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Shannon Sharpe
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Unknown Host
Listen, listen. While I was watching the game today, before the game, before the game started, I threw out a tweet to Saints fans. I have a lot of Saints fans that follow me on Twitter, excuse me, that. Follow me on X. And the question was, are you guys optimistic about Spencer Rattler as quarterback number one? And all the answers were unanimous in saying that they don't believe in him. And there were a few that said, you know what? I'm, I'm optimistic about him. He can improve in his second year. So based on the small sample size we were able to see from Spencer Rattler today, it did look promising. But again, it is a preseason. It is a preseason. Maybe a little rusty, first time out against competition outside of yourself. So I want to give him a little grace. I want to give him a little.
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Shannon Sharpe
Grace, Tyler, but he's not a rookie.
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Unknown Host
I know what you mean. I, I know what you.
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Shannon Sharpe
He started, he started real games last year. I would expect him to look a little better the second time around in a vanilla type game plan. Then he, then a rookie, then say Jackson Dart, say Shador Sanders, say some of these. Even, even Shook. Okay, you, if Shook's gonna struggle. Okay, I get that he's a rookie, first time playing in the NFL, not a guy that started games in the NFL to play that, that, I mean.
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Unknown Host
Listen, it looked, it looked rough. But last year watching Spencer Rattler, he played better times. But at times he showed flashes of what he can do. What we have to find. He has to find that, that, that happy medium, that keel of balance, of consistency.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
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Unknown Host
Where it doesn't drop below the bar. The standard has to be the standard of consistency. He hadn't found that yet, obviously. I'm not going to panic. I'm not saying I'm a Saints fan, but just for his sake, I think quarterback number one is Spencer Rattler, I don't see a rookie beating him out. Obviously it looked good. Tyler, how do you say, pronounce the last name? Tyler Shuck, obviously probably going against the threes and the four. Once he did get into the game, you would look a certain way, you would look a little better in that manner. But I think Spencer Rattler is the answer for them. And it's, it's unfortunate but again, it's a small sample size. I wouldn't panic right now being that everything is so vanilla. But the fact that it is vanilla, you should look to par. You should look the par with it being your, your, your second year.
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Shannon Sharpe
Second.
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Unknown Host
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
I think the thing is, what's for me, Spencer Rattler's style of play will eventually get him cut in a coach fired. That's what happens when you're not consistent at that position.
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Unknown Host
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Because that position gets coaches fired quicker than anything. Get general managers terminated quicker than anything. Now they felt comfortable enough, they're like, okay, we gonna wait till this. I think they got shook in the second round. Second or third round, this is like, we like Spencer Rattler. They like him. He was a highly sought after guy. Went to the University of Oklahoma, you know. And then Caleb Williams came, he transferred, goes to the University of South Carolina. So he has some arm talent, but he's, he's just a little inconsistent from. For my taste. And it's hard to win when you don't get consistency out of that position because eventually it will get him cut and it'll get the coach fired. Because Richard Smith used to tell us all the time, he says that type of play will get you cut and get me fired. Yeah, I can't get any better because all I can do is just give you what you should be doing. It's incumbent upon you. He's kind of loose with the ball, is easily knocked out of his hands. He turns it over. But this is what the Saints, you know what happened was, is that they had. When you have quarterbacks like Breeze and you have quarterbacks like Manning and you have quarterbacks like Brady, you don't want to waste a guy. So you picking guys in the fourth or fifth round and you're letting them sit with no chance of getting, you know, not doing anything. And so when those guys move on, now you gotta rush. They tried Jameis Jameis tears his knee. They tried to taste some heel, but. But I, I never thought Taysom Hill was a quarterback. He was very good in the role that he was in as a jack. He'll Play a little quarterback. He'll. Little fullback. He could play some tight end. He's good on special teams. He's a, a, a, A Jack. Do a lot. A multitude of things, but I didn't think he was a specialist or a great quarterback. So I never thought that experiment was going to work. I think Jamis could have been good, but Jameis towards knee, and then they kind of moved. They kind of moved on from Jameis. The way I look at, I think defensively they might be a little, you know, they might be a little better. They're starting to get a little older. Honey Badger retired. Jordan. Cam Jordan is. I think he's going into his, what it's his 15th season. He was in that 2011 class with Von Miller and J.J. watt, all those guys. But in that division, you. You got to getting better because Tampa. Tampa's gotten better. I think Atlanta's gotten better. And so I, I just don't believe that the quarterback that the Saints want or need, that can get them to where they want to be a consistent team. You know, a team that wins consistently, that can get to the playoffs and maybe win a game or two in the playoffs. I don't believe that quarterback is on their roster.
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Unknown Host
I don't think so either. I, I think heavily, I think for the sake of Spencer Rattler, I think the fact that he has Alvin Kamara to take some of the pressure off of him. You have Rashid Shahid, you have Chris Olave. I'm not sure who the number three will be there, obviously, but I think his job will be a little easier because of the talent he has around him. Chris Olave is a very, very good receiver. Rashid is a burner. He's a very, very good receiver. Now it's going to be Kellen Moore to put those players in positions to be able to. To make sure Spencer Rattler doesn't get him fired. You know, there's one thing you can do is when you have a quarterback as bad as him, based on their play, you have to find a way to hide their weakness. You have to find a way to hide their weaknesses. And it's easy to do when you have players of that magnitude. Alvin Kamara is still one of the best in the NFL, despite.
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Shannon Sharpe
I'm just not gonna let Kamara beat me. I'm gonna make Spencer Rattler throw the football.
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Unknown Host
But listen, that's the thing. If you're. If you. If you're gonna go into games saying, you know what? I'm gonna make Spencer Rattler beat me. I like his chances with Chris Olavi and Rasheed Shahid. I like it, I like it.
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Shannon Sharpe
What was their record last year?
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Unknown Host
Oh, oh. But hey, you know who the number three is? Brandon Cooks. Come on now, come on now.
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Shannon Sharpe
I don't think he's the, he's not the Brandon Cook that was first in New Orleans or the Brandon Cooks that was in New England or even the Brandon Cooks that was at the Rams. I mean, think oo damn. He's been like four teams in the last four years.
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Unknown Host
He can still run. He can still, oh, he can still run. He can still get do his thing in the slot. You know, he's easy. I hate using the word serviceable, but you can put him in position to make plays, right? That, that, that's it.
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Shannon Sharpe
No, what was their record last year, the Saints? I mean, offensive line, how good is the offensive line gonna be to be able to protect him? I mean they gave up five sacks today. They were five and 12 last year, Joe.
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Unknown Host
That's tough. That's tough.
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Shannon Sharpe
Hey look, everybody's running vanilla. Vanilla offense, vanilla defense, vanilla special teams and nobody's showing anything. Nobody's trying to put anything on tape. That's going to be extraordinary. Spencer Rattler having played, I just expect it's kind of like a second year guy. A second year guy makes mistakes. The coaches are going to be harder on him because he's already gone through this the previous year. Bro. You've already. Spencer Rattler played in real games. Sometimes Ocho guys get on the practice squad, they don't get off that and then they come back and have to go through the thing again. But Spencer Rattler has been in meaningful ball games. He's actually played in a regular season and played in regular season games. So I would expect him to look a little sharper than what he did now. He was only, I mean he only threw seven passes and so he's probably only in there 14, 15 plays. The question is long term because that's what, that's what we get down to. Because.
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Unknown Host
No, I, I, I don't, I don't.
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Shannon Sharpe
Baker Mayfield is Tampa's long term solution. Atlanta believe P. Pennix Jr. Is their long term solution. Bryce Carolina believe Bryce Young is their long term solution. The question is now based on what they did now, maybe they believe Shuck is going to be able to come in and unseat Spencer Rattler and be their long term solution. But in order to win at this level, at that level in today's game, you got to get a quarterback because you know, why O Joe. Because he's the one position that you cannot hide.
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Unknown Host
Yeah, well, yeah, if I got a.
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Shannon Sharpe
Weak corner, I roll. I roll coverage. If I got a weak safety, I keep him. I put his ass down in the box. I keep him out of the hole. Okay. If I got an offensive lineman, I'll slide protection. I'll chip the back. I'll say, hey, you make sure you chip your way out. So I can find ways to protect a weakness. If it's something other than a quarterback, you can't hide the guy that has the ball every single time.
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Unknown Host
You're right. But I like that you said that. For some reason I'm thinking from an offensive perspective, thinking as myself as a receiver. And the quality, the quality of receivers they have, you know, in, in, in New Orleans. I'm thinking Chris Olave, Rashid Shahid, Brandon Cooks. They're so good I can't remember the Titans name. He's a very good service of tight end as well. I can't remember his last name. But I'm thinking that they can be put in positions to be able to hide the weakness that Spencer Rattler may have. Whatever it may be. That, that, that, that's, that's what I'm thinking. That's my thought process, you know, and as an officer coordinator, whoever the officer coordinator is, I'm not sure if Kelly.
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Shannon Sharpe
Kelly Moore, the head coach, remember he's the offensive coordinator.
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Unknown Host
Plays too. Oh, man. Listen, man, listen. I don't want to lose my job. So what do I need to do? I need to use those around me. I need to use those weapons, put them in advantageous positions because my quarterback is not as good as I'd like to.
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Shannon Sharpe
Right? Juwan Johnson and Taysom Hill are the tight ends.
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Unknown Host
Juwan Johnson, hey, he nice a young, young, young, young fella be making.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, he's more, he's, he's, he's. He's more of an f. More of the age back type. Got, you know, got receiving skills, got a. More of a move. Tight end. Taysom, he's the same thing. You can do a lot of different things with Taysom Hill. You can put him at fullback. You can, hey, you bring him in and run the tush push with him, you know, you can throw him the football. He. You can do a lot of things with him. And Kelly Moore has a very creative mind, but you've got to get consistent play from the quarterback position because it's the one position you can't hide. Eventually I'll figure you out and I'll make I'll, I'll make him beat me. I'll make him beat me and I'll see if he can do it. Hey, that, that's tough.
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Unknown Host
That's tough.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, it is.
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Unknown Host
The fact that I asked that question and, and 90% of the saints fans were like, yeah, it's going to be a long year. We might win four games. Hey, we won five last year. We still haven't, we still haven't addressed the position that is the most important that we do need. And obviously it took Tyler Shuck and what second round.
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Shannon Sharpe
I think they took him in. It took him in the second round.
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Unknown Host
No, it might have been 40th overall.
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Shannon Sharpe
40Th overall.
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Unknown Host
Yeah. So I'm assuming, I'm not sure what they saw and feel from him as opposed to what we saw on film from 12. But listen, that, that conversation is like beating the dead horse. They saw what they saw. I'm not sure the scouts were and felt he was there. So maybe he is. Maybe he is. We'll, we'll find out.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yep, the Dolphins rookie Quinn Ewers struggled in his preseason debut. He was four of 1663 yards, zero touchdowns, zero interceptions, two sacks, two lost fumbles. Yours afternoon afternoon did not do anything to create a possible position battle between himself and Zach Wilson, who went 5 for 9 as the primary backup Ocho because Wilson was 5 or 9 for 96 yards. When we go back and look at lo, which rookie impressed you the most this weekend? Shador Sanders. Sanders was 14 of 23, 138, two touchdowns on the road. Cam Ward 5 of 867 yard Jackson Dart 12 of 19, 154, one touchdown. Jalen Milro 6 of 1061 yards. Tyler Shook 15 of 22 165, one touchdown, one inception Cam Miller 76 of 7. You can make a difference in someone's life, including your own, with a job in home care. These jobs offer flexible schedules, health care, retirement options and free training. They also provide paid time off and opportunities for overtime. Visit oregonhomecarejobs.com to learn more and apply. That's oregonhomecarejobs.com.
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Shannon Sharpe
76 yards of a touchdown.
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Unknown Host
I mean listen, everything we saw from the rookies, you know, this, this, this past weekend, obviously when I impressed him the most is the one that had the most time, had the most time to be on the field and that was Shador. Obviously he impressed him the most. What we saw from Cam Cam Ward in such a short amount of time, he looked good. He was wheeling and dealing. Looked very comfortable at the quarter that position and outside of that everyone was fair. Everyone was fair and in no scenario, in no scenario that I would, that I did. I think that Ken er would beat Zack Wilson out of out, out of his job. I I didn't think that. I know Zach is probably going to be quarterback number two and if things aren't going well and, and, and Tua gets hurt, I think Zach Wilson be able to come in and make the plays necessary based on what we saw from him at the Jets. Always running for his life with that old line which is the same thing that happened to Aaron Rodgers. I think he. He will be fine. The the other quarterbacks Tyler shucking and it was nice but again you're going against three and fours. Is that really a tail tall how my grandma said a tail? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Based on. On what you're gonna get again it's so it's such a small sample size from everybody and what we're doing. It really doesn't say much until the bullets are flying for real. When the bullets are flying for real and teams are scheming and they game planning now that's a whole different ballgame.
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Shannon Sharpe
I thought Jackson dart looked good. Yeah, he. He pushed the ball down the field. Jalen mirror flash potential. You know he has a big time arm Ojo. He has incredible legs. He just got to get a little better with his consistency and touch things that you can work on. But I agree with you. I think the thing is that we wanted because but all these other guys have gotten major reps. You gotta realize your daughter didn't get major reps. So now. But the mental reps that he was taking in the game that was able to help him process and do the things necessary in order for him to have the type of performance that he had. Now I'm hoping this week they play probably at home. He gets an opportunity to consolidate that. You know in tennis when you break a serve they say let's see can you consolidate it when you break something? When you know, when you hold your own serve so you consolidate it. Let's see if he can consolidate that. What he did on Friday night, another performance on what he can do, you know when they play Thursday or Friday.
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Unknown Host
Ash.
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Shannon Sharpe
So if he can consolidate that, I think you know, Cleveland can look and says okay, I think we have a guy that has the right mental makeup because you have to be incredibly strong minded in order to play that position.
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Unknown Host
The funny thing about it, I'm glad you said that they play again Thursday you said right, they play Saturday. Play Saturday. Now what happened? What happens? I'm curious to see how Stefanski and they work the players back in. So when Kenny Pickett is healthy, when Dylan Gabriel's able. Dylan Gabriel is healthy, what do they do then at that point does Shador go back down to. To number four? When. When they're back healthy, how does it.
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Shannon Sharpe
Ask yourself what we just talked about. Oo we talked about this. When Dylan Gabriel was in at any point in time in training camp, did he look as good as should look, do or look Friday night at any point in time is a simple yes or a simple no.
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Unknown Host
I don't. I don't think so.
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Shannon Sharpe
And before Kenny Picket got hurt, at any point in time, did he look as good and in camp or, you know, minicamps, OTAs, joint practices? If he made it that far because he seemed like he got nicked really soon, did he look that good?
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Unknown Host
I doubt it.
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Shannon Sharpe
So.
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Unknown Host
It'S tough. But listen, they've been playing games, right? They've been playing games, the political games. You know what I'm talking about? I don't. I don't need to address it. The elephant in the room. You can see it clear as day. So I'm just saying, are they going to play games? But we're going to find out. I think I'm going to see if there's still going to be some funny business. Even despite the way he played, are they still going to play that political game? I'm. I'm. I'm curious. I'm just curious to see now if they do play Saturday. Now let's see what happens. Is Dylan Gabriel going to be. Be healthy? Is Kenny Pick going to be healthy? Are they going to get the chance to prove themselves? I'm. I'm just. I'm. I'm really curious what's going to happen Saturday. Oh.
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Shannon Sharpe
NFL Insider says Shador Sanders still stands behind Dylan Gabriel for the Browns coaches. Gabriel is ahead of Sanders in the eye of the coaching staff, but rarely in training camp has that position match what we've seen on the field. The quarterback situation remains the story of camp and should do. Sanders is settling in to lead. Three scoring drives in the most extended action of the summer won't make the team's consistent stance that Sanders is fourth in a line any less perplexing. No reasonable person thinks Sanders will be fully ready to lead a team and consistently attack a complicated defense three weeks from now. He's shown enough talent and growth, however, to make anyone believe he should be on the team and have a chance to develop into the starting, starting quality player. Sanders is talented. His throat out of the end zone to wide receiver Greg Lovardin in the preseason. Over, over. And his floater down the sideline to receiver Luke Floria later are proof. Until we see Sanders get practice reps with, with the number one offense, we can't believe the Browns view him as having much of a shot to be the number two when the season begin. I agree with what they're saying, but that's my. My point is. Okay, you said, have we seen enough? Have you seen Enough for Dylan. What have you seen from Dylan Gabriel to make you think he can be number two?
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Unknown Host
Did you hear. Did you. Who the. Excuse me. Who wrote that?
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Shannon Sharpe
The Browns athletic insider.
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Unknown Host
The Browns athletic insider. Right. So you see Shador do what he does three quarters of football.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
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Unknown Host
Three. I think. Maybe. Maybe played well into the fourth quarter, Right? In a live game, you saw him play the way he played and still question if he can do the same thing when he has the actual starters at his disposal. I'm confused.
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Shannon Sharpe
My thing is, he says no reasonable person thinks Sanders will be fully ready to lead a team and consistently attack a complicated NFL defense three weeks from now. What about Dylan Gabriel? Has he shown you enough to make them believe that three weeks from now he can lead this team against a complicated defense? I. I digress even further. Has Kenny Pickett ever shown you that he can lead a team against a complicated defense? Because all I know is that what I keep hearing is what you're telling me what he can't do. Like my coach just said, college. Hey, we'll put it. Find something that he can do. See, you keep telling me what Shador can't do. Well, your job as a coach is to put players in position and find something that they can do.
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Unknown Host
But where's the can coming from when we just saw him do it? I know it's a small sample size. It's 3/4 of football, but everything you said he can do, he just did. Matter of fact, he just did what we already saw him do at Jackson State. He just did what we saw him do at Colorado. We just did. Even though it's a small. Sam aside, Unc. I played the game for a very long time. I played the game for a very long time. I'm a receiver. I know what it's supposed to look like. I know what it looks like. When there's a quarterback that's playing in a game and he's confident, he's polished, his pocket presence, his mannerisms. I know what it should look like. We've seen Kenny Pickett with the Steelers. If he was the answer for Cleveland, he would have been the answer in Pittsburgh. No disrespect to him.
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Shannon Sharpe
What was the qu. What's the question? You asking what? Because if Kenny Picket is the. If Kenny Pickett is the answer, I need to know the question. Did he play for the University of Pittsburgh? Yes.
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Unknown Host
I. I don't. You know what? I don't. I don't know what more. I don't. I. I don't know what more Listen, when you, when you, when you fill out your resume. Right. When you fill out your resume.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
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Unknown Host
And you're going for that job interview, you want to put your best foot forward. You want to keep a lasting impression. Well, the last impression is what, what we saw Friday night from the person they claim is the fourth, is the fourth string quarterback.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
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Unknown Host
Okay, what do we do? We build from that on Saturday?
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Shannon Sharpe
Well, you build from that. No, you build from that starting in practice while giving him more reps, more quality reps. You don't leave him in the position that he was in where he's getting a handful of reps with the threes and fours. You give him some opportunities with the ones with the twos. I'm not saying you, he has to take 5, 6 reps with the ones, but I'm saying you sprinkle. Maybe you give him one or two reps, maybe you give him three or four reps with the twos. I do agree with this. Until we see Sanders get practice reps with the number one offense, we can't believe the Browns view him as having much of a shot to be number two when the season began. True. I do. I do agree with that statement. You're not going from four to two. If you four training camp, then all of a sudden the season start your number two, they're going to need to see you with the ones and twos to feel comfortable because they got to make a decision. And when you make that decision, you release somebody. Ain't no guarantee that you're going to be able to bring them back and put them on your practice squad. Somebody might sign them and put them on the active roster. So that's the case. Ocho, do I stay on your practice squad for say, 25, 30,000 or do I go somewhere and get an opportunity to get a real roster spot and make almost a million dollars a year? So that's the question that you have. That's a decision that you make when you release these guys. Because I'm sure there are some guys, you know, I would love to have him have another year learning our system. And when we come back next year having a the OTAs, the training camp, the season of working, the scout team stuff, when we come back for OTA oo, he should be good to go. He should be fully developed and good to go. So I don't want people thinking I'm that we beat OO and I beating up on Zack Jackson. I agree with what he's saying, but my thing, I'm more talking about the Browns as a, as, as an organization, as a coaching staff. Are you are you are. Because the fans are saying you want us to believe you or our lying eyes? I, I, I know. I know. I know what my eyes. I saw. I know what I saw. I hear what you're saying. I'm. But I see better than I hear y' all keep telling us Dylan Gabriel. Dylan Gabriel. But we have yet to see him. Now, everything that I see is that no, he's, you know, she's not better than Shador. For most of the articles that I've been reading it. Hey, people can write whatever they want to write. So I'm, I don't want to put too much emphasis, but I haven't seen, I haven't read a whole lot that where they said that Dylan Gabriel is better, has been played. Has played better or playing better than.
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Unknown Host
What did I tell you? What did I. What did I tell you not too long ago? But how can. Look, I'm not, I'm not saying no names again this time because I, I don't want to get nobody in no trouble. What did I tell you? And then exactly what that individual said who's in there every day that plays on the other side of the ball and has to see it. Exactly what he said way back then, we saw it show up. The fact that he's not getting first team reps with the ones of the twos and still went out there and looked the way he did. What does that tell you Anybody?
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Shannon Sharpe
He getting marginal reps to begin with. Damn the ones and twos. Ocho, he barely getting reps at all.
- [33:34]
Unknown Host
And then st. Okay, I say no more. Again. Say no more. So you're not doing him justice in practice, but still showed up in the game and looked the par and looked like that. What does that say? But we gonna see Saturday. And I hope Dylan Gabriel gets his opportunity because I would love to see what he does and then what he gives that offense and that, that coach staff that believes in him. I'm hoping he gets a fair shot. I'm hoping he does. I'm hoping he does. I would love to see it. I would love to see it. I know he's a competitor. He was great at Oregon. He was really good. So I'm all, I'm all for it.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, it's. Let the guy like. It's like when you in that situation, the guy flashes normally when guys flashes in camp. Ocho, you and I both play the NFL for a long time. We both played at a high Level every team that I've been on, when a guy flashes in practice, a guy flashes in the game, he get, he gets to move up and he gets meaningful reps, more meaningful reps, meaning he's no longer on the third or fourth. They'll sneak some reps in with the twos, maybe they'll give him one or two shots at with the ones. That's normally how it worked. They're not so set in their ways that it's like, oh, we just see this guy as. It's kind of like td. I give prime example. TD was a guy. TD was a six round draft pick. TD was probably like the fifth of the sixth running back. But every day he made that play on kickoff and every day you saw TD get a little better. They gave him a little bit more reps. And so all of a sudden he go from six to five, from five to four, four to two after the first game of the season. TD 1. Normally that's how it plays out. Guys show you in the game. Because when guys flashing practice Ocho, you're thinking to yourself, I wonder if he do that in the game. Hell, coach, put his hands in the game, let's see what he could do. That's normally how it happened. Wade Phillips, our defensive coordinator, that's how I got in the game. He said, dan put his ass in the game. Let's see if they can cover him. Cause we can't. Dan's like, okay, they put my ass in the game. Well, Shador, I think Shador showed you something that he deserving. I'm not saying he needs to. You need to implement him as the starter, the number one Ocho. We didn't say that. That's not what we're saying. But I think he's shown you enough. Friday just says, you know what, we might need to give him some more quality reps with guys that's going to be playing on Sunday. And let's see him facing the number one defense, Miles Garrett, those guys over there. But let's give him Jerry Judy, let's give him in Joku. Let's see if he can replicate some of that, what he did on Friday with the ones today. That's all we're saying.
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Unknown Host
Can I, can I say one more thing?
- [36:52]
Shannon Sharpe
Go ahead.
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Unknown Host
If you can do what he did without getting the practice reps in a game without the number ones around them, things only get easier when you have the ones at your disposal that are better at the position. Cedric Tillman and Joku Jerry. It only becomes easier. It doesn't get, it doesn't get more difficult now once you're playing against the team, that scheme for you and disguises and, and does all the, all the stuff, you know, with a game planning for you. Okay, that's different. Then you just have to process a little bit faster. That's all everything is. They line up and they just go.
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Shannon Sharpe
That's exactly how it is. But Ocho, you get better at something by doing said things.
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Unknown Host
Exactly. Heard what you just said. You get better at something by doing said thing. But he wasn't doing said thing because he wasn't getting and still looked the way he did. They don't do it that way. They, that organization, they don't view it that way.
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Shannon Sharpe
How?
- [38:04]
Unknown Host
I, I don't know. I don't know. But I'm guessing in the direction in which they're going. I'm hoping they're right. They haven't been right in the 35 quarterback that they tried previously. Or maybe I'm wrong.
- [38:23]
Shannon Sharpe
No, I just think I do believe that he's earned the right to get quality reps with the ones and twos. I'm not saying that you implement him that now he's QB1. I'm not saying it's QB2 maybe, but I think he's earned that opportunity.
- [38:46]
Unknown Host
I know one thing. I know one thing. They better put a statue of Andrew Barry outside that goddamn stadium. Yeah. Tell you that. I, I listen. I can already foresee how it's gonna go. I already know how it's gonna go. I can already see it. They gonna continue to play. Continue to play. Continue to play. Put everybody in front of them, Continue to play. And then when this opportunity presents itself like it did because of injury, he looked a certain way. You can't deny it. You can't deny it. No matter what you try to do. You can't deny it. You can't.
- [39:33]
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho and, and Cleveland doing this. Sometimes a man can make his destiny on the very road he took to avoid it. Sometimes you might, they might even have their quarterback even though they tried to avoid giving him the opportunity.
- [39:52]
Unknown Host
Come on now.
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Shannon Sharpe
On the very road you took to avoid it, you found your destiny. I, I, I just, I'm not saying I'm general manager. I'm not saying I'm a player personnel director. I just know that when guys flash go back. Tom Brady, they kept four quarterbacks that year. Coach Belichick said that he saw something in Tom that said if he got more of an opportunity, he might be okay. He didn't Know he was going to be this. Hell, if he knew he was going to be that, somebody would have taken him in the first pick in the draft. But he flashed enough guys, you know, late round picks, okay, like he. He showed something. He just. Some. Sometimes you just need time. Sometimes you need more opportunity. You know, looking at Trey Lance. Trey Lance, like he needed time. Time which the 49ers didn't have. The 49ers are on the clock. They got to win. Now with the roster that they have, they're not in rebuild. Well, the Cleveland. What do you. I mean, you just gave a guy $140 million. He's under the assumption now he played it both ways. You know, I want out. Y' all not winning. Got the money. Hey, but what are y'. All. What are y' all doing? Are y' all in rebuild or you're trying to win? Because y' all see who's in your division. Quarterbacks Lamar Jackson and. And Joe Burrow. Now, LaMar Jackson is 27, 28. He go got. He got another five to 10 years in Baltimore. Joe Burrow might be a year younger than Lamar. He's got another five to ten years in Cincinnati. Well, while y' all playing musical chairs with quarterbacks, they've identified their guy, and he's going to be there for the almost a decade. You're not beating a team that has an established quarterback playing musical chairs with quarterbacks.
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Unknown Host
No, not at all. Not at all. Listen, I mean, it's. This is. It's exciting. It's exciting. And listen, even as a. As a Bengal fan, as a Bengal player at heart, it's. It's enjoyable to be talking about the Brown. It's enjoyable, huh? It's. It's exciting. It's. It's exciting for. For. For Brown fans. I mean, when's the last time you had a player of this magnitude who's a rookie that has you guys in the national spotlight like this, right? At all. At all times?
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Shannon Sharpe
Basically. Yeah. You got to go back to Johnny football.
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Unknown Host
Oh, hey, boy. Johnny boy. Johnny was special, boy. And out of Texas A. Johnny was special, boy. You were special.
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Shannon Sharpe
So it's.
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Unknown Host
We'll.
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Shannon Sharpe
We'll see. It'll be interesting to see when they go out to practice today. I mean, excuse me, today, tomorrow. What comes back? What type of reps did Shador get? Did he get ref with the ones? Did he get a rep or two with the ones? Did he get anything with the twos? Or was he back relegated to being the fourth quarterback and getting one rep with the with the Fords or no reps or just getting side work. That's going to be the tail that that's going to tell us Ocho because what they talking and and what's actually happening. We'll find out. We'll find out and we'll see what they do how they play this thing out on Saturday when they play the game. You can make a difference in someone's life, including your own, with a job in home care. These jobs offer flexible schedules, health care, retirement options and free training. They also provide paid time off and opportunities for overtime. Visit oregonhomecarejobs.com to learn more and apply. That's oregonhomecarejobs.com.
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Shannon Sharpe
Teams are reportedly monitoring Tyreek for potential trade. According to espn. Jeremy Fowler. I've talked to a few teams who are at least monitoring his future a little bit. Could he be a potential trade target? Now, I know Dolphins earlier this summer were telling teams, no, we're not trading Tyreek Hill. But they just wonder, is he going to be available? It could be wishful thinking. Maybe they want him to be available, but he's a player. When I bring up the teams. Hey, who? Sort of a trade target. You're watching. They bring up Tyreek Hill. So we'll see. He's a big option for Tua. And they would be a major move if they did move away. A move away from him?
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Unknown Host
Yes, sir.
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Shannon Sharpe
Are they? Will they? Should they? Your hometown team, you grew up watching trade Tyreek.
- [47:16]
Unknown Host
Absolutely not. Absolutely not. You want a chance to compete in AFC east against the Buffalo Bills? You want a chance, you take away one of the most dynamic weapons in the NFL. Are you serious? I love hn. I love Waddle. They have some great.
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Shannon Sharpe
Waddle got nicked in Friday's practice, so he didn't play today.
- [47:37]
Unknown Host
They have some great receivers also on that squad. But we talk about one of the greatest receivers to ever play who is still very viable and one of the best in the game. Top five. I don't care about that goddamn down season. Come on now. The fastest steel in the NFL. We talk about trading them. That, that, that makes no sense logically. If you're serious about winning, I need all hands on deck. The best weapons I can have. Tua has that, regardless of their issues. Personally. Listen, I'm not there to like you. Everybody's not going to get along. We come into camp with one goal, one goal in mind to win games and hopefully compete for them. Lombardi in San Francisco. This ain't no goddamn Kumbaya moment. What are we talking about? You want your best players on your team, offensively and defensively, so you can go out there, compete on Sundays at 1 o'. Clock. You don't trade them away, not when they're still this good. What sense does that make?
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Shannon Sharpe
I think a lot is predicated on Tua's health. He gets nicked again, they're gonna move on.
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Unknown Host
How? They just paid him last year.
- [48:59]
Shannon Sharpe
Tyree, if.
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Unknown Host
If Tua gets hurt, they gonna. Okay. You think so? Wait a minute. Wait. Whoa. Wait a minute. Slow down. Wait, slow. Come on, now. Wait a minute. I don't want. Help me understand that. Because if Tua gets Hurt, right? Wait, stay with me real quick. Tua gets hurt, Zach Wilson comes in. Why would you take that weapon away from Zach Wilson, who was also a serviceable quarterback?
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Shannon Sharpe
I don't want him to hurt himself, you know, with. With loaded weapons in the house. You got to be careful with kids that don't know how to handle Zach Wilson. Don't know what to do with that. And here's the thing, Ocho. When people name keeps coming up as trade target. Somebody talking. He said that Jeremy Fowler just said that basically every time he reached out for a name, who should he be monitoring? Why everybody keep reaching the Tyreek Hill's name? You know why they, they. He had a down year. They didn't appreciate how he handled the end of the year, which I told you they were going to be unhappy with that you. Because what he got on his chest, Ocho, he got that cap.
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Unknown Host
Yes, sir. You.
- [50:24]
Shannon Sharpe
You. You do things a little different than a normal person. So even when you don't feel like it, Ocho, sometimes you gotta suck it up. Like, hey, man, man, we ain't got no chance, man. We died 31 to nothing at the start of the 4th. You can't come out. You got to go down with the ship. They didn't like how he handled that. There are some other things that's. That was going on that didn't like how. Oh, so he got off to a bad start. Remember the first game of the season, the police, you know, he coming through the stadium. You coming into the stadium, you know, got Khalees Campbell in handcuffs. They got John Smith, you know, it's just like, is this too much? And so I do believe the Dolphins had mentioned that had potentially dangled him out there.
- [51:18]
Unknown Host
Listen, you could dangle all you want. You could dangle them like. You could dangle him like his mistletoe, you hear me? And somebody, somebody will come along. One of the top five threats in the NFL from an offensive, offensive weapons, that's a dream come true. Allowing him to be available. What are we talking about? Talk about a team that's on the verge of. You know what? If we can add this to our offense, that gives us another weapon that gives another chance to get that much better.
- [51:51]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, man.
- [51:52]
Unknown Host
Come on, man. Please, Please. I can understand if he slowed down or he's not the same Tyreek he used to be. Man, I just watched young Bull run ten goddamn one. He ain't even no track runner. He's a football player. Someone that is fast as he is, that is dynamic as he is. On the field on Sundays. And even when he loses, step in. When he's 35, he's still faster than everybody else. But you know what? We gonna dangle him out there for trade talks, huh? He makes our offense that much easier. He makes it easier for Waddle. He makes it easier for Tua. He makes it easier for A Chan. Why? Because they always got to have somebody on the top of that young bull.
- [52:38]
Shannon Sharpe
Always.
- [52:39]
Unknown Host
He opens up.
- [52:41]
Shannon Sharpe
I know what he is.
- [52:42]
Unknown Host
Huh? This is what we want to trade away. Come on, man, stop playing. We want a chance to be able to beat the Bills. We want to. Who gives us our best chance to beat the Bills? Well, maybe just the most dynamic receiver of all time in the history of the game that happens to be on our team. Hell, we can't even beat Josh Allen. Now we talk about trading away. What? Man, stop playing. What are we talking about? Maybe, maybe, maybe the talks. Or maybe this will get him to get in line. Maybe this should get him to stop some of the shenanigans he's doing. You know, take away his personality. Why would you do that? Don't take away what makes him him. I, I, I, I don't know. I don't know. Anytime there talks like that, Unk, you know, it comes from somewhere. I know that. Most of the time it come from in the house. The call is always coming from in the house.
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Shannon Sharpe
Jeremy said, but he's a player. When, when I bring up the teams, hey, who is sort of a trade target you're watching. They bring up Tyreek Hill. So no matter the team, when he's like, man, who, who you watching? Who you think might get traded? Everybody faking the same thing.
- [53:56]
Unknown Host
If we talk about getting traded, we'll be waiting on, what are we waiting on? What are we waiting on? Why are we waiting for the season to start the trading, if that was the point, hey, you could have got. You could get rid of him. Last year in the off season, during the draft, the season get ready to start. Now, he had been through training camp playing well. He's not playing in preseason games. You could let him go already. So what's the point of the conversation being brought up before the season even start? That makes no sense.
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Shannon Sharpe
Hey, you know, there's been some trade deadlines. I mean, some, some guys right at the trade deadline get moved.
- [54:28]
Unknown Host
I tell you one thing, the right team gonna get him. Hell, I, I wouldn't. Don't, don't be surprised to end up back in Kansas City. Yeah, don't, don't be Surprised? You see what they got.
- [54:44]
Shannon Sharpe
Worthy Tyree.
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Unknown Host
Rashid Rice and what's my dog name?
- [54:53]
Shannon Sharpe
Who that?
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Unknown Host
What's with Arizona, man?
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh, Hollywood. You talk about Hollywood?
- [54:58]
Unknown Host
Yeah, Hollywood. Come on, man, stop playing. Yeah, all right. Play around if you want to. You think, you think Mahomes won't be up there? Mr. Reed, Mr. Hunt, man, going to get 10 and bring them on back over here. Yeah, okay. And Kelsey, But y' all want to play.
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Shannon Sharpe
They got Robert. Tanya, too. Yeah, he was really good at Green Bay until he hurt his knee.
- [55:28]
Unknown Host
Hollywood Brown probably come on down. You know, Brown. Heat from the crib. I can see that tree. I'm just throwing this out there, hypothetically. Oh, you want to trade? Okay. Yeah, we're saying Hollywood Brown down to Miami, so we're gonna exchange speed for speed.
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Shannon Sharpe
That's a. I mean, Hollywood ain't making the kind of money Tyreek is. 30 million. Hollywood Brown might be making. 5, 6. Dolphin general manager Chris Greer said in April before the draft that he had no intentions of dealing Tyreek, but an offer including two first round picks would be enticing. Nobody's gonna give up that. Nobody gonna Give up no. 2 first round picks for no receiver and, and, and, and, and play it gotta pay. Maybe a second, maybe a second, maybe a, a third and a fifth. How's Tyreek? 30, 31.
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Unknown Host
Hey, look, is Tyreek a player we can use and, and worry about the age factor?
- [56:33]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't, but teams do.
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Unknown Host
All right, listen.
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Shannon Sharpe
You know, they put it. They put expiration dates on everything.
- [56:42]
Unknown Host
They can do that. But this expiration. Listen, the expiration date on that one is a little different than every else I know. Play stupid games, you can win stupid prizes.
- [56:55]
Shannon Sharpe
I just don't believe he's going for two first round picks. I think if they made, I believe, had they made it more palatable, I believe they'd have traded him this offseason if they like.
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Unknown Host
Okay, that would have made more sense either the off season, the draft.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
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Unknown Host
Now we bring it up before the season starts, huh?
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Shannon Sharpe
I mean, Devonte went for two first rounders, what, four years ago. But how was Devonte? Devonte was what, 27 then? So it's gonna, it's gonna be extremely interesting. He was 28 at the time. He. 32. Okay. Nah. Only a quarterback 31 can go for two first rounders. You'll trade. You'll trade two first rounders for Lamar. You trade two first rounders for my home. Hell, you give up three first rounds for those. Josh, Allen, Joe, there are certain guys you know?
- [57:52]
Unknown Host
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
And I don't think any of those guys. I think Mahomes will be 30 his birthday. Right. But I don't think any of those guys are 30 currently. But it's gonna be, it's gonna be interesting. It's gonna be very interesting to see how this season starts because a lot of times it's how to see how's the season going. Ocho, we ain't got no chance for the playoffs. We got a chance for the playoffs. Let's go ahead and get some draft capital, Ocho. Let's go ahead and get this. 30. 31. 30. $31 million. Yes.
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Unknown Host
Okay. I mean, I like it. From, from, from that standpoint, I understand it.
- [58:35]
Shannon Sharpe
They all. That's how they think.
- [58:36]
Unknown Host
Absolutely. Oh, I know that. I know the, I know the business side of it, because if you're not using the 31, 31 million dollar receiver the right way, you pay him 31 for a reason. Not using them in the manner in which he's making 31 for a reason. Well, that's on you. That's on you.
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Shannon Sharpe
Ojo, the Chargers have Justin Herbert doing running back drills. You've got to check out this video courtesy of Nate Goncy. Godsy gods me.
- [59:14]
Unknown Host
I like it.
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Shannon Sharpe
That's a, that's something Jim Harbaugh put together because that's, that's, that's, that's something he would do.
- [59:24]
Unknown Host
Have him out there doing, Doing running back drills.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Going through the gauntlet.
- [59:30]
Unknown Host
Have a look.
- [59:31]
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, you know, sometimes, you know, you, oh, you know, you come through, Ocho, you know, they, they, you know, you working on your grip, they gonna tug. Yeah, but normally they don't have the guy getting up off the ground like the running. But like a running back, like a running back would.
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Unknown Host
Damn. Now you got.
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Shannon Sharpe
But, but that's the only thing you, I mean, the guys, the guys, you know, guys tug, you know, you get the ball, you're not used to carrying the football. Hey, he's making sure you, you keep it secure. But like I said, I mean, normally they do it a different way than that, but hey, Jim has his way of doing things and it's kind of served him well because he's won. And it didn't take him long to start winning once he got there. So I don't have any problem.
- [60:13]
Unknown Host
And I'm mad. Man, you got me hot, man. You got me hot, man. I'm just sitting here thinking about what you hot for. We talk about trading Tyreek, man, that's almost as ridiculous as Saying, you know what?
- [60:26]
Shannon Sharpe
They traded Randy Moss. They traded Terrell Owens. They traded James Lofton. So now I'm gonna ask you again. Now you tell me which one of those three guys Tyreek is better than right now. They cut Jerry Rice. Now you tell me which one of the four guys I name Tyreek's better than.
- [60:48]
Unknown Host
I'm still mad. I'm still mad. And I have you right, every right to be mad. Because I'm thinking about my Dolphins. I'm thinking about my Dolphins in us. In us having a chance for those that say, oh, you a bangle, blah, blah, blah. Listen, I'm from Miami, Florida. I was born at Jackson Memorial Hospital. I was born at Jackson Memorial Hospital, right near Overtown, at 308 on January 9, 1968. Therefore, I grew up watching the Dolphins, Dan Marino, Zonka, Mark Duper. So therefore, that is where my love and passion, enthusiasm, being a Dolphin fan comes from. So the fact that he gives us our best chance to compete offensively in the AFC's against an animal that they have down there in Buffalo, New York, by the name of Josh Allen up there.
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Shannon Sharpe
But, yeah, we know you're going.
- [61:34]
Unknown Host
Come on, man. What. What are we. What are we talking about? Are we even trying?
- [61:37]
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, down there, he'd be playing in Cuba.
- [61:39]
Unknown Host
Huh?
- [61:41]
Shannon Sharpe
I said, if he was down, he'd be in Cuba. But you didn't answer my question, Ocho. I asked you. I gave you some names. I said, they cut Jerry. They traded Randy. They traded James Lofton. They traded to. I just gave you four names. I said, now which one to better than me.
- [61:58]
Unknown Host
Which one bit?
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Shannon Sharpe
They cut Jerry.
- [62:01]
Unknown Host
Yeah, you're right. I'm thinking the business.
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Shannon Sharpe
Repeat what I just said.
- [62:07]
Unknown Host
You said they cut Randy. They cut to.
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Shannon Sharpe
They traded. They traded Randy. They trade. Remember? They traded Randy to Oakland. Oakland. Traded him to Tennessee to. No, traded him to New England. New England, traded him back to Minnesota. Minnesota. I think Minnesota released him and he went to Tennessee, and then he ended up in. Then he ended up in the. For with the 49ers.
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Unknown Host
Damn, man. I just. Don't say it's icky business, huh? Golly. Just, Just, just think, Just thinking about that, man.
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Shannon Sharpe
I mean, well, if you think about it, T o. T o was a free agent and there was some mix up with the paper because he was supposed to go to Baltimore.
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Unknown Host
Oh, no, he wasn't going to Baltimore. Oh, no, I remember that. I remember that conversation. Oh, he wasn't going to Baltimore. Absolutely.
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Shannon Sharpe
Well, I mean, his name was kind of on the Contract, but that's neither here nor there. Kind of hit up there. We'll move on to that. And then he goes to Philly. We saw what happened to Philly. Philly. Philly released him. He goes to Dallas. He got released to Dallas. So we're talking about. Bro. Cowboy. You know the Cowboys released Emmett, right?
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Unknown Host
Yeah, they did, huh? Hey, it's the nature of the business. It's great. It's grimy. That's why you got to get as much as you can while you're in it. Yes.
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Shannon Sharpe
I. You get no. You get no qualms from your boy because we both. We both have been on the ends, and we know how this thing works.
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Unknown Host
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Hey, when you. When you. When you play a professional sport, money and memories, you try to gather as much of both as you can, because it's going in.
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Unknown Host
Yeah. At some point, it's a small window of your life. The NFL, it stands. Not for long because it's a small opportunity. And the years go by so fast. Huh? You look up, you'd be like, well, God damn. I mean, you're seven already. Yeah. Yes.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yep.
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Unknown Host
That's why you got to. You got to protect your chicken. But the fun. But at that ride, man, it goes by so fast, like a roller coaster, you don't even realize it.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yep. Pete Carroll was asked today about Geno Smith obscene gesture as he defended his quarterback. He said, did you see the sign? Did you see what the sign said? Next question. Well, we know what the sign said. Bigger bus. Gino or Jamarcus Russell? Was Gino and Max Crosby overreacting?
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Ryan Seacrest
Hey.
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Unknown Host
I mean, eh. I wouldn't. That. That's a tough one. I wouldn't say overreacted. Boom. You're talking trash to me. You got a sign right in my face. All I done for you. I'm back here in Seattle. And that's what you think of me? I laid my life on the line as your quarterback number one for a couple of years. You know, things didn't work out. And that's how you think of me? I'm coming back. I'm coming back with grace. I love you. I did everything I could for you as a Seahawk. And that's how you feel now? You feel I'm a bus? What are we talking about? Huh? If anything, you should be applauding me. Clap for me. I know as a quarterback number one, you hold me to a standard, as is. Is. Is in comparison to some of the greats. I wasn't Tom Brady. I wasn't Peyton Manning. But I'd done all I could and laid it on the line for you week in and week out. 12.
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Shannon Sharpe
It's not even. I mean, it's not even close to being true. Now if Geno Smith was Ryan Leaf, okay, we have a conversation about him or Geno. I mean him or Jamarcus.
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Unknown Host
Don't do that. As a fan. Like, come on, man, that's not.
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Shannon Sharpe
Gino was comeback player of the year. He threw a career high 30 touchdown lead the league in completion percentage and earned back to back pro bowls. So by no stretch of the imagination is Geno Smith the bust.
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Unknown Host
No, but I mean, listen, fan do certain things to get up under your skin. You know, you leave a situation most of the time and you come back. Some people let their true feelings show on how they really feel about you. Now, I understand you might be to the Seahawks, but all I've done. This is how you really feel about me. Truthfully, now that I'm not here, even if you like, yeah, man, don't. Don't do me like that.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
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Unknown Host
Don't do me like that. You mean I dated you for. For. For. For. For four, five, six. Six years. And now that I'm going, wait, this is how you truly feel about me? Now that I'm no longer around because I'm. I'm of no value?
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
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Unknown Host
That hurts. That stings. So I can understand where the middle finger came from. I understand. Like, what are we talking about? I sacrificed you to make you happy. On Sundays at 1 o', clock, I was throwing touchdowns at DK and Tyler Lockett to make you happy.
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Shannon Sharpe
Noah Fant. I. A lot of players play for teammates respect, coaches trust, fans, appreciation. I guess you didn't appreciate me as much as I thought you did. So. It does hurt when you put it. What you. When you put what you put into it. LeBron might not ever admit this, but it hurt him going back to Cleveland, considering what he gave him. Yeah, he left. But bro, I did lay it on the line for you. I gave you seven great years. Did all I could. And then you burned my jersey. You say all these things about Gino's.
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Unknown Host
Like.
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Shannon Sharpe
I had. I. I resurrected my career in Seattle. All I wanted was to be appreciated. I know my teammates respected me. I know my coaches trusted me. Does when you put. When you put a lot into something Granny used to say all the time, boy, I hate an ungrateful person. That irks me too. That irks me too. I hate ungratefulness. We see out of the best sometimes. You better be Careful what you wish for. You thought you. I, I guess you didn't like. You didn't like Gino. Well, ain't no, Ain't no. Ain't no thing that you're getting. What's his came from Minnesota. Sam Donald Sam Darnold. Ain't no guarantee. He ain't got the weapons that he had in Minnesota. He ain't got no Jetta, he ain't got no Addison, he ain't got Hawkinson, he ain't got Aaron Jones, and he ain't got Kevin oconnell calling plays.
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Unknown Host
He got.
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Shannon Sharpe
And we saw the la. We saw the last two games, right? Did you see the last two games?
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Unknown Host
You got jail.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh, so what, Ocho, what was the craziest sign you saw as a player?
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Unknown Host
Oh, man, that's a good one, huh? That's, that's a good one. Hey. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. I enjoy those environments, too. I, I, oh, my goodness. The craziest sign. Probably the, the old, the Ocho instead of Ocho Cinco. Probably Ocho stinko. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Most of the time. And then it's so funny. They would have their signs. They would have their signs and I would talk trash back. And, you know, I walk up to the stands and talk.
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Shannon Sharpe
Did you sign one of their signs? Didn't you sign?
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Unknown Host
Somebody always sign that sign and listen. And they always say the same thing, Listen, we do this because we love you. It has nothing for the wrong team. But you won our favorites. And everybody say the same thing. They don't really mean it, but they don't have a choice but to go against me because we, I'm.
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Shannon Sharpe
If you really did suck. Nobody says the guy that they getting in the game. It's only the players that's really good that suck. Which means you don't. You don't actually suck. That means you're very, very good. Ain't nobody booing Tom Brady's backup. They booing Brady. They're not. Boy, they're not booed to Payton, man. The guy, I guarantee you, if, if the quarterback, I mean, look, they're gonna blue the opposing team. But the loudest booze. Let's just say Tom Brady wasn't first, he was third. They gonna be looking for Brady. Cause they want to boo him. You boo greatness.
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Unknown Host
Oh, there was some. Hey, I talk about. I love playing in hostile environments. I love, love. I couldn't listen. Playing at home, cool. That's fun. But I like people cursing and talking trash and all that. That did. That was just. I Was so comfortable being uncomfortable in hostile environments.
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Shannon Sharpe
Well, y', all, y' all rival. Y' all rival was Cleveland. Because remember when Sam White got on the phone and said, don't throw batteries. You live in Cincinnati, you don't live in Cleveland. Yeah, yeah, you got that. That was. That was you guys. Because you're both in Ohio.
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Unknown Host
Yeah. Battle of Ohio. Right?
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Shannon Sharpe
So. So it's. It's a. It's a natural. It's a natural rivalry. I mean, look, there was no love lost in the. Before they renamed the AFC north, it was the AFC Central. I think it was still the AFC Central. When you got in, they changed it. Like in 02, they went to the. The eight. The eight. The four team divisions because it used to be Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Baltimore, Tennessee and Jacksonville. We were all in one division. We were all in one division. And then they, you know, they split it up and then they took Jacksonville and Tennessee and put them in the South. You know, we used to be in Seattle, used to be in the AFC West. Then they went to the NFC West. But it states the Chargers, the Raiders, us in Kansas City. But like, when you got like the rate the Raiders, you know, obviously the Raiders and. And was our biggest rivals because we came in. They came in like the AFL together, the Chiefs. But it's different play. It's definitely different playing on the road than at home. You feel it as you driving in. Everybody's already tailgating, you know? You know what I'm saying? Oh, they already tailgating and they. They do it. They throw in the football. They got. They drinking beer all like, how the hell y' all drinking beer at nine.
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Unknown Host
O' clock in the morning?
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Shannon Sharpe
But they, you know, they getting their thing. They getting their. They grilling Cleveland. Cleveland fans, I love them. I will give them credit for as little as they've won in the last 30 plus years. The Mofos show up every. Everybody I can understand had they went to the AFC Championship game or they went to the super bowl. And even if they lost, but the way they show up for their team to not win more than what they do, I ain't seen nothing like it. Ain't no way I'm gonna go sit down there in the cold, let alone get up and tailgate.
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Unknown Host
Right?
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Shannon Sharpe
14, that's going 4 and 4 and 13. 4 and 12. Oh, no.
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Unknown Host
I had. I had a special relationship with those Cleveland fans, especially Big Dog. I'm not sure what Big Dog is at this point. Every time I do, I'm on here, we talk about Cleveland. I always Curious how Big Dog is doing. Everyone that sat in that, I think that might be the north. The north end zone. They showed such love in a hostile way. And I made sure to show that love back. Even though obviously they're. They're the opposing fans. But I've always showed them respect. They've always showed me respect. And they knew, understood when it was game time, huh? When it's game time, man, forget you. We gonna have some fun. And I remember. I remember getting permission. I think I might be the only person that's done that and been accepting of that is when I did, I leaped in the dog pound, remember? You remember when I jumped in the.
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Shannon Sharpe
Dog pound and they pulled out that beer on your ass?
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Unknown Host
So I asked Big Dog before the game started, I say, listen, if I happen to score on this end, I want to jump to you. No disrespect, but let me jump to you. And he said, yeah, well, come on and do it.
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Shannon Sharpe
And lo and behold, you know, he one person, right?
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Unknown Host
Yeah, Big Dog. Yeah, one part big. Big man. Big man. I.
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Shannon Sharpe
But there are more people in the crowd than him.
- [75:43]
Unknown Host
Listen, I scold on that end, Unc. And I looked for him and I saw him. I jumped right to him. Everybody else around, man, I smell like beer. To hold the rest of the game, huh?
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Shannon Sharpe
Did they shove your ass right out of the club?
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Unknown Host
But listen, that was. Hey, that was a great moment for me, man. That was a great moment. Cleveland Brown.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, you, you. You wild for that one.
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Unknown Host
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Shannon Sharpe
Ah, come on. Why is this taking so long? This thing is ancient.
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Unknown Host
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Shannon Sharpe
We've got a lot of work to do.
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Unknown Host
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Shannon Sharpe
Death is coming for our family.
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Unknown Host
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