Nightcap - Hour 1: Notre Dame wins Orange Bowl, Tyreek Hill backpedals, can Brady rebuild Raiders?

Summary

Club Shay Shay Podcast Episode Summary

Title: Nightcap - Hour 1: Notre Dame Wins Orange Bowl, Tyreek Hill Backpedals, Can Brady Rebuild Raiders?
Release Date: January 10, 2025
Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts, The Volume, and Shay Shay Media
Description: NFL legend Shannon Sharpe—3x Super Bowl champion and member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame—sits down with the biggest athletes, celebrities, and influencers to discuss their accomplishments, challenges, and everything in-between.

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1. Notre Dame's Victory in the Orange Bowl ([07:07] - [12:39])

Chad Ochocinco:
The episode kicks off with a celebratory discussion about Notre Dame's stunning 27-24 victory over Penn State in the Orange Bowl, secured by Mitch Jetter's clutch 41-yard field goal in the final seconds. Chad highlights the significance of this win, propelling Notre Dame into the national championship game for the first time since 1988.

Notable Quotes:

• "That's the type of game the committee was hoping for when they put it together. These are the kind of matchups that excite fans and players alike." ([07:16])

• "Notre Dame hasn't won a national championship since '88, and this victory has reignited that legacy." ([09:10])

2. Quarterback Limitations and Game Analysis ([10:10] - [16:56])

Chad and his guest delve into the performance of both quarterbacks in the Orange Bowl, discussing how their limitations impacted the game's outcome. They debate which quarterback errors were more detrimental, emphasizing the importance of decision-making over mere statistics like touchdown passes or total yards.

Notable Quotes:

• "When you look at stats, he threw for five touchdowns and 400 yards, but that late turnover was more costly than any other mistake." ([11:10])

• "One quarterback turning the ball over once can be more damaging than another throwing two interceptions." ([11:23])

3. Coach Marcus Freeman's Impact ([12:39] - [15:05])

The conversation shifts to Coach Marcus Freeman, praising his passionate coaching style and his ability to connect with players. Chad expresses admiration for Freeman's leadership, comparing him to renowned coaches like Tony Dungy and Lovey Smith, and speculates on his potential influence in future championship games.

Notable Quotes:

• "Marcus Freeman strikes me as the kind of coach players would run through a wall for. His passion is palpable." ([13:35])

• "He doesn't berate his players for mistakes; instead, he turns them into teachable moments." ([13:35])

4. Tyreek Hill's Controversial Situation ([26:30] - [43:47])

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to Tyreek Hill's recent performance and his relationship with the Dolphins. Chad and his guest analyze Hill's decision to refrain from returning to the game despite injuries, scrutinizing his commitment and the Dolphins' handling of his condition. They debate whether Hill's actions were professional or indicative of larger issues within the team.

Notable Quotes:

• "Tyreek Hill is still the most dangerous receiver in today's NFL, but his recent actions raise questions about his commitment." ([34:06])

• "If Tyreek chooses to prioritize his health over the game, it reflects more on the Dolphins' management than on him." ([37:16])

5. Raiders' Organizational Turmoil ([56:45] - [67:40])

Chad and his guest discuss the recent firing of Raiders' General Manager Tom Telesco and head coach Antonio Pierce. They explore the implications of these decisions on the team's future, emphasizing the critical need for a stable quarterback to rebuild the franchise. The conversation touches on the challenges the Raiders face in attracting top coaching talent without a solid quarterback foundation.

Notable Quotes:

• "Without a quarterback that can lead an offense effectively, the Raiders won't see much success, regardless of the coach." ([67:14])

• "The Raiders need to fix their quarterback situation before they can realistically compete in the AFC West." ([67:40])

6. NFL Playoff Sportsmanship Memo ([43:45] - [50:57])

The hosts address the NFL's recent memo emphasizing sportsmanship during the playoffs. They discuss the balance between maintaining the game's integrity and preserving its competitive spirit. The dialogue critiques the league's attempts to curb certain behaviors, arguing that some physicality is intrinsic to football and essential for its excitement.

Notable Quotes:

• "The NFL is trying to control the physicality of the game, but there's a fine line between sportsmanship and losing the essence of football." ([48:28])

• "Emotions will run high, but no amount of passion should lead to penalties that could determine the game's outcome." ([40:49])

7. Closing Remarks and Final Thoughts ([52:08] - [73:11])

As the episode wraps up, Chad and his guest recap the key discussions, reiterating Notre Dame's historic win, the uncertainties surrounding Tyreek Hill, and the Raiders' need for strategic changes. They also touch upon briefly heard topics like the Las Vegas Raiders' future prospects and upcoming NFL events.

Notable Quotes:

• "Notre Dame's journey to the national championship is a testament to their resilience and effective coaching." ([51:47])

• "The Raiders must prioritize finding a competent quarterback to build a competitive team around." ([67:40])

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Conclusion

This episode of "Club Shay Shay" offers an in-depth analysis of Notre Dame's impressive Orange Bowl win, the complexities surrounding Tyreek Hill's role with the Dolphins, and the strategic challenges facing the Las Vegas Raiders. Through candid conversations and expert insights, Chad Ochocinco provides listeners with a comprehensive understanding of these pivotal moments in the NFL landscape.

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[Chad Ochocinco]

Wow, wow, wow. Yeah, this might have been, I don't know. Oh, this one, this game, and maybe Texas, Arizona State have been the best two games thus far in the college football playoffs, easily. This is what you hope. This is what you hope for, Ocho. Yeah, all you wanted to come down to a couple of plays here, there, not these blowouts that we got in the first round, not what we got with Georgia and Notre Dame, but these are the type of games that when the committee put it together, they were hoping for. Maybe they hoped for it a little earlier, but they got into the semifinals. Hopefully we can get another one of these tomorrow night with Texas and Ohio State. We'll talk about that a little later. Ocho. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y'all know me, your favorite uncle, as you watch Notre Dame take down Penn State 2724 with a late field goal with about 10 seconds left in the ball game. And they win the ball game. The guy right there is Liberty City legend, Bengals Ring of Fame honoree, the Pro Bowler, the All Pro, that's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure make sure you guys hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit that like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Every subscriber counts. We thank you guys for the support that you've given us in 23, 24 and into 25, and hopefully you'll continue to support us because without you, there can be no us. Make sure you check out Shayballa portier. Let's celebrate 2025 as we take in 2024. Let's rejoice and make 2025 the best year yet. What better way to do that? With a bottle of Shea by La Portier. And if you cannot find it in a city or state near you, order it online. We'll ship it directly to you. And please, please Drake responsibly. Make sure you go follow my media company page on all of his platforms. That's Shay Shay Media. And my clothing company, 84. With 84 being spelled out. Our latest release just dropped. Last month we had T shirts, sweats, beanies, koozies and mugs. Quantities are limited, so please make sure you grab yours while supplies. Last ticket for, for the super bowl show in New Orleans is our first spring tour stop. Excuse me. And they're on sale now. The link is pinned at the top of the chat. It's February 6th in New Orleans at the Mahalia Jackson Theater. Be there. You don't want to miss it. We've got some big guests lined up and it's going to be very entertaining, like all of our live show are.

[Unnamed Guest]

I got a question.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes?

[Unnamed Guest]

I hate, I hate to be that one, you know, but I just want to know, can I get, can we get a guest? Can we get one guest name? Can we get something. Can we get like a hint? Like when movies, when movies are coming out, movies always have a trailer, and trailers are purposely to attract the viewing audience to want to go watch the movie. So can we get a hint on a guest? You know, for, for me, for, for Ocho be there. Oh, he gonna.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I hope so. You know what? I give you one guest. You know who gonna be? We got a special guest. Who that? You gonna announce something? Who that?

[Unnamed Guest]

Who that?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, hell. Oh, hell. R. Oh, come on. Come on, man.

[Unnamed Guest]

Come on. I, I, I don't know. I got. Listen, we might have to go over a little paperwork before we, before we do all that paperwork. We gotta do a little paperwork because.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Notre Dame wins the Orange bowl and advances to the national title game. Mitch Jetter kicked a 41 yard field goal in the Orange bowl in the final seconds to give Notre Dame a 27, 24 victory over Penn State and they will face the winner of the Texas Ohio State game. O Joe. Look, this game turned out to be very exciting considering the limitations of the quarterback. Yes, me personally, and this is not to try to disparage any one, but I think both quarterbacks are limited. Both quarterbacks have limitation that limit what we. But because both court, it wasn't like one quarterback was better than the other. And we got it lopsided because both of them was limited. We got a hell of a ball game. Bingo.

[Unnamed Guest]

Because of that. Listen, the game ended the way people. If you, if you travel, if you paid the amount of money you paid to come all the way to Miami, to the, to the Hard Rock Stadium to watch Notre Dame vs. Penn State. You got your money's worth. You got your money's worth. Absolutely. I know Penn State fans might be upset that they're going home, but the way the game came out and the. The announcers jinx. The announcer jinx. Oh, my goodness, the announcers jinx the quarterback for Penn State towards the end of the game. Because when the first thing they said soon as they got the ball back was he doesn't turn the ball over much and he hasn't all season long. And what you think the first goddamn thing he does when he goes back to throw pick interception, soon as the interception happened, I said, you know what? That's it right there. Notre Dame just has to make a few plays, get a few yards, get in field goal range for. Is it Ms. Jeter? Is that, Is that, Is that name this Jeter?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean, you know, like car, like Carmelita Jeter spells her name the same way, but it says Jeeter. He said Jeter like Derek Jeter. She says Jeter, so we'll go with Jeter. Let's go. Whatever.

[Unnamed Guest]

All right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What did they say? Because I don't hear the sound. So what did they say?

[Unnamed Guest]

I can't remember. I remember the mish part. I remember the mish part. But I know one thing. I don't know if he's married. I don't know if he has a girlfriend, but boy, look here, after making a game winning field goal like that, to take your school to the national championship for anything you want, anything you want in South Bend where you never got to pay ever. Oh, yeah, he good he for a thing again. And mind you, mind you, the kicking game, the Notre Dame kicking game was one of the worst in the. Is it fbs?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes.

[Unnamed Guest]

Yeah, they weren't that great at it, you know, despite the record, but congratulations to Notre Dame. Congratulations. What's. Oh, God. Is this one more person. Matter of fact, congratulations to Ryan Clark son, Marcus.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, I thought you gonna say Marcus Freeman.

[Unnamed Guest]

Marcus Freeman as well. Ryan Clark's son, also playing for no Dame. Congratulations to him as well. I'm excited. But I could tell you, I could tell you who they're gonna have to play already. I can tell you that right now. Ohio State.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Ohio State.

[Unnamed Guest]

Yeah, absolutely. Listen, as great as yours is, as great as Texas is, as good as that Texas defense is, they ain't going to be able to do nothing. The boys in Ohio State.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, we know when Ohio State plays, if Ohio State, if everybody plays their best, Ohio State's the best team.

[Unnamed Guest]

Absolutely.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But it doesn't matter. Are you going to play your best when it matters? Because we saw them lose to Michigan on their home field when they were three touchdown favorite. So anything can happen. Ocho. Look, and this is why I tell people this. Riley Leonard turned the ball over twice. Aller turned the ball over once. Which turnover was more costly?

[Unnamed Guest]

The one. The one that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's what I be trying to tell y'all when y'all look at stats. Oh, he threw for five touchdowns. Oh, he threw 400 yards. But he had a turnover late in the ball game.

[Unnamed Guest]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You see the difference and it costs. You see the difference. One guy had two, the other guy had one. But the guy that turned the ball over one time, his turnover was more costly than the guy that turned it over twice. And so that's why you watch the ball game and look at the ball game. I'm watching these. And I tweeted earlier, I said, bro, woo. These quarterbacks leave a lot to be desired. I mean, they just sailing the ball. I'm like, damn. I'm like, woo. But I thought Notre Dame got away from the run game early in the first half. They got away from the run game, Ocho. But if you see the way they started the guy, the second half. Run, run, run pass. Run, run, touchdown. Let's get back to what we do. Listen, bro, y'all ain't got Cam Ward. Y'all don't have Shador Sanders. Those guys are not just drop back, throw the ball all over the field. They're not capable of that. And Allah, Lord have mercy, he talking about, well, I'm coming back to school. You should. As a matter of fact, you should ask, can you come back for two more years? And after next year, file for a medical red shirt so you can come back again. Good boy. Who, Ocho? I mean, they ran the ball 42 times for 204 yards. Great, great. You can live. Hey, I can live with that. Almost five yards.

[Unnamed Guest]

On any day. On any day.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Woo wee. But and I. Look, Ocho, look, it was a situation. I wish these guys could have met up for the national championship, so that way we would assure it's kind of like Tony Dungy and Lovey Smith when they met in the Super Bowl. In one way, we were going to get a black coach, the first black coach as a Super bowl champ. We go get that one way or another. I look at Marcus Freeman. Marcus Freeman looks like a guy that I would enjoy playing for. Yeah, he looks like obviously he knows what the hell he's doing, but he has that passion. I see the passion in which he coach with when his guys do something good. And even when they make a mistake, he's not by Brown beating them. He's not in their face. It's a teachable moment for him. He strikes me as a guy that I would really love to play for. Not that I say I wouldn't love to play for Dre Franklin, but he's a little bit more calm, a little bit more stoic. But I love. I love the passion in which Marcus Freeman coaches. Yeah.

[Unnamed Guest]

Marcus Freeman is the kind of coach that would resonate with the players a lot. You can tell they can relate to him. The passion, the aura, the energy that he has, the energy that he coaches with. He reminds me of a very, very young Pete Count. If you ever watch Pete Count on the sidelines, the way he interacts and he's energetic with the players as well. There are a few coaches that are like that in the NFL and at the collegiate level, but it's one of those that the players will love. And you know what? If you have to play for him, he's the type of coach you'll run through a wall for.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Exactly.

[Unnamed Guest]

That's exactly what you got tonight. And I think that's one of the reasons why Notre Dame are in the national championship, because it all starts not only from the top, but it starts from the coach first. It starts from the coach first, and it trickles into your players, your coaching staff and everybody else. So goddamn congratulations on Notre Dame. They haven't won a national championship. What, since the 50s?

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, 88.

[Unnamed Guest]

88. Oh, matter of fact, 88 was with.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Lou Holtz, Tony Rice.

[Unnamed Guest]

Yeah, yeah, but the goddamn option, boy, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, but it was. It was. It was. It was a great ball game. Noted. Notre Dame know today. You know what I like the best? Is that, you know, and. And I'm somebody. Brian Kelly, about to catch a straight. Because he always does this. He always gets his team there and he leaves in the middle. He did it to Cincinnati. He took the Notre Dame job. He didn't know the name. He ended up taking the LSU job.

[Unnamed Guest]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I would like to See him win it just for that fact, right? Ah, Brian Kelly, you. He did something that you couldn't do. Yeah, yeah, I'm petty, I'm petty like that, Ocho. But I like Marcus Freeman. He got the job. I think the, the president, I don't think they have. I don't know if they have an athletic director, but I think this president, Jack Swarbrick. Hey, this is our guy, right? This is our guy. It wasn't all that old hullabaloo. Make the man jump through hoops. Yeah, he loved what he saw. He saw him on campus every day. He reinstituted where the guys, they go to Mass before they go to the game, Ocho. And when they leave Mass, they go directly to the stadium. You know who cut it out? I ain't gonna call his name. Ryan Kelly. He cut it out, but Marcus Freeman reinstituted it. And they have masks on the road and so forth and so on. But I really like Marcus Freeman. I've never met the man, but I just watch him on the sideline. I watch his mannerism. I said, yeah, 18, 18 year old Shannon Sharp could definitely go play for him. Absolutely. I love the passion, I love in which what he played, what he stands for and how his players really, really, really, really like him. And it's like I said, it's not that I don't like James Franklin, because I like James Franklin. Had he not. I just hate the situation. I would have liked to see these guys in the national championship game, but unfortunately it worked out the way it did. Penn State had a really good season, but that quarterback is gonna have to get exponentially better if they're going to get all the way to the top if they want to go all the way. Because your quarterback's going to have to make plays on Jo. It just, it just have to. And you see Riley Leonard made a couple of throws late in the ball game. Yeah, Allen didn't make enough.

[Unnamed Guest]

Listen, it all comes down to his decision making, coach. That's all, that's all it come down to.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And he should have had two interceptions. They call that PI. That ball was so woeful. He underthrown OO in the end.

[Unnamed Guest]

Yeah, but off the line he, he.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, I ain't, I ain't talking about that. They called a PI on that one. I'm talking about when he was trying to hit his tight end and it was on the throne and dude intercepted it and they called PI on that. Yeah, well, he threw three interceptions, but that was because he held it. And even on that long. But this was a good game. O. I did not expect this game to be this good. Looking at the quarterback play and the limited. How limited it was. But I was in the game, I was like, bro, you see all that inside pressure? Run a bubble screen. Yeah. Because you got one on one. You get a block, all you want to do is get in field goal range. Right. But you hit this bubble screen, don't show you miss a tackle, you to the house.

[Unnamed Guest]

Yeah. You know, I was saying it looked like Notre Dame almost didn't have an answer for the pressure that Penn State was putting on at the end of the game.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They did because they got. Because the thing is, I mean, they were getting. He was fooling them. They thought they was going to come with pressure. They come with a four man rush to get home.

[Unnamed Guest]

Yeah. That was about to say they use home with a three man rush. They can. Using him. They got the backers. The backers in the goddamn A gap. Like they coming, but they not coming. So I don't.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And they break a little bit more.

[Unnamed Guest]

Difficult than it should be.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What they call it mugging. They walk the guys up in the middle and you think inside pressure's coming, but they bring edge pressure. It's still four men, but you think those two coming. They're not coming. They're bailing out. And the two outside guys. But Leonard doesn't really have any feel. I'm like, bro, you don't feel the guy inside and you step right up and go. And Abdul Carter side. I'm like, you got to be able to feel that. The really good ones, they feel it.

[Unnamed Guest]

Listen, Abdul Carter, man, listen.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, boy.

[Unnamed Guest]

Young bull gonna be special, boy. It's something. It's something about the.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, if you wear that number, you wear that number, you gotta be special. Listen.

[Unnamed Guest]

It's something about the defensive ends that come out of Penn State that we. The number 11 special, he's special. He showed up the party. I'm mad that his plate wasn't warranted with a W behind it, but he gonna be nice.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes. Now he's gonna have to work on a counter move because right now all he got is that underarm rip.

[Unnamed Guest]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

If you notice Ocho, what he do. Underarm rip.

[Unnamed Guest]

Every time.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Underarm rip. Now he's gonna have to work on the counter. Go with the bull, go with the fa. Come, come, hit him with the Dwight Freedy. Hey, hit him with the Dwight free. Hit the inside shoulder spin and get on.

[Unnamed Guest]

Come, come. Multiple things that he could do. Obviously playing the deepest in position. I'm not the defense end, but I understand there are multi. A multitude of things you can do coming off the edge. You can set him outside and bring them back in. You can set him inside and bring them back out. You can rush, you can rip inside. You could, you could spin, you, you could come high, you could come low and spin off SWAT that it's. Hey, yeah, listen, it's so many things you can do, you can have in your arm.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But they say these hurt. They say he's dealing with some injuries. Because if you look at it, when he came, he the one driver that came at the second half, he missed. He missed a lot of the plays and they went right down the field. And when he was on the field. Cause he was hell, right. His first step, quick. Oh, he could jump off the ball. And that's what those guys you look at Bar bar wore number 11. You look at Michael Parsons, he wore number 11. Those guys really get out the. Hey, their first step. And that's what you need to have that initial quickness to get to the edge. And then once you get the edge and he can be in, that's what you got to have. You got to have that pliability. Guys that can be in. You look at a Von Miller, you look at a Derek Thomas, you look at a TJ Watt, you look at Michael Parsons, you look, guys, even Miles Garrett at his side can bend. Bruce go back in the studies. I mean, Bruce damn near be parallel to the ground at 280 pounds.

[Unnamed Guest]

He's strong as hell now.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, but I, I like, I like the kid. He's gonna be, he's gonna be a high draft pick. He, he ain't getting outside the top 10.

[Unnamed Guest]

He might not get out of top five. Honestly.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He might not.

[Unnamed Guest]

He might not get out of the top five.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It all depends on who's drafted in that spot. Does somebody fall in love with him and move up Right, right, right.

[Unnamed Guest]

And go grab him?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Huh? Yeah. But you know teams all, all things been equal. You want the quarterback.

[Unnamed Guest]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You want that guy. That's the guy that's going to touch it every time. That's the guy that's going to produce your points.

[Unnamed Guest]

It's only two of them now. True. It's only two of them. It ain't that many to go around, especially in this draft that are of quality that you can know from franchise quarterbacks.

[Chad Ochocinco]

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[Chad Ochocinco]

I love the tight end from Penn State, Warren. Yeah, I see why, I see why he won the the, the Mackie Award.

[Unnamed Guest]

Oh yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

A nation stop tight end.

[Unnamed Guest]

He's nice.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He's big. He can run. Now the one thing we know about Notre Dame, they gonna keep them some big ass tight ends that can run and catch. Oh yeah, you know they, they. I don't know where they get. Hey, can you run? Can you catch? You gonna play tight end? Go to Notre Dame. They keep them. Okay, I'm talking about Six, five, six. I'm. Damn.

[Unnamed Guest]

Yeah, listen, listen. When you think about university, I mean, tight end university, as opposed to the moniker that LSU has been.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Been.

[Unnamed Guest]

Has garnered, wide receiver is either Iowa or Notre Dame.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Notre Dame. Yep, yep.

[Unnamed Guest]

I would know. There's something about them in producing tight ends that always fare with Midwest next level.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They get them corn. They get them cornfield boys working on the farm, huh? They don't care. They don't care enough about the cold. They. Hey, but I. I like. I like them. I like the. I like the Ty Water, The. The tight end for Penn State. Got great hands, got great kick, got great runability. He got. He got decent hips. And that's what I look for when I look at a tight end. I'm looking at his hips. Can he dip his hips? Can he drop his hips?

[Unnamed Guest]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

If you can drop his hip, he can play. He can move that way. He's fluid. And all the tight ends, you look at them, most of them are big now, and they're. Look, obviously they're not going to be able to drop their hips like I could, because, hell, I played wide receiver and I was only 228 pounds. But talk. They can drop their hips. They can drop their hips well enough at 245, 250. Those guys are huge, man. They're looking at. I mean, I'm looking at these dudes, I'm like, what the hell, right? But they can move. You look at Hawkinson, you look at Kittle, you look at Kelsey, you look at McBride, you look at Laporta, you look at Ingram, all these guys, big guys. 6, 3, 6, 4, 6, 5, 2, 45, 255, 260, can run, can drop their hips.

[Unnamed Guest]

How big is Brock Bowers?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Brock bowers probably about 6, 3, 6, 4. About 245, 250.

[Unnamed Guest]

So all of them big like that?

[Chad Ochocinco]

All of them, yes. Yes. Oh, I'm the last of a dying breed. You're not gonna see more tight ends like Kevin Sharp. Six two, 228 pounds. Clear that position, right, bro. You got to think about it. DK Metcalf, bigger than me. Julio was bigger than me. Tio would be, bro. I'll say it, bro.

[Unnamed Guest]

Hey, so I got a question. At 5, I'm gonna call you a hybrid. I'm call you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I would.

[Unnamed Guest]

From the outside and outside.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Guest]

What did you do on running plays? How did they hide you?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, most of the time I was backside.

[Unnamed Guest]

Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Well, that gives it away for the defense every time so if they know your backside, they know the play coming from.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But see, that's what I want you to do. See, I want you to be worried about trying to get a chip on me to keep me from getting down on the pay quack. Because back then, a lot of times if you played a seven, you played a nine or a seven, right? You know, hey, give him a. Give him a. A chuck on the way out. Get off. We don't want him to free release to eat up our linebacker, eat up our safety, right? Well, you thinking about that now? I done got inside and cut you off. Not td Hit the hole.

[Unnamed Guest]

Okay, I see. Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

All my job. See, my job wasn't to dominate and push you way five yards down the scrimmage, right? All I needed to do was get TD to the line of scrimmage, right? That's it. My job was complete.

[Unnamed Guest]

Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

My job is complete. Now don't. Hey, don't let the sides fool you now. I don't tie the lot up with a package. God. Take it. Hey, Ocho, get him off me. I don't know. I don't tied him up with a boat o joke. Get him off me. Get him off me. Yeah, but this was a good game. Mocho Aller was 1223 for 139 and one score. Notre Dame was dealing with the flu. I think they had an outbreak of the flu over the last couple of days that permeated the locker room. But they were able to overcome that. Congratulations to the Fighting Irish. 1411 win away from doing something they haven't done since 88, 37 years. Win the national championship. Penn State, Great season. Finished 1331 win away from advancing to the national championship game. But it was not to be. The night belonged to the Irish of Notre Dame. Congratulations Marcus Freeman and the man. And Notre Dame as you move on 2724 with a victory over Penn State. Ocho Tyreek Hill's agent.

[Unnamed Guest]

That was my agent too. Huh?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay. Said the wide receivers committed to the Dolphins despite post game comments. Tyreek reportedly met with Dolphins general manager Chris Greer and head coach Mike McDaniel earlier this week. And Rosenhaus believes his client remains faithful to the club. Excuse me. I think at the end of the day he's committed to this Dolphins football team. He had an excellent meeting with Chris Greer and Mike McDaniel. I believe that Tyreek is a great asset to the Dolphins and I think he's. He's the least guy that the people should be worried about this for this Organization. They have many more worries. Tyreek Hill is not one of them. Right. All I know. Look, he mentioned this about the broken wrist and all that. All I know is this. They asked Tyreek to go into Gay. If we believe. If we are to believe what Mike McDaniel said. He asked Tyreek to go in the game in the fourth quarter, they said. Tyreek said he was unavailable. It was brought to Mike McDaniel. It's not a new injury. Now, he said he had a broke wrist. Blah, blah, blah. Okay, fine. But at the thing, if you started the game with that, you can't leave him high and dry. There was a sound, wasn't there? A sound that Waddle asked Reef, are you okay? And what did Tyreek say? Yeah, yeah. It ain't a good look, Ojo.

[Unnamed Guest]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

There is no different. And I said this before. There's no different than what AB did in that very stadium. There's no different than what Campbell did for the 49ers. And then. And then to exacerbate, to make matters worse, this man put a. Change his profile, put his face on AB and we're supposed to say, like, oh, there's nothing wrong.

[Unnamed Guest]

No, I mean, listen, there's something wrong. There's something wrong. Listen, where there's smoke, there's fire. Always. No matter what Drew Rosenhaus says. You know, no matter. And listen, Cheetah said what he wanted to say. There were frustrations. What led to that? Not going back into the game. We would never know the true answer. We'll never know the true answer. Listen, I can sit back. I can sit here and call him and be like, hey, brother, what happened? What really happened? Why didn't you go back into the game? What was wrong? Were you tired of getting cardio? Were you tired of the fact that they weren't able to get to the ball? You know, are you upset that, you know, the season, what isn't what it should have been for you? Obviously. Obviously, with Tour's injuries early in the season and then not having the time, the adequate time, or getting the opportunity needed once he came back in the game to get your numbers, where they should be for the type of player that you are. Listen, Reed, if you see this, I mean, it's Cheetah. Justin Jefferson had a good season this year. Jamar Chase had a phenomenal, obviously, Triple Crown winner this year. Tyreek is still the best receiver in the NFL. I don't want people to forget that. I don't want you to forgive. Now, I know what we see what have you done for me lately? Obviously, there are reasons why his season didn't go the way it did this year. There's reasons why. We understand. We understand that. But Cheetah is still the most dangerous receiver in today's NFL. I don't know people in the chat to ever forget that because of the down. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I believe he's the most dangerous, but I believe as far as total receiver. Oh, I think chasing. I think Chase and Jefferson.

[Unnamed Guest]

Listen, there's more than one way to skin a cat, right?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes, absolutely.

[Unnamed Guest]

But listen, Chase is scary.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Justin Jefferson, you talk about catfish, though, right?

[Unnamed Guest]

Huh?

[Chad Ochocinco]

You talk about skin a catfish, right?

[Unnamed Guest]

Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay. Okay. I want to kill, but I don't want Peter to come in here and try to shut us down.

[Unnamed Guest]

Oh, my bad. Hey. What? I'm just saying, from. From an instance of who you don't want to face, who you don't want, who you don't want to touch the ball and have any kind of crease or any kind of angle. And listen, you might. Well, the fat lady might well start singing. That will.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right.

[Unnamed Guest]

That will always be Tyreek. I don't want people to lose sight of how great Tyreek Hill is because of a down season. I don't know what his frustrations were. I would love to. To. To. To be.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Is it money? I mean, because I don't know if he. Does he have any more guaranteed money on that contract? That's the thing, Ocho. Because Ocho, you can't complain. You went for the money. And in nobody's mind did they ever think that Tua was better than Mahomes. Now, you got the money. You secured your family. Now, if you blend through, 72 million guarantee, probably about. Probably made like $90 million over the last four years. 100 million last four years. If you blow through that. Hey, I don't know what to tell your cho.

[Unnamed Guest]

Nah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But you cannot complain. Oh, I want to win. Really? You left the. Over the last five years, who's won more games than the Kansas City Chiefs? Ocho, if it's about winning. Oh, I. Man, you know, I ain't used to this.

[Unnamed Guest]

Listen, wait a minute now. We have to understand why he left the Chiefs now. Based on what? Based on who Tyreek was and what he was bringing to the table. They weren't paying him what he was worth. So I understand why he left to go to the Dolphins. You know, you went to Ocho. And not only that, he didn't Miss a goddamn beat in any category as a receiver. He didn't miss a beat. Remember what Tyreek did? He did just last year.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes, he has 1700 yards.

[Unnamed Guest]

Yeah. The only reason things weren't the same this year is because of the injuries to tua. You know, there's a reason why. There's a reason why quarterbacks, when you have a backup, there's a reason why the backup is the backup. There's a reason.

[Chad Ochocinco]

There's a reason why. But you gotta be the same no matter what, right? You got to show up with your hard hat and your lunch pail regardless. Because now it seems like Tyreek's a front runner when things are going good, he's there. Now, why we didn't.

[Unnamed Guest]

Hold on.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Why we didn't hear nothing about no broker risk all year long. Let me ask you this.

[Unnamed Guest]

Wait a minute, wait a minute. Remember there were a few games where he was on the injured. The injury list due to his wrist? You know, he could. He could have gotten surgery, but it was messed up. But he kept playing. He just had. He had to take that real heavy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Let me ask you a question. If Tyreek makes the Pro bowl and he gets 1400 yards, do we hear anything about this wrist? Yes or no?

[Unnamed Guest]

No, sir.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So why are we hearing about it now?

[Unnamed Guest]

Because Drew is trying to give him.

[Chad Ochocinco]

A cop out that risk. His leg wasn't broken.

[Unnamed Guest]

Nah. No, I'm. Let's.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Look, Ocho, babe, you know how I am.

[Unnamed Guest]

I know, I know, I know. I know you are. But what I'm not going to do is I'm not going to make excuses. I'm not going to do that. But I'm just saying.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Thank you. I appreciate it.

[Unnamed Guest]

He did have a wrist injury. They brought it up a few times earlier in the season. I don't know if he landed wrong and did something. I think he needed surgery. But he opted out of getting surgery and decided just to tape it up very, very heavy and continue playing. That's all. That's all.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, damn. I mean it look like. Look at the first game he had that game winning touchdown. Did he call. Remember that? What about them 100 yard games that he had? I. I couldn't tell. Could you tell his wrist was hurting. He looked like Cheetah. All I'm saying is, guys, look, we've both been there. I've been there. You know, hey, John goes down and hey, put y'all back up.

[Unnamed Guest]

I don't mean it to be disrespectful. Who was y'all back up.

[Chad Ochocinco]

My first two years, it was Kubiak. Gary Kubiak. Yeah.

[Unnamed Guest]

Hey, Gabe. Hey, cool coming.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Cool coming to feed your boy? Hell, cool would feed me more than. Than seven would. Hey, cool coming. That thing say, hey, Green, let's go get this money.

[Unnamed Guest]

Right, Right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay. Let's go get it.

[Unnamed Guest]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And then we had Tommy Maddox and Sean Moore.

[Unnamed Guest]

Tommy Maddox from the Steelers?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Bubby. Yeah. No, Hugh was in New England. Bubby was our backup in. In 98.

[Unnamed Guest]

Bubby.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Bubby Bristol. Bubby Bristol.

[Unnamed Guest]

Yeah. Yeah, that's dope, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. But, yeah, look, I understand. It is tough playing with the backup. It is. Yeah, man, it absolutely is. In 2000, I mean, we had, uh. Uh, who the. Tony Banks without starter. Trent without backup. Oh, shoot.

[Unnamed Guest]

Tony Banks from the Ravens?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, he was. He originally went to San Francisco. Went to the Rams. Right. He's with the Rams out of Michigan State. Second round draft pick with the Ravens. Had a. Had a good season. They gave him some money. 2000. He was our starter. Trent. They signed Trent as a free agent to be a backup. Trent came in there. Hey. The thing was, Trent, like, hey, you get open, I'm gonna give you the rock. Yeah, well, that's all I needed to hear. Hell, I was open. A lot of times I didn't get the rock.

[Unnamed Guest]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You tell me I'm gonna get open, I'm gonna get open. But it is tough, Ocho, but at the end of the day, you gotta be professional.

[Unnamed Guest]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No matter what the circumstances are. And look, think about it, Ocho. When you catch for 1800 yards like Tyreek had last year, there are a lot of mofos out there getting cardio. And when they feeding the ball. When they feeding the ball to reach and a whole lot of balls to go around. When you let somebody catch that many balls for that many yards and you got waddle. So, you know, the third and the fourth, you out of gas. Ojo, when you got those two and they going for 200 catches and 3,500 yards. 3,000. 3,500 yards.

[Unnamed Guest]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean, how many balls you think you gonna get?

[Unnamed Guest]

Well, obviously, you got to remember now, you know, wherever the money at, that's where the ball goes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes.

[Unnamed Guest]

Come on, now. You know, we paying you a hefty salary, obviously, but so the ball is going to be funneled to the money, to the high man, to the. To the high point. That mean that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's just. That's just what you said. And so what's the expectation of you, the high man? Oh, you show up to work and be professional all the time, no matter what. The more you make is, the more the guys that they expect you to show up.

[Unnamed Guest]

Yeah, yeah. But now, that's all. Listen, and you got to remember, what do you expect from the high man? What does the high man expect from you? Well, I expect even if my quarterback goes down and I have the backup, I still expect you to follow that ball in front of that offense through me. Because there's certain things I tried to tell you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You the one that talk about. Oh, man. Hey, Huntley. Who? Huntley. I said Ocho.

[Unnamed Guest]

Oh, don't talk about. Don't talk about Snoop like that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I ain't talking about it, but I'm just saying he'll back. You just said he's a backup for a reason. With the backup cover. You just said.

[Unnamed Guest]

No, I'm not. I wasn't. I didn't say any names. I'm saying specifically across the league, there are 32 teams and there's a starter. The starter is the starter for the reason. For a reason, and the backup is the backup.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Sam Darnold was a backup.

[Unnamed Guest]

Oh, but listen, sometimes you put him back up in the right circumstance like that. You could put. Hey, listen, you could put Mother Teresa on the Vikings with Addison Naylor and goddamn Justin Jefferson, and they gonna get it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah. And you still got Hawkinson.

[Unnamed Guest]

Hawkinson. Oh, you gonna get it done. Now that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Guest]

Now, certain circumstances, you know, circumstance matters. Now we talk about Batman.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes, absolutely.

[Unnamed Guest]

Absolutely.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But I just. Look, look, I'm not saying that there wasn't anything wrong with Tariq, but I just believe you must. You must maintain a certain level of profession.

[Unnamed Guest]

Even if things aren't going well in.

[Chad Ochocinco]

The fourth quarter, you can't opt out, bro. You got. Oh, there have been a lot of times, oh, we getting our eyes beat out and I'm like, man, why we in here, man? We can't come back. Ain't no. Ain't no 20, ain't no 20. One point touchdown with six minutes to go. Hey, but, hey, ain't no. Ain't no faking no injury, right? Ain't getting no. Hey, you know, hey, my hand, my elbow, my shoulder. Ain't none of that. Hey, I was out there from the beginning when we were sucking. I would ride it all the way to the end. We gonna suck all the way through the fourth quarter. We gonna suck together. I can't leave him out there like that. I can't, Ojo.

[Unnamed Guest]

I can't.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You right, but we'll see what happened. What they. What they. What they decide what's going to happen with Tyreek. I think Tyreek wants to go. I think Tyreek wants to move.

[Unnamed Guest]

Yeah, yeah. Listen.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Because you can't depend on. You can't depend. I don't know. But I don't know what he was thinking. Ocho, you have a guy that has an injury history, an injury history as a player.

[Unnamed Guest]

You're not thinking about that. You sitting on the outside. Shouldn't you on the outside, looking in as a part of the media now and seeing it from a different lens, seeing it from a different perspective. You know, Tyreek is not looking at that. I'm looking at what I was able to do with TUA last year. So what am I doing? I'm expecting to build on what I did last year and continue that same tradition, that momentum going into the following season. And it started off like that. And then. Yes, pull goes down.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But. But Ocho, the man got injured before you got. The man was injured before you got there. The man came into the. Think about it. Ocho, the man came into the league with a repaired hip. He limped into the NFL. There's a great chance he gonna end up limping out of it. You. He limped into the season.

[Unnamed Guest]

He gotta say it like that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm just saying, Ocho, I'm just being real, Chad. I ain't paying y'all no attention. That's the way we talk. Yeah, we suck. We were sucking other teams. We were terrible. So I'll let y'all play them childish games. We suck. I wasn't gonna leave my teammates out there. We started sucking in the first quarter, we gonna suck the second, third, we gonna all be sucking together. That's the end of that. Ocho, check this out. The NFL sends a memo to teams about sportsmanship before the playoffs. Perry Fuel, the league's SVP of officiated administration, sent a memo to head coaches and general manager of teams in the postseason to reiterate the importance of sportsmanship in the game in the coming weeks. At this level of competition, emotions will run high, but no amount of emotion should give away to demeaning and offensive words, taunting and other non football acts. No one wants a penalty or player ejection to determine the outcome of the game.

[Unnamed Guest]

Man, forget that NFL memo, man. Forget what they listen. All teams, all players. I know y'all are going to see this. You're going to see this. Have fun. Enjoy the game. The chances of.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Don't y'all listen to Ocho. Hey, man, Ocho caused y'all to get a penalty.

[Unnamed Guest]

Let me finish. You ain't even let me finish.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Go ahead.

[Unnamed Guest]

You didn't even let me finish yet. Enjoy the game. Enjoy the moments. Have fun. Listen to the memo. Don't do anything that can cost your team a penalty.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But you say have fun, huh? Let me ask you a question. How many times they done sent the memo to let them know, stop pulling your shirt up like you got a gun. So how many times you think they done sent that memo out, Ocho?

[Unnamed Guest]

Hey, somebody pulled the shirt up like they got a gun.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Y'all saw, man. You saw what you call Rashid. You saw Xavier Worthy do that against Pittsburgh.

[Unnamed Guest]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. No, but I'm just saying, despite the memo, listen, don't take the fun away from the game. You know, the competitive nature of the game. That's why I just said have fun. Don't do anything to get yourself a penalty or get your team penalized. Outside of that, I understand. I understand. The NFL is all about control, you know, the integrity of the game. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's always about integrity. Until. Until the NFL finds a way to benefit from certain things and make money. But anyway, well, they was benefiting from.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Those hard hits, and then they got sued. It cost them a billion dollars. So they ain't gonna do. Let you do the hard hits no more. Ocho, come on, talk.

[Unnamed Guest]

Yeah, I get it. Let the elephant out the room. Let matter of fact turned over.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's the thing. Look, I get it. And there are a lot of times, man, do you know how many times we don't say the N word? You can't say the N word now, man.

[Unnamed Guest]

Hold on. Hold on now. Hold on, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, they'll throw a flag. They usually.

[Unnamed Guest]

If you throwing flags for that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They are.

[Unnamed Guest]

Wait, listen, them hanging.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They've been instructed to throw a flag when you say, boy. Hey, we don't say the N word. And the more and curse so much.

[Unnamed Guest]

Matter of fact, it's frowned upon. It's frowned upon, but it's a part of regular language and dialogue in the way we interact and talk. Yeah, it's normal. It's normal, you know, so I'm confused with their thinking of throwing a flag and just the way of the culture in general and how we converse sometimes, arguably sometimes talk trash to each other that you can't change.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But guess what, Ocho? When you get on Linear television, You can't say that. It's our culture to say it, but.

[Unnamed Guest]

You can't say it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So the NFL is saying, look, when you own this field, don't you say that word.

[Unnamed Guest]

Oh, man, but you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, I'm a big. Look, I've said it a thousand times. I done said mofo. I said, essel. I done said all that. Man, who you calling mofo? I ain't gonna beat you. The Mobo folks. I said, well, you that one. I don't need you to be anymore. But you that one. But it was different, right? Because back then they would head hunting. If you disrespect, if somebody felt that you disrespected them, they coming against you.

[Unnamed Guest]

Oh, they coming against you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah, for sure.

[Unnamed Guest]

Coming against you might not come.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know, you might.

[Unnamed Guest]

You might not get.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You stayed on your P's and Q. Ocho.

[Unnamed Guest]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Last year, the league issued a total of 419 fines for the regular season and postseason through Week 17. This year, they've already issued 484. That's a 1.17% increase. Now we ain't even got to the playoffs. We got wild card, division championship and the Super Bowl. So we still got four more weeks, right? You already know this thing gonna bite. This thing might be 550.

[Unnamed Guest]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

This thing might be 550, might be close to 600.

[Unnamed Guest]

Ocho, listen, there's certain things you can't take out of the game. You can have as many memos as you want to. You can talk until you read in the goddamn face the game of football is played a certain way. There's certain things you can't take out of it. You're already taking the physicality out of the game now. You're trying to take the culture and the way and the style in which 80% of the certain types of players are in there. The way they play it. There's only so much you can do, right? There's only so much you can do.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Look, some penalty is going to happen. As an offensive lineman, you're taught if you get beat tackling. Don't let that man hit your quarterback. Don't let that man hit your quarterback. Hey, dv, if you're beat, hey, don't you give up. No touchdown. Hey. Okay, if it's a spot. If it's a spot foul, it's a spot foul. We might get a. A. We might get a fumble, but we can't recover. Hey, they're gonna get a touchdown if you just give up. No PI. And I'm just. I'm just being honest with you.

[Unnamed Guest]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm not gonna listen, I'm not gonna. If you, If I get beat clean. Yeah. You're not going to hit my quarterback. I'm going to tackle you.

[Unnamed Guest]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I know they're going to throw a flag, but I'm okay with that. Right. Because guess what you didn't do? Hit my quarterback in the back and he fumbled the ball. Right. That's not going to happen. So you just have to understand certain penalties, you just got to accept a good job, son. That's the way to not let it hit. That's the way to not let our quarterback get hit.

[Unnamed Guest]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Some things are going to happen, you know, but you know, don't jump offside. It's the offside. Like it's third and three and they hard count you, you jump. Lord have mercy.

[Unnamed Guest]

Hell no.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Boy, if, if, if Braves were dynamite, you couldn't even blow your nose. I mean, sometimes, like, bro, what. What are you thinking? Yeah, but I was a. I was a notorious. Oh, I bet y. I got more false star printer than any titan. Well, I was getting out of there, Ojo. I'm getting up out of there. I'm getting up out of there. And it was never the block, right. You best believe. Oh, oh, it was a pass they shot. Damn right it was a pass. And I was about to be out the gate on you. Oh, yeah, for sure. Because I ain't waiting till the tub I hear, huh? I'm gone.

[Unnamed Guest]

You go.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, hey. Don't you say, hey alert. Oh, man, I'm gone, right? What you say that for? We ain't got no. We ain't got no check. Ain't got no check on that play right now. Let's go. But look you, you look. Like I said, guys, understand. Just don't do anything that's going to cost your team. That's the last thing you want. And you know that one play. But I guarantee you Penn State probably thinking, yeah, that interception at the. That play might have been cost us the game. Right? But it damn sure didn't help at all. It didn't help. I'm not gonna say it cost us the game, but it damn sure didn't help us win the game. So guys, just be smart. I know you want to celebrate. All your homeboys, your family, they might be in the stands, they might be watching back home. That's my homie, blah, blah, blah. But bro, don't you do anything that's going to cost your team. Yeah, that's all I'm saying.

[Unnamed Guest]

Definitely. That's why the first thing I said was y'all got to have fun, man. You know these moments, they don't come, they don't happen often. The chance of making the playoffs, unless you're with a certain type of team that you know always goes in there. Enjoy the moment man. Have fun. Just don't cost not only yourself, but don't cost your team. But again, you got to remain. You got to remain yourself and have have some fun out there.

[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Chad Ochocinco]

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[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Chad Ochocinco]

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[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Chad Ochocinco]

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[Chad Ochocinco]

Hard to install? No, it's easy. Even you could do it. Nice.

[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Chad Ochocinco]

For my mom too. You fly across the country to do the install? Nope.

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[Chad Ochocinco]

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[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Chad Ochocinco]

Look at you. Hall of Fame, son.

[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Unnamed Guest]

Oh.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Blinds.com is the goat. The goat shop blinds.com right now and get up to 40% off select styles plus a free professional measure and a 100% satisfaction guarantee. Save up to [e-mail] blinds.com rules and restrictions may apply. 4:13 Las Vegas Raiders are cleaning house just two days after the team fired head coach Antonio Pierce, the Raiders announced that they're fired general manager Tom Telesco. This marks the second time in the last 13 months that Telesco has been fired by an AFC west team. Telesco was fired by the Chargers after 11 years of service following a 6321 beatdown at the hands of the Raiders last December. They got beat 63. Damn. The Raiders then made the decision to hire Telesco last January and now firing him. Telescope long draft class Vegas were actually pretty impressive. Jackson, Powers Johnson and Del Mar glaze both started 14, had both had 14 starts apiece on the offensive line while 13. Number 13 overall pick Brock Bowles with the first year tight end that said it. Excuse me. Had the most receptions by a rookie in NFL history. He had 112 catches, four catches. Five catches short of an NFL record for the most catches by a tight end in a single season. Zach ertz has that record 116 when he played with the Eagles. But I was surprised that he stayed considering that you fired Antonio Pearson. Normally what happens, Ocho. Normally you clean house. You filed a head coach. You clean house.

[Unnamed Guest]

I mean obviously and might be a relationship. Might be some relationship. On why he stayed.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, he only stayed two extra days. They got him up out of there. This is very interesting because Tom is calling the game. Yeah. But he's also very, very involved with the decision making. With the decision making.

[Unnamed Guest]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Bless you.

[Unnamed Guest]

Thank you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Man, come here by a damn.

[Unnamed Guest]

I did. I said I chew.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't. Damn.

[Unnamed Guest]

My hand is over my mouth, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Give me some. Give me some lights on or something. Jordan, what you talking about?

[Unnamed Guest]

I said, I, I, I, I. I'm sneezing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I beg. I can scope up if I bit, man, y'all see that man sneezing and he cover his mouth. Oh, ain't no way I'm going up in that. Hey, germs just be hanging out on the wall. Oh, dude, no can do.

[Unnamed Guest]

I sneeze and I cover my mouth as I.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, you didn't. Hey, Chad, he ain't cover his mouth, did he?

[Unnamed Guest]

I said I chew.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Wait, what day you go, Chad? Y'all heard the chat. Y'all saw it, didn't it?

[Unnamed Guest]

Yeah, the chat saw me cover my mouth.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, listen, this man, wipe your camera lens off, man. I see chew all over camera.

[Unnamed Guest]

Nah, I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I got the air on him. Listen, it's 40 degrees outside, and then I got the AC on in the house by accident.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Whoo, man. Ocho.

[Unnamed Guest]

Where?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean, even when you're in private, right? You could, like, come, you know, like I just did.

[Unnamed Guest]

I squeezed into my hand.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, no, man. Then you go down, people, you quickly dap everybody up. Bring it in here. Oh, no.

[Unnamed Guest]

See, I don't know. I don't even dap people.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I would treat you like Covid. Would I ever treat you like Covid? That's but elbow.

[Unnamed Guest]

I don't dance up. I hug, people.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Nah.

[Unnamed Guest]

Oh, no hugger.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Covid, man. Matter of fact, you might have Ebola.

[Unnamed Guest]

Who you who?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Ebola.

[Unnamed Guest]

What's that?

[Chad Ochocinco]

They said a monkey got loose in Miami, had Ebola. The monkey bit you and the monkey died. So I don't know what you got. If the monkey got Ebola, he bite you and he die.

[Unnamed Guest]

Listen, if a monkey bit me, he died because I bit him back.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't play.

[Unnamed Guest]

I don't play with animals like that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But that's my point, so whatever. If he got Ebola and he bit you, you bit him back and he died. And ain't nothing happened to you. I don't know. What strand you got.

[Unnamed Guest]

I don't have. The only strand I got is I ain't the one to play with. That's the strand, okay? That's it right there. You bite me, you finna get bit back. That gonna feed any animal. Snakes, dogs, raccoons, everybody.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Where do you believe the Raiders should look for a head coach? Obviously, Coach Belichick signed with the University of North Carolina at the Tar Heels. He has a buyout June 1, of a million dollars. But if you were to leave now, it'll cost him 10 million, right. So, I mean, it's still a possibility. 10 million. I mean, hey, you get the. Hey, Raiders, y'all want me bad enough. I mean, considering Tampa gave up two first round of the game. 8 million in cash if you want. Hey, look, they got. Look, obviously the Raiders don't have the, the influx of cash. This is a mom and pop shop. So it's not. No, he's not littered with money. He doesn't have billions and billions of dollars like some of these other owners. The only thing that he operates is the Raiders. You know, a lot of these other owners, they have outside businesses. Jerry got, you know, gas company, he got this. And he got car dealerships in Brazil. Right. You got shot. Khan, who has car parts and all that stuff going on. So there are a lot of guys that have other things. Obviously, we know what the Walton Pier family have. That guy's worth 80 billion. Right. So $10 million to him ain't nothing. But that's a substantial amount of money considering that we still don't know what the arbitration is with, with John Gruden. John Gruden had three years on that deal, right? No, John Gruden had like six years on that deal. Six or seven years. He signed a 10 year deal with 100 million and he had like six, seven years. So he had 60 million. 60, 70 million. Arbitration is coming. Okay. They had a coach after him. They fired him. Oh, Josh McDaniels. So they got Josh McDaniels on the payroll. Okay. You just had AP. Yeah, AP had to sign at least a three year deal. So you got him on the payroll. So you still got a Damn near probably 80, $90 million in coaches that don't coach for you, Right?

[Unnamed Guest]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And I think earlier this year the NFL issued a memo about all this guaranteed money, coaches and players. They let Russ go. 30 plus million, right. Kirk Cousins. We're gonna see what's happening. We see a lot of coaches being and players being let go with substantial amount of guaranteed money still on the books. But the Raiders got to do. Look, the Raiders things are better when the Raiders are good. There are certain teams that, you know, you re the old, the old guard. The Steelers doing well. The Broncos all of a sudden come back. Yeah, you won't, you know, anytime. You got the great quarterback. You got Mahomes, you got Lamar, Josh Allen, you got golf. It's better when you have the. But the old guards, those fans show up. Steelers, they're going to show up in Baltimore. The Broncos, they show up. Teams like that, that Travel, the Packers, they show up and so. But the Raiders need to get this thing figured out. I mean, all these coaches that they've hired, they haven't been to the play. They went to the playoffs. Nah, they lost, y'all. Wasn't Derek Carr's last year. They went to the playoffs, they ended up losing. Losing to the Bengals. Yeah. I think the year y'all went to the Super Bowl.

[Unnamed Guest]

2021.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Was it 2021?

[Unnamed Guest]

Yeah, I believe so. But listen. Yeah, the job, the job. The job at the Raiders, I mean, it would be one that was sold off, sought after, if the quarterback situation was intact. It's not. It's up in the air. No disrespect to the quarterbacks that are there, but they're just not going to get it done. Players get coaches fired. Players get coaches fired. And if you don't have a quarterback at the helm that can work an offense that can at least give you a chance to compete week in and week out. I mean, you just. You get in the job just to get fired because you're going to be on a short leash, you know, and you can't say anything as a head coach. Well, how do you expect me to win when I don't have the tools in my toolbox to go out there, compete? And it all starts with having my Allen wrench. My Allen wrench is my quarterback. If I ain't got no goddamn Allen wrench, how the hell I'm supposed to fix the goddamn engine, you know? And that's what it starts with. So I'm not sure why even the Belichick would even want to come to the Raiders until that situation at the quarterback position is rectified. Now, I can win and I can play with this. Now, if I can, if I can find that centerpiece, I can build around that and then I can compete against the bet, especially in that division. Look, who in the division.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I mean, if you go look at the division, Mahomes, 29. So you got to deal with him another five to 10 years. You got Bo Nix, who's 24. You got to deal with him for another five to 10 years. You Got Justin Herbert, who's probably 25. You got to deal with him for another five to 10 years. So in order for you to compete, it's the same thing with Kansas. It's the same thing in the AFC North. You got Joe Burrow and you got Lamar. You gonna have to deal with those guys for the foreseeable future.

[Unnamed Guest]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And that's what you're dealing with in the NFC East. You got hurts and you got Jayden Daniels. Okay, Giants, y'all gonna have to figure it out. You got to get a quarterback because that, you know they're going to be. Look, they'll win more games than what they won last year. They just got to be consistent. That's got to stay healthy and not turn the ball over at the most inopportune time.

[Unnamed Guest]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But without a quarterback and you got a division that's quarterback centric and you don't have one, you're not winning.

[Unnamed Guest]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You're not winning that. You're not winning the AFC west without a damn good quarterback. Because you got to go through Mahomes, Herbert and Bo Nicks now. So that's three.

[Unnamed Guest]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And you're going to have to beat Mahomes. That's why they wanted to. I mean they probably won a division every year since 2015 and they going.

[Unnamed Guest]

To keep winning it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

As a matter of fact, they're the only team that's won the division since 2015 in that division. Cause they had Alex Smith for a year or two and then they got my homeboy and he had never lost the division. As a matter of fact, he's never not been in the AFC championship game since he's been a starter. So that's what you're up against if you're in a division with a quarterback century. That's why New England, nobody had a quarterback that could go toe to toe with Brady.

[Unnamed Guest]

No.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And, and, and when. What. What was that division that they had with Peyton when they was in the afc?

[Unnamed Guest]

If.

[Chad Ochocinco]

How you go if you don't. Can't go toe to toe with Peyton.

[Unnamed Guest]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

How you gonna win?

[Unnamed Guest]

Can't.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's why when Peyton goes to the AFC west, they didn't have a quarterback. I mean, Dillon Rivers was the only really quarterback, but he could not gun Peyton.

[Unnamed Guest]

Nah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So you gotta have a division and. I don't really know. Look, I was. As a matter of fact, I was just at the stadium Allegiance Stadium the other night. Nice stadium, Very modern, very up to date. I'm not going to be surprised if the super bowl is not back in Vegas in the next five years. Obviously, you see it's going to be in. In 28. It's going back to Sofi. Right. Also the Olympics is in so far. Also the World cup quarterfinal semifinals going to be in Sofi.

[Unnamed Guest]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So it's going to come back to Allegiant Stadium. But Raiders got to figure this thing out. They've Got to get a quarterback, and they've got to get a coach, and they got to give him more than a year or two, Ocho.

[Unnamed Guest]

Yeah, you have to. You have to because it takes time. I mean, NFL owners that have money, that have businesses outside of football, they know that in order to fix my business, one of the one things that I can do is throw money at it, right? The NFL don't work like that. You ain't just throwing money at coaches. You ain't throwing money at players and expecting changes to happen overnight. That's not the way the NFL works at all when it comes to businesses outside of football.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes, it is a business.

[Unnamed Guest]

Throwing money works.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It is a business, Ocho. And sometimes you can bring a new CEO. He has a different vision, right? And he's like, okay, instead of this, we're going to do this. We want to restructure some things. I don't give a damn who you bringing the head coach. If he ain't got no quarterback, he ain't doing diddly poop at all. I don't care.

[Unnamed Guest]

At all.

[Chad Ochocinco]

There's never been one that good to be able to overcome. I mean, obviously, you know, you look at Joe Gibbs. Joe Gibbs won three Super Bowls and none of his quarterbacks in the Pro Football hall of Fame. Bill Parcels, he's won two with none of his quarterbacks in the Pro Football hall of Fame. But you think about how many Super Bowls that they played. Most of the other quarterbacks in the Pro Football hall of Fame, Joe Flacco isn't in. Joe Flacco isn't in the hall of Fame. But for the most part, quarterbacks that win multiple. That win Super Bowls, they go to the hall of Fame, right? And their coach is in the hall of Fame. Parcels is in. Gibbs is in. Look at the coaches that's won Super Bowls for the most part, once they leave the game. Five years. Wait, maybe it's a couple of years. Obviously, you know, guys like Bud Grant. Excuse me, Coach. No, Coach Lombardi, Coach Shula. Guys like. That's one multiple. Oh, they. They wait. But some of the coaches, you know, you have to wait a little longer than others, but without a quarterback, you're not. You're not going anywhere. Ojo and the Raiders right now, they haven't had a quarterback. They had Derek Carr for whatever reason. Coach. Coach Gruden really, really never really wrapped his arms around him, really never embraced him. And you know, he has good games. I mean, he's like, okay. I really. And then you're like, bro, what are you doing? And Coach Groove probably was thinking like, bro, you about to get me fired. So I got to go, I got to go, I got to get move on from you. But. But then the emails popped up and then, you know, the NFL did what they did and, you know, Mark Davis felt that he needed to do what he did, but he wasn't happy with it. He didn't really, he really didn't want to get rid of Coach Goon, but.

[Unnamed Guest]

The NFL, like, you gotta do something.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You gotta. Yeah, you gotta move on. So the Raiders fired Tom Tesco. They've also let go of Antonio Pierce, so they're looking for a head coach and a general manager to come in and oversee the Raiders and see if they can turn this thing around.

[Unnamed Guest]

The volume.

[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Unnamed Guest]

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[Unnamed Guest]

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[Chad Ochocinco]

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[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Chad Ochocinco]

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[Unnamed Guest]

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