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Nightcap Hour 1: Rams STUMBLE vs INJURED 49ers + Dillion Gabriel DISSES Shedeur?! Unc & Ocho ROAST CJ Stroud for feeling OLD
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Colin Coward
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Colin Coward
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- [02:27]
Julian Edelman
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Shannon Sharpe
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Chad Ochocinco
Foreign.
- [04:38]
Shannon Sharpe
And I'm sorry that it had to. It almost ended like the Dallas Cowboys game did. But but the 49ers defense rose to the occasion when they absolutely, positively had to. And they got a stop on fourth down and they keep the Rams from cashing in on the third down and fourth down and they win the ball game 26, 23 in overtime. Both quarterbacks were dealing. We'll get to that in just a moment. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y' all know who I am? I'm your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp, my partner and co host. He's Liberty City's own Bengals Ring of Fame honoree. Madden Rating adjuster, Former Pro Bowler All Pro He's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. And do us a favor, go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you you get your podcast from we'd like to thank each and every one of you for your support, your eyes, your ears and your word of mouth. Because of you, Nightcap has become the phenomena that we've become and OO and I cannot thank you enough for your support. Hopefully it continues in the future. Make sure you check out Shay by La Portier now. If you go into a store and you live in a state or city and it doesn't have Shay by La Portier, order it online. We'll ship it directly to your door. We have it in stock. Plus please drink responsibly and stay safe. Also, check out my media company SH Shay Media on all of his platforms and my clothing company, 84 with 84 being spelled out. That link is also in the chat the 49ers banged up as beat up as they were, they won a ball game. Okay, let me go and get to this. I got one more thing guys. OO Night OO Nightcap has been nominated for two Signal awards under the genre Best Sports Podcast and BET and Video Best Video Podcast Co Host teams guys, make sure y' all go vote for us. I don't know what we're doing right now. I don't know where we are in the voting, but I know what it was. The support that you've given Night Captain Club Shake already know what's going to happen. We know what time it is. 49ers beat the Rams in overtime. Ocho by the score of 2623. 49ers improved to 4 and 1, take over sole possession of first place in the NFC west while the Rams fall to three and two at the goal line. Three down, three down, three points and about to score. Kyron Williams he fumbled. Great punch out by the 49ers. They get the ball stuffed up because it looked like the 49ers are going to potentially win the thing in regulation.
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- [08:39]
Rob Gronkowski
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- [09:43]
Colin Coward
Hi, it's Colin from the Colin Coward podcast. That would make sense that I would be the host of the Colin Coward podcast. I mean, that's the way I see it. I've been around long enough to know quality when I see it. Or in this case, when I taste it. Tito's handmade vodka. Good stuff. No flash, no gimmick. Smooth, clean tasting, made the right way. I like things that are built to last. A great team, a well run organization. Same goes for my vodka, Tito's. Made in Austin, Texas. Real care, attention to detail, distinct, crisp taste. I was just telling my wife the other day, Tito's is the one vodka. It has a completely distinct taste. Been my go to for years, so I like to keep it simple. Tito's Soda, one lime, lot of ice, refreshing, easy summer, winter, spring. Totally versatile. Always works. Listen, baseball season's here. Your team's going to play 162 games. A perfect time to kick back with some Tito's. It's what I pour. You should too. Distilled and bottled by 5th Generation Inc. Austin, Texas 40% alcohol by volume. Savor responsibly.
- [10:45]
Julian Edelman
This is Julian Edelman from Games With Names. Football is back. That means it's tailgate time and this season the only meat going on the grill is Deets and Watson. Some of my favorites are the Black Angus Dietz dogs, the Italian style chicken sausage and and the Asiago spinach chicken sausage, just to name a few. Oh, and I love the jalapeno mustard. It's flavor packed and you could just tell Dietz and Watson uses the highest quality meats in every bite. Dietz and Watson was born in Philly in 1939 and they've been doing it the right way ever since. Visit dietzen.com the right way to learn more about about the deets difference 49ers.
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Shannon Sharpe
Hold him out of the end zone there and then on fourth down when the rubber really needed to meet meet the road because it seems to me they were going to go for it. I don't think they were going to play for the tie like we got Sunday night between the packers and the Cow packers of the Cowboys. It seems like Sean, Sean McVeigh was hell bent. He wanted to win this game, Mocho. He really, he wasn't playing for no time and he went for it. The question that I have for you, do you like Sean McVay going forward on fourth down or does he kick the field goal and give the 49ers because the next score wins the ball game?
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, I kind of like, I like him trying to go for it. I want to get this game over with. We've had some mistakes, we've had some drops, we've had some penalties. We fought back to get back into the game and I really want to end it right now. I want to end it so I have no problem with him going forward on fourth and one trying to end that game. Listen, it can go one or two ways. Either you get it or you don't. You didn't get it. The fact that he even had the balls and the gall to even go for it in that situation says a lot. And he's one of the few coaches in the NFL who can go for it and take that chance like a Dan Campbell, you know he's one of the few can do it.
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Shannon Sharpe
I love that. I loved it also. Ocho. I don't. I'm not playing for a tie. I'm down there, I'm in a great position. And you look, look, you had an opportunity. You're right there at the goal line. You get a punch out, and now you're down again. And guess what? Oo. If I kick the field goal, it's 20. It's 23, 20. Next score wins the ball, wins the game. And the 49ers are getting the ball back. Now you can say, well, they might fumble it. Nah, I'm not taking that chance. I'm down there. I believe in my offensive line. And. And. And. But look, Robert Salah guess right, he sold out on that side, and they stuffed him. I mean, it wasn't even close, Ocho. I mean, they ain't. I mean, as soon as it happened, bam, Bam, guess what? 49ers start spilling out on the field. They know it. I mean, the Rams ain't no. I would. Hey, let's get a measurement. The fish is already like, it's over going the other way. And these quarterbacks were dealing tonight, ocho. Matt Jones, 33 of 49, 342, two touchdowns, no interception. Matthew Stafford, 30 of 47, 389, three touchdowns, no interceptions. I mean, it really was a clean game. With the exception of that one fumble by Kyron Williams. That probably is no way to know. But it didn't help them. No. I tell you what, we can't say it cost him the game, Ocho, but it damn sure did not help them win the game. And the 49ers have to feel good losing a game like they lost on Sunday on a short week. You're down, Purdy. You're down. All these guys. Bosa is not coming back. Look at all the guys that they had injured tonight. And to have guys step up and rise to the occasion and play as well as they did on a very, very short week. Look, I understand. Oo it's not like they had to go cross country. Look, California. But still, you get a short day, a day less to work because you have to travel. But I thought the 49ers, given the situ. Given the totality of the situation that they're in, I thought they played extremely well tonight, Ocho. And I think Kyle Shanahan should be very, very proud of his ball club because they did play well tonight, and they found a way to get a win against a division opponent.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Not only Should Kyle Shanahan be proud of his ball club? He needs to take a bow himself with the play calling. Some of the stuff he did with all the injuries that you just talked about that have mounted up. No Ricky Purcell, no Brandon Ayuk, no George Kittle from off.
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Shannon Sharpe
Juwan Jennings is out.
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Chad Ochocinco
Juwan Jennings is out. And the.
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Shannon Sharpe
Excuse me, Bosa is not coming back.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But from, from an offensive standpoint.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Chad Ochocinco
Brother Kendrick Bourne. Brother Kendrick Bourne.
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Shannon Sharpe
I know you're gonna see this career career night, Ocho.
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Chad Ochocinco
So salute on a career night. Obviously had some drops last game to have a short week and come back and rebound and perform for Mac Jones to be able to have the confidence they. To keep getting and feeding you the ball. And. And another thing I want to talk about, the quarterback situation. Tonight's game is a perfect example of the definition of next man up. When you look at a game like tonight and see what Mac Jones is doing, having a resurgence in his career. Which is why I also think where quarterback go, situation matters. We saw Mac Jones do it tonight. We see Daniel Jones do it in Indianapolis. We seeing Baker Mayfield do it over there. Goddamn. In Tampa Bay. Sam Donald going from Minnesota to Seattle and still doing it. Now, I think where quarterbacks go and what they have surrounding them, including those calling the plays, is so important to.
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Shannon Sharpe
A quarterback success the most.
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Chad Ochocinco
Hey. Yeah. And that, dude, they, they look really good. This is a really, really good game. The Rams didn't really help themselves either with some of the drops, some of the mistakes, some of the fumbles. But hey, this, this was probably one of the better, one of the better Thursday night games we've gotten so far.
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Shannon Sharpe
The quarterbacks were dealing. Ocho, look, I, you know, I'm not big on hyperbole. And I said this at the time.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yes, sir.
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Shannon Sharpe
I thought the 49ers should have drafted Mac Jones because it's hard for me to. I really can't, I really can't differentiate between the two.
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Chad Ochocinco
Right.
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Shannon Sharpe
Are you trying to tell me that you believe if Kyle, if Mac Jones had been in this system for the entirety of his career? Because we saw what he did when he had Josh. Josh. Josh McDaniels. We saw what he did year one.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
And you're team to the playoffs was a Pro bowl player. Are you telling me if he has Kyle Shanahan for four years, he's not as good, if not better than Brock Pie? And guess what? If you take. And I get, I get why they didn't because when you look, when you look at a guy nothing jumps off at you. He doesn't have Lamar Jackson's speed, he doesn't have Josh Allen's height, he doesn't have Patrick Mahomes arm. So why would we take a quarterback that, that really Ocho is just. He's average with the third pick in the draft. But what you wouldn't have had to do is give up all the draft compensation. So imagine as well as they do drafting what you can put around it. And guess what? Even if he doesn't pay it out, Ocho, you go back and you get you another quarterback or you could go back and get you another quarterback and still guess what? You don't have to spend damn near $300 million.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Me personally, I believe, I believe Matt Jones in this system, I'm not talking about in this system with Kyle Shanahan with all think about all the pieces that he had OO oh yeah. When he has Kittle, when he has Debo, when he has IU, when he has Jennings, when he had Christian McCaffrey and he got a Trent Williams playing at playing Trent, not this guy that's beat up. He's trying to work himself back in in the conditioning and in his form. It's hard for me to believe that, that, that Matt Jones is not as good if not, if not better than Purdy and for me I would have taken him. But I understand why they didn't. Because the measurables when you look at the Mocho you like that is not the third pick in the draft and you draft took a guy with the third pick in the draft because of the measurables but it was the seventh round draft pick that really saved Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch's job.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Because you give up that kind of compensation Ocho and that guy doesn't work out. And he didn't work out.
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Chad Ochocinco
Right.
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Shannon Sharpe
You gone.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
What you think you think? What you think? Do you think, do you think Mac Jones Purdy similar. Purdy is better, substantially better, A little bit marginally better. What you think?
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Chad Ochocinco
It's hard to really decipher between the two on who's better or not because when Brock Purdy is in there he's the rhythm and time and quarterback as well. When Mac Jones is in there he's a rhythm and time and quarterback. Well both suit the system very well. Really. Not dual threat. Not dual threat, quarterback.
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Shannon Sharpe
Hell no. Dual.
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Chad Ochocinco
They are your. Your typical system west coast type off of the quarterbacks that are dropped back sometimes in a shotgun. And they deliver everything off of timing and they may. They make great throws and they're accurate. They're accurate enough. What they lack in being able to escape the pocket or use their legs running, they make up for in other areas.
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Shannon Sharpe
Go ahead, finish your thought.
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Chad Ochocinco
No, I was just gonna say they both play well doing exactly what's asked of them in that specific system.
- [19:50]
Shannon Sharpe
When you're not that big as far as physical size, Ocho right, six four. You don't have rocket arm. You don't have Lamar Jackson's mobility or Michael Vic's mobility, you have to have great anticipatory skills. Yes. Look at Joe Montana. Joe was not overwhelming. Didn't have the big time arm. He wasn't the greatest athlete, but his anticipation skills was tremendous. Brock Pie, great anticipatory skills. M. Jones, great anticipatory skills. Because you got to be. Because you don't have the ball to wait. You've got to get the ball out. You have to anticipate where the guy's going to be and like, you know what? Have the trust. I trust the system. I trust the guy that I'm throwing to that he's going to be where he's supposed to be. I understand the defense. I know where I'm vulnerable. I know where guys are going to disperse to. I can let this ball go. That's just me. You can't convince me that Brock Purdy is substantially better than Mike Jones. I refuse to believe that. And I believe in the same circumstances, if I had Matt Jones with Kyle Shanahan, I believe whatever fate the 49ers had gone through over the last four years, that same fate would have happened to them with Mac Jones. Ocho.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Because that we what we saw the small sample of Mac Jones right now, the since Purdy's been out, it's been the exact same. The offense has been efficient, the office up and down the field. They put up points and it showed the night to where. Next man up. That's why I said to start the show off is this was the definition of next man up and not missing the beat. Now, I wish other teams were able to do what we're seeing tonight from the 49ers. Hell, like hell. We got the goddamn Detroit Lions here in Cincinnati at Paycor Stadium when Joe Burrow goes down. I wish we still had the same type of success they had tonight where you don't miss a beat just because your quarterback goes down. But unfortunately it's a little different. It's a Little different from.
- [21:54]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Cause your guy ain't that good, and I tried to tell you that. And you got the. You got the Bengals fans. Your Bengals, you got them all hyped. I trust Jake.
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Chad Ochocinco
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Slow down, slow down. Let, let's, let's, let's. There.
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Shannon Sharpe
There.
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Chad Ochocinco
There are other. There are other elements.
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Shannon Sharpe
I don't want you to talk about no other team. As a matter of fact, why are you talking. I don't want you to say foot or ball. You got another week. You can still got, let's see, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Oh, and if you don't win on Sunday, it's another week.
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Chad Ochocinco
I gotta. You know what? I got a question for you.
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Shannon Sharpe
What?
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Chad Ochocinco
You understand how the football gods work. You know, when it comes to the game of football in the NFL, it's week to week.
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Shannon Sharpe
Well, this ain't gonna be y' all week. This ain't gonna be y' all week.
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Chad Ochocinco
What happens if.
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Shannon Sharpe
Just.
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Chad Ochocinco
I'm just hypothetically speaking, chat. Those in the chat. Hypothetically speaking would happen if the bangle shocked the world and beat the Lions.
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Shannon Sharpe
If a dog had a square butt, he poop blocked. But it's round, so we know how it will come out, don't we? Don't we know what come out of your joke?
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Chad Ochocinco
I'm just saying. I could be optimistic. I could be optimistic. Now, I'm not saying we gonna win. I'm just saying, hypothetically speaking, if the football of the football gods decide to shock the world, I'm just saying.
- [23:03]
Shannon Sharpe
Nah, he busy that day. He ain't gonna be watching. I promise you. God ain't no bingo fan. He ain't watching that game. He ain't watching that mask at Paycor Stadium next.
- [23:15]
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, listen, I don't know about massacre, but we gonna put up a fight.
- [23:20]
Shannon Sharpe
Whoa, whoa. If the fate is the same, what. What does it matter?
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Chad Ochocinco
I mean, listen, I got to have some type of. I think we gonna be all right. I believe in us. That's all that matters. There's a reason I'm in town. I done had that pep talk with them boys. I think we gonna be all right.
- [23:39]
Shannon Sharpe
Mac Jones, after the game, was asked after game about playing Hobble. He replied, I'm good. I just can't show it. That's on me. I'll be fine. That's what happens when you don't practice for a couple of weeks. So that's my fault, you know, look, quarter. It's hard for quarterbacks. There are other positions. Oo, yeah. That can mis practice. And you can't tell when they get into a game.
- [24:01]
Chad Ochocinco
Right.
- [24:02]
Shannon Sharpe
It's hard for a quarterback. That's why a lot of quarterbacks like to wear their pads. Ocho. Hey, they tell us to take our pads off, we can't wait. We can't leave them back.
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Chad Ochocinco
Stay with them.
- [24:13]
Shannon Sharpe
Quarterbacks like to throw their pants because guess what they gonna throw with their pads, they gonna have. So they want the same feel, they want the same rhythm as if they're throwing right with pads. Because that's how they're gonna throw in the game.
- [24:25]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
- [24:25]
Shannon Sharpe
And so Mag's like, you know what? His fighting senses probably wasn't tingling. Look at the next four games, Ocho. Week six at Bucks, then week seven at home. Home to the Falcons. Week eight at Texans, Week nine at the Giants. So it's not like they got an easy schedule coming up. Now. I don't know how long Brock Purdy is going to be out, but they look, they got 10 days. So that's a long time for Purdy. He was out this week. Oo so he gets. He got an extra. You know, he basically got two weeks because he hadn't, you know, probably done anything since Sunday's game. Matt Jones, he gets 10 days because they're off until, you know, they don't play Sunday, obviously. They play a week from Sunday. So they get ample time to get some of the guys, some of these guys that's banged up. Oo they get an opportunity to get them back healthy. You see M. Jones fit. We got that. We got that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [25:18]
Chad Ochocinco
That red. That red with a little burgundy in there.
- [25:20]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Let's see what. Let's see if it. Can we pull that video.
- [25:23]
Chad Ochocinco
He was clean now. Hey, listen. That's a man that came for business now.
- [25:34]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [25:34]
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- [26:05]
Chad Ochocinco
Lenovo.
- [26:09]
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- [27:12]
Rob Gronkowski
This is Rob Gronkowski from Dudes on Dudes. Anyone else feeling hungry? Because Applebee's just cooked up the ultimate option. Play with their new ultimate trio deal. You can choose from three of their delicious appetizers and pair them up with three sauces for just 14.99. Craft your perfect trio from over 80,000 different combinations in this flavor packed plate with built for one or to share if you're generous. You can stick with the classic pairings like boneless wings and buffalo sauce, mozzarella sticks and marinara, or brew pub pretzels and white cheddar beer cheese. Or you can spice things up and try some unexpected combinations like dipping chicken wonton tacos and their honey Dijon mustard. The choice is yours. The ultimate trio is the perfect way to hit all your cravings in one plate and turn appetizers into an entree. It's time to head to your neighborhood, Applebee's or order online today. Now that's eating good in the neighborhood.
- [28:15]
Colin Coward
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Julian Edelman
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Hey, that's a man. Hey, that's. That's two face.
- [30:10]
Shannon Sharpe
That's a man. Be hanging around brothers.
- [30:14]
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, he clean. That's a man that came for me.
- [30:17]
Shannon Sharpe
I like that. I like that. I like that.
- [30:19]
Chad Ochocinco
Matt, as clean as he looked, that's exactly how he played.
- [30:22]
Shannon Sharpe
He played his ass off tonight.
- [30:24]
Chad Ochocinco
Played exactly like that. He scared me a little bit when he went down and I see.
- [30:27]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But he looks like he grabbed his knee brace, Ocho.
- [30:32]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. I thought it was pinching him a little bit.
- [30:34]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, yes. That's the time when you get tackled.
- [30:36]
Chad Ochocinco
The goddamn knee break start pinching you. So when they're pulling this calf, I was like, what? It must be either either the knee brace is pinching him or he cramping one or the other.
- [30:46]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. And the little calves, he got a damn. That won't even hurt nothing because he got. First of all, he got a knee brace on. So that calf is not as strong as what it needs to be because he wears that knee brace, Ocho. You know what I'm saying? You got to build strength back up in that calf and in order for it to. But he played. He played his tail off. I mean, both quarterbacks play well. Don't get me wrong. Both quarterbacks played well. My concerns with the 49ers, Ocho, without both in the game, they really couldn't generate no pressure.
- [31:14]
Chad Ochocinco
Pressure.
- [31:15]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, they really couldn't generate any pressure. And the last thing you want a guy like Matthew Stafford to have is time.
- [31:21]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
- [31:22]
Shannon Sharpe
Because he was Dealing man, he was that joke. Throw that Ocho. Can he throw it away? I might take that back. I want to play with Matthew Stafford. We keep talking about shadow, if you could come back and play. And we keep talking about my mahomes and Burrow and Herbert and Allen and this one man, give me more for man Stafford. Why y' all out there bumping them?
- [31:41]
Chad Ochocinco
You talking about you gotta think Now, Matthew Stafford is a legitimate gunslinger. It's only about four, four, maybe four quarterbacks in the league right now that have the kind of ball Matt Stafford throws with that kind of velocity and can make any throw on the field, any throw, even even though Aaron Rodgers is old, he's one of them. Matt Stafford is another. I'm trying to think gunslinger, gunslinger.
- [32:06]
Shannon Sharpe
You see the difference? See, when you. When I think of gunslingers, I think guys that'll take unnecessary risk. That's really not what Aaron Rodgers is. Now, Aaron Rodgers can make every throw. Matthew Stafford can make every throw right. Change arm angles. Both guys can change arm angles. But sometimes if you look at the interceptions for Matthew Stafford, you look at the interceptions for Aaron Rogers and you'll see a vast difference because Rogers was really never willing to take unnecessary at risk. Matthew Stafford, he believed he could throw a football through a keyhole. He damn sure. How you gonna get a football through a keyhole? Let me show you. Yeah, and he would try it. Now he's gotten better. Now, can you imagine how what he would have been had he had Sean McVeigh his whole career, but he could throw it oo. I mean, he can flat spin the ball. And now I expect him. When I watch the game, I want to see one time where he look over here and throw the ball over there.
- [33:00]
Chad Ochocinco
Wait a minute. He did that against. He did it.
- [33:02]
Shannon Sharpe
He did that. He didn't do it tonight.
- [33:04]
Chad Ochocinco
He didn't do it tonight. I remember he did it against the Bengals in the Super Bowl.
- [33:08]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Oh, he did it. He did it. He did it. Two weeks in a row. He cut and he's running down the field because he's miked up. Don't look at my eyes. Don't look at my eyes. Don't effing look at my eyes.
- [33:18]
Chad Ochocinco
Right?
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Shannon Sharpe
But hey, but this was this. I think when the NFL envisioned. Look, they tried, they try to make these game, division match, divisional matchups o show so they're really close. Nobody's having to go a great distance, right. You don't want somebody on the west coast having to go east all the.
- [33:36]
Chad Ochocinco
Way to the right, right?
- [33:37]
Shannon Sharpe
Right. East coast having to go west or you let it be close proximity. It's already tough enough playing. I can just imagine because I didn't really start to feel good till Friday. So I can imagine playing a game on Sunday, then turn around playing a damn another game on. On Thursday. Yeah. And especially as you got older, Ocho, it took longer and longer to get that old man up out.
- [33:57]
Chad Ochocinco
Need you to recover.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. But this was, this was an unbelievable, unbelievable ball game. Thank you NFL. Thank you Rams. Thank you, 49ers because you guys played your ass off on a very, very short week. This is the type of game that we want to see on us on a Thursday.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Not some bull job, you know. Hey, this is what, this is what we're looking for. Oh yeah. See M Final stats. He had 22 carries, 57 yards, eight receptions for 82 yards, 30 touches, almost 140 yards of total offense. And that's what he gives you, his ability to catch the ball out of the backfield. You can line him up in the slot, you can line him up out wide. Obviously, you know, you can handle the ball. He can run between the tackle. The people like I was like, guys, if you watch Stanford's offense, why are you going to be surprised that he can run the ball between the tackles? Because that was a pro offense. He ran between the tackles. That's what he ran. They ran counter and power all the time in Stanford. He's not a. Look, I understand he's small in stature. You look at a guy who is probably five' eight, maybe 205, but don't let that fool you. He run behind his pass. Yes. I mean, you. The amount of touches that he has. Oh, yeah. I mean, the body's gonna break down because like I said, he not Derrick Henry. He's not 245, 250, he's not one of these bruising backs. But he can run with power, obviously. He can run with speed, he can catch the football. I mean, he's, he's multi talented. But I'm not surprised that he had the success or he's having the success that he's had in the NFL based on what I saw him do in college, which was run between the tackles because that's what you want to see. Because it's hard to just make a living in the NFL. Oo. Just running outside the tackle. You have to run in that box.
- [35:39]
Chad Ochocinco
You got to. And, and, and most of the time, especially with a running back like Christian, Christian McAffrey, he can manipulate the first man and not allow him to get a clean hit most of the time. And he's falling forward.
- [35:53]
Shannon Sharpe
I remember when Barry was coming out there, like he's a little undersized. I said, well, who gonna hit him though?
- [35:58]
Chad Ochocinco
I, I, I hate, I hate, I hate those.
- [36:02]
Shannon Sharpe
We have never seen anything like Barry, though. I mean, I, I understand what they're saying, Ocho, because we had never seen anything like Barry. We've never seen a guy like that, that ran that style. Man, your coach will cut, boy. Stop all that dancing. No, hit the hole. Hit the hole. They, for whatever reason, they allow Barry Sanders to be Barry Sanders.
- [36:21]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
- [36:22]
Shannon Sharpe
And I remember Barry Swizzer told a story. Thurman Thomas was the starting running back in front of Barry, right. And, and Bar Wilson say, look, don't hurt the starter because the backup. You don't want to play against the backup, Right? Who says don't hurt the starter because the backup. And they didn't.
- [36:40]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
- [36:41]
Shannon Sharpe
Go back and look at what he did against OU. Go back, man. Barry, Ojo. Barry have games of 300.
- [36:46]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, yeah.
- [36:47]
Shannon Sharpe
If you held Barry to 170 yards, you would.
- [36:52]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. That's crazy.
- [36:53]
Shannon Sharpe
You lucky you don't get three.
- [36:56]
Chad Ochocinco
That's crazy.
- [36:58]
Shannon Sharpe
That man, that man had 27, 2600 yards and 12 games. 11 games. Oh, that's, that's, you're never gonna see that again.
- [37:08]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, we've, we've seen nothing like that. They've been, there have been glimpses of players with the same skill set.
- [37:15]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [37:15]
Chad Ochocinco
Lashan McCoy.
- [37:17]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [37:17]
Chad Ochocinco
Not as explosive because Barry could do all that and he get up out of there and be gone. Bijan Robinson has a bit of that, that lateral movement, you know, miss. But it's not like Barry was a.
- [37:31]
Shannon Sharpe
Two foot bar with a two foot oo. He would stop, he would jump and start with two feet and come to.
- [37:36]
Chad Ochocinco
Balance in two feet. Yep.
- [37:38]
Shannon Sharpe
And go on again and get up out of. Barry was looking to. Barry would lose. He would make a 3 yard loss look like the most beautiful 22 yard gain you've ever seen in your life. You're like, oh, boy. You see bad man. It's second and 13. Don't worry about that. Don't even worry, Ojo. Don't worry about that. Don't worry about it. But did you see that run, man, he shook eight people. It should have been a loss of 15. He only lost three.
- [38:06]
Chad Ochocinco
Could you imagine, could you imagine Barry Sanders right now with an offensive line like.
- [38:11]
Shannon Sharpe
No.
- [38:12]
Chad Ochocinco
Like Philly.
- [38:13]
Shannon Sharpe
God ain't finna give you all of that on your. Dang. So you want that man to have the Cowboys offensive line that Emmett ran behind.
- [38:20]
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, my God. That wouldn't be fair.
- [38:23]
Shannon Sharpe
No. And he probably wouldn't know what to do. Bad. Was used to running and they had no blocking. Yeah. So he wouldn't know what to do. Like Barry. Like, man, you mean I'm supposed to. I'm supposed to run it? Run through there? Yeah, if you want to. But no, I thought Christian McCaffrey played well. I thought everybody for the 49ers played well. This was a really clean game with the exception of the punch out. And sometimes Ocho, you know, it comes down when you do something. All turnovers are not created equal.
- [38:51]
Chad Ochocinco
No.
- [38:51]
Shannon Sharpe
When you turn the ball over is the. Is. Is the most important thing. Where you turn the ball over is the second most important thing. So with that being said, man, you look, I. I feel bad because Kyron Williams has turned himself into a very good running back.
- [39:08]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
- [39:08]
Shannon Sharpe
You can run it out of the backfield. He reminds you a lot of Christian McCaffrey because he can do a lot of the same things. Ojo. He can run it. He can run inside, he can run outside, he can catch it. You see. Called a couple of touchdowns. But that. That turnover and then they got that late stop. So it was a very clean game. I love the way the game was played. The referees. I didn't see a whole. I didn't feel anything that I feel like I should get out of. Like, damn ref. He should have let him play with that. I thought the refs. The refs called things that were there, but let them play. The quarterbacks were exceptional. Really a clean game with the exception to that one turnover. So there's really nothing to be mad about on a Thursday night game. This to. To get this kind of performance from the two teams. I think. I think. Look, I understand if you're a Rams fan, you're disappointed your team lost in the 49ers. You're excited your team won. But as a fan of the National Football League, I think everybody wins tonight.
- [40:00]
Chad Ochocinco
And, and. And again, tonight, I have to give another salute to Kendrick Bourne. Boy, you look good. Boy, you look good. The definition of next man up.
- [40:17]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, Ocho, but that. You know, the thing is, it's hard for me to believe that he was with. Wasn't he with the. The Patriots?
- [40:25]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. New England.
- [40:26]
Shannon Sharpe
It's hard for me to believe they got four better receivers than him.
- [40:29]
Chad Ochocinco
But. But you got to think about this situation matters.
- [40:34]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [40:35]
Chad Ochocinco
Schemes matter. The play calling matters.
- [40:39]
Shannon Sharpe
Now you got a new staff in there. Plus, yeah.
- [40:41]
Chad Ochocinco
You missing some of your key players. Juwan Jennings is out. Rica, per se. I'm not sure if I'm saying it's his last name. Right. I'm butchering his last name. He's out. Brandon Ayuka's out. Next man up. And when the opportunities presents itself, even with the drop tonight, he still had a career night and I hope he continues to build on that next week. Maybe they give him a little bit more.
- [41:03]
Shannon Sharpe
Maybe. Well, hell, I don't. Well, if Jennings coming back, is. Is IU coming back. I mean, you ain't got no choice.
- [41:10]
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, not now. Yeah. Not come back.
- [41:14]
Shannon Sharpe
So with that being said, don't you. They got no choice. And. But like you said, sometimes it comes down to an. A situation where you're getting opportunities.
- [41:21]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
- [41:21]
Shannon Sharpe
How many opportunities did he have in New England and who did he have trying to get in the ball? Now? Drake May was a rookie and, and Drake May has gotten better and towards the end of the year, he got better last year and he's playing really well this year thus far. But being in a situation like this, Kyle, one thing. Kyle knows how to get the ball to guys.
- [41:38]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
- [41:38]
Shannon Sharpe
That's something that his dad could always do. Look, when you got, you know, you have Jerry and then you, you deal with me and you deal with Rod, you have Brandon Marshall. So you know how to get the ball to hot receivers and know how to feature them, put them in situations where they can win. And that what. That's what it was tonight. Oo he got put into a situation and hey, throw the ball to K. Hey, there'll be a situation like. Because I can hear, hey, throw the ball to 84.
- [42:02]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
- [42:02]
Shannon Sharpe
So he's tell. Hey, you know, Kyle's in his ear. What we. Hey, I don't have kd. I don't have Pierce. All. What is it, Priscilla? P. All.
- [42:15]
Chad Ochocinco
I'm gonna call him. I'm gonna call him RP Until I talk to him. Right?
- [42:20]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. And so that's the thing though, Ocho. But if you go back and look, Kyle has made some really, really marginal quarterbacks look really, really good.
- [42:34]
Chad Ochocinco
Good. Really good.
- [42:36]
Shannon Sharpe
So you can imagine what he does when he has somebody. I could just Matt. I don't even want to think about it. M. Jones finished the game with 49 pass attempts. That's the most B niners quarterback since C.J. beathard had 54 in 2018. Mack, after the game, Kyle came up to me before the game and he was pissed how we were underdog. So he was like, just let it fly. And I was like, coach, you don't have to tell me twice. The Rams were favored by eight and a half points. Quarterbacks with at least three wins and zero losses this season. The only three. Did you have Josh Allen, Jaylen Herz?
- [43:14]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. M. Jones, you heard what you just said. I want you to think about what you just said. The Rams were favored by how much?
- [43:23]
Shannon Sharpe
Eight and a half.
- [43:24]
Chad Ochocinco
Who won the game tonight?
- [43:27]
Shannon Sharpe
49Ers.
- [43:28]
Chad Ochocinco
Now, I don't mean to fast forward to Sunday. How much of the Lion's favorite by?
- [43:34]
Shannon Sharpe
Not enough.
- [43:36]
Chad Ochocinco
I'm just saying. Now you see where I'm going with this.
- [43:38]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, you. Yeah, you. You lying. You. But you're gonna go to hell. Cause you have to give account for these lies you telling. Hey, Chad. Don't y' all listen to Ocho. Don't y' all go put y'. All. Don't y' all put y'. All go put y' all money down on the bingo.
- [43:52]
Chad Ochocinco
I'm not saying. I ain't saying nothing about no Ben. I ain't saying nothing about no putting no money. But I'm just saying, you see how the football God showed up? The football guard showed up and said, the hell you don't.
- [44:03]
Shannon Sharpe
First of all, Jake Browning ain't Mac Jones. Let's start with that. Your defense isn't the 49ers. Let's start. Let's, let's, let's. Let's continue with that. And third of all, third and most important of all, ain't nobody gonna confuse Zach Taylor with Kyle Shanahan. Let's just. Let. Let's just. Let's just say that there are three simple facts.
- [44:25]
Chad Ochocinco
Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Okay, wait. You. You get a little. You getting a little too hostile. You get a little. Calm down. You get a little too hostile. Let's wait and see what happens Sunday. Now. Let's wait and see. Because every time I go to a.
- [44:41]
Shannon Sharpe
Game since I remember Disappointed.
- [44:45]
Chad Ochocinco
Every time I go to a game, we win. Now take with that what you need and what you will.
- [44:52]
Shannon Sharpe
Don't take nothing from that chat. Don't y' all listen to Ocho.
- [44:56]
Chad Ochocinco
They never lost a game when I'm in town, okay?
- [45:00]
Shannon Sharpe
You're gonna be putting stuff in your mama's name. The Lions are favored by ten and a half. Not enough.
- [45:14]
Chad Ochocinco
All right.
- [45:14]
Shannon Sharpe
Sean McVeigh spoke on his game losing fourth down decision. It was a bad call. It was a bad call. By me. I'm sick right now because I put out players that are spot, and I've got to live with that. I mean, most people. Third on the yard. Most people say. Because here's the thing. If you throw it, Ocho, what is everybody gonna say? Man, why don't you get the ball to Calvin Williams? A yard. You can't get a yard. Okay to get a ball to Kyrie, Man, Matthew Stafford was dealing. Why don't you let Matthew Stafford throw? Come on, man. You know how this thing go, Ocho. If you run it and don't get it, you should have thrown it. You throw it and don't get it, you should have run it.
- [45:53]
Chad Ochocinco
Either way, I like the call because I would, too. When McVeigh making a call like that, he's telling his players one thing. I believe in y'. All. I believe in you. I believe who we have can get that. Get us that one yard. That's what the players think. Forget what everybody think on the outside. If we get it, we don't. You know what? Our coach believe in us. Well, he going for it on fourth one instead of. Instead of kicking the field goal, man. Nah. Players like that play. Do you know how them players feel about Dan Campbell going forward on fourth and four?
- [46:24]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [46:25]
Chad Ochocinco
Three. Fourth and two. Fourth and one. Oh, hell, man. We run through a goddamn brick wall for him, man, please.
- [46:33]
Shannon Sharpe
You. You like knowing that your coach has confidence in you and that. You know what? Hey, guys. You guys gonna get it? Y' all gonna back me up?
- [46:39]
Chad Ochocinco
Absolutely.
- [46:40]
Shannon Sharpe
And that's the thing. Your coach, you know when. Bro, we were in Baltimore and Brian talking crazy, and he going back and forth with Jeff Fisherman. He going back and forth with Coach Coward in Pittsburgh. He told. He put it out there. We got to go back it up, man.
- [46:53]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
- [46:54]
Shannon Sharpe
Y' all heard the man say. He talking. Okay. And I, I, I, I, I, I, I did love that. That's the one thing that you're. There's a lot to love about Baltimore because it was great. I had a great time in Baltimore my two years. Wish it could have been longer, but they didn't care. They don't try to change nothing about you. Just play hard, talk as much as you want to talk. Just realize now, come Sunday night, you got to back up. What you saying?
- [47:17]
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
- [47:19]
Shannon Sharpe
You know what I'm saying? Hey, talk all you want to.
- [47:21]
Chad Ochocinco
You give time out. Time out. Time out. What team you talking about?
- [47:25]
Shannon Sharpe
The Ravens.
- [47:27]
Chad Ochocinco
You mean the Ravens? That's one and three right now.
- [47:30]
Shannon Sharpe
I Talk about when I was there.
- [47:31]
Chad Ochocinco
Hold on.
- [47:32]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know nothing about the Raven. I'm talking about when I was there.
- [47:34]
Chad Ochocinco
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You still part of the team, right? You've been hooping, hollering by the Ravens, and they won in three. The same Ravens that lost the other night.
- [47:42]
Shannon Sharpe
Bronco country, baby.
- [47:43]
Chad Ochocinco
You. Hey, listen, you can't say foot or ball or say anything related to anything. Ravens.
- [47:48]
Shannon Sharpe
I get to say that because my team beat your team. Who don't do that. Oh, now you don't know who you played for. We beat you that bad game. You amnesia. Hold on.
- [47:57]
Chad Ochocinco
Are you talking about the Broncos?
- [47:58]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [47:59]
Chad Ochocinco
Well, listen, we don't want to hear no old story about the Raven today. Win the game.
- [48:03]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, you can't say no. I tell you what. Guess what? You won't be able to share no stories for another week.
- [48:08]
Chad Ochocinco
I mean, listen, we'll see about that.
- [48:11]
Shannon Sharpe
Another week and another one.
- [48:14]
Chad Ochocinco
We'll see about that.
- [48:16]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
- [48:17]
Chad Ochocinco
The one thing, one thing about me, I got faith. I got Faith. Who, Me?
- [48:23]
Shannon Sharpe
You? You dated somebody named Faith? I don't know nobody but Faith, but Faith Evans. How's she doing?
- [48:28]
Chad Ochocinco
All right, we'll see, we'll see. I want everybody, probably everybody in the chat, probably laughing, saying, oh, the Bengals don't got no chance. Okay, we'll see, we'll see.
- [48:39]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, Dylan. Gabriel made an interesting comment yesterday when talking about becoming Brown's new QB1. Let's take a listen to what Gabriel had to say.
- [48:50]
Dylan Gabriel
I smile because it's like a moment you prep for and you are extremely excited for, but also got to realize that it's extreme focus, and that's what I've continued to harp on. But you wait for the perfect time. You know you're gonna wait a whole lifetime. So for me, I'm just. I've always been ready for every moment.
- [49:10]
Shannon Sharpe
Wait for the perfect time. You'll be waiting a lifetime.
- [49:15]
Chad Ochocinco
I like that. Because when you do, you get your moments and your opportunities. Sometimes the ideal situation is never perfect. It's never perfect. The ideal situation that you envision in your head, you to get the opportunity, it's never going to be how you envision it. And that's exactly what it is. Sometimes their adversity, sometimes there are obstacles that you have to climb to get said opportunities. And for him, it hasn't been perfect. Amen. My light. My light just went out.
- [49:52]
Shannon Sharpe
Don't think he was talking about him waiting a lifetime. The reports didn't come out that he's Told the team not to draft him.
- [50:00]
Chad Ochocinco
I. I don't. Yeah.
- [50:01]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't.
- [50:01]
Chad Ochocinco
I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't coincide with what he said and having to do anything with. With 12. I. I don't. Yeah. No. It's hard to even. No, not even close.
- [50:11]
Shannon Sharpe
Not even close.
- [50:12]
Chad Ochocinco
Nah, not even close. No, that's.
- [50:15]
Shannon Sharpe
In a sense, I get, you know, that would be.
- [50:17]
Chad Ochocinco
That would be almost be reaching a little bit. That. That's. To me. No.
- [50:24]
Shannon Sharpe
So. But I'm trying to figure out how you feel. Why would he say if you wait for the perfect time, you have to wait a lifetime?
- [50:31]
Chad Ochocinco
Well, come on. Huh?
- [50:33]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm just asking.
- [50:35]
Chad Ochocinco
We can't be. Can't. That's his words. That's. That's what he came up with. That might be a. Sandy's. I. I don't know. I don't know. But I. I still don't. I don't coincide what he's saying and having to do anything.
- [50:45]
Shannon Sharpe
But it's your door. I. Look, is it ever going to be perfect, Ocho? I mean, all things being equal, you like for the Dolphins to draft you all, baby, like, man, let me go home. I want to play for the Dolphins or I want to go play with somebody got a quarterback, yada, yada, yada. But look, and I get it, quarterbacks are different because normally you get a quarterback and he's good. He gonna be there for a period of time, and you got to, you know, you got to wait and hope everything happens. I mean, idea. Let me ask you a question. Ideally, yeah. Do you think Tom Brady, given the choice, wanted to go to New England after they had just given, made Drew Bledsoe the highest paid quarterback in the NFL? He had just signed a six year, $100 million deal.
- [51:31]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
- [51:31]
Shannon Sharpe
You think that was the ideal situation for Tom Brady?
- [51:34]
Chad Ochocinco
Absolutely not.
- [51:35]
Shannon Sharpe
What happened?
- [51:37]
Chad Ochocinco
He got hurt, Drew got hurt, you got hurt. And guess what happened? It wasn't an ideal situation and it wasn't perfect.
- [51:46]
Shannon Sharpe
He made it ideal.
- [51:48]
Chad Ochocinco
Bingo. And the same thing. Joe Flacco's not playing well. It's not the ideal situation because maybe the ideal situation is I drafted in the third round and I beat Joe Flacco out in training camp, and I'm the start of week one. That's the ideal, perfect situation.
- [52:07]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't believe there. I don't believe they're gonna let anybody look. It's been reported they wanted Kenny Pickett to win the job and Gabriel B. Second. Should door be third? I don't ever think there was going to be a situation o joke that a rookie was going to beat Joe Flacco out. I don't.
- [52:22]
Chad Ochocinco
No, I, I didn't either. Based on. I didn't either. But again, the way to go on who you start with is you start with the veteran who has experience and when the bottom falls out, then you make a change. The bottom fell out. They made a change.
- [52:38]
Shannon Sharpe
Right. Man should have got told him the bottom was going to fall out.
- [52:42]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
- [52:42]
Shannon Sharpe
At some point the bucket was rusty anyway. You talking about the bottom fell out? Hell, the bucket rusty.
- [52:49]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
- [52:50]
Shannon Sharpe
You think was gonna happen to the bottom? Look, at the end of the day, Shador needed to make the best decision for him. You might not agree with what he did. He should just be happy that somebody was going to take him. X, Y and Z. I get it. Oo I get all. I do. I honestly get all of that. Cuz normally when we come out oo we just happen to get drafted. Really, I am. I didn't care about, man, the big really. The Bengals, the Patriots, the Colts, anybody could have drafted me. I got drafted to the NFL. That was the start of the journey. Yeah, I mean people. Sometime people get drafted. Oo they say, oh yeah, no, bro, your journey just started. You ain't never been to the NFL. I don't know if your. My, my dream was not to just get. Was not to be drafted. My dream was to get to the NFL and play right. Being drafted is just half the process. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
- [53:39]
Chad Ochocinco
Also, you have to think now. Let, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's.
- [53:42]
Shannon Sharpe
Use a little common sense.
- [53:44]
Chad Ochocinco
My chances, if I'm Shador, I don't want to go to Baltimore. You ain't finna see the field. You not seeing the field for the next 10. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. The next 10, 11 years, it's gonna be Lamar Jackson show.
- [54:02]
Shannon Sharpe
I know a guy that went to New England when Tom Brady was at his apex named Jimmy Garoppolo. Played a few games, played good enough and then what happened? Tell the people at home that don't know that wasn't around when Jimmy Garoppolo got drafted to the New England Patriots and Tom Brady got suspended. Because we never know because there's only been one omnipotent one.
- [54:23]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
- [54:23]
Shannon Sharpe
Be all knowing.
- [54:24]
Chad Ochocinco
Yes.
- [54:25]
Shannon Sharpe
Tell the people at home what happened. Jimmy Garoppolo got drafted to the New England Patriots. There's an unforeseen that we could not have possibly known Right. Tell the people. I want you to take the story over from there.
- [54:37]
Chad Ochocinco
Hold on. I forgot the story. You got to bring me up to speed.
- [54:43]
Shannon Sharpe
Jimmy Garoppolo gets drafted to the New England Patriots.
- [54:46]
Rob Gronkowski
Yes.
- [54:46]
Shannon Sharpe
Tom Brady gets suspended for four games. Jimmy Garoppolo played well enough to say. Guess what happened, ocho.
- [54:53]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
- [54:53]
Shannon Sharpe
The 49ers traded a second round pick to get Jimmy G. Okay. Now Lamar Jackson is hurt. If Shador Sanders is there, guess who's gonna get in the game right now? Ocho.
- [55:04]
Chad Ochocinco
Shador Sanders.
- [55:05]
Shannon Sharpe
If you play well enough because you know you're not going to keep the job from Lamar Jackson. You play well enough, guess what happens, Ocho. Tell the people. I don't. What could possibly happen.
- [55:14]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, he could probably get traded. Somebody. Somebody willing to give up picks for him.
- [55:18]
Shannon Sharpe
Tada. And you get, you get to a situation that you always wanted because. Go ahead.
- [55:27]
Chad Ochocinco
Or the cars that you were dealt. I'm gonna take my chances going somewhere else. I'm gonna take my chances going. But let me stay with me now.
- [55:36]
Shannon Sharpe
Go ahead. I'm with you.
- [55:37]
Chad Ochocinco
I'm gonna take my chances going somewhere else. Where the odds are stacked against me. Those obstacles and those hurdles, that adversity that I've always had to overcome in life. I'm a. I'm do it the hard way and wait my turn. Because guess what he gonna get his opportunity on.
- [55:58]
Shannon Sharpe
Guess what else is stacked against you?
- [56:00]
Chad Ochocinco
What's that?
- [56:01]
Shannon Sharpe
The talent in Cleveland versus the talent in Baltimore.
- [56:03]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
- [56:04]
Shannon Sharpe
Because when Jimmy Garoppolo went to New England, guess who he was throwing to. Danny Amendola. Guess who else. Julian Edelman. Guess who else. Rob Gronkowski. Guess who he would be handing the ball off to? Derek Henry. Guess who he'd be throwing to? Mark Andrews. Guess who else? Rashad Bateman. Guess who else made flowers.
- [56:23]
Chad Ochocinco
Hey. Flowers.
- [56:25]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh. Now let me ask you another question. Who would you rather be throwing the ball to? The guys in Cleveland or the guys in Baltimore? Who would you rather hand the ball off to? Derek Henry or the guy in Cleveland? I'm just asking. I'm. I don't know. I mean, you might like.
- [56:40]
Chad Ochocinco
I hear you. I hear you. It sound good. That would be the ideal situation. But what did, what did Dylan Gabriel just say? I don't have the ideal situation. The situation I'm in was not perfect. But when I. When the opportunity.
- [56:55]
Shannon Sharpe
Hold up, hold up. Can we rewrite that and play that again? Can we rewrite?
- [57:00]
Dylan Gabriel
I smile because it's like a moment you prep for and you, you are extremely excited for, but also got to realize that it's extreme focus, and that's what I've continued to harp on. But you wait for the perfect time, you know, you're gonna wait a whole lifetime. So for me, I'm just. I've always been ready for every moment.
- [57:19]
Chad Ochocinco
If you wait for the perfect time. So I. I'm Shador, and I'm in Baltimore, so I'm waiting on Lamar to get hurt, because that's the.
- [57:27]
Shannon Sharpe
What you waiting for in Baltimore? What you waiting for in Cleveland? You waiting for Joe Flacco to mess up.
- [57:33]
Chad Ochocinco
So either way, whichever place you go to, you're still waiting on the perfect time. You're still waiting on the ideal situation where you can get in there and do what you do, regardless of what's surrounding you. You still got to do what you got to do, right, when you get in there. Hey, for one. You know what? You know what's funny is you can't focus on what's around you. You can only focus on what you need to do, Right? Do what you need to do, regardless of whether you have a great supporting cast or not. Whether I got Derek here or not, whether I got day flowers or I got. Got damn goddamn Derek Henry in the background, I gotta do what I need. I got to do. And hand the ball off to Justin Juggins, right? Judkins.
- [58:09]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [58:09]
Chad Ochocinco
Duckins. I got to get the ball to Jerry. Jerry Judy. I got to get the ball at unjuku. Whatever. I got to work with that. That hand I got. But when you play blackjack, they give you a hand, right? I'm trying to beat the dealer. That's it. I got to work with what I.
- [58:26]
Shannon Sharpe
Got, I guess I got. I. Man, you gave me 14. I guess. What you got? You got a nine. I gotta hit it.
- [58:40]
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, that's the beautiful. Hey, that's the beautiful thing about life, though, huh? That's thing about life, right? We all envision getting the perfect hand, but sometimes the car that God dealers, they ain't perfect. But he ain't gonna give us 21 every time.
- [58:55]
Shannon Sharpe
No. And sometimes you might have 21, and the dealer got 21, and you'll be like. And you didn't take no insurance out.
- [59:01]
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, listen, it's a push.
- [59:03]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, you got two. Oh, you like? Oh, yeah, I got 20. And then he flip over blackjack. So you're right. There are. There are no. Look, there are no perfect scenarios. Yeah, we make. Whatever it is. We make the best out because there have been times. Hey, you got. Hey, you got eight, you got 10, you get three, you get a five, you get another three. 21.
- [59:27]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
- [59:28]
Shannon Sharpe
Like, damn. I don't know how I got. I don't know how I made that hand.
- [59:32]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
- [59:33]
Shannon Sharpe
And that's what your daughter's gonna have to do. Okay. You're gonna have to wait a couple more weeks. Dylan Gabriel is in there now, and they're gonna give it. They're gonna give him, you know, three to five weeks.
- [59:46]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Hey, listen, I. I hope. I hope he does well.
- [59:49]
Shannon Sharpe
I do too. I. I look, I. I can't wish bad. Oh, I've been in that situation. Oo. I was the third. Hold on. Clarence K. Orson. Bur I was the fourth tight end. Oo, go four. Every tight end on the roster got hurt.
- [60:06]
Chad Ochocinco
Hold on. You was fourth?
- [60:08]
Shannon Sharpe
Fourth. First of all, I was. Oh, so first of all, I was receiving. I was the fifth receiver, so that's what I was. I was the fifth receiver. Yes.
- [60:17]
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, you were. Sorry.
- [60:19]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, I was a special team man. I was special team. Don't yo. That's my job now. Hey, give him a good look at practice.
- [60:25]
Chad Ochocinco
Right.
- [60:27]
Shannon Sharpe
Special teams go down there and do what I need to do.
- [60:29]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
- [60:31]
Shannon Sharpe
How everybody. All the tight ends get hurt.
- [60:34]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
- [60:36]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm the biggest wide receiver, but at that point in time, Ocho, I'm already down. I came In, I weighed 221. By that time, I'm like 212. What time did you. What wide receiver. You know, Ocho can go play even in today's game when they don't really.
- [60:51]
Chad Ochocinco
Block like that at 212, you know, very undersized. That's very. Hell I did when I came in.
- [60:57]
Shannon Sharpe
This booty, I was 212. So it was a situation like. And when dad, except for me to come talk to Dan, I think I'm gonna get cut. Coach called you. They say, hey, Dan want to see you in his office. And you just had a meeting. I'm gonna tell my. What I'm gonna tell Libby what I'm gonna tell.
- [61:15]
Chad Ochocinco
Spanking damn.
- [61:17]
Shannon Sharpe
Everybody back and just. Oh, so everything going through my head. Yeah, I know. I know them ends back home gonna be. Yeah, I told you. I knew he wasn't gonna last long. He could tell I was nervous. Ocho, I'm. That's a big man, Coach. Hey, Shannon. Come on in. No, I'm good. I can hear y' all here. Hey, he said, he said, what do you think about switching positions? Thinking about move you to tight end. I said, okay. He said, I say, you gonna throw me the Ball. He's like, yeah, you know, you gotta learn the plays, but, yeah, we. We'll get you the ball. I said, okay. My heart was beating so fast.
- [62:12]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
- [62:14]
Shannon Sharpe
So, hey, now I ain't in the wide receiver meeting no more with the Titans tight ends.
- [62:21]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
- [62:22]
Shannon Sharpe
And just. And just like that, halfway through the season, Boom. Exit interview, ocho, we were 5 and 11 that year.
- [62:31]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
- [62:31]
Shannon Sharpe
He said, hey, coach. Coach Reed tell me I go to his office. He said, you did really good, but, hey, need you to get a little stronger, put a little weight on.
- [62:40]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
- [62:41]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, we think you could be really good. We think you could be really good. It's like, man, I said, okay. Bad Ocho, man, I hit the weight.
- [62:54]
Chad Ochocinco
Man.
- [62:56]
Shannon Sharpe
So that's what. Hey, Shador. I don't know when this opportunity is going to present itself, but when it presents itself, and I'm sure your father has told you this, when the opportunity presents itself. Sometimes an opportunity presents itself, Ocho. Grumblers complain about the noise. Don't worry about it. Seize the moment, bro.
- [63:20]
Chad Ochocinco
What that was.
- [63:20]
Shannon Sharpe
You said opportunity. When it knocks, grumbler complains about the noise.
- [63:26]
Chad Ochocinco
Hold on, man.
- [63:26]
Shannon Sharpe
Who that? That's opportunity gone. Don't worry about it.
- [63:30]
Chad Ochocinco
Hold on.
- [63:31]
Shannon Sharpe
You a Sanders realize that. Hang your hat on that. All else fails, go back. Who am I? What am I? How did I become this? Where did I come from?
- [63:44]
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, boy, that was a good one there, boy. When opportunity presents itself, brumbles.
- [63:48]
Shannon Sharpe
An opportunity knocks.
- [63:50]
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, yeah. Knock, knock, knock, knock, knock.
- [63:53]
Shannon Sharpe
Man, who that knocking on my door? What you want? That was opportunity knocking and you complaining about the noise.
- [64:02]
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, that's tough, huh? Hey, that's like a battle rap bar right there. I'm gonna use that. I'm using.
- [64:09]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [64:11]
Chad Ochocinco
That was a good one.
- [64:13]
Shannon Sharpe
All right, Ocho, check this out. CJ Stroud was asked about improve. Improving explosiveness.
- [64:18]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
- [64:18]
Shannon Sharpe
Let's take a listen to what he had to say.
- [64:20]
Chad Ochocinco
Okay.
- [64:20]
CJ Stroud
Being 23, I'm not, like, fully in my grown man bodies all the way yet, you know, I'm still growing every, like, every year. And I just think, like, I gotta just continue to be hard on myself about not only just lifting weights, but eating the right foods. Like, that's been a big thing, too. So, yeah, that. That's just a thing where I think the explosiveness comes from, like, being better on my diet, being better with, you know, stretching and, like, I feel like I'm getting old. So I got.
- [64:50]
Chad Ochocinco
I'm not.
- [64:50]
CJ Stroud
I'm not as quick as I used to be. I was watching my high School stuff.
- [64:53]
Chad Ochocinco
Stuff.
- [64:53]
CJ Stroud
A couple days ago, I was. I was like 180 and I was rolling. Well, not no more, but. Yeah, I try to just be better with that stuff so I can run fast.
- [65:04]
Shannon Sharpe
All right, you ain't playing. I mean, it's hard for you to play 180. Hey, you can't take them legs.
- [65:10]
Chad Ochocinco
Nah, you can't. But. But I don't. I don't. I don't like what he said in the interview.
- [65:14]
Shannon Sharpe
What do you say?
- [65:15]
Chad Ochocinco
Like what he said in the interview. I gotta watch some of the things I eat.
- [65:19]
Shannon Sharpe
I got to shut up the diet and do.
- [65:20]
Chad Ochocinco
Let me finish. Let me finish. I got to change my diet, you know, and help. No, the food you consume has nothing to do with your explosion. When you were 180 in high school, of course you're faster. So what you need to do in the off season is you work your lower extremities. You work your lower extremities to have that explosiveness where you felt much faster when you were 180 in high school. Also, the competition you're playing against is much faster than the competition you played against when in high school. So it makes you feel like you're not as quick or as fast or as explosive. No, the people around you are that just that much faster. That's all. Ain't nothing wrong with you, boy. You're 23 years old. What? Don't let the people brainwash you, too. Talk about some diet. I can make sure you never get hurt again. You hear me? Houston? Right down the street from me. I'm a nutritionist. I got a 17 week plan that'll take you out this world, boy. Stop playing, man.
- [66:17]
Shannon Sharpe
Don't let 17 we take you out the league, C.J. don't you call lo.
- [66:21]
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, C. Hey, Stroud. I gotta. I gotta. I'm telling you. Well, I'm a nutritionist.
- [66:25]
Shannon Sharpe
Huh?
- [66:26]
Chad Ochocinco
I got my license. I'm a dietitian. I got. I got everything you need, anything you need.
- [66:31]
Shannon Sharpe
Man, that man ain't got a driver's license. He got a fishing license.
- [66:34]
Chad Ochocinco
C.J. stroud, come Holl at your boy in the offseason.
- [66:37]
Shannon Sharpe
Don't holl at him, C.J. he got. He. Oh, man. 23. Boy, if you only 23, I sure hate to see you at 33.
- [66:49]
Chad Ochocinco
He's mistaken. He's mistaking how he looked in high school and how explosive he felt against the competition.
- [66:56]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, how many. How many of them guys that you played against the high school in the NFL? Because all the guys that you play against now in the NFL.
- [67:05]
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, it's a different ball game. Hey, unc, you got Lyman 300, 290 running four. Five, man.
- [67:13]
Shannon Sharpe
Yep, yep.
- [67:15]
Chad Ochocinco
Come on, man. So of course you feel that way, but that's not it. It's an illusion. It's in your mind. C.J. stroud, I can get you down to a 4, 3. I can get you down to a four, three. Come on down there to my track program.
- [67:29]
Shannon Sharpe
He ain't getting down to four three, cj. You're not getting down to four, three.
- [67:33]
Chad Ochocinco
I'm telling you. Hey, I have CJ Stratton. Like, like, like Lamar Jackson.
- [67:37]
Shannon Sharpe
No, you're not.
- [67:39]
Chad Ochocinco
I need three months because Lamar Jackson.
- [67:42]
Shannon Sharpe
Been fast all his life. CJ Stroud ain't been fast. CJ Stroud been fast by his standards. Yeah, but by being fast. Lamar Jackson been fast his whole life. Lamar Jackson was fast in high school. He was fast in junior high school. He was fast in college. He fast in the NFL, punk.
- [68:00]
Chad Ochocinco
Listen to me. I'm not saying I can get him Lamar Jackson fast, but I can get him in arms reach and arms length of being just as elusive. Not as fast, but fast enough to where he doesn't feel he's overwhelmed by the NFL talent that's in.
- [68:18]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, Victor, with Miyama's arm, they this long.
- [68:22]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm. I'm telling you, man. Tell you, I got. I got a good program for all them boys.
- [68:31]
Shannon Sharpe
No, you don't.
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Shannon Sharpe
I pulled up real quick.
- [68:43]
Chad Ochocinco
He was about to leave on tour. You're about to jump in your tour bus, and we had like three hours.
- [68:47]
Shannon Sharpe
It was really cool.
- [68:47]
Chad Ochocinco
He really just, like, randomly showed up to my house, and I'm like, oh, hey, Diplo, what you do you doing? He's like, I have a song that.
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Shannon Sharpe
I want to show you.
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Chad Ochocinco
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