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Nightcap - Hour 1: Nico Harrison on Luka trade, Mavs Blowout Kings, Nikola Jokic average triple-double for season
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Analyst 1
I'm not sure if they a locked now we going off experience then obviously you know they got Houston on that. Houston got youth on their side and they got to use it to their advantage, man. They got to make them guys work. But you know when you got guys like Jimmy Butler and Draymond Green and obviously you know Steph Curry, it's going to be tough to beat them, man. They got them role players around them playing great basketball. So that's going to be an interesting series. A lot of series I'm looking forward to and that Rockets and Golden State is going to be one for the ages.
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Analyst 2
But here the thing that concerns me about the Rockets, who's your go to guy?
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Analyst 3
Right?
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Analyst 2
They haven't been in this. The warriors have been in these situations. Steph know what it's like to play championship basketball, to get ready to win a title. Draymond has been there. He knows what it's like. Jimmy Butler hadn't won but he's taking team to the NBA finals. He knows what it's like and they're role players now. I don't know what's going on with Kaminga didn't really play. Moody got the assignment. So it's going to be very, very interesting because you play with a team that understands what these moments are about and what they're like versus a team that's extremely athletic. Excuse me, Smith. And you got Dylan Brooks and you got Jalen Green, you got Van Fleet, you got App sengun. He's for real. Yeah, yeah. Draymond gonna have his hands with him now.
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Analyst 1
Hey, them boys playing and them Rockets, they playing hard, man. You know, M ada, he gonna have them ready now. They ain't gonna be scared of nothing. No, they gonna come out and compete.
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Analyst 3
No, I think the fact. I think the fact that they are young, Joe, is why you can't. You can't have. Have them as a lock.
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Analyst 2
They play.
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Analyst 3
They play on both ends of the court. And I think the pressure for them, especially when you're that young, you just out there playing basketball. You're just out there playing basketball. You're just out there having fun and doing what you need to do. And I think they have the warriors to win, obviously, not not only because of Steph, but because of the experience. They've already been there before, but it's going to be a good series, a very, very good.
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Analyst 2
They gotta. They got a whole.
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Analyst 3
It's going to 7:2 now.
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Analyst 2
They. But Joe, they got a. So they got us whole serve at home.
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Cube
Yeah. Talking about the Rockets.
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Analyst 2
The Rockets got a whole circle.
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Analyst 1
They do, they do. Because that's going to be the confidence booster if you can win the first two games at home and then have to travel to, you know, Golden State to, you know, to try to get a win. But, man, I just like that young Rockets team. They play hard, they're fearless, and, you know, they know what it's like to play the warriors and because they played them pretty well this year.
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Analyst 2
Yep.
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Analyst 3
Hey, hey, Joe. Unc. If they, if they come out the gate in general and win the first two games at home, well, it can get spooky. It can get spooky.
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Analyst 2
The one thing about the warriors, the warriors won't panic, though, because they've been here. I remember a couple years ago, they went down to Sacramento and they had to go to Sacramento and win game seven. And Steph Curry had one of the great all time performances. He dropped 50 on them in a game seven. So the warriors are not. Look, you lose the first two games on the road. All they did was hold serving home. The series doesn't start until the road team wins a game. So all Houston would have done is protect their home. They did not let the warriors come in and invade their territory. So we kept them at bay. Now can we make an advancement into their territory by stealing a game at home? Now Rockets are saying all we gotta do is just hold survey home. If we win all four at home, we advance. The warriors are saying we gotta get, we gotta find a way to get one. All we gotta do is get one at home. Get one at home and we like our team.
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Analyst 1
And I think that first game for the warriors will be probably one of the best games for them to get because they young team in Houston, you know, having to understand you're the two seed, you're the one being hunted. Like you gotta understand and know how to protect that. And you can't wait to see what the intensity is gonna be like before you have to rev it up like go to State. They gonna already know.
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Analyst 2
So they know.
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Analyst 1
Yeah, the Rockets, they, they cannot lose on their home floor. They gotta protect, they gotta protect the house. And I think it's gonna be a hell of a series.
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Analyst 2
Yeah, Golden State said we already played the playoff game. We beat Memphis even though it doesn't go towards anything. But that was a playoff type atmosphere because, hey, the one thing we didn't want to do was fall and now we're out. So hey, let's just go ahead and make it light on ourselves. And plus, I think they like their chances better against the Rockets than they do.
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Analyst 1
Absolutely, absolutely. Hey, listen, listen. I think they definitely take the Rockets because, you know, they know and understand the moment and they know that the Rockets will be a little inexperienced even though they're going to play hard and they definitely going to make it competitive. But you know, the Rockets definitely got the, I mean the warriors definitely got the team who I think they were seeking out to get in the playoffs.
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Analyst 2
Mav beat the Mavs beat the Kings 120 to 106. AD and Clay combined for 50 points as the Mavs blow out the Kings. The game really wasn't that close at any point in time. I mean, 14 points at one point in time. They had it up as many as 24 points. Joe, I'm gonna ask you this. Did tonight win redeem Nico Harrison? Does he make. Does the Mavericks fan say, you know what, he ain't that bad after all he gave us. What did he give us? 27, 9, 3 blocks and assist to steal plus 10 and the plus minus 27, 9 and 3. We can live with that. It's all well in Dallas after they advance to face the Memphis Grizzlies for a chance to be the Eighth seed and face the OKC Thunder.
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Analyst 1
I don't think it's all well in Dallas. It was a good, it was a good performance by ad, But I kind of feel like the Mavericks, they gonna get cheated this year, man. They, they don't have Kyrie, you know, who was out with an ACL injury. And you know, at some point, even maybe next game, they, they need guys like him who can take over, create havoc on offense and put guys in the right position. So I think it's going to be tough, man. They, they still got their work cut out. They gotta play against Memphis in right. Memphis can't lose that game, man. That's going to be a good one.
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Analyst 2
But let me ask you this, are you concerned about the health of Ja? Now, we saw him hurt the ankle. He stayed out for a significant amount of time. He tried to come back in, but you know, you've had that in. Probably had that injury where you go to shoot a shot, you land on someone's foot, ankle, you roll your ankle. How sore is he going to be? Is there enough time between. They played last night. You had Thursday off and you play tomorrow. And you play, you have tomorrow off and then you'll play.
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Analyst 1
He gonna heal up quick. You know, that was me and you having a spray. It's gonna take us about three weeks to a month to get back. He gonna bounce right back. He gonna be ready to go. He, he understands the moment, I think. And knowing that it's in Memphis, I'm sure he's not gonna want to let them fans down. So I expect Ja to put on the show, man.
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Analyst 2
Ocho, this game, Dallas mavericks, they win 120 to 106. Anthony Davis, I mean, they got contributions everywhere. AD had 27, PJ Washington had 17, Clay had 23. This is what they calculate off the bench. Dante Exum had 11, Brandon Williams had 17 and 18 minutes, five or six from the four, three or four from the three point line, four and four from the free throw line. The bench was very, very good for the Dallas mavericks to overcome. DeMar DeRozan had 33. Zach Levine had a quiet 20. They didn't get the kind of production they normally get from the bonus. He only had 11, 13 and 5, but he's normally somewhere around 17, 18. Give you that, and they needed that tonight. But Dallas go on the road to Sacramento and win this game. Ocho, what did you like about what you saw from Dallas?
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Analyst 3
I mean, this is exactly what you expected them to do. This is exactly what you expect them to do. Obviously the fans have been mad about the trade and AD coming in, Luka leaving, Luka coming in. Time to remind you why I should have stayed. But all this is for the Dallas fans and the organization for the, for the Mavericks as well as you put a band aid on the band aid on the gas. That's all it is. This is what you're supposed to do to Sacramento. So what you're going to see is later on down the line when it comes time for a seven game series, things are going to be a little different. You don't have, you don't have Kyrie. He's hurt most of the bulk of everything. Going to be on 80 to have to. What's the word I'm looking for? Be a score, a 30, a 32, a 35. To be able to lead that team to another series, which Luke was able to do with Kyrie. I don't think he's going to be able to do it.
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Analyst 2
Yeah, you definitely need. And Joe, you can speak to this in the playoffs. You need a guy that you can put the ball in his hands and he can go get you a punch. And it's nice to have that as a guard because you don't have to get him the ball. He can come get the ball, bring it up and Kyrie can describe it. Kyrie can get his shot from anywhere he can finish in the paint. Given that he's not an above the rim player. But his layup package and his ability to handle and create a shot for himself or someone else is second to none. And so to that what going on the road. Now you look at Memphis, they got Triple J who did not have a great performance the other night. Job was good. Desmond Bane played unbelievable. The Pippen junior played really well. What does Dallas have to do to go in and to create a similar performance to what they had tonight?
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Analyst 1
AD Gonna have to be dominant. He gonna have to be dominant, man. He gonna have to put up big numbers in order for them to win. I know they pretty much play by committee. By committee. You know, Clay got off to a pretty good start tonight. You know, he shot the ball really well. But they definitely, they got guys who can put up numbers now. They got guys coming off that bench who can definitely chip in and help. But I think with their size, they gonna give, they gonna give Memphis some problems. Well though, you know, they, that's, that's why AD is able to kind of roam because he got lively and gaffer down there to kind of clog up the Pain, you know what I mean?
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Analyst 2
Yep. And he gets to play. When Lively's on the four, he always gets to play. For the most part, he gets to play the four, which he loves to play. Because when you have Lively, you bring in a Daniel Gafford. You right, They're a big team. You look at P.J. washington, goals about 6, 8. Lively goes about 611 or 7 foot. Ad goes 6'ten Daniel Gafford, 69, 60, 10. This is a very, very big ball club. And so the front line and they challenge a lot of shots. They had eight blocks tonight. AD had three, Gafford had two. And so, you know, nothing. Hey, it's simple philosophy to playoff. Nothing. Cheap.
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Analyst 1
Cheap, man.
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Analyst 2
Nothing. Easy. You coming to play? I gotta put you down. I'm sorry.
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Analyst 1
But with Memphis, Memphis got JJ and Big eating, eating down there, you know, they gonna cause some havoc as well. But I do expect Jai to really put on a pretty good performance because they gonna need him. They gonna need his leadership, you know, definitely on the court for them to be able to continue. And whoever wins the game, they got okay.
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Analyst 2
That. That's your prize, huh?
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Analyst 1
You got okay. See in the first round, you gonna be in for a fight.
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Cube
What?
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Analyst 2
Hey. Yeah. Are you surprised that Spencer Dinwiddie, who has been a major contributor, he only got two minutes of mop up duty tonight? I was surprised they went with Exum as opposed to Spencer Dinwiddie. What is it that you think J kid saw that? He says, you know what? The minutes that we normally give Dinwiddie, we're going to give those minutes to Exum because he played 19 minutes and he was in. He had 11 points. Four, four. One of three, one of one from the two, three point line and two. Made both of his free throws, had three rebounds, had what, ooh, six assists.
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Analyst 1
He bring good energy. He bring good energy to the table. I think Dinwiddie is more of an offensive threat. And Exum, Yes, Exum gonna come in and he gonna be more of an X factor. He's gonna play hard defensively. He gonna knock down the shots at the open, especially in that corner. So I think he probably just leaned a little more on Exima probably because he had a little bit more confidence in him tonight.
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Analyst 2
And plus he's looking to get everybody involved as opposed to Spencer Dinwiddie looking to get his bag.
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Analyst 1
Trying to get.
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Analyst 2
Yeah, yeah, get what he said. I'm playing for a contract, bro. To keep it. To keep it. Keep it. A buck with you.
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Analyst 3
Oh, yeah, I'm trying to get this contract.
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Analyst 2
You're right. I think the thing is with Edie, look, he remind. I. I think the thing is when you look at Memphis, when they were at their best, they had. What's the guy. What's the. The big guy they had. He just traded into Houston Adams being an Adam. Yeah. Big Stephen Adams. Yeah. Ja was tremendous in the pick and roll. He gave the Adams, gave them extra opportunities. Zach. Eddie can do that. But. But. But Zach is going to have to be more. He's going to have to be a little bit more active because I think he's a better offensive weapon. He was player of the year. No matter what you think of him, his game, college game, compared to the NBA, he was a player of the year. He wasn't all American, and so he has the offensive skills now. It's not, you know, him shooting threes, but around the rim. I'm not so sure. They run a whole lot of plays for him. He's not a guy that you run. Hey, you want. Hey, you want 14 points? Get it off you go.
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Analyst 1
You got to get it off the rim. Because the thing is, we'll have him on the floor. They gonna keep him in pick and rolls, you know what I mean? Because he's probably gonna play back. A lot of the times he's not gonna be up to the pick and right for the guards, you know, that's definitely essential for them trying to get to the basket and just create opportunities for everybody on the squad.
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Analyst 2
That's where Kyrie would be extra beneficial because you play, you put Ed in the pick and roll and, you know, he doesn't want to hedge and he doesn't have the ladder. He doesn't have the lateral quickness or the. Excuse me. Yeah, quickness or to be able to drop back. So Kyrie, like. Oh, yeah, this. If Shaq would say barbecue kick jumpers.
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Analyst 1
Floaters, passes, like, it'll be a pretty sad to see, but like I said, they got other guys on their team who are capable of having big nights or even winning you a game in the playoffs, and that's what you need.
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Analyst 2
Yeah, Nick Marshall did a lot of having the ball tonight. They let Clay bring it up early, but Nick Marshall was really in charge. Uh, I thought exim. Coming in gave him a boost of energy. As you mentioned, Brandon Williams was sensational.
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Analyst 1
He's been.
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Analyst 2
He was absolutely sensational. 17 points in 18 minutes. He got it and got it going early and a lead that was like 8, 9, all of a sudden became 18, 19, 20. Yeah. What's his name? Nig. No, Nigee. Oh, Najee Marshall. My bad. Najee Marshall. I thought you was talking about Brandon Williams. I'm like, I'm seeing Williams. Nigy Marshall, he did a lot of ball handling, but he's not a natural point guard. He's not a natural facilitator. And I think that gets a lot of teams because, oh, he can handle the ball. Just because you can handle the ball doesn't mean you can run an offense. And I think we saw that with the Phoenix Suns because Booker. Yeah, Book can handle the ball, but Booker's a dude. You look at. You go back and look at the Suns and study them. They work. Best win when they had CB3 and get everybody. Hey, Katie, you can get that shot right there. Hey, Book, you can get this right here. Stop pretending. Just because somebody can handle the ball, they can run an offense. Those are two different things. Handling the ball, running an offense, it's just like a quarterback, Ocho, you know, hey, he can throw the ball, can't he run an offense?
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Analyst 3
Nah.
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Analyst 2
Go ahead, Ocho. What you want to say?
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Analyst 3
Nah, I just. I just came back from using.
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Analyst 2
Watch me wash your hands.
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Analyst 3
Yeah, yeah, yeah, my bad.
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Analyst 1
Foreign.
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Analyst 2
There'S been one constant during the entire Luka Doncic trade fiasco is that Nico Harrison and the Mavs continue to make some worst PR decision imaginable. Nico said he has no regret in the LUCA trade. When you look at this trade, we targeted AD with our philosophy of defense wins championships. We wanted a two way player that could lead our team and that was Anthony Davis. Everyone's going to have the criticism and I'm not sure what Mark Cuban said, but that's a better question left for him. But we got what we wanted. My obligation is to the Dallas Maverick. It's what's best interest of the Dallas Mavericks and that's what's the Most important thing, some of these decisions are going to be unpopular. Maybe to Durkin, maybe to some fans, but my obligation is to the Dallas Mavericks.
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Analyst 3
Is he trolling at this point?
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Analyst 2
No, but he should stop talking about it.
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Analyst 3
He's making. He's making it worse.
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Cube
I'm not.
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Analyst 3
I'm not sure what his angle is. I'm not. I'm not sure what it is. For the betterment of the future of the Dallas Mavericks, you want to make the right decisions long term. Letting Luka Doncic go to the Lakers is not making the right decisions by the fans or the Dallas Mavericks on the organization. Now, I'm not saying there's nothing wrong with AD but, I mean, we talk about longevity and wanting to keep your job based on the decisions that you make for the betterment of the team. It would have been keeping Luca there.
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Analyst 2
But that's not his. But at the end of the day, that's not his call. That's ownership's call. And the Dumont family said, okay, Mark Cuban just tweeted. What did he tweet?
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Analyst 3
He called him stupid or something. I guarantee you. I guarantee you.
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Analyst 2
He said, dirk is a Dallas. Is the Dallas Maverick. Then nine forever. No one should ever forget that. That statue will forever. Will be here forever. Loyalty never fades. Tomorrow night, 15 guys will put on a Mavericks uniform and they'll do everything they can to win for themselves, each other, and the fans. Our squad busted their you know what, fight through incredible adversity. They have my respect and support, should have everyone's. I'm a Mavs fan. I'll always love and cheer for everyone who puts on our uniform tomorrow night. And however many games we have left in this season and ever in the future, whether I'm in the stands or in front of the TV or following every play online, my heart and soul is committed to rooting for our Mavs to win. That will never change. I know fans are upset, but don't be upset at the players. Support them, root for them. Rally behind them. I don't know what. Mm. What is that? Okay, well, what Ash said. Mavs fans for life. Hashtag Mavs fan for life.
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Analyst 3
Man, that was slow. That was so PC. I thought he gave some, you know, truth on based on the decisions that was made.
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Analyst 2
Look, he called.
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Analyst 1
He called.
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Analyst 2
He's upset. Cause Nico called out Dirk. Maybe Dirk is upset. Oh, okay. Maybe the fans are upset and he's looking at like, bro, if you're a part of the. You know, Dirk agents is kind of like Ocho. It's kind of like if you were to call out somebody from Cincinnati.
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Analyst 3
Yes, sir.
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Analyst 2
Or when I call out somebody from the Broncos or the Ravens, it's a little different. We played there. People still remember, you know, your number 85 is up, my number 84 is up. People remember what I did in Baltimore. So it's a little different when it comes from you as somebody else criticizing a guy that played here.
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Analyst 3
Right. Okay.
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Analyst 2
Like he said, Dirk is a legend. 20, 20, 20, what they're play 20 seasons? 20 season or 21? 20 season, same uniform, never left, had an opportunity to land, get bigger paydays. He said, no, this is my home. Yeah. And so Nico, my recommendation, 21. Yes, Ocho, just let it go. Fans are going to be upset. Fans are going to be upset. Especially because it's still so fresh.
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Analyst 1
Time.
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Analyst 2
Let time, let time pass and you know you'll be okay. But don't, don't mention anymore. You're not gonna, you can't, you're not going to make these people, these fans forget. And no matter how much you say you wanted Anthony Davis, you targeted Anthony Davis. And we want to be a two way team because defense win championships. Fans ain't really trying to hear that.
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Analyst 3
They ain't trying to hear that.
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Analyst 2
Man.
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Analyst 3
Ain't no.
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Analyst 2
You gave a guy away when you traded a guy that was theirs. He came here at 18. Dallas was all he knew. Those fans, Luka is all they knew. And now they don't have him anymore. And.
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Analyst 3
We know what he does on the court. I don't care nothing about all that other stuff. And you say at some point the fans will forget. They will never forget. Because there's a type of player that the Lakers got. They understand Luka will always remind them. Dallas, Nico Collins and the owners on what they did based on his plate in la. And they're going to always resent that because he's going to be the superstar that they had. He going to always remind them, this is what you let go every single.
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Analyst 2
Year in every game that he had. Like he had that game when he went back, he dropped 45. That should have been. That she should have been dropping that 45 on the Lakers for us. You saw the other night, he had 39 against the Houston, I think the Rockets, and he didn't play the fourth quarter. So when you see him go off of those type performances, you like, what are we doing? And A.D. look, A.D. is a phenomenal player. A.D. is an all 75 player. He's been an all NBA selection, he's been an All Star. He's been an All Star Game mvp. He's won a title. He's not Fettuccine, but he's not Luka. Not Phoenix. Sun fired Budenholt's. Yeah. The Suns became the third team in the NBA history to start the season 81 or better and missed the playoff. They joined the 1970 Detroit Pistons and the 200102 Milwaukee Bucks. KD is looking to leave the Suns. Ocho, who should be held accountable for the sun's failures.
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Analyst 3
But I, you, you look at before KD got there, were the Suns playing well? Were they failing before KD got there?
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Analyst 2
Probably got there. What day they was in the NBA in the NBA Finals.
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Analyst 3
NBA Finals win.
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Analyst 2
They lost to 21. They lost to the Bucks and in the NBA Finals. And then they lost in what? They beat the Clippers one year. Well, that was the year they went to the Finals. The next year they beat the Lakers and then they lose two of the Suns. I mean, the Nuggets, they lost to Luka, to Dallas, they were the number one seed that ended up losing to Luka.
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Analyst 3
You know what? When it comes down to it, I'm assuming you can. Some of the blame does go go on the players. Some of the blame can't go on Kevin Durant. I'm not sure how much of it you can put on one individual player. When collectively, obviously there is a group of five that have to play and have to gel together. You think obviously when you have these super teams with Bradley, Bill and Devin Booker and Kevin Durant coming together, you expect the results to obviously show on the court. Obviously the maturation, they didn't work. The relationship between him and Bowden, how you say the coach's name. Obviously things didn't work, especially the way it started out. It started out really good and obviously 8 and 1, but, you know, not making the playoffs or playing for that matter, I mean, it's, it's, it's horrible. Everybody has to be held accountable. Obviously, most of the, most of the, the criticism and the critiquing will go to the superstar players, especially one of the greatest scorers of all time. So I guess he can, he can, he can, he can, he can take that criticism. Obviously, them not making the playoffs. He's, he's a. He would be a part of the problem if he wasn't part of the goddamn solution, for that matter.
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Analyst 2
I mean, this is the fourth coach in four years. They fired Marty Williams. They fired who? The Lakers coach, Vogel. Who's the Vogel?
- [29:17]
Analyst 1
Vogel.
- [29:18]
Analyst 2
They fired but they could fire Bud. Yeah, they about to be on their fourth coaches now. Bud got three more years at 10 million. Vogel had had several years at like 8 million. And I know my issue has a, have tons of money, but you gotta, you gotta stay the course a little longer than a year.
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Analyst 3
Yeah. And that's the problem when it comes to people, when it comes to owners, obviously in life, in life, the way they fix things. Most of the time when you see a pattern like this where you keep firing coach after coach after coach after coach is sometimes you just throw money at it and you think it fixed the problem. That's how it works in the business world. When it comes to the sports world, you throw your money at it and then you allow it time to manifest. You let it marinate for a little bit until they can jail, until it all works out.
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Analyst 2
I believe. I think the only player that's going to be there is Devin Booker. He's the player that started there. I think KD is going to be gone. Bradley Bill is going to be gone. Now Bradley Bill is a little bit more tougher than KD for the simple fact Bradley Bill has a no trade clause. So he has to, he has to sign off on where you're going to send it. Yeah, kd, you know they're going to be a lot of teams, but you got to replace what you gave up. Yeah, you gave up a bunch of.
- [30:44]
Analyst 3
First rounds and players, but you're saying replace. You will never get the value of what you got for Katie, but you can get something.
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Analyst 2
Yeah, well, you gotta get. You. Well, you gotta refill the conference up. You gotta get draft capital back.
- [30:57]
Analyst 1
Right?
- [31:02]
Analyst 2
It's tough, man. It's tough because KD played for now. He came half the year with money. They fired Monty after the season. Hired Vogel, fired Vogel, hired Buddenhoser, fired him. Now they're about to be on their fourth coach, but KD won't be there up under him. I think book stays. I think book is the only piece that stays. They're going to try to move, but that's what happens. People just think it's more to building a team that's putting three guys that can put the ball in the basket. And that's what everybody say. Just oh, oh, KD, oh, book, man. Katie gonna give you 27. Book gonna give you 27. Bradley Bill gonna give you 27.
- [31:41]
Analyst 1
Okay, that's fine.
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Analyst 2
Well and good. Until they don't do that because they don't fit. The pieces don't fit. O Joe.
- [31:49]
Analyst 3
Hey, you Know, when you think about it, obviously, you say those names. You say those names and understanding what they can do, you know, being able to score at all three levels, put the ball on the floor, catch and shoot, pop and shoot, whatever it may be. I'm thinking, well, hell, man, they finna be. Boy, they gonna be. They gonna be animals.
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Analyst 2
If you put Chase, Jefferson and Tyreek all on the same team. You got one ball.
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Analyst 3
Hey, one ball. Hey, listen, just the thought of that.
- [32:20]
Analyst 2
Hey, yeah, just the thought of that. Strike up the band and see, you look at the Patriots, the pieces always fit. One guy got a lot of. Mostly the catches. And then everybody fit in after that, right? Look, you get kd. Who's kd? He's an mvp. Finals mvp. Four time scoring chance, okay? He really doesn't need the ball. Bradley, Bill and Booker, they need the ball. But what they needed, see, they put. They shifted Book to the point. He can play it, but Book's a two. He don't need to be initiating the offense. If you look at Book, he had his best years. He has CP3. CP3 was a facilitator. CP3 knew how to get everybody where they wanted the ball, where they needed the ball to be the most important. But when you have all this, you got $150 million in payroll with three guys. Ocho, something gotta go. Yeah, you gotta. You gotta. Hey, you got this big fancy house. You buy a big fancy house and you on a budget. Well, guess What? Be like O'Shell and Sharp. Ain't had nothing but a TV. And then the bed in the bedroom. Come to the house, ages you, you'll be sitting on the floor like Indian style. That's all I got for you. That's what I had. That's. That's all I had. I overextended myself. I got a house that was outside of my budget, so it wasn't no sense in me going more over budget and putting furniture, a whole bunch of furniture in there. I got a bed and I got a tv. That's it. Let me tell you how long ago this being. Ocho, I know you didn't know this, but Mitsubishi used to make tv.
- [33:57]
Analyst 3
I remember that. I had a Mitsubishi aunt.
- [34:00]
Analyst 2
Yeah, sure did.
- [34:02]
Analyst 3
Got in Mitsubishi.
- [34:04]
Analyst 2
Yep.
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Analyst 3
I ain't heard that in a long time either.
- [34:10]
Analyst 2
It was a. It was a tube. It was a tube tv. You know, I didn't have. I ain't had the money, you know, back then. Yeah, but the knob TV that went on the wall with 10, 15, $20,000, baby, I said oh, no, listen, put this thing up on it. Put this thing up on the chair. I can see. Cause, you know, we growing up, we put it on a chair. Phone booth, you had a little tv or you had the big foam. That's what they call it.
- [34:32]
Analyst 3
Yeah, we put. We put our TVs off, obviously, at grandma place, we had the crates. Remember the crates? The crates that.
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Advertiser 1
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Analyst 2
Yeah, yeah, milk crate. Yeah, we put out.
- [34:41]
Analyst 3
We put out right on the crate.
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Analyst 2
Oh, you had a floor model tv, oj. Yeah, floor model. That was big. Might show the picture. Yeah, but they have no sound, right? The little one had the sound. See how we do that old choke. See how we did that right there? Get us on one of the more flow model TVs. Y'all remember Sony, Sylvania, Zenith?
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Analyst 3
Hey, my grandma had the big Zenith in our room.
- [35:04]
Analyst 2
Rca. Remember the RCA with the megaphone with the dog?
- [35:07]
Cube
Yeah.
- [35:08]
Analyst 3
Hey, that's so bad.
- [35:09]
Analyst 2
Hold on.
- [35:09]
Analyst 3
I bet you remember the satellites, though, the big satellites. Oh, yeah.
- [35:13]
Analyst 2
Yes, yes.
- [35:14]
Analyst 3
My granddaddy had one of the big old satellites.
- [35:16]
Analyst 2
Yes, yes. I remember that line yesterday. But it's because, I mean, if you go back and look at the beginning of the year, The Suns were 201 odds to win the NBA title. They had better odds than everybody. Damn near everybody, except probably Boston. Yeah.
- [35:36]
Analyst 3
That's crazy, man.
- [35:43]
Analyst 2
It's just a bad. I don't know, but where does KD go?
- [35:49]
Analyst 3
Miami. Because, you know, I'm always, you know, I'm always saying Miami. Now, obviously, you're gonna have to give. What.
- [35:54]
Analyst 2
What are y'all gonna give up to get him?
- [35:55]
Analyst 3
I don't know. That's not my. That's up to Pat Riley, Mickey Harrison.
- [35:58]
Cube
I'm.
- [35:59]
Analyst 3
I'm not sure what that looks like. But as long as we keep bam, we gonna be all right. I think in finding some other pieces that we can get from somewhere else, we got. We got to have some. But I'm just. I think it would be great. It would be a great place. I think KD might have a house down here. I'm not sure. I've seen him down here numerous times.
- [36:15]
Analyst 2
Man, you got that kind of money, you got a house everywhere. Yeah, but, hey, listen, Katie, do. Katie do it quite well for himself.
- [36:23]
Analyst 3
Yeah, yeah. I just, I just. Listen, I, I. We need a star. We need to do what the Lakers do. Always find a way to pull one out our. I was getting ready to curse. I'm not gonna curse. Pull one out our hat. We need to do that. Pat Riley needs to do that just to get. Just. Have you seen the attendance at the games, Uncle? It's not. It's not what it. It's not what it should be. Especially.
- [36:43]
Analyst 2
First of all, they don't come to. They don't come till late anyway. Yeah. Y'all don't be there to talk. I. Look, I done been to Miami Heat games. I went for the champions. Yeah. And at the start of the game, I'm like, well, damn. Do y'all really know this is the NBA final?
- [36:55]
Analyst 3
Yeah, yeah, you right, you right, you right.
- [36:57]
Analyst 2
And remember they was leaving in that game six before Ray hit the shot. Happened. Yeah.
- [37:02]
Analyst 3
And they tried to come running back in.
- [37:04]
Analyst 2
Tried to come back in now. No, that ain't gonna happen. I'm trying to say, first of all, there are only a handful of teams that have the draft capital that they're gonna need to get kd. And the question is, are they willing to break it up? Okay, see, has the capital.
- [37:20]
Analyst 3
Who?
- [37:21]
Analyst 2
OKC Thunder. They got like 13 first round picks.
- [37:24]
Analyst 3
Can you imagine? Can you imagine SGA and Kevin Durant.
- [37:28]
Analyst 2
Yeah, we said the same thing about Devin Booker and Kevin Durant.
- [37:31]
Analyst 3
There you go.
- [37:32]
Analyst 2
Yeah, we said that. We said the same thing about James Harden and Joel Embiid.
- [37:39]
Analyst 1
Right.
- [37:40]
Analyst 2
Can you imagine? Now James Harden has found the fountain of youth. He played. He looked like the James Harden the boat. Yes, that he does. Kawhi Kawhi got those knees healthy. He looks phenomenal. I just, I don't. KD doesn't strike me as a guy that. That, that, that live with regret or looks back on. But probably. Maybe a better move would probably been going to the Knicks.
- [38:07]
Analyst 3
Hey, like you should have done the first time instead of. Instead of going to Brooklyn.
- [38:11]
Analyst 2
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Maybe going to the Knicks from the jump. Oh, I don't know.
- [38:15]
Analyst 3
It's too late.
- [38:16]
Analyst 2
They.
- [38:16]
Analyst 3
Too late now.
- [38:17]
Analyst 2
They might. Right? They might be an option. I don't. I don't know. I'm just saying instead of going to Brooklyn, maybe go to the. Go to the Knicks. Maybe things would have been different. Different. We'll never know. Yeah, we'll never know. We just know this has gone horribly wrong. This is. There's no way around it. Look, we don't have to blame anybody, but we can say this unequivocally. This was terrible.
- [38:43]
Analyst 3
Yeah, it was. It was.
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- [39:23]
Analyst 2
The warriors beat the Grizzlies 121 116. Jimmy Butler 38 points. Steph Curry 37 points. And they held off a very valiant and game Memphis Grizzly team by the score of 121 to 126. This game was really really close. So now the warriors advance. They're the seventh seed and they take on the Rockets. That game probably will start Sunday. Q Watching this game, what did you like about what you saw from the the Warriors?
- [39:50]
Cube
Damn that man.
- [39:51]
Analyst 1
I heard that Raider shot.
- [39:56]
Cube
I'm the president of the Raider nation.
- [39:58]
Analyst 1
Always remember that.
- [39:59]
Analyst 2
Okay.
- [40:00]
Cube
All right. Now, now getting to this game. We knew what was going to happen. It was close, but we know, you know, Steph is, you know, the man and proved it once again hitting big shots, big moments. Warriors advance. You know, we knew what was going to happen.
- [40:22]
Analyst 2
I thought the game would have been a lot. You know what it had been interesting to see Cube or Ocho had John not tweaked that angle. You know, he goes up for the shot, he comes down on guy's ankle and he can't. He came back in the game late, but he wasn't Ja. Desmond Bane was unbelievable. He kept him close. Big threes stealing the ball, doing a lot of good things. Triple J played an outstanding game. But I just thought if Ja had stayed in there would have been interesting to see. We never know. Who knows, maybe Steph goes crazy and he goes instead of 37, 38, he goes for 50. But it was a good game. It's what we expect it to be. This is the first time the warriors have actually got out of the play end. They had been over. Now they're 1 and 4 in the. In. In the play in tournament. Ocho, what. What'd you like about what you saw?
- [41:08]
Analyst 3
Listen, I. I enjoyed the game to his fullest. I probably thought that the warriors were going to come out and. And. And be victorious in the win obviously. Playoff. Playoff. Jimmy as. As we. As he's known to be called, showed up.
- [41:18]
Analyst 2
Play in Jimmy.
- [41:20]
Analyst 1
Okay, you right.
- [41:21]
Analyst 3
Play. Play in Jimmy. Listen, he had 21 and a half. He came, he came up and he showed out. Steph Curry did what he did, ending the game with 37. But I think the game might have been different, even though it was close. But if we got a jaw that wasn't injured and didn't mess up his ankle towards the end of the game. Now, Devin Bane did what he did to keep him close, but obviously Steph Curry coming in clutch towards the end of the game. And it is what it is.
- [41:44]
Analyst 2
Yeah, I mean, look, this is the warriors time of year. We know what they're capable of doing. It's amazing to me that they haven't gotten out of the playing cube considering all that championship game pedigree all the time. They've been in NBA Finals, they've been in Western Conference finals, they've had tough or ball games, but for whatever reason, it's hard for them to get out of the play in. If I'm not mistaken, I think they lost to the Lakers, a couple of lost to the Lakers, lost to the Grizz, but they haven't been what we thought they would be, especially in the play in. So now they get an opportunity to, to advance. They're the number seven seed. They take on the Houston Rockets, the second best record in the Western Conference. But this is a young team that's not really battle tested. Q. How do you see this matchup shaping out between the Rockets and the Warriors?
- [42:30]
Cube
Well, you know, the, the warriors got that pedigree. They, they know what it takes. You know, Rockets are scrappy, you know, they defense, they all over the, the court. You know what I mean? They, they running, they gunning, dunking, they shooting, they, they kind of doing it all. But you know, they all different animal. You know, you playing the same team over and over again. They get a chance to lock in on you, you get a chance to lock in on them. And you know, in basketball, by the third game, you know all the moves they got. They know all the moves you got and the will to win. And so the warriors are battle tested. They got that will to win. Even though I like the Rockets young scrap the team. I just think the warriors got everything it takes with Draymond and Jimmy is hungry as ever. So I, I expect the warriors to come out of that.
- [43:34]
Analyst 2
Well, you mentioned you're the, you're the God. What did you say? The Godfather.
- [43:39]
Cube
President and the Braided nation, man.
- [43:43]
Analyst 2
So what. So what are you with the Lakers? Are you the Godfather? The Lakers? What are you for? The Lakers?
- [43:48]
Cube
Oh, man, you know, the Lakers I mean, I haven't put, put a name on it. You know, it's something greater than love.
- [43:56]
Analyst 2
With the make you the mayor of Lakerville.
- [44:00]
Cube
But you know, I've been a big fan, man, since I was knee high to a horse fly. And so it's, it's just really all about seeing them jail. You know, do they have enough time to jail to, to go all the way? We'll see. You know, they got a nice, a nice squad. You know, I like all, I like the size of all the role players. You know, they all damn near the same size with the same athletic ability. And so it's, it's pretty cool to see them, you know, teamed up with, with LeBron Luca and AR15.
- [44:41]
Analyst 2
Cube, let me ask you this. Where were you when you heard the news the Lakers were trading Anthony Davis for Luka Doncic? And did you believe it when you heard it?
- [44:53]
Cube
I, I didn't believe it. You know, I was, I was at the house and, and, and you know, I was, you know, I know my son, he had a, you know, a podcast he had to do and he was just like freaking out on the podcast reading the news at the same time. And so, you know, it was hard to believe that was true. But the Lakers always pulled the rabbits out. They had, you know, I'm like, I felt the same way when they got Shaq. You know, I felt the same way when they got.
- [45:31]
Analyst 2
LeBron.
- [45:32]
Cube
You know, it was like, man, how did the Lakers pull this off? Great front office, you know, I never count them out, no matter, you know, what, how, you know, how the team look from year to year. You know, I never count that front office out. Even bringing AD in was, was amazing to me.
- [45:51]
Analyst 2
Gave up a lot to get him, but it worked out. He got a championship out of the deal.
- [45:55]
Cube
Yeah, without a doubt.
- [45:57]
Analyst 2
Cube, you're the co founder of the Big three. Last year was your most viewed season. How do you take it to the next level? And it's being reported that Dwight Howard said, my last year playing professional basketball, I'm gonna play it in the big three.
- [46:11]
Cube
There we go. You know, star power. You know, the same thing, you know, that you guys got here, star power. So that's what we bringing in the league. That's what people want to see. But also the style of play. You know, I think people love the big three because, you know, there's still a place for the big man. You know, we still defense, you know, we let them trash talk. We let players be themselves, you know, you know, not Penalized personality, you know what I mean?
- [46:40]
Analyst 1
Right.
- [46:40]
Cube
And so I think people, you know, love that. Fans want that, that's what's missing in some ways in, in the other professional league. And so they can come in and do his, you know, last, you know, go around the country in the Big Three. It's gonna be a fun summer. But, you know, we also got other players. That's great too. So, you know, now we're in cities now, you know, we got a team in la, team in Dallas, a team in Houston, Chicago, Detroit, Boston and the DMV and Miami. So it's going to be interesting to unlock those fan bases and start to grow the Big Three from that model.
- [47:35]
Analyst 2
What made you decide to come up with the Big Three? You're sitting around, I mean, look, you're busy in Hollywood, you back to doing music. And I think now, Cube, you back more into music now than you've ever been. Maybe you've taken a break from the acting thing from writing. I know you got it. We're going to get this a little later about the Friday, the last install of Friday, probably sitting down writing that you DJ poof. But in this situation, what made you decide to come up with the Big Three?
- [48:03]
Cube
I'm a fan. And after the finals, NBA Finals, man, I would hibernate until football season started. I mean, seriously, for people who love basketball and love football, those dog days of summer just got, you know, it was just brutal. And so I knew it was a lot of fans out there like me who wanted something, a real season. Could we fit a real season into that window between the NBA Finals and the start of the regular season in football? And so, you know, there was a great window and three on three was sitting there kind of dormant. You know, it's kind of the, the little cousin of five on five. And so, yeah, I said, you know, why haven't it been professionalized? And it was no good reasons. I looked at what Fever was doing and I said, hey, we could do better than that to professionalize the sport. And we came up with great wrinkles like the four point circles and boring the fire and you know, first to 50 win. No, no game clock but the shot clock. So the games are fast, they fun and it's what basketball should be. And, and so, you know, we, we put all the great ingredients into it and it was a great idea and we had the, the connections and the people to make it come true. And hall of famers had blessed us. George Girvin, Dr. J, Clyde Drexler, Rick Barry, you know, these guys bless the league and say this something they want to be a part of. And, and so I knew if the hall of Famers was into it, I was on to something because they wouldn't get behind something that wasn't pure.
- [50:05]
Analyst 3
Yeah.
- [50:06]
Cube
And so, you know, that's, that's, that's the, the way it started and it really happened. After I seen Kobe's last game, I was, I was kind of upset that I couldn't see him play no more. And I said, man, why can't he play? And then I just was like, well, maybe it's just the 82 games, because if you could score 60 points in, in a damn game, you can play. I don't give a damn. You know how old you are. You know what I'm saying? You. So then I said, okay, well, then, you know, what if it was half court? What if it was, you know, 10 weeks? You know, it was first to 50 win, and it was kind of a sprint and not, you know, such a long marathon or a long grind, and you get a week to recover. You know, I just tried to put all the good ingredients in to make sure players were. That was at their best. I kind of. We kind of looked at the NFL model, you know, an important game once a week, and, you know, you use the week to get your body right and you come out and you give 1000%.
- [51:18]
Analyst 2
Joker becomes the third player to average a triple double during the season. He joins his teammate, Russell Westbrook, Oscar Robinson. Oscar Robinson and Russ are the only ones to average a 30 point triple double. Jokic's finish point, two points short of that, he averaged 29.8 points per game, 12.8 rebounds per game, 10.3 assists per game, and average what, 1.2 steal, 1.8 steals per game, which was tied for second. Dyson Daniels led the league with 3.0 assists per game. Jokic had more triple doubles this season, 34, than any three players in the league combined. No other players else entered Friday with more than 10 this season. I think LeBron had exactly 10 correct. So that just goes to show you just how dominant Yoke was.
- [52:11]
Analyst 3
Very, very. Hey, I got a question. As dominant as he is, right? Being that his game isn't based on explosion and being quick and playing above the rim, how long can he keep this up?
- [52:26]
Analyst 2
As long as he want to. It's been reported he's about to sign a three year, $212 million extension in the off season, which is the supermax, which is the most a guy can sign for, which is that $70 million per year extension which Lucas was going to be entitled to this offseason. So.
- [52:43]
Analyst 3
Right.
- [52:45]
Analyst 2
Because it's not a lot of pounding. It's not a lot of up and down.
- [52:51]
Analyst 3
Right. Another eight years consistency, consistently doing this.
- [52:58]
Analyst 2
He got this as long as his mind stays sharp. But you got to realize those type players are not like American players.
- [53:05]
Analyst 3
Right.
- [53:06]
Analyst 2
They. It's not the end all. Be all of them. You hear them talking. He wants to get back to his horses. He wants to get back to his native land. He wants to be with his family. That's. That's what he wants to do. I'm not saying he doesn't take the game serious. He takes the game. You don't become this good. I don't care how talented you are. Yeah. Be this dominant without taking the game serious, without putting the work in. And that was the fact. I mean, people talk about Luka, Luca put the work in. I think that the thing is with Luca is that you look at his body, he's never going to have a body like LeBron James. He's never going to have a body like Dwight Howard. Neither is Jokic. Yeah. That's not how. That's not their makeup. That's not their genetic makeup, Ocho. That's not how they're going to be built. European players, what European players you see built like that, got caps on their shoulders. Abbed up.
- [53:56]
Analyst 3
Right. You're right.
- [53:57]
Analyst 2
They got quad hamstring. Definite. That ain't what they are. Can you put the ball in the basket?
- [54:06]
Analyst 3
Absolutely. Absolutely.
- [54:10]
Analyst 2
He had a phenomenal season. But Shay, Shay, Shay should win the mvp. He's earned that. He's been. I mean, all those consecutive 20 point games, all those. He led the league in 50 point games. Led the league in 40 point games, 30 point games, 20 point games. He's been sensational. And they have the best record in the NBA. Oh, he got one other. Yeah, yeah. Giannis had 11, LeBron has 10. So LeBron finished second, third, triple doubles. But Jokic was far, far, far, far, far, far ahead. Ahead, ahead of everybody with those triple doubles. But it's going to be a very interesting matchup because there's a big body that can bang with him. But here's the thing. Luke's going to have to be extremely careful because he can get him in foul trouble because Jokic had all those moves, those ups and unders and doopsy doop. So it's going to be very, very interesting to see how this thing plays out. The volume.