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Jeff Teague
Now we talking now. That's all I wanted to hear. Now I'm just waking up from a nap as well. So I don't want to hear no excuses when I ask you. I don't want to get off. Let's extend the show a little bit longer and give the people what they want. Ok. That's good energy. That's good energy.
Shannon Sharpe
Y'all know the Rob, I got one.
Jeff Teague
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Shannon Sharpe
What's that?
Jeff Teague
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Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Jeff Teague
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Shannon Sharpe
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Jeff Teague
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Jeff Teague
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
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Jeff Teague
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Shannon Sharpe
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Jeff Teague
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Shannon Sharpe
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Jeff Teague
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Shannon Sharpe
Money, spread their bread.
Jeff Teague
I like that. Yeah, yeah. I'mma spray. I'mma spread the rolls out. I'mma spread the rolls out.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah.
Jeff Teague
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Jeff Teague
Oh, okay, okay.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know if you've ever seen it Chat, but if you get an opportunity.
Jeff Teague
Yes, sir.
Shannon Sharpe
Please watch this fight. Now. I'm not. It's not a thing of beauty. It's not great defense. It's just two guys throwing haymakers upside each other's head. And both fighters go down. Get up. The other one down. Get up. Knock the other one down. It's as good a heavyweight fight. You'll see form and prevail, but. And now I don't know how many people. But he started this George Foreman grill. I got three of them, Ocho. I had two small ones and I got the big one. That's about this big. Yeah, I did when I was back when I was playing. That's what we used to cook on. So I cooked hamburgers. We cooked steak and things like that on the George Foreman Grill. And if you had one, you guys know what I'm talking about. It had the lines on it. All your meat would always have, would have those lines on it. But it was great. And I'm so sad to see a big jacket George because, you know, he turned his life over to God. He became an ordained minister, he got a big family, loved his kids, loved his wife. And unfortunately, George Foreman passed away at the rate at the ripe age of 76.
Jeff Teague
Oh, man. Listen, obviously, you know, and the people in the chat, I'm sure you guys know how enthusiastic and passionate I am about the sport of boxing and combat sports in general. Obviously, I wasn't old enough to be able to watch George Foreman, but I was able to go back and watch some of the fights with him and Ali, Joe Joe Frazier and some others. And he's, he's one of the all time greats. He's one of the all time greats. And it's very sad to hear of his passing. And normally most of the time, you know, we celebrate when someone passes on. And I went back and watched some of, some of, some of his best fights. I watched some of his best fights. I wasn't in town at the time of his passing, so, I mean, it was sad to hear a legend, definitely a legend. Legend, gone.
Shannon Sharpe
It is. It's so sad. But like I said, I mean, George, he loved his country because if you go back and look, he got the little American flags and he's waving them in the ring because he's proud to be in America, especially in 68. Everybody knows what was going on in 68. That was the height of the Civil rights movement. If I'm not mistaken, Dr. King had just gotten assassinated in April and I think the Summer Olympics had just happened, was happening a little later that summer. And so America was on edge. That's also.
Jeff Teague
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Or Carlos and Tommy Smith being kicked out for raising on the podium when they finished 13 in the 200 meters.
Jeff Teague
Hey, speaking of Mr. Smith, you know, when I was at Oregon State, the head coach, I mean, Oregon State when I was at Santa Monica Junior College.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Jeff Teague
My head coach was Robert Taylor. Rest in peace. Tommy Smith was a track coach at Santa Monica Junior College during my time there.
Shannon Sharpe
Yep, yep.
Jeff Teague
Yeah. That's crazy.
Shannon Sharpe
So George Foreman, gone at the age of 76. Gone, but never forgotten. Well, remember his contributions to what he did for the sport of boxing, what he did for his community And George Foreman. And our thoughts and prayers go out to him, to his family and all those impacted by the passing of George Foreman. Gone at the age of 76. Ocho March Madness has zero perfect brackets that remain. More than 34 million brackets was entered. None remained perfect. It took 43 games. But number three Kentucky's 8475 win over number six Illinois busted the final bracket. So Ocho, this is the first time that a man's perfect bracket had lasted until the second round since 2019. In 2024, the last perfect men's bracket was busted in the 31st game of the tournament. Are you surprised that there are no perfect brackets remaining?
Jeff Teague
Listen, I'm not surprised because if you look at the odds when it comes to having a perfect bracket and winning prize money or winning something for having the perfect bracket, I mean you would know the chance of, of winning or having the perfect bracket is less likely than actually winning the lotto, if I'm not mistaken statistically. And if it's like that, the chance of having a perfect bracket you would have to almost guess or create multiple brackets at, at, at that to actually have one that goes perfect and have a different scenarios in the, in the way games are going to play out. Because if you look at it, this uncle only comes down to one game. It comes down to one game. I was, I was excited and didn't even create a bracket. I just went on a limb and said, you know what? Hell, St. John's is going to win the whole thing. And St. John done they didn't win.
Shannon Sharpe
And lost in the second round.
Jeff Teague
They done lost in the second round. So if I had a bracket, which I didn't, that the goddamn one team I did pick, now they going home.
Shannon Sharpe
Yep. And because normally if your team, normally it's hard for you to win a bracket if the team that you pick to win the tournament gets knocked out early. Because think about all the. Because you had been win, they got knocked out the route of 32. So now they don't make the sweet 16, they don't make the elite eight, they don't make the final four. So one side of your bracket is already gone unless you're perfect on the other side. It's hard for you to overcome that. But this is why people love Marchimatic so much is the uncertainty, the unpredictability of college basketball. Because you're not dealing with professionals here, Ocho. You're dealing with kids. You're dealing with 18 to 20, 21 year old kids, maybe some a little older now because of the portal and what we had with COVID So sometimes The kids are 22, 23 years of age, but you're still dealing. You're not dealing with professionals, although some of them are getting paid. So I guess you would consider, theoretically considering professionals. But when you look at it like that, Ocho, I'm not surprised. I'm surprised they haven't been more upset. Cause normally we get more. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Normally I don't think we had, we don't. We didn't have any, like what, 13, 14 seeds that, that, that upset anybody this year. Normally we have a 13 or 14 seed. Team. Seed that would upset somebody. It's just hard now, Ocho, because the freshman, if you're really good, you leave. And the portal guys going back to going one school here didn't like the amount of playing time or they got into it with coaches or whatever the case may be. And so now the talent is spread. Guys are not just going to Carolina, Duke and Kentucky and Kansas guys are spreading out UConn even though they lost today to Florida. But that's what happened. That's what happens. And you're gonna see this, start to see this, I think a little bit more in football also, Ocho, the unpredictability of college football because the guys are starting to spread out. Because you know what, there are a lot of teams that got money now. They might not have as much as Ohio State or say Michigan or Alabama or Georgia, but hey, considering I was gonna get nothing that I can get. 200, 300,000, that's pretty good money for an 18 year old that's entering college.
Jeff Teague
You know, when I, when I think about it, you talk about the landscape and how the dynamic of, of the playing field is somewhat even because players are going everywhere. I think when it comes to college football, I think that's already happened. I think it's already happened. From how you think of it. You think of the days when the hurricanes, the Florida Gators and the Florida and the Seminoles used to absolutely dominate, dominate collegiate football and get all the great players, especially from down here in Florida, as opposed to. Now listen, the kids out of Florida and Texas and in la, they going everywhere.
Shannon Sharpe
They go to Ohio State, they're going to Alabama. Look at Amari Cooper, look at Jerry Judy. Look at Jeremiah Smith. He's at Ohio State. Yeah, look at Lamar Jackson, he's from Florida, he went to Louisville. So where guys, the guys from Florida would normally stay home, they're like, nah, we gone out of there.
Jeff Teague
Yeah, we Go out of there.
Shannon Sharpe
And so, you know, if Florida could actually keep their guys, that's why Florida, Florida State, Miami, the Canes. That's why they were so good. Cause they normally kept that homegrown talent. Now that homegrown talent, they leave.
Jeff Teague
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
And so Ridley in Cavalry.
Jeff Teague
Yeah, Cavalry.
Shannon Sharpe
He and his brother, they went out of state. And so you're right, Ocho, I think, because the guys are starting to leave and starting to spread out. You're gonna see. You're like the likelihood of. You see the domination that you once saw. No, I don't know if we're gonna see that again.
Jeff Teague
No, it's not gonna happen. Listen, unless. Unless there's a booster from somewhere that comes along with an abnormal amount of money and it's starting. And start, let's say you. And for example, Or Florida State, in order. In order for them to get back to their dominating ways, they have to come in. Come in. Come into these homes.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Jeff Teague
And offer some of these five star. Five star kids. Or steal players from other. Other schools.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah. That's what you're doing.
Jeff Teague
Yeah. Based on the amount of money they're will them.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Jeff Teague
In order to get the back. In order for the Hurricanes or the Seminoles to get back to how it was back in the 90s, you got to keep all homegrown kids right here within the state.
Shannon Sharpe
When you look at Ocho, and like you said. Okay, you got to get a kid that was like. You're like a Jordan Addison. He won the Politnikov Award at Pitt and now he ends up at usc.
Jeff Teague
Usc. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Because you got those big movie studio execs and all those guys that went to usc. That's a big film school.
Jeff Teague
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Which one of those is it Katzenberg or David Geffen that went to USC is one of them. Because SKG is Spielberg. Cats and Geffen, Spielberg, Katzenberg and Geffen. Skg. But I know one of them got a film school named after us.
Jeff Teague
Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Because they started Pixar, didn't they? Skg, Spielberg, David Geffen. But. But that's what you're gonna have to have. Oh, you're gonna have to have, like you said, those big guys to have that kind of money. You see a Larry Ellison, his wife went to Michigan. He intervened and got Bryce Underwood to flip from LSU to Michigan.
Jeff Teague
Yep.
Shannon Sharpe
DreamWorks, SKG, Spielberg, Katzenberg and Geffen.
Jeff Teague
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
Which one went to USC? Because one of them has a scrim school named after. I think it's David Geffen, but it might be Kessenburg. DreamWorks yeah, not Pixar.
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Foreign Flag sports 18 points in his second round win over Baylor, the Blue Devils finished the first half on a 120 run and when did the the run didn't slow down after the half. Asserting their DOMINANCE In a 8966 win, Cooper flag was once again the best player on the court, finishing with 18 points, nine rebounds, six assists of the box block block while Tyrese Proctor added 25 points and shot 7 of 8 from the three. Duke have been dominant and shown that they still can win it all. You're absolutely right, Ocho. They look like the most impressive team that I've seen in the tournament.
Jeff Teague
Hey, Unk. From top to bottom. From top to bottom in every phase on the court, in transition, on offense, on defense. Everything about Duke looks phenomenal. I'm not sure. I think they might be the anomaly. I might be using anomaly in the wrong context. In the instance where I'm talking about Duke might be in one of the teams where regardless of what day it is, they probably will beat everybody. I'm not. I'm not sure who can compete with them or contend with them. You would probably be better versed and well knowledge in the game of collegiate basketball to tell me is there a team that can actually challenge Duke? Based on what I've seen so far and based on what I've seen during the regular season.
Shannon Sharpe
Right. Hold on for a second. What'd you say? All of them went to usc. All of them have schools named after them. Yeah. So we're not surprised. So that's how USC is able to get. Got. Be able to flip, get Jordan Addison after he won the Blitnikov Award at Pitt and get him to come to usc. But Cooper Flag, he looked good. I mean, hey, he, I mean you watched him at high school at Mount Verde. Mount Verde, and he was sensational and he hadn't disappointed. He looks like he's gonna be the presumptuous Number one overall pick in this upcoming draft.
Jeff Teague
Oh, so he's not coming back.
Shannon Sharpe
That man ain't coming back. You want to go to the. You want to go to the NBA? How can you get hired in number one? I can see if he's gonna be like a. End of the lottery pick. He's gonna be number one. To do. Go back to do what?
Jeff Teague
Hey, it's so funny watching. Watching. Watching him play today and watching Cooper Flag. He just remind me so much of myself when I was in high school. Our game is very similar. Very similar. He can, you know, he can score. He can score from anywhere. Mid range, you know, put the ball on the floor, take people on, you know, in the post. Back. Nope, back to the basket. I mean, just. He can shoot the three a little bit. I mean, it's just very reminiscent of myself, you know, in high school, back in 1991. And it's a joy to watch.
Shannon Sharpe
It's a joy to watch somebody say, Cooper Flag, the best prospect says LeBron. Did you not just see Wemby come out last year? So he's a better prospect than Wemby? You feel comfortable saying that? No.
Jeff Teague
Hey, listen, one thing about. One thing about us in general people in general society, we are prisoners of the moment.
Shannon Sharpe
Absolutely.
Jeff Teague
Whatever is hot right now, that's what it is. And you forget about some of the great players that have come in the past. Hey, there go my dog, Tidy.
Shannon Sharpe
What's up, baby boy? You could. Yay. You could let. You couldn't let me get no more. No more moments, huh? You've been. He said, my auntie say, my auntie had me for 10 days, and I was ready for her to leave Ocho, so she'd be stingy. So she don't want to be sharing no chicken tenders. She'll share nothing. So I was ready for her to go. You good? In Playgate, Ocho players are complaining about overinflated basketballs. Here's a list of the players that have spoken out about the absurdity of the ball. Overinflation in the NCAA tournament game.
Jeff Teague
Oh, come on now.
Shannon Sharpe
You know, you had Sam Decker, Kobe Bray, Coleman Hawkins, Joseph Gerard iii, Dalton connect last year. Armando Bacot, Hunter Dixon. What do you think, Ocho? Is it something or nothing, man?
Jeff Teague
To me, honestly, it's nothing. I wouldn't be complaining about the ball. You know, when you were growing up, sometimes you had to worry, but you had no control over the conditions, huh? You playing outdoor, you play indoor. Sometimes there's no net, sometimes there's nets. Sometimes there's chain net, sometimes there's a double rim. Sometimes the ball is flat, sometimes the ball is full. Either way, you adapt. You make the adjustments necessary. Now you see what I mean? Now we got players that done got to college. Now they complain about the goddamn ball and forgetting how we grew up. Well, I'm not sure how they grew up. Everybody had a silver spoon. Based on this area, that's in college right now, I'm just. Listen, I ain't even had no shoes. I had to hooping PE class and a pair of chucks.
Shannon Sharpe
Everybody's hooping chucks.
Jeff Teague
I know, but I'm just saying I'm still hooping in chucks. And they talk about, oh, the ball is too much. And the ball. Man, if you don't go out there and play basketball and adjust and adapt to the goddamn ball. What are you talking about? Hey, Chad, I was the chat. Could have saw me, boy. Boy, back in. Back in 1990.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, you look like you played in the 60s the way you holded that basketball.
Jeff Teague
Oh, I have an unorthodox drip. You hear me? I got an unorthodox drip. I have an unorthodox game.
Shannon Sharpe
You do? So do you. Let me ask you a question. Do you think that. You think there's something to this? What? Should the ncaa. Should they look into it? Should they check the ball?
Jeff Teague
Hey, honestly. Honestly, as a player, I'm just saying. As a competitor, I wouldn't care about that. That's just me. Now, I can't speak on behalf of the players if they're saying maybe the ball has too much air in it. I mean, maybe it does. Should that affect your game in any way? No. When you shoot, the ball don't hit the rim. When you put the ball on the floor, you know what to do with it. No air, a lot of air. It shouldn't matter. It shouldn't affect anything.
Shannon Sharpe
That.
Jeff Teague
That's just me. I ain't complaining about no damn ball. I'm going out, then I'm gonna hoop. If you're a true Hooper. Now I'm talking about a true Hooper. If you're a true Hooper, you adapt regardless of circumstance. I ain't telling you what I heard. I'm telling you what I know. You think the players that go to rugged part, they complain about the ball being having too much air.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, I think sometimes these arenas are bigger than what they normally play in. I think you heard the NBA players saying, you got to get used because the depth perception. Because you used to play it and now they're playing in multi purposes arena. And so maybe that has something to do with. Maybe the ball could be over inflated. It's a little, you know. Go ahead.
Jeff Teague
I have a question. Don't they have shoot around in college football and college basketball too? Right?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Jeff Teague
There's plenty time to make the necessary adjustments to your game, to your skill set based on the balls that you were using. Me personally? I'm just saying they have a right to complain. It's just something I wouldn't complain about. Before we have a football game, what does the coach tell you to go do two hours before the game? Go out there and test the. What? Test your shoes so you know what shoes you need to wear. Because you might have to make the necessary adjustments based on the field you playing on.
Shannon Sharpe
Yep.
Jeff Teague
Come on now. We talking about the ball having too much air. Man, we ain't even had no air in our balls and peed back in the 80s and we, I, I made do just like that. Talking about the ball got too much air in it, man. Child, please, man. Come on. Now.
Shannon Sharpe
The Liberty Flames got blown out the first round of the 2025 NCAA tournament by the Oregon. Unfortunately, Liberty head coach Richie McKay. That might not have been the worst part of the night. McKay was interviewed on the sideline by one of the reporters on the broadcast. Oh, Joe, take a look at this photo. Yeah, bro. Does he not know that we know that? That's free.
Jeff Teague
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Let young boy live his life, man. That's that good Beijing, you hear me?
Shannon Sharpe
But Ocho. But if you notice you can't do. You got. First of all, he got. You gotta cut it down some because you can't have that much hair and didn't have that. Cause he got that thing looking like Carlos Boozer. Hey, Chad, y'all remember Carlos Boozer when that dad had that thing slicked down.
Jeff Teague
Had a nice little beard. Maybe he didn't realize it and maybe. Cause the light, you see the light shining on his forehead? Maybe it's the light from the camera that's that making it look worse than what it really is.
Shannon Sharpe
So if the light got blown out, can you imagine had it not got blown out. And it's a close game and he's starting to sweat. Ooh, you see some of those Baptist ministers, them Baptist ministers to be up there in that pool pit. And they got that in Beijing that started dripping down.
Jeff Teague
Yeah. Hey, don't do him like that. Don't do it like that.
Shannon Sharpe
Just tell. Hey, Chad, Chad, know what I'M talking about, man, he wrong for that old joke. You can't go out there like we now, you know what our counterparts. Matt didn't say nothing. But I guarantee every black person that watch that had something to say always.
Jeff Teague
You know, we ain't gonna let nothing. Hey, listen. We ain't gonna let nothing slide, especially nothing like that. Listen. On national television. Oh, no. He got that good Beijing.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Oh, and you might not. You see him in church. You ain't gonna say nothing to church, but soon as you get off church.
Jeff Teague
Ground, you said you can hear this here.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know what he thought that was. Oh, no, you can't like Ocho. You see that when you start getting them catalytics, you might as well go ahead and cut it down. It's just a matter of time.
Jeff Teague
Just let it go.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, he got them T tops. That's them T tops. You know, back in the day, you didn't have the convertible. You had the T top.
Jeff Teague
Right? It's like the Camaro. The Camaro. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
There you go. That's exactly right. Nah, man. Hey, and he just. Ocho, why he just put it. He should go ahead and just put it all over. You can't just. It's Two Tone. Yeah, he got his regular hair, and then this thing. He jet black.
Jeff Teague
Well, listen, maybe it. Maybe what if it didn't start off that way? Maybe. How about it? Maybe it got like that at the beginning of the game. It wasn't like that. Stress sweating. And that's how that was the outcome of it.
Shannon Sharpe
No, if it had been. If he. If that game had been closed and he started sweating, that thing had been all down in forehead. Hey, you remember how Rudy. Hey, y'all remember Rudy Giuliani? You remember how he started. How he started sweating? Because he had that wrist in there and he started sweating. That thing was all over his face. That's exactly what would have happened to him. Because that's that spray that ain't that beige England. I got that color that. You know, I ain't got that rinse here because he ain't gonna sweat. But he got that spray. That spray. You get hot and start sweating, that's gonna start coming down your face.
Jeff Teague
Wait, hold on now. You just said something. You said something. I ain't gonna let that go by. You say you got the Beijing, too?
Shannon Sharpe
I sure do.
Jeff Teague
For real?
Shannon Sharpe
Yep.
Jeff Teague
Okay, okay. I like that. I don't like that.
Shannon Sharpe
I like that. But first of all, there are a lot of people. Got it. You ain't about to be 50. First of all, I'm not Pakistani. I'm not Indian descent, so my hair ain't gonna be jet black. Ain't no damn 50.
Jeff Teague
Right?
Shannon Sharpe
And I ain't the only one. There are a lot of. There's a lot of mofos on television.
Jeff Teague
Right?
Shannon Sharpe
Y'all must be fake. Come on.
Jeff Teague
Now, hold on, hold on. This is what you need to do. Now. This might be one of the reasons why you ain't been able to find you somebody. Somebody actually won't. Now, if you're in your fift. You know, women love a little salt and pepper, so you might. You might.
Shannon Sharpe
You could stop letting it, but it damn sure ain't gonna be in my head. You better put it on your plate. Your food. Every chance I get, I'm going to. Joe. Hey, color the thing up, Joe. Color it up.
Jeff Teague
Hey, you. You don't want to. You don't want to just. You don't want to let. What? Think about how. Think about how you look, though, with the all gray.
Shannon Sharpe
No, I ain't gonna have the all gray.
Jeff Teague
No. Okay, okay. I would. Listen, I'm just throwing somebody that just. Just to give him a different look, Give. Give the women a different perspective of you. That's.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, the chat has seen me. I ain't trying to fool nobody. I mean, y'all seen me a couple of times when I can't get back home or get it colored. Hey, right. I got that great coming in. I mean, I don't know what it is.
Jeff Teague
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
He damn edgy.
Jeff Teague
Hey, Unc, I'm telling you, you should try it one time. Hey, somebody. Somebody use AI or something. And then change unk hair color to degree. I just want to see how it looks. You might like it, man. Women love a little salt and pepper. Now, you know that. That just let them know that you seasoned.
Shannon Sharpe
I am. Hey, look, I fit yourself, Mocho. Yeah, but I don't know. Now, you can't do that, though. I mean, like I said, hey, if he'd have had it all one color, if he'd have had it all that we'd have still. No, we probably wouldn't have noticed it as much.
Jeff Teague
Right, right.
Shannon Sharpe
But like, a lot of times they do that spray to have the edge edges crispy. So what they do, they use that spray to get them edges crispy. Right. So it's a little darker than the rest of the head of the hair, but that's too much. You got that thing looking like shoe polish. Hey, I don't know if you ever shined shoes on your. But my grandpa used to have me and my brother shine his shoes and we had to shine our own shoes. So.
Jeff Teague
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know if y'all noticed about that shoe polish, but hey.
Jeff Teague
Oh, man, that's funny. That's funny. That is funny.
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho. The three peat is complete. Arguably the greatest hurdler in history, Grant Holloway is the first athlete in world indoor championship history to win three consecutive 60 meter hurdle titles. Me personally, because Roger Kingdom from Georgia went to Vienna High School. He was a tremendous athlete. He won the Olympics. I think he won 84 and 88. Alan Johnson won the champ, won the Olympics. I think if Grant Holloway can win another Olympics, I think he'll go down as the greatest hurdler because he has three world championship outdoors. He has three indoor, he has Olympic gold medalist if he can snag one more and then. But I'm not so sure because he's in. This is a world championship season here. I think now he's dead set on that, that, that world record. He's 1. He's, he's run 12.81.
Jeff Teague
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Which is.001 off of Aries Merritt, Georgia boy who has the world record at 1280. So I think if, if he can get that world record and get another goal, I don't think it'll be. I think it'd be unquestioned. He's the greatest hurdler ever. Like I said, we have some, you know, to have that world record. Ellen Johnson had it. Colin Jackson had it. The Chinese guy, Lu Xuan, he had it. Darren Robles from Cuba, he had it. Aries Merritt took it from him. So it's going to be interesting. If Grant Holloway, because his explosives start, he gets out. You're not beating him out the gate. No, you're not beating him out the gate. And he's flawless.
Jeff Teague
So, yeah, it's his time, his timing. I mean, listen, I've been watching Grant the Flamingo, that's his nickname, Holloway, for, for, for a very long time. One of the greatest hurdlers of all time. And I'm sure he's probably going to achieve, being the greatest hurdler of all time and being able to get that 12, beat that 1280 at, at some point. So I'm, I'm happy for him. Grant, I know you're gonna see this. I salute you. You know, all your hard work. You know, we, we go at it back and forth on Twitter sometimes and in person. And I'm proud of you, man. I'm proud of you.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Coach Prime And Asante Samuels got into some beef this weekend. Ocho.
Jeff Teague
Hey, I love this boy.
Shannon Sharpe
First, Asante responded to the NFL Network's video of coach Frank hating on the T step. I can't stop laughing. How foolish he sounds. You can't control everything, sir.
Jeff Teague
Hey, listen, there, there. Can I, can I go? Can I go? I like the, you know how I'm a fan and an enthusiast when it comes to beautiful DB plate, the T step and being able to gather step and get out your break. There are different skill sets for different players. What makes them comfortable, depending on what you like to do. Deion Sanders, his ability to get in and out of breaks is phenomenal. Yes, it's phenomenal. His anticipatory skills are phenomenal.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Jeff Teague
Understanding the tendencies and what routes are coming based on down and distance, alignment, whatever it may be, is phenomenal. Another great one. And Asante Samuels, whether it be man, whether it be zone, bump and run, man to man, his anticipatory skills, again based on down and distance is good. He's the greatest T stepper of all time and he has the numbers and the stats to prove it. Now you have two of the greats, you have two of the all time greats that are going back and forth based on a specific skill set and technique. One work, one might not like it, but the other likes it. So the way Deion used to get out of breaks, it worked for him and it works for other players, right? Everybody can't do the goddamn T step like Asante Samuels, right? Everybody can't do it. Other players or other players that play defensive back, you have to gather. You have to. It's like there's some receivers that can get out a break in three steps, then there's something that got to get out in five. There's a difference. Hassani Samuels is one of the few that can T step. And, and I think one of the things that prime that might be bad about the TCEP if you T step and it's a double move. Well, you asked out, you asked out because you're not even, you're not even gathering. You just taking that one step and getting about it and you just driving, right? So if he's fake and make a double move, I mean, it's gonna take you forever to get up, get back out of there. Hey, that's a hard argument, man. From two from, from two of the best to ever play the game, but it's a good one. I like to hear your, your, your expertise on that.
Shannon Sharpe
I Think the thing is, time is looking at is no waste in motion. What do we talk when we run routes? What are we saying? No waste in motion. Yeah, we get into that break, we want our arms here or we want our arms here?
Jeff Teague
Yes, sir.
Shannon Sharpe
You want your body, you want your over your toe. You know what I'm saying? You want that, you want that weight distributed. All these big old quads so you get and come up out of there. None of that.
Jeff Teague
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
So in other words, time is saying by 10 stepping, that's wasting motion and what we're taught. But coach told me, say, son, he who hesitate is beat. So time is coming in there, coming.
Jeff Teague
I'm coming right now.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, sir.
Jeff Teague
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
He said when you open, that guy's already out of it. Because think about, you got to do this now. You got to square back up and go. Okay, that worked for Asante. I think the thing is that this is what I'm going to try to teach. Now. If I see I'm trying to teach this and the guy can't get it and he's better at T stepping, I'm going to let him T step.
Jeff Teague
But it's a funny thing. This is funny thing about Asante Samuels. Now this is when it comes down to technique, this is what sont was so goddamn good at. Asanta play inside leverage, right? He'll play off on purpose. And no matter how you weave him, the thing why he can teach them so well and still be in position to make the play is because that mother. Oh, I almost cursed. I'm sorry.
Shannon Sharpe
You got.
Jeff Teague
I'm so excited. Hey, Assant, you can come at him and if you weave inside and he gonna weave, but he gonna stay square the whole time, right? He not opening up. He not opening up. He gonna stay square, stay right in front of you the whole time. If you weave outside, he gonna weave right with you.
Shannon Sharpe
Right?
Jeff Teague
And so when it's time for to get out of his break, if you make any kind of move in front of him without out stepping on his toes, the ball is going the other way. Yeah, I've seen it.
Shannon Sharpe
He's the guy you gotta double move. I'm double moving him. I'm not. Because he gonna sit. Yeah, he gonna squat. He squats a lot. He has great, like you said, he has great anticipation. But you gotta double move him and a lot of things. Because he came up in the Coach Belichick system.
Jeff Teague
Yes, sir.
Shannon Sharpe
Is that what I'm. What he did is like no matter what you do, if I got inside leverage I got inside leverage. If I got outside leverage, I got outside leverage. So what you do don't impact me because I gotta be outside leverage. So you're doing all that stuff. I got outside leverage. I got outside leverage. You run the bank. I can't stop it. If I got inside leverage. I don't care if you give me a nod outside, I'm staying inside. That ain't got nothing to do with me. Yeah, it's just a matter of your technique. Is that what we try to do? We try to keep our technique as sound as we possibly can to eliminate wasted motion.
Jeff Teague
Motion. Right.
Shannon Sharpe
And so prime commented crime say sir foolish. Lol. God bless you, my brother. Tell them what this is really about, sir. You forever taking a shot at the sky. Mickey Andrews is responsible for teaching us what I teach. And it sure seemed like it worked for us. Peace. Be still. Yeah, hold on, Ocho. Let me. Let me just set up a bunch of tweets from Asante. Ain't no shot to on air brothers. Competitive as they come. I talk ish if it offended you. Coach Gene Chiswick taught us how to T step. I'm just trying to compare film. You can't run from the debate. I will still be here talking ish. Lol. God bless you. Here's a yearly reminder not let us excuse pick sixes. 168 games, 53. Deion played 188 games, 53 interceptions, 3 playoff interceptions, 2 Super Bowl. Asante. 51 interceptions, 7 playoff career interceptions, 2 Super Bowls, 50 plus interception, 94 pass. Please start saying they don't throw his way. Asante, I love you, bro. I love you. I think you're phenomenal. But you're not in times Realm. That's not even close. You're not. Nobody, nobody will ever say Asante Samuel and Deion Sanders in the same breath. You were fabulous. That's the greatest corner to ever put on. Put on pads and a helmet. The carbon. The lockdown. Where you think this term came from? Where you think that term? Ocho, do you realize where that term came from? Yeah, the COVID corner, the shutdown corner, the COVID one side of the field when he took the Listen. See, sometimes people like when I say time locked it down, there was no safety in the hole. So if you ran the post. Go back and look when he picked it on Rocket Ismail. He got it man to man. They threw a post with nobody in the hole. Time Red jumped over the top of him and picked it.
Jeff Teague
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Came back this way with Asante. You were fabulous. Yeah, you're not time, man. You can put all these stats up, bro. You're not time. I get it. Your technique. You say the T step work for you.
Jeff Teague
Good.
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho and I are trying to explain. What we try to do is we try to eliminate wasted motion. Okay. You felt that the T step would serve you better than to start the back. The back pedal. Cause everybody is up underneath them and come forward. You felt the T step gave you that a bigger burst. No problem. Clearly it worked. You were a Pro Bowler. You won super bowls. You got 50 plus interceptions.
Jeff Teague
Yes, sir.
Shannon Sharpe
You just not time. And it's okay.
Jeff Teague
Yeah, I think I love prime and what prime was able to do and the class and the bar that he set. But I don't want it to. To take away from how special Zon was.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, he was. He was. There's levels, Ocho.
Jeff Teague
Yeah, I know, I know it's level. I know it's levels. But I need people to also understand as great as prime was, I'm not saying Zont is on that level, but we need to give Zont's flowers so people understand how difficult it was to put up the numbers. He did.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Jeff Teague
And doing the T step and how good he was technically. That's all I'm saying.
Shannon Sharpe
You tell me the cornerback that's played that shifted the balance of power. He goes to San Francisco. They beat Dallas. He goes to Dallas and Dallas beat San Francisco. He shifted the balance of power.
Jeff Teague
Yeah, yeah, I understand what you mean. That's why I said the greatness that is Prime. Yeah, listen, he stands alone. We know that, you know, but one thing that we always do is we always go to the numbers. We would go to the stats.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't look at stats. I look at when it play. I watch tape.
Jeff Teague
Oh, okay, okay. Hey, but, hey, but listen now, if we talk about watching tape now, you. You look at 22. Hey, well, he does. He does some special stuff out there now.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, hey, now, his. His clueing, his ability to diagnose. Oh, yeah.
Jeff Teague
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Hey, to know what's coming before. Listen, is Zont's ability to know what's coming before it comes. And gambling at the right time and breaking on balls.
Shannon Sharpe
But see, sometimes numbers. Sometimes numbers fool you.
Jeff Teague
Yes, sir.
Shannon Sharpe
Darrell Revis. How many picks he got? How many people? You think taking Asante over Revis, you see how numbers are misleading? Ocho, do Revis. You think Revis got. I don't know. How many obsessions does Revis have? Does Revis have 30 interceptions? Reba got 29 picks. Now I want you to tell me, Ocho, you played against both of them. I said I like to say. I like to go to the man that played the man, not the man that know the man that talked to the man about a man. You played against both of them. Tell me what you think.
Jeff Teague
Listen, don't, don't do. Don't do me like that. Hey, don't do me like. As a defensive back myself. Listen, I'm trying to give praise. It's Sunday. I'm trying to give praise and worship where it's due. Now, see, it's a hard battle. It's a hard battle for Zont to win because we talking about prime and the comparison of the 2 and 99% of the world won't allow the comparison to happen. But what I'm gonna do is, is I'm gonna get on my. I'm gonna get on my soapbox for Zon as a receiver. Listen, as a receiver, yes, I understand how special and technically sound Young Bull was. Now I'm not trying to compare to Prime. Prime is on a different level. He's in a different stratosphere. But I don't want that to take away and I want people to. I don't want to take away how great Zon was and what he was able to do. That goddamn T step and his ability to always stay square is why he was so good at it. It as opposed to other DBs that open up right away so they wouldn't be able to T step anyway. There are very few DBs. Right. Listen to this real quick chat. Listen to me. Prime is a great one. Revis was a great one. Pat Certain. And some of the young bulls in today's game and some of the old, some of the. Some of the DBs in the old era, 95% of DBs, 95% of them play the position not to get beat.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Jeff Teague
And there's 5% that play to make a play.
Shannon Sharpe
Another thing, Ocho, prime is in that.
Jeff Teague
Yeah, Zon is in that. And you know, it's a few others I'm not going to reel off no names. But there's a difference.
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Shannon Sharpe
This. A lot of times people have great techniques. You watch guys in warming up.
Jeff Teague
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Bam, bam. Getting the game. When they go against somebody slopping on the mug.
Jeff Teague
Yeah. It changes. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, they hit that kid roll the 12. But that's feed out clean. They do that over. Hey, over the top, boy. You see that dagger? Yeah. As soon as somebody in front of them. Dude, what happened?
Jeff Teague
What happened? Yeah, it's funny. It's funny. You. And anytime. Anytime you put a body in front of somebody, most of the time your technique goes. It goes away. It goes away. The ability to operate in the same fashion you do on air with the body in front of you takes such extreme confidence. And not just your belief and your skill set, but your technique as well.
Shannon Sharpe
Look, like I said, that's not. I mean, look, just because you're not. It's like a receipt. It's like somebody saying, well, he ain't Jared, right? Well, who is that? Ain't no shot, right? It's like when I had Ken Griffey on my podcast and he was. He goes to his son play, and the guy was like, hey, he ain't King Griffith.
Jeff Teague
He ain't.
Shannon Sharpe
He ain't you. Griffin looked at him and said, well, who named five players that are, huh? Okay, Asante Samuel isn't prime. Okay, name five DBs that are. That's not a slight, right? Asante Samuel was a damn good. A great. He was a great corner. Because you're not prime. That doesn't deduce you, right? That's like saying this dick. Oh, well, he. He wasn't Joe Montana. He ain't Tom Brady. Okay, name five Tom Brady's @ quarterback. But what the hell are you saying? People get caught up with? He ain't this. Okay, name five that were. Name five. Barry Barnes. Name five. Jerry Wrights that played the receiver position. Name five lts. Name five Aaron Donalds. It's not a. It's not a guy gets onset. So what you say? I'm saying you were great. But there are levels to this. There are. It just is. You could be a great actor. Are there five better than Denzel? So, I mean, I just, you know, people get caught up. I don't get. I don't. Hey, he ain't no Gronk, okay? There ain't but one Gronk. How many times they can say they were Gronk, right? I mean, how many times they can say they were Travis Kelsey? People just get called them getting their face. I don't care. I'm good. All I can say is this. From 90 to 2003, that's when I played. Yeah, look at my numbers and look at the guys that played in that era. Look at their numbers and you tell. I can't do what came after me. I can't do what came before me. But look at my era when I played. Look at the tight ends and from that era and you see what my numbers look like comparable to theirs.
Jeff Teague
Hold on. And I got something even better than that. I got something better than that. And I'm glad you said that. I want you to look at the error before me. You hear me? Stay with. Hey, chat. Y'all hear me? Chat. Listen to me real close. Stay with me now. Stay with me. Look at the era before me. All the receivers that played. Look at the era during my time, okay? Now look at the era right now. And I ain't talk about no numbers. But it was only one Ocho, man. You hear me? It's only one of them Ocho People.
Shannon Sharpe
Try to say now, well, who did Tyon play against? I tell you what, you take any error, you tell me three receivers better than Randy Moss, Carroll Owens, and Jerry Rice, I'll give you any error, you tell me three receivers that you would take over those three. Cause that's what Deon went against. So I want you to tell me. So if you want this error, you want Chase, Jenna, Reek, if you want to go back a little farther, you want Fitzgerald, you want Marvin Harrison, you want. You give. I'll give you any era. I'll take Tio, I'll take Randy Moss, and I'll take Jerry Rice, and you tell me three receivers that's better than those three. Take off. Chat.
Jeff Teague
Hey. Hey, listen. Why the chat? Tried to do the impossible. I'm gonna grab me a bottle of water.
Shannon Sharpe
Look, this is not a. And look. And Ty, this is very. This is. This is rare for time for him to get into to a 10 for tat on Twitter. Occasionally he will. Occasionally, if he feel like. Like he said, he's called upon, he'll chime in. But normally. Normally, he really doesn't. It's like I said. I just think the thing is a difference of opinions. Asante did the T step up. It worked for him. Time didn't. He believed wasted motion wasted cause you to. Cause you to Give up plays that you probably wouldn't give up. Okay, two things can be true. The te can work for Asante where time didn't do the T step.
Jeff Teague
Okay, hey, matter of fact, we can. We can squash the conversation. And we can change. We can change. We could. We could change the topic. Whether you gather step, whether you t step, whether you bump, whether you play off, whether you play zone, whether you play, man. Asante, same. And Dion, you know who they couldn't cover?
Shannon Sharpe
Who? Me, man. Ty already told you he was going.
Jeff Teague
To press you, man. Listen, hey, look, we could be in a phone booth. We could be in the phone booth. We could be in a brown paper bag. Matter of fact, the paper bag could be wet. The paper bag could be wet. Prime couldn't see me. Huh?
Shannon Sharpe
Huh?
Jeff Teague
He couldn't see me with Eric Dickinson goggles on and don't play with me, Private.
Shannon Sharpe
Go choke me.
Jeff Teague
Hey, listen, I love boating boys, man.
Shannon Sharpe
And I love.
Jeff Teague
I love. I love the healthy. I love the healthy banter and competition back and forth. The competitive nature never goes anywhere, even when you're done playing. I like it. Yeah, it's a good, healthy discussion. But y'all can't stop me. Not then and not now.
Shannon Sharpe
But I, I. What I could never understood was how could Ty play with that big wide base?
Jeff Teague
Hey. Right. And if you beat him, he was gonna recover.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. He wasn't worried about you running, passing. He gonna recover. He wasn't ready for. I mean, maybe one guy, probably, if he missed the jam on Tyreek, but other than that, he gonna be. Hey, he gonna. Hey. Now, if he don't miss the jam, he gonna be right there in your heel.
Jeff Teague
You gotta think about it. If he misses jam on Tyreek, that mean the ball gotta be perfect.
Shannon Sharpe
He gotta be. Cause he gonna come now. He coming.
Jeff Teague
The ball gotta be perfect.
Shannon Sharpe
Be coming next time. Hey, as a matter of fact, next time we break time.
Jeff Teague
I like that. I like that topic.
Shannon Sharpe
I think they got killed, don't. They got all practice uncomfortable. You practice? Man, I wish I'd have known. I'd have. If I knew we gonna have this conversation, I'd hit him up.
Jeff Teague
Who that? Who that? Who?
Shannon Sharpe
Giant.
Jeff Teague
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. That was a good one.
Shannon Sharpe
That.
Jeff Teague
That was a great. It was a great combo.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, Joe. The Giants reportedly haven't given up on Aaron Rodgers despite signing Jameis Winston following Rogers visit to the Steelers on Friday. The G Men reportedly haven't stopped their pursuit of the 41 year old Jeremy Fowler reports the Giants have not given up on Aaron Rodgers even though they signed Jameis Winston. But reading the tea leaves here, it looks like the Steelers are in the pole position to potentially get it done. The Giant sign Winston to a two year, $8 million deal just hours after Rogers meeting with the Steelers. Ocho, do you see the Steelers as a proper landing spot or is it the Giants?
Jeff Teague
Oh, that's a good one. That's a good one. Me, I can't really put myself in Aaron Rodgers shoes but if you look at the landscape of the offense on where I would prefer to be. Malik Neighbors is nice. Yeah, he's nice. That is one. That's one good one to throw to. But you got two good ones over there with the Steelers. Correct me personally, I would be choosing over there with Arthur Smith, George Pickens and DK Metcalf left. Let me get some of that. Let me get some of that. That's if I'm Aaron Rodgers and understanding what you could do with two dynamic receivers like that. Just get the ball out your hand. That's all. Just get the ball out your hands. I'm not sure who they, I'm not sure who they have in running back to take some of the pressure off Aaron. So we ain't back there throwing the ball 100 times a game. But if I was a quarterback, I'm trying to go, I'm trying to go over there with that. With the crash. I call them the crash out brothers.
Shannon Sharpe
The Giants doesn't make a whole lot of sense because why would you sign Aaron Rodgers and James Winston and potentially that means if you do that oo that means you're not going to get a quarterback, right?
Jeff Teague
Oh yeah, yeah. And maybe they just talking. Maybe that's all smoke and mirrors. Maybe, maybe, maybe it's all smoke and mirrors because what the Giants are going to do, they're going to need a quarterback for the future.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Jeff Teague
If they signing James wins to a one year. That mean they sign two. Two year also to a one year. You got. You got to make up your mind. You got to make up your mind.
Shannon Sharpe
So where did that. So, so if, if, if Rogers goes to Pittsburgh or. So where. Where does that leave Russell Wilson? Cleveland?
Jeff Teague
That's a possibility. That, that, that is a. That's a. That is a possibility.
Shannon Sharpe
That's the only place I see because Geno Smith is at the. The Raiders now Sam Darnold is at Seattle. I'm trying to figure out where else could he go. Who else needs a quarterback. Fact they just put Jones in Indy to challenge to challenge Richardson. So I'M I'm looking at the landscape on. I'm trying to figure out where can he go?
Jeff Teague
Yeah, that, that, that. That's it. That's it. I really don't like what they did. I. Well, I kind of like it and I don't like it from a, from a competitive standpoint. I don't like what they doing to Richardson. But I also like it because now that you have somebody to push you and buying for your job, maybe that gets you to play at a higher level because now you have something to worry about. But also sometimes it's pros and it's cons of that too, because now what happens if you press? What happens if you try too hard? What have you try not to make mistakes instead of just playing freely. I think it'll do more harm than good when you. I think. I don't think they like, I don't think they like Anthony Richardson for the future.
Shannon Sharpe
Ojo. They knew he was a reclamation project. He was not a high completion percentage guy in college. He wasn't a high. He came in, his completion percentage was lower than Tebow's and we know Tebow did not have a great completion percentage. That's not nice. I'm talking about in the NFL. I'm just, Just the facts, right? Just the facts and the mere fact that they went out and got signed. Jones, what's his name? What's his first name? Daniel Jones.
Jeff Teague
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
What does that tell you? And they gave him 14 million. How they gonna pay the back up more than they pay to start her right? What are they telling you, Ocho? Yeah. They tired of your good job, huh? 14 million. You see what they gave. You see what they gave James Winston backup money. You see what they give all the backup money and chat. Stop talking about Cousins. Cousins was brought in to be a starter. He happened to be the backup because he lost his job.
Jeff Teague
Can you, can, can you answer me something?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Jeff Teague
Why they give Jamis Jameis Winston, what? One for eight or two for eight? Was it one for eight or two for eight?
Shannon Sharpe
Two for eight.
Jeff Teague
Okay, so why they gave. Why they gave him 14?
Shannon Sharpe
Why you think they surmised he's gonna be the starter?
Jeff Teague
No. Or does it have anything to do with age?
Shannon Sharpe
No, because here's the thing, Ocho, the guy's like, hold on if I'm coming in. Because they want you to know. They want Anthony Richardson to know he's not coming to be your backup. Did you see what we paid him? We paid him more than you. Now all this come late Leave early.
Jeff Teague
Right, right.
Shannon Sharpe
All this, the stuff that you've been doing, it ain't gonna go no more.
Jeff Teague
Well, I got a question.
Shannon Sharpe
Go ahead.
Jeff Teague
Hold on, hold on. I got a question for you. Who's the backup in Indy right now?
Shannon Sharpe
Daniel Jones.
Jeff Teague
Now, what did Daniel Jones show us the last two places he was at?
Shannon Sharpe
He didn't show us nothing. Minnesota. Cause he didn't get in.
Jeff Teague
But my point exactly. So with the Giants, he had flashes. He had flashes of brilliance. I'm not even gonna say him. Lie. I'm not gonna lie to you. But obviously the Giants were in a position where it was either Barkley at a position that they don't value, or was it. Or it was Daniel Jones. So they decided to pay, and they decided to pay Daniel Jones. But the small sample size and what we saw from him, I mean, he ain't the goddamn answer. He ain't acting. No disrespect to him. He's not the answer. But I think that it's a good thing. Again, like I said, there's pros and cons to it. You bring in some competition. Most players, if you're competitive. Oh, man, this sucker ain't finna beat me out my job.
Shannon Sharpe
No way.
Jeff Teague
You ain't gonna beat me at my job. I. I welcome you. I welcome this challenge. You talking about you don't believe in me. I got you.
Shannon Sharpe
Hold on. Man, I wish they would have thought about drafting, bringing somebody in Ocho. You and your third. You about to be in your third year and they bringing a quarterback in Ocho, man, please. That better be your te. You're 12 year, 14 now.
Jeff Teague
That's different. You know. You know the third year is you're making a break a year, right?
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Jeff Teague
The third year at any skill position is the year you have arrived, where it's going to let us know if you've arrived or not. Either you got it or you don't by that point. So I'm assuming right now the Indianapolis Colts feel. You know what we don't feel Anthony Richardson has it just yet. So we won't bring in someone else that maybe can take over. But what we saw from the person they bringing in to take over at 1 year for 14 million, ain't the MF answer either.
Shannon Sharpe
But here's the problem that you're running against Anthony Richardson, they're like, I gotta make a decision. You see what quarterback's making after the third year.
Jeff Teague
Okay, I see what you're saying.
Shannon Sharpe
I need to know, right? I can't. I can't See, I can't invest $300 million. And I'm still. You can't still be a project, right, with $300 million guaranteed? With that kind of money, you can't. Ocho. So they gotta make a decision. And if he's not, I gotta go back into the draft. Cause I'm not gonna pay him 300 million. I'm not. You see what. You see what? You. You just saw what Joe? What a Josh Allen got.
Jeff Teague
Well, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Come on. We can't do that now. We can't do that. Now. I understand what the quarterback market is, but Anthony Richardson, when it's his time to get paid, he's not going to be one of the quarterbacks that reset the market like a Josh Allen or Joe Burrow or Lamar.
Shannon Sharpe
Let's see what C.J. stroud get.
Jeff Teague
Oh, now, C.J. stroud is different.
Shannon Sharpe
That's my point. Now, you seeing my point where if he's the guy, I've got to pay this number.
Jeff Teague
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
That's all I'm saying.
Jeff Teague
Okay. Now, being the starter and having to pay for actual play is two totally different things.
Shannon Sharpe
But still, even. Even if that. You're gonna have to pay him in excess. Is he gonna be worth. Okay? Sam Darnold Got. Got three years. 105. Are you. You gonna pay him 35 million a year, Old Joe, and still be uncertain? See the quarterback that mark. See, Ojo, you can't pay that guy five, $6 million to be your starter. It's in the 30s.
Jeff Teague
Yeah, yeah. Hey. Ooh. Hey. He in a tough spot. I'm hoping this is his year. I'm hoping this is his year. You got to get it. Hey, and. And I know you're gonna see this. Take it in stride, baby. Take it as a challenge.
Shannon Sharpe
Got you.
Jeff Teague
What they looking for? The volume.
Shannon Sharpe
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Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 1 Summary
Podcast Information:
The episode kicks off with Shannon Sharpe welcoming listeners back after a period of travel. He shares his relief and joy about being home, expressing gratitude towards the audience for their continued support.
Notable Quote:
Shannon Sharpe [08:51]: "Hey, guys, thank you so much again for joining us. We can't do anything without you guys."
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to honoring the late George Foreman, a two-time world heavyweight champion and Olympic gold medalist. Shannon Sharpe reminisces about Foreman's legendary boxing career, including his memorable fights against Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier. The hosts reflect on Foreman's legacy both inside and outside the ring, highlighting his transformation into an ordained minister and his contributions to the community.
Notable Quotes:
Shannon Sharpe [09:58]: "George Foreman, gone at the ripe age of 76. Gone, but never forgotten."
Jeff Teague [15:27]: "He's one of the all-time greats. It's very sad to hear of his passing."
Shannon and Jeff delve into the excitement surrounding March Madness, discussing the unpredictability of the tournament and the absence of any perfect brackets this year. They analyze the challenges of predicting outcomes in a field dominated by young, dynamic athletes and the impact of player movements due to the NCAA portal and COVID-related changes.
Notable Quotes:
Shannon Sharpe [17:00]: "Ocho, March Madness has zero perfect brackets that remain. More than 34 million brackets were entered. None remained perfect."
Jeff Teague [18:02]: "The chance of having a perfect bracket is less likely than actually winning the lotto."
The discussion transitions to the evolving landscape of college sports, particularly focusing on football and basketball. The hosts talk about how top talents are dispersing across various universities instead of consolidating at powerhouse programs like Duke or Kentucky. This shift is attributed to the increased mobility of players seeking better opportunities and the influence of significant financial incentives from boosters and media moguls.
Notable Quotes:
Shannon Sharpe [21:02]: "The guys from Florida would normally stay home, they're like, nah, we gone out of there."
Jeff Teague [22:44]: "Unless there's a booster from somewhere that comes along with an abnormal amount of money, it's going to change the game."
A spirited debate unfolds between Shannon Sharpe and Jeff Teague regarding defensive techniques in football, specifically the effectiveness of the T-step versus the traditional bump-step approach. They reference legendary players like Asante Samuel and Deion Sanders to illustrate differing philosophies and techniques. The conversation highlights the importance of adaptability and individual player strengths in defensive strategies.
Notable Quotes:
Jeff Teague [31:19]: "To me, honestly, it's nothing. I wouldn't be complaining about the ball."
Shannon Sharpe [46:24]: "What do we talk about when we run routes? What are we saying? No waste in motion."
Jeff Teague [47:11]: "Asante Samuel is one of the few that can T step."
The hosts shift focus to NFL team dynamics, particularly the quarterback market. They discuss the New York Giants' pursuit of Aaron Rodgers despite signing Jameis Winston, analyzing the strategic implications for teams like the Steelers and Cleveland Browns. The conversation also touches on the challenges of drafting and signing quarterbacks who can meet high salary demands while ensuring team stability and performance.
Notable Quotes:
Shannon Sharpe [66:02]: "The Giants reportedly haven't given up on Aaron Rodgers despite signing Jameis Winston."
Jeff Teague [68:01]: "If I was Aaron Rodgers, understanding what you could do with two dynamic receivers like that, just get the ball out your hands."
A highlight of the episode is the celebration of Grant Holloway's achievement in completing a three-peat as the world indoor champion in the 60-meter hurdles. Shannon Sharpe praises Holloway’s potential to become the greatest hurdler of all time if he continues his stellar performance and possibly breaks the world record.
Notable Quotes:
Shannon Sharpe [40:18]: "Grant Holloway is the first athlete in world indoor championship history to win three consecutive 60-meter hurdle titles."
Jeff Teague [42:30]: "One of the greatest hurdlers of all time. I'm sure he's probably going to achieve being the greatest hurdler of all time."
As the episode winds down, Shannon emphasizes the importance of recognizing individual greatness in sports without diminishing other players' achievements. The hosts encourage listeners to appreciate the diverse talents and contributions of athletes across different eras and disciplines.
Notable Quotes:
Shannon Sharpe [53:05]: "I look at when it plays. I watch tape."
Jeff Teague [55:44]: "Prime is a great one. You know that, but I don't want that to take away how special Zont was."
Conclusion:
Nightcap Hour 1 of Club Shay Shay delivers a rich tapestry of discussions, blending tributes to sports legends, insightful analysis of current college and professional sports landscapes, and spirited debates on athletic techniques. Shannon Sharpe and his co-hosts provide an engaging narrative that honors the past while critically examining the present dynamics in sports.