Nightcap - Hour 1: Nuggets beat the Clippers to make series 3-2 & the Pacers beat the Bucks to advance to the 2nd round!

Summary

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Release Date: April 30, 2025

Hosts: Shannon Sharpe (NFL Legend) and Chad Johnson (Basketball Analyst)

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Episode Overview

In this electrifying episode of Nightcap, Shannon Sharpe teams up with Chad Johnson to dissect the latest NBA playoff action. Focusing on the Denver Nuggets' triumphant victory over the LA Clippers to secure a 3-2 series lead, and the Indiana Pacers' impressive advancement past the Milwaukee Bucks, the hosts delve deep into player performances, strategic maneuvers, and the intense emotions driving these pivotal games.

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Denver Nuggets vs. LA Clippers: Game 5 Recap

Key Highlights:

• Jamal Murray's Stellar Performance: Jamal Murray ignited the Nuggets' offense with a monumental 43-point performance, including 8 of 14 from the three-point line (04:10)

  • Shannon Sharpe: "Jamal Murray did everything he could to take control early on. He was unstoppable."
  • Chad Johnson: "I just like the way Jamal asserted himself, man, to kind of start the game. It was a trickle effect."

• Team Effort: Beyond Murray, the Nuggets showcased a balanced attack with contributions from Michael Porter Jr., Aaron Gordon, and Nuggets' bench player Russ who added 21 points off the bench.

  • Shannon Sharpe: "They got great contributions. Russ gave him 21 points off the bench in 25 minutes."

• Clippers' Struggle to Contain Murray: Despite six Clippers players scoring in double figures, they couldn't match the explosive Nuggets.

  • Chad Johnson: "On a night that Nikola Jokic was held somewhat in check... it was Jamal Murray who really did it."

Strategic Analysis:

• Nuggets' Defensive Prowess: Denver's defense stifled the Clippers' key players, limiting Nikola Jokic to a modest triple-double without his usual dominance.

  • Shannon Sharpe: "They were very efficient on their shots. Playing hard, great defense."

• Clippers' Offensive Breakdown: The Clippers struggled with turnovers and inconsistent shooting, particularly in crucial moments.

  • Chad Johnson: "They squandered away the seven-point lead in 40 seconds. That’s on them."

Expectations for Game 6:

• Clippers' Necessity for Harden: To overturn the series, the Clippers will heavily rely on James Harden's performance, whose recent outings have been lackluster.

  • Chad Johnson: "They’re gonna need James Harden. He didn’t have it in the tank tonight."

• Nuggets' Momentum: Denver aims to capitalize on their momentum and close out the series at home.

  • Shannon Sharpe: "We're going back to LA with a chance to close this thing out. We are not going to stay alive."

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Indiana Pacers vs. Milwaukee Bucks: Game 5 Summary

Key Highlights:

• Historic Comeback: The Pacers orchestrated a remarkable comeback, overturning a 21-point deficit to win 119-118 against the Bucks in overtime.

  • Shannon Sharpe: "That was one of the only second seven-point plus comebacks during the final minute in postseason history."

• Giannis Antetokounmpo's Frustration: Post-game tensions arose when Tyrese Halliburton's father confronted Giannis, leading to a verbal altercation.

  • Shannon Sharpe: "Giannis spoke about this after the game. Losing the game, emotions run high."

Player Performances:

• Pacers' Collective Effort: Players like Miles Turner and Aaron Nesmith stepped up, providing crucial rebounds and defensive plays that were pivotal in the comeback.

  • Chad Johnson: "They need other guys to step up. Maybe Nesmith'll explode."

• Bucks' Defensive Lapses: Despite Giannis's 30 points, 20 rebounds, and 13 assists, the Bucks couldn't contain the Pacers' late-game surge.

  • Joe Johnson: "Jamal Murray was crazy out there. Everything seemed to be falling for him tonight."

Strategic Insights:

• Pacers' Defensive Strategy: Indiana employed a high-pressure defense in the final minutes, forcing turnovers and capitalizing on fast-break opportunities.

  • Chad Johnson: "They were putting a lot of pressure and making them turn over the ball."

• Bucks' Overreliance on Giannis: Milwaukee's strategy leaned heavily on Giannis, which proved insufficient against a well-rounded Pacers team.

  • Shannon Sharpe: "Giannis can't play better than what he's playing. It don’t matter who you have on him."

Looking Ahead to Game 6:

• Pacers' Confidence: Indiana enters Game 6 with heightened confidence, aiming to leverage their balanced team effort to secure a series win.

  • Chad Johnson: "This series is gonna go seven. Detroit."

• Bucks' Need for Depth: Milwaukee must find ways to diversify their offensive strategies and reduce their dependency on Giannis to turn the series around.

  • Joe Johnson: "They need other guys to step up. They can't put up a fight."

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Lakers Series Highlights and Analysis

Key Events:

• Clash with Emotions: The Lakers faced significant challenges, including emotional strains and strategic missteps that led to their struggles in the series.

  • Shannon Sharpe: "LeBron played 46 minutes on 40-year-old legs."

• Giannis vs. Halliburton Incident: The confrontation between Giannis and Halliburton's father became a focal point, igniting debates on sportsmanship and fan interactions.

  • Shannon Sharpe: "His dad coming on the floor was totally disrespectful."

Player Insights:

• LeBron James' Performance: Despite playing extended minutes, LeBron's efficiency dipped in crucial moments, contributing to the Lakers' difficulties.

  • Chad Johnson: "LeBron had zero points in the fourth quarter. He was exhausted."

• Team Dynamics: The Lakers struggled with defensive assignments and maintaining focus during high-pressure situations, leading to missed opportunities.

  • Joe Johnson: "If you don't guard the first dribble, you're getting beaten off the first move."

Strategic Breakdown:

• Defensive Challenges: The Lakers couldn't effectively double-team key players like Jamal Murray and Luka Doncic, allowing opponents to exploit their defensive gaps.

  • Shannon Sharpe: "Once Murray gets going, you can't turn him off that game."

• Fatigue Factor: Extended playtime without adequate rotation led to player fatigue, resulting in decreased performance in the latter stages of the game.

  • Chad Johnson: "That's fatigue for me. I just saw careless mistakes."

Future Outlook:

• Game 6 Anticipation: The Lakers must address their defensive strategies and manage player minutes more effectively to rebound in the series.

  • Shannon Sharpe: "They got to keep their poise and be patient."

• Potential for Series Extension: With both teams showing resilience, the series remains competitive, with Game 6 poised to be a decisive factor.

  • Chad Johnson: "It's gonna go seven, and I got Detroit pulling out at seven."

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Additional Discussions

Player Trades and Team Strategies:

• Kevin Durant and San Antonio Spurs Speculation: The hosts speculate on potential trades, particularly the pairing of Kevin Durant with San Antonio's rising stars.
  • Shannon Sharpe: "They could be a potential landing spot for Kevin Durant."

Community and Sportsmanship:

• Vandalism Incident: Shannon touches on the importance of community respect following the vandalism of a Kobe and Gigi Bryant mural, highlighting Luka Doncic's efforts to restore it.
  • Shannon Sharpe: "Luka Doncic has stepped up to pay for the entire cost of restoring the mural."

Upcoming Events:

• Pickleball Tournament Banter: The hosts engage in light-hearted banter about participating in upcoming pickleball tournaments, showcasing their camaraderie and playful competitiveness.

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Notable Quotes

• Shannon Sharpe ([04:10]): "Jamal Murray did everything he could to take control early on. He was unstoppable."
• Chad Johnson ([06:02]): "But I bet you he'll take a win like this knowing that, you know, Jamal needs some confidence."
• Joe Johnson ([12:43]): "Jamal Murray was crazy out there. Everything seemed to be falling for him tonight."
• Shannon Sharpe ([24:14]): "Welcome to the now it pays to Discover."

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Conclusion

Shannon Sharpe and Chad Johnson deliver a comprehensive and passionate analysis of the current NBA playoff landscape. From Jamal Murray's heroic performances to the Pacers' strategic prowess and the Lakers' gritty battles, the duo provides listeners with deep insights and engaging commentary. Their blend of expert analysis and spirited discussion makes this episode a must-listen for basketball enthusiasts eager to stay informed on the postseason's unfolding drama.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Hello Ladies and gentleme you for joining us for another episode of Night Cap. Y'all know me, I'm your favorite unc Shannon Sharp, my partner and co host is the bottom left, the Liberty City Legend, the Bingo Ring of Fame Honorary the Pro Bowler, the All Pro Pepe Chad Oo Johnson, bottom right, joining us talk about all things basketball. Y'all know him, The Arkansas native, Arkansas love clutch guy himself, ISO Joe. Thank you guys. Thank you. Thank you guys. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit that like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys for your support. Thank you for your continued support and thank you. I can't thank you enough. Because of you we get to do what we do. Please make sure you go check out Shay by La Portier. We do have it in stock now. If you cannot find it in a city or state near you order it, we'll ship it directly to your door. It's the best tasting VSOP on the market and we've got the proof. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Go follow my media company page on all of its platforms. Shay, Shay Media and my clothing company 84 with 84 being spelled out, that link is pinned in the chat. Supplies are limited and once they're gone, they're gone. So please grab yours while supplies last. Tickets for our Not Safe for Work tour are on sale now. Eight stop goes as follows. Baltimore, Philly, Charlotte, Louisiana, Miami, nyc, Chicago, Detroit is going to close things out. Tickets can be [e-mail] tour that's shayshaymedia.com Tour that link is pinned in the chat. Guest lineup is looking really well. Go get your tickets now. UNC and Ocho coming to a city near you. Make sure you come out and show support. Guys. What an awful eventful day in playoff basketball. We had a team get on an 8 nothing run, down by 8, down by 7, they end up winning by 1 in overtime after they go on an 80 run in 40 seconds to go. But first the Nuggets take a 32 lead. 131, 115 over the LA Clippers. Jamal Murray set the tone early tonight. Like, you know what guys, we going back to LA with a chance to close this thing out. We are not going to stay alive. We're going back to LA and we're going to try to close this thing out. 43 points, 5 rebounds, 7 assists, 3 steals, 8 of 14 from the three point line. Joe, I've seen this over the last two years when he did this to the Lakers, so I know what he's more than capable of doing. I saw him do this to the Clippers in the bubble, in the games, in the game and guess what? He dropped forward in the clothes I gave him. I've seen him do this. He and Donovan Mitchell get into a tussle and they both go get 50. So I'm not surprised, but you can't ask. On a night that Nikola Jokic was held somewhat in check. He did have a triple double, but it wasn't a meaningful, you know, I hate to say non meaningful, but he wasn't Nikola Jokic that we're used to seeing. They got great contributions. Russ gave him 21 points off the bench in 25 minutes, but it was Jamal Murray, it was Aaron Gord. Everybody chipped in. On a night that Jokic didn't have it, Jamal Murray did. What did you like about what you saw from Jamal Murray early on in this?

[Chad Johnson]

I just like the way Jamal asserted himself, man, to kind of start the game. You know, he got going early and it was just like a trickle effect, you know, you got. Russ came in, he gave you great productivity, gave you 16 points in that first half, which kind of got you going. Jokic didn't really have to be special. Even though he had a triple double unk. He was only. He only shot 13 shots. He only shot 13 times. He was 4 for 13.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But.

[Chad Johnson]

But I bet you he'll take a win like this knowing that, you know, you, Murray, some confidence, get him rolling, get him going. Cause going to LA for game what? Game six.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Game six. Game six for the Clippers. You gonna need.

[Chad Johnson]

I mean, I don't know if you're gonna need 43, but you're gonna need something close to it, you know, if you want to advance. So I thought it was a great, well rounded game for Denver. The guys who helped out, the Porter juniors, the Gordons, you know, those guys were very efficient today. They didn't have to shoot a lot, but I thought Gordon had a great game. But they were very efficient, you know, on the shots. They weren't. They were 7 for 11, 5 for 10, just. Just playing hard, playing great defense and.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And 17 of 26, 5 of 8. Russ was 8 of 15. You mentioned Michael Porter Jr. How can I interest you? This. What was he? Plus 34 and plus. Minus. That's crazy. A plus 34 and plus. Minus.

[Chad Johnson]

They whole starting five was in the pluses. You know, tonight they were hitting on all cylinders, man. They had it going. It wasn't. I mean, I know we've seen Murray, you know, throw us that flurry with 43 points, but the rest of those guys really chipped in and helped out and I mean, it was kind of lopsided game, honestly. I know the Clippers got back in it to some degree, but for the most part, the niggas had.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Murray said, hell no, y'all can't go. Hell, no, y'all can't go. Ocho. The Clippers got great. I mean, they got balanced production. They got 20 points from Kawhi, almost a triple double. He's one rebound short of a triple double. Zubots gave you 27 and 5. You got 11 from James Harden, who didn't play particularly well tonight. Norman Powell gave you 12, James Harden gave you 11, Norman Powell gave you 12, Chris Dunn gave you 15, and Bug Donovich came off the bench and gave you 18. They had six guys in double figures, but they could not find someone to output that pilot light out, which was Jamal Murray. And as Joe mentioned earlier, is that once he got going, I mean, he was hitting fall away threes. Hey, he was coming down that last three that he took. He felt the joke. He felt his. I'll take, I'll take, I'll give him. I don't care. Hey, hey.

[Chad Johnson]

When it's going good, man, you got. You gotta ride that wave. And he understood the moment. He was like, nah, forget all this. I'm gonna let it ride again. Yeah. Yeah. He had a corner.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Get your coke, your brim and get on out of ig. Get your coke, your brim and get on out of ig. Get your coat, your hat and leave O Clippers, they hung tough, but it was just too much. Jamal Murray tonight.

[Joe Johnson]

Listen, the Clippers did all they could. Obviously, James Harden not having the game he needed to have to make it somewhat of a close game. Listen, the hot hand, we know we had the hot hand. Even though, Joker, I call it a small triple double, it didn't kill you. He didn't do too much. He was 13, 12 and 10. Obviously, Russell Westbrook obviously contributed coming off the bench, but Jamal Murray was. Man, listen, I don't know what he ate before the game. I'm not sure what he had had to drink before the game or had to had to drink on the side. I don't know what it was about Jamal tonight, uncle. He had 43, 17 and 26 and he was crazy. He was 8 for 14 from the 3, and he had the hot hand. When you got the hot hand like that, man, nobody else was able to counter that. And they couldn't stop it. Everything seemed to be falling for him tonight.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, he would do Ooh.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When the guy he was. But you know what, Joe haven't played the game. You know this. When a guy like Jamal Murray get hot. You just like, hey, I show hope. I just show hope. We can get a stop here or there or we can get to keep the ball out of his hands because ain't nobody. I don't care. They put Kawhi, they put James Harden, they put Jones, they put this one, they put that one. Once the guy get it going, once he turns it on, you not turning him off that game. Now, maybe the next game he comes back and he's cold. But in that game, it don't matter who you had on him.

[Chad Johnson]

He was going, he had it going. He had the pick and roll working for him. They couldn't stop him. In the pick and roll, he kind of got whatever he wanted. And then in the one on one situation, the ISO situation, he was just breaking the defense down, getting to his spots, raising up. And once you see a few of them go in, man, you start to feel it like that. You start shooting off your back leg. You start shooting, driving in the crowd. He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, he had it going. He had it going. It was, it was a great sight to see because, you know, I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm a Denver fan and I like to see Jamal get off going, man, because when he's playing like that, they're a tough team to beat.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you, you, you're exactly right. And that's what makes them so tough, is that the year they won that championship, he and Yolk would take turns one game. Yolk, Yolk was going to get Yoke. You already know, you can see Yoke's going to give you damn near triple double every night. But let's, ooh, let's please pray we can hold Jamal under the wraps. Is that in the Lakers game? You remember the Lakers? He hit two buzzer beaters, he hit two walkers, and Jokic was doing what Jokic was doing and so it didn't matter. And when he's playing like this and they can get others could contribute and you talk the role, the others you get. I thought Christian Brown played really well. Big rebounds. He did a great job rebounding the basketball. He did a great job of hounding James Harden. He played really well. Michael Porter Jr. Was do a game like this. Aaron Gordon has been, he's been that utility guy. It's funny how it happens like this. Joe, you were what, 0.5 seconds away from going up three one. He dunks the ball home is 22. Now you finding yourself. I need to win two games in order to advance as opposed to winning one game and we home free. But the Nuggets play well. This was the best I've seen. Look, they won, they, you know, obviously they won three games, but I thought this was the best game that they played thus far.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, I think so too. But this, this, this, I think this series gonna go seven. Okay, Ocho?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. What'd you say?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think it's gonna go seven.

[Chad Johnson]

It's gonna go seven. I, I, I got the Clippers winning game six at home and then, you know, game seven, man, it's anybody's game, but you know, I think the Clippers gonna play a lot better at home and I haven't seen that big, they.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Gonna need James Harden. James Harden did not play well.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm seeing that big game from Norman Powell though. I'm expecting Norman Powell to really give him something, maybe even win him a game, you know, here or there. So I'm expecting for him to explode as well. But yeah, James didn't really have it in the tank tonight. Seemed like, I don't know and I don't know if it's, you know, because the series has kind of, you know, carried on and it's kind of worn down throughout the series. But you know, they gonna need, they definitely gonna need his contributions if they want to advance, you know, out this series.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, you think, hey Unk.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And they definitely need James Harden.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Unk. And Joe, you think this was Jamal Murray's best playoff, playoff performance since the bubble?

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, no, I don't think so. You don't think so? Un.

[Shannon Sharpe]

From a point standpoint, it might have been, it might have been his most points. But you go back and look at some of those Laker games.

[Chad Johnson]

I mean, yeah, they, they, I mean.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You go back and look at it with the Lakers.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, them Lakers game did. Yeah, he had some great games against the Lakers, but right as of recent, the past few playoff years, he, he ain't had no performances like this. They needed this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I mean we, we, we've seen him, I mean, torch the Lakers and, and the game winning shot. I mean it's, it's, it's a rarity. It's not, you might go, you might go your whole career and not have a game winning shot in the playoffs. He had two in one series.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How you get two in one series and he did that, he's more than capable of catching fire. He's like, he has that Steph Curry, he has that Dame guy, the guard that can catch fire. And the next thing you know they got 20 points in a quarter and you look up at the other game like, damn, he hit us like that. And it's not a whole lot of layups, like a big getting 43 because some of them gonna be layoffs. Jamal burry shoot 8 a lot of those. I mean, he had that couple of flood one flush that he got to play up. But Most of those three pointers admitted.

[Chad Johnson]

He was 8 for 14.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So that's 24.

[Chad Johnson]

Come on now. We this the playoffs. It's the highest level of basketball. You know what I mean? It's on a night that Denver really needed it too. So, man, kudos to Jamal Murray for coming out and giving us a great performance tonight. That was awesome.

[Joe Johnson]

I also, I mean, listen, the Clippers bench. The Clippers bench going to have to play better. You know, James Harden is. Is going to have to play a little better. He going to have to get more than, more than 11. Kawhi did what he was supposed to do, but they kind of wasted Zubach having a performance like he did tonight. And I'm not sure, I'm not sure what adjustments Ty Luke can make. Both of you said the game, I mean the series can go seven. I'm not sure what adjustments Ty Lu needs to make. Maybe home court advantage will make it make, make game, make the next game a little bit more interesting. But they gonna have to do something get it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And if you think about it, you look at this, Jamal Murray shot one free throw. He shot one free throw, got 43, one free throw.

[Joe Johnson]

Crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And so people look at say, well, man, he wasn't. Oh, he was extremely aggressive. He just didn't need to get all the way to the basket and try to get an and one to try to get anything because he had the three ball falling. So now you hug up on him. He got handles. He can put the ball on the floor, dance with it behind his back between his leg. He'll start, stop and pull up. So he has that accountability. I am not surprised that Jamal Murray went off. You saw those first couple go in and now he's just coming down court and he ain't looking to get all the way to the basket. He's stopping behind the line, Joe, and letting it go. You in trouble.

[Joe Johnson]

He was doing whatever he wanted to getting to a spot mid range. I'm trying to think defensively. What can you do? What adjustment, what adjustment can Tyloo make?

[Chad Johnson]

I'm not sure you can do much because you don't want to double that and make him have to give it up. To Jokic, because you know what yo gonna do? Yo gonna make the right play. You know what I'm saying? He gonna score it and he gonna get him a dime. So you kind of. It's almost like they kind of got to live with, you know, Jamal going out and hoping to tame the rest of the guys around him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right, right. But the thing is, is that you. And then you come and he shoots the ball and miss, and now you're out of position. You get guys getting put backs, you guys getting offensive rebound. They giving. Giving other. Getting you another opportunity to put the ball in the basket. Zubas been. Zubas has played extremely well. I believe Zubas should win most improved. Yeah, over K, bro. You the number one pick in the draft. You should. You should. First of all, if you a number one pick in the draft, if you a top pick, you a lottery pick, you should be ineligible for that role. What you mean you most improving? You the number. You the number one pick in the draft?

[Chad Johnson]

Joe, they had. They just won 16 games last year.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man.

[Chad Johnson]

Them folk won 16 games. They in a battle right now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, they in.

[Chad Johnson]

I understand, I understand they brought some. Some veteran help, but it's just my vote. I'm going. Cade.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I'm going with Zubots. That man gave you six. He increased his points by two or three a game. Rebounds by two or three of games. He bit. I mean, 59 double doubles.

[Chad Johnson]

I ain't taking that away from Zubak. I think he had a hell of a year. I think he's playing some hell of a basketball right now as we speak. But I think what the Pistons are doing is pretty special, you know, considering that Cade is kind of leading the way with that. But I'm, you know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah. But that game six is Thursday night. The Pacers beat the Bucs 119 to 1 18. There was only seven. Wow. The only second seven point plus comeback during the final minute in postseason game in the play by play era. They started that 1997, 98 Halliburton with the game winning layup. But unfortunately, the pace of win was overshadowed by Halliburton's dad coming on the court and getting in the face of Giannis causing a verbal altercation. Giannis spoke about this after the game. Losing the game, emotions run high. Having a fan, which at the moment I thought it was a fan, but then I realized that's Tyrese's dad. I'm happy for him. I'm happy for his son. That's how you're supposed to feel. But coming to me and disrespecting me and cursing at me, I think is totally unacceptable. Totally unacceptable. His dad coming on the floor and showing me a sun towel with it on his face saying, this is what. This is what we do. We do this. I feel like that was very, very disrespectful. I believe in being humble, in victory. That's the way I am. Halliburton said all the right things, though. He said, as far as the incident between Giannis and my pops, I had no idea until it happened. And I got in the back, I talked to my pops after, and I don't agree with what transpired there from him. He needs to just allow me to play basketball. I'll talk to Giannis about it. I don't think my pops was right. I think Hallie handled it right. Look, Joe, I could just imagine how my dad would have felt ojo, if he could have saw your dad see you play. My dad could have seen me play. Cause that's his son. I'm his baby boy. And to see me out there on the field and I'm scoring a touchdown. I can imagine the pride that a father feels when his son play, hits a home run or his son wins a does something. So I can imagine. But to come all the way on the court, yeah, that's a. And I can. Look, you talking to a guy that got into an alteration with the Grizzlies, but I was up. My ass was on the sideline. I'm not excusing it, so chat. I'm not excusing my behavior. So I'm just saying I think, look, if he wants to wave the towel, he's on the sideline, fine, so be it. But when you come on into that playing area, it's like when you run on the football field. Back in the day, they used to run the football field. Players tied to the hell out.

[Chad Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But so what's. We'll. We'll address the game in a minute. The situation that arose. Joe, how do you. Do you like the way Giannis handled it? And do you like what Halle had to say after?

[Chad Johnson]

Well, I thought Giannis handled it pretty professional. You know, he kept his composure. You know, he controlled his emotions throughout that. Throughout that, you know, that time. Because, you know, I can imagine how he's feeling, man, they just squandered away a seven point lead in 40 seconds. And then this happened.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's 40.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm like, 40 seconds, bro. You lose a seven point lead. So I know he was teed off about it, but, yeah, I think Hallenberg's father was definitely in the wrong man. Definitely in the wrong Ocho.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, Pops. Pops crossed the line a little bit. But listen, I can understand Pop's excitement. Obviously, he shouldn't have been on the court. If anything. Anything you do, it should have been done on the sideline. I kind of understand it, but as a father, you know, myself, as a father of. Of. Of 85, I can see myself almost in. In that situation damn near, you know, but as. As a dad, you gotta. You gotta contain yourself. Keep somewhat of a. A sportsmanlike and professionalism to yourself, knowing and understanding that. Obviously, Giannis is. Is in that. In that situation. He's. He's upset, and you never know how he could have reacted, but Giannis handled it very well. Halliburton handled what he had to say after the game very well. And I'm sure Yan. Giannis and Halber ham great. I'm sure Giannis and Hal Burton have probably had a conversation about it, and I don't really think it's. It's. It's a big deal. It is because Pop came to court. It's not that big of a deal.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, you know, they are.

[Shannon Sharpe]

John Hallibur, you know, they already, you know. Yeah, I. Let me. Let me. Let me. Let me read what he said, and then I'll let you get into your thought. Ito. This is what John Halberton, who is the, uh, uh. To Tyrese Halliburton's father. I sincerely apologize to Giannis, the Milwaukee Bucks and the Pacers organization for my actions following tonight's game. This is not a good reflection of our sport or my son, and I will not make that mistake again. Back in the 80s or 90s, I don't know if one of them players would have let that slide.

[Chad Johnson]

They be throwing them off dumb the Al Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They just want gonna Pop because I'm not so sure, because Giannis said he thought it was a fan at first, and then he realized that it was y. It was Tyrese's dad, man. Look, back in those days, man, look, you getting the guy face like them guys be doing now and want to be doing all this, man. Them guys didn't play like that, man. They like your ass, man.

[Chad Johnson]

I told y'all. Hey, they, they, they. They bust. They putting them gun fingers in your face and everything. It's so disrespectful. Oh, yeah, I'm talking about in the NBA, at the Ring League. It don't matter where you playing at, man. They disrespectful, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yo, they, they, they, they, they be, they be on one. And like you said, I think sometimes when emotion is high, logic is low. And I, I, I can understand he's extremely excited about his dad, about his son. They won that series. You know, once Dame didn't play the first game, and then Dame goes down with that injury, then Milwaukee's not winning. Now maybe they should have won that game. Let's, let's give them that, let's concede that. Let's just say for the sake of argument, they should have won that game. They're not winning this series, not with Giannis by himself. And it took, think about it, the game that they won the first game. Jerry Trent Jr. Had 37, he had 33 tonight. So it's taking a hurt, it's taking Garrett Trent Jr. To have a out of body experience in order for them to be close. Now if he doesn't play like that in game six, he doesn't play like Giannis is not enough. Giannis had 30, 20 and 13. Giannis can't play any better than what he's playing. So hey, it just goes so collectively.

[Chad Johnson]

They need other guys to step up. Yeah, maybe Trent ain't gonna give you 33 or 37 every night, but he'll come down about 15, 16. You get these other cats to step up. Kevin, you get Porter Jr. To step up. You know what I mean? They got guys who are capable, obviously. Bobby Portis, you know, he's still trying to find rhythm, find rhythm and tuning because he's been out for quite some time, but he normally steps up and give him great minutes in the absence, especially of stars like D and Giannis when they not in the game. So I think they tried to switch it up though. They started Bobby at the five, you know, Brock Brook off. Yes, just probably more active, more defensive minded. Bobby can score a little better than Brook.

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[Joe Johnson]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Then full price plan options available, taxes and fees, extra fee, full [e-mail] foreign to the baskets. He can do it. He can score in a lot of different ways. Brook ain't doing Brook ain't doing number two three I ain't never seen a man I ain't never seen a man 7 foot 7, 7 12. And all he want to do is stand behind the three point line. O Joe, I'm being facetious, but I'm like, bro, how you sit that tall and you've never averaged double digit rebounds in a season. That's, that's, that's, that's not good, Joe. That's not good.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, it's not good. I had, I had a chance to play with Brooke. He was an awesome player. He wasn't shooting threes when I was playing with him in Brooklyn. He was just a down, low down, you know, back to the basket guy. But damn, I know, I, I know the Bucks hate this. You know, I thought they, they did whatever they could. They had a chance to win the game. They up seven for 40 seconds off. You can't lose that. You know what I mean? Go back home. No play in front of your crowd. Force a game seven, man. Anything can happen in game seven, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Listen, it's better to put them out in misery now. It's better to put them out in music now. Listen to the paces and paces play where obviously Halliburton did what he needed to do, but hell, it was a supporting cast in the end that really stepped up. Miles Turner had 21, 219 rebounds. Aaron Naismith had 19. Goddamn T.J. mcConnell had 18. There was no way their team got committed even. Even though.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Remember we talked about that the other night. They're gonna have somewhere between five and eight guys in double figures. Damn it. When they win, go look at the box score and see how many guys.

[Joe Johnson]

Everybody, Everybody putting their hat in the pot to make sure. Now I don't. I have. Well, obviously I know because I saw. But hell, squandering the goddamn 87 point lead with 40 seconds on the clock. Boy, that's. That's on you. That's on you. That ain't supposed to. That's not supposed to happen at this level. Not at this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Tyrese Halliburton had a tweet. Overrate that. You know, Tyrese Halliburton, he was the runaway winner. Most overrated player in the NBA. The players voted Tyrese Halliburton. He came back overrated.

[Chad Johnson]

That bulletin board material. Anything you gotta do to carry a chip, that's gonna help you compete at your highest level.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, right.

[Chad Johnson]

You know what I mean? Like, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, how does like, man, look here. I was on. I was on an Olympic team. I've been an all star. I've led the league in assists. Bro, look, he ain't magic. He ain't gonna ever be Magic. He's not gonna be Steph Curry. But damn, just because can we get. Cause people like now, Joe, people feel like, well, he ain't no Magic. He ain't no LeBron. He ain't no Joint. Damn him. Who is right.

[Chad Johnson]

It's only a few, bro. It's only a few. Hold on.

[Joe Johnson]

Who the who the pace is gonna have to facing in the next series?

[Chad Johnson]

Cleveland.

[Joe Johnson]

What's that looking like? What you think?

[Chad Johnson]

Hold on, hold on. The team that just knocked off the Heat, who ain't put up no fight them, boy. They ain't fighting.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Time.

[Joe Johnson]

I bought my Heat timeout. Time out. That's not what happened. That's not what happened. Now, this is something that the story hasn't. It hasn't come out yet, but what happened was the pregame meal that the Heat players ate. Everyone had a stomach virus. Everyone had a stomach virus. That's why they played the way they played. And it. It looks like they almost gave up, but they didn't. Everybody was sick, and they know the whole team can't sit out, so they.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, they don't almost gave up.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Listen, ain't no almost gave up. When you down by one point, by 60. When you down by all. When you down at one point in the game by 60, you lose by 55.

[Joe Johnson]

I told you what happened. Everybody had a stomach virus and they were forced to play. It was like everybody was playing a flu game. They just not. Jordan.

[Chad Johnson]

Come on, you gotta stop it, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm telling you. Why you think they lost by 55?

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, man, I can't believe. I couldn't believe that, man.

[Joe Johnson]

I couldn't believe it.

[Chad Johnson]

Not no 61 in no Miami. You couldn't see that.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, yeah, everybody stumbled.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because here's the thing. Think about how Tyler Hero, he ain't bet one shot. So what? Let me ask you this, Joe, okay? If Tyler Hero doesn't go ape crazy, if. If. If Bam doesn't give you damn near triple double, where he give you 19, 11 and 9, where you gonna get your points from?

[Chad Johnson]

Well, them, your two best players, they gotta step up. Huh? They gotta give you something. They can't put up a fight. We gotta at least be in the game. 61.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh. Oh, hey, at some point, Ty Julius s. Will put up a fight.

[Chad Johnson]

And then he saw.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He bruised. I mean, at some point in time, they get the Whalen on you just right.

[Chad Johnson]

You just give up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Say, hey.

[Chad Johnson]

But hey, you got to get Cleveland credit, though. They. Hey, they came, he didn't play no game. Donovan came out, you know, with that look in his eyes, like, okay, with the first five minutes, we ain't gonna play no game with these boys, man. The score was 4114 at one point. I'm watching this game.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, listen.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

It's like. It's like. It's like Lions. It's like lions out there, man, in a. In a Sahara and a goddamn hyena engine, man. That's. That was my heat. That was me. Listen, it wasn't nothing to do, but I will tell you this. I'm gonna tell you what little birdie told me. I told you gonna have. We're gonna have some gangsters coming to Miami next year. I told you about the sit down I had with Pat Riley and Mickey Harrison, you know, in Sportster. Things are going quick.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It ain't gonna happen.

[Chad Johnson]

No joke.

[Joe Johnson]

Things are gonna change, punk. I'm telling you about the meeting I had personally.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Them guys. Listen, this a new. You told me. It's a new era of player. You can't do with them like they used to do with us. Pat Riley needs to understand taking cookies and running everything with an iron fist. You think Giannis about to go. Think about what? Giannis just came. Let's just say, for the sake of argument, Joe, Giannis want to leave. Do you understand? They've given Giannis everything except the God dang old Harley Davidson dealing. Harley Davidson. That's In Milwaukee. They've given him everything. Hey, Boone Holzer. Jason Kidd was gone. Boone Holder gone. Adrian Griffin gone. Halfway players, they get. Yeah, they got. They got his brother.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, let me tell you. Let me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Come on.

[Joe Johnson]

Let me tell you. Let me tell you what. We got to offer Giannis something that they don't have in Milwaukee. They don't have it in Milwaukee. We got. We gonna offer Giannis Cadillac dealership. We gonna offer Giannis tootsies. They don't have tootsies in Milwaukee. They don't have that. We got South.

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[Joe Johnson]

We got. We got South Beach. They don't have that. Huh? We got Carbone. We got Club Live. Huh? We got poppy steak. Now, listen, I told. I. I talked to John last night. I'm not even supposed. I'm not even supposed to be saying this. And I told J. Listen, I'm gonna do whatever I can on my end to make sure you get to Miami. Now, I don't know what assets we have as he. As a heat culture to give up, you know, to make the trade possible, but I'm going to do. I'm going to do what I can on my end to make sure you get here. I'm going to make sure you good. So now I'm telling you again, John.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You will be in Memphis.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm telling you again. And Joe, Brother ISO, when you see Giannis and you see John Moran and the Heat jersey next year, don't be like, oh, Ocho, I ain't believe in you. But you was right. I don't want to hear nothing that go for the chat, too. Don't be so. Oh, boy, you be knowing stuff.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right, I tell you, all I'm saying is this, that Pat Riley, Pat Riley make a. Make make assertions. And then when he gets you there, he switch up on you and he. There's a reason why. Think about it. Two of his b. Think about it. D. Wade ended up leaving. LeBron James left. Jimmy Butler left.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, you know what? Three times the charm.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, come on. Shaq left.

[Joe Johnson]

Three times. Three times the charm.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Pat Riley on the Shaq left. D. Wade left. LeBron left. Jimmy Butler left. Now, four of your best four of your best players in the history of that organization have left. And the one thing, the one constant is Pat Riley.

[Joe Johnson]

See?

[Shannon Sharpe]

And yeah, it's a different age. You cannot talk to these players.

[Joe Johnson]

But I'm telling you what Pat told me. He's going. He's willing to change his ways because he has a better understanding.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That man, 80 that man.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm telling you, he gonna evolve. I'm telling you. I had the conversation with him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me ask you a question. Your grandma ate pork?

[Chad Johnson]

My grandma?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah. She. Well, grandma ate everything even as she got older.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And the doctor said. And the doctor said, Ms. Johnson, this ain't good for you. I've been eating pork all my life. I'm gonna leave here somewhere.

[Joe Johnson]

That's all. That's all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what my grandma said.

[Joe Johnson]

That's all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Exactly.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, that's all. But listen, if Pat is serious about winning, if he's serious about winning and changing the culture in which be a winning culture, which made fans excited and wanted us to come to the game, he's going to have to do right? He's going to have to change his ways and allow south beach in the Miami Heat to be yet an attraction where people want to come to. There's no reason why NBA players, when their time is up or if they're to be traded, who doesn't want to come to south beach and you can't be the reason they don't want to come in. So he understands he has to change his ways and the way he conducts himself.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, I. I'm not necessarily. I don't necessarily think it's like the culture, I think. I ain't gonna lie. The culture was pretty. It was all right. I mean, it's a strict to some degree. Yeah, but you gotta have talent, man. You gotta have some talent. You know what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like you the Patriot. Wait, how's the Patriot way without Tom Brady? Oh, yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

The culture can be, you know, tight street, whatever the case may be, but if you ain't got no talent to go out there to, you know, put on display, it's hard to win in this league, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right. So you're right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look at, look at, look at that standard. There's a standard when they ain't got no quarterback in Pittsburgh, they ain't got no Roethlisberger. The standard is the standard. I guess you got to lower that standard, something until you got some better, get some better players, and then they elevated.

[Joe Johnson]

That's all it come down to. It come to talent no matter what.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Exactly. People. People try to make it old. It's a. It's a culture. It's the way they do things. No, it's is the way that guy does things. It's the way a Tom Brady is the way a Ben Rothenberger do things. And if you don't have those type players, you can have culture, culture all you want to.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It don't work like that. But, Pat, you're right. Pat gonna have to change some of his ways. The Pistons go to New York and beat the knicks. Cade Cunningham, 24 points, 8 rebounds, 8 assists. Aur Thompson, 22 points or 8 or 10 field goals, 7 rebounds, 2 blocks. Tobias Harris, 1784 blocks. Jalen Duran, 9.14 rebounds, 6 assists, 2 blocks. The game is really, really close. The Pistons have scored 421 points. The Knicks 429 rebounds, 180. Pistons are dominating this category, 182 to 148 plus 34, three points made, three pointers made, 44 for the Pistons, 47 for the Knicks. Turnovers. Had it not been for turnover, Detroit might have won this series. 70 turnover to 46 points in the paint, 1176 to 180 in favor of the Knicks. But the games have been very, very close. And who knows, had they called that file Sunday, we might be Having a different conversation today, Joe.

[Chad Johnson]

We might be even. Even with them squandering away the 21 point lead with letting the Knicks go on their 21, that 210 nothing run. But I think this has been an even season. These are two teams who are pretty even to me, if you ask me. But Detroit is just so gritty. The biggest discrepancy, what I see is in the free throws. Detroit, Detroit shot 16 for 27 tonight. I mean, the Knicks shot 16 for 27. 59% in Detroit was 26 for 36 from the line. The Knicks miss 11 free throws, both of them. The Knicks miss 11 free throws, shooting 59% from the line. You lose by one. You like? Damn. Yeah, they out there competing, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think.

[Chad Johnson]

I think Detroit has kind of wore the Knicks down a little bit. If you just want me to be honest, like, this is a bruising series. I mean, you look at Brunson, I ain't think he was going to come back for the game in Detroit, but he did, and they end up winning. And I think it's just kind of, you know, as the games go on, you know, I think it kind of wears them down. That's why I say early in the series, you want to pick him up. Full court, bump and grind, all that. By the time we get the game, game six, five, seven, he gonna be broken down a little bit.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Tim's gonna war him down during the regular season, playing in 43, 44 minutes a night during the regular season. That's what war don't stop.

[Chad Johnson]

Cause in the playoffs, it continues. It's not like it stops in the playoffs. You know what I mean? He only got a rotation of seven, eight guys, and you ain't got really.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's in the regular season. He might cut that down to six in the postseason.

[Chad Johnson]

You know, all they guys are pretty average today. They didn't have nobody who kind of, you know, stepped up and separated themselves to, you know, be able to pull his win. Yeah, but this one, I think this one going seven, man, and I got Detroit pulling out at seven.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Joe Johnson]

You got Detroit.

[Chad Johnson]

I got Detroit winning this long, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Man, she know the Knicks are not going to lose this. I listen, I know they. They squandered tonight. Listen, the knicks had what, 13 turnovers. They missed 11, 11 free throws, nigga. Jalen Brunson and Car, they were nine, nine for 30, you know, shooting night. Brunson only scoring 16. I think what towns T17. I think it was more so the turnovers even though they, they, they barely lost. I don't think Jalen Brunson has another game like this. He never have another game like this. This was the down game for him, you know, scoring, scoring. 17, 16 tonight. But I, I don't, I don't, I don't see, I don't see them losing this game. And I mean, excuse me, losing this series, you know, it was just a bad night tonight. It was a bad night.

[Chad Johnson]

They tired, man, they look wore down to me. I'm gonna be honest with you. And to play another. Gotta go back to Detroit now and play, play in Detroit travel. I think they, I think Detroit doing what they want as far as wearing them down, you know, making this a long series out, it's going to be in Detroit's favor.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. If you look at the bench, Schroeder is coming in giving them great minutes. Malik Beasley is giving them tremendous business. They had 26 bench points. They outscored him on the bench, six 19. So they outscored. They outscored him 26 to 19 on the bench. And you see the difference in the ball game. But I think when Shooter comes in, he does a great job. He gets Cade Cunningham off the ball. He's making timely shots, he's distributing the ball. Malik Beasley is coming in, making some timely threes. I love Unsour Thompson. I love the way he play. He's aggressive. He can, he can. Hey, and he's a two way player. He can pick you up full court. Hey, he could put the ball on the floor, get to the rim. He's rebounding this thing. J.B. bickerstaff has done an unbelievable job with this team and you can see why he was in the running for coach of the year. I get Kenny Atkinson one. I got no problem with that. They were the best team in the east record wise from start to finish. But what J.B. bickerstaff has done with this team and to get them into the sixth seed and get them in a situation where they could possibly get out of the first round. He's done a heck of a job and he should be commended. Cause these young guys, now they get one more piece. I still believe they're a piece away from truly, truly contending. But they got some young guys. What they got 45 rebounds. They got out, rebounded a little bit. But you've got a seven foot cat. You got a six'eleven seven foot Mitchell Robinson and they just got the one big. But give those guys credit. I Thought they were gritty. And even though when the Knicks went on that run and passed them up, that's a young team on the road, and they kept it together. They kept their poise, and they ended up coming back, going their own run, take the lead. Lead and never look back. They were.

[Chad Johnson]

They were special, man. They were special. You're going to have to give, you know, you're going to have to look out for Detroit. Give them credit. I don't think K didn't play a great game. He was 6 for 17 from the field, but for the most part, you know, he controlled the game. I love his aggression.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson]

Got 12 free throws, made 11 of them. So it lets me know, you know, he ain't just selling for Joe. He aggressively, aggressively getting to the Cup. But, yeah, like you say, The Thompson kid, 8 for 10, you know, him getting to the line, he was 6 for 12 from the line, but he's being aggressive as well. So, you know, Detroit has enough to advance out this series. They just got to be poised and patient, you know, especially down the stretch and closing these games.

[Joe Johnson]

Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Go ahead, Go ahead. Hold on. Because this is the second time I heard Joe say this, and not only you saying that Detroit ain't gonna close this series out in seven, but you saying it with confidence. Like, how much do you really believe in the Pistons? I'm just curious.

[Chad Johnson]

I believe in them a lot, Ocho. They young, they ready for the moment. They understand the moment. I mean, they done went in the. They done went in the garden and won two games, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, we talk about big Body Brunson, right? Carl Anthony Towns, Josh Hart.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You sure? You show about that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Them boys. Them boys, nice. They play hard. I like it. But I think they open down, which. I'm gonna be honest with you, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay, well, I'm saying, you. You willing to put some money on that, or what you trying to do?

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, man, I know you should probably still. Oh, man, I don't even know if I don't probably. I'm sorry to bring up somebody get in somebody else pocket, but it's hard for me to bet with you, brother. I'm sorry. I don't know what you want.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Come on.

[Joe Johnson]

All right, check this out. Shut this down. Shut it down. Let's say. Let's let. Bet 5200. Bet 5200.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, me?

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, hey, hey, Joe, he tried to move. He tried to move his dad over you.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, hey, No, I ain't going ojo. You can try somebody else, bro. Hey, ojo. I'm going to have some for you, though. They got this pickleball tournament, man, and I need a partner. I know you ain't gonna do nothing with them hips. You ain't gonna move around with N.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Got nothing for you. I got bad hips and bone on bone in my left.

[Chad Johnson]

100 grand to the winning team. I'm Joe. Oh, well, who I'm gonna play, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They gonna beat the hell out y'all play.

[Joe Johnson]

Who I'm gonna play with?

[Chad Johnson]

You gonna play with me?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, they gonna beat the hell out y'all feet. He don't even know you his partner.

[Joe Johnson]

Hold on. Hey, Joe boy, you seen me play tennis, right?

[Chad Johnson]

No, I ain't saying, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Listen, I play. But listen, I'm telling you, I listen, I lie for you before I lie to you now. I could play some tennis. The clips. You can see the clips. And the uncle vouch for me. People in the chat can vouch for me. I played tennis growing up. I'm very good at tennis. So switching to pickleball, hey, I'm gonna be all over the court, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm telling you, Joe, you just asked that, man. You say, hey, Ocho, come down here and play. Got this pickleball tournament.

[Chad Johnson]

I thought it was solo.

[Joe Johnson]

I thought it was solo.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you know Ocho. Say who? Who team I'm on.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hold on. What's the date? Let me know. I'm gonna be ready.

[Chad Johnson]

Hello, Ocho. It's in the Hamptons, though, Ocho.

[Joe Johnson]

What's that?

[Chad Johnson]

It's in the Hamptons.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Flag harbor, Upstate.

[Joe Johnson]

Upstate who?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Don't worry about it.

[Joe Johnson]

Hold on, hold on. I'm learning about history. I'm learning about my history. Where the Hamptons at?

[Chad Johnson]

It's upstate New York.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, that's right there. How far. How far that from the Bronx, like Queens.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, how far did you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got a helicopter?

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't getting on the helicopter out there. I ain't going.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you could. Or you could drive it, probably. I'm assuming it's probably a couple hours, A couple maybe. Hour, hour and a half. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, okay.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, but your lateral movement like that.

[Joe Johnson]

You like that, boy, you know, boy, you better go. You better YouTube me, boy. D.C. don't play. Hey, listen, listen. I play tennis on the big court. My ladder movement is phenomenal. It's like I'm still 22 years old, right? But then you think about pickleball. The court is so small, so it takes me to get from one end to the other, if I'm playing solo in, like, three steps.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

So my. My short area. My short area quickness is still there. Nothing has really changed. I'm still. I still got my. I'm still real twitchy, so I'm excited. Just let me know the dates so I can block those off. I'm ready.

[Chad Johnson]

I got you. Yeah, we gonna get. Wait, how.

[Joe Johnson]

Wait, how.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How much?

[Chad Johnson]

How much?

[Joe Johnson]

How much we win? A hundred thousand.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. It's out. It's. It's. It's 90 minutes. It's 90 minutes. It'S a 90 minute drive.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, that. That ain't bad. The Hamptons a lot.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But most people. Most people hold you. Most people take it.

[Joe Johnson]

That sounds. That sound like it costs too much. I drive. I can get a rental car for $60.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I promise you, if you got a house in the Hamptons, you're not worried about no cost. In the helicopter, you probably hold it.

[Joe Johnson]

The Hampton's, like, for the rich folk, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Joe, you got. You got a house in the Hamptons?

[Chad Johnson]

Nah, I got some people over there. I know some people. Know some people. You know what I'm saying? Like, we good.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay. Okay, okay. Like rich. Like rich people, huh?

[Chad Johnson]

I know some people, Ocho. Hey. Oh, okay. You know, you don't have plenty of room. We got some room now, you know, y'all can come down the house. Yeah, Yeah. I mean, when is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When it. Hey, is in June. When is it?

[Chad Johnson]

I'm gonna give y'all the dates. I'm gonna send y'all the dates. I'm gonna have.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y'all might. I'm like, hey, I need. I need. I need a place I could let my hair down. I can relax and laugh at Ocho when he go out there in the ball, hit him.

[Joe Johnson]

Now, you know I know how to play some. Listen. Hey, Joe. Ping pong. Ping pong. I'm the Liberty City ping pong champ and overtown, too. I'm Ping. I'm him.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm.

[Joe Johnson]

They call me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And that's me, Ocho. Ocho, who you think they call to train the Asian to play table tennis? Ocho. Yes, your boy who.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, you can't play no table tennis. You can't even see. You wear glasses.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, sound like, hey, hey, chat.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Chad.

[Joe Johnson]

Do me a favor, Chad. Y'all send Joe on Twitter and Instagrams, send him some clips of me playing tennis so he understands how good I am.

[Chad Johnson]

All right? Okay. All right.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Pickleball.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ain't good But I like Joe. I agree with you. I think it's gonna be a seven game series. I do think, I think the Pistons are going to tie this thing up 3, 3 and they're going to come back. Now this is not going to be a good look for the, for the Knicks if they lose this series because remember they had the lead on, on the last year they had to lead on the Pacers and the Pacers win game six and then they go in the Knicks and go into game seven and they blow them out on their home court. I don't know Tibbs lose this one might be, you might be in trouble.

[Chad Johnson]

But yeah, that's, that's, that's, that's just my gut feeling. I like how the Pistons playing look every game you ain't going to win, every game is not going to be pretty. You got to win some ugly games, you know and I think tonight was one of those ugly games that they ended up pulling out and that ain't nothing but, you know, more experience for their young team over there, especially on the road.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's one thing to win a close game at home, but you go on the road into a hostile environment. We know understand what Madison Square msg, we understand what that is and that's a gritty team the Knicks and to go in there and get a hard fought victory. Pistons got a lot of confidence.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Chad Johnson]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Chad Johnson]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Head to meritbeauty.com today and receive Merit's signature makeup bag free with your first order. The Celtics close out the Magic game five. Jason Tatum was sensational. 35 points, 8 rebounds, 10 assists. Celtics are 71 all time in the playoffs when they record, when he records 10 assists. Jason Tatum's last three games, he went 35, 8 and 10, 37, 14 and 3, 36, 9 and 4. He's playing like that. And then you got Jalen Brown gave you 23 and 6.

[Chad Johnson]

It's going to be stopping.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, you know what? And, and Joe, it's almost unfair, man. Yeah, it's almost unfair just watching them. I, I think about fair play when it comes to salary cap and, and it's like how do you have all these players? Not only you have all these players that are good, not, not just the starting five, the goddamn bench.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Comes in and they got Peyton Pritchard, Sam Houser and they don't miss a beat.

[Joe Johnson]

Obviously the game of basketball is a game of runs, but you don't feel bad about subbing or having people coming in and out the game because you understand what you're getting once your starters go out. It's unfair and I hate to jump the gun, but I'm sure it's fair for me to be able to say, and I'm sure the chat would agree with me, that the Celtics are probably going to end up winning the NBA championship again. And if they keep the same squad together, there's a chance they win that motherfucker again next year too.

[Chad Johnson]

It's possible. It's possible. The guys coming off the bench, man, they barely missed shots tonight. I mean, they weren't playing with Orlando. They was ready to close, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Orlando had a lead and next thing I know they're down by 20. I like, what the hell happened? You know? Cause hey, I couldn't get the game. So I'm watching, I'm watching on my phone. And you know, the thing is, it don't go so, you know, I forgot, did I hit the little back arrow? That thing I left.

[Chad Johnson]

Orlando need a, they need a point guard over there with Ben Carroll and Wagner involved. Yeah, they need, they do. They need a PG over there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jayla Suggs and Norman the point guard. I don't know why they didn't play Cole. I don't know. Cole Anthony might have been hurt.

[Chad Johnson]

Might have been hurt, but decent minutes. He gave him some decent minutes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Not enough though. But I'm saying he didn't play a whole lot the series. He played this, it seemed like he played this game out of desperation. You know what I'm saying? It's like we ain't. Let's. Let's throw all we got. Cause he ain't been playing on the red. Cause I watched him like, well, damn, where's Suggs? I know, excuse me. Cole Anthony. Suggs is nicked. Currently, Jaylen Brown had 23.6 rebounds. Boston has won 16 straight playoff games when he scored 20 or more points.

[Joe Johnson]

That's crazy, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They got a two headed monster because think about it, you got JT and JB, you got Derrick White, that can give you solid 20. You got Prezingas, that can give you 20. You got Holiday, that's going to play on both ends of the court and can get you somewhere. 12 to 16. You got Al Horford, Big Al, ain't no telling, hey, he gonna play outstanding defense. He gonna rebound some shots. Can give you, you know, can give you double digits. Then you get Peyton Pritchard coming off the bench. You get Cole Hower coming off the bench. They got a cornet.

[Chad Johnson]

They got a bunch of guys chipping in, man. A bunch of guys chipping in. That's that championship pedigree. They Know, they rolls, they play it to the tee. They start. Nah, it's going to be tough to beat them in a seven game series. I don't care who you are.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Dang.

[Shannon Sharpe]

JJ. Redick said fatigue wasn't a factor in the Lakers lost Sunday night. Redick became the first coach to use the same five for an entire half of game since at least 1998. As far back as substitution tracking goes, JJ said today our two best players missed layups at the rim. And I don't think they missed layups because they were tired. I spoke to everyone yesterday. They would have potentially played the second half and they all understood there was no issue with that. LA has been outscored 105 to 69 in the fourth quarter of this series. They're shooting 25 of 78 of 32%.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Unk.

[Chad Johnson]

That's fatigue.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, unk.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

The famous phrase when you play sports, fatigue makes a fool of us all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Makes cowards of us all.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, that too. Easy layups. Easy layup. Easy layup. Layups. That's fatigue.

[Chad Johnson]

Fatigue.

[Joe Johnson]

Lack of concentration, lack of focus. One of the easiest shots to make. That's fatigue.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Come on now.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on. Come on, JJ. Come on now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because you're asking LeBron. Listen, I don't care what LeBron says. I don't care what he says. He's playing. He played 46 minutes on 40 year old legs. There's a reason why he only took two shots. He had zero points in the fourth quarter. He was exhausted.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, and it's physical.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Luca played for. Yes. Cause you got to bang Julius Randle. You got to chase somebody. It's not like you just standing out there like you a traffic cop. You got.

[Chad Johnson]

You see ant man out there taking the challenge. They having a whole shoving match out there. That takes energy, bro, to do that. You know he ain't trying. Just walk down to the block, catch it on your spot and get comfortable. He fighting. And then you fight me down to this spot. By the time you get the ball, you're gonna be a little exhausted. And that's that whole plan. Just wrestling. Wear him down, man. You can't play no whole half or no NBA basketball, playoff basketball.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And don't think with that intensity, with the focus. That's required.

[Chad Johnson]

Stretch. Yes, that, that. I, I say that definitely was fatigue for me. I mean, I just seen careless mistakes for sure, you know, Careless mistakes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And what, what were they? What was he supposed to say? Of course you're not gonna say fatigue because you allowed those Guys to play that many minutes, so that would make you look bad. Of course you're not gonna say fatigue was a part of it because it was your decision. I disagree. I think most people would disagree with you that fatigue was an issue. If fatigue wasn't an issue, team would be playing that guy for 24 minutes in the second half all the time. Nobody does that. Yeah, nobody does that for a reason.

[Joe Johnson]

But listen, but listen, hey, uncle and Joe, nobody does that for a reason. But in the Lakers situation, they don't have a choice but to do it, to even have they even have a chance to be able to compete.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They got six points from their bench. They got six points from their bench and theoretically wasn't a bench because Finney Smith played the entire second half. It is. So the problem that they're running into is that Minnesota is able to play Rudy Gobert for 20 minutes. They can't play Jackson Hayesburg for six. So now you bring, now you put LeBron at the five. Now he has to bang Julius Randle or he has to, you know, so, so at some point in time, gave Vincent Jackson page, he lost all confidence and Dalton connect because he doesn't down connect his DMP coaching decision. And he might can help him by spacing the floor and knocking down some threes, but he can't remember his defensive assignment. He can't remember the rotation of what he's supposed to do. Do I hedge? Do I go with the road? What do I do? Do I? Do I?

[Chad Johnson]

And I think so. Jj, I think it's a lot of pressure on the perimeter guys too. Austin Reaves, Luke Ross. It's a lot of pressure on them, not only to score, but to defend. Let me tell you something. In this atmosphere, playoff atmosphere, if you can't guard the first dribble or two to give yourself some time to where we can at least get eyes on the man or give you a little help then when. Yeah, but you getting beat off the first move, Ocho. Man, we can't get help there fast enough to help you, man. Look, they get in the paint, they getting in the teeth of our defense and doing whatever they want. Cause look, if they get past the guards, our backline defenses, Braun and Dorian, Finney Smith and.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, or Rui.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. And then like, you know, you have no, you have no rim protection.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

You know, you, you, you, you in scramble mode every defensive possession and it's just tough, it's just going to be hard for them to win. I think the size that, that the Timberwolves have they taking advantage of it?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I agree with you, Joe. I think the thing is, what's happening is that first of all, Luca can't stop nobody off the first dribble. So they're getting around him. And so when you bring him guys getting put, guys that's in the dunker spot of getting wide open shots and shoot around threes. So now and then Ant Man, Ant man, he keep Austin Reeves or he keeps ruin or he keeps Luka in the pick and roll. Nope, I want him. Bring him to me. And then they let him play one on one. You can't let Ant man play one on one. He's a supreme, skilled one on one player. You gotta make him play team ball, make somebody else beat you. Especially just like tonight. We saw Jamal Murray get hot. He had 43 just like Ant Man. And what happened? They let him play one on one. Okay. You let a guy get hot and you let him play one on one.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, you'll be sorry.

[Chad Johnson]

I think what has happened is by them trapping Ant man or kind of putting him in this little cage to, you know, make him get a ball up, he's making the right plays. Ocho and them guys are making the Lakers pay. Whether it's McDaniels getting dunks or threes, or Randle, you know, making the right play when he catch at the free throw line where he attacking the basket. Cause they ain't got no rim protection and he's getting to the line, shooting free throws or whatever he wants. And then in the fourth quarter, when Ant man see, he know he can beat the double team anytime he wants, he starts beating the double team and he starts putting the onus on the Lakers as far as getting in the paint, making plays, shooting the threes. And now you can't stop that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But here's the thing though, Joe, is that if you go back and look at Sunday's game, he's raising up, shooting three from distance. Trap him, get the ball out of his hand. See, I want to make guys, I want to make. Let's see if McDaniel can make those plays in the fourth quarter with five minutes to go. I know Ant man can beat me. Ant man is one of the five or six great best players in the NBA. So I know what he's more than capable of doing. Okay, let's see. Let's see what you got. Josh Jay McDaniel. You got that?

[Chad Johnson]

I think he can do it. He's. He's showing this. He's shown improving this series on that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why he going to see it again in there. I want to see it.

[Chad Johnson]

He gonna be open. That man gonna be confident. He gonna take his shots. He gonna attack the basket. I think defensively, when he plays great defense, it kind of fuels his offense, you know what I mean? I think that's kind of for all of them. And if you notice Minnesota, they guards, they don't give up a lot of easy points. I know Luka can go on the run, I know Arkansas can get hot, but for the most part, they sit down and guard. Man, they sitting down and guard.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, every but see, the difference is, is that Luke is shooting over the top. Those guys are breaking you down, getting to the basket. So there's a difference. Look, there's a greater chance that you're going to miss that 27, 28 footer than me missing this layup.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause you see what's happening, and it's finishing at the rim. Or they're following it.

[Chad Johnson]

They ain't got no choice.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Guys are finished. We really don't have. I mean, Luca can beat you off the dribble, but it's not. It's because of. Of savviness. He ain't gonna just. He ain't just anybody. He gonna herky jerky, you know, he gonna sit down on you. He gonna. Hey, step through you hit off the glass and stuff like that. We got this tomorrow night, though.

[Joe Johnson]

Whoa, what? Here we. Here we go. Here we go again.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Got this tomorrow night, though, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

So hold on, hold on. You said Lakers and five, right? So obviously that's not. There's no chance for that. So you still feel the Lakers have a chance to win this series?

[Chad Johnson]

Come on, can you.

[Joe Johnson]

You. You really believe that, though? I'm. I'm asked. Seriously.

[Chad Johnson]

No, I don't believe that. He just going with it because he been rolling with them all. All year.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold on, Joe. Let me church. You say we ain't gonna win tomorrow night.

[Chad Johnson]

No, I don't got y'all win. I got Minnesota coming in there. I got them coming to La La Land, throwing a whole party up in there in crypto.

[Joe Johnson]

And you know what happened if y'all lose tomorrow, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ain't nothing happened because we know.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm just saying, you know what's going to. I'm. Hypothetically speaking. Do you know what happens if y'all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't do hypotheticals. I don't do hypotheticals. Hypothetically, if I slept in my garage, I'd be a Reebok. But guess what? Hypothetical, since you. And that's all if you sleep in your garage. Because you should be inside of the bed. So that's why, man. But what's up on it, Joe?

[Chad Johnson]

Anything make you nervous? What you want?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I bet, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I earned my stripes. I wore stripes on my helmet.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You like what you call them? Hey, you remember players club with St. Louis? Would play dollar bill with a dollar bill. Would play St. Louis. And he come running out there. They doing something. Little man, they were tearing him up. Had his head all in the car, put the cigarette out on his nose. He going to dumb.

[Chad Johnson]

Come on, man. Yo, yo, yo, yo. Your rap ain't that good right now, brother. Who, mine?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Nah, my rap she good. I listen. The only person I ain't pay back is everybody else that got. They got. They do.

[Chad Johnson]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, let's go ahead. You know what? You know what?

[Chad Johnson]

Let's better.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let's better. Dinner chops, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Y'all bet y'all been sorry, man.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, here he go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah. Hey. Cause he already know when they see Mr. Sharp on the thing, they already go and cut that. That 10 ounce wagyu a5. They already know when I come. They go ahead, cut that thing out. Cause they already know what I'm 10 ounce. Who that? Wagu a five?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. Wagu. Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

McDonald's, baby.

[Joe Johnson]

No, I'm saying I. I had some of the. The whack. The wago from. I went somewhere and I told uncle about it.

[Chad Johnson]

I had.

[Joe Johnson]

They, like. They brought it to the table. It was like, in little strips. Little strips.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Poppy.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, Poppy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

I was.

[Joe Johnson]

I was. I was on a little date. Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Luka Doncic has stepped up to pay for the entire expected cost of restore restoring a vandalized moor depicting Kobe and Gigi Bryant in downtown la. He made a donation today to cover the entire goal of a GoFundMe page created by artist Louis Pasino. He wants to restore the mural titled mambas forever at 14th and Main Street. Luca, it's always been important to give back to the community. They gave me so much, so I just want to get Mr. Mule up. I don't know why.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on. Listen, man, they don't respect nothing out there, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

People don't even care no more about nothing.

[Chad Johnson]

Man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I thought y'all. I thought they.

[Joe Johnson]

We.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look, no matter. No matter how beloved or great you were, somebody is not going to take it. Somebody. Everybody go. Everybody don't like everybody. So you just. We just got to come to that conclusion. Like, man, Kobe. Yeah, most people do like Kobe. 90% of the people in LA love Kobe. Hey, but ain't gonna be. There's never a such a situation where it's all or every. So once you remove all or every from your vocabulary, you'll be good.

[Joe Johnson]

I just. They're just thinking about it, man. Obviously the passing of one of the greatest to ever play the game and the still messing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The tragic passing.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, the tragic passing. But they even bother the mural with great understanding. What Kobe means for that, for that city, what he's done for the Lakers organization and the people of la. They even want to vandalize a mural is beyond me. Yeah, beyond me. That's crazy.

[Chad Johnson]

I agree. Damn it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's more. It says more about them than. Than. I mean, I mean, think about what it takes to go vandalize. Yeah. You ain't got nothing going on in your life. I don't know. Yeah, you do. Destroy some property that ain't that. That you didn't buy, that you did is not yours. People always destroy you. Hey, you want to destroy something, destroy your head.

[Joe Johnson]

And that's ridiculous, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, don't mess with me.

[Chad Johnson]

They want to go viral. We in the 80s. Anything you do go viral, they gonna catch.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They catch the right person on the wrong day and they're gonna be viral. Won't help you.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

God damn Kobe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Stefan Castle is the recipient of the Wilt Chamberlain Trophy. The 2025 Kia NBA Rookie of the Year spurs have won Back to back MVPs. Castle, 25, Victor Womenyama 24. And they're the first teammates to go back to back fence. You know, when Ocho, who's the last teammates to go back to back.

[Chad Johnson]

Back to back rookie, Rookie of the year teammates.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn. Andrew Wiggins and Carl Anthony Towns. Don't worry. Don't turn your head. You turn your head the other way, it's still gonna be correct.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, I like the spurs though.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They gotta.

[Chad Johnson]

They got a promising future. You know, they get. They get some help over there, they gonna be all right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because think about it, you know, they got Spurs. I mean, Wimy won it. Castle not wanted. David Robinson won it. Tim Duncan won it. So they've had four. Four Rookie of the year.

[Chad Johnson]

And in about two years, Wimy might be the best thing in the league.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He incredible. I mean, for me, he shoots a little bit too many threes for me. I like, hey, get your big long, tall butt down that block and shoot. Turn over one of your shoulders. But hey, that's where these guys are. According to. There have been whispers around the league that the San Antonio spurs could be a potential landing spot for one Kevin Durant. You like Wimby and KD together?

[Chad Johnson]

I do, I do. It look like he going somewhere in Texas, but I, I would love to see KD and Wim.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Nico has to go try to make a move for him in Dallas. Yeah, yeah. I don't know what, I don't know what he. I don't know. In terms of draft picks. Now we know he got one of the, one of the Lakers draft picks. I don't know if that's enough. I don't know if the spurs won't that draft pick and one of those Bigs Lively or Gafford or somebody else. Because he's really.

[Chad Johnson]

He wants to compare.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He wants to pair Kyrie, ad.

[Chad Johnson]

Phoenix.

[Joe Johnson]

Phoenix.

[Chad Johnson]

The one tried to trade him. It wasn't like he asked for no trade. Kd.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

So no, they probably, they probably be willing to, you know, do something. I can't see him. I can't see him not trading him. You know what I mean? They probably ain't gonna get actually what they want, but they probably get some.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, you're not gonna get what you gave up on.

[Joe Johnson]

Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All those draft picks and they gave up play.

[Chad Johnson]

They gave up who?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I say they gave up draft picks. You know the game of Mikhail Bridges and Cam Johnson and they get. And they probably. I think they gave up like four first round picks. Three or four first round picks, and.

[Chad Johnson]

He didn't work out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you said, you know what, we're gonna win the championship. That's gonna be the last pick in the draft. Yada, yada, yada. I'm not worried about it now. What happens when you don't, you don't even make the playoffs and what you could get to rebuild, that goes to somebody else. So. You know what I'm saying? I buy all these blocks.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, man, my house gonna be so.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nice when I get this thing. They're like, no, no, no, no, no, no. Them blocks that you just bought, they belong to me. Let me go and get those. Let me go get those pieces that you was gonna build your house with. Nah, let me get that.

[Joe Johnson]

I still like Katie. I still like Katie going to okc. Now, I'm not sure how far OKC goes. I just, I think the pairing of.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Him and Sam Preston. Sam Preston, like, nah, that's, that's, that's done going on. You didn't tell me because, look, they looking at it like, hold on, bro. If you talk. If we knew you was gonna leave because think about it. A lot of times when you have a great player, you want to trade. If he know he leaving, I'm gonna trade you because I'm gonna get some conversation. KD walked out the door. They ain't get nothing for him. Think about what you could have got for KD six years ago. Six, five, six first round picks. He walked out the door and you got nothing.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And they were able to rebuild it. A lot of that had to do with Shay because think about what the Clippers gave up to get Paul George. Think about what the Rockets gave up to get Russ. They traded Chris Paul, so they just. And Sam. You can say whatever you want about Sam Presti. He did draft kd. He did draft Russ. He did draft Harden, Ivanka, Reggie Jackson, Stephen Adams, Jalen Williams, all those. All those Chad Holmgren, all those guys. He made the trade for Shane. He could put a team together.

[Chad Johnson]

He got a great alpha talent. Ocho. I don't see that. Ocho. No, I just. I see OKC doing really well in this playoff this year.

[Joe Johnson]

Right.

[Chad Johnson]

I want to get kd, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

What you think?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

What you think about KD coming to Miami with JA and Giannis?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did that, man. Just the volume.

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