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Ryan Garcia beats Mario Barrios. Excuse me, Mario Barrios. To win the WBC welterweight title. Garcia put on a clinic. He landed more power shot punches through eight rounds against Barrios than he did in the entire fight against Rolly Romero, according to Compubox Ojo. You know, it seemed like Barrios was trying to protect himself against the left because we know that is Ryan's power shot. But all he did, it seemed like his, his thing was throw the left out there and then hit him with the overhand right.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Right.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And he landed that shot anytime he wanted to. Every time he threw it, it damn near got home. And from the time he made him touch it within the, what, the first 30 seconds, first minute of the fight, oh, he felt this power. He's like, well, damn. Yeah, I ain't expect this. And he didn't. I mean, I'm surprised that his corner didn't have an answer or a counter because I understand you want to neutralize the left, but if he doesn't do that, you got to have a counter. To his counter. Oo. What did you think about this fight?
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
I mean, Ryan dominated the fight all, all the rounds, obviously all 12 rounds. I was, I was hoping Barrios with it, with that much experience as he has in the ring, I was expecting him to adjust at some point. Obviously when Ryan set the tone and dropping him early when he hit him on top of the temple, obviously that, that made him a little gun shy. He didn't really want to throw because he didn't want to get. Get caught. Outside of that, it made me. Ryan did the same thing basically all 12 rounds, huh? Jab, jab, check, hook, every so often, right hand, 1, 2. And it was really the same thing. I think for anyone, any. For Barrios to have a chance tonight, he would have had to take some chances. He would have to make the fight ugly. He would have had to fight on the inside and, and just go to work. And he. He didn't do any of those things. He didn't make any adjustments. I mean, based on what I could see. And Ryan dominated the entire fight.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He did. And that's what makes you so frustrated with Ryan. But when he had the conversation off show, he said, man, look, I wasn't taking the fight serious. I was getting drunk. I was doing things that I shouldn't have been doing. He says, but I'm serious about this fight. And you're going to see a different king. Ryan Garcia. That's what he told us. And he was very calm. He seemed very posed, very composed in his tone. He didn't get too high, he didn't get too low. But what I saw tonight, this is the Ryan Garcia I want to see. This is a guy that was taking his craft serious. And we said in the Devin Haney fight, I said, man, if the man took, if he took fighting serious, if he got himself in shape, he was in shape tonight. He wasn't tired, he wasn't fatigued. He fought all. The thing I think his corner told him was like, bro, stay out. Hey, keep the fight in the middle of the ring. You don't want to get on the ropes. Keep fighting the middle of the ring and then, hey, you can do whatever you want to do to him from that, from that range. But I was very impressed with what I saw, Ocho. But like I said, it seems like Barrios was expecting the left and he was protecting himself against the left. And you're right, the only time Ryan really threw the left was a check hook. Him. He wasn't trying to throw up with no power. It was just Easy to check him. But every. I mean, every time he just stuck that jab out there and clubbed him with the overhand right, I'm like, damn, Barrios. Yeah, put an umbrella up or something. Damn. At some point in time, you gotta block it and not with your head.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Yeah. I mean, and it's so funny when you think about how simplified the 12 is and to be for the same thing, to work for 12 goddamn rounds for experienced fighter like Barrios to allow it to work for 12 rounds and making. Not making the necessary adjustments round by round and being able to adjust to it and find an answer or a counter to that. I mean, that, that, that, that. That tells a lot about Ryan Garcia, his hand speed, but also the power he possesses. Once he got in the fall down early, whatever game plan bios came into this fight with, it was out the window.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, I. I think that was the thing. Oo. I. I don't think he expected Garcia to touch him like that early. Yeah, he definitely didn't expect to touch the mat. Expect to touch the mat that early. And it's easy to say, you know, what do this, do that, but you felt this power within the first minute of the fight. Hey, he set you down. He's such a. Put you on your ass.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Yes, sir.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And so you like. Nah, I don't. I don't think. I don't think I want to go. I don't think I want to go back in there, you know, Hey, I. I want the honey. Yeah, there'll be. Those bees are protecting it. And so he. He fought cautious and like I said, I. And I agree with you. I thought Ryan Garcia. We came on, so I didn't really. Did he win? What was it, 1:1? Was it a shutout? Was it a shutout?
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
I mean, I'm sure it was. I didn't see a round that. I mean, yeah, I didn't see around that Barrios actually could have won.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I don't. I don't either. I don't either. And I thought. I thought Ryan did a great job. We mentioned he landed more power shots through the first eight rounds. He landed more shots than he did on Barrios in eight rounds than he did than he did in the entire fight against rolling. He was. He was mentally, physically, emotionally, whatever thing. You were psychologically unprepared to fight, Rolly.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Mm.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And this fight, this was the Ryan Garcia that many expected. Like, this kid got talent.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
This kid were to take his craft serious if you were to prepare. He can. He can go far and the thing that I like about the Mocho, he don't duck. He fought. He's already fought Haney. He fought Tank, he fought Rolly, he fought Barrios. Oh, yeah, he ain't ducking.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Nah, it's not. I would love to see him and him and him and Shakur fight. I think, I think having a, a boxer with the IQ that Shakur has who will be able to make the proper adjustments round by round, despite, you know, there's one thing that beats speed as fast as Ryan is with his hands, but it's one thing that beats speed, and that's timing. And having someone like Shakur, who is his defensive prowess, you know, it speaks for itself. I think that would be, be a, be a great fight, you know, for, for Ryan and Shakur. I, I'm not sure if it will happen, you know, this soon, but that'd be a dope one.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Scorecards. 119 to 108. 120 to 107, 118 to 109. I'm trying to figure what round they gave you. Somebody gave him two rounds. I'm, I'm, I'm honest about you. I'm just. Hey, Chat, maybe, maybe, maybe my TV froze because it took me a while, it took me a while to get to Amazon Prize. So I can watch this, I can watch the Zone. So maybe I missed something. I, I, I'm sure. I'm serious. Chat. Did y', all, did y' all see around in which Barrios won?
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
No.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, maybe, maybe I had to go take a pee break because, man, that man, that man beat the. Brooks, that man beat the brakes off Baros. I like, I like the middle judge. The middle judge had it because, I mean, the knock down the first round, that's a two point round right there.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So 120 to 107. I like that. I think that I, I think that's how the scorecard should have lined up, right? But Ryan Garcia gave his father Henry, his WBC title after securing the win, saying, I'm dedicating this to my dad. He had Henry on his trunk, I think. Now, Ocho, don't you get a chain. You get a better, you get a chain. But because they was talking about. I saw something on social media about a chain.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Well, I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I mean, the chain, is that something new or.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, I guess, I guess, you know, people that, you know, guys got tired of paying the sanctioning fees for the belt like, you know, it's supposed, some, some of the money go to the sanctioning body, which is wbc. Some of it goes to retired fighters that, you know, that's falling on hard times. I don't know where, but now they got, they got appended. So I, I, I don't, I don't really know, but I just know Ryan Garcia looked really, really good tonight. I was impressed with the way he fought tonight. And like I said, when he came on, was that Wednesday night? Oh, that, that he, that he was on.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
I think it might have been, I think it might have been Wednesday.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It was Wednesday. And, you know, he was excited about coming on and hey, and, but just listening at him talk, yeah, he's had some hard times. He's been, you know, under the influence and he said, hey, he was drinking. I mean, he, he let it be known he had, he's, he also mentioned about some, some mental health issues that he was dealing with. He seems to have got those things rectified and got those behind him. He's taken his training seriously. Said he had a great, a great camp, he's in great shape, and he was ready to fight. And, you know, he's like, hey, he's gonna make it look easy. And it looked easy. Yeah, yeah, it looked easy, Ocho.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
I mean, yeah, I mean, I, listen, I, but again, it was kind of weird to me. I mean, Barrios is a former champion. I was expecting more from him.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, I was too old.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Especially from him with having as much ring experience as he's had, as he, as he's had, you know, throughout his career. I'm not sure why, why he looked the way he did, but obviously I'm not the one on the end of those punches that Ryan is throwing, so I, I, I can, I can understand, but I, I expected more, honestly.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, I, I, and I think the biggest thing is that he took it serious. I mean, how, how, how great do you want to be in a given sport? How great do you want to be in a, in a great given craft? Because if you want to be great, you take it serious. You don't do some of the things, some of the destructive behavior that he had going on and says, I want to be a champion, I want to be great, I want to be remembered in the sport. Well, the, what you were doing is saying that you don't want to be remembered and you want to have a very short career and in your given sport because that was the path that he was headed down. And I'm glad he Was able. I'm glad, with. With the help of family, friends, and loved ones, someone that was around him got in his ear and says, ryan, if you want to be great, what you're doing is not going to help you be great. And he was able to get back on the right track, and hopefully he stays on the right track because you. Like I said, oo, yeah, there are some fights that I. I like to see him against Shakur also. This, this fight was at what, one. What, what? 149? 150. 151. What was this fight at?
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
147.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So it's got to be 147.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
147, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
147, yeah. Because he mentioned that he was a 149 and a half when they weighed in the other day, so. 140. 140. So he was only two and a half pounds, so that was nothing. He had to weigh in on. On Friday. So two pounds, that ain't nothing. But he looked good. He looked good. I was. I'm. I'm bar. I was very, very impressed with Ryan Garcia tonight. He. He showed us up, Mocho, and we know he has this accountability.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I mean, if you go back and look at it now, look, everybody said, what the steroids and this or that. But he did a number on.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
He did, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Now, Tank. Hey, Tank called him.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But take it hard, take it heavy. There's a reason why they call it tape for real. I mean, you know, he might be the smallest Tank we've ever seen. You know, sometimes the. The smallest person, they get the name Tiny.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Yeah, I mean, the biggest. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I mean, you call Tiny list of tiny that man. 6, 3, 250.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
And that, that's. That's another thing is, I mean, from the casual boxer, I'm not sure if you can see the mistakes that, that Ryan. Ryan is making with the lunging and the throwing the 1, 2, and then in lunging and he's off balance. I mean, the, the, the. The boxers, the pure boxers would take advantage of that. They take advantage. I don't even think people can see it. I can see it where he's off balance, but he's. He's trying to throw combinations, but he's not even. He's not even playing it. No. A Tank or a Shakur or some of those.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, they're pull counter, but you core definitely a pull counter.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Yeah, he pulled count. They'll take advantage of some of the mistakes he was making tonight. But he was so Fast. And. And Barrios was so gun shy and scared to throw, he was able to get away with it.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes. And the thing is, you got to be careful with all that lunging and all that, because they'll. They'll time it up perfect.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Exactly.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You know what? Pacquiao had a bad habit of that. He. He do this. And coming in. Yeah. Antonio Barrera. Yep. And the bell rang, the school bell rang, the church bell rang, and he still didn't get up. So you have to. You, when you fighting great fighters. Yeah. You have to be careful. You really have to be on point.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Oh, yeah, you got to.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Shakur is technically sound. He's a technically sound fighter, and you can't make the mistakes that you made against Barrios and. And expect to be Shakur. He'll make you pay for every mistake, every last one. It's like, oh, you know, the teachers, like the subjective teachers. They let no mistake go. Like, damn, she done ran out of red ink on my paper. She had to get a whole new pen. She's circling everything. It should have been a comment. It was a period. It should have been an exclamation point of it, but damn. But congratulations, Ryan Garcia, the WBC welterweight champion as he beats Mario Barrios in convincing fashion. 119, 108, 120 to 107, 118 to 109. And he is the WBC welterweight champ. Been some. Some great guys that's held that belt. You go back to Sugar Ray and Tommy Hearns and, and, and, and, And Bud. Yeah, now he got it.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Yeah, that was dope. I'm excited. I'm excited. I just. I want to know who the next fight is. I mean, do you re. Do you rematch. Do you rematch Rolly ass to fight Rolly again? You know, I'm, I'm. I. I don't know. I'm curious. I'm curious. It's so many good fights that, that, that. That can be made. I mean, what's next?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It wasn't Barrera. It was Juan Marquez. Juan Marquez that. That killed Pacquiao.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Pacquiao.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
When he laid him out. Yeah, Laid him out front, because that was.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It was a trilogy fight, wasn't it? I think it was a trilogy fight in which he got it, but he was winning. Pacquiao was winning. Yeah, I was winning the fight and got. And got reckless and boom, and ding, bell. And he couldn't answer the bell.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
He caught on that. That rhythm. He caught on to his rhythm.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That bouncing, bouncing Sugar Shane was like that if you know, the Sugar Shade would always before he throw. Gary Antoine Russell defeated Andy Hieroka by unanimous decision. Russell retained his WBA junior welterweight title with a score of 117 to 110. 116 to 111. 116 to 111. Me, personally, I thought it was a little closer than that.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Hey, I, I with that, that 10, that 10th round, I thought it was going to be a draw. That tip. Because of that 10th round, I thought it was going to be a draw. Young bull Gary was fighting, you know, he was the aggressor the entire, the entire last round. I'm saying, wait a minute, come on now. I mean, but listen, Gary. I don't think Gary was hurt at any point in the fight. He caught a body shot early in the fight, but he didn't show any signs that it actually hurt him. I mean, listen, it was a good fight. It was a good, a good look. Good, good, good little scrap. I wouldn't want to be a judge in this one, though. I wouldn't. I wouldn't want to be a judge in this one. But Gary did win the fight. I mean, happy, happy for him. It was good, that opponent, but he wasn't easy at all.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, no, no, I didn't, I don't
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
even know how to pronounce his last name. But it wasn't easy at all. Yeah.
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Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But I. The thing was Ocho, I thought Russell got off to a great start.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Very good.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Because I thought the early rounds. I like the first two or three, four rounds I thought like okay, man. It's gonna be easy work for us.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Yeah. Cakewalk, huh? No.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
No sir.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh boy. Said no, it ain't about to be. It ain't about to be. It ain't about to be that. No, he ain't. It ain't about to be that easy for you, bro. They. They asked Russell after the fight somebody you want security? Like nah. You know, let me build up that. Said that man don't build up his reputation. Let me get by like I want you, man. Let me hold on to my build a little while longer. What y' all trying to do? I just got the bill. Yeah. And you trying to make me turn it over to somebody else? No, but Shakur says he has. He has great respect. He said, I guess they sparred at some point in time. Yeah. So he's very familiar with the. With the young man. But I thought the fight was closer than. I thought it was closer than 117 to 110 and 116 and 111. But hey, the judges saw it differently. And that's. That's all that matters. Ocho is how they see it. And they saw it 117 to 110. 116 to 111. 116 to 111. In the post fight interview, Russell avoided calling out WBO champion Shakur Stevenson and took aim at WBC champion Dalton Smith and IBF title Richardson, Hitchens, Ocho. I mean, hey, go ahead.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
No, go ahead, go ahead.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Look, I won't take to get his ish together. I won't. Tank and Shakur to fight.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Oh, we, we got a while before that. You might, you might. Yeah, you might well let that one go. It's going to be a while. I say maybe a year or two before. Before.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sitting around waiting on him. One year or two.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Yeah. But I'm, I'm just about Tank situation. It's not going to be this year. Definitely not going to be this year. So Maybe, maybe in 27. Maybe. But you know, Tank got to get his stuff situated on.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, he got to get his life in order, man. Yeah.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
But once, once he do and he come back, he's still, he's still. Even with the mishaps, you know, outside the ring, he might still be the face of boxing because everybody is still waiting for him to get back and be on point.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But the problem is Ocho, even though he has those issues going on and he can be sparring if he's not incarcerated and hopefully that doesn't happen. We'll have to wait and see. Ocho, you gotta fight. Yeah, you gotta fight. Spar. And Ali was able to spar, but he wasn't fighting right. And he was never the same. Yeah, it's not after that three year hiatus, he wasn't. You take time off, it's hard to come back. Tyson was never the same fighter. Now we understand that was a totally different set of circumstances, Ocho, you know, I mean, you could only do so much in there. I mean he's like doing push ups. I mean, they weren't letting him go to the gym. But in that sport or any sport, in order to be good at it,
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
you gotta stay active.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You gotta stay active. Yeah.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
You gotta stay connected.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Think about it. It took Jordan time. Cause when he came back, he was like, yeah, he had a game here, but he wasn't a Gillette. Damn. But then once he got time back. But just imagine two years as a, as a boxer.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Yeah, that's crazy.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You gotta be in the ring, Ocho.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
I know you got to. It don't matter how much sparring you do, huh? Yeah, it don't matter how much you fighting, actually fighting and having ring rust, you know and you can spar all you want to, but actually fighting and being under them lights is a different ball game. And p, you know, you do have ring rust, so when he does come back, he gonna have to fight someone. That really ain't much of a challenge. You can, you can't put yourself in harm's way. So it has to be someone that you know you could beat. Just get yourself back in rhythm, get yourself back, get a, get a feel for being back in the ring again and get comfortable.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Running wind sprints is not the same thing as training camp. No, I don't give that, I don't give a damn how many you run and how many you run. Hey, we running 14, 16 seconds. We taking 45 second break, right? Let them blow that damn whistle and go too many or no huddle and see how your ass huffing and puffing.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Man, please.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I don't care, okay? I don't care nothing about them wind sprints. I don't, I don't care about no 40 tests. I don't care nothing about no conditioning test. When they put them pads, that helmet on your ass, it's like, okay, no huddle, okay, two minute period.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
It's different.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It damn sure is.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Completely different.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And so I could understand a guy that, the inactivity in the ring, Russ, because all of a sudden, I mean, to be able to see, you still see, but to be able to see those punches once you get in the ring and the guys that you sparring with, that's not Shakur Stevenson. That's not a Keyshawn Davis. That's not the top echelon. Echelon fighters. And like you said, Ocho, when he does come back, he's gonna have to fight somebody. Hey, basically tomato can.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't, don't put yourself in the harms where you ain't got nothing to prove. Get to get yourself back in rhythm, get acclimated. Being in the ring, being under the lights. People, you know, the, the, the, the people that love boxing that they're going to enjoy it. And when the timing is right, that's when you make that big fight. That's when you make that mega fight. You don't come back and just give and will step in it right, right away and put yourself in. I, I like, I, I like calling it harm's way. But you, you don't make that fight.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, get a, get a couple easy ones under you.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I, you know who I want to see next. Honestly, who I want to see, Lamont, Ro and Shakur.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That'll be a good fight.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Now listen, we, we talk about it, talk about a chess match. Now that, that would be a phenomenal chess match that I, I, I would love to see.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, Floyd Mayweather Jr. Said he's unretiring and will resume his undefeated career after his planned exhibition against Mike Tyson. Floyd from my upcoming this is Matt
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I tie some event to my next professional fight. Afterwards, no one will generate a bigger gate, have a larger global broadcast audience, and generate more money with each event than my events. And I plan to keep doing it with my Global Media Partner, CSI Sports// Fight Sports. Ocho.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Hey, I. I'm. I'm glad we own this one. I'm glad we own this.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Go ahead, take it away, Floyd.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Hey, hey, Chat, stay with me real quick, y'. All. Y' all know how much I love boxing. My boxing enthusiast. I'm one that's been in the ring as well. I've trained with all the best fighters in the world. But in. In order for Floyd to come back, right, to be able to command the kind of money he wants, obviously, I'm not sure if he's in financial problems or not, but why would you. Why would you, at this age, come out of retirement after not fighting since what, 2017, if I'm not mistaken?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Something about eight years. Yeah.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Eight years outside of ex. Exhibitions, obviously, is to do what he's always said is, is. Is have a. A bank. Robbie with no mask on. So if that's what you're going to do. There are only three fights. Chat, listen to me. There are only three fights that Floyd can have that can command and get the kind of money he's looking to. To recoup for. For money that may have been lost or money that may have been stolen or money he may have spent, you know, to date, for one, a rematch with Canelo. That's one fight.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Canelo too big. He.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Listen to me, Uncle. We talk about making that money, you. He ain't gonna have no choice. Number two, fighting Pacquiao again, right? That's it.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
And the only other fight that can get him the kind of money and the kind of payday he might need if you're coming out of retirement and putting your record in jeopardy, and that's. Bud, listen. Listen to what I'm saying. Whether you want to see it or not. The only three fights that are going to get him the kind of Money. He's coming out of retirement to get that. The world wants to see Canelo, Pacquiao or Bud. There is no one else for him to fight that people are going to pay money to see. Think about it. For one, for one, in order for him to come out of retirement, you have to put yourself in harm's way. You have to take a chance. You can't just be fighting anybody. They're not going to pay to see you just fight anybody. It has to be a draw. Canelo, you gotta take a chance. He don't have a choice. He has to take a chance.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He does. Really, Ocho, his claim to fame? Yes. And everything that he's ever done was for what? That O. Yeah. If the O is gone, you look at him differently. Yeah, he's not the same, Ocho.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He's not. His, his claim to fame is that I can say something. All the fighters that you say are great, right? None of them can say that above me. You talk about Sugar Ray, you talk about Hearns, you talk about Hagler, you talk about Roy Jones, you talk about who? Sugar Ray Robinson. You talk about Lewis and Ali, whomever, he always goes back to the O. If the O is gone, where does he put his hat now?
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
I, I have no idea. I have no idea. I mean, damn, that's. I, I don't know. I don't know. I'm talking about paydays. I'm talking about paydays. You know, you're 50.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And Ocho, his reflexes aren't the same. Ocho.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
I, I know that. Huh?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I, I'm.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Well, I, I mean, I mean, obviously, once you get older, Father time catches up with you at some point, but he, he still, he's still one of the best ever.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, he's still one of the best ever. When he was fighting. Not at 50, not in his 40s. Yes. In his 20s and 30s. Yes, yes, yes. I give you a prime example when Floyd fought Conor McGregor. A prime. Floyd gets Connor out inside of two rounds.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
But he, he didn't want to. That. It's all about. It's all about carrying him. He can't. He carried him through the fight just to give the people what they wanted. But. Go ahead.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But. Yeah, look at him, Ocho, he's not going to be able to see those punches of them young kids throwing now.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Well, he's not.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's why
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
I just gave you the three. I just gave the three fights that
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ocho, he'll go and he'll go right back into retirement. I Don't think Bud to take the fight. Bud don't want to hurt him. He got too much respect for him, but hurt him. Ocho, Bud is still at the top of. Bud is the pound for pound, best fighter in the world. And you talking about coming after eight year layoff, you can come and fight him.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Do you understand why he's coming out of retirement? Are we missing the point here?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, we understand.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Come on, man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, no, no, Ocho, I hope that's not true. I hope he, oh, oh, I hope he have. Ocho, I can hope, I hope he has an itch to scratch and he needs to scratch that itch. I'm hoping that's the case, Ocho. I'm hoping. I can hope. Let me hope. Ocho, I don't want, I, I don't want to be cynical. I don't, I don't, I don't want to be skeptical. I, I want to believe that the man has an itch that he wants to scratch and it only can be scratched getting back into the ring. I don't want to think that financially his situation is unstable. I don't, I don't. Oh, why are you looking at me like that, man?
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
No, I'm just listening. I hear you. I'm listening.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, but I'm saying, why you looking at me like that?
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
I don't, I'm just listening.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm just, I'm just, I hope, I mean, we can hope on your cat with. Oh, Lord have mercy. This man here, Lord Jesus. I don't know, I, I don't, I, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I, I just know he's coming out and maybe, maybe, I mean, look, I, I chat, I, I, this is not no breaking news. Y' all have heard all the reports and people have said Florida's broke and this and I don't know, I don't know Floyd like that. I don't, I don't know. The man finances and I'm not gonna get up and say pretend like I do. I just hope I can hope. Yeah, that that's not the case.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Yeah, I mean, I, I mean, I mean, listen, I'm excited, I'm excited as a, as a flanner for it, as a fan of boxing. I look forward to him not fighting exhibition, but, but having to fight and actually train the way he's always trained. That has him 50 0. That has me excited. Is he going to look like the fo we used to seeing when he fought earlier in his in, in his career when, when he's in his 20s, when he's in his 30s, probably not,
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
but he, no, he reflexes the floor.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Yeah. Even, even, even if his reflexes are a little slower. It gives me a certain excitement. Gives me a certain excitement to know Floyd is coming back to that ring, going back into the ring and, and he's going to take a fight very seriously. He's going to change, train very seriously. It, it just makes me excited. And now I just threw out the three names. To me, despite the side, despite whoever's in their prime, despite whoever's younger. To me, to come back at this point, you know, at 48 or 47, whatever it is, and you're 50, you know, the biggest fights that can generate the most money for someone whose nickname money may. With the three names, whether people say, oh, that's dumb, or you're not making no sense, it makes the most sense from a financial standpoint and drawing in that kind of revenue. And that was Canelo, whether he's big or not. That was Bud, whether he's the best in the world right now or not. And that was Manny Pacquiao. That's all I'm saying. Whether you think it's dumb enough. I'm thinking from, I'm thinking from this aspect.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay, let me ask you a question. First of all, Canelo can't get. Canelo ain't going under 168. Bud ain't going under 160. So what? So Floyd, you're gonna have Floyd come up to 160?
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Nah, I'm, I'm, I'm not.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He's only fought one time at 154. He fought De La Hoya at 54.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
I'm not talking about weight classes. I said what makes the most sense. Now what they decide to do is on them. I'm talking about from a financial standpoint. If you're having to come back at this point in your career after eight year layoff, we talking about, okay, I need a big payday. That's all I'm talking about.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, fight Shakur. Shakur right at447. Fight Keyshawn Davis.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
No, come on, Unc, man, you can't fight a young bull. You can't fight the young bulls.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You wanna fight. You want him to fight Bud? He come out better. He gonna come out better against empty than Buddha. At least you was like, well, damn, he got a, he got a hillbilly heartbeat. Chance he not, he not effing with Bud. Just a few weeks ago. Just a few weeks ago, Floyd filed a lawsuit against Showtime Networks and the former president of Showtime Sports, accusing the company of helping facilitate a fraud scheme that deprived him of roughly 340 million in earnings.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
God damn. 340.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's. That's what the lawsuit said. I don't know, Ocho.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Time out, time out, time out, time out. Let me. Give me a paper towel. Because just 3. 340 million. Hold on, hold on. Because now you got me sweating. Let me, let me. Not now. You see what, you know what I'm, I'm.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ocho, I'm just saying I don't know why this man coming back. I'm not fit to profess that. I know, but I've heard what the chat has heard and see all the reports where people say that he's in a financial bind. I don't know that to be true. He has, he has reports that he has sold his. Some properties. May. I think he had a property in la. He had a property in Miami. He has a big. Has a big residency out here in Vegas. He has the private plane. So. I don't know. I don't know, Ocho. I don't know. I don't know. Normally, people that are well off don't go back into a sport as barbaric as boxing at 48x, y and z. That's not normal. But everything doesn't have to make sense to me. It just has to make sense to him. And obviously it makes sense.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Hey, I, I know, I know a lot of people, they, they probably gonna laugh, they're gonna, you know, talk about weight, you know, oh, they can't fight these individuals because how good they are right now. And Floyd, even though he's a little. He might be a little slower, his timing not be the same as it once was. But I'm hypothetically speaking, if he's coming back, yes, in need of huge, huge payouts for fights. I just threw out the three names that would make the most sense, that would generate the most money to maximize his time. Coming out of retirement at 48 in. In. In putting a chance and, and losing, you know, that zero. In that 500 record. I mean, it, it, it. He'd make. It'd be massive. It'd be massive. And I know Turkey Ali, if he gets involved in that, it's. It, it can be. It can. It can get. It can get ugly. Ugly in a good way. It can get ugly in a good way. From a financial standpoint,
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Mayweather says that he suffered enormous financial harm and is missing at least 340 million from a reported 1.2 billion that he actually earned in his professional fight career.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Oh, my goodness. 343. Who I got, who I got the swing on?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I mean, Ocho, he's. That's in addition. So he report, he's reporting that they, they boosted, however they did it.340, but he earned 1.2, so that's 1.5.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Damn.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Florida's lived in Vegas. So those career earnings, I mean, Uncle Sam only taking 37% because he ain't playing no state taxes. Oh, man, I just.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Hey, I like it. I like it. I listen, I'm. Listen, I, I don't, I don't, I don't care what the reason is why you're coming back. I'm glad you're coming back because I get to watch. Listen, I get to watch you fight again. I don't, I get the. I get to watch the greatest boxer of all time fight again, even at 40 years old. And he had to take it serious because his record at that state. So. I know, I know one, one. The one thing we know about Floyd, one thing we know about him, hardest worker in the sport. And he ain't taking no shortcuts and he ain't cutting no corners. So you know what you're gonna get once he step in that ring.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He lose, you still got him as the greatest fighter.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Come again? I ain't hear you.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
If he loses when he comes back, or do you still have him as the greatest fighter?
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Can I tell you something?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
If he comes back, he's not gonna lose.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, he gonna have to fight. You said he can't fight anybody outside of the people that you dismantle.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Now, the people I name, I said being able to maximize your purse outside those names that I did name, maximizing your purse would be taking those fights regardless of weight and all that stuff. I'm not sure how. I'm just, I'm just, I'm speaking from a financial standpoint, that's all.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's all you think, you think right now, give him six months, a year, he could beat Bud Crawford in a 12 round fight.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Who you how you ask how? You asking me? We, they ain't fight yet.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Do you believe you gonna have to pick a side just like the super bowl you like. Okay, I'm taking Seattle.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Yeah, Seahawks.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, you took Seattle even though they hadn't played. So I'm asking you, Floyd and Bud fight. You taking Floyd or you taking Bud?
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Oh, that's, that's Ugly, huh? That's ugly right there.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What you mean it's ugly?
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
I'm just saying, just the, the question, the question at hand, because you. Oh, that's a good one, too, huh? Who you got?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You,
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
huh? Who you got? Hey, Chad, who y' all got, hypothetically?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The chat. Everybody got bud.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
You got. You got bud.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Floyd reflexes. Oh, the man about to be 50. 50.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Damn.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
How old is, how old is Floyd?
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
48. We the same. I mean, he 48. I'm 10 years older, so. Yeah, he, Yeah, I was born in 68. Floyd. Floyd born in. Yeah. Hey, hey.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What?
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
What? Hey. Oh, I'm excited. What? Uncle. I'm ready to get back in that thing. Hey, who you want me fight.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I, I don't, I don't, I don't want to. I, I, I hate it.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Wait, wait, wait, wait. You hate which part? Wait a minute.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I hate the Floyd having to come back.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
No, I don't, I don't hate it. I want, I want to see him go. I want to see him go. I want to see him go. Hey. I want to see him go. I want to see him go. Hey, I'm ready.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That would be, that would be the equivalent that would be the equivalent that 10 years after, 10 years after Michael Jordan retired, he came back and tried to play basketball again at 50.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Hey, I like that, too. I like that, too. I like that, too. I like that.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, you make all, you make all that money, man. You make all that money, you're supposed to be able to sit generations, like, at least, at least, at bare minimum, four to five generations up and then. Yeah.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Listen, you're setting yourself up a generational
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
wealth when you live a, a minimalistic lifestyle now. Well, you can look. Oh, come on, now.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Come on.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We don't have to get into it. We know Floyd was a little extravagant. A little. He was a little extravagant.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Come on, man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, A little. Yeah. Hey, you know what the thing is? Is that what you have to realize.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Is that when you're making 200 million, it ain't nothing to spend 15, 20 million.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Shouldn't me.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But when you, but ocho, when you retire, right? You still live that. Oh, so I can go, I can go get me a car every other year. I can go get me a Ferrari or I can get a Lambo. When I'm making 20, 30 million in the money coming in, okay, the money stops.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And I still try to have that same lifestyle. See, that's the problem that you run into, is that you Try to keep the same lifestyle that you have in retirement that you have when you was at your maximum earning potential.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
It's impossible. And I understood that while I was playing.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We know it's impossible.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
I know, but sometimes people don't understand actually when, if you can, if you can train yourself, if you can discipline yourself and find a. A structured format to be able to live a minimalistic lifestyle while you're still earning, you know, at your highest potential.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
It makes the transition once you retire that much easy.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Why you think I've been. I mean, I hate using me as example, but I'm the only person I can use as an example because I'm living proof of doing it. And not only did I do it, I talk it, I preach it. And people still make fun of me to this day and still don't get it. Why I'm still well off the. When I was playing. Oh, I'm sorry.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, my bad.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Because I was a cheap son of a. You know what? While I was playing.
Matt Rogers
Yes.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
That jury was unreal. Noting watches weren't real. For what? It didn't make any sense. My name was bigger than anything I could purchase at the time. I was playing football. I haven't played football in 15, what, 12. I don't know how long it's been. And I'm still good. Nobody gets the formula. Nobody gets what I was doing. There was the method to my madness. So I wouldn't be a statistic. That's all. I didn't want to be a statistic.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I don't have any problem enjoying because a part of it is let you work so hard and not to really enjoy to buy yourself a car or to buy yourself a watch or buy yourself a nice home or do some, occasionally some stuff for your family. But Ocho, at what point in time. I like cards. I don't like 50 cars. I like homes. I don't need 10 homes. I don't. I will have a. You know, maybe I would fly private once or twice a year. Damn. But to have a private jet, right? And to have that staff, because even when they're not flying, they still getting paid. It's just like a yacht. It's just like a yacht. Oo, that takes a staff, it takes a crew. So even when that yacht's not on the water, they still getting paid.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Hey, hey, hey, that. Hey, like owning a jet and, and owning a yacht, that's for. Correct me if I'm wrong. Isn't that for CEOs?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, no, a lot of CEOs because the company owners. Yeah. Well, yeah, if, if, yeah, if you work 15, 20 billion. Yeah.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Oh, yeah, yeah. See, it makes sense for them to have it, but for us regular folk,
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I never understood, you know, sometimes my timeshares in it.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So you know what? I'm gonna spend a minute. I'm gonna spend a million dollars. A million dollars. Probably get it. Probably get me, you know, It'll get me 50 hours. But Ocho, I'm not flying overseas on no private jet because how far are you going? If it takes you 18 hours to get there and 18 hours to get back and you bought 50 hours, you. That's 36 hours there.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Hey, can I, can I ask you a question?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Curious. Why does, why do people love on Instagrams? Why do they love showing them themselves going and getting on private jets and,
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
and everybody getting on the jet setting?
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
What I don't understand what was, what's, what's.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Look, and I, and I get why people fly private because of the convenience of it. The jet leaves when you want to leave. You're not on the schedule of Delta America. And a lot of times, Ocho, and I'm just talking about high value people. I'm not. And that's what I'm talking about, Ocho. So you look at it and, and so that's, that's the, the convenience. You ain't got to worry about the airport. You pull up to the hangar, you get your car, you get on and you, you, you, you hot. Right on. You got the staff, you, whatever the case may be, whatever you want, they have it there, you get there, boom, drop you off, you get in the car, you go wherever you go. So I, I get it, I get it. As someone that has flown private, I get why the, the convenience of it. But to, but to own one, to actually say, okay, that's mine. And you talking about, you know, I mean, probably you can get a cheap one for probably around probably 5 million and they go up to half a billion. Get a cheap what a jet?
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Can I ask you.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Who make, who making, who's making that kind of money right? Where they can stand and say, you know What? He go 5 million for a jet outside of NBA, outside of owner. Owners that own NFL teams, you know, MLB teams.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What. I guarantee you, Peyton, I guarantee you Tom Brady ain't been on a commercial flight in 20 years. I guarantee you Peyton Manning ain't been on a commercial flight in 20 years.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
They don't, they don't own one.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
There's a difference that's what I'm saying. You lease it or they buy time shares in it.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Cool.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No problem.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Hey, I got a question.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes?
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Not when you say timeshare. Now this is all new to me and I'm glad I could be on here for this segment where I can learn something.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You buy hours, you buy 50, you buy 100 hours. Oh, get it for the year four.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
That's, that's, that's too high. You're going too high.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Now, it all depends on how much you're going to use it. Ocho, I just want one flight.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
One flight, Me and the kids to the Bahamas. Two hour trip.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
How much is that it's gonna take you? It all depends on how big a plane you get. All right, it's gonna be somewhere between. It could be anywhere between 25 and 5, all the way up to 20, 000 an hour.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
No, you said 25, like 25, $2500.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It all depends on the size of the plane.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Okay?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You want something that's safe. You don't want no crop duster with you and all your kids on it. So you're gonna want something safe. You're probably not gonna be able to get it for less than, probably say five to 7,000. Seven. 500 an hour.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
That's one way or two way?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's one way.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
So how are we gonna get back?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, you said you just wanted for an hour. How long is it going to take you from Miami to the, The Bahamas?
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
About 40 minute flight.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay, so it could probably cost you. Probably cost you somewhere between 10 and $20,000. Oh Lord.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
No, sir.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So, and now think about taking a private jet overseas. Take it to Dubai, take it to Africa, take it to Europe. Oh no, you talk about 10 hours and you're talking about 10 hours of the jet that's costing you $50,000 an hour or two. Excuse me, 25. Look at what what a G6 costs. A Gulf Stream 6.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Hold on. Our.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes, look up, look up what? The price of a G. A G650, because that's. I think they got a G650, maybe even a G7 right now. Let me google, see what that is for. For
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
G.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
G. What did it cost an hour just to, just to rent it an hour?
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Private jet,
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
10 to 20,000 per hour.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Ah, man. Shoot. Well, hey, hey.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So you're going overseas. Can you go overseas? I mean, I'm trying to figure out where can you fly for less than a hundred thousand? Even if you go from New York to London, that's what, eight hours, huh?
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
And that's what, 20,000 an hour? Yes, that's almost. Oh, no, but y' all can have that. Boy. Listen, I, I, I appreciate American. I appreciate Delta. I appreciate spirit, you know, but I, I can't see myself doing it unless. Unless God blessed me in some.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, I would, I would rent it. But here's the thing. Ain't nobody, none of my family is in the same. So I would have to have the jet fly. Fly to go pick up my sister, try to go pick up my mom. Fly to go. It'll come out better just fly everybody just where you from, which is me. It's just easier to do it that way. And if I'm going overseas, I can fly Emirates, I can play fly Qatar Air.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Yeah. Bingo.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I can fly one of those ocho and pay 20,000. And got a shower. I got a big old bed. I got a couch, got a big screen tv. They bring you caviar, champagne, crab, even I can't eat any of that, Right? But I'm saying, so I can fly on Emirates or Qatar Air or some of those big, you know.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And get the same luxury. Yeah. Nah, man.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Oh, that's crazy. That's crazy. You know, all them people on Instagrams be stunned. They be, you know, on the private.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I had to reassess myself, O Jo. I was like, damn, what type of life they living?
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Hey, something ain't right. I'm talking about every. Everybody flying private. Everybody. I don't know what they doing, but, you know, it's cool. I mean, listen, you get where you got to get to. I'm get where I got to get to. I'm gonna get from point A to point B on spirit. I'm good. You saw, you see, I went to Raleigh, right? You saw what I was on, right? I was, I was on spirit. I went 20 minute flight, comfortable. They gave me some peanuts. I had my little coke with no ice. Ain't got, man. Got nobody impressed, man. Child, please. Twenty and thirty grand just to fly by myself. Because I want convenience, man, please. I like to talk to people. I like to talk. So whoever sitting next to me, we've been to talk.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, but I hate it. I'm not, I'm not gonna sit here and pretend that I'm excited about Floyd coming back, because I'm not. And I wish I, I, I, I. And hopefully if, if they shorted him his money, he gets his money back. But I hate that at 40 years old, you haven't had to do anything. Oh, so I mean, just imagine, Ocho, if you had to try to go back and play football right now.
Matt Rogers
Me?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Who?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I get a boy that work. Hey, everybody.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Hey, call it, aunt.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Call it. No, no. Time out, time out. Time out. Come on, son. Come on. Come here. Come on.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Are you taking me out the game?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we taking you out the game.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Hey, I'm telling you. What. Hey, at 48 right now, shoot, if Floyd come out of retirement, I'm coming out of retirement, too. Hey, Mike Brown, Katie, Troy Blackburn. Holla at your boy. Duke Tobin, Zach Taylor. Just picture this, Unc. Me, T. Higgins, Jamar Chase, Joe Burrow, Chase Brown. Huh? I can't wait. I can't wait to hear him call my name coming out the tunnel. Starting man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Lord have mercy.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
At wide receiver for the Cincinnati Bengals, Chad Johnson did not come out. And the smoke be going and. And the fan be chanting my name. Oh, Joe. Oh, Joe. Oh, Joe. And oh, but don't let me score in 20, 26. Don't let me score no touchdown in 20, 26, boy. Oh, my God. But they gonna suspend me for the week.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I hope Floyd makes enough money against this Tyson thing that he won't have to do it.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Well, how about. Hey, what you think about me and Floyd fighting like a little exhibition? Like to give him a little tune up before he fight for real? Yeah, what you think about that?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm all for it.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
And I could wear my nightcap gear and all that. My nightcap trunks, you know? Yeah, that'll be real nice, boy.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ocho is with Very, very sad. With a very, very sad heart that I bring this news to you. You Vikings wide receiver Rondell Moore has died at the age of 25. According to the New Albany police chief today, Todd Bailey said Rondell Moore was found deceased with a self inflicted gunshot wound in his garage on his property in New Albany, Indiana. An investigation is underway. Rondell Moore dead of a self inflicted. What is being reported have a self inflicted gunshot room wounded at the age of 25.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Man. My condolences. My condolences to the Moore family, man. Damn, that's sad.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It is so sad. 25 years of age. It was. It's been a very difficult. The NFL Peer Players association is devastated by the sudden and tragic passing of Rondell Moore. The immense loss is felt deeply across our union and we value his service as a player rep. Our condolences to the family or with Rondell's family, teammate and loved ones during this incredible difficult time. In moments like this, we're reminded of how Much our players carry on and off the field to our members, Please know that the support is always within reach. Check on your teammates and prioritize your mental health. If you or someone you know is struggling, we encourage you to take advantage of many confidential resources available to you through the nflpa.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Damn.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You don't know sometimes what a person is going through.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
And.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And unless you've been through something. I'm talking about, really been through something. Yeah. You have no earthly idea. None. Everybody. All this, all that. You don't know. I promise you, you don't know. You have no earthly, earthly idea. I can't even begin to fathom the burden that that young man was carrying.
Matt Rogers
And.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
My heart breaks for his family, his friends, his loved ones, anyone that, that knew Rondell More, that cared about Rondell Moore. My heart breaks. 25. 25.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Young, huh? He just. Life just starting, boy.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And he did not. He thought this was his only way. This is the only way that that pain would go away.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Damn.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Something so hard, so heavy, that someone would take their own life. Reportedly, You don't know how bad pain is. Because, you know, a lot of times, Ocho, well, I wouldn't do this. I wouldn't do that. Everybody will say what they would or wouldn't do, but until you in that
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
situation, you never know.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You don't know what you'll do.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
People never know. Everybody always says that, huh? They do.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's what I would have did. I would have did this. I would have did X, Y, and Z.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
No, you wouldn't, bro.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Unless you walked a mile in that man's shoes. Well, that woman's shoes. You have no earthly idea. You haven't. And as I sit here and ponder when I got the news tonight that this young man was no longer here, I'm like, what was so bad that he thought this was the only way? Boy, boy, boy. You don't know. You don't know. And when you think you've gone through something, you can't go on, And you feel that's your only alternative. Because a lot of times you don't know. I mean, because a lot of times. I'll show you. Call. Hey, man. How you doing, man? I'm good, man. You know. No, are you good? Are you really good? Because sometimes, you know, you know, you just want to get off the phone. You don't want to be bothered.
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
Right? Right.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And you don't want people in your business, And you just, like, try to make the conversation. But I, I, I'm glad I have the people that I have in my life. I'll say that. Yeah, everybody doesn't have a a brother and a sister like I have and everybody don't have best friends. But boy, Ron Dell's Moore family. I am so, so sorry. And I know words. There's nothing I can say. There's no amount of heartfelt speeches. I know absolutely nothing can ease this pain that you're going through. But what I can say is that
Matt Rogers
I hope
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
is that when you fall on your knees and you ask the man above to give you strength, to give you courage and to give you understanding in your most trying time, And hopefully as time passes, you'll have a better understanding. But it's not going to be easy. Never going to forget this moment. My heart break for his family. 25:25. You think back and you think about what you were doing at 25ocho. You was having the time of your life in the NFL. Yeah, you had reached the culmination. Everything that you dreamed about, dreamt about when you was in League City and you and your boys, y' all running around, going to the pool and doing whatever you was doing. Like, man, I'm gonna be playing on Sundays one day and there it is, you're doing it. I guarantee you. When he was a kid he dreamt of playing in the NFL. My brother used My brother always says a dream is a gift that you give to yourself. And your dream should shock you. If your dream don't shock you, it's not big enough. He dreamt of playing in the NFL. He didn't dream of having season in the injuries in 24 and 25, but he dreamt of playing in the NFL. But something came along and interfered with that. It's being reported. Rondell Moore unfortunately passed away at the age of 25. Hollywood Brown, a former teammate of Rondell Moore in Arizona, said Rondell reached out to him just a few hours before he died. You wasn't alone, bro. I told you I know how you feel, bro. Ain't no way brother. You just messaged me a few hours ago. After missing the entire 2024 season with a knee injury, he suffered another season ending ACL tear during Minnesota Vikings first preseason game. Jamal Adams tweeted, I'm not jumping to conclusions, but let me say this. Fans and media be quick to label player injury prone. We don't choose to get hurt. Sometimes ish just happens. Y' all don't see the rehab, the pain, the mental drain it causes. The process can make you lose yourself. This issue is real no matter how much support you get, you still gotta fight that battle alone. Prayers up for Rondell Moore and his family. He was a baller, no question. You do. And see, that's, that's the thing, Ocho. All the support. But what happens when the phone hangs up?
Ocho (Co-host with Chad)
You by yourself,
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
alone in your thoughts. So when the phone calls, when they hang up and then everybody go home, I'm right back to square one. I'm alone in my own thoughts, thinking, Man, is this a dream? If this really my life, is this really happening again? You got to take the good with the bad, Ocho. And sometimes it's easy to question the bad. But not one time did you ever question God. Why you bless me so much. Why you let me make it to the NFL. Why you let me get all this money. Why you let me have beautiful, healthy kids. Sometimes we only call lording when things go bad. But it's when the times and things are at the best. That's when he's carrying you also. But we just don't see it. Rondell Moore to all his family, friends and loved one. Again, the Nightcap family. Oo and I and everybody here associated with Nightcap. My condolences and our heartfelt thoughts and prayers. If you're the purchasing manager at a manufacturing plant, you know having a trusted partner makes all the difference. That's why, hands down, you count on Grainger for auto reordering. With on time restocks, your team will have the cut resistant gloves they need at the start of their shift. And you can end your day knowing they've got safety well in hand. Call 1-800-GRAINGER Click grainger.com or just stop by Granger for the ones who get it done.
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Episode: Nightcap Hour 1: Ryan “KING” Garcia DOMINATES Mario Barrios to WIN WBC Welterweight Title + Gary Antuanne Russell BEATS Andy Kiraoka + Floyd Mayweather is MAKING a COMEBACK
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Podcast: Club Shay Shay (iHeartPodcasts & Shay Shay Media)
Air Date: February 22, 2026
This high-energy Nightcap edition dives into a packed weekend of boxing. Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco Johnson break down Ryan Garcia’s dominant win over Mario Barrios for the WBC welterweight title, analyze Gary Antuanne Russell’s unanimous decision over Andy Kiraoka, and react to the breaking news of Floyd Mayweather’s planned comeback. The latter part of the episode pivots to financial discipline among athletes, extravagant lifestyles, and closes somberly with heartfelt reflections on mental health in sports after the tragic news of NFL player Rondale Moore’s passing.
"He felt this power. He's like, well, damn. Yeah, I ain't expect this." (Chad, 04:31)
"Ryan did the same thing basically all 12 rounds, huh? Jab, jab, check, hook, every so often, right hand, 1, 2… He didn't make any adjustments." (Ocho, 04:56)
"He was very calm... This is the Ryan Garcia I want to see. This is a guy that was taking his craft serious." (Chad, 05:48)
"I'm trying to figure what round they gave you. Somebody gave him two rounds... maybe my TV froze..." (Chad, 09:50)
"It's one thing that beats speed, and that's timing. And having someone like Shakur... that would be, be a great fight." (Ocho, 09:15)
"I wouldn't want to be a judge in this one... But Gary did win the fight. It was good, that opponent, but he wasn't easy at all." (Ocho, 19:23)
"Floyd Mayweather Jr. said he's unretiring and will resume his undefeated career..." (Chad, 27:26)
"There are only three fights, Chat, listen to me. There are only three fights that Floyd can have that can command and get the kind of money... Canelo, Pacquiao, or Bud." (Ocho, 31:03)
"You make all that money, you're supposed to be able to sit generations..." (Chad, 46:21)
"Normally, people that are well off don't go back into a sport as barbaric as boxing at 48..." (Chad, 39:57)
"If you can discipline yourself and find a structured format to live a minimalistic lifestyle while you’re still earning at your highest potential... it makes the transition once you retire that much easier." (Ocho, 48:09)
"You don't know sometimes what a person is going through… Unless you’ve been through something. I’m talking about, really been through something. You have no earthly idea. None." (Chad, 61:07)
This episode delivers a compelling blend of boxing analysis, athlete lifestyle reflections, and real-life vulnerability. The hosts’ chemistry shines as they celebrate Ryan Garcia’s maturity and skill, wrestle with the complexities of Mayweather’s return, dissect the wisdom (or pitfalls) of post-sports living, and confront the weight of athlete mental health with humanity and empathy. For fans of sport, the athlete’s mindset, and unfiltered insight, this episode is a must-listen.