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Joe Johnson
Hey.
Shannon Sharpe
Not from you, but all your supporters out there say that.
Geno Smith
That Kevin Stefanski was sabotaging you.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
So you just want to start trouble, huh?
Shannon Sharpe
No, I want to ask you what your relationship with him is.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, well, what people do outside the building isn't really in my control. It's not in my power.
Shannon Sharpe
So I don't.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, like, I go out there and tell them to do whatever. You know, that's. That's not nothing I could control or nothing I could do. But overall, you know, I'm just happy to be here. Coach Stefanski, you've been coaching since I got here, and you've been doing a very great job, you know, with everything that's going on.
Shannon Sharpe
But what is your relationship like with him? And when we don't see you guys together?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Definitely like a coach, you know, he tells me what I need to do on and off the field. We definitely grown our relationship and everything has grown, so I'm just thankful to be here.
Joe Johnson
Hey, what the hell is the reporter fishing for? I mean.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, you know what he's fishing for.
Joe Johnson
Hey, listen, hold on, hold on, Joe. I don't like that. Joe, listen, the focus should be on him having his first, his second start. Going to play the San Francisco 49ers. What's the game plan? Or what's your thought going in to play them, worried about the late. This. This is business. This ain't about friendship. Hidden job as the coach Shador job is to play. Simple as that. They don't. That's asking a stupid question. It had nothing to do with the.
Shannon Sharpe
Game of football, I think. Hey, go ahead, Joe. Go ahead, go ahead.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Okay, Ocho, I don't really think it was a stupid question he asked. He asked a question that a lot of people out here want to know. A lot of people want to know, do Stefanski really mess with him like that? You know what I mean? Like, what's our relationship for real?
Shannon Sharpe
A.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Reporters have tough.
Shannon Sharpe
They have a tough job, bro.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
They got to ask the tough questions. You know what I mean? So I don't mind the question, honestly, I'm just glad. It just depends on who you're asking and are they mature enough to be able to talk around that question?
Joe Johnson
I thought, well, listen, if Joe and uncle. If you listen to the answer. He talked around it. He didn't answer directly. Listen, he's my coach, and he's been coaching me the way he should since I've been here. You already know how that coach feels about you based on the way he talks publicly and some of the things that he says, because when they ask him a question about him, he doesn't answer it directly either. He dances around the question that talks about the team collectively. That's what he does. I mean, we know how he feels about him. The reporter knows how most of the people in that organization feel about him, including the owner. So there's no need to ask that just to fit for something so you have something to write a goddamn headline about.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
They need a viral moment, you know.
Shannon Sharpe
Look, guys, you know, I kind of do a little bit more interviewing with Club Shay Shay and with my previous job when I was at cbs, I used to go out on the road a lot to interview players. And I've always asked, you know, for me, I never wanted to become a part of the story, so. But I also. I was like, man, if somebody I Wonder what fans would really want to know if they had an opportunity to ask Tony Romo a question, if they got an opportunity to ask J.J. watt a question, if they got an opportunity, what would they ask? So I always tried to ask a question or questions that fans would want to know, but I also understood that, you know, I got to keep. This is about football. I'm going to the first thing. I'm like, okay, Shador, you got your first start out the way you played. You know, you got to win. Everybody seemed to be excited. What is your expectations going into your second start? You get a second week to practice, you get a second week to start with, you know, to go with the ones. The offensive line will have a better indication of your cadence. I would ask him questions like that, but I think because so many people have said that Kevin Stefanski has deliberately and purposefully tried to sabotage this young man's development and his growth, it's hard for me to see that. I don't know how many. I don't know the pool of reporters, how many they got, O.J. i mean, we would have, you know, 15, 20, 30 guys, they're asking questions. It's hard for me to believe. He probably was the first one to get an opportunity to ask a question, but it's hard for me to believe that of those 25, 30 pool reporters that were there, not one person was going to ask about the relationship. Now, you look, he's mature enough because, hell, his dad, he's been in. He's basically been in the spotlight because of his dad. He understands that everything that he says is going to be scraped over with a fine tooth combination for the simple fact of his last name. Ocho and Joe. So he understands that he's very mature, and he's been a quarterback, Ojo, you know, Joe, and you know what quarterbacks do.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Think about how many times they asked Coach. They asked Tom, or they asked Coach Belichick, and they kept it professional, knowing Tom ain't really deal with him like that, and he ain't really deal with Tom like that now. It came out later, but we already knew. We can see how they moved. We can see how you move that give us a clear indication of what it's like. But what. What did they expect him to say? Nah, he ain't even offer me to come over for dinner. He had Dylan over to his house for dinner one night with him and his wife. He didn't do that for me yet, but I hopefully come. I mean, what did I expect? Him to say I got a relationship, I'm a player, a first year player, a rookie, he's a coach. And that's the extent of our relationship. I didn't expect it to be anything else. What it's not his father? What's his like? And he says both he and Shiloh, when we're at practice, he's coach. When we're home, he's dad.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, it's full time with Stefanski. He's always going to be coach, so I don't really expect it. Expect what they expected him to say. Yeah, hey, but with all that being said, what is your expectations, Ocho? Because as I said before, Joe, he's got another week of practice under his belt and you like to think that he can build on the momentum that he's generated but also correct some of the mistakes so he stays more into the favorable and less into the negative. So what is your expectation though, Joe and Joe, about what you're going to see this week going up against the the 49ers are better team than the Raiders?
Joe Johnson
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I'm hoping to see a little bit more comfortability, a little bit more better command of the offense. From a statistical standpoint, I would love to see better numbers. Better numbers and better decision making with the ball. Understanding obviously the game plan, your offensive line having a better understanding of your cadence and just having control of the offense in its entirety. Being able to move the ball down the field and just, just don't turn the ball over and give your team a chance. That's all I can ask for. Consistent consistency. Quarter by quarter or drive by drive. That's all you could ask for.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Man, aka Ocho. I want to see him to continue being a leader. It seems like it's so infectious to his teammates. If you ask me, I think they got a great chance of winning the game because I think those guys play a little harder when he's out there. That's just my perspective on it. And the way he leads, man, it just oozes confidence, I think, in everybody else. And they understand what they up against, and they understand the scrutiny that this young man is under. Man, I got these guys coming out. I think they gonna ball up, brother. I think you're gonna be a lot more comfortable, and I think he's gonna play a much better game.
Shannon Sharpe
I agree. I think the thing is that when you're with a young player that coaches always say, son, I just want to see you. I just want to see the improvement down in and down out, game in and game out, practice in and practice out. That's the indication that you're starting to get it. Because I think the thing is, is that with Tennessee Ocho, why they chose to go in a different direction with a from Will Levis is why Ocho, he kept making the same mistake over and over.
Joe Johnson
Oh.
Shannon Sharpe
So we come out here every week. Damn, son, he just. He just chewed your ass out last week for making that dumb play, and you come back and do the same play again.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
So one or two things, Coach used to say. Either one or two things, son. You not processing what I'm saying or you just.
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Shannon Sharpe
Or my teaching is just effed up.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Or you just don't give a F because something is not computing. I'm telling you, against this coverage, if you throw it late, it's going to be trouble. And every time you do it, you throw it late against that coverage, and the same thing happened. And it happened week after week after week. So something there. There's something lost. Being lost in translation. Either the way I'm explaining it to you or the way you're receiving it. But some we got to get on the same page. And I think the thing is, with Shador, I believe he's smart enough and he understands that. Look, he doesn't need to add any more pressure to himself. He understands. He said it. Yeah, there are a lot of people and there are. But there are a lot of People. And do I think there are a lot of people that want to see a lot of people fail? Yes. But I think more. I mean, obviously, if it's you going against my team. Oh, hell, yeah. I want to see oh Joe fail. Hell, I want to see him catch. Yeah, yeah. Catch him for 200 yards against me.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Fail.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
But there are people that don't even have a vested interest in it. They're not Browns fans. And the team that they root for aren't playing the Browns, and they're just rooting against it. That's what I don't understand.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
If you're. I'm playing your team and you root against me, that means, you know what? You think I could do something bad to your team. I have a. I expect that. But just to be like, I don't want to see him do good. He's entitled.
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Joe Johnson
You know, everybody going to have their opinion. You know how that go, Joe. Everybody going to have their opinion depending on who you are, whether it be the last name, whether it be his dad, just everyone going to have a reason not to like you. There are certain things that you can't control as a player. There's certain things that you don't need to worry about. The thing that you can control. You control that. What Shador can control is outcome of that goddamn game and offensive, how well he plays and how well he plays for him. I just want to play. I want to play free. I want you to play like you back at Jackson State. I want you to play like you a goddamn Colorado with the understanding and command of the offense and playing with that confidence, playing with extreme confidence. And everything else will take care of itself. As long as his offense is his supporting cast. Offensively, they got to play good. Judy, no more mistakes. Protecting the ball. Any deep balls, cover that thing up. If you got. No. If you ran out of real estate, either go down and get your ass out of bounds. Njoku. Running back junkins. I mean, all y' all have to play your part in order for him to have success. And I have. I really think they have a good chance to win the game.
Shannon Sharpe
I do, too.
Joe Johnson
Not because of the offense and not because of Shador. Because that goddamn defense. That damn defense.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Oh, they are man. Man, man, boy and boys good man.
Shannon Sharpe
But I've all. Joe, I think a lot of time, if you look at us, and we're not monolithic, but a lot of us that succeed in the level, we succeed. We came from impoverished conditions. Everybody didn't have a Steph Curry situation. Everybody does not have a Peyton Manning situation. So I'm. I'm even more. Because we understood, look, I mean, Peyton Manning got a mom and a dad, and dad played in the NFL and they doing good. Steph Curry, his dad played in the NBA. But more times than not, they come up like a LeBron James a lot of times. Sometimes more times than not, they probably grandmother raised them. They come from broken homes. Here's a man that he said, I grew up in a 30,000 square foot home. I had every reason to kick my damn heels up and not have to worry about anything because I had a dad that was one of the greatest players to ever play in the NFL. But no, that's not what I wanted. I love that I have his last name, but I want to accomplish something for the Sanders that's outside of my dad, so I have to tilt my hat. But for him to be in that situation, I didn't have a choice. And sometimes I think, like, if I could have had. If I'd have had everything just handed to me, would I have still had that same desire, burning desire and drive to accomplish what I accomplished? Boy, look here. When you hungry at night, you getting rained on at night. Boy, that's a hell of a motivating force.
Joe Johnson
Different. Different.
Shannon Sharpe
An empty stomach and a. A weakened back pocket. Boy, you talking about some motivation. Oo, yeah. Now throw a broken heart in there, dude.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, I. Hey, I. I get it, man. Hey, look, I respect them too, because of that reason, because of how he was raised, obviously. You know, being Dion's son, growing up, you know, with more than, like, it take a lot, Uncle Ocho, for guys to grow up like that and still aspiring to be the best. Yeah. So when I watch this young man play, I'm not gonna lie, I'm rooting for him every time he get out there on the field. Cause I'm like, man, at any moment he could have been to be like, man, I'm done with all this. But that man just keep. He. He keep his head down, his confidence is high. He continue to work to. To improve. So it's a lot of people who do want to see him fail, Uncle Ocho. But I also see a lot of people who want to see him too.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, you see it? You look. Look at those Dominican baseball players. Look at the conditions they come up in, man. They pay, they. They don't got rubber bands and band them all together, and they hitting with broomsticks and they playing it with bare feet, Oto. And they out there in the fields and they got tired as bases, you see. Yeah, everybody ain't got a King Griffey Jr. Their dad played mom and dad together. Nice home and everything. Griffin said, yeah, but I won't. I want. I want to be something outside of my dad. Yes, I bear his last name, but I want to accomplish things on my own. That's always been really, really impressive to me. I love to see that. I love that desire, because a lot of times, you know, you get these trust funds kids, and they're like, well, I'm good. So I'm not just saying professional athletes, because there are a lot of trust funds and they'd be great in business or they're, you know, their dad is a doctor and they want to become a doctor, or they're a lawyer. Their dad's a doctor, or family's law, and they continue that practice. So. But I just think it's really cool because we understand when you're in an impoverished condition and you want to improve upon that. But, yeah, when your parents got really, really good money and you're like, well, you know what? I want my own. I want my own. Yeah. And, yeah, Ocho, you. I had somebody. Look, I had an older brother that went to. Went to D1, went to the NFL. I'm looking around, Joe, I'm thinking, like hell. He lived in the same house I did. He got rained on, too. He ate possum and raccoon and all that. If he could go to the NFL, I can, too.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, absolutely.
Shannon Sharpe
How is he so special? How's he so much better than I am? And we ate the same food. We sat at the same table. We did exactly the same thing. So I had someone to pattern. To look up to and look like, okay, I'm just gonna follow you see what you do now. It's not like it is now, guys. You know, like, now you might bump into something we weren't bumping in. No. No professional athlete. No damn grocery store, Ocho. We ain't gonna bump into no girl at the. At the. At the gas station or we out somewhere. We weren't gonna see no professional athlete joke. Now you got somebody like, well, damn, you could reach out and physically touch them. They were. There were football camps and basketball camps that they have now. There was none of that when we Coming up, Ocho.
Joe Johnson
Joe. The only thing I had to look up to, Uncle. Especially the kids today, I mean, they have the resources, they have the outlets. I mean, obviously, being able to see the players going to the players camps, that's one thing, but back. Back when I was growing up, I mean. I mean, we ain't really no different. We about the same goddamn age. Only thing I had, Joe, you know, to use me using motivation, was posters. I had posters of Dan Marino. I had posters of. Oh, yeah, of Mark Clayton and Mark Dubin on my wall.
Shannon Sharpe
You know, the Marx Brothers.
Joe Johnson
My room was decorated, but all the. All the NFL flags with all the teams and logos and, you know, watching TV of NFL teams in the 80s, knowing that's. Maybe that's something I didn't actually know at a young age is something that I wanted to do. But my grandma having me in football, having me at Liberty City Optimist, driving me to practice when I played for Miami lakes, optimum goddamn 30, 40 minutes away, every single day, getting up and the sacrifices that she made. And at some point, even though I was young, it became routine. And as it became routine, I started to understand the game and understand who was good at the game. And then, okay, now, and it's okay. Mark Duke and Mark Clayton. Okay, wait a minute. But they got somebody named Jerry Rice now watching him. Well, God damn, I think I can do that. And I would love to achieve the greatness that he did. I might not get it, but if I don't get it, I. I might fall short. But I want to be really good at what he does. I want to make my mark.
Wandell Robinson
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
And hell, that. That's. That's where my motivation came from. Because I didn't have nobody to look up to outside of those on tv.
Shannon Sharpe
Exactly. You know, you see Jerry Rice. Jerry Rice was a brick. His dad was a bricklayer. Jerry Rice worked with his dad during the summer. But damn, I'm pouring concrete, I'm laying asphalt. Hell, I'm working in fields. I mean, that was like the old. The old black college guys. Ocho, the OG Yeah, the first NFL players. That's how they did sharecrop. You look at the Willie Laniers and you look at all those old school guys, and I'm like, well, damn, they ain't much different than me. But they. But it seems so far away, though, Ocho, because I never saw any of these guys in person.
Joe Johnson
Right?
Shannon Sharpe
So all we could do is just watch them on television. Yeah, I had a Larry Bird poster and a couple of posters hanging up. My grandma said, boy, get that ish off my wall. Back then, we didn't have no paddling, no show, so we just had. We stick scotch tape or. Or electric tape or that silk. What they call that silver tape. Duct tape. Duct tape.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
We put that duct tape on the, on them concrete, brick, I think up there forever. That thing up there forever. And so that's what I was like, damn, man, that'd be really. And you know, Ocho, you tell somebody you gonna go play in the NFL, you from a small man, you ain't going nowhere. Your ass gonna be working at the fruitcake. You're gonna be working rotary motor or you're gonna be doing what you do it right now. Yeah. Cutting grass, landscaping and doing all that other stuff. I'm gonna show y'. All. Hey, so for Shador to live, to grow up how he grew up and to say, you know what, this is nice, but I want it for myself. Yeah, I think that says a lot about the young man.
Joe Johnson
Absolutely.
Wandell Robinson
Man.
Shannon Sharpe
There are some people around the league that believe Browns owner Jimmy Haslam is ready to clean house. According to the athletic head Coach Kevin Stefanski, GM Andrew Barry were both hired in 2020 and the team has only one playoff, was one one playoff game in that span. They also haven't been able to figure out the quarterback situation. Well, you had the number one overall pick. You had Baker, you had. Well, you, you look, you hit it at the park with, with Miles Garrett. You gotta. You got a transcendent player. Yes, and you could hope. I mean, you look, if I get a number one overall pick, first of all, Ocho, you know what, Joe? A number one overall pick, I supposed to be able to plug him in and he's supposed to be a multiple time Pro bowl player. He's supposed to be a multiple time all pro player within his first three years. The number one overall pick because the first round pick supposed to be a Pro bowl player. Yeah, because that's what you said. I mean you, you selected him in the first round. You're telling me Ocho, he's a blue chip player, which means Pro bowl the high up, you select him all pro. Yeah, all decade. That's what that's supposed to mean.
Joe Johnson
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
I think you had Baker Odell and people like. Well, he had Odell. Wasn't the same player.
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Shannon Sharpe
Odell was coming off that injury. And then what happened the next year he was there. Ocho, he tears his knee.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
So he had two debilitating injuries. Jarvis was starting to slow. Jarvis, he never had. He never was a burner. He was a possession receiver.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
And he started to slow down. And Joku was young. So y' all telling me what? But he. So y' all telling me like Mike Evans and Chris Godwin and Emeka Ibuka and those guys. And look at the running backs that he got. That what he had in Cleveland.
Joe Johnson
Different. Different.
Shannon Sharpe
Thank you.
Joe Johnson
Different. Yeah, totally different.
Shannon Sharpe
What you thinking, Joe? You think they're gonna clean house?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
It's probably about time, man. I mean, we talking, we going back 25, 30 years, talking about they quarterbacks, man, at some point you got to, hey, man, you got to clean half, start this thing over, see what we can see. We can get off to a much better start. I just think it's got to be something that's inside, organization wise, that's got this franchise in this rut. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, I think it is probably about time for him to clean house.
Shannon Sharpe
You just got to hit that one player.
Joe Johnson
That's it.
Shannon Sharpe
You got to hit that quarterback.
Joe Johnson
And the most important player you need to hit is the quarterback.
Shannon Sharpe
You gotta, you gotta get him that.
Joe Johnson
Listen, that changes everything. Look at the Texans, look at the commanders. Hell, look at the Packers. The packers have been lucky. Hell, they didn't have three quarterbacks in 30 years. Everybody can't be as forcing them. Everybody can't, right? No, they just can't. And once the Cleveland Browns figure it out, regardless of who you fire, who you hire, if you ain't got no quarterback, you're gonna be right back in the same goddamn situation, regardless. All we got are we going to see, we're going to Find out if Shador is that one. And that can be that transcending generational talent for you for the next 10 years. And there's only one way to find out. He has to play. He has to get the reps.
Shannon Sharpe
I agree. And, and, and, and the thing. Look, what Green Bay, that's an anomaly because you might not ever see that again in the quarterback where one team has basically 40 to 50 years of prosperity at one position. That doesn't happen. I don't know if it's ever happened. But if you like. If you look at the Patriots, the Patriots had a down. Then they get Drew Bledsoe, and then all of a sudden the M.O. lewis happened to bled so. And then they get Tom Brady and they have, they have Mac Jones. But I thought coach Belichick did him a disservice by getting people that's never called offensive plays to be in his ear and to call offensive plays. Now what do they do? They get Drake May. So you talking about a situation where you might have, with the exception of maybe three years, you might have another 10, 15 year stretch where in 40 years you've had three quarterbacks. That just goes to show you just how special that one player, how transformational that one player is. Nobody can impact the game like him. Now maybe if you get a starting pitcher, we'll see. Oh, we got a guy joining us right now. Even though in a loss he had four catches, 106 yards in the first quarter, the first giant receiver to eclipse the century mark in the first quarter since Hakeem Nicks did it in 2011. He finished the game with nine catches, a career high buck 56 with a touchdown on 17.3 yards per catch. Here he is, Wandell. Robinson. Wandell, how you doing, bro? Doing well.
Wandell Robinson
How y' all doing?
Shannon Sharpe
What's up? What's good? How do you look? Obviously, the season is not going the way you expected. When you guys came together, you thought you had something special, but it's not going that way. How do you still go out there? Practice hard, meet deliberate, go out there and play your tail off even though you like. You know what? We're not going to the playoff. There's not a whole lot to play for other than the name on the back of this jersey.
Wandell Robinson
Yeah, I mean, shoot, at the end of the day, it's the love for all these guys. You know, we. We've been together since the spring and, you know, we just want to go out there and get some wins under our belt. We know that we're Not a bad football team. We've been in a lot of games. Just got to finish those games and. But yeah, like I said, just the love for that I have for all these guys. It makes it easy to go into work still each and every day, just going into work with all those guys.
Joe Johnson
Hey, how's it, how does it feel for you? Obviously the injury bug has hampered you guys a little bit. Skettable going down. Malik Neighbors went down earlier, earlier this year and, and to be able to step up the way you do, what is, what does that feel like? To be able to step up and show that you also can be a go through target? Almost. I mean, those type of numbers you put up, you know, this, this previous game. Those are number one numbers. Yeah, those are number one numbers. And that, that lets everyone know every time you step on that field, you're auditioning.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Hey, how does that feel? To be able to have a game like that, to let people in that, in that, in that. Not stadium building, in that building. Know that you can also be that guy too?
Wandell Robinson
Yeah, no, I mean, I just think it's the way that I work. I just try to come into work each and every day with the same mindset. Just practice hard at the end of the day, always being available for our quarterbacks and you know, I've always felt like I've had the talent. I just needed some opportunities just to go out there and just do everything that I wanted to.
Joe Johnson
I like it.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, hey, Wandell.
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What's up?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
What's happening, man? I seen, I seen you were nominated for the Art Rooney Award, the sportsmanship award. What does that mean to you?
Wandell Robinson
I mean, I don't really know who is the one nominating everybody or whatever, but I mean, I say, yeah, I'll take it, but you know, I just try to treat the game the right way. I've been playing this game since I was 5 and my dad taught me at a very young age. I mean, at the end of the day, it's my mindset's to kill out there, but you know, you still got to respect everybody that you're going against. And you know, everybody's out there trying to feed their families too. So, you know, just trying to respect everybody. But at the end of the day, I'm still trying to go out there and do what I got to do.
Joe Johnson
Hey, before the season, before the season started, did you set some personal goals? Obviously we all have team goals. There's something we all want to achieve. When we go into training camp, the goal Is obviously to get. To get to Lombardi and reach the Super Bowl. But do you have any individual goals that you set this season?
Wandell Robinson
I mean, more so it was just solidifying myself as the best slot in the league. That was really the main thing at the beginning, having to move outside a little bit more whenever Malik went down. So just had to expand my route tree and stuff like that. But I really wanted to solidify myself there. You know, always being available on third down, that's really the big down in this league, especially for a guy like me.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Wandell Robinson
You know, just always wanting to be open and just be there for our quarterbacks.
Joe Johnson
And I like that you just said being able to go outside, wanting to solidify yourself as one of the best, better slot players. How is that transition be. How has that transition been for you? Because you know that, that, that outside, that's a different animal. Yeah, you know, it's different out there. You, you got to be on your P's and Q's, you got to be able to dot your I's and cross your T's because, you know, you on that island. How has that transition been for you? You know, being able to play not only on the inside, but now having to force your way and being able to play outside, I mean, it's been great.
Wandell Robinson
I say, really, I just think it comes down to studying and figuring out the guys that you'll be going against out there. And, you know, using my strengths to my advantage and not really, just not letting guys touch me. That's really the big thing. And once guys, I feel like they can't get their hands on me, then it's kind of raps.
Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah, it's a rap, right?
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, hey. Who you model your game at?
Wandell Robinson
I mean, coming out of, like, just like my whole life, I love Percy Harvin, Tayvon, the Anthony Thomas. Those are like my guys. Just because, you know, they were, they were smaller, they did a little bit of everything. Percy wasn't, I wouldn't say the smallest, but he just did a little bit of everything out there on the field. So that those are the guys that I definitely used to always just look up, watch their highlights and stuff like that and just want to be like.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, that's what's up in the game. You guys get the ball, you're on the six yard line, you're up three. You're like, man, we kicked this field goal. We go up six. Now they got to go all the way down the field, get a touchdown. So what, what are you thinking? Because I've been in situation. I'm like, kick it, kick it, Kick it. Punt it. Punt it. You. Hey. I'm like, come on, man. Come on. Don't put it. Hey, your job is don't cost us the game. I'm not saying. Look, don't cost us the game. Players don't know, hey, coaches, but don't you do. We worked our ass off, and then you have your. Your teammate, he tweets something, but then he deletes it. So what's your mindset in that situation? Are you like, yeah, Coach, let's go for it or what? What. What were you thinking when you like, damn, we going from. On fourth and goal from the sixth.
Wandell Robinson
I mean, I see both sides at the end of the day. I mean, it's kind of like. Like you said, we kind of felt like, you know, the season's not going the way we wanted to, so why not go ahead and just try to put the dagger into the game? I mean, hindsight's always 20 20. If we would have got it, I feel like everybody would have been like, oh, great call.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Wandell Robinson
But then, obviously, we just. We didn't. We didn't execute on that play and felt like the Lions, they had. They had a really good call for. For what we were going to do. But, I mean, I'm all for. I'm all for going forward on fourth down. I mean, I think our coach had ultimate confidence in us going forward, and, you know, we were just able to move, removing the ball well, the whole entire game, and, you know, just wanted to go out there and score a touchdown and just try to put the end to the game right there.
Shannon Sharpe
Did you tell James, throw it to me or throw it out of bounds. I'm gonna get a third of me or throw it out of bounds. James. I'm just saying. Hey, hey, that's between me and you. It ain't got to go no further from my mouth to your ears. Throw it to me or throw it out of bounds.
Wandell Robinson
No, I. I ain't go. I'm never gonna tell our quarterbacks where they got to go. I trust them, and, I mean, I think they have the ultimate trust in all the other guys around us, too. That play, actually, the. The back, he kind of cut me off on the drag route, so I was kind of dead on that one. So I was a little sick off of that.
Shannon Sharpe
But tell us about adjusting your game to three different quarterbacks. You start the season with Russ, and then you get. And then you get Jackson, and then now you Have Jameis, and it's different. Different quarterbacks have different tendencies. They, they. They. They react differently. And so you have to adjust your game to said quarterback. You just can't grow out here. Well, this is what I do. Well, if that's what you do, you're not going to get the ball. Because I've tried to get the ball. I don't know what y' all trying to do, but I'm trying to get the ball.
Wandell Robinson
Yeah, me too.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Wandell Robinson
I mean, I think that's why I always try to stay around our quarterbacks, just figuring out the things that they, like, what spots they need me in, in certain spots. And I think with Russ, obviously, you know, that D ball was the bread and butter with him, and, you know, just always being ready to go, go attack the football whenever the ball was in the air. And then Jackson, you know, he's a little bit more mobile than the other two, and you got to be ready during scramble drill, so he's always going to be able to break the pocket and get some big plays off of that. That's where I definitely think me and him have connected well, is whenever he's kind of broke, broken the play down, and then I just kind of figure out where he's at, and we kind of find each other and go from there. And Jameis, you know, he's a gunslinger. He's gonna. He's gonna give you a chance no matter what. If he sees, man, and he likes his matchup, he's going right to you.
Shannon Sharpe
So you'll give you a chance.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Hey, would you be in a slot receiver? One of. One of the best things you have to have. You have to have lateral movement. You have to have quickness. You got to have footwork. The number one thing is route running. You got to be able to run routes, especially in tight, tight spaces, and being able to manipulate who it. Whatever it is in front of you. If you had to pick your five top route runners of all time, now that you've been playing, who would they be?
Wandell Robinson
All time.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, we're not just talking. Just.
Shannon Sharpe
You talking about. Just. You talking about Ocho. You talking about just slot, or you.
Joe Johnson
Talking about overall receivers, just route running? Because when we talk about rock running, he has a completely different category as opposed to just saying top receivers, I would definitely say.
Wandell Robinson
All right, let's go, Jerry. Gotta give. Gotta give that one up a B. I know. I know that a lot of people don't like, but, hey. That he can route everything.
Shannon Sharpe
Yep.
Wandell Robinson
You know, Julio, I think he Was the one that started just, you know, that head down and just making everything look like a go and then shoot.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I'll get.
Wandell Robinson
We'll get some newer guys. I love saying I love Saint Brown. I was watching him.
Joe Johnson
Nice.
Wandell Robinson
He's always doing his thing. Who's our last one we didn't want to give it to. I'm gonna give it to my boy Lee. That's. That's. That's my guy right there. He. I've seen some stuff that he does, and it's like, yeah, this. This guy got it.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, I like it.
Shannon Sharpe
That. That's. That's. That's a nice. That's a nice list you got there, man.
Wandell Robinson
Because I thought.
Shannon Sharpe
I thought Ocho was there because you're in the slot. He was gonna go slot receivers, but Ocho took it overall runners.
Wandell Robinson
And every time I see clips, anybody miked up, it's like, he. They can't put their hands on him. And so. But, you know, I say I wouldn't. Was going outside the box here. It was gonna get some different names that people probably.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, I appreciate it. Hey, I'm. Listen, I'm. I'm in a class of my own. I'm the greatest. Rock all time.
Shannon Sharpe
There you go.
Joe Johnson
You don't have. You don't have to mention me. It's okay. It's okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Look, you got to face some adversity this year. I mean, you had, I think you said, an NFL record, five double digigit leads, and you end up losing the game. How do you correct that? Because it's not like you guys are getting blown out from the jump and you're never in the game. You're leading the game. I mean, the Broncos situation, they scored 33 points and. Yeah, like that. You like how we. How do we let this game slip away? How do we let the Detroit game slip away? How do we let. I mean, you had New Orleans daddy, right? And then a couple of turnovers, and that goes haywire.
Wandell Robinson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
What's going through your mind when you're like, oh, man. And next thing you learn like, damn, here we go again.
Wandell Robinson
Honestly, man, it just be feeling like a movie sometimes. It's like. It's just really happening for real. I'm like, is this really happening right here? But, you know, I mean, sometimes it's just like, hey, we. We played a part in it. Our defense has had some mishaps and stuff like that. So it just. It's on all of us. You know, we. We just got to come together and figure out a Way to finish these games.
Shannon Sharpe
Been very tough for you guys. Your head coach got dismissed. Scatterbowl out for the season. You get Malik Neighbors out for the season. You get Jackson Dart. His situation with the concussions, he's out. Don't know if he's gonna. He gonna play this week. But somehow you guys still. Hey, you go out there and you fight hard. Like I said, you guys haven't been blown out, which tells me you guys are still fighting. You got. You have the makings. You have the makeup of guys. You have the right guys pulled together, but you guys just got to finish it. So how difficult has it been, the adversity? Because a lot of teams don't have to go through the adversity that you guys have gone through this year.
Wandell Robinson
Yeah, I mean, like you said, it's been. It's been difficult. But we, like, we come into work each and every week ready to go, believing that we're going to go out there and win that game. I feel like that's why we're in a lot of games. You know, we believe that we can win and we can play with anybody. So, you know, just kind of having to change that mindset at practice and making sure that we're finishing all the way through at the end of everything that we do just to make sure that we get the outcomes that we want.
Shannon Sharpe
I know Jackson Dart played baseball. Tell him to go steal second base and slide you. You're not gonna make no living. You're not gonna make a living. Wandell running over. Try to run over DBs and try to run over linebacker's alignment.
Wandell Robinson
Man, that's. That's just how he's built.
Joe Johnson
He.
Wandell Robinson
He's like, man, I feel like I'm a running back whenever you get that ball. And I'm like, look, you get down. No, but we gonna be all right.
Shannon Sharpe
I promise.
Wandell Robinson
You get as many yards as you need to and just slide.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, that's what I told. I said, look, he forgot. He was like, oh, I'm a quarterback. And then he got outside the pocket. No, I'm Derrick Henry. No, you not. No, you not. Like, because both of the team. New York team, look, the jets have been bad for a while, but we know you guys got four Super Bowls. And when the Giants are winning, the vibe is just like. There's a different type of vibe. The Knicks are winning even though they didn't get to the NBA, didn't get to the championship. But when the Giants are playing really well, man, New York is a different type of Vibe, cuz. Look, I know they like the Giants and Long island, all that stuff, but, I mean, excuse me, the jets, but New York is really a Giants. A giant city.
Wandell Robinson
Yeah, I mean, it's like you said, it's.
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Wandell Robinson
It's the Giants I witnessed in my rookie year going to the playoffs. It just feels a whole lot different up here whenever we're winning and want to be the. I want to be part of the reason that we get this thing back. Right? And, you know, people can be happy to come to our games and, you know, like you said, it'll feel a little different around here.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Right?
Shannon Sharpe
Well, hey, anything else, guys? You got anything else, Ocho? Joe?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, I got some. Hey, hey, tell us something, man.
Shannon Sharpe
We.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
We get. We get cats on here and we try to find out some hidden talents. You got any hidden talent?
Wandell Robinson
I'm just a gamer. That's. That's about all I do is play.
Shannon Sharpe
Whoa, whoa, whoa. What.
Joe Johnson
What kind of game? What are we talking about?
Wandell Robinson
I say, really?
Shannon Sharpe
With the big one I've been on.
Wandell Robinson
I'm on the ultimate team with college football. So. Anybody you on Xbox? See, I'm Listen PlayStation right here.
Joe Johnson
That's why they made everything crossplay. They made everything cross play whenever you want.
Shannon Sharpe
I see you big on FIFA.
Wandell Robinson
I used to play FIFA a lot, but none of my teammates. I haven't had too many teammates that play, so I stopped playing.
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Joe Johnson
Okay.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, you can. Hey, hey, you can get that work, though. Like, I play that. I play their PlayStation.
Shannon Sharpe
What y' all trying to play? We can.
Wandell Robinson
We can play.
Joe Johnson
Hey, play me in college football. I spot you 14.
Wandell Robinson
Don't. You don't want to do that.
Joe Johnson
This me.
Wandell Robinson
I'm telling you, you don't want to do that, man. Record online is like something like 640.
Joe Johnson
Wait, do you want. Do you understand who you're talking to?
Shannon Sharpe
I do.
Joe Johnson
I do.
Shannon Sharpe
Like, that's.
Joe Johnson
That's what I do.
Wandell Robinson
Yeah, yeah, I got it.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Ocho. That boy playing. Hey, that boy on that video game.
Joe Johnson
This is all I've been doing the past 40 years. He wasn't even born when I was gaming, right? Come on, man. Yo, this is what I do.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
All right, I got you.
Shannon Sharpe
Who do.
Joe Johnson
The rating for Madden, don't you. Yeah, you get. That's right.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, that's me.
Wandell Robinson
Actually, you know what? I need to go check my Madden rating.
Joe Johnson
Matter of fact, gotta get that.
Wandell Robinson
Gotta get that up.
Joe Johnson
And listen, after last week, I'll go in there internally and change it. You tell me what you want to Be I go in there myself and change. If I get fired, I don't even care because that impressive.
Wandell Robinson
Yes, sir.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, hey, Wonder, he ain't that good on the stick. Don't let him fool you. He tried to be good. He not. He not. He's where he can shoot pool. He swear he could be good on FIFA. Cod, Madden. He swear he can play all them games. He ain't like that.
Joe Johnson
Listen, my rep, my reputation is known very well in the gaming world. Don't listen to.
Shannon Sharpe
You.
Wandell Robinson
I'm happy to get back on the FIFA.
Joe Johnson
All right. All right.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, Wanda, stay healthy the rest of the season. Although the season hasn't gone the way you had hoped, you still finish out strong. Stay healthy, stay focused, and good luck the rest of the season.
Wandell Robinson
Now, I appreciate y'.
Shannon Sharpe
All, Appreciate you coming on, man. Thank you, bro.
Joe Johnson
Yes, sir.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yes, sir.
Shannon Sharpe
O Joe. Joe Burrow was asked about his mentality on why he still wants to play despite the Bengals being 3 and 8. Ocho, let's take a listen to what Joey B. Had to say.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
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Geno Smith
Yes, I understand why people feel that way. But you look at it from my perspective. I'm a football player, and.
Shannon Sharpe
If I.
Geno Smith
Get hurt, I'm going to go through the rehab process and then I'm going to let everybody know when I feel like I can go out there and play. I don't really know what else to say about that. I'm not gonna ever go to somebody and say, yeah, I'm healthy, but I don't think I should go out there and play it. That doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I'm not gonna live my life and play this game. Scared of something happening? Like, yeah, something's going to happen. It's football. Guys are going to get hurt. Guys are going to get concussions. You're going to break bones, tear ligaments. It's a physical, intense game. That's. That's part of this. And, yeah, I've had injuries. There's not a lot I can do about that. I work really hard to have that not happen. But what I can do is when it does happen, I can control how I'm attacking my rehab and attacking practice and doing everything in my power to get back as quickly as possible. That's what I did.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, that's.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, that.
Joe Johnson
That's my quarterback. That's quarterback number one. Hey, Joe. You heard him, Joe. That's my quarterback. I don't care that we losing. I don't care that we 3 and 8 or 3 and 9, whatever it may be, I'm a competitor. Certain things are out of my control. I play a very barbaric sport. I play a barbaric sport. And the chance of getting hurt. Not that the chances are good when you. Yeah, very high when you play this game.
Shannon Sharpe
Some.
Joe Johnson
Some players have been fortunate to be able to play it for a. A long time with no injuries. But everybody is not afforded that luxury. Therefore, when injuries do happen, what I'm gonna do, I'm attacked. Rehab and therapy the way I should so I can get back as fast as possible. Because I'm a competitor. I'm a football player. They're playing, they're paying me a lot of money to do one thing. Compete and play football and lead my team to wins. Sometimes they'll win. Don't turn out. But even those losses, you take those, you study film, you get back to the drawing board and you try the next week. And you know what's gonna happen on. Hey, Joe, you know y' all gonna lose tomorrow.
Shannon Sharpe
Y' all gonna keep this trend going.
Joe Johnson
My flight is 8 o' clock in the morning and I'm flying to Baltimore, Maryland. You hear me? And I'm gonna be. I'm gonna be at M T Bank Stadium tomorrow, 8 o'. Clock. Okay? Joe Burrow is going to be the starting quarterback. Joke. You know what we're gonna do? We finna put BTA built the ass. You hear me? No, I'm telling you, Joe, stop it.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Y' all finna go in Baltimore and.
Shannon Sharpe
Put on the show, man.
Joe Johnson
Joe Burrow coming back, boy. And we got UNO back. What you talking about? Hey, hey, hold on.
Shannon Sharpe
Listen to me.
Joe Johnson
Hey, you know who else playing tomorrow getting a little bit more reps because T. Higgins out. Mitchell Tinsley. Yeah, A82, Joe, if you ain't watch 82, he been making plays since the goddamn preseason. Everything is a highlight catch like this. What we talking about?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
So the opportunity to present itself. He ready?
Joe Johnson
Hey, you know, Joe, we can still make the playoffs, Joe, Right now, it'll be a difficult task. It'll be a tough task. Hey, hey, Joe, listen. All we got to do, win the division, boy. If we win this goddamn game tomorrow night, boy. Hey, the ship is on. You hear me? Hey, the ship is on. Hey, remember. Hey, remember the show was a little midget used to say the plane, deplane the plane.
Shannon Sharpe
What show is, huh? Fantasy Island. And to make sure we don't get in trouble. He meant little person.
Joe Johnson
Oh, my bad, right? What I said wrong?
Shannon Sharpe
You called him the N word. Which they say is derogatory, so we want to make sure we stay in the dictionary.
Joe Johnson
It's in the dictionary.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm just saying they don't want to be called that word. They want to be referred to as little people or a little person.
Joe Johnson
Oh, is that something new?
Shannon Sharpe
No, it's been in effect for about the last 15, 20 years.
Joe Johnson
Oh, my bad. My bad. I don't. I don't mean to offend any of the little people. My bad.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, okay. Yes.
Joe Johnson
Okay. Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
His name on the show was Tattoo. His real name was hers Villager.
Joe Johnson
Ah, then you know a name at all. But you watch Fantasy island, too?
Shannon Sharpe
I did watch Fantasy.
Joe Johnson
Oh, you remember Fantasy Island?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
No. I don't know. Hey, listen. Hey, look. Okay. Hey, look. I respect Joe Burrow for wanting to get out there and play. You know, obviously, I think we all know the money that he makes. But at the same time, you know, when we first started playing these.
Shannon Sharpe
This. This.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
This kid game when we were. When we were younger, football, basketball, I think we all pretty much played this sport, and it gave us, I want to say, a sense of freedom from anything you was going through. Right. You know, so now he's probably.
Joe Johnson
He just.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
He's dealt with these injuries. The most fun he probably have is when he's out there on the field.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I think he's really trying to get that feeling back. He's trying to rekindle that feeling outside of what he makes or outside what they can do as a team, whether they can make the playoffs or not. I think he just want the guys to know that, you know, he there for him, man, and that he wants to make this thing right. And if. And if they can make the playoffs, Ocho, obviously, he wants to be out there and lead and lead that charge. So I respect.
Shannon Sharpe
We get a paycheck, and the paycheck don't say, well, if you're potentially out of the playoffs, you can stop playing.
Joe Johnson
Yes.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
Right. We collect. We. We sign up, like, okay, we get hurt during the season. If at any point in time we can come back now, they might decide to say, no, we're gonna sit you down, but you do everything you possibly can to get back. When I broke my collarbone, Ocho, they didn't put me on IR because they said, well, what do you want? I said, well, give me a chance. Let me see if I can rehab and come back.
Joe Johnson
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
We started the season, oh, and four. And by the time I'd have got, I think we probably end up winning, like, four or five games. Right. I. No, no, that's not what I. I didn't sign up for just to play in good times or we winning, right? I signed up to play football.
Joe Johnson
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
And it doesn't matter the record. If I got hurt at some point early in the season and I was fortunate enough to be able to come back. I wanted to come back and play, and I did. I dislocated my elbow. Hey, I came back and played.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
We didn't make the playoff. We.
Odoo Advertiser
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Shannon Sharpe
We lost. I. I think we end up. We should have beat the Jets. But anyway, that's another story. But no, I have no problem. And I was joking. Don't you like, man, why that man coming back? But I get why he's coming back. Because he's a competitor. That's what we do. We compete.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
What do I look like? I'm healthy. I'm healthy as f. With six games to go and they out there fighting, huh?
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Nah, nah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
A real competitor, a real competitor can't sit back and watch.
Shannon Sharpe
No, you can't.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. No.
Shannon Sharpe
And that's not what we signed up. If we can play, we playing a lot of times. Think about the stuff that we play through now. He's, you know, he's coming off an injury. He's been out, what, nine, 10 weeks, but he's healthy and he's going to play. He wants to play. They want him to play. And if they have Ocho, if what you're saying is true, for them to have any chance of making a run, he's got to be at the helm. He's got a captain, the ship. Yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
And one thing about our captain. Huh? One thing about our captain. Yeah. Huh? Joe. Joe Sparrow. That's who it is, Joe, Huh?
Shannon Sharpe
But okay, I know you.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Joe.
Joe Johnson
Joe. Joe Sparrow. That's what it's going to be tomorrow.
Shannon Sharpe
Pirates of the Caribbean, huh?
Joe Johnson
Yes. We f to captain it.
Shannon Sharpe
We f. Tomorrow. Okay. Okay.
Joe Johnson
I know we got Ravens fans in the chat. You know, with all due respect, you know I love y'.
Shannon Sharpe
All.
Joe Johnson
I do everything, you know, with grace, and I always, always appreciate y' all and show y' all love. But tomorrow night at 8 o', clock, when it kicks off, at 8:15, when the clock hit, when it get about 10, 1005, I don't want to hear no crying. Don't be coming here making no excuses. Talk about the rest. Don't talk about. We cheated. Oh, we can't stop, Joe. You can't stop Chase. I'm telling you, it's going to Be bta, huh? Let's go.
Shannon Sharpe
I already know. Derek Henry. Derek Henry about to have 150 on who y' all saw our ass, man.
Joe Johnson
Listen. Hey, Demetrius Night.
Shannon Sharpe
You hear me?
Joe Johnson
Remember that name. Hey, hey, Joe. Remember?
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, he. He had the top of the leaderboard and missed tackles.
Joe Johnson
Hold on.
Shannon Sharpe
Y' all got five guys in the top 10 and missed tackles, both your middle linebackers and your safety. What position Geno Stone play? What position Stone play?
Joe Johnson
Hey, he plays.
Shannon Sharpe
What position he play. I'm asking you a question.
Joe Johnson
Hold on. Jordan. Jordan Battle is leading the Bengals and tackles. Okay? Don't worry about, you know. Hey, don't worry about Geno Stone. He gonna get a pick and take it to the house.
Shannon Sharpe
I ask you a simple question. What position does he play?
Joe Johnson
Safety.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, y' all got five guys in the top 10 and missed tackles. That might explain why your defense is good and terrible.
Joe Johnson
Okay? Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Both of your middle line, both of your linebackers in the top three. Hey, but that ain't none of my business, Joe. I only know why I brought it up. I apologize.
Joe Johnson
You know what? Everything is week to week. All them stats don't matter. All them stats don't matter week to week. This is a new game. This is a new week. So you talk about. You talk about stats that happened.
Shannon Sharpe
Y' all lost last week, y' all lost a week before that, the week before that, the week before that.
Joe Johnson
Hold on. Not only is it a new week, this is a division game. A division game where most of the time, you know, it's.
Shannon Sharpe
Y' all lost a bunch of them.
Joe Johnson
It's close. Well, listen, at some point, we gotta win. Why not tomorrow, huh?
Shannon Sharpe
No. Thanksgiving ain't no gang, yo. You don't got to.
Joe Johnson
Oh, no, we. Oh, we finna win.
Shannon Sharpe
The Washington. The Washington. The National. Who's that? The Washington Generals. Didn't win. Harlem Globes try to beat them every time. They lost 8, 000 consecutive games. So you ain't got to win.
Joe Johnson
All right? Are you gonna say, you know what? Hey, uncle, you talking real spicy. You talk. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
You got all the games they lost.
Joe Johnson
Keep that same energy. Keep that same energy with me on the show tomorrow night.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, that ain't going nowhere. I have my Ravens. Hell, but I. Worse. Yeah, there it is right there.
Joe Johnson
Don't worry about it.
Shannon Sharpe
You know, I'm gonna have Shelly ship my Raven shoes up here.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Had that same minute. I'm excited. I can't wait. And it's gonna. I don't know what it's gonna be like 30 degree Joe. You know it's gonna be a 30 degree Joe. I'm gonna be on the sideline.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, right. It get cold in Baltimore and in Cincinnati, so I don't know how the weather gonna impact anybody, man.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
What. What time them boys play? What time?
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, y' all got. Y' all got the afternoon game. What.
Joe Johnson
What.
Shannon Sharpe
What time for, like, 4:30?
Joe Johnson
Okay. Okay. Well, who the first game? Detroit. Detroit.
Shannon Sharpe
Detroit. Green Bay.
Joe Johnson
Green Bay. Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Okay. I'm excited. I can't wait. I can't wait.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Me too.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, you can wait. I mean, maybe when you. When your mom told you go tell your ass up, you're like, oh, I can't wait to get that. You like, y' all can wait. Well, you can wait. That ass cut sound good, but I mean, hey, ready? Gonna give you exactly what you're looking for.
Joe Johnson
Hey, you doing all that talking like you gonna be on the field. You ain't gonna be out there to help them. Yeah, you're not. And you not gonna be out there to stop Chase. You're not gonna be out there.
Shannon Sharpe
Y'. All. Ain't nobody gonna be out there. Stop. L watch. Oh, I can't buy a big stop. King Henry be coming out here.
Joe Johnson
Stop who?
Shannon Sharpe
King Henry.
Joe Johnson
The only person that gonna do something is eight. The only person that gonna do something for y' all is.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, they. They going for a hundred, man.
Joe Johnson
We finna lock, man. Hey, what.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, so you said. You said. You saying Derek Henry ain't gonna have.
Joe Johnson
A honey smack Derek Henry in his head. Man, we. Man, we ain't. Man, we don't. We don't even see that. You hear me? We don't. We don't even see that. We don't even see it. We standing on business, man, you talking about.
Shannon Sharpe
And you standing on the law.
Joe Johnson
I know it. I know it. And listen, I'm. I'm doing this trash talking out of respect and love. I'm not being malicious. I'm not being disrespectful. I'm just trying to let Ravens fans know what's gonna happen tomorrow night.
Shannon Sharpe
We already know what's happened every time Lamar Jackson played the Ravens. L for the L for the Bengals.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, all right. Keep that. You. You don't want to bet none.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't. Cause you already owe me. Let me. Let me get that.
Joe Johnson
I told you Christmas time. Hey, uncle, you so impatient.
Shannon Sharpe
It's been two years.
Joe Johnson
Hey, Joe. Worse than Sally Mae. Sally May been waiting on people to pay them goddamn loans for years. He talk about you know, they look 50.
Shannon Sharpe
You know what? I'm gonna send it. You know what? You know what? I'm done with it, Joe. I'm gonna send it to collections. I'm gonna let them deal with it. So when you credit. When you credit. 500. Five, right?
Joe Johnson
Five. Oh, man. Hey, don't do that to me. Don't do that.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm gonna see the collection. I mean, I'm tired of it. I mean, I should not have to beg this man, Chad. Y' all think I should have to beg this man? You're not about my money.
Joe Johnson
You're not even begging me.
Shannon Sharpe
He gonna give me my money on Christmas.
Joe Johnson
That's a good. That's a good gift.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm just trying to figure out, Chad, you go to work, your boss say, you know what? I ain't gonna pay you. I'm just gonna give you a bonus. No, no, no, no, no, no. That ain't how it worked. I want my paycheck, and I want it on top of a bonus. No, my paycheck ain't no bonus. What they do that? You know what? Just sit in the collection. I'll let them deal with it.
Joe Johnson
I got you, though. You my dog, man.
Shannon Sharpe
Nope. No. I'm tired. I'm tired. I can't. Hey, hey. The more people say, I can't go no further, can't go no further. Chat.
Joe Johnson
Hey, Joe.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm saying that's crazy. Chat. Hey, this man go give me my money as a Christmas gift. It's a Merry Christmas.
Joe Johnson
Hey, what, dude? Hey, Joe, what is the holidays for? What is Christmas about? Christmas is all about giving. It's all about giving.
Shannon Sharpe
You can't give me my own money. No, that's like shooting dice. You had to. Oh, Joe, when you gambling, if somebody. You rolling dice, you can't lend somebody money. And then he gonna tell me I got the fade. No, the f you don't, right? You ain't fit to fade me with my money. What they do that at, right?
Joe Johnson
You gotta understand, Joe, like I had. I had personal things I was taking care of. You know, I'm trying to. Trying to make this. This house a home. I'm trying to, you know, doing the kids rooms and try paying tuition. My daughter going to nursing school at University of Miami. My daughter, you know, she running track. You know, my son. I got my son in high school. You know, I know. I'm just. I. I'm. I got so many. Hey, Joe. I got so many different moving parts. I. I finished the pool. Now I'm. I'm putting. I'm putting this. You know, I'm doing the stairs now, right? You know I'm doing it.
Shannon Sharpe
You say you finished. You say.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You say you finished.
Joe Johnson
I finished the pools.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm just how that sounds, Joe, to you?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I. You know, I normally don't get it. No, I don't get it. For business about their money and what they. What they got going. Nothing. I don't do all that. That ain't what I do. But, boy, you. Hey, you taking care of a lot of stuff. And that man ain't trying to hear that. He wanted. He wanted.
Shannon Sharpe
I want to do my pool, too. I want to do something to myself.
Joe Johnson
Hey, Joe, I know I got. I gotta. I got, you know, I got a look, I got a few jobs and a few gigs, but I'm getting a little. A little. A little nice little lump sum from a bunch of jobs right before Christmas. And I'll be like, okay, boom. I got enough to hear.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, My money here. I tell you what. I tell you what else. Go get along your head if my money here in a week. A week? Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Not Christmas in two weeks, huh?
Shannon Sharpe
No, ain't no Christmas.
Joe Johnson
What's the. What's the day today, Joe?
Shannon Sharpe
The day. The 26.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Come on, Joe.
Joe Johnson
Oh, shoot. Well, we got. Oh, we got about another 20 days, huh?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You know, tomorrow.
Shannon Sharpe
No, we got a month, Ocho.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. And tomorrow Thanksgiving, Joe. But I'm giving thanks. I'm giving thanks to Mnt Bank Stadium, you know, And I'm.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm.
Joe Johnson
And we gonna get a Ravens thanks. Thank you for having us. Thank you for inviting us. Everybody. Everybody play for the Ravens. Gonna be turkey tomorrow. You hear me?
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Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yo, you know, Yo.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, I'm be watching.
Joe Johnson
Hey, the fact that you think Joe burrow finna come back and lose, that's the funny part about it. That's the funny part. How could you count us out? If nine back, Shiesty coming back, man. What did you talk about?
Shannon Sharpe
Just like I counted y' all out before. Just like last year, I counted you out and I told you what was gonna happen. I'm gonna continue to count you out. Guess what? This season's a wrap. We will say. Ocho, we spoke about this. Joe, you weren't here, but we spoke about the incident with Geno. Smith flipped off the Raider fans as he was running off the field today. Gino spoke about the incident. Let's take a listen to what Gino had to say.
Geno Smith
Gina, there was an incident after the game on Sunday.
Shannon Sharpe
Is there anything that you wanted to say about that, or.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, for sure. You know, first of all, I would like to apologize.
Shannon Sharpe
Apologize, obviously, to the fans, to the fan base of Raider Nation.
Joe Johnson
You know, I made a poor judgment out of.
Shannon Sharpe
Out of frustration, and, you know, that's not an excuse.
Joe Johnson
I've got to be better than that, and I've got to hold myself to a higher standard.
Shannon Sharpe
And in that moment, I didn't.
Joe Johnson
You know, I'm sincerely apologetic and, you.
Shannon Sharpe
Know, very sorry for, obviously, for doing that. And, you know, I just want to, you know, make it known that those.
Joe Johnson
Things will never happen for me again. Hey, that's tough. Yeah, that's real tough. Especially when things aren't going well. You have your fans born.
Shannon Sharpe
You.
Joe Johnson
You put in all that work in practice. Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday meetings, you know, hours and hours.
Shannon Sharpe
To be that bad, they ain't practicing and.
Joe Johnson
And things don't go right, then you got your fans booing you, and, you know, you're frustrated. Your office ain't. I mean, every. Ain't nothing working, huh? Ain't nothing working, and you got them booing you walking off the field. And again, like you say, when emotions are high, what logic is like, baby, it's low.
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, to be that bad. You ain't. You ain't practicing unless you practicing to be that bad. You seen the Raiders play?
Joe Johnson
Hey, come on.
Shannon Sharpe
I. I think the thing is, look, for me, boy. Look, I've been in Denver. They booed us. When you're not good, when you're not playing well, even if you're at home, you expect to get booed on. First of all, it's easy on the road because you. There's an expectation that you're gonna get booed. But if you don't play well at home, they're not gonna let you keep going out there. Drive after drive. Orcho stanking it up. They gonna boo.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, you right.
Shannon Sharpe
They gonna boost.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Now, the Raiders, it ain't drive after drive. It's game after game. Y' all stunk up the building. Give them something to cheer about.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Right?
Shannon Sharpe
And I get it. Like you said, it's. It's a situation. Everybody's frustrated. We're not playing well. They've already fired the oc. It'll be a lot more people that's gonna probably end up getting fired. Yeah, but.
Joe Johnson
It's rough over there.
Shannon Sharpe
I can't remember. I can't remember last time I flipped somebody up. I mean, I probably had to be in, like, junior high. People still do that.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Depending on who Depending on who you are.
Shannon Sharpe
Let's ash. I mean, I got ash. I be ash with my first slip off in, like, years. Like 25, 30 years. She deserved it.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, hey, hey. When you get emotional, man, you know, it has a tendency to take over. You know what I mean?
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah, But I ain't really never been my go to that. Ain't never been my thing. You know, like when you coming up in school and, you know, you flip somebody off, that was my thing. Now, have I said your mama a couple of times? Yeah. I tell you, man, I got the fire slapped out of me one time I said something. I was talking. We was in the field working, and, man, I was. I said, this girl said something. I said, your mama. And the girl standing next to me, wow, slapped the ish out of me. I said, her mama. She said, we got the same damn mama. That was the last time I said that. Yeah, but. Yeah, look, I. I think. Look, he addressed it today was the first day back. Probably should have addressed it Sunday night, because when it first happened, Ocho let everybody know, hey, look, there was an incident that happened when I ran off the field. I want to apologize to the fans, Raider Nation. That's, you know, my emotions got the best of me, and I want to apologize. You know, like you said, Ocho, sometimes you get in a situation, you don't really know how you react until you're in said situation.
Joe Johnson
Yes, sir.
Shannon Sharpe
It's easy to say from afar, I wouldn't do this or I wouldn't do that. You don't really know what you will or won't do until you're in that very, very situation. You know, people like, man, I wouldn't eat that. Well, you say that having. Having The. The luxury of having a choice of what to eat. But guess you what, when you don't have a choice, you got a choice to eat raccoon or eat nothing. Guess what you're gonna choose. You got a choice to eat rabbit or nothing. Squirrel or nothing. Vieno sausage or nothing. Turtle or nothing. Those are. That's your choice, Joe. That or nothing. Guess what? You're gonna choose every time.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, I mean. I mean something.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. You think I didn't want. Like my homeboy said, you think I didn't want no quarterhouse steaks? You think I didn't want no chicken, no lamb chops? Of course I did.
Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
That wasn't happening.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Now.
Shannon Sharpe
The only thing I wasn't gonna be eating with no chitlins, Miss Mackie eating cornflakes and my Grandma gonna say, because, you know, we got the big old box of cornflakes on your box about this big.
Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Ready?
Shannon Sharpe
So y' all eat all that cereal if you want to for the weekend.
Joe Johnson
I still don't understand. I still don't understand. You can eat raccoon, you could eat possum, but you scared you won't eat no chillings. I just don't understand, huh? I just don't.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Can't get by the smell, bro. It's the.
Shannon Sharpe
The smell. You can't.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I can't get past.
Joe Johnson
What you mean you can't get past the spare? Depends on who making the chillings. If they know how to clean them the right way. You'll be. You'll be fine.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It don't matter who. Well, hey. Well, you. You eat chitlins.
Joe Johnson
Me? Why eat everything. What you talking about? Do I eat chili?
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, I know you eat. I know you eat everything from the rooter to the T. Mainly the tutor on somebody that walk on two feet and walk. Come on, Dr. T. He be eating.
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Joe Johnson
Come on, y'.
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Joe Johnson
Come on. Cheers, Ocho.
Shannon Sharpe
You eat groceries.
Joe Johnson
You don't eat no ancho. No, Joe, you ain't.
Shannon Sharpe
No.
Odoo Advertiser
Come on.
Shannon Sharpe
Thank you, Joe, from the old guard. Oh, Joe. From the old guard.
Joe Johnson
Joe. No, Joe, I. I did amateur porn back in the day. And I used to be a stripper. So what you expect from me, Joe? What you expect?
Shannon Sharpe
I mean. I mean, Joe, I mean, the man kind of got a point. Cause you know, you in the front, you right around the corner. You might as well drop in slipping the tongue. Ain't nobody fault.
Joe Johnson
Y' all acting sassy on here. Like y' all ain't never did that. I'm let y' all slide. I'm let y' all slide.
Wandell Robinson
Don't do that.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I ain't gonna tell no lie to you. Cause it sound fly to you. I'm keeping it 100.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, we good. Oh, so everybody ain't got to do that. And everybody don't want that done to him.
Joe Johnson
Listen, listen.
Shannon Sharpe
Sometimes that's about what you're doing back to. Come on. From back there.
Joe Johnson
Nothing. Y' all. And y' all acting like rookies, man. Y' all acting like rookies. Hey, hold on. Listen.
Shannon Sharpe
I want to know who started that. Listen, that's what I want to know. I want to know who the first man to do that.
Joe Johnson
Adam. What you think Adam and Eve did man, what you. What you talking about?
Shannon Sharpe
That wasn't even somebody. Somebody like. You know what? Be good. I'm gonna get really freaky tonight. I tell you what. When I get to help, when I get to heaven, I'm tee off only.
Joe Johnson
Hey, do me. Hey, do me a favor, man. Listen, it's a new year coming up, right, Joe? Hey, uncle, it's a new year coming up. Yeah, I'm gonna send y' all my YouTube tutorial, man. Y' all could try that. Y' all haven't tried on your partners, man, and just spice up your relationship a little bit, man. God damn, man. Y' all tripping, man.
Shannon Sharpe
Whatever happened to a nice dinner? Whatever happened to sitting by?
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
That's all I'm saying.
Shannon Sharpe
And how the lights go and playing some nice music? When did it happen? When do we go to. When do we graduate to that?
Joe Johnson
You.
Shannon Sharpe
Y'.
Joe Johnson
All. Y' all talk about stuff way back from the 50s and 60s. Man, it's 2025, man. Ain't nobody going for that no more. Come on, man. You got to, man. Grab a by a hell man Ch. Man. Flip upside down, girl. Where's you going?
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Joe Johnson
Come on, man.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, I tell you what, Ocho. I got. I give a lick of the promise I hit a lick today and promise I'm gonna do better tomorrow, baby. That's all I got. That's all I got, Joe. Come on.
Joe Johnson
Hey, y'.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
All.
Joe Johnson
Hey. Hey, y' all disappointing me, man.
Shannon Sharpe
God, I'm sorry.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You disappointed I'm living.
Joe Johnson
Hey, no, Joe, you alive. Both of y'.
Shannon Sharpe
All.
Joe Johnson
Y' all alive, but you ain't living. There's a difference. There's a difference in being alive and actually living. You ain't living until you experience some of the things you refuse to do. Because all y' all stuck in the box. Get outside the box. There's so much.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I'll be stuck in the box. But you eat in the box. Yeah.
Joe Johnson
All right. You know it is. See, y'. All. Y' all acting like kids now, man. Come on, man.
Shannon Sharpe
There's some nice women out there that don't want that done to him, Joe.
Joe Johnson
I mean, it ain't NAM1. It ain't.
Shannon Sharpe
Now it is.
Joe Johnson
No, it ain't.
Shannon Sharpe
It ain't none out there chat. It's I believe. I believe it is.
Joe Johnson
They. They, they, they. You know what? I. I'm spoken for, so I don't know what's out there. I know. I know my home. You hear me?
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, we already know.
Joe Johnson
Hey, no. No games.
Shannon Sharpe
We already Know what you do.
Joe Johnson
Long as you know.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, sir, we already know you. Hey, again, listen, you'll strike a wildcat.
Joe Johnson
Hey, like the Tasmanian Devil. I'm gonna say, y'.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
All.
Joe Johnson
Y' all need to. Y' all need to open up your palate. Open up your palate a little bit, man. You know, y' all is. Y' all.
Shannon Sharpe
Everything ain't. Everything ain't meant to be eaten.
Joe Johnson
What do you think God put it down here for?
Shannon Sharpe
Not for that.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Then just because they say exit don't mean you can't enter.
Shannon Sharpe
Man, you put that baby, that. Would they call that tongue inside that baby, D. Put the baby. Hold on. So that's how you get them to fall for you.
Joe Johnson
No, no, no, no, no.
Shannon Sharpe
That's how they fall. That's right. That's how you get them. Because if you notice that one thing about my. One thing about my partner and co host, delivery city legend, the bingo ring of fame artery.
Joe Johnson
Yes, sir.
Shannon Sharpe
The man ready to justice, he go, hey, ever since I know him, he gonna keep a bad one on him. Now, my homeboy, I ain't seen him with nothing less than a 12.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, let me tell you. Let me tell you something.
Shannon Sharpe
That explains it.
Joe Johnson
Hold on, hold on, hold on. It ain't got nothing to do with that. The fact they. The fact that I look like a goddamn Mandingo warrior, You know, I look like I belong on the COVID gq, you know, See, y' all see me in my bummy state. You got to see me when it's.
Shannon Sharpe
Time to come that long, Joe. They call him Lizard.
Joe Johnson
Oh, here we go. Come on, man.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, they call him Lizard.
Joe Johnson
Nah, they ain't got nothing to do with it.
Shannon Sharpe
Nah, Ocho, I mean something, Ocho, you just gotta say. You know what? Hey, gotta draw the line somewhere, Ocho.
Joe Johnson
All right, listen, when you draw lines, it's supposed to be in the goddamn sand. That's it. That's the only place.
Shannon Sharpe
It don't cross it. It don't cross this line right here.
Joe Johnson
Nah, y'. All. Y'. All. Y' all ain't living, man.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, 55 of the women say they don't like it. Now, Ocho, hold on.
Joe Johnson
What? 55 of what? Women in the chat.
Shannon Sharpe
We put it up. They ain't lying. They selling the truth. They don't like it.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, hey, hey. But it's 45. That's pretty high, Uncle.
Shannon Sharpe
For. For the ones that look like damn, Joe, you thought it gonna be zero? About 50, 50s and 60s, Joe. Born in the 30s and 40s. Man, damn, Joe. I think I'm a little bit. Oh, I think I'm a little bit more adventurous than Joe. I finally found somebody that. That's less adventurous than me.
Joe Johnson
Hey, man, let me stop before y' all get me in trouble with my baby, man, because I know she's.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, y'.
Joe Johnson
All. Y' all gonna get me in trouble now. No, I don't. I don't.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, hey, but listen, I feel you, Ocho, but I know a couple Florida cats, too, boy. Hey, yeah, y' all some wild boys, man.
Joe Johnson
Hey, Joe, we not wild, Joe. We just living.
Shannon Sharpe
We are living. I'm living. Hey, I'm living. We living, y'. All.
Joe Johnson
Y' all ain't living. You just doing things that are comfortable with you. You have to learn to be comfortable being uncomfortable. And y' all just not. You stuck in this one box, this one little space, and you don't want to go nowhere. I'm telling you, I'm gonna send. I'm email you my YouTube tutorial and step by step in ways to improve the other side of your life. Just send me $20. I got you. I'm gonna send it to you.
Shannon Sharpe
Put the pol.
Joe Johnson
Baby, I. Baby, I ain't got nothing to do with that. That's.
Shannon Sharpe
I ain't got nothing to do with it. Well, I ain't got. I ain't got nothing to do with nothing. Oh, yeah, we had to close. Put that pole down. Ain't nobody doing it but Joe. I mean. Oh, but, but, But Joe is a little bit more old school, a little bit more archaic than me, and that's saying something.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Nah, I'm gonna tell y' all what it is. It's the.
Shannon Sharpe
It's.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
See, y' all football cats, y' all a little different. Y'.
Joe Johnson
All.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Y' all operate a little different from basketball.
Shannon Sharpe
What you mean, y'?
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I'm gonna keep it 100. Y' all a lot freaky.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, probably so.
Joe Johnson
I ain't got nothing to do with it.
Shannon Sharpe
We stronger. We stronger, though, Joe. So.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, so you.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah.
Joe Johnson
Nah, nah, nah, nah.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, Ojo. I already know. I already know.
Joe Johnson
Listen, it's so funny. I could tell y' all a quick story. You know the movie. The movie. You saw the movie Christian Gray, huh? Not tell me about the movie Christian Gray. Damn. What's the name of that goddamn movie chat? Fifty Shades of Gray. Well, on go Fifty Shades. Yeah. Fifty Shades of Gray. So, you know, I, I, I tried to audition for that, so I didn't realize. I didn't realize that they wanted someone Caucasian, of. Of a lighter complexion.
Shannon Sharpe
What was that?
Joe Johnson
What you doing with that?
Shannon Sharpe
That what I'm saying? I'd be walking around.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, he said. He said he. He got all the muscles for that.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, Joe. Hey, she ain't got one leg. It don't matter. You know what I'm saying? It don't even matter. Joe.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, man, you said, why? Hey, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Why the hell you got a goddamn skeleton? Halloween. Halloween was last month.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Well, he going over anatomy.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, Ocho.
Joe Johnson
Huh?
Shannon Sharpe
There was a real person. But you know, O', Shea, when Shay touched down, she tried to go 12 rounds with the champ. As you can see, she lost. Hey, I told y'. All, I chat. I was supposed to wait till 2026. I told y', all, man.
Joe Johnson
But what. Hey, listen. Hey, let me tell you something.
Shannon Sharpe
What.
Joe Johnson
What happened in the past, in the past. We can't wait for 2026 because tomorrow's not promised. Ain't no telling if we're gonna be able to enjoy these moments. So while we can enjoy them, well, we better goddamn laugh at it, have some fun, and go ahead and keep on living bad.
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I'm with you when you riot, Ocho.
Shannon Sharpe
Yep. All right. No Ocho. But Joe. Hey, me and Josie. That's why Joe and I can hang together. I can't hang with you.
Joe Johnson
You can hang with me, too.
Shannon Sharpe
No.
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Joe Johnson
Honestly.
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Host: Shannon Sharpe
Co-hosts: Chad Johnson (Ochocinco), Joe Johnson
Special Guest: Wan’Dale Robinson
Main Theme: NFL headlines, player dynamics, and candid athlete conversations
This episode of Nightcap with Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson, and ISO Joe Johnson delivers the familiar lively “barbershop” energy as they tackle timely NFL headlines and welcome New York Giants wide receiver Wan’Dale Robinson for a candid interview. Topics include media stunts, locker room dynamics, player motivation in difficult seasons, and candid lifestyle banter.
“…It’s hard for me to believe that…not one person was going to ask about the relationship. Now, he’s mature enough because, hell, his dad…he understands that everything that he says is going to be scraped over with a fine-tooth comb...” — Shannon Sharpe (09:05)
“I think those guys play a little harder when he’s out there… The way he leads, man, it just oozes confidence…” — Chad Ochocinco (16:45)
"Here’s a man that…grew up in a 30,000 square foot home…had every reason to kick my damn heels up and not…work, but that’s not what I wanted." — Shannon Sharpe (20:33)
Guest Segment Highlights:
“I just try to come into work each and every day with the same mindset…always being available for our quarterbacks.” — Wan’Dale Robinson (37:44)
“It just comes down to studying…using my strengths to my advantage…and once guys…can’t get their hands on me, then it’s kind of raps.” — Wan’Dale Robinson (39:54)
Rapid Fire:
“I’m not gonna ever go to somebody and say, ‘Yeah, I’m healthy, but I don’t think I should go out there and play.’ That doesn’t make a lot of sense to me.” — Joe Burrow (52:16)
“When emotions are high, logic is low.” — Joe Johnson (69:22)
The Nightcap episode succeeds in mixing authentic football analysis with locker room banter. Listeners enjoy player insights, personal stories, debates about media narratives, and plenty of humor and “real talk”—the type that makes fans feel like they’re in the room with pro athletes.
For those who missed the episode:
You get the highs and lows of NFL culture, a player perspective on daily adversity, and the work ethic that keeps athletes grinding, even when the scoreboard or the standings aren’t in their favor.
Note:
Banter often jumps from football to lifestyle topics; timestamps above are for main content. Ad breaks, show intros, and outros were omitted for clarity.