Nightcap - Hour 1: Pacers Wild Comeback in ECF Game 1 + SGA Wins MVP

Summary

Podcast Title: Club Shay Shay
Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts and Shay Shay Media
Episode: Nightcap - Hour 1: Pacers Wild Comeback in ECF Game 1 + SGA Wins MVP
Release Date: May 22, 2025

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Introduction

In this electrifying episode of Club Shay Shay, NFL legend Shannon Sharpe delves deep into the riveting Eastern Conference Finals Game 1 between the Indiana Pacers and the New York Knicks. Joined by co-hosts Joe Johnson and Ocho (Trey Farrow), the discussion navigates through the Pacers' stunning comeback, standout performances, strategic maneuvers, and the crowning achievement of Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (SGA) as the NBA MVP.

Game Breakdown: Pacers' Wild Comeback vs. Knicks

The heartbeat of the episode centers on the unforgettable clash where the Indiana Pacers overturned a daunting 14-point deficit in the final moments to secure a thrilling overtime victory of 138-135 against the New York Knicks.

Key Performances:

• Tyrese Halliburton: Delivered a 31-point performance with 11 assists, showcasing his ability to take control during high-pressure situations.

  Shannon Sharpe [07:14]: “Tyrese Halliburton was sensational tonight. 31 points, 11 assists.”

• Aaron Neesmith: Exploded for 30 points, with an impressive 8-for-9 from beyond the arc, putting him third in the NBA for three-point makes this playoff season.

  Ocho [07:37]: “Neesmith had 30 points, 9 of 13 from three-point range. He was phenomenal.”

• Jalen Brunson: Scored a historic 43 points, making him the first Knicks player ever to achieve a 40-point game in the conference finals. However, his seven turnovers became a pivotal factor in the game's outcome.

  Shannon Sharpe [09:21]: “Jalen Brunson alone had seven turnovers. And that was the difference in the ball game.”

Strategic Insights:

• The Pacers employed a high-tempo offense, pushing the Knicks to match their pace, which led to increased turnovers and sloppy passes from the Knicks.

  Ocho [10:04]: “Indiana is relentless. They are the team, and they ready it for the moment down the stretch.”

• Turnover Analysis: The Pacers capitalized on the Knicks' turnovers, converting 28 out of 40 free throw opportunities, compared to the Knicks' 7 turnovers leading to only 4 points.

  Shannon Sharpe [10:35]: “They had seven turnovers and an overtime game total. So four quarters of basketball plus five minutes of overtime, they had seven turnovers.”

Notable Moments:

• With 2 minutes and 51 seconds remaining and a 14-point lead, the Knicks had a 99.7% chance to win the game. However, the Pacers orchestrated a miraculous comeback that turned the game on its head.

  Shannon Sharpe [07:50]: “They had a 99.7% chance of winning the game with two minutes and 51 seconds.”

• In overtime, critical plays and efficient ball handling by the Pacers sealed their victory, demonstrating their resilience and strategic prowess.

Team Strategies and Future Playoff Prospects

The hosts dissect the Pacers' strategy of maintaining a relentless pace, forcing the Knicks to adapt to a tempo they were unaccustomed to. This high-energy approach not only wore down the Knicks but also exposed their defensive vulnerabilities, particularly in managing turnovers and maintaining composure under pressure.

Shannon Sharpe [11:45]: “They want to push pace. They want tempo. And they know, ooh, this easy. This. Oh, oh, we this easy.”

Ocho emphasizes the depth and versatility of the Pacers, highlighting their ability to rely on multiple players to step up, which bodes well for their potential to advance further in the playoffs.

Ocho [06:34]: “The way they were down, he was still playing hard, fierce. And he shot eight for nine from three.”

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (SGA) Wins MVP

A significant highlight of the episode is the celebration of SGA's MVP award. Shannon Sharpe and Ocho laud SGA's remarkable season, noting his efficiency and leadership on the court.

SGA's Achievements:

• Averaged 33 points, 12 rebounds, and 5 assists per game.
• Achieved 30-point games consistently, showcasing his scoring prowess and consistency.
• His efficient shooting from the floor (51%) sets him apart, drawing comparisons to legendary figures like Michael Jordan.

Shannon Sharpe [36:07]: “Shai is shooting 51% from the floor while putting up a lot of points. Only Jordan has done that at the guard position.”

Contract and Future Implications: The discussion transitions to SGA's upcoming contract options, weighing the benefits of a 5-year, $380 million supermax deal versus a 4-year, $294 million contract. The hosts argue that securing the supermax is a strategic move to retain SGA's talents and maintain team competitiveness.

Shannon Sharpe [47:01]: “SGA will soon become the highest-paid player in the NBA. Very well deserved.”

Historical Comparisons and NBA Landscape

Sharpe and Ocho draw parallels between current NBA dynamics and historical contexts, discussing how international players have risen to prominence, challenging the dominance of American players. They speculate on the future of NBA MVPs and the evolving competitive landscape.

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander [73:06]: “With the globalization of the game, international players are now at the forefront, challenging our best Americans.”

Conclusion

The episode wraps up with reflections on the high-stakes nature of playoff basketball, the significance of strategic gameplay, and the promising future for both the Indiana Pacers and Shai Gilgeous-Alexander. Shannon Sharpe emphasizes the importance of hard work and strategic decisions in achieving success, leaving listeners with a sense of anticipation for the upcoming playoff games.

Shannon Sharpe [72:56]: “What they think about is not a foregone conclusion, because when the original Dream Team, they had four or five players. Now, it's a global stage.”

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Notable Quotes:

• Shannon Sharpe [07:14]: "Tyrese Halliburton was sensational tonight. 31 points, 11 assists."
• Ocho [07:37]: “Neesmith had 30 points, 9 of 13 from three-point range. He was phenomenal.”
• Shannon Sharpe [09:21]: “Jalen Brunson alone had seven turnovers. And that was the difference in the ball game.”
• Shannon Sharpe [11:45]: “They want to push pace. They want tempo. And they know, ooh, this easy. This. Oh, oh, we this easy.”
• Shai Gilgeous-Alexander [73:06]: “With the globalization of the game, international players are now at the forefront, challenging our best Americans.”

This comprehensive analysis not only captures the essence of the game but also underscores the strategic depth and individual brilliance that define high-stakes playoff basketball. Whether you're a die-hard fan or a casual listener, this episode offers valuable insights into the dynamics shaping the NBA's present and future.

Transcript

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Ocho]

The volume.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wow wow wow Joe. I can use seven more. I can use six more games like this. If we get six more games like this, I won't be disappointed. Thank you guys, ladies and gentlemen, for joining us for another excuse me episode of Nightcap Y' all know me. I am your favorite unc. Shannon Sharpe, my partner and co host, is having technical difficulties, so we gotta go right now. And I got Arkansas, Little Rock native, University of Arkansas alum, the number 10 pick in the draft, ISO, Joe. Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys for joining us right after this game to hear us talk basketball. The Indiana Pacers, down by as many as 14 points late in the fourth quarter, put on a furious rally, come back and take the game in overtime. 138 to 135. Tyrese Halliburton was sensational tonight. Also. Aaron Neesmith was really, really good. He was great. This game lived up to what we thought a final Eastern Conference or Western Conference final should be. This was it. And if we get six more games like this, regardless of who won, I think everybody will be happy. Please make sure you check out Shay by laportier. We do have it in stock now. If you can't find it in a city or state near you, order it online. We'll ship it directly to your door. VSOP Shaved by laportier is a vsop. It's a premium cognac. I promise you it is the best tasting cognac on the market. Please direct responsible and stay safe. Go follow my media company page on all of his platforms. Shay, Shay Media and my clothing company, 84. That link is pinned in the chat. Supplies are limited, and once they're gone, they're gone. So please make sure you grab yours while supplies last. Joe, this game was unbelievable. I down 14. I mean, I think they were down as many as ten with like two. Two minutes to go. I was like, well, hey, let me go and change out of my. My workout little stuff and get ready to go down there, do nightcap, and I come back downstairs and it's 123 to 121 and Cass at the free throw line. I like, okay, Cat make both of these. They got an uphill climb. He missed one.

[Ocho]

Uh oh.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now we gonna play a free throw game. We gonna play a free throw game, Joe. That's what we about to do. Hey, I ain't gonna try to get it all back in one shot. I'm gonna see how y' all handle pressure. And boy, this was unbelievable. Ball game. Pascal Siakam, 17 points. Aaron Neesmith, 30 points. Miles Turner, 14 points. Nemhard, 15 points. Tyrese Halliburton, was sensational tonight. 31 points, 11 assists. They won this game because they took care of the basketball. Yep. They had seven turnovers and an overtime game total. So four quarters of basketball plus five minutes of overtime, they had seven turnovers. Jalen Brunson alone had seven turnovers. And that was the difference in the ball game. They've got to do a better job of making those free throws. Also, they was 28 of 40. So in other words, they got to the line 40 times and. And they only cash 28 times. Joe, you watch this game. And I know, look. And I'm like, damn, y' all gotta stop something, Indiana. Cause I thought I was gonna be able to have to come on the show, Joe, and say in Joe, they gotta stop something. They can't let cat go get 35, let Brunson get 43, let this guy do this. They say, oh, well, watch us. And when they needed to make plays late in the ball game, they made every play. They made every right pass. What is it that the Pacers did in the last two minutes of the game and in overtime that they were able to go on the road, be down as many as 14 late in the fourth, down by nine with, like two minutes to go and win this ball game?

[Ocho]

Oh, man, what. What a hell of a game. A hell of a game. I thought the Pacers have done what they've done pretty much this entire postseason. When they've been counted out, you know, they got guys who step up still playing desperation basketball down the stretch. I think Nate Smith was the player of the game to me, man, the.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Way I do, too.

[Ocho]

The way they were down, he was still playing hard, fierce. And he shot eight for nine from three. I don't know, four.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Four from the free throw line.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah. Four for four from the free throw line. Eight for nine for three. I'm not sure you gonna count on that every night, but tonight he was special, and he gave them that lift that they needed. But they got contributions from some of everybody. Look at that bench. T.J. mcConnell come in and you don't get no drop off. Like, he's not going to hurt you. He going to help you in every facet of the game. And I thought, man, they were just relentless down the stretch, even to start the game. I thought they came out ready to play. They pick. I didn't know if we was watching the NBA or the ncaa, the way them dudes picking up full court.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They picking up.

[Ocho]

They picking up full court the entire game. And I guess their whole idea Is to wear Brunson down, to wear the Knicks down. Because you know, they only gonna play about seven guys and throwing about eight, nine dudes at you who are all dogs. And they coming in, they getting all the straps. It was a beautiful game tonight, man. I know everybody in New York is pissed.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They sick.

[Ocho]

They sick.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I. I hadn't seen the Knicks fans this sick maybe since Icetray did what he did.

[Ocho]

Yeah, it got quiet in there tonight, man. It got quiet in there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You could hear rat peeing on cotton.

[Ocho]

Hello.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm talking about the bell up. That's how quiet it was, Joe. I was like, good God about it.

[Ocho]

Hey. And then when Halleberg hit the ridge at the choke joint at the end.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

And he was still on the line. I said, oh, yeah, he know he gotta come out and play hard now. He done. He done had a little early celebration.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he had. Yeah, yeah. I was like, oh, yeah, they got this one. And I came here, I'm celebrating Ash like. And Ash and shelling like. It was a two point. I say two. No, no, he's behind the line. It's a no. It's moving. I said, all right, this man don't pull the KD owner.

[Ocho]

Hey, but look, you look how they gained their composure and overtime and still came out and put their mark on the game, bro. Hey, look, we might look up uncle and this Indiana team could be in the finals. This is what I was talking about. Because they so unpredictable. Because they got guys like Nate Smith, who you may not count on to give you 30 every night, but he won you a game tonight. So the next night, it may be somebody else. It could be Pascal Siakam, but you know what I mean, it could be somebody else. So they got a multitude of cats who are willing to step up, who take that challenge, and they competing at the highest level. I thought the Knicks played great. You know, Brunson, you got four.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got 15 to 25 from Brunson, 43 points. You got a level of 17 from Cat. 35 points, 12 rebounds. Come on now. I mean, you got 16 from OG you got eight. You got 16 from Mikel Bridges. You got eight, 13 and seven with a steal from Josh Hart. I mean, well, damn, they playing well.

[Ocho]

They played well enough to win. They had the game in their hands. But it seemed like, lay down the stretch. They was having these mental lapses where they were almost turning the ball over, but they kept getting away. I'm like, hold on, Indiana gonna make them pay for this. And they just kept throwing these Little lackadaisical passes and end up getting these turnovers. Man, Indiana is relentless, bro. They.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They are.

[Ocho]

They are the team, and they ready they it for the moment down the.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And we've seen this from them in three games down the stretch against Cleveland, they find ways, just like we saw the Knicks do this down the stretch against Detroit. We saw them do this down the stretch against Boston. In. In. In clutch moments. They find ways to win. They make the right pass. They hit the big shot. They do everything right. They get steals. They play passing lanes. I mean, look, both teams, I was like, Jalen Brunson was 15 or 25. Cat was 11 or 17. But, Nick, this is what y' all known for. Y' all known for defense. Y' all let tyrese Halliburton go 12 to 23. Y' all let Nemhard go 6 of 10. Y' all let Miles Turner go 6 of 11. Aaron Naismith missed four shots. He was 9 of 13, 8 of 9 from the three. The only guy that really shot less than 50% that played heavy minutes was really Pascal Siakam. Yeah, 7 to 16. Other than that, they shot 51% from the floor. Now, this is what. Look, we know Indiana can play defense, and they played it really good down the stretch, but they're a team that want to get it out the net or get it off the rim. But they want to push. They'll give you. They'll give you a basket to get a quicker basket because they want the tempo. They want. They want tempo. And they know, ooh, this easy. This. Oh, oh, we this easy. The next day, you know, you in a track meet, and they use same vote and you not.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Cause they gonna give you some easy ones, some good looks. That's gonna seduce. That's gonna seduce you into playing that style of play. And next thing you know, look, we got 138, 135 point game. This is what the Pacers want.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They don't think you can at this pace. Knicks. Knicks. This is not the. The pace the Knicks want to play at or need to play at. Look, you gotta slow this tempo down. I mean, and you look, you got 69 points at the half. That's right up. That's right up there. The pace of Allen. They want a 65, 75 halftime pace.

[Ocho]

It was right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They want to get up and down.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And when you play that style, you need to be very, very careful, because I don't know if that's what you're equipped to do. Look, Cat played Phenomenal tonight. I thought Brunson played phenomenal. I mean, both teams played really well tonight. Now, they called some ticky tack stuff early, but late in the ball game, they did not want the Knicks to lose. Nah, that was an and one on topping it was Mikael Bridges hit him. He got him in the chest and he hit him on the arm and on the shoulder.

[Ocho]

Definitely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And they didn't call it. That was a man one. That should have been a chance for him to go to the line and have a four point lead.

[Ocho]

I agree, I agree.

[Shannon Sharpe]

On the rebound, they dab down, but K Bridges pulled a man down again. He was like, damn, you pulled the man pants down. And they like, hey, play. Hey, Mitchell Irving. That's why I got Mitch A. And like, play on. I'm like, well, damn, y' all ain't gonna call no foul, right?

[Ocho]

Hey, this playoff basketball. Hey, another thing I will say, because Indiana's so deep and remember I've always talked about, they got at least six guys who average double figures in the playoffs.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Ocho]

This doesn't surprise me that Nate Smith had a game like this. What? What? What? What I was really concerned about. The Knicks was down the stretch. You see how them shots kept coming up short.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He had his legs gone.

[Ocho]

Yeah, them legs gone. Because you done played at this tempo that you ain't necessarily accustomed to playing at every night in Indiana. This is what they do because they don't really have guys who playing 45, 42 minutes a night. So this was an up and down game and, you know, in favor of the Pacers and wow. It didn't disappoint. Man, when he hit that shot, I was like, oh, my God.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I said, I was like, man, hey, when it hit and went straight up in there, I said, watch this thing go in. I like, yeah, Joe. I was like, watch this thing go. I told Shelly, I said, shelly, watch this go in. And she started screaming. I was like, oh, my goodness. There's a difference. Walking on the treadmill for 45 minutes versus jogging or sprinting on the treadmill for 45 minutes. And you see, the Pacers are used to sprinting on the treadmill. So you sprint for 45 versus the team that.

[Ocho]

Oh, oh, I exercise.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I get my exercise in. Okay.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's kind of like when I tell people, like, look, you can do lift, lift weight and then you can do cardio. But when you combine the two, that's when you can see somebody. Cardio capacity. Yes. Because I'm combining, I'm forcing you to use your strength, your muscles, and the other muscle, that heart.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So if you notice, sometimes you get guys that are really strong and you can get. So you can find someone that's really good at cardio. But when I combine the two now, like, oh, damn.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And that's what the Pacers want you to do. They want you to get up and down. They want you to try to. Oh, man, we about to get 130. We about to get 140.

[Ocho]

Amen.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We've seen the Knicks, we've seen the Pacers a couple of times this year get 140, get 150 points in regulation. You gotta be careful playing at their tempo, playing at their pace. I thought this game. Look, if somebody, if I tell you what, if somebody told. Told you. If you're a Nick fan and somebody say, hey, Brunson going to shoot 25 times, he's going to make 15 of them. He going to have 43 points. Cass going to have 35 and 12. You're like, well, we won the game.

[Ocho]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We won the game.

[Ocho]

Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what you think. If your two big guns and they fire and they go off and they're efficient while they're doing it. Now, if Brunson had 3:43 points and it took him 32 shots to get it, I ain't impressed with that. If Cat had 35 and it took him 25 shots to get it, I ain't impressed with that. It took cash 17 shots to get 35 points. It took Brunson 25 shots to get 43. They shot 51% from the floor, but they gave up 51% from the floor. Yeah, they. They gave up 41% from the three point line, where you ask. And you didn't turn them over like you did Boston. You didn't turn them over like you did Detroit. Now, they got really good ball handlers. Halberton's going to have the ball in his hand. And he's not a turnover guy. McConnell comes in, he's not a turnover guy. The thing I like about McConnell, he knows who and what he is. Yeah, Like, I'm not Tyrese Halliburton. I'm not Shay Gilous. I'm not Luca. I'm not one of these guys. Hey, I don't need to be fast. All this between my legs and behind my back and herky jerky. This is who I am.

[Ocho]

I'm effective, though.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'mma get it out.

[Ocho]

I'm effective and I'm gonna get it done. And I Promise you, wherever we at, I'm gonna take us to another level. We ain't gonna never drop off. That's why I love T.J. mcConnell. And you know, his presence that he brings on the court, Unk, it ain't, it ain't the prettiest. But I promise you, as a backup pg, I don't know if it can get too much better than him. You know, he comes in with it on his mind, man. He's aggressive offensively and defensively. He's a pest. Yes, yes. He moves them puppies well.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Just like Peyton Pritchard for the Celtics.

[Ocho]

Just like Peyton Pritchard, but not even just him, you know, even these other guys, the OB toppins, the Matherans, when they come.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Obie was great tonight.

[Ocho]

They all are defensive minded and then offensively, it kind of fuels their offense to where they're able to get steals, get in the passing lanes, get fast break points, and then it kind of get them going. Man, I thought Indiana was special tonight in that atmosphere. Can you imagine what it's like playing in there on an away team? Like them dudes came in, man, I'm talking about from the start of the game. I felt they, they imposed, they will, and they never gave up. Even when they were down 14 points, you know, they were still fighting.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They were still under three minutes points off. Turnovers in game one. The Pacers for 17, 15 turnovers, they got 27 points. The Knicks for seven turnovers, they got four points. The Knicks had a 99.7%, a 99.7% chance of winning the game with two minutes and 51 seconds. They're up 14 teams, up 14 plus in the final two and a half. Two minutes and 50 seconds in a playoff, fourth quarter game or overtime in the play by play era, 977 and one, the one. You just witnessed it tonight. If you watch this game and the play by play era. I think the play by play goes back 1996. 97.

[Ocho]

Correct.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think that's when they started to play by play. You're talking about 977 and one in that span, 1996. Okay?

[Ocho]

In that span, them last three minutes of the game, I made threes and.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They seemed like forever, seemed like three hours.

[Ocho]

Oh, man, look, they kept getting three. They get a stop like it was just. They kept. I was like, man, they not finna come back and I'd be down.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

This was an amazing game and hopefully we can get six more. Ocho, I don' I know you was having technical difficulties, trying to get logged on, but the pacers come back 138, 135 down 14 points with two minutes under three minutes left in the ball game and you heard me read off the stat. They had a 99.7% chance of winning in the play by play era which started in 1996. Teams are 977 and oh until tonight when you're up by that many points with that few time without that few time on the clock and the Knicks gave it away. Give them credit. They passing lane, they were getting deflections. They almost. They almost got it earlier. Nemhardt almost got one, got another one. Yeah, but this game was sensational night. Aaron Neesmith, 30 points, 9 of 13, 8 of 9 from the three point line. He scored 20 big points in the fourth. Aaron Neesmith this playoff, he's 35 point 35 what? 35 made threes. He has 35 made threes. He's third in the NBA. 54 from three point line.

[Unknown]

Hey, go ahead, Ocho. Hey uncle Joe. Listen, this is what I call playoff basketball. Now I've watched some basketball over the years. I've never seen a game like tonight. I've never seen a game like tonight when your two big guns are on fire and they hitting on all cylinders like they like catch in Brunson. Were you expecting to win a game like this? When you buy that amount of points with that little time left to go in the game, you not expecting the other team to come back and win regardless of circumstance or any hypothetical you come up with. But what we saw tonight, it seemed unreal. It was like something out of a movie. This is how mov. How. This is how movie story endings happen. They happen like what we saw tonight. This great game. You, you. You said it too. The Knicks won't be able to keep up with that offensive pace. I think they need to. They need to play at their own pace and not play the way the places play. Used to running up and down the floor, back and back and forth. But God damn man, that tonight was. That was a beautiful game. Now if we get six more games like this, this might be the guest seven game series of all time. If the game end like this, in this manner?

[Ocho]

Oh, you think it's going seven?

[Unknown]

No, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just throwing it out there. But I just.

[Ocho]

You just like. You just like. You just like the game today, the first game, it was pretty good.

[Unknown]

Hey, what scares me also is I think just like the Wolves game, it was very important to win game one. It was very, very important for, to me for the Knicks to win game one. Especially at home, you got, you got to steal that game.

[Ocho]

Hey, Ocho.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Go ahead, Joe, go ahead.

[Ocho]

Well, Ocho was saying that he don't know if the Knicks can keep up with this pace. They should play their pace. They can't. Because you know why the Pacers apply so much pressure that they are forcing the Knicks to speed up. Meaning if I'm guarding you full court. Yeah. At some point you might get a step on me. So you figure you may have to go and take what you can get.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You see what I'm saying?

[Ocho]

So it's like they induced the Knicks to play in this pace and it works in their favor. Cause down the stretch, look what you had. You got a lot of sloppy basketball from the Knicks, a lot of turnovers, a lot of mishaps, and ultimately it costs you the game. You know what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah. Look, I did not think. But you know what happens, Joe? A lot of times when you down by so, so, so many points and all of a sudden you make a comeback, you start to feel like, oh, we gonna get this one. Yeah. You start to feel that you're gonna win. The other team starts to feel like we're about to lose because they see 14, 11, 9, 8, 7. Oh, damn. Hold on. What happened, what happened to that lead? And everybody, all the fans like, damn, come on, clock. The clock can't go fast enough.

[Unknown]

Hey, Uncle Joe. But honestly, you know, you said with the Pacers doing what they do, as far as forcing the Knicks to play outside of their comfort zone, you got to be uncomfortable being uncomfortable. You got to continue to play the Knicks pace because if you trying to keep up and do. Just because they putting pressure on you and it's causing you to, it's causing you to have turnovers that makes ill advised passes or having mistakes. That's the reason you're losing the game. So you, you listen, I don't know how you're able to do it, Joe, especially from a basketball standpoint. Say when I think about boxing and there's a pressure fighter.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

Trying to force you to fight, but to do everything you can in your will, to stay relaxed, to stay calm under pressure and continue to do your game or whatever your game plan may be. The Knicks going to have to find a way, regardless of the pressure that Indiana is applying, to stay within their game. Because that's not the way you guys play basketball. It's just not.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But here's the thing though. OO the bullet keeps coming up, hitting you side your head and you say, nah, just don't worry about it. That is not what you do. At some point in time you got to fight back. So what happens is, is that they're playing at this fanatic place and you like, hey man, I got me a couple of easy basket too. Hey, look at that. Hey, I bet the rim, boom. I got me a couple of easy ones you like, okay, this easy right here. This easy. And the next thing you know you've gotten yourself into something that you really didn't want to get into. It's kind of like Ocho, you got a one point lead. Now what you should do is go down at the one yard line. But what the guy want to do, he want to celebrate. So he going into end zone, next thing you know they get a touchdown, get a two point conversion, they get the ball in overtime first and now you like, damn, what happened? Yeah, well what happened? You did what you weren't supposed to do and it's a lot easier and I understand it's a lot easier said than done because like you said. But I'm looking at the Knicks even at that phonetic pace. Joe, I got a 14 point lead with under three minutes to go. And I got Mikhail Bridges and I got OG Anunoby and I got Josh Hart. That should be that. Those three players with Jaylen Brunson and Cat should be enough to hold that because they were enough to get that. So if they're good enough to get it, they should be good enough to keep it.

[Unknown]

Let me ask you a question. What if you read off that percentage again when you had. When you're up by that many points, with that little time left to go, what is the percentage again with your chance to win that game?

[Shannon Sharpe]

The Knicks had a 99.7% chance to win when they led by 14 with 2 minutes and 51 seconds to go. You know what, teams up by 14 plus in the final 2 minutes and 50 seconds of a playoff fourth quarter or overtime. In the play by play era prior to tonight they had been 977 and oh, after tonight they're 977 and one. That one. The Knicks.

[Unknown]

You know what? Tonight, honestly, it's probably a little too late, depending on where you live or where you are. I think we all need to play the lotto.

[Ocho]

Huh?

[Unknown]

We need to play the lotto, man.

[Ocho]

Listen, I picked. I pick Indiana to go to the finals. My thing is. Man, come on, stop playing. You know, we got that little bit we got. Come on, don't act like. Don't act like that, okay?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got. You got a little. You got. Y' all got it. You got it.

[Ocho]

You got.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got a little double or nothing on it, Joe.

[Ocho]

So listen, with Brunson and Cat playing as fishing as they played today.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

And they end up still losing the game. I mean, it's like.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho, it's like you go for 175, TJ get a 115, Carson throw for 375, you get a running back one for 100, and you somehow you lost the game by four. You know what that's like, how much better? You saw your Bengals do this all the time. Chase Higgins go off. No, throw it for 400. And you're like, how we lose.

[Ocho]

My thing is, they may. What if they. What if they not efficient like this in the next game? I know Nate Smith may not go 8 for 9 from 3, but they gonna have other guys who gonna step up and gonna play big, and you can count on that. If Brunson and Cat don't play like this, they won't be in no games, bro. They won't even be in no games.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What I love is Halliburton was efficient, was aggressive. 23 shot attempts, 12 three point attempts. They get into trouble when he's on five. He got five attempts. He got eight attempts. No, bro. Nah, not now. Not now. We need you aggressive. We need you pushing pace. Try to get downhill. If you can get all the way down to the rim. Get all the way down to the rim. And if they come to collapse, hey, you got great basketball iq. Kick it out. Damn. O, let me ask you a question. Did what you call them get you sick?

[Ocho]

Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Luxury. Did they get you sick? Did they get you sick last night?

[Unknown]

Oh, no, no, no, no. I got the missus got me sick.

[Ocho]

Hold on, Uncle Ocho. I was paying attention the other night, and I seen Ocho was at a little spot. He said they were ballet dancers. He had some ballet dancers.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, He's. Yeah, yeah. Adult ballet. Adult ballet.

[Ocho]

What kind of ballet? They do Osho.

[Unknown]

Adult ballet.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, Gregory Hines, like. Like Baryshnikov. Ballet.

[Unknown]

Yeah, yeah, basically that. But it's more exotic. It's more. It's. It's more on the luxurious side of ballet.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

Hey, listen, it's still very graceful. Yeah, just different types of movement.

[Ocho]

Just for the grown and sexy.

[Unknown]

Exactly.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Joseph.

[Unknown]

Hey, Joe, we got. I got to take you out there. I just got me a job. I'm the head security out there, and I just applied for the head chef job at that area 29, you know, because, you know, I can cook. You know, I went to the.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't need to cook.

[Ocho]

No, hey, hold on, hold on.

[Unknown]

I went to La Cordon Bleu. I didn't finish. I did two semesters, but I had to go back and take care of some business.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But that's like saying I went to two semesters of law school at Harvard. You not no lawyer.

[Unknown]

Listen, you're not a lawyer, but the law is there, so.

[Ocho]

Law.

[Unknown]

You just ain't got the right star yet.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Law list. Yeah.

[Unknown]

Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Joe.

[Unknown]

Is beautiful. A beautiful, beautiful establishment, Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Every.

[Unknown]

Every tune now, you got to check it out.

[Ocho]

They never heard of nothing like a dope dog.

[Unknown]

Matter of fact, you know who. Hey, hey, uncle, you know whose spot that is?

[Ocho]

Who?

[Unknown]

Earl Thomas.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Is it?

[Unknown]

That's why Area 29. Yeah, that's for the 29.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Makes sense. Makes sense.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Tyrese Halliburton, Game 1. 30 points, 11 assists, 1 turnover. He's one of five players with a 30, 10 A game this playoffs. Jalen Brunson, 43 points, 5 assists on 15 to 25 field goal attempts. He's the first Knick ever with a 40 point game in the conference finals. I don't know how much better he can play. Maybe he says, you know what? Maybe if I cut my turnovers in half. Do give. Give you what I gave you last tonight offensively, but cut the turnovers. He had as many turnovers by him as the entire Pacer team. And when you turn the ball over, it leads to run out, it leads to easy baskets, and you try to make it as difficult as you possibly can on the opposing team. Nothing easy. In football terms, Joe, we say nothing cheap, nothing deep.

[Ocho]

Right? I look, I think with Brunson, I'm kind of borderline on a lot of them fouls. He be getting like, he initiate a lot of the contact.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Of course he does.

[Unknown]

And hey, Joe, he initiated right with the shoulder. That's called great acting.

[Ocho]

I'm so sick of looking at that. Ocho. I want to see good basketball, man.

[Unknown]

That's good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, you don't like watching Shay play, then he do.

[Ocho]

He do. He do the same thing. But what I'm saying is Indiana is playing great defense. Like, he ain't really just beating them like that off the dribble. So they staying with him with the first two, three steps, right? And then he initiate the contact and flail and it's like Indiana, I'm like, man, they playing great defense. They getting a bad whistle out here, man. He shot 14 free throws, made 12. He probably should have shot about half of that. Like, it was a lot of marginal calls that I thought that he got tonight. And I was like, man, listen, that's great defense. You know, I think, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Miles McBride shot as many free throw attempts as the most on the pacers. Pascal had five and Matheran had five. Miles McBride had five free throw attempts. Like you mentioned. Jalen Brunson had 14, Cat had 11.

[Ocho]

Hey, Indiana ain't studying. They get into that chicken.

[Unknown]

They don't care at all, Joe. Nah, they don't care at all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This was a great game. I hope we get something comparable tomorrow in the Western Conference finals. This is what I want to see. Because supposedly, allegedly, these are the four best teams. Ocho, these are the two best teams in the Eastern Conference, the two best teams in the Western Conference. It shouldn't be that big, that vast of a difference. Right. And we shouldn't see 30 in 40 point victories.

[Ocho]

I agree.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm not saying that we should. Everything should come down to the buzzer. But I'm saying you got to the conference finals and you losing by 30.

[Unknown]

Yeah, everybody should be equally.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, nah, nah.

[Unknown]

Everybody should be equally yoked at this point, especially this one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We should be two evenly matched ball clubs. But this was an unbelievable ball game. The Pacers had 69 points at the half. They got 21 in the third, 35 in the eight in the fourth quarter. And then you got 62 from the Indiana. Then they get 25. So they cut into the lead, and then they get another cut into the lead. They get 38 points in the in the fourth and they outscore them 13:10 in the overtime. If they win, go on the road, snatch home court. 138 to 135. Anything that we know about Indiana, they get greedy. They're not content with just one. We saw them go to Cleveland. Still game one. And what did they do? They said, you know what we want sweep states. Not only do we want them in Mega Million, we want Powerball too. And while you at it, Give us fantasy 5. We want it all.

[Ocho]

So I got them. I got them winning by landslide in game two. I just feel like this pace, obviously they gonna keep up and I just don't. I think the Knicks gonna wear down, obviously. I've said that in the past couple series, but at the pace that the Pacers play with, it's gonna be hard for the Knicks to keep up with that. Man, for Brunson and Cat to play like this the entire series, Yeah, I don't know if they can do that. Guys, I'll be honest with you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Shay Gil just went. Nope. He did what everybody know is the worst kept secret. He won the MVP, 33 points, 5, 6 and 2. Best player, best team, first in points, second and still first in plus minus, first in 30 point games, first in 40 point games, first in 50 point games. Last year he finished runner up. A lot of the been made about Shay being at the free throw line. 29 of the NBA MVPs attempted more free throws in the MVP season than Shai did. This year, 29 of the MVPs in the MVP season attempted more free throws than what Shea did in his MVP season.

[Ocho]

You know what that tell me. And boy, getting a whole lot of buckets, Ocho. Yeah, Yeah, a whole lot of buckets. He flat out got game, man. I'm happy for Shay, obviously, you know, I know this is a special moment for him. I'm sure this is something that he's kind of set out to do probably over the last few years when he probably seen that it was really possible. And him getting slighted last year, I think it put a little fire in the comeback. This year, even better. And that don't happen a lot of times, man. You know, sometimes you'll see a guy in it and then he'll fade away. But Shay, he's been right there, bro. From, from, from the start.

[Unknown]

Hey, hey, when you look at it, right, I'm. I'm not, I'm not trying to say. I'm not trying to say he's this individual. I'm saying the way he carries himself, the way he goes about his game, his worth that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I love everything about him.

[Unknown]

Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I love everything about the man.

[Unknown]

You know who I want to compare it to? Oh, old 24 down there in LA. Just his approach to the game, his style, mannerisms, how serious he takes it, the chip that he wears on his shoulder, never complaining. He just goes out and he plays ball.

[Ocho]

I agree.

[Unknown]

All they do is play ball.

[Ocho]

Joe Smooth.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hell yeah.

[Unknown]

On and off the court, every man Listen, man.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And the thing is, you know, I'm reading. Reading what his quotes about that. He said, I figured I could be really good because I saw the work that I was putting into it. And then I control what I can control. And then when I can't, I don't worry about it, he said. But never did I imagine this. You see, And I've said this all the time. Ocho, you hear me say this all the time. It's hard for me to see a player not getting incrementally better. I'm not saying that he's going to all of a sudden be an undrafted free agent and all of a sudden he's going to go to an mvp. But I'm saying it's hard if you putting the work in. See, you can't be mad for results you didn't get for the work that you didn't put in. Hello. Cause see, a lot of times, Joe, people get mad at results they didn't get for work they didn't put in. Why are you mad when you know, you see, for us, for me, I can't. I don't know what a person does. I can just tell you. I can just speak to what I did, what I do. So therefore, when I have success, I'm not surprised by the success that I have because I know how hard I work now. Hard work. And that's what I tell kids all the time when they do a lot more speaking engagements. I say hard work doesn't guarantee you anything. But I can tell you this, without it, you don't have a chance.

[Ocho]

Hello.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It doesn't guarantee you that you're going to get everything that you asked for or what you set out to accomplish. But without it, you don't have a chance.

[Ocho]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So I see this young man and I see where he came from. He got traded because the Clippers believe, said, you know what? We want Paul George and Kawhi won't. Paul and I get it. I get Kawhi. Kawhi says I'm in win not mode. Same thing we talked about, Joe, about Cooper flag.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't got time for him to get good. I need to win. I need to be good right now. So you wanted Paul George, who was an all Star, all NBA player, can play both ends of the court. But you see this young man now, this is his third straight year. I think he's averaged 30 points a game. There ain't a whole lot of guys in the history of the game can say that, right?

[Ocho]

Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And he's efficient while he's doing it. If you average 30 and you shooting 42% that tell me you put up a whole lot of damn shots and people get seduced by raw numbers, right? Nah nah, nah nah nah nah. This man shooting 51% from the floor.

[Unknown]

Can I ask you a question?

[Shannon Sharpe]

A whole lot of people have ever done A whole lot of guards have ever done that, right?

[Unknown]

Can I ask you a question? Joe? You know your history much better than I do, Uncle. You know the history of the game and basketball much better than I do in comparison to what SGA has been able to do. Being efficient from the field, scoring 51% while putting up a lot of shots in comparison, who does he compare to from the past?

[Shannon Sharpe]

The only guy that's done this from a guard is Jordan. To score 30 plus and shoot 50% from the floor. Only Jordan has done it at the guard position.

[Unknown]

Okay, I'm just curious because I wanted you to say that because I heard someone say I just reading the chat, just reading the chat and oh, people are so quick to compare somebody to Kobe. So I just wanted you to hear the numbers and why the comparison came true based on what he's actually doing in real life.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he's, he's, he's look, he's more efficient. Hardness kind of reminds you more like Kobe. They're going to score a bunch of points, but they're not going to do it in the most efficient manner. Now, can they have nights where they go shoot 50% from the floor? Absolutely. But more times than not, they're going to be probably around that 46, 45%, right? This kid is shooting half his, he's making half his shots now, the playoff notwithstanding, because he hadn't been as efficient in the postseason as he has in the regular season. But you look at all the top guys, none of them have. Even Nikola Jokic wasn't as efficient in the postseason as he was in the regular season. Obviously, things changes. You're playing better teams. Those guys get to focus on you on a nightly, on a nightly or every other night basis. And it's not you're playing Charlotte one night, you're playing Milwaukee, you're playing Orlando, you're playing Atlanta, you're playing Miami. This team set their whole game plan up to deal with you over the course of two weeks if necessary.

[Ocho]

Yeah, because when you competing in the playoffs, you know, we gonna pay attention to every little detail and teams pay attention to details. And we wanna take your strengths, we wanna take em away from you in the playoffs. You know what I mean? We wanna make, you have to use a counter. We wanna make, you have to pass it to somebody else and make a play. But you let alone yourself. We not gonna really let you play. Everything you get, you gonna have to work hard for.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Yes.

[Ocho]

The stars in the playoffs this year, the shades, the Yokich, you know them dudes had, they've had to work tremendously hard just to kind of get theirs off. The one thing I love about Shay Arkin Ocho, he's not just offensive minded like he, yeah, he, he has an arsenal as far as his offensive package, but defensively, bro, he sits down, he plays both ends of the court, he gets his teammates involved. And that team, they love being around each other. That's a scary team.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep. I love it.

[Ocho]

I'm happy for Shay, man. This is, this, this is a huge, huge accomplishment for him. And I'm sure he's proud of it. And he's the type of guy who try to build on it and try to learn a couple more MVPs. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. As well as he should. SGA met the supermax criteria all NBA two out of the three seasons last off season. But he was ineligible to sign because of the short years of service because he won the mvp and he's gonna be an all NBA selection. He's now eligible for the Supermax Ocho 5 years, 380 million. Or he can sign the 4 year 294 million. But would have to wait till the 2026 off season. I'm good. I ain't got nothing to do. Y' all still paying me 30 million, right? 35 million right now.

[Unknown]

Hey, what you gonna do? You gonna ride that 30? You're gonna ride that 30 being out right to 20, 26 and then next season, you know, he'll head for that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Five year 380 or the four year old. You take the four year 294. Now let's go get that money. I mean, hey, you don't realize Shay only 26. Oh, Joe. Let's just say I wait the next year I'll be 27. I get that supermax 380, that's 32. I get me another supermax at 32, could hit me to 37. That's gonna probably be 453. 93. Okay, my bad. I added a million dollars to it. It's 293, not 294. Hey.

[Unknown]

93.94.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, listen, what can't I want to know, Ocho, what can't you do with 293 that you need 294 to absolutely do it?

[Unknown]

Thanks.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The same thing. When you. When you get that kind of money, ain't nothing. There ain't nothing that you want. Say, you know what, man? I want that house. It happened to be $294 million. I sure wish I'd have got that extra million before I want this car or I want whatever the case may be. Ocho, there ain't nothing that you can't do. That's what I tell guys all the time, bro. Okay, you like a couple of million dollars, $3 million. Okay. What can't you do with 17 million that you absolutely got to have to do with 20, right?

[Ocho]

Well, I agree. Hey, them dudes, these dudes want their money on though, they ain't cutting no. He ain't cutting them no slack, no discount. And he is well deserving, man. The.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The work that I take, I'm going, guess what? Because he can sign the 293 this off season or he can wait to. I'm signing that right now. Yeah. Hey, hey, hey, hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. I mean, I pray that contract don't die here because hey, we can. We can date it at a later date and time. But I want my signature on it. I'm taking that for cause. Okay, he signs the. He signs the next year. 26 off season. That's 76 million per year. Or I can take 73 three right now. Yeah, give me 73 three.

[Ocho]

I think if he. If he take the one now, he probably still be able to keep some of them dudes around, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Take that 76. Well, he still will they still be able to keep them dudes around him.

[Unknown]

Not everybody.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, hey, guess what? Because by that time, you're gonna have. That'll be check Chad will be coming up. Yeah, well, interesting to see what they got with Jalen Williams, because that's the thing. They. They want to do away with these super teams now, they'll have their burns rights. But the question is, guys, like, man, she making 76. If I stay here, I'm only gonna make 36. I can go somewhere else and make 50. That's why guys start the veggie don't show you.

[Ocho]

Hold on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, 36. Now, hold on. 36 times 4 to 72, that's 144. Or I can do 50 times 4. That's 200. Yeah. Now that's a big difference. That's a big difference, Joe. 144 versus 200. Yeah. We talk about a 56 million over four years. We talk about 56 million dollar difference. Yeah, that's 14 mil per year. Now, we talk about a whole different ballgame, but we ain't talking about 2 to 5 million.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We're talking about 56 million.

[Ocho]

Yeah, it's definitely a different. You know where it kind of puts me in mind. When I was playing in Phoenix before I left, you know, the year I had to play, the year I played with Nash, and that was the only year I played with him. It was my contract year. Because the start of that. The start of that season, they brought in Nash and Quentin Richardson. They paid them big money to come in. So they kind of put me on the back burner, like, all right, I know we said we was going to take care of you this summer, but we just going to wait till next summer not knowing that we was going to be the best team in the league at that time. Nobody, right? So they offered me 45 million uncan ocho. And I turned it down. Oh, they offered me 45. Oh, God. Turned it down. I said, nah, I feel like, you know, we played out. I can get more than 45. We played it out, and we end up being number one team. Now, we lost in the Western Conference finals, but I end up getting 70 to come here to Atlanta.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Atlanta, right. That's 25. That's 25.

[Ocho]

Yeah. That's a big difference.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Yeah, it is. Oh, hey, absolutely. Yeah.

[Unknown]

Hey, I got.

[Ocho]

I got.

[Unknown]

I got a better understanding now. Okay. That's how we get property. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. That how you get property. Right? There you go.

[Ocho]

There you go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And he tell you about that second contract that he signed in Atlanta? Double that. Double them up. He doubled him up on Joe. Joe boy.

[Unknown]

You got that bag boy.

[Ocho]

Okay. I work hard for mine, man. I work hard.

[Unknown]

Listen, hey, look, we all work hard. Some of us get paid differently though, you know?

[Ocho]

I understand, I understand. I understand. I understand. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

SGA will soon become the highest paid player in the NBA. Very well deserved. Guys put the time in, don't cause any problem. They play the game the right way. You can't be mad at somebody that having that success. Three teams with three players to win the MVP. The Thunder, Russ KD, Shea, 76ers. Dr. J won it, Wilt won it, and Joel Embiid won it. Lakers, man. What are we talking about here? Celtics, man. What we talking about, man? The Rockets, you know, they had Moses Malone won it. They had akeem elijah1 win it. They had James Harden winning.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And the Thunder has only been a team since 2008.

[Ocho]

Moses.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Moses won it. Moses for the Rockets won it twice. Won it once with the Sixes. First year that he won the championship. Obviously, Akeem won it and Harden won it. But the Celtics, when you look at the Celtics, I mean, you got Havlichek, I think Dave Cowan's won it. Bill Russell won it. The Lakers, you got Shaq. Kobe trying to tell you who else won it. Did Wilt win it? I don't think Jerry west won it. I would probably say, oh, Kareem, what the hell? And Magic, what the hell am I thinking? Kareem wanted three times. He wanted three with the Lakers and three with the Bucks. Magic won it three times. Kobe won one and Shaq won one. Jerry west didn't win it. Jerry, with the Finals MVP. The first year they had it initiated in 1969, he won the championship. They lost in seven games to the Celtics, but he was the first Finals mvp.

[Ocho]

Put some.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, oh, AI, with Sixes. Okay?

[Ocho]

You gotta put some respect on Sam Presley's name over there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, he's done a great job. Okay, But. But you. But you know what, Joe? He gonna have to close the deal now. Yeah, you gotta close the deal. Cause think about it. You got guys. I mean, think of. You got. You drafted three top 75 players.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And they. And. And two of the three won MVPs there. James Harden went to Houston and won it. But at some point in time, you got to close the deal. Now, we know you can select talent. And he selected these guys. Kd. Russ Harden make the trade for Shane. You drafted Jalen Williams. All these other guys. You make the trade for Lou Dort. All these other guys. You. Chet Holmgren, you drafted. You signed a Hardenstein frequency. You drafted Reggie Jackson. I mean, you've done a Sergeant Ibaka.

[Ocho]

Hey, it's only so much he gonna be able to do now. He gonna get you, he gonna put the pieces in place. But he can't go out there and play some of this. Gonna have to. The ownership gonna have to take up amongst the players to be able to come out and compete and be the last team standing. They've been the best team the whole entire regular season. Yes, for him he's done his job. He just gotta hope that they sustain and pull through on these playoffs. So I think at some point he'll. They'll eventually get one. If not this year, which I feel like is wide open. I don't feel like obviously no, this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Might be their best chance to get it too.

[Ocho]

It might be. It might be, man. But hey, it ain't gonna be easy. I promise you that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

KD. You look at KD, when he won the MVP, he averaged 32 points, seven rebounds, five and a half assists. He shot 50, 39, 87 shade in his MVP season. 32.75 rebounds, 6.4 assists, 5238 90. Russ, when he averages triple double. 31.6, 10.7, 10.4. 43% from the floor, 34% from the three. 85% from the free throw line. So great job. Sam Prestig. Congratulations Shay. Very, very well deserved the Thunder organization. Hey, you guys playing well. This is what the Clippers traded to get Paul George. They traded Shay Gilgis Alexander, Danilo Gallinari. 2022 first round pick. 2024 first round pick. 2026 first round pick. Miami's 2021 first round pick. Miami's 2023 first round pick. A lot of protected the Clippers. First round pick reistal in 23, 2023, they get the rights to a pick swap. This year they get the Clippers right to a pick swap. So they got 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 first round picks. Toothpick swaps for Shay, Gilgis and Gallinari for Paul George.

[Ocho]

They didn't. They didn't cease. I knew I. I've seen the word doc say he kind of knew Shay was going to be special. But they didn't see this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, not this. Yeah, I thought he gonna be good. Yeah, he gonna be good. But not. Come on now.

[Ocho]

They ain't see this because if they seen this, they wouldn't have got rid of him.

[Unknown]

And you know what?

[Shannon Sharpe]

They had to. But they had to because Kawhi was going to go to the Lakers. Do you really want Kawhi AD and LeBron and you're playing in the basement. At least Kawhi gave you some credibility now. At least you think because Kawhi has won, he's finals MVP twice, He's defensive player of the year twice. So he's giving you hope. He's giving the Clippers fans hope. That's why, you know, Uncle Dennis. I think that's his name. Uncle Dennis. And you make concessions. What you gave Kawhi to get it. You make those concessions.

[Unknown]

Yeah. Hey, hey, hey, Joe, you know, you think Kawhi would have. I mean, not Kawhi. You think SGA would have become who he became if he traded?

[Ocho]

That's. That's. I don't know neither. Because sometimes a lot of times when you get traded, it puts a little fire in you because, you know, as a player, you know, it's a business. But at the same time, you kind of feel like in the back of your mind, you don't want me. That team didn't really want me. All right, I'm going show him. I'm going to show them. And it makes you lock in a little harder to, you know, to. To prove. I don't want to say prove them wrong, but, you know, kind of prove.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I want to prove myself, right?

[Ocho]

To prove myself that I am the player who I think I am. And he's done that, bro, since he stepped in okc, he's made tremendous leaps and bounds every year, and that's what's impressed me the most.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because here's the thing, Ocho. Because the offense, Kawhi's gonna be first option. He's first option in okc. It's just like Brandon Ingram could. Brandon. No, he couldn't have been that with LeBron. Lebrandon. Ingram need to get his own team. Guys need to get the Julius Randle. No, he wouldn't have been that. He needs to be on his own team, right? Sometimes a guy needs to be on their own team. I'm the first option so I can grow. I can get. I'm only gonna. Ocho. I'm only gonna get so big when there's a lot of shade on me I need the sun to shine on.

[Unknown]

Me that's a good one. I like that. I like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I need the sun to shine on me so. No, not with Kawhi. No, he was not.

[Ocho]

He was not.

[Unknown]

Does that openly happen? No. Paul, you think basketball. Does it only happen in basketball where a co op?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, we've seen it. We see pre showmes. You saw Preece home when he left Baltimore, what he did when he went to Kansas City, right?

[Ocho]

All down.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause he was a backup. How could I do. I could only do so much. You coming in and you giving me five, I get five, seven carries a game right now I'm averaging five and a half, six yards of carry. But guess what happens when you give me. Now I'm getting 20, 25 carry. I'm getting 25, 30 touches, right? Okay. I go get you 28 touchdowns. I'll be a first team all pro a couple of years. Average 50 rush for 50 hundred yards. Was one of the two or three best backs in the league before I messed up my hip. Yeah, no, I can only do so much Ocho, when you don't give, when you don't allow me to get with X amount of touches.

[Unknown]

Yeah, but see, you know, you don't see the difference. You talk about in, in football you have to rely on them calling plays for you. You have to give you the ball. You have your opportunities come from offensive coordinator. Okay, we're calling this play for you. When I think about basketball and some of the greats that have opportunities to play together but in, in turn you guys say in order for them to grow, they need their own team. The game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Unknown]

The game of basketball is free flowing. There's one ball, but it's only five people on the court.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Unknown]

So I see it based on names of what I know they can do well. Hell, they should all be able to play together. All of you good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Mm mm.

[Unknown]

Shoot the ball with the hair. You motherfucker. Want to shoot it.

[Ocho]

All right. You see some guys who are, who are really good complimentary pieces, don't know it until you know that time has to prove himself. Meaning, you know, look at Julius Round. Even though he's a hell of a player, like he's been through enough to where he knows and understand. Okay, I'm playing with Ant man. I know he first option but I'm going to be the best Robin he could possibly have. You know what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Ocho]

As far as being aggressive making plays and some, some nights he gonna probably get off the slow starts. I gotta be the guy that pick it up. I feel like Randle is the guy who has really came into himself and he knows and understands his role and he's been playing it to the tee, especially in these playoffs. So that's kind of like one example I would definitely give. You know what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jalen Brunson, you think Jalen Brunson is this. If he's still in Dallas With Luka. No. He needed his own team.

[Ocho]

Okay, Primary ball handler.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It is what it is. Let's be real. He's not this. He needed his own team in order to flourish. That's okay.

[Unknown]

So that is dissimilar with kyrie leaving. Leaving LeBron and Cleveland is the same situation.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But see, they play different positions. You see Brunson and Luka play the same position. They're both guards. They both need the ball to be dominant.

[Ocho]

I agree.

[Shannon Sharpe]

See, LeBron and Kyrie can play off each other. It's just like Shaq and Kobe. Shaq and Kobe. It's easy to play because it's a big and a little. Magic and Kareem, it's a big and a little.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now we got two. We got two. We got. We got two threes. We got. We got two poor. We got. That's why you go back and look at the Lakers. They had Norm Nixon, they had Magic Johnson. Norm Nixon was a damn good point guard.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But in order for Magic to be. He didn't need to share. So what we're going to do, we're going to get rid of. We're going to trade Norm to the Clippers and we're going to go draft Byron Scott.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now we got a guy that can shoot, he can fill the lanes. We got James Worthy. So we got two guys that can fill. Guess what? We get into a half. Gore set. Okay. Hey, Ka' where you want it to the right or to the left?

[Ocho]

Right. Right. Hey, look, I think about when kyrie played with LeBron. He's like the ultimate two guard. Ocho. I don't necessarily look at him as a point. I think playing with LeBron. Cause LeBron's so unselfish, it allowed Kyrie to kind of naturally play that scoring role because he scores the ball with the best of them. And he was more of a two guard to me, playing with LeBron. And I don't know if he just wanted the ball in his hands to be able to make plays, but I thought that was the best, best position for him. You know, I thought they had a great, great connection, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Look at, look at Steph play with LeBron in the Olympics. Look at KD with LeBron playing Olympics and how easy open the shots they get.

[Ocho]

Yeah, that's what it's like. Yeah, right. You're right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Everybody's thinking LeBron is like, Damn, ain't never been this old. Because they guys got to worry about Steph or this guy got to worry about kd.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When you play with other great players and you're not playing the same position now, sometimes ego gets involved and you know, you want to, you know, hey, I want this to be. It's my team, it's this team. Is that whatever the case may be.

[Unknown]

But you think people be like that for real?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, for sure. Absolutely. Yeah. You saw that broker. Did you see what happened in New England? And you talking about, do you think it's like that? You was there? Of course it's like that.

[Unknown]

Oh, I mean, yeah, but that's, that's player and coach. That's, that's, that's different. I'm just.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Egos. The greater you are as an individual, the bigger the ego you have. I don't give a damn about the sport.

[Unknown]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Be it in corporations. If you don't, if you don't think Amazon and Google and all these companies are competing, you're fooling yourself. You're fooling yourself. Okay, Nvidia, don't do that. So you don't think Walmart and Costco are competing? Sam's Club and Costco competing? You don't think that. You don't think Walmart and Target compete? You don't think that. Yeah, you do. You know they are. Yeah, of course. That's. That's what makes us who we are. With your competition. There was always competition. You go back to whatever you had to do certain things in order to, to, to win the man, to win the, the father's heart. You had to. It was a competition. Well, this guy got. Hey, he got four goats, two cows. What you got? Ah, I got, I got some lentils. No, that ain't gonna work, bro. I'm sorry you lost. It is what it is. But this might be one of the worst trades in history. What's that? The shame for Paul George. Five first rounders and two pick swaps. So they still got a. They still got the Clippers first round in 26. That's not lottery protected. They still got a pig swap this year. First round.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Now Shay Shay goes to it. He's won an MVP and he mess around and win a title. Cause you know they win the title he's gonna be his finals mvp.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Hey look this the risk that you take.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got to.

[Ocho]

It's the risk that you take when you know when you are owner GM and you making these moves. You don't know how none of this is going to pan out. You don't you going based on Phil or how you think. How you think it's going to you know, pan out. And man I think all that is lit a fire on the SGA because since he's left the Clippers bro, he's done nothing but a sin. Got an MVP and he 2626 with an MVP on his belt possibly could win a title this year. I don't know what more you can ask from if you him to prove your worth and what you're capable of doing. So like I say man, my hat goes off to him because he. He seems like a guy who's not going to be complacent uncan Ocho. He seems like a dude who's going to come back and be even more relentless than he was this year.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

I'm looking forward to seeing his progression as a player and ultimately who he ends up becoming and what he's able to accomplish in this sport.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It is. I think the thing is I don't know how but I can speak to me.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Once I made the Pro Bowl I had an unquenchable thirst or desire to do it again because anybody can do it once right now because nobody expected that. You talk about a seventh round draft pick the mainly special teams player and he goes to the Pro bowl. Okay now when game plan for your black ass. What you gonna do?

[Ocho]

No different ball game when they game playing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh we got a. We gotta. We. We gotta deal with 85 man or we gotta deal with number two. We gotta deal with number seven.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's a whole different ball game. You might catch. You might catch a rabbit, sneak up on him, set him down, let him know you trying to catch it.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And let's see. Hey Joe, let me ask you this. What's going on with Americans because in the 50s, 50s, 60s, 70s and 80s, you had no foreign NBA MVPs. In the 90s, you had one Elijah one. In the 2000s, you had three. You had Nash one, two, Dirk one one. In 2010, you had one Giannis. Now in the 2000 and 20s, an American got one. You got Giannis started it off. And then you got Yoke, Yolk, embiid yolk. Not Shay.

[Ocho]

Man, listen, overseas, they grooming them dudes, man. They started playing Pro Ball at 13, 14 years old. They really, really learned the nuances of the game. They learned how to play versus just going out playing every day to play. Yeah. So when. So now, you know, they done caught up as far as. Talent wise.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Caught up with us as Americans.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And their best players might be better than their best Americans, so. Because when you look at it, it's hard to say what American player right now is better than Giannis, yoke or sga.

[Ocho]

It's hard, man. It's. Yeah, you're right. You're right, Hawk. It's hard. It's hard to say as Americans, what. What Americans are better than them at this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Go ahead. Don't y' all. I'll let you take. You want Jason Tatum, you want LeBron? I just want to know.

[Unknown]

I had. I looked up. I had to look up and think a little bit.

[Ocho]

A.

[Unknown]

A ain't nothing out there. Not right now.

[Ocho]

Ain't nothing that.

[Unknown]

Not right now.

[Ocho]

There other.

[Unknown]

There are other players that will compliment them, you know, but they. They look right. Right up under. Right up under. Not too far.

[Ocho]

Not.

[Unknown]

Not too far away now. Yeah, right up under.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, you got Yolk averaging a triple double. You got Giannis shooting 60% from the floor with 30, 12, and 5. You got Embiid doing what he's doing when he's healthy. You got Shay giving you almost 33 on 50 plus percent shooting.

[Ocho]

You gotta think, hey, these dudes probably grew up watching the NBA and wanting.

[Shannon Sharpe]

To be a part, of course.

[Ocho]

And they probably just. They just put in the work, man, and this is kind of how it's paid off.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think what David Stern envisioned, Joe, was having an American, having the Olympic dream team in 92. That opened up the world, make it global. That opened it up. Because out of that, you got A Dirt, and you got Giannis, and you got Steve Nash, and you got Jokic, and you got Luca, and you got sga. That's what you got. Because they thought that.

[Ocho]

Hold on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This is a world stage now.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So now guess what you got from Canada. You got Germany. You got Serbia. You got Slovenia. You got Greece.

[Ocho]

You got Frank.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got Wimby.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got Manu. Manu. You got Tony Parker.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah. It's. It's. Hey, look, the. The talent. The talent. The talent disparity ain't lopsided no more. You know what I mean? Like, everything is pretty much. Even if not lean more toward the Foreigner's way, you know, they've kind of come in and kind of took the league by storm. When you look up, you like, wow, like the top guys in the NBA right now, you know, outside of LeBron, you know, KD them dudes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Steph.

[Ocho]

Yeah, Steph. But, man, these young dudes, these dudes, they. They running the league right now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And because of being proud of that, I mean, the thing was. And see, and that's why I say, you know, it's not a foregone conclusion, because when the original Dream Team, they might have had four or five players. Out of all the other countries in the NBA, you go to any team now, they got four or five NBA players on that team. You go to Serbia, you go to. I mean, you go. You know, Greece got players. You got Canada. Canada is loaded with NBA players. You go to the friends team, they loaded with NBA players.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So all these teams that you're playing, where it was just one or two sprinkled in here and there, they got guys, and not only they're in the NBA, they're playing pro ball overseas. So even if they're not in the NBA, they're playing pro ball.

[Ocho]

It's not like it is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, hey, man, what you doing? What you doing for the next two weeks? Come on, we got to go to the Olympics. Ain't no more of that Ocho. These guys are actually playing. Shay hooked his team up with teammates up with Rolexes following his MVP announcement. Joe and Ocho, take a. Take a look at this video.

[Ocho]

Perfect timing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What time it is, y' all?

[Ocho]

Hey, that's all I ain't doing now.

[Unknown]

That's dead, baby.

[Ocho]

That's live.

[Unknown]

That's live.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I did that for the Ocho when I went to my first Pro Bowl. Yeah, I had. I think I had like $12,000. I got $12,500 if I made the Pro Bowl. I went and bought all the offensive linemen Rolexes. The only one that said he didn't want was. I asked. I said, john, you want a Rolex? He said, nah, T. I'm good. I asked Zim Zem like, nope, I'm good.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Rest of the guy I got the other guys Rolexes, had my name engraved. Told them thank you. Cause, you know. Cause me, Ocho, I believe that I could be wrong, but I damn sure believe they blocked harder when they know a pass was coming to old 84. Yeah, I do believe that.

[Unknown]

I like that. I like that.

[Ocho]

I listen.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They like. Come on, Sharpie.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know what I'm saying?

[Unknown]

Hey, I mean, that's different. I think about it.

[Ocho]

You know what?

[Unknown]

I've never been in a position, obviously, where I had to buy teammates, you know, playing a sport, gifts as a thank you. Now that you bring it back, to keep things in the perspective, in context, I've bought some watches. I bought some watches. And it's funny, now that we're not together, can I ask for them watches back?

[Ocho]

Nah.

[Unknown]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, hell no.

[Ocho]

It can't be.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No.

[Unknown]

My time is valuable and I need the time that you wasted. I need that watch back. So watch his.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you know, there's people sue for that, though. People sue to. About this. This guy. This lady is suing, talking about this guy wasted her youth, right? She 26.

[Ocho]

It is what it is, Ojo.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It is.

[Ocho]

We at a different time of era, man. They. Hey, yeah, man. Playing out here, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

But that's a great gesture, Shay. Congratulations, teammates. Congratulations. Well deserved, huh?

[Unknown]

I think that's dope. That's real live, man. That's real live.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The NBA announced Anthony Edwards has been fined 50k for using profane language during the media interview following the T Wolf loss to the Thunder in game one. He said, I only took 13 effing shots. That's.

[Unknown]

They finding for that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, but Ocho, we talked about that last night. I said ocho and only had 13.

[Unknown]

Shots and he didn't even realize it. Cause he. Look at. Look at his response.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Ocho]

So you know what that mean.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He gonna put my gun in the mall.

[Unknown]

He finna go crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Hey, but look, O Joe. And just sometimes he may be a little too raw for tv, you know, it's like he be sitting there talking to his homeboys, you know what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he at the barbershop. Yeah, he for real, though, Joe for real.

[Ocho]

I know he be right there on espn. They got him tapped in. Hey, look, he. He be lost and gone.

[Unknown]

Hey, Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Joe. That's what happened to Oo and I. We get on here. Oh, I forget. Like, damn, I got a microphone and camera in front of me. I can't listen.

[Unknown]

Hey, hey. And we. We will always remain the same. Authentically yourself. That's why that's why it's called Nightcap for a reason. And I think people not even realizing this ain't linear tv. This ain't television. This is something completely different. So you're gonna get something different every time you tune in to watch. Ain't no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what we come on late at night.

[Unknown]

Cause I. Hey, Joe, I'm gonna be honest with you. I don't know what I'm gonna say. And sometimes when it's time to do the show, I don't know where I'm gonna be.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jon. I don't know who I'm gonna be.

[Ocho]

Hey, it's like them late night videos may come on. You hope them kids in beg of.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

What's gonna come across that tv?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. If you're in late night videos, you come on mtv. That's when they showed you the raunchy stuff. I want my mtv. I mean, hey, that's how like damn. I don't know that that. That came up, but it sure shouldn't have came out. The Sixers are reportedly not looking to trade Paul George. The Sixers lucked into the number three pick next month's draft, and everyone will be watching to see what they do. There have already been reports suggesting affiliates open and shopping the third over. And Jake Fisher is reporting that it's more likely the Sixers trade down not out of the draft entirely. Another fair far more important tidbit. The Philadelphia may not actually be looking to trade pg. Recent reports suggest that the Sixers will be looking to explore George's trade in the market conjunction with the draft are misread. There have been no indication that they're looking to package Georgia in the number three pick to move him on his own. I'm trying to figure out. So if they trade.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Who.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who and what they gonna trade him for Joe.

[Ocho]

Cause that contract he got is huge.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Ocho]

And you're gonna have to get about six players back for him because.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And he signed up. What, he got a player option too?

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And he gonna pick that up?

[Ocho]

Yeah, you know he is. He'd be a fool not to. So with.

[Unknown]

With Joe. With Joe, we should all say what but trade him or keep him.

[Ocho]

Well, here's my thing. What Joel gonna do? What is he. What is he.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's. Everything is contingent on him. Ocho.

[Ocho]

Don't miss anything, Ocho. Because if he can't, if he can't gonna get up off him. We might. Well, I mean just, just, just fess up and say, look. And we, we probably did make a couple Bad investments. But we. We need to try to get up off these. Right? You know what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

So if Joel can't come back healthy to where you can compete, because everything is really lies in his. In his hands.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Everything is contingent on him.

[Ocho]

Yeah. So I. I don't know, man.

[Unknown]

I don't know.

[Ocho]

Damn. Got some. They got some young, promising talent.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I love Tyrese Maxey.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And.

[Ocho]

And the one, the little guard from Duke who got hurt.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. McClain.

[Ocho]

Yeah. He came in ball and, you know, in the minutes that he got, the opportunities that he got, he took advantage of him. He showed me something that I ain't think he could do. Like he. He put up some. He put up some big numbers in that little stretch.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

When he was playing, he playing some good balls, so they got some good pieces. Like I said, man, the injuries play a huge part of people's legacy, obviously team's, you know, season. So if Joel Embiid can't get back to the dominance that we've accustomed to watching him play at. Right. Billy ain't competing for nothing, man. The volume.

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Unknown]

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[Ocho]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Unknown]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Trey Farrow]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Trey Farrow]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Trey Farrow]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Trey Farrow]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Trey Farrow]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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