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Nightcap - Hour 1: Nuggets blow out Clippers in Game 7, & who’s winning in the Warriors vs Rockets Game 7?!
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The Volum hello, welcome to another episode of Nightcap. Y'all know me. I'm your favorite unc. Shannon Sharp, my partner and co host, the Liberty City legend, the Bingo Ring of Fame Artery Pro Bowler All Pro Route Runner extraordinaire, that's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. And also joining us to talk this game wasn't very much of a game. I thought it would end up just like it did in the one and only Quentin Richardson. Q what it do?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What's good fellas? Good. Appreciate y'all having me.
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Shannon Sharpe
Thanks for coming on with us. Please make sure you do that. Subscribe. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go. Subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from thank you guys for your support your continued support all things Nightcap Club Shay Shay and Laportier. We greatly appreciate your support and thanks to you we get to be us. Make sure you check out Shay by La Portier. We have it in stock. If you cannot find it in a city or state near you, order it online. We'll ship it directly to your door. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Go follow my Media Media Company page or all of his platforms that Shay Shay Media and my clothing company 84 with 84 being spelled out, that link is pinned in the chat. Supplies are limited and once they're gone they're gone. So please grab yours while supplies last. Tickets for our Not Safe for Work tour are on sale now. Eight stops. Baltimore, Philly, Charlotte, Los Angeles, Miami, New York, Chicago and Detroit. Tickets can be found@shayshaymedia.com tour that's shayshaymedia.com Tour that link is also pinned in the chat. The guest lineup is shaping up real nice. You guys don't want to miss this so go out and grab your tickets now. The Nuggets crush the Clippers. Don't let that 19 point victory throw you off. It was worse than that. They put the backups in and and the Nuggets. Excuse me, the Clippers made a little run there, but 120 to 101 and the Nuggets move on to face the Thunder with a 43 series win over the Los Angeles Clippers tonight. I don't know what it is with James Harden these game sevens Q and O, but it didn't go well. He's now lost game seven with four different teams tonight he was 2 of 8 for seven points. With Philly, he lost to the Celtics going 3 of 11 nine points in 41 minutes. With Brooklyn he lost to the Bucks going 5 of 17 29%. And with Houston he lost to the warriors going 12 of 29. He did have 32 points but it took him 29 shots to get it. I didn't think he was nearly aggressive tonight as he was in game six. Q and it showed. What was the two of eight, one of four, two or two from the free throw line? Uh, he did have 13 assists but they needed a Herculean effort. They needed him and Kawhi to play like they played in game six in order to get them over the hump on the road in game seven and that didn't happen. What? What did you see that called that said you know what, the Clippers just not where I think they should be right now. Q.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Man, for me, I think they just got blitzed tonight. I, I think like you, you pointed out Harden's numbers, but I mean, he did have 13 assists and this, like, if this was a competitive game, it could have, his numbers could have gone up. But obviously we know, like you said, it was a blowout early on, you know, and it like, you know, Joker didn't even go crazy. It was like the, the other guys, the supplemental guys really came out, applied the pressure, that tempo was up. The Clippers were flat. Surprisingly, for a game seven, they were flat. They, it looked like they didn't have it early on and Denver mashed the gas and literally just, they just blew them up, blew them out.
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Shannon Sharpe
They look good. In the first quarter. They outscored, they had a five point lead heading into the second. And then Denver goes on and wins that quarter 37, 21. And then they open the third on a 173 run. Get it up to 173 and then get it up to 24 to 4 and they never look back from there. So between the second quarter and third quarter, the Nuggets outscored them 72 to 40. From down five to start at the end of the first. Now you go to the fourth and you're down 27. Yeah, and it, it didn't look, and it didn't look good. Yeah, I, I agree with you, Q. You look at Aaron Gordon play sensational. He's been playing sensational because even when joker, you're not joker. You know, there was one game he had a 14 point triple double and they, they blew the doors on him. But you get six, six players in double figures. Russ off the bench again. An Excellent night. 27 minutes, 5, 9.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Shout out to Brody.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, man, he played well. Kristen Brown, 21 points. Jamal Murray, 16. Yoke 16, 10 and 8. Michael Porter Jr. Sighting tonight, 15. And Aaron Gordon. Aaron Gordon's been doing a great job. He gets on the glass, he's scoring. He's doing a heck of a job on Kawhi Leonard. He's making Kawhi. Kawhi's hitting some shots, but he's making him. He's making tough shots. And you live with that. If I can make you make them tough shots, them spinning fade aways and all that. Hey, coach, he made a great play on me, but I was right there with him. Oh, you watched this game from the Nuggets standpoint, what did you like about what you saw from the Nuggets tonight?
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Guest Analyst
I mean, listen, I watched it from start to Finish and get. The Nuggets dominated in every aspect of the game from the start to finish. The Nuggets now they were shooting 52, 52% from the field. They out assisted the Clippers 24 to 16. They controlled the tempo. They had much more want to. For it to be a game seven. It seemed like the Clippers was flat, you know, like. Like Q said, you got to want to be there, you got to want to play. Obviously it's a. You got to win and you go home. They had no type of, no type of reassurance. Like they really wanted to be there anyway. Michael Porter Jr. Delivered a two way masterpiece out there, man. He had 15, 6, 11 shooting and six rebounds. But also the bench joker did his thing. Aaron Gore did his thing. Westbrook bought energy. He only scored 9. 9 points, but he bought energy on both.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh, he had 16, five or nine. Yeah, he had 16 points. Okay.
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Guest Analyst
Yeah, five and nine was. Was 16. The, the bench, the bench did well too. But Westbrook energy though, but that do, that do something. That do something for a team. Man, when he coming in, you know, he, he. He might have got attack but man.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That was intentional.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
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Guest Analyst
Oh yeah. Oh, you did it on purpose.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What You. You didn't see what I saw here. He did that on purpose.
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Guest Analyst
I thought he wanted to let the rim go cause somebody he was gonna land on.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Dude. No sir. That was intentional. You didn't see when he landed. Say yeah, give me the tech and I don't care. Get him to up out of here and listen.
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Guest Analyst
Yeah.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And you know, Russ is the emotional dude, passionate dude. I loved it. I loved it.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, you look, if Russ is on your team, you gotta ride the roller coaster because you know it's gonna be ups and down cues, they're gonna be high, they're gonna be low it lows. And you're just gonna have to ride that wave. Some days he's gonna give you this and then some days you're gonna be like damn, Russ, slow. Can you slow it down? Like, okay, have one energy drink, not four. And you know. Cause he, he gets outta control cause he, he plays so hard on both. And he's going to give you. That's one thing you'll never have to worry about. Russell Westbrook is cheating you. You gonna get your money's worth now like I said. And you gotta ride it tonight. He was what they needed. What was that? That game that they won on the road and they ended up on what's old boy Aaron Gordon dunked at home. Russ Provided the energy in that game. I like this look. It's gonna be a very interesting series now with the Thunder and the. The Nuggets. Nuggets have been there before. The Thunder's been the best team in the Western Conference all year. Everybody wanted to see, well, when they play somebody that's been there with experience, let's see how they shape up. But looking at this game, the Clippers, you know, when you go on the road, bro, you got to take it. They're not going to give it to you because it's their fans. You got to get the crowd out of it. If you don't get the crowd out of it and they mess around and get a lead on you, all of a sudden the roof's going to explode and it's just an avalanche. Boom, Colorado. And it just swelled. It just swells on you. And I was like, bro. And T. Lou tried to get a timeout, but I think what happened. T. Lou did something very interesting in Game six. He inserted Nicholas Batun to start the second half. Now you're out of tricks. He tried. He put. He put Derrick Jones Jr. In the starting lineup, Chris Dunn. But at some point in time, they're like, okay, this is going to be our adjustment when Nicholas Batoon is in there because he didn't have near the impact that he had in Game six because it caught him by surprise. They didn't make that same mistake tonight in Game 7 because they know when he comes in knowing that if it was a Patuni, it's probably going to be somebody else other than Chris Dunn, because Chris Dunn is more of a defensive guy than an offensive guy. And they want space. They want space for Kawhi, they want space for James Harden. But for whatever reason, James Harden was not nearly necessary. But if you look at these numbers. Q. What nobody really aggressive. Kawhi had 13 shots in 33 minutes.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And that's why I say. That's why I say we can't be that critical of Harden for having, you know, only eight shots. But he had, like I say, having 13 assists. You cannot be aggressive and have 13 assists out there. Like, James was playing, he was making plays. And this is, like I say, because, like you say, the lead swelled and it became such a blowout. It kind of takes away from him his chance to go out there because James Harden is the point guard. So him having 13 assists, he's out there doing his job because he was out there finding people and making plays and making things happen. It's not like he's 2 for 8 and isn't doing anything else. He had 13 assists and five six rebounds. He was out there playing, but the blowout robbed him of his chance to accumulate and go out there and get aggressive later in the game. Whereas where he come out, people may say he should have came out being aggressive as opposed to trying to get guys into the game. But I feel like he came out playing a pass first game trying to get his teammates going and saying like he can get my game off whenever, but that I get. I can get my game off whenever. It didn't come because the blowout came too quick.
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Guest Analyst
Listen. Based on what we saw tonight for the Nuggets. I know, I know the Clippers didn't show up, they didn't play well, but based on what we saw tonight and them having to play the. Yeah. In a seven game series, how dangerous do you see the Nuggets team now that the bench. We know what the. We know what the starting five could do. Now that the bench is contributing the way they are, what chance do you have against them against the Thunder?
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Shannon Sharpe
Well, the thing is, Russ is mainly the bench they got. They don't get a whole lot. DeAndre Jordan really doesn't play a lot. He played tonight. Yoke got in foul trouble in the third quarter and he came in there, but he doesn't normally play a lot. Every once in a while they'll insert Peyton Watson and he mainly plays, but for the most part they play five guys. That's what they play. They play five guys, they run their starters and they play Russ Russell. Get extended minute and Peyton Watson will come in somewhere anywhere between 10 and 15. If things are going really well, he might play tick hit 20. But for the most part, they run their starters. And that's what you do with. Hey, man, we ain't got no deep rotation. What you mean rotation? Guys gonna be playing. Tell them, Q. Guys gonna be playing somewhere between 38 and 42 minutes on a nightly basis. As you. They played more.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, respectfully, I just felt like moving forward, like whether they won, whether Denver won or lost this series or whatever happened. I felt like when they fired Michael Malone that they weren't serious about competing for a championship. We all are former athletes. Fellas. When have we seen a team that's serious about trying to win a championship fire their coach, who also won them their only championship in franchise history, three games before the playoffs begin.
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Guest Analyst
Wow.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I've never seen that my entire time in the NBA. I've never heard of that. I mean, you guys can correct me if it happened in football, but I've never seen that in some team. Go on and not now. You do have Joker, who was all world, one of the top two, three guys on the planet and playing, and he can get you so much. And you've seen this series that they've had guys jump up and play and raise to that level. But I think the buck definitely stops here with okc. Like you just said, they play five, six guys, and this is a young team. They go eight, nine, eight, nine, D and they got three and D. They got trumps in what's the best position in the league? Wings. Right wing players are 3 and D. Guys that could play both sides. They could shoot threes and play defense. They got trumps in that. They got plenty of them. They can send one in and send another one out and keep on rotating. So, like, then they got. They got the ultimate trump and sga And I don't feel like. I feel like he's the equalizer. I don't know that Denver got no answer for that.
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Guest Analyst
Hold on, Q. So basically, you and Unc, y'all, y'all on the same page. So you saying the Thunder's gonna win the series against the Nuggets?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, I got the Thunder for sure.
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Guest Analyst
Okay.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, it's gonna take a. It's gonna take a Herculean effort from Yoke and Murray. Now, you get that Murray that you got on the road? No, that was home. That was that murder that dropped 43.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I don't. Listen, my questions don't even come with Joker or none of that. I just question. I feel like Joker and AG Aaron Gordon. Like, first of all, AG Is a championship player. I feel like he's underrated. He's one of the best blue guys to, like, slash, do whatever you need Swiss army knife type guys in the league that can score 30 or score 10 if you need him to not be a guy that's got an attitude, gonna show up with the work and go to work every day and give you everything. But I feel like those have been like two of the most consistent players for the devs. I don't have any questions about either one of them. But like you say, if Jamal Murray show up like superstar Jamal Murray, that could change the series and it could make a real contest. And if he does that. But I think he tips the scales one way or the other. Whether he play, if he plays really well, this could be a 6, 7 game series and anybody could win it. But if he doesn't really go out there and play at an all star superstar level, the Thunder not about to be contested by them. They don't got. If he's not playing and giving you 20 to 30. They don't have enough firepower.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, they need, they need Laker. Jamal Murray, the guy that played against the Lakers in no back to back series that hit game with us and was letting it go and routinely being in the 30 points. They need that guy.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, hold on, let me say this one time though, cause you just brought him up. What happened to the Lakers? Lakers in five? I can't be on here and not ask that question. Cause listen, listen. I was one of the people that was early on when they did what they did. I'm like, man, J.J. my man, my phone.
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Shannon Sharpe
Like they, they, they, they looking good.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, they had a legitimate chance. But what happened?
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Shannon Sharpe
Q, they needed Q, they needed a big. You can't. I mean, I mean, look, look. And the Mark Williams kid would have been great because he could defend and he could score. When you got Jackson Hayes and Jackson Hayes in four minutes and now you go Rui and LeBron. So whichever one's playing the four, the others playing the five, that's a small, small team. And you saw Rudy Gobert look like prime Shaq, he looked like a 2000 Shaq. 2001 Shaq. 1999 Shaq. So if you told me Rudy Gobert was going to give you 27 and 24, I said man, get that bleep out of here. That man ain't never scored 27 and 24 and that's what happened. I mean, look, Ant man did his. The role players for the Timberwolves played much better than the Lakers. You look at Nas Reed, every time he was asked to knock down a big shot, he knocked it down. McDaniels he knocked it down. You get the consistency of the steadiness of Mike Conley. DiVincenzo came in and gave you some quality minutes, but Ant man did his thing. But Rudy Gobert didn't have the size and you can't normally. What happened? Rudy Gobert becomes unplayable in situations like this. Especially late in the fourth quarter. Dude out there the whole game. How y'all let Rudy stay out here like this?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Not just stay out here. He was the most dominant force in the league that night.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, we be back next rude next year.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Wait, what did you think of? What did you think of Ant man walking from the staples?
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, you see?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
See my homeboy, he wrong for that. He wrong for that.
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Guest Analyst
Hey, that was dope. That was dope. That was live.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You love that hotel right there. Who walked six minute walk from the. I'm sorry, the crypto. I'm old school. You see the Clippers jersey, I call it. Well, still I can't get it out of my head. But from the staples to the Ritz over there, like a little six minute walk. I think he wanted to go ahead and.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, he wanted all the way around the whole guts of the building, man.
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Guest Analyst
Listen, there are a few players, there are a few players in the NBA that are like that. And he's one of them. He's one of them.
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Shannon Sharpe
All I know is this.
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Guest Analyst
He's accessible and he's accessible and he's relatable. That's why he should be the face of the league whether he want to or not.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And you know what I think make him so relatable though? Because like, think about it. Think about what I'm about to say, fellas. When you think especially about the NBA, when you think about. If you take Allen Iverson out of the equation because AI, was he one of one. He did it his way and that was just it. You take AI out of the equation, right? If you think of the last 20, 30 years, every hotshot superstar or about to be the guy rookie that's coming to the league, they more careful than Ant Man. You know what I'm saying? Like Ant man, most guys won't come out and say, yeah, give me. I'm a dog this dude, I'm a dog that dude. Yeah, I wanna play. Like most guys would say the politically correct thing just because that's the right thing to do or whatever, right? And foregoes any of that. He literally says whatever he's thinking at that point. Like. Yeah, like what you mean? And the Part about it is, like, that we. That I feel like our community relate to it is the brashness. He walking it like, he talking. Okay.
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Guest Analyst
Yeah.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The boy building up a resume is to go. Like, by the time he get through, I don't know who going to beat who all on that hit list, but it's like the way he walking people down and talking it. And he only 23 years old, and he, like, really out here, like. Cause the thing about it is, like, when you watch MJ and the Last dance, when he's sitting there in that scene and he got the bat and he got the cigar, he like, yeah, anybody could talk on they way up, he like, take a real man to say it before it ain't happen. Ant man out here talking before, during.
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Guest Analyst
And after and after.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. You feel me? Like and like that. We love that.
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Shannon Sharpe
But at the end of the day, Q, it don't matter if you don't get the rings. You just gonna be talking. Oh, no.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He got. Listen, we all know that he got. All I'm saying, we know that you got to get that to go. Trying to go. That's factual. He got. But what I'm saying is that he building up a resume on his show. Oh, yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
I mean, he's taking out Katie and Book.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He's taking out LeBron and Luka two years before. All the greats in one. They first when he only 23. So what I'm saying, he got plenty of time. It ain't a lot of people that did what he done did on their way at 23 yet, either, though.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. I still think he needs. I think he needs another piece, though. I mean, I love Drew Randall was unbelievable. But you know what you're gonna get with him. He's a solid guy. He's 20 and 10. He gonna bang on you. Bang on you. And, you know, Ant man gonna give you what he gave you. But Rudy Gobert, I thought. No, Jay. Jayden McDaniels, I thought his game. Because there were a couple of games that. That first game, he was sensational. Ant made all the right plays with the assist total. And then that game four, they let him go haywire. They let him get. What was that, game three or game four? He went haywire and got 43. When J.J. you know, he know, Smartest guy in the room. I'm gonna run these guys. LeBron on 40. Old leg, 46 minutes. Luka on that body, 46 minutes. Yeah, you can't do that. You can't. You got. You got to steal when they up by 10, steal your two minutes. Say I don't care guys, you come down and get shot clock violations, just get me two minutes off the clock so I can get LeBron and I can get Luka. Two minutes, that's all I need. Because Bron was dead tired. The man took two shots, one of them was terrible and one of them, he just, he blew a smoke delay up. Yeah, he was tired. Ain't no way around it. 40 year old legs playing 46 minutes. Q. First of all, you know what it's like to play 46 minutes in your 20s. Now imagine that. 35, 40.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You, you right, you right. But in JJ's defense, man, like we, and I'm not calling any names, but I mean, we all have examples of veteran championship coaches doing some of these same things that leave us questioning what was going on and what was happening and why the decisions they were made, you know what I'm saying? I feel like when I look at the, the, the, the overall body of work, JJ had did a great job this season, you know what I'm saying? Like, did, did they come up short? And I feel like also the, the expectations got kind of blown out of proportion at a sort at, at a certain point because they had done so well. And we gotta give JJ and that staff that credit for coming out of the second half having a total different look. From changing from having Anthony Davis as an anchor to going and getting Luke and then still coming out and making that team look formidable to the third seed is which what was made everybody get all of these thoughts like they could actually win, when in reality the roster was never really fit to win and can really compete truly. But people gotta, you know, fans are fans and even us as analysts and people that's been a part of the game, we kind of get caught up in the moment sometimes. But like they, when you really look at it, like you said they didn't have enough when the Mark Williams trade didn't go through, that kind of was it in a nutshell. Like, I felt like what we saw from him post trade showed that he could have been formidable for them if they would have made that trade and they would allowed it to go through. But for whatever reason or unbeknownst to us, they didn't do it. And that's what it is. But I felt like from that point they truly weren't a championship roster. But the greatness of LeBron and Luka gave us the feeling that maybe they could carry him there, but they just couldn't. At the end of the day, look.
- [28:09]
Shannon Sharpe
Clippers got the richest owner in pro sports. Had a healthy kawhi. It didn't even matter. You know why? Because we had buddy passes, and we wasn't going to Cancun until our partners. So, you know, a buddy pass, you fly 2. 4. You fly 2 for 1. They'll be coming in shortly. I'm sorry. We have some technical difficulties. We really don't. But we're just waiting on the Clippers to join us at Cancun. Yeah, that was gonna happen. Oh, y'all thought y'all gonna be celebrating. How cut you. You. I know you got the little jersey in the back. You thought y'all gonna be celebrating? Oh, yeah, yeah. No, you're not. No, you're not.
- [28:48]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Man, that's a size 60. There ain't no little. What you talking about, my little jersey? So you know how black folks do we. When we get. You want to call. Oh, I see a little car over there. I see you got your little jersey back.
- [29:02]
Shannon Sharpe
That's exactly what we do.
- [29:04]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What are you doing? I got drafted by the Clippers. So we all know how we feel about the teams that drafted us. We got a special connection with them. So, you know, that's why that's back there. That's what that is.
- [29:17]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, Q, you know how we do it? You get a job. Oh, you still at that little job? You still got that little job, right? What you mean, little job?
- [29:23]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You still got your little business you doing over here. I'm like, we just gotta be little.
- [29:29]
Guest Analyst
Hey, that's us. That's our people. Every time.
- [29:32]
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, Q, I know you wanna come on. You were gonna come over here and gloat tonight. You know, the Clip. But you gonna say negatively, you know what I'm saying? You gonna come on here and gloat. But I had already put that call in the yolk. You know, normally oo put the call in, but I put that call in the yolk. And Aaron Gordon, I said, look here, man, I need y'all to handle this for us. Now, y'all took Dr. Side to playoff two years in a row. I need y'all to do us a favor. Cause y'all got a thing for them LA teams, putting them out of the playoffs. He's like, we got you.
- [29:56]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And I lost my ability to glow when I. Cause I. I'm really. I'm down here in Orlando, you know, I'm with the Magic, so I'm riding with the young boys down here, so. So don't worry. This Year we had some injuries and some setbacks, but next year, we gonna be barking loud. You know what I'm saying?
- [30:11]
Shannon Sharpe
Banchero and Prince Wagner.
- [30:13]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
- [30:14]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, they legit.
- [30:15]
Guest Analyst
Them, boy.
- [30:16]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They legit. Yeah, yeah. Once we get Suggs and the brother, Mo Wa Wagner back, Mo the one who chippy. He the one who bring the, you know, the physicality. Get a little chippy out there. But once we get back to full strength, and I'm excited to see, you know, what they gonna do in the off season and, you know, whatever they do to adjust this and that. But, like, we got a good young coach, we got a good young team. You know, we got picks still in the draft, and I think we got flexibility to improve or whatever they gonna do, and we gonna be ready. But I still. I still got Boston, so I wasn't coming here to brag on.
- [30:51]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah.
- [30:52]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm rolling with JT and JB over there. They fully loaded. They back, ready to go.
- [30:59]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, you definitely gonna have to. If y'all gonna talk about to come do something in the east, y'all definitely gonna have to get past them. Cause they ain't going nowhere anytime soon.
- [31:06]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's a fact. That's a fact.
- [31:10]
Guest Analyst
Oh, yeah.
- [31:11]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, check this out. Steve Ballmer flew out members of the Wall to Denver for game seven tonight. Steve Ballmer covered airfare, tickets, buses to the game. You think more owners should do things like this? Q Ocho.
- [31:25]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I love it. I love it. I'm the ultimate fan. So, you know, that's dope.
- [31:34]
Guest Analyst
Not very many owners are open like.
- [31:37]
Shannon Sharpe
Brother Ballmer, though not very many owners get worth 120 billion, either. Okay, let's start with that damn open.
- [31:45]
Guest Analyst
But listen, even despite his worth, you can see he's really invested. Not into just the team, but the players and the fans as well. He's different. He operates different as the owner. Not like most. So I don't see other owners even taking. Can you imagine Jerry doing something like that?
- [32:03]
Shannon Sharpe
No. If you look at him, he's a more amp version of Mark Cuban. Pew. You remember how Mark Cuban be on the sideline with his team? He pumping his fist. That's Steve.
- [32:14]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Nah, nah, listen, I'm going to tell you, like, forget it. Like, even past the fan standpoint, like when Steve. I mean, when Mark Cuban came into the league, even if players didn't really act on it, like, everybody wanted to play for the Mavs just because of the way they was getting treated from the. They had the planes, they had the new facilities and everything that's how Bomber made it. He's like, everything they do for them is like second. Everything is top tier, second to none, like top notch situation and everything. You hear about it and it's like the players love the way they get treated. Like, not just the players, like you say, the families, the fans. Like when this dude flying out that many fans, it's like, yo. And he genuinely excited to do it too.
- [33:02]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah. And that's the stuff.
- [33:04]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Like, man, if I could have did this when I was. If I was like. That's the type of stuff he's really gifting to people. That's like for real, a fan's dream. Because he's the biggest fan.
- [33:15]
Shannon Sharpe
And that's what I was about to say. He's a fan that had a boatload of money and said, you know what? I want an NBA team and you know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna pay four times the asking price. Because prior to that, the most team had ever sold for was Sacramento. Over 500 million. He drops 2.2 billion.
- [33:33]
Guest Analyst
Hold on, I have a question. I'm not to be counting. Nobody pockets but his wealth. How do you attain his wealth?
- [33:40]
Shannon Sharpe
Microsoft. He was the CEO for Microsoft.
- [33:43]
Guest Analyst
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
- [33:45]
Shannon Sharpe
And so when you do. And so I know the owners were happy, like. Cause we ain't never. Hey, ain't nobody going down. So from that point on, it's 3 billion. And you see the Celtics just sold for 6.1 billion.
- [33:58]
Michael Kassin
Yeah.
- [33:58]
Shannon Sharpe
And he bought. I think he purchased him for like 400 million. So he's got 15 times his return. Well, they call it 15x now. You should say 15. It's 15x's money. But like you said, he's a fan. Not. Look, a lot of times I don't know if like Steve Ballmer strikes me or the guy Q, correct me if I'm wrong. Even if he didn't own the team, he would go to the game and be acting just like he does. Yeah, These other owners, they're not going to the game and behaving like that. They gonna be up with the ball. He would sit right down there on the floor and behave in the manner in which he behaved because you could see the enthusiasm. Hey, he'd be. He'd definitely be a guy you love to play for. I mean, look, hey, don't worry about the taxpayer. I don't want y'all money. I build my own stadium. Hey, I want you. Don't. Hey, don't add no sales. Sales tax. Don't bring the hotel tax. I got all this.
- [34:57]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And watch this. I'm about to put more bathrooms. And y'all could believe in this thing, and I'm gonna be hyped about it.
- [35:02]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Cause he's like, he don't want. He don't want the Ocho. He don't want nobody to miss any part of the game. So you don't want no long lines, right?
- [35:13]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Gotta love them.
- [35:15]
Guest Analyst
I gotta check that arena out, man. You been there. You been there?
- [35:18]
Shannon Sharpe
I haven't been there. I haven't been there. They just opened it this year. The All Star Game is there next year, right, Q?
- [35:24]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I think it's. Yeah, I think so. I gotta get out there, too. I ain't been out there yet, neither.
- [35:28]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I want to check it out. Thunder Nuggets, Western conference semifinals. Thunder, eight days rest. Nuggets, 24 hours of rest. You. Who do you have winning and in how many games?
- [35:44]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I hate picking the games and all that. I got. I got the. I got the Thunder winning. I guess I would say. I would say about six games.
- [35:54]
Shannon Sharpe
Damn. That's what I was gonna take. I was gonna take the Thunder 6 also.
- [35:58]
Guest Analyst
Would you like it, O. Joe, man, listen. I like. Damn. That's a good one.
- [36:03]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Yeah.
- [36:04]
Guest Analyst
I like sga. I like. I like the rest of them, boy. I like the bench. But them damn Nuggets, man, they. They not too far coming removed from a championship. They got experience. Being in the playoffs, I know they don't have as much depth, but I got it. I got the Nuggets and seven.
- [36:25]
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, SG is a load, man. And the thing is, like, look, when you got. They got two Bigs, they got Chet, and they got Hartenstein. They can throw at Yoke. They got depth.
- [36:35]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
As.
- [36:36]
Shannon Sharpe
As Q was talking about earlier. They got wing defenders. You go, lou Dort, you got Caruso, you got Wallace, you got Isaiah. Joe, you got Williams. They got five guys. Five. So at all times, they're going to have two to three premier wing defenders on the court at all times. There are very few teams that can say that. Yeah, I mean, as a matter of fact, there ain't no other team that can say that, to have that can have that many wing defenders on the court at all times. Cause Lou Dort and Lou Dort and Williams. Williams is the guy that's going. They'll probably put on. Nah, they probably put Dort. I think they're going to put Dort on Jamal Williams, Jamal Murray. I think they'll go start with that.
- [37:17]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They all could make a Three, huh? They all could defend, but they all could make a three, too.
- [37:23]
Guest Analyst
Yes.
- [37:23]
Shannon Sharpe
I think Christian Brown is going to start off on sga. I don't think Gordon will start on him. Gordon's a little. Gordon matches up better against bigger guys, not as quick guys. SJ is a little bit too. I think he's a little bit too quick for ag. Although that body might wear him down.
- [37:39]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, let me just say this about SGA, right? Y'all saw how many times he scored 20 points in a row. How many times he scored 30 points?
- [37:46]
Shannon Sharpe
Yep.
- [37:48]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That mean can't nobody in the NBA stop him.
- [37:51]
Guest Analyst
Regardless of size, regardless of.
- [37:53]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm talking about it don't. Regardless of anything. Oto the numbers. Like, look at what he. Look at how many times he scored, what he scored. When you do that in the NBA, that gives you the right to look, spin me around with my eyes closed and stop me wherever I look. Nobody can't guard me. I don't care direction I'm pointing, they cannot guard me. That's what he has shown. And this ain't just one. This has been two, three years running. After 30 and putting up 30 this.
- [38:21]
Shannon Sharpe
Many times and 20 like, bro, 30, efficient 30. You could get 30 and shoot 45%. He's shooting over as a guard to get that many points and to be that efficient. There ain't a whole lot of guys that's ever done that in the NBA.
- [38:38]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He could say, you can't guard me. And they could ask you. They could ask him, who you talking to. He say, whoever listening. Whoever listen, whoever heard me, they can't guard me.
- [38:50]
Shannon Sharpe
You know, the thing is, Q, when you're dealing with a player like that, you right. But I'm going to make it as tough. I'm going to try to make it. You get that? You get 32. But it's going to be inefficient. You're gonna shoot 10 or 27.
- [39:00]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's what you're supposed to do.
- [39:02]
Shannon Sharpe
That's what I'm not gonna let you. I'm not gonna let you go 19 or 26 on me. Cause now all of a sudden, that's gonna be damn near 50. Because I know you're gonna get to the foul line. You're gonna get to the foul line at least 10 times. Not the thing I like about the playoffs. They don't call that ticky tack stuff in the playoff. You gotta damn near draw blood to get a five in the playoffs.
- [39:20]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, man, you see, he ain't played in about when the Last time played like that because they was dishing out that work. You know, the thing is birthday parties. He chilling, doing commercials and stuff. Like, he ready.
- [39:36]
Shannon Sharpe
The best game for the Nuggets to steal is game one, because they might be a little rusty with all that time off, if you notice.
- [39:43]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's not a real thing.
- [39:44]
Shannon Sharpe
Huh?
- [39:45]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's not a real thing. That's not.
- [39:48]
Shannon Sharpe
You don't think so?
- [39:49]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No. I feel like that's a narrative that we use after the result of the game comes out, if they come. If OKC come out, game one and beat them by 20, nobody's gonna say nothing about Russ. They gonna say, oh, no. This they gonna say the rest was good for them. But like, yeah, clearly if they lose, they gonna say, oh, they was Rush. Nah, we as athletes know, like, bro, you could go, you could have a week of rest or you could play the next day. It just depends on how you feel, right? I ain't got nothing. Like, you know what I'm saying? Some boys done had some of my best games on the back to back or your best games and you dead tired, but you didn't think you was gonna have. But it just. You know what I'm saying? Like, to me, that's a narrative that we use or it is easy to use after the result of the game comes out.
- [40:34]
Shannon Sharpe
How many times during the regular season do you get eight days off.
- [40:39]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Outside of All Star Break? You don't.
- [40:41]
Shannon Sharpe
That's my point. You normally. Because you can't simulate what you actually do in the game by doing shoot around and them scrimmages, five on five or three on three or whatever you guys do. You have. There's nothing like game situation, right? A game situation. And you got those, like, those guys haven't had a game situation in a very, very long time. And if you look at, I thought the Lakers having all that time off. No, what you call them, they was already locked into the three seed. I mean the six seed once they. Once they won that game. And I think the warriors lost. But we'll see. We're going to see. SGA is going to be interesting because I think, like you said, I think Christian Brown is going to start on sga. But I think the thing is people don't realize how tall SGA is. He's not a small guard. He's six, seven. Yeah, six'seven you look people looking at him like he's six'three six'four he's not. He's tall as hell. I've seen him up close. He's taller than you think, more physical than people think. Yeah.
- [41:48]
Guest Analyst
Hey Unc, you think them having so many days off going into this next series, you think having that much time off it do more harm than good or you think the opposite?
- [41:59]
Shannon Sharpe
I think the thing is, is that that first game. Cause a lot of times, especially at home, you like, you try to feel your way in, you try to let the crowd build up and teams race out to a big lead on you. They get you. So that's why he's like, hey, let's go ahead and try to get this first game. Cause we know that we gonna get the best that first, that best effort. And since we here, we might as well try to. It's two. But yes, I think the best game for them to try to get is game one. Cause they like getting game two.
- [42:27]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So what if they come out smack em game one. And what if them eight days were used to like, hey, we had some guys that had some little knickknack bang, little. You know what I'm saying this, that they even got healthier and they practice and ramp back up and get ready for the. And we still got healthier too. Cause like you said, when else during the season do you get eight days to rest?
- [42:48]
Shannon Sharpe
You don't.
- [42:49]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So whatever knickknacks you get, we all know them coming with you for the rest of the way.
- [42:55]
Shannon Sharpe
What about rhythm of shooting and doing all those things that you normally do every day or every excuse? Not every day, but every other day or every two to three days.
- [43:04]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They're a young team. For all intents and purposes, they shouldn't been having no days off. This is a young squad. They the youngest team in the NBA. They average 24 years old for their team, so maybe they take a day or two the first day off. But even then, guys should have been in and out of the gym, getting activated, doing some weights, doing something, just getting some shots up, not going crazy. But they shouldn't have had days where they didn't do anything that'd be dropping the ball if they've actually done that. They should be. All of these dudes are young boys. They ain't got no real OGs or old heads on their team like that. To really be like we not doing nothing today. Every day they should have been doing something. Even if it's light load, they should have been coming in and just getting some free throws, getting some treatment, getting their body activated and just staying ready.
- [43:49]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, well ain't ain't nothing to do in Oklahoma, so. Yeah, they should have been in there anyway. You absolutely right. Ain't nothing popping off in Oklahoma. I don't know if you ever been to Oklahoma, Ocho, but ain't nothing about popping off.
- [44:00]
Guest Analyst
Man, you forgot I went to Langston University.
- [44:02]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah, I forgot you did with the Langston. Yeah.
- [44:04]
Guest Analyst
So you don't. Yeah, I know about still water coil. Yeah, I know. Yeah, I didn't stop the ground.
- [44:10]
Shannon Sharpe
So you know, ain't nothing jumping off. So you're right. That's. That's why they so good. Imagine that young team in Miami, Atlanta, Louisiana.
- [44:18]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Lot of distractions.
- [44:21]
Shannon Sharpe
Lots. Guys can get focused. Sometimes that's the best thing. Go to a destination and a lot popping off, you can focus on what you need to get focused on. You can get done what you need to get done and.
- [44:32]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right.
- [44:32]
Shannon Sharpe
But SGA was gonna be. SGA was gonna be what he was gonna be in la. You see that maturation. You see year after year, that dude got better and better, better and better, better and better. He master a. He got step back. He's a three level scorer. He can get all the way to the rim. He got a midi. He got a three game. He got a snatch. He going to the free throw line 8 to 10 times a game and you mess around, he might go 15.
- [44:58]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What the kids need to understand out there, the way he got this swagged out, the way he got this cocky, this confident. Repetitions. Yes, the kid is a gym rat. This don't happen by mistake. Every move. Don't just name him doing it that smooth and making it look that nice. That don't happen by surprise. That don't happen because he rolled out of bed and he. Nah, that's reps. That's going to the gym constantly and putting in that work to where it ain't even a question. When he go out here, he already know what moves he could call on and he know how to set them up and lay them down because he done did it a million times.
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- [46:10]
Michael Kassin
I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode I'm joined by Anjali Sud, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. How she's turning so called niche into mainstream gold. Connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen.
- [46:37]
Anjali Sud
What others dismiss as niche we embrace as core. It's this idea that there's so many stories out there and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content. The term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen.
- [46:54]
Michael Kassin
Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment and sports collide and hear how leaders like Angelique are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
- [47:22]
Anjali Sud
I'm Camila Ramon, Peloton's first Spanish speaking cycling and tread instructor. I'm an athlete, entrepreneur and almost most importantly a Parrero enthusiast. And I'm Liz Ortiz, former pro soccer player and Olympian. And like Commie, a Parrero enthusiast. Come on, who is it? Our podcast Hasta Bajo is where sports, music and fitness collide and we cover it all. De Arriva Hasta Ava sit downs with real game changers in the sports world like Miami Dolphins CMO Priscilla Shumate, who is redefining what it means to be a Latina leader.
- [47:56]
T-Mobile Representative
It all changed when I had this.
- [47:58]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Guy come to me.
- [47:59]
Anjali Sud
He said to me, you know, you're not Latina enough. First of all, what is that? My mouth is wide open. Yeah, history makers like the Sucal family who became the first Peruvians to win a Grammy.
- [48:10]
Guest Analyst
It was a very special moment for us. Us. It's been 15 years for me in this career. Finally, things are starting to shift into a different level.
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Anjali Sud
Listen to astavaho on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.
- [48:30]
Shannon Sharpe
And the dream season is now complete. The Golden State warriors are the 2015.
- [48:35]
Quentin Richardson
NBA champions on the new limited podcast series Dub dynasty. It's been 10 years since their shocking run to a championship. We examine the controversial move that made it possible.
- [48:45]
Shannon Sharpe
It's never a Great conversation as a player when you hear that you're being.
- [48:48]
Quentin Richardson
Benched for the entire behind the scenes story of Golden State's incredible 10 year run. Listen to Dub Dynasty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [49:09]
Shannon Sharpe
The warriors are on the brink of roadblowing another 31 lead. Throughout NBA there have been 290 instances in which a team has gone 31 in the playoff the series. Only 13 times has the team come back to win. The warriors know all too well about blowing a 31 lead if they're one of the 13 teams to do so. Q who you got tomorrow night?
- [49:33]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh man, this is a tough one for me because you know game seven is you. You throw everything out the window book. But I can't not roll out with, with, with, with, with the light skinned Assassin and Jimmy Buck and Draymond. Just with the experience they got, man. Like if I'm wrong, I take that to the 10. But I, I just with the, just with the inconsistencies. Inconsistencies of the young boys over there in Houston.
- [49:59]
Shannon Sharpe
I gotta, I gotta inconsistency of Jalen Green. Go ahead and say that. Everybody else, hey Fred Van Fleet. The last five games have been on one.
- [50:07]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, that's. Listen, I feel like we don't even respect like Fred Van Vliet is a champion, a dog. You know what I'm saying? Like he gotta give him proper respect. He doing what I expect him to do. He over there and like win, lose a draw. Houston Rockets is gonna be back. Win, lose or draw, they gonna be right back like they forgot something. Eme got them boys growing. I love what I love, you know what I'm saying? Like we talking about Van Vliet being a veteran OG out there. That's people to get it done and impact the game and be able to show them and say what he's saying and it means something cause he out there. So I like what they got going on. But even still with that being said, I don't know when you got that little dude number 30. All it take is if he hit one. If now we in the Matrix, he turned into Neo and everything else. It don't matter. We done all seen it happen. The game could hinge on that right there. If he come out and make one shot and start looking funny, if he give you a little shimmy, it's curtains.
- [51:11]
Shannon Sharpe
You know what I'm saying?
- [51:12]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It's about to be a long night and it's like I don't know like you say with the. To me, when I say inconsistencies with Houston, it's like they don't know where they gonna get they scoring from from night to night. It's like, it's nice. Like you know who leads them in scoring and you know who you would expect to do it. But like. Like it's not concrete. You can't hang your hat on it. Like, all right, we gonna such and such from this player or that player. It's like it might be anybody. And when you got something like that, it's hard for me to roll the dice with that.
- [51:43]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, look, Shingoon has been some sensational. He's been doing a great job. He leaves them in points, rebounds, assists and steal. I thought I may inserting Stephen Adams. He was the difference maker last the other night. He gave him rebounding, he gave him toughness. He did all the right plays. You know that. He went to Hacker Adams. He made nine of 16. And sometimes I think that takes the team out of their rhythm because you don't get a flow. You stop. You don't get to go up and down. But I don't know what Fred VanVleet did from games three through six, I mean four through six. But he been on one. Yeah, I mean, he's been on one. I mean, I'm talking about. He's coming down on the break and he like, now you under the basket. I don't want the two. I want this pull up. I want this 26 foot pull up. Yeah. And it's been. It's been money. I like what they're doing when it comes to stuff because. And he tried to come off that pick. They doubling make him get a ball up because I don't believe. Look, Draymond. I'm not worried about Draymond. You know the. Draymond always take the first shot because he wide ass open. They gonna leave moping too. You're not going. You not fit to make eight of those. Steph Curry can. So you shoot as many of them as you want. Draymond, we not gonna worry. We're not gonna worry ourselves with that. But what we will worry ourselves with is to make sure Steph don't get a real. Don't catch foul on us. Keep Jimmy Butler off the free throw line. Cause you know he's gonna attack the basket. It's gonna be interesting to see Steve curl. How does he play this thing? Cause remember the other night he started Gary Payton ii, He went away from his normal lineup with Pozinski So does he go back to that queue or does he still. Does he ride. Does he ride with Gary Payton II again? Or is. Is Moody inserted into the starting lineup? What's he gonna. What's he gonna do?
- [53:33]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I might start Moody and bring. Bring up. Bring. Bring GP off. Cause he's a pace changer to me. You know what I'm saying? He comes in and supposed to raise the energy and things like that. If it's not right, try and get some energy, defensive energy going. I would start Moody to see. I mean, I like what Moody's been doing. He presents a lot of length defensively, you know what I'm saying? And I would start him. He's been shooting the ball. I mean, not as well as you.
- [54:00]
Shannon Sharpe
Know, but he's made some big shape. Yeah, he's hit some big threes in real time.
- [54:03]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He's shown that he had knocked down the shot, and he'll make some plays, drive to the basket. And like I say, most importantly, he got a lot of length defensively. And that's, you know, that's always big in these games.
- [54:14]
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho, what you thinking? The warriors Gonna blow another 31 lead?
- [54:17]
Guest Analyst
Absolutely not. You know, Curry not having another bad game like that. Listen, even with. Even what they tried to do, trapping him, you know, making. Making all shots contested, it's not happening. Listen, the warriors have a championship pedigree, and there's no way in hell they lose a game seven. Not like this. It's. It's. It's definitely. It's definitely not going to happen. I think Draymond. Draymond can do what Draymond does. Jimmy Butler, like you say, he gonna get to the basket where stop it or not, he gonna be aggressive. He gonna be playoff. Jimmy, like we used to seeing him when he was with Miami and, And. And Curry, he gonna cook. He gonna cook. Especially after. After that last game, he's not gonna have another performance like that.
- [54:59]
Shannon Sharpe
I think Draymond need to make sure he stay within himself. Cause I think sometimes he get going too early and he kind of gets himself. He gets himself out of. Out of rhythm. He gets early fouls, he gets text. And now he knows in a game like game seven, they gonna probably get a take early. Cause he know they're not gonna throw him out. They don't want to impact the game like that. So he. He. He has a very good understanding. Cause most players to do what Draymond done, oh, they'd be gone, they'd be teed up. Whoop. Oh. Would you say whoop Take that with you on the way. Yeah, you outta here, bro.
- [55:32]
Guest Analyst
Yeah, but they wouldn't do. They wouldn't do. They wouldn't do them do that to him in the playoffs, though, huh?
- [55:36]
Shannon Sharpe
No, that's what I'm saying. He knows that. But I think sometimes it gets somebody his game now, sometimes he. He riles himself up. It gets the team going. But it had the opposite effect the other night. It got the Rockets going. Trengoon, they was proud of them on the glass. I mean, they crushed them. They crushed them on the glass. They had 25 offensive rebounds.
- [55:55]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's part of Draymond's superpower, though. He got to play with that edge. He got to play with the, you know, with the way he play. That's part of what makes him him. If he doesn't play like that, he's not as impactful as. Or as effective as he can be. Now, I agree with you. He got to toe that line and tuck it in when he need to, but, like, he absolutely got to play like that. The most impactful and the best version of Draymond Green, like you say, he can't step over that line, but he gotta toe it.
- [56:21]
Shannon Sharpe
And plus that big lineup that Houston go out there with Stephen Adams and Shingoon, the warriors can't match up with that. That's why Adams and Shungoon was killing them on the glass. Because you don't want to play Looney. You really don't. Cause he don't really give you a whole lot offensively. He set picks and he can rebound, but Shingoon gonna punish whoever on the off. And so now you got big Adams, they like, okay, now you take a shoot off the floor. We want you to play. You know, they try to put posts out there who's a big that can stretch the floor and shoot that, but he's a little bit too inconsistent. So if I'm out, man, I'm gonna keep missing Curry. I'm gonna try to get the ball outta his head as much as I possibly can. I'm gonna trap him. Every chance I get, he goes to that corner. Hey, let the big guy roll. We can come. We can come from. We give you help backside, but we're not letting Curry get no easy shots.
- [57:15]
Guest Analyst
Listen, we talk about Curry, we talk about Jimmy, we talk about Draymond. We ain't talking about the elephant in the room. What is Kurt gonna do about Kaminga? Obviously you. You're mostly one of your most athletic players.
- [57:24]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He live on both ends against the Rockets in the games during this regular season against the Rockets. He averaged the most points for the.
- [57:32]
Guest Analyst
Warriors against them, so it only makes sense. It only makes sense in the Game seven to put him in there.
- [57:40]
Shannon Sharpe
Steve Kerr said Jonathan Kaminga returns to the rotation of the 100% on the table for in game seven. 100%. Kaminga is on the table. We kind of found a formula here in the latter part of the season, we've stayed with that formula to start this series up. Three 1. Things are going well, and obviously last few games have gone very poorly. We have to assess everything. The lineup, combination starters, all of that, we have to assess.
- [58:05]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I don't know why he fell out of favor and what happened with that, but. But did y'all see him the last time he got in the game? He didn't look like he was. Like, he didn't look locked in and looked like he would be. I hope the young fella do get out there and ball out, but I ain't. From the looks of everything that he did last time, it don't look likely. Don't look like he's mentally there. You know, like, when you. A young fellow like that, I don't know how easy it is for you to get back into it, right?
- [58:33]
Guest Analyst
Aq when you have a coach that.
- [58:35]
Shannon Sharpe
That.
- [58:35]
Guest Analyst
That is not playing you and you don't know what's going on or what happened. Obviously, we don't know from the outside looking in what happened internally. But for you to be one of the best players on that team that can contribute on both. On both ends of the court and then not get any playing time, it has to be. It has to be something. It has to be something that we don't know publicly. But, I mean, I hope his confidence is there. You know, after not playing for so long, sometime something like that can do something to your middle. Obviously, when he does get in the game, or is it going to be gunshot gonna be scared to pull the trigger? Is he gonna be hesitant?
- [59:10]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I mean, if it was me, my boy, I'd be like, listen, I can't take it personal. He benched Jason Tatum. Who am I to be mad at him?
- [59:18]
Guest Analyst
Okay, okay, okay.
- [59:19]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm gonna just take it like a champ and keep it moving.
- [59:22]
Guest Analyst
That's a good one.
- [59:23]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You feel me? I mean, real talk, though, like, yeah, I don't.
- [59:28]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know what Kaminga's done, but he's definitely been out of the rotation, and he's one of the more athletic guys. He can defend. He can get all the way to the Rim, he can occasionally knock down the three. That's not his strong suit, but for whatever reason, hey, he don't even get no mop up minutes. Like, damn, hey, let me break a sweat so I don't have to get on the bike after the game. Q, he can't even get no cardio in. He gotta get on the bike after the game. After sitting, he's like, I'm all still and I gotta get 30 minutes on the stationary bike.
- [59:57]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And then you saying he was getting shots up after one of the games and everything. Like, that's a little bad signal. Like, yeah, I'm hot. You know what I'm saying?
- [60:07]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, he probably said, get me. Hey, y'all ain't gonna play me. Get me outta here. Let me go somewhere. Hey, let me go somewhere. At least I can contribute, I can play. I ain't saying, hey, look, I'm not saying I'm SGA. I ain't saying I'm one of the five, 10 best players in the NBA. But damn, I see guys that I know I'm better than and they getting 10, 15 minutes a night. I can't get that.
- [60:30]
Guest Analyst
Yep, I know a perfect place for him.
- [60:32]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Moving around.
- [60:34]
Guest Analyst
Know the perfect place for him too.
- [60:36]
Shannon Sharpe
Man, ain't nobody coming there Know the perfect place, bro.
- [60:40]
Guest Analyst
Right, right here.
- [60:41]
Shannon Sharpe
He think somebody always want to go to the. You want to go to the Miami Heat with Pat r. With them 19, with them 1955 rules.
- [60:51]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, listen, it ain't. It ain't, it ain't bad as you think it is, man. People make. Listen, when you look at the, look at the guys that go there, they have some of their best years of their careers when they go there and.
- [61:01]
Shannon Sharpe
Look at the guys leave. I saw Dwayne Wade leave. I saw Jimmy Buck Butler leave. I saw LeBron James leave. Now that's three of the best players that you've had in the last 15 years. Now tell me what I don't know, Q, what you think? Hold on, hold on. I'm gonna let it finish up. You can chime in at the mq.
- [61:18]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We all got family, right? Yeah, sometimes. Sometimes you get married, your auntie or your uncle or your cousin or even your mamboy, your brother or sister, right?
- [61:28]
Guest Analyst
I like that.
- [61:29]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I like.
- [61:30]
Guest Analyst
Where you going?
- [61:30]
Shannon Sharpe
I ain't leaving.
- [61:32]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, look, he didn't leave for good. He left and went over his auntie house and then he came back over here, back to uncle's house. He came back.
- [61:41]
Shannon Sharpe
You think Jimmy coming back?
- [61:43]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I didn't say Jimmy came back. I was talking about D. Wade when we said that, when we said, oh.
- [61:47]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, okay, what about LeBron? LeBron going back to Miami?
- [61:51]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, I said family.
- [61:53]
Shannon Sharpe
But I'm saying the mere fact that family left. If I leave the house, yeah, I might come back when I'm on hard times.
- [62:00]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
D. Wade was a different type of family. Was drafted homegrown there, that's Dade County.
- [62:06]
Shannon Sharpe
And he left.
- [62:07]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You can't say the same for LeBron or Jimmy. So it wasn't that same type of thing.
- [62:11]
Shannon Sharpe
Q.
- [62:12]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He left and came back and they both admitted that it was some wrongdoings and reasons why they left. And they came together and pieced up and it's all love.
- [62:23]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, this ain't mine. But I see D. Wade is part owner in the Utah Jazz. Jazz. He's sitting corn side of the Utah Jazz. Why isn't he sitting Cornside in Miami? His family.
- [62:34]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, no, no. Time out, time out. D. Wade do be sitting courtside in Miami. He got a statue in Miami. And here.
- [62:42]
Shannon Sharpe
The smart businessman and deservedly so. But we can't act, we can't pretend like people do not aren't fed up with Pat Riley in those archaic ways. That's not being. You hear it.
- [62:56]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But it go two ways, though. You gotta understand that some of those same ways that people being critical of are the reasons for some of the most brilliant careers that you talk about. The best version of LeBron James that you know was right there under those arcade rules. Yeah, tell me I'm wrong.
- [63:14]
Shannon Sharpe
I still like LeBron when he went back to Cleveland.
- [63:17]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, you ask anybody in the league that LeBron James them two years back to back back. Please.
- [63:25]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, please.
- [63:26]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That was, that was, that was hell on wheels, boy. You hear me? Like, please, you talking about.
- [63:32]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, okay, let's say that. Okay.
- [63:35]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What made LeBron leave both sides?
- [63:38]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, he had his best years. And then what made LeBron leave during a 27 game winning streak? What happened, Q. I don't know.
- [63:48]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I didn't heard.
- [63:48]
Shannon Sharpe
You know what happened.
- [63:55]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I done heard about cookies being taken away. I done heard about all type of stuff. But I also heard that some of the same things that he ran from that he tried to take with him and bring and bestow on these other organizations when he went there. So it wasn't all bad.
- [64:09]
Shannon Sharpe
You already listen. You already know Rich Mav is going to be there every day. Mav is my chief of staff, not Mav. Excuse me. What's the other one? Randy. Randy's gonna be there. Have you ever seen LeBron James anywhere without Randy. I have not. Whether it's out in Vegas, whether. Whatever the case may be, Randy is gonna be there, you know, so Pat.
- [64:33]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Should have let him be there.
- [64:34]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, he gonna be there. You want it, he gonna be there. He don't want it. But you. Hold on. You already know what you. When you sign up, if you get Giannis, what you see where the youngest brother is, where he at?
- [64:50]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, time out. Time out, though. You just said you already know what you get when you sign up, right?
- [64:55]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [64:56]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You can't say that and then say that. LeBron came to Miami as a free agent knowing that the Godfather was the Godfather, and the Godfather do what the Godfather does, and he always has. You signed up for that?
- [65:12]
Shannon Sharpe
I did, but not to be petty and take some damn cookies away, I ain't listen. You took cookies away like I didn't clean up my damn room.
- [65:22]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It could have been a headband. It could have been anything. But the cookies is what set it up. But, like, this is what you signed up for when you signed up for.
- [65:30]
Shannon Sharpe
I ain't signed up for this. I signed up, come down here to get structured. I wanted to play with D Wade, Chris Bosh, and okay Smokes, and it.
- [65:36]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Got you two championships, and it showed you how to go on the rest of the way and be a champion. Yeah.
- [65:42]
Guest Analyst
Hold on, hold on. Hey, when we talk. When we talk about the heat of the old, let's talk about the new heat. Let's talk about the new heat.
- [65:48]
Shannon Sharpe
It doesn't matter. It's still Pat running it.
- [65:51]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Don't think they about to get somebody.
- [65:53]
Shannon Sharpe
No.
- [65:54]
Guest Analyst
Oh, yeah. I've been trying to tell you.
- [65:56]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I've been trying to tell you already know. That's what people always understood and knew. Pat Riley, the Godfather, is always one move away. How he ain't got Kevin Durant, got Shaq, and then they won a championship. Like they. He always willing to swing for the fences and do what needs to be.
- [66:15]
Shannon Sharpe
Done, but he don't have the draft capital to do it. What he gonna do? I think about it, he couldn't get Kevin Durant. He could get Dame Lillard. So in order to get, let's just say, for the sake of argument, Kevin Durant, what do you think it's going to take for him to get Kevin Durant? He gonna have to give up the hero and bam. Then what? Who can he get?
- [66:34]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I don't think so.
- [66:36]
Guest Analyst
I told. I told you who he going to get.
- [66:37]
Shannon Sharpe
I told you.
- [66:38]
Guest Analyst
I already told you already. I told. I think Q. I Sat down with Pat Riley and Mickey Harrison. I done told Robert Horry, I done talked to ISO.
- [66:46]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Joe.
- [66:46]
Guest Analyst
I done told Joe already. And I'm telling you. I'm telling you too. I talked to Pat, I sat down with Mickey Harrison, and we gonna get Giannis, we gonna get John Moran.
- [66:54]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm trying to figure out what are you. But see, here's the thing. The only half is a team that have the pieces they want assets because they gave up all those assets to get said players queue. You know how this thing work. A lot of time, like, man, I want to go over there, there, and when you get there, they had to. They had to gut it to get you. And so now you there in the same situation you in where you left from. They're not going to be able. I don't see how they get to Kevin Durant in Miami and keep Bam and Tyler Hero. Oh, you talking about. I want Duncan Robinson and Highsmith.
- [67:29]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And you'd be surprised what. What these deals shake out once these players step out and say that they want to be moved. We, like, guys ain't been like, been yielding what you thought. Like, when you look at what Rudy Gobert got in his trade and then.
- [67:44]
Shannon Sharpe
He got four first rounders.
- [67:46]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Then what started happening after he did that, nobody was getting all of them first rounders. And it was looking like, how did Rudy get. You get Rudy for all of this, and you get such and such for all of that that it wasn't going the same way. They not giving as much up. Especially when these teams, like when you get put in that pigeonhole, like a player come out and say, hey, I want out. Like, you done. You're done. They like, we ain't got to be at your beck and call because we're basically helping you at this point because your dude just said he won't out. So no matter what happens, you gotta get out or you got. Your situation is blown up. So at that point, if they exhausted to a certain point, it'll get bad.
- [68:31]
Guest Analyst
See, I told y'all.
- [68:33]
Shannon Sharpe
But here's the thing. Why did it get that bad? Why did it get that bad? They couldn't make pull the trigger for Dame Lillard.
- [68:39]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That question, I mean, I don't know the answer to that. I thought that was a done deal.
- [68:43]
Shannon Sharpe
Like everybody, they didn't want to give up Tyler Hero. I don't. I don't see a. I don't see a scenario where a team doesn't get Tyler Hero back as a piece. Do you see that scenario?
- [68:56]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You never Know, man, you never. I didn't see. I didn't see. I didn't see a scenario on the planet where Dallas was trading Luka, but look what happened. Yeah, so I didn't learn my lesson. Like, I done seen Shaq get traded. You know what I'm saying? M.J. left the Bulls. Like anything happened. In the right circumstances, they'll do whatever they feel is the best. That's just how I go. And then they gonna tell you that's good business. You know what I'm saying? What's best for the organization. That's why I don't be mad when players go do what they gotta do.
- [69:27]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't see it. Beaver been taught Ben. Pat Roddy supposed to have done. Had Kevin Durant. When Kevin Durant was a free agent. When Kevin Durant got traded, when Kevin Durant was a free agent and Golden State, he didn't go. He didn't. Well, LeBron was there, so he couldn't go there. Okay. When he became. When he goes to the Knicks, I mean the Nets, then what? What? No Pat Riley? He getting traded to Phoenix. Still no Miami Heat. I mean, at some point in time, O. You need to give up.
- [69:56]
Guest Analyst
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, I'm letting y'all go back and forth about it. Hypotheticals. I already know what's going to happen. I told you, I got Giannis and Ja. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [70:06]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We gonna.
- [70:06]
Guest Analyst
We gonna work on the bench later on.
- [70:07]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Let me ask you this. When you get Giannis and Ja, is. Is. Is Hero and bam, still there.
- [70:13]
Guest Analyst
We. I ain't get to that part yet. I didn't even want to ask that for the record.
- [70:17]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Let me just let both of y'all know. Not going nowhere. The new Alonzo and ud. He's not going. He's not going nowhere. That's like that. That. That's how they keep this thing going. Because they find that one pillar and they pass it on to the next one and bestow it on to him. He'll be there. He'll pill.
- [70:36]
Guest Analyst
All right, there it is.
- [70:39]
Shannon Sharpe
And I don't see a scenario where team. They're going to want Tyler Hero. You know that. I know that now. Maybe Phoenix said, well, we got Devin Booker. We really don't need Tyler Hero because they basically play the same position. They both two. Basically twos. Phoenix need a point guard. That's what Phoenix need. Phoenix was at their best when they had Chris Paul. Let's be all the way. Real Q. Devin Booker can handle the ball, but he's a two guard I.
- [71:08]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Didn'T like when they got rid of cp. I thought it would have been better. Even when they got Brad, Bill, Devin, Book and kd. I thought if they had Brad, Bill, I mean cp they would have been better off with that spot.
- [71:19]
Shannon Sharpe
I agree. I agree. The volume and the dream season is now complete. The Golden State warriors are the 2015.
- [71:32]
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Shannon Sharpe
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- [71:46]
Quentin Richardson
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- [72:15]
Anjali Sud
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