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Nightcap Hour 1: Seahawks STUN Rams in COMEBACK WIN + Franchise TAG for George Pickens? + Shannon WARNS Jaxson Dart of SHORT CAREER
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Chad Ochocinco
All.
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Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite unc, my partner and co host, Liberty City's own Bingo's Ring of fame honoree. A former Pro Bowler and an All Pro, he's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure you guys hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. We would like to thank each and every one of you for your support and your continued support because it's nice like this. We didn't come on at our scheduled time, but hey, sometimes the game doesn't allow us to come on at our scheduled time. And here you are in the chat waiting to hear what Ocho and I have to say about this game and a lot of other topics. So thank you for your support and your continued support. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shea by Laportier and you cannot find an estate or city near you. Head to laportierconac.com and order your a bottle or two. We have the 750 and now we have the 375. Same, same quality, same great taste. Taste, same smoothness. Please drink responsible and stay safe. Go follow my media company page on all of its platforms. That's Shay Shay Media and my clothing company, 84. With 84 being spelled out, that link is pinned in the chat again. Oo wow wow wow wow. Seahawks take down the Rams. And if somebody would have told me that after giving up what they gave up. Hold on, let me pull something up right quick. Ojo, they gave up over 500 yards of offense. The posing team did not turn the ball over and and you still won the game. They possessed the ball 14 minutes more than what you had it 581 to 415, zero turnovers and you still lose the game. Yeah, but give the ramp. Give the Seahawks credit. They were down by 16. But I thought the turning point of the ball game OO was Rasheed, that punt return. Because they had. They were just floundering on offense. He gave him that spark. The Rams go three and out. The next thing you know, we got a tie ball game. They go for two and they get it. They smart. That's why they always tell you oo play to the play to the whistle. Nobody j. Said, well, I just go pick the ball up. Hey, hand it to the officials. Two points. The wildest two point play that I've seen in a very, very long time. But the rank. But the Seahawks win. They're 12 and three have the inside track for the number one seed in the AFC. Excuse me, in the NFC. And remember, in years past, there were two buys. There's only one now. So only one team gets to buy. The number two seed has to play the opening weekend. And so that's where we are right now. But Ocho, this was an outstanding game. Matthew Stafford was dealing. Puka. Nakua was dealing. And I had told. I told Seahawks, I said, look, y' all would be wise to double Puka. Cause if he singled up, he gave Spoon all he wanted. He gave Joe all he wanted. If they didn't double him, that ball was coming. And you see how he plays through contact. This is what Ocho and I is talking about. When you play through contact, you look how he plays through contact. They pressing. He's moving him out the way. Like, get out my way. And when he catches the ball, if you think he's just going to go down just because you're there, he's not. He plays through contact. He's a very, very physical receiver. He. And he's great after the catch. Oo how was Seattle able to win this game?
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Chad Ochocinco
I mean, they. Listen, they were able to win this game. In the fourth quarter, there were five possessions with the Rams. Unk. They went punt, pun punt. And then they had three. Three. They had two. Two drives after that stall. They stalled. They really rattled. Goddamn Sam Donald. Really. All goddamn game. The two interceptions, obviously, the two interceptions. The zone. I think it might have been robber. They. They showed, man. They showed, man. In. In number two decided not to go with the slant. And he just stayed.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
They tried to run the clear. Yeah, McCullough, he.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. And. And then the zone with the D tack dropped out. Yeah. Which. Yeah, the D tackle popped out. That was another interception. But it was Those five. Those five in concession, those five stall drives that gave. That gave the Seahawks a chance to come back. And then the pump returned, the pump return from Rashid Shahid that kind of almost sealed a deal, got them back in momentum and the momentum shift in the favor of the Seahawks.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
And even Ocho, even with those possessions when they were going out, it wasn't like the Seahawks was doing anything with it. It wasn't until that punt return that sparked their team, the defense got. Because remember, Ocho, they were going up and down the field, up and down the field. They got stuff. Look, this game should have been over. Matthew Stafford missed Puka Nakua on a double move early in the game. I mean. I mean, he missed him.
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Chad Ochocinco
He did.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
So they should. They should have had probably 21 points in the first quarter. And that's what happens when you leave and you don't think about it, don't you? Like, oh, we. Well, we did get kick and field goal gets you beat. And this is a prime example. And so they cash those in early. Guess what? They had another touchdown. Ocho. Remember, they had an illegible man downfield, took a touchdown off the board.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
So all those. You don't, you know, you at that point in time, you're like, okay, we go get it back. But that's seven points. That's an extra four points that you left on the field. Now you make them. Now you make them really have to play a different type of a ball game because when you up, when you up six, nothing or you up, you know, 13, seven, that's nothing. Because the touchdowning, Rick, they got a touchdown and guess what? They're in the lead now. But I. You have to give the Seahawks credit because it was easily. They're down 16 points at home and the Rams are absolutely kicking their ass. And they just kept. Kept fighting, kept plugging away. They had some drop by boy, Colby, man, he had some key. He had some huge drops. Ocho has some huge drops. But, ma', am, what can you say about Puka? But I thought the Dealers played well. I thought Mumford played well. I thought Xavier Smith played well. I thought the guys filling in for Devonte, I thought they played well. They ran the ball 39 carries for a buck 24. Matthew Stafford was not sacked. He didn't turn the ball over. I mean, he played well. He played unbelievable.
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Chad Ochocinco
He's the mvp.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
I know their loss. He's the mvp, Ocho. And I know you look. Yeah, absolutely, your guy in Buffalo, he's gonna get some consideration because when he's on national television, he puts together these herculean efforts. We saw him against the Patriots. We saw. I forget what game it was Ocho, where he had those six touchdowns, three passing, three rushes. And we saw him opening when he played the Baltimore Ravens on opening night, and they're down 15.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yes.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
And he brings them all the way back. So he's had some really, really big games on national television. So everybody can see him. But Matthew Stafford, with 40 touchdowns and five interceptions. Yeah, he's the MVP.
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Chad Ochocinco
Hey, hey, he's that. Those are Aaron Rodgers numbers in his prime at Green Bay. Those are the type of numbers he's putting up this, this, this season. And the thing about it, Matthew Stafford, I don't know how long he's going to continue to play, but from now on, he need to make sure he missed every training camp. He need to make. He need to miss every training camp with a back problem. If this is the type of production he's going to give you in season. Collectively, as a wide receiving core, the Ram played extremely well. Pukinakua. They kind of held Puka Nakua in check in the first half, huh? Yeah, they held him. They held him in check in the first half. I'm not sure what the hell Sean McVeigh decided to do in the second half, but Young Bull exploded.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Now he was cooking in the first quarter, and then he only had one target in the second quarter. So I don't, I don't know if they started doubling him or what, what happened, but they went away from him. But the moment they went back to him, he started cooking all over again. It wasn't until they started doubling him that Matthew Stafford started going to Smith and Mumford, Mumford Field. That's when all of a sudden Doug came involved. But every time they singled him, he kicked everybody's ass.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, every, Every. Every time. You know, I, I love the creativity that Sean McVeigh has with him. You know, understanding that he's a little different. He's 62, about 215, 216. So they, they. They put him in different positions. They, they put him in the slot, they put him in motion. They, they. They line him up in to bring him out. They line him out to bring him in and a lot of creativity to allow him to get off his spot and then sometimes get, get in an advantage where he's not. Not having to deal with bump and run and having to fight through contact. But he's, he's so strong. He really doesn't have, he doesn't he.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Doesn'T have, he can high point the ball. He's great in traffic. He's tremendous after the catch. He can play through, he can play through. Contact is what you need to have. Because when people get physicals, some people shy away from physicality. That's not, that's really not your play with him. But Ocho, Sam Darnold, I mean we, I, I thought, because I'm looking at him and I've said, okay, when you're down 16, you're playing free and all of a sudden you come back. Now, all of a sudden the moment, See now all of a sudden it means something. And now you go three and out. When you got a chance to win the game in regulation, they missed the Rams, missed a field goal. But 22 and 34, 272 touchdowns. The old Sam Bradford, he would have folded. Ocho. Yeah, he would have voted Sam Darnold, the old Sam Darnold would have folded under these circumstances because like you said, the guy, he didn't run with the run through, he pretended like he was going to grow and he picked him up. It's the same play that Alfred picked off Tom Brady in the Super Bowl. They run the double slant and he's supposed to go with the first with number one.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
He comes back and Brady hits him in the chest. That's the exact same play. You're thinking, what Every time we run this formation, they always run, he always run with however you label it, inside outside, 1, 2 or 1, 2.
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Chad Ochocinco
Right.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
However you do it, they normally run with him and say, you know what? And hey, he faked like he was going to run, you know, and he hit him right in the chest.
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Chad Ochocinco
You know, I, I, I, I wonder, I wonder what that's called with number two. Just, he just lets the number two go on a slant and he stays there and the Mike backer picks it up and, and it's there is, is, is there for an interception every single time because the quarterback not gonna see.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
That because they barely throw it to the inside guy. Unless that's a puka. Cool. Unless that's a, a Cooper cup when he was in his prime. They rarely throw it to the, to. How are you labeling it? Some people label it inside out, some people able inside in. You know what I'm saying? So I'm just saying, normally the guy that's in the slot, unless it's a puka or one of those guys, they rarely throw it to him. Ocho. And you know, look, man, first of all, your Best receiver is on the outside. Y' all gonna try to get that ball in Jigba. Okay, I got something for y'.
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Commercial Announcer
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Go ahead. Oh, I got you. And.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Hey.
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Chad Ochocinco
Hey. That guy. Hey. That goddamn zone with the D tackle popping out. But that's another. That's another tricky one. We just saw that happen with. It just happened this past Sunday.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
I'm trying to think, who did that? The Ravens. I mean, the Ravens did it. That's what Calvino did. He touch and drop.
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Chad Ochocinco
Oh, yeah. On Joe. On Joe. You get that?
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Because, you know, hey, you see the guy engage with the offensive lineman, you think he's coming, and the next thing you know, he got a little pressure.
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Chad Ochocinco
He done pop. He done popped out in coverage.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Yeah, right. Drops right in your throwing lanes.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
I mean, I don't know what to say about Seattle. The defense made. I mean, look, you give up 500 yards, we can't say. The defense, they gave up 581 yards on Joe. We can't say that defense, because you give up damn near 600 yards, your defense ain't do. Ish. Yeah, but they made. When they.
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Chad Ochocinco
When it counted, when it mattered, when it mattered most. And this. This is what I will say, obviously, I think Seattle has a very good defense. Huh? They have a very good defense, but they were playing one of the better offenses in the league tonight. They were playing the goddamn Los Angeles Rams. The Los Angeles Rams make everybody look like that. Matthew Stafford has made everybody look like that. So in their case, eh, it's tough. Hey, but they did. They did when they need. Hey, Sam. Donald delivered when he needed to deliver. Despite being down by 16. This is one of the. This might have been one of the better games.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
All guys, for sure.
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Chad Ochocinco
We've had some.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
We.
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Chad Ochocinco
Hey, listen, we've had some good ones, but this one, this was nice talking about.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
You talking about 2:11 and three teams on a Thursday night on a short week.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yes.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
And to get this kind of offensive performance by both teams, say, hey, this was. This was on. This was unbelievable, man. That Nick Emmanuel worry. I think that's how you say his name, man. He could.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, yeah. Number three. Number.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Number three. Yeah, man. You see how he chased Puka down?
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Chad Ochocinco
Oh, yeah, yeah. But see, Puka's not a burner.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
That man was not a steel.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. If there. If there wasn't. If there. If there was a knock on Puka, if you. If you want to be, you know, like, anal about it, I mean, he. He's not. He's not fast. He's not a burner. But outside of that, everything else.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
But if you think about O, he's 45, which is plenty fast enough.
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Chad Ochocinco
I mean, it's plenty fast. But we. We think about burners and, And, And. And speeches in the NFL. You think 4, 2, 5.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
We ain't got but a handful of them. Botho, we got left. We got what? We got reek at wide receivers. We got reek at the. We got Thornton and we got Worthy.
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Chad Ochocinco
Right, Right. But everybody else. Four, three. After that, damn. Damn near every other skill position. Oh, yeah, no, everybody run four, three.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
You gotta, you know, I mean, you know, hold on. I think, well, Woland was the one that ran four, two.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Tyreek. Yeah.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
He ran, what, 427, 428 or two, so. But they got some. They got some burners, but this was a damn good game. Tip your hat to Sam Darnold. 22 or 34, 272 touchdowns. He had two interceptions. But you know what? He kept plugging away. And, and you see, Cooper Cup Chat. This is what Nocho and I talk about. You see that deep play that he made? You see, I let his body go limp. Yes. You see, he didn't try to take another step. You see how his body went limp and he was able to get his feet down. That's what Ocho and I be talking about, guys. Be trying to take that last step. Your body go limp. Your body. So if your body goes limp, guess what? You can't take another step.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. You got to. And it's. It's all about being aware where you are on the field. It is being aware where you are on the field. And the only way to get yourself in is you got to let your body relax. Just let it. Let it go.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Just let it go. Because you don't. Because if you're saying you don't really know where you are, don't chance about taking that, that, that, that step because you got one down, and then you take that long step, and next thing you know, you have your foot out of bounds when you just could have gone limp. And the body, you know, pause. I know y', all, but keep saying limp. Limp. But that's what we mean. Your body. Your body goes. I mean, when you. You hit, get hit in the head, and you see how boxers, when they get dropped, what does his body do? Yeah. Goes limp. And so that's what we're at. That's what we're telling receiver to do. Go limp. Don't take that extra step. And Then you're in bounds. This was Ocho. What. What do you. What do you think where you rank Puka.
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Chad Ochocinco
Right now? You got. He got him in the top five. And this is what I hate, too, when it.
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Commercial Announcer
When it comes.
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Chad Ochocinco
Hey, this is what I hate when.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
It comes four or five.
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Chad Ochocinco
Hey, listen, the rankings continuously change year to year. It's hard for. It's hard for. You know, last year, you know, you had Jamar Chase, you had Justin Jefferson, you know, A.J. you had CD Lamb. But it's hard for the top players to always consistently be at the top because something always happens. This year, Jetta in the quarterback situation. Jamar Chase and. And Joe Burrow missing time. Even though. I mean, even though Chase is still, you know, he's four as far as receiving yards are concerned. But some. Something always goes wrong. Puka Nakua doubling back and having another great year.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Puka has been great since he got into the league. And we kept saying, yeah, let's see. Another. Let's see. We don't want to rank him too high because it's one year. Well, it's been more than one year. And Puka Nakua has not let us down. He's a top three receiver now. I don't care what you want to rank him if you say Chase, but if you look at Puka and his production since he's been in the league, it's hard to say there have been better.
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Chad Ochocinco
Wait, hold on. What year is Puk?
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
I think Puka's in his third year now.
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Chad Ochocinco
This.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. He's his third. I think it's his third third because remember, he had all. Remember, he goes. He goes like 1, 110, 112, like 13, 1400 yards. And then he got. Nick, you say, but he got. And he came back and ended up going over a thousand yards. And this year he's at like, what. What is that, 1600?
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Hey, yeah, he. He pa. He passed JSN tonight.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Yeah.
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Chad Ochocinco
Cause JSN was first. He passed JSN with 225.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Yeah, he passed JSN tonight.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. And you know what? He missed the game. Yeah, he did.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Yes.
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Chad Ochocinco
I think he missed the game maybe two. And he still. Man. Oh, my goodness. Can you imagine? Could you imagine?
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Puka's at 1590. JSN's at what, 16? What? Well, JSN had 15, 14. So he's over 1600.
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Chad Ochocinco
Right?
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
So he's at. So he's at 1633.
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Chad Ochocinco
Hey, hey, could. Could you imagine every time I look at that offense, I look at what the way they use jsn. I look at the way they use Puka, Nakua and. And I just imagine myself being in an offense like that with that type of creativity, that type of movement, you know, being in the slot be like, hey, listen, I line up two places. I line my black ass up on the left, I line my black ass up on the right and they say, get open. That's it.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
You starting the team right now. You want Puka or jsn?
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Chad Ochocinco
Oh, that's tough. That's tough. Hey. Oh, that, that's tough. I mean, listen, there are other factors that come into that as well. Puka, jsn. What's the offense?
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
They're in the offensive end right now.
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Coca-Cola Announcer
What a matchup we got, y'.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
All.
- [24:34]
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- [27:13]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
But you're right.
- [27:14]
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- [28:10]
Chad Ochocinco
Damn. You know what? I ain't got no coin to flip. That's. That's, that's a coin flip right there. Huh? I'm just being honest. And then. And I would love to hear the chats. The chat's choice of who you would pick.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
No, they want you to pick because I, I, me, me. And I love Jason. I'm taking puka because I think he's a little bit more physical. I think he's a little bit. I think he, he plays a little better through contact. Now that's not gonna look.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
When you got to make decisions.
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Chad Ochocinco
That's not, that's not JSN game though. That's not Jason.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
I mean, that's what I'm saying. He can.
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Chad Ochocinco
Right?
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Pooka can get. Can get open. But his ability to play through contact, his ability to run. After catch now, JSN Is tremendous. After catch now JSN Is a better rock runner. Bas. JSN looks like he's a. He's better technically, but I cannot. I'm always. For me, Ocho, I'm always going to take the good big man over the good little man.
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Chad Ochocinco
Okay, okay, that's fair. That's fair. Well, listen, I'm taking. I'm taking GSN simply because of the artwork, simply because of the artistry.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Oh, he's fluid. Oh, he's.
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Chad Ochocinco
He's.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Oh, my goodness. Stop and start being able to pick. But they. I mean, what they do with Puka, I mean, they throw it. They throw the drip. They throw the smoke screen. Bubble screen. They put him in motion. And the thing is, is that when you put him in motion. And plus, another thing I like about.
- [29:29]
Chad Ochocinco
It, you got to back off.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
See how when they go to run the ball, you see who they insert to go up there, lead them, get to safety.
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Chad Ochocinco
Oh, yeah, and he digging out, huh? But he. And he's a big boy. He's a big boy.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
But it's unbelievable. It's. It this. It's unbelievable. I mean, both of those guys are. Are putting up huge, huge, huge numbers. Yeah. Ocho, just moments ago, Puka tweeted, can you say I was wrong? Appreciate you stripe for your contribution. Lol. Off the hill. I mean, think about Ocho now. He just said. I mean, he just did a gesture. I didn't see it, but I guess he was on Aiden Ross's live stream, and Aiden talked him into doing a gesture, and I guess it's. It's. It's deemed anti Semitic. I didn't see it. So, Chad, I. I'm the last one to speak on it, but he apologized for that earlier today. You would think after having apologized for doing something that I. I don't believe he knew what it was. I don't. I don't. And I could be wrong, but I don't believe he knew the gesture that he was doing would be viewed as anti Semitic or that's how that. The Jewish community. That's how they view the gesture. So I'm saying I don't believe he knew that. But to come out after the game and just say, appreciate you stripes. Puka, you don't get it, bro.
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Chad Ochocinco
Follow up the.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
On that live stream. Go ahead. OO who.
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Chad Ochocinco
I mean, the. The reference and appreciate you stripes. Was that in reference to the refs? Oh, okay.
- [31:02]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
I guess he Said, I guess he said he appreciate them for. I guess, call. I don't know what it was, but, bro, just let it poke.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, See, I mean, is it. I need better context and perspective. I don't want to just jump the conclusion of what that actually means.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
I appreciate you, Strike for your contribution. I guess, because he's like, you know, Remember he said, ocho, these guys have regular jobs and they want to get on TV also, so sometimes they throw flags. Hey, look, you can see me, right? On tv, Puka. Come on, bro. Okay, Pookie, you're too good. You don't have to do all that. You don't.
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Chad Ochocinco
Okay.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
You would have thought. You would have thought after the gesture. Have they find. Did they find him? Oh, this happened yesterday. Okay.
- [31:42]
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, hey. And the funny thing about it, too, when you think about it, Unc, I mean, there were no flags that were thrown that. That really.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Yeah, there was really, really no passing. I mean, you got the one on jsn, which was really. Was a pass interference. You don't need to twist him. You're there. Oh, he's there.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You can't.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
He played it. You knew what he was running for. The simple fact, basically, he walked off the line. So, you know, either it's a double move, which you got help over the top, or it's the slant. Yeah, you played it perfect. There is no reason for you. That means you're unsure. You're not trusting what you saw on tape, because if you trusted what you saw on tape, you wouldn't. You wouldn't have felt the need to grab his waist because you like, well, I got to do this just in case it's out. No, but you. You didn't have to, bro. You got it played perfect.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, I.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Look, if I. If I could talk to poor guys like Pooka, this. You don't have to do this, bro. Just go play your. Your game. Speak loud. It speaks really, really loud, bro. You don't have to do this. Don't get to that look, though, because here's the thing. You know, these roughs, these refs are human. Now all of a sudden, now you start getting held and you don't get the call, and you wonder why. There's a human element. People like, well, you suppose that. No, you can't. You. That those refs are humans.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, some.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
That's. You understand why some NBA players get calls and some don't. Sometime some get teed up quick. Baseball, you keep arguing and say, okay, that ball might be right down the Plate, ball. You look, bro, just for me, just, just, just, just take it down a notchbook. Everybody knows who you are. You don't have to garner any more attention by, you know, saying outlandish thing. I'm gonna concede the fact, Ocho, that when he was on that stream, he did not realize what he was doing would be viewed as derogatory or whatever the case may be.
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Chad Ochocinco
Right.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
I didn't see it, chat, but I'm saying I didn't see it either. So I came because I didn't see it. The mere fact that he apologized let me know that he, somebody informed him that he had done something wrong or what he did, obviously, as wrong. Go ahead, Ocho. Hold on.
- [34:03]
Chad Ochocinco
He's apologizing because they had to be backlash for whatever it was. I mean, no one apologizes unless there's backlash. And, and, and, and you're informed from those around you, you know, those who are in position, you know, that help you in what you're doing. Hey, listen, this is something that you did on stream. You know, certain people aren't taking it well. You need to come out and apologize. So they write some up for you. You know how they do it? They write some up for you. That's not in your words. And, and you post it and hit send.
- [34:33]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Yeah, I like, look, I like, I, I've been around him a little bit. You know, he was in, I coached the all star game in Indy one year. NBA all star game. And I like Puka. I love his game. I love his game. I love the physicality in which he plays with. I don't know how long you can play that style. Ocho, when you get that many targets and you think about all the bubble screens and all the, you know, stuff, the inserts that he runs, you see what happened. You actually think about Ocho. When you really go back and think about it, you know, Cooper cup only had one 1,000 yard season. It was that historic season. Let that sink in. Ocho let that sink in. And after he had that season, what happened? Ocho, he broke down. So he's catching a lot of stuff. That's the physicality. Now he's a little bigger than Coop, but Cup ain't no small guy. People don't realize Cooper cup like six, three man.
- [35:27]
Chad Ochocinco
Cooper cup told him yes.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
See, I think Slot, they think Julian Edelman, they think Amendola, they think, they think Brandon Stokely, they think Wes Welker. No. Yeah, the Ram slot receivers are big, big men. I mean 6, 2, 6, 3, 210 215, 220. And you have to be that size because you're going to take a lot of collisions. Hold up, let me see. Puka has 16 targets. He called 12 over 225. So you know Ocho, when you catch that many passes and the route and the, the amount of passes that he catches behind the line of scrimmage. So you know, a lot of times D lineman hitting you from the back, LB's hitting you from the side, safety's coming downhill. But look, I know everybody's gonna say, man, that two point conversion, that's why you play snap the whistle, right? That's why you a the Seattle. I mean, it's like it was like the Rams didn't realize it. They thought it was just tipped. It's like it was incomplete. They didn't realize it was a backwards pass.
- [36:38]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, I didn't realize it was either. I didn't. Everybody on the field stopped. So when everybody on the field stopped.
- [36:44]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
I thought, I thought, guess who didn't stop. Sharpen. Oh, yeah, but that, but that's what, remember Ocho, there's like, okay, the ball and you see guys all the time scrambling for the ball sometimes. Like, well, that was a forward pass. Well, I'm gonna make sure it was a forward pass. I'm gonna pick it up and head the other way. Because if it wasn't a forward pass, it's about to be a touchdown. Or it's about to be our ball.
- [37:08]
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, one or the other.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
And the officials, all they did was this. What? No whistleblow? Ain't no whistle blue.
- [37:15]
Chad Ochocinco
It's so funny. The officials was on top of it. And the officials don't even let you know it's a live ball. They just sit there staring, just waiting, just waiting.
- [37:25]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
I can't tell you.
- [37:26]
Chad Ochocinco
That's funny.
- [37:26]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
You might want to see. I know I shouldn't have listened to you, Ocho. Man, you would ask. Man. Rashid, he had 91 yard last week. Guess how many pass he catch. Oo how many?
- [37:40]
Chad Ochocinco
You, you bull jazz.
- [37:41]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Look what you call them. Puka got a touchdown. Kyrie Williams has 70 yards.
- [37:46]
Chad Ochocinco
What else?
- [37:46]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
The only one we missed was that. That, I mean, he, I, I could, I'd have felt better if he'd have 10 yards, 15 yards.
- [37:52]
Chad Ochocinco
Well, hold on, hold on, hold on. That, that is not that bad because everything else. I told you to go. I mean, it was, it was a green light. Now what? You missed one. That ain't that bad.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
We don't get no money at all. Damn.
- [38:11]
Chad Ochocinco
And we don't get nothing.
- [38:12]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Nothing. But, look, I'm anxious to hear what Sean McVeigh said, because maybe Sean McVeigh said, well, we heard the whistle blow. Well, if the whistleblower doesn't matter, if it was a backwards pass, the ball's dead. Whistle blows means plays over.
- [38:34]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
- [38:34]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Anything that happens after that is not. Is null and void. So it's going to be interesting to hear. I'd be interested to hear. Chat. I don't know what y'. All. If y' all watch the press conference, listen to what the press conference had to say. Ocho, did you see A.J. barna's route? That 7 route that he caught? The. The. The touchdown?
- [38:52]
Chad Ochocinco
No, you talk about the post. The post. Corner post.
- [38:55]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
No, the corner.
- [38:56]
Chad Ochocinco
Post. Post.
- [38:57]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
That's. Travis Kelsey was supposed to run against Derwin James. You know why? Because Travis Kelsey does sometimes run a far cross. So now you sell it. So you going up like this, and then you look like you're going on a far cross, guess what he gonna do? He gonna try to undercut you. And in the process of undercutting it, now, you bend it Back to the.
- [39:16]
Chad Ochocinco
7, back to the corner. Yeah, that was. That was a nice little route.
- [39:21]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
A great route.
- [39:22]
Chad Ochocinco
Hey. Hey. I thought he. I thought he was gonna drop it. The way he had to reach for that guy.
- [39:26]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
I thought he overshot him. I definitely thought he overshot him. But I ate. I ran. I ran a seven just like that against San Diego. On a boot. Yeah, ran that thing, Ocho. I hit like these are three steps to the post. I look, I said, oh, boy. You'd have picked that off if I was going to the post, but unfortunately for you, I'm going to the seven.
- [39:46]
Chad Ochocinco
You went back.
- [39:46]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
You went back out bad.
- [39:48]
Chad Ochocinco
Hold on, hold on. John. John rolled left.
- [39:50]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
No, it was. It was Jake Plummer.
- [39:55]
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, so Jake. I mean.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Yeah, we read. Yeah, we ran a boot. So I start like. I'm running, just. Just like what Barter ran, but instead. Okay, okay, this way. And went that way. I think that way. Went this way.
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Chad Ochocinco
Okay, okay, okay.
- [40:07]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
I said. Yeah, I see. It sucks for you, bro. You scold for the third time.
- [40:15]
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, okay, okay. All right.
- [40:17]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
But look here. I know the Rams lost tonight. I don't know who wants to see them. Even though they lost, I still think I. I think if they play again, they'll beat them.
- [40:30]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, probably. Well, you know what? I don't know.
- [40:34]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
The game's close because you got to realize, I think the Rams kicked the field goal to beat them. In. It's going to be a close game. Ochos a division rival. They know each other. Yeah, I know you. You know me, know me. Seattle's probably saying, hold on. If we don't turn the ball over. Three times. We had three turnover, remember? Cooper cup fumbled and they could have got three points. Three points or maybe even a touchdown. Out of that.
- [40:59]
Chad Ochocinco
Out of that. Yeah.
- [41:00]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
So Seattle's thinking, bro, we take care of the ball.
- [41:03]
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, we good?
- [41:06]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
If I'm the Rams, it's like they're looking at the opportunities that were squandered, especially early. He overshoot Cooper. I mean, excuse me, he overshoots Puka. Lyman comes in and he's blocking down the field. Takes a touchdown off the board. You end up having to settle for three. They go for it on fourth down is fourth and an inch. And they don't get it. Yeah, this was a great game. This was a great game.
- [41:35]
Chad Ochocinco
Very, very good game.
- [41:38]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Oh, what you been eating? They say you got food in your teeth.
- [41:42]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, let me see. Hold on. I just had wifi.
- [41:47]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
They say bottom right.
- [41:49]
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. See, that's why I love my chat, boy. My chat. I show. Hey, I sure did. What? Hey, that's what that. See, that's what I like. That's what I like about my people. What? Like my people gonna let you know, huh? Give me. Yeah, people. People gonna let you know. Ain't they gonna have you looking crazy, man. Hey, Chad, I appreciate y', all, man. I'm almost teared up. Huh? Almost teard up.
- [42:19]
Coca-Cola Announcer
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- [42:23]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
All.
- [42:23]
Coca-Cola Announcer
This is that classic HBCU vibe. Non stop action. The band is rocking and the crowd lit. Chance echo drum beat, everybody. Showing that school pride. Game like this. Yeah, it calls for an ice cold Coca Cola. Ah, crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there. Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere. And in ice cold Coca Cola, that's a winning combo. No matter the sport, no matter the yard, Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and keep that HBCU pride going.
- [43:07]
Sophie Cunningham
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- [43:50]
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- [45:22]
Sophie Cunningham
Right?
- [45:23]
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- [45:55]
Chad Ochocinco
I appreciate y'.
- [45:56]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
All. Ocho NFL NFL insider John Machado, who covers the Cowboys believe the team will more than likely franchise tag George Pickens. Machado said, if I had to predict today Pickens would end up getting the franchise tag, he obviously won't like that idea. I just have my doubts about Jerry being able to get a deal done with David Mugaletta Mulaguetta Excuse me, David Mulaguetta after how ugly things got with Michael Parsons, Jones could prove me wrong. But the tag is more likely at this point. Either way, I don't see a scenario where Pickens is playing anywhere but Dallas next season. Pickens is having his best season yet. 81 catches, 1200. 12001212 yards, 8 touchdown and his contract year. Ocho if Jerry Jones franchise tags George Pickens, do you believe it gets ugly? Now Mula Guetta has said one contract negotiation does not impact another contract negotiation. What are your thoughts on this?
- [46:56]
Chad Ochocinco
If you franchise George Pickens understanding that he's had the season he's had, knowing that it's his opportunity to get a payday somewhere else and then you don't see fit or want to pay him, but understand his value, which is why you're tagging him. And you're tagging him because basically all you're telling me is you're doing too things. Either you're tagging him to buy yourself more time to get a deal done before the season starts or you're tagging him because you don't trust him and you don't trust in giving them that long term money. That's it. It's only two things. Either I'm waiting to buy myself more time to get to work out a deal. No, we got to take care of that. We got to take care of some other things. We going to get to you. Oh, you know what? You good for us. But you only did it one year. Let's see if you could do it another. Nah, we we not playing that we not playing that we not. We're not playing that we not we. I don't want to. That's, that's why I said that's what. That's the first thing I said. Let him have a good year. Let him go somewhere else and get his money.
- [47:58]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
I can't do that. Ocho.
- [47:59]
Chad Ochocinco
Nobody else anywhere else. He wouldn't have to deal with this. He wouldn't have to deal with this. It's. It's a no brainer. No brainer. I don't like it. I Don't like it.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
I mean, George Pink could have made it real easy. Ocho. He could have made it real easy. If you're in a contract year, Ocho. What, what, what is. What is Ocho sink in a contract year? What is Ocho gonna do? Be on his absolute best behavior? His absolute best behavior. The means at 9 o', clock, Ocho sitting in the chair. At 8:55, the bus leaves. At 3:30, Ocho on the bus at 3:20, Ocho ain't getting no passes. Ocho still busting his ass. I'm not gonna give y' all any reason to tell me this is why y' all can't give me no money. You know, Ocho, they look when you go to the combine, they look for reasons why they shouldn't draft you. They looking for reason why they shouldn't give you money. The only people that they're looking at that you don't have to give them a good damn reason to give you money is the damn quarterback. That is the only position everybody else have to prove beyond at the quarterback. Well, hey, he. He looks promising. Let's drop 50 on him.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Running back, man. Well, you know, you got. You got mileage on your body. Well, you know, I got the mileage here, right? Well, I received well, you know, you kind of. Well, I, you know, I'm playing injured because, you see, they don't look at. I'm playing injured. I'm taking these injections to get out there on the field and help you win. All they talk about what your injury prone. Well, I'd have been back a lot sooner. I wouldn't have been Olympic as long as had I sat my ass down and took two weeks to heal. As opposed to trying to play through this ish. I've never heard a doctor say. And I've had some say, you know what? Just continue what you do and you'll get healthy. They normally tell you, sit your ass down and rest.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, that's the only way to get healthy.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
So I'm trying to figure out how going out there on the field. Look, you and I both knew George Pickens had immense talent. The question I was like, yo, you costing yourself so much money if you just.
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Chad Ochocinco
You.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
I. He realized. I mean, look, dude, he likes 6, 3, 2, 10, 2, 15. Tremendous physical, great after the catch, sometimes he. Sometimes he drifts. Sometimes he seems uninterested. And you just can't be. You just can't be that way on a contract year.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, well, listen, if you don't like him, you don't like what you see from him, let him go.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
No, I'm gonna hold on to it one more year. I got third round.
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Chad Ochocinco
For what? For what? I mean, why would you hold on to him? Yeah, yeah. Just. Cause you understand how good he is and you understand his guy.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
You should have thought about that when y' all had free agents. When y' all had what? What did I tell you? The first thing they should have done, Ocho. Do away with what? Tag.
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Chad Ochocinco
Franchise tag.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
How the. How the hell is that free agency? If you interfere with my ability to go get fair market value?
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Chad Ochocinco
I mean, I. I told you I should have been director. Man. Never mind. I'm gonna let that go. They. They want. They want somebody to steal that ship. I bet you I get every player what they want. I bet that. Yeah. No more franchise tags.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Oh, that. That should have been number one.
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Chad Ochocinco
Hold on. I got. Let me. Go ahead finish now. Health insurance benefits.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Lifetime, at least after five years.
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Chad Ochocinco
Nah, life.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
You can't. Oh, you can't give a guy to please one year lifetime benefits. Now, come on.
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Chad Ochocinco
Okay. You play. You play more than three years, lifetime benefits.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Okay.
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Chad Ochocinco
Okay. And I don't know what my third would be, but those. Those are the top two.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Even if you had. Even if you had, you took the guys and say, look, you need to put 10, $15,000 a year. You play three, you play. You become a vested player after the third year.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
You're going to get lifetime benefits. That's how it should be, Ocho. If you play three years. Let's just say for the sake of argument, the average career is about 2.5 years. I don't know how to get to 2.5, but let's just say 2.5. The average NFL player starts his career at 22, 23. So at 26 years of age. So now from 26 to 31, you get free medical.
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Chad Ochocinco
Bro.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
You got, for the most part, you got at least 10, 15, 20, 30, 40 years to live.
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Chad Ochocinco
Hold on. And can I say something real quick? And the issues and the problems do not happen that goddamn early. Once you're done playing.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Thank you.
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Chad Ochocinco
What we talk about, it's like a car in this warranty. The warranty runs out, then all of.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
A sudden you start having problems.
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Chad Ochocinco
Goddamn well, ain't nothing gonna go wrong with the car until the warranty is done. Come on, now.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
I would be. I would. And that's how it is. As soon as the car. Cars under warranty. Don't nothing go wrong as soon as that thing hit 50,000. A hundred thousand. A hundred thousand in one mile.
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Chad Ochocinco
Here you go.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
You sitting here. You come out the garage, don't show the windshield wipers going, the hazard lights on. What the hell happened? Hey, I got Christine in my girl in my garage. But I would. I. I think I. I don't know if they'll go three years, Ocho, but I think somewhere between five and seven years, if you say, if you play, if you can make it five to seven years, you'll get lifetime health benefits. That gotta be. That's gotta be a thing, Ocho. It's gotta be.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, yeah.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Because five years, Ocho, if I'm doing it, if I'm done, it. If I'm done at 26, I get health insurance till I'm 31.
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Chad Ochocinco
You ain't gonna have no goddamn problems at 30.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Most people don't.
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Chad Ochocinco
Night. Once you hit them 40s, you hit them that 45, and. And you know that wear and tear started. Start starting to creep upon you.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
So. Look, I. I just think the thing is, Look, I. I think right now I agree with John Machado. I. I think they're looking towards a friend unless they can get something done. But here's the thing, Ocho. He's gonna want more than CD Lamb because he says CD did that deal two years ago. How y' all gonna hold me up? I gotta push the market.
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Chad Ochocinco
Hey, listen, I. I just. I just don't like the nature of the business. I. I understand, Jerry. You understand. The Dallas Cowboys fans also understand how valuable George Pickens is. You. You saw it all season long on the. Woody's able to do what he was able to do when CD Lamb was out. What he's been able to do once CD Lamb came back, I think just to keep. Just to keep things fair and clean for that team. Allow CD Lamb to go back to being the number one. Just. It just allow him to have his own team. Allow him to have his own team. I think Jerry should. Should grant him that grace. The same way he granted Micah that grace to let Micah go somewhere else. He should do the same thing for George Pickens. Dak is going to be just fine with CD Lamb as his number one. And they're very many, many, many reliable number twos that are out there. Many reliable number twos. There's no need to keep two ones on your team and pitch George picking off or piss off David Mulaguer. It just makes no sense to me. It. To me, it's just bad.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Did the Rams play the Patriots in The Super Bowl? 2019. Because he didn't. He didn't play in the super bowl because he tore his knee.
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Chad Ochocinco
Who?
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Cooper.
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Chad Ochocinco
Grady.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Cooper Cup.
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Chad Ochocinco
Cooper cup.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Okay, so yeah, Cooper cup has. And he has two 1,000 yard seasons. Ocho. In 2019 he had 1161 on 94 receptions. And then in 2020 he had 94 receptions for 974. And then he went crazy. 145, 1947, 16 touchdowns when he won the Triple Crown on 191 targets.
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Chad Ochocinco
God damn.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Hell, I see why, bro. Oo he had. He had 134 targets. 124, 191, 98, 95, 100. I mean, even his first year oo he had 95 targets. Okay? 2018 was when he ended up hurting his knee. He had 55 targets in eight games. So that's over. That's on pace to be another 100 plus targets.
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Chad Ochocinco
Hey, I wonder what my numbers would have looked like with 145 targets, huh?
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Man, I only. I don't even want. I don't even. Ocho, I try not to think about. I don't. I really don't know. I really don't. But we. Look, first of all, I wasn't gonna get 145 targets because I had that hall of Fame running back in the backfield, right? So you're not gonna get those kind of targets. So I just accepted the fact, hey, if I can get. If I felt, if I basically when what TD had in my backfield, if I could get 65, 70 catches, I had a good season.
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Chad Ochocinco
You good? Okay. I get. I got you.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
I mean, do you understand how many carries a guy got to get to get 2000 yards, to get 1700 yards?
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Chad Ochocinco
I absolutely understand it. I absolutely understand it.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
I mean, you had Cor. You had Cor. Dylan, you had, rest his soul, Rudy Johnson in your backfield, you know?
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Ah, that's. That's crazy. 145 catches.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
145 on 191 targets.
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Chad Ochocinco
191 targets. My goodness.
- [58:06]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
It's a bunch. A bunch of targets, Ocho. But look, they got some decisions to make, Dak. They're gonna redo that. They're gonna redo that. That is almost $80 million against the cap. They're going to bring that number way down. They're probably more than likely. I probably. I'm saying there's 95 chance they're going to move on from Trayvon Diggs. So he will have. It's Going to be dead cat money. Maybe some, maybe they try to trade him, but you still going to have some, you know, some dead cap money on your thing. What are they going to do with all three of those defensive tackles? That's, you know, you got 20 plus million dollars in 3D tackles, right?
- [58:48]
Chad Ochocinco
Well, I know Trayvon Diggs thinking about coming down to Cincinnati. Okay, yeah, I, I talked to him. I talked to him. He's going to try to come on down in and help revamp and improve that defense one year remove from being able to get back healthy. The fact that he, he said he's healthy now, but he'll be even that much more healthier next year once he's a banger. Stripes. I'm gonna talk, I'm gonna talk to Jeffrey Simmons. I'm gonna see what.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Jeff, you have to give up something to give Simmons. And I'm not so sure they want him to. I'm not so sure they plan on letting him go.
- [59:22]
Chad Ochocinco
Listen, we gonna, we gonna give them something they can't resist. We gonna give them something we, they can't resist. I don't know what that is, but we gonna get Jeffrey Simmons too. And right now, I think outside of Trayvon Diggs and Jeffrey Simmons, we will, we will continue to build in the draft defensively, offensively as well. We need to get maybe, maybe another guard. Maybe another guard. Yeah, that's pretty much it. That, that's my plan if I was gm.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Yeah. But it's gonna be interesting to see how this thing plays out with Jerry and what he going to do. I just know the first order of business is to get Dakota. They think the world of Dak. They believe they have the quarterback that can get them where they need to be. So the first order of business is to get that cap, that $80 million cap hit to get that down. Now the cap is going to go up and so you're going to have a little bit more. How much is it going up? Is it going to 5 million, 10 million, 15 million? We don't know. But the first order of business is to get cap that cap number down to probably the first year. If we can get it down to say 10, 15 million.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yes, get big, big old signing bonus. Bigger, big old signing bonus.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Yes, Chad, I know I corrected myself. Cooper cup in his eight, nine. I think this is ninth season, has two 1000 yard season. 2018, he tore his knee. He came back 2019, had 1100 yards. And then it was that historic season in 2020, if I'm not mistaken. Where he had the 1945, he came up 22 yards, 23 yards short of breaking Calvin Johnson's 1967. But he had an unbelievable season. Ocho as captured by hard knocks darts aggressive style also shapes the approach defense takes towards him. Dan Quinn, Joe Whit encouraged Washington players to treat Dart like a running back and hit him as much as possible. Dart was asked if that bothers him. He replied, no, absolutely not. I mean, Kirby Smart said the exact same thing every time that he played against me. So did Nick Saban, so did every coach that I played in college. So this is nothing new. Just try to go out there and play smart and be available for your team. Well, clearly you haven't done that. I mean it just gets me excited. I mean I'm just a competitor. You want to go out there and compete. And obviously they're acknowledging respect in a way too. So I appreciate that you want to go out there, play really good for your team. And I think anytime that there's a team that game planning and they think definitely gives a respect to a player, I think it's for a reason, bro. They're saying they're trying to break you. You're not a running back. Plus how long of the college season? Let's just say for the sake of argument, because he's never gone, he's never been to the SEC championship, so let's just say 13 games. You do realize you play four extra regular season games and probably two presets. You go play two presence games. So that's six longer games. I promise you. The guys in the NFL hit harder. So I mean look, you could be braggadocious and say that's a sign of respect. But you say, okay, play smart. But are you playing smart now? It's been reported that you've been evaluated five times for concussions in 14 games. Let that sink in for a second. Five times in his rookie season in 14 games. Oo, do you think at any point in time, the remainder of his career he'll ever be evaluated for a concussion again? Cuz I say it's 100%.
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Chad Ochocinco
Of course, absolutely, absolutely. But there's something about him, something about me. You don't want to take that edge and competitive spirit away from him. The fact that he is like they'll.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Take it away from.
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Chad Ochocinco
It's going to be a while. Yeah, it's gonna be a while. It's gonna be a while before he changes. It's going to be. Something drastic is going to have to happen for him to understand how Dangerous this game is, especially for the quarterback position. And he's playing it like he's back in college. He's playing like he's, he's, he's playing high school ball. So it's going to take something drastic for, for you to have had to have had the concussions that you've had to have missed time and, and still think I need. I know it's a game. I know it's a game. But to still think it's a game, you know, as far as your health is concerned and being available for your team. I, I, he, he doesn't get it just yet.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
No. They said that they hit anybody with the ball if you wide receiver, man hit. Ocho, they just said. Oh, they're saying hit. You don't have the protection as a runner with the football that you have inside the pocket.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, yeah.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Look how big. Let me ask you. Look how big Cam was.
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Chad Ochocinco
Oh, hey, listen. And they, they, because he was so big, they weren't really throwing the flags because of his size. They use it against him. They use it again.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
All I'm saying is this. You're not gonna produce. So if your quarter, if your coach calling runs and you're not going to protect yourself. I'm on the opposing team. Why should I protect you?
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, that's right.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
I'm trying to split your dome too. If they think that little about you, I think even less.
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Chad Ochocinco
I mean, they can pick and choose to be able to use them because he is a dual threat. He is very, very good with his legs. He just has to be smart about it. The more reckless he is then the less they can take advantage of his legs with certain play calling. And so that, that the onus on that becomes part of the coach's job as well. So if the coaches put him in harm's way, they let, they letting us know and letting him know, you know, we don't really care.
- [65:03]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Jackson Dart was evaluated for a concussion in the fourth quarter in the Sunday game against the Commanders. That is the fifth time in 10 games. So 50 of the games he's played chat dating back to the preseason, he's been checked for a concussion. 50%.
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Chad Ochocinco
Damn. How many concussions you had, huh? You can't count.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Probably 14 years. 91, 96, 98.
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Chad Ochocinco
Well, God. God damn.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Only five.
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Chad Ochocinco
Okay, okay, okay. That's not bad. I mean 14, 14 year career. I mean, only five. That's not bad at all.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
That's not bad that I got diagnosed with. Now how many times did I have my bail Rung. That's a whole different argument. That's a whole different. That's a whole different question. Because we are. We all got. And seeing stars is, you know. Oh, damn. Well, he got me with that one. Yeah, I better not do that again. But as a quarterback, bro, you're not used to taking that kind of hits. You're not.
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Chad Ochocinco
Not. Not at this level. Not. Not grown. Grown men. Oh, them people got. Them people got families. They got bills to pay.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
What you.
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Chad Ochocinco
What you talking about, man? You better, man. Man, listen, he'll understand. He'll get it.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
I sure hope so because he's. He's fun to watch. Like you said, he may. Hey, they see they made the right decision. He seems like he's the right guy for that market. They love him. The fans.
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Chad Ochocinco
Oh, yeah.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Have embraced him. And Scat and Scat Pack, they're great. Perfect, bro. If you think you're going to run around in this league and have a long career, you're not. You're not. You're not. Twice this season, Abdul Carter has been benched for start of the game for disciplinary reasons. But the Giants say they're seeing Carter respond the right way. Giants DC Charlie Bullen said his response, quite honestly, has been incredible. Both of those moments. I mean, he's taken ownership publicly in the building with his teammates and coaches, and then honestly, just in terms of, like, pattern of behavior, he's doing more. He's watching more film. He's coming in earlier. He's staying later. So the response is what I focus on. Everybody makes a mistake. Everybody needs to learn the NFL process and what. Which he's learning right now. But his response to those moments has been awesome. He's been. He's been pro like. And that's all you're asking of a young player to do is to become a pro and grow in their game. And he has. So I like.
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Chad Ochocinco
I like that. Listen, learning from your mistakes. Learning from your mistakes, you know, change behavior means you're really sorry.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Yep.
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Chad Ochocinco
Continuously. Continuously repeating the same thing that we've already told you not to do. Okay. You really don't care. You really don't care. And the opportunities you will get, they will be short. Now, you. You. You get it. You extended grace because you're an early.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Correct.
- [68:32]
Chad Ochocinco
You're. You're an early pick. So you get a little bit more grace. And everybody leash ain't as long as yours.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Correct again.
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Chad Ochocinco
But you take it. You take. Hey, listen, you keep taking advantage of it. They will show you you're not bigger Than the program. I don't care where you picked you.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
You're right. You're right. And you know, Ocho, some, Some guys you like, man, bro, you should get it. You, second pick in the draft. No, your third pick in the draft, yada, yada, yada. But some guys mature sooner than others. If you got kids, you understand that some kids get it right away. And some kids, you have to repeat yourself. You just hope that before it's too late, they get it. And you just hope it's too. It's. It's. You know, he's learning. They, bro, this is pro. This ain't Penn State, bro. They not gonna let you get away with that. Now, ult, you J.J. watt, you Aaron.
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Chad Ochocinco
Donald, different ball game.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
But you're not that yet. So you're not going to have that kind of lease. You're not going to have that kind of lead that looks like. Okay. And I don't know why you would want that. You want to show your teammates, you want to show your teammates that you can be accounted. That you can be counted on.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Your whole thing is to try to get that C on your chest as fast as you possibly can. That means your teammates respect you. They and the coaches trust you. But like you said, Ocho, he's. He's a young player. He came in a lot of expectations. This season has not gone the way he liked. He hadn't had the season that he had hoped. You know, missed a couple starts of the game. But like you said, if he's learning from his mistakes, change behavior is the greatest apology. So you apologize to the coaches and your teammates and you let yourself down. But if you change, you change that pattern of behavior. Are you there on time? And his coaches are saying he's coming in earlier, he's staying later. Yeah, but I'm just trying to. I. I just never understood that. Ocho. What, you got another job? You got to get, too. Why you. Why you trying to get out of there so quick? Ocho, you got one job.
- [70:37]
Chad Ochocinco
Well, you know how. Yeah, you know how. You know how it is, man. You know, when you're young, man, you, you know, get to work, do your thing. You know, you don't watch anything outside of the film. You have to with. Excuse me, with your team. You know, them young boys. Them young boys be trying to get up out of there and explore the city, man. Yeah.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Oh, so I have nothing to do, right?
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Chad Ochocinco
No.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
What I had to do.
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Chad Ochocinco
So you think you ain't. You think you ain't had nothing to do. Hell, my black ass stayed in the stadium my first two years.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
I'm like, right.
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Chad Ochocinco
You know, I had that. Hey, I had that pool table, ping pong. I had a PlayStation, had the Xbox. I was straight. I had cable. It's about. Hey, got by. By a place. Rent a place, man, please.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Oh, my bad.
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Chad Ochocinco
I mean, please. For what? And everything. Everything that. All the. Hey, listen. All the amenities. All the amenities you telling me to go waste money on is right here where I work. Come on, man, stop playing.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Please. Go home. And do what? Watch Jeopardy. Ain't nowhere to go. I mean. Cause for the first month, I'll stay with. I stay with Mel. Mel Bratton. And then I stayed with.
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Chad Ochocinco
Wait, Melvin Bratton? University of Miami Melvin Bratton.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
That cat was with me in Denver.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yes, man, I know. Mail, man. Okay, okay. I ain't know that. Okay.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Bobby Humphrey B Hump. I stayed. I stayed. Hey, my place wasn't gonna be ready till like, the 1st of October. Obviously, we done broke camp on your. I ain't got no place to stay.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
I said, man, damn right. It's like, hey, man, little sharp. Where you. Where you. Where you going? Where you staying? Man, my place won't be ready till. Till October, right? That. Can't say. I got it for two weeks. My mom not coming the first two weeks. Hey, yeah. Hump say, well, my girl ain't coming till such and such. I got him after that Ricky Nancy. I'll take it. So.
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Chad Ochocinco
God damn.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Hey, they passing me off.
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Chad Ochocinco
They're pat. They're passing, right?
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
The only thing. Let me tell. Oh, oh, so we. Yeah, I'm staying with. I'm staying with brat with a fat cat. Man, we come in one night. Hey, man, come on. You gonna be the designated driver. I said, oh, man. Lord have mercy. Damn. I said, I'm calling people every day. Y' all sure my place can't be ready before then? I'm tired of driving. Ocho. We come in 11 o', clock, 12 o' clock at night, man, let's skew. They jump on the grill. Thank you. You see the look on your face? Hold on.
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Chad Ochocinco
Who grill that time?
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Thank you. Thank you.
- [73:16]
Chad Ochocinco
They were drunk.
- [73:17]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Let's just say we grilled. And it wasn't the Fourth of July. Man. I say, man. I said, man, Lord have mercy. I said, boy, I know.
- [73:32]
Chad Ochocinco
Hold on, Unc, think about this. If you get home 11, 12 at night and you got to get on the grill, that's a tedious, long process. It ain't like you throwing something in the microwave.
- [73:45]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Man, you know, hey, look at babe. We. Look, they have some. They had. I guess it seemed like a great idea at the time.
- [73:52]
Chad Ochocinco
Right, right, right. Oh, I didn't mean that. Mean y' all ain't had practice?
- [73:57]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Yeah, we had practice the next morning. Man, I'm driving. I gotta drive.
- [74:04]
Chad Ochocinco
Man, y' all tripping, boy. Y' all tripping.
- [74:10]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
I said, man, look here. That what that fat cat tells me, man. That's. That's what I knew. Hey, he said. He was like, hey, he come in, I'll come in. I go straight to my room. I don't see fat cat till in the morning. I ain't come out. Hey, as. Hey, what you. I said, man, stop here. Dairy Queen, stop at McDonald's, stop. I get my food. That's it. I go in my room. I'm here for the night.
- [74:35]
Chad Ochocinco
Well, you was.
- [74:35]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
I was rookie.
- [74:36]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, okay. Oh, so that mean rookie, you ain't had no. You ain't had no girl like that like that, huh?
- [74:41]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Nah, I didn't get. I didn't get my. I didn't get. Once I got my place, you know, Right. I ain't bringing her name up, but I'm just saying she came out.
- [74:50]
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, you talking about.
- [74:51]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
No way there. You ask. Look at her ass. He asked you to bring out Ocho? Who you talking about, Cookie, Man, but that, man, it was some good old times, man. You know what? And I was like, man, and that's kind of where I got it from, because the guys that showed me so much love and, you know, Brad and Hump and Ricky the Teal. And then, you know, watching at Warden and Dennis Smith, I don't know why the guys took such a liking to me, Ocho. But all the. All the vet guys, they really helped me out. And I watched how at water, I watch how Dennis Smith. I watch how they moved. I'm like, okay. I was never a go out type of guy. So, you know, hey, to each their own. That, you know, guys want to go out. I ain't got no problem with that. You'll do your thing, but that ain't me.
- [75:44]
Chad Ochocinco
Right, right.
- [75:45]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
They're like, man, you ain't got no life. You don't want to do anything. I said, yeah, I want to play football. I want to play football for a long time. That's what I want to do. That's it. That's what I want to do. I said, mary did not send me way up here to play one year, and she damn sure didn't see me out here. To go to no club and try to. Nah.
- [76:04]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Hey, listen. Now you got to live a little bit. Now listen, I understand you got structure. I understand you got discipline. You were raised a little bit different. But I mean, see, if you was my teammate, if you was my teammate, yeah, we would have been out. We would have went out. I don't even club for someone like myself that doesn't drink and doesn't club at all. Even. I went out once a month.
- [76:26]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Oh, I did. I mean, once I got. Probably like my. Once I like, kind of got situated, I was playing a little bit more. I started going out probably like, okay, okay. At the end of 91, like 92. And then really, like, really. I started like kind of like 93. I would go out once every other month, but once Burns got there, then I really had somebody I really. I felt like I could jail with.
- [76:49]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [76:51]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
But they had a couple of clubs. They had a club called Basins Up. They had a club called Fish Dance. They had one called Jimmy's. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
- [76:59]
Chad Ochocinco
You said that Fish Dance, what that mean?
- [77:01]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
That was the name of the club.
- [77:03]
Chad Ochocinco
I know, but you said Fish Dance. So it's like a adult.
- [77:07]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
It's like a club, you know, dancing, music and, you know, you know, and by that time, you know, when I went out to Ocho, you know how to sleep. Pull right up to the thing, hit that top.
- [77:18]
Chad Ochocinco
Okay.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Oh, you.
- [77:19]
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, you had to. Convertible.
- [77:20]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Yeah, right up front.
- [77:24]
Chad Ochocinco
Okay. Okay. Are you. And you wanted to see you too.
- [77:27]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Yeah, you got, you got to see.
- [77:28]
Chad Ochocinco
You got to see it.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
And you know, hey, if I did, I had this little cowboy boots. I had some more. Yeah.
- [77:36]
Chad Ochocinco
Wait, you had the cowboy.
- [77:37]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
It comes. I ain't wear too much. I still got what you been, handsome. Still got them.
- [77:42]
Chad Ochocinco
Hold on. You. You had like the belt buckle and all.
- [77:44]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
No, I had no belt buckle.
- [77:46]
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, you. Are you talking. You tuck your shirt in.
- [77:49]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [77:52]
Chad Ochocinco
Okay. Yeah, I like that.
- [77:57]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
You see how Neo was dodging them bullets in the Matrix? That's how that top was going back.
- [78:01]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah, yeah, I like that. I like that.
- [78:08]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Now, back in the day, you know what I'm saying?
- [78:09]
Chad Ochocinco
I.
- [78:10]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
You know, then I was like, okay, they don't need to. They don't need to see this. They don't need to see this.
- [78:14]
Chad Ochocinco
Right, Right? Yeah. Listen, I. I pop out of every blue moon, man.
- [78:18]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
That's how I was. But I ain't never been. I ain't never been no go out type of person. That ain't me.
- [78:22]
Chad Ochocinco
Nah, same same. Hey, matter of. You know, I didn't. I didn't been in Miami all my life. I didn't been in my life, my Miami all my life. I have yet to experience club live. You know, I need to know about club live. You always hear the stories about club live and how much the. But you know, the service and the tables and, and just. It's not about what it costs to be in there. It's just the fact that that environment, you, you know. You know. You know, though, it's just. It's just not me, huh? The music too loud. And then when people, when people drinking, they like that.
- [78:53]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
They like to talk all up in your face and they like, yeah, all.
- [78:57]
Chad Ochocinco
In your face and they'll tell you the three things. They be holding three different conversations and you don't. And you lost and don't know what the hell they talking about. Then they step on your shoes, huh? People step on your shoes. They always bumping you. And like.
- [79:09]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
No, man, I think oo. I think in. In 30 plus years, I think I've gone out in Atlanta twice when it wasn't a Super Bowl.
- [79:19]
Chad Ochocinco
Atlanta.
- [79:19]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Now, when the super bowl came to town, right?
- [79:22]
Chad Ochocinco
You was out, huh? You was. You was in the streets, huh? Hey, hey, I've been. I've been Atlanta. I've been Atlanta one, two, three. Now five. I'm five times now, obviously, two. Two were to play the Falcons. The other three are for work, and super bowl is one of them. And every time I go, the only. I've never been to the club, obviously cigar bar. I go to Cam Newton Cigar. When that, when his cigar bar open. I mean, that from open to closed.
- [79:55]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
The food is crazy.
- [79:56]
Chad Ochocinco
It's called fellowship. Yeah, it's called fellowship. Oh, man, I. I don't move.
- [80:01]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
I mean, the whole day. Yeah, I. I've just never been. I'm. I've always just been a homebody. Mary Porter wasn't playing that, you know, hey, play football games. She was home by herself. I'm like, man, I'm going home, man. Shop you? Nah, I'm good, bro. I. I'll see y'. All. I see y' all on. I see y' all on Monday.
- [80:22]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Hey, but see, you know what you got to do now, right? See every blue moon, this is what I do.
- [80:30]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
This is me, what we do, what we do. What we doing Every blue moon.
- [80:35]
Chad Ochocinco
Like, I like my presence to be felt because you don't see me often.
- [80:39]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
I live here.
- [80:40]
Chad Ochocinco
I live here in Miami, but you don't see my face often on the show. You catch me in the city at my grandma house. You know, everybody in the world know when my grandma stay out there in the 40s. Now every blue moon, I want to put that on though, you know. Hey, I, I, Hey, I, I get dressed with the best. You hear me? Yeah. So every blue moon, I got to go somewhere. Let me put, let me, let me put, let me put some clothes on. Just like feel good about myself. Cause have you noticed I done wore the same. I done wore the same thing the past five shows.
- [81:12]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
That's the best part about it. I be in shorts, Man. You do. You oo need to be in the same room. That means I gotta dress up. I can't have all those Crocs.
- [81:23]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [81:24]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Legs ashy. Hey, yeah.
- [81:27]
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, man. Hey. Oh, man, I'm man, people just. Every blue moon. Hey, you. Hey you. Every blue moon. You need to pop out, man. Just put, put some, put some clothes on. Like you gotta step like. Honestly, can I tell you something? Like, not on. No, no. Cocky, no. Arrogant, arrogant stuff. Like I'm probably top five dress human beings on earth when I really want to put clothes on. Top five in the world, Craig.
- [81:55]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
I believe you.
- [81:56]
Chad Ochocinco
In the world. I'm just being honest. I'm just not, I'm not a fashion person, but when it's time for fashion, I have an eye for it. Yeah, I mean, you know.
- [82:06]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Yeah.
- [82:07]
Chad Ochocinco
No, I mean, yeah, man.
- [82:09]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
I'd be a. People ask me, man, what you doing in Atlanta? Living, man. You live here? Yeah, I ain't know that, man. You know what? I'm sorry I ain't sending you that email. Yeah. Because I don't go nowhere now. You know, some of the boys come to town or something like that. We go get something to eat. But I part of the club?
- [82:33]
Chad Ochocinco
Nah. Hell no. Hey, Unc, I done been. I finally been to booby trap.
- [82:38]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
How was it.
- [82:44]
Chad Ochocinco
Huh? Hey, hey, let me tell you, it's so bad. My kids, my daughters took me to booby trap. Huh?
- [82:59]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
It better, it's better than Houston.
- [83:03]
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, they neck and neck, boy. Hey, it's. It's neck and neck, huh? No, you know, I ain't been to Houston since. I told you I'm never going back. I don't, I don't, I don't want them problems.
- [83:13]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
See, now you talking about you told me let's move to Houston, huh?
- [83:18]
Chad Ochocinco
You know what? Hey, I was just talking.
- [83:20]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Okay? I'm glad.
- [83:21]
Chad Ochocinco
I was just, I still, I still don't understand how the men in Houston can live amongst the women that I saw at my peripheral vision. I didn't look nobody in the eyes. I just used. I used my peripheral vision like I was a running back.
- [83:39]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
You ain't gotta tell me nothing. Gotta tell me nothing. Nothing.
- [83:44]
Chad Ochocinco
Nothing. Oh, God. I ain't been back since. And I ain't going back.
- [83:49]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
I raised. I was raised on a farm. I was in 4H. Hey, I don't been to the Serengeti. I've been to a goat show in the country fair. I ain't never seen no issue like that. What I saw in Houston.
- [84:00]
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, who you telling?
- [84:02]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
It's a rap.
- [84:03]
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, you know Andre Johnson? Andre Johnson from Miami. And I seen Dre the last time I. I went to Drake. Drake, Dre took me to him and Jonathan Joseph. Chapman and Kirby, they took me. Chapman and Kirby. Nice little spot. You get to relax. I was able to smoke my cigar, and I asked. And I. I said, can y' all do me a favor? Now, you know, we family. We brothers. Can you please explain to me? Dre, you done left Miami, and you. You got. You came to Houston, and you ain't been back to Miami since. And I just want to sit here and tell you face to face, to your eye, I understand why Dream been back to Miami.
- [84:41]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
I know. He told me.
- [84:44]
Chad Ochocinco
Hey. Unbelievable. I ain't never. Do we have anybody from Houston in the chat.
- [84:49]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
I hope not. I'm gonna block y'. All. Y' all in the chat. Oh, my God, man.
- [84:54]
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, you want to go. Hey, hey. You want to just take a trip out there to go to Area 29, Ocho? Huh?
- [85:01]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Oh, Joe, I won't. I. I. It got to be in 27.
- [85:06]
Chad Ochocinco
God damn.
- [85:07]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
What happened?
- [85:09]
Chad Ochocinco
You skip a whole year.
- [85:10]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Skip a whole year, Ocho.
- [85:12]
Chad Ochocinco
Why?
- [85:13]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Because they ain't got no dimes. They got.
- [85:14]
Chad Ochocinco
Hey. Not hey. Not.
- [85:15]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Hey.
- [85:16]
Chad Ochocinco
Hold on. You can't. You definitely ain't skipping on the year. Not after that night. We just had night before.
- [85:20]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
I was drunk. I was drunk. I don't remember nothing. That's what I'm using. Oh, no.
- [85:33]
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, hey. Go ahead.
- [85:35]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Go.
- [85:35]
Chad Ochocinco
Go ahead and take your shot at.
- [85:36]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
Laporte to get to talking.
- [85:44]
Chad Ochocinco
Hey. Well, hey, that was a cl. That night was classic. Lord, that was classic.
- [85:49]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
But, Abdul, I'm glad to see you making. You making a man. You're getting it right, man. So I appreciate that.
- [85:53]
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- [86:33]
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- [86:34]
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho' or sports analyst)
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Chad Ochocinco
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