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Bobby Bones
Hey, it's Bobby from the Bobby Bones Show. I had an incredible time at this year's iHeartRadio music festival and even got the chance to hang out with Diplo and Bailey Zimmerman while I was there. How did Ashes come together? Diplo?
Diplo
I pulled up real quick. He was about to leave on tour. You're about to jump in your tour bus and we had like three hours.
Bailey Zimmerman
It was really cool. He really just like randomly showed up to my house. I'm like, oh hey Diplo, what are you doing? He's like, I have a song that I want to show you. And I was like, okay.
Bobby Bones
You can listen to the full episode out now, wherever you get your podcast. And big shout out to my friends at Hyundai for making this possible. Had a blast cruising around festival weekend in the all new Palisade Hybrid this October.
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Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Easily.
Shannon Sharpe
It wasn't a whole lot of defense played. If you love offense, Ho Cho, this was your game.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Absolutely.
Shannon Sharpe
Seven combined passing touchdowns, over 400 yards for both teams, almost 500 for the Bengals as they win a close ball game 33:31 over division rival Pittsburgh Steelers. Y' all know who I am and I want to first thank you for joining us. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite uncle Shannon Sharpe. There is my partner and co host who saw the first half of the game and Cincinnati, but he got back in time because he wanted to glope. And here he is, Bengals Ring of Fame artery, Pro Bowler All Pro. He's Chad Ochociko Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button as my shirt would indicate. Please make sure you hit the like button and do us a favor, go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. I would personally like to thank each and every one of you for your support and your continued support. Because thanks to you. Hey, the Signal Awards. We won four. We won four awards. That's all because of you. Two for Club Shay Shay, two for Nightcap. And I can't thank you enough. Ocho would like to thank you as well, because guess what? Because of you, Ocho and I, Uncle Nocho, there ain't nobody seeing us right now. And we plan to continue that.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Come on.
Shannon Sharpe
Thanks to you.
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Tell them again.
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Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Whoo.
Shannon Sharpe
Joe Flacco was 31, 47, 342, three touchdowns, no sacks. They ran the ball 23 times for a buck 42. Jamar Chase 16 catches, a buck 61 in the touchdown. Higgins 6 for 96 and a touchdown. Noah Found, had 4 for 44 and a touchdown. There wasn't a whole lot of defense being played, but here we go, Ocho the Bingles beat the Steelers and 33, 31 and what many call the icy hot bowl. This was not the UNC bowl. This was the uncles uncles. No, no, no, no, they can't. They ain't no they uncles. That's what uncle. So Ocho watching this game, I mean look, Steelers jumped out to a 10 nothing lead like damn Bengals. And then all of a sudden starting the fourth quarter, the Bengals have a 10. Have a 10 point. Had a 10 point lead. And then the Bengals have a 10 point lead to start the fourth quarter. And the next thing you know, the Steelers go down the field. Rogers hit Friarmouth, he takes off and they have a one point lead. But if you're a Steelers fan, based on what you had seen up until that point, you could not have felt comfortable with the way your defense was playing. Every defensive back from the Steelers, Chase gave it to everybody. He gave it to Rams in the first half. He said, you know what I think? Slay importer feeling left out. I'm gonna make sure y' all ass get it the second half. So. So don't nobody feel like, oh, he was picking on. Pick on somebody your size, right? I picked on everybody and gave it to everybody. And Teegan said, hold on. Did they forget about me? Hey, give me that shot down. Give me that rail shot. Let me end this thing. And he did something smart. He said, no, I could score, I could split it. But now let me go on down. Cause I don't want y' all to get a chance to do nothing crazy. Cause I know Aaron Rodgers, known to throw a Hail Mary here or there. But you won't get a chance to ojo watching this game. What did you like about what you saw from your Bengals tonight?
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Well, first off, we know what Flacco did. We know what Chase did. We know what Tegan did. But I want to give credit to the officer line. I want to give credit to the officer line. I want to give credit to Zach Taylor not worrying about all the noise on the outside. Oh, he needs to be fired. Oh, it's the play calling. It wasn't none of that. That was never the problem. Winning games like this against a division opponent, it starts up front. The offensive line played extremely well tonight. They kept Flacco clean for most of the game. Obviously, T.J. watt and Hayward got a sack towards the end. I don't want to call it garbage time because it was very important that we're able to get down the field. But outside of that, they kept Flacco clean all goddamn day. That goddamn third down. And they ran the goddamn read option with Joe Flacco.
Shannon Sharpe
They never expected it Read optima Joe.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Flacco, who does that with a quarterback that's not a dual threat? Beautiful play call.
Shannon Sharpe
That's why it worked, because you're not expecting it at all.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
At all. Beautiful play. Goal. Obviously, the Steelers, they didn't really, really play good defense. They had some. Some blown assignments on defense. Allowed Chase to. Chase to get off on that shallow.
Shannon Sharpe
Cross late in the ball game. Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
That man got 15 catches. How the hell you let him get free for 16 on the shallow cross and ain't nobody guarding it?
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
And there was confusion. There was a Confusion at the second level. Once the motion went. Once the motion went. Patrick Queen, they was confused on who's. Who was supposed to pick up who. And obviously Chase. Chase freed up.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, I'm picking up. I'm picking up Chase. If somebody else get the ball, I'm good with that. I can live with that. Ocho, I'm picking up Chase, man. That ain't your guy. Don't worry about it. He got 15 catches. I'm just trying to make sure you don't get 16.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
But listen, man, it's amazing, right? It's amazing what happens when you get a quarterback with a veteran presence that's used to wheeling and dealing, and you put him in a situation. You put him in an atmosphere with two elite receivers like that. A good quarterback, a good number three, a nice tight end. You saw Noah fan, got integrated into the offense a little bit more tonight. Yeah, it looked great. It looked great. This is one of the best games. And it got so good to the point I didn't even care who won the game. I didn't even care who won the game because it was so exciting. On both sides of the. On both sides of the ball, you know, not really much defense, but Aaron Rodgers was dealing.
Shannon Sharpe
He was.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Joe Flacco was dealing.
Shannon Sharpe
One bad play. He had one bad play. The DB made an excellent play on. On DK Metcalf. Pull that ball out.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, the interception.
Shannon Sharpe
That's not on Rogers.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Oh, yeah, it definitely was. That. That was good. Hey, TJ Turn. Hey, DJ Turner, huh?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, he.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
He's quarterback number one. He's quarterback number one. I don't know what happened. I don't know why Cam Taylor, Britt, with a. With a. With a healthy scratch tonight, I wasn't sure, but after watching tonight, how they played, the DBs played, especially DJ Turner. Boy, I salute you. Boy, I salute you. Cause you showed, Joe, you know what? Tonight. But that goddamn offensive line, that officer line, needs all the credit for the night. Cause we already know what Chase could do. We already know what T. Higgin could do. We know what Chase Brown could do. That we were able to establish the run before tonight's game. Chase Brown was averaging two yards a carry, huh?
Shannon Sharpe
Two.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Two yards a carry. He finished, what, 106. I think maybe he had 100 something.
Shannon Sharpe
108 on 11 carries.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Man, that's beautiful. Anytime you can run the ball like that, it makes everything else you want to do easy. It opens up the playbook, man. It was a beautiful thing. And the fact that we, as a Team. Now we can compete. Why can we compete? Because we got a quarterback. A quarterback that's only been here for 24 hours. 24 hours. And I heard. I heard some. Some of this. Some of the stuff they gave. They gave me. He had 30 plays. They gave him 30 plays last week. That's all he had on his plate, was 30 plays. And obviously, playing in the Green Bay game, it's only so much you could do. But he looked good in that second half. When I saw that. When I saw that drive in the second half, I'm like, wait a minute. I think we gonna be all right. And tonight, I surely. They added more to his plate. And this is what you get. This is what you get. So next week, I'm not sure who we playing. We're gonna look even better offensively. Defense, just meet us halfway. Meet us halfway. And by the time December gets here, showing that we can compete regardless of who we playing, because the offense is now back, because we have a competent quarterback that can make all the throws, we gonna be all right.
Shannon Sharpe
You got the Jets.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
I'm happy.
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho, now you understand why Tomlin made those comments. Oh.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Oh.
Shannon Sharpe
Now you understand. He says you have a quarterback that was good enough to be your opening day starter.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
You trade him to a team that needs a quarterback.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
Either Andrew Barry is smarter than either of us, but yeah.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, most definitely. Most definitely. And the funny thing about it is, Tom understood, is you take a quarterback like Joe Flacco that's been in different situations, different offenses, and you put him in an offense with that kind of talent.
Shannon Sharpe
Yep.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
With the kind of talent that can raise your level of play. Flacco ain't got to do much. He's not on a team where he has to raise his level of play because the lack of talent around him. It's the opposite way.
Shannon Sharpe
When you come here, they're gonna lift him.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Opposite way.
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho, the thing is, you say he gave him 30 plays. He don't need but two plays. If Chase is one on one, throw it to him. They got chased. Double throw it to T. Higgins. It's not really that complicated. And he dropped. He dropped one. He had a shallow cross against Queen. And you see. Oh, my God, that was the easiest pass you. The play that you made tonight, and you dropped that one. So he probably should have 17 to 18. Yeah. I'm gonna start calling Chase Mr. Thursday night, because we know what he does on Thursday night. You know, last year he had left for 260, 464, three touchdowns.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Three TDS, a matter of fact, in the first half. This I know. And we talked about it, too. Where I talked about how Carson and I had that. That. That sense of if we see a certain play, he. He had checking and change it, man. Watch Flaco when goddamn Chase did that in the first half.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Flo saw the coverage. He tapped it. He tapped his helmet, checked out of the run, and they must have knew what it was. He threw it right to Chase. Threw it right to him. I said, no, we. We gonna be all right. I have one thing I want to say, too, also with that, for all the Bengals fans that are probably watching tonight in the chat, this is why. This is why, despite some of the things you. You were saying is, it's not about Zach Taylor. It's not about the play calling. It's all about those that are on the field executing the plays that are called. And when you have a quarterback, this is why they're paid the big bucks.
Shannon Sharpe
Yep.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Have a quarterback. Anything is possible. Anything is possible. I know one thing. They better not let Flack out that goddamn room. I don't care. Even when Joe Burrow come back, do not let number 16 get out that goddamn room. That is our backup from now on.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah, for sure. For sure. That's why they went and got him. They got a guy have a big time arm. He can throw. He can make throws. He understands. Look, he doesn't have mobility, so you got to protect him. You got to do a better job of protecting because he has limited mobility now, especially from the pocket. Now, you saw him run that. That naked on the zone. Read the naked. I'm not. Hey, ain't nobody. I mean, Highsmith crashed down because I'm not anticipating him pulling the ball. That's Joe tackle.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Absolutely.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Fields or Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen. Yeah, I'm gonna be Justin Herbert. Yeah, I'll be a little nervous. Joe Flacco. Yeah. Hell, no. They ain't gonna never. Damn, they did it.
Bobby Bones
Hey, it's Bobby from the Bobby Bones Show. I had an incredible time at this year's iHeartRadio music festival and even got the chance to hang out with Diplo and Bailey Zimmerman while I was there. Check this out. So how did Ashes come together, Diplo?
Diplo
Well, I kind of briefly met Bailey, I think at Morgan's show. One of them. And I think he's just the guy in Nashville. He's cool as hell, and I had a new kind of sound I wanted to do, and I think he's the one guy that could carry it. And I came to his house. I had a show. I pulled up real quick. He was about to leave on tour. You're about to jump in your tour bus and we had like three hours play the record for him. We kind of like got a scratch and then he handled on his own on the road.
Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah, it was really cool. He really just like randomly showed up to my house. I'm like, oh hey Diplo, what are you doing? He's like, I have a song that I want to show you. And I was like, okay. And then now we're here playing it live.
Bobby Bones
You can listen to the full episode out now, wherever you get your podcast. And big shout out to my friends at Hyundai for making this possible. Had a blast cruising around festival weekend in the all new Palisade Hybrid Big.
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Shannon Sharpe
Steelers dbs. Just go ahead and chalk this up. Don't watch it. Yeah, don't. Don't watch it. Don't worry about it. Don't even worry about it. Cause he gave it to everybody. Yeah, everybody. And it wasn't close. It wasn't like there was some. Some. Some throws like that. He threaded the needle, and you guys were right there. Y' all wasn't close. No, y' all wasn't close.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Not at all.
Shannon Sharpe
And just go ahead and chalk this one up. Hey, hey. It happens. But for him, for. For. For Chase, for them. I've never seen somebody hunt the number one DB like they hunted tonight.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, most definitely. Most definitely.
Shannon Sharpe
You. I don't. You're not even with. Even with. With Satan or the top corners. You're not supposed to hunt like that.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, well, actually, I wouldn't even call it hunting. I would say most of the time, during our time. During our time, when you had a great db, most of the time, the quarterback, for some reason, they would never go his way.
Shannon Sharpe
No. Hell, no. You ain't taking that chance.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
You don't even challenge him.
Shannon Sharpe
No.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
For some reason, and I'm telling you based on experience, is when we're playing against top corners, you know, the offense, it goes away from that individual, and it almost. It almost make you upset. It almost make you upset. But tonight, boy, Flacco didn't care. He didn't care.
Shannon Sharpe
He did not care. He did not care. I mean, he gave it to it. Look, Ram had a. Had an off night.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Slay. They put slay on him. Slay. They slayed. You take him in the second half. So they couldn't do anything with him. Junior. Joy Porter, Jr. You have to learn how to play better without his hands. Yeah, he too touchy feeling. He get a lot. He get a lot of PIs calls.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, he get.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, he gonna get a lot of PIs. And you. You get. You're gonna have to learn to do a better job. Locate the ball, let the guy go. He got two PIs. He got one on T. Higgins. He got one on Chase. Yeah, and he's looking like, man, what, bro, you can't tug the guy's jersey because the back judge is standing right there. He can see it. And you doing it in the middle of the field.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, you can see all of that as a defensive back, obviously, you know, playing against a T. Higgins, playing against the Jamar Chase, some of the stuff that you're able to get away with because of your skill set with, with lesser caliber receivers, it'll work. But when you play against your elite receivers, nah, your whole game plan have to change your whole game plan in the way you. The way you play them, it has to change. It just has to.
Shannon Sharpe
The thing is, Ocho, like when you play a great receiver, what you normally would get away with with a lesser receiver, like not holding, that clutching and grabbing, they're gonna call it every time because. Because normally Chase is probably already going to the officials now, you know, they can't guard me one on one, right. So they're going to play a little extra attention. He's. He's so good in space. You can put him outside the numbers. You can put him in the slot, you can put him in motion. He's tremendous. Run after the catch. He's not that big, but he runs behind his pads. So when you run behind your pads, you've got to tackle him. He's not gonna go down with arm tackles or he's not afraid of contact. So he'll run through contact. He reminds he runs a lot because his size, that he's not as big as my brother, but he runs like my brother. He runs like Anquan Bolden. He runs like Tio. Now they were bigger receivers. Tio is a much bigger receiver. You know, if you see how they run, they run like when they get the ball ultra. It's almost like they're running back.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Matter of fact, you know what? You know who's a great comparison of Jamar Chase when he has a ball in his hands, as far as running behind his path, that damn Steve Smith who refused to go down. Yeah, the exact same way. Exact same. They're very strong. And because he has that. That running back pedigree that he played when he was younger. Yeah, he's so good with run out the catch. Same for Steve Smith. They played angry with the ball. They ran angry with the ball. And that was a hell of a game tonight. That was a hell of a game.
Shannon Sharpe
It was a great game. Both teams have to look the defenses. Neither defense came to play outside of that outside Ocho. Outside of that one sack, I didn't even know. I thought T.J. watt was hurt.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah. Oh, obviously he had. Listen, Mim did a hell of a job and he had help. Noah Fant with the chips. Chase Brown with some of the chips. No, before they went out, before they went out in the past coverage. So they did help him a Little bit. But in that fourth quarter where T.J. wat and Hayward were able to get that second flacco, it was one on one. It was one on one. So that's why he did, he had help. But outside of that, they kept Flacco clean all goddamn game, man.
Shannon Sharpe
But you allowed to make other plays other than sacks. He had one, he had, he had a tackle.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
His imprint has got to be on his game. You know, if you, first of all, a non mobile quarterback, if you don't disrupt this timing, he'll pick you apart. That's the same things will happen with Cousins. If you don't, if you don't put pressure on Cousins, what will happen? We've seen him throw for 400. We've seen him throw for 500 yards.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
If you do, if you don't disrupt a mobile, a statue, a prototypical drop back quarterback. And that's what Flacco is. He's a prototypical 80s, 70s old school drop back quarterback. Ocho. Yeah, he wants to drop back. He wants. When his back foot hit, he's going to let it go. He wants to let it go. He's not a guy that wants to try to buy time and wait for guys to get open. That's not what he's good at.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
He's a guy. 1, 2, 3. Ball's gone. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Ball's gone. Now most guys don't do a seven step drop because most guys are in the shotgun. So they'll take a, they'll take a three and a hitch and throw the ball or four or five and a hit and throw the ball.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
But.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm not surprised that Cincinnati's defense played like this because I don't think Cincinnati's defense is very good, especially since their best pass rusher Hendrickson was out tonight. That being said, Steelers, I thought the Steelers were better than this. I think they have the second most sacks coming into the game. I think they were 10 behind the Broncos. The Broncos had 30. I think the Steelers had 20. Yeah, they got two sacks and outside of those sacks, Flacco really didn't get pressure. If you don't get pressure on a drop back quarterback with those weapons at his, disposable at his disposal.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
What do you think is going to happen? I just, I just want to know. What do you think is going to happen? Yeah, you got the best receiver in the game and you got a guy that if you don't disrupt him, he can pick you apart. Well, that's what happened. And then to exacerbate it. Ocho, you couldn't stop the run, so now you're at the mercy. You can't stop the run. They run it at will. I mean, Jalen Warren had what Jayla Warren had. Excuse me, Chris Brown, 11 carries for a buck weight. Chase P. Ryan had 7 for 31. What if you can't stop it? And Flacco had 31 of 47, 342, three tubs, no turnovers. That was the difference in the ball game. I thought the Steelers. Look, I thought the Steelers would maybe go and give a death blow. They had it 4th and 1. Oo. They jumped outside trying to do the tush push. They got the. Hey, it's funny how y' all see the Steelers move, but y' all never see the damn Eagles move. Set a four field goal, next thing you know, they come down the field, they get a touchdown, and now they've gotten life. Oo you look at. Oo. What did you make of Aaron Rogers going off on Jaylen Warren, who ran a flea flicker by accident? Lip readers think Aaron Rogers shouted at him. What are you doing? It wasn't a flea flicker.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah. Hey, he has to do that. He has to hold the players accountable. What, you lost your ear thing?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
I say, listen, hey, Aaron has to hold the players accountable. Aaron Rodgers understands that every play counts. He has a standard that he has to abide by. He understands everything has to be right. Because we're in a close game. We need every play. Every play has to count. You can't make that mistake. You can't. You can't. And I'm not saying that that mistake cost him the game, but that's the play that they would have needed.
Shannon Sharpe
I said Chris Brown. I meant Chase Brown.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Chase Brown.
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho, here's the thing, Ocho. When you're in a game like this, every play matters because. Okay, our defense is not customary tonight.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Right?
Shannon Sharpe
They're not getting off the field. They're not getting three and outs. They're driving the ball. They're getting points on these possessions. So every play becomes magnified. And so you can't. A mishap like that. I'm trying to figure out what made him think it was a flea flicker. Now, I don't. That's. That's seemingly what it. That's what, you know, lip readers think he was uttering, right? But I'm like. Of all the things you could run. I've heard people, okay, I run the wrong route, Ocho. I ran. I went the wrong way right but damn, a flea flicker with no flea flicker was called.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
And listen, little miscommunication. It happens the same way on defense. Both teams had had busts in the defensive coverages. The Bengals had one. Hell, the Steelers had one. And just listen, those plays make a difference. And it's only one, two, maybe three plays in an entire game that changed the trajectory of the play. And the team that makes the fewest mistakes normally wins. And it just happened to be us tonight.
Shannon Sharpe
True.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Who they. Who they think they're gonna be?
Shannon Sharpe
You got. Like I said, offensively, you guys are going to be able to put pressure on people. If you jump out to a lead now you can play. Like I said, I don't think your back end is very good, Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Whoa.
Shannon Sharpe
They made some big time plays. They made plays tonight. Yeah, the guy made a heck of a play. The one he took out of DK hands.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah. D. His name is DJ Turner. Say it. Say it with me. DJ Turner.
Shannon Sharpe
DJ Turner.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
That being said, if you go look at the first interception, it was like, I don't know if Roger was trying to throw the 7 route and he overshot the 7 route or he missed the DK on the go route.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Cause it was like in between, you know what I'm saying? Like the 7 ran the angle and DK, but the ball was inside. Yeah. So I don't. I don't know. Maybe. Maybe the ball got away from Aaron. But this was like offensive if. If you like offensive football. Ocho, this was your game tonight.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Beautiful game.
Shannon Sharpe
This was. This was your game tonight. I mean, seven combined touchdowns. Almost. Almost 600 yards of passing. Yards. Only two sacks. But the two turnovers, like I said, one of them, Rogers, it was a bad throw. The other one, you know, the guy made a heck of a play. Aaron Rodgers passed Big Ben Roethlisberger for six most passing yards in NFL history. Is this just regular season? Is this regular season and postseason? Okay, Tom Brady's at the top at 89, 2 14. Drew Brook. Drew Brees is next. 80,000. 3. 58. Peyton Manning is third. 71,009, 40. Brett Favre is fourth. 71,008. 38. And Aaron Rodgers now is fifth all time with 64,089 yards with 11. What? Yeah. 11 games to play.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Dang.
Shannon Sharpe
So there's a good chance that he's going to probably go. Could. Could he get 66, 67,000? That's a possibility.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Could he throw for three? I don't know if he's going to throw for like that because, I mean, he 23 of 34 for 249. So I think he'd probably be right there because I think he'd be a little about probably 66,500, 66,750, something like that. But how much longer does he want to play? Look, he's not catching Tom. He's not going to play long enough to catch Tom. He would have to play another. Another five years.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah. You know. You know, he's not retiring no time soon. He's in a perfect situation. He's in a perfect situation. And I'm not sure what would happen this year with them, but there's no reason why you would want to leave. You're in the perfect situation. Joe Flacco, I mean, Joe Flacco. Aaron Rodgers is in the perfect situation.
Shannon Sharpe
He is. It's a great situation. You got. You got a head coach that. That doesn't get in your way. I think he likes Arthur Smith. Arthur Smith gonna run the football. He's gonna give you a lot of different formation. He likes a lot of two tight end stuff with friarmouth and Johnu Smith, who. We had John Smith when he was in Tennessee. He did a great job as the OC for the Tennessee Titans. You know, you have dk. They might be in the market for another receiver. Austin was out tonight, Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
So they might be in the market for another receiver. You know, we keep hearing rumbling that our receivers might be available. We'll see that November 4th deadline.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Hey, can I say something real quick?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
And listen, I'm not. Not trying to bolster that. That Steelers offense, but if, if anything continues to happen or things don't go well with number. Number 11 over there now. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, you definitely would want to get him out of the nfc. I'm not saying they're going to trade him. Hey, but you definitely. You definitely. It ain't been no situation where you're going to trade him. And you. You try to get him out of the conference, you definitely not trade him to anybody in the division.
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Shannon Sharpe
And of all things, I'm gonna try to get him out of the conference. Now if somebody in the conference blows me away, Ocho, I ain't got no choice.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Right, right, right.
Shannon Sharpe
You know, I don't. I don't want to sell you. Look, it's like my neighbor Ocho, I don't want to sell you the car. Cause I don't want to come by and see my damn car every day at your driveway, even though it's your Car. You bought it. But if you make me an offer I can't refuse, I'll drive right by it every day.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, but I don't think they'll do that. But I'm just saying, making their offense better. Aaron Rodgers, D.K. metcalf, A.J. brown. I'm just throwing it out there. I'm just throwing it out there because they've already been talking about trades and where there's smoke, there's fire.
Shannon Sharpe
For sure.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Where there's smoke, there's fire. So the fact that it was even mentioned, if things don't turn around for the Philadelphia Eagles, even though they are winning, I think that's something that could happen.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Ocho, I'm going to tell you something else I think can happen. I think with Matthew Stafford, okay? You got Tom Brady at 1, Breeze at 2, Manning at 3, Favre at 4, Rogers is not 5. Big Ben is at 6, Philip Rivers at 7. Matt Ryan is at 8, Matthew Stafford is at 9. Dan retired. When he left, he had all the records, most passing yards, most attempts, most touchdowns. Matthew Stafford could be 6 by the end of the year. He's at 61,439. Big Ben has 64,088. I think there's a great chance when it's all said that he. What year is this for Matt Ryan?
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Matt Ryan.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm not Matt Ryan. Matt Stafford, Matthew Stafford, I don't think he can catch Brady, but I definitely think he can get the top. I think he can get the top. Year 17, I can see him playing another three years. The money's too good for him not to.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
And not. Not only is the money too good.
Shannon Sharpe
For him and he's healthy, he's in a great system. You got Sean McVeigh, you got Puka, you got Devonte, you got Higby. Kyron Williams can run the football, and.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
They, they, they throw the ball like crazy over there, too. Yeah, throw the ball like crazy over there. Especially with Puka and Devonte, the way they're playing right now. He can definitely get it. And he, he's not. He's not.
Shannon Sharpe
I definitely, I definitely think he's at 61, 000. I think he's going to have to stay healthy, play another three years, but I definitely think he can get in the top five.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, absolutely.
Shannon Sharpe
I definitely think he get in the top five because he's gonna be 64,000 by the end of the year, which will put him in sixth place. Now, I don't think he's gonna throw for enough yards to Pass Rogers because Rogers at 64,000. So I'm gonna put tackle another 2500 to 2800 for, for Rogers, which will put him at 66,000.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
So he's not going to catch him this year, but when it's all said and done, could I see him getting top five? Yes.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Hey, hey, hey. I'm so happy inside.
Shannon Sharpe
I, like, I want to, I can tell you happy.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Listen, I, I, I don't want to talk too loud. I don't want to scream too loud. I'm trying to keep it, you know, my voice a little low because I'm in the hotel ob. I don't want to, you know, have security knocking on my door. But we have a great chance. We have a great chance offensively now. Defense, we don't need to be top five. I say this all the time, please find a way to meet us halfway. Find a way to meet us halfway. Be maybe 16 or 15 or rank 17 somewhere, somewhere around there and allow the offense to cook, allow us to put up points. We score 30 tonight. If we can get back where we're going. 30, 30 points a game. And defense, you just, just show up. Just give us something. Give us a stop here or a stop there. We will be okay.
Shannon Sharpe
On the broadcast tonight, Ocho, they said Joe Burrow is on track to return from turf toe in mid December. Question is, can Flacco keep the Bengals afloat until he returns? Okay. They get the jets at home. They get the Bears at home.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Then they're at the Steelers. Patriots at home at Ravens. At Bills. Ravens home at Dolphins.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Hey, we could, we, we go. We could run the gauntlet. We could run the gauntlet. The only, the only, the only game where it's going to be really good. I really can't tell you who's going to win when we play the Patriots, but the Patriots. Nice. Yeah, the Patriots are nice. They, they not.
Shannon Sharpe
The Bills will be tough for you guys in, in, in, in Buffalo. They'll be tough. Josh Allen.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, that's another one, obviously, game where we have to play the Steelers again. That's the question.
Shannon Sharpe
Is, Ocho, before you go any further, is Lamar going to be back when he played these games?
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Even if Lamar is back, the back end is horrible. The defense is horrible. So he's going to have to match us offensively.
Shannon Sharpe
And we've seen him do that last year, remember?
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, this, this is not, this is not last year. This is not last. This is a new year.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay? You see how you talking, Chad? Y' all see how you talking? Do y' all see how Ocho talking? You thinking real reckless. He get real reckless in here. Win one game.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
I'm being nice. I'm being nice.
Shannon Sharpe
So now you being nice.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah. This is one game. But look at how. Look at. Look at them in the.
Shannon Sharpe
You know, Chicago ain't gonna be no easy win now.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Well, Chicago can't do. Do nothing with us on D3.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, Chicago gonna be no easy win now.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Hold on. Stop. Hey, hold on. Stay right there. Stay. Stay with me real quick. Chicago's defense cannot do anything with us offensively. They can't do nothing with us. And I mean that with all due respect. Now, I like what Caleb Williams has done. I love the creativity of Ben.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, he owned the team, huh? And they got some nice receivers. They got D.J. moore. They got Roman Dunes. They got Burton.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, I know, I know, I know, I know. But. But let's slim it down a little bit. Hey, it's about. It's about who they nation right now.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, Jack. Boy, he. Boy, he. He on one tonight. Look at him.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Hey, we got the Jet. When we play the Jets.
Shannon Sharpe
When we play the Jets a week from Sunday the 26th.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, but we gonna. Listen, they just gonna be owing.
Shannon Sharpe
And y' all got. Guess what? Y' all got him at home. Y' all got. Y' all got three games in a row at home.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Matter of fact, I'm gonna come back. I'm coming back to that one because I think I was. I was a good luck charm tonight. I'm coming back next week.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, you the good luck charm, huh?
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
I was a good luck charm. I'm coming back next week.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, but they look, they got a very favorable schedule. Like you said, the Patriots is not going to be easy win. Lamar is supposed to be back. Well, he'll definitely be back. That's the 27th. That's a. That's a 5 20. So that got to be a Sunday game. That's a Sunday night game. 5:20.
Diplo
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yes, sir. Who they? Who they? Who they? Think they gonna beat them? Bangles. Who they?
Shannon Sharpe
Who they. Oh, Joe. Earlier today, Micah sounded off on how he's. How he's officiated and refs in general. Let's take a listen to what Micah had to say.
Micah Parsons
You know, five years is not gonna call you eventually start worrying about it, you know, but, you know, I think I just got to keep going. That's just. That's the hunt. Yeah, like, that's part of the challenges. Like, you just got to keep going. And that's bothersome. That that worries them. They know that, like, that's the part of being one of the best, you know, that comes with some territory where the parts that you hate and the parts that the league lets go. Like, they know, like, I mean, you could tell how they call the games. They don't call outsides for offense, but they'll call on defense. They'll. They won't call offensive pass interference, but they'll call defensive pass interference. I mean, like, we know what you're trying to do. They want to load the points up so fans can be happy. And, you know, I mean, they'll call defensive holding, but they won't call offensive holding. Like, let's just wake up. Like, it's just one of those things that we know what the higher ups is trying to do. Like, the ref would say, I know that's a hole, but what? Like, you're not gonna call it? Like, come on. Like, it's just one of those things that, like, I'm over it, and I'm just have to keep going, push through it.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Ocho, he knows.
Shannon Sharpe
He's like, you know what? I should stop. I shouldn't say anymore, but he can't help himself. Now chat. You tell me the great defensive player. The great defensive player. I don't. If you're my age.
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Diplo
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Bailey Zimmerman
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Shannon Sharpe
Let's just say you between between the ages of 60 and 25 tell me the great defensive player and we believe Michael Parsons is a great defensive player that you've heard them complain about being hell, the lts the Reggie Whites, the Bruce Smith, the the Derek Thomas, rest his soul, the Von Millers, the Aaron Donalds, the the J.J. watts. Tell me the great defensive player that you heard have a microphone and get up on the platform and complain that they're not getting calls.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, you can't do that. You can't do that as a player I mean, I'm thinking about. I'm thinking about myself as a receiver. I ain't complaining about no holding, because I'm getting hell. That's my fault. That's my plot. Micah Parsons is too good. He's too great at his position. He's too great at what he does. And obviously, on the. On the other thing. On the other. On the flip side of things, referees are graded. Those referees want to be able to call that super bowl. So the better.
Shannon Sharpe
Playoff. Super Bowl. Absolutely.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Listen, that's a check. That's money for them. So they want to make as many calls as possible based on what they can see with the naked eye. Do they miss some calls sometimes?
Shannon Sharpe
Of course.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
It's human error. It happens. But they want to grade as high as possible so they can be in those playoff games. So they can. So their team as a unit can be in the Super Bowl. They're graded so they're not just missing calls on purpose, but also as a player, a player of your magnitude. Now, you shouldn't worry about that. If you get in hell, that's on you.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't think I ever. I don't think I've ever. And I could be wrong, but. And my memory is pretty good. I think I can have great recall.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't think I've ever publicly complained. Man, they was holding all game, and they ain't call it, man. They've been holding me all year. I'm gonna play through that. You call it. You call it. That ain't my job. Because. To see if I'm. Because what's gonna happen. I'm all of a sudden start worried about the calls. They gonna throw the ball and go, beat me up. Hit me all in the chest, all upside the head. And then what? Then people gonna be like, was he holding on that one? Or did you. Or did you just drop it right? Don't complain, bro. Michael, you too good.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Way too good.
Shannon Sharpe
You way too good for this. And it's not so guess what now, Ocho, I'm gonna keep. Hey, I'm gonna keep my pocket sold in my pocket. Now, I ain't finna pull it out, right. You trying to put us on blast, Michael? You. You. Michael, you too good. If you want to be thought of as one of these greats, I mean, let's just take your error. Miles Garrett ain't calling, ain't complaining. T.J. watt ain't complaining. These guys ain't complaining. Michael, you're too good. Who cares about what they're doing with the Tush, push. You're not there. When you have to defend it, then you worry about that you don't have to defend it. They don't listen. They don't. First of all, they're not listening to players. First of all, you're not a quarterback. They listen to nothing you got to say. Yeah, they only listen to quarterbacks. That's why they changed the rules. That's why they let them have the balls. It used to. You get one day now to get the balls for the whole week. Now you can't hit the quarterback in the head. Now you can't hit the quarterback in the knees. You can't tackle them below the weights in the pocket. They listen to quarterbacks. They don't listen to other players because if they did, they wouldn't have the rules that they have that's weighted against the defense. Come on, Michael, man, you got to stop this, bro.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Right? And the funny thing about it is the game now in this era is changed. It's handicapped. It's handicapped for the. It's handicapped in the way. In favor of the offense.
Shannon Sharpe
Correct.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
You already know that. As deep as a player, just continue to play. Play through contact, play through the holes. Those calls are going to come. They're gonna. They're gonna come. Don't even. Don't even worry about it. Just continue to play as well as you always do.
Shannon Sharpe
That's it.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Play to what we know you can do. Being one of the best at your position, there's a reason why you paid as much as you are o. Joe.
Shannon Sharpe
What you do is that you have your coach, you have your video department cut it up, the holding calls, have your head coach to send it in.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
That's what you do.
Diplo
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, I would take it out of my hands, but have the video department. That's what everybody else does. I guarantee you. That's what the Steelers does. That's what the Cleveland Browns does. Anybody that has a pass rusher, this is what they do, okay? If I got a good. If I got a good receiver and I believe he's getting hell, I'll go to. I'll cut it up and I'll send it to the official. Here are the plays that we believe he was held in this game. These are the plays that we believe the guy got offside. These are the plays. That's what you do. But you. Because people go look at you. It's like you complaining, like, the reason why. Because now I think he got one sack, maybe two sack, and people like, oh, you making $47 million a year, and here we are six games in, and you got one sack, you got two sacks.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
It's going to look like you're complaining, and I don't think Michael is a complainer. I know he's frustrated because when you get that kind of big money, Ocho, you know you've gotten paid, the one thing you want to do, you want to go show the world why they paid you the big dollars. And I ain't tried. I ain't trying to, like, hey, the moment I get that money, oh, man. Oo got paid. Yeah. Let me go. Let me go on out here and drop me about a 150 and two tubs.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Hey.
Shannon Sharpe
Quick to let them know why they paid me.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Hey. Quicker than hurt and don't hit and don't care who out there and don't care who holding. If I get here, it's my fault. I ain't doing something right.
Shannon Sharpe
Yep. And that's how. That's how Mike is gonna have to look at it. But I think the thing is that when you do it something like this, people gonna look at you like, man, Michael whining. He's complaining the other. And the other team's like, hey, hold him. Make them call it. Make him call it. Yeah. And then he. All is going to do is get. He's going to get more and more frustrated. So just play through it. Micah, you. You. You're too good of a player to let stuff like this. I get it. I know you're frustrated. First of all, I don't believe Micah. I don't believe. This is what. This is how you. This is why you got to be careful with what you say. Because when things weren't going his way where he said, he tweeted, he wanted. He wanted to get traded. He put on X. He wanted to get traded. I no longer want to be a cowboy. He said. He said that, Ocho, a lot of times. We say it all the time, Ocho. When emotion is high, logic is low. Be careful. There's power in the tongue.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
He said he want. That's not what he really wanted. He wanted to put the pressure on the Cowboys. But you had already backed Jerry in the corner. Jerry wasn't backing down, right? Oh, you had already. You already. You already had back the man in the corner. He felt he had a handshake deal, and now you come in and this is. I'm just telling you what Jerry felt. Jerry is a man. First of all, you know how I got people in power, people in Position of power. People that have money.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
They ain't backing down.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Now, hold on. You're not gonna bully? You're not gonna bully. Not me.
Shannon Sharpe
Nothing.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Not many owners. Absolutely not.
Shannon Sharpe
No, no. So that's where. That's where they. That's. That's. That's what happened. But Micah, just keep playing. There come. You understand? Sacks are like. Sacks are like bananas and grapes. They come in punches.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Oh, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, you might go Ocho. You might go a game or two and not get any. And then you'll go three games where you have six.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yep.
Shannon Sharpe
And the next day, you know, you're like. You look up like, damn, Michael got seven.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Six that fast. And that's just how it happened. It always happens like that. Yes, it happens like that. Hell, sometimes you're going to get your. Hey. I go 2 for 35. I go 4 for 60. Damn, man. Man. In one game, man, shoot 11, 266 for 190. Well, God damn. What happened?
Shannon Sharpe
There you go.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
And it happens every time. Matter of fact, look at Chase two weeks ago, 40 yards.
Shannon Sharpe
Yep.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Look at the past two weeks. It is the nature of the business. It's the nature of the game. It always happened like that. You're not gonna go crazy every week, no matter how great you are?
Shannon Sharpe
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. But they go, you know, I mean, but here's the thing. Chase. Chase crazy 16. His. His. His good sense. He get nine. That's the thing. You look at him against Green Bay, he had nine. Like, damn, we slowed him down. Now you pop off with 16. He got 25 catches in two games. So where he was, you like, man, hey, Chase ain't winning no triple crowd this year.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
You sure about that?
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Hey.
Shannon Sharpe
Are you sure? Hey, don't popped off again.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
It's amazing. It's amazing. It's amazing what happens when you get a quarterback 40 years old, 50 years old, if you can throw and sling the ball and they can keep you upright so you can deliver said ball, this is what you get. And it's not easy because we had Dick Browning. No, but think, well, hell, he should be able to do it. No. Now, you take Joe Flacco, who got benched in Cleveland, and you put him here in the Bengals offense with elite talent around them at the receiver position, a decent running back, officer line that everybody been talking trash about. And they play.
Shannon Sharpe
They.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
They play their part.
Shannon Sharpe
That's it.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
We are going to win. Everything starts up front. Everything.
Shannon Sharpe
Look, do your job. Whatever your job is, whatever your Job. What is. Whatever is required.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
You to do to do your job. That's what you got to do. Don't worry. I'm not worried. Listen, I'm not worried about the offensive line because that ain't my job right now. If it. When it comes my time, I got a pass block. Now I got to worry about it. Okay, what we got? Who I am? I Gilligan. I'm on the island. Where am I? Where am I? Where am I protected at? Sharpie. I got you inside so I can sit heavy outside knowing I got help inside.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
If I ain't got no help inside, I gotta sit down inside. And then hopefully I can run his ass by the quarterback. The quarterback can step up, but you just gotta do your job. I can't worry about it. I can't worry about what the safety doing and what the linebacker doing or what the DN doing. Ocho. I gotta worry about what a foe doing. That's it. Cause at the end of the day, I'm getting graded. I'm getting graded on what I'm doing, not whether or not worried about what somebody else is doing. Yeah. CD Lamb sat out the past three games with a high ankle sprain. Today he said he could have played last week against the Panthers, but he sat another week so he could be fully healthy without limitations. He will not be on a pitch count against the Commanders. I feel like I'm moving around, running around, being me, happy as I can be. Obviously, just believing in my ankle. Obviously. I feel like it's back to where I need it to be. Ojo.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
What you thinking? Talk to me.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
I'm excited. I'm excited. The fact that he said and him knowing his body. I could have came back last week, but I want to wait one more week to make sure I don't have to worry about nothing. I don't have to worry about nothing. So for me, that makes that offense in Dallas even that much more scarier. And you know what's going to happen is hell. Chase got how many targets he got tonight?
Shannon Sharpe
Bad. Chase had 18 targets.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
18 targets now don't.
Shannon Sharpe
And the fact is, Ocho, he got his hands on all 18 of them. It wasn't like it was out of bounds and he have no chance. He literally got his hand on all 18, which is. People don't realize how hard that is to have that many targets and to actually put your hands on all 18.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, most definitely. Shoot, I wouldn't be surprised if the getting back on track after missing three games. I won't be surprised if. If goddamn city had 15 targets next week. I won't be surprised at all. I won't be surprised at all. At all. And listen, man, honestly, I told. I told CD I hit him when he got hurt. I say, listen, I can have you back in a week. I can have you back in a week. But he.
Shannon Sharpe
Wow. Well, look, looking at the civil like when he did that, looking at it, I said, man, that's three weeks.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Most definitely that. Hey, that thing. Ooh. Oh, let me take that back. Chase had 23 targets.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Ocho, 23.
Shannon Sharpe
23 targets. I think the most I've ever had, ocho, was like 15.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Hey, I don't. I. I can't even tell you.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't think we track targets like they do now. I don't think. I'm just saying, you know, you go back and look at the films and, you know, they throw the ball over your head, that's a target. How do you throw the ball 15ft over my damn head and out of bounds, that's a target. If you was a sniper and I was your target and you shot like that, people go like, nah, that was no talk. You off target.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah. And that's another thing I like about Flacco, too, is he makes every ball count. He makes every ball count because every ball he throws, he gonna give you a chance to get it. Yeah, he gonna give you a chance to get it.
Shannon Sharpe
I guess they count targets when they throw the ball. He's PI. So anything that comes your way.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, they count that too. Okay, okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Cause, man, Ocho, can you imagine what you could have done with 20 plus targets, man?
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
It's impossible. I mean, I'm just think. I'm thinking it would only be possible in this era.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
It would only be possible in this era.
Shannon Sharpe
I wonder when T o when Tio caught 20 passes, I wonder how many targets he had. Yeah, Marshall have the record. He has 21.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah. Brandon. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
So if you catch 20 balls, Ocho, you gotta have you got at least 23, 24, maybe even 25 targets.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Hey, matter of fact, you know how many yards I would have? You got to think I averaged maybe maybe six yards a game. Six, maybe seven catches a game, if that. But mine were always no, you ain't.
Shannon Sharpe
Argued that many catch could you ever had 100 catch season?
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
No. Hell no.
Shannon Sharpe
Because that's what I'm saying. So if you average six cats, six catches a game in 16 games, that's 96 catches. What's the most catches you had in the season?
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
About right there. About 96.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
But I was. I was a yardage monster because everything I caught was 10, 15 yards.
Shannon Sharpe
That's how I was, Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, I have 1100 yards and three touchdowns. And then somebody else got 400 yards, and they got six. I'm like, man, throw me something. But we got close to the goal line. TD gonna run that in. We not throwing no ball unless it's third and something. But other than that, man, they get that thing. TD running that end.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah. Hey, it's. It's amazing, man. Just the era. The era of football that we're in now. And they throw the ball so much. Damn. I. I can. I can only wish.
Shannon Sharpe
Ojo Dak Prescott said he plans to speak with Jerry Jones about the importance of keeping George Pickens with the Cowboys beyond this season. I've been a little busy, but I will. When I run into him in that time of privacy, I'll make sure. But here's the thing, though. Jack running in, okay, you want to keep him. Are you willing to take less than your 60 mil? Cause, okay, you got 60. George Pickens is gonna want max dollars. He's like. Because this is his first bite at the apple, he's gonna say, dak, you've had three bites at the apple. I've never had a big bite of the apple, and I'm gonna take as big a bite as I possibly. As a matter of fact, I might be a horse. I might eat the whole damn apple. Damn a bite. I want the whole damn apple. So that's the question. You know, you want all these great players. That's what Brady did. You see what Mahomes is doing? The question is, are you willing to take a little haircut? I'm not saying you got to give them 20 million, but I'm saying are you willing to take, say, if you can get 63, 64 million. Are you willing to take 50, 57, so George Pickens can get his 30? Cause he's gonna want somewhere between 32 and 36 million dollars. That's what George Pickens is going to want. Because he see what DK got. He see what all. He see what Terry McLaurin got. And I guarantee you George Pickens believe he's every bit as good as DK Metcalf and Terry McLaurin.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
He is. He is. And I'm not sure Dak is. Depending. Depending. I'm not sure Dak has already got his money already.
Shannon Sharpe
Dak Got one more year on that contract or the up. But I think he had a monster cap number. I think he got like something like 80 million in cap.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah. Declining got paid. I, I, I, I don't, I don't, I don't see him doing that. I, I would like, I would like him to allow, to allow pick go get.
Shannon Sharpe
What's your, what's his cap number next year, Dak? Oh, yeah. They got to do something with that. His cap here to 74 million. Ocho, you got to redo that deal.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Damn.
Shannon Sharpe
You got to redo that in 68.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
What you think you got?
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, bro, you got to do. Oh, you definitely, they definitely, they definitely. They're definitely going to redo that deal. Yeah, they're not going to let that man play.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
What, but what do you think, though? Do you think Dak will take less to be able to keep Pick?
Shannon Sharpe
That's what, that's what Jerry's gonna ask him.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
You mean Dak gonna ask Jerry.
Shannon Sharpe
Excuse me. Yes, that. No, that's what Jerry's gonna ask Dakota. Are you willing to take less so we can ensure we can put better players around you if Patrick Mahomes doesn't do what he does, you're not able to keep Chris Jones, right. You're not able, you're not, you're not able to keep the Travis Kelsey and keep it together. Coloftus. Hey, they're gonna have to do something with Trent McDuffie.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Oh, hey, Trent. Nice, huh?
Shannon Sharpe
Yes. So you're able to keep all these pieces together because you got Creed Humphrey on a big deal. You got your one, your right tackle. Now you hit it out the park because your left side looks really good. The left tackle, Simmons, even the guy that came, the backup, did an extremely great job the other night. But you have to, you have to, you got to give up something, Ocho. It's really, it's really that simple. Now the question is, when we had growing up financially, we struggled. My grandma said, boy, what's gonna be this month? The phone? The light or the gas?
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
One or the other.
Shannon Sharpe
I can't pay them all, son. I mean, it's really that simple. Hey, you need the phone in case we gotta call somebody. The lights so you could do your homework.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Or you and your brother gonna have to go down there and chop and chop wood. We pull that, we pull that heat away from the fireplace. Hey. And we go cut down a tree. We a. It's really that simple. So that what you want, you want to be the highest paid quarterback or you want to be sixth or seventh and have. Have talent around you to help you, because guess what? Oo. You're gonna need some defensive help, too.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Oh, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. But I. I think me honestly allow Pick to go get his thing. Allow Pick to go get what he's deserving of, and I don't think Jerry's is going to open up his pocketbook like that and cut the check that he's deserving of getting.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, you are. His agent is the same guy that represented Michael Parsons.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Oh, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
David.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, we gonna. We're gonna. We gonna let Pick gone. We. We need to go and get his money over there in Las Vegas. Over there in Las Vegas.
Shannon Sharpe
They'll pay. Now the quick. The question is, you know, Ocho, normally when you go in free agency, everybody don't have the luxury like A. A.J. brown. A.J. went from Tennessee to Philly, so a team that was perennial in the playoffs, you know, he went there normally in free agency to go get big bucks, you generally have to go somewhere in Ocho. That's they, they, they. They ain't on the come.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, you're right.
Shannon Sharpe
You're right.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
But, but.
Shannon Sharpe
But the question is, Ocho, the question again. 36 million, probably 75, 80 million guaranteed.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
I see you in Vegas. Hey, I see you. I see you in Vegas. Everybody got theirs. It's my turn.
Shannon Sharpe
I do, but this what I do Hope Ocho. I'm hoping they don't do this. Tag him.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
No, no, no, no.
Shannon Sharpe
I just o. I just got. I've tried to prepare you for everything because I already know you gonna flip out, so I'm just going to prepare you. What's today's date? Today is the 16th. Thursday, the 16th. I'm just preparing you for that Ocho day.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Hey, listen, I hear you. I hear you. I understand you preparing, but let's not play that game. Let's not play that game because if you tagging me, lets me know you don't value me. You don't think I'm worth what I can get on the open market. Don't tag me. Don't do that.
Shannon Sharpe
That's what I. I'm a firm believer in that. Ocho it. Hold on. Let's see what I'm worth. You don't think I'm worth. I'm asking for. Let me go.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
And you know, and Jerry has had that conversation with a lot of players here. We gonna let you go. We're gonna let you explore the open market and come back and tell us what they think of very few Times.
Shannon Sharpe
When you let a guy because the team gonna overbid for him because they already know what I got to do. Now, first of all, it might be a little easier because it's going to be harder for them, Dallas to. If they let him test the open market, it's going to be harder because Pick doesn't have an attachment to Dallas. He's only there for a year, so he might be viewing it as a rental. Ocho. Hey, I'm staying this rental property. I'm gonna go. Instead of getting me a house, they got these. They got these apartments that's already furnished.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Furnished, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, listen, so he's not entrenched in the community. He hasn't been there for four or five years. I don't know if he's married or has a fiance or girlfriend or whatever the case may be, but he doesn't. I don't know if he has that there. Yeah, I don't know if he has kids there. So he's not entrenched like somebody that's been there six or seven years. So it's easier.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
It's a. It's a lease with an option to buy. It's a lease with an option to buy. And I prefer you're in that lease and going somewhere where you can get what you deserve like every other receiver at your position. Has everybody else got this?
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
And you deserve to be paid like a number one. Now, the Cowboys already have a number one receiver. And the one thing that they're gonna say upstairs over there within Jerry's world is, well, we already paid CD Lamb x amount of dollars. We don't view you as such because we already have a number one. We already have a number one. Okay, you already know the game.
Shannon Sharpe
But it would be hard, Ocho, because of what they gave it. What they give up a third round pick for a pick or fourth to get to give that up for him and then. And just basically keep him as a rental for a year. So that's why I think Jerry might be more apt to sign him. Yeah, Jerry loves offense. So if a player was to get some money began for third and the fifth, and that's the next year's draft because he was signed. They traded for him after the draft. So he. He gave a third and a fifth in 2026.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Okay, then you gotta think we all. Then you have to think it all comes to Dak as well. What is Dak willing to do? How much less is Dak willing to.
Shannon Sharpe
That's the thing.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Not to take so they can sign, pick and then defense. You need defensive players.
Shannon Sharpe
You do need some. Now, the question is, Ocho, if you go out in fringe, then you know, you got to overpay. Do you believe you can hit it in the. Do you believe you can hit it in the draft market? You believe you can draft the guy or because you got two first rounders.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
You'Re not gonna draft? No. Who you gonna draft? Ain't gonna make a. Make a difference. You need a statement piece on that defense. Listen, when you put your clothes on. When you put your clothes on. This is for everybody in the chat. When you put your clothes on. I know. I know some women in there. I know some fellas in here, too. When you put your clothes on, you gotta have one thing that stands out. That's a statement piece.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Now this Cowboys defense needs a statement piece. I don't know, it could be a D tackle, it could be a corner, it could be a safety, but you got. You need it. Your statement piece gone over there to green.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know about you, Ocho. When I put my clothes on, I'm the statement. I feel. I'm saying, yes, I got nice jewelry. I got accessories.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Right, right, right, right, right. But it got to be a statement piece. Listen, when a woman. When a woman gets dressed, right?
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
There are two things that make that that for her. That is the statement piece. It's either your bag or your heels. One or the other.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
One or the other. What you're wearing doesn't matter.
Shannon Sharpe
You're right, Ocho. You. Ocho, you ain't wrong when you're right.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, talk to me now.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm just saying I can't talk to you like I want to. 26. I'm gonna talk to you. 26 right now. More probation. I'm still on probation. 26. Y' all up, Back up, back.
Diplo
I.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, my probation officer, he be checking in. He be watching this show. Okay. Every time to time, he's like, okay, you know, I'll have to write you up.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, you good?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. 26. You know, I had to do. You know, I got to do. I had to do, like, like, 12 months, right?
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
12.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I had to do 12 months probation.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
All right, well, how long we got? What, two months? We got what we. In October?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Probably around probably, like April, May 26th. I'm out like a scout on a new route.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Hey, but hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. You ain't got to wait that long, though, you know? Why you ain't got to wait that long.
Shannon Sharpe
Why we gotta really long.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Listen, when New Year, when that ball drop on New Year's ball drop? When the ball drop, you good to go. You know why?
Shannon Sharpe
They said, oh, listen, they letting you.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Off a good time serve, you know, Good time. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
When you behave, they say, they say, they say they'll give me three days for every good day I've been good. The feds. Because the feds give you like 54 days for every year whatever you serve. Hey, I'm just saying. So. Hey, hey.
Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
January 26th, January 1st. Man, you good to go, man. We back to normal.
Bobby Bones
Hey, it's Bobby from the Bobby Bones Show. I had an incredible time at this year's iHeartRadio music festival and even got the chance to hang out with Diplo and Bailey Zimmerman while I was there. How did Ashes come together? Diplo?
Diplo
I pulled up real quick. He was about to leave on tour. You're about to jump in your tour bus and we had like three hours.
Bailey Zimmerman
It was really cool. He really just like randomly showed up to my house. I'm like, oh, hey Diplo, what are you doing? He's like, I have a song that I want to show you. And I was like, okay, you can.
Bobby Bones
Listen to the full episode out now, wherever you get your podcasts and big shout out to my friends at Hyundai for making this possible. Had a blast cruising around festival weekend in the all new Palisade hybrid.
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Date: October 17, 2025
Host: Shannon Sharpe with co-host Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Topic: A wild Bengals-Steelers shootout, Joe Flacco’s resurgence, defensive struggles on display, Micah Parsons’ referee complaints, and what Dak’s contract means for the Cowboys.
This episode dives into one of the most exciting Thursday Night Football games of the season—a Cincinnati Bengals 33-31 win over the Pittsburgh Steelers, fueled by a vintage performance from “Old Man” Joe Flacco. Shannon and Ocho break down the offensive fireworks, spotlight both teams’ defensive woes, and debate what it all means moving forward: from Bengals playoff hopes to the perennial question of Dallas Cowboys’ roster construction. Plus, they address Micah Parsons’ ongoing gripes about officiating and unpack the complexities of Dak Prescott’s contract situation.
Shootout, Not Slugfest:
Shannon Sharpe (04:14): “It wasn’t a whole lot of defense played. If you love offense, this was your game.”
Seven combined passing touchdowns and nearly 900 yards of offense.
Joe Flacco’s Surprise Heroics:
Flacco’s line: 31/47, 342 yards, 3 TDs. No sacks, kept stunningly clean by the Bengals’ O-line.
Chad Ochocinco (06:29): “This is what you get… now we can compete. Why can we compete? Because we got a quarterback… a veteran presence.”
The read-option with Flacco even caught Ocho off guard (09:01).
Jamar Chase On a Tear:
Massive statline: 16 catches, 161 yards, 1 TD—with 23 targets.
Shannon Sharpe (09:25): “How the hell you let him get free for 16 on the shallow cross and ain’t nobody guarding it?” Ocho credits Bengals offensive design and calls out Steelers’ second-level confusion.
Steelers Defense Exposed:
Shannon Sharpe (24:34): “I’m not surprised Cincinnati’s defense played like this… But I thought the Steelers were better than this. …If you don’t get pressure on a drop back quarterback with those weapons… what do you think is going to happen?”
Both hosts note blown assignments, lack of pressure, and a sorely ineffective secondary.
Big Picture On Flacco:
Chad Ochocinco (13:13): “Flacco ain’t got to do much… he’s not on a team where he has to raise his play because of a lack of talent. It’s the opposite—the team’s gonna lift him.”
Shannon emphasizes the critical role a competent vet can play surrounded by elite talent.
Steelers’ DBs Scorched:
Flacco and the Bengals actively targeted every Pittsburgh DB, including elite corners.
Shannon Sharpe (19:14): “It wasn’t close… he gave it to everybody.”
Ocho points out the difference between facing average receivers and an elite duo (20:50).
Receiver Comparisons:
Chase’s run-after-catch is compared to Steve Smith, T.O., and Anquan Boldin—small but plays with anger and physicality (22:19).
Chad Ochocinco (22:19): “Steve Smith… refused to go down… very strong.”
Steelers’ Lack of Defensive Imprint:
Despite star power, Ocho and Shannon call out T.J. Watt and the Pittsburgh front for not being disruptive enough, and discuss the nature of playing “statuesque” QBs like Flacco (23:34–24:34).
Aaron Rodgers Milestone:
Rodgers passes Big Ben for sixth in all-time passing yards (29:08–30:15).
Can Flacco Keep Bengals Afloat?
Upcoming schedule offers hope: three straight home games (Jets, Bears, Steelers). Ocho is optimistic, especially as Burrow rehabs.
Chad Ochocinco (36:01): “We could run the gauntlet…”
Bengals’ Defensive Needs:
Ocho wants the defense to “meet us halfway,” aiming for a middle-of-the-pack ranking to let the offense win games (34:59).
Micah Sounds Off:
Micah Parsons expresses frustration with referees, accusing them of favoring offense and ignoring infractions against defensive players.
Micah Parsons (39:00): “They won’t call offensive pass interference but they’ll call defensive PI. …Let’s just wake up… I’m over it, just have to keep going, push through it.”
Sharpe & Ocho Call For Toughness:
Both challenge Parsons’ approach, arguing greats never complained publicly; this is simply the nature of a league that favors offense.
Shannon Sharpe (43:24): “Tell me the great defensive player you heard have a microphone and get up on the platform and complain that they’re not getting calls…”
Chad Ochocinco (44:54): “As a player of your magnitude… you shouldn’t worry about that. If you getting held, that’s on you.”
Advice for Parsons:
Let the coaches and video department handle it “the professional way” (47:11), and focus on making plays, not referee calls.
Dak’s Dilemma:
Can Dallas keep both Dak and star receiver George Pickens (recently acquired) with salary cap constraints looming?
Shannon on Star QBs & Sacrifice:
Brady and Mahomes took less to keep their roster strong. Will Dak do the same?
Shannon Sharpe (57:44): “You want all these great players. That’s what Brady did. …The question is, are you willing to take a little haircut?”
Cap Realities:
Dak faces a massive $74M cap hit next season; Ocho doubts he’s willing to take less but suggests letting Pickens go get his bag elsewhere (59:29–62:31).
Roster Chess:
Tag-and-trade risk, the realities of NFL free agency, and challenges keeping super teams together:
“It’s a lease with an option to buy… You deserve to be paid like a number one. …they’re gonna say, ‘we already paid CeeDee Lamb, we don’t view you as such…’” —Ocho (65:22)
This episode is a masterclass in breaking down the chaos and drama of a rivalry shootout. Shannon and Chad bring both facts and flavor, blending statistical insight with blunt barbershop honesty. Whether high-fiving Joe Flacco’s last-gasp heroics or calling out modern stars for breaking unwritten toughness codes, their takes are sharp and often hilarious:
If you missed this one, you’ll come away understanding just how wild Thursday Night Football was, what really makes teams and stars succeed under the salary cap, and why some old-school truths still matter on today’s gridiron.