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Nightcap - Hour 1: Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson, and former NFL All-Pro Terron Armstead look back on Armstead’s Pro Bowl career and why he decided it was time to retire from the NFL
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Shannon Sharpe
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
NBC Nightly News legacy isn't handed down or NBC News. I'm Tom Brokaw.
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Colin Cowherd
We hope to see you back here.
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Shannon Sharpe
I'm Lester Holt. It's carried forward. Tom Yamas is there for us. Firefighters are still working around the clock. As the world changes, we look for what endures. We are coming on the air with breaking news right now. We look for a constant and from one era to the next. Trust is the anchor for NBC Nightly News. I'm Tom Yamas. A new chapter begins NBC Nightly News with Tom Yamas evenings on NBC.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
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Shannon Sharpe
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Shannon Sharpe
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The volume Foreign.
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Shannon Sharpe
Hello ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y' all know me, I'm your favorite unc. Shannon Sharp, my partner and co host Liberty City's own bingo ring of fame honoree, Pro Bowler All Pro Madden Adjuster. That's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. And we have a very special guest tonight. He's a five time Pro Bowler of the out of Arkansas Pine Bluff from Belleville, Illinois. And he still holds the record for the fastest offensive lineman for a 40 yard dash time in the combine history at 4, 7 1. Here he is, Tyron Armstead. Tyron, how you doing man?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm good, I'm good hun, how you doing?
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Shannon Sharpe
I'm doing amazing bro, thank you.
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Tom Brady
We ain't gonna just skip over that, huh?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
We got, we'll get to this. We got to get that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. And guys, go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys for your support and your continued support because without you none of this is possible. So Ocho and I and everybody at Nightcap greatly, greatly appreciate your support and hopefully your continued support. Please make sure you check out Shay by La Portier. We do have it in stock and now if you can't find it in a city or state near you, best believe over the next five, six months we are coming to a city or state near you. But in the meantime, if you can't find it, order it. We'll ship it directly to your door. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Go check out my media company page on all of his flat platforms. Shay, Shay Media and my clothing company, 84. The link is pinned in the chat. Supplies are limited and once they're gone, they're gone. So please grab yours while supplies last. Yes, ocho. In the 2013 combine, Tehran recorded the fastest 40 for an offensive lineman in combine history. A record that still stands to this day. It was close. Lane Johnson ran 4, 7 2. But Tehran's record of 4, 71 is close. And if I'm not mistaken, they're the only two offensive linemen that's running the four sevens. There've been a couple of run low four eights, but no other lineman other than to run at 4, 7 1. Lane Johnson at 4, 72 have been in the offensive lineman have been in the 4 7. So as of yet. So now we're 13 years and counting 2013 to 2015 and Tron still held that record. Tron, look, you're coming out of Arkansas, Pine Bluff and it's not like it used to be. There used to be a plethora of guys coming out of HBCUs and so that would have been nothing. But here it is. Now we're in the 2010s and we get an offensive lineman. You're three time SWAC all conference player and you go to the combine. What were your expectations? Did you know you had this kind of ability in you?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, for sure, for sure. I knew I had the talent and the speed and agility to showcase. I just had to get to the showcase. So it was really huge for me to get that combine invite. That was monumental for me, trying to get more exposure, get more eyes to my tape. So I knew that I was gonna go. I was going for the record for sure. Like before I, even before we got to Indy, I was going for the record. I wanted to run faster honestly than that. But I'll take the 474305.
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Shannon Sharpe
That's moving.
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Tom Brady
Now listen, that's what I was getting ready to ask you. I'm getting ready to ask you how tall you were and how much you weighed to be able to run that. Listen, I, I, I ain't run number four five, so technically. Well, you, you right there with me.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm right there on your neck. No, I was 665306, I believe. 304 at the combine.
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Shannon Sharpe
Wow. So you knew. You knew. So what was if I'm not, I don't know what the record was. What was the record? What was the fastest 40 time for an offensive lineman before you broke it?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It was 4 8, 4.
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Shannon Sharpe
48 4. Wow. You didn't break it. You obliterated it.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I needed it. I needed it. I needed all that. I needed that, that my moment. I was on NFL Network.com NFL.com for like two hours. I needed all of it. So, so the scouts can go watch my film.
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Shannon Sharpe
Okay, so now you go run that 40 yard dash tie. You run 4, 7, 1. And that's really the order. Yeah, they want you to jump high. Yeah. They want you to do too. But speed is what captivates their attention. Now you and offensive lineman, you never going to be able to unwind that four seven one again. But you just want to put that on tape to let them see. Look, you got a phenomenal athlete. Yes, I went to Arkansas. Pine Bluff. Yeah, I know you're going to downgrade me talking about who did I block and who did I play against. But I'm gonna come and showcase my skills and let you see. And then the chips fall where they may. So when you ran that time, did you know, like, okay, I got their undivided attention I'm about to get drafted.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh yeah, no, for sure. We have special talents down in these HBCUs all across the country. We do. So I just needed the opportunity to showcase my skill. I knew what time it was. I was going for the vertical record too. I missed that by half an inch. So like I knew that I was gonna be able to make that splash. And like I say again, I needed it. I really needed that chance to get all the scouts just to watch my film. I wouldn't ask for no favors, but just check out the film and see the dominance.
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Tom Brady
Yeah. Now also, when I look at the offensive line position, as fast as you were, you know, as far as running the 40, did you have an advantage as far as your footwork goes when it came to playing offensive line as well? Because most of the time, obviously, you know, playing offensive line is all about your hand placement and your footwork and we always being, being balanced.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Sure.
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Tom Brady
Did that give you the advantage?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. No. My athleticism, my agility, those were my strengths when I played throughout my 12 year career. Because 65304, not the biggest tackle, not necessarily the strongest either, but I'm on your ass soon as the ball snapped, you know what I mean? A lot of jump sets, I had to use that in my game. So finding ways to play to my strength, that I was using my speed.
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Shannon Sharpe
Were you always an offensive lineman? Cause I mean that kind of fast twitch, you might have been a, you might have been a tight end at some point in time in your career. Were you always an offensive lineman?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, back in my hometown, Cahokia, Illinois, we're known for speed. That's what we do, we run. So I was a defensive lineman and offensive lineman, but I would go play seven on seven with the guys. Corner, safety, receiver.
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Shannon Sharpe
Damn.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Really? Yeah. Really was like that. Really was like that. I can't do that shit no more. But I really was like that. I can't move like that no more.
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Shannon Sharpe
Ocho, look, you mentioned, you say so you what, 34. 34 right now to 35.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
33.
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Shannon Sharpe
33. Taron. You walk away from the game, you're only 33 lineman normally played in at 36, 37, 38. We saw Jackie Slater play 20 years.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
And he retired at 40 plus. And we see lineman especially. I don't know your injury history. That's why, that's why I'm going with this. Why walk away from the game and all that cheddar out there. You see that?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Money, facts. It is, it's a, it's A lot of freshly printed money out there, for sure.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, it is. Yes, indeed.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I got, man, God bless me with so many great moments and. And great years and a great career. My injury history is extensive. It is. Yes, it is. It is long and I've been through it. And that's really the part for me is my body. You know, I love this game. I. Mentally, cerebrally, I can play the game forever, you know, but it's just physically. And I'm okay with saying that my body is slowing down its movements and abilities, that I just can't perform at the same level. And I take so much pride in my film. Yeah, man, it has to look a certain way. Like every time I step on the field, it has to look Pro Bowl, All Pro. Like, that's the brand I wanted to leave. So that's the standard. I never want to look like I'm out there getting my. Getting whooped on. That ain't. That can't happen.
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Tom Brady
You know what? It takes a lot. It takes a lot of awareness, self awareness at that, for a player of your caliber or any player that's played in the NFL that's played at a high level to understand when it's time to call it quits. Most of the time. We'll ride. We'll ride the. Ride the car to the wheels fall off, you know, but no regard for. You know what? I don't look the same. At what moment did you realize that, you know what? I really don't have it to play at an All Pro or Pro bowl level anymore. What moment did it hit you?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, I've been dealing with a knee since my third year in the league, but it's been with me for my entire career. So, man, just. I'll speak on this year alone, I didn't see a practice field, like, at all. And not because I didn't want to or the Dolphins just wanted me to rest. It's like I literally couldn't walk, you know, I couldn't after a game on Sunday, I wouldn't be able to walk on my own, you know, under my own power until Wednesday, Thursday. So I was only able to play under, under. Under the pain meds. I couldn't put any pressure on my knee, so it was like, I can't keep doing that to myself, man. We. We.
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Shannon Sharpe
It comes at 33 and you now you get to be 40 and all of a sudden you're like, man, what? My liver shutting down, my kidneys and all the other things from taking those pain medicine. Because I know I'VE seen. I've seen Lyman have to take Vicodin just to practice. I get the game. I get the game. I really do. Because, you know, hey, that's once a week. But the practice. Oh, hell yeah.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. No, that's crazy. And that's what that was the norm for sure. I didn't. I didn't want to fall in that cycle.
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Shannon Sharpe
Right. But the thing is, as Ocho was saying, it takes a space because to the layperson, they don't. They don't. They don't. They don't really see what. You know. And the thing is, is that when you. It's kind of hard to let go and not practice because as an offensive lineman, sets are everything. Whether you going to jump, whether you, hey, hey, lazy feet, don't eat. And the thing is, you got to practice that during the course of a week. It's hard for an offensive lineman to just go out there on a Sunday, jump, set, quick, set a stab, whatever the case may be. And just to go. And you going against the best of the best.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You said it. You said it. The reps, especially for offensive line play, we everything. So based on technique and time and all the hand placement and not to mention the cohesiveness of everyone, because we're the only unit that never comes off the field outside of the quarterback, that's one person, but we're the only unit that never comes off the field. So that chemistry and timing is really tough. Not getting those practice reps and then preparing mentally for Max Crosby and Miles Gary, and that ain't cool. Like, that's not okay.
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Shannon Sharpe
You got. I can't keep doing that with tjy.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Listen, I'm not about to keep doing that, man, with no practice. Like, come on, man.
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Shannon Sharpe
Because like I said, you talk about your offense, Tyron, you talk about your teeth. Excuse me, you talk about your offensive lineman. And like, okay, they get somebody else in there to practice it. But you and that left guard, y' all need to be cohesive. Y' all need to like, be on the same level and pass it off. Because if you're on different levels, guy, go hit that crack. And now everybody like, man, that y' all hate your. But see, you might be a little slow, he might have been a little fast. And now all of a sudden you give up a sack when y' all should have had that situation covered. I know, I look and everybody doesn't do it the same because I remember practicing with Gary Zimmerman, who's a. Who's a two decade all decade player. In the 80s and the 90s he went to the hall of Fame. But he didn't like, he didn't like me to chip block. He didn't like the chip. He like, don't touch him. Yeah, he said, cuz if I, if I jump said him and you hit him, you're gonna knock him inside. And now I can't get him and everybody gonna think I got beat. So don't touch it.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Facts. Yeah, no, that's a real thing. Especially, especially if you have a big physical tight end like, like yourself. So like you hitting them too hard. He getting momentum, he getting like a jolt into the, to the inside. Move. You know what? I got him. Just get out the way.
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Shannon Sharpe
Get open.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Go get open.
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Shannon Sharpe
Jonathan Jo. Now I played with Jonathan Ogden, who's the first Battle hall of Famer. He like, hey, knock him down. Knock him out if you can.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
For me, it depend on who it is, man. Who, who over there.
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Shannon Sharpe
Exactly. But you, like you said starting offensive lineman, they want some, I mean, hey, stick and stay or some guys like don't touch him. But like you said, that practice like for an offensive lineman and seeing like, like I said, I've worked with Garrett Zim for like four years, worked with Jo for two years and to see what they go through because they're working on their sets, they kicking. Am I going to stab him, am I going to quick set him, Am I going to jump set him? What, what am I going to do? And now in the game, man, I want to jump set, but. That knee bother you? Nah, I can't, I can't see. I can't do what I want. The mind say that body said, brothers, you do that.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Everybody say, you can't do that. No, you can't do it no more.
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Tom Brady
When it came to playing the left tackle position, I think about my approach to playing receiver. When it came to dbs and studying each DB every week and understanding what type of DB I'm going against. You got some that are quick, some that are fast, somebody physical somebody, some that, you know, play off or whatever it may be. What was your approach when it came to playing defensive ends each week? Was your approach different as far as, from a technical standpoint? Did you change up things you did depending on who you were playing that week?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, I've always said this, Ocho, that it's a lot of parallels to me, a lot of similarities between O line tackling, DN and receiver and corner.
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Tom Brady
Yes, sir.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Like that one on one matchup. It's a lot of dynamics There, that's parallel to me, the technique that goes into it. Tendencies, like you said. Is he pressing if I jab inside, what are you doing with his hands? Same thing as I'm reading the defensive end. I'm looking at their alignment first, how wide is he getting? And then it get off. You know, how well is he timing the snap? Then I want to see his home runs. What's his go to move that he's consistently winning on? What's he's winning on the most? I break that down. That's the one I want to take away. I want to take that one away. And then. All right, what's his second highest percentage move? The counting. I'm taking those top two away right throughout my career. That was the. The goal, my objective of game planning. I want to take them top two winners away. Now, if you beat me with a third, you, you. You're a bad man, but you know, you're gonna have to get that. But for me, I was taking those top two top two moves away.
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Tom Brady
Yeah. And one of the things that I've always liked to ask players that. That once they're done playing, who gave them the most fits? For me, you know, everybody asked me all the time, listen, you played a very long time. You've gone against some I've always know, had to deal with the number one db and everyone asked, you know, who gave you fits. And obviously the one person I say every time that 2009. Yeah, hell, he lock everybody up.
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Shannon Sharpe
But super strong, ask you about nobody else but you. You see how you did that.
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Tom Brady
He talk. Listen, we, we.
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Shannon Sharpe
Hey, but.
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Tom Brady
But who gave you fits or you just want to give them their flowers?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You know, man, I had some battles. I had some of these guys I've seen too many times. Like, I didn't. I didn't want to have these rivalries going on, but, you know, that's how the schedule go. I played Miles a ton. Miles is always one of those. He's one of those, you gotta. You can make sure you eat breakfast like he's. He. He's one of those for sure. But the guy that gave me the most fits, and I probably seen him the most, and he is still underrated in my eyes. Robert Quinn.
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Shannon Sharpe
Robert Quinn.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, that first devil Quinn, he been in that edge. He. Listen, Robert Quinn, he got. He probably got the most sacks on me, like out of everybody, he's the person that say, I got two on T Stadt. Like, he probably that one person that can say that, right?
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Tom Brady
Okay.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That dude gang. He Yeah, I don't even want to see him post career. I don't want to see him no more.
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Shannon Sharpe
I'm cool.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We can't be friends. Nothing. I don't want to run into Robert Quinn.
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Shannon Sharpe
It's really like a dance because like you said, they getting that wide. They getting that. They get into that wide nine. And now. Hey, you like? Okay, I know he gonna come wide, but what if he dropped and bull me? Okay, now he gonna hit me, and then he spin inside. So I got. I got all that going into. I gotta look at him. Okay, what is he doing now? I'm kicking. I can only kick so far. Cause the damn quarterback right there. Hell, I keep kicking, I'm gonna be in this damn lap. So I can all again, probably like, two kicks. D. And then I got the set, and I gotta take. Hey, I gotta be. I don't want him to get. I don't want him to bend the edge on me because these. Like you said, miles can be.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Miles can be also.
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Shannon Sharpe
I also don't want him to wax on. Wax off me, across my face.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Nah, all that. We trying to process all that, man. And they lining up in this wide nine, and these athletes are only getting. They're only getting bigger, faster, stronger.
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Tom Brady
Yeah.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So it's. Man, it's tough to deal with. Like, Micah playing Micah Parsons for the first time. It was Christmas Day, we in Miami, beautiful day. We smacked the Cowboys. That ain't part of the story. But seeing Michael Parsons for the first time in real life, it was different, bro. Like, you are. You are way too big to be moving as fast. It can bend that well. Like. Yeah, it just.
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Colin Cowherd
The.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The athlete. The evolution of the athlete is just. It's becoming something. Something different, man. Cool. I'm cool, y' all.
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Shannon Sharpe
It's special watching, you know, playing against Derek Thomas, but the guy that I had the most respect for, I only played against him for two years because I was only in Baltimore two years. I've never seen a guy his size that quick.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Jabon the freak, man.
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Shannon Sharpe
Freak. The first time I played him.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, man.
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Shannon Sharpe
Hey. I turned him. I said, hey, y' all better throw it. He was gone.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Look out, Block.
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Shannon Sharpe
He took a step down because I had to step. So I stepped with him, man. By the time I put my foot down, he was on my shoulder.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's a bad shot.
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Shannon Sharpe
He get to your shoulder and you ain't extended. Hey, you might well kiss the baby.
- [20:28]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's a bad feeling. That's a bad feeling.
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Tom Brady
Hey, uncle. Hey, uncle. You saw the Picture. I just saw Javon Curson airport leaving Philly day before yesterday.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh, did you?
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Tom Brady
Yeah, man.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh, he got that before he hurt the ankles. Ocho dude was. I'm talking about. You talking about somebody like he, like, 6, 4, 2, 50. I'm talking about all. I'm talking about 5x gloves. I mean, his hands were like a ketchup. Yeah.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Did. Did curse get in the. Did he get into the hall?
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Shannon Sharpe
Nah, nah, nah. He. He was. I mean, Tennessee. He was at Tennessee. His best years was at Tennessee. Yeah, he goes to Philly, and then he had. He messed up his ankle and messed up his years. But, hey, back in the day, you know, dealing with DT Bruce Smith was fast, too. Bruce could be in for a guy his size. Normally, guys, 270, they can't bend like that. Bruce be parallel to the ground. That move that you see Von Miller do where he dip under and come down on one hand and get back up.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Bruce could do that at 270.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. So, hey, that's why you guys make the big bucks. That's why I pay on the offensive line, because you guys got the toughest assignment, because you're dealing with. Like I said, basically, it's like Ginger Rogers and Fred Astaire. He's coming forward, but you got to mirror what he does moving backwards.
- [21:57]
Tom Brady
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
And the thing is, you got a target that's sitting right there and basically everybody in the shotgun now. So you can only set so far before he sits your ass in the quarterback's lap or he'll reach over the top of you and Greg.
- [22:14]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
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- [26:00]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We need it.
- [26:00]
Shannon Sharpe
All right, check this out. Saquan Barkley is coming off his best year of his career, which ending in him becoming a Super bowl champion with the Eagles. And now he's gracing the COVID of Madden 26. Saquon was asked if he would retire at the top of his game or go into the wheels came off. I'll probably be one of those guys that would be out of nowhere. I'll probably just wake up one day, whether it's the next year or two or four and just be like, yeah, it's over. I don't think I'll ever lose that passion. The competitive nature is always going to be there. I like probably my favorite player of all time is Barry Sanders. So probably similar to that. Maybe one day like out of nowhere, I'll probably just be balling and just be like, yeah, it's a quiz. D. Damn. We just talked about that because your situation, you just like out of nowhere, like yeah, yeah.
- [26:48]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Not, not as sudden really. The ones in the inner circle, they, they knew the situation and I was trying to push through. I was looking for options to continue, but it's just, it's over for sure. Like I knew it. Not as sudden as, like Barry Sanders or, or Calvin Johnson. Saquon is incredible hall of Fame talent. For sure. It'd be a he, he can't walk away all, all of a sudden he. We need, we need to see some more of that man. That's a special talent.
- [27:13]
Shannon Sharpe
What the difference is between them situation and Calvin and Barry, they got tired of losing, all right.
- [27:18]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
For sure.
- [27:19]
Shannon Sharpe
Situation where he's, I mean, you just went to the super bowl, now you start to lose. But Barry, Barry got to the NFC championship game in 91 and never got that close again. So Barry got tired of losing. Barry wasn't injured. I mean, you talking about. The guy had averaged 1,500 yards for 10 seasons.
- [27:35]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, for sure.
- [27:36]
Shannon Sharpe
To go Calvin, the same thing. Calvin like, bro, man, we ain't getting no closer. And I'm going out here and I'm doing all this to my body. What am I really doing this for when I don't really have a realistic chance of getting to and winning a Super Bowl. So I think that's the difference. Saquon is in a different situation now. If he was at the Giants. Yeah, he probably just go, like, one day I'm out of here. But in the situation where he is without offensive line, without offense, with that defense. Nah, I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't think he just walks away.
- [28:10]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Money different, too.
- [28:11]
Tom Brady
Yeah, I mean, obviously different. And obviously he just got paid to give him a nice, nice, nice, nice.
- [28:17]
Shannon Sharpe
20 mil a year. Ocho.
- [28:19]
Tom Brady
Nice pay raise.
- [28:20]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes, sir.
- [28:21]
Tom Brady
Equan for a running back for that position, obviously with a position not as being as valued as it is now, but being somewhere now where they appreciate you for what you're doing and they showed you love. I don't see Saquon retiring until he has that. That coming to. Coming to grass moment, you know?
- [28:37]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right.
- [28:37]
Tom Brady
I can't do it like I used to.
- [28:39]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's a fact.
- [28:39]
Tom Brady
I don't have that.
- [28:40]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I said the same way.
- [28:41]
Tom Brady
Oh. I think that'd be the only time he actually called it quits. When he realized is, you know what? I can't get. I can't bend that corner like I used to. I can't hit. I can't hit that. A. But that'd be a C gap. That'd be it. And that. That ain't. How old is saquon? Huh?
- [28:57]
Shannon Sharpe
Probably 26, 27, 28. Just turned 28. But here's the thing, though. Ocho.
- [29:05]
Tom Brady
Yeah.
- [29:06]
Shannon Sharpe
Lane Johnson still there. My lotto still there.
- [29:09]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [29:09]
Shannon Sharpe
Jurgensen still there. Still there. So it's not like you see some of these. Some of these guys, the offensive line get old and they starting to move them out. That's the best offensive line in football. They're not going. It's not like they're about to drop off a cliff in the next year or two. And they got them all in the contract. They just did Lane's contract. They just did my Lotta's contract. Just did. Dickerson contract. It was on a rookie contract. Nah, he ain't going anywhere anytime soon.
- [29:38]
Tom Brady
Well, you know, it's funny when you think about it. As good as Saquon is and as good as that Offensive line is. Even if Saquon was to lose a step, let's say it may be maybe in three years, if that. With an offensive line like that, he will still be able to do what he need to do because yet that much better up front.
- [29:57]
Shannon Sharpe
So he won't be able to go 80 yards with anybody without anybody touching him. So now he might have to break a tackle two yards from the line of scrimmage as opposed to running through those holes that I. My old slow ass could probably get five yards. I ain't gonna hit my head on the goal post like him, but I might get 5 yards, T. I give.
- [30:13]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
About 3 or 4 yards, fall forward. I give about 3, 4.
- [30:17]
Shannon Sharpe
Them. Them legs hurt. I can imagine. Now I ain't. I. I hadn't gotten hit on and mad in two decades. Yeah, I shatter like ice. You know how you drop ice out of the cup?
- [30:29]
Tom Brady
You gotta remember they not hitting like we was back then. Now it's different.
- [30:32]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, they don't know. I don't forgot how to take a hit. You see, you. You. Hey, you start lose. Hey, you know how it is, T. When you go. Like when you leave the season and you come back and you gotta go to training camp, you got to relearn those stuff.
- [30:47]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, yeah, that's a fact.
- [30:48]
Shannon Sharpe
Don't tingle like they did. Like, once you get going, like training camp and now you go to the season. They don't tingle them. And not 20 years, man, I'd be getting. Hey, I run them the shallow cross. It's a zone.
- [31:00]
Tom Brady
You running through the wall.
- [31:02]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, they gonna get fine. They gonna get fine, though. They might hit you, but.
- [31:06]
Shannon Sharpe
But I won't be fine. They might get fine, but I won't be fine.
- [31:10]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's a word. That's a word for sure. Yo, Ocho, you switched it up on me, man. You usually have on the Cartier shades. I got seven pair of Cartier shades over here. I was gonna be Ocho tonight, and you didn't real.
- [31:21]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, let me hold pair.
- [31:23]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Come on now.
- [31:24]
Tom Brady
Let me see what you got. What you got?
- [31:25]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You know what I mean? We in there. I'm Ocho right now.
- [31:27]
Tom Brady
Hey, hey, listen, listen. I keep wearing the same ones over and over. I'm trying to say the rest of them. You know, for football season, when I'm on tv, I got car frames, right? I got a different color to match each suit.
- [31:40]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
All right? Yeah, that's a different brand.
- [31:44]
Tom Brady
I gotta send you dude information right off of Twitter. He from Canada, bruh. He got everything I Need it.
- [31:51]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I need. I need. I'm still. Put mine back on. We gonna get right. I'm gonna.
- [31:56]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, gonna put them things on.
- [31:58]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We gonna switch them up.
- [31:59]
Shannon Sharpe
Shadour says that when he's a vet, he'll have rookie organize his locker. Take a listen. Take a look at this video, guys. I'm a bet what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna have a rookie organize my locker every day before he leave. If Flacco told me to do this every day, I would do it. I go to him every day and I said, hey, bro, you good? You need anything, write him because it's respect. You feel me?
- [32:25]
Tom Brady
I feel that.
- [32:29]
Shannon Sharpe
So when you came in as a rookie, what did the vets have you do?
- [32:33]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Toron events were pretty. Pretty good to me, man. Jerry Evans, Ben Grubb, Zach Streep, those guys were pretty good to me.
- [32:40]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [32:40]
Tom Brady
Yeah.
- [32:40]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
- [32:41]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Get them breakfast every Saturday, Food for the plane, Snacks, toiletries. I had to bring that type stuff to the facility. Deodorant, body wash, all that good stuff. So trying to find a ride to Walmart, because Uber didn't exist in. In 2013. So trying to find a ride to Walmart, get the stuff for the guys, and haul it into the facility. But they were. They were pretty. They were pretty smooth on me.
- [33:05]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, that's what it was. I mean, they want breakfast, sandwiches, they wanted donuts, they wanted chicken to come, they wanted Popeyes to come to the plane. I'm like, come on, guys. Y' all. Y' all know, man, and back then, you know, we drove. We know we drove. Drove to the airport, but we had our own hangar. So you drive up, go get on the. Walk up and get on the plane, man. You know, man, I was driving so fast, driving reckless, man, trying. Listen, rookie contract, man, I can't. I can't afford no 1200. Fifty. Hundred fine, man. Damn.
- [33:38]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [33:39]
Tom Brady
Yeah, I remember them days. Our wide receiver group. I mean, obviously the vets. When I came in as a rookie in Cincinnati, man, it was love, you know, there was a certain amount of respect that I showed and a certain amount of respect that they showed as well. But you remember Darnay Scott?
- [33:54]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I do. Yeah.
- [33:55]
Tom Brady
Hey, Darnay Scott. Danny Farmer was there at the time. Ron Dugan.
- [34:00]
Shannon Sharpe
Pdub.
- [34:01]
Tom Brady
Pdub was there, and it was all love. It was nothing to that magnitude. Like some of the stories that I heard.
- [34:07]
Shannon Sharpe
Nah, we.
- [34:08]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We think the receiver room have the hardest time with that. The receiver room is always that. That.
- [34:15]
Shannon Sharpe
Be trying to book the receiver.
- [34:16]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Be trying to book it's it's always a hard time with that. We had a situation in Miami last year. Not a big situation, but Tyreek. Tyreek Hill had bought one of the rookies a Christmas gift, and the rookie didn't like it. Really? Like, no. I mean, it's cool. But, you know, you tight. You tell me. I expected. You give me something better, you know, something bigger, you make it 30 Ms. A year. You know what I'm saying? And Tyreek was really hurt by that. Like, he was really upset that the guy.
- [34:45]
Tom Brady
Hey, what did he get him?
- [34:47]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm trying to remember. It was like. It was like a. Like a Gucci cologne set or something like that. Some type of designer cologne set. And this. This young boy, he 21 years old in Miami, man, he probably won't even had no clothing wear, no cologne. He don't want that. He wanted Tyreek Devon something with a little bit more. A little more splash to it. Yeah, that was.
- [35:09]
Shannon Sharpe
You know, you gotta sing at. At training camp. And not no damn fight song either, right? Ain't nobody go to your school but you. So you gotta sing something. Whoever the latest is now. Like, probably not to be Kendrick Lamar, Drake, or whomever the hot rapper is right now. Back then, you know, R and B was still big when I was coming up and guys singing Teddy Pitt. The guys were singing. Luther was singing Barry White. Hey, they did the thing y' all have. Did y' all have a rookie show, T?
- [35:38]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, for sure, for sure. Yeah. Mike McDaniel, he was. He was big on that. And Sean Payton was, too. Back in New Orleans, we would do the song. Most of the guys would do R B, Old school. R B. Yeah. I feel like the. And you guys probably have a different song, but I feel like that undefeated song, when the rookie starts singing it in that rookie show, the whole crowd gonna join in. Is Fantasia. When I see you, it's over yeah.
- [36:00]
Tom Brady
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [36:02]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He start that. You get to the first 30. He get through the first 30 seconds. He won because everybody gonna. Yeah.
- [36:09]
Tom Brady
Hey, you know what? That song. That song right there is like when the. The swag surfing song come on. It don't matter where you at or what you doing sure. Everybody joining in.
- [36:19]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, gonna grow. Yeah. You gotta crank somebody.
- [36:24]
Tom Brady
Everybody.
- [36:25]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, that'.
- [36:29]
Shannon Sharpe
New Orleans. What? Here we come to get you that was New Orleans. Bad New Orleans.
- [36:37]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, that Superdome used to rock, man. I missed. I missed them. I missed that place. I missed those fans. It was crazy.
- [36:46]
Tom Brady
Matter of fact, I think you went to Arkansas. Pine Bluff.
- [36:49]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes, sir.
- [36:50]
Tom Brady
As a matter of fact, when I was at Link, you know about Langston University, right? Yeah, yeah, we. When I was at Langston, we played Arkansas, Pine Bluff. They came up. They came on down. Was it Coil? So Stillwater? Whichever one it is. Back in 1990, 1997, we played Langston.
- [37:09]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
My freshman year, and Langston beat us, bro.
- [37:12]
Tom Brady
Real.
- [37:12]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It was bad. It was bad.
- [37:14]
Shannon Sharpe
I know y' all took the bus. Cause we took the bus everywhere. It didn't matter if it was three hours or if it was 12 hours. You on that bus.
- [37:20]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I was on that bus. He was on that bus. Paired up and.
- [37:25]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, see, and the way we did it is like the starting offense and the starting defense on one bus and then the backups on another bus.
- [37:38]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We did offensive.
- [37:39]
Shannon Sharpe
No. Hell no. Starting from one bus and the backups on another bus. What the hell you be doing if.
- [37:47]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You ride the bench? You ride this bus, huh?
- [37:48]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, you're right. Exactly.
- [37:50]
Tom Brady
Talking about segregation.
- [37:52]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, yeah. That's crazy. How they supposed to get better, man? They can't sit and talk to none of y' all.
- [37:58]
Shannon Sharpe
Cause we back there playing cards, you know, spades, we playing cards. We, we, you know, hey.
- [38:02]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, yeah.
- [38:03]
Shannon Sharpe
One at the back. The back of the bus. You know what I'm saying? We act. As a matter of fact, we wanted to go to the back of the bus. But, hey, all of us, it wasn't nothing special because all of us was black. We had what. Our kicker was white. So it wasn't. It was no thing. And I'm sure it's the same thing with you guys. Did y' all have a white kicker or punter?
- [38:21]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Both. White kicker and punter. That's it. Oh, yeah. And a linebacker. We had a. Yeah, we had a linebacker, too. He was a bad man.
- [38:29]
Shannon Sharpe
But that's what, you know. But you. You missed that. I missed, you know, taking over, you know, going to Tuskegee. Going to where?
- [38:37]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The.
- [38:38]
Shannon Sharpe
Burlington, North Carolina. Just you, you know, you. You taking the bus. I mean, it ain't no, you know, playing. It doesn't matter if it was, like I said, if it was an hour to Georgia Southern and Statesboro or you going to Tuskegee or you going to North Carolina, it didn't matter. Spartanburg, South Carolina, it didn't matter. You on that bus.
- [38:55]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, we would take. We take that 10 hour bus ride to Houston for Prairie View, Texas Southern. We'll take the 10 hour bus ride to Alabama A and M, Alabama State. My first flight in my life was. We got paid to come play UTEP so we flew down to UTEP they paid us to beat on us.
- [39:14]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, well, that was my first time. I'm trying to say what if. Oh, first time on the flight, I think I went to black college. All American. I think I went to Pittsburgh. I think maybe I flew to see my brother play.
- [39:31]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, yeah.
- [39:32]
Shannon Sharpe
But other. Nah. But no, you wouldn't take it. You would, but you missed that, because guess what? We could stop by a convenience store. They like, man, the guy was like. Because I was. I was the. I was a capitalist. D. So the man like, man shot, man, I'm hungry, man. Have Coach Davis to stop by the. Stop by the convenience store. I'm like, I like, Coach, man, I'm hungry, Coach. Can we stop by a convenience store? Coach David looked at me and said, all right, home, we gonna stop. But you responsible for them. He already know what they were gonna do. Yeah, they gonna clean the store out.
- [40:02]
Tom Brady
Oh, y' all. Y' all had that nil money back then.
- [40:04]
Shannon Sharpe
No, we had no nil money. That's why he told me I was responsible for him to make sure they issue their pockets. That's why he told me I'm responsible for.
- [40:14]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [40:14]
Shannon Sharpe
And I'm standing to the door. Hey, take it out. How that don't look.
- [40:26]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He ain't stop everybody. Ocho.
- [40:27]
Shannon Sharpe
I. I did.
- [40:28]
CJ Gardner-Johnson
Yeah.
- [40:29]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You ain't see everything, but I tell you.
- [40:30]
Shannon Sharpe
But let me tell you what I wouldn't do. Cause I was one of the few guys that had a vehicle. And people like, man, to this day, they're like, man, Sean wouldn't give nobody a ride, bro. I know who had stuff would follow him out the store. I know who a bag of potato chips, soda, Honey buns, Ish. Would follow you walk out the store behind you. So, no, you're not getting to my car. Cause everybody knew who I was and what I drove, man. I just know. They got in the car with Shannon. It was Shannon Sharp. They ain't gonna say nothing else. It was Shannon Sharp. Oh, no.
- [41:02]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Even if he had a little. Little honey bun, he gonna slide me a little switch roll or something.
- [41:06]
Shannon Sharpe
He. $3, but he gonna come out of there with $5 worth of stuff, so.
- [41:12]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, he got something for you.
- [41:14]
Shannon Sharpe
No, they didn't. No. Oh, no. In the mall. Never going to the mall with him. Absolutely not.
- [41:21]
Tom Brady
Yeah.
- [41:22]
Shannon Sharpe
T, what do you think about the locker room this season with Tua going through his third and fourth major concussion? How do. I mean, look, you can do all you can to try to protect the guy, but at some Point in time, he's got to protect himself. He has to know when the journey's over. You can't. At no situation should he be allowed. I don't know what he was thinking. That you gonna go head. That you gonna go head first on somebody knowing your history.
- [41:45]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
- [41:46]
Shannon Sharpe
No, he.
- [41:46]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He definitely. He has to be aware. There's no question about it. And he is aware. But even more. And now it has to be proven on a weekly basis that he understands an impact to the, to the team, to the franchise, to the city. Without Tua under center, it's a different. It's a different team, it's a different look. But with him under, under center, I strongly believe Miami Dolphins can win any game, that he's a starting quarterback. So. No, you're, you're absolutely.
- [42:14]
Shannon Sharpe
When it gets 30 degrees.
- [42:16]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, here we go. Let's get it. Let's get into it. Let's get into it.
- [42:22]
Shannon Sharpe
Go ahead. But with Tua. Go ahead with Tua.
- [42:24]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. No, he has to know that. He has to know how much of a value piece he is and whatever it needs to do. But just knowing the guy, knowing how much he loved the game and the way that he prepares, man, it's that competitiveness against Buffalo this year. We're stagnant offensively. We get a drive going and he's trying to extend on the third down and try to get another first down. It's just. He can't be the one to do it. You know what I mean? But it's just him being a competitor trying to wield a team.
- [42:51]
Tom Brady
Yeah. I think I talked uncle and I talked about his last year sometime when he went out. I just think he has to learn to fall a little better. Understanding when to especially. I remember that first down where he went head first. He still got. He got up, but it was like one of the moments where you'd be.
- [43:07]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Like, ah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Hold your breath moment.
- [43:12]
Shannon Sharpe
You got to know when the journey's over.
- [43:13]
Tom Brady
Yeah. Knowing when the journey's over and then when he gets hit, knowing how to fall correctly, you know, especially when you go. When you go back and you don't try to do your best. I know it's hard, but I was. It's something that I trained myself to do, is when you get tackled, you're going backwards. Try not to let your head hit the back. The back of the back of the ground as hard as it does. What I used to do is if I get hit hard and I know it's backwards or I'M going backwards. I would tighten my core and try to keep my head upright the best I can. The best I can. Just so I don't get that boom. That, that. That initial shock which caused.
- [43:49]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's the one, though. The one that you falling back, hit the head. That's the one. That's. That's. Yeah, that's the one.
- [43:55]
Tom Brady
I do my best like I'm holding the ball, but I do my best as if I'm. As if. As if I'm bear hugging, dude. You know, in a sense, literally bear hugging. I'm just saying. Trying to keep my body and my upper body and torso as close to him as possible, even on impact, just so most of the force isn't the back of the head bouncing off.
- [44:15]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. How you feel about them guys on the sideline that they. They jump out of bounds or are you trying to fall for a few more yards? What you. What you think about that?
- [44:25]
Shannon Sharpe
It all depends in his situation. He can't do it, not even on four because he's too valuable. He gets the first down and he gets dinged. What have you done? Okay, you got the first down. Now your backup has to come in and finish out the ball game.
- [44:38]
Tom Brady
Yeah.
- [44:38]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay.
- [44:39]
Shannon Sharpe
Prime example, Peyton Manning. Once Peyton Manning hurt that neck, they never let him do quarterback sneak again.
- [44:45]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [44:45]
Shannon Sharpe
If you notice, they don't let Patrick Mahomes. Since he hurt his knee, they don't let Patrick Mahomes do go straight into the line of scrimmage. You see, you. You have to protect the guy.
- [44:54]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, that's a fact. That's a fact.
- [44:57]
Shannon Sharpe
They're not gonna let him do it. Obviously. You wouldn't do no tush push with Tua. But second of all, bro, you got slide. It's okay. It's okay to slide. I'm not looking at the quarterback. Oh, he tough for what? You're not used to taking those licks like that. And they looking to punish you because you don't have the protection of the pocket. Because once you leave that pocket, you a runner. So I'm gonna hit you like Derry Henry.
- [45:22]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Free game. Free game.
- [45:27]
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, you go from. You have Drew Brees for a number of years, and then you go from tour. What was it. What was it like? What was Breeze like?
- [45:38]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Breeze was a. Breeze was a killer, man. He was an assassin. He prepared like. Like a federal agent. He was. He prepared, man. Like, he's trying to build a case on everything that we. That we played, man. You would. You hear the cliche? First one in, last one to leave. But that was genuinely him. That was truly him. I would see him on those off days, man, he's preparing like none other. And you've seen it every week. And no matter the outcome of the game, too, this was the special part about him. No matter how he played individually or if it was a win or loss, he put the same amount of time in. He gave every team the same amount of attention and respect. Playing the Falcons twice a year. That second game, even though we just beat them by 15 two weeks ago, he's going to put those same amount of hours in. And that's why he was the greatest.
- [46:29]
Tom Brady
Hey, T, did you understand before, did you understand the animosity and the hatred that the Saints fans had for the Falcon fan? Did you know that?
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, I didn't. Honestly, I didn't. I didn't know that was such a thing. But I quickly adopted it. Quickly adopted. Quickly. Like, I hate them, folks. Still.
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Tom Brady
I think I found. For real, listen. I think I found out maybe two or three years ago. And here I go. Trying to have a kumbaya moment. Trying to get fans ain't happening, you know, Become one of the game, you know? Yeah, like, man, f. No, like, no, I'm talking about, like, for real. I'm thinking they, you know, I think they playing around on Twitter, man. Then people say, like, this is really. I really hate them people.
- [47:12]
Shannon Sharpe
Like, yeah, they do not mess with the same Saints fans. Do not mess with Falcon fans. And Falcon fans, you best believe they don't ever. They don't.
- [47:20]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
With no Saints fans. Yeah, no, I hate them, too.
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Tom Brady
That serious. I had no idea.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I didn't either, Ocho. But like I said, I quickly adopted it. I still hate them to this day. Like, I'm not rocking with the Falcons ever.
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- [50:37]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
NBC Nightly News Legacy isn't handed down or NBC News.
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Colin Cowherd
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Shannon Sharpe
I'm Lester Holt. It's carried forward. Tom Yamatz is there for us. Firefighters are still working around the clock. As the world changes, we look for what endures. We are coming on the air with breaking news right now. We look for a constant and from one era to the next. Trust is the anchor for NBC Nightly News, I'm Tom Yacht. A new chapter begins NBC Nightly News with Tom Yamas.
- [51:05]
Tom Brady
Evenings on NBC.
- [51:14]
Shannon Sharpe
Laces on leather ranked the NFL atmosphere from best to worst. What do you think the best atmosphere NFL atmosphere is? What do you think the best one is?
- [51:27]
Tom Brady
Honestly? Hey, uncle, it got to be between Kansas City and Seattle.
- [51:32]
Shannon Sharpe
Kansas City got to be. Kansas City is number one. Okay, I'll go through the top 10. The Chiefs are one. Packers are two. Three. Hawks are three. Vikings are four. Ravens are five. Bills are six. Lions are seven. Saints are eight. Patriots are nine. Cowboys are 10. I don't know how Cowboys made it because they ain't got no home field advantage. Like they lose all the time.
- [52:02]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, no, for sure. The stadium nice, though. I think it's just rating the stadium, ranking the stadium for the Cowboys, I don't think it's.
- [52:08]
Shannon Sharpe
It's gotta be.
- [52:09]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Talking about the environment, I was shocked.
- [52:11]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm shocked to see the Saints lost like six games last year at home.
- [52:14]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Yeah. Nah, Cowboys don't got. They don't really have a. Unless they're. Unless they're winning. Their fans that show up and there's so many people in that stadium, you will hear it. I'm shocked to hear that that New Orleans was. Was so low on that list. That Superdome is crazy.
- [52:28]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, but y' all, y' all, y' all been. Y' all been. Y' all been struggling. Y' all been on hard. Y' all been some lean years.
- [52:33]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, so this is. This is last year's, like, best.
- [52:35]
Shannon Sharpe
No, but I'm just saying, look. Yeah, I give y' all credit. Now, y' all, y' all be making some noise. Cause I remember Katrina when y' all would. Y' all. Y' all played in San Antonio. I think it was in San Antonio when they came back, blocked that punt on that Monday night game against the Falcons.
- [52:52]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Rebirth.
- [52:52]
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, you could literally hear it through the television.
- [52:55]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
- [52:55]
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, it was I don't know. And Sean Payton and all the people said they've never heard it that loud before or since that night.
- [53:04]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, no, that. That was definitely a special moment. But during my tenure in New Orleans, we were always. It was us.
- [53:11]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, y' all was good.
- [53:12]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Kansas City, as far as, like, the loudest crowd noise. The Saints was always then near the top.
- [53:18]
Shannon Sharpe
And I'm not surprised that. I mean, look at this. A lot of these Seahawks. Well, Vikings dome, Lions dome, Saints dome, Cowboys dome. It's something about when you can get an outdoor arena and you get that kind of like the Chiefs have, like when I played the Broncos. Man, oh, my, how that thing be rocking. They that 76, 000 I'm talking about. They'd be going crazy. Poor charges right down here at the bottom.
- [53:49]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, Charges in.
- [53:51]
Tom Brady
Listen, I've been in some great atmospheres. I played at every stadium that's on here. And I. I honestly know one. Number two should be the Bengals. Honestly.
- [54:02]
Shannon Sharpe
Bus stop.
- [54:03]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Cut it out.
- [54:07]
Tom Brady
Listen. No, listen to me, T. Stay with me now, all right? Never been in the jungle, bro. You've never been in the jungle on a prime time game in Cincinnati.
- [54:16]
Shannon Sharpe
You see what you got to see what you had. You see how he preface the tea? A prime time game, second round of playoffs. It ain't got to be no prime time game. It can be any game. It could be a preseason game. It can be a note of where you scrimmaging against yourself under the lights, right? And they gonna be ruckus. That ain't what y' all do.
- [54:33]
Tom Brady
That's. That's what we do.
- [54:34]
Shannon Sharpe
That's what we know. No, it's not.
- [54:36]
Tom Brady
The culture over there has changed tremendously. You hear me? I was there. I was there when the light was on.
- [54:41]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I give you. I give you credit, Ocho. It is. It has. From my earlier years to now. I feel like now is a lot better atmosphere. They were. They all white.
- [54:50]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [54:50]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. It's rocking that Joe Burrow, the icy white. It's not in the top 10. Not in the top 10, though.
- [54:56]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Guess what? No, it's not at all. When they wear them icy whites, all you gonna do is see them. See. See them skid marks, cuz they gonna poop the bed. They already. That's all they gonna do is wet poop the bed, T. Ain't nothing going on. Popping off.
- [55:08]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's that Baltimore Raven coming out, hun. I know what that is. I know what that. That's that hatred y' all was asking me about from the Falcons and the Saint.
- [55:15]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, no, no, the hatred for y.
- [55:17]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The Steelers. Yeah, y' all Steelers.
- [55:18]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, the Steelers. No, we and us. For. In. In Denver. It was the. It was the Raiders, then the Chiefs.
- [55:24]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right? Yeah. I got you.
- [55:25]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [55:26]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Who was that?
- [55:27]
Shannon Sharpe
It was. It was. It was the Steelers.
- [55:29]
Tom Brady
I mean, during my time, it was the Ravens. Ravens and Steelers.
- [55:35]
Shannon Sharpe
It was bad y' all beef with KISS Cleveland. Cause y' all tried to see who owned Ohio.
- [55:41]
Tom Brady
Listen, I'm here worry about y' all during my time. During my time when we used to beat up on the Ravens and the Steelers.
- [55:51]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's it.
- [55:52]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, maybe you did. I was. I was long gone by.
- [55:56]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Go get them shots on, Ray. Middle of the field. You saw me. Yeah, I still put that shirt on him.
- [56:03]
Tom Brady
Put that thing on him, boy.
- [56:04]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, he put you down there.
- [56:07]
Tom Brady
I tripped. I tripped. I tripped.
- [56:10]
Shannon Sharpe
Cardinals, the Bears, the charges. So what you thinking, Ocho? What they. What they get right? What they get wrong?
- [56:16]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Who?
- [56:17]
Shannon Sharpe
I mean.
- [56:17]
Tom Brady
No, this about right, though.
- [56:18]
Shannon Sharpe
Who?
- [56:19]
Tom Brady
I'm not sure who made this list, but it's about right. You know, the funny thing about it is the fact that some of the dome teams are a little low. That's a testament to the fans in Seattle and Green Bay in Kansas City. And funny thing, the first thing I said before, as soon as you mentioned we were doing a ranking of best stadiums, I said Kansas City and Seattle right away. It's so goddamn loud to you?
- [56:43]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah. No, for sure.
- [56:44]
Tom Brady
I don't know if it's the way the stadium is built. I don't know what it is. It's like, dog, you be on the field and can't hear nothing.
- [56:51]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, no, for sure. The Seattle game, we played them our rookie year in the playoffs and, oh.
- [56:57]
Shannon Sharpe
That was Beast Bowl. The beef quake happened.
- [56:58]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, that wasn't that, man.
- [57:00]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, my bad.
- [57:01]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, that wasn't. I wasn't a part of that. I would have tripped him, but no. It's second round of the playoffs and Sean Payton. So we. We went up there, we kind of like battling for the number one seed, middle of the season. We played on Monday night. It's 28 to nothing. Immediately, first quarter, they smacked us. So when we go back in the playoffs, Sean Payton had all these custom earpieces made. Dead silence. So all week we wore these earpieces and we non verbally communicated every play, every snap count. And we got up there and we did it. It worked like a charm. As far as that, we still lost. Of course, they went on to win a Super Bowl. But it was that ochar. To your point. It was really. It was so loud, it. It, like, hurt. So we had these custom earpieces.
- [57:52]
Shannon Sharpe
With Kansas City. We did that with Kansas City. But the old Kingdome, before they built this stadium, they used to have a. They used to have a dome in Seattle called the Kingdome.
- [58:01]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. No, that. Didn't know that.
- [58:03]
Shannon Sharpe
They. Now it only hold about 60,000 ocho. But, boy, you talk about loud.
- [58:09]
Tom Brady
They be in there rocking, huh?
- [58:13]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Raining in Seattle. It's always raining in Seattle. Those people walking around sad all week, and they go in the stadium and scream. That's all it is. It's all the rain.
- [58:22]
Shannon Sharpe
The old. The Astrodome was like that steel. Oh, the house of pain. Used to call it the house of pain. They did well, you know, they had warm moon, they ran the running shoot, and they defense, man. Boy, but the Bills. The Bills is like the Bill Stadium. That's loud.
- [58:42]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They got it.
- [58:43]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know what they call it now. I don't know what they call it in mark or whatever they call it high mark or something, but it used to be called Rich Stadium. Ocho.
- [58:52]
Tom Brady
Yeah.
- [58:53]
Shannon Sharpe
Them jokers be talking about. Let's go, Buffalo.
- [58:56]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, a little bit. I'm not gonna lie. It's hard. Yeah, That's. That. That was one of my favorite places to play throughout my career.
- [59:04]
Shannon Sharpe
That energy jumping around. D, you better tell him.
- [59:07]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, no, it's hard. It's hard. They got a nice atmosphere up there.
- [59:10]
Tom Brady
Hey, Buffalo got some crazy fans.
- [59:15]
Shannon Sharpe
Wrestling, jumping on burnt tables.
- [59:17]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah. No, they. They got real football up there. Real football atmosphere.
- [59:22]
Tom Brady
You know what's funny too, T. When you think about it, Unk. Listen, Buffalo. Buffalo fans deserve their flowers anytime it comes to donating. You know, when other people. They have some.
- [59:33]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What?
- [59:33]
Tom Brady
Buffalo fans come through like no other.
- [59:36]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, that's a fact. That's a fact.
- [59:38]
Tom Brady
They always show love, man.
- [59:39]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They used to tragedy. They always lose, so they know how to handle losing well, you know what I mean? Like, they know how to get close, get to the door and get closed shut on them. So they used to lose, and they know how to handle it well.
- [59:55]
Shannon Sharpe
Really? Oh, so you good? Chiefs 1. Packers, Seahawks, Vikings, Ravens, Bills, Lions, Saints.
- [60:06]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Patriots, Cowboys, Saints too low.
- [60:09]
Shannon Sharpe
Saints too low.
- [60:10]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Saints too low.
- [60:10]
Shannon Sharpe
You think Saints should be in the top five.
- [60:15]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Real. Real Saints atmosphere. Top, top three environment.
- [60:19]
Tom Brady
Oh, whoa, wait, hold on. If the Saints top three environment, then Cincinnati would damn sure got to be.
- [60:24]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, it ain't even the same argument, Ocho. It ain't Even in the same.
- [60:28]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, no, I had played in this new stadium, but the old Metrodome. You played no Metronome, right, T. Crazy.
- [60:35]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Crazy. I hate them, too. Can't stand them.
- [60:43]
Shannon Sharpe
I played up there, man, when they had. They had Johnny Randall, they had Chris Dover, rest his soul. They had Keith Millard, they had Al Noga, and they had Henry Thomas. Hank. Boy, they had a defense out of this one. Yeah, boy, Boy, Boy, boy. And Floyd, that defense coordinator, I think it was Floyd Peters. Floyd Reese. Floyd Peters. What was Floyd's last name? I think it was Reese. Boy, you talking about come?
- [61:10]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Nope.
- [61:11]
Shannon Sharpe
Man, don't let him sack. Don't you let him sack that quarterback.
- [61:14]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
T. He was doing that stone. Yeah, yeah. No, for real.
- [61:24]
Shannon Sharpe
All right. Joining us right now. He just logged on. Fun fact. He one of the. One of your first athlete. The original music. Madden fan. Guys, he's been trying. We've been trying to get him on for a minute. We linked up a couple of weeks ago. He said, man, let me come on. And here he is, ladies and gentlemen, your favorite rapper's favorite rapper.
- [61:43]
CJ Gardner-Johnson
What's up? What's up?
- [61:44]
Tom Brady
Oh, yeah, what they do, bro?
- [61:47]
CJ Gardner-Johnson
Man, we living life, we blessed, we alive, man. I'm loving it, man. Happy to be here with y' all. Y' all know I'm a big fan of the. The Show. Shout out to. My good. My guy up there, man. Big dog. I'm not a Dolphins fan, but I'm a Dolphin supporter. I'm a Dolphin supporter. I got fam out, Miami, but shout out to you, man. Shout out to the whole crew.
- [62:04]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes, sir. Shout out to.
- [62:06]
Shannon Sharpe
You're from the bay, living in LA now. So were you a Raiders fan? You a 49ers fan?
- [62:14]
CJ Gardner-Johnson
I'm a Raider. You see the. The Niners to us, they like the. They like the Prima Donnas of the Bay. You know, they like that. They like the pretty girl at school. Everybody want the Raiders. We got in that gritting. Growing up, my mom was in real estate, so one of her first real estate deals was Lance Johnstone. When he came to the Raiders.
- [62:37]
Tom Brady
Yeah.
- [62:37]
CJ Gardner-Johnson
He used to give us tickets to the game. And my mom would always take me to the game. And then one of my close friends, Taiwan Jones, he was drafted to the Raiders from our high school, Deer Valley. So I always been a big Raider fan. Marshawn Lynch, Charles Woodson, you always been a big Raider fan, man.
- [62:56]
Shannon Sharpe
All right, we're gonna get you out of here. Cj. Gardner Johnson goes off on dc Big fangie on ig. I was a test dummy for them. So now they can be like, my scheme worked or did my skill set make it work? I had zero issues. People had issues with me. So, yeah, let the salary cap be the excuse. Big Fangio, he said that cj, Gardner Johnson trade was a salary cap issue, a salary cap thing. And I'm fine with it. Just don't let the young guys know like y' all did.
- [63:28]
CJ Gardner-Johnson
Damn.
- [63:30]
Tom Brady
Hey. What? What? Hold on. Now.
- [63:34]
Shannon Sharpe
Basically, he said the situation was a big fan of Joe, the defensive coordinator. He said the re. They traded him because it was a salary cap issue. Now, they didn't save a whole lot of money, maybe a couple of hundred thousand dollars, but moving forward. Cause you got who you got coming up. Ocho, you got that big dog up front.
- [63:53]
Tom Brady
Yeah.
- [63:53]
Shannon Sharpe
Jalen Carter.
- [63:55]
Tom Brady
Jalen Carter.
- [63:56]
Shannon Sharpe
It's going to take some bread, big bread. And then you got. You're going to have brother. You're going to have brother Mitchell, he gonna be coming up. You're gonna have Cooper Dijon, he gonna be coming up, right?
- [64:08]
Tom Brady
So they clean the house.
- [64:10]
Shannon Sharpe
So, you know, But I. It happened, bro. You got a ring. You got an opportunity to come back. You got a ring, and. And somebody wanted you. When somebody trades for you, T, let me know what you think about this. T, when somebody trades for you, they're telling you they want you. Okay? The other team didn't want me, but this new team traded for me. They gave up something to get me. So clearly they see the value in me, even if the whole team doesn't.
- [64:36]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Cj. Cj, he. He real passionate, man. He's. He's very vocal. That's. That's his. That's his. His biggest attribute, his passion. The way that he played a game is like. That's how he is off the field, too, though. He's. He's very. He's very vocal, very passionate. So if it's a way that he's feeling, you really can't convince him otherwise. So, like, even though that the Houston Texans did want to. They wanted him. They traded for him. They gave away compensation for him to be a part of their team. CJ's still gonna let the. Let Philly know how he feel. That's just. That's just how he is. That's how you are.
- [65:05]
Tom Brady
Yeah, Uncle. You know, I talked to C. I talked to CJ all the time, man. CJ and I are really close. Like. Like T said, he's very passionate about. Especially about the way the game. The game of football in general, the way it Is. And some of the things that, that, that he knows is going on. I, I think he allows that passion and love for the game. He forgets that it's business at the end of the day.
- [65:26]
Shannon Sharpe
Always has been, always will be. It's tough though. It's tough when you devote so much. You know, like you said, think about it, you getting out there and you can't walk until Wednesday. And you out there, Holland, and you doing everything you can to give them everything you can, and then they do something like this.
- [65:42]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So I treasure.
- [65:44]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I definitely get it.
- [65:49]
CJ Gardner-Johnson
Something I wanted to ask all three of you guys, like, what's it, what is it like kind of being married to a situation, you may have bought a home in this city or whatever it may be, you raised a family here and because it's time to blow it up and we want to get younger players in. What's that like, that transition like having to know you gotta leave.
- [66:09]
Tom Brady
You understand it. You understand it, Sam. Like I, I already knew at some point. I knew my time was coming. I didn't know when that day would be, but obviously I was able to squeeze out 10 years. Normally. 10 years. Your cut off point. No matter how good you are. If you go down the list of some of the great receivers, there have been very few that stayed on one team for a very long time. The, the two that I could think of maybe the longest might have been Jerry Rice and Larry Gerald. No, Jerry. Jerry at some point left, but Larry and Gerald. One of the few I can think of that stayed at one organization for a very long time. I knew my time was coming. So while I was there, wherever I was at whatever cars I was dealt Bonna play my hand. See, I had fun. So when that time did come, you know, I was at peace with it because I understood the business side of it, which is why I chose to have fun instead. Because I understood the politics and business side that came with it.
- [66:58]
Shannon Sharpe
You know, it's gonna happen, but it doesn't make any easier, right, because of what you or what you give to that organization. All those pain killing injections that I took, all that, all that, those, those poor doll shots that I took just to be able to go play. And now I have one down year. You're like, oh yeah, we good. Seven consecutive Pro Bowls, first team, all pros, 35 yard, all that, man, it's tough. I ain't gonna lie to you. Hey T, I ain't gonna tell you no lie. I'm like, bro, damn. I thought I was gonna be One of them John Elwe's. I'm gonna give me 12, 13, 14 with one team.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. No, it's real. It's real simple, for real. Just. And just to add to what Ocho and Unc is saying, especially is today's media and Adam Schefter and Ian Rappaport, them guys get the news before you do. You know what I mean? So that's the part that I've seen be really impactful negatively to some players. I had one of my teammates here in the Saints who's a running back, and, bro, we chilling in training camp, playing a game, and he just scrolling on Twitter, bro, he just got released by the Saints. He had no idea. Like, no. No idea. And yeah, it was real. He got released. They kept one of the rookie running backs that they had. They had drafted. So on Twitter, he had no idea. You know what I mean? That's the part that hurt. Wow.
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Shannon Sharpe
And the fact of the matter is what Ocho and I, we go around sometime, I'm like, bro, when Adam Schefter and these guys be talking, where you think they getting that from? They get that from the teams. They're getting that from the general manager. They're getting that from owners. They're getting that from player personnel directors. They're getting that from NFL sources. Oh, they don't know. Yes, they do. I mean, Adam Schefter making, you know, lot lots of money. These. These insiders, they make a lot of money and they built up great relationships because. And this is why they say anonymous. This is why they say sources, because the moment they give up one source, they're done. I hope you've made a lot of money because if you give up one source, nobody will ever go on record with you again. Nobody will ever tell you ish. That's why Adam Schefter got all those phones. That's why he taking calls. He's live on air taking calls.
- [69:09]
CJ Gardner-Johnson
That's crazy.
- [69:10]
Shannon Sharpe
There ain't no dummy calls.
- [69:11]
CJ Gardner-Johnson
That's crazy. That's why I got so much love for the King. You know, we see eye to eye when it come to King James. That's why I got so much love for the King, because these organizations got the ability to move you where they want you to be, but you never kind of got the opportunity to pick where you want to go, right?
- [69:28]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Simba, let me ask you one question. I'm get out you guys way going. Just going through your discography, man. What. What's it like to have a song with the legendary dmx, man.
- [69:39]
CJ Gardner-Johnson
Honestly, bro, like, I can't.
- [69:43]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I can't.
- [69:44]
CJ Gardner-Johnson
I can't tell you, because the way that happened, I really wasn't involved on the process of that. That was Joyner Lucas's thing. And him and X had a relationship, and right before X had passed, I believe that might have been the last verse. Joyner told me that he might have laid before he passed, had a great relationship, and they had laid a song. And one day Joyner hit me, and he was like, yo, I got this joint. Me and X did. I want you to get on it. And of course, I was honored to be a part of it. It's X. I grew up trying to be like X. From rapping like them to trying to act like them and exit wounds, you know? So it was just a blessing to be a part of it. Honestly, man, I don't.
- [70:25]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Man.
- [70:27]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, well, T, I know you got to get out of here, man. I appreciate that, man. We appreciate your time.
- [70:32]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Good looking at you guys.
- [70:33]
Shannon Sharpe
When you get some more time, hey, stop back by with us again, man. We'd love to have you.
- [70:37]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Of course, man. Appreciate you guys. Love. Yeah.
- [70:39]
Tom Brady
Thank you.
- [70:40]
Shannon Sharpe
Hold on. What you got? Hey, tell us about the YouTube channel you're getting ready to launch.
- [70:46]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Boom. Oh, yeah. Just really, man, being a big fan of you guys, showing everything you guys doing. I'm. I'm looking to get into my own. I want to talk o line. I want to talk O line D line. Some details of the trenches, how Kobe and Peyton Manning had the detail show and they really broke down, what they're seeing and how they analyze the game. I want to be one of those people and kind of really take over that avenue for O line D line to where it's easily digestible so I can be an educator in that space. So, you know what technique is used, you know, who that sack is on and how it happened. You know what I mean? That's going to be a part of my YouTube show. So Toronto instead show coming soon, man. I appreciate you guys.
- [71:25]
Shannon Sharpe
You already got a partner.
- [71:27]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We. We got some. We got some things. Yeah, we gotta talk offline.
- [71:34]
Tom Brady
You got. You got to talk to, you know, Big Willie Anderson, huh?
- [71:38]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, for sure.
- [71:39]
Tom Brady
Yeah. Really? We'd be real good in that space, especially from an informative standpoint, playing a. Playing O line position, man.
- [71:47]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We gonna be there for sure. You're gonna say, yeah.
- [71:49]
Shannon Sharpe
All right. Well, T, we really appreciate that. His YouTube show launched on June 17th. He's going to break down. It's going to be the final points of O line and D line play what actually happened. The set, quick set, jump set. He watched the stab, he dropped down, he played for the bull. He ben all that stuff, all the good stuff that the intricate stuff that a lot of people don't talk about. You'll be able to get that on Teron's YouTube channel. So check it out. It's launching June 17th. T appreciate your time man. And when you get an opportunity, stop back by with us.
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Shout out to T the volume.
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