Nightcap - Hour 1: Mike Tomlin sounds like a politician; Tyreek unhappy, Brock Purdy can't see some of his targets

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Episode Title: Nightcap - Hour 1: Mike Tomlin Sounds Like a Politician; Tyreek Unhappy, Brock Purdy Can't See Some of His Targets
Release Date: April 2, 2025
Hosts: Mike and Jevon (with occasional contributions from Ocho)

In this engaging episode of Club Shay Shay, NFL legend Shannon Sharpe's team dives deep into some of the most pressing issues in the league. The conversation primarily revolves around Pittsburgh Steelers' head coach Mike Tomlin's communication style, Tyreek Hill's apparent dissatisfaction in Miami, and Brock Purdy's struggles with his passing accuracy. Here's a detailed breakdown of the key discussions, insights, and conclusions drawn by the hosts.

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1. Mike Tomlin's Evasive Communication and Steelers' Quarterback Dilemma ([05:30] - [11:01])

The episode kicks off with a critical analysis of Mike Tomlin, the Pittsburgh Steelers' head coach. Jevon opens the discussion by highlighting Tomlin's seemingly political demeanor when addressing the team's ongoing quarterback crisis.

• Jevon ([06:34]):
  "Hey, sound like a politician, don't he?"
  Jevon points out Tomlin's reluctance to directly acknowledge the absence of a reliable quarterback, suggesting that his communication lacks transparency.

• Mike ([06:57]):
  "Regardless of what team you are, it's 32 of them. You need a quarterback."
  Mike emphasizes the universal necessity of having a competent quarterback, underscoring that without one, even teams with strong defenses like the Steelers are at a significant disadvantage.

The hosts delve into how Tomlin's diplomatic responses might be hindering the team's efforts to secure a stable quarterback. They compare his approach to that of other high-profile coaches, expressing concern that evasive communication could reflect deeper issues within the team's management and strategy.

• Mike ([09:49]):
  "You need a quarterback in order to compete. That's it."
  Reiterating the essential role of the quarterback, Mike calls for a more straightforward acknowledgment of the team's needs from Tomlin.

2. Tyreek Hill's Satisfaction in Miami and Team Dynamics ([18:01] - [19:44])

Transitioning to Tyreek Hill, the conversation shifts to his current stint with the Miami Dolphins. Jevon references Hill's cryptic social media activity, which fans interpret as signs of potential discontent or desire for a trade.

• Jevon ([18:01]):
  "Tyreek Hill and Miami Dawkins seemingly patched things up after a rough ending to the season last year."
  Jevon notes recent developments suggesting that Hill might be reconciling with the team's management, despite previous tensions.

• Mike ([18:35]):
  "I think he's happy with the weather. I think he's happy with no taxes. I don't think he's quite happy with his quarterback situation."
  Mike speculates that while Hill appreciates the favorable climate and tax benefits in Miami, his dissatisfaction likely stems from the instability and performance issues at the quarterback position.

The hosts discuss how a quarterback's performance can directly impact a wide receiver's success and satisfaction. They speculate that Hill's frustration with inconsistent quarterback play might be influencing his overall happiness and commitment to the team.

3. Brock Purdy's Passing Struggles and the Impact of Line Protections ([37:30] - [40:26])

The focus then shifts to Brock Purdy of the San Francisco 49ers, highlighting his challenges with passing accuracy. Jevon brings up Purdy's recent remarks about his inability to see his intended targets due to the obstructive offensive line.

• Jevon ([37:30]):
  "Brock Purdy says he's about, about 40% of the time he's not able to see his intended target on throws downfield due to the size of the lineman in front of him."
  This statement underscores a significant issue Purdy faces, affecting his performance and efficiency on the field.

• Mike ([37:55]):
  "Yeah, yeah, it happens all the time, huh?"
  Mike concurs, drawing parallels with other quarterbacks who face similar visibility issues, especially those who are shorter in stature.

The discussion delves into the broader implications of a crowded offensive line and how it hampers quarterbacks' ability to make accurate throws. The hosts compare Purdy's situation with that of other quarterbacks like Russell Wilson and Kyler Murray, who also contend with similar challenges but have found ways to adapt.

• Mike ([40:03]):
  "You gotta think also in today's game, especially with the offense, that we're seeing now most of the time quarterbacks in the gun."
  Mike highlights the evolving offensive strategies in the NFL that often place quarterbacks in positions where visibility and quick decision-making are paramount.

4. The Role of Supporting Casts and Team Systems ([40:26] - [49:49])

Expanding on the discussion about quarterback visibility, the hosts explore the importance of a strong supporting cast and effective team systems in mitigating individual player limitations.

Mike and Jevon emphasize that a well-rounded team can compensate for a quarterback's shortcomings. They discuss how players like Baker Mayfield and Russell Wilson thrive in environments where they are surrounded by skilled offensive players who can create opportunities and provide reliable targets.

• Mike ([49:18]):
  "For a quarterback that may be on the decline where he's not the same as he once was, if you're a quarterback and you're not in the position and you need those players around you to make you better when you're not the caliber player anymore, you have to be in the right system."
  This insight reinforces the notion that a quarterback's success is heavily dependent on the team structure and the quality of teammates.

Jevon adds that without such support, even talented quarterbacks can struggle to maintain consistency and lead their teams effectively. The conversation underscores the necessity for teams to invest not just in star quarterbacks but also in building a robust and complementary roster.

5. Additional Insights and Broader NFL Implications ([49:49] - [58:38])

Towards the latter part of the episode, the hosts broaden the discussion to include general NFL trends, such as the volatility of quarterback positions and the impact of injuries on team performance.

They reference notable players and their career trajectories, drawing lessons on how adaptability and a strong support system can influence longevity and success in the league. The conversation also touches on high-profile signings and trades, analyzing their potential impact on team dynamics and performance.

• Mike ([53:36]):
  "It's very hard to hide your weaknesses when those around you ain't that good."
  This statement encapsulates the episode's recurring theme: the interplay between individual talent and team support in achieving success.

6. Conclusion and Final Thoughts

In wrapping up, Mike and Jevon reiterate the critical role that quarterbacks play in the NFL, not just as individual stars but as leaders who can elevate their entire team's performance. They advocate for more transparent communication from coaches and management, stressing that acknowledging team weaknesses is the first step toward meaningful improvement.

• Mike ([09:49]):
  "You need a quarterback in order to compete. That's it."
  This final remark serves as a concise summary of the episode's central thesis, emphasizing the indispensable role of quarterbacks in the competitive landscape of the NFL.

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Notable Quotes:

• Jevon ([06:34]):
  "Hey, sound like a politician, don't he?"

• Mike ([06:57]):
  "Regardless of what team you are, it's 32 of them. You need a quarterback."

• Mike ([09:49]):
  "You need a quarterback in order to compete. That's it."

• Jevon ([18:01]):
  "Tyreek Hill and Miami Dawkins seemingly patched things up after a rough ending to the season last year."

• Mike ([18:35]):
  "I think he's happy with the weather. I think he's happy with no taxes. I don't think he's quite happy with his quarterback situation."

• Jevon ([37:30]):
  "Brock Purdy says he's about, about 40% of the time he's not able to see his intended target on throws downfield due to the size of the lineman in front of him."

• Mike ([37:55]):
  "Yeah, yeah, it happens all the time, huh?"

• Mike ([40:03]):
  "You gotta think also in today's game, especially with the offense, that we're seeing now most of the time quarterbacks in the gun."

• Mike ([49:18]):
  "For a quarterback that may be on the decline where he's not the same as he once was, if you're a quarterback and you're not in the position and you need those players around you to make you better when you're not the caliber player anymore, you have to be in the right system."

This episode offers a deep dive into the strategic and interpersonal dynamics that shape NFL teams. By focusing on the communication styles of coaches, the satisfaction levels of star players, and the technical challenges faced by quarterbacks, Club Shay Shay provides listeners with a nuanced understanding of the complexities within professional football.

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[Mike Thomas]

All right.

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He's a free agent, as you guys know. He came to visit last Friday. We had a really productive day. He's been in this thing a long time. I've been in this thing a long time. But there's no substitute for, you know, intimacy and spending time together and getting to know one another in a non competitive environment. And so that was really good. But I don't have any new updates in terms of where the process is. We'll see where it leads us. No unsettling, is it or is it to not have this situation? I'm really comfortable with being unsettled this time of year, to be quite honest with you. It's about talent acquisition. We got two main means of acquiring talent. Free agency in the draft. We multitask. We do both those needs that we fulfill in free agency, we do so there. And when we don't, we fulfill it in the draft. And so I just learned over the years that this, this time of year, although, you know, day to day can be somewhat uncomfortable, it is a process.

[Mike Thomas]

Hey, sound like a politician, don't he?

[Jevon Kearse]

You see how he's sweating? He like, we ain't got no quarterback.

[Mike Thomas]

Yeah, yeah. Every, every, everything he said, it sounds good. It sounds beautiful. But in order to compete in this league, regardless of what team you are, it's 32 of them. You need a quarterback.

[Jevon Kearse]

Absolutely.

[Mike Thomas]

There's a reason why they make and command the salary that they do. There's none you could do without a quarterback. And ever since, Ben Roethlisberger has been gone even on the tail end of his career where things weren't really that.

[Jevon Kearse]

Good that being down the vine. Yeah, they should. Yeah. They were signed that there was slippage and they didn't want to see it.

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[Jevon Kearse]

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[Mike Thomas]

Well, no, I don't. I think they saw it, but they didn't want to upset him similar to how they upset Aaron Rogers. Similar how they upset Brett Favre.

[Jevon Kearse]

Guess what?

[Mike Thomas]

They didn't want to do that in.

[Jevon Kearse]

The process of upsetting him. Guess what you had. You had another 10 years of. 12 years of prosperity, being able to be competitive, right? The same thing with Aaron Rodgers. You got Jordan, love and then boom. And you have to be competitive. You've got to. You've got to. Especially when you see the slippage. Now, I don't agree with what Coach Belichick did with Tom Brady. That's a totally different instance because Tom Brady was still going to Super Bowl. They were still playing in the AFC Championship game. Right? But in this situation, it's totally different. And Mike Thomas says he's comfortable with Mason Rudolph being the team starting quarterback next season. That's why we brought him back. I'm comfortable with that. We've been there before. He's very capable. If you if think about what he said. What did he say? Oo we brought him back. Why the hell you let him go?

[Mike Thomas]

Yeah. You know, listen, is a head coach, you got to say all the right things. You have to say all the right things. Remember, I just. We just talked about it.

[Jevon Kearse]

People tell you the truth. Now this man. Hold on, wait a. Don't, don't, don't lie with chat. What did OO say last night?

[Mike Thomas]

You ain't even let me finish. I was getting ready. I was just getting ready to give you the example of what Mr. Haslam just said in telling the truth, saying that we missed. And now we got.

[Jevon Kearse]

On the. On the.

[Mike Thomas]

On the next hand, we got Mike Tomlin giving us a lie. Don't tell me the beautiful lie. Tell me the truth. We don't have a quarterback right now. We don't. I should. I shouldn't be unsettled. You shouldn't be comfortable right now because you haven't had a quarterback in a while. In order to compete in the AFC north and to get back to the historic run that the Steelers are known for, winning championships, you need a goddamn quarterback. That's it. You know, that's why I say you sound like a politician. What do politicians do most? The best. What are they best at? Lying to the people, Getting you to believe in what they're saying, knowing it's not the truth. And I'm a fan of the Steelers because I love them. The Steelers fans love me and I love the playoffs. But you need a quarterback in order to compete. That's it.

[Jevon Kearse]

Man, he sweat. Mike Thomas was sweating like somebody on the Maury Povich show. You are the father by the dog. Look, I get it. But if Mason Rudolph was the guy, they would have never let him left the building. Name a quarterback that they left let leave the building and he's supposed to be the guy. He's capable. Well, I mean, what they do that at Ocho?

[Mike Thomas]

Hey, you know what this tells you? Do you know what this tells you? This tells you how hard it is to come by good quarterbacks. Good.

[Jevon Kearse]

So let me. Good.

[Mike Thomas]

Wait. Rick Rosen got the Bears to the Super Bowl.

[Jevon Kearse]

Yeah.

[Mike Thomas]

We just need somebody good.

[Jevon Kearse]

Yeah, you. I don't think you could do that now. Turn the buckle over and make the play just defensively. They gonna make you. They'll make Donald. I don't think not.

[Mike Thomas]

We talk about the Steelers. We talk about the Steelers, huh? Yeah. Who, what is the identity for the Steelers?

[Jevon Kearse]

They're what defense?

[Mike Thomas]

I'm not saying they the Steel goddamn Curtain, but they're known for their defense. If you don't have a quarterback, in order for them to compete week in and week out, your defense has to play up the par.

[Jevon Kearse]

But I'm just trying to.

[Mike Thomas]

Ain't no quarterback walking through that room right now that's gonna change the franchise. Ain't no Joe Burrow, ain't no Lamar Jackson. You have a 41, 42 year old Aaron Rodgers that might be your quarterback. And you don't know what you're going to get from him week to week. You don't even know if you're going to show up the minicam.

[Jevon Kearse]

He said good quarterbacks. What good quarterbacks, you know, teams let walk out. I mean you let Russ leave the building, you let Justin Fields lead the building for Mason Ruda, Justin Fields, Russ are no longer there. And you said the best option for the Steelers moving forward was Mason Rudolph.

[Mike Thomas]

Absolutely not. That's why I say he lied like a politician. He lied like the president. They promise you everything and when it's time to show up and get it done, it's crickets now you putting all that pressure on Mason Rudolph and Aaron Rodgers doesn't come.

[Jevon Kearse]

Oh, you stuck.

[Mike Thomas]

Not only are you stuck, now you put the onus on Mason Rudolph to back up everything you said.

[Jevon Kearse]

Man, ain't nobody. Look, ain't nobody holding Mike Tomlin that because everybody done so. We don't saw a large enough sample size for Mason Rudolph. We know what he is. We know what he is all of a sudden he ain't finna turn into no. No, he ain't finna have no season like anybody. I shouldn't say he's not because hell, nobody thought Sam Darnold was gonna have the season that he had. So who didn't.

[Mike Thomas]

Man, the Pope, man, Listen, I'm. Listen, the Pope, rest his soul, could have been the quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings and did what Sam Donald did last year with Jordan, Addison Hawkinson, and goddamn Justin.

[Jevon Kearse]

Yeah, I would have said that had I not seen. Had I not seen Sam Darnold. Had I not seen Sam Darnold, I might have believed you.

[Mike Thomas]

Obviously. I tell you what, quarterback is only good as an important cat, huh? It takes a. It takes a village. And when the village is good, it can hide a lot of your weaknesses.

[Jevon Kearse]

True. But guess what? Last two games of the season, he reverted back to those same guys to throw to how he. Look. Expectations change, T. Ocho, when you ain't got no expectations, it's kind of like. It's kind of like, hey, you start seeing this girl, she starts seeing this guy, and y'all ain't got no expectation. You doing you. You do it, she doing her. Now all of a sudden, y'all come together, and now you have expectations. Oh, where you being. See, if you ain't got no expectations, don't nobody ask where you being. You call. Oh, it is what it is. Hey. Yeah.

[Mike Thomas]

Hey. We call it complications.

[Jevon Kearse]

M. I'm. I'm one of them guys. You know, Love is like a nclair. Once it goes cold, it can't be reheated.

[Mike Thomas]

Man. Wait a. Why you think you slick, bro? Go ahead, get that to me again. I'm use. I'm use a hotel penny.

[Jevon Kearse]

You know what it is? Love is like an eclair. Once it goes cold, it can't be reheated.

[Mike Thomas]

Oh, that's a good one. That's a good one.

[Jevon Kearse]

There are.

[Mike Thomas]

Hey, here's the thing.

[Jevon Kearse]

Ho. Cho. See, if it's like this here, I mean, even like this, some can sleep in through that crack. But just imagine if the separation gets. Gets farther and further apart. I'm just saying, Ocho. I'm just saying. Listen, I done had it, you know? We take a break, okay? Yeah. I'm not. I'm not responsible for whatever happens on this break.

[Mike Thomas]

Yes, sir. Yes, sir. That's why. That's why I don't take breaks, man.

[Jevon Kearse]

Ojoy, I had one. I was like, hold on. Took a break. You know, I do. It's doing your right.

[Mike Thomas]

Talk to me now. Come on, now.

[Jevon Kearse]

She got mad. Cause I was seeing. I said, hold on, we not together. But I thought you was going, right? So you thought I was gonna wait while you do you Wait, wait, wait. What?

[Mike Thomas]

Wait. Who?

[Jevon Kearse]

Shit. Hey, wait, man. Hey, Flag. Flag. I was Flagging. Them down. I ain't waiting on nothing. Hey, I called Uber. I called Uber and catch a ride. That's how quick I was trying to get to where I was going.

[Mike Thomas]

Ocho, you ain't faster than me. Huh? Wait for. Wait for who? Wait for what? You know how long we've been in the game?

[Jevon Kearse]

Huh? I'm out the game.

[Mike Thomas]

Oh, I'm out the game, too.

[Jevon Kearse]

I'm.

[Mike Thomas]

I'm out with you. I don't know what you're waiting for. You laughing? I ain't playing. I ain't got time to play. What did I tell you about that mountain? 20s wasted them 30s, wasted them 40s. Wait. Oh, well, I'm about to go on the other side of the mountain. You think I'm gonna play? Well, what I told you about choosing who choose you.

[Jevon Kearse]

You right about that.

[Mike Thomas]

Now, come on, now. I ain't got time to play what I told you 20, 26. I'm gonna get. I'm gonna be what Mary? Man, you'll be. And you'll be a fool if you think I'm not. You see what happened to everybody else that has gotten married? Do you see the blessings that have been bestowed upon these individuals that are getting married?

[Jevon Kearse]

Well, how about you know that? Then you see what happened to. I see what happened to LeBron and Kobe Riff. He got mad. Jordan got mad. Josh.

[Mike Thomas]

Huh?

[Jevon Kearse]

And let me go to. What's them dating sites? What's some dating sites?

[Mike Thomas]

Nah, you don't need no dating sites. You don't need no dating sites. You see? Huh? Hey, you see? You see? I didn't. I didn't put my band back on. I'm practicing.

[Jevon Kearse]

Oh, you practicing?

[Mike Thomas]

I'm practicing. I'm practicing. I'm practicing. I think. I'm thinking. I'm thinking about popping, you know, popping the question. Maybe about. Maybe. In the summertime. In the summertime.

[Jevon Kearse]

The only question I'm asking is, hey, how much? How much y'all paying me? And that's the only question I'm asking. I don't know what you talking about.

[Mike Thomas]

Hold on. Wait. Who gonna pay you?

[Jevon Kearse]

I don't know. I'm gonna give me a job. Hell, I gotta get some jobs like you.

[Mike Thomas]

Oh, Yeah, I got 50. Eleven of them.

[Jevon Kearse]

Oh, Joe. Tyreek Hill and Miami Dawkins seemingly patched things up after a rough ending to the season. But he posted some cryptic emojis in response to trade speculation. Reek posted a handful of cryptic posts responding to trade speculation.

[Mike Thomas]

Peace sign.

[Jevon Kearse]

Why doesn't he just officially ask for trade you think Tyreek is happy in Miami?

[Mike Thomas]

I mean, I would think so.

[Jevon Kearse]

I think he's happy with the weather. I think he's happy with no taxes. I don't think he's quite happy with his quarterback situation.

[Mike Thomas]

Yeah, Punk. Man. That's a tough one. That's a tough one because didn't Tyreek just lead the NFL? What? Not just, what, two years ago.

[Jevon Kearse]

Before he led the league and receiving.

[Mike Thomas]

Yeah. With the same quarterback, right? Yes, same quarterback. So it shouldn't be any issues. It shouldn't be any issues I have.

[Jevon Kearse]

And what's been the issue with the quarterback?

[Mike Thomas]

Oh, he's been injured. Oh, okay. Okay. I see what you're saying. That's tough. That's tough. I'm not sure how Tyreek is feeling. I've talked to him on numerous occasions, but I like to stay away from stuff like that, especially seeing dudes in the off season. I don't want. I know they don't want to talk about no football. They got to do that all the goddamn. All the goddamn time. So I think, for me, the situation is good. I would love to be in Miami. I would love to be in Miami and hope. And hope that Tua can stay upright, you know, this upcoming year. He can stay healthy. And we. We. We know it. We know that he can. We know what Tua can do with Tyreek and waddle if he's upright and healthy. And that. That's been. That's been the main issue.

[Jevon Kearse]

It's hard ojo when the quarterback is injured frequently. And getting timing with a quarterback. You got one week. So I got three weeks retire. I got three weeks with. With Tua. Then I got a week, maybe two weeks with another guy. Then I got seven weeks with Tua. Then I got another two, three weeks. So it's hard, you know, it's hard to build chemistry with, you know, Think about what it took for you to get on the same page with Carson.

[Mike Thomas]

Carson. Yeah.

[Jevon Kearse]

I don't care. You're not gonna get on that same page because you and Carson, y'all. There was a look that you could give Carson a Carson.

[Mike Thomas]

And we knew what to do.

[Jevon Kearse]

Was thinking.

[Mike Thomas]

We knew what to do. Yeah.

[Jevon Kearse]

That came from years and years.

[Mike Thomas]

Yeah.

[Jevon Kearse]

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[Wendy]

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[Jevon Kearse]

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[Mike Thomas]

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[Mike Thomas]

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[Jevon Kearse]

Switch upfront payment of $45 for 3 month plan equivalent to $15 per month required intro rate first 3 months only, then full price plan options available, taxes and fees extra. See full [e-mail] during an appearance on Built for More podcast, Brock Purdy said he thought fatigue played a big role in the United dropped to 6 and 11 last season last year. Man, guys were tiring. That season is no joke. And when you go from July to training camp and everything and all the way to the end of February and then you really get five weeks off. So until you've got to report back and then you're going to go, you're do going at it again. Guys are tired. They're still beat up their bodies. Is that a valid excuse?

[Mike Thomas]

Ojo now they weren't tired. That wasn't. They weren't tied. But I can tell you, I can tell you why Their record was what it was because of injuries. I can tell you that. That's why it looked the way it did last year. It had to do with being tired.

[Jevon Kearse]

Well, Chiefs, he'll be exhausted. I don't even know how to cheat. I don't even know how to cheat. Holding up. Hey, because they've been in five Super Bowls in the last six years. They've gone to the AFC Championship game every year.

[Mike Thomas]

Every year.

[Jevon Kearse]

So if y'all are tired.

[Mike Thomas]

So from that.

[Jevon Kearse]

Yeah, I don't even know how to. I don't know how the Chiefs. I don't even know how the Chiefs holding up. Ojo. I don't. Honestly, I don't.

[Mike Thomas]

I mean, it's. I. I understand what Brock is saying, but. No, everybody's tired at that point, especially depending on how far you make it into the play, into the postseason. Everybody's tired, everybody's injured.

[Jevon Kearse]

I don't like Ocho. Let's just say, for the sake of argument, me and you and you and I, we're arguing. Why would you even say that? Do guys understand how. That when they say things, that seems like you're making excuses, do they understand how people look at it? Like you're making excuses?

[Mike Thomas]

Right. But also. See, this is what I talked about, too, also. You want players telling the truth now. Remember I said that? Yeah. I wish players would be more honest on how they truly feel instead of always being goddamn politically correct. Now we're getting players that are telling the truth on how they truly feel, and we're chastising them for it.

[Jevon Kearse]

For not robots. So you like McMillan saying that he don't like watching film and he doesn't study.

[Mike Thomas]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no.

[Jevon Kearse]

I know that's what you just said. You said you won't play. Of telling the truth.

[Mike Thomas]

Yeah.

[Jevon Kearse]

You can't have it both ways. You just said you like players telling the truth. MacMillan told the truth. He doesn't like studying film. He doesn't watch film alone because he watched it as a group at practice.

[Mike Thomas]

Right.

[Jevon Kearse]

So you okay with that?

[Mike Thomas]

No, I'm not.

[Jevon Kearse]

Why not? He told the truth.

[Mike Thomas]

You asked me a question. I answered the question. I want people to be a little bit more honest sometimes.

[Jevon Kearse]

Okay, he was honest. But you're not okay with that honesty.

[Mike Thomas]

I ain't like. I ain't like that honesty. No. I ain't like that one. Oh, Lord.

[Jevon Kearse]

You got to pick.

[Mike Thomas]

You got to. You got to pick and choose what you say now?

[Jevon Kearse]

That's my pocho. You just made my point. Pick and choose. In this situation, why would you give. Why would you make an excuse? Hey, it didn't work. We didn't play our best football. That's on me. I've got to play better. Guys around me got to play better. So even when guys get injured, we lost some key players, but guys that come in, we're plenty good enough with the guys that we had to replace. Even if you don't believe that, because ain't no making up for Christian McCaffrey. You ain't got nobody. That guy's an offensive player of the year. Yeah, he's in the MVP discussion. See, hey, big trend. But hey, guys have to come in and do their jobs when the starters go down. That's why you're in that position, bro. Don't give me that. We were tired. What the hell you think Kansas City was? Kansas City had gone. They went back to back super bowl and went to the third Super Bowl. So they should have been exhausted it.

[Mike Thomas]

Yeah.

[Jevon Kearse]

And remember oo the year before they went to the championship game and the year before that they went to the Super Bowl.

[Mike Thomas]

Hey, you know what though, man? Man, that. I don't know, just everybody. Everybody sound like some damn robots. Everybody was sounding like some robots. I mean, that's. That's basically what the NFL sounds like in general. You listen to quarterbacks talk, you listen to certain players talk, everything is the same. It's the same thing, same story, same answer, same same everything.

[Jevon Kearse]

So you like the excuse making?

[Mike Thomas]

No, I didn't know. I'm just saying. I'm just saying.

[Jevon Kearse]

What was that? So tell me what that was.

[Mike Thomas]

Oh, that was the excuse about being tired.

[Jevon Kearse]

Oh, yeah.

[Mike Thomas]

I don't get. I want it. Listen.

[Jevon Kearse]

No, that's what he said. So you okay with the excuse making?

[Mike Thomas]

That's. That's how you felt? Listen, he's telling the truth on how he felt. Okay, I felt we went 6, 11 or whatever it may have been because we were tired. Well, I. To me, based on what I saw, it had nothing to do with being tired. I saw half your goddamn team depleted. Caillou, out. Trent Williams, out. Christian McCaffrey out. Okay, there you go. Three goddamn stars out. That's why you had six and 11, I can tell you that.

[Jevon Kearse]

I don't. Woo. I just don't get these guys, man. Everything. Everything shouldn't. You don't have to say everything.

[Mike Thomas]

Yeah. Hey, sometimes you got to be real unman. Oh, my goodness. Hey, Brock. Say, boy, we was. We was tired. Oh, man, I used to. Hey, listen, I used to go to School, man. You want to know what time it is, Huh? I used to walk 12 miles uphill both ways to go to school.

[Jevon Kearse]

Now it's tired.

[Mike Thomas]

Come on. He was tired, man. Shoot. Well, football is recreation. That's fun.

[Jevon Kearse]

Man. I just. Look, there are ways that you can say things and to get your point across. And with these guys now. But look, see, I can tell the people that's in the chat. Ocho. That's never been a part of a team because they want to say anything, because they don't care. Because at the end of the day, when you're a part of a team, you just can't say anything. You just can't do anything because it's for the betterment of the team when you're an individual. Now, Serena, we want to say she was tired, okay? That's Serena. She ain't got nobody feeling in for. Right. Tiger woods wanted to say he was tired. Well, that's fine. But when you are part of a team, you understand, right? And a lot of times, people have never been a part of a team or part of a winning team. There's a difference between the two.

[Mike Thomas]

Yeah.

[Jevon Kearse]

Go back and study my track record.

[Mike Thomas]

Talk to him, huh?

[Jevon Kearse]

I know, Curv. Asian dog. I know. That's why I'm single. I'm okay with being single. Wait, what? It seemed like you're not okay with being single. Hold on.

[Mike Thomas]

What was that name?

[Jevon Kearse]

Hold on. It seemed like Elcho. You know what it seemed like? It seemed like everybody got a problem with me being single but me. And who said I was single?

[Mike Thomas]

You got you somebody.

[Jevon Kearse]

I don't remember. I don't remember saying anything. Hold on.

[Mike Thomas]

You got you somebody and ain't tell nobody.

[Jevon Kearse]

I've never told anybody anything. I don't say yay or nay, okay? I just let people talk.

[Mike Thomas]

Oh, let me. Let me know.

[Jevon Kearse]

Better that way. Cause I like what people. I like when people say, well, I thought this was this, okay?

[Mike Thomas]

Right?

[Jevon Kearse]

Man, I ain't know you. I didn't know I supposed to make an announcement. I'm just trying to figure out. So was I supposed to tell people?

[Mike Thomas]

Make it a. I would listen. I've been trying to hook you up with somebody for damn near three years now. And you.

[Jevon Kearse]

I ain't got no flat tie. Why you trying to hook me up, you tow truck?

[Mike Thomas]

Hey, boy. Hey. Hey. You saw what I. What I sent you earlier today. I saw that, man. Boy, listen, you know I don't go nowhere. But I told you 220. I told you 20, 25. I'm not playing. I'm going out. I'm stepping out.

[Jevon Kearse]

You need to get back. You need to get. You need to get back. You need to get your ass back inside. Why?

[Mike Thomas]

What happened?

[Jevon Kearse]

You just need to be inside.

[Mike Thomas]

No, we still got. How many. How many more months we got before 2025 is up?

[Jevon Kearse]

9.

[Mike Thomas]

So we got nine more months of me being outside and nine more months of me putting on clothes. But listen, let me. Let me finish, though.

[Jevon Kearse]

Go ahead.

[Mike Thomas]

I went out. I went out Saturday. I went to a little place, nice little lounge. You know, I don't really go nowhere, so I'm excited. I'm like a little kid. Look, lounge in Broward called. Called Seasha. They were very nice. You know, they played some good music. Good. Good oldies, too.

[Jevon Kearse]

Good oldies.

[Mike Thomas]

80S 90s.

[Jevon Kearse]

I like that.

[Mike Thomas]

Hey, they played Mint Condition. I ain't heard this song from mint condition since 1994. Please tell you. Please tell me. Remember the song? So Fine.

[Jevon Kearse]

So Fine. Yeah.

[Mike Thomas]

Oh, hey, I was so rude. I told the DJ I had him running back three times.

[Jevon Kearse]

Damn.

[Mike Thomas]

I. I swear, I. I had him running back three times. I ain't heard it in so long, and it sounded so good. Then the day. The day I went to. I went to something in. In.

[Jevon Kearse]

In.

[Mike Thomas]

In Broward called BB Sundays. They was in there cutting up. You hear me?

[Jevon Kearse]

Were they?

[Mike Thomas]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, they was in there.

[Jevon Kearse]

Guest appearance, huh? You need me to come down there and make a guest appearance, Man?

[Mike Thomas]

They told me that, man. Dog, they told me to ask you. Slim Cat, I know you're gonna see this. He told me, Mantel, come on down here. Cause what I sent you, it's, like, all over this. It looks just like that.

[Jevon Kearse]

Oh, so I'm trying to be good. Oh, so I'm just trying to. I'm trying to. Look.

[Mike Thomas]

Hey, you gotta. Hey, uncle, you gotta come to Miami. Let the people in Miami see y'all. Yeah, it's okay.

[Jevon Kearse]

You ain't gotta.

[Mike Thomas]

Come on. Hey, I could take it to Tootsies. You hear me? No, I can take it.

[Jevon Kearse]

I don't want to go no place like that.

[Mike Thomas]

Well, I can say, okay, let me take you to booby trap. Well, what you. Are you gonna cut it by me?

[Jevon Kearse]

Booty trap?

[Mike Thomas]

No, Booby trap.

[Jevon Kearse]

Booty.

[Mike Thomas]

Yeah, that's where you get it from. You go to booby trap, you get the booty.

[Jevon Kearse]

Nah, nah. I'm done with you, man. The Jeff. Gia. We believe Justin is the starter. We believe in Justin. We believe we can win with Justin. We're excited about Justin. Justin's potential. Fields 26 will follow Aaron Rodgers who went 6 and 12 in two years as the starter. Fields went 4 and 2 and his six starts last season throwing five touchdowns with an interception. The jets signed Fields to a two year deal hoping he can prove their law improve their long term starter. You like what? The gym. You like the gym? Showing confidence.

[Mike Thomas]

I love that he came out and said this. Justin has done. He's had to deal with enough. He had to deal with enough when he was in Chicago. Them letting him go, not believing in him, him going to the Steelers, him getting the job because Russell got injured. Right. Then when Russell gets back, the job is taken away from him. So to hear the GM over the jets say, you are our starter and now you have nothing to worry about. You don't have to look over your shoulder so you can just go play football. Agree, the main thing is the main thing now the ball is in your court. You have a chance to solidify yourself as a starting quarterback for the New York jets based on your play. And if it doesn't work out the way it should, it's nobody else's fault except your own.

[Jevon Kearse]

Yeah, I don't know who the OC is Ocho. I think the thing is people looking at the jets like look at the team, look at the players that have left the jets and the success they've had. Look at Gino, look at Sam Darnold. Now the difference is look at what Gino was throwing to in Seattle, right? Look at what Sam Donald was throwing to. Now are y'all going to give him, are y'all going to give Justin Field those type of weapons?

[Mike Thomas]

I mean they need, they need one more if they want to add one because you already have one in. Garrett Wilson, who was able to win. He had a hell of a, hell of a goddamn rookie season and things kind of tapered off after that. But we know what he can do. If you're able to give him the ball and you put him in positions to make some of the plays that other players are getting, the opportunities to around the league, you know what you can do with that. So we had the draft coming up. I mean, I think all offseason acquisitions or moves have been made to date so far.

[Jevon Kearse]

Brock Purdy says he's about, about 40% of the time he's not able to see his intended target on throws downfield due to the size of the lineman in front of him. He talked about how important it is knowing coverages scheme and knowing where his receivers are supposed to be. How common is this? Is this typical for quarterbacks who aren't very tall?

[Mike Thomas]

Yeah, yeah, it happens all the time, huh? All the time. Drew Brees, Baker Mason.

[Jevon Kearse]

Russell Wilson.

[Mike Thomas]

Russell Wilson.

[Jevon Kearse]

You have to throw between the linemen. You have to find. Throw. That's why they call it throwing lanes.

[Mike Thomas]

Yeah. And you gotta. You have to anticipate as well.

[Jevon Kearse]

Yes.

[Mike Thomas]

I mean, it's been. Remember Doug Flutie? Hell, when Doug Flutie played.

[Jevon Kearse]

Yes. Well, I'm trying to. What you think Kyler Murray sees, man?

[Mike Thomas]

What? That's. I couldn't. I couldn't think of it. Calum Murray, hell, half the time he.

[Jevon Kearse]

Probably looking at live and ass.

[Mike Thomas]

Who else is short? Huh?

[Jevon Kearse]

Who else?

[Mike Thomas]

I know everybody.

[Jevon Kearse]

Kyler Drew was short. Baker Mayfield is short.

[Mike Thomas]

Short.

[Jevon Kearse]

Russell Wilson.

[Mike Thomas]

Yeah, I said Russ. Trying to think. Who else? Oh, yeah, two is not that tall.

[Jevon Kearse]

Bryce Young.

[Mike Thomas]

Okay, Bryce. Bryce is short. Yeah. Bryce is in that boat too.

[Jevon Kearse]

But you know what, Ocho? I'd have said that after I got 50 million. Yeah.

[Mike Thomas]

I wouldn't have said it before. I ain't been nothing but. Anyway, listen, the fact that he did say it, he's still in a good position anyway because he's already put in the small sample size of work. Well, he gonna get his money anyway, regardless. But the fact that you've been able to do what you've done, even though you couldn't see 40% of the time, I mean, it can work in your favor too.

[Jevon Kearse]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, look, Mike Vick wasn't the tallest. Johnny Manziel wasn't tall.

[Mike Thomas]

No, not at all. Not at all.

[Jevon Kearse]

How tall is. Hurts. It's not like Hurts. Six'five Wait, he's probably average height. Probably six one.

[Mike Thomas]

Yeah. Jaden got. Jayden Got a little height, though.

[Jevon Kearse]

How tall is that? Jayden Daniels?

[Mike Thomas]

Jaden tall? He about six three.

[Jevon Kearse]

Yeah, but Ocho. But he's six one. His offensive line is six six.

[Mike Thomas]

Yeah.

[Jevon Kearse]

Who can you see it over?

[Mike Thomas]

Yeah, you right. But you know, once you drop back, everybody gonna be.

[Jevon Kearse]

Josh Allen. Yeah, everybody gonna be.

[Mike Thomas]

You gotta think also in today's game, especially with the offense, that, that, that we're seeing. We're seeing now most of the time quarterbacks in the gun.

[Jevon Kearse]

Yeah, for sure.

[Mike Thomas]

Most of. Most of the time quarterbacks in the gun. So you're already at an advantage. If you are short quarterback anyway, then that all. All comes down to you processing and having anticipatory skills and when to get the ball out and hoping your receivers get open.

[Jevon Kearse]

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[Wendy]

It's Jeff T from Club 520 podcast here with my latest fresh take on 2025 NCAA tournament brought to you by Wendy's, the official Hamburger of March Madness. What a weekend. Easily my two favorite games from the Elite 8 were Duke beating Alabama, Florida beating Texas Tech, Duke beat Alabama with their defense being able to attack and transition and getting out on the open floor, finding Cooper Flag and all their talented players, and Florida beating Texas Tech. What a win by them coming up big in the end. Now with my Final Four is set. I like Florida beating Auburn because of the way they play. They got a closer and Clayton Jr. And I got Duke playing Houston and I got Houston being my championship in a 2025 NCAA tournament. It should be a good game, should be exciting weekend. I'm looking forward to it. We'll see if I'm right. But while you watching the games in the meantime, remember the freshest deal in fast food's gotta be Wendy's Right now you can get a Junior Bacon Cheeseburger or a double stack for $1 with an in app offer and a purchase. Again, head to Wendy's app to grab a $1 junior bacon cheeseburger, a $1 double stack with an in app offer and a purchase for the freshest hamburgers around. Gotta be Wendy's, the official Hamburger of March Madness.

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[Mike Thomas]

Who's paying for the mattress Topper?

[Jevon Kearse]

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[Mike Thomas]

Aren't we getting a mini fridge?

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[Mike Thomas]

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Glad we can agree on something easily. Pool split and Send Money with PayPal. Get started in the PayPal app. A PayPal account is required to send and receive money. A balance account is required to create a pool. Russell Wilson is coming to the Giants with the expectation that he'll be the starting quarterback. In his presser oo he said, yeah, I expect to be the starter to come in here and be ready to rock and roll every day. I think this team really looking for somebody to lead them every way. Is this a match made in heaven for the Giants, Ocho, I mean, listen, remember now, Ocho, before you go.

[Mike Thomas]

Come on.

[Jevon Kearse]

They gave Jameis two years, eight million. Russ basically is a one year deal for ten and a half million that's guaranteed. He can make up to 21 million. But he got to win. Like what? He gets X amount of dollars per win or something like that. Right? But anyway, do you see them taking a quarterback with the third. I think the third pick.

[Mike Thomas]

Listen, I, I, listen, I, I don't, I don't, I don't care if they had 33rd.

[Jevon Kearse]

Go ahead.

[Mike Thomas]

Listen, I don't have, I don't care if they had 37 quarterbacks on this, on a, on a, on a roster right now. They taking a quarterback come draft time because there's still no quarterback of the future. Now whoever they draft at quarterback, they have somebody they can learn from and learn behind for a year before they're put into that offense. And depending on how the play from whoever start, whether it's DeVito, whether it's James Winston, whether what's Wilson, man, the bit.

[Jevon Kearse]

Stop. The veto ain't starting. You know damn well the veto ain't stopping. Stop with that.

[Mike Thomas]

I'm just, now I'm just calling the names of the people on the roster. Baby. Let me, let me, let me, let me get my point across. But either way, it could be, it could be, it could be Shadora, it could be Cam Ward. They might even surprise us and pick somebody else. You never know. You know how the draft works, right? Sometimes when it comes to their decision making. But either way, I think Russell Wilson probably going to be the starter everywhere he goes. He's the ultimate, not Only competitor. But his approach to the game and willingness to learn the offense and, you know, obviously be a team player and all that good stuff. He says all the right stuff.

[Jevon Kearse]

Yeah.

[Mike Thomas]

So there's a reason why the Giants wanted to extend that grace to him, allow him another year. And I'm. I'm excited. I mean, Russell Wilson, Malik, neighbors, they still need to do something with the effing offensive line.

[Jevon Kearse]

Yeah.

[Mike Thomas]

And get another. No disrespect to brother, Brother Slayton. Very nice receiver you got, Malik neighbors, but you still need another playmaker. The Giants.

[Jevon Kearse]

Did they bring Slayton back? Isn't he back?

[Mike Thomas]

Yeah, he back. That's what I just said. They still need another playmaker. They just play Slate, but they still need another playmaker outside of them, you know, to go with Malik, Neighbors and then Slayton, that officer line boy, is abysmal. It's abysmal because. So you're going to have. You're going to have Russell running for his life. Outside of that, there's so many things they need to address offensively to actually be competitive week in and week out, especially when you're bringing it. Bring you bringing in a quarterback, you. You definitely drafting a quarterback. I don't know who it's going to be, whether it be Shador, whether it be Cam Ward or maybe surprises to pick somebody else you might like that you've seen, but there are other issues that need to be fixed. And I. And to me, I would start with that offensive line.

[Jevon Kearse]

If I told you five years ago this would. Russell Wilson's career, would you have believed it bouncing around like this on Joe, you wouldn't have.

[Mike Thomas]

No. No, probably not. Not. Probably not. Because even me, as. As a lover and an enthusiast of the game and understanding of it, the trajectory in which he was going was always. To me, he was viewed as the top, the cream of the top, one of. One of the elites, because he was consistent year in and year out, Year in and year out, he was consistent. He was a place of comfortability where he knew a system, and you just go in there and do what you need to do year in and year out. Now on the back end, things change. I wish Pete Carroll hadn't made that call. You already know what I'm talking about.

[Jevon Kearse]

Yeah.

[Mike Thomas]

And you would have had two rings under your belt.

[Jevon Kearse]

Yeah. But I think, man, Seattle saw something. They saw slippage Ojo.

[Mike Thomas]

Okay.

[Jevon Kearse]

Ocho, he's been on his third team in 33 years.

[Mike Thomas]

Yeah.

[Jevon Kearse]

There ain't no way around it. Ain't no. Let's not sugarcoat it. He's his third team in three years.

[Mike Thomas]

Mm. Right.

[Jevon Kearse]

It's tough. Cause, you know, you had. You learned the Broncos system, you were there for two years. You go to Pittsburgh, you learn that system, it's harder and harder to keep. I mean, you think about it, it gets harder and harder to learn a system.

[Mike Thomas]

Yeah.

[Jevon Kearse]

Even though. Because look at Baker. Once he got. Look, okay, he went to Carolina, he was in the Rams. Well, we. Everybody knew he wasn't going to stay very long with the Rams. Right. They had Matthew Stafford, but look at him now. He's thriving. But he got. He got great complimentary players around him. He got Mike Evans, he got Chris Godwin, he got a nice running back. They did a great job. Bucky Irving, they did a great job in the draft with the running back position.

[Mike Thomas]

Right.

[Jevon Kearse]

Mike Evans is Mr. Consistency. Chris Godwin went down, but hey, he's back.

[Mike Thomas]

Yeah. That's why I think you're supporting cast matters, huh? That's why I say it all the time.

[Jevon Kearse]

Yeah.

[Mike Thomas]

Listen, for a quarterback, For a quarterback that may be on the decline where he's not the same as he once was. If you're a quarterback and you're not in the position and you need those players around you to make you better when you're not the caliber player anymore to make them actually better, you have to be in the right system.

[Jevon Kearse]

Yeah.

[Mike Thomas]

The right supporting cast and everything will take off. It's hard to hide your weaknesses when those around you ain't that good.

[Jevon Kearse]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mike Thomas]

It's very hard to hide your weaknesses.

[Jevon Kearse]

Yeah. Because I'm gonna make you. I'm gonna make you play to it.

[Mike Thomas]

Hey, yeah, but man, that's what makes.

[Jevon Kearse]

The ego so difficult. Yeah. Because if you take Saquon away, you got two guys outside that can make.

[Mike Thomas]

You pay, you got to deal with. Yeah.

[Jevon Kearse]

So now what, what they do, it's like we just go play zone. Because you can't run the football with what you got behind you. Patrick Mahomes, you can't run the football.

[Mike Thomas]

Right, Right.

[Jevon Kearse]

So now they say, you know what? Hey, Kansas City say, nah, say, quan, we ain't gonna let you do. We ain't gonna let you run us out the building. Right. And her says, okay, I'll throw you out the building.

[Mike Thomas]

Whole list.

[Jevon Kearse]

That's the thing. It's not that complicated. It's really not. You try to take away what the strength is, and if somebody beat you with what this is, okay. You just give them credit. I mean, if I'm Kansas City. You go to the middle of field, say, hey, man, Jalen, congrats, man. Good game.

[Mike Thomas]

You got to live with that.

[Jevon Kearse]

You gotta live with it. Because if Saquon had run everybody else out of the building. He didn't run you out of the building. Jalen hurts, did what he needed to do. He didn't throw for 300 yards, but he was accurate, and he made you pay every time. Ocho. The Patriots signed Stephon Diggs. Three years contract worth up to 69 million. Diggs is 31 years of age, working his way back from a torn acl. Mike Vrabel is all in on Diggs saying, yeah, just trying to make sure we're supporting Drake and supporting the football team. And again, this is a highly competitive company. Receiver that's produced throughout his career in multiple ways. Play and style. Yeah, he's got to play strength to him, and he sees that he can play physical, you know, route craft, good run out the catch, and that's good in the red zone. And there's a play, a play style to him that's always appreciated, and that's what we want to continue to enhance and make sure that he's doing things to help us.

[Mike Thomas]

I like.

[Jevon Kearse]

Are you surprised that he got that length of deal, that kind of deal coming up?

[Mike Thomas]

No, absolutely not. No, because. No, I wasn't surprised because they were in need of a playmaker of this magnitude, even with Stephon Diggs coming off acl. I understand. Raybo understands. Robert Kraft understands. And I tweeted it out. I'm not sure if people in the chat can pull up a tweet that I said right before he even got signed. When he went on the visit, I said something to the likes of one leg, two legs, no legs at all. Make sure he leaves that building with the deal. Not only I'm talking about the competitor that he is and the ability for him to be able to get open and manipulate defenses even if he doesn't have. Even if he doesn't play on the outside, even he plays on the inside. That's a. That's a target that Drake may needs that he can be. He can be relying on during football season. There's enough time from now with him rehabbing because I've already seen some drills with Stephon out there working already, and I'm seeing how far he's come sitting.

[Jevon Kearse]

I saw him squatting, but I was surprised. I thought somebody would make a prove it deal. One year.

[Mike Thomas]

Yeah.

[Jevon Kearse]

You know, one. You know what I'm saying? Don't show one year, $15 million with a chance to make 20, 25 million.

[Mike Thomas]

Right.

[Jevon Kearse]

But who knows? We haven't seen the intricacies of this deal. It might be a one year deal disguised as a three year deal.

[Mike Thomas]

Right.

[Jevon Kearse]

Because we saw T. Higgins deal and basically it's a one year deal.

[Mike Thomas]

Okay. Right. So yeah, I like it though. I like especially.

[Jevon Kearse]

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mike Thomas]

Veteran receiver. Good to me. To me. Some people would probably won't like it. I think a good locker room presence, especially for the receivers for Drake May being able to converse and learn from Diggs on some of the things when it comes to the route running and processing information, understanding what he sees and what he may see and how things. No.

[Jevon Kearse]

Yeah. Back to the atv. Rodney Rogers got paralyzed. You remember Rodney Rogers, the Wake Forest great, talented player. Denver Nuggets, he got pair. I think he was in Phoenix at the time, but he ended up getting paralyzed on one. He was a hell of a player, Ocho. Rodney Rodgers left handed with the Wake Forest. He might have been player of the year in the acc. Look that up, Ash. He was a Ocho, I'm talking about. I mean he was, I'm talking about. He was built like a football player. Y'all remember Rodney Rodgers?

[Mike Thomas]

Well, he looked hard. He looked like Larry Johnson, basically.

[Jevon Kearse]

Oh, he was thinking. He was. Oh no, Ocho, I'm talking about grandma. I'm talking about Grandmama Tackle.

[Mike Thomas]

He was that big.

[Jevon Kearse]

Yes. He was ACC player of the year, Ocho. When the acc, when the Carolinas and they were loaded back then. Yeah, yeah, he was. There was another one guy, Williams, the boxer. He ended up Paul Williams.

[Mike Thomas]

Yeah, Paul told about Paul throw about 2, 000 punches around. Man. Paul was enjoying the watch.

[Jevon Kearse]

Paul, he was cute. He was a big ass welterweight.

[Mike Thomas]

Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

[Jevon Kearse]

Big, big, big, big.

[Mike Thomas]

Hey, yeah. I like, I like.

[Jevon Kearse]

And I just, I just wish, I wish the guy's like, yeah, you, Yeah, I just, just, just. Guys just be careful. That's all I'm saying, Ocho. Because I don't want to see guys mess up their careers. Look, have fun. I. My mindset was just different once I got that money. I said, you know what? I'm gonna make this money as long as I can now once my career is over. Cause your career gonna be over in the mid-30s anyway. Yeah, I can hop on a motorcycle or dirt biker, but I ain't fit to mess no money up, right?

[Mike Thomas]

None.

[Jevon Kearse]

I ain't gonna give no like you say, you ain't giving none of it back. I ain't giving none of it back. Cause, you know, look, basketball players, baseball players, no matter what happened, that money guaranteed. We ain't got no guaranteed money on, yo.

[Mike Thomas]

Yeah.

[Jevon Kearse]

Hey, Juan Soto. 760 million, 750 guaranteed.

[Mike Thomas]

Yeah.

[Jevon Kearse]

Show hate. Garo T, Mookie.

[Mike Thomas]

Yeah, but everybody, everybody, hey, everybody don't want to live like that, huh, man? Okay. Everybody's not gonna have that mindset. You know, people want to be. When people want to be free, people want to enjoy themselves, you know, without, without thinking of the negatives of, of what could happen or what if this happens. They just, they just want to enjoy themselves. Especially, you know, at this age, the young, especially in this era we in now, it's just different. There's so many things to do, so many things you can enjoy, you know, But I, I. Listen, I totally agree with you. I understand. But I, I'd rather than be safe and free or doing things, you know, confined in areas that they shouldn't be doing.

[Jevon Kearse]

Hey, well, if you feel, if you feel that way, like I say, bless their heart. The Volume.

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