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Shannon Sharpe
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Bonus bets expire 168 hours after issuance. See dkng.com promos for deposit, wagering and eligibility restrictions terms and responsible gaming resources. Hello ladies and gentlemen and thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Congratulations is in order for the Buckeyes of Ohio State with a convincing 34:23 victory over the Fighting Irish. Irish tried to put up a fight late, but the Buckeyes were just too much early and in between and they win the 2025 National Championship 34 to 23. Thank you for joining us. I'm your favorite UNC. Shannon Sharp, Liberty City Legend, Bingo Ring of Fame. Audrey the Pro Bowler, the all that's Chad Ochocinco Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit that like button. And while you're at it, tell a family friend, a loved one to do likewise. Make sure you go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you again for joining us. 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The tickets are on sale now. The link is pinned at the top of the chat. The VIP meet and greet tickets are sold out, but there's still many other tickets left to attend the big show which will be held February 6th in New Orleans at the Mahalia Jackson Theater. We've got some big guests coming through. You don't want to miss it. Both Nightcap and Club Shay Shay were nominated for NAACP Image Awards. Nightcap was nominated for outstanding podcasts in the art, sports, entertainment. Club Shay Shaya. Club Shay Shay was nominated for outstanding podcast. Society and culture. Please go vote for your two favorite guys, Unc and Ocho. The link is pinned in our social bios. We have a very special guest. Joining us tonight is the husband of the gentleman that was profiled. We showed you the video last night. He was kind enough to join us. And so he's gonna tell his side of the story, what was going through his mind, what was he thinking and the ramification because this incident happened in November and so he's gonna be able to walk us through step by step as he recall it. So thank him for joining us. But that's gonna be after Ocho and I discussed the game. Yeah, Ocho. The Buckeyes take down the Fighting Irish to win the 90. The Buckeyes beat the Fighting Irish 3423 to win the inaugural 12 team college football playoff. It's their first national championship since they won. They won the first one, didn't they? Yeah, they won the first one, the 14 playoff in 2014. And so history repeated itself. They won the inaugural this one. Total yards, Ohio State 445. Notre Dame 291. Total rush yards, Ohio State 214. Notre Dame 53 passing yards. Will Howard was 17 of 21. 231, two touchdowns, no interception. Riley Leonard was 20 of 30, 238, two touchdowns, no interceptions. Ryan Day now has as many national titles in Ohio State is Jen Trestle and Urban Meyer. 45 year old day is now 7010 and I think he has the third best winning percentage of somebody in the first minimum of 50 games. First 50 games he's done that. That. So he's had an impressive run. And now after all those wins and all those guys that he sent to the NFL. Yeah, guess what? He hasn't got a title. He finally had one. O Joe.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Watching this game, I saw you tweet like, hey, can we start Nightcap early? What. What were you thinking? I mean, you saw, I mean, Notre Dame Go right down the field, ocho. They take 10 minutes off the clock and they get. And they get a touchdown. So now you're like, okay, we might have a ball game.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, listen, I thought we were going to have a ball game, but I had to think about. Obviously, there were no adjustments that were able to be made by Ohio State. The game on both sides of the ball. Nobody had settled in yet. Nobody had settled in yet. So it's the first drive. Normally, you know, when it comes to an NFL game, a college game, even a high school game, most of the time the first drive of the game, you go down and score. If you're a good team, if you're a decent team, go down the score and then adjustments are made going into the second drive. And outside of that, and then actual football game happens itself. It looked like to me at the point I sent the tweet out, it looked like, I'm not going to. Notre Dame has been good all year. They lost one game. They've been good all year, but it just looked like they didn't belong. It looked like they were. They were overmatched. They were overmatched. As most people would say, if you were a gambler, man, and you and you were to bet on a team to win this game based on what they did throughout the entire season and based on the skill sets at the different positions, position and who had the upper hand, he would have bet with Ohio State. And it showed up tonight. They put enough space in between them when Notre Dame got the ball rolling where they didn't have enough time to come back.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I thought they got kind of got conservative also. They just started just running the football, trying to run the clock out, and they got away from the offense, and they allowed Notre Dame to gain some momentum. Notre Dame did a good job of punching the ball out from the receiver. He picked up 24 yards, and the guy came from behind him and punched the football out. But I thought, like, look, the strong suit of Notre Dame is their defense. The strong suit of Ohio State is their offense. Now, could Notre Dame's office do enough damage to Ohio State's defense? I didn't think, you know, once it got. I thought for me, once the guy scored, got 14, 17. I remember calling myself like, it's over. She's like, yeah, just. Boy. I said, but nah. I said, but you look. Look at them, how they're just moving the ball down the field with little to no resistance, willingly. So I was like, yeah, it's over. The next thing you know, it's 21 7, it's 28 7. I thought it was about to be really be over O2. I thought it was about to go to 35 to 7. They end up kicking what, kicking a field goal. And Ohio State gets some momentum when they, when they got the, the fumble. But Ohio State was a superior team. I always felt that if they played their best when, when the, when the format was the 12 teams that were, you know, we're going to play for the national championship, I was like, if Ohio State plays their best, they're the best team in football because they got an offense that can with superior athletes. And they played $20 million for a roster. It was just a matter of where they going to play their best on a given day. Because we've seen them struggle. You know, this is the team that was what, three touchdown favorite, lose at home to Michigan. And so if they played their best, I didn't think any team could beat them. Now there are teams that have, okay, got a really good defense, so, so offense, really good offense, so, so defense. I thought Texas was probably the closest thing to them and we saw Texas take them down to the wide. Then they get that strip sack and they put some distance between them. But Ohio State, congratulations to Ryan Day. I mean, he caused a lot of criticism and I think, and I think it was warranted. And then people don't want to like, just look at it like he won the national championship, but he's underachieved with the players that he had on that roster. Those receivers that he sent to the NFL, those D linemen, those DBs, those offensive linemen. And now this is his first title. Can't take that away from him. He has it.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You can't, you can't take it away from him now. And you talk about all the players he's had, all the players that have gone into the draft, first round picks, second round picks, but you also have to remember the teams that he lost to, lost to he, that the teams that he's lost to, you know, throughout those years, they also had first round picks. You know, they, they also, they have.
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Shannon Sharpe
Marvin Harrison Jr. And Jackson Smith and Jigba and Olave and who is that? What's the. Garrett Wilson and Denzel Ward and what's the other, what's the other guy name?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You see what you're doing too is you're naming, you're naming players that played for the Ohio State. Some of them, not at the same time, some did play together, but also the team that they played that they lost to. They played well together as a team. Now I can't call out all the names of the players that played on the teams that they lost to in the past. Yes, he was catching some of the flack that he had. So the team that they did lose to, these weren't no slouches. Now they've been losing some boys back.
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Shannon Sharpe
To back national champions and the Big Ten in Michigan last year. This year, Ohio State. Ohio. I mean, the Big Ten is feeling really good now. Like, okay, what's up, sec? What's good, right? What's really, really, really happening. But I mean, when you just look at a mocho, I mean, the athletes that they got at the skill position, you know, the running backs, the wide receivers, you know, hey, Jeremiah Smith is going to be a, to be a top pick just like Marvin Harrison Jr. Just like all these other guy, all the other receivers that they've had. Olave and Garrett Wilson and, and Jackson Smith and Jigba. Go ahead.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I have a question. As as polished, as polished as Jeremiah Smith is, as NFL ready as he looks, how soon can he come out in the draft?
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Shannon Sharpe
He's a freshman. He can't come out till after junior year.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So it's in junior year no matter what.
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Shannon Sharpe
No matter what.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay.
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Shannon Sharpe
No matter what.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Think about this. Look at how we look this year as a freshman. Imagine the improvement that's going to happen in the off season and how you're going to look at the sophomore. I wouldn't be surprised unless a quarterback comes out of nowhere. Maybe Archie Manning would be the only one. Archie Manning is the only one I see rivaling him or giving him competition for that number one pick. Unless there's somebody else chat, maybe in the chat that you might know that's going to come along that I don't know about. Obviously that's going to be good enough to challenge Jeremiah Smith for that number one pick in what, 2027 to 2028.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, but here's the thing though. Ojo up to theoretically Archie Manning come out next year. This would be his junior year. Yeah. Remember, he's a sophomore.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ah, he is a sophomore. That's right.
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Shannon Sharpe
So he lives to be his rising junior year.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay. Okay.
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Shannon Sharpe
So theoretically he could come out after this year. I'm not saying that he would. His uncle stayed all four years. Right. And you know, obviously money is not the issue. No. And the thing is, for me, a lot of these guys are looking at it. The quicker I can come out, the quicker I can get to that second contract that's going to be now $300 million.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. But you also have to be careful, especially as a quarterback position. I know you're a Manning, but are you ready? Are you ready to be able to play at the next level? Have you been? Have you been. I like, I like using the word polished because you can tell at the collegiate level when a player is polished enough and already ready for the NFL. NFL level. Now for Archie Manning, if you do come out early, you have to understand you're going to a team that's bad is the situation. Right. The team that happened to be picking first or second, they can pull a power move. Are you going to a situation that suits you, you know, where you can be okay, that has somewhat of a support cast, where you can, where you can succeed. Even, even so many factors come into.
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Shannon Sharpe
Play at that point in time. Ocho, it doesn't matter if you're ready. Somebody's about to hand you $50 million in port and all of it's going to be fully guaranteed. And now you're one step closer to 300 million. That's what guys are looking at, Ocho, because all you do is kick the can down the road until you get to that big payday. Because quarterbacks, they're redoing their deal after that third year. Everybody else normally waits to after the fourth year.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But you got to think about something, huh? Quarterbacks that are in very good situation do their deals after the third year. Like a C.J. stroud, like a Jay. But look what happened to Atre Lance, who also went early, you know.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Kicking down the can down the road. And look, you went to a situation that wasn't suitable for you long term and now you're the backup of the third string with the Cowboys.
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Shannon Sharpe
He got beat out. What you mean it wasn't they. So Brock Purdy beat him out. I mean, he. Look, he got Ocho. You mean to tell me you actually think somebody will trade what they traded two first rounders a second and a third and want a seventh round, Mr. Irrelevant to take his spot.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Just imagine what would have happened if they don't take Brock Purdy and Trey Lance is their quarterback. Kyle Shanahan and John lynch would get fired. He saved their job.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
You can't trade all that draft. Oh, you can't trade all that draft capital.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right.
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Shannon Sharpe
Cause if he doesn't pan out, you stuck.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
How do you rebuild if you've given away all your draft capital?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ar, I have a question.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Do you think they moved too fast. Was he really that bad? Just think about it. If you. If you remember, was he that bad?
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Shannon Sharpe
Maybe Purdy was that good.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Nuh. No disrespect to Purdy.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Look what's surrounding him. Come on now.
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Shannon Sharpe
And guess what? Trey Lance had that surrounding him and he couldn't make it work like that.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Okay. I'm just curious. We off talking.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh, Joe, I could give you the same ingredients that I give, that I give Bobby Flay, I give Gordon Ramsay. Can't afford to be top not shelf. It don't matter. You can't make it work like they make it work.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right, right, right, right. Pert was a better fit.
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Brittany Jenkins
Per.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Per was a better fit. I don't think he the better. I don't think he's a better quarterback. I don't know if that makes sense. I don't know if that makes sense to you. Because listen, if it. And what we saw from Fields. I'm talking about, we. What we saw from Trey Lance, right? The small, very, very, very small sample size where Jerry Jones pulled that. You know what? Bull crap. He looked great. He looked good. He looked decent. He looked like a quarterback that can be at the helm and be a leader of men. So I'm like, I'm thinking to myself, well, damn, if you run an office like this and it ain't that bad. What was the problem down there in San Francisco?
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Shannon Sharpe
I don't know, Ojo. I mean, like I said, I just. I think the thing is, like, you know, when you give up that kind of capital for a guy, you want him to succeed because it makes you look bad. The reason, the only reason we're not talking about how big a mistake that was is because Brock Purdy has played so well. He's got him in two NFC championship games, he's taking him to the Super Bowl. So we forget what a colossal mistake drafting him and trading all that capital to get him was, because had it not been for that, I'm not so sure they survived that. I don't know if a team can survive. You give up that much. Because think about it. To move up, you gave him the next year's first round pick. You gave him a second round pick, a third round pick. That's your future a lot.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
And so you're hoping, oh, we give that up, so what we gonna be picking in the late 20s, maybe even 30, 30, 31, 32. Cause we would have made a deep playoff run. But lo and behold, guess what? You give up that pick and look where you are. And so, yeah, it was really tough. And I think, you know, I think Brock Purdy really saved John lynch and Kyle Shanahan's careers in San Francisco. Because if you don't. If you. If that doesn't pan out with Trey Lance, where do you go from there? It's tough, but it's gonna be. It. It's gonna be very interesting to see how the 49ers play this thing out, Ocho, because Mark purdy's gonna want 50 million.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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Shannon Sharpe
I'm just gonna tell you what he want. I'm not saying they're gonna have to do something.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It ain't about what he want. Now, if they gonna do something, he can get, he can get. Like what Sam Donald probably gonna get in Minnesota. I doubt they. I doubt.
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Shannon Sharpe
I doubt. Sam Donald ain't never went to an NFC championship game. Sam Darling never went to a play, went to a Super Bowl. I know guys that have gotten 50 million and ain't never been to a Super Bowl. We all have experience paying extra fees. Like the one time I had a layover in Salt Lake City, they canceled my flight and I had to buy another plane ticket just to make it home. When we're trying to make progress, life's curveballs often feel like taking one step forward and two steps backwards. A Chime checking account makes financial progress easier with features like no maintenance fees, fee free, overdraft up to $200, or getting paid up to two days early with direct deposit. Don't even ask me how I paid for my first house when I made it to the league. That's the beauty of Chime. Chime helps you make progress. Fee free, overdraft up to $200 by applying your next deposit to your balance. In addition, there's no monthly fees or maintenance fees, and chime offers over 50,000 fee free ATMs. Make progress towards a better financial future with Chime. Open an account in 2 minutes@chime.com nightcap that's chime.com nightcap Chime feels like progress. Banking services and debit cards provided by Bancorp North America or Stride Bank North America members. FDIC Spot Me eligibility requirements and overdraft limits apply. Booths are available to eligible Chime members enrolled at Spotme and are subject to monthly limits. Timing depends on submission of payment file. Fees apply at out of network ATMs. You can count on T Mobile to help keep you connected. From big cities to small towns on America's largest 5G network. Switch the T Mobile keep your phone and they'll pay it off up to 800 bucks per line via prepaid card. Learn more@t mobile.com Keep and switch up to four lines via virtual prepaid card. Allow 15 days qualifying unlock device credit service port in 90 plus days with device and eligible carrier and timely redemption required. Card has no cash access and expires in six months. Hey guys, this is Matt Jones. Drew Franklin from the Fade this podcast. We got a great episode coming up. Picks in all the sports football basket, we do them all. But here's a preview of this week's episode. I've seen people in the gambling community kind of make jokes about fade this and we just goof off and don't even talk about the games. Bring your records and set them on this table right now. All you out there that are spend two hours talking about the games and will in the last seven years and night games they've come in and haven't scored 20 points and you get too detailed. Bring your records right here to fade this. We'll we'll talk about books in in cooking and Kevin Costner and still make more money betting on sports than you will. And this episode was brought to you in partnership with DraftKings. To hear more, listen and subscribe to fade this on iHeartRadio or wherever you listen to podcasts. Amazon One Medical presents Painful Thoughts I could catch anything sitting in this doctor's waiting room. Okay, just wiped his runny nose on my jacket and the guy next to me sitting in a pool of perspiration insists on sharing my armrest. Next time make an appointment with an Amazon One medical provider. There's no waiting and no sweaty guy. Amazon one Medical healthcare just got less painful.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I think he'll probably get somewhat of a Baker Mayfield type deal now you're.
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Shannon Sharpe
Gonna get more than baby.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You have to understand the success on why Brock Purdy been able to do what he what he's done so far today. The supporting cast, look what he has around him. IU Trent Williams, Christian McCaffrey, Jordan Mason, Devo Samuels. I mean like we come on they I mean even management, even management knows I know when you talk to the agents you can't be disrespectful. You have to understand can Brock Purdy go somewhere else and elevate the team around him and elevate the players around him or does he have to have players that are good to elevate his play? There's a difference.
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Shannon Sharpe
There are a lot of quarterback there are Not. There are not a lot of quarterbacks that are force multipliers that they can elevate everybody else. You believe Sam Darnold can go somewhere else and elevate somebody?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, because he would have done it in Carolina or New York.
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Shannon Sharpe
Okay, then.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So look what happens when you put him around Jettis, you know, and. And Addison, Jordan. Addison. Well, you see what you get. Obviously, they. They fold. They folded in the playoffs. But that's what happens. You have a great supporting cast around you, and that can be management's argument, that can be the GM's argument. And the agent and the quarterback has to be realistic. Where else can you go and play the way you've played with us outside of this past season? Look how you played when everybody got hurt.
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Shannon Sharpe
True. But back to this, this Ohio State. Ohio State, definitely. Ryan Day definitely gets the monkey off his back. Ocho. Now we'll see. Can you string something together? It's gonna be. It's. It's much more difficult now, Ocho, to win because you got 12 teams and, you know, one game and it's over. You know, they started out against what he did, Indiana, and then I think. No, Yeah. I think they started out with Indiana and then they beat Oregon, then they beat Texas. So instead of winning two games, now you got to win four. You got to win four games. Yeah. And. But I think the thing is, it's a lot. Guess what? When you win, alumni and boosters, they want to pour money because they like that feeling. They like getting the gear. Ocho, with 20, 25 national champs. That's what they like. And it says, okay, this is what it's going to take in order for us to stay up here, because other teams, they're going to try to regroup. George is like, I don't like this feeling, you know, your Alabamas, your Texas, you know, I think, if I'm not mistaken, I think Sark signed a new seven year deal.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
These teams, you know, everybody is looking to come back. It's gonna be interesting to see how Notre Dame plays this thing because, you know, they had some success this year. I don't know how much they spend in the portal.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
But it's gonna come to a point in time, Ocho, you're gonna have to a. You got to do what you got to do.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
It's really, it's really. It's really that simple. You got to do what you got to do.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You got. You got to put your money where your mouth is.
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Shannon Sharpe
You got to put your money where your Mouth is. And these big time programs, they got 15, $20 million, you know, 15, 20, $25 million. Hey, yeah, I need a quarterback. It's gonna cost me one to two million dollars. I need a top back and top running back. That's Gonna cost me four to 600. Top light receiver, 60 million. Hey, D, line a line about, hey.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Bro, it's gonna cost and oh, you.
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Shannon Sharpe
Talking about an 18, 19 year old Ocho that's gonna have 600, 700, a.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Million dollars out of the gate. Being able to secure your family. A head start in securing your family. Yes, a head start.
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Shannon Sharpe
You know, mama. Hey, they have them projects. We ain't in the projects no more. If we in this section. Ain't no more, mama. No, mama. We got three, we about to get three, four bedrooms with a garage.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And it's so funny how the landscape of the NFL, I mean NFL. It's so funny how the landscape of collegiate football has changed, especially for the Power 5 schools. Especially when you have certain boosters that are willing to spend to ensure that you can win. Everything is pay to play, to pay, baby.
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Shannon Sharpe
They can leave that student athlete Ish alone now. And that's doing that. Hey, student A, this pay for play. These guys making money now. Yeah, all that, the student athletes. And I'm going to get an education. Okay, that'll be nice. That'll be nice if you get that along the way.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But it's something nice to fall back on. It's something nice to fall on.
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Shannon Sharpe
But hey, like this kid from Michigan, they got 12 and a half million.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, I have a question on timeout. Time out, Timeout. Come on now. Are they exaggerating the numbers or is it really 12? Is it really 10 to 12?
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Shannon Sharpe
He got some other perks too. Who is that? What's the guy that at Oracle? Larry Ellison's wife. His wife went to Michigan and so he chipped in. He's like, whatever it takes to get this kid, let's get it.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
See, you see what happens when you have alumni like that now?
- [28:02]
Shannon Sharpe
That's.
- [28:03]
Demichael Jenkins
Yeah.
- [28:04]
Shannon Sharpe
What is he, the third richest? I think he's the third richest man in the world with 200, 220 billion, man. What's 12, what's $12 million to him?
- [28:13]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Nothing.
- [28:15]
Shannon Sharpe
So even if I did, if I did 10%, even if I did 5%, that's like, that's like, that's like a hundred thousand. That's like a thousand dollars to me and you. 12 million to him is like a thousand dollars to you and I.
- [28:28]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right? Right.
- [28:29]
Shannon Sharpe
He ain't missing that.
- [28:31]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Not a chance.
- [28:32]
Shannon Sharpe
Because he wanted. He wants his. He wants to see his program or his wife program succeed. But this is where we are now, Ocho. This student athlete. Bul. Never been that. It's always been that. But it was always. Hush, hush. Okay. Hey.
- [28:46]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [28:46]
Shannon Sharpe
I get you this charger, this challenger, this scat pack. This. You know, this. You know what I'm saying?
- [28:51]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
This what? The scat pack.
- [28:53]
Shannon Sharpe
The scat pack. I get you this SRT8. I get you, though. I get you this hellcat. You know what I'm saying? It was that going on. It was the backwood deals all of a sudden. Damn.
- [29:05]
Demichael Jenkins
How you, bro?
- [29:06]
Shannon Sharpe
Y'all was just in the project with us. How y'all in this three bedroom cross town now? Yeah, now everything is above the board. And it ain't no more challenges, guys driving Ferrari than Lambo. You see what your door had?
- [29:19]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, but see, listen, you gotta. You gotta. You gotta be one of them now. You gotta be one of them. If you're one of them, you could already start your NFL career. And the image as if you've already made it. You got to be him.
- [29:31]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes. So, you know, these the top. The top guys. They're going to be getting, you know, 3, 4 million dollars a year. Arch man ain't gonna be making 4, 5 million. He done made. He probably made 10, 11 million dollars, Ocho already. And you know, hey, he. He come from, you know, Cooper. Cooper ain't Payton and Eli, but he ain't. They ain't hurting.
- [29:53]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Nah, they ain't hurting at all.
- [29:54]
Shannon Sharpe
You know what I'm saying? Yeah, he's stashing all his money. And I just hope the guys that are getting this money, they're getting very sound financial advice, because that's taxes. You're in that bracket, you make over 400,000, you in that bracket and bracket. Yeah, in that bracket day. So in other words, you made 200,000. You didn't make 400. You made 200 because Uncle Sam want his cut. Uncle Sam the only guy that don't go to work and get half your money.
- [30:18]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, and he don't play, too. And if he don't. If he don't get it. If you don't get it. If he don't get it, he gonna knock on your door down the line.
- [30:27]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, he gonna get it. It's just a matter of fact when he get it, because he already know what you got. Cause they can see everything like, oh, you ain't got it like you used to have it, huh? Okay. Oh, oh, you know, interest. Cause they put that compound interest on your ass.
- [30:42]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
- [30:44]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, you can't pay. And guess what? We gonna just plead interest on it until you do pay it all back. Now, they give you. They. When they owe you, they give you a little bit of interest, you owe them. They compound that interest. Yeah, so. But congratulations to the Buckeyes. You saw the. Bryce. Bryce Harper was there. He's a big Ohio State fan. Two time NL MVP, LeBron was there. A lot of the stars were out. It's kind of not my thing to go because like I said, I don't really know anybody that's playing college football. I'm not a big. You know, I like college football, but I mean, me going to a game, it's not like the NBA for me, Ocho. Now, like I said, if I had a friend, somebody had a son that's playing. Okay, yeah, I go check it out. Yeah, I'm a root for him. Yeah. Yeah, right.
- [31:29]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
If. I mean tonight, I mean, I would have loved. I would have loved to go to the game, obviously. I would have been able to watch Ryan Clark's son. I would have been able to watch him play. Actually, Actually being able to watch Jeremiah Smith, it would. It would have been nice to play. But just going to a game, you know, you know, experience the atmosphere just to watch two players that I can watch at home on tv. I mean, it's. Is it. I. I love crime.
- [31:51]
Shannon Sharpe
If Colorado International championship game, I'd have went, oh, yeah, you know, just it. But yeah, yeah, other than that. No, it was Ocho. Without any further ado, I'd like to welcome. Is he about to. We're gonna welcome Demichael Jenkins. He's a season real estate developer, investor, custom home designer, as well as chief operator, officer and owner of 3D Vision. And unfortunately, Ocho, he was involved in a disgusting racial profiling act outside of his own home. And so. Welcome Mikey. Congratulations to your Buckeyes. Well done. I know you selling. I'm surprised you ain't got on your Buckeye shirt. But congratulations to your Buckeyes. To you. And I think that's. If that's your wife.
- [32:37]
Demichael Jenkins
Yeah, yeah.
- [32:37]
Shannon Sharpe
Congratulations, ma'am. Thank you for joining us. Mike. If you can go back, I know it was in November and here we are in late January. If you can recount the events as you remember as vividly as you possibly can.
- [32:50]
Demichael Jenkins
Yeah, I can remember it wasn't too long ago I was leaving one of my real estate job sites in the inner city. Wrapping it up for the day. It was about 5:15. Took me about 45 minutes to get home. I'm proud to go home. Shannon. Something I want you to know is when they say it's a fluent neighborhood, it's one of the most wealthiest neighborhoods in Ohio.
- [33:11]
Shannon Sharpe
Wow, congrats.
- [33:11]
Demichael Jenkins
And my house is the best house.
- [33:14]
Shannon Sharpe
That's what I'm talking about.
- [33:15]
Demichael Jenkins
Because come on now, I designed it from scratch. I'm an architectural designer. I bought the land, I financed the land, designed it from scratch, and I built it from the ground up using all my resources. So proud to come home. I'm pulling up, checking out my Christmas lights. We just put up for the holiday season, and there happens to be a lady in the driveway with two kids. So I don't think nothing of it. Kids coming in and out my house all the time. I got kids, got a family over here. I don't think nothing of it. I think she looking for the front door. I say, hey, are you looking for somebody? She doesn't answer. She then proceeds to go to the porch. So I'm like, okay. So she probably coming over. So I pull in the driveway. I'm about to park, and she rings the doorbell and comes to the front of the front porch and stops me and says, do you live here? And I said, yeah, I live here. She said, well, I don't think so. I, well, what are you doing here? She says, I don't think you live here. Picks the kid up, drops the stroller, hops off the porch, starts running. And I hear screaming, yelling for help. At that point, now I'm in fear. I'm in fear because I know what we face as black men in America. So I rush to the garage, park in the garage, come in the house. My wife's in the office. I said, babe, some white Caucasian lady, she just jumped off our front porch screaming, yelling for help. I don't know if she gonna call the police. I'm pacing back and forth. I don't know what's about to happen. 6pm Regular day. We pacing back and forth. I don't at this point, I'm like, I don't know what's about to happen. She comes back before the police gets here. I don't want to go outside. I don't want to go outside with them outside. And the police pulls up and we're. I don't know what's going to pop off. If police pull up, altercation happen. Anything could happen. I know they're going to talk with Them. So my wife's come outside, and she just wants to. Wants to figure out what's going on because she's in shock. And I let her say how she ended up coming outside or whatnot.
- [35:44]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. When he.
- [35:45]
Brittany Jenkins
Yeah, when he came home and he.
- [35:46]
Shannon Sharpe
Said, you know, I was gonna ask you. He comes into the house. He says, babe, there's a white lady standing on our porch. She's running, yelling, screaming. I don't know what this is about. And so what's going through your mind when he explains what he just encountered?
- [36:03]
Brittany Jenkins
I was in my office working, and I'm confused. I'm not understanding what's going on. Like, what do you mean? As a white woman running through for help, screaming for help for what? He's like, I don't know. And immediately my. I just. Heart dropped. I'm, like, walking and pacing back and forth, like, okay, just wait. Just wait. Okay, well, what happened? Nothing. I was just pulling in the house, and I'm like, what is she screaming for? He's like, I don't know. And I'm like, are you. What? What? And I keep opening up the door because I feel like the police is gonna come here. Somebody's about to come here, and I don't know what's gonna happen. I don't even know what fully happened. I didn't hear anything. I'm in the house working.
- [36:44]
Shannon Sharpe
So she go.
- [36:45]
Brittany Jenkins
And so I kept opening up the door, and that's when I came out.
- [36:48]
Shannon Sharpe
So she called. So she did end up calling the police?
- [36:51]
Brittany Jenkins
She did end up calling the police, yes.
- [36:53]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, so let me ask you a question. Now, this happened in November. The video just recently got released. What caused you guys to release? Because I'm glad this is on re. Because you're absolutely right. Had this not been captured on camera. On video, we already know the story that was gonna be told and how it was gonna be spun. But you guys had it on camera. What made you guys finally decide to release it?
- [37:17]
Brittany Jenkins
Well, I actually released the video in our community Facebook group. We have a community Facebook group, about 500 or so people. And it. Ever since, I've been like. We've been chattered. We've been upset. We've been so many different factors and so many different feelings. So many different feelings. I picked a video in our community Facebook group to share what happened. And it took a lot for me to do that. And then we woke up and the video everywhere.
- [37:51]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You know, it's funny. It's one thing to experience racial profiling in public, you know, in Public. I'm sure we all have stories where it happens in that setting. Well, for it to happen in your own home, I mean, it can be unsettling. It can be uncomfortable, especially when it comes to a place that you call a place of peace that we can all get away from, from the outside world. Has that affected your sense of security and trust in the neighbors? And have you reconciled in any way with the neighbor who caused these issues?
- [38:21]
Brittany Jenkins
Of course there's a lack of trust. Of course it makes us feel unwelcome and unsafe. We have two boys, and he leads our family. He protects our family. So to know that we can't go walk the dog or someone looking at us is what's going to happen. It's a lot of weight, It's a lot of pain, and it's a lot of emotion.
- [38:44]
Shannon Sharpe
I can still.
- [38:45]
Brittany Jenkins
And he's desensitized to this.
- [38:47]
Shannon Sharpe
I still hear it in your voice.
- [38:48]
Brittany Jenkins
So, of course, not once have we got. I thought the next day maybe there would be some flowers at the door saying, not once has this person reached out to us to give us a sincere apology.
- [39:04]
Demichael Jenkins
Hoa.
- [39:06]
Brittany Jenkins
I reached out to Hoa immediately after it happened.
- [39:09]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Nobody said anything.
- [39:10]
Brittany Jenkins
Immediately after it happened.
- [39:11]
Shannon Sharpe
I reached out.
- [39:13]
Brittany Jenkins
Hoa Ghosted me, for lack of better words.
- [39:17]
Shannon Sharpe
Can I ask you this? Prior to that night, prior to that incident, had you ever seen this woman prior to this incident?
- [39:27]
Demichael Jenkins
I've been in the neighborhood for three years. I built the house from the ground up. I know the developers in the neighborhood. I lived in the front of the neighborhood while I built the house. I walked to the job site every day. So have I seen her eye for eye? No. I've walked by their house and seen them on the front porch.
- [39:47]
Brittany Jenkins
So she seen when they came. I didn't recognize.
- [39:50]
Shannon Sharpe
Go ahead, ma'am, Go ahead.
- [39:51]
Brittany Jenkins
I didn't recognize them, but we. But I was going to say the 90%. 90% or more of the neighborhood is predominantly Caucasian. So we're one of one black families in the neighborhood.
- [40:05]
Demichael Jenkins
And our house sits all the way in the back of the neighborhood, and people ride by and take pictures every day. And there's a lot of publicity with our house. So it really was. It was shocking. But they stayed to themselves in the neighborhood.
- [40:22]
Shannon Sharpe
Let me ask you this. When you walk up and you ask, what can I help you with? And she says, is this your house? You say, yeah. And she says, I don't believe you. When someone tells you they're standing on your porch and they tell that's not their Property. And they tell you that this is not your property. What went through your mind when someone is standing on your porch and they say, well, you don't live here.
- [40:48]
Demichael Jenkins
Well, that's when I was battle tested as a black man, As a man had been in prison. That's, you know, had to transition and learn how to put pride and ego to the side and control your emotions.
- [41:02]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay?
- [41:02]
Demichael Jenkins
That's when that kicked in. That was the ultimate battle test. Because in my mind, I said, the audacity. The audacity of her. That was in my mind. But I had to control my emotions in the moment because I knew where it could have escalated at. I'm thinking, well, what if she had a gun? Would she have been running or would I have been running?
- [41:28]
Shannon Sharpe
Is this a situation? Because now she said, well, you have to see it from my point of view. No, I don't need to see anything from your point of view when you standing, you know, what, on my porch. But for her to say, well, you didn't say, well, I really live here. I live here. I don't have identify myself. This is mine. Why do I have to tell you who I am when you standing on my property?
- [41:48]
Demichael Jenkins
It's. I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's. It took everything out of me, you know, not to get out of character. And especially when they came back, you know, she brought her husband back. He was real standoffish. I was. I was scared to go outside, but I sat on it. I was listening. I said, I can't let my wife sit out here with these people. What if the police pull up? So, you know, I went outside and I just had to make my face known. And I had to let them know I do live here. A black man does live here. I did build this house from the ground up. I did design this house. I had to show my face. And as soon as I came outside, you could tell they switched it all the way up. Let's get out of here. Let's go. They switched it all the way up.
- [42:33]
Shannon Sharpe
When the police arrived, what did the police say? Okay, what was the side of the story that they told the police? And then what did the police. What was the interaction once the authorities arrived?
- [42:44]
Demichael Jenkins
I hid in the house. I didn't talk to the police. I'm not out there with them. Those police might gun me down.
- [42:52]
Shannon Sharpe
So you let your wife.
- [42:53]
Demichael Jenkins
I hid in the house.
- [42:54]
Shannon Sharpe
So you let your wife.
- [42:55]
Demichael Jenkins
I let her handle that.
- [42:56]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay?
- [42:57]
Brittany Jenkins
What I made. I mean, I made a report. I Made a police report. It was emotional to make a police report because we all know what happens and you call the police. So I had to think to myself, do I go outside? Do I let them come inside? Do I sit up? Do I stand down? Do I let my son? Do I let my son be stand here? How do I explain this to him? And even explaining and sharing that this lady racially profiled as she ran from our house screaming, there's no telling what people can think. My son came home from work, who's 17, and said, mom, what if I was taking out the trash? What if she had a gun? What are the. Like, what's going on? Why are the police here?
- [43:43]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's crazy. Hey.
- [43:45]
Brittany Jenkins
But I knew I had to make this work.
- [43:48]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And despite the difficulties of the situation you've been through, have you guys. Or are you guys moving forward with reclaiming your sense of safety, being that it is home? And in any way, despite them not giving sincere apologies or letting you know that we welcome you here in our home, especially HOA and the neighbor themselves, do you still have hope and motivation to keep sharing your story from this point on for others that might encounter these situations in ways they can prevent things from happening and being able to.
- [44:21]
Demichael Jenkins
Deescalate those situations 100%. I have nothing against their family, but I grew up dealing with this all the time. So we still have to live here. They live two streets over. We have to ride by each other's house. I'm okay with being cordial with riding by each other's house. Have no issue with them. The issue is getting the word out here and letting my situation and what I've been through and what I overcome be inspiring to people in the world, people that look like me. So that's the space I'm in. And I'm thankful for God because I didn't ask for her to show up on my porch. This is God's movement here. This is God telling me that people need to hear your story. You need to inspire. You need to tell people what's going on and use this so that hopefully this won't happen to the next person or the next person that comes across a caring situation. They will know how to control their emotion. Because us, as black men, especially young black men, we struggle with that. We struggle with that impulse, with that acting. We think irrationally and we never think rationally. So I'm here to inspire people. People. I'm a real estate developer. I build houses from the ground up. Single family houses. But I thought that moving into the most wealthiest neighborhood in Ohio, that this was the right thing to do. But maybe my focus needs to be building communities that's for us and by us so that we can inspire people that look like us. We can build a community that's for us.
- [46:17]
Shannon Sharpe
Can I ask you a question? You said something very interesting. You said she lives two streets up from you. So you mean to tell me she went two streets out of her way to try to find out who lived in this home? Not on your street, not on your street, not on your block, not next to you. Two streets.
- [46:38]
Demichael Jenkins
It's two streets up, but she's all the way north, we're all the way south. It's multimillion dollar houses back here. The lots are big, so it's two streets, but it's still. We can go 30 days, 60, 90 days without seeing each other.
- [46:54]
Shannon Sharpe
So she went out of her way. Let me ask you this. She issued an apology. She also said that she reached out to you and tried to apologize multiple times, but she hasn't had a response from. Has she tried to. Did she try to apologize to you in person, or was it through this video that you guys have seen?
- [47:16]
Brittany Jenkins
She has not tried to apologize to us in person, via phone, via knock at the door, via a phone call, via email? No, only the live videos.
- [47:26]
Shannon Sharpe
Now, apparently, if we were to believe what the report says, that this woman has a history going back as far as 2018 of creating these situations and then making herself out to be a victim. Have you guys seen that? Have y'all seen any of those reports that that's being circulated?
- [47:43]
Demichael Jenkins
I have not seen that. I have not seen.
- [47:45]
Shannon Sharpe
Can I ask you this? I want to ask you this. Have you thought about, since your privacy, your security, have you thought about potentially even leaving that neighborhood and going elsewhere? Or you saying, nah, y'all not finna run us up out our home?
- [48:01]
Demichael Jenkins
100%. I've been in Ohio my whole life and I face racial discrimination at its highest peak. Me, I'm a stereotype person. Tattoos, dreadlocks. A man that's in the professional world, in the real estate development world, that you don't see too many minorities building multi million dollar home. It doesn't happen here. So we 100 have thought about moving to another state, taking my talents elsewhere, building a community to going places where we could be surrounded by more people that look like us, man.
- [48:36]
Shannon Sharpe
So let me ask you a question. What was your relationship with the neighborhood? Did you have any interaction with your neighbors, like to the left of you in the front of you, to the back of you. What's the neighborhood like? I noticed you mentioned it's a very affluent neighborhood. There's a lot of, there are wealthy people that live there. You mentioned million dollar homes. What's the relationship with you in the community other than with this said individual?
- [48:59]
Demichael Jenkins
So it's the wealthiest neighborhood and they got a saying that once you reach a certain tax bracket, race doesn't matter.
- [49:05]
Shannon Sharpe
That's a lie.
- [49:07]
Demichael Jenkins
So it's a lot. But people say that, People say that. So everybody out here, majority people out here, they walk every day, they take pictures of our house. They say hi. You can ask people in the neighborhood. Those people are not friendly. They don't say hi. They don't take too many walks, they don't walk their dog, they stay in their house. They are stand off. So the neighborhood is friendly, but I don't know about them.
- [49:36]
Shannon Sharpe
She said something very interesting. Go ahead, go ahead, ma'am.
- [49:40]
Brittany Jenkins
I would just want to say we participate in community events and you know, for the most part the neighborhood is friendly. She posted videos after this happened and the neighbors brought it to us because they picked two and two together. So that's how we even found out that they knew about it.
- [49:59]
Shannon Sharpe
She mentioned to you as you was walking up, you have to see her point of view. She's walking her kids. It's late at night. If you're that afraid, why you out at night walking your kids? If you as afraid as you say you are. Did that cross your mind like. Well, if you say you're afraid, why you out here in the dark by yourself? You're married, your husband's not with you and you got a small child. So it can't be that dangerous. You can't be that fearful of your life. If you choose at night to walk a child.
- [50:31]
Demichael Jenkins
It's 6:00 in the evening, it gets dark early. But yeah, we thought about that.
- [50:37]
Brittany Jenkins
Of course I wouldn't be outside walking with. No, no, not at all. Especially if you, you know, have been through things or whatever. Like I'm not walking at night, period.
- [50:50]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's crazy.
- [50:51]
Brittany Jenkins
It's as simple as that. And as soon as someone tell me that's their house, all bets are off. Okay. You know, if you scared, then you walk, walk home. That's it.
- [50:59]
Shannon Sharpe
I, I don't know. I guess I just look at things differently. I've really never walked by somebody house. Oh, you live here or. Definitely. I'm not standing on somebody's porch and asking this, is this their home? If they drive Up. I'm in the neighborhood, I see somebody in the driveway or somebody on the porch, I throw my hand up, up. I keep it moving. I'm not going to stand on someone's porch and ask them if they live here. That's none of my concern. That's just me. Maybe, maybe, maybe I'm. Maybe I don't think I'm unique in that, guys.
- [51:29]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, we ain't nosy.
- [51:30]
Demichael Jenkins
That's privy.
- [51:30]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ain't nosy like that though. We know you know, we ain't nosy like that. Man, we see somebody, man, we turned up the deuce. We say hello and we keep it moving. The first thing we say, we see a night house. Boy, that thing that nice, ain't it?
- [51:42]
Shannon Sharpe
Right?
- [51:42]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And we keep it moving. It ain't our business.
- [51:47]
Shannon Sharpe
You mentioned that you have a 17 year old son and as black, we have to have that conversation with our black young men. Is that we always, it's always yes sir, no sir, it's yes ma'am, no ma'am. When you pull, get pulled over. Look, hey, just be as polite as you possibly can because your job is to get that man or that woman to your car, back to their car and on their way as quick as you possibly can. It's not about, you know, all this and all, all that. We'll fight it in court, whatever it is. If they said I was speeding, if I was improper lane change, I don't have a tail light or what, erratic driving. Let's go to court. We could argue it in front of a judge, in front of 12 people. I, I, I can't argue. I got to have you make it home. Have you had to have that talk with him? Have you had it already or did you have to have that talk with him immediately after this incident?
- [52:37]
Brittany Jenkins
Absolutely, absolutely. It was emotional and it was multiple talks. It was multiple talks. And even with days where it's like, you know what, I don't know if you should go outside and walk our dog. Let me see. Make sure you go out before it gets dark. It's a lot of weight. It's a lot of weight.
- [52:58]
Shannon Sharpe
You've received a lot of overwhelming support from social media though. I mean everybody's been on your side. The social media has come to your defense and like the way you handle it. And you mentioned your situation, having made some decisions decision in your previous when you were younger and you learned and you said, look, I gotta channel this. I'm not gonna give them the ability to say I'm angry and I have every Right to be angry because I'm in debt, I'm in the right here. But nobody cares about that because all they're going to look is you as a black man. Look at your history and bring that into the equation when it had nothing to do with this woman standing on your porch.
- [53:41]
Brittany Jenkins
Exactly.
- [53:41]
Shannon Sharpe
If you could. Yeah, people, people are going to watch this. This is going to get picked up. If you could say if. What would you want people to know about you, your family and how you handled this situation?
- [53:54]
Demichael Jenkins
I'm a black man in America that's overcame every obstacle that could be thrown at you. Growing up, making bad decisions, being around the wrong people and being given a second chance to transition, raising a family, being married, my 17 year old, I've been there since he was six months. This is, this is, this is my, it's my son, but he's not my biological. I've raised him as, he's my son. I have an 8 year old as well up. I'm here to inspire people to show people that. Control your emotion. Control your emotion. That's a, that's, that's, that's, that's one of the most powerful things that a man can do because a dangerous man is a man that can't control his emotion. So a situation like this that's broadcasted across the world, you can see that I was given every single reason to act and I still control my emotions. So I want to use this moment, these platforms to inspire people, lead people and to show them what a real man is and what a real man is supposed to do. You take care of your family, protect your family, control your emotions and that's what we're here to do. And also build communities. I want to build houses from the ground up. I want to build communities. I want to design high end luxury homes. These are things that I want to do that I got a passion for, that. It's in my bloodline. Custom home builds. My grandpa was a custom home designer and builder. These are things that I want to take to the next level and be known for and show people that in the real estate industry that we can strive, we can survive and we can do what they do and even better. So that's what I'm here for.
- [56:07]
Shannon Sharpe
Do you have a sense or when or if you'll ever get your normalcy back because your life has been interrupted? You didn't ask for this, but as you mentioned before, God don't put on any more of this than what we can handle. He chose you. He chose you for A reason. And the way you handled yourself in that situation, I'm not so sure. A lot of us. Because she went out of her way. She had no business on your porch to begin with. You if she didn't think you lived there. She could ask that question from the street. You don't bring your tail on someone else's front porch and then ask them. That's not your place. I can see if you were at her house and you're asking for direction, you're like, are you lost? Do you need help? She's on your property. Did you think about pressing charges for trespassing?
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Demichael Jenkins
We did, and they threw it under the rug. They filed a police report. That wasn't nothing that we told them. We asked for the police report. They never gave it to us. We had to track them down and get the police report and looked at it. It was vague. We thought about pressing charges. We did all that. I thought she gave me every right. She's on my property. That's self defense. I could have gunned him down, but I had to hold my composure as a man for my family. Because even though it was self defense, it could have been self defense. Not for a black man, not for us.
- [57:32]
Shannon Sharpe
Wow, Michael, thank you for sharing your story with us. We really appreciate it. You handle that thing very well. To your wife. What's your name, man? Brittany. You and the Michael handled it very, very well. I'm not so sure very many people would have handled it with the class and with the poise that you did. You did everything right. And even though you did everything right, it seems like everything has gone wrong. She was wrong for coming onto your property. The authorities seem to be wrong for how they've handled this situation. Hopefully you get the clarity, you get the judgment, the respect that you deserve in this situation because you did everything right. Right? And seemingly, as of right now, things have gone wrong. Hopefully the nightcap family, everybody that's in this chat, we're praying for you, that you get your sense of peace, you get your sense of normalcy, and you get everything that you deserve back tfold. Because just talking to you, you're a good man, Brittany. You're a good woman. Y'all are great family.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
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Shannon Sharpe
And you're doing the right thing. So I tip my hat to you for the way you handled this situation and continue to be blessed. God's going to continue to bless you because you're a good man and you do great things for the community. And I want to thank you. Ocho and I nightcap family want to thank you for sharing your story with us. We greatly, greatly appreciate it. This is going to go out and you're going to get an outpouring of support.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes sir.
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Shannon Sharpe
And it still wouldn't be enough for what you guys went through. But I thank you for sharing your story here with us on Nightcap. Continue to be blessed, continue success and we'll talk to you soon down the road.
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Demichael Jenkins
Appreciate it.
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Shannon Sharpe
Thank you guys.
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Demichael Jenkins
Have a good one.
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Brittany Jenkins
All right. Thank you.
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Shannon Sharpe
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
And when I was approached about, you know, would you like to have this couple on? I said, absolutely. And I just told him, I said, look, we're coming on late, we're coming on after the game. And so they're being the second block. And they said, we don't care. We want to share this story. We want to share it on your platform. And so this is what we try to do. I mean, yeah, we're a sports show, but we talk about sports, we talk about culture, we talk about finance. All we try to do do is she had positive light. Some things are not positive, but we want to show, we want to show our community that good can come out of a situation like this. And the way he handled it, like I said, Ocho, I don't know that very many people you standing on my front porch asking me do I live here. I don't know who does, but I just know you don't.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, you know what, A lot of times you have to think about it, especially when it comes to home, when it comes to safety in someone's property, most of the time they meet fire with fire.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They're not really that well, that well trained or versed in de escalating situations. Like also, another problem that most of us have is we love challenging authority because we know our rights. You know, instead of having the mindset. Well, I, I tell my kids all the time, you had the mindset, you want to go home.
- [63:40]
Demichael Jenkins
Home.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, exactly.
- [63:42]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Your end goal, whether you know all your rights, where you know everything. I. I don't care. You want to go home at the end of the day, that's it, you know, But I think if we get to a point where we understand that even though we know our rights, we know everything and try to do everything by the book, at the end of the day, you want to get home to your family. Black man, white man, black kid. I mean, whatever. Whatever it may be, Learn to de. Escalate situations. You don't always have to challenge authority because you. You. You want to show you smart. And you know this, you know that at the end of the day, it doesn't matter. I just want to get home to my kids, and I'm gonna go home to my family. That's it.
- [64:25]
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho, sometimes you can be in the right and not be right. Yeah, he was in the right.
- [64:33]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [64:33]
Shannon Sharpe
But he knows how this was going to play out. I don't believe he really. And I. I meant to ask him this, and she said she shared it with a. With the. With the. Her Facebook community. Had she not. Had the lady not got on there and started lying and try to make it seem like she was the victim. They just wanted this to go away. They wanted to go back to their normal life.
- [64:55]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right?
- [64:56]
Shannon Sharpe
She interrupted that. She interrupted their peace. And not for a good reason. They said she lives two streets to the north. They're in the back to the south, so you gotta go out of your way. What it was, Ocho, that big house. I know ain't no black man pulling up to this house. Why you care? You ain't gotta pay one bill, not water, not gas, not light, not phone, not property tax or nothing. Why you care? Care me. A part of. A part of me. O. A part of me. I understand that his normalcy and his peace and his safety has been impacted, but I kind of don't want him to move. I think that's kind of what they want him to do because he. They mentioned that they might be one onone in that neighborhood, and they got the biggest lot in that neighborhood, and they kind of want him out. No, I ain't going nowhere. Y'all leave. I ain't going nowhere. This is mine. I bought this. And then they said they've been getting a run around from the authorities and hoa. I don't know what hoa do anyway. They full of Cara. They don't do nothing. Yeah, that's just another way to. That's just another way to get 150, 200, 300amonth.
- [66:13]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [66:13]
Shannon Sharpe
To do what? Hell, I can cut the grass myself at the front of the entrance. The hell y'all talking. The hell y'all talking about? Y'all taking up 300amonth from everybody. And what. What y'all doing with that money light stay out for two, three weeks, huh? Man, But I am. I'm so glad that we able to get Brittany and Demichel on. He goes by Mikey. I'm glad we were able to get that family on Nightcap. This is what we try to do. Ocho and I, we try to bring, you know, we try to. Whether it's stories like this or whether it's an athlete or whatever the case may be, we just try to give you the best show that we possibly can on a given night. And this was supposed to be a very routine night. Talk about the national championship game. There's some other sports stories that's circulating. But when the opportunity. And it just goes to show you, Ocho, because the person reached out to me and is like, hey, hey, I want to ask you something. I was like, yeah, what's up? She's like, would you like to have the couple on that you and Ocho talked about? They was like, they saw your story. I was like, really? They was like, yeah. And they want to share it with you.
- [67:24]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [67:25]
Shannon Sharpe
I call Ash. I said, ash, guess what? She's like, what? I said. Cause she always ask what I said. You know, the couple we were talking about in that video last night, they want to come on and share the story.
- [67:40]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [67:40]
Shannon Sharpe
She's like, really? I was like, yeah. And, you know, Ocho, like I said, we're on the east coast. It's going to be late. They're in Ohio. Hey, there's, like, it doesn't matter. We want to come home.
- [67:53]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [67:54]
Shannon Sharpe
And then we have it.
- [67:55]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So listen, I'm gonna say, man, listen, the story is inspiring. What you. We all also have to understand is situations like this have been going on for a very long time. Situation. Situations like this, this are going to continue to happen. So they're telling their story and also firing people and understanding his. His background and his history and how far he's come and being able to transition and getting a second chance, but most of us aren't afforded. Can also prevent those that might get that. That one chance where it's in a situation where, you know, everybody ain't getting no second chance. Yeah, everybody ain't getting no second chance. So being able to diffuse situation, to deescalate situations and have your right state of mind you know, in place when stuff like this happens. You know, maybe not to this magnitude, but in another scenario, you got to be on point. You got to be on point at all times. So they gonna test you now.
- [68:52]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, but I took a lot of. A lot of from that because like he said, he could have reacted in such a way that wasn't been wouldn't been beneficial to his family, and it definitely would have been beneficial to the woman that invaded his privacy and his space. But I'm glad he handled his decision situation the way he handled it. So thank you Mikey and Britney for sharing your story with us on Nightcap, and we wish you the best down the line.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The volume.
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Shannon Sharpe
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
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Shannon Sharpe
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Shannon Sharpe
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Shannon Sharpe
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