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Joe Johnson
Appreciate you.
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Ocho (Chad Johnson)
All. Listen, listen. What that mean?
Unc (Uncle)
What.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
What that mean? That's your fault for being 60, you know, place him.
Unc (Uncle)
Now he want to get out there, run and play flag football.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Who listen? No, no, no, no, no, no. I need to do activities that I'm familiar with. Y' all did stuff for old people. I'm not old. Y' all did old people.
Unc (Uncle)
Why you do all that talking to you? You should have just kept your mouth closed.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
No, I mean, listen. They edited to make y' all look good.
Joe Johnson
Ocho, Ocho, Ocho. Just fess up, man. Just say, look, man. Joe, you was a bad mofo that day, Unc. Did I?
Unc (Uncle)
That's just how you was slow, bro.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Yo, Joe, listen to me. Joe, listen to me. A squirrel, even a clock is right two times a day. Joe.
Unc (Uncle)
Hello. Well, you clearly. You got a clock. Cause you wouldn't write no time that day. So just. Just so you know.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
I tell you. I tell you what. Now next time we go and we.
Unc (Uncle)
Do something, yo, you gonna get your ass tore up again.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Hey, hey, Joe. I was respecting my elders. Now my elders talking trash.
Unc (Uncle)
Hey, listen, now I got.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Now I got to open up a can.
Joe Johnson
I'm gonna keep it real with y'.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
All.
Joe Johnson
I felt like I should have won. I should have. I should have won the. I felt like I should have won the cornhole, and I should have won the golf. I just. You know, how.
Unc (Uncle)
So in other words, you. You should have won sweepstakes at the lawn club.
Joe Johnson
Hey, I was trying to sweep it. I ain't gonna lie to you. I'm trying to sleep with you more.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
I like. I like the fact that, Joe, you have confidence in these. In these other crafts that you do outside of basketball. But I got something for y', all, Unc. I was trying to respect my elders and be respective of you and the fact that you're handicapped.
Unc (Uncle)
Don't worry about it.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
But I see, I didn't bring the.
Unc (Uncle)
Placard that day, so you didn't know I was handicapped. I put belt ass. I was in a wheelchair. I was rolling around.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Don't worry about it. I got. I got. I got you. I got you.
Joe Johnson
Hey, you got. Hey, y' all gotta look on the bright side, though. Think about this. See, y' all playing against me the best. So when we play against these other podcasters, y', all, y' all gonna put BTA to them.
Unc (Uncle)
You feel me?
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Hold on, hold on, hold on. We. We playing against who the. The best? Who?
Joe Johnson
Come on, come on, Ocho. You see my work? You seen my work? O. Joe.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Hey, hey, Joe. That was a small sample size, Joe. And you just happened to win that day.
Joe Johnson
Wait, okay. Wait till the next episode, you think?
Unc (Uncle)
There you go. There he goes. See what I'm saying? Don't you see what you started?
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Hey, hey. All right.
Unc (Uncle)
See what you started, Ocho?
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
All right.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Unc (Uncle)
I wasn't even talking that much. Oh. Oh, I'm about to blow you.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Oh.
Unc (Uncle)
I know you boys don't know how to play no golf. I know you guys can't put. Oh, you got too much. Ocho, you ain't never been on the golf course in your life.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, I. I never. I ain't never been on the golf course.
Unc (Uncle)
We could tell what I do.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
That's not what I do. So, I mean, listen, he got that. I'm gonna. I'm gonna let him have that.
Unc (Uncle)
And you tried to cheat. Oh, Joe. Did we not say sudden death? In sudden death, you play a hole. If somebody holds out, it's over. You don't get well. I got three more shots. No, you don't.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
It's all good.
Unc (Uncle)
I just walked that thing like Tiger Woods. Hey, hey.
Joe Johnson
I know what I know. I know what I'm up against now, though. I see what's going on.
Unc (Uncle)
I'm good.
Joe Johnson
I'm good.
Unc (Uncle)
He never could be on a palm tree. Oh, on a palm tree. Pull that thing out.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Hey, hey, hey, hey, Joe. I was chilling. I was chilling. I ain't even have on clothes to actually do activities. I would dress to go to dinner. So that's how you do taking it serious. Hey, dinner.
Joe Johnson
I gave you a compliment on that jacket, too. With that jacket with 5,900 N. That.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
That about 12,000.
Unc (Uncle)
Damn. Hold on.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, yeah.
Unc (Uncle)
That jacket was how much?
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
About 12.
Unc (Uncle)
And you owe me double that. See what I'm saying, Joe? You see what I'm saying, Joe? And they talking about, man, you need to go E on oo. No, I'mma find Ozo. I'mma find that Zo. Say, I'mma bring him on the show. That one that had all that me, I'm gonna break him on the show. Yeah. Yeah.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Hey, hey, Joe. Hey, Joe, He. He could bring all. Oh, you could bring. Oh, yeah, bring him. Bring him, too. Cause he. He. Listen, you gotta understand, that's 1991. I done surpass him three times over. So I ain't worried. I ain't worried about you bringing him on.
Unc (Uncle)
You know how they do. They get one up on us. Oh, yeah. You know, I took Ocho girl. You remember? Yeah, the one.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Unc (Uncle)
High school. Yeah.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, right.
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Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Huh? Hey, hey, Joe, can I tell you something?
Joe Johnson
Joe, go ahead, go ahead.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
That was 4,276 girls.
Unc (Uncle)
You up there with Will?
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Huh?
Unc (Uncle)
You up there with Will?
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
I taught Will every. Hey, I told Will everything.
Unc (Uncle)
But here's the thing. This is what we do know. We still remember that one that got. Took 50 girls, 30 girls ago. I tripped. 20,000.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
That's fine. Let me say.
Unc (Uncle)
Give me my money.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Hey, hold on. If you take something from me, then you're doing me a favor, because that's one less expense.
Unc (Uncle)
There you go.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
I got. Hey, Uncle, I told you, I'mma pay you at the show. I'mma pay you at the show. At the last, I'm. I'mma bring 5,900 in cash. And that's how you gonna.
Unc (Uncle)
You know what? That's perfect, because the Mississippi Mass Choir was going to be there. They can sing at your funeral if you don't have me my money. That's exactly what they can do.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Hey, why you. Why y' all ain't tell me the news?
Unc (Uncle)
I wasn't supposed to tell you, but anyway, you know what? They might pull out. Now. They say until you pay Uncle's money, they ain't singing a thing.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Yeah. Hey, Joe, listen, I'm. Hey, Joe, I'm singing with the Mississippi Mass Choir, which has always been a dream of mine. You know, they wanted. They wanted me to sing with them when I was younger, you know, back in. Back in my early days. And Joe. Hey, uncle, listen to me. When I used to do matures on.
Joe Johnson
On Saturdays, Yeah.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
My grandma, she would either have Mahalia Jackson playing either Reverend James Cleveland or the Mississippi Mass Choir. So I always been a fan of them. So I used to be through the house, you know, mopping, cleaning the grass with my cassette player, listen to the Mississippi Mass Choir. So, Joe, I get to live out my childhood dream at the show on Thursday. What?
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, hey.
Unc (Uncle)
You know.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Hey, Joe, you know I can sing, huh?
Joe Johnson
No, I ain't know that.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, Joe, I was on American Idol.
Joe Johnson
You was in hold on. But was you in the choir when you was younger?
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Yes.
Unc (Uncle)
Used to wear the. You had.
Joe Johnson
You had to wear the robe and everything.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, Joe, I used to lead. Yeah, I used to lead the junior. I led the junior choir. Joe.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. What, you a soprano all told? What are you?
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
I'm all soprano.
Unc (Uncle)
They call him Francis Scott off key. Who You.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Hey, Joe. Listen to me. Joe. Nah. On a hill far away Stood in old rugged cross yeah. Hey, Joe, I can go. Joe. Hey, Joe. I can go now.
Joe Johnson
Okay, man.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, I'm like that. I'm like that, Joe.
Unc (Uncle)
Okay.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
I'm excited. Hey, I appreciate that. Matter of fact, everybody from the Nightcap team, if you can hear me, I love you. I. I love you. And. And then. You don't know. You don't understand what this means to me, man. You don't. I wish my grandma. Mama, we here could see this, man. Boy. Hey, Joe. Hey. I'm for the cut up, Joe.
Joe Johnson
You finna act a fool.
Unc (Uncle)
You don't have any, man.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Listen, I'm gonna drink some hot tea. Hey, some hot peppermint tea, Joe.
Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah, boy.
Unc (Uncle)
Oh, Lord have mercy. Hey.
Joe Johnson
Hey. It's been three years now, bro. I think you probably can charge that 5,900 to the game, but the boy had a cold.
Unc (Uncle)
Yeah, you saw that.
Joe Johnson
We were hanging out.
Unc (Uncle)
You and I showed up. You and I showed up to compete. You see what I'm saying? We. We know the ones that ain't show up to compete. Them the one that have the freshest joy. J's on shirt. T shirts ain't gonna do nothing. Go. And don't get off the bench.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Unc (Uncle)
Don't. Don't leave the. The dude that got the highest ver ain't left the yet, right? See this?
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
This what I didn't understand. This what I understand. I had prepared myself, right? I didn't know it was gonna be like that. I ain't know. Y' all was. Y' all was coming and really gonna, like, really be into it. So now that I understand how it's gonna go from this point on, just know next time I'm coming in sweats in my shoes, tied up, no glasses, no jacket, just ready to go.
Commercial Voice
Okay?
Unc (Uncle)
It don't matter, okay? You're not winning nothing.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
It matter. It. Oh, it definitely matter. It definitely matter. And I would like to know what we do.
Unc (Uncle)
No, no. That's the whole point. Did nobody know what we were doing ahead of time?
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Yeah. Okay. Well, that's why I was dressed.
Unc (Uncle)
Didn't Tell me you knew.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Don't do that.
Unc (Uncle)
I didn't.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
You knew. You knew. Put. Put that on my grandma.
Unc (Uncle)
Had I known, first of all, she wasn't gonna tell because she want me to. She loves it best. Would I lose?
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Yeah. Well, you go. You go. You're gonna lose. Don't worry about that. Hey, make sure y' all edit it so I.
Unc (Uncle)
No, we're gonna make you look just.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
What?
Unc (Uncle)
Like you are good and terrible.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Nah. No, don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do me like that. Hey. God damn.
Unc (Uncle)
Got mad Ocho. See, Ash didn't realize she ain't really look in the backyard that good that I got a cornhole set up.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
See?
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
See what I mean? See? See? Hey, Joe. See how you taking advantage of this?
Unc (Uncle)
And sometimes when the dog's out there messing around, I go throw a couple of bags, you know, See? Get. But, you know, get my toss right. You see, I was flying that thing over that joke.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
It's all good.
Unc (Uncle)
All right. Let's get into it. Tom Brady joined the course of voices living that coach Billy Belichick was snubbed from being a Pro Football hall of Fame. Said the voting committee decision is completely ridiculous. The quarterback coach combination Brady and Belichick famously teamed to lead the Patriots to six super bowl victories, nine conference championships. Multiple sources spoke with Belichick over the weekend, described him as puzzled and. And disappointed by his inability to secure support of at least 80% of the hall committee. Oo, we saw how the hall did to. But could you have ever imagined them doing this to coach Bill Belichick?
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
I mean, listen, it's get back for them. It's get back for them. For all the press conferences. Bill really being one that really doesn't disclose much. He doesn't give you much during. During those interviews. And this is what happened when you got people in positions of power that are able to control the narrative and control who gets in.
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Unc (Uncle)
Hey, Sal.
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Unc (Uncle)
What's going on?
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Unc (Uncle)
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Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Who doesn't? They did it to Tara Owens. So them being able to do it to Bill Belichick, who doesn't sit right with a lot of people that are in those positions of power to control who gets it in and who doesn't. I mean, it was shocking to me, but I kind of understand it because this is what happened. When you have ego and pride and people who can control certain narratives when it comes to certain people. Oh, hey, honestly, it's. It's. It's effing ridiculous. It's effing ridiculous. There politics is. Listen, as prestigious as it is to be able to get into the hall of Fame and. And what it means, I mean, this kind of lessens the value of actually getting in based on accolades and resume it.
Joe Johnson
It lessens it because what's the criteria to get in the hall? Obviously, he meets all that when he comes to acting.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
He exceeds it beyond meets it.
Unc (Uncle)
Right.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous.
Unc (Uncle)
A lot of what you said had a lot of truth to it. We saw a situation a couple of days ago with the Tracy Morgan situation. He got treated bad one way, one when he was younger. Now he's in a position that he can actually help somebody. He's like, nah, I remember you. You bullied. I remember you.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Come on now.
Unc (Uncle)
Now, same thing. The people that coach Belichick wrong way back when, when they tried to talk and he was smug and short. Now, listen, two things can be true.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Yes, sir.
Unc (Uncle)
They got to get back.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
Unc (Uncle)
Chuck. Vince Lombardi. Coach Lombardi. Coach Chuck. No, Coach Tom Landry, Coach Don Shuler. The four coaches that's entered the hall and on their first. On the first try, they're the four first ballot coaches that go into the hall of Fame. Coach Belichick has more Super Bowls than any of those. He has more victories other than Kula. He has more playoff wins, probably more than all of them combined. More division titles. He's a. He's a. There's no doubt. There's no doubt. But I'm just trying to figure out where was the uproar when to didn't go in. They listen, chat and I. This is not. And I'm just not a white or black thing. I'M telling you, a right and a wrong thing. What they did to to was so egregious, they changed the rules to keep him out on the first ballot. They didn't change no rules. These are the same applicable rules that every member that's been voted on to go into the hall when they, when they said no matter what a person does off the field, you can't, you can't use that to keep him out the Hall. Only what he did on the field when it came time to to they changed the bylaws. What you did on the sidelines could be used against you. What you did in the facility could be used against you. Because they had nothing on him off the field. T.O. has never been in trouble. He's never run a file with the law. He's never having his name be mentioned for any impropriety to. He led the 49ers in reception receiving. He led the Eagles in receiving. He led the Cowboys in receiving. He led the Bills in receiving. He, he led the Bengals in receiving. There are three men in the history of the NFL that's been a first team all pro with three different teams. One of them is one PrimeTime Deion Sanders, first ballot hall of Famer. The other is Ted the Stork Hendricks. Hendrickson. He. And one Terrell Owens. He's one of three men with 150 receiving touchdowns in the history of the game. Now, we don't know the hall of Fame doesn't have so now the hall of Fame doesn't have any merit. When you kept. There have been so many guys that should have been a first ballot and you kept them out. I'm. Yes. What they did to Coach Belichick is egregious and he should have been a first ballot hall of Famer. But so, so should have to. So if you didn't want to change the rules and say no. What they did to to was wrong, you now all of a sudden whoever didn't vote for Coach Belichick, it needs to be made public when there's never ever been a cry to make the votes public. Why not?
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, obviously because, because it's Coach Bellich. Because it's Coach Belichick and it's egregious. Just as egregious as him not letting to win. And this is one, one of the things as, as, as much as the hall of Fame means there so many, you know and I, I, I, I just for, for me un. You know how I am. I and Joe, you know me as much as we've known each other, un. You know me extremely well. And those who know me personally know I'm. I'm one that had never needed validation. I'm. I'm one that conducted myself in a way where I felt if I can't be authentic to myself and I still be accepted in whatever it may be, I don't really care.
Unc (Uncle)
Yeah.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
You know, so Joe and Unc, you got to think when I put that hall of fame jacket on myself, you know, that was not an approval of any and everybody, even coach Lewis, a joke came to me after the game and said, you know what? That's not going to sit right with a whole lot of people, especially those voters. And I told coach Lewis after the game, I say, coach Lou, when I put that jacket on, that was to let you know and everybody else know, I don't need your validation. At that moment after that touchdown and I crossed that 10,000 yard mark. That 10,000 yard mark.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
I felt I was hall of fame worthy and I don't need. Which they probably wouldn't because I was always. I was always the problem child. Joe. I enjoyed that. I enjoyed that. That perception that I had of. Of enjoyment and having fun in my way and not conforming to what they felt I should have been like. No, at that moment I thought I was hall of fame worthy. Right. That's why I put the goddamn jacket on.
Unc (Uncle)
I'm gonna trip you out now. Now this is what they said, that Spygate and deflate gate might have had a. Might have had some bearing or some weight to it to keep coach Village out. I don't know if you know this, but I was a criminal justice major. Do you guys know what fruit of the poisonous tree is? So the way you, the way they. They do this. If you said coach Belichick got these super bowls and these victories through ill got means, who benefited from those ill gotten means? There's a guy coming up for the pro football hall of fame. They say he the goat.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Yes, sir.
Unc (Uncle)
It's gonna be very interesting. Who would have been a beneficiary of Spygate? Who would have been a beneficiary of Deflate gate number 12? Are you gonna keep Tom Brady out? You're not. So why would you keep coach Belichick out?
Joe Johnson
Hey, I got a question, Uncle Ocho.
Unc (Uncle)
Who, who.
Joe Johnson
Who does the voting? Are these ex players?
Unc (Uncle)
They do. They do have. They do have, I think like three or four players that do vote. But none of the almost 400 most is 4 is 50 men and women the mere fact that some, like sometimes Joe, the way it does is that you have a writer from your city, from your team, and he makes an argument. When they went up to do Dan Marino, they said Dan Marino and they slapped back down. When they did Peyton Manning, to say Peyton Manning and he sat back down, you don't even have to make a case. That should have been hot. Should have been for Coach Belichick. You already know his resume. The second most wins, the most playoff wins, night 17, 18 division titles, six Super Bowls, and as a head coach, two as a defensive coordinator. His game plan is in the hall of Fame. When he shut down the K gun in Super Bowl, I think it was Super Bowl 20. So there shouldn't have had it. There shouldn't be. There shouldn't have to. You shouldn't have to build a case because his plane is right there. You know what the man did? This is not no 1960. And I'm not saying you. You. I'm not trying to discredit anybody, but this is the modern era. Anything that happened the super bowl demand. So in the last 25 years, have we ever seen a streak of domination in the NFL in the history of the game? No. So it's going to be very. The same 50 men and women that y' all said Spygate and Deflate Gate weighed into winning. Well, who benefited? So that means nobody that played on those teams during those Spygate and Deflategate can go in the hall of Fame on the first ballot. By your argument, I'm just using what you said because y' all use that. And then all of a sudden, now don't nobody know. Bill Poland say he can't remember. If they just had to vote last week.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Ocho, man, you know, they got. You know, they remember. Joe, this ain't no 15, 20 years.
Unc (Uncle)
I can see if it was 15, 20 years ago, man, I can't remember. Man, there's so many guys. Because we voting. They got 120 guys, and we got to will it down to 75. We got to take it down to 50. We got to take it down To 25, and then we get it all the way down to 10, and then we got a. A senior committee. So I can't remember all that over 15 years old.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Joe, man, they remember. They. They remember. Hey, Joe. They pick and choose when they want to move the goal. They do, depending on who it is. And this is. This was a. Okay, now we got you. Now we gonna get you back for what you.
Unc (Uncle)
Yes, yes. And that's what I try to tell players, oo, yes. That is exactly how it works. Because at the end of the day, oh, you got to realize, I understand you're supposed to take that out of it, but that's a human being. They got feelings. You can't give somebody your ass to kiss and then expect them to do you a solid, even though that's what the. That's what their job requires. But they're human at the end of the day. Joe.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
Unc (Uncle)
Everybody knows Coach Belichick should have been a first ballot hall of Fame, because if. If he's not, well, who's this? I said the same thing with To. I said, if Tio is not a first ballot hall of Fame receiver, I don't know who is. I don't. I really don't. And I used to think I knew what a Hall of Famer was, having played in the game, having played against a lot of the guys that went in, because basically anybody that went in, say, 90, 95 on, I probably played against them or saw them up close and personal. So I know. Yeah. And plus, Ocho, you know, we go in there, we break down meeting, we know the good player.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
Unc (Uncle)
Now what. What the media says and all the fan bases get all excited about. All I know is that when we took that guy off that tape, he wasn't one of the guys. We circle. I'm gonna leave it at that. So we know for them to do that to Coach Belichick, it's egregious. But I believe two things can be true. Go ahead, Ocho.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Yeah. Hey, Joe, that's. That's some bull crap, man. I just. I hate when people are in positions of power, and I. I never would. I. I would love for players that. That are always asking to get in. I know they would love to be honored, but I hate the fact that some. Some of them, they beg and. And they hulk and they. And they. And they. They try so bad to want to be a part of something because of what it entails.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
You know, and in needing the validation, just because you don't wear that gold jacket don't mean you weren't that boy on the field.
Joe Johnson
Right.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
You still. Based on resume and accolades, when you turn that film on, it's still there. The numbers you put up, the stuff that you've done during your career is still there.
Joe Johnson
Absolutely.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
It ain't going nowhere. And I just. I would never, ever give anybody, not just the hall of Fame in general, never give anybody the satisfaction of knowing they got that over me and being Able to control in how I feel.
Unc (Uncle)
Is a situation also. Mr. Kraft, what the hell we waiting on? Tell me an owner. And I get it. Some of these old owners. Robert. Mr. Model. Art model. I won't, I won't. I won't disrespect him, but I call him mister. I call him Art. All right. Look at what he did. You got Monday Night Football. He was the reason why the benefits, the union. He's the reason why. But because he moved his team from Cleveland to Baltimore because they, the. The city, they wouldn't. They wouldn't get play for the upgrades to the stadium. He's the only owner there have been. The Raiders go back and forth. Hell, the Raiders was moving like they had a mobile home. Hook up the truck and just move it up and down. They go to Oakland and back to la. They go to la, they back to Oakland, back and forth. Never had to lead the colors. The Rams, y' all do like the Cardinals. Y' all do realize the Cardinals used to be in St. Louis? Ocho. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they moved. They didn't have to leave the colors. The Rams, The Rams originally started out. They weren't in. They were in California. Then they moved to Anaheim. Then they moved to St. Louis, moved them back. They never left the colors. The Colts, Mr. Ursay. Bob Ursay, moved him in the middle of the night in 1984. Like a thief of the night. Loaded up the Mayflower bands and. And moved him. And he never left color or record. The Tech, the Tennessee Titans, they used to be the Houston Oilers. They went to Nashville first. Excuse me. Yeah, they went to Memphis. Was it Memphis? I think they went to Memphis first, but anyway. And then they went to Nashville and never have to leave a color or record. Art Model is the only owner in NFL history that has moved and was required to leave the colors and the records in Cleveland. And they still won't put him in. Mr. Kraft, what more can you do? How much more can you win? Because they put a lot of owners in before him. That's one less than him, and he's been in after them.
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Unc (Uncle)
Get me started. Don't get me started. I'm good. Now I can speak my mind. See, I used to hold back because I was really trying to get my brother because I know they gonna use what I said against him. But now he is now gonna let y' all know how I really feel. Hey, cut your wrong you. The way you did Tio, was absolutely wrong. The way you did Bill Belichick was wrong, you dead ass. The way you've done Mr. Kraft and the way you've done art model is wrong and you know it.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, they making them pay, boy.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
How much more they got that power, Joe.
Unc (Uncle)
How much more can I pay? I don't know.
Joe Johnson
But, hey, it's obvious. It's obvious because, you know, his accolades meets the requirements. I mean, he. Obviously, we all know that Bill Belichick is the first ballot, you know, maybe due to the. The flake gate, all the shenanigans that is. That has transpired with the Patriots obviously didn't rub them people away, man.
Unc (Uncle)
It has. It has, Joe. But you know what? But I. I think the thing. Look, Coach Belichick did not make it on any reporter to do their job. He didn't make it easy. He didn't. No, we. I think we could be true. He wasn't the easiest person to do your job, but he's more than worthy of being a first ballot hall of fame. Two things can be true, no question. And they are in this situation. But I don't believe now because it's egregious on the level of to that all of a sudden voters should have to reveal themselves. So now, I guess. Let me see now. Ocho. So if we start doing this, I guess everybody that voted for a candidate, that my candidate didn't win, I want to know everybody that voted for the other candidate. Now. I need to see names.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
Unc (Uncle)
You see how ridiculous that sounds?
Joe Johnson
Do that.
Unc (Uncle)
That's the whole point of the voting booth. That's why you go into Ocho, you pull the curtain, because don't nobody supposed to see who you voted for or no. If you want to tell, who knows? I don't know if I believe. You're not. Cause you lie. People lie so much now. I don't know if I believe.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
Unc (Uncle)
Oh, I would never vote for him. Check. I wouldn't vote for her either. Check. I'm so. I'm just saying. Don't you. I'm just saying. But in this situation, yeah, everybody knows Coach Belichick. It like, Coach Belichick, it hurts him. See, like when your name came up. Like when. The first time my name came up in 2009, I was one of the one, I think, 125. I got. Got whittled down, and then I made the final 10. Made it to, like, the final 10, final 10. Made it to, like, the room or like the five. Because back then, Ocho, the. The coaches and. And. And owners went in like players. They've since changed that. They since changed that because the owner and a contributor, they're two different things. Ocho, they didn't. They. They ain't on no damn field. So how you go in as the. As the equivalent of a player that actually played the game? So they changed that. And I agreed that the next year I come back, Ocho, I got less votes the second year than I did the first year. I said. I said, you know what? If I didn't get in, I said, if you didn't like my stats this year, you don't hate them next year because they're not going to get any better. And the guy that's coming behind me going to have better stats.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
Unc (Uncle)
I said, I can't add to it. I said, I wish I can go back and get me another 50 catches, maybe another, you know, seven, eight touchdowns on Joe and go to a Super Bowl.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Unc (Uncle)
But there ain't nothing I can do. All I can do is just go back. Go back and look at my body of work and don't compare me. Don't compare me against Ozzy and Kellen and John Mackey and Mike Dicker. Look at everybody. Tight ends that played in the 90 and look how far ahead I was than them. And I played in a running scheme.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Yes, sir.
Unc (Uncle)
So that I say, judge me by the 90s. Don't judge me by what Kellen and Ozzy and Dicker and Mackie and Christensen and all those guys, Dave Casper. Because that's unfair. That's unfair to them. That's unfair to me. I Said, but my resume speaks for itself. Go ask the defensive coordinators that had the game playing me and ask them what they thought of me.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Oh, boy, there you go.
Unc (Uncle)
Yeah, ask Floyd Peters. Ask Gunther Cunningham. Yeah, as Coach Cower. As Coach Belichick, ask them what they thought of me. Y' all see, sometimes. Oh, sometimes the antics can overshadow the play. And you know, look, you know me, I'm having fun. Call the National Guard. I'm talking crazy to a lot of people.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Oh, yeah.
Unc (Uncle)
But all I know, my team's one. Period.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
See, that's not fair, man.
Unc (Uncle)
What? Hey, Joe, what's that?
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
His team's won, but mine was losing.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, Ojo, you gotta play the car.
Unc (Uncle)
That's it.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, Joe, I play. I play one hell of a hand, too, Joe. You hear me? I played one hell of a hand, too.
Unc (Uncle)
Yes.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Unc (Uncle)
Look, they didn't say I couldn't have. We couldn't have fun while we're playing our job with the cat block, help our team win. Get the ball in the end zone.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
Unc (Uncle)
Look, in Cincinnati, you didn't have the best. You wasn't the best setup. I don't know if it was the most conducive for winning.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, I like it, though. I enjoyed it.
Unc (Uncle)
Understand, that's the hand.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
You look here.
Unc (Uncle)
If we play in spades. Some people, Joe, we play spades. If you don't get any space, you throw the hand in. Some people play. If you get face cards, you got to play the hand even if you don't have space. We. Well, oo. You had face cards, you didn't have space, but you had to play that damn hand and you played it well. You got a couple of books out of it. You got six Pro Bowls, you got All Pros. Yeah.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Come on, now.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Unc (Uncle)
Yeah. A lot of a win. Look here, the only. I've never heard. Tell me the time. You've seen a receiver, he has the most comeback wins. The only winning that matters is quarterbacks. That's why they have how many wins. Tom Brady have how many wins? Peyton Manning have how many wins? Patrick Mahomes, how many come from behind wins? They don't put that on anybody else. They don't get that title to coaches. They don't give it to tight ends, wide receivers, defensive, nothing. So only winning is tied to the quarterback. That's the only one that winnings matter to. That's what they tell you. That's what they tell you when they want to get said guy in. Now they want to Keep you out. They dead ass wrong. They know it. Coach Belichick should have been a first ballot hall of Famer.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Absolutely.
Unc (Uncle)
I like Coach Belichick. When he's not in Coach Belichick mode, he's a really great guy to be around. I went to the Pro bowl with him and had a conversation. Sitting at the bar, talking, having a drink. I wasn't drinking at the time. I was drinking virgin strawberry daiquiri, probably about 7,000 calories. But you know, we at the bar having a good old time. I was working with CBS at the time and I think it might have been. Who was the coach. I trying to think who the coach was. I can't even remember who the damn coach was now. I mean, I know Coach Belichick was one. Was the coach. I'm trying to think who the quarterbacks were. I can't remember. But when you get Coach Belichick away when he's not in New England and he's not in that, that Focus Moto show, he's great to be around. And everybody that's ever been around, every player will tell you he's great to be around. But when he's in that mode, he's all business different. He's different. It's just like the quarterbacks. Peyton, Peyton Payton opened up a little bit, but when he get away from football, he just there to have a good time.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Yeah. Yeah.
Unc (Uncle)
All the way down. Yeah. And it's long. Yeah. Oh yeah.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Yeah. And the funny thing about it is, is this what I like. I mean, Joe and uncle, I tell you this all the time. I would love for players to stop being so PC and be themselves in front of cameras. But most of the time, depending on who you are, especially the face of the team, you have to conduct yourself a certain way. I am so happy, Joe, that I was able to not only play with Tom, but see Tom outside when that yeah. Is not rolling. I'm so happy I was able to see Peyton Manning at the Pro bowl outside when that camera not rolling. That goddamn Bill Belichick, who I worked with all last year on Inside the NFL. I was glad to see that bill outside of the. The Bill that everyone sees in front of that goddamn camera. Man. They ain't nothing like that in real life.
Joe Johnson
He seen, he seemed a little more open on, on the NFL.
Unc (Uncle)
He's more open to that at the bar.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Joe. They nothing like that in real life. And you would have to know them personally. And it almost, it almost to them. It, it, it does them almost a disservice where the rest of the world can't see how really dope they are. Because they have to be one way. When the camera's. I'm sorry, when the camera.
Unc (Uncle)
They have to be so. They have to be so buttoned up because everybody's trying to get that got you moment with one of those guys.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
Unc (Uncle)
Peyton, Tom, all these guys, they're really, really buttoned up when the cameras are around. But when they're just hanging out with friends and buddies or being somewhere. Hey, funny, normal. That's Tom Brady.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, funny.
Joe Johnson
I was when I played in Phoenix and we had the two time mvp, Steve Nash. Y' all know he used to go out with us. Uncle Ocho, he used to hang out with us. Amari Quinn, Richardson.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Ash. He would be with us in the spot.
Unc (Uncle)
Yes.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Good old time.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
And you know, Joe, I know Steve a little bit. You know, I play. I play soccer with.
Unc (Uncle)
All the time.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, I play. I play soccer with Steve all the time.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Hey.
Unc (Uncle)
Hey.
Joe Johnson
He used to. He liked playing hockey too. We came to practice one day, you know.
Unc (Uncle)
Yeah. You know hockey and basketball, it's the national pastime, man.
Joe Johnson
Listen, Ocho, we came in, that man had on skates. He was out there on that ice. You should have seen coach went crazy, man.
Unc (Uncle)
What is you out here doing?
Joe Johnson
That man know what he doing, though. Hey, that boy. That boy be moving on that ice, man.
Unc (Uncle)
Yeah, yeah.
Joe Johnson
Different dude.
Unc (Uncle)
It's. It's embarrassing. It really is. I still think the hall of Fame is prestigious. It's the. It's the heaven for the individual sport that you play. Basketball, football, baseball. It's kind of. I guess it's kind of like going into the. If you're a musician, the Rock and Roll hall of Fame in Cleveland. Ocho, if you professional bull rider, I think that's in Colorado Springs issue a football, it's your football heaven. It's your football mecca. I remember my grandmother, when I called my grandmother, when I finally got the call in 2011, I called my grandma. I said, hey, Granny. She said, hey. I said, granny, I'm going to the hall of Fame. I never forget. She said, what's that, baby? I say. I said, granny, that's where all the good players go. She said, that sure is good, son. That sure good. I sure hope I'm around to see it. Because at that time she had gotten really, really sick. So this was in January. This was in January, beginning of February. She passed in July. So she didn't actually. She didn't actually, you know, What I'm saying. But she realized my grandmother knew she could not see that ceremony physically. She had to leave this place physically and go with me there spiritually, because in that body wasn't going to take her. And so to hear like, oh, that showed that show good. She would always have my sister living. Find that boy on tv. My sister put the TV on because, you know, back then we were really good. So the Broncos always came on in that late window for.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Unc (Uncle)
NBC. NBC. NBC. So we always came on the late window. It is a huge honor. It is. It is a huge honor. But there has been some damage done by some players that didn't get in, that should have gotten in. And even if. No matter what you think about TO and TO should have been a first ballot, but then you skip him again on the 2nd just to prove a point and make the guy going on the third ballot, no matter what you think you see, I think T.O. is one of the three greatest receivers to ever play. I think if Jerry, now you can flip. I think you can flip to and Randy. I think it's universal regarding Jerry. Is it? Jerry's it for me. Jerry's it. Some people like Randy, but I think you could say. But even if. Even if you're not like Ocho and I, Tio is not getting out of the top 5 of receivers to ever play this game. He's just not.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Absolutely not.
Unc (Uncle)
So with that being said, if that's not first ballot, I don't know what is. I don't.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
Unc (Uncle)
Hey, I don't think D.T. i don't think. Did D.T. go in on the first ballot? I don't think D.T. went in on the first ballot. Come on, bro. Hey, did anybody. Did anybody watch DT from 1989 to 1999? Did anybody watch those 11 years? I got to see it up close and personal from 90 to 99.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Man. They got your boy. They got me a nominee this year.
Unc (Uncle)
Think about oo. Yeah. DT had to go five times.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Before he got in.
Unc (Uncle)
Now, damn, Anybody that played, anybody that played against dt, ask him. Yeah, that first step, they need to stop. But see, this is what you get. Because you know what happens, Ocho? Once. Once you let them. Once they get away with keeping certain people out, they feel like that's a lot of power, Ocho. Yeah, that's a lot of power, Joe.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Hey, you know how you take. You know how you take your power back? Hey, Joe, you know how you take.
Joe Johnson
Your power, how you take it back?
Unc (Uncle)
You create your own say effort.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
You create. You Create your own shoot. Hey, I got. I got me a 14 karat gold. Yeah, Joe, you create. You create your own bus, you create your own jacket. What y' all talking about? Oh, man, what you going to get?
Joe Johnson
That's crazy, man.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Hey, hold on. Let me show. Let me show you mine. Hold on.
Unc (Uncle)
I don't know who gonna get this? The kids. I might have to have the kids sell this. Cause, boy, look here. They're only one of them, Joe. The only one. You know, I gotta keep the whole part there. I gotta keep that part. They got the way yours. What? You got that.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Hold on. Hey, hey. It's in the showcase too. It's too heavy to bring out. I got a 14 karat gold bus like that. But it's in the showcase. I can't carry the whole thing.
Joe Johnson
Do you really, Ocho?
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Yeah. Well, I don't. Hey, Joe, I don't play. I'm not. I'm not. Listen, them people ain't letting me in, so I had to go make my own. No, you laughing. Why you laughing? I'm join my plan. I'm 14 karat gold bus. When they do my game room, you know they doing my game room for me, right?
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
So by the time we get to like sometime after Valentine's. Yeah, they doing. Oh, because you told me. You told me my parents.
Unc (Uncle)
Nah, mine. So. So deduct 6, 500 from the game room. Shoot that over to me.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Wait, wait. You said it was 59. How you get this interest?
Unc (Uncle)
500.
Joe Johnson
Gotta be some issues. Gotta be. Ocho.
Unc (Uncle)
Three years.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Hey, but, but no, this is for the show, though. I. I need. I need the presentation when we get on. I needed it to look good.
Unc (Uncle)
Yes.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
So. But the bus. The bus is gonna be in the background with. With. With all our awards and the nightcap. My nightcap sign is gonna be on like Joe. The whole thing. It's gonna look real nice. Joe.
Unc (Uncle)
Yeah? The chat would really appreciate if you cut that nightcap sign on. Hold on.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Let me see if it worked. Hold on, hold on.
Joe Johnson
It's too bright.
Unc (Uncle)
What.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Can it. Can they see it?
Joe Johnson
Oh, it ain't bad. Ocho.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Is. It's distorted though, huh?
Unc (Uncle)
Yeah, yeah, I think because it's so far away, it's distorted. So we do know. Do I want to fix all that also? Eli, man, we're going to talk about Eli later or we gonna talk about now? Okay, here's the. Armando. Armando Salguero, one of the yes voters, claims there were voters in the room who voiced their concerns about Spygate before voting along with reinforcing the importance of voting process. The hall released a statement stressing actions will be taken if one or multiple voters committed a violation of the selection process. The hall did not mention Belichick by name or identify the selection process bylaws may have been broken. One violation for would be an example would be making a decision on a candidate based on non football reasons that does not however include Spygate V. Gregorian of the Kansas City Vahee Gregorian. I guess that's how you said that. I apologize. I know. Gregoria, Kansas City Star became the first voter to outright confirm he voted against Belichick. He explained that he didn't vote against Belichick and Craft so much as the other three seniors players in Shrine who is that? Anderson who I know Roger Craig and L.C. greenwood. I don't know who Anderson is. Gregorian said he believed all five of the candidates were deserving, but was concerned that the that the three players would have him have to wait much longer than Belichick like many other senior candidates. Well, people say they wanted to put his name to it, I believe. Elsie Greenwood. Look, Elsie Greenwood was not as heralded as Mean Joe Green, Jack Lambert, Jack Ham, Mel Blunt. But go back and look at those, that steel curtains defense and look at the guy with the high top yellow shoes. Ocho. Go back and look now.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
Unc (Uncle)
I'm old enough to remember Elsie Greenwood. I remember those. Every, every super bowl they won, especially in the late like 76, 77, 78, 79. Yeah, LC was. What was he. I mean, they got, I mean think about it. They got Joe Green, hall of Fame, Ham Lambert, hall of Fame, Mel Blunt, hall of Fame, Donnie Shell, hall of Fame. So you got five hall of Famers right there and you got LC you had Andy Russell, who was a perennial All Pro and Pro bowl player. LC Greenwood was a Pro bowl player. So it's not very many times that you got seven All Pros and Pro bowl players on a defense at a given time and you're definitely not going to have five hall of Famers in their prime together. Now you might have a Hall of Famer come later in his career, but they were all drafted to the Steelers. The Steelers drafted five hall of Famers in 74, where they drafted four. Donnie Shell was an undrafted free agent. Lynn Swan, Jack Lambert, John Stallworth and Mike Webster, the first four picks on Ocho in the hall of Fame.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Oh, that's, that's.
Unc (Uncle)
And then Donnie Shell was an undrafted VA. His fifth, the fifth player. So one draft class on a team I think we got five in our 90 draft class. Oh, 250 PL. 40 players. They got five of their first 12, 13, 14 picks. Wow. You ain't gonna never see that again.
Joe Johnson
Hell no.
Unc (Uncle)
Bill Nun. Radio Raheem. That's his dad was Bill Nunn. He was the guy to scouting. Yes. For the Pittsburgh Steelers. Yes.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Oh, that's dope.
Unc (Uncle)
Eli Manning. Ocho will have to wait at least one more year. The two time super bowl winning MVP reportedly did not receive enough votes to the election into the Pro Football hall of fame is the second year of eligibility his career won 17 wins, 117 losses and a substar passing stats to make it touch the jug. A Hall of Fame resume you see a lot of times people just want to put all the credentials on. Oh, he was an mvp. He used a subo, subo, subo.
Joe Johnson
Hold on. So this is the second time he, he didn't got skipped.
Unc (Uncle)
Wow. Yep. It's gonna be, it's tough because.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Hold on.
Unc (Uncle)
Jim Plunkett won two subos. He did number one overall draft pick in 1970 if I'm not mistaken. Look that up. I think Jim Plunk was 1970.
Joe Johnson
He's still not in.
Unc (Uncle)
I don't think. No, Jim Plunk is not in because I think Archie, I think Archie went second. I think Plunkett was one. Archie was second in 1970. What you thinking, Ocho? Right call. Eli should be in. He should have to wait.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
I, I, I think, I think it's the right call. It's the right call.
Unc (Uncle)
He was drafted first overall.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
He's gonna get in. Yeah.
Unc (Uncle)
You heard me on he did. Ashley looking at me talking about what did he do in 1970? Went first of all. Didn't Archie go second? He was 71. Right. So 71, him and Archie 2. It's. Hold on. How many times did Kurt Warner have to wait? Because Kurt is a two time league mvp, an offensive player of the year, a Super bowl mvp and he had the three most passing yards in super bowl history before Tom broke them and he had to wait.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, yeah. I mean they, they listen, they, they gonna make Eli wait. He gonna get, he gonna get in regardless.
Unc (Uncle)
Three times.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, he gonna, he gonna get in.
Unc (Uncle)
It's it Joe. I, I, I don't know. I don't, like I said I used to, I, like I said after they made DT weight five times, I was like, I don't know what a Hall of Famer is. I don't, I don't.
Joe Johnson
Because they switch it up.
Unc (Uncle)
Johnny Randall had to wait. People I know People look at Johnny's antics and you know him, him talking trash and him, you know, grunting and doing all that stuff. He was hell. Johnny Randall was hell.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
He was the real deal.
Unc (Uncle)
Undersized. But Joe, he would kick it ass.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
He can go.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, go. Hey, hey. When y' all got into the league, Uncle Ocho, was being in the hall of Fame ever on y' all mind or just playing the game, having fun, boy?
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Shoot, right, Joe, you see how I played the game? I wasn't thinking nothing, but I wasn't thinking nothing about that jacket, boy.
Joe Johnson
Unc, what you thinking about it?
Unc (Uncle)
Joe, in 1991, we played in the hall of Fame game. I went into the hall of Fame and looked around, had no idea. 20 years later. Yeah, I got a bust in there. Yeah, bro, I'm a seventh round draft. Yeah. All I'm trying to do is make a team. I'm just trying to make the team. Joe, you don't think about the hall of Fame? The hall of Fame never came on my radar until Mark Kis said, hey, at the rate you go, in a couple more years like this, you're going to be a Hall of Fame candidate. I say, you think so? He's like, I know so. That was the first time.
Joe Johnson
I agree.
Unc (Uncle)
Even cross my mind. That was in like 97. I agree. Hey.
Joe Johnson
Cause look, when I came in, I just, hey, I wanted to make sure I belong. I wanted to show that I belong, that I could play in the NBA. It wasn't until about 15, 14, 15 years when they was like, man, look, you almost said 20, 20,000 points. It ain't, but it ain't but a few guys who got that, man. You, you might get a chance to get in there. But I never, I never thought about getting in the hall of Fame. I think since my career has been over. Yeah, I thought about it. But while I was playing Uncle Ocho. Yeah, man, it never crossed my mind, bro. I was just out there having fun, enjoying the game.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Hold on, Joe, you got a nominee for the hall of Fame? What?
Joe Johnson
Yeah, I got nominee this year.
Unc (Uncle)
Oh, that's my job.
Joe Johnson
Hey, Ochobot, I'm living right, man. Hey, it's a lot of good things happening for you, boy, over here. You know what I'm talking about?
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. When you get it? When you get it, boy, I'm finna be there. What?
Joe Johnson
Hey, boy, say less. They don't threaten me with no good. Yeah, Yeah.
Unc (Uncle)
I ain't never been to Springfield, Mass. So I going up there.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Oh, oh, that.
Unc (Uncle)
That's what our Basketball hall of Fame at Springfield, Massachusetts. Baseball is Coopertown, New York, and obviously football is Canton, Ohio.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Hey, boy Joe. I got a suit for that boy Joe. I can't wait, bro.
Joe Johnson
You got something for it.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Hey, look, I got a suit for that boy.
Joe Johnson
From the looks of it, it looked like I'm gonna be in the Nightcap hall of fame.
Unc (Uncle)
Yeah, yeah.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
There you go.
Unc (Uncle)
You see how I do it? You see what I said?
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Hey, we don't created a monster.
Joe Johnson
Hey, listen, don't do that. What y' all want from me? What y' all want from me?
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Come on, man. Just. Just a little respect.
Joe Johnson
I'm being respectful. I'm just keeping it 100. I'm just saying from.
Unc (Uncle)
From how things going right now, apparently.
Joe Johnson
Okay.
Unc (Uncle)
Yeah. Hey, I'm just saying. I don't know what you gonna do, but I'm gonna put a stop to this next. The next. The next taping.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Let me. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something, Joe. You getting a little too excited because we. We haven't done ping pong. We haven't played pool.
Unc (Uncle)
We haven't shot dark. You should. Hey, you.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
We ain't shot dark. It's so many things we haven't done yet. And you put. You got a little too much dip on your chip to be talking all that.
Joe Johnson
Oh, Joe. Ojo. All I want uncle to do when. When at the end of the show when he introduces, I want him to be like.
Unc (Uncle)
And still. That ain't gonna happen, Joe. Hey.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Oh, man, hell no, Joe. But hey, Joe. Well, okay. Hey, Joe, you putting the guy. Hey, you. Hey, Joe, you putting the. You putting the eggs before the chicken now? Yeah, you putting the egg. You put.
Joe Johnson
You putting the camera on the horse Now, I seen what I'm up against, so I.
Unc (Uncle)
Before the horse. The horse has to pull the cart so he's always gonna be in front.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Now, I said he putting the carriage before the horse.
Unc (Uncle)
I know. The carriage.
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Yes.
Unc (Uncle)
You said the carriage or the cart.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
I said the carriage, you know.
Unc (Uncle)
Yes, yes, you're right. Oh, so you got one, right?
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Okay. Yeah, yeah, I know what I'm talking about. I'll be using that.
Unc (Uncle)
I mean, normally it's the cart. I mean, people don't. But I. We. We get what you said. You ocho. So we know horse.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Horse and carriage, Horse and carry. You know the song.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Okay. My bad, my bad, my bad, my bad. Yeah, Joe. Hey, tighten up.
Unc (Uncle)
Your day coming, your day coming again.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Hey.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, I'm locked in. I'm Locked in.
Unc (Uncle)
Don't y'. All.
Joe Johnson
Y' all don't worry about nothing else.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Hey, the funny thing about it is don't too many people. Don't too many people out trash talk me. And the fact that you keep on egging on like you really like that. I don't like that, Joe.
Joe Johnson
Well, at the end of the day. At the end of the day, Ocho, it can't be but one winner out of all of us.
Unc (Uncle)
It can't.
Joe Johnson
Ain't like all of us can win and celebrate.
Unc (Uncle)
So the one who do win. But I ain't doing a whole lot of talking, Joe.
Joe Johnson
But you acted a fool on the golf joint. Yeah, he did. He did.
Unc (Uncle)
You really.
Joe Johnson
You really set me off. You really set me off because you acted a fool on that goal thing.
Unc (Uncle)
You acting a fool, Ocho. You could attest to this. Joe the one that talking about. Oh, yeah, I already know. I already know. I got this one before we even started.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Joe, that was you. That was you. You said that.
Joe Johnson
Oh, oh, so now y' all double team.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
No, we not. No, no, no.
Unc (Uncle)
We just going. Oh, okay.
Joe Johnson
Hey, I'm used to that. I'm used to that. I'm used to that. Just know. Hey, just know when y' all see me, man, I'm always have my A game with me. I'm always be locked in.
Unc (Uncle)
Don't even worry. We just got here. I mean, you know. I mean, you don't even know the rules of the game. Oh, oh. Once I find out what it's gonna be, I know y' all can't do. Oh, you got too much muscle. And I know Ocho ain't never been on the golf. I said, well, damn. Joke.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, it's all good. It's all good.
Joe Johnson
Hey, I wasn't too far off now.
Unc (Uncle)
I wasn't too far. But what did I tell you when he got the sudden death? I said, it's over, y'.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
All.
Unc (Uncle)
I don't need with one putt.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Unc (Uncle)
They don't call me on a palm tree for nothing. Okay, Joe, you.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Joe, you got to understand, Joe, I had on. I had on my clothes to go to dinner, Joe.
Unc (Uncle)
I took it. I took. Took one putt and laid down. I said, I'm late. I'm tired. Yeah, I'm sitting up. Look, look.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Unc (Uncle)
Hey, y'.
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All.
Unc (Uncle)
Yeah, Y' all talking about, man. Man, look like it hurt.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
I won.
Unc (Uncle)
Michael Jordan had the flu. How did Michael Jordan look doing the flu? Did he not drop 37?
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, he he, you.
Unc (Uncle)
Hey, hey.
Joe Johnson
You ain't look like you were hurting to me the way you were rolling.
Unc (Uncle)
Out on the ground and all that. They L. A do the Centipede. Next one, I'mma do the Centipede. You can't do. I do Centipede. I might break dance.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
I got.
Unc (Uncle)
Hey, I might be turbo and boogaloo shrimp.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
I got colors.
Joe Johnson
What you got?
Unc (Uncle)
Oo, you ain't got nothing for nobody.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Hey, when we get back out there. When we get back out there. Okay, I'm. I'm ready. I. I'm sitting, boy, how y' all gonna out talk me? And I'm the original trash.
Unc (Uncle)
Nightcap outside for you guys. That's in the chat that don't know what Ocho and Joe and myself are talking about. Go to nightcap outside. We had some game. We were the New York at the lawn club. And, you know, we had some games that, you know, everybody, you know, everybody get to talking there. I could do this. I could do that. Hey, and we're gonna shoot dice, Ocho. Oh, oh, who you talking to, baby? Who you talking to? Hold on, YouTube.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
What are we talking about?
Unc (Uncle)
Two dice.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, y'.
Unc (Uncle)
All.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Y' all done. Y'.
Unc (Uncle)
All.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Y' all definitely done. Because that.
Unc (Uncle)
That's what I do.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Hey, Joe, I don't know if you shoot dice, Uncle. Shoot dice?
Unc (Uncle)
Really?
Joe Johnson
I can show you better not continue.
Unc (Uncle)
Yeah, I'm trying to hit a leak.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
And bring your. Hey, hold on. I ain't. We ain't shooting no dice without no money.
Unc (Uncle)
Okay, all right.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Bring.
Unc (Uncle)
Bring your. Bring your money.
Joe Johnson
I need.
Unc (Uncle)
We don't need. We don't need. We don't need but a TH000. Whoever had. Whoever had the most money. Whoever had the most money at the end, that's who win. Okay, there we go, D. Man, y' all already know.
Joe Johnson
And I get to win some money. I get to win some money.
Unc (Uncle)
Message you, boy. And cuz, I already know that Emmy Smith gonna break the game up. What number? Emmy Smith?
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Okay, Because I know everybody gonna jump.
Unc (Uncle)
On that 10 or 4. Yeah, Little Joe. Hey, Little Joe. I'm back, though, Little Joe. All day. Speed limit, the old speed limit. That 55 will break up game up quick. Cause everybody want to jump on that ten to four with both feet.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Hey, hey. Y' all doing the whole.
Joe Johnson
Hey, boy, you boys in trouble.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Y' all doing a whole lot of talking for people that are amateurs at shooting dice.
Unc (Uncle)
That nine. Yeah. How are you feeling?
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Y' all are amateurs. That shooting dice.
Unc (Uncle)
What? Jesse James Carry 45 don't nobody move with me. Don't nobody move with me. Joe, stay right where y'. All. Ocho, don't try to make anything sudden. Let me get this money right quick.
Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah, this. Hey, this ain't gonna be a layup, fellas.
Unc (Uncle)
Oh, no. Oh, no. Yeah, yeah, I like that. Y' all already know my point. My point.
Joe Johnson
Nine.
Unc (Uncle)
Not my point.
Joe Johnson
Nah. Nina Ross. Nina Ross.
Unc (Uncle)
454, died in 63. What's my point, Joe? Yeah. Born in 54, died at 63. I would get that jacket above you, Ocho.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Hey, keep that same energy.
Unc (Uncle)
Ooh. Keep the same energy.
Joe Johnson
If I could fit that jacket, Ocho, head on the other day, Boy.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
You can fit it. You can fit a joke. You can fit it. You can fit it. You can fit it. It was the xl. You can fit it.
Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah.
Unc (Uncle)
I'd have got that up off, but that's okay. Yeah. Your day coming, though, Joe. Ocho, he can't win nothing. Yeah, you see how he talked?
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Matter of fact, you know. Hey, you know why you're not gonna win nothing else? Because he's doing too much talking now, man. That's not what.
Unc (Uncle)
Hey.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Oh, Joe. That's not what you do.
Joe Johnson
You ain't talking. Ocho, I really did this for bread and meat, man. If I didn't win, I didn't. That's what I'm trying.
Unc (Uncle)
You won't eat that. You won't eat that day. Yeah, you'll be. You gonna be sitting in the corner. You're gonna be sitting in the corner, Ocho bad. Let your boy hold something.
Joe Johnson
That's all.
Unc (Uncle)
It's.
Joe Johnson
Nah, it don't take. It don't take one little thing just to set me off and see. Unc set me off and let go, and y' all couldn't turn me off.
Unc (Uncle)
You see how Tracy Morgan did, old boy with Joe? Said, let me get some. No.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Nope. Yeah, all that talking. Remember this?
Joe Johnson
Hey, Chat, we got another. We got. We got another episode for y'.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
All.
Unc (Uncle)
There you go. Look at it. Look at you. See about your. You see, Mocho?
Joe Johnson
They want to be entertained. Guys, this is what we here for.
Unc (Uncle)
All I got hurt.
Joe Johnson
You got hurt.
Unc (Uncle)
Hey, boy.
Joe Johnson
Hey, when I tell you.
Unc (Uncle)
When I tell you. My glute almost pulled my glute pulling with y'. All.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, hey, Chad. I'm gonna say one thing. I ain't gonna bring it up no more, Uncle Ocho.
Unc (Uncle)
I'll leave it alone.
Joe Johnson
But that movie, the Rip, boy ain't got nothing on what I did.
Unc (Uncle)
Uncle Ocho earlier that day. Illegal. There you go. See you featured.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
There you go.
Unc (Uncle)
Hey, you always talk about, man, hey, man, you need to chill on oo ISO, man. You need to do this now. Look at, look, look at, look, look at what he doing now. You see what I'm talking about? Okay.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Hey, hey. See? Now see what the problem is? We done created a monster. We done created a monster.
Unc (Uncle)
It's dropping Tuesday after the Super Bowl. Ojo.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Okay, okay.
Unc (Uncle)
What a perfect timing.
Ocho (Chad Johnson)
Hey, make. Make me look good now. Make me look good.
Unc (Uncle)
That's all right. Your day coming. Ooh, yeah. Oh, no. Your day coming, Joe. Your day, Ocho. Your day been passed.
Joe Johnson
I got another day coming.
Unc (Uncle)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Ocho day been passed. But. But Joe. Joe will get exactly what's coming from him.
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Release Date: January 29, 2026
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe (“Unc”), Chad “Ocho Cinco” Johnson, Joe Johnson
This lively Nightcap episode features an unfiltered roundtable with Shannon Sharpe, Chad Johnson, and Joe Johnson, focusing on the recent controversy over the Pro Football Hall of Fame snubbing Bill Belichick, the politics behind Hall of Fame selections, and the drama around Eli Manning missing out again. The trio blends personal anecdotes, passionate critique, and locker-room banter, exposing the behind-the-scenes realities of Hall of Fame voting and the toll of gatekeeping in professional sports.
(03:18–13:18)
(14:49–18:12)
(18:12–28:34)
(22:50–26:16)
(26:17–36:42)
(28:35–32:28)
(32:29–36:13)
(52:19–55:43)
(55:24–57:31)
Ocho Cinco (on Hall voters’ pettiness):
“It’s effing ridiculous. There politics is... this kind of lessens the value of actually getting in based on accolades and resume.” (16:43)
Shannon Sharpe (on Hall’s changing standards):
“What they did to TO was so egregious, they changed the rules to keep him out on the first ballot.” (18:15)
Unc (on “Spygate” and hypocrisy):
“Are you gonna keep Tom Brady out? You’re not. So why would you keep coach Belichick out?” (23:31)
Ocho (on self-validation):
“I didn’t need your validation... at that moment I thought I was Hall of Fame worthy. That’s why I put the goddamn jacket on.” (22:26)
Shannon Sharpe (on forming your own legacy):
“You create your own hall. Say ‘F it’... you create your own bust, your own jacket. What y’all talking about?” (46:04)
Ocho reveals he made his own 14K gold Hall of Fame bust (46:07):
“Them people ain’t letting me in, so I had to go make my own.”
Banter about competitive games, debts, and trash talk runs throughout, symbolizing the camaraderie and competitive flame among elite athletes.
Sharpe’s sentimental story about calling his grandmother after making the Hall of Fame, and her pride, underlining the personal significance of such honors. (42:11–43:42)
| Segment | Timestamp | |---------|-----------| | Opening trash talk, Nightcap banter | 03:18 – 13:18 | | Bill Belichick Hall of Fame snub | 14:49 – 18:12 | | Politics of Hall voting / T.O. comparison | 18:12 – 28:34 | | Spygate & double standards | 22:50 – 26:16 | | Neglected greats & owner snubs | 28:35 – 32:28 | | Voting transparency debate | 32:29 – 36:13 | | Eli Manning misses Hall (again) | 52:19 – 55:43 | | Meaning of Hall of Fame (players’ mindsets) | 55:24 – 57:31 | | Lighthearted closing trash talk | 57:32 – 65:36 |
The episode is candid, passionate, and lighthearted. The hosts mix pointed critique with playful ribbing, frequently veering into stories that reveal the ‘real’ personalities behind public images. They're unfiltered, direct, and full of banter, embodying genuine locker-room candor: “Sometimes the antics can overshadow the play... all I know, my team’s won. Period.” (36:13)
Shannon Sharpe, Chad Johnson, and Joe Johnson pull no punches discussing the Hall of Fame’s handling of legends like Bill Belichick and Terrell Owens, laying bare the role of ego, media control, and inconsistent criteria in sports legacy. While revering the personal achievement of Hall recognition, they champion self-validation—reminding listeners that greatness, whether officially honored or not, is determined on the field, not in a voting booth.