Nightcap Hour 1: Seahawks BLOW OUT the 49ers + Broncos BEAT the Bills + Bo Nix FRACTURES Ankle in Broncos Win

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Nightcap Hour 1: Seahawks BLOW OUT the 49ers + Broncos BEAT the Bills + Bo Nix FRACTURES Ankle in Broncos Win

Date: January 18, 2026
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe & Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson

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Episode Overview

This episode of Nightcap delivers a passionate breakdown of two major NFL playoff storylines: the Seattle Seahawks’ crushing victory over the San Francisco 49ers, and the Denver Broncos’ nail-biting overtime win against the Buffalo Bills—a bittersweet triumph shadowed by quarterback Bo Nix suffering a season-ending ankle fracture. Shannon Sharpe and Chad Johnson analyze key plays, highlight coaching decisions, debate controversial calls, and discuss Super Bowl implications, all while infusing their banter with authentic emotion and insider perspectives as former star players.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

I. Seahawks Demolish 49ers (41-6)

[04:39] – [15:58]

• Total Domination, All Phases:

  • Seattle delivered a "demolition job" in all three phases (offense, defense, special teams).
  • Notable Quote: “It’s hard to overcome, you know, a special team, touchdowns. Ocho, they just do something to you.” — Shannon Sharpe [06:30]
  • Seahawks set the tone immediately with a 95-yard kickoff return TD (Raheem Shahid).
  • Defense forced 3 turnovers and stopped the 49ers on downs three consecutive times.
  • Kenneth Walker rushed for 116 yards and 3 TDs, tying Sean Alexander’s Seahawks playoff record.

• Ocho’s Take on Game Impact:

  • Playing in Seattle is already tough with "the 12th man."
  • The special teams TD instantly put the 49ers "behind the eight ball."
  • Notable Quote: “At no point in the game were the goddamn 49ers in the game at all.” — Chad Johnson [07:16]

• Defensive Simplicity and Execution:

  • Sharpe praises coach McDonald’s simple, fundamentally sound defensive approach, reminiscent of the Legion of Boom.
  • “Simplicity. Let's do a few things great, as opposed to doing a lot of things okay.” — Shannon Sharpe [09:28]

• Personnel and Coaching Praise:

  • Seattle’s defensive front and back end are both highlighted—standouts include Leonard Williams, DeMarcus Lawrence, Spoon (Tariq Woolen), and Love.
  • Coach McDonald is called a potential Coach of the Year candidate for the turnaround in just his second season.

• QB Context & Sam Darnold’s Fit:

  • Ocho praises Darnold’s situation in Seattle’s system, downplaying past turnover issues and emphasizing fit and coaching.

• 49ers’ Struggles and Missing Pieces:

  • Injuries to key 49ers (Bosa, Fred Warner, Kittle) are recognized as factors but not excuses.
  • “You got to make do with what you have. ... There are a lot of teams that have injuries.” — Chad Johnson [19:49]
  • Both agree that the outcome was about Seattle’s dominance.

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II. Broncos’ Overtime Win & Bo Nix’s Injury

[25:29] – [29:50]

• Thrilling but Costly Victory:

  • Denver beats Buffalo 23-20 in overtime on Will Lutz’s FG, after a dramatic back-and-forth and two late penalties.
  • Stat lines: Bo Nix: 279 yards, 3 TD, 1 INT (before injury). Josh Allen: 283 yards, 3 TD, 4 turnovers.

• Bo Nix’s Fractured Ankle:

  • Coach Sean Payton’s press conference breaks the bad news—Nix needs surgery, out for playoffs.
  • “Come on now. Damn boy. That’s a buzzer.” — Shannon Sharpe [27:03]
  • Discussion shifts to backup Jarrett Stidham, with Ochocinco offering faint hope but highlighting the change in Denver’s outlook.

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III. Josh Allen’s Meltdown and Coaching Questions

[29:51] – [38:35]

• Allen’s Costly Turnovers:

  • Sharpe and Ocho scrutinize Josh Allen’s four turnovers ("played like doodoo") that doomed Buffalo’s season.
  • Notable Quote: “Take a knee and get your ass into the locker room.” — Shannon Sharpe [30:45]
  • They highlight Buffalo’s missed opportunity, as Allen was the last remaining MVP quarterback in the AFC.

• Blame Game – Allen & McDermott:

  • Sharpe questions if it’s time for a "new voice" in Buffalo, pointing to repeated playoff failures.
  • Ocho defends McDermott in this game but acknowledges discussion is warranted.

• Game Management & Critical Errors:

  • Both critique late half mismanagement and the pivotal fumble before halftime (“Sometimes you can be too confident, sometimes you can get greedy. They got greedy.” — Shannon Sharpe [35:35]).

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IV. Controversial Officiating and Key Calls

[35:49] – [47:44]

• Decisive Plays, PI Calls, and “Process of the Catch”:

  • Extended dissection of the overtime interception ruling: Jaquan McMillan rips the ball from Buffalo’s Cook—Sharpe explains the “Calvin Johnson rule.”
    • Quote: “If a receiver catches the football and he goes to the ground, he must maintain possession...throughout the act of the catch.” — Shannon Sharpe [36:35], [47:05]
  • Discussion on pass interference (PI), consistency, and how refs impacted the ending, with grudging agreement that the crucial calls were correct.
    • Ocho: “I hate the fact it came down to the yellow flag.” [39:21]
    • Sharpe: “If the guy had did Shakir like that, would you have wanted that play call, yes or no?” [53:35]

• Rule Explanations and Clarifications:

  • Both hosts break down the rules and explain them to frustrated fans, teaching as they banter.

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V. The Human Side: Loss, Regret & Perspective

[62:08] – [71:52]

• Emotion in the Locker Room:

  • Clip of Josh Allen expressing pain: “Feel like I let my teammates down tonight.” [62:20]
  • Sharpe and Ocho empathize, drawing parallels to their own career heartbreaks.

• Broader Reflections on Failure:

  • Sharpe: “The mind replays what the heart can’t delete. I was heartbroken.” [69:55]
  • The cost of chasing the Super Bowl—lifetime of work, fleeting opportunities, and public scrutiny.
  • Ocho equates playoff heartbreak to heartbreak in any life pursuit: “It could be a relationship. …You think about the years and time you spent investing in something and not getting that return…” [66:13]

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VI. Bonus: Locker Room Banter & Soccer Fandom

[78:47] – [81:46]

• Light Moments – Jackets and Soccer Legends:
  • Playful exchanges about Sharpe’s vintage jacket, flag-planting ceremonies, and skydiving into Mile High Stadium.
  • Ocho’s soccer fandom—meeting Brazilian Ronaldo and Neymar, describing a “draft-day” level excitement.

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Memorable Quotes (with Timestamps & Attribution)

• On Seattle’s performance:
  “They dominated the entirety of the game—at no point in the game were the goddamn 49ers in the game at all.”
  — Chad Johnson [07:16]

• On defensive philosophy:
  “Simplicity. Let’s do a few things great, as opposed to doing a lot of things okay.”
  — Shannon Sharpe [09:28]

• On playoff heartbreak:
  “The mind replays what the heart can’t delete. I was heartbroken.”
  — Shannon Sharpe [69:55]

• On Josh Allen’s struggles:
  “He played like doodoo. …I ain’t talking about any kind of doodoo. I’m talking about like diarrhea. Like slippery.”
  — Chad Johnson [72:45]

• On process of the catch/interception rule:
  “If a receiver catches the football and he goes to the ground, he must maintain possession...throughout the act of the catch.”
  — Shannon Sharpe [36:35], [47:05]

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Seahawks vs. 49ers Breakdown: [04:39] – [19:49]
• Seahawks Defensive System/Coaching: [09:27] – [12:33]
• Broncos vs. Bills Results & Bo Nix Injury: [25:29] – [29:50]
• Bills’ Turnovers and Offensive Woes: [29:51] – [34:20]
• Controversial Overtime Calls: [35:49] – [47:44]
• Locker Room Pain & Life Lessons: [62:08] – [71:52]
• Soccer Legends & Offbeat Banter: [78:47] – [81:46]

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Tone & Style

The hosts' banter is lively, raw, and loaded with firsthand football wisdom, often bouncing between candid analysis, humor, and poignant reflections. Sharpe’s voice switches smoothly from locker-room bluntness to teacher-mode, while Ocho’s style is frank and relatable but never mean-spirited.

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For Listeners

Whether you missed the games or are reliving the playoff drama, this episode offers all the crucial details—on-field heroics, coaching decisions, and the emotion that turns a playoff win or loss into a life-defining moment. For fans of the NFL and of Club Shay Shay, it's a must-listen for both tactical insights and the human stories behind the scoreboard.

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Kenneth Walker finished the game 116 rushing yards and three touchdowns, tying the great Alexander the great Sean Alexander the great Seattle running back Seattle Seahawks running back for the most touchdowns in a playoff game. Ocho, this thing got started from the job. It's hard to overcome, you know, a special team, touchdowns. Ocho, they just do something to you.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Hey listen, they take the win out yourselves for one. You're already playing on the goddamn road having to deal with the 12th man. Then obviously, you know, you practice all week and you focus on the offense and the high power octane that is the Seattle Seahawks offense. Then you know what they, you know what they look like on defense. And then they have to deal with the special teams too. They come out and score as soon as the game starts. It already puts you behind eight ball. Then you can't get nothing going offensively on top of the turnovers you having in the game. Hell, you really don't stand a chance to actually let alone win. You can't even compete playing like that. And so I mean damn, all three.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Phases they dominated all three phases.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

They dominated the entirety of the game at no point, at no point in the game. Were the goddamn 49ers in the game at all? And listen, I tweeted at one point they were up. They were up by. By maybe about.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Maybe about 4, what, 17, 3, 17 6, something like that?

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

It was 17 6. I said, listen, at some point, the pendulum is going to shift. The momentum is going to shift. Can the Seahawks get enough of a lead when that moment momentum shifts where the 49ers don't have a chance to come back? Most of the time, monkey watch football for a very long time. Most of the time, when it does shift, the other team makes a way and finds a way to come back and crawl their way back into the game tonight. Man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, that wasn't even close. I don't know what that was happening. I don't know if I've ever seen this before. A team only had 50 plays. Team ran 50 plays, Ocho, and get 41 points. Okay, let's just say for the sake of argument, we'll take that special teams play away. But still, they got 34 points on 50 plays. That's crazy. That is crazy. You cannot. In the postseason, I don't care how good your team. And we'll talk about this. Buffalo, you turn the ball over four times now. You know, Sean got a little conservative there. 5 turnover.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

My bad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But in this game right here, Seattle, man, that defense, they're good at all three levels. Their back end is really good. Ernest Jones, the fourth takes the ball away. Big Leonard Williams and D. Long. DeMarcus Lawrence has found new life getting out of Dallas. He finds the guys are playing for one another. They fly to the football. Big Leonard Williams is since been sensational. Man, you know, they got guys that can make plays on the offensive side of football. They can run the football with Kenneth Walker, what, the third Charbonneau. But the receiving end, they make plays. I mean, they just. They're just a sound football team. Very, very well coached. And I think the thing is, defensively, Ocho, when you watch them, they don't do a whole lot. They don't do a whole lot. I mean, from what I see, they play some quarters and maybe. Man. Man down in the red zone. But other than that.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Simplicity. Let's do. Let's. Let's do a few things. Great. As opposed to doing a lot of things. Okay. Yeah.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

And I think that's one of the reasons why defensively, most of the time, they're really not ever out of position because they do the simple things, and they do the simple things very Very well. Obviously, when you have the personnel that they do have defensively, it makes it a lot easier. We don't have to do all the exotic shit. You don't have to confuse your opponent with all type of different coverages and schemes and tactics to be able to do things. And the fact they were able to put up 41 points tonight. Minus. Let's. Let's. Like you said, let's take out the return from he. They still put up 34, 35 goddamn points. Sam Donald tonight, he was only 12, 17.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's it. One TD.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

The JSN. That was it. That is how good they played tonight. Kenneth Walker Jr. Played well. Cooper cup led the team with five. Five for 60. But that goddamn defense, boy, that goddamn. I don't. I'm not sure who they gonna play. I don't know who they gonna play. Obviously, we'll find out tomorrow.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'll be honest with you. Oh, Joe. Now, you never want to put the. You know, the card in front of the. The horse in front of the cart. Well, that's where it goes. The car in front of the horse, but gotta pull the car. I mean, when you look at Ocho, when you just look at them and the way they rally to the effing football, I mean, it's not one. I'm like, well, hold on. Hey, Ralph, I bet they got too many men on. Ain't no way in hell, bro. Hey, hey, Nah, nah, nah. We only supposed to have 11. They gotta have 13. Ain't no way that they get to the ball that quick. And they do.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

That's exactly the front 40.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They can generate pressure. Occasionally they'll come with a blitz, but most of the time they just generate pressure with that front four. Hey, that number three. Oh, oh. But if you look at them, they play defense just like the old Legion of Boom. The Legion of Boom basically played one cover. They played single high. Robber, we call it back then. He used to call it lurk Cam Chancellor lurking, looking to pick up any crossers. They call it robber. Now he's looking to rob the crossing route or the income. Other than that, that's it. That's all they played. If you look at this team, listen, they're a very simplistic coverage team. Good luck. Good enough against Spoon and Wolin. Got love at safety. You got Ernest Jones the third. Excuse me, the fourth. And then you got those guys just swarmed up. D liners swarm. They're fundamentally sound. McDonald. You know, this is a really tough. Because Ben Johnson could get coach of the Year Brable could get coach of the year. DEO Ryan can get coach of the year. McDonald up in Seattle can get coach of the year. I, I, I mean look, there are a lot of worthy candidates. Hell, Sean Payton can get coach of the year. There are a lot of worthy candidates. But the job that McDonald has done with this team in his short time there, this is only second year. Yeah, only second year.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Phenomenal.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And here it is, they NFC Championship game with that game on their home field. Go ahead. Ooh.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

The funny thing about it too, those that in the chat that are watching now, you understand the importance of a quarterback. You look at some of the teams that have struggled and, and then, and it's his goal to say for Sam Donald, situations matter. Where you go matters, coaching matters, the.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Person, organization, I don't give a damn. Brady could go to the Jets. He gonna be, he ain't gonna be. To do what we know.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Well, yeah, what we're used to seeing. So I mean Sam Donald is in the perfect situation. I, I know I've said it multiple times on the show. I know Minnesota is kicking themselves in the foot, you know, for, for actually allowing it out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's kind of hard to kick. But I get what you said. We chat, we get, we, we know what he was saying. Chad. Come on now. That's, oh man.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Listen, I'm trying, I'm trying to prevent from cursing. That's why I said that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We know, we know, we know what.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

You be right, right, right. But, but hey, Sam Donald's playing exceptional. Playing exceptional. Obviously I've been worried about him. He's been somewhat, he's been turned over.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he's been very, you're right.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

I think he had 20. But yeah, he, he had 20 something interceptions. Huh.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He had 20 plus turnovers.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

20 plus 20 plus turnover. So I was worried about him going into the playoffs. I was hoping he just took care of the ball because the defense was so well and if they, if they can play defense the way they played tonight and special teams, they do what they need to do and, and, and Sam Donald doesn't put the ball in harm's way and just allow, allow offensively, whatever the defense, just don't lose it. Just take, just, just, just don't lose the game trying to make too much bad situation worse.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You're right, you're right. Oo and when you look at this team, like I said, they're very well coached, they're disciplined, they're good in the special teams area, especially on punt kick return because he Is, is a, is a Pro bowl player. On their special teams on the other end, they do a great job of tackling. They pin you down, they make you, they don't give you big plays, they make you nickel and dime your way down the field. And that's the best way to play defenses, defense is not to give up anything cheap, anything deep. I believe if you have to consistently drive the ball 10, 12, 15 plays, I believe I can make you turn it over as opposed to giving up a one or two, you know, a 60 yard run or a 50 yard pass play. I believe if I make you go first down, first, second, okay, convert, third down, first, second, conduct, conduct, convert, third down. I believe if I make you continuously have to nickel and dime your way down the field, I, I believe you'll stub your toe. I believe you'll make a mistake. And that's all I need. Yeah.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

And you know what else is good? If you look at the landscape of the team to the left, let's say for the NFC in general, you look at a game like Tonight, offensively, Chris McCraft, Christian McCaffrey causes an issue regards to who they're playing because they can create mismatches by using him in a multitude of ways offensively. But because the goddamn Seahawks are so good in all three levels, whether it be the front, whether it be the second level or they got damn back end, they match up so extremely well. Some of the things that Christian McCaffrey is able to exploit when they're playing other teams. Play somebody like Seattle, it's not happening. Like he had some runs, he wasn't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Able to do what he know he does.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Nah, there were no gases tonight. And boy, they was putting a hat on him tonight. Boy. Boy, they was putting the hat on him tonight.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, Jones IV had two takeaways, he had a pick, had a force fumble, ripped it out on the tight end. But I thought, look, from about week, I mean for like the last month after what they did to the Rams, they showed me something. Being down like they were and, and, and, and, and, and finding a way to get up off the mattress and to win that game in overtime in the fashion, not only did they tie because the Rams go right down the field in overtime, get a, get a touchdown. Pat, they're up seven and for, for Seattle to match it to go down the field and then say, you know what? We ain't doing no more overtime because the next score win, we're going to win it or lose it right here. And they say, you Know what? We're going to win it. And Sam Donald does a great, did a, did a great job. Seattle's gonna be a tough idol, Joe. They gonna be. I don't care. Look, the game, obviously we can say the game favors Chicago because they're, they practice in that and they play more often in those kind of conditions than the Rams. But anything can happen on a given Sunday. That's why we love football so much. Because it's one thing. It's one game. It's winna go home. There is no tomorrow. There's finality once postseason. It's not like that in any other sport. They say game seven. There's nothing like game seven. Well, in the NFL, every playoff game is a game seven. Whether it's the wild card division or the AFC Championship. Obviously the super bowl, we know what that is. But every playoff game in the postseason, I mean every playoff game in the NFL is a Game 7. No other sport has that. Because I get four chances. All I got to do, I got to beat you four times. But that, it doesn't work like that in NFL. I ain't got to beat nobody four times. I gotta win. If I win four games, if I win four games, I'm a wild card. I'm g. Be the super bowl champ.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

I'm holding up the trophy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

In other sports, if you win four games, all they, all you did was advance, advance to the next round.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Oh yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Four games in the NFL, in the postseason, you su. Both champs. But look, San Francisco, you know, the injuries, the in and out, you know, they lost Trent for a minute, the wide receiver. I thought they did, I thought they, they, they played well. But sometimes, you know, team just has your number. Teams. You have your number. Seattle, Seattle is. I'm not so sure if the 49ers have all their pieces that they're a better football team than, than, than, Than Seattle, you know.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

You know, I, When I think about it, I think about if they had Bosa, if they had Fred Warren.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. Yeah, because you got to be. Because they can't get pressure on the quarterback, Ojo. It's so hard for them to get pressure. And you got to have somebody that can win quick. You need somebody that can win right now, that can win his one on one matchup. They got. And they don't really have that. Fred Warren is not going to make them some of the mistakes that these guys were making. They're trying to go under and they get pinned and it spits out or they go over and the guy cuts Back Fred is not going to make some of the mistakes. He's too veteran of a player. He's going to read and diagnose what's going on a lot sooner than these guys. But I think from look and it's you, these games are always close. Normally. Normally. I mean, the first time they played up in Seattle, they. The 49ers won, but it was a very close ball game. The second time, it was a 133 ball game. The 49ers felt that, you know, what if we eliminate some of these turnovers, oo we like our chances because we've already. We've already been here and won before. So it's not like it's foreign to us. It's like. Like it's out of the realm of possibility that we can't. We can win because we've won here before. So, you know, you feel somewhat good. You like to have Bosa because you had Bosa when you won the first time, you had Fred Warner when you run run the first time, you had Kittle when you won the first time. So you would have liked to have some of those pieces. But you got what you got. You got what you got. I mean, I look good.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

You got to make. Yeah, you got. You got to make do it what you have. Obviously, I think it hurts not having Kittle, not having Boson, not having Fred Warner, but you think when it comes to this time, when it comes to playoff time, there are a lot of teams that. That have injuries, maybe not. Maybe not injuries to some of their star players to the extent of that of the 49ers. But you got to make do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

You got to make what you got. So, I mean, it's unfortunate, I think, for the 49ers.

[Sean McDermott]

It's hard for me to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look.

[Sean McDermott]

It's hard for me to understand why.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

So, I mean, it is what it is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I'm trying to think. I'm looking at the 49ers, maybe a D lineman, maybe a corner. I mean, losing Huffanga, who's in Denver right now, their safety is. Man, I just don't know. I mean, the past didn't jig, but I don't know what 36 was looking at. I don't know what he's looking at. Oh, why would he look back inside? The quarterback is rolling towards the sideline. You look back inside and he throws it and Jigma slides and catches it. I'm like, what are you looking for?

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

That was a nice drop in the bucket, too. Now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, he looking like your mom called him, like he heard somebody. You called me mom? No. Oh, man. See, oo I mean, when I go to games, this is why and, and, and, and we're going to talk about the Bronco is why I came, man. I see some stuff, bro. I'm like, bro, what I just. Okay, come here, son. Come here. Let me ask you something right quick. Tell me what you saw. What did you see?

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I, I, I don't know. I don't know.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

But yeah, you got, you got to understand too unk. Now when you, when you're watching the game from a fan perspective, even though you play the game and when you're watching from a high level view today.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh, 22, we can see everything up behind with your.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sometimes, you know what we see with a, with a, with a clear eyesight, they can't see.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

You know, and the bullet, and the bullet, you know, is flying. You know, It's a thinking man's game out there, huh? Thinking man's game. So one mistake, one slip up, one step behind.

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[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

You look the wrong way, you hesitate, you peek in the backfield. That's all it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The only thing that I tried to do. Go ahead, go ahead, you say. Yeah.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Millisecond, you out of position.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The only thing that I really, that I really emphasize, OO is that I never tried to get beat on what I've seen on tape. If I know a guy like the cross face, I can't let you beat me cross. Now if you step cross like you gonna cross my face and come out the backside. We need to get a different running back because he too goddamn slow to hit. Other than that, OO you're gonna make, you're gonna have drops, you're gonna make some mistakes. But as I told, I remember Patan. I got a chance to holl at him. I saw his dad, I saw his dad also talk to him. I say, in the playoffs there are no incidental plays. Every play matters. See some in the regular season. OO sometimes the first quarter play might not have an impact in the rest of the game, but in the postseason, every play matters. Every play matters. And so you're like, oh, don't worry about it. We'll get it back. But that's the dip, you know. Now all of a sudden, instead of a seven point, you got three now that's four point swing.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Nav Green]

This show contains information subject to but not limited to personal takes, rumors, not so accurate stats, and plenty more. What's up man? This your boy Nav Green from the Broken Play podcast. Look, it's the end of the season. The playoffs are here. But guess what? It ain't the end of your season. You can always tune in with Broken Play podcast with Nav Green on the Black Effect podcast network. Not a team who ain't going to the playoff. The Chiefs.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What's a wrap?

[Nav Green]

It's time to rebuild. Who your MVP right now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Then Drake May up there. Josh Allen up there still. Oh my boy Matthew Stafford. Where did Bo Nicks at? He ain't too far behind. He did all this stuff. Topic what Matthew Stafford is doing statistically bro is crazy.

[Nav Green]

Bro, you know I ain't no Josh Allen fan, but Matthew Stafford got better weapon. Caleb Williams.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, he should be in that conversation. In what conversation?

[Nav Green]

He should be in it. Listen to Broken Play with Nav Green from the Black Effect podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean I. I thought both. You know what, let's go ahead and talk about this game. We we'll come back to this. The Broncos beat the Bills in overtime head to the AFC title game. Will lutz made a 23 yard field goal to win it in overtime. Following two late penalties could get to get Denver in the red zone. Bo nicks pass for 279 yards, three touchdowns. He did have one interception. Josh Allen threw for 283 three touchdowns, but he had four of Buffalo's five turnovers. But the big news came after the game Ocho when Sean Payton took the podium. Let's take a listen to what he had to say about this breaking news.

[Josh Allen]

Not Good news. On the second to last play in overtime, Bo fractured a bone in his right ankle. He's scheduled to have sur surgery Tuesday of this week, which will put him out for the rest of the season. Steady's ready to go. And it was. Yeah, it was the second to last play before he threw the. The pass to Mims. Birmingham is where he'll have the surgery with Dr. Waltrip. And I don't really think there's any other questions, you know, in other words, this is just. Is what it is, and we felt like it'd be best to just tell everyone now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, come on now. Damn, boy. That's a buzzer. Look.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

I know. No, yeah, that's bad luck. Listen, second. Second play. The second last play before the game, you know, after playing entirety of the game. I mean, that sucks. Especially for Broncos fans, I'm sure. Obviously, losing your starting quarterback, that changes everything. That changes the way your offense is called. That changes the way your offense is run. So now someone else has to step up. I'm not sure who is your.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let's get them started with the Patriots from Auburn went to the Raiders.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Yes, I remember Stidham. I remember Stidham. He's. He's not Bo Nix. I. I think he is capable of maybe win you a game, obviously. Listen. Listen to me now. I'm trying to give you some hope. I'm trying to give you some hope.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm trying. Young lady's name Hope.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

So what, you. You ain't got no. You ain't got no faith?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Instead, bro, we gonna face the Patriots or the Texans?

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Hey, both two defensive dogs, too, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And then for some unforeseen reason, you get past them, there's a great chance you're gonna play Seattle. Oh, I saw what Seattle. I was in New York when Seattle did that 438 demolition job on us. I'm good.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

So basically you. You want to start packing y' all stuff for Cancun now? What?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm gonna enjoy this. I get 24 hours to enjoy this.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Okay. Don't feel bad about this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I feel bad. He was selected in the fourth round of 2019 draft. Ocho. He's not in his third season with the Broncos serving as a backup to Knicks for two of those. Stidham is one in three of the NFL starter. He last started the game in 23 when he went one and one over the last two games of the regular season. Stidham has thrown eight touchdowns and eight interceptions in 20 NFL games. The Broncos, they got. They get the ball. They go right down the field. Little John Humphrey, little Jordan Humphrey, bro. He drop it. He dropped a touchdown. Now he came back and caught one in the second Ocho. But that's four points. Yeah, the same play that I think. Who was that? King K. They caught the touchdown from the slot. Run the fade from the slot. That's the same play little Jordan Humphrey dropped. Cortland. Bro, you're a Pro Bowler. You just signed the extension. You. You on the last. You dropped two passes. You drop two. Yeah, you gotta have that. You're. You're supposed to be their best. Their best wide receiver. Yes. You can't. You can't. You can't have those drops. Ojo. In that situation.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

I mean, every. Everything's magnified, especially in the playoff. You know, you. You don't get as plays as you'd like, so the plays that you do get when the ball does come to you, they didn't go to court for a very long time during the game. He wasn't in rhythm. He had to catch. He's one of those that's not gonna. Not gonna complain. He's not gonna say anything. He's gonna run everything hard until the ball does come his way. So I. I kind of understand it, but he understands that. He knows you can't have those drops. Those drops could have been costly. Obviously, it didn't cost you this game, but listen, the Broncos won a game. We need to talk about Josh Allen.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, we need.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

We need to talk about Josh Allen.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Four, four, four, five.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He had four of the five turnovers.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Yeah. I mean, two interceptions, two fumbles.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What are you doing carrying the ball like that? Ocho, come on.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Come on, man. You. You know, he should know better than that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Take a knee and get your ass into the locker room.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Yeah, he's fast, but he's not that fast to not think pursuit is right there. To have the ball holding it like a loaf of goddamn bread, like. This was supposed to be the Bills here. I said it multiple times. Because he didn't have to deal with Pat Mahomes, his kryptonite. He didn't have to deal with Lamar Jackson. He didn't have to deal with Joe Burrow.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And he's the best quarterback. He was the best quarterback remaining on the afc. I get.

[Nav Green]

He.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He's out, but there's nobody. He's better than C.J. stroud. He's better than Drake May. He was the best remaining quarterback in the afc. And he gagged. Yeah. And I told you at the beginning of season. Buffalo, Y' all need to have some questions about Sean McDermott.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Whoa, wait, are we, we can't, we can't, we can't blame, we can't blame McDermott, we can't blame McDonman after that performance by us.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So what about those before? What about the previous six games when Josh Allen didn't have any turnovers and you still lost?

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Okay, talk to me now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, at least John Harbaugh, he got to a pro. He got to a Super bowl and won it. Mike Tomlin got the 21 1. I mean, we gotta have some conversation. It's just not good. Oh, Joe, you had the best quarterback. You were the only one that had an MVP quarterback. As a matter of fact, nobody else had an MVP quarterback in the postseason. You're the only one.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Hey, hey. He, he put up a stinker. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And I'm trying to figure out the way you running the football, why you got Josh Allen throwing the ball 39 times. James Cook got 24 carries for a buck 17. He's averaging basically four, five yards of carry. Josh Allen got averaging five and a half yards a carry and you throwing the ball.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

So. Yeah. So I got a question. We think you think it's time for a new voice over there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think they're gonna have a serious discussion. I, I think the Pagulas are going to have a serious discussion with themselves. They gotta ask themselves some, some questions because are you, are, I mean, think about it, Ocho. Are you closer? Are you closer? Remember you got to the AFC Championship game last year. They put all this technology in to make sure because oh, he got it. No, he didn't get it. Now they got this technology with everything removed. When they had removed the hedge from around you for you to go. Ain't no Pat Mahomes. You don't have to go to Kansas City. You don't have to deal with Burrow. You didn't have to deal with Lamar, although you beat Lamar. But those are guys that are, that are Lamar, the two time MVP Joe Burrow has gone to your building and beat you. He's going to Pat Mahomes building and beat him. He. Look, he was, you know, a couple of plays away from winning a Super Bowl. He's removed the guy that's going to five Super Bowls, one, three in an MVP league. Mvp. He, he's gone and a guy in his second year. What are we doing here?

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

The funny thing about it, if there was a year for Buffalo to make it to the super bowl, this yes, this was it. So I, I, I, I don't understand what happened in the game like today. You need Josh Allen to be what we, most of we call him. We give him that moniker as being Superman because he does less with more. I mean, he does more with less. This is the game. He put up a sneaker. There's if, ands, buts about it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How about this? Ocho bought Bills in the Postseason under Sean McDermott, lost the wild card game round to Houston, lost the championship in the championship game to kc, lost the divisional to kc, lost the divisional to Cincinnati, lost the divisional to kc, lost the championship to kc, lost the divisional to Denver.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

You think about some of those turnovers, huh? You think about, Well, who was that now anyway? You think about some of those turtles, though. I, the game changes because some of those are points.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, for sure.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Some, some of those are points. And it, it, it takes away your opportunity, your chances to win a game this magnitude where points that are premium every series counts, every time we have the ball, it counts. And the fact that they only lost by three with five turnovers let you know that they let the opportunity slip right between their fingers.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho, all you got to do is take a knee going at the half now, you kicking. Instead of tie the game to go in overtime, you kicking the game to win it.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Come on now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Sometimes you can be too confident, sometimes you can get greedy. They got greedy. We got Josh Allen. We got two timeouts. Let's see what we can do. He didn't protect the ball. Benito did a great job stripping him from behind. Then Benito did another job. He hit him in his back. He fumbled that ball. Denver should have put that game away early because that when Benito hit him in his back. They got the ball at the 19 yard line. You get two yards. I thought Sean called the game conservative at that point. No, I'm going for you. I'm going for your throat. Yeah, that's what I'm doing. I, I, I, I, that's, I, I gotta, I'm gonna end it. Can you imagine, O, if the score is instead of 20 to 10, the score is 24 or 27 to 10. Now we got a whole different ball game, ball game. But McMiller, that DB, 29, he made a play of the game. Yes, sir. Chad, I know y' all say that was a catch. He should have been down. Let me explain it to you. It's called the Calvin Johnson rule. If a receiver catches the football and he in turn goes to the ground, he must maintain possession of the football throughout the entirety of the act called catching the football. I don't know how. Let me explain it again. If a receiver catches the football and he goes to the ground, he must maintain possession of the football throughout the entirety of the catch. To make a long story short, and I made a long story. And I made a short story long, he goes to the ground, he need to get his ass up and hand the ball to the official ref.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, it's like it's called the Calvin Johnson rule. Yeah, yeah. Basically when he was playing Chicago, remember.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And that was a catch, it tried to get, it tried to get up.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

And obviously when I saw it most of the time, I, I call it somewhat of a bang bang play in a sense where you have to maintain possession of the play and through the play where, where possession is supposed to be maintained. McMillan away from you took the ball. He took the ball away from you. That was obvious.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That was the play of the game. Because they had the 20 yard line. They gonna kick a field goal and win it.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Yeah, exactly. So, I mean, it's tough. Then I, I hate. And I said this, I tweeted this as well. It's. With a game like this, as close as it was, I hate for the refs to be the one to, to be.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They're gonna be maligned, but it was the right. Ocho is the right call about the PI.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

The PI babies, wife.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, so it was PI. And they missed the other one earlier. Earlier.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We pulled it. Pulled his arm back.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They missed one. They were PIs. It wasn't like, man, I don't think that was a PI. It was an obvious PI. They missed one earlier and they, they let them play for the most part.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Hey, yeah, you know the fact, you heard what you just said, they let him play for the most part. But I would love some consistency. If you're gonna let them play early in the game, we can't let you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Be that agreed with it though, Ocho.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Yeah, it was egregious.

[Shannon Sharpe]

True.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Davis was a little, a little early. He would have looked back for the ball. He, he, he got beat off the line. When you get beat off the line of scrimmage and then you in hurry up mode trying to catch up, what's the first thing you do? If that receiver slows down, you gonna run right up. That's exactly what bo.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's supposed to be a walk off touchdown. But B didn't trust himself so he put it up there knowing Mims was Gonna have to slow down and know White was going to run up his back. That's a touchdown. That's a walk off touchdown. That's supposed to end the game. All he's supposed to do is let me run up.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Yeah, I just hate the fact, I know it was PI, but I hate the fact that it came down to the yellow flag. I hate, I hate that the, the end of the game and the game decision making ended up on the red flag. I mean, it was PI. I'm not, not saying it wasn't. I just hate that it ended the way it did. I, I, I, I, I do, I do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I, I could see Ocho, if it wasn't like, it was kind of like when you had the conversation. I first, yo, nightcap with the Eagles and KC Man. Man, you can't throw the flag. The man came and told you. Bradford the fourth said, I held him. I was beat. So the man telling you his, hell, even the official, when he explained it to the pool reporters, what we saw is the guy gets beat. He's pulling away. And the guy took. He, he bought the option away and he tugs it. Bradford came, he said, I did it. I was hoping they didn't see it in Philly fans still and everybody talking about, well, they shouldn't have called it the man Ocho. So if a man, I robbed that bank, I took that $15 million, man, he ain't do it. They shouldn't even arrest that man. He told you he did it and he got the money to show you. You saw the man grab juju Jersey, all he had. Like you said, they missed the first PI. That really should have been PI, and they didn't. I'm like, well, damn, are y' all not gonna call PI today? So Sean said, you know what? Let's dial it up again. Let's see. Either we gonna get a completion or we gonna force him to call it.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

One to the other. And especially, especially in that situation, that timing of the game. Once, once I saw. Once, Once I saw White get beat.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Off, that you ain't got no elo. He ain't got no help. He already know at all.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

I got to get on my horse. I got to get on my horse. And the funny thing about it is, what makes some of the greatest DBs in the NFL? In the NFL, when you're in a. In. In that. No. At a disadvantage, bad situation. Oh, there we go. When you had a disadvantage like that, when you get beat, can I still remain calm and collective when the ball is in the air and still be able to play the ball even though the man is in front. That's hard to do, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's even harder when you're in overtime. So just imagine that's in first quarter, second quarter, maybe there's a chance. Now it's first score. If the next score win, they had the ball. We've had the ball. They score, they win. So now it ain't like the fourth quarter, okay? We. Hey, our office get a chance, we can go. They can go down and redeem this. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And I. When I look, I was like, oh, he opened, and I saw him throw. I say, why would you throw the ball? Like, when you're not confident, Ocho, and you don't want to overshoot him.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You try to just get him the ball, knowing that he's gonna. Because I can see the ball, Ocho. I see the ball, the db not looking back because he's in such a hurry to catch up with me, he's just gonna run slack. Yeah. It's just like you. When you're not paying attention, you run slam in the back of somebody where if you paying attention, you don't run in the back of nobody. You feeling down with your phone, or you go to answer your phone and you go, try, bam. Oh, man. What happened? You ran dead in the back of somebody, Ocho. But it was. It was a man, Ocho. I think we. I think we got the record. 119.7 decibel. That's the lot. That. Hey, that. That place was crazy. Yes. Ash, check that. 119.7. I think we took that thing back from.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

From Seattle or Kansas City.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know. I think we got 119. Unless somebody got more than 119, it's ours now.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

I know, man. Kansas. Kansas City or K. Kansas City or Seattle might have higher than 119. I could. I could be wrong. But them two stadiums there, when it comes to that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

See how to get loud.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Well, you can't hit.

[Shannon Sharpe]

See, I was thinking about tracking stuff like that when it was in, like, the Kingdome or the Astrodome, when it's old. The House of Pain. That's what you call the Astrodome. Astrodome, the House of Pain or the Kingdome or some of these old. These old. But they didn't keep track of it back then. Here's Sean McDermott on that controversial call.

[Sean McDermott]

It's hard for me to. And I've had a chance to look at. It's hard for me to understand why it was ruled the way it was ruled. And if it is ruled that way, then why wasn't it slowed down? Just to make sure that we have this right. That would have made a lot of sense to me. To make sure that we have this thing right. Because that, that's a pivotal play in the game. We have the ball at the 20, maybe kicking a game winning field goal right there. So I'll just leave it at that. But I'm doing, I'm saying it because I'm standing up for Buffalo, damn it. I'm standing up for us. Because what went on is not. That is not how it should go down in my estimation, that play. These guys spent three hours out there playing football, pouring their guts out to not even say, hey, let's just slow this thing down. That's why I'm bothered. In my eyes it was. Yes, in my eyes it was.

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This show contains information subject to but not limited to personal takes, rumors not so accurate stats, and plenty more. What's up, man? This your boy Nav Green from the Broken Play podcast. Look, it's the end of the season. The playoffs are here. But guess what? It ain't the end of your season. You can always tune in with Broken Play podcast with Nav Green on the Black Effect podcast network. Another team who ain't going to the playoff. The Chiefs.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What's a wrap?

[Nav Green]

It's time to rebuild. Who your MVP right now then Drake.

[Shannon Sharpe]

May up there, Josh Allen up there still. Oh, my boy Matthew Stafford. Where did Bo Nicks at? He ain't too far behind. He did all this stuff talking. What Matthew Stafford is doing statistically, bro, is crazy.

[Nav Green]

Bro, you know I ain't no Josh Allen fan, but Matthew Stafford got better weapon. Caleb Williams.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, he should be in that conversation. In what conversation?

[Nav Green]

He should be in it. Listen to Broken Play with Nav Green from the Black Effect podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Now, which play is talking about?

[Shannon Sharpe]

The interception to play the cooks. In which McMillan took it out of his hands.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Hey, listen, Mr. McDermott has been around the game of football for a very long time. Ms. D understands the rules. When it comes to the game of football, even watching from the sideline, you had a, you, you had a field side. You have an eye, you have an eye view of what's going on. You know, that's interception. I'm, I'm a receiver even. I understand that. You have to have position to catch and maintain it and get up with cuz he went.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If he doesn't go to the ground, it's a catch. But once you go to the ground, oo you must maintain. If the D. Bryant. I dance. Bryant is the there who There it is.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Green Bay game went to the ground.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They no the moment you go to the ground. So let that chat. If you can't, if you. Hey, I don't know what y' all rules are in the turkey league or your flag football league, but if you catch a football and you go to the ground, you gotta maintain possession of the football throughout the act of the catch. And buffalo. It's hard. But you know, McMillan, as he was going down, McMillan was pulling the ball. That's why he come up with it.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Yeah, hey, that's, that's, that's a bang bang play is, you know, going to the ground. I mean, the receiver, you want to do the best you can to grab that thing and have strong hands. But obviously you, you out, you out here, you out here with it. So it's hard to bring that in. And because you out here and you, you exposed, you don't have much strength because it's not close to your body.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And because when he turned, made the stronger man. When you turn Ocho, you bring the DB into play. Now. Yeah, now he got, now he can do this. And his momentum is carrying him over. So he gonna pull it out.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Yeah, every time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But think about it, he pulled it out and held onto it. A lot of times we see it pull out and it's incomplete. Yeah, but the hair, the play before. See, if Cooks was a hands catcher, he'd caught that one on the sideline, remember? He jumped up and caught it with his body. He got his foot down and then he tried to brace himself and his hand touched down out of bounds. Yeah, he caught it with his hands. He got both feet down and bound. You have to understand where you are on the field. But I thought, look, if I'm Buffalo, I'm definitely bringing Cooks back because I think, I think he played I thought he played really well. I mean, he. Oh, so he just got there like two days ago?

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Yeah, he ain't been that long. He ain't been that long. But even if you don't bring Cooks back, you think about some of the options, some of the options that you have, you know, there might be a shake up. There might be a shake up with someone that's down there in Philly who might, might, might be a viable option to come in as your number one. Who, who would, who would be tremendous to have a Josh Allen, to have a. What I like to consider a true number one. I chat. Y' all know exactly where I'm going with this. You never know what can happen. Regardless of people talk about cap hits and all that. I'm not sure if y' all been following the game of the game of football long enough. NFL teams don't care nothing about no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cap hits to make it work.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

NFL team don't care nothing about no cap hits or how high it is. They don't care nothing like that. Especially when situations have deteriorated as much as they have this year over there with some of the issues that they had. So I think they're probably going to move on from one of the best in the game and there's a good chance he might end up in Buffalo.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho pool report reasoning question what did you see on the past of Brandon Cooks that was ruled an interception by Jaquan McMillan? Carl Shepherds who the other referee. The receiver has to complete the process of the catch. He's going to the ground as part of the process. The catch. He lost possession of the ball when he hit the ground. The defender gained possession of it. At that point. The defender is the one that completed the process of the catch. So the defender was awarded the ball. Question did the ball hit the ground? No. That was confirmed in the replay process. The interception was confirmed. Now he is an official now. I just told you the rule. I told you the rule. I tweeted somebody, I said this is what has to happen. When you go chat is the last time Oho and I we gonna explain it to you. Oo is a receiver. I'm the db. Ocho jumps up and catches the ball. If he stays on his feet, we good. But if Ocho goes to the ground and in the process of going to the ground, we hit the ground simultaneous and he loses possession and I come up with the ball, it's my ball. I completed the process, not Ocho. Ocho started the process. I appreciate him for doing that. I Completed the process. That's my ball. Right.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Also, chat with this hypothetical scenario that UNC just created. If he was a DB and I was a receiver, I would have scored a touchdown. That would have been a joke.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't let you out. I ain't let you out, Ocho. And they know this. In overtime, everything is replayed. Also.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because they didn't want people challenging it. Touchdown. Somebody had to burn a challenge flag because they thought it was a touchdown or that was a fumble or that was this. They say, you know what? We're gonna let you save your challenges. The mere fact. Change of possession, they. They. They replay it. I don't know why Sean McDermott burned the timeout. They replayed it. It was a turnover. All scoring and change of possession plays are automatically reviewed.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Yeah, yeah. And then, and then, and then to know the rules as a head coach, you have to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Excuse me.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

You gotta fight for your team. You gotta stick up for your team. But, like, come on now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You. You know that once Brandon Cook goes to the ground, he was maintained possession. If he'd have maintained possession, what that would have been Ocho. Mac Miller wouldn't have had the ball in your possession. And then I got it in my possession.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Right. And then, you know, some people aren't even gonna listen. No, some people aren't going to listen. You know, know, the people are that are not going to listen. The people that Buffalo failed.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Shadow, you just said that. You just said that because your team won. No, I'm saying that because that's the rules. I just happen to know the rules. I mean. Yeah, I mean, I wish. Look, I. And I. I get it. And, and in situations Ocho and I talked. Talk about. Talk. Talked about a little earlier is that PIs are really hard, but they become excruciatingly hard the later you get into the game because you feel like that might have influenced or have some impact on the game.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Yeah, I hate that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But ask yourself, Buffalo fans, if the guy had. Did Shakira like that, would you have wanted that play call, yes or no. Yeah. How about your quarterback hold on to the football? How about your quarterback not try to throw down the scene and. And read the backside safety, Right. Josh Allen. I mean, for the mere fact that you was even in the game, y' all should. I mean, you play probably any other team, you. You losing. You. You're in a situation like. You're in a situation like San Fran in Seattle.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Game over. Game over.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Four, four, five.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

You realize.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, five.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Excuse me. You do realize the goddamn Seahawks capitalize off every last and every last.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, and the thing this game was about, boy, this game was about to get out of hand. It was 7:3. Denver didn't do anything. They got the ball back, and they're going right back down the field. And Singleton put a hit on James Cook.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Yeah, take it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, he. And picked him up off his feet. Huff was right there. Johnny on the spot, and they go right back down the field and they get a touchdown. But this thing was about. I was like, oh, it's about to be 14 3. There are no inconsequential plays come post season. Every play matters. Every play matters, and people don't. Well, it ain't no one play because it's only. It's like four or five plays that actually determine the outcome of the game. Every time it's four or five plays, you can go back and look in the postseason is because every play is ex. It's. It's very, very important. You just track it back. We make this. We do this. But that was an interception. They reviewed it. I don't know. He talked about, well, they should have took a little bit more time. How much time you want them to take? It does. It don't. It don't change the Ocho. If they took. You know what, they just came back from the review. It was an interception. It don't matter how long it takes. It doesn't change the outcome.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

No. And some people. I'm. I'm reading the chat as we sitting here talking. Some people still. Still not listening. He hit the ground with the ball.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, like he did, but he. So let me ask you a question. If the ball. Let me ask you a question. He catches the football. He hits the ground and the ball pops out. Is that a catch? Why isn't the catch. He hit the ground with the ball. I can't read the chat, but Ocho's saying. He's reading the chat. He said he hit the ground with the ball. So if he hits the ground with the ball and the ball pops out, what is that?

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Incomplete.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. Go to the ground. As the receiver, you must maintain possession of the football. He goes to the ground. He didn't maintain possession. You know why? Because McMillan took it from him. Yeah, McMillan.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Simple as that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And Carl Chapters told you it was the DB that completed the process of going to the ground and coming up with the football.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The difference is McMillan was down by contact because Cook had touched it. If not, he could have got up and ran.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Yeah, I Mean it. This. And this sucks.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's like you get your girl pregnant, and she wait. She wait three or four weeks to tell you. Why didn't you tell me? It wasn't gonna change anything. I'm still pregnant. So if I'd have told you in March instead of telling you April, what would that have changed? I'm still pregnant. So if they take 30 minutes, they take 45 minutes, they take an hour to review, that call is still an interception, is still the Broncos ball.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

No matter what.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know, but no matter what, I get it. I get it. This was supposed to be your year. Because all the stumbling blocks, all the things that have stopped you in previous years removed, mainly Joe Burrow and Patrick Mahomes, those two have been removed. And now you let a second quarterback come in. And that's why I'm a firm believer in letting. Letting a coach pick his quarterback. Sean didn't want Russ. I don't believe he had to belittle Russ like he did in Detroit. And so. Hold on. I was talking about. All right. Not to get off track. Oh, y', all. They was. We was talking about A.J. brown. They talk about A.J. brown. Too big of a cap hit dead money. I said, is he more or less than what Russell Wilson was on the cap? I mean, if he ain't 85 million.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

I, I, I don't think people understand how this business works. I, I don't think they do, because the first thing they do is they. And they, NFL teams do not care about that dead cat. They don't. When things have deteriorated, the relationships, the distractions, as. As they so call them, when it gets to the point to where it is now, there's no going back. Yeah, there's no. There's no going back. And obviously, it's the Eagles fans. Listen, I. You, you love A.J. you love. You. You love what he stands for. You love what he's done for the organization. But, hey, it's tough, man. It's tough. He's not. He's not happy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. And the report that he had requested a trade, I don't know if that's true. Some reports could be erroneous. And some can be. Have some. There might be a little truth in it. There's a little truth even in a lot.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Oh, wait. It depends who it came from. Depends where the rumor came from. And if it, if it's anonymous and someone that is somewhat of a credible source says it. It's coming from somewhere.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, it's coming from somewhere. They reviewed it. Oh, man. The NFL record decimal level is Arrowhead Stadium. Fans reach 142.2. Wow.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

I told you. I knew.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I knew way off.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

It was either Kansas City or it was Seattle. It was one or the other.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That thing was, like, loud. So that's. That's 23 show.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Yeah. Yeah. You.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You. I mean.

[Nav Green]

Oh, you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh. Oh. Kansas City and Denver is the two loudest stadiums I ever played in.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And it just so happened. Denver was my home in Kansas City. We played. You know, we played there every year. Played it every year for 12 years. So I got 12 trips to. Well, I got 13 because we played them in the playoffs one year. Yeah. I only.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

I only had one trip. And that one trip there, I was like, I ain't never, never experienced like this. And I'm. I'm like. I'm curious. All fans, they sit in the stadium, they all scream, they all cheer, they all boo, whatever it may be. And I'm thinking, well, maybe it's the way the stadium is built. Why is it that this stadium in particular sounds so much different than everyone else?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, it's. I mean, it's. It's. I mean, when it's so loud and I got to. Right. And you sitting right next to me and you can't. You can't. I can't hear what you say unless I.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Yes. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's when you know it's loud. This. It was. It was crazy, but I'm glad. Carl Shepherds and normally the referee meet with pool reporters and they ask any controversial call or what this. X, Y and Z. And he explained it to him. Possession of the football receiver goes to the ground. He must maintain possession of the football throughout the entirety of the act of catching the football ball. He did not, and y' all know it. So hopefully. OO and I explained that to you guys really, really well because I don't really know what else to say. Oh. Oo. Obviously, emotions were extremely high in the Bills locker room after the game. Here's Josh Allen and Dion Dawkins after the game.

[Josh Allen]

But just get here again and have this happen.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's extremely difficult. Feel like I. Yeah.

[Josh Allen]

Feel like I let my.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let my teammates down tonight.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

He said he feels like he let you guys down. How do you react when your quarterback, who's done so much for you, says that to you guys?

[Shannon Sharpe]

He let us down.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Thanks, Tim.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Tough.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

And I. I love that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I love that emotion. Huh? Because you know why I love it?

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because I know how much they invested into him. This is the kind of emotion that when you invest into it, your relationship is ending after 5, 10, 15 years.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

That's. That hurt, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Your child is. After everything that you've done and you've invested so much, and they. They get sidetracked temporarily. That thing hurts. Yeah, I've been there, Josh. I've been there. Dion, bro, don't let nobody. All big grown ass, man, if I. Because everybody gonna say, man, if I'm making 40, 30, 40, I don't care.

[Sean McDermott]

Let's see.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

The funny thing about it is people can't see past the money. People has the money, but they don't understand all the work that you put in to be able to make that kind of money.

[Shannon Sharpe]

A lot of sacrifice.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Training camp all season Program hours and hours and countless hours of practice in film and studying, rehab. They don't understand everything that goes. People, fans of the game, they get to see the finished product, go out there on Sundays. They don't understand the work you got to put in before Sunday gets down.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do you know?

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

That's why? That's what it is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Think about how long it took them to get there.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, from the time a lot of these guys been playing football, from the time they were 7, 8, 9 years old, this is a lifetime of devotion. This is a lifetime of dedication. And I'm so close. I can see it. I'm so close. I can see it, Ocho. And every single year, this is. And it doesn't get easier. I want you to know disappointment does not get easier. It doesn't. Even if you've had disappointment one year after the next, it doesn't get easier. It doesn't. As a matter of fact, it gets harder. Because as it. As you suffer these disappointment, as the years go by, you realize I got less years to do this.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Oh, yeah. Oh, that. Hey, that window of opportunity is small. That window of opportunity in the NFL in general is small. And then you have to maximize your opportunities to make the playoffs or be able to make that run at getting a Lombardi. You were afforded opportunities for a while in your career.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I was very fortunate. I won three and four years.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Hey, imagine being on my end.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I don't know. Huh.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

You know, going. Going into each season hoping, at least just hoping to have a winning season. You got me thinking about no Lombardi. I'm trying. Can we. Can we have a winning season first?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, let's win. Let's get to the playoffs, and then maybe I can shift my focus. Cause right now, I can't really see past that. I Can't see that far down the road, Ocho. It's dark, and I ain't got no headlights on. Yeah.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Hey, but the raw.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like I said, Chad, and just. I'm not. Just. Let's, like, remove yourself if you've never been an athlete. Or. Or.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Or.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I'm saying, just imagine the thing that you poured the most into, the thing that you sacrificed the most, and it didn't go your way. Maybe you didn't get the job. Maybe you didn't get into the school that you wanted. Maybe you didn't get the grades that you wanted. Maybe you didn't get the promotion that you wanted.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

You know what the funny thing about it is? Is everybody can be able to have a sense of how Dion Dawkins is feeling or how Josh Allen is feeling, simply because maybe if you didn't play sports, hell, it could be a relationship. You think about the years and the time you spent, you know, investing in something and not getting that return on it, and then it ending, and you're sitting there wondering, like, well, God damn, where did everything go wrong?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What did I do? What could I have done differently?

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Better? Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, because that's. That's the thing. It's the. It's the lifetime of regret that you look back at. Like, what? Because nobody's gonna. Nobody remembers all the great Superman, the Herculean play that Josh Allen's made. No, all they remember the man. I remember him. In the divisional round, he turned the ball over four times. He had gone six games. He had to turn the ball over 16 total touchdowns, zero turnovers. And then today, he had four. They had five turnovers. And for that, you have five turnovers and still had to take a field goal in overtime to beat you. Let you know you're. You're close. But close only matters if you're throwing grenades and you're slow dancing and if there's a chaperone there, you're not gonna be able to get that close.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

I like that. I ain't never heard that one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's tough, man. I know how Josh been feeling. Good boy, I felt the same way when we lost to Jacksonville. That. Exactly. Exactly. And I held it together when I was on camera, but when I got in that car.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

You let it out, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

As a matter of fact, my girl, she ain't even ride home with me. I said ride home with your mom. Damn. Because I don't know. I already know. I. Together. No.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Yeah. You.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You won't.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

You a want to see you vulnerable, huh? It's hey, it's okay to cry.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know it is because I already know because I had put so much blame on me. I had dropped the two point conversion. I had dropped the crucial third down. I had put so much on me. Yeah. I couldn't let her see me break down because I know I was gonna break down.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

It's okay to be vulnerable, huh? See, I'd be. I'd be crying on the show live in front of everybody. I don't be care.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's. Yeah, I'm just like. And plus, I just want. I just wanted to talk. I just wanted to talk to my brother. I just needed to hear his voice because he's that. He's that soothing, he's that calm that let me know it's okay.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And that's. That's. That's what I got. So what Josh is feeling, what Dion Ding is feeling, I felt the same thing. I was just able to keep it. I was just able to hold it together on camera. But trust me, when I got in that car.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Yeah. Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh?

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

I'm sorry. I'm sorry about that, man. That mean you play shitty, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. I caught a touchdown, Ocho. I'm feeling good, Ocho. Caught, put in motion. Went. Went down.

[Nav Green]

Ah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I was like, you know what? I put a move on the mo. They put me in motion.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Got up the sleeve.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Caught like a 20, 20 something yard, 27 yard touchdown. We were hyped. Go back down the field. Scored again. Two point because we kicked two field goals. Then we got a touchdown. And Mike said, we got to go. We're going for two. Going for two.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, man, I still.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Damn, uncle, you dropped it. Are you sorry, man?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's exactly.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Sorry.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Remember what I say. The mind replays what the heart can't delete. I was heartbroken.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Come on now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I replayed that over and over. I mean. I mean, think about it. I mean, I won three Super Bowls. I was a multiple time pro, all pro, pro bowl player. I'm in the Pro Football hall of Fame. Every state that I've ever lived in, I'm in that. I'm in the Sports hall of Fame. I'm in the Division 2 Hall of Fame in a black college hall of Fame. That play. Damn, that play. I still think about it.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Hey, don't worry about it now, boy. That was a long time ago.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It is. I mean, sometimes I find myself. I mean, you know, I just be. I find myself just thinking like, damn, what if? But then I flip side to what Shannon, that was the catalyst for you guys to get. Go. Get back to back. But then I started talking to Burns. I started. Man, man, we. You know, we should have three pedal. Then all of a sudden, all those emotions that I felt so many, many years ago start coming back.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Ain't back. Dang.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I. And that. That's. I think that's one of my problems because I try to be. I try to be a perfectionist. I try. I try to do every single thing right.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And I try to do. I try to take every step to make sure it's right. And when. And when it's not.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Boy, it hurts. You gotta understand. But you're human, man. You human. As much as we want. Yeah. As much as we want to be perfect in all that we do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. My sister tell me that all the time. Yeah.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Human error is inevitable. No matter how much we try to perfect our craft or perfect the way we walk, you know, in the steps of the big man upstairs, man, we. We all backslide at some point. We all fall short at.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So. And then the thing is, I go to. I go to Baltimore and I'm known as the Jaguar Killer. Two game winning. Tough times against them jokers. Set up another game with a key field goal.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Yeah. I was like, okay, okay, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Hey, hey, hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Yeah. I declawed him. Give it a claw. You can't do nothing. Who would have claws out? I declawed him. Let me stop for. You know, Peter be talking all crazy reckless. They got mad at Kim Kardashian because she went and bought some dogs and didn't go to the pound. Oo. Yeah. We're gonna put this loss on Josh.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh?

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

We. We put it on every other quarterback when they lose. This is on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We gave up a ton of credit last week against Jags. Did wo. Hey. Game a lot.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Game a lot. Game a lot. The onus on that win was Josh Allen. So the onus on this loss is on Josh. Oh, he played like doodle. What? He played like doodle. I ain't talking about any kind of doodoo. I'm talking about like diarrhea. Like slippery. Yeah. Like. Like, like messy. Like that. From 17. What? You know, and I'm. I'm.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, I'm not.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

I'm not one to really criticize, but I've gotten better at being able to express myself when someone doesn up the par based on standard of being a MVP caliber quarterback and not having to deal with your nemesis.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, he ain't no MVP caliber quarterback. He an mvp. He got it. He got the award last year, remember?

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Right, Right. Yeah. Hey, bro. Hey, you know who Mr. Hanky is? You don't watch South Park.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, no. Yeah.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Well, Josh Allen played like Mr. Hanky tonight. I let. I let Ash or Jordan tell you who Mr. Hanky is, but he play like Mr. Hanky tonight, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

For the most part. If it ain't. If we're not critiquing a movie for a Netflix or a. A movie house. If it ain't sports, Someday I go, if sports, like if we got lessons to say we are we gonna be off Tuesday, Wednesday. If the Lakers not playing, my team don't even come on. I go days without even TV even coming on. If I. And like I said, if we're not gonna. If I ain't gotta watch to talk about it on Nightcap. TV ain't coming on. Yeah, I gotta get. I have to give my break. Because I mean, bro, I go. I mean, I'm all in. Yeah. I mean, I make it look easy because I enjoy what I do. I love what I do. This is my passion. I'm passionate. God has blessed me with tremendous recall. He's blessed me with the ability to express myself and, and, and have a way with words. And I can make people laugh. I can be serious when I need to be. But sometimes you just have to turn your mind off, Ojo. And it's hard. I can turn my mind off and not watch tv. But then I'm like, try to go to bed. And I just sit there two, three hours at a time. I mean, sometimes I go to bed like afternoon at the nightcap. I look at my watches like two o' clock in the morning, knowing I got to get up at 6:30, because Titus go bark one time, right?

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

I mean, it's time to go lay here.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And then he barked two times. And then I said, well, I gotta get up cuz he gonna wake the little ones up. So. Josh, I. Bro, I feel you. Now don't think, don't think that I ain't gonna put all the blame, a lot of this blame on you. I empathize with you now. I do. You and Dick dog.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But just know.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

You don't play they like some stir fry.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ojo, did you see the flag plant before the game? The flag plant?

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Hey man, I seen that jacket you had on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Forget the flag plant.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Hey, but that jacket, well, I don't know where you got that from, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That jacket, 27 years old. That jacket, 27 years old.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay. That thing was nice. Hey, that's the first thing I saw. I saw the video when you got.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Out of the truck. I'm like, what? That is? You know Jeff Hamilton actually, he gonna make us some nightcap jackets.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

For real. Oh, man. Hey, that's. I need a law. Hey, you know, when we go to Santa Clara now, you know it's gonna be cold up there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Be able to turn it around that quick. It's like, it's like a two month. Yeah, cuz these are handmade.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, okay, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, let me see my I a See, I was talking to Ultra. I didn't see the flag. Clint, run it back.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Yeah, run that, run that thing back. Run that thing back.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, Okay, yeah.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Look, little flag playing. Okay, yeah, I see.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You should have had me out there on the field, let me play that thing.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

No, what you should have done is you should have rode the horse at the goddamn tunnel. I told you, man. Hey, you got to make a statement, man. When you get opportunity to go back to the stadium, you don't go too often. You got to come in there with some style.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I made a one time when I scout eyed in the statement. That was the last statement I was making in Mile High. Other than that, I'm getting my ass out of vehicle. Hold on, you skydived in the Mile High? When was that? 2009.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Well, you a dead devil.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I used to do something.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Hey, so that mean you won't have no problem getting on the back of.

[Shannon Sharpe]

One of them bowls with your boy, huh? Not with these hips. Oh, no, man, I. You weren't. Oh, I. You wasn't here, Ocho, man, my knees still hurt from bowling. I. I almost pulled my glute. That's why I started throwing the ball like that because I couldn't get into the slide. Bamboo glute. Bam. Don't laugh, Ocho, man. My glued on fire, man. Hold on.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Speaking of, you told the chat how I whooped you?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nobody. We, we holding up on that because the tape, man. But you know, but you know who bragging though? I just want you to know who bragging. Oh, yeah.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Hey, he talking, he talking, he talking. Okay, okay. See? Okay, I got. I got something.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, oh, yeah, I got some. Oh, I definitely. We. I, I definitely got to get Joe. He already know it. Brazil.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Hey, hey, Unc, man, listen, I don't know how to explain it. Hey, Chat, I don't, I don't. You don't really watch soccer like that. But I had the opportunity, man. I had the opportunity to meet Brazilian Ronaldo, who is arguably the greatest complete. No Ronaldo. You know me. I know Ronaldinho like this. We were cool. But I never had the opportunity to meet Ronaldo. The Brazilian Ronaldo, one who won the World Cup.

[Shannon Sharpe]

2004.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

Dog. I forgot. I think it was 2004. I felt like a little kid. I felt like a little Kuya. I. I don't think.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

I. It's hard to explain meeting someone of that magnitude that, that you have been a fan of for years and you always watch videos, you watch highlights. You was able to see him when you're in high school, watching play, knowing how great he was and finally being able to be right there up close, in person, in person with him and talk and he is. English was okay. And it was like, I'm not calling him a God. I'm not. I'm not calling him a God. It's like, like God, like, like to see him walk into that stadium and see all the Brazilian fans thought they went crazy. They went crazy, you know. And people in the chat, unless you understand soccer, it'd be hard for you to understand that feeling I had. And then I met Neymar. Neymar as well. My first time meeting Neymar. First I'd have met everybody else. And this is my first time meeting Neymar. And to meet both of them at the same time within a 10 minute span. I tweeted, I know what it felt like to get drafted by the Bengals. I know what it felt like to get that phone call. And today, the butterflies, the nervousness of meetings, players of that magnitude, it. It almost trumps that feeling of draft day getting that phone call from Mike Brown. Like Dal. Like I'm. To my unbelievable. I don't know who is someone that you enjoy watching them in their respective craft. And if you ever had the opportunity to meet him, it's like, wow, I can't believe I told you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The only man I ever felt like he was levitating was Michael Jordan. Everybody tell the same story.

[Uncle Chad Johnson (Chad 'Oo Cinco' Johnson)]

You know that. You know that feeling? You know that feeling when you met Mike? Bingo. Same thing, same thing. And to meet two of two legends at the same time, I thought it was unbelievable. And you know, it's funny, I had on this jersey, the jersey I have on right now. Grimio is a team here in Brazil where Ronaldinho played when he was younger. And they made me take the jersey off at the stadium I was at. Because the stadium I was at is where Palmeira's plays and it was the rival. So they, it was, it was somewhat of a disrespect, in a sense, made me take my jersey off and had to put something else on. But outside of that, people here in Brazil, dog pure class, showed love. It was awesome. I played here in the Kings league, a little 7 7B7 league. It was awesome. I. I believe I can't say anything now, but I was able to sit down with some, some good folks. And for those that are in the chat that enjoy the game of soccer, I have something very special for y' all coming up for World cup that you're gonna love. If you, if you love the beautiful game, you're gonna like it. You're gonna like it.

[Nav Green]

This show contains information subject to but not limited to personal takes, rumors, not so accurate stats, and plenty more. What's up, man? It's your boy, Nav Green from the Broken Play Podcast. Look, it's the end of the season. The playoffs are here. Guess what? It ain't the end of your season. You can always tune in with Broken Play podcast with Nav Green on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Not a team who ain't going to the playoffs.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The Chief.

[Nav Green]

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