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Chad Johnson
Hey, Unc. I just got one more job too. Joe.
Joe Johnson
What'd you got?
Shannon Sharpe
What you got?
Chad Johnson
They just had me as the assistant to the assistant manager at the USPS postal office over there in Weston.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, I went. I went to my interview today and I go to the. My interview again in two more days.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, I tell you what, give me a couple of books of stamps while you over there.
Chad Johnson
You know, I get a discount on them, too.
Joe Johnson
Hold on. So you'll be working at the post office?
Chad Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. As a manager, I oversee. I oversee the flow and all and all the deliveries coming in and going out.
Shannon Sharpe
Do me a favor. When you're in the mail room.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Hold them envelopes like this here.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
If you see something in there that, that we can do something with, I know somebody that can make it happen.
Quinshon Judkins
Okay.
Chad Johnson
I got you.
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho, they got a place for you too.
Joe Johnson
You going. You're going to.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm telling you, you're going to jail.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
Hey, listen, as long as you put some on my commissary, I'm good.
Shannon Sharpe
I got you. I got you the money that. Hey, the money that we take in, right. 4% of it go to your commissary. 4%.
Chad Johnson
Hold on.
Shannon Sharpe
Member of our team. He's back after three months vacation. He got his Internet working. Bin Laden had better Internet service than that lumber bar. But you know what? He got it back. It's good. Now he ain't in the tunnel. That is high. So, Joe. Joe Johnson. Joe. Glad to have you back, man.
Joe Johnson
Hey, good to be back with y'.
Chad Johnson
All.
Joe Johnson
Hey, this leg. Hey, this leg getting better and better every week, fellas. I'm getting back.
Shannon Sharpe
That's all we need to hear. That's all we need to hear. Gonna be up and moving around in no time.
Joe Johnson
I'm already moving.
Shannon Sharpe
You already moving around.
Joe Johnson
Man, stop playing. Come on.
Shannon Sharpe
Wow.
Chad Johnson
Hold on, hold on, hold on. Have you. Have you been able to test that leg out against in any competition, though?
Joe Johnson
Trying to do that right now, Ocho?
Shannon Sharpe
As long as I can walk with comfort, right?
Joe Johnson
That's where I'm at right now.
Chad Johnson
Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
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Joe Johnson
Yeah, two. Two days out the week, Tuesdays and Thursdays. I go in on Tuesday, Thursday get that work in. And you know, I do a lot of stuff on my own too as well.
Shannon Sharpe
So. Yeah, that's what you got to do. Hey, you know what?
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah, That's.
Shannon Sharpe
That's how I do it. Once I find out what they was doing.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, I do the same thing on my time off, maybe add a little stuff. Oh, yeah.
Joe Johnson
It's the same thing as like, you know, like if you only get better when you go to practice, then you're only gonna be so good, you know.
Shannon Sharpe
If you don't do, then you won't.
Joe Johnson
Be that great, you know, What I mean, right? So I know a lot of stuff that I need to do here on my own at my house. And when I get to therapy, bro, I'll be ready. I'll be ready. That's like the highlight of my. Of my week.
Shannon Sharpe
Yep.
Chad Johnson
I like it.
Shannon Sharpe
All right, guys, we're gonna get into it. Russell Wilson, he clapped back at his former coach, Sean Payton at the post game comments praising Jackson Dart.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Let's take a listen to what Peyton had to say. You know, they found a little spark with that quarterback.
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Shannon Sharpe
Too long ago and I said we.
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Were hoping that that change would have.
Shannon Sharpe
Happened long, long after our game. Russ tweeted back, classless but not surprised. Didn't realize you still bounty, honey. Bounty hunting 15 plus years through the media. Let's ride. Now, Sean Payton later responded today that he was just talking about, you know, he was praising Jackson Dart.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Now, he mentioned that he had talked to John Mara several weeks earlier, before they even played, before they had even made this switch. God. Y' all know I'm Bronco through and through. Like Sean Payton. I know Sean Payton. We had a very, very close mutual friend, Mike Ornstein. Mike Ornstein passed away.
Chad Johnson
Rest in peace.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, I know Sean very well. No, you didn't have to. Everybody knows how you feel about Russ. Yeah. Russ probably feel the same way, but would never say anything. I'm a little surprised Russ even responded to this. I like it, Ocho. But here's the thing. You'll only be able to take so much. Yeah. Because what you see is just like they keep going and keep going and keep going. And then up here, are you weak? You weak? So Russ responded. I don't have a problem with Russ, with Russ saying, but, Sean, come on now, Ocho, are you surprised Russ responded and are you surprised this thing has really taken. Got legs and kind of like started running on its own?
Chad Johnson
I like the fact that it has legs. I like the fact that it has legs. Sean Payton, he already tried Russ on the sideline. He tried Russ on the sideline, berating him and talking trash to him, actually provoking Russ, hoping he would break character, hoping he would show a different side than who he actually is. He kept calm, mild mannered. Now he takes shots at him again.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
For no reason at all. And I love Russell Choir boy Wilson, but I love the fact that he stood. He stood up for himself. Russell Wilson. Matthew 5:39. In the Bible, it says turn the other cheek. Well, this time Russ said he, I done ran out of cheeks. I'm finna clap back. I'm gonna fire back at you.
Quinshon Judkins
I'm.
Chad Johnson
I'm finna stand up for myself. And I like him showing some. Some enthusiasm and getting in the fire for a change instead of just letting you know, let it be water off a duck's back, man. Talk your shit, Russ. It's okay. It's okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Guess what?
Chad Johnson
What?
Shannon Sharpe
Ain't no person named Shannon in the Bible. I ain't in there. You keep talking back, taking your cheap shots at me, I'm gonna put something on you. Come on, now. And that's what Russ did. Remember? Remember, Ocho?
Chad Johnson
Come on, Russ.
Shannon Sharpe
At some point in time, enough has to made your point, right? You didn't want me. You moved on. You have a quarterback in b. Knicks that seems to be that. He's the guy for the Broncos future. I've gone to two. This is my second team since I've left the Broncos. Yeah, I ain't bothered nobody. Russ, you. You could like or dislike Russ, but the one thing that. You can't say that he's not bothering anybody. He's not talking down. He's not saying anything negative about anybody. So my thing is why, hey, let.
Chad Johnson
Me say, Uncle Joe. Russell Wilson, if you want to talk about quarterbacks and the way to conduct yourself as a professional athlete on and off the field, he's a consummate pro. He is the ultimate pro when it comes to doing your job, going to work, being a family man, being a husband, doing everything the right way.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Chad Johnson
The fact that he finally got outside of his character for a change is exciting for me. I like it. I enjoy it. Because. Now, listen, at some point, you gotta. You gotta put a nail in the coffin. Because you don't put a nail in the coffin, they gonna keep digging your grave.
Joe Johnson
I agree.
Chad Johnson
They gonna keep. They gonna keep on digging your grave and keep digging at you for no reason. There's no reason for. And I know Sean Payton as well. There's no reason for you to do, you know, do that. But you understood. Listen, I got it. I gotta send up. I got an easy duck. He ain't gonna say nothing. He ain't gonna fire back. But finally, we get a new Russell Wilson. I love this. I love this Russell Wilson and Russell. I know you're gonna see this. Anybody else say something, you better fire off of their ass, too.
Shannon Sharpe
Go ahead, Joe.
Joe Johnson
Hey, I. I agree with both of y'.
Quinshon Judkins
Alls.
Joe Johnson
I think, you know. You know, I think Russ is. Is more so, like, you know, enough is enough. Man, he ain't saying nothing. He's been going about his way, you know, tending to his business, and they still taking cheap shots at him. I'm with him, man. I'm glad he responded. I'm glad he said something.
Shannon Sharpe
Be petty, Betty, go back at him. It doesn't matter how mild mannered a person is. Eventually, yeah, eventually you look at. I mean, you look at any animal, it might be. Even. Even the dog might, you know, you see it. But after a while, he's gonna lash out at you.
Quinshon Judkins
Oh, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
It's going to lash out because it's only going to take so much. So he, Russ, felt that, okay, former teammates have been taking shots at him, you know, X, Y, and Z, and saying all these things. And now he's like, bro, how much, how much more. How much more crap do y' all want to dump on me and say, man, y' all just pouring perfume on me.
Joe Johnson
Listen.
Shannon Sharpe
Because at some point in time, Ocho, enough is enough.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
You've made your point. Okay. Okay. I'm fine. I, I, I get it. I get it. I didn't. I didn't live up to the expectations that I had. The coaching staff, the organization, or the fan base of Denver. I didn't meet those expectations. I accept that. But I'm gone. There's no need. There's no reason for you to mention you can praise Jackson Dart.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Without taking a dump on me.
Joe Johnson
Absolutely. Absolutely. Hey, look, praise.
Shannon Sharpe
Praise your guy, but why would you have to take a shot at me? And you. Like I said, he said that he was just praising Jackson Dart. But you said that you had talked to John Mara, who's one half of the owner of the Giants, weeks ago. Even if he had done that, he could have kept that to himself.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
He didn't have to share that. He didn't have to share that. Ocho. Joe, he could, he could have just said what he said, like, you know, and maybe with his coaching staff or with his close buddies, when he's having a drink. I told you, I told John. I was like, man, I hope y' all make that, make that change after us, because it's just a matter of time.
Chad Johnson
Right?
Shannon Sharpe
Cool. And nobody, the way Jackson Dart is playing, I don't think anybody's upset that they made this move. I told Ocho. I said, ocho, over under eight weeks. I said, I'm looking like I'm taking the under. Ocho just said, no. I said, I'm taking the under.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Because I had seen enough and I've Seen enough in the preseason. I said, ocho, they're going to make this. Make this change sooner than later. Yeah, yeah, but I just don't.
Joe Johnson
I don't.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't. You know, the continuation of beating down Russia, it's unnecessary. And what is that? I know you're excited. Oh, Joe. You know, we win a game. Oh, Joe. We win a game. Yeah, we beat them. Sorry, Raps. Yeah, yeah, but we thought y' all had us. Didn't. Hey, 33 in the 4. 33. I get all that. But come on, now. Winners. Enough. Enough. Ocho. How. How. How much am I supposed to take?
Chad Johnson
I like it. Hey. Matter of fact, he should have cursed in the tweet. Go all the way there.
Joe Johnson
It wasn't enough for you?
Chad Johnson
Nah, listen. I like it. Listen. He fired back, but he fired back in a professional manner.
Joe Johnson
Absolutely, man.
Chad Johnson
Come on, man. Hey, Russ, next time, man. Man. Man. What I put. Let me put your tweet together. I'll put the tweet together for you.
Shannon Sharpe
Nah, hell, dog.
Joe Johnson
Hey, listen, but what was it about? Why was Sean Payton bring that up? Honestly, like, what did that have to do with anything?
Shannon Sharpe
Listen, this is all about the privileges that was bestowed upon Russ. Before Sean Payton got there, I said some things, and everybody called me a lie. I was talking me and Ocho, and I was having a conversation, and everybody wanted to tell me, shannon, you don't know what's going on because you're not there. I said, you do realize I'm still held in very, very high regard in Denver, right? You actually think I would say something like this and it not be the gospel. I say, hey, I'm Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. When I speak about something coming out of Denver or Baltimore, it's the gospel. I don't really talk too much about it because y', all, they know, but they try to undermine me and try to say, you not in the locker room or you don't know what I'm talking about. But y' all don't realize how often I call around the league and. And a lot of things that's going on, that's get reported, that ain't my job. I ain't Adam Shefter. I don't try to be. I'm not Jay Glazer. I don't try to be, but I know a lot more than what I say. And when it comes out like they got mad, I said it. Sean got there when the organ, when they were explaining the privileges that Russ got. Sean like, are you hitting me? Are you kidding? Me, it's like, no, we. Like, we thought that he's like, no, that is not normal protocol. Nobody in the history had ever had a situation like that. And from that point on, once he heard that it was over, he would have needed to throw for 50 touchdowns, 4,000 yards and get him to the AFC championship. Other than that, it wasn't going to work. So instead of trying to listen to what I was trying to say, try to explain what was transpiring and why so many people were out on Russ in Denver, they wanted to talk about, oh, you talking bad about a black man. You wouldn't say that about a white guy. When I had called Tom. When I had called Tom Brady and Peyton Manning and Tony Romo and Aaron Rodgers and all these other quarterbacks. But, see, long as I'm talking about them, it's fine, right? All I was saying. I didn't say Russ was a bad person. I said he got privileges and it made his teammates feel a certain type of way. We on Ocho, we know who makes the money. Yeah, but just because you make more money, we don't want you getting privileges. We don't want you having offices that none of us like. Hold on. Really?
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
So from that point on, Sean felt some type of way. He felt some type of way. And I get it. I get it. But that man been gone for two years now. It's time to let that go. Yeah. Yeah, Joe, you know what it is?
Joe Johnson
What's that?
Shannon Sharpe
It's the same thing with Melo and George Carl, George Carr keep on poking Mellow Melo, don't mention George Carl. But every chance he gets, he tries to poke Melo, Melo's gonna have to look. Melo's gonna have to draw a line in the sand and say, mo, fo. If you step across this line again, I'm gonna have to unleash.
Joe Johnson
You know, he ain't got no problem doing that. You know, Mello ain't got no problem drawing that line.
Shannon Sharpe
He's gonna have to, because every time, every time, he's always speaking negative. Oh, they couldn't win no championship with that guy. He wouldn't play defense. He wouldn't do this. I get it. You don't like Melo. Everybody is not gonna like everybody. But, bro, you hadn't coached Melo in damn near two decades. What is the issue now? Can we just move on?
Chad Johnson
I mean, obviously, at that point, it'd be better if coaches come out, especially when they continue to do this and they have things to say. Years removed From. From dealing or coaching a certain individual. Why don't you just come out and say, you know what? I don't even like this individual. And it's personal. It had nothing to do with the sport. It had nothing to do with basketball, had nothing to do with football. Nothing to do with him playing quarterback or whatever it may be. I just don't like him. And that's okay. It would be. It would be better suited for us as a public and fans of these sports to come out and have Sean pay say, you know what? I just don't like Russell Wilson.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know.
Chad Johnson
I don't know what it is about him. I just don't like him or George Carl. You know what? I don't like Carmelo.
Shannon Sharpe
Maybe what's understood don't need to be spoken.
Quinshon Judkins
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
You know? Yeah, man. I. I don't. I don't. Well, if. Say if. If. If somebody continuously cheating on the other party.
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Shannon Sharpe
What. What does he need to say? What does she need to say?
Chad Johnson
None.
Shannon Sharpe
You keep doing what you're doing when you know it's wrong.
Chad Johnson
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't need. I don't need no. No Harvard attorney to try to read between the lines.
Chad Johnson
Yes, sir.
Shannon Sharpe
You're telling me the mere fact that you keep taking shots at me publicly is one thing. If it's getting back to me, Ocho. But the mere fact that you're putting it in print, you're. The mere fact that you keep saying it publicly, I can read it for myself. I can see it for myself, tells me that how you feel about me. But I didn't. I already knew that. I'm like, I've been trying to take the high road, try to remain. Remain professional. I'm trying to build a brand. I don't want to do anything to tarnish that. But, hey, bro, I understand. That's not what you are. You don't try to build a brand. You're not really on television. People go to you when they want to get. They want to get clicks. They want to get rage bait material. They'll come to you and you'll say something. Melo is one of the 75 greatest players to ever play in the NBA. We understand what Melo is now. He's a Hall of Famer. So automatically, if somebody says something negative, that's going to get picked up. That is Melo. That's his former coach. I just don't get it. We don't have to like all of our teammates. We don't have to like all of our Coaches. I had a great relationship with all the coaches. Maybe one or two I didn't really jive with. And. Yeah, it's okay. But I would never say anything publicly.
Joe Johnson
Absolutely.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, look. Or a teammate.
Joe Johnson
It's only so much, bro. It's only so.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, bro. Bro, I'm 57. I got grands now. But what I'm talking about what happened 25, 30 years ago. Yeah. What purpose does that serve in a negative light? Yes.
Chad Johnson
Yeah. Not at all. Not at all. I mean, listen, I get along with everybody. I'd assume.
Shannon Sharpe
I try to.
Chad Johnson
I'd assume everybody loves me the same way I show love. There's only one person I don't get along with. And if I ever see him, it's on site and.
Quinshon Judkins
Huh?
Chad Johnson
What'd you say, Joe?
Shannon Sharpe
Who was that?
Joe Johnson
You don't want to say.
Quinshon Judkins
You don't want.
Chad Johnson
Oh, James Harrison.
Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chad Johnson
Like it's personal. It's personal and I say it every day, and I. I let her know. I can't wait to see him. Obviously, he doesn't live here in Miami, but the only place I probably see him on what, maybe Super Bowl. Yeah, I'm sure we'll probably cross. We'll cross paths, maybe, you know, radio row or some like that. And I. He either he gonna have security or it's just. It's just gonna be a thumping session.
Joe Johnson
Ocho, I don't know if you want to climb that tree, man.
Chad Johnson
Hey, one thing. One thing about me. Hey, hey. Let me tell you something. Hey, Joe, in high school, they called me Paul Bunyan. You hear me? I used to. Hey, I'm chopping every. I'm chopping everything down.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey.
Chad Johnson
All the trees.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, hey. As you play a partner, man, I'm trying. Listen, you might want your pass on that one, bro.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, hey, hey, Joe, brush up on your NFL knowledge.
Joe Johnson
What you want to know? I seen a.
Shannon Sharpe
No, I'm just saying. Cause I might need a new partner.
Joe Johnson
Okay, okay. Say less, say less, say less, say less. I'm with you.
Chad Johnson
Hey, the fact that y' all don't have no faith in me, man. Y'.
Shannon Sharpe
All.
Chad Johnson
Y' all not. Y' all not Christian.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, hey. Basically saying you're gonna be concussed. You're gonna be out. You're gonna be out for the rest of this.
Shannon Sharpe
I'll be. No, we gotta. Look, we got other. We got other business ventures that we're trying to get to, Ocho.
Chad Johnson
Oh, we gonna get there no matter what. We gonna get there no matter what.
Shannon Sharpe
I Mean, if you can't talk for.
Chad Johnson
Like, six months, man, trust me, I'm gonna be okay. You. Hey, listen, if you see me in a fight with a bell, you might want to help. The bell.
Quinshon Judkins
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, I don't need no partner when he move in the chair like this here.
Joe Johnson
You hear me? I can't.
Shannon Sharpe
I can't use no partner like that. I need a real partner. Somebody to go laugh and joke and get up out the chair.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, hey, Ocho, I got. I got a question. What's your game plan, though? Like, what Y'. All. Y' all getting in the Octagon? What y' all doing?
Chad Johnson
Hey, listen, listen. Octagon street boxing ring. It don't matter on site.
Shannon Sharpe
It.
Joe Johnson
It.
Chad Johnson
It don't matter, Joe. Like, I'm. I. I'm at that point, like, I'm kind of frustrated because I keep challenging him, and he really don't want no smoke. He's not responding. That lets me know. I mean, all that size and muscle don't mean nothing, man.
Joe Johnson
Okay, hey, hey, from me to you, bro. Just keep your distance. Stick and move. Don't.
Chad Johnson
Hey, that.
Shannon Sharpe
That's.
Chad Johnson
Hey, Joe.
Shannon Sharpe
That's what I'm gonna do.
Quinshon Judkins
Joe, don't.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, there you go.
Chad Johnson
Hey, hey, look at. Look at my rain got there.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
You know, I'm gonna keep him at a distance. Yo, like, I might. I might get mid ranging now and get close up on him.
Joe Johnson
No, no, don't do that. Don't do that. No, no, don't get close.
Shannon Sharpe
Keep that distance. Use that jab.
Joe Johnson
You gotta use that jab, baby.
Chad Johnson
Hey, hey, Joe, I'm. Use that thing, Joe. I'm gonna use it. I'm telling you, man, let's. Hey, listen. Hey, one thing about it.
Quinshon Judkins
God always.
Chad Johnson
Been on my side, you hear me? And all my.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm on your side.
Chad Johnson
I'm saying I'm gonna pull him off you. I mean, but y' all sound like y' all ain't on my side. Y' all telling me I'm gonna be hurt and I ain't gonna be able to talk. And.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, it ain't gonna be. Ain't looking good.
Chad Johnson
All right?
Shannon Sharpe
But no, what we try to do, Ocho, we trying to keep you safe.
Chad Johnson
I'm. I'm safe. When I get in the car, I put my seatbelt on. When I walk out the door, I say a prayer. Every morning I roll out of bed. Whether I roll out the left side or the right side, I say me a prayer. So every time I walk up and. And I Pray I'm always safe. God.
Shannon Sharpe
You don't get out the same side of the bed every morning. Huh? You don't get out the same side of the bed.
Chad Johnson
Now, sometimes I roll to the left. I roll to the right, depending on what side she on.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, okay. Yeah, I get on the same side. It don't matter.
Joe Johnson
Me, too.
Shannon Sharpe
No, no. Hell no. I'm sleeping outside.
Chad Johnson
Well, God damn, what size bed y' all got?
Quinshon Judkins
All right.
Shannon Sharpe
No.
Chad Johnson
Who.
Shannon Sharpe
Who sleeps in the middle of the bed? I sleep on one side.
Chad Johnson
No, I don't sleep on the edge of the bed because I might fall out. You don't. You don't. You don't toss and turn.
Joe Johnson
No.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, yeah, I see my beds. I got a twin. What's besides y' all bed.
Joe Johnson
Oh, man, stop.
Shannon Sharpe
I got a king bed that.
Joe Johnson
Man.
Shannon Sharpe
What you. What you sleeping on the full size?
Chad Johnson
I got a twin.
Joe Johnson
Boy, you ain't had no twins since you was in college.
Shannon Sharpe
You ain't exactly. Time out.
Chad Johnson
Hold on, wait, hold on. I'm not playing. Wait. Y' all got king size beds, man?
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Chad Johnson
You know how much that cost?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Oo. I. I got to have a king size.
Chad Johnson
Oh, but Joe, you.
Shannon Sharpe
Joe, you probably got a California king. Your feet be hanging out the bed, Joe.
Joe Johnson
There you go, baby. There you go.
Chad Johnson
Hey, King. Hey, listen, the king bed costs so goddamn much. I just got. I got the cheapest one, and then. You know how much a mattress is?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, no, and you don't have to buy no mattress. You don't have to buy no mattress but once every 10 years.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, they made a apostropedic mattress, man. Was like $4,000 for a king bed. I'm like, oh, I'm cool. Give me the twin.
Shannon Sharpe
My mattress. I got one of the mattresses, Ocho, that read. It'll tell you how long you slept, how long you was in a deep sleep, how long you was in the rim. It'll keep if. If your bed get hot, it'll cool it down for you. It'll make adjustments.
Joe Johnson
You got your memory phone?
Chad Johnson
Huh?
Joe Johnson
You got one of the memory foams over there?
Shannon Sharpe
No, I got one of. You know, one of those. One of those space age beds.
Chad Johnson
Hey, hey, hey, what they would. They run. How much would them run?
Shannon Sharpe
A little sauce, you know, a little something.
Chad Johnson
You know, they come in twin.
Joe Johnson
Hey, what. Hey, hey, Ocho, why you be trying to act like you can't spend 4, 5 grand on the bed, Man, I.
Chad Johnson
Ain'T spending no on the bed, Joe. Who do that? Look, look, come on, man, you ain't doing nothing but sleeping and shagging on there anyway.
Shannon Sharpe
That's what I'm saying. It'll tell me how long I was in a rim sleep. It'll tell me how long I was in a deep sleep. It'll tell me how. How long I snored. It'll say you snored 35 minutes last night. You snored 50% less than normal.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. It'll tell you what time you fell asleep.
Chad Johnson
I have a question. Even if that bed has all those features and has all those amenities that it comes with, I'm sure it cost a pretty penny. What are you going to do with that information?
Shannon Sharpe
5,900. That's how much the bed cost.
Chad Johnson
That's a whole lot.
Shannon Sharpe
What you mean? Oo. What you mean, what I'm gonna do with that information? It'll tell me. It. It. Guess what it says your best time to work out is between the hours of 1 and 5.
Chad Johnson
You don't tell you that your body. Your body will tell you that your body exactly when the best time.
Shannon Sharpe
That's what it's telling me. It's the same reason they put all that stuff in your shoulder pads and they track everything that you do at practice now, right? You dehydrated, you need more hydra. See, the more information you have.
Chad Johnson
Hey, you. You want me. Want me to tell you. You want me to tell you why they track everything now? Because they understand, see, their pros and their cons of that and them tracking everything they understand. When you get to a certain amount of mileage. Yeah, this car, he ain't no more good. That's all it is.
Shannon Sharpe
That man, he tracking that upstairs. Yeah, they listen.
Chad Johnson
They try to. They try to make it seem like it's a good thing, but they tracking all this stuff. So where his speed ain't what it used to be. Yeah, we might need to watch him. It's about. We might want to get rid of him and get some good for.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, they get. They put it in your pads, Ocho. Huh? They put that in your shoulder pads.
Chad Johnson
Yeah. And. And the catapult, you know, the catapult thing? Yeah, yeah, man.
Shannon Sharpe
And. And the bed. And, you know, I like it to be about somewhere between 66 and 68 degrees. So, you know, as you lay down, I'm a. The bed, my body temperature, I'm like, I might. My body temperature is hell. So it'll cool it down. So it might start at 72 and it'll say, you know, we. We made 34 adjustments. Last night to your bed, huh? Be at my feet, be at my back. Be it if I'm on my side. Be it if I'm laying on my stomach, it doesn't matter. It'll automatically adjust.
Joe Johnson
Oh, I got a damn boo.
Shannon Sharpe
I give you a clue. I give you a clue.
Chad Johnson
All that's so unnecessary. I do just fine. Hey, let me tell you something. Stay with me real quick. Stay with me. Joe. Joe. I got a twin bed, Joe. It cost me 2200, Joe. I got a mattress, memory foam, Parcipedic. It cost me 800, Joe. That's fine. You talk about your bed heating up and getting cold and doing this and doing that. I don't need all that, Joe. I put my AC on 65 degrees and I leave it.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm good, I'm good. I ain't gotta do all that. The bed adjust for me. It cooled down for me. I ain't got to do all that.
Joe Johnson
Hey, you boys sleeping like polar bears?
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, Joe, you already get hot. Oh, Joe, you get hot, you gotta kick your leg under the COVID or throw the COVID off that. It'll float. I ain't got to do none of that. I ain't got to do none of that.
Chad Johnson
That's normal though. That's.
Shannon Sharpe
That's nor that. Hey, me, I pull the covers up.
Chad Johnson
On me now, see? Hey, you, you live, you live in a different time. You trying to live like the Jetsons. I don't want to. I want to live like the Flintstones.
Shannon Sharpe
I already lived like the Flintstones for 20 years. I ain't trying to live like that again.
Joe Johnson
Right, right.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm good. I don't have pallets on the seat on the floor. I don't slept on those cast iron bed. I'm good. I' ma sleep good now.
Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah. Hey, hey, O. Joe.
Shannon Sharpe
Sleep is important, brother.
Joe Johnson
That's, that's, that's. Hey, look, that's how you got to recover, man.
Chad Johnson
Hold on, I. I'm good, Joe. I don't go nowhere. I know about sleep. If it wasn't for the show, remember I'm sleep by by 9:30 at night. I'm up at 5:00am every morning. I'm in the gym at 7:00am I sure wish.
Shannon Sharpe
I sure wish I could go to bed at 9:30 at night.
Chad Johnson
You can if you stop partying.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, you remember what happened Monday night?
Chad Johnson
What?
Joe Johnson
1:30. I seen.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. What time did we. Come on, ocho. It was 10:45 here, it was 1:45 there.
Chad Johnson
Yeah. We didn't get off till 3 in the morning.
Shannon Sharpe
Exactly. And guess what? Guess what else, Ocho? I had to get right back up and catch a flight, right? And go to la.
Chad Johnson
Okay, see, that's. That's what I call dedication. Because I was up, too.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Chad Johnson
Yeah. I was up to. Hey, Joe, it was three. We got off the show. I. Joe, I swear for God, My clock said 3. 3:23.
Joe Johnson
I already know.
Quinshon Judkins
I went.
Chad Johnson
I wasn't tripping. I was feeling good, too, because I took a nap earlier in the day. Yeah, I took a nap earlier.
Shannon Sharpe
No, I can say I. I had to cut them naps out because you.
Joe Johnson
Can'T sleep at night.
Shannon Sharpe
I can't sleep at night.
Chad Johnson
Hey, see, that's perfect. You see, this is. This is why I'm trying to get you a partner now. This. It's perfect. Right there. Them nights you can't sleep at night. Boom. Hey, honey, he wrote a poem for you. Hey, honey, let me write you a love letter.
Joe Johnson
Hold on.
Chad Johnson
Recite some. Recite some Shakespeare to you to your girl or something.
Shannon Sharpe
Hold on.
Joe Johnson
Hold on. I thought I'd say. He got somebody, say, gonna be married in two years.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
You heard that joke? Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Hey, just. Cause y' all don't see me. I'm listening and watching now.
Chad Johnson
Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
Hey, Joe, you married? Huh?
Shannon Sharpe
Close enough.
Joe Johnson
I ain't married.
Shannon Sharpe
Close enough.
Chad Johnson
Okay, listen, hold on. Stay with me.
Shannon Sharpe
He just ain't got no paperwork.
Chad Johnson
Listen, listen. This what we can do. We could all make this official and have a trifecta wedding.
Joe Johnson
Hold on.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, we can have a trifecta wed.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm official. I just ain't got no whistle. I'm good.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, we back. We back.
Shannon Sharpe
Probably watching.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. Okay.
Joe Johnson
All right. I'm picking up what you put now. I got you.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. You see what I'm saying, Joe? Be knowing. Yes.
Joe Johnson
You feel me now?
Shannon Sharpe
Hey. Oh, Joe. It's time to come on. It's time to come on.
Chad Johnson
Yeah. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Come on.
Chad Johnson
It's about that time.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Yeah.
Chad Johnson
We not getting no younger.
Shannon Sharpe
Nah.
Chad Johnson
Hey, Joe, I tried to explain to Unc. I say the older we get, the older we get, the chances of getting what we want, it becomes slim. Because what's available out there right now, don't nobody else won't. Because that's why it's available. You hear me?
Shannon Sharpe
You get a certain age, you know, hey, you get what you can, not what you want to. You know what I'm saying?
Chad Johnson
Hey, the pickings are slim now.
Joe Johnson
Hey, it's a tough time to be dating now, boy.
Chad Johnson
Hey, yeah. Hey, boy, I'm. I waved my white flag long time ago.
Shannon Sharpe
I remember. But, hey, we always. Hey, we got back to school clothes. It was like a week before school. Everything done been picked over. Hey, it wasn't no early. We. Hey, we get. The last two weeks, everything done been picked over. Everybody else that tried the jeans on or tried the shirt on that had their feet in the shoe, that's where they came up. Cause I remember when I was coming up, Joe, people be trying the shoes on just their bare foot.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
You ain't had no socks. You know, they just started you laughing, Ocho. I ain't lying. They. They, they. You people had their breath like, damn. Hey, let me. Let me get them. What he just had. But that was. That was back in the day, so. But I'm okay. It's time to come on in, Ocho. It's time to come on home, man.
Chad Johnson
It just. It is what it is. And listen, I'm at fault, too. I'm at fault, too.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. For sure.
Chad Johnson
As I've gotten older, I've tried. I struck out, huh? I've tr. I've tried. I've tried. I've struck out. But, you know, I'm back. I'm back at the plate. That's. That's. That's the one thing I love about baseball, is at some point, as much as you strike out, you will get your opportunity to be at the plate again. And right now, well, Uncle, I'm about to hit a home run.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah. You know. You know, my problem was.
Chad Johnson
Call me.
Shannon Sharpe
Joy Otani.
Chad Johnson
No, no. What's up, Aaron? Judge no play for the Blue Jays.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, Vlad Guerrero, Jr.
Chad Johnson
I'm Guerrero Jr. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
That is. Hey, the thing was, you knew, my problem was. Ocho, talk to me. Looking for perfection.
Chad Johnson
Oh, take your time.
Joe Johnson
It ain't that one.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, she the perfect height. She was the perfect complexion.
Chad Johnson
Come on, now.
Shannon Sharpe
She had the perfect build. She had the perfect.
Chad Johnson
Huh?
Shannon Sharpe
Bro, you not gonna find all that in one. You just listen. I've come to the realization I've got to. I've got to find a woman that have enough of the qualities that I'm looking for that I'm willing to overlook the ones that she don't have. It took me 57 years to realize that there is no such thing as perfection, although we constantly try to achieve it.
Chad Johnson
Talk to him.
Shannon Sharpe
So now I'm like, okay, that's enough.
Joe Johnson
Right?
Shannon Sharpe
You're enough.
Chad Johnson
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
Tall enough. You fine enough. The complexion is enough. Everything is enough.
Chad Johnson
Come on now.
Shannon Sharpe
And it took me a while to realize that because I'm like, I'm trying to be perfect. Hell, I want the perfect person.
Chad Johnson
Yeah. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
That's why I ate the way I ate. That's why I trained, because I was trying to be perfect. Shannon and my sister just say, shannon, you realize you're not gonna be perfect, right? You realize you, you flawed. You are flawed. I don't know why.
Joe Johnson
We all are.
Chad Johnson
We.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I mean, I'm like, listen, I.
Chad Johnson
I, I, I, I would love, I would love to be a therapist. I would love to be a counselor for, for my sisters because they, they have expectations. And I love, I love people having expectations and, and, and having wants and needs and want requirements for people that they date to meet those qualifications. You hear me? What y' all laughing at?
Joe Johnson
I'm listening, bro.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, but here's the thing though, Ocho.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, but, but, but stay with me real quick.
Shannon Sharpe
I want to hear this one.
Chad Johnson
What are the chances if you ask a woman, Joe, if you ask a woman, what is she looking for in a man? You feel me? And she'll run down the list of all the qualities and all the requirements that's, that's that she wants. And it's almost, it's a build a bear. It's not, it's not real. The expectations aren't realistic. So everyone is looking for this. This not, not imaginary. But you, you'll meet a guy that, that'll meet half of what you want and ah, you know. Nah, he ain't no good. No, he where he, he where he work at Sears. Oh, he work at Macy's. I can't do nothing with that, Ocho.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, the easiest thing you'll do is to get with a person. Getting with is the easy part. Staying is what's hard, man. Basketball came easy to Joe. Football came you easy to you and I. But guess what we had to do. We had to practice, we had to study, we had to lift weights, we had to train. All that goes towards work working. You see, everybody gets to the relationship and then that's it. You've got to work every single day. Because the person that you met yesterday is not the person today. The person that you go back to bed with tonight gonna wake up and so now instead of finding a reason to break up, can I find a reason to stay? In the words of earth, wind and fire, can I find a reason? Just one. Can I find one reason to stay? The reason that we love games been played all of our reason was a.
Chad Johnson
Come on now, take your time.
Shannon Sharpe
Right, so now, it took me a while because I, I. Ocho, man, you age. Damn. Damn. Nah, Shannon, because at the end of the day, the way she looked today, she ain't gonna look like that 10 years from now. Hey, hey. From 20 years from now. And that. And that. That booty that's up on the shoulders.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
It's gonna be down by knees. And you're gonna need to pick it up and walk with her. Walk behind or the cat, because you know what? If she walking in a silhouette that you can see right now, when she get about 55, 60.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
It's gonna be dragging in the sand on the beach. You're gonna know what you. Hey, what? My girl. Okay, I see a trail. You know what I'm saying? And you. You gotta accept that, Ocho. Yeah, because I really. You know what? I. I walked by the mirror the other day, and I was like, damn, I ain't the same guy no more, Ocho.
Chad Johnson
Well, you hold on.
Shannon Sharpe
You lost it, Ocho. I'm telling you, I used to. I used to compete. I used to compete in a boot from 25ft away. That's how your arm was, Ocho. Hey, I ain't that no more. What happened.
Joe Johnson
Hey, you say you ain't got it like you used to.
Shannon Sharpe
I ain't got it like I used to. I said, well, damn. I'm like, you know, I. I'm not terrible, right? But I'm looking at how I once was, right? And so if I were. If women were to judge me by what I used to be as opposed to what I currently am, right? I ain't gonna get nobody. I know. I used to. Hey, I walked around at 2. I walked around at 235 with 5% body fat, okay? 3%, 4% body fat for years, right? So I was like, you know what? I need to give people grace. Like, I'm asking people to give me grace.
Chad Johnson
Hold on. What you saying? You fat now?
Joe Johnson
No, he's not fat.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, no. Everybody, no stretch of the imagination.
Chad Johnson
Okay, okay.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, Unc. Saying his bounce back ain't like it used to be.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joe Johnson
His bounce back ain't.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah. I just said the baby arm ain't what it used to be. That's all I'm saying. Oh, Joe. That's all.
Chad Johnson
That's it.
Shannon Sharpe
We ain't going no further. 26, 26. I'm gonna be back. Check. Stay with me till 26. My bad. My baddos. Yeah, but you just. You have to come to the realization, man. And I've come to the realization that, hey, it is what it is. Hey, I ain't. I ain't 27, ain't 37. Hey, just gotta keep kicking. Hey, I just put one foot. One foot. One foot in front of the other, and just. Just keep. Just keep going forward.
Chad Johnson
But we back. We all. We all the way. I love it.
Shannon Sharpe
We all the way back. But you better believe, 26. It's gonna be all the cracking.
Joe Johnson
That's what I'm talking about. I'm gonna be part of some of that cool stuff y' all got going.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. You know the reason why y' all fell in love with Uncle Cho. Nightcap. 26.
Joe Johnson
26.
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Quinshon Judkins
Two more months.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Y'. All. Y' all know, y'. All. I got these jokes.
Chad Johnson
I.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, I ain't in the joke telling business like. Like quick. But I got some. But, man, this. Man, you know, when you. You know, I'm saying, you know, you driving, you just spend a lot of time. You know, I've had a lot of time to think, because, you know, my grandma used to say, boy, she said, you either walking into the storm, you in the storm, or you walking out of it. Yes, sir. You say, somebody. Everybody going through something, son. Yeah. Come on.
Chad Johnson
Come on, boy.
Shannon Sharpe
And when you in that storm, when you in the eye of the storm. The eye of the storm dropped down in New Orleans. Katrina. That was the eye.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Boy, you don't think. You don't know if it's ever, ever, like, when is this gonna be over? How much longer?
Joe Johnson
Damn.
Shannon Sharpe
Hello? Where do I go? When does it end? What did.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, but I.
Chad Johnson
The storm could be.
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho. I read a quote many, many years ago. It said, a lesson that's not learned in blood is destined to be repeated. I had a conversation with my brother probably about two months ago, and he called me, and I said, well, you know, he. Obviously he knew what's going on, because I called him and told him or her time. And then something else came out. And then something else came out. Then something else came out. Then ESPN came out. He said, shannon, there's a lesson in here somewhere for you to be going through what you're going through. There is a lesson. It's on you to figure it out. Yeah. I said, man, I sure wish I. He said, you know what? He said, no, that's not the. That's not the plan. He said, if you knew what it was, you would circumvent the lesson.
Chad Johnson
Right?
Shannon Sharpe
He said, no, but you'll figure it out.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
He said, you'll figure it out. Yeah.
Quinshon Judkins
And.
Shannon Sharpe
People, when y' all see me, I don't. I don't want y' all to have the wrong impression, but I'm just very guarded now. I'm very, very guarded. I was always on alert, but I'm on high alert because I really don't know who I can really trust because what I've seen over the. Over the. Over the last six months, there are very few people that you can actually trust. Yeah.
Chad Johnson
Come on, now.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Very, very, very few, man. And there are. There are people that said some things, and it's gotten back to me, but I was like, wow.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
And you had this conversation, Ocho, about being down, and then people feel like they could. They can pile on. Yeah. But I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm just very. Hey, I'm very. Matter of fact. I'm very. Hey, how you doing? It's nice to meet you. I'm going about. I'm. I'm on my way. Yeah. I'm on my way. Because I don't. I don't want people. Yeah. I had a conversation and chef. Because if you stay too long, Ocho, the more people. And this is what I had to learn, and somebody told me this. They say, shannon, the more people you become involved with, the more stories there is to be told.
Joe Johnson
Circle got to be crazy small.
Shannon Sharpe
The more people you're involved with, Shannon, the more stories there are to be told. Okay.
Chad Johnson
I like that.
Shannon Sharpe
I didn't know what was going to happen. I appreciate you, Ocho, because you're like, hey, when you text me, unc, I'm with you.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Whatever we got to go through, we going through it. You ain't by yourself.
Chad Johnson
To the wheels fall the off. You gave me the opportunity.
Shannon Sharpe
There are so many people o. Joe and Joe, where I'm going, that used to call. That used to text.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
I ain't heard from them since this happened.
Joe Johnson
But that's all right, though. That's all right, though, man.
Chad Johnson
Please.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Keep it moving, baby.
Shannon Sharpe
Maybe this is what. I don't wish this on anybody. But what it did do is it really showed me who's really, really there.
Joe Johnson
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
There are a lot of people on the peripheral. Peripheral. When things were going well with. We were at the apex and getting invited to everything.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm talking about ain't called. Ain't called. And I'm talking about. We were talking once a month, twice a month.
Chad Johnson
Right. Are we gonna come back?
Shannon Sharpe
But I See?
Chad Johnson
Yeah. And, you know, I think about two. Uncle Joe had to think about, you know, Unc, what you had to go through. You know, I've been in the eye of that storm, too, now. Big time. In front of the world.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Yeah.
Chad Johnson
So I. I had to take my licks. I had to. I had to.
Shannon Sharpe
You got it. You got her.
Chad Johnson
And I had. Hey, Joe boy, them calls stop. Ain't hurt nobody. My circle was always small, so my same. My same circle was right there, you know, to lift me up. But I already knew I. I was going to sit for a minute. Yeah. For a long time. Joy had a. It was quiet up for maybe six years.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
Well, you know how long Six. Six years is.
Shannon Sharpe
Hell. Yeah.
Chad Johnson
Nothing coming. No. No, nothing. You just.
Quinshon Judkins
I'm.
Chad Johnson
I'm. And then here we go. You give me an opportunity. You know why? Everything is.
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Is.
Chad Johnson
Is back going motion. Is going. Is going good.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
And then you think I had a nerve to jump ship just because you going through what I had to go through years ago. I know it. I know what it's like.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. I'm looking at the chat. Everybody say, stephen A. No, I will say this. Stephen A. Has called me and been there every step of the way. I will say that. I will say, Stephen A. Have reached out. He's called, asked me anything. Juvie. He like, man, juvie. Just wanted to say, hey. That's. That's his boy. He just wanted to say, hey. You good? Hey, you good? I'm good. I'm good. Look, I know a lot of people say a lot of things about Stephen A. All I can attest to is the way Stephen A. Is with Shannon. And he's been great. Because when I went through what I was going through with Fox, he was there. When I was going through what, this. He was calling. Anything I can do? What can I do? I won't get into private conversations that we have, because that's between he and I. Right. But there are a lot of other people. A lot. Well, I shouldn't say a lot. A lot of the parcel of land, there were a few. Quite a few. But you know what? I was. I've been down before this public lashing and ridicule and scorn and humiliation.
Chad Johnson
Been there.
Shannon Sharpe
Thank you, Lumps. But it took me. It took me a while to realize, like, hold on. You call the people that you're closest to. Brother, mom, sister, kids, best friend, bucket burns. You explain to them what they say. Bro, we good. Once I got. Once I got to that, Ocho, you and I talked about this. The man. Look, it is what it is. I'm gonna be all right.
Chad Johnson
Hey, I ain't even want to hear it. We good.
Shannon Sharpe
Sunshine follows rain.
Joe Johnson
What.
Chad Johnson
What. What time. What time the next show, Right? Hey, Joe, that's all I want to know. What time is the next show?
Shannon Sharpe
That's exactly what he said he did.
Chad Johnson
I know what that's like.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. Okay. Yeah, we will get back to that, but our very, very special guest is joining us. Cleveland Browns rookie sensation running back Quinshon Judkins joins us. Q, what's going on, bro?
Quinshon Judkins
What's up? What's up? What's up? How you doing?
Shannon Sharpe
Nah, he good. He good now.
Chad Johnson
What's up?
Shannon Sharpe
You were housed in that thing this week. Well, you've been housing it since you got back, but you was really house in that thing. You. Hey, house call.
Quinshon Judkins
Seriously.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm out.
Quinshon Judkins
I had to. Yeah.
Chad Johnson
How you. How you feeling?
Shannon Sharpe
How.
Chad Johnson
How's your. Your experience so far in the NFL been? Is. Is. Has it been everything you expected it to be as. As opposed to, you know, the transition from college to.
Quinshon Judkins
Oh, yeah, most definitely. I feel like it's been more so surreal, not only for myself, but for my family to get to experience everything, you know, get to meet a lot of the players. And that whole nine yards, man, just getting the final touchdown, you know, been through, going through so much. A slow start to the beginning of the season. And shoot, just everything taking off when I landed.
Joe Johnson
That's what's up.
Shannon Sharpe
You're from Ohio.
Quinshon Judkins
I'm from Alabama. I'm from Montgomery.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, you.
Chad Johnson
Oh, man.
Shannon Sharpe
How did. Let you get out of. How you get out of. How did you get way to Ohio State from Bama Nil? That's the way to keep it.
Quinshon Judkins
Seriously. Oh, man. I think for myself, just in college, man, I ended up going to Ole Miss for two years. I played there in the sec.
Shannon Sharpe
Had.
Quinshon Judkins
A lot of success. And then my last year of college for my junior year, I was like, man, I want to go somewhere I can compete for a national championship. So I end up at Ohio State. I felt like that was a great situation. Coach Day one's a great type program. A lot of talented players there. So I was like, you know, it's no better place to go than Ohio State. So I end up there.
Joe Johnson
Hey, Q, tell me something. You SEC freshman of the Year, right?
Quinshon Judkins
I. I was like, nominee for it or something like that, but, yeah, I think I was a freshman of year. I can't even remember.
Joe Johnson
So you left the SEC to go To Ohio.
Shannon Sharpe
That bag.
Joe Johnson
Different, ain't it, man?
Quinshon Judkins
For me, it wasn't about that though. For many different people, like in the game it's about money, the car different. For me, it was like in the day, bro, I'm a competitor. I'm trying to go out and you know, kill it. Like, I'm trying to go out and, you know, win games as much as possible. Because at Ole Miss I was putting up 1500 yards. I'm getting 15 touchdowns a year. So I'm like, man, no, I'm doing all, all that. But that's not what fulfills me. That's. That don't make me happy. So that wasn't what I was chasing.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, you order that title.
Chad Johnson
Thank you. Hey, Q. Q. Hey, hey, don't give me that politically.
Joe Johnson
For real though?
Quinshon Judkins
Not for real.
Chad Johnson
Come on. Hey, this your boy? Come on. Don't. Don't do me like that.
Quinshon Judkins
For real.
Chad Johnson
Hey, okay, okay, okay. Let me let you have it. Hey, one thing I want to talk about. I want to talk about the Cleveland Browns and I want, I want to. From the outside looking, I don't think you quite understand. Obviously you, you in position, but me on the outside looking in because there, there's been, there's been controversy at the quarterback position. Do you understand that you are the bail cow, that you are the offense that often goes as you go. Most of the times it's a star player, star quarterback or a star receiver, but you are the nucleus of that offense and as you go, the rest of the team goes. Do you quite understand that just yet?
Quinshon Judkins
I think just because it's so early on in my career, I quite don't get it yet. But at the same time I understand like the situation like and Coach Stefanski is offense and if you go back to Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt and different guys playing in this offense, it's always been able to lean on the run game. And I think that's what's very beneficial about planning this offense. So I think just in my mindset, man, like my mentality, regardless of who we playing that week, what plays we installing, just had a staying determination, bro, to just go out there and like, just leave it all out on the field. But knowing the particular like situation, like, yeah, for sure. Knowing that this is a run first offense, I'm already know I'm here.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, you in the west coast system. In the west coast system, that's all. You put your foot in the dirt, you get downhill and then everything comes after that. Because now we're going to boot. We're going to play action. Yeah, because look, I play, I played in this offense. Now a lot of it's maybe changed, the wording of garbage has changed. But you go back and look at the Broncos offense with TD and Clinton Portis and Mike Anderson and Reuben Drones, and you look at the way the team run this offense. When you got a running back, when you got a guy, Christian McCaffrey in San Francisco, Kyron Williams with the Rams, you look at Josh Jacobs with the, the packers. When you look when that. When the run game is efficient, this offense is almost impossible.
Quinshon Judkins
Almost, almost literally. Because I feel like that's when we're our best, when we're clicking in the rank game. Like, I feel like as a team, man, we unstoppable and that's where we continue to get better at and consistently try to go out there on Sundays and put it all together. Because I feel like, like you said, man, that run game is what really helps us.
Shannon Sharpe
What was your expectations when you, what. What was your goals when you came in? You was dealing what you did. You was dealing with what you was dealing with that offseason. I think you got uninvited to the, to the draft, but you was going through what you was going through. You was like, okay, this is going to be behind me and I'm going to have to put what I. What this is. I got to put that behind and I got to go somewhere and I got to perform at an elite level. I got to play like I know I can play. What was your expectations for your, your rookie season?
Quinshon Judkins
I think for myself, it was more so a testament to, you know, what I'm doing when nobody was looking. Because when I wasn't in the building, you know, like, I didn't have a strength, a strength staff. I didn't have a coach to talk to, to go over plays. I didn't have every resource that I had while I'm here in Cleveland now. So it was like the amount of dedication that it took for me to give everything I had and try to perfect my crowd when I wasn't around and then come back and like, it was like it was nothing. And try to get on that same plate page with no training camp, no. No football for what, three months. So not having those things and just training, making sure I'm mentally sharp so when, when I get that call and I go back, I'm ready. I think that was my things that I really harped the most. Also, other than, like, physical activity was. Was really Just making sure, you know, like, I'm mentally sharp. Just because you go through so much, man, and a lot of people don't understand, they'll never. They'll never know what it's like, you know, especially being an athlete and the thing that we deal with. But, yeah, bro, just really. Just making sure I'm mentally there all the way sharp. 100%.
Shannon Sharpe
I love that, what you said, what you was doing when no one was watching, because discipline is doing what you should do versus what you want to do. I'm sure you wanted to. Hey, the boys kicking it. They doing. They pay. Hey, let me go over here. Let me party. Let me kick it. But the discipline stay true because I got bigger issues. You're the first Browns player with three rushing touchdowns in the game since Nick Chubb did it September 18, 2022. You had 84 yards rushing, three touchdowns, and your rookie of the week nominee. When you see things like you've done doing things that hadn't been done by a Browns player in three years, you're doing, you know, being nominated for rookie of the year. Look, we all want validation. We put that kind of time in, we put that kind of work into the off season. And to see you plant a tree, you want it to bear fruit. Yeah, you're bearing fruit. How pleasing. How gratifying. How satisfying is it for, like, okay, everything that I did in the off season, everything that I went through, this is more gratifying. It makes it even more like, I know I was doing the right thing.
Quinshon Judkins
For me, it more so, like, I'm one of those people where it's like, man, I'm just. I'm just trying to chop wood. I'm just trying to chop wood. You know, what I'm doing is that's cool. But at the same time, like, you know, I got bigger goals. I know how I view myself as a competitor, how good I want to be. So I don't really think about it. But at the same time, when I look up and knowing what I've been through, knowing, like, how I persevered, knowing what, like, different challenges I face, and then you see the light at the end of the tunnel, it motivates me personally to, like, you know, keep going and strive to be better. So I think just that motivation you get from it and the hunger.
Joe Johnson
Hey, Q, man, as a rookie in the NFL, bro, living the American dream. Tell me what it's like, because when I look back when I was a rookie playing in the NBA, I couldn't sleep, man. I couldn't sleep. I was so geeked for the moment because I'm coming. Cause when I came in the NBA in 01 is when Jordan came back. You know, T, Mac Cole, Vince Carter, all them dudes was, you know, they was at the apex. So I couldn't sleep nights before games because I was so geeked up for the moment. Man, I'm not playing. So what is it like as a rookie, living the American dream? You probably been, you know, wishing for this moment since you was a kid. And now that you're actually in it, what is it like?
Quinshon Judkins
Oh, man, I think for me, man, like, just finally being here, this is something you think about your whole life. You work your whole life for this. Like, you worked since you was this big, like, to get to this, to this moment. So it's like you finally hear it. But what I realized was it's like, okay, it's not how fast you can get here, it's how long you can stay. So. So. So my thing is, you know, doing everything in my power to, you know, be able to go out there and do this, have the same amount of success, not only for this year, but before a long time, and keep that same discipline. So that's one thing I did learn, I would say, is that, you know, just having so many good vets, too. You got a lot of good vets in the locker room, and you meet a lot of good players around the league to develop a lot of relationships. I think in college is more so very. Compared to NFL, I would say it's kind of individualized just because guys aren't in locker rooms as long as they are at different organizations in the league. So I think in the league, man, you always have people that you can lean on, get advice from, because, like, coming into this, you know, a lot of stuff moves super fast. So having somebody that you can ask different questions to so you're not just hit by the blind for real.
Shannon Sharpe
Right, Right.
Chad Johnson
Hey, how's the body holding up?
Quinshon Judkins
Yeah, I feel. I feel good. You know, I used to get. I got a lot of carriers when I was at Ole Miss. I used to get a lot of carries. And then last year at Ohio State, I think I had like, maybe 300, 255. So I was used to being the bail cow guy, you know?
Joe Johnson
Right.
Quinshon Judkins
So I feel good, though.
Chad Johnson
Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
How does the quarterback look? He started out, you know, Gabriel gets drafted and Shador comes in. And we know what Shador. We know what that last name brings. You got Joe Flacco, you got Pickett and they, okay, we're gonna move on. We go in this direction. And now has that the quarterback. The situation with Gabriel and Shador, is he going to get reps? Is he going to start? Is he going to play? Has that impacted the locker room in any way?
Quinshon Judkins
No, I think with our team, we all so close, and we got a lot. We got so many young guys, man. It's like in our locker room, we genuinely. It's almost like you're in college again. It feels like for real, for real. Like, damn. Like locker room full of young guys. But, man, it's just like the energy there. Regardless of who playing, those two guys, they always support each other, man. Was a clip I seen, I like that on the Internet the other day, and it was like them walking down the sideline and just talking, laughing about, I think we had just scored a touchdown or something. But that's who they genuinely are. That's who they truly are. They are competitive, but at the same time, they want what's best for each other. And I don't think it's ever been turmoil or any. Any word said by anybody on our team, like, about who's our quarterback. We all 100% support Dylan. I even played them when I was at Ohio State twice. I played him at Oregon once, and then I played him again and passed it into California at the Rose Bowl. So I got to see him and how he is as a quarterback. He's super talented, bro. He's, like, super smart. He processes really fast, and he's a great player. So I'm excited to see how he develop in his career.
Shannon Sharpe
That's amazing, man. Q, thanks for stopping by. Thanks for giving some time. Congratulations on your early success. Continue success, stay healthy. And, you know, when it's all said and done, at the end of the year, you go over a thousand yards, come back and tell us how you say, Appreciate y'.
Chad Johnson
All.
Joe Johnson
Appreciate you, man.
Chad Johnson
All right.
Quinshon Judkins
Later.
Chad Johnson
Yo, hey, tell Denzel Ward he can't stop.
Quinshon Judkins
Look, hey, look, I'll be telling that practice, he be. He be getting mad. I'd be like, bro, I've been that.
Joe Johnson
Corner on your ass, boy.
Chad Johnson
I'm 220. I still do it.
Quinshon Judkins
Yeah, I'm like that.
Joe Johnson
I'm gonna hit him, though.
Quinshon Judkins
I'm gonna let him know.
Shannon Sharpe
I appreciate that, man.
Date: October 23, 2025
Host: Shannon Sharpe (joined by Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, Joe "Iso Joe" Johnson)
Special Guest: Browns RB Quinshon Judkins
This episode of “Nightcap” centers on resilience, authenticity, and camaraderie within sports and life. The trio examines Russell Wilson's public response to Sean Payton’s comments, delves into personal topics—from bed sizes to friendships—and spotlights how athletes handle criticism and adversity. The show closes with an insightful, motivational guest appearance from emerging NFL star Quinshon Judkins.
Shannon Sharpe ([08:01]) expresses surprise that Wilson responded at all, but supports him, emphasizing every person has limits.
"You'll only be able to take so much... What you see is just like they keep going and keep going...Eventually you weak?"
Chad Johnson ([09:15]; [10:01]) supports Wilson's stand, expressing satisfaction Wilson finally addressed the criticism:
"I love Russell 'Choir Boy' Wilson, but I love the fact that he stood up for himself... Russ said, 'I done ran out of cheeks. I'm finna clap back.'"
Joe Johnson ([12:00]) is fully supportive, noting, "Enough is enough. Man, he ain't saying nothing. He's been going about his way, you know...I'm glad he responded."
[15:34] - [19:45]
Sharpe likens Payton’s stance toward Wilson to other unresolved coach-player grudges:
"It's the same thing with Melo and George Karl...every chance he gets he tries to poke Mellow." ([18:17])
Chad and Shannon agree it’d be better if coaches just said they didn’t like someone, rather than hiding behind petty comments.
Chad: “Why don't you just come out and say, you know what? I don't even like this individual. And it's personal...” ([19:06])
The discussion underscores public versus private personas in professional sports, and the limitations of professional decorum.
[33:34] - [42:28]
The hosts reflect on dating and lifelong expectations, humorously lamenting slim pickings as they age.
"The older we get, the chances of getting what we want, it becomes slim. Because what's available out there...don't nobody else want. That's why it's available." — Chad Johnson ([34:16])
Sharpe gets candid about learning to let go of perfectionism:
"I've come to the realization, I've got to find a woman that have enough of the qualities...that I'm willing to overlook the ones she don't have." ([36:55])
They discuss giving grace both to others and themselves, as personal change and aging set in.
[42:54] - [50:42]
Shannon Sharpe alludes to “storms” he's recently endured, the lessons of adversity, and the importance of guarding trust.
"There are very few people you can actually trust." ([45:25])
He calls out friends who disappeared during tough times, juxtaposed with those who stood by him—publicly appreciating Stephen A. Smith's steadfast support ([48:51]).
"Stephen A. has called me and been there every step of the way...All I can attest to is the way Stephen A. is with Shannon." ([48:51])
Chad Johnson relates with his own public hardships: “I had to take my licks...it was quiet for maybe six years.” ([48:25])
Overarching message: hardship reveals true relationships; sunny days follow the rain.
[25:53] - [32:49]
Ocho reveals he sleeps on a twin bed, prompting Joe and Shannon to clown him for his frugality.
“You ain’t had no twins since you was in college!” — Joe Johnson ([26:21]) “Hey, king bed costs so goddamn much...I’m cool, give me the twin.” — Chad Johnson ([27:10])
Sharpe describes his “space age” bed, listing high-tech features and poking fun at Ocho’s Flintstone lifestyle versus his own Jetsons-level upgrades.
Judkins describes his surreal transition from Montgomery, Alabama, to SEC star and now rookie sensation in the NFL:
"It's been more so surreal...just getting the final touchdown, you know, going through so much...just everything taking off when I landed." ([51:42])
He was initially at Ole Miss before transferring to Ohio State for a shot at a national title, downplaying motivations about NIL deals:
"For me, it wasn’t about [money]...I'm a competitor. I'm trying to go out and win games." ([53:13])
He credits his discipline and self-motivation in overcoming the lack of resources during his challenging offseason:
"It was a testament to what I'm doing when nobody was looking...the amount of dedication that it took for me to give everything I had..." ([56:58])
Sharpe celebrates Judkins' historic production as a Cleveland rookie, comparing him to franchise greats.
Judkins remains humble and focused:
"I'm just trying to chop wood...I got bigger goals. I know how I view myself as a competitor, how good I want to be." ([59:16])
Judkins shares wisdom on longevity:
"It's not how fast you can get here, it's how long you can stay." ([60:40])
He discusses team camaraderie, backing up new QBs, and handling rapid transitions, emphasizing supportive relationships among young teammates.
Chad Johnson, on self-worth and aging:
“Hey, you get a certain age, you know, hey, you get what you can, not what you want.” ([34:16])
Shannon Sharpe, on perfection and acceptance:
“It took me 57 years to realize...there is no such thing as perfection, although we constantly try to achieve it.” ([36:50])
Joe Johnson, on adversity revealing true character:
“Circle got to be crazy small.” ([46:12])
Shannon Sharpe, on trust after betrayal:
“I’m very, very guarded now...there are very few people you can actually trust.” ([45:25])
Quinshon Judkins, on NFL life:
“It's not how fast you can get here, it's how long you can stay.” ([60:40])
Bed-size clowning:
Ochocinco’s twin bed is relentlessly mocked, leading to elaborate tales of “space age” sleep tech and the high price of king-size mattresses.
“Hey, king bed costs so goddamn much...I’m cool, give me the twin.” ([27:10])
Chad Johnson’s “Paul Bunyan” bravado:
Claims he could take on James Harrison on sight, earning incredulity and laughter from his co-hosts. ([22:13])
The tone throughout is warm, teasing, heartfelt, and unfiltered—mixing barbershop humor with sage advice and open vulnerability. Personal histories are woven with sports commentary, presenting a genuine window into the hosts’ lives and passions.
This is an episode highly rooted in authenticity, brotherhood, and facing life's storms—with plenty of trademark Club Shay Shay humor. The Russell Wilson/Sean Payton segment is a masterclass in both sports analysis and life advice about standing up for oneself. Judkins' interview offers a look into the mindset needed to make it in the NFL, as well as a reminder to stay humble and disciplined in the face of success.