night game they've had in quite some time.

[Chad Johnson]

Maybe about 20, 28, 29 million.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cowboys. It's a close game.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

Was back and forth in the fourth quarter. It goes into overtime. So. Yeah, it peak. I. I'll agree with you, ocho. I'll say 28.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, probably. I like it.

[Shannon Sharp]

But the Green Bay packers and the Dallas Cowboys, they needed what 70 minutes and they still couldn't determine a winner. They have a tie. 40 40. Jordan Love was 31 of 43. 337 and three touchdowns, no interceptions. Dak Prep Scott, 31 of 43. 19, three touchdowns, no interceptions. I mean, you look at it, 500 yards for the. About almost 500 yards of offense for the Packers. Yeah, a little over 400 for the Cowboys, but they played to a 40, 40 tie. And onward and upward. Ocho. Yo, the game you just alluded to. Lamar Jackson leaves the Ravens.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Before you even start, before you even start, now, what I'm gonna need you to do, I don't want to hear you say foot or ball. You've been talking about the Ravens is your team, and I told you was only there for two weeks, but you eluded and wanted to be adamant about the Ravens being your team. I need you to keep that same energy that you have for Joe Burrow. When things aren't going well with Joe, especially last year, keep that same energy for eight for that Pompano legend. With today's performance. Now, I' ma let you go, and at any point, I feel you, you shucking and jiving. I'm gonna interrupt, but go ahead, go ahead.

[Shannon Sharp]

Keep that your day coming tomorrow around this time. I just want you to know your day coming.

[Chad Johnson]

Don't worry. Oh, hey, hey, listen, you're gonna be real sad if you go. If you go over two. You got one team lost today.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah. It won't be two. It won't be two.

[Chad Johnson]

All right.

[Shannon Sharp]

Lamar Jackson leaves the Ravens in a 37:20 loss to the Chiefs with hamstring issues. Baltimore is now one in three for the first time since 2015. Yeah, and two games behind the Steelers in the AFC North. Ocho, how much trouble are the Ravens and Lamar Jackson in as we currently speak?

[Chad Johnson]

Boy, them boys in hella trouble. You hear me? They in hella trouble. They in a lot of trouble. For one. I'm not even going to talk about the injuries first. I just want to talk about the defense. They can't stop nobody. They can't stop the run, they can't stop the pass. They can't stop Nathaniel nothing outside of that. The good thing for the Baltimore Ravens, you're not facing the Kansas City Chiefs every week. So offensively, you're probably going to be very good against everybody else. With spags dialed up today. Pressure, pressure, pressure. We're not gonna let him. We're not gonna allow Lamar to sit back there and have his Way. Not only that, when he does drop back, when he is in the shotgun, we gonna have a spy. Matter of fact, we gonna blitz and have a spine, because I trust my back end to be able to handle their business and doing what they need to do. And it worked. Numbers. It was phenomenal. The game plan that Spag came in with defensively worked phenomenal.

[Shannon Sharp]

I'm trying to figure out what Baltimore. Look, Spags has a history. If he feels threatened, he's going to blitz you.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

You get down to his territory, he's going to blitz you. You know this. It seemed like the Ravens. Everybody knows this except the Ravens. Now, they really.

[Chad Johnson]

They had no answer.

[Shannon Sharp]

Ocho, it's been a while. They did not. They did not. That offensive line, Ronnie Staley went out, and so now you got a backup in at the most important position at the left tackle. Your right guard isn't playing up to snuff. And so now you're weakened in two areas. Yeah, you really couldn't get into your run game. Look, they had 166 yards on 17 carries, but 71 of that came when the game was out of reach. Justice. Justice Hill.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

Cracked off one, but you're able to neutralize Derek Henry. He only had eight carries for 42 yards. Yeah, he's not that kind of back that can give you that kind of. Now he's more like. As he gets going now, he can pop up one. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But he can pop up.

[Chad Johnson]

But this is what you. This is what you see from the chief defense. God damn Super Bowl. We thinking Saquon gonna have a day. What's Bag said? Oh, no, no, no, no. If anybody gonna beat us, it ain't gonna be 26.

[Shannon Sharp]

You gotta beat him. Throw the ball.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, hell, if you're coming into a game like this, like, like. Like today, what's the first thing you say? Well, we taking two people out. We taking two. We not. We taking two. We knock two birds with one stone. We gonna spy Lamar Jackson on pass downs and blitz at the same time. And anything with Derrick Henry, we got to see you. We got to have that. You won't be breaking off nothing. Hey, man and boy were laying that wood out there today.

[Shannon Sharp]

What if you go back and look at how teams have beaten the Chiefs in the postseason? Throw the ball. First time they lost with Patrick Mahomes as the quarterback. What did Tom Brady do? Go back and look at Tom Brady numbers. Yeah, you go back and look at Joe Burrow. They threw the ball. Yeah, you Go back and look. You look at Tampa in the super bowl. They threw the ball. You've got to be able to throw the ball because Spags got. You got to take something away.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

What he wants to take away, he wants to make you one dimensional so that way he can just focus on stopping the pass.

[Chad Johnson]

Right.

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[Shannon Sharp]

You run it now. He can't focus on what he needs to focus on. Your quarterback has to be up to par and he has to beat you throwing the football, and you can't turn it over. Can't turn it over. You gotta. You gotta protect. You gotta protect the ball against Spags if you want to beat it.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

Lamar was 14 to 21, 47. One touchdown, one interceptions. He fumbled one. Got a little. Got a little. Got hit from the back. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Chad Johnson]

Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. I need the same energy you have for Joe Burrow.

[Shannon Sharp]

Joe Burrow ain't played. I'm not. No, no, no.

[Chad Johnson]

When Joe. When we lose, you have all this energy and Joe should have did this, and Joe can't turn the ball over and Joe can't do that. I need you to have the same energy you have for Joe, for Lamar.

[Shannon Sharp]

Okay.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharp]

Lamar.

[Chad Johnson]

That's my dog, right? Did he take himself out the game today or was he hurt?

[Shannon Sharp]

He was hamstring. It was reported that he has a hamstring injury.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Well, I need you to be very critical of your team. That's your team, right?

[Shannon Sharp]

That's one of my teams, yes.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm trying to make sure I'm. I'm. The energy. The energy is not adding up based on the way you were talking yesterday.

[Shannon Sharp]

Okay, hold on. Did you ex. Hold on. Did you expect the Ravens to beat Kansas City? And. Kansas City. Oh, so.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, is that what we doing? Is that what we do?

[Shannon Sharp]

I'm just asking.

[Chad Johnson]

So. So we saying that the Ravens can't. They can't win on the road? Is that what you're telling me?

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah, they can.

[Chad Johnson]

Are you making excuses?

[Shannon Sharp]

No, hold on.

[Chad Johnson]

The Chiefs are 1 and 3.

[Shannon Sharp]

Huh?

[Chad Johnson]

The Chiefs are 1 and 3.

[Shannon Sharp]

And. And the Ravens. And the Ravens are 1 and 6 now against the Chiefs. Hold on, hold on.

[Chad Johnson]

Let me finish. Line. Let me finish. Let me cook. Lamar Jackson.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson]

Is one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time. And he's still.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yes, yes.

[Chad Johnson]

I expect Lamar Jackson and that defense that once was feared at one point to go in there and be able to beat the goddamn Chiefs. Yes, I do. They got Lamar Jackson and they got Derrick Henry. I expected.

[Shannon Sharp]

Think about it. So last year, they had Lamar. They had Lamar Jackson and when he was an mvp. And the defense was better than that.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

And Baltimore and Kansas City came into their building.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

In the AFC Championship game. What happened? Because what we have seen is that what happened today. Ocho. Ocho. Lamar turned the ball over twice.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Okay.

[Shannon Sharp]

You're not. You're not gonna beat.

[Chad Johnson]

You see, you heard what you just. I need you. That's. I need you to say that. I need you to say. I need you to say it.

[Shannon Sharp]

We're both breaking out of games. You can say people want me to let you talk, so I was trying to let you talk.

[Chad Johnson]

Hold on. I need you to do eight like you do Joe. You. You be a. You be real hyped. You'd be real enthusiastic. He'd be real passionate about the reason we lost. And could Joe turn the ball over? He needs to do more.

[Shannon Sharp]

No. Well, you. You lost for two. The same reasons. The same reason the. The Bengals lose is. The same reason the Ravens lose is because Lamar turned the ball over. Okay. The defense up.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay. Okay. I just. Okay. I just wanted to hear it out your mouth, but you.

[Shannon Sharp]

But you know, I'm not. Breaking news. Excuse me. Let me interrupt your normally scheduled programming to break this news. Hey, you want me to give you an Amber Alert? The Baltimore Ravens defense isn't very good.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

We haven't seen Patrick Mahomes look like this in a very long time.

[Chad Johnson]

All season. All season.

[Shannon Sharp]

I don't know if we've seen him look like. Like 25 or 37, 274 touchdowns or clean. When was the last time we saw him throw for four touchdowns? We haven't seen this. This Patrick Mahomes in an extremely long time. And he looked very, very comfortable. They ran the ball. They did. They did a worthy Pacheco. Ran hard. Kareem Hunt came in and got some big time. Hold on.

[Chad Johnson]

Talk about Tyquan now.

[Shannon Sharp]

Hey, let me tell y' all something. I don't know if y' all noticed this, but if you want to have a good game, y' all come on and talk to Uncut.

[Chad Johnson]

Everybody that comes on the show, for some reason, they go crazy.

[Shannon Sharp]

Melissa Jefferson, they go crazy. Tyquan Rashon Gary, going crazy. Henley. Hey, I'm just saying.

[Chad Johnson]

Tell you. Hey, hey. Matter of fact, all the Ravens fans out there, man. Hey, make sure y' all check on butter. Make sure butter straight. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

I mean, thank oo. I mean, the Chiefs hadn't scored 35. When was the last time Chiefs scored 35 points? You probably got to go back all the way back to 30. 23. I don't think they've scored 30.

[Chad Johnson]

Hold up. Speaking. Speaking of 30 and 35 points, unless last year when the Chiefs were playing games, the games they're losing this year, those are the games that they won. They lose in the close games. They losing all the close games. This is the first time the Chiefs have looked like the Chiefs of old in a very long time.

[Shannon Sharp]

Very long time. Yes, very long. They were all doing one score game. Remember Ocho? One score game, a field goal. Yeah. They win by one, they win by two, they win by three, they win by four. They were all these one score game. This is the first time that they. They've won by. I mean, a comfortable margin.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

So the last time they scored more than 30 was against the Raiders in November of 23. So almost two years.

[Chad Johnson]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharp]

That's what. That's what the Ravens defense have allowed Kansas City to do.

[Chad Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharp]

So in almost two years since they scored more than 30, they just go in there and made it look easy.

[Chad Johnson]

Mm. Yeah. Well, hey, this is the funny thing. I know, I know, I know. I'm being funny about the Ravens. You know, I love my bangles, but the Ravens are going to be okay. As bad as their defense is, their identity is not their defense. Their identity is their offense. As long as you have number eight, it's no different than when we talk about the Buffalo Bills. It's no different than we talk about the Bengals. Obviously, Joe Burrow is out, but as long as you have eight, you're going to always be in contention. I don't care if you want in three. I don't care if you want in four. That team is so good offensively and can score 30, can score 40, can put up 28 a game. It just. You're playing. You're not playing against the Kansas City Chiefs every day. You're not playing against Spags or a defense like that every single day. Other teams you're going to play aren't going to have the personnel to say, we going to blitz and have a goddamn spot. That's not that. That. That's not the makeup of other teams. So that's how I know the Ravens are going to be okay. But right now, they down in the dumps, as a matter of fact. Hey, they fans so fickle, huh? The fan throwing jerseys all in the trash. They making fun of Lamar Toba. You know, Lamar's like. I'm like, come on, man.

[Shannon Sharp]

This is what we do. The very thing that we criticize Josh Allen for.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

Playing great, but he had turnovers and. And he couldn't overcome him. His defense. And we blamed everybody. At what point in time did we say, lamar, you got to stop turning the ball over? We did this for Josh Allen for years because Josh Allen would play great. He would throw an interception in the end zone.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

He would fumble the ball trying to do too much. Go back and look at Lamar in the games that he's lost.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

Especially big, big games. Look at his turnovers.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

Look at Kansas City in the championship. Look at Buffalo today. One pick, one fumble. When your defense is as inept as it is, the last thing you want to do is put them back on the field. I want to. Oo. I want them to play as little as possible.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

That's the thing. What the Cowboys are up against, as good as the Cowboys offense is, unfortunately, you gotta play. You gotta put your defense back on the field. And I want them to play as little as possible. So guess what happens. I turn the ball over. I break. Joe Burrow knows about this. I turn the ball over. I gotta put the team, the unit that I least want to be on the field. Back on the field.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

Now, I don't know what's gonna happen. Look, I don't advocate anything, but I just think the thing is, is that I don't know what Zach Orr is calling. I don't know what's going on.

[Chad Johnson]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. This is what we will not do.

[Shannon Sharp]

What?

[Chad Johnson]

We will not blame that. The. The defensive coordinator for the woes and the struggles of the defense, because them boys, they got back there, Wiggins, Marlon Humphrey, Kyle Hamilton, who they just paid $237 trillion. No, y' all got to get it done. A wozy. Whatever the coach.

[Shannon Sharp]

A woozy.

[Chad Johnson]

A woozy. Whatever. Whatever the coach called.

[Shannon Sharp]

Woozy for the Cowboys. He played with Cincinnati. What is Cincinnati? That's automatic. They call it first down because you throw the ball on him. It's the first down. That what they call it. Hey, he's on the Ravens now, but he was with Cincinnati. Wasn't he with the Duck Cowboys also? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, first down. Yeah. You like? Yeah, I know. First down.

[Chad Johnson]

That's. That's his nickname.

[Shannon Sharp]

You call him first down, throw it on him. First down. Oo. The thing is, is that they can't. Their two best pass rushers are out. So with that being said, now, Wiggins and Humphrey and Hamilton, you need. I don't care how great your secondary is, without pressure, their secondary will become average.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[Shannon Sharp]

With great pressure, an average secondary can look great.

[Chad Johnson]

Great.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah, man.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

Ocho. The problem in that. We saw this with Joe Burke and we saw this with Josh Allen, and I was the main one. I'll be the first to say. I said, yeah, the defense isn't good, but what about those turnovers? So what role did throwing an interception in the end zone and you don't get a chance on first down, or you throw an interception on second down and you don't get a crack at third down or you don't get a crack to kick a field goal. What role did that play? Okay, you turned the ball over in negative territory. What role did that play? And you losing the game, it's easy to say, well, they gave up 40 points. Did any of those turnovers help them get to that 40 point total?

[Chad Johnson]

Absolutely. Absolutely. So you know what that tells you? Your Ravens is not as. Not as good as you thought they were because you was talking cash. You know what, before the season started about the AFC north come through the Ravens, I told you, it damn sure.

[Shannon Sharp]

Ain'T going through Cincinnati.

[Chad Johnson]

The AFC north is going through Cincinnati, as a matter of fact. And just. Just to put a stamp on it so we can. We can dot our I's and cross our T's. When we beat your team tomorrow night, I want you to come on here, I want you to apologize to me and I want you to apologize to everybody in the chat. And I want you to say Ocho was always right because I told. I told you what was going to happen. Don't get that Ravens helmet. Please don't do that. Oh, oh, oh, now.

[Shannon Sharp]

Oh.

[Chad Johnson]

Tonight is Denver.

[Shannon Sharp]

Huh?

[Chad Johnson]

Oh. Tonight is Denver.

[Shannon Sharp]

Bronco country. Stand up.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh. Last night it was Raven this, it was Raven that, it was Lamar Jackson. It was Derrick Henry. What happened? Huh? What happened?

[Shannon Sharp]

They lost Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay. Okay. Well, I. I need. I need.

[Shannon Sharp]

And you say they not in trouble. What is Cooper Rush going to do if Lamar Jackson missed any time? What is Cooper Rush going to do?

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, y' all might. Y' all might. The season probably over for y'. All, man.

[Shannon Sharp]

That ain't what you just said. You just said they gonna be okay.

[Chad Johnson]

I said as long as Lamar Jackson is playing, you're Going to be okay. There are a few, there are few teams in the NFL that can dig themselves out of a hole. A one and three hole, a one and four hole. No, one and three. Now, the Baltimore Ravens could do that.

[Shannon Sharp]

Offensively, but you do realize. So they're one and three.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

In order, in order to go to get the 500, you got to win two games in a row. So you win two games in a row, that's five. So what happens if you go one and one? What happens if you go 02? Cooper Rush, you're not winning. Your defense isn't playing up to great up the standards with Lamar at quarterback. What the hell you think they're gonna do? Lamar. Cooper Rush is not going to get you anything with those legs.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, I, I, I, A wise man once told me, he told me that Cooper Rush was a very good quarterback.

[Shannon Sharp]

I don't know who told you that.

[Chad Johnson]

His name? Jerry.

[Shannon Sharp]

Man, please.

[Chad Johnson]

I, listen, I'm not telling you what I, I'm not telling you what I know.

[Shannon Sharp]

I'm telling you what I also said that Mike. Michael. Michael ain't win no Super Bowl. We didn't win no super bowl with Michael, Jerry. Y' all ain't won a Super bowl in Michael's lifetime, so what the hell you talking about? You ain't win no super bowl with him. You haven't won a Super bowl in this man's lifetime.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, man.

[Shannon Sharp]

Nobody thought. The only person that thought Cooper Rush was good was Jerry. Nobody thought it was good because when he became a free agent, nobody put, put a bid out there for him.

[Chad Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharp]

Oh, I remember Troy, Troy said, oh, he's gonna be a hot commodity on the free agent market. No, he's not. Maybe, maybe that was, you know, because a lot of times they'll do that. Now these, these guys that call these games, they'll put that, put that bug out there and have. Yeah, well, you know, he did play the game and he studied the game and he knows. No, no. If you watch, watch the games closely.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Just pay attention. Watch.

[Shannon Sharp]

They're not, they're not. They. It was Zeke running. They had to play outstanding defense and Zeke had to run the ball and they gave him easy stuffs. But now if Lamar Jackson can't go, they're going to be dependent.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. On the defense or Kobe.

[Shannon Sharp]

I don't understand why you get a guy that's so vastly different than Lamar. I understand there is no Lamar Jackson, but OO gets something similar.

[Chad Johnson]

There, There is nothing similar. Boy, we talk about number eight. We Talk about Pompano's finest. There's nothing like that. So that offense has to change drastically. The offense has to change drastically because Cooper Rush. What Cooper Rush can do is nothing compared to Lamar Jackson. So the playbook is going to shrink like this.

[Shannon Sharp]

So you shrink. So let me ask you a question. So you shrink the playbook and then they look for the, the offense to be more explosive while trying to minimize your defense exposure. How does that work?

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, listen, I, I, I don't know. Harbor one had to figure that one out. But you better hope whatever's wrong with Lamar's hamstring is not significant. And it's day to day. You, you, you. Let, let's hope. I'm, I'm hoping because I want to see Lamar on the field. I'm a Ravens fan. I enjoy the game of football and I enjoy watching one of the more.

[Shannon Sharp]

You a Lamar fan? You ain't no Ravens fan.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, my bad. That's what I meant to say. But I, I love the Ravens fans, though. They've always been good to me and I've been good to them. So technically I'm a Ravens fan because I, I love their fans. They think. But I, I'm a Lamar fan and I, I really want him to play. I don't want him to miss no time. I don't want to miss no time at all because he's exciting to watch.

[Shannon Sharp]

The Ravens defense is allowing an NFL worst 33.3 points per game. Already entered Sunday's game without four starters. The Ravens are now 7 and 11, including the playoffs. When Lamar turns the ball over multiple times after no turnovers in his first three games. Lamar threw an interception and then fumbled when he ran into the back of Tyler Lindenbaum. Raven safety Kyle Hamilton on the one in three start. I just want to apologize to the fan. The product that we're putting on the field right now is not up to par to what the Ravens have been in the past and, and in the recent past. We're trying our best to correct it, but obviously something's wrong.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, man, T, man, listen. The, the Ravens defense, the Ravens offense, the coaching staff, they need to apologize to the fans and they apologize to the number one fan, Butter. But I know you probably watching, boy. I apologize. I'm, I'm sorry. Y' all just ain't it. This year the AFC north will be run through Cincinnati through the 5, 1, 3, and we ain't even got Joe Burrow. But we gonna whoop y' all and we go with the Broncos tomorrow. Night, I can tell you that.

[Shannon Sharp]

We gonna sack. We gonna sack him probably about five. About five times.

[Chad Johnson]

Sack who?

[Shannon Sharp]

Jake Browning.

[Chad Johnson]

Sack. Sack him with who? With what? No, not with our offensive line. You crazy? What? Man, please. Boy, It's Monday night. It's Monday night. Jake Browning ain't never lost a game on Monday night.

[Shannon Sharp]

Never played one either.

[Chad Johnson]

He did when Joe Burrow was out.

[Shannon Sharp]

That was Thursday.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, same thing. Monday, Thursday, it's all the same. Because we the only ones on tv.

[Shannon Sharp]

After getting Xavier Werther back on the field, Chiefs had their biggest scoring day in more than two years. Ocho, is the offense finally on track.

[Chad Johnson]

In just one game? It's just one game, but they look good. Worthy, juju Smith, Pacheco toting that thing today. They didn't have a running game the past four weeks. Three weeks. Excuse me. But today they had a running game. For some reason. That addition to Taekwond Thornton showing his value, just getting there, making plays. Every time he throw a ball, Touchdown. Every time he touched the ball, it's a touchdown. So they look good. Now the office is catching up to where the defense is now. The Chiefs are starting to look like the Chiefs of old. But can they string it together? Can they do it back to back weeks?

[Shannon Sharp]

Who they got next week?

[Chad Johnson]

Man, stop playing.

[Shannon Sharp]

He look good. I mean, they got speed galore. Xavier Worthy can run. Taquan Thornton can fly.

[Chad Johnson]

Hollywood Brown can fly.

[Shannon Sharp]

The Ravens play the Texans. Who did the Chiefs play? And they still the Jags in Jacksonville or in Kansas City. Okay, that'll be a very good game.

[Chad Johnson]

Where they playing that in Jacksonville Sunday, right?

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay. Okay.

[Shannon Sharp]

They get. They get Rashid Rice back after what, six games? Or seven games?

[Chad Johnson]

Six. Hey, once. Hey, once they get him back. Especially if they. If they start hitting a stride after this game and continue that same momentum and then Rasheed Rice come back. Man. Listen, man.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah, boy, but they look good. This is the first. This is the best the Chiefs offensive look in a very, very long time. Yeah, long time. Patrick Mahomes look comfortable. He still. I mean, he hit one deep ball to Worthy. Yeah, but that deep ball ain't what it like when. When he was. When he was hitting that deep ball when he had Tyreek. He get back on that level with these guys. Yeah, because he got speed. Hey, pick a side. Yeah, pick one.

[Chad Johnson]

Let it real.

[Shannon Sharp]

Because Worthy can fly. Thornton can fly. Rashid Rice go. He and Trav gonna be working the middle.

[Chad Johnson]

Hollywood, that's gonna be crazy. Shoot.

[Shannon Sharp]

Oh, Jack. The Canceedo Monday night. Wow. Next week Next week they play Monday night.

[Chad Johnson]

Ocho in Jacksonville.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yep.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm gonna go. I'm go to that game. I'm gonna do the show from Jacksonville. I'm gonna go to that game. Damn, man. Hey, hey, listen. The Chiefs. Hey, quiet quietly. They got a little four by one team. I don't know who. I don't know who gonna run that. That fourth leg, but the first. Them first three legs, fast as hell.

[Shannon Sharp]

Rasheed Rice. I'm looking at Rasheed Rice. One, you got Thornton, you got. You got three guys that run for Hollywood ran four, two.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, yeah, absolutely. That boy, the boys fan.

[Shannon Sharp]

Thornton ran four, two.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

Xavier ran four, two, one. Pick anybody. Hell, put Mahomes up. Put. Let Mahomes run. Second league they got. They got. They got speed to burn, don't you?

[Chad Johnson]

They do.

[Shannon Sharp]

I think Rashid Rice ran four, four, so he good. Ain't no all I know ain't any team trotting out three. Three receivers. Three players that can outrun those guys. Nah, I don't give a damn. I don't give a damn what you got on your team. No, you ain't shot. Not three guys that can outrun Thornton Hollywood and Xavier Worthy. That ain't happening.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, and as fast as they are, they. They just. They just have to make sure it shows up not only on film but in the games.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

When they play, they have to. Everything should be. It should look explosive, like when. When Tyree catches the ball, he just looked so much faster than everybody else. It's just different. I don't know how to.

[Shannon Sharp]

I don't know how to explain it, but. See, he compact. See, he's short, man. Thornton's tall. Thorn's like six two.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

The Giants earned their first win of the season, beating the charges 21 18. Rookie quarterback Jackson Dart, in his first career start, completed 13 of 20 passes, 111 yards, the touchdowns, no interception. But the Giants lost Malik Neighbors in the second quarter to what is believed to be an ACL injury. Excuse me. Odell Beckham tweeted after the neighbor's injury. Dear NFL, I mean this with the utmost love and respect. We the NFL, take all precautions in the world with everything else when it comes to players health and safety. Please, please, please get rid of this turf. Thank you in advance. Love, respect, and you know I love the Giants, but death, life has taken too many talented players away from the game. I know it's not all turf's fault, but maybe it's where we've got to go. We've gotten all research Done. Because turf state is the highest quality as possible. At least we can start that discussion. Oh, Joe, we Looking at from 20 to 20, 25, there have been at least 16 documented ACL and Achilles injuries at MetLife Stadium. Aaron Rodgers, Achilles, Jalen Phillips, Achilles, Nick Bosa, ACL, Malik, neighbors, suspected ACL. What you thinking, Ocho?

[Chad Johnson]

Nothing. Nothing at all. I played on that same turf. I played in that same turf out there in goddamn Cincinnati. I played in the same turf for 11 goddamn years. Ain't got nothing to do with no goddamn turf if it was grass. If something's going to pull, if something's going to pop, it's going to pop regardless of what the surface is that's below you. It doesn't matter. It has nothing to do. I mean, we got to get that out of our mind. We got to get that out of our mind. Oh, we're suffering these injuries because of the surface we're playing on. No, that's coming from within. That's within. That's the ground. The ground has nothing to do with that at all. I'm just being honest. It doesn't. It had no correlation at all. People may get. People get ACLs and Achilles on regular grass. It's the same thing.

[Shannon Sharp]

But are they happening with the same frequency?

[Chad Johnson]

Come on, man.

[Shannon Sharp]

So let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question.

[Chad Johnson]

Has no bearing.

[Shannon Sharp]

Well, so why have there been so many ACL and Achilles injuries in that stadium specifically?

[Chad Johnson]

I mean, let's say that stadium pacifically, right? Why have there been so many ACL and Achilles injuries in general? Why has it risen not just in MetLife, just in general?

[Shannon Sharp]

Maybe because there's a lot more of these stadiums that have this synthetic turf.

[Chad Johnson]

No, that has nothing to do with it because sometimes people aren't even being touched. Some of these are non contact injuries.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

No, it had nothing to do with it.

[Shannon Sharp]

Well, that's what the studies so. But see, you don't believe in studies and science anyway.

[Chad Johnson]

And that's the problem. We keep worrying about science. It's science. That's why everybody getting hurt. That's why. That's the problem. We listen to these people that never played the game. Oh, my bad, my bad, I'm sorry. We're listening to these people that are experts on what we're supposed to consume and put in our bodies that have never played any sport at the highest level and know what it takes to be able to play a four quarter game in a barbaric sport where we're running to each other 30 miles an hour. But yeah, eat this green stuff. It's healthy for you. It's going to help you. No, for some reason, everybody's continue to get hurt. Salt injury, this, Achilles, quads, hamstrings, everything, everything blowing out. Something has to give. And we blame it on injuries. I mean, we blame it on turf. No goddamn turf. When y' all played, y' all played on concrete.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Y' all played on concrete with carpet laid over top of it.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah. With no problems. That the, it ended Wendell Carter's career. He tore both Patel attendance.

[Chad Johnson]

Come on, man.

[Shannon Sharp]

I, I, Look, I, I just think the thing is, is that if you know, if you, if you know more, you should do more. And I think there's a reason why. So in other words. So let me ask you a question.

[Chad Johnson]

Talk to me.

[Shannon Sharp]

So why did they kick this kickoff out if it doesn't hurt, guys gonna get hurt anyway. So why, so why not continue to run down there and let guys run into each other?

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, the NFL covering their ass.

[Shannon Sharp]

Okay, well, cover, Wait, don't you want to cover your ass with these injuries?

[Chad Johnson]

Hold on, hold on, hold on. Listen to me real quick. We're trying to prevent the collisions from so far apart. So we're going to shrink it down. Right. Because we lost the lawsuit to what, what? Three generations ago.

[Shannon Sharp]

In 2000, in early 2000s.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Three. Yeah. Three generations or three eras? Three eras ago we lost a billion dollar lawsuit. Three. You know what I'm trying to say? We don't want to have to have that happen again. So what are we going to do? We're going to take precautions. Anyone that gets hurt, we're going to continue to throw a flag. We're going to continue to find you so you don't come back 10 years later from now trying to sue us saying, well, my head or this is messed up because of these circumstances that we had back then. That's what the NFL is doing.

[Shannon Sharp]

I think the thing is, is that the NFL, the product suffers when your best players aren't on the field. There's a reason why that you can't hit the quarterback below the knee.

[Chad Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharp]

Trent Green suffered the exact same injury on that very similar play. And they didn't change the rule. It wasn't until Tom Brady.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharp]

And they call it the Brady Rule. Yeah, there have been a lot of quarterbacks that got hit in the knee and got hurt. Yeah, but it was, I just think the fake. Look, I, I think if, if you know more, you should do more. You don't, you don't believe in science. You don't go to the doctor, so.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, yeah, I mean, I. I go to the doctor.

[Shannon Sharp]

Why?

[Chad Johnson]

Because I have.

[Shannon Sharp]

He ain't never played no sport. How do you know what? What. How he know how to treat your body?

[Chad Johnson]

Because I can't check myself.

[Shannon Sharp]

You know what I'm saying?

[Chad Johnson]

I got to make sure I'm healthy.

[Shannon Sharp]

But why you don't listen to no nutritionist.

[Chad Johnson]

Hold on, hold on, hold on. Listen, listen. Listen to me. Listen to me. I don't listen to nobody that does studies and tells me what I need to put in my body to play the game of football at the highest level.

[Shannon Sharp]

Why would you do that? They tell you what you should put in your body to heal your body. So why would you do that?

[Chad Johnson]

What? Hold on, hold on. You. I need better context. I need better context.

[Shannon Sharp]

Why would you listen to anybody to say you need to put this medicine in your body so you can feel better, so you won't be sick, so you won't have a sore throat? Why would you listen to him? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Chad Johnson]

My sore throat is because of the ac. And I don't. I don't.

[Shannon Sharp]

I don't ac. I'm just asking you a simple question.

[Chad Johnson]

Let me answer. Let me answer.

[Shannon Sharp]

Okay?

[Chad Johnson]

I don't take medicine for one. Let's start there.

[Shannon Sharp]

Okay? That's all I will say. So you say. You're the one that said you go to the doctor to take medicine.

[Chad Johnson]

No, I didn't say that. I said a checkup. We gotta go.

[Shannon Sharp]

Why you. Why are you going to get checkup? Because we owe you. Don't. You're not gonna listen to what he says anyway, so why do you care?

[Chad Johnson]

No, because he had to let me know if everything is okay with me. We gotta get.

[Shannon Sharp]

Why do you care, Ocho? Why do you care? You're not going to listen to him.

[Chad Johnson]

We gotta get a checkup. Every man.

[Shannon Sharp]

Why do you have to get a checkup when you're not gonna listen to what he says?

[Chad Johnson]

Because we're in our 50s, Uncle. We have to. What are you talking about?

[Shannon Sharp]

You don't have to.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, we do.

[Shannon Sharp]

Did your mom get checked up? Did your grandma get checkup? No, they didn't. The old people didn't get no checkup. I'm asking you, if you're not going to listen to what the doctor says, why are you going to get checked up? Why do you even have. Why do you even have medical to.

[Chad Johnson]

Make sure everything is okay with me?

[Shannon Sharp]

Why?

[Chad Johnson]

So I can know?

[Shannon Sharp]

So you just want to know you're not gonna do anything about it. So why you want to know?

[Chad Johnson]

Because I'm supposed to go get a checkup every six months. You don't do that.

[Shannon Sharp]

Why do you need a checkup when you're not going to listen to what the doctor says to help you feel better, make you feel better or be healthier? Why are you going?

[Chad Johnson]

Well, for one, this is the good thing, right? So every time I go do my checkup, there's nothing wrong with me. So really, there's nothing for the doctors told me I need to do because I always feel good. Okay, so I'm good.

[Shannon Sharp]

But you're going for some reason because.

[Chad Johnson]

I have to do my checkup every six.

[Shannon Sharp]

You don't have to. There is no law that says you have to go get a checkup. Where is the law?

[Chad Johnson]

What do you mean? They said it in school, once you hit 40, you got to get the checkup.

[Shannon Sharp]

They said a lot of things in school. They said, study and do your homework. You ain't listen to that?

[Chad Johnson]

No, because I wanted to play football. I ain't kidding. I was no scholar.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah, but then you found out. You know what? I got to study and do my homework to play football.

[Chad Johnson]

I did. I did. I did. AI yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

Jackson Dart is the first quarterback since Patrick Mahomes to lead their team to an 80 plus yard drive on the first drive of their first career start. Ocho, the moment didn't look too big for him. No, absolutely not. Look, it's the first game. Let's look. You and I are not going to start. Hey, we're not going to get a parade going, right? But what we will do is that we saw flashes and we saw glimpses of him in preseason.

[Chad Johnson]

He looked good. Yeah, that.

[Shannon Sharp]

Like Ocho. He looked good. And I was like Ocho over under eight weeks of. Of Russ, right? I said, I'm going to take the under and I'm not so sure it's going to be four. It's going to be much longer than four or five weeks, right? Also, I. You and I was talking, I said, oh, if it's me, I'm going to start him at home against the Chargers, right? I'm not going to start him on the road in the Saints in that building, that noise on. I'm going to start him in my building because I know at least for the first game, the crowd is going to be on his side and they won't boo him.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, but he.

[Shannon Sharp]

He looked. He looked good. Now it hurts that he's not Going to have his most talented player.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

On the offensive side of football joining him, but he looked good.

[Chad Johnson]

Very good. Very good.

[Shannon Sharp]

What did you like about what you saw from him?

[Chad Johnson]

Listen, not only did they run the offense right, even with the. With Malik ne's going out, he still looked good. Obviously plays a call offensively. Seeing him use his legs on some of those third downs and get those first downs and being able to play off script outside of the scheme and the plays of the call is what I was most excited about. I think about the difference between him and Russell Wilson. Obviously, Russell being in there, being able to stand in the pocket, and he doesn't have that. That. That ability to be a dual threat as he once was when he was in Seattle. So having that addition of Jackson dart, being able to come in, drop back, being in the shotgun, being able to go through his reeds and not see anything there and be able to take. To pull that thing down and take off and not only take on. Hey, boy, he could run, huh?

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah, he can run. He got legs. Yeah, absolutely.

[Chad Johnson]

I ain't know he was fast like that. I'm not saying Lamar Jackson, nothing like that, but. But young bull got wheels on him.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah, he can run. I like. I like Scatter Boo running the football.

[Chad Johnson]

Scatter Boo remind me of Peyton Hillis.

[Shannon Sharp]

He does. He.

[Chad Johnson]

Does he?

[Shannon Sharp]

Absolutely. Or. Or All Star. Michael, remember All Star from All Star.

[Chad Johnson]

Nice.

[Shannon Sharp]

But.

[Chad Johnson]

But Peyton Hillis and Scatter Boo got a little bit more wiggle to him, though. Yeah, they got a little more wiggle to him.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah. Let's see here. Giants. I mean. Oh, man, I thought. Big guy. I thought. I thought Sexy Dexy was going to you. You know, he gonna go low, man. Get that. Hey, hit that high with balls and get that arm down and get him off.

[Chad Johnson]

We got to get Dexter work on that stiff arm. If he got in the end zone, you know, that's a big man dream, huh? A intercept, a pick. A pick. Hey, boy. I think the stadium would have erupted if he would have. If he would have got past that and hurled over that. That tackle. But that would have been nice.

[Shannon Sharp]

Boy, they did a great job of getting after Herbert.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharp]

Thibodeau. Thibodeau, Burns, Abdul, Carter. Carter, Sexy Dexie. Those guys did a great job of putting pressure on him. He never really felt comfortable. Give him credit. Give them credit. They got after. They got after Justin Herbert and he finally. He finally looked mortal because he had been playing out of his mind the first three games he had played out of his mind.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Crazy.

[Shannon Sharp]

But today he looked like a mere mortal.

[Chad Johnson]

And my young bull over there on the other side who's been having some struggles. Quentin Johnston. Yeah, looking like. Looking like that boy. Looking like how he's supposed to be. Now that confidence is set in. He's three in games like this, back to back to back. And for him, it's only up from there. I just want to give him his praise because we've been doubting him because, you know, because his recent.

[Shannon Sharp]

He had some drops. Yeah, he struggled early.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But. But hey, Quinn Johnson. Boy, I know you're gonna see this boy. Boy, you that boy. Keep going, boy. Keep going.

[Shannon Sharp]

Keenan Allen look good.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Keenan Allen. Keenan Allen. We already know what he can do. We know what he can do. So we just picking up where he left off.

[Shannon Sharp]

Hampton. Hampton had 12 for a buck 28.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, boy. He was toting that thing. What?

[Shannon Sharp]

And can.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, he was nice. He was nice.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah. But a scat pack. Scat pack go.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey.

[Shannon Sharp]

Hey. He. Hey. He get a couple hundred yard game, he gonna own. He and Jackson Dark go own the city.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Listen, if. If, if Dodge was. If Dodge was smart, they'd be doing a commercial. A scat pack commercial with Scatterboat. It only makes sense. It only makes sense. I need 3% if that happened too. Scatterboat. Hey, Dodge. Holla. Scatterbo. Scat back commercial.

[Shannon Sharp]

The charges have an online problem with your left tackle. Joe Alt left the game early with an ankle injury. Putting. Putting an already injured offensive line because he was filling in for. What's the guy. He just got the big contract. Slater. Rashawn Slater. He was feeling it because he moved from right tackle to left tackle to replace Slater. Slater's out. Herbert was under siege. He was pressured on almost 48 of his drop backs.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, it's tough. It's tough. Now listen. He looked. He looked. He looked normal because he got your officer line. Now it's hard. It's hard. You running for your life when you're old lining. There's Lamar today. Justin Herbert. I mean. Shh, man.

[Shannon Sharp]

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