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Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. As you watch the number eight Ohio State Buckeyes totally take apart the number one team in the country, Oregon Ducks, by the score of 41 to 21. And even though it was a 20 point lead win, the game really wasn't that close. If you watch that game, that was total. I don't know if I've seen the number one team in the country get beat this bad. Get beat this bad, Ocho, in a very, very, very, very long time. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
And listen, I just have to say one thing. I want you to look at all the teams that had a bye week. They had a buy. I talked about the Kansas City Chiefs having a buy, you know, before they play their first game and having so much time off. Now look. Look what happened to the teams. Look what happened to boys.
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But you have to understand, Ocho, the NFL, they've been granted buys. College don't normally get that. So this is very unique to them. But we'll. We'll see how this thing plays out. Thank you guys for watching us again. I am your favorite unc. Shannon Sharp, that guy. Liberty City's own bingo ring of fame artery, the pro Bowler, the all Pro. That's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Make sure you hit that subscribe button, please. Make sure you hit that like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap Podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Every subscriber counts and we want to thank you for helping us matter and for counting for us. Please check out Shave by La Portier. We do have it in stock. The New Year is upon us. What better way to celebrate the new year than 2025 than with a bottle of Shea by La Portier. And if you cannot find it in a city or state near you, order it and we'll ship it directly to your door. And please drink responsibly. Please check out my media company, Shay Shay Media on all of its platforms. My clothing company 84, with 84 being spelled out, just dropped our newest release which was shirts and sweats. We had beanies, koozies and mugs. Quantities are limited, so please make sure you grab yours while supplies Last ticket for the Super bowl show in New Orleans, our first spring tour stopper on sale now. The link is pinned at the top of the chat in February 6th in New Orleans. Be there. We've been nominated for two sports podcast awards, Best American Sports Football Podcast and Best Sports Comedy Podcast. Please go vote. Link is at the top of the chat and pin on our social pages and all of our social bios before we get started. Ocho, obviously what has transpired the Sugar bowl between the Georgia Bulldogs and the Fighting Irish of Notre Dame was postponed and senseless act of terrorism. And so before we get into the show, we want to have a moment of silence for those that were impacted in all the New Orleans New Orleans that was impacted. The family, friends and loved ones of this senseless and tragic. So we want to take a few moments to pause to heartfelt condolences to those that were impacted by this. I know sometimes it's really hard for you to try to wrap your mind around something that's so senseless. I would encourage you to be vigilant but not be afraid. Go about your normal life. Because that's what terrorist cowards try to do. They try to put you in fear for your normal everyday activities. But we should not. We should be vigilant, but we should not be afraid. As we know there is something that a person that sits high or spirit or whatever you believe that sits high and looks low. He is the King of Kings. He's the Lord of Lords. He's the Alpha and the Omega. He's the Omnipotent one. And I know right now it's hard to understand, but I encourage God to give us all strength and understanding that what transpired Today, to start 2025, someone wanted their moment and they took the coward's way to do just that. To all those that's impacted all people, that lost loved ones, that lost family, that lost friends, the Nightcap crew, along with many others, sends our heartfelt thoughts and prayers. We pray that you gain comfort. We pray that you have understanding and end time. And only when you're ready, hopefully you find peace and solace in this. Ocho. My heart breaks. I can only imagine receiving the news that some people received that this had happened. But I do sincerely, in all my heart, believe there is a how, a power and a higher being. And we don't understand. Everything is not meant for us here to understand. But I do believe sunshine follows rain and it's really dark right now for a lot of people in New Orleans and for the city of New Orleans, because I know you're mourning, I know you're hurting, but just know you're strong and think about what you've already overcome from Katrina and a lot of other things that have happened in that city. You're built for this. We're built for this. And like all things, we'll get through this. Oh, the game that you just watched. The Ohio State Buckeyes took AAPART the number one team in the country, the Oregon Ducks, 4121 in the Rose Bowl. Oregon, excuse me. Ohio State gets their revenge. It was one of their two losses on the season. They lost earlier in the year to Oregon in Oregon, but tonight they were really no match. Jeremiah Smith set the stage early. He had seven catches, a buck 87 and two touchdowns. But this was really a mismatch from the word jump. And I think this is what's so frustrating about Ohio State because you see what they can be now. This is the team that took away, took apart the number one team in the country by 20. By three touchdowns.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, sir.
Unknown Speaker
And lost on their own home field by a team that they were favored by three touchdowns. That's what's frustrating about them. And I think that's what. But Ryan Day, give him credit. We've been very critical here. Not critical. We were critical of the game that he lost. Losing to Ohio, losing to Michigan year in and year out, having that level of talent that you had. Think about the quarterbacks that they've had. Think about the wide receivers, thinking about the D lineman. Think about the DBs from the Denzel wars and the Jeff Okudas and all those guys that's come out of there.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, sir.
Unknown Speaker
You ain't got no national champions, no national championship to show for receiver Marvin Harrison Jr. Jackson, Smith and Jigba. You got Chris Olave, you got Garrett Wilson. Look at those D linemen from Chase Young to Nick Bosa. Look at those quarterbacks, Justin Fields. And you have, rest his soul, what's the guy that, that lost his life tragically? Dwayne Haskins.
Shannon Sharpe
Dwayne Haskins.
Unknown Speaker
You had the other quarterback. And so you can understand why people like, hold on, come on, Coach Dave, you got this level of talent. They had a top, what top six, top seven pick last year in the offensive tackle position. They're like, coach, hey, you got this level of talent and you losing to Michigan and you ain't got no national championship. But all will be forgiven if he takes this thing and finishes it out. But Ohio State looked good today, Ocho. They ran the ball well, they threw the ball well, they stopped. I mean the high powered offensive Oregon. Yeah, it looks very, it looked very pedestrian, very mundane today.
Shannon Sharpe
It did. Listen, I, I, I don't know, may, may, maybe I could be wrong, but I think, I think the week, the week off, I think it did more harm than good for them to be as flat as they look today. As well as organisms played all season long being the number one team in the country and the way they showed up today, that had to be a little bit of rust. And not only was it a little bit of rust, but it was too late and there was no room for the rust. When you playing somebody like Ohio State who had a point after losing the first time they met earlier in the season and that's exactly what they got. Jeremiah Smith, he said ahead of time that if you play one on one, hey, if you play one on one, you're not going to be able to cover me. He went out there and did exactly what he was supposed to do and handled his business. The funny thing about it, people don't, people right now are talking about Jeremiah Smith and how great he is and how good he is and he's probably right now, even as a freshman, probably the number one receiver in the country right now as a freshman. I've been watching Young Bull at Chaminade down there in Miami. You know, for a few years he been like that in little League. He was like that at Ohio State he is like that. When he get drafted into the NFL, he's still going to be like that. He been like that for a long time. Outside of that man, Ohio State looked very, very well. Again, hoping coach Ryan Day can finish the task at hand and for all the great players that have come through Ohio State, they can have. They can hoist that trophy at the end of the day.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah. Oh, C.J. stroud was a quarterback. You had C.J. stroud. No national championship. Justin Fields, no national championship. Dwayne Haskins, no national championship. That's three quarterbacks taken in the first round. First round pick, Garrett Wilson. First round pick, Jackson Smith and Jigba. First round pick, Marvin Harrison, Jr. First round pick, Chase Young. The number two pick, Nick Bosa. The number two pick, Jeff Okuda. Denzel Ward. Come on now, Ocho. Come on, Ocho. I mean, people, hey, they make it seem like we just making stuff up. You got that level of talent year in and year out, and you ain't won no national championship. And people like, oh, oh, they're being too hard, bro. And you lose it to Michigan. I don't think. I personally don't think that's a stretch when you got that level of talent that's coming out year in and year out, and you're underachieving. There's no other way around it, Ocho. Coach Day, you did a phenomenal job of having this team prepared. And from the word jump.
Shannon Sharpe
I have a question. Do you still. Is it considered underachieving the fact that you've had all these quality players year in and year out? Is it still unachieving simply because you haven't won a national championship, but the seasons have. The seasons have been success. I'm just asking. I'm just asking.
Unknown Speaker
Think about it. You got offensive player of the year, Offensive player of the year, Offensive player of the year. Think about. You got quarterbacks, C.J. stroud, Justin Fields, and you had Dwayne Haskins in succession.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, sir.
Unknown Speaker
You think about. You had Jackson, Smith and Jig, but you had Garrett Wilson, you had Olave, you had Marvin Harrison Jr. In succession. And a lot of those guys played together.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
You had Chase Young, you had Nick Bosa, Jeff Okuda, Denzel Ward. Come on, bro.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, bro.
Unknown Speaker
That's 10 first round picks right there.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
And I said the same thing about Coach Saban. Coach Saban said that the fans in Ohio State are psychotic. I asked Coach Saban this if you had consistently lost to Auburn. And you got Julio and you got Calvin Ridley, and you got Judy, and you got Rugs, and you got Waddle, and you got Devontae Smith and you got Amari Cooper, and you got those quarterbacks you got to. You got Bryce Young, you got. What's the Guy that went to New England.
Shannon Sharpe
Not Jay Mac Jones.
Unknown Speaker
Mac Jones. Okay, you got him now. You got. And plus you got. What's the guy, Derrick Henry. And you got Najee Harris. You got Damien Harris, bro. And I ain't gonna talk about the defense. I ain't gonna talk about what they got over there. Yeah, that wasn't national championship.
Shannon Sharpe
That was done.
Unknown Speaker
Even after a couple of years of Coach Saban and Alabama fans, y'all know this. Even after a couple of years of not winning the national championship, after he had done 1, 4 or 5, they say Cole Saban lost his fastball. That man had got four or five national championships. And they saying that with the talent, right? You got Quinny Williams and you got Allen and you got all those guys. See, man, you better. Hey, you better. You. Hey, when you have that level of talent on your. I mean, think about Alabama, the level of talent that they put out every single year, right? Ohio State ain't far behind. The only difference is Alabama has won in the last 15 years, has won six national championships, played for another three. That's the difference between them and Ohio State.
Shannon Sharpe
And, and you know what, What I would love to hear, especially in the chat and then probably people that are going to watch this after the fact and, and hear us talk about this and saying that Ohio State is underachieved based on the level of talent that they've had in succession there without winning the national championship. I'm curious to hear the rebuttals and with the not excuses, but the reason behind why they haven't won will be. And you know, people always find a way they come up with something. I don't want to call them excuses, but there, there are valid reasons, depending on what they may be for whatever reason, I'm curious to hear what they have to say.
Unknown Speaker
And Ohio State also had Joe Burrow. He transferred, leaves.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, he transferred with the lsu.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah. You had Jameson Williams.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, I wonder how do they. How do they let stuff like that happen? You know, how does Auburn. How does Florida let. Let Cam Newton get away? How does. How does Ohio State let Joe Burrow get away? Do they not see the level of talent at that time? Or is the fact that they don't.
Unknown Speaker
Have talented, but you got to be able to beat the guy that's in front of you Out.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, who, who was it Joe Burrow couldn't beat out at Ohio State?
Unknown Speaker
J. J.T. barrett. Sometimes it happened. Who was that? Was it Derek? Was it David Carr? That couldn't be like Billy Bullock at flor at Fresno State. I think it Derek I think David Carr couldn't beat out Billy Bullock. Billy Bowling was like a fifth or sixth running. David Carr was the first pick of the draft.
Shannon Sharpe
So maybe I'm confused. Did they have the issue beating these individuals out or these players had I don't want to play politics. I don't want, I want, I don't want. Huh.
Unknown Speaker
Seniority.
Shannon Sharpe
That's what I yes, seniority.
Unknown Speaker
Because Adrian Peterson said he didn't go to Texas even though he's from I think he's from Palestine is because they had a guy and Max Brown says you won't play a whole lot this year because we believe that the guy that's in front of senior he deserves to play.
Shannon Sharpe
See what I mean?
Unknown Speaker
Oklahoma said we're going to let you play. Okay, that's probably it worked out well. Jameson Williams, he left with Ablav. You got Jackson Smith and Jigba. You got Gary Wilson.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, jmo. JMO was at Ohio State too.
Unknown Speaker
He absolutely was.
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Shannon Sharpe
So I kind of understand that sometimes.
Unknown Speaker
You know, a change of scenery is good.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, sir.
Unknown Speaker
Ohio State look good tonight. I mean, they ran. I mean, the guy hit us. I mean, they just like, okay, we tired of throwing it. Maybe they, they preparing for the. The pass, let's just hand it off. They hand the ball off and the guy goes 64, 65 yards.
Shannon Sharpe
No, 66. 66.
Unknown Speaker
Oh, how you go 60 on a handoff. You hit the hole, you hit the sideline, and don't nobody touch you.
Shannon Sharpe
No. And the player, even the players in the secondary taking the angle. I don't know what kind of angle they took.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, I don't know what he took. The first guy that missed him because they were so. The other guys were so far out of position, they weren't gonna catch it. Once he hit that sideline, he.
Shannon Sharpe
It was a rap.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, But Will Howard, 17 of 26, 319, three touchdowns, zero interceptions. Ohio State running attack, 31 rushes, 181 yards, two touchdowns.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, I hit him killers back there. I hit him killers.
Unknown Speaker
Well, that's outside though. I think that was a car. Henderson, eight carries for 94 yards, two touchdown longer, 66. Judkins, 17 carries, 85 yards. But they did whatever they wanted to do and they were all over. Dylan Gabriel, eight sacks tonight. Ocho, check this out. They had 28 rushes for minus 23 yards. Let me repeat that. 28 rushes for minus 23 yards. Now, a lot of that Ocho came on sack yards. College, they still take the sack yards. They take it from your rush.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, sir.
Unknown Speaker
So Dylan Gabriel carried the ball 12 times from minus 43 yards. So therein lies why the minus 23. But he, he was 29 of 41 for 299, two touchdowns. But give Ohio State. Give Ohio State credit. They rushed three, they got pressure. They rushed four, they got pressure. It didn't matter what they did. They could do whatever they wanted to do. And they took them apart. They were, they were clearly the better team. Now, of all the teams that I've seen play thus far, yeah, they look the best. Ohio State look, the best, the best. The best college football team that we've seen in the college football playoffs thus far was Ohio State. What Ohio State did tonight, now next week might be something entirely different. Ocho, Georgia or North. Notre Dame might come out tomorrow. I think the game is still scheduled for tomorrow, right, Ash? Okay. Notre Dame might come out here and blow us away. Georgia might come out here and blow us away.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Unknown Speaker
But the best team that we've seen thus far, top to bottom, is the Ohio State Buckeyes tonight.
Shannon Sharpe
I wonder what the difference is though, huh? I wonder what. I mean, look, look at, looking at the game. You have a week to prepare. You've already played them once, you beat him once. So I wonder what the difference was. What did Oregon do wrong that they didn't do the first time they played?
Unknown Speaker
Didn't Oregon get a couple of special teams touchdowns the first time they played? I think, I think something had to go really well. But to their credit, Oregon did have like 500 yards of total offense the first time. But Ocho, you're at home, you know, you play better at home than you do on the road, especially college kids. Now. You got to realize you're dealing with 18, 19, 20 year olds.
Shannon Sharpe
Right? Right.
Unknown Speaker
These aren't professionals. Well, they are somewhat. Some of them are professionals. Well, they get paid like professionals. Yeah, let's do that. Let's say that. Um, and so, Yeah, I mean 14 points in the first quarter, they got 20 points in the second quarter, that was 34. Oregon scored right before the half, went for two, got it, made it 34 to eight. But the game really wasn't that close. Let's be, let's be realistic. The game really wasn't that close if you watched it. I don't think anybody thought once that game got to 20, got that game, got to 21 to nothing. I don't think anybody thought, man, Oregon, go, come back. I don't think anybody thought that. Not even Oregon fans, not even Phil Knight. And he, he might be the most, he might be the, the, the most die hard dunk fan. He knew it was over. Yeah, Will Howard seemed to be finding his stride. 319 yards, three touchdowns. Howard's second straight game of 300 plus passing yard and his third this season. And freshman wide receiver Jeremiah Smith had a career day, seven catches, 187 yards and two scores. Look, Ohio State has had some receivers. It started with Chris Carter and you know, you come on down a lot.
Shannon Sharpe
Of them, man, it's a lot of them.
Unknown Speaker
David Boston, you Know, they've had, you know, obviously, this run of receivers you had, Michael Thomas, they've had some receivers, but this kid, as big as he is and the way he could move, because most guys, Michael Thomas was big. He ain't fast like this kid. Even Cece couldn't run like this kid. Listen, the other guy's a little on the smallish side. Now, Alabi, I think a lobby. And Garrett Wilson looks like £215.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, they're a little bit more wide.
Unknown Speaker
They're a little bit angular.
Shannon Sharpe
I mean no disrespect, right, Chad? Y'all stay with me now. I've been watching Jeremiah Smith since high school. He was at Chaminade, right? So my comparison, even at the collegiate level, even as a freshman. Now, I know my eye. I know my eyes. My eyes ain't fail me. I got 22 in the vision. If I was in the Marines, I'd be a sniper. That's the kind of vision I got.
Unknown Speaker
You hear me?
Shannon Sharpe
Jeremiah Smith comparison right now, to me is no different than Julio Jones when he was at Alabama.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, I agree with that.
Shannon Sharpe
That's him. That is him. There's no weakness in this game, man to man, bumper run zone coverage, going deep, intermediate, short, hit your head off the goal post or anything that everything. He's well rounded and does everything very well. Everything he does. But when I compare them, Julio Jones, where some people might be, oh, that disrespectful. Slow down a little bit. You know, he's young, he's only a freshman. I'm telling you, he's only going to get better. He's only going to improve. He's only going to get faster, stronger, get a better understanding of the game. Dude, trust me. That's his comparison. And he will be the number one pick in the draft unless there's a quarterback that comes out of nowhere and just blows us all away. Jeremiah Smith will be the number one pick in the draft. I'm not sure. What year would that be?
Unknown Speaker
You got two more years. He's a freshman now. I think he's 19, but it all depends. See, he can't come out until he's 21 because his class. He's a freshman now. He had been red shirted. You know, hey, he can come out next year because his class would have graduated, but you can't come out until the class that you come in graduate. So that's going to put him two more years. But guess what? He good. He'd be making two, three million dollars a year. It ain't like the old days when you stayed in school. Maybe you got a Challenger or a Charger or you got some. You got a free meal here and there.
Shannon Sharpe
Getting that bag, huh?
Unknown Speaker
These guys now, they make it, you know, they're making $800 million a year.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
Nil deals. Well, you saw what the kid, the college kid is going to Michigan got. He got 12 and a half million.
Shannon Sharpe
The quarterback.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, he got 12 and a half million and he got some. And he got something else. Oh, and he get tutored by Tom Brady.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Hey, is it. Have you seen footage of film on him? Is he really like that?
Unknown Speaker
He like that? Be like that.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
Now put it like this. He was like that in high school. There were a lot of kids that was like that in high school, but they like that in college, right? Adrian Peterson was like that in high school and in college you look at him like, damn, Derrick Henry was like that at every level. Yeah. Adrian Peterson was like that at every level. Yeah, Ed like that at every level. Some guys, it doesn't matter. Randy, Jerry, even though Jerry went to Mississippi Valley, people like, oh, he only doing that cause look where he doing it. Okay, right. They said the same thing about Walter Payton. Right. Look at what he ain't doing. He doing that against Jack. Okay. He's all time lead rusher.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
Jerry is the all time lead receiver. So. Yeah. That was a game. Ohio State, they put it on him. Well, Oregon gotta go back to the drawing board, boy. Yeah, Texas. Now this is the type of game that I like to watch.
Shannon Sharpe
This was a good game. Listen, I don't know, I don't even know what the tickets. I don't know what the ticket prices were. I don't care if there was no speed. I don't care if you were sitting at the 50 yard line. This was, this is what you call a game that's worth this money. I don't care how much it costs.
Unknown Speaker
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't care how much it costs. This is how football should be. Week in and week out, the Texas.
Unknown Speaker
Longhorns beat the Arizona State sun devils in an OT thriller. A double OT thriller. The number five Texas squandered a 16 point lead in the fourth quarter, missed two field goals in the final two minutes of regulation and still somehow managed to escape with a 39:31 double overtime win over the number four seed Arizona State in the Peach Bowl. The chicken a late.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
Oo Hey, I know, sorry as I just text him. Congratulations. We're gonna try to get him on here one of these over the next couple of days. So maybe we can. We can. We can get him on there. He's fly. They flying back now, so. Or we would have had his ass over here tonight. Had him on here tonight. But, man, this was a game. Oh, this is how it's supposed to be. Ain't nobody trying to see no double digit. Everybody winning by double digit.
Shannon Sharpe
Listen, I thought. I thought it was. Listen, the way it started out, I thought Arizona State was gonna get blowed out. Now.
Unknown Speaker
14, what was it? 14, what was it? 14? 3.
Shannon Sharpe
14, 3. Yeah, but, man, they jumped out on top of them boys head. I'm like, oh, man, I'm gonna turn the channel. I'm gonna turn the channel. And then obviously things started to change. Things started to move, and I don't know what's wrong with college kickers. Hell, I don't even know what's wrong with NFL kickers. You have one job, you do one thing the entirety day of practice, you kick the ball. That's it. Texas kicker almost cost them almost two key field goals that could have sealed the win. Now, they did win the game, but ain't no telling what. What could have happened. Ain't no telling what could have happened that goddamn. Cam. How you. How you say y'all. Young bull last night. Scatterboat.
Unknown Speaker
Scat. Scat Boo.
Shannon Sharpe
Scatmo.
Unknown Speaker
Is it scatterable? Because they were. They were saying, scatter boo. They say, scat boat. I mean, I'm confused.
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, you know what I'm gonna call him? I'm calling him Scat Pack. I'm gonna call him Scam. Scam. Cam. Scat Pack.
Unknown Speaker
Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, he nice boy, you know, he's a senior, too. He coming out, huh?
Unknown Speaker
Scatter Boo. Cam. Scatter Boo.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, Cam. Scat. Cam scat back. Scatter Boo. I know you're probably gonna see this. I know you're probably watching the show. Listen, if you don't see it, I know my son gonna let you know, boy, you the real deal, boy. You hear me? He a senior, huh?
Unknown Speaker
Huh? Yeah, I think so. He's a senior.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Well, we have. You know where you belong. You belong.
Unknown Speaker
You.
Shannon Sharpe
He run the ball like he. He belong. He's supposed to play for the Ravens or the Browns.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, he gonna be a rarity. He gonna be one of the white running backs. We don't see. They don't come along very often. But normally when they come along, Ocho.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, you know. You know, you know, he gonna be like, I'm gonna give you a good Name right here. Tell me if you remember this. Peyton Hillis.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Little Peyton Hillis.
Unknown Speaker
Don't give up.
Shannon Sharpe
Run hard. If you get in the way. He can shake you a little bit. He got. He got a little. He got a little. Little move to him now.
Unknown Speaker
Well, you remember Hillis was in that Backfield with Darryl McFadden and the other kid that went to. They went to the Cowboys. Yeah. What's the other guy name? I mean, they would. They were doing it. You might have Fadden and what's his. I can't think of the guy's name. What's. What's the guy's name? Guy I know y'all people talking about Toby Gearhart, the old Cardinal, Stanford Cardinal. What's he was on at Arkansas. Felix Jones. You remember Felix?
Shannon Sharpe
I remember Felix Jones. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
Yes. All. It was in the backfield. Yeah. Yes, yes. But this is where that game's supposed to be. Quinn Ewers, 20th, 33, 30 322. Three touchdowns, one interceptions. They didn't run the ball particularly well. 30 carries, 53 yards. Golden had a big catch, seven for a buck 49. Helm had three for 56. And Ocho.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
I think Arizona State's gonna be kicking themselves. They kind of. I think they kind of let this one go. You can't let that guy get over your head in that situation, Ocho. No, that. That. That touchdown. That first touchdown in Otto.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
Ocho, you can't, lady, you can't. I mean, you just can't.
Shannon Sharpe
That should have been the number one rule from the coach. Keep everything in front of you.
Unknown Speaker
Nothing. Number one rule, Ocho, the number one rule late in the ball game. Nothing cheap, nothing deep.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Keeping it from you.
Unknown Speaker
Nothing cheap, nothing deep.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
I don't care if he catches. I don't care if he catch a 15 yard right in front of me. It's when you try to be the hero and get you a cheap pick.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
That gets you in trouble.
Shannon Sharpe
Yep.
Unknown Speaker
Ain't no way. Safety. You the last line of defense. If he's even with you. You're wrong.
Shannon Sharpe
It's a rap. It's a rap. Hey, ocho, it was fourth down, fourth and 13.
Unknown Speaker
Ocho, you cannot give that up. You can't.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh.
Unknown Speaker
Oh. My heels on the goal line. I'm thinking, as a matter of fact, I think they throw the hair. Mary. Oh, y'all. I'm on the goal line. My heels on the goal line. I knock it down. Knock it down. You're not getting bad. I'm not gonna give you no cheap tub.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, man. Yeah. I, I, I don't wanna, I don't even want to blame the coaches. I don't want to blame coaching. As a player in that situation, you got to have some type of awareness, some type of awareness and understanding, understand the situation that you're in. And no, you just, you can't be, you can't get beat. Not in that situation at all. And if anything, if I am, let him make a great play, but let me be in position.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, if you're going to make the.
Shannon Sharpe
Play, at least let me be in position. And he have to make a great play in order to catch that man.
Unknown Speaker
I was like, oh, my goodness, on 4th and 13, you give up that. But I think Arizona State showed that they belong. Everybody was like, well, they didn't belong that weak conference. And they didn't do this and this team didn't do that. They played. They gave Texas all they could handle.
Shannon Sharpe
They definitely belong.
Unknown Speaker
And more. Ojo, when you watched Quinn Ewers, what you think?
Shannon Sharpe
You know, it's hard to tell. It's hard to tell at this level. Obviously, to me, if you have enough, if you have enough talent around you, enough players, at this kind of level, any quarterback can look good.
Unknown Speaker
Huh.
Shannon Sharpe
So what kind of quarterback is Hughes? Is this type of quarterback that goes to the NFL and elevate the talent around him. Who's the kind of quarterback where he needs a talent around him to be able to elevate?
Unknown Speaker
I don't see him elevating anybody. I really don't. And the mere fact that he's thinking about coming back lets you know, right? Because normally, guys, whoa. Come back where he's gonna come back to Texas, he gonna transfer? I don't see him going to the league.
Shannon Sharpe
He's not gonna see the field before with Arson. Yeah. Oh, no. I mean, he probably, if he gonna come back, he probably gonna come back somewhere else, but I doubt it's Texas because he's not gonna be Arch Manning out.
Unknown Speaker
I mean, I've been reading, I don't know if these reports are true, Ojo, but I've been reading that some team, some college team got $6 million in nil money for him.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Unknown Speaker
When I just watch him, I'm like, bro, that ball that he threw, that got picked, I'm trying to figure out.
Shannon Sharpe
The loaf, the load that he lost.
Unknown Speaker
Yes. That hospital ball.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. I don't know.
Unknown Speaker
I still don't know where he was throwing it because the backside safety and the front side was there. So I'm just trying to figure out, say, okay, well, who. What did you see? What did you. What did you think you saw?
Shannon Sharpe
I know what did happen on that play right there. They ran it in practice multiple times. And in practice, it was open.
Unknown Speaker
You know why it was open? You know why it was open. Tell the people at home what they say. They tell the safety to do what? Jump to underneath so we can throw the ball over your damn head.
Shannon Sharpe
That's exactly what he did. Anyway, instead of understanding and reading your coverage, you know, and you just letting the ball go and it's not open.
Unknown Speaker
Cause that's the. That's what happens. What happens is we. Hey, you go draw the thing up, and then the guy circle, okay, we want to throw the ball. Now the guy that's running the scout team say, hey, safety, you drop the crossing route, and we're gonna throw the post over your head. Boom. Well, come game time, hey, can you drop this over. Can you drop this over route so we can throw the post behind your head? He gonna read it, right? Duh, you should read it. But you see what happens, Ocho, when you make your mind up pre snap that you throwing the ball? Yeah, that's what happens. Yeah, yeah, that's what happens. He had his mind made up. I'm throwing this post no matter what, bro. Ain't no way you in hell. You read that and said, you know what? I'm throwing this. And then he throws it like a punt. Yeah, that's gotta be on the line. But even if it was on the line, first of all, that was targeted, too, because the backside guy left his feet and hit the guy in the chest. Yeah, but they didn't. Hey, they didn't want to, like, nah, we can't call that target and blah, blah, blah, because they returned the favor because by the letter of the law, the Texas got targeted, but they didn't want to impact the game in that way. Just as. Oh, no targeting. But that was absolute targeting. Yeah. I mean, he wouldn't help it. Hell, but the other guy left his feet. He launched. They say you can't launch yourself and hit the guy in the neck of the shoulder area. He launched. And they say you can't use your helmet, the crown of your helmet to make a tackle. He went helmet to helmet with the guy. But it's like, man, we can't impact this game like this here. We can't.
Shannon Sharpe
They pick and choose. They pick and choose when the call is absolutely right. They gotta find some level of consistency when you making these calls.
Unknown Speaker
Texas had 375 total yards. Arizona State had 510 total rush yard. Texas had 53. Arizona State had 214. Quinn Ewers was 20 of 33, 32. Three touchdowns, one interception. Sam Levitt 24, 46, 222, no touchdowns, one interception. But that last interception, Muhammad made a great play. Give him credit. I mean, sometimes, Ocho, we keep blaming. We keep blaming the quarterback, man, you threw that. Blah, blah, blah. But you know the defensive guy, they steady for him, too. Yeah, he made a hell of a play.
Shannon Sharpe
Great play.
Unknown Speaker
He didn't settle for just trying to break it up. He caught the ball. He caught it and it's okay, you know, hey, 84, you got to make that play. Hey, coach, he get paid too. You think? You think? Bronco players the only way to make money in the NFL, right? And they study for him and they got coaches, too. Oh, okay. Yeah. So, hey, I understand I'm supposed to make the play, but, you know, it's just the NFL. Everybody can make a play. I'm going to win more than I lose. But hey, that guy made a hell of a play on that interception to seal this victory, Ocho. Yeah, he did. But you can't get beat on 4th and 13, Ocho over Taco to him. You cannot. You can't, Ocho. You cannot at all. I was like, bro, I said, are you. I said, are you serious? That.
Shannon Sharpe
That, that's. That should have been a conversation had with the. Not just the head coach, the defensive coordinator, the DV coach, the secondary coach. That who the man up upstairs in the booth. Don't get bit beat deep. You can't. You can't.
Unknown Speaker
Nothing cheap. Nothing deep. I am not you. You will not complete this ball over my head. You're not. Because Ocho, at worst case scenario, I'm going to make you line it up again and try to run another series of downs in order to get the ball in the end zone. Right now, the only thing you can hope is that once that guy gets over your head, either Quinn Ewers under throws him or the guy drops the football. But you hey now inside of your hands.
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See, I want. I want to play in my hands, Ocho, right? I want to play in my hands. I get him on the ground. That's all I got to do. Get him on the ground. Well, you get him on the ground in the end zone, it's still a touchdown. You don't get no tackle for that. You gotta tackle him in the field of play or push his ass out of bounds in order for you to get a tackle. Once he in the end zone. Guys. And newbie Ocho. Yeah. Can guys do me a favor? College kid, if a guy get a first down, can y'all stop celebrating? What did you do?
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, come on, huh? Wait a minute now. Come on now. Oh, Joe, the guy got the first down, that first down. When you get that first down, you gotta.
Unknown Speaker
No, I'm talking about the defense.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, the defense.
Unknown Speaker
Oh, you got a big hit on somebody, he got a first down.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, I thought. I thought you meant a receiver. Okay, okay.
Unknown Speaker
No, I'm like, bro, I'm like, what? Maybe I missed something. I said let me rewind this because I want to see what you did. It's still a first down.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
Now look, look, the college kids, they gonna celebrate that. I don't mind em celebrating. And plus, Ocho, if you make a tackle, I mean, as a defender, what's your job? Make a tackle?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
You can't celebrate every tackle. I mean, if you get a sack, Ocho, I get it. Tackle for loss, tackle for a loss. You get a sack, Ocho. A big key third down. You know you want to do this. I get all that, but, bro, the guy get 3, 4 yards and you jump up celebrating. Come on now. Now we doing way too much with this, like, dam they had.
Shannon Sharpe
They having a good time out there, man.
Unknown Speaker
Scatter, boo. Scatter bow. 30 carries, 143 yards, two rushing touchdowns, eight catches at 99 yards. Had that guy not pulled his face mask. He's gonna drag his. You know what into the end zone. Ocho Scatterbowl was so outstanding, he was named Peach bowl offensive player of the game. Yeah, you don't see that very often.
Shannon Sharpe
His name is Scat Pack.
Unknown Speaker
Scat Pack. Well, Scat Pack did something that you don't see very often. A guy winning defense, winning offensive player of the game from a losing team.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
It's only happened, you know, Jerry West. Jerry West. The first year they gave out Finals MVP in 1969, Jerry west won the award on a losing squad. They lost the championships 4, 3. The final game, they lost on their home court again. Now you got to go back to the end of football. Chuck Howley, he won Super Bowl MVP on a losing squad. They lost 16, 13 to the Colts. Chuck Howley was the MVP. That's the only time that I can remember somebody from the losing squad winning an award.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
Now, I'm not saying that maybe it's happened. I don't know. In baseball, if somebody's won a World Series MVP from the losing squad. I have to go way back, but I don't remember. I don't think it's happened in the last 25, 30 years. But it just goes to show you just how outstanding that this gentleman was from the Sun Devils running and catching the football.
Shannon Sharpe
He was. He was. He belongs. When you're able to perform like that against a team like that, it lets you know you belong regardless of the conference you play in.
Unknown Speaker
Oh, yeah, but you can. You can tell guys that the talent shine above. Oh, yeah, you can tell. I mean, he. Okay, that's an SEC defense. Right. And he went and got a buck 30. He went, but got a buck 43 on him. And he almost had 100 yards receiving. So he had what, 200. And what's that? Two hundred and forty two yards of total offense. That ain't bad. And two touchdowns against an SEC defense look good when you go play. And if you had a small school, Ocho, if you play up a level, say you go to Division 2 and you play FCS or you FCS and you play.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Unknown Speaker
The talent is shined through. Darius Leonard, when he played Clemson, he was at South Carolina State. He had 29 tackles. Oh, he could play. Yeah. I played Georgia Southern. They were the. They were the. The one double A national championship the year we played them.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Unknown Speaker
I dropped 202 on him. Oh, he could play.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
Elon was the NIA National Championship the year before. I dropped 221 on them. Oh, damn, he did that.
Shannon Sharpe
And you know what this is. This is another conversation that I always like to have where young players coming out of high school, they're always so focused on all their offers and where they're going. And I say it again. If you really like that, if you really like that and you feel you're as good as you think you are, it really don't matter where you go. You can put up performances like that. What you were able to do against better team, what you were able, better talent, or being like scat pack and coming out there and performing very well against. I mean, it's just, you know, Ocho.
Unknown Speaker
I think a lot of times when you cut on the TV and you see that, that horseshoe packed, or you see 108,000 at Texas A&M, you see 100,000 at Georgia, you see 93,000 at Alabama, you see 105,000 at Tennessee, kids like, I want to play in front of that. That's all. I mean, you know, that's what I want. That's what I wanted, ojo, because that's what I saw on television. I didn't see no HBCUs. Right?
Shannon Sharpe
But see, I understand what you talk about, but then, now we go into the issue of, okay, I want to go to these big schools where they have players that have been there before me, and I get there and they tell me, oh, I got to wait my turn or I might not touch the field as much because we have so and so. And he asking you already over you, not about know what, I'm coming in here to compete for the job. But you mean to tell me he asked and you already over me, so he probably going to play before me instead of let me have an opportunity to beat him out, regardless of what. What. What his grade level is, Freshman, it don't matter.
Unknown Speaker
Oh, they had to play me, Ocho.
Shannon Sharpe
You think Jeremiah Smith was going to go to Ohio State and have to sit behind somebody that's a senior or junior? Because they've been there for what, two. For three, three or four years, man.
Unknown Speaker
Man, hey, you better get on the pot of that then. Cause, hey, you know who coming. Hey, hey, they had to play me, Ocho. Yeah. Oh, what you thought? Oh, I was one of the few freshmen that travel, right? I ain't just traveling. Oh, you could travel this week, man. Travel to do what? Stand on the sideline of my uniform? Oh, hell no.
Shannon Sharpe
Right?
Unknown Speaker
And the first game, the first game we played Ocho, our first home Game. Yeah, man, I was so embarrassed. I caught a Goalball, Ocho, right? 56 yards, got tackled on the one.
Shannon Sharpe
Come on, huh?
Unknown Speaker
First catch in college.
Shannon Sharpe
Hold on, hold on. What you embarrassed for, man?
Unknown Speaker
That's supposed to be a 57 yard touchdown, not a 56 yard catch.
Shannon Sharpe
But which way, Steve? Gotta stiff him. Oh, you gotta catch that thing and, you know, get that. Get that stiff arm back behind him, Ocho.
Unknown Speaker
It felt like. I mean, it felt like I was running. It felt to me like I was running slow motion. I was like, damn. Is somebody pulling the end zone away from me? Damn.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, shit. Hold on, man. They got the AC on in here. I'm tripping.
Unknown Speaker
You mean they you?
Shannon Sharpe
I mean. No, Listen, when you come to a hotel, right, and the hotel know you in the cold city, they should have all the rooms already set with the heat on, no?
Unknown Speaker
Well, see, if you had an assistant, the assistant would tell them, Mr. Johnson, like his temperature set at a certain temp. So when I get to my hotel room, the hotel is already at temperature of 68 degrees.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, how about if my. If my assistant didn't decide to leave me, that's been my assistant for the past five years, didn't decide to motherfucking up and leave, then maybe my goddamn heater would have been on when I got in this motherfucker.
Unknown Speaker
Well, I don't know. Is that. She say. She said, first of all, as long as you cursing, she ain't coming back. Second of all, she said she ain't no more for assistant. Listen, but you said you was looking for an assistant.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I was, because I had to get a new one. Well, the position.
Unknown Speaker
She gonna be your assistant and she got her stuff to do. Ocho, hold on.
Shannon Sharpe
You knew what you signed up for. When I. When you tried to holler at me.
Unknown Speaker
You didn't tell her that?
Shannon Sharpe
I did. Listen, I gave her the paperwork. I gave her the paperwork. This is what I come with. Like, are you able to abide by these obligations that I need now? I need help in my life.
Unknown Speaker
You paying for that? How much you pay for that, huh? Cause I know what I pay my sister.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, man. She make about maybe about 150, 180 a year.
Unknown Speaker
Okay, that's good money. Yeah, that's exactly. That's exactly what I pay my sister.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, I did my hand, everything.
Unknown Speaker
You have to worry about nothing. Hey, hey. You get into the. You get into the car, the seats already pulled all the way forward. You don't have to do none of that. Hey, Mr. Sharp, like his bag. This bag, his duffel bag. He like it sitting next to him. Yes, all that, Ocho.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, but you gotta understand, I ain't had. I ain't had that for two months now. So now I didn't. I got. I got to feel. I got to feel.
Unknown Speaker
I got.
Shannon Sharpe
I got to fill a position. I don't got time to wait no more. It's a new year. It's 2025. I ain't got time to play.
Unknown Speaker
Rare, probably. I mean, with her busy schedule. She got a Netflix show coming out. She got another show coming out.
Shannon Sharpe
She's doing that before all that came along. You knew what the obligations were when you signed up for this?
Unknown Speaker
No. Did you relay that information to her?
Shannon Sharpe
I did. It was in the goddamn contract.
Unknown Speaker
Oh, okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Ain't nobody tell you to sign the motherfucking dotted line if you weren't gonna finish the goddamn job. Shit.
Unknown Speaker
All right. Quinn Ewers has received a $6 million offer to enter the transfer portal rather than heading to the NFL Draft this spring. According to On3, multiple power forward schools are working to get yours in the portal ahead of the final. His final year of college eligibility. 6 million for one year, Ocho.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. He got to come back. He has to come back and continue to work on his game. Because when you watch yours, I need your play to pop out on the screen. Yes, I needed to pop out. When you watch a Joe Burrow in college, you watch a C.J. stroud in college, when you watch other quarterbacks like the Cam Ward, they pop out on screen. There's something special about those individuals. Special. So he needs to come back another year, no matter where it is, and, you know, pop out.
Unknown Speaker
I agree with you. I agree with you, Ocho. I don't see special. I see a good college quarterback, but I don't see special. Right. I don't see man. A. Must have a guy that's a like, boy, if they get him, he gonna great. He's gonna. He's gonna drastically change their fortunes. I don't see that now. Let's see.
Shannon Sharpe
Let's see.
Unknown Speaker
I mean, he might come back and get better because nobody saw that. If you'd asked teams that was gonna look at Joe Burrow before he came back for his senior year, Joe Burrow didn't seem special, but he came back for that year. He was special. Mac Jones. Hell, if Mac Jones don't come to get that one year, Mac Jones ain't no first. Ain't no first round pick.
Shannon Sharpe
Right, right, right.
Unknown Speaker
Sometimes look and hey, I Don't blame people like. Well, look what. Yes. Okay, now can he make it happen? You throwing the Devontae, you got Najee. You got waddle, you know, you got. Hey, you got a very, very talented team. It just goes to show you just how good he was because he kept Bryce Young on the bench. And we see Bryce Young the next year, won the Heisman.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, and also look at the talent. This is what I like about Bryce, too. Now, we saw him. We saw Bryce win the Heisman, but you look at the talent that Bryce had around him.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, for sure.
Shannon Sharpe
Thought he got to Carolina. He thought something was wrong with him. Then he gets benched. He come back after getting benched, and I don't know what the hell happened. I don't know what type of prayer he said. Now he's back to playing great football, looking like the Bryce Young we saw in college. Even in losing. Even in losing efforts as a team and as a quarterback, he looks completely, totally different than he did when he first started.
Unknown Speaker
He did. He does. They just need to give him some talent. If you look at the quarterbacks that perform well, look at C.J. stroud. Look at what he was throwing to Tankdale. And Nico Collins. Look at what he was throwing to. Okay? Look at Caleb Williams. He got Roman Dunes, a first round pick. He got D.J. moore, who just signed the contract extension. He got Keenan Allen. Look at. Look at what. Daniels. Yeah, look at what he's throwing to. Damn. I mean, y'all want the man to come out? Hey, I don't care. Even Peyton. Peyton Manning had Marvin Harrison when he got there. He had Marvin Harrison, he had Ken Dilger. I mean, and he had Marshall Paul.
Shannon Sharpe
Crazy.
Unknown Speaker
Yes. As a rookie, he had two first ballot hall of Famers. As a rookie, Ken Dilger had been the Pro Bowls. There's another. I forget the guy name. Oh, my goodness. The other tight end. As a matter of fact, the Colts had two tight ends to make the Pro bowl mark. What's his name? Go back and look at 90. Teddy, stop scratching the couch. I can't think of the other. The other bro. He was a. What's that dude's name? Because I traded. I traded helmets with Ken Dillgate at the Pro bowl one year. I'm trying to think, what year was that? Hell, I don't even remember. Provo. Tight end. No, no, no. In like in the 90s. Yeah. Marcus Pollard. Thank you, Chad. Marcus Pollard.
Shannon Sharpe
Marcus Pollard. I remember. I remember. Marcus Pollard. Hey, I ain't heard that name in a minute, man.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, so I mean, y'all want these guys to come out here and do spectacular things, but go back and look at your favorite quarterback and see what they were throwing to. Y'all do realize that when Mahomes became the starter, y'all know who he was throwing to, right? He had Tyreek, he had Sammy Watkins, he had Travis Kelsey.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
Could I interest you in any of those guys? Two of those guys are going to the hall of Fame. Tyreek and Kelsey gonna go to the hall of Fame. That's what he was throwing to. Look at what Big Ben had to throw to.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, no. Look what he's always, always had to throw to. Hey, the Pittsburgh Steelers are just like Cincinnati when it comes to receivers. You know that you. Have you noticed that they always, always have good receivers come through that channel no matter what. Cincinnati and Pittsburgh always.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, they had plaques, they had Heinz. What she got it won the super bowl. Mvp.
Shannon Sharpe
San Antonio Holmes.
Unknown Speaker
San Antonio Holmes. I mean, bro, y'all make it seem like. I mean, I mean, yeah, give. Give Bryce Young those type of weapons and let's see, let's see. You got to get a guy something to work with. Marino, I think Marino. What? I think Duper and Clayton got there with Marino in 83. They might have came with 80. It might have been 83. They might have got there together, but you got to get a guy something to work with. Damn.
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Unknown Speaker
Penn State says resolved it says it. They Wanted to do everything they possibly could. To make a long story short, Ocho, Penn State did not want Genty to get that record on their watch. Genti entered the game needing 131 yards of breaking the record of tying the record, 132 to break it. Barry had 2629 set in 1988. Penn State defense stifled Genty, holding him to a season low 104 yards rushing. It's his first time not rushing for at least 125 yards in a game. This season he finished 28 yards shy of breaking Barry Sanders record.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, listen, they were popping young bull out there, man. Yes, they would let him have it. Now I thought, honestly, I'm just going to be honest, honest with you. I didn't think he was going to do well against Penn State because the level of competition he was playing at or with or against for that matter, in his conference. But he looked, he looked pretty, pretty, pretty goddamn good. Yeah, he was breaking tackles.
Unknown Speaker
He ran hard. Oo.
Shannon Sharpe
He ran very hard after contact, you know, I'm not sure, I'm not sure how many yards he had after contact, but most of them he was hard to bring down. The first, the first guy never made the tackle. The first guy never bought him down for the most part.
Unknown Speaker
But like I said, Ocho, look, you don't want that record. And my thing was, and I said this on first take, I said, look, I know what Aston Genti is. Let me tell you what I'm going to do. If that quarterback goes out there and throw for 350 or three touchdowns, I'm going to go to the middle of the field, shake his hand, say, congratulations, young man, good luck moving forward. But I refuse to let Genty run their ass to a victory that's not going to happen. And they felt the quarterback couldn't beat them throwing the football, and he couldn't. Because you know when you, when you take that running game away because they wanted to give him the ball. But I thought. And the problem is they fell behind. Yeah, you fall behind. Ocho, that game was about to get really out of hand. Had the quarterback, Aller, he's doing the right thing by coming back because he's not very good. I don't think in my eyes, watching him play for the three or four games that I've seen him play, he is average. He's an average. He's an average college quarterback. There's nothing special about him.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
But if he doesn't fumble that ball and they're about to go up 20, 21 to nothing. It's just ain't about to get out of hand. And now you really. And that's what happened when you get ahead like that, guess what, you take him out of the running game.
Shannon Sharpe
You have.
Unknown Speaker
But Genti, he ran hard but hey, give him state credit. They say we don't want you to break that record on us. And they did a great job of neutralizing him. Look, they need to go back and everybody that played in the bowl game they need to put add those yards to the total. You could do it right? Just add, just add Barry what he did in the Holiday Bowl. Just go look it up. Barry had like 225 in the, in the Holiday Bowl. Barry's record is really like 12 games, 2,800 yards and like 40 plus touchdowns. They didn't count the bowl see they didn't count the bowl games back then Ocho like they do now. Bear had like 20k and they took him out. Bear could have had another 300 yard game. They talk about what they were letting taking Genti out. Go look at some of bad games and they, when they took him out, Barrett was having 300 yard games.
Shannon Sharpe
That's crazy.
Unknown Speaker
Look at what he did to Oklahoma. Look at what he did to Nebraska, what he did to Missouri. Go back and look at Barry's station. Even if JT had a broke his record. The greatest college rushing season is Barry Sanders. I think it's one of the two best seasons in the history of the game. Joe Burrow, that 5060 touchdown season and the Barry Sanders 2,800 yards and 40 plus touchdowns. Y'all, if y'all just go back and look at the numbers that Barry put up and you'll like you'll get a better appreciation of Barry Sanders college career.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
And his sophomore year he backed up Thurman Thomas. Yeah, Barry didn't start. Thurman started. Barry ran back punts and kickoffs. Yeah, let that sink, let that sink in. Many of you believe Barry is the greatest running back in NFL history and.
Shannon Sharpe
He had to sit started one year. That's crazy. That's crazy.
Unknown Speaker
It was what Joe Burrow did that season there. You're probably not going to see it again because you're probably not going to be able to find two receivers like Chase and Jefferson.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
And then when you combine Marshall and then you had to tight in Randy Mosson. Thaddeus, you had Clyde Edwards Allaire, you had Joe Burrow throwing the ball. You had an offensive line that was the best in college football. You got the perfect storm. Yeah, and you get the perfect storm. You saw it. I mean, the guy threw for 60 touchdowns. That's 60. And look at, and look at some. Look at some of the stats. What he did to Georgia, what he did to Clemson, what he did to Alabama.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
Oh, man. Just some straight up bull diggity what.
Shannon Sharpe
I told you they was going to do.
Unknown Speaker
Saquon Barkley will sit outside final regular season game against the Giants, putting an end to his chase of single season rushing record with Silly. With Philly's postseason seating secured, Nick Ceriani will be resting his starters. Saquon told Philly reporter Devon Caney at 94 Whip, he's at peace with the decision.
Shannon Sharpe
What did I say? The coach asked me, you know, what.
Unknown Speaker
I like to do.
Shannon Sharpe
We had a conversation and he called.
Unknown Speaker
Me back, let me know that we're.
Shannon Sharpe
Probably going to be resting.
Unknown Speaker
And my reaction was kind of like.
Shannon Sharpe
I told my family, obviously my family.
Unknown Speaker
Probably wanted a little bit more than.
Shannon Sharpe
Me, but at the end of the.
Unknown Speaker
Day, the most important thing is winning football games and winning the playoffs.
Shannon Sharpe
So I got a bigger goal in mind.
Unknown Speaker
Anyway.
Shannon Sharpe
Even.
Unknown Speaker
Even.
Shannon Sharpe
Listen, that was all PC. That was all PC. I told you what they were going to do. Listen, you have a player in Saquon Barkley that is on a historic season, on a historic run. Now, I understand the bigger picture, obviously, is getting, getting to the. Getting the Lombardi Trophy.
Unknown Speaker
You know, you can do both.
Shannon Sharpe
You can do both. You can do. There's a milestone that he has a chance of reaching. And we talk about, oh, we, we resting our starters. I told you they were going to do that. I knew they were going to do them like that. I knew it. I knew it.
Unknown Speaker
Ocho. I. And I'm not. I'm speaking from experience. We had a very similar situation with Terrell Davis.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
Terrell Davis need 170. 171 yards. Yes, sir, 170. Anyway, he got one he needed. The last game of the season, we had home field sold up, right? We're 13 and 2. The worst we could be was 13 and 3. The jets couldn't catch us because they were 12 and 4. The best they could be was 12 and 4. We had home field sold up. Offensive line say we want that record. Well, hell, we td. They say they want it. Let's go get it. Went and got 178 my final game. And guess what happened in 98? Ocho and he went, ran for 199 against Miami. The first game blew Them out. He was out the third quarter. Ran for about buck 50 against the jets in that game and then went over 100 again against Atlanta. Right? So it could be. They make it seem like, well, if he play in the final game, we. We. And he might get. Bro. He might get dinged in the first play of the other regular season to get the playoffs. You can't look at it like that. He'll run it back. You play football. I'm getting. I tell you what. It cost y'all $5 million for me to sit out, or I'm gonna raise. Holding hand. Give me five meals. I shut it down, and I sit down. I'll get something out of this.
Shannon Sharpe
That's too close, though. That's too close even.
Unknown Speaker
I need 5 million, Ocho. I'm like, what Denzel say, I'm leaving with something. Yeah, I'm leaving with something.
Shannon Sharpe
I would say, quiet. I would have said, listen, you can rest the starter. But I'm not resting. I'm gonna play.
Unknown Speaker
Hey, I'm a backup. I'm gonna play. Yeah. Ocho, do you understand how close that is? He's 101 yards. Jonathan Taylor just ran for 125. The east is 125 against the Giants. And plus, I want to stick it to him. I want demaros. I want Sean or whatever his name is, the general manager. I want him to see.
Shannon Sharpe
That would have been perfect. Can you imagine NFL rushing record against the team that let you go, against the team that gave up on you? Against a team that said, you know, we don't really value not only you, but the position you play in, which you can do for us.
Unknown Speaker
Yes, I would love.
Shannon Sharpe
I would love that. Come on, man. And I think, you know, honestly, I think that call is coming. Coming up from. From somewhere else. And look at Tom Brady somewhere else.
Unknown Speaker
When Tom Brady broke that record, they didn't have nothing to play for against the Giants.
Shannon Sharpe
No, it didn't.
Unknown Speaker
Tom Brady went out there and got the record. Randy Moss went out there and got the record.
Shannon Sharpe
Ain't had nothing to play for now.
Unknown Speaker
Okay? They lost the super bowl, but do you think them playing in that game had anything one doesn't have? Y'all trying to make it exclusive. Well, if we do this, we can't do that. Nah, man, he better than me. Cause I'm like, Bro, 101 yards.
Shannon Sharpe
As soon as the first offensive series would have happened, I would have been out there with my helmet on.
Unknown Speaker
Hey, hey. I was like, hey, guys, I got. I got a Hundred thousand. If we get this record by the half, each offensive line, we get a hundred thousand. As a matter of fact, everybody on the offense, I got 105 for you. Cause guess what, Ocho, when you sign, when you, when you go to that autograph signing now, you, you the single season rushing leaguer and you write 2106 or you write 2120, you make that back in one signing.
Shannon Sharpe
You don't understand your life, your life. Can you listen? Saquon is already that boy anyway. Yes. Happen through his life. If he gets that Russian record.
Unknown Speaker
Ocho, I'm. Listen, I'm telling you because I don't, like I said, I don't sign that much guys. I only sign about once every five years. I'm good. But when you put that insignia now, you could just get the names. Okay? Saquon Barkley, 26, now single season Russia leader. Oh, that extra. That extra. That extra.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
Every inscription is extra. Op, O, P, O, y, extra. If he's forced enough to make it in the hall of Fame hof, that's extra. Excellent. Yeah. Oh, man, please.
Shannon Sharpe
And then I have a question. Huh. In the history of the NFL when it comes to running backs, has there been any to go back to back 2,000 yard seasons?
Unknown Speaker
No, there's never been a 2,000 yard. No. Derrick Henry had the best chance. Derrick Henry had about 1100 yards in nine games and he got hurt. He went 2000. He was on another historical. He was ahead of the pace in which he rushed for 2000, but he got dinged and missed.
Shannon Sharpe
My whole point of why when you have the opportunity to do it, to make a change, to make a difference, to make history, you take it.
Unknown Speaker
Yes, take it.
Shannon Sharpe
Because you're not going to get the opportunity again. The chances of doing this again are slim to none. Slim to none. But it is what it is. I'm happy.
Unknown Speaker
Think about it. The NFL is over 100 years old. I would have had the greatest single season rushing in NFL history. The greatest. Okay, somebody break that record. But you know who record they broke? Mine. That's who record they broke. That's just like. I'm just being honest, guys. I'm just being honest. I'm just too close. I, I, I honestly, I'm just too close. 101 yards and he played his tail off. He probably looking back like, man, man, some of those games that I, I went out and let the other guys, I could have. It might have been a situation. I've been only like 50 yards and then 50. They might have let Me get it.
Shannon Sharpe
I just hope, I just hope they make a run in the playoffs. I hope they make a run in the playoffs. Especially taking this route, obviously, resting the starters. I want, I want, I want, I want the Eagles to make a run because. Yeah, to me. Or as for Saquon to say the rest and have the chances of getting an individual accomplishment of that magnitude when he's the leading rush of all time and the first round, you mean to tell me, God damn, we going home And I set out and I rested for this shit? Oh, hell no.
Unknown Speaker
I mean, I'm old enough, I'm old enough to remember when Ed broke the record in 1984. Yeah. So to like to see a record and to see somebody break it again. I'm old. When, when, When Danny Marino. Because those two records happened in the same year. Danny threw for 5000, Ed ran for 2100. That happened the same year, 1984. I'm old enough to remember when Peyton broke the record, broke the touchdown record. He threw 49, Marino had 48. And then Tom Brady in 2007 through 2000 through 50. And to see, like to see the records, you know, happen. You know, I remember when Gastono, when Gaston broke the slack record. I mean, just to see they're like. Not just like. Well, I was alive, but I saw it. I remember it. Man, damn, Saquon, you done ruined my week. I started hearing whistle. I don't know. We gonna talk to Brass.
Shannon Sharpe
That's why I said what I said last week. I know, I know the game. I know how they gonna play. They gonna play. They gonna play.
Unknown Speaker
Well, he already got it. He already got, he got the money. He got, you know, he had 500,000 if he's first team all pro. He had another, what, 250 for the pro Bowl. He had. If they, if another fight he's at, he's made 1.2 or 1.250.
Shannon Sharpe
But even forget the money, forget the incentive that he's already reached. I'm talking about the milestone of being the all time leading rusher in NFL history. You don't pass up that opportunity because it's not, it's not going to come again unless you playing fucking Madden. You can't miss that.
Unknown Speaker
So many things have to go right. And you were running back, Ocho. Think about it. That man got 300 plus carries, okay? That's running the football. How many passes have he called? Okay, Hitting the ground, getting tired. I understand the ones that he did, but what about. I ain't talking about just the one tackle. What about they hit him, he hit the dirt. And then another two, three guys fall on top of his ass.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
Ah, hell no. Give me that record. Damn, y'all. I'm sorry, Chat, but I really wanted to get it. I mean, I ain't got. Look, I'm a fan of the game. I'm a fan of history. And I just like. I like to see records broken. I really do. Sorry, Ed. I was chilling. I was cheering for him too. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
And Saquon is the right person. A good dude. Real good, thorough dude.
Unknown Speaker
Who that?
Shannon Sharpe
Saquon. He's the right person.
Unknown Speaker
I don't. I don't really know him that well. You know, go to the super bowl and you see a lot of these young guys, but he seemed like a stand up dude to me. I want to break the record real thorough.
Shannon Sharpe
Real thorough.
Unknown Speaker
And I was gonna be the first. When he broke the record. I be waiting. And as soon as he broke the record, I was gonna hit dial on Ed's number. Oh, man, the volume.
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Club Shay Shay: Nightcap - Hour 1 Summary
Podcast Information:
1. Introduction and Overview [04:38]
The episode kicks off with Shannon Sharpe welcoming listeners to another installment of "Nightcap." The primary focus for this episode revolves around recent College Football Playoff (CFP) Quarterfinals, specifically analyzing the Ohio State Buckeyes' decisive victory over the Oregon Ducks and the Texas Longhorns' thrilling double-overtime win against Arizona State.
2. Moment of Silence for New Orleans [04:16 - 04:14]
Before delving into the football discussions, Shannon Sharpe addresses a somber note, dedicating a moment of silence to honor those impacted by a tragic act of terrorism in New Orleans. He emphasizes the importance of vigilance without succumbing to fear, offering heartfelt condolences to the affected families and the community.
Shannon Sharpe [04:14]: "We want to take a few moments to pause to heartfelt condolences to those that were impacted by this. We pray that you gain comfort and understanding."
3. Ohio State vs. Oregon Game Analysis [04:38 - 13:53]
Shannon Sharpe and guest Chad Ochocinco Johnson dissect Ohio State's impressive 41-21 win over the Oregon Ducks in the Rose Bowl. Sharpe highlights the dominance Ohio State exhibited, noting it was one of the most significant upsets against the nation's top team in recent memory.
Shannon Sharpe [05:10]: "I think the week off did more harm than good for Oregon. They were too rusty, and there was no room for recovery against a team like Ohio State."
Key Points:
Ohio State's Performance: Strong running game, effective passing, and robust defense led to a comfortable 20-point lead.
Unknown Speaker [10:56]: "Ohio State looked very, very well. They ran the ball well, they threw the ball well, they stopped."
Player Highlights:
Jeremiah Smith: A standout freshman receiver with seven catches for 187 yards and two touchdowns. Sharpe compares his potential to that of Julio Jones during his Alabama days.
Shannon Sharpe [29:56]: "Jeremiah Smith is no different than Julio Jones when he was at Alabama."
Will Howard: Quarterback Will Howard threw for 319 yards and three touchdowns, showcasing his consistent performance with back-to-back 300+ passing yard games.
Running Backs: Will Howard's running attack accumulated 181 yards and two touchdowns on 31 rushes, effectively balancing the offense.
Ohio State's Talent Pipeline: Sharpe and Aj discuss Ohio State’s continuous production of top-tier talent, questioning why such a talented team has yet to secure a national championship.
Unknown Speaker [15:44]: "That's 10 first-round picks right there."
4. Texas vs. Arizona State Game Reaction [13:53 - 33:12]
The conversation shifts to the Texas Longhorns' exhilarating 39-31 double-overtime victory over Arizona State in the Peach Bowl. Sharpe praises the game's intensity and the strategic decisions made by Texas, despite facing adversity with missed field goals and a late comeback attempt by Arizona State.
Key Points:
Game Dynamics: Texas squandered a 16-point lead in the fourth quarter but managed to clinch the win in double overtime.
Unknown Speaker [33:12]: "This was a double-overtime thriller. Texas missed two field goals but still escaped with the win."
Player Performances:
Cam Howard (Nicknamed "Scat Pack"): Texas running back Cam Howard delivered a standout performance, earning the Peach Bowl Offensive Player of the Game despite Arizona State's loss.
Unknown Speaker [51:27]: "Scat Pack did something that you don't see very often."
Quinn Ewers: Quarterback Quinn Ewers threw for 320 yards and three touchdowns, though he struggled with consistency and decision-making in crucial moments.
Coaching Decisions: Sharpe critiques coaching strategies, especially Arizona State's decision to attempt a high-risk pass on fourth down, which led to critical turnovers.
Shannon Sharpe [38:11]: "They can't get beat on 4th and 13, Ocho. You cannot."
5. Discussions on Team Dynamics and Coaching [33:12 - 66:00]
Sharpe and his guest delve deeper into the dynamics of successful football programs, comparing Ohio State's talent with Alabama’s sustained championship success. They discuss the implications of having high-caliber players year after year and the challenges coaches face in maximizing team potential.
Key Points:
Comparative Analysis: Despite generating top NFL talent, Ohio State hasn't captured a national championship, contrasting with Alabama's recent dominance.
Shannon Sharpe [16:22]: "Alabama has won six national championships in the last 15 years, while Ohio State hasn't yet."
Recruitment and Player Retention: The hosts examine how Ohio State manages to attract and retain top-tier talent, questioning the decisions leading to player transfers and how it impacts team performance.
Unknown Speaker [18:00]: "Ohio State also had Joe Burrow. He transferred, leaves."
Future Prospects: They speculate on future performances, the potential for records to be broken, and the importance of balancing individual achievements with team success.
6. Player Achievements and Records [66:00 - 85:53]
The episode transitions into a passionate discussion about individual player milestones, with a focus on Saquon Barkley's pursuit of the single-season rushing record and Jeremiah Smith's rising trajectory.
Key Points:
Saquon Barkley’s Record Chase: Barkley is on the verge of breaking the single-season rushing record but faces obstacles due to coaching decisions to rest starters, prioritizing team success over individual accolades.
Shannon Sharpe [76:35]: "I'm not going to rest. I'm gonna play. I want that single-season rushing record."
Jeremiah Smith’s Potential: Sharpe hails Smith’s versatility and compares him to NFL legends, predicting he’ll be a top draft pick in the future.
Shannon Sharpe [29:56]: "Jeremiah Smith will be the number one pick in the draft."
Quinn Ewers’ Future: The conversation touches on Ewers’ performance and the rumors surrounding his transfer, debating his readiness for the NFL.
Unknown Speaker [60:18]: "Quinn Ewers has received a $6 million offer to enter the transfer portal."
7. Defensive Strategies and Game Decisions [85:53 - 84:47]
Sharpe and his guest analyze defensive plays from recent games, emphasizing the importance of discipline and decision-making in critical moments. They critique Arizona State’s defensive lapses that allowed key offensive plays by Texas.
Shannon Sharpe [45:11]: "You can't get beat on 4th and 13, Ocho. You cannot."
8. Closing Remarks [84:23 - 89:19]
As the episode nears its end, Shannon Sharpe reflects on the importance of seizing opportunities to achieve greatness, urging players to prioritize significant milestones even amidst team strategies and coaching decisions.
Shannon Sharpe [81:54]: "When you have the opportunity to do it, take it. You're not going to get the opportunity again."
Conclusion
In this episode of "Nightcap," Shannon Sharpe and guest Chad Ochocinco Johnson provide an in-depth analysis of recent CFP Quarterfinal games, spotlighting Ohio State's dominant performance and Texas's resilient victory. They navigate through discussions on team dynamics, player achievements, and the intricate balance between individual accolades and team success. Additionally, Sharpe offers a poignant message of solidarity for the New Orleans community affected by tragedy, underscoring the unifying power of sports amidst adversity.
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