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Boyd in Ontario, one no sweat bet per new customer issued as one bonus bet based on amount of initial losing bet. Bonus bets expire 168 hours after issuance. See dkng.com promos for deposit, wagering and eligibility restrictions terms and responsible gaming resources. Thank you, thank you, thank you for joining us. Ohio State will face Notre Dame in the Natty with a 2814 victory over the Longhorns. Y'all know me. I'm your favorite uncle Shannon Sharp. That guy. Bingo. Ring of Fame honoree. Liberty City's own, the Pro Bowler, the All Pro. That's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit that like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. We want to thank you Golf for joining us again. You've joined us so many faithful nights started in 23, continued in 24, and here we are in the new year 25, and you're right back with us again. So thank you for your loyal and continued support. Please go check out Shea by La Portier. Now we have it in stock. Let's celebrate. There's a lot to be thankful for. There's a lot to be grateful for what better way to celebrate than with a bottle of Shea by La Portier? If you cannot find it in a city or state near you, order it and we'll ship it directly to your door. And please, please drink responsibly. Go follow my media company on all of its platforms. That's Shay Shit Media and my clothing company, 84. With 84 being spelled out, we had our new release just dropped last month. We had shirts, sweats, koozies, beanies and mugs. Quantities are limited, so please make sure you get yours while supplies last. Tickets for the super bowl show in New Orleans. It's our first spring tour stop and the tickets are on sale now. The link is pinned at the top of the chat. February 6th in New Orleans. Be there. Big guests lined up. You don't want to miss this. Ocho and Unk will be at their absolute best. While the guests add a little flavor to it. You don't want to miss this one. Both Nike. Ocho, check this out. Both Nightcap and Club Shay Shay are both nominated for NAACP Image Awards. Nightcap has been nominated for outstanding podcast, Arts, sports and entertainment. Club Shae Shay has been nominated for outstanding Podcast, Society and Culture. And I've been nominated for entertainer of the Year. Please go vote for us. The link is pinned in our social bios and on all of our platforms. Again, thank you so much because this would not have been possible without you, the NAACP and all the awards. They see what we're doing, Ocho, and they're taking notice. So thank you fans for your loyal and continued support. It's greatly, greatly appreciated. As I mentioned earlier, Ocho, Ohio State takes down Texas 28 to 14. They're seeking their first national championship since 2015, when the Buckeyes will face Notre Dame. Monday, January 20th. Ohio State defensive Jack Sawyer forced a fumble sack strip sack force fumble, scooped it up and then guess what? He took off any that basically ice the ball game as they win, 28 to 14. Ocho. Yeah.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What happened? What happened?
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Shannon Sharpe
Look here. I don't look. Cause you and I, we don't really sit down and break down film to evaluate players properly. But I know my eyes tell me, talk to me. For the evaluators to have twin ewers evaluated so high. He doesn't do anything to elevate anybody. It's the players around him.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
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Shannon Sharpe
I mean, he's missing throws that game. Ohio. Ohio State. Yes. Texas is 14. 14. The guy runs like. Like a little square out, Ocho. He. He oversells it, bro. That's A routine throw. If you can't make that throw with no pressure, what throw can you make? Right?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It's all about.
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Shannon Sharpe
What you all do is look at him as average.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, I mean, listen, most, most collegiate quarterbacks are average. And the ones that. And the ones that aren't average, you know what they do when you watch them on film, it pops out, they jump out. They jump out to you on film. Listen, there's no disrespect to him, but most of the collegiate quarterbacks are average. The two that we just saw play last night are average as well. There's really nothing special about these individuals. So when their time comes, when it's time to get drafted, I'm hoping the situation is beneficial for them. Where there are, there are. The supporting cast is already in place where they don't have to do much and they don't have to elevate their play to make those around them better. And I mean that. I mean that in the most respectful way.
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Shannon Sharpe
Right. It's. It's hard, Ocho, because normally when you a quarterback and you go high, you go into a team that doesn't have a whole lot of talent around it. Now, everybody is not going to be C.J. stroud. Well, you have a Nico Collins, you have a Tank Dale. You make a trade for D for Dalton show. I mean, you get Dalton Schultz in free agency, you have Noah Brown and guys that played well for you. That's normally not the case. Every once in a while you get that, you'll get a situation where Andrew Luck and he had original Wayne, but for the most part, oo, you know, there's a reason why you lost all those damn games because you have a plethora of talent to try out there. Go ahead.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And then another example you can use as well, Jake Daniels, Jaden Daniels from lsu and going, going to the commanders who, who were bad but also had to support a very, very good supporting Caston, Terry McLaurin. That curse is tight end Naomi. Naomi Brown.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yep, yep.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm butchering his first name, but, you know, he's fortunate. So I'm hoping, whenever his time comes, you know, you got, you got to hope. You got to hope you go to a place where they have the help around you, where you can, you can, you can grow at the position. Because right now, based on what I saw tonight.
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Shannon Sharpe
You say average. I think he's slightly below. He made some. No, no, no, no. Real talk. And I'm not gonna beat him up too bad because he is a 19, 20 year old kid, he's not a professional. Although he's making 3, 4 million dollars in nil money, so he's paid. So theoretically, he should be a professional. But that notwithstanding. Oh, he's 20. He's about to be. He's almost 22. That notwithstanding. Ocho, I thought the situation. Sorry. That last. On that second down, he made a toss. Why you tossing it? Ohio State is loaded with speed. You're not getting to the edges on them. The one thing we know about Ohio State, name the person that's come out of Ohio State in the last decade that can't run.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Exactly.
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Shannon Sharpe
I'm talking about. It doesn't matter the position. I'm talking about O line, D linebackers, DBs, wide receivers, running. They can all of. They got one of the best speed programs in college football. Go ahead.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But this is what you got to do. In that case, you can't run downhill. The game is one in the trenches. Obviously, throughout the entirety of the game, it was a battle up front on both sides.
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Shannon Sharpe
Ball.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So you know you can't run downhill. So if you can't run downhill and you can't toss and the passing game wasn't what we're used to seeing them from both. Both teams. It wasn't what we're used to seeing. So what do you do? You got to try something.
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Shannon Sharpe
Look, Ocho, they had. They got passing end zone pass interference. Passing end zone pass interference. Damn.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You had two chances.
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Shannon Sharpe
You had two.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Two chances where you got. Where you got to re. Resetting downs and you got closer to the goal line. And that Ohio State defensive.
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Shannon Sharpe
I would have tried. Ocho. I know the first play, but I would have tried one more time to run it straight ahead, but not just right into the line. I mean, damn. But I'm not tossing that ball wide. They got too much speed, and they're really good tackles, I mean, if I'm not mistaken, I think I only counted, like, maybe one missed tackle, maybe two at the most from Ohio State. When they arrive, the guy's getting. He's going down on the ground. They do a great job. They're very sudden. They're very well coached, but they can run. Like I said, go back and look at their DBs that come out. They run four, three. Go look at their wide receivers. They're four, three. They're low four fours. Look at the D line. Vernon Goldston, at his size now, he couldn't play dead in a horror movie, but he was a hell of a football player at Ohio State. He could run 4, 5, at his side, Big Daddy Dan Wilkinson, number one overall, a damn near 300 pounds, ran 4, 7. They can run and especially defense. Oh, they sideline the sideline. So basically, you're going to have to tack them, have to hit a crease to try to get something. But tossing that ball wasn't the way to go. But it just goes to show you, because even on that fourth down, Ocho, they brought Arch Manning in. Can you imagine on fourth down, they bringing a quarterback in for a quarterback in the NFL? Every once in a while, you'll see it like, they'll come in with what, like a wildcat formation, right? Or you. You know, so who. Who does that a lot with the Saints?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The Saints?
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah, yeah. With Taysom heel. And sometimes they'll bring the tight end. He going in motion, and then he'll get. The Ravens do a lot of that with Mark Andrews. He'll like he going in motion, and he'll get up and sneak it, bro. Quinn Ewers. And I tweeted, I was like, I think all Texas UT alum will personally play for any mode of transportation to get Quinn Ewers out of Austin. Whatever you want. Uber, you want to. You won't live. You want train, you want a taxi, you want an airplane. They will gladly pay to get him up out of Austin. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They. They had an opportunity. Yes, they had. They had moment. There were moments where. Where yours had to step up and be special. And he. Those moments, they didn't happen. It didn't happen. He didn't make the throws. He didn't make the plays that he needed to make.
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Shannon Sharpe
No. Ohio State is already favored by almost 10 points. They're a 9 1/2 point favorite over Notre Dame. And there are spots that, you know, last week, Ohio State. The first two weeks, Ohio State looked unbeatable. Tonight, they look beatable. Now, there were some opportunities now, but here's the thing. Leonard might be worse than yours, so it's not like they're going to be a whole. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. He. He that bad? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You think he that bad?
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He might be worse than yours. And that's saying something. That's saying something. Because the thing that Ohio State can do, they can get after your quarterback with four, but they're not afraid to pressure your ass.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, they will.
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Shannon Sharpe
They will bring pressure, but they're okay with four. One of them. One of them. Hold on. What's his name? I can't J.T. just call him J.T. i can't. That's the more last name. I ain't gonna mess the man name up. Oh, they better be glad he missed a portion of the game with the ankle injury. Cause, boy, he was straight. Hell yeah. He was the one that made that on first and goal. Ojo. He was the one that made the stop in the backfield.
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Ryan Seacrest
I like it.
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Shannon Sharpe
Y'all like, watch him. He the best defensive player. Y'all don't even block it right. But, man, Ohio State, their favorite, and rightfully so. I just feel that if they played their best football, I didn't think anybody in the college. After watching them play, I said they played their best. If everybody plays their best, Ohio State is the best team in the college football player. If they play their best. Now that's a big if because you need to play your best on that particular day.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, now, so how do you feel about Notre Dame? What if Notre Dame goes out there and plays their best? Now, Notre Dame is no slouch. No, there are no slouch, especially defensively. I'm excited to see, I'm sure Notre Dame, they. I think they play a little bit more, man. As opposed to Texas, who played more zone with a two shell, where Jeremiah Smith wasn't able to have the type of game he used to have like he had against Tennessee or the type of game he had against Oregon. You know, Notre Dame is going to play a little bit more, man. Yeah, little bit more, man. You're going to have to show us. I don't think they're going to stray away from what they normally do. And this game was, was. Was heavily occupied by the running backs, whether it be the running game or whether it be in the pass game.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And the two of the. Two of the touchdowns, if I'm not.
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Shannon Sharpe
Mistaken, running back passes out of backfield to the running back.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
A screen out the backfield and in a die play. Right. Right up the A gap.
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Shannon Sharpe
No, you talking about for Ohio State or Texas?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ohio State.
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Shannon Sharpe
I'm sorry, but Ocho, that was. That was heartbreaking because you make it a 7.7ball game. And I don't know, in that situation with 20 seconds, why would you need to get exotic? Why would you bring pressure and drop the. And drop the. In that situation, you don't need to get exotic. Let's just play straight coverage. Right, but number four has got to.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Be when the back came out the backfield all by itself.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, but number four has got to make that tackle. You can't throw and miss. You got to get the guy down. Okay, let's have a 20 yard game. Ocho, you can't let him hit his head on the goal post in that situation. You just can't. You just can't. But Ohio State, look, Ohio look good in spurts. And then Texas, like, okay, Texas, you right, you right there. You right there.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
They needed to get a couple because when they stopped, when they stopped Ohio State, Texas needed to get the ball back and get some first downs. But they would go right back out there, basically go three and out and punt the ball right back to Ohio State. I'm like, well, damn.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I think when. I think it might have been seven minutes on the clock and Ohio State had that long, that long 11, 12 play drive.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And they were able to score at that point. I knew it was sticky. I knew it was sticky. I knew it was going to be sticky from that point on because now yours, you have to step up and almost be like Patrick Mahomes.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
In those moments in time when the pressure's on and the throws you're going to have to make to put your team and carry them on your back, it didn't happen. It didn't happen the way. Well, it did happen and the ball went the other way.
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Shannon Sharpe
But here's the thing, Ocho. Even though when they made it 21:14, Texas got the ball and went right down the field. Ocho again, see, Ocho, why would the tight end do that? He makes a great play. And then you point at the guy, you see Ocho. Now see, that's the stuff that I'm talking about. And then he like, oh, what happened, bro? You know, you can't do that. That's all O. That ain't something new. That's always been in the play. Yeah, yeah.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Like, bro, in court in a moment.
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Shannon Sharpe
Man, this was, like I said, Ohio State, look, they did a great job of neutralizing. I mean, if you think about it, oo, they did a great job of stopping the run. 23 carries for 82 yards. They didn't let them run wild on them like. Or like they ran wild on Oregon. They didn't.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They did a good job.
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Shannon Sharpe
They literally. Jeremiah Smith. They didn't really. They gave up the one big play right before the half that. But to give them credit, that could have been a backbreaker because that took a lot of life because you had gone the entire first half with no points. You get a touchdown with like 25, 30 seconds to go, and then you kick the ball off. They take it at the end and get on the 25 and then one play there in the end zone. So that could have been a brat breaker. But give start guys credit. They go in there, they regroup, they made it the ball game. 14. Hey, they tied up at 14. Ohio State scoring touchdown late in the ball game. Oh, 21, 14. Texas get the ball, yours makes a couple of big throws, then right back down the field. Yeah, give Ohio State credit. They said, okay, you down here now what you gonna do? You ain't done anything until you get the ball into the end zone. Yeah, until you get all that, that's fine. And I know, I saw UT fans, they going crazy. The burnt orange and white, they're going crazy. Cause that's the Cotton Bowl. You're in Dallas, Texas. There are a lot of fans in Texas that went to ut. Ohio State say, bro, until you get this ball in the end zone, I don't know what y'all jumping up and down for, right? Watch this. First down, second down, second and go. Oh, but you lose three yards. Four.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, I'm like, bro, hey, penalties kill both of these teams. Penalties. A lot of penalties in some of the first half, some in the second half. And I think the momentum, especially for Ohio State. And it was in, in the first half. Yeah, where I think they could have gone up another. But they got a, they got a penalty back in my 15 yards. And every time they got that 15 yard penalty, there was really again, like we, like we fussed about last night. We talked about being able to get 20 yards in one shot in one play. Look how difficult it was for them to rec cover on both, both sides of the ball. Texas 2 and Ohio State. But once they got them 15 yard penalties, it was impossible. The playbook shrinks significantly because there's only so many plays you can call to actually get a first down. You try to get it in pumps, but it's damn near impossible based on all the defensive plays you can call to prevent it from happening.
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Shannon Sharpe
But the thing is, Ocho is like a lot of times, like when you get it, like, okay, you get a big play and you. And it's first down and they call it back. So now it's all of a sudden it's going to be first and 10 or first and 25, you just try to get 10 of it back. You don't try to get it all back. You just try to get. So now let's make it second and 15. Okay, let's get seven, eight yards. Now we got something that we could do with. Deal with it's just hard to consistently pick up third and long. You start getting third and 8, 9, 10, 15, you might get one or two a game, but the likelihood of you making a living picking up that kind of down, that kind of distance is not very good. But like I said, Will Howard, 24, 33, 289, one touchdown, one interception. Bro. Bro, you got. Does not anybody not see that Buzz linebacker. That's what I just want to know, dudes.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Anybody on the decor?
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes, I think.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But you have to think about it. What I think he thought is with that play action fake, once he go down there and you draw them linebackers up, I don't think he expected a linebacker to be the drop that goddamn deep.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Like that curl, Rob, I'm talking about that. That was a deep curl. That was about 18 to 20 yards.
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Shannon Sharpe
The reason why the guy dropped, because he don't have any run responsibility. So if I ain't got no run responsibility, why I give a damn if he play fake it? That ain't my job. Officer line in the mic. Backer got that. I got buzz, right? And guess what I got. I got. I got flat to hook. So guess what I'm gonna do on your. Hey, ain't nothing to threaten me in the flat. Let me get my ass in this hook rock.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But you know one thing about it, and I think it comes obviously with chemistry and timing, and then actually the quarterback and the receiver being on the same page, the NFL, something like that, that same play, if you want to play inside the hook, I'm going to come right on around that. And the quarterback won't be able to see that. But he going to see that backer dropping into the hook and wait for the receiver come right off his ear hole and throw the ball right off his ear hole, right? Just come back. Just come on back down to the ball.
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Shannon Sharpe
But you know, in college, they don't really get that intricate like that. Basically, he's not reading it because he coming straight back to the ball. So I'm thinking the quarterback, seeing the guy up underneath me, he ain't gonna even chip before me the ball. Because you need something to like threaten him to the flat to make him get wide. All I need is a crease, make him get wide. But now nobody gets wide. He's gonna drop straight back to that hook to curl. Whatever y'all, whatever they call it, he's there. I'm like, bro, same thing happened last night, Notre Dame when he got the pick. I'm like, bro, did Y'all not see that? Man, buzz that. What do y'all look at? Do y'all not see that? I mean, I see it. And plus oo he stared him down, too.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, he stared him down. You know what's funny? If I think even if he didn't stare him down, if he did, which is pulled you as a quarterback, you get that ball after that Plex and fake and you look down the barrel of the safety in the middle of the field, the backer would still be in their goddamn lane.
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Shannon Sharpe
He got, he got. He hooked the curl. He got that Ocho. That's his only responsibility. Son, guess what, man? If he run an over route, that's not your responsibility. If they run the ball, that's not your responsibility. What is your responsibility? You let him catch that hook to curl and the coach gonna cut your ass out. Because you got one responsibility. You got flat to hook, right? That's your job.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, it was. It was a good game. It was a good game.
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Shannon Sharpe
Ocho, check this out. Ex Georgia quarterback Carson Beck commenced to Miami LESS than 24 hours after entering the transport portal. Beck committed to play for the Hurricanes. Beck will reportedly make $4 million from the Hurricanes in the transfer portal, landing him among the highest paid players in college football. Beck's girlfriend, Hannah Cavender, is a star Miami woman's basketball player alongside her twin sister Haley. Hannah makes nearly 1 million in nil money. They must have not saw Carson Beckham.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I didn't want to say nothing. I didn't want to say anything, but Carson Beck looks the way he does because of his supporting cast. Look what he had. Look what he had surrounding him at Georgia.
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Shannon Sharpe
And they ain't got that at, um.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I mean, I mean, listen, now, we have some dogs.
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Shannon Sharpe
Y'all got some good players, but y'all ain't got no 5 star like Kirby got.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, we ain't got nothing like that. But we do have some guys that can make some plays. I will tell you that. It's not the, it's not the Hurricanes of the old. What. No matter what position you go to, we talk about first rounders, you know, five stars.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I mean, we don't have that, but we got some animals. It's still, still Miami. It's still the Hurricanes. So again, now Beck is going to have to come in. He's going to have to improve. He's going to have to improve and do some of the things that Cam Ward was able to do. Cam Ward was able to elevate the players around.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Because special, he was that good. So, I mean, people are going to understand. Carson. Carson Beck, you're going to understand. You're going to have to play better. You're going to have to. You're going to have. You're going to have to play better.
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Shannon Sharpe
I'm just trying to figure out what his turnover machine. Did they not see him last year? I mean, really, I'm Being truthful, Oto. I'm being very, very truthful. Did they not see his body of work last season? Yeah, if you. Excuse me. If you saw his body of work. Look, I don't begrudge anybody getting that money, but if they giving money out like that, hey, I'm about to have me another kid. Hey, hey, you could be some butt sauce to get a million. If you halfway good, you get two and a half. If you damn good, you gonna get four to six.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah, especially. Especially you play the quarterback position.
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Shannon Sharpe
I'm like, damn. No, I ain't hating Miami, the Hurricanes or the Hurricane. I'm just saying maybe they didn't want. And he's coming off an injury. He hurt his elbow. I don't know if it's significant. He's gonna have to have surgery. Maybe risk will heal it, but don't you. And again, he was another one. Oh, he come out. He gonna be a top five pick. Quinn Ewers, he's ready. Better than Shador. He's ready to head.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm like, slow down, slow down, slow down.
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Shannon Sharpe
I'm just telling you where the evaluators had it. I ain't have him there.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, listen, whoever the evaluators are, they need to get.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh, Joe. And he. He had surgery on his elbow.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Okay, listen. If they still gave him the money, the extent of the injury and the timetable it takes for him to heal and recover and get better, I. I'm assuming he will. He will be fine. Wait, is it his throwing hand?
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes. Yes, it is. Miami need to fix their defense, though. Yeah, that's what they need to fix.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
It's hard. I mean, and. Because one turnover probably gonna doom you. And you saw that time and time again. Cam Ward played really, really well, but if he turned the ball over one time, it probably was gonna end up costing them the game.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Cause the other team is gonna score. They gonna go down and score.
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Shannon Sharpe
And that's the thing. So that's what they're gonna. Miami. That's what the Canes need to get. They need to get some defensive help. They need to get some guys in the portal to come play defense. For now, I don't know if all the guys that are coming back. I know Cam Ward is leaving. I don't know how many of those receivers are coming back. I mean, they had a tight end that was eight year eight. Yeah. He was like 30. Yeah, he out there play. He out there playing with kids.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, he only.
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Shannon Sharpe
He could go, but he the only one that could Go pop here. And you know, when you were in college, Ocho, you had that one old guy that see you that could go buy beer. And he was the guy that was.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
In charge for charging, getting the beer. Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
But, man, look back. Four million ojo. And that was quick because he just. He just put his name in the portal. What, yesterday?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
And here he is. He's already got a team lined up.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But you. You already know what that mean.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You know, things going on behind the scene. Things were going on behind the scenes. Conversations were being had already prior to.
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Shannon Sharpe
Right.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Which is why everything was able to unfold that damn fast.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, but. And plus, the thing is, Ocho, he saw the writing on the wall. He saw the writing on the wall. Cause he didn't play as well this year as he played last year. And this ain't no. In college football, it used to be. Okay, yeah, you came, you committed to us, and you know, you a sophomore, so we gonna give you a junior year. If you're a junior, we're gonna give you a senior. That. That ain't it no more. And the way they got it set up now with this nil, bro, you on. You on scholarship, semester to semester. Because it's all it normally was, like year to year, Ocho, you signed it basically with a contract for one year at a time. Now that thing, semester, semester, it's too much money involved. It's too competitive. And guys like, hey, coaches are kind of like handcuffed, Ocho. Cause you bench a guy, oh, he jumped in the portal on you, he gone, and he a five star. He gonna find a place to land. Ocho, he a four or five star.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And you gotta understand, most of the time, sometimes you have five stars that don't play like five stars. That's why they sitting on the bench.
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Shannon Sharpe
But here's the thing, though, Ocho. Here's the difference. The other team, when they jump in that portal, they realized he was a five star and they wanted him. So now I'm gonna pay 2000-003004-00000, whatever it takes to get and put him in my program. Because I wanted him before he went to where he went to.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right, exactly.
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Shannon Sharpe
That's the same thing with Beck. I don't know what Beck was, but in order to get that kind of money, somebody had to have wanted him.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, obviously.
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Shannon Sharpe
And he did play quarterback at the top at, you know, at ujj. That's one of the premier programs in all of college football. So he was the starting quarterback OO for two Years.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right. And which command the kind of. Kind of money he's getting? It commands in Morris note the salary or the nil money that he's going to get because of where he played and the success he did have despite his woes last year.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, why don't you $4 million for him. Hey, I don't begrudge nobody getting the money. Hey, if y'all gonna pay it, I'm taking it too. Because I'm sure somebody probably say, when I was making the money, I was made like, damn, he making Shannon making that kind of money. What I'm gonna do say, ah, man, you know I ain't worth that. But I ain't worth that. Hey, take some of this money back. I'm taking it. I'll let y'all figure it out. Y'all made a mistake later. Ocho ESPN repo 20 scouts and executives asked them who is the top quarterback in the 2025 draft? 2025 NFL Draft. In the latest poll, Cam Ward and Shador Sanders got 11 votes. Cam Ward got nine votes, Carson Beck. Well, now y'all discredited because Carson Beck got five and Jaylen Miro got four and Quinn Ewers got a vote. So now, since y'all done did that, I don't even know what to take. I don't even know what to make of it.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Exactly. And listen, I have a question. How come when it comes to the voters, the people that do the. Not only the all pro voting in the NFL, but just the voters that do the voting in college, how come we can't see exactly who they are?
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Shannon Sharpe
No, they're scouts. They're former executive and scouts. You're not really. You're not supposed to be participating in stuff like this. So that's why you got to keep it anonymity.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
See, man, I don't like that because sometimes even their, even their eye is wrong.
- [38:10]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Even there wrong. Where they judge is wrong. I think people in positions like that, when it comes to scouts, GMs, they should be former players at some time or maybe former players should help consult based on certain positions that play the game at a high level. They should help in that area. Most of the time you look at GMs and scouts, it's people that never played the game. They just been around the game, you know, and they know what it. What it should look like, but didn't really play position or didn't really play the sport. They doing everything based off analytics or. I've been around, I've studied. No, no, you know, you have players that have played the game that can tell you now, despite what it may look like, you also have to take into account, look at the competition you're playing against. That's why, you know, whoever it may be, exhibit A may look that goddamn good, but look what happens. He disappears against better competition.
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Shannon Sharpe
Right?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So which he could happen, even plays in the NFL. I. I don't know. There's so many different variables that go into it. I would love to get into scouting. No, like that. When it comes to looking at receivers.
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Shannon Sharpe
You got to put in to do that, Ocho.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, I already know. I already know.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, exactly.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, I. I know what you mean. I like the part about. I like the part about watching film. Studying film.
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Shannon Sharpe
You like the thought. You like the thought of watching film and doing all that? You don't like actually doing that?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Unless I'm. Unless I'm gonna play.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. You know, the thought of just looking at tape.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You know what? Despite. Despite what you may think, you know, as far as perception and. And me, when it come to, you know, just doing stuff like that, now, I will do it.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh, you do it for you. Because you need to know what the defense is going to do. You ain't trying to look at. You ain't trying to look at. No, just.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I. I would. I would enjoy it, though. I. I would think I would enjoy it, you know.
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Shannon Sharpe
Chad, what y'all think? Y'all think. Oh, y'all think. Oo want to watch Tate?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, man, you won't believe this, man, tonight, man.
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Shannon Sharpe
What happened?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, man, man. Well, listen, I almost. I almost didn't make the show. Why am I going to jail, boy? What happened, man? Well, listen, so my daughters, my two. My two oldest, you know, they. They in town right now, man. Jakira and Shade. Thank you, baby. I know y'all might be watching. I love you all. I appreciate it. They took me to. They put me to no food for dinner, right? They took you where no food.
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Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I've never been to restaurants, you know, obviously, those type of restaurants, so it was nice. You know, they sell sushi and stuff like that, you know, I don't. Whatever. I. I enjoyed it, though. The ambiance was cool. The service was phenomenal. It was. It was out there on Collins, on. I'm talking about Noble. I'm talking about no food. Noble.
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Shannon Sharpe
I was gonna say. That's what I'm looking at. Like, that's what I'm looking at. I ain't Never heard of that, but okay. He telling the story. This is his story.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Let him tell it, you know, so you know, the food I ordered. I ordered shrimp temporals. I don't like avocado, so I had them remove the avocado. I ordered steak. I ordered a steak as well. Skirt. Skirt steak. It was chopped up in half. You know, it was cool. And my daughters ordered it, but they what they ordered, and I tasted some of their food. Would it be my first time you know, experiencing this restaurant? It was cool. It was cool. It's not something that I would go to on my own, but it was their suggestion. They want to do something nice for me. So, boom. I enjoy that. Boom. So I tell him I'm watching the game on my phone, and the waiter keep coming, trying to make sure I'm okay. I'm like, man, I'm okay, man. I'm just watching the game. So I know what to talk about tonight, right? You know, on Nightcap. And he know, you know, man, I'm a fan of the show. I really enjoy it. I like it. You and uncle. You know, the chemistry. Y'all are really funny, man. And so I say, cool. So I pay the bill early because I know I got to leave. So by the time the third quarter hit, I jump in the car. So I jump in the car just to make sure I'm able to get here on time. I'm speed. I'm doing about 80. I didn't realize I was doing 80. I was doing 80 to 65. So I'm like, oh, snap. Boom. The lights come on behind me. Oh, Lord. Police done pulled me over, man. I put my seatbelt on. I ain't had my seatbelt on. So I like. I hurried my skirt and, you know, snuck my seatbelt on real quick, right? So bomb dude come to the door. He tap on the window. I rolled the window down. I said, how you doing, sir? He ain't even say nothing back. I was trying to be nice. He said, papers. I said, scissors. I said, well, hell, I was running. So he went back to the car.
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Shannon Sharpe
Shoot.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
When he went back to the car, shoot. I drove off.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, okay. Yeah.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So I drove off. Shoot. I took off. He done came back behind me. So I'm thinking maybe he want a rematch because he lost. Paper, rock, selfies. Yeah, you know? Cause he talking about paper shit. I said scissors, okay? So I thought he left because he thought he lost, right? Man, I took him all. I brought him all the way to the house, man. He came. He followed me all the Way to the house. Wrote me a ticket, man. He said, you luck. Lucky. I like your humor. You're lucky. You're lucky. I like your humor and I'm a fan of yours. And I said, man, you watch the show, too? He said, yeah. And I was trying to figure out. He said, I left to go back to the car so I can get an autograph of the picture. I wasn't leaving. I need. He didn't leave when I said, scissors. And I said, hey, I won. He didn't leave. He left to go get a paper, to go get a pen so I could sign something. But I took off and left. I thought it was done.
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Shannon Sharpe
So he wrote your ticket.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He just wrote me. He wrote me a ticket, man. Damn. But it's cool. It's cool. I. Listen, I. I was trying to be funny.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I was trying to be about papers. Say registration. Registration and driver's license, please. He said, papers. Okay.
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Shannon Sharpe
I think you forgot what color you are.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Who?
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Shannon Sharpe
You.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, I'm in Miami. I'm good here.
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Shannon Sharpe
No, you're not.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm good.
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Shannon Sharpe
Ask Tyreek Hill. Was you good.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But that's different. Re ain't from here. I'm from home.
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Shannon Sharpe
Tyreek Hill, you ain't home. Yeah, if you was from home, you wouldn't have got no ticket.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, what? But he had to. He had to follow me for 30, 30 more minutes. So that's why I got.
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Shannon Sharpe
He supposed that again your escort home. Hey, Ultra, check this out. A veteran scout said this is one of the weakest classes. There's not a lot of depth to it. And there's not a lot of high, high talent players either. Oh, do you agree with this?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Absolutely not. Okay, I could, I can. I can give you five. The defense in the defense in from Penn State. Abdul Carter, Travis Hunter. High level talent, Cam Ward. High level talent. The FSD tackle. I don't know. I don't know his name off the top of my head. On top of my head. High level talent. Cam Ward. High level talent. Based on the situations that the quarterback go to, they're going to be. They're going to be fine. Now you think about. You think about. The Giants are picking early. Who else is. Who else picking early?
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Shannon Sharpe
Cleveland Raiders, Jacksonville, New England.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, see? Jacksonville not taking no quarterback.
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Shannon Sharpe
No, but he said he's. He's not just talking about the quarterback. He's saying the level of talent and the depth of talent in the class. You name five players. They're 32 drafts.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It's not now. Yeah, you, you.
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Shannon Sharpe
You Right. You agree with it? I agree with him. There's not a whole lot of high level talent and there's not a whole lot of depth. There is, there's talent in every draft.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
But some drafts, there's a plethora. You're going to get great value from a guy in the second or the third round, third round.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But this is the thing, this is the funny thing about it, especially again with the eye test and valuing talent. You never know who might be a gym, Right. That might be seen at the high level talent right now, but all of a sudden they get to the NFL, they get into the right situation, they're used based on their strengths. They're able to hide their weaknesses and use them to the best of their abilities based on where they go. All of a sudden, boom, you got a gym that comes out of nowhere that you got in the third or maybe the fourth round.
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Shannon Sharpe
Well, you go, look at, you look at 2011, you get Cam at one, you get Vaughn at two, and you get J.J. watt, you get Cam Jordan, you get Hayward, you get. And down the line, you go get a Richard Sherman, you get a Julio Jones, you get A.J. green, you see what I'm going, you get a Tyrone Smith. Now you, now you see where I'm going with it. Say loaded.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Top to bottom, high level talent. This, this draft likes that. Yeah, there, there are some gyms there, there's some guys in here that, you know, we think are. They think. We think a lot of. And you're right. There's always going to be a hidden gem that doesn't get value. Don't get the great, the high grade that comes in and plays really, really well. You're like, well, damn, if we were redrafting, this guy would go higher. This guy probably be a first round pick, so forth and so on. But when I look at this draft, I don't see like, whoo, boy, this thing. Hey, if I miss my guy here, I'm going to get a great guy, right?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, I think this draft, as far as owner scouts and GMs, they're going to have to be very sure, very sure on who they want and who they're picking. And they have to go through film with the fine tooth comb, understanding the needs that they do need and go from there. But again, I think there are some gyms, there are some names or players that might have certain issues, no character stuff, stuff off the field that are very good, that aren't getting noticed.
- [47:51]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They get a chance and they get opportunity they can surprise a lot of people.
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Shannon Sharpe
Ocho, we got some bad news. Former LSU wide receiver Kyron Lacey is wanted for negligent homicide and a felony hit and run in a connection with a Dec. 17 crash that killed one person and injured two others in Louisiana. According to state police, Lacey was illegally, allegedly illegal, illegally passing other vehicles at a high rate of speed by crossing the center lane and entered an oncoming lane in a no passing zone. A truck swerved to avoid colliding with Lacy. The vehicle and vehicles behind it collided head on with another vehicle going in the opposite direction. Following the crash, Lacy drove around the crash scene, fled south on Elon, Louisiana, Highway 20 without stopping to render aid, call emergency services, or report the embalming in the crash, according to police documents.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, uncle man. Ocho. Ocho.
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Shannon Sharpe
I know he know what happened to Ruggs. I know he know he had to see that, Ocho. But I get it, Ocho, when you young, you never think anything like this. So I can't beat him up too bad because I've driven at a high rate of speed. Now, I wasn't, you know, trying to pass on, but I'm just going, you know, it's just, you know. You know how it is. Like, I'm on 95, and I'm coming from Daytona. I'm going back to Savannah. So it's just two lanes, and there's a median, there's a fence. So two lanes, me and the traffic going this way. But I. You know what I'm saying? There is no possibility of another car coming this way. I was wrong. Now, I don't want people to think that I'm trying to condone because I was traveling at 108 miles an hour. Dead wrong. Dead wrong. Got two tickets. Guy said I clocked you at 108, and the other guy clocked you at 92. So we got to write you two tickets. Does anybody here. Hey, they put me in the car. Oh, Joe. They like. Anybody here got driver's license that could drive the car?
- [49:58]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right?
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Shannon Sharpe
Hey, let my. One of the dudes that went to college with me, he drove the car. They took me to the police station. It's like a bond, like fifteen hundred dollars.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right, right.
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Shannon Sharpe
I broke that thing. Oh, Joe. Yes. I would count money. They thought I had a money count in my pocket.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
I've been peeling off the blood. He like, if you don't mind, what do you do, you know? Hey, I can't tell y'all I keep it here longer. Nobody bring the dog to Sift the car. I can't tell you what I do, but just know I'm gonna get up outta here. But guys, you guys just be careful. And I, Ocho, when you young, you believe you are invincible. It's invincible if you're an athlete. Now like I said, we've been athletes our whole life, Ocho, so you know how we think. But it ain't nothing gonna happen to me.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hold on, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta add the other element to it. Now not only do you think you're invincible when you, when you're an athlete, when you're a good athlete at that, you're in college, you're on top of the world, but this is the other element that makes it even that much more dangerous. Money.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh yeah.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Now money, huh? Now they got money. So once you add the money to it now you, you really feel you're invincible. And you're not thinking right, you're not in your right state of mind. So some of the things that you do when you are young, driving fast, drinking, clubbing, having a good time, feeling that you are invincible in certain situations when normally in your right state of mind, when you're older and you're a little bit more experienced, you're not thinking about that stuff, you know. But now you get to sit back.
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Shannon Sharpe
You know, and that's what he gets you, Ocho.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Career might be over, huh?
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Shannon Sharpe
No, it all depends. Maybe it's a first time offense. He's young. I was just reading this report, I don't know if we're going to talk about it. That Henry Ruggs is eligible for parole in August of 26. It'll be 26 years of age. Yeah, in a situation like this, Ocho, where they get you is that you fail to render aid, you fail to call. Because the definition of a crime is an act or a failure to act. Where there's a responsibility to act. You in this situation, you got a responsibility now. And he neglected his responsibility, right? Hey, call. Hey man, even if you. Ocho, if you just called now, what you should have done is stop, try to call 911. Hey, what's your emergency? There's a serious car accident that happened, blah, blah, blah, I ain't telling you nothing. I'm gonna give me an attorney. I'm gonna call my attorney. As soon as I get the phone with you, I'm calling the attorney. Hey man, this is bad accident and I was involved, so I'm probably going to keep my mouth shut, but I'm just letting you know.
- [52:44]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes, sir.
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Shannon Sharpe
That's just thinking like that. Just thinking. But in a situation like that, Ocho, guys, we got to just be smart. And I get it. I was young. I ain't fit to sit here. I ain't fit to beat the man up too much because I've done some things that I look back at it like, boy, boy, Mary Porter, no, she was a God fearing woman and she laid some prayers down because ain't no way. Some situations that I was in a lot of stuff, I told y'all some of the situation. There's some situations then that, hey, my casket go, hey, Ocho. They might have to have my casket on the forklift because all these stories that I'm gonna take with me gonna make it real heavy. And I catch it real heavy. Some things you just. You know what, Shannon? Just go on and take that with you. But guys, we just gotta be careful. Come on. The family, that lost loved one. Loved one. And the injured part is, you know, your heart goes out and you empathize with them because this is something that could have been prevented. This is not a tire blew out, Ocho. You know what I'm saying? This is not a deer jumps out in the road or something like that. This was, and most accidents are human error. This was human error.
- [53:59]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes, sir.
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Shannon Sharpe
And it could have been prevented. But like I said, Ocho, I've been young and I just feel bad because that's a heavy burden to bear, Ocho, that you call someone to have to get that knock on the door and tell them that that family member ain't coming home, you responsible. That. That's, that's, that's on you, bro.
- [54:22]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
And so, guys, we just gotta. You just gotta be smarter and try not to put ourselves in those situations. Things are going to happen, but you know, accident, no, that's, that's, that's, that's irresponsibility.
- [54:33]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, most definitely. And one, one thing about it, one thing about that man upstairs. When you're not moving the way you should move and you're not answering or heeding to the signs that he gives you that you should slow down, stuff like this happens to you. It gets you to sit down to get you to slow down. It gets you to understand you ain't moving the way you should be moving. So since you're not listening to me and the signs that I'm giving you, let me sit you down in a different way.
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Shannon Sharpe
The NFL All Pro Team was announced. The quarterback, the first team quarterback, Lamar Jackson.
- [58:53]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes sir.
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Shannon Sharpe
It's hard to see a scenario with the first team all pro quarterback doesn't win mvp. I can't recall a situation where that's happened. If you go back, you look at over the last decade plus every quarterback that's been the first team all pro mvp. Normally, like I said, especially if the quarterback is going to win the award. Now there's a situation that Peyton was the first team quarterback but Adrian Peterson won the award. We believe you and I believe that a quarterback is going to win the award. You went Josh. I went Lamar. I think Lamar is going to win the award. It's going to be hard for him to be like, hold on, if Josh Allen is the mvp, he should have been first team all team quarterback. Correct?
- [59:41]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
And because Lamar is the first team. So that's where I think it's going to go. But let's go ahead and run through it. Saquon first team running back Patrick Richard Ricard is the first team fullback. Brock Bowers is the first team all probably tight end. You had two unanimous selections at wide receiver. Both former Tigers. Jamar Chase. Justin Jefferson. The slot is Amon Ross St. Brown, left tackle for the first time we've had it. He was a right all pro right tackle and he's been an all pro left tackle. That's Tristan Worth, left guard. Joe Tuney, center Creed Humphrey, right guard Quinn Ranieres, Bronco. And right tackle is Panay Sewell.
- [60:25]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [60:26]
Shannon Sharpe
Now Sewell is the one that surprised me. Cause I kind of thought they would go with Lane Johnson. Right. Cause Lane has had a hell of a season. The first team All Pro defense, Miles Garrett, Trey Hendrickson are your edge. Cam Hayward. Cam Hayward and Chris Jones are your interior. Zach Braun, Fred Warner are your inside linebackers along with Roquan Smith. Pat Surtain had 49 of the 50 votes. Daryl Stingley Jr. Marlon Humphrey is the slot corner. Kerry Joseph is the safety along with Xavier McKinney. Now, I pass. Sir Tan is not unanimous.
- [61:06]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right. There's always one oddball. Huh? There's always one oddball. Always. That's why I said the people that do the boating, they need to be revealed. They need to be revealed. And who was. If you got 49 votes, who's the oddball? You know what that remind me of? Remember that episode of Martin.
- [61:24]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [61:25]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Where Colt Martin, they were deliberating on the. On the guilty. Somebody being guilty for something that you remember the episode kept saying innocent.
- [61:34]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [61:36]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, man. This is. That's. That's what reminds me of. But one of the. One of the things I like. Who was the other corner on the other side?
- [61:42]
Shannon Sharpe
Derek Stingley Jr. Hey, Stingley's the real deal. Oh, yeah, for sure. He had the unbelievable season.
- [61:49]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes. I'm glad. I'm glad he's getting the recognition that he deserves for the way he's been playing. Not just this year, last year as well. Derek is very, very good. Very good.
- [62:08]
Shannon Sharpe
Sec. SCC. Sec. So you had Brock Bowers, Sec. Chase, Sec. Jefferson, Sec. You got Myles Garrett. Sec. You got Chris Jones. Sec. You got Roquan Smith. Sec. You got Pat Sartan. Sec. You got Derek Stingley Jr. Sec. You got Marlon Humphrey. Sec. You got Xavier McKinney, Sec. But the Sec ain't the conference. I missed something, but that's okay. Who else? Okay, that's it. I don't know what. Zach Brown went to Wisconsin, so he ain't it. Fred Warner went to byu. Cam went to. I think Cam Hayward went to Pittsburgh. Trey Hendrickson, I'm not familiar where he went to school. I know Miles went to A and M. Creed Humphrey went to Oklahoma, didn't he? I think Creed Humphrey went to Oklahoma, so he might be another SEC guy. Yeah. So you got 1, 2, 3, 4 for your 12 offense in the SEC. And you got Chris Jones, you got Miles Garrett, you got Roquan Smith, Pat Surtan, Derek Stingley Jr. Marlon Humphrey, Xavier McKinney. So 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. Seven of the 12 All Pro Defense Sec.
- [63:36]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Just saying, you know, is it really the conference or is it the player? They just, they just so happen to play for collegiate teams in the sec.
- [63:48]
Shannon Sharpe
Why you think they go there? You ain't going. You, you're not going to Georgia and Alabama and Texas A and M to be a Rhodes scholar. You're going to go to the NFL. I'm just, I'm just gonna be 1,000 with you. That's why you go to those schools. The same reason Ohio State.
- [64:06]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [64:07]
Shannon Sharpe
What am I going to Ohio State for?
- [64:09]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [64:10]
Shannon Sharpe
Now maybe if I go to Stanford, man, I sure hope it. But I'm really thinking about I'm gonna be a finance. I'll be econ or be something like that. You go there, you know what you, you know what you're thinking about.
- [64:20]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, most definitely. Most definitely.
- [64:22]
Shannon Sharpe
Cause them coaches gonna tell you, son, you're not here on the academic scholarship, you're not here in the band, you're here to play football. Yeah, that's what Coach Davis would tell us all the time. Son, I saw your grades. You couldn't get in prison. But this is new. Normally an indication.
- [64:51]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes, sir.
- [64:51]
Shannon Sharpe
The first team all pro quarterback.
- [64:54]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [64:54]
Shannon Sharpe
And we think that's going to be Lamar Jackson is the first. And I said it's a tough decision. Ocho. I voted for this award for a decade. I took it very, very seriously. That's what really, you know, you watch all the games and plus like when you're in studio, Ocho, they got. And so you're watching all the games and you watching you taking notes and you watching O line play and you watching D line play and you watching all of this because you got to vote for it. Because you got to vote for the all Pros. And it's just not like the Pro bowl where you just vote for conference. You're voting for the best player at said position regardless of conference. And so it looks like Lamar Jackson is going to be a back to back mvp. That's what it's looking like. The writing on the wall. If I'm reading the tea leaves correctly and I read at a really good level. Maybe not pronounce all the words correctly, but I read at a good level.
- [65:44]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right. I'm going to be happy for Lamar, obviously, with my Bengals being out. My hope, my hope for Lamar is to do what he's done in the regular season, but carry that same magic in the postseason. Carry that same magic in the postseason. As much as I love my Bengals, as much as I am who they from head to toe, if there is a team out the AFC that I would love to host at Lombardi, it's not the team itself, but it would be for Lamar. It would be for Lamar to actually win that Lombardi Trophy just to get that monkey off his back.
- [66:22]
Shannon Sharpe
You got to Ocho, he's just so.
- [66:24]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
An elite company with very few that have done it. So that pressure that, that, that haunts him, especially in the postseason, is gone. It's no longer there.
- [66:37]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [66:37]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So he's talked about in the class of. With the elites obviously being a.
- [66:42]
Shannon Sharpe
The Brady, the Mannings, the Joe Montanas, the guys that's won multiples.
- [66:49]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right.
- [66:50]
Shannon Sharpe
Cause he was. He's the only multiple that doesn't have a, that doesn't have a Super bowl. Now he's 28. He got years to go. But. And that's the thing that people don't. I'm not saying that his career. Because his career, by no, by no stretch would be a disappointment. It would be. I think it'd be disappointing. It wouldn't be a failure. Because if you got three or four MVPs and you got no Super Bowls. Come on now, let's be real.
- [67:17]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
This is disappointing, but it's not a fan.
- [67:19]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, hell no. Okay, man, that means you, that means you want. You got three now he get a couple Super Bowls. We gotta start talking about this, man. The top five quarterback.
- [67:32]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Absolutely, absolutely.
- [67:33]
Shannon Sharpe
You gotta start talking about it because right now, top five, no matter how you slice it, you gotta say Brady, you gotta say Montana, you gotta say Mahomes. It doesn't matter though. We know Brady got all the, you know, he got three MVPs, five Super Bowl MVPs, he got seven Super bowl, so he has to be one. But Joe, but Joe and Patrick Mahone. Patrick Mahomes need one more playoff win and he'll tie Joe for the second most wins for a quarterback in playoff history.
- [68:01]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
So this is where Lamar Jackson you would have to see. And a guy that many thought he needed to be a wide receiver, many thought he needed to be a running back. The guy that said he couldn't do what he couldn't do, what he couldn't do, somehow he's turned himself into a three time league MVP and a potential super bowl winner, then there's nothing else you can say.
- [68:23]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And that is my argument and why I said what I said earlier. My little spiel. When it comes to scouts talking about this week's the draft coming up now there are no talents like Lamar Jackson was when he was coming out of Louisville but just the fact that those watching that is supposed to be professionals that are going back to owners and gens and telling them who's what and who's who. This is the eye. Your eye tells you that individual should play running back. Your eyes tell you that this, this individual should go play receiver.
- [68:53]
Shannon Sharpe
All Lamar is doing is what he did at Louisville when he won Heisman. You tell me what he's not doing. He threw for 3500 yards in about 12, 13 games. He rushed for 13, 14, 1500 yards. So tell me what he's doing different now than what he did at Louisville when he won, when he won the, the Heisman? Nothing.
- [69:12]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He's, he's improving. He's a better throw of the ball. I know that he is.
- [69:17]
Shannon Sharpe
But before oo, before this renaissance, they would have moved Lamar Jackson or he'd had to go to Canada. Like, like, like Warren Moon.
- [69:25]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Warren Moon, Doug Flutie, Kurt Warner.
- [69:29]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, he, they, he done moved. They'd have moved it. Yeah, there are a lot of guys that had the ability, but oh no, he's black quarterback. You know, he, he was.
- [69:38]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, let it. Yeah, that stigma was heavy, boy. Mind you, that stigma's still there. Yeah, it's still there. No, guess what?
- [69:50]
Shannon Sharpe
Not everybody looking for the athletic quarterback.
- [69:52]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Because the game has changed. The game itself has changed. Offensively, they don't want statues anymore. No, they, they. You could, you can be a statue, but if you're a statue, you got to be that much more special, especially when it comes to your arm strength in your arm talent.
- [70:08]
Shannon Sharpe
Today, Lane Johnson locker had a stat sheet compared his stats to pene Sewell's season after Johnson was voted second team all pro. Basically it said sacks allowed, lane Johnson allowed zero sack. Sewell allowed one. Quarterback hits, Lane allowed one. Sewell allowed five quarterback hurries, Johnson nine. Sewell 22. Pressures allowed, Johnson 10, Sewell 48. Pass block, win rate. Lane won 94% of his Sewell 91%. Allen rate 75%. He was 1, Sewell 55%. He was 58. Quarterback. Time to throw. 3.13 seconds. Sewell 2.79 seconds. Run block win rate 80% Sewell wasn't ranked team rushing yards 3,048 for the Eagles, 2,488 for Sewell. Yeah, so in other words, his teammates say, bro, that should have been you.
- [71:15]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, most definitely. But you know, it's hard to argue too. Panay Sule was the real deal.
- [71:20]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh yeah, for sure.
- [71:21]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ladies, listen, Lane Johnson is the real deal. Now, when you want to get the nitpicking and, and picking them apart. You do things like that by putting the numbers in someone's locker a little bit. A little. A little bit more motivation.
- [71:34]
Shannon Sharpe
Fired up. He gonna dominate somebody.
- [71:36]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [71:37]
Shannon Sharpe
I feel sorry for playing. They're playing Green Bay boy. I feel sorry for that.
- [71:41]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That most definitely. We talk about the two best right tackles in the game, huh?
- [71:47]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [71:48]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Two best right tackles in the game. And you can close your eyes, you can put on a blindfold, and you could pick either one. You think they gonna get the job done? Yep, they gonna get the job done. So it had to be somebody. And, you know, congratulations to Panay, you know, and Lane Johnson. No need to hang your head. You know who he is, we know who you are.
- [72:11]
Shannon Sharpe
Mike Evans admitted before his first meeting with Marshawn Latimer earlier this season that he hasn't done a good job of controlling his emotion against his nemesis. The Bucs receiver has let. Has let the now commander's cornerback get up under his skin. Evans was ejected once and has served a 2:1 game suspension for his actions against Lattimore while losing more than 100,000 in fines. Lattimore warned Evans this week that Evans is going to know he's there. Evans admit he's got to be disciplined. I just got to be at my best. I've got to give my best because he's a really good player. Obviously, we've had a lot of good matchups. If he's playing, I look forward to the matchup.
- [72:54]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
See, I love that. I love that. I love the fact that Latimore came out and said, you gonna know I'm here. You gonna know I'm here. That mystique, the mystique that they provided us, the entertainment they provided us when they had those matchups between the Saints and the goddamn Bucks. That was what we as fans, me now being a fan of the game, we need that. Yeah, I need that. I'm excited for it. I'm going to be tuned in. I'm going to have my popcorn ready. If I was Lattimore, what I would do, I would tell my defensive coordinator, listen, wherever Lavin goes, whether he goes to the left, where they go to the right, if he goes to the slot, I'm following him everywhere on the field. I mean, that's just me. That's just me. But that matchup is going to be very exciting, huh? I'm not sure if it will be as exciting as it was, as it once was when they were the same, when it was The Saints in the Bucks. But it's going to be a good matchup whenever they. Whenever those two are lined up against each other. And Latimo will probably be a man to man. He'll probably be a man to man, so it'll be dope. I'm really excited. Again, Evans. Lattimore can do everything he can to get under Evan's skin. He can do everything he can if it comes to pushing and shoving and, you know, a little hollering, a little cussing, you know, maybe it. That's fine. It's the playoffs, and boy got to get at it. I think the thing is, I'm right in front.
- [74:11]
Shannon Sharpe
Center Mike Evans has to understand this is finality. There ain't no next week, okay? Y'all come to Tampa or we gotta go to New Orleans. You lose this game, you're going home. You don't want to lose this game because you didn't control your emotions and you got tossed. And you left your teammates high and dry.
- [74:28]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right?
- [74:28]
Shannon Sharpe
You got to be smart. Yeah.
- [74:30]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [74:30]
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho, you know, he going. First of all, you know he going to shove you. You know, he gonna get up and try to put his acorns on your helmet. You already know he gonna do stuff. I'm doing everything I can to get up under your skin. And guess what? I might get up and I might cleat your hand. So you better ball your fist up. Cause if your hand flat, I'm gonna step on it. Right?
- [74:50]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Remember what I said yesterday about the NFL? The memo that the NFL posted that they put out again, within the game. Have fun within the game. Understand the rules, be able to control your emotions at the end of the day. Have fun. Yeah, you got to have fun. You know, it's still footballing the day. You don't have to do anything special. It just is another game with implications in the stakes are a little bit higher. Yeah, that's.
- [75:16]
Shannon Sharpe
And you know, Ocho, you make a play, don't. Hey. Don't do nothing at the sideline. Don't. Yeah, Don't. Hey, don't get no unsports, black conduct. Don't get no taunting penalties. Hey, hey, what's the game over?
- [75:32]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You can do all you want to do. Talking trash, point, matter of fact, go to the middle of the field, step on the logo, do all that.
- [75:41]
Shannon Sharpe
Do all that. But I'm not going to do anything that's going to potentially cost my team 15 yards. Cost. Now all of a sudden, I put them in field goal range. Ocho. Now all of A sudden I give him an extra set of downs. I'm not going to do anything because I do not want that burden on me. Yeah, I don't. But it's going to be a good matchup. I don't know how healthy Marshawn Latimer is. Mike Evans is extremely healthy, and I think both of these guys are looking for this matchup.
- [76:11]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, yeah.
- [76:12]
Shannon Sharpe
So it's going to be very, very interesting to see how this thing plays out, because you look, it doesn't matter if I don't like you. It doesn't matter you went to another team. I still don't like you. It wasn't the uniform I didn't like. It was your monkey ass.
- [76:28]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You know what? And. And those who are one of the few battles outside of Odell. Odell Beckham and Josh Norman.
- [76:36]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [76:37]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Michael Crabtree and Akib Talib and these two. It's personal.
- [76:42]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, it's personal.
- [76:44]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They really don't like each other. When you think it's just football. No, it ain't just football.
- [76:48]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [76:48]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It ain't football. I think if they would see each other in public, you already know what time it is.
- [76:52]
Shannon Sharpe
It's a situation, Ocho, where it's easier to have these kind of rivals when you in the same division.
- [76:57]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right.
- [76:58]
Shannon Sharpe
Lattimore and Tampa, you know, Lattimore and Tampa are in the same division, so we saw each other two times a year. Sometimes we might see each other. Third time the Raiders and the Broncos were in the same division.
- [77:10]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right.
- [77:10]
Shannon Sharpe
So we gonna see you home and away. So it's easier to kind of. And that, you know, rivalry is easy. When you. Pittsburgh and. Pittsburgh and Baltimore, they're in the same division. Washington and Dallas, the Giants and the Eagles, you're in the same division, so where you going?
- [77:27]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, you're right. You know what? I just. I forgot about another one. We talk about things being personal where it's outside the football and they really on that. Listen, Levi Jones, remember the left tackle? Our left tackle? Yeah, for the. Levi Jones and Joey Porter.
- [77:41]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, boy, man. PZ got PvP. Had it for everybody, man.
- [77:48]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Listen, I'm no, this. Hey, they were. They worse than Lattimore. Them. They fight on the field. They see each other in the club. They. They brawling. They saw each other. Vegas, they brawling. I'm sorry. And I think still to this day, I think they haven't resolved those issues. I'm like, oh, come on, man. Listen, it was. It was a joy to watch some boys go at it, though, man, on the field.
- [78:10]
Shannon Sharpe
Well every DB Smitty hating Steve Smith Sr.
- [78:13]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He hated everybody like nobody he wasn't there to make no friends either, no oh no now he never make no.
- [78:21]
Shannon Sharpe
Friends, no, no spitting the same you know what you gonna get if you rock with you he rock with you if he don't, he don't and don't don't fool with it and he gonna.
- [78:30]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Let you know he don't with you the volume.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, Jenice Torres here and I'm Austin Henkiewicz. We're the hosts of Mind the Business Small Business Success Stories produced by Ruby Studio and Intuit QuickBooks. Catch up on seasons one and two and join us for a brand new season of the podcast as we talk to small business owners about how they manage and grow their businesses with the.
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Shannon Sharpe
Help of platforms like Intuit QuickBooks. Listen to mind the Business Small Business.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Success Stories on the iHeartRadio app, Apple.
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Shannon Sharpe
Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Amazon Pharmacy Presents Painful Thoughts the guy in front of me in the pharmacy line is halfway through an incredibly deep, detailed 17 minute story about his gout. A story likely more painful than the gout itself. Next time, save yourself the pain and let Amazon Pharmacy deliver your meds right to your door. Amazon Pharmacy Healthcare just got less painful.