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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Listen, this is the importance of having a quarterback. Huh? This is important to have a quarterback obviously considered a gunslinger mvp, a Super bowl winning quarterback. And you can make a team one dimensional. They couldn't run the ball, but they threw that motherfucker all over. I'm sorry. They threw the ball all over the place. They did what they wanted to do. Puka. Puka. Eden devonte. Listen to. I'm not even. What was Tampa Bay doing? Why are they leaving? Devonte Adams singled up over there in man to man knowing goodwill. Ain't nobody going to be able to stick with him. He. He's scoring touchdowns all over the place.
Shannon Sharp
Making it look easy and make.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Making it look really easy. Especially if you watch, if you watch it from tv like, well, God damn.
Shannon Sharp
You know he gonna hit you. Oo they know he gonna hit her.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
With that pause every, every time. Hey, listen. And once you relax, once he hits with that heavy. Once you relax, he take off. Is. Is a. It's a done deal. But, but outside of that, man, they, they look really good, man. They look really, really good. Really, really sharp. Matt Stafford is good, huh? The man didn't. Man didn't play and he ain't even have. He didn't even go to training camp.
Shannon Sharp
Nope.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He didn't even go to training camp. So to be able to come out here and play like this all season long. You know what? They 9 and 2 now, right?
Shannon Sharp
92. Best record in the, in the NFC.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, they gonna be hell to deal with, boy. They're gonna be coming out of that NFC now.
Shannon Sharp
Cause Seattle look good. I mean that, that division. You got them, you got Seattle and you got the 49ers. The 49ers have the best record within the division. They're four and one in the division. Yeah, so they have the best record. They just don't have the best overall record. They did get purdy back. Christian McCaffrey is healthy. They're doing a lot with Kittle and Iuk. It's gonna be interesting when they, if they, when they get Pierce all back, if he's coming. Defensively, they're trying to, you know, trying to mix and match. They were not their two best players, Fred Warner and, and Nick Bosa, but they're making it for some, somehow, some way, they're making it work. But the Rams make light work of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers tonight run their record to 9 and 2 thanks to a 347 victory over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Tampa falls to 6 and 5. Baker Mayfield was injured in the ball game. Um, obviously he's going to probably get an MRI and see what's going on with that shoulder. Hopefully it's not something that's. But Tampa, Tampa look didn't look good tonight. They couldn't run the football. They didn't throw the ball. They didn't really do anything well. And that has a lot to do with the Rams. Not so much what they didn't do.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But around put so much pressure. They applied so much pressure out the gate.
Shannon Sharp
Yeah. Oh, they can get after you now.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, yeah, absolutely. So they kept Bacon Mayfield uncomfortable, didn't allow him to sit in the pocket. He had to run and scramble for his life. He had to extend plays. He did the best he could, but at the end of the day, it was nearly not enough. Not even close.
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That's all we're gonna do with that because here's the game that everybody wants to talk about. The Browns and beat the Las Vegas Raiders by the score of 24 to 10. Shador Sanders became the 42nd quarterback to start a game for the Browns since they came back into the league in 1999. He also became the first Browns quarterback to win his first career start in the NFL since Eric Zer did it back in 1995. The victory ended a 17 game losing streak for Browns in games in which the quarterback was making their first career start. That was the longest streak by any franchise since 1950 when quarterback starts were first recorded. The win snapped a 13 game road losing streak for the Browns, which was also the longest active streak in the NFL and their second longest in franchise history. Shador was 11 of 2200 nine yards with one touchdown and an interception. He was, look, they didn't run the football worth of nothing. 27 rushes, 67 yards. Yeah, but Ocho, his ability and he's looking the thing that you have to like about him. He's looking to push the ball down the field. Absolutely realized I don't catch big fish fishing around the shore.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right.
Shannon Sharp
I need to cast way out there. You see he rolls out of the pocket, throws it over the top.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharp
He's going to give those guys an opportunity to make plays. I was very impressed with him and I know what everybody said. It wasn't nobody but the Raiders, but had they lost, he was gonna say, well, he can't beat the Raiders. How is he gonna beat this team? That team? Well, we won't know how he'll do against this team or that team. Cause we know the team that he played today, he put foots in them. Go ahead. Oh, listen.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It was a Raiders. It was Raiders. But what I saw from the door tonight, I mean tonight it looked good. There's, there's room for improvement. There's some, there's some things that he could do. Well. He would also need his, his supporting cast to help him out. Jerry, Judy, I know you want a dead leg, baby, but just go ahead and get a young bull. Just go ahead and get out of bounds, get them yards. There were some throws I know Shadow would probably want to have back, especially that interception, you know, staring down Staring down that stick route right at the snap of the ball outside. Especially when you can't run the ball. When you can't run the ball and make it one dimensional. It's very, very difficult. Is very, very difficult. But they were, they were, they were able to pull the win off. I'm sure Shador is probably not happy, glad he got the win, but there's a lot of stuff you can go back and look at and he'll watch film and see where he can improve on. Improve in certain areas. And I like the fact that he not only got a start, he made history today. He made history today and he gets to build on that going into next week. I'm not sure what's going to happen with Stefanski if Dylan Gabriel's healthy, if he's going to be the starter or not. You know how they stuff like that is up in the air. So. I like the way he looked today. I mean, I'm excited for him. I'm excited for him because the offense looked different. It just looked different.
Shannon Sharp
You know, they had a bounce about him. If you think about it. They got. And the defense did their part. They sacked Geno Smith 10 times. Ocho 10, it was 10, 10 miles. Garrett had three miles. Garrett has 18 sacks with six games to play.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You need five more, right?
Shannon Sharp
Five more to break your record. If you keep singling him, he gonna get 30.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yep.
Shannon Sharp
He's got 13 sacks in his last four games.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, that's crazy.
Shannon Sharp
Yeah. Yeah. He gets in that sprinter stance. He get down like a track and get down on all fours. Yeah, he, he come and hunt your quarterback. But I, I, I, I like, I like the fact that Shador was looking to push the ball down the field.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharp
And I think that's what they needed, guys, because having been a receiver, bro, I want to get down the field.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharp
I want to, hey, thought about, hey, look, I want to catch the ball. But all this shallow cross and all these bubble screens and all that. But come on, man. Yeah, it's hard to methodically go down the field. Oo, you know, we're going to talk about this. The Chiefs going down the field, they had 13, 17, 12, and they kicking field goals. But it's hard, especially when you got a young quarterback.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharp
And to ask him to be perfect. Tom Brady could play like that. That's Tom Brady.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharp
He's not going to make those mistakes. But you're asking a first or second year guy, young quarterback to say, okay, we want you to be. Basically, we end up being somewhere of 25 of 33 for a 275 yard three touchdown. Nah, you're asking him to do too much. Let him take some chances. And I thought Shador did a great job of getting outside the pocket on the one they scored on Ocho. Yeah, he did a great job. He goes back, he, he's holding the safety just like this here. And then the last second he turns. And so by the time the guy catches and gets up, the safety, like, hold on, if I come downhill, I ain't gonna get there. So let me try to get him at a. No, I ain't gonna be able to get him because basically when he hit that scene, Mocho. Yeah, it was Good Night Irene.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It was a rap. Yeah, it was.
Shannon Sharp
But level to 20, I mean, and he was like, hey, that's one week of starting. Imagine when I get an off season.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharp
Imagine when they call plays specifically for me. Yeah, imagine.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharp
Who's that? John Lynn said, imagine all the people. But I thought he played really well. I thought he was really poised. I thought, I know it was great to see his dad was in attendance and time was like, well, I don't know, man, you know, Goodwill time wasn't missing that one for nothing in the world. They could have been playing if Colorado had a game today. Yeah, Ty would like, man, you know, hey, I, I ain't feeling too well. It would, it would have. Snucker was snuck out here to Vegas to watch his son. And that was, that was great because, you know, this is really the first time that his dad's not coaching him. His dad's not around. Picking up the phone is one thing, but being able to have a conversation face to face is something entirely different. But I was really, really pleased with the way he played. I thought he threw the ball really, really well. Isaiah Bond did a great job. Sampson. What he called that. Yet I longed at 66 yarder like you said, Jerry. Judy, bro, did you think he was like. I mean, he was just oblivious, like, ain't nobody behind me.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, he. Listen, I don't know what Judy would think about. I don't know how you forget about the goddamn backside support, you know, pursuit, you know they coming now you, you know they coming. Hey, listen, Unc, I'm not sure he was. It was three defenders in front of him.
Shannon Sharp
Yes.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He was getting ready to dead leg somebody. I, I, I, I know the setup, but you got to understand, you got to have self awareness, understand your surroundings, man. Get that thing, get out. Make a business decision or take your ass out of bounds, one or the other.
Shannon Sharp
Yeah, yeah, get out of bounds. But look, I know the receivers are happy because he's giving them opportunity to make plays over the top. All that shallow cross and bubble screens and all that. As we talked about earlier, Ocho, this gives him an opportunity to push the ball down the field and give them an opportunity to make some big plays after the game. Kevin Stefanski was non committal on the starting quarterback for next Sunday's home game against the 49ers. Ocho. The video has gone viral online. Here's Stefanski handing out game balls in the locker room after the game. Stayed resilient together like I told you we needed to, right? Stay resilient together. And we fought together. How about Gage's big punt return on specialty? How about Corey. Every single time you're out there pinning those guys, doing your job.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Great.
Shannon Sharp
Corey Moore. Offense wasn't perfect. Wasn't perfect. How about that big play by Sam at the end? IB Huge play. Q. Huge play. Harold making a big play. And then another rookie making his first start. Nice job, Shadour. Well done. There's that old saying, save the best for last. How about that defensive. Holy is what I have to say about that. 10 sacks by our defense. 10 sacks. Okay, I got one ball in my hand. Okay. I got a guy, he's got to get a cold every week. Okay? He had a cold this week, wasn't feeling himself three sacks, which gives him 18 on the season through 11 games. Through 11 games, which breaks his own Browns record. Miles Garrett.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Come on, man.
Shannon Sharp
So I'll see you guys in tomorrow. Hey, I'll see you Wednesday. So hold on. A guy making his first start, a guy that you didn't really want to start, a guy that you didn't even want in your organization.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right? Right.
Shannon Sharp
And that's all he get. Great job.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. That's okay.
Shannon Sharp
He don't get no game ball.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, he don't get no game ball. That wasn't his pick. That's not what they want. They don't want him to succeed. You know that. And no, no disrespect. The owner told you. The owner told you to himself. Even the head coach. The head coach guy. The head coach's guy is Dylan Gabriel. We all understand that. Listen, didn't. Didn't Shador make history tonight?
Shannon Sharp
Yes.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
First Browns quarterback as a rookie to start and win after, what, since what, 17?
Shannon Sharp
I mean, you got to think about O.O. they've had 42 starting quarterbacks since 1999.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right?
Shannon Sharp
No quarterback Making his first start.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharp
The last 17 have said we didn't do. Get it. They didn't get it done.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, listen, that didn't work.
Shannon Sharp
The game ball, Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It's clear as day now. It's clear as day. Like, I mean, we've been going back and forth about this over and over. Let nitpicking here and there and people. People say, oh, they hate. They're not hating. Oh, Dylan Gables, Listen, all that.
Julian Edelman
We.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We know what the play is. You. You. The writing is on the wall. It's always been in the wall. When. When the owner came out and said what he said about this not being my pick. This is brother. Drew Barry. Drew Barry, right?
Shannon Sharp
Is that how you say Andrew Barry?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Andrew Barry. Excuse me, Andrew Barry. It was. It was his pick. It was his. His idea. I mean, we know what it is. You know, the odds are stacked against you. The odds are stacked against you. When opportunity presents itself, he has to go out there and do what he did. Do what he did. The odds were stacked against him. He went out there, had a. A good game today. Much, much more room for improvement. But he gave him the opportunity to win. He allows him to have a different style of offensive play calling when he's out there playing, and that's all he can do.
Shannon Sharp
Ojo. I ain't. I ain't say you got to get a man a car. I ain't say that. I ain't say you got to pick the man up on it. I ain't saying the team need to pick him up on his shoulders and carry him off the field. But that little bit. Oh, you talk about big time catch.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hold on.
Shannon Sharp
And this is not a knock on you, Harold Fanning, so don't. Please don't take it this way. He had four catches for 40 yards. I mean, he made two big. I mean, Shador played his ass off. Level 20. Yay. Had an interception. I thought he was very good. I thought he was very good with his eyes. I thought he was very good with his feet. Everything was attached. And that's all you got for the man. Miles Garrett deserved five. All the football that you brought to Clegas give to him. Say, son, we gonna ship all. All four of these damn footballs to your house in Cleveland. Miles Garrett. Whatever Miles Garrett want. As a matter of fact, Miles, you underpaid. Take your ass back in there. Getting more. Hey, you need to get 50 million. Yeah. And he'll get this record as long as the Browns are able to keep the game close.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
Shannon Sharp
Where teams can't just run. Run the ball, right. Excuse me. Excuse me. As long as they. As long as you see, he got five last week. Why?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, yeah.
Shannon Sharp
Because for the large part, a large portion of the game, they had to lead. So if his team got the lead on what you got to do, Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They got to throw the ball, get.
Shannon Sharp
Back in the game, right? Well, you see what happened tonight. They jumped out on 14 other 14, three. Now you got the plans to. You can't. First of all, your run game is not good enough and your offensive line, but not good enough to blow people off the ball. So you got to throw it right. And they got a good enough defensive line that you can't just double. I'm doubling Miles Garrett. Somebody else might get three sack, but it ain't gonna be him.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Him? Yeah.
Shannon Sharp
Cause he's a guy that you. Game plan, Ocho. We going there on Wednesdays. They got his circle. He got red ink around him. This is the guy that if we don't block, he gonna tear our ass up. He will destroy our game plan. Run or pass.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharp
With that being said, that man couldn't flip. Should do a football.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ocho, you know, the man wasn't flipping him no football, huh? You know what I mean? That. That is not the individual that they want at the helm. They made that clear a long time ago. The game that they've been playing in training camp, him not getting reps. We understand that. So therefore, them you actually wanting him to give him credit after a game that ain't happening. So to me, it's not surprising to me, because, okay, we already know. We already know what it is. We know. We know you're not our guy. I think Shador even knows that as well. He's not tripping. I'm gonna prepare myself so when the opportunity presents itself, the end result looks like today, the most important stat that w. That's all that matters on listen on the next week, I see you in.
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Shannon Sharp
Oo. You and I have both been in situation and ch. I know y' all probably the last guy that y' all want to hear dating advice from, but we've all had. We've all had the young lady. Oo. She was gorgeous. Drop dead gorgeous.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Come on.
Shannon Sharp
Wait.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Take your time.
Shannon Sharp
She. I wanted her so bad.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes. Yes.
Shannon Sharp
But when it didn't work out, I realized the other one, she was the best for me. And I needed to give her credit because the one that I wanted.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right.
Shannon Sharp
It didn't work out. I understand Stefanski want Dylan Gabriel, but you got to understand the guy now is the best for you, and it's going to give you the best opportunity to win because he is unafraid to push the ball down the field.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right.
Shannon Sharp
Because in this league, that's how you win big plays. I just. I don't get it, Ocho. Sometimes you gotta. Like Coach used to tell him, sometimes I gotta fool them. Sometimes you gotta lie to your team.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharp
Even if you don't like Shador, even if you won't, Dylan Gabriel, you won't commit. I get all that and I get the semantics. I get the. The. The scheme of it, Ocho. Right. I don't want. I want them to prepare for both knowing damn well Dylan Gabriel ain't gonna see that field anytime soon. I get all of that.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right.
Shannon Sharp
But this notion that this thing is even close, this notion that it just was just a whole. I mean, a whole. A whole hum.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Performance. Right.
Shannon Sharp
The guy got no snaps with the guys that he played with today until Wednesday of last week.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharp
And he does that on the road in a hostile environment, and all you got for him is that.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. I mean, that's what it is. And one Thing about it. Listen, you have to understand. Coaches have egos, too. The owner has an ego, too. The owner and the coach, not in cahoots, but they both wanted their quarterback. They got their quarterback in the third round. Things and things. Things happen. Things didn't work out. Dylan Gabriel's hurt right now. There is no way in hell they gonna sit on their hands and show the world that they made a mistake. Ain't no way. Ain't no way in hell that's not happening.
Shannon Sharp
It happens. Ocho all made mistakes. The. The thing is not making a mistake. Do you learn from it? Because remember, Ocho, mistakes without consequences, there's no lesson to be learned.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Wait, you have to understand. But how many consequences have they had in the last, what, 40, 40 some years? This is. This is the 45th start. This is the 45th starting quarterback for the Cleveland Browns since 19. I don't even know.
Shannon Sharp
1999. This is the 42nd. 42nd different starting quarterback.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's 40 some quarterbacks. So obviously, they haven't learned their lesson regards to who the owner is, who grows, who the head coach is, and that's how they see fit. We're going to continue to prove that we made the right pick in the third round by doing goddamn Shador Sanders somewhat of an injustice. And what they're trying to do is. Is likely likelihood is probably going to backfire. It's probably going to backfire and not work in their favor.
Shannon Sharp
All I'm saying is this. I believe the young man played well enough today to earn another start. No matter what you think about it, whether you like him or dislike him, whether you like his brashness, his arrogance or his cockiness or whatever the case may be, I don't know whether you like or dislike his father. All I know is he played well enough today and chat. Hey, Chad. Cleveland Browns fans, at any point in time did Dylan Gabriel play in his starts as well as Shador played today? That's all I'm asking. That's what you have to look at when you judge a starter. Ocho, I'm not saying a starter can lose. They said a starter can't lose his job due to injury. Mike Shanahan said a starter can lose his job because if the guy comes in and he's playing better than you at the time you got injured, that is our new starter.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, I have a question. Yes, I have a question. Before Dylan Gabriel had that concussion, he played six games, right? He plays in six games?
Shannon Sharp
Yes, the best of my knowledge, yes.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay, six games. So I mean it would be hard to compare. Compare the two based on real time, real NFL games until we have Shador play sick games as well. Right. See the. The point is will Stefanski in that organization allows Shador to continue to play their game because they don't want him to prove them wrong. That's what they don't want. That's why I think the game that Steph Stephanie is going to play, is he going to find out is Dylan Gabriel. Will he be able to go this week? So we're not on the wrong. On the, on the wrong side of being right?
Shannon Sharp
Wait, how about being wrong Ojo? Instead of them, instead of him. Let him play cuz maybe he proves you right. Maybe all of a sudden he flops. I don't believe he will. I believe that. I believe the kid had two months moxy. I believe that he believes and the way he was brought up in and what his dad has instilled in him and he wants to be great not because of his father. He's like my father did what he did. Yeah, but he can't throw no passes for me.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No.
Shannon Sharp
He can't slide the line. He can't read anything for me. Everything that I'm getting now is be. Is my own. I'm doing this sh. Sanders and I love my father. I love the last name that he bestowed upon me. But at the end of the day he can't throw no passes.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You do realize that owner and that head coach don't want to be made to look like a fool by putting 12 out there and having 12 continuously win you games. You do realize that, right?
Shannon Sharp
Make me look like a fool to help me get to the playoffs. Make me look like a fool and make me be a consistent winner. Make me look like a damn fool and maybe potentially get me to the man. Do you look, do you know if, if that, if, if Shadow where to get that, get that team into the playoffs, get to the AFC Championship game. I'm not talking about this year. I'm talking about. Let's just say in the next five years, right? If he were to do that and take that team to a Super bowl, they'll build a statue. Yeah, I mean it'll be, it'll be Jim Brown, Otto Graham, Shadow Sanders.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You, you do realize the owner would look like a fool? You do realize the fancy will look like a fool. They do not want young bulls to succeed.
Shannon Sharp
Well, the fans think they're damn fooled now to begin with. So it don't matter what you look like. They already Think you are.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharp
All you would do by keeping this going because, you know, sometimes you got to keep your mouth closed because people won't know how big a damn fool you are because the boy. Keep your mouth closed. Sometime people might thank you a fool, but if you open your mouth, you're you. Remove all doubt.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharp
So the Cleveland fans, they don't hold Mr. Haslam and Stefanski in the highest regards. So there's not a whole lot they can do to change that. Now if you want to. If not, if you really wanted to go booing and carrying on, take the young man out of the. Take the young man. Don't let him start next week.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, what now, you know the game these folk play. You understand?
Shannon Sharp
You, you.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You've been around long enough so for. For him to have the game, he had right to not only get a game ball, for Stefanski to get in front of the media and still be non committal to who's gonna be the star of the next week. What does that tell you? We in goddamn week 12. We going into week 13. There's no need to be playing these mind games as if we ain't got damn training camp. You don't know who to fucking start. I'm sorry. You don't know who the starter is going to be. It's a game. It's a game at this point because that's not who you actually wanted. The helm, playing quarterback for your franchise because you don't want to look like a goddamn fool.
Shannon Sharp
Oh, there are very few people. There are very, very few people with the first person that razzed their berry.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Wait, who then?
Shannon Sharp
My grandma say. My grandma said, hey, bring that to me.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Say that to me.
Shannon Sharp
There are very few people that are in that are with the person that initially razzed their berry.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Don't worry about.
Shannon Sharp
You'll be driving tomorrow.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So you're like, damn, I ain't never heard that one before.
Shannon Sharp
You know, don't worry about it. But anyway, hold on, hold on.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, no. You don't skip over me like that. Give it to me in English now.
Shannon Sharp
Ocho a berry, right?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I know the berry is juice. Yeah, Juice.
Shannon Sharp
Yeah, yeah.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay.
Shannon Sharp
Yes.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay.
Shannon Sharp
A lot. How many people that are married or in a serious relationship, right. That person that they're in that relationship, right? That is the first person that piqued their curiosity. That is the first person that they love. That is the first person that they wanted to be with. Okay, so why third, fourth, fifth? But I'm. That's what I'm saying. Okay, I get it.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharp
So in a situation like that, okay, I might. But you know what? Just for GP Just to endure to door. Unbelievable job. Game ball for you, right?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes, yes, yes. Yeah. You do that when it's actually the person you actually want. That's. That's a difference. You understand?
Shannon Sharp
That's it. Hold on.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You're using that analogy wrong, too.
Shannon Sharp
No, because my grandma used to say. My grandma used to say what you said, Barry.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It's cherry.
Shannon Sharp
No, raspberry. You don't razz my berry, which means he don't excite me. Don't worry about it, Ocho. You'll get it.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, that. Hey, that must be some downside I ain't never heard.
Shannon Sharp
Of course it is. Of course.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm saying down here, it's. It's more like cherry. The first pop. My cherry. So you.
Shannon Sharp
Yeah, okay. You don't rat. You don't razz my bear. You don't excite me.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I like that. I like that. I like that. That's different.
Shannon Sharp
I get it. Shador might not. Might not have excited them in the beginning. They was more excited about Dylan Gabriel. Right? But at the end of the day, who makes you wholesome? Who makes you. Who makes your house feel like a home?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right? Who.
Shannon Sharp
When you get excited, when you. When. When you need someone to talk to and say, you know what? I'm gonna love you through all those scars, and I know you got a lot of them, but come lay your head on me, and I'm gonna make it okay. That's what this young man had the potential of doing.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
Shannon Sharp
Give him an opportunity. That's what we. Because a lot of times. I get it. We visual, man. We're very visual.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharp
If you. As far as you're a big. What do I see, man, he could throw the ball 100. That's why they make so many mistakes at the quarterback position, Ocho, because what can he do? He can throw the ball 80 yards. I saw him on one knee, throw the ball 60 yards and hit the upright.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ain't got nothing to do.
Shannon Sharp
How many times he gonna be on one knee? Because if you're down on one knee, that means he down already. So the ball gonna be incomplete. With all that being said, yes. A lot of times we get in awe about what we see sometimes. The aesthetic, beauty, long hair, complexion.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
Shannon Sharp
Body.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
Shannon Sharp
Oh, she got greed degrees stacked on top of the grease, huh? But sometimes it's. What's on the inside is what we can't see.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right.
Shannon Sharp
That's the determining factor. Tom Brady a had no aesthetics. He couldn't run fast. He couldn't jump high. Yes, sir, he, he didn't have. He didn't have no arm like Mahomes or Josh Allen. But what you couldn't see.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes, sir.
Shannon Sharp
Made him deadly. See, sometimes we get. We look at the black mamba. The black mamba is not the most dangerous snake in Africa. It's not as dangerous as the balloon slang or the common brown in Australia.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right.
Shannon Sharp
Or the western or the coastal taipan. But he has the name, you see, the black number. Now, he will attack without provocation. Most snakes that are venomous, they won't attack without provocation. That's what makes him so deadly, because it is one of the few snakes that will attack without provocation. Make it that. Man up. Damn game ball. It ain't your game ball any damn way. Like you buy no footballs. Hey, he got me hot up in here.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I see. Hey, don't, don't, don't let your emotions get the best of you because you think you mad right now. You think you mad right now. Wait until Wednesday and watch the games they play.
Shannon Sharp
Oh, hey, wait, wait, wait.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Wait until Wednesday.
Shannon Sharp
You remember that song Mocho? If you think you're lonely now, wait until the night.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
If you think.
Shannon Sharp
If you think I'm mad now like you say, wait until Wednesday.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
All right.
Shannon Sharp
They talk about Mary Kate cabin. Come out there and says, Dylan Gabriel is taking snap. Boy, I break up everything.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I tell you one thing, you might well get to break it right now. You might as well get to bring it right now. Because you, you, you understand. You understand the NFL, you know the games that they play. Especially when the owners come out at the beginning of the season. Excuse me. At the beginning of the season, matter of fact, in training camp and saying a certain individual is not in draft pick.
Shannon Sharp
He did say that, yes.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, he came out and said it. So what does that. That lets you know already what the player is going to be for the foreseeable future as long as 12 is there. You know what that's like? That's like, you know what a father allowing you to marry his daughter and his daughters always saying, you know what? You is not the one I really wanted. But my father arranges marriage. So I'm here. Oh, she. Oh, nigga, I'm here. That's it. That's. That's all it is.
Shannon Sharp
It's the same thing.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So Shador blocking that out, being able to compartmentalize. Forget all that.
Shannon Sharp
He has to.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm Gonna, hey listen, I'm gonna prepare the same exact way as if you wanted me. So when my opportunity presents itself, it looks like it did today.
Shannon Sharp
Meanwhile, the rest of the locker room seem to have a new sense of optimism. Here's Miles Garrett after the game Talking about the 52 yard bomb that he, that had Miles looking shocked on the sideline because they had the cameras on him. Let's take a listen to what Miles Garrett had to say. Like, I mean he put it up and I'm just like oh God, who was I even going to? I didn't, I wasn't looking down there to see IB and then you know, I'm just looking, I'm like oh God, please. And he drops it in the bucket and he reaches it out. I'm like please just don't fumble into the end zone. So now he reaches out but he is, you know, keeps possession and I'm just like, wow, that there's not many guys in league that can make that throw. So. And that was a, that was a hell of a throw. Know, I hope he can continue to now grow and develop, you know, for making plays like that and he'll take it from there. All of that ultra. I was happy.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharp
Then I was saying like damn, you got a score Sc get that in the end zone.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
Shannon Sharp
I say cuz now somebody else go, they go, they go tush push or they go hand it to the running back if somebody else go get that tub man. Yeah, I mean it was a beautiful throw Ojo.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It was.
Shannon Sharp
I'm talking about, like I said, that's a bucket throw.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, that was dope. And it's funny, I, I, I'm always curious too. When you think about it with him having a game like today, it's the fancy makes the wrong decision, which I know he's going to probably do on Wednesday is a chance even though the season might be gone, him losing the locker room, him, him losing the locker room, players seeing what's going on, understanding what's going on and it's, it's blatant. The veterans will probably say something, they probably won't say anything publicly. But I mean can be bad, it can get, it can get egos. Huh.
Shannon Sharp
I think the thing, the thing is is that the locker room really runs the football team. We know, we know who can play and who can't. Yeah, we do.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah man.
Shannon Sharp
Ain't no secret. We might not ever say it. That's not our place because we don't want to try. We don't Want to cause friction or cause the sentient or division within the locker room. But we know who can play. We see you, we see your ass every damn day.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Every day, every day.
Shannon Sharp
And we see who coaches constantly have to make corrections for. We see, oh, this mofo in the game.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, you do realize, right? Think about this, right? Take. Take the. Take the names out of it. Take the Sanders name out of it. Take the Gabriel name out of it. On what team is any owner, any head coach or anyone in positions of power that did the drafting in that motherfucker. I'm sorry, in the war room. Are they allowing a 5th round pick to outplay a 3rd round pick? In what world? Well, I mean, in what world has that ever happened?
Shannon Sharp
The 49.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And have. And have us looking like a fool.
Shannon Sharp
Brock Purdy beat out Trey Lance. Mr. Relevant beat out the third pick in the draft. But you see the difference? We made a mistake. We own up to the mistake. This guy right here, Mr. Irrelevant, the last pick in the draft. He gives us the best opportunity to win. I understand that. We mortgaged. We gave a cow and a calf, you know, arm and a leg.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
A what?
Shannon Sharp
We gave a cow and a calf an arm and a leg. We gave all that stuff Ocho to get Trey Lance.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharp
But unfortunately we. They found out that Trey Lance couldn't play dead on a horror film. So guess what they did. They say, Brock Purdy. We like what we see. Yeah, Brock Purdy it is. It's okay, Ocho. We made a mistake. You're not gonna. You're not gonna hit as great as Ozzy is at. Drafted. He drafted two players. That's on this, the. The 100th anniversary team of the NFL.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right?
Shannon Sharp
Jonathan Ogden. No, three. Ogden Lewis and Reed.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ray Reed.
Shannon Sharp
Three guys. Not a whole lot of people can say they drafted three guys that are on a team like that. With that being said, he's missed some too. But the one thing I know about Ozzy is that if he a boy, hey, we drafted him to be what? But the guy came in as a free agent. The guy came in as a later pick. He outplayed him.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharp
He said, I'd be a fool not to play it. He said I ain't got that much pride.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, listen, it's a little. It's a little different now. It's a little. It's a little. The pride is there. The ego was there because you're not going to allow. This ain't just any 5th round pick. Huh? That. That last name carries a little. A little A little. A little bit of weight now, and it's a little different. You know, we don't want to look like the fools that we purposely let him slide all the way to the fifth on purpose.
Shannon Sharp
You already look like a fool. You look like a fool when you let Baker Mayfield go. And you, you tried. You tried to change him. You didn't give him weapons. Look at Baker when he got weapons. I. I don't care. I don't care. Your quarterback now, unless. Unless you like them exemplary, like you a. A Brady that can ra. That can elevate, but everybody don't have that ability. You got to stop thinking, oh, my quarterback. No, everybody can't elevate players like the great, great. I'm talking about, even amongst the great, there are tears to greatness.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
Shannon Sharp
And Brady and some of those guys sit on that top tier that you can't even get up. You can't even get up there.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right. It's different. Yes, different.
Shannon Sharp
But Dylan Gabriel. In 184 attempts, Dylan Gabriel has one pass that's travels 26 yards, his longest player of the season. Should do a roll out downfield with a 53 yard completion in the first quarter. One of the best offensive moments for the Browns this season. The locker room. I think the thing is, Ocho, is that being who he is, being the son of who he is, he's a very confident young man in his own abilities. And you got to be everybody that listen, everybody that play a professional sport, everybody that's great at something. Forget sports. If you're great at something, you got an ego. Now, I kept telling people this, and people didn't want to believe me. The greater you are at something, the bigger the ego is, the greater you. I don't care whether you're Dr. Neil Ellatroge, one of the foremost orthopedics in the world, it doesn't matter. You have an ego. Thankfully, growing up in the household, he understand he's very confident in his own ability, abilities. Let's take a listen to what Shador had to say after the game. We got that in the can. But there's no excuse. You got to go out there and perform like there's no choices. No question. Nobody cares if this was one week of prep, who cares, you know, So a lot of people want to see me fail. And it ain't going to happen. You know, it ain't going to happen. I like that. Oo the remaining schedule, they get the 49ers and the Titans at home. They go on the road to the Bears, they get the Bills at home, Steelers at home. They finish the season on the road at the Bengals. Hey, they gotta tell. Hey, hey, it ain't getting no easier now.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, absolutely not. 49 is gonna be a nice test. That's gonna be. That's gonna be a real nice test. I mean, it all comes down to that decision that's going to be made on Wednesday by Stefanski. Whoever's taking those first team reps on Wednesday. As you Prepare for that 49ers game, that's your stone, your starting quarterback for the week. And that. That's what. That's what it's going to be. Bailey Zappy was promoted up to quarterback number two. And knowing them in the games that they play, knowing them in the games that they play, probably if Shador is not the starter, he'll probably go back down to three. That's the type of game that they will play.
Shannon Sharp
All right?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm telling you now watch. Watch how they play games.
Shannon Sharp
Ocho. There's a video that emerged of Geno Smith. He was getting booed by fans that he was leaving the field. This is what Gino did after leaving the field after hearing the fans boo.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Damn, I can't see. You know, I only got one.
Shannon Sharp
He flipped him off.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, we did.
Shannon Sharp
Yes. The second time. Remember when they went back to Seattle, he did the exact same thing.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Shannon Sharp
He's a repeat offender. Gino. You know how this work. When you play good, they applaud. When you play bad, they boo. Y' all been playing like dog poo.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah. Hey, they need help too, uncle over there, boy. Especially a lot of help. Hey, on offense, they need some help. I like. I like. Genti gently shows some flashes. He really can't get loose like he want to. But the Raiders need a dog. Huh? You hear me? You heard me? The rate the Raiders need a dog. I'm talking about they. He need a dog. Like a dog I can count on. Like a good one, matter of fact. Hey, and. And since we talk about the Raider, since we talk about Geno Smith, right? And they need a dog. And they. There's a. There's a good dog that's going to be available in the off season, right, too?
Shannon Sharp
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right now. He wears thaw on his helmet right now. You know, he looked real good over there. And he fit would be in a Raider is all about right now. He wearing number three over there in Dallas right now. But I'm just saying. I'm thinking about that you understand what.
Shannon Sharp
I'm saying, man, look here, I ain't fooling with them. I'm gonna go somewhere. Elcho, you know how hard it would be for Pick to see what he's getting right now and to go deal with these jack legs.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, hey, I'm just, I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I mean, I don't want to go too far ahead. I just want to throw that tidbit out there until we get.
Shannon Sharp
Oh yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What we talking about? Looking like. Hey, looking like he top five, definitely.
Shannon Sharp
Well, right now the best receiver in football is in Jigba. And we're gonna talk about him a little later. He went for a buck 67 today. Yo, I seen him in two more tubs.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I seen him.
Shannon Sharp
This man got. He done set the franchise record with sick with and 1311 games.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Can I ask you a question?
Shannon Sharp
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
JSN, right? Yeah. I want you to think about every receiver. I had a wide eyed workshop, right? I had a wide up workshop. Every receiver that came to that workshop. You know what they're doing this year?
Shannon Sharp
They're going off, man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Stop playing with me, man.
Shannon Sharp
They're going off.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I don't need, I don't need much. I don't need much time. I don't need much time.
Shannon Sharp
All it.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And that was just two days. I'm telling you, all NFL receivers, I know y' all gonna see this. Come on down here, holl at your boy in July. All you young receivers, one year players, second year players, rookies, I'm telling you, come on down here to Miami, man, I'm get you right, man, I'm gonna get you right. I don't need much.
Shannon Sharp
Before you go any further, we have breaking news. The Raiders just relieved Chip Kelly of his duties. Chip Kelly signed a contract to make him the highest paid offensive coordinator in football this off season. But he was just, he was dismissed after just 11 games.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
God damn.
Shannon Sharp
Hey, he did not stay in college.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Listen, somebody, somebody got to take the fall with this. Somebody got to take the fall. Somebody, somebody got to take it home. Obviously it ain't gonna be Pete. It ain't gonna be the quarterback. Okay, who we gonna blame offensively? We can't get nothing going offensively.
Shannon Sharp
So who's the call that a gadget ass offense? What you call it that gadget ass offense.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But this, this is the part I don't like. We in the middle of the season, right? You let the office of the coordinator go. So who, what, what, what, what plays we call it now or we have someone else calling the same exact offense because we can't learn a brand new offense.
Shannon Sharp
No, it's.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
Shannon Sharp
But you know, sometimes Ocho maybe a different set of eyes.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I like that.
Shannon Sharp
See things differently. I like that down in distance area of the field.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Or actually understanding the strengths of the goddamn supporting cast you have and putting the right places. Why is. Why is Tucker out there on the outside? Why is he out there on the outside as if he's a true. No disrespect. As he's the true number one.
Shannon Sharp
He'll slide. He'll slide it best. He your third. He your third. He a third. He a good third or fourth receiver. He needs to be in the slot. He don't need to be outside. First of all, he only like. Well, I thought he's like 5, 7, 5, 8.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hold on. I know he fast as hell, but he out there lined up two yards outside the number running comebacks. Man, they finished sit on that all day, huh? Yeah, they finished sit on that all day. Like, come on, man.
Shannon Sharp
Yeah, it's. Hey, they paid a lot of money. They made him the highest paid offensive coordinating football. All right. Time. Let it go. If that work, could go back to college. You got to have. You can have a great career in college. Hey, and that worked. But you know, you go ahead and try to change guys. Guys that have been doing stuff their entire life because remember the first thing he did, Aston Gentle. He wanted to put Aston J to put his hands on his thighs. The man been standing up the whole while.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, can I ask you a question?
Shannon Sharp
Yes.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
When you. When you see Jameer Gibbs in the backfield, how is he standing?
Shannon Sharp
Damn near standing straight up.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Straight up and down. Because it. That. That had. That. That gives you that. It doesn't comfort nothing.
Shannon Sharp
I'm comfortable. I want what you need. Hell, I'll let you play some Uggs. If you go tell me you're gonna go out there run for 215. I don't care nothing about what you got on. I really don't bad. Please. Thank you, Chat man. Oh, Chad. Y' all doing us good tonight, ocho. We got 50k in the chat tonight. 50k in a regular season game in a long time. Chad, thank you so much for this support. Really appreciate it, Ocho. The Cowboys fall behind 21 nothing score 24 unanswered points and they quin on a game. Brandon Aubrey's 42 yard field goal as time expired. Jalen Hurst said after the game, we got to find a way to finish the game and we got to find some consistency in what we do, definitely to tell the two halves. In the end, we didn't play a complete game as a team, and it got us today. We've got to own this one. It's. Let that light of fire in us as a team and stay together and move forward. AJ Brown been trying to tell y' all this, Eagle fans. AJ Brown been trying to tell you what happens when the defense can't bail us out. You cannot run the football. You're gonna win games moving forward. On Jalen Hurst's arm now, he got some pressure that he doesn't normally get.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharp
Lane Johnson is a big out the center. Jurgens.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ah.
Shannon Sharp
It, it. Diggy Zua was whipping ass inside today.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes, sir.
Shannon Sharp
But with the exception of one game, Saquon has not run the ball this year. Saquon had 10 carries for 22 yards.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharp
Jalen Hurts had seven for 33. Bigsby had one for eight. So that's 18 carries for 63 yards.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
This is going to be like this all season long.
Shannon Sharp
Now, you had two. You had two turnovers yet. I mean, the defense was balling. That's. I thought I was sitting there and I started to tweet. I started to tweet this, but I didn't.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What?
Shannon Sharp
They had the ball. Second and 17, huh? They just run the ball, pick up four yards. Hey, how about trying to go for it and try to get 9 to 10. Now we got something manageable. You run the ball into the line of scrimmage, it now is third and 17. I think AJ Brown or somebody picked up 12 yards. Now, if you'd have picked up 12, if you'd have picked up five or six yards before and now come back and get to 12. Now you got a first down.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
First down.
Shannon Sharp
They give up on too many plays. Well, our defensive balance out our defense. No.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, you know, what about not wanting to put the ball in harm's way? I mean, but not wanting to put the ball in harbor, but also being able to trust your quarterback to make the right decision.
Shannon Sharp
They don't. I don't care what they say. They don't. They don't. Because there are not a whole lot of people that have a quarterback that's won a Super Bowl MVP that on second and 17, they handing the ball off. They gonna throw the ball. Let me try to get half of it back, Ocho. Now I got a manageable third down, right? I get all this saying, Stefanski, excuse me, Sirion is going to say all this stuff, and I Get all of that. But they don't trust him like they should trust him. As a guy that started damn near his entire career in the NFL. He came in as a backup, he got the starting job and he hasn't relinquished it. He's gone to the playoffs, he's been to two Super Bowls. He's won one and he's won a league and he won a Super bowl mvp. They don't trust him like they should.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharp
Now this loss.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharp
Should get their undivided attention.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharp
Now, AJ ain't gonna say this, but ajc I told you.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But, but listen, I told you but, but also look at the game in that fourth quarter. Look at the game. Now. I know, I know, I know the Cowboys were able to come back, but they had about 37, 11 goddamn fumbles in a row. And back to back series.
Shannon Sharp
Yes, Saquon fumbled and then they punted. The defense did a great job, but there's only so many times that you can keep putting your defense right back on the field. They just got off the field. Yeah. They get about to say quad. He fumble it. The defense hold them, they punt the ball. Defense right back on the field.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
On the field.
Shannon Sharp
There's only. Look, I don't care how, Bill, how much you build a levy. If it rains enough, it will burst.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharp
And that water will come over that levee again. Another thing that happened Eagles, I just want to know how many penalties that you should. Oh, sure, they had 14 penalties.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, they had a lot 14.
Shannon Sharp
No, they had more than a lot. A lot of the parcel of land they had 14. I mean, Dallas had 473 yards of offense. That was. That was. Look, this is when Dak is at his absolute best.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh yeah.
Shannon Sharp
Because now he can throw caution to the wind. Because guess what, Ocho, if you lose. Oh, well, but. Cause I, you know, I had. When I worked with Dan, Danny and I, Dan Marino and we worked, worked together for a decade. For decade. And he said, he's like, hey, if I threw three interceptions, hell, what's the difference between three and four? What's the difference between four and five? I'm gonna keep letting it rip.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Let it go.
Shannon Sharp
Hey, I mean, they put. They should have put this thing away in the first 21 nothing.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Listen, uncle, if you playing mad, you gotta pass the sticks. The game is over at 21 nothing. I thought the game was over. Obviously I had both game going. I'm watching the Raiders. I'm watching the Raiders and the Browns. I'm watching Eagles and the Cowboys Boom. Both TVs set up right there. So I'm thinking, okay. Damn. What the Cowboys out of right 21 zip in the NFL if you continue to keep your foot on the gas, it's no way. As good as their defense is, it's no way the Cowboys should be able to come back. But lo and behold, boy, they got a young dude out there. They got a young dude out there, man, in Dallas that got a stone his helmet. When he got drafted, he was standing just like this, huh? Man, listen, when we. Listen when we talk about top five again, when we talk about top five receivers and understand the potential and what they've been able to do and how there was a certain team that might have been holding him back based on what we seeing this year. Man, stop. Man, stop playing.
Shannon Sharp
First of all, it shouldn't even be 21 nothing. Ocho, what? CD might make sure you make curfew moving forward. CD dropping an ass load of passes. Ocho, you watched it, and I've watched it. He dropped like four or five.
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Shannon Sharp
How many targets? Hold on. Let me go back. Because Ocho, he dropped. Oo. He dropped a flat out touchdown. He dropped it in the end zone.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That would have ended the game. I'm glad they won the game because that might have been on CD if.
Shannon Sharp
They had 11 targets. He caught four of them.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Huh?
Shannon Sharp
11 targets. He caught four. He threw four or five of them back at Dak. I mean, he was a. He turned into a retriever. You know, the retrieval, though. You. You hunting quail. A pheasant. Go get it, boy. He'll pick it up, pick it and bring it back to you. Yeah, that's what he was doing. He's picking the ball up, handed to the official. No, no, no, no, bro. I need you to be a receiver. We pay you $34 million, and right now. Well, you know, you say, everybody, we ain't got to say nothing. Y' all see with your own eyes. Y' all see Pick is out playing it. We ain't gotta say nothing.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, he being lazy with his hands and eyes. Huh? That's all it is. Being lazy. With you being lazy with your hands and eyes. You gotta.
Shannon Sharp
He lead the league. And drop. So Joe, he leaked.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He leading the league. And drops.
Shannon Sharp
Cd. CD drops.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, man. Hey, damn. You sure?
Shannon Sharp
1,000%.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Damn. Gotta get that thing right.
Shannon Sharp
Hell, I mean, the last couple of games. Hell, I thought that was Edward Scissorhands out there. Hey, hey, hey, we. I mean, look, we. Y' all see it Chat. I mean, Ocho and I, we make a lot of a situation. But y' all see them drops.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharp
And I know Cowboy fans, y' all see it like, damn, cd. Yeah, come on, cd. You gotta cat. I'm talking about the ball beating him up, Ocho. Yeah, he doesn't got. What happens, Ocho, you know, you drop a couple, you're like, well, damn, do I got my hands right?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, damn. It is.
Shannon Sharp
Do I catch it like this? Now you start trying to body catch everything and get in your head, boop, he's gone.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You get it? You're getting your head. Listen, listen, I've been there. Hey, listen, I've been there. So I kind of.
Julian Edelman
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What are you going through now? It'd just be one game. It don't be multiple. It don't be back to. Back to back. In a player of his caliber. Of his caliber. Oh, absolutely not. The game was supposed to be over on that catch where it went through. It hit his belly and went through. And he looked at. And he looked at that and telling that. Throw it out there a little bit more so I can run to it. Come on. Come on, now.
Shannon Sharp
Over the middle. He dropped one over the middle. And damn. I mean. And he like. I'm like, bro, I'm glad you got some flexibility, because when he go down, he all on his neck. After he all break that, I'm like, well, damn.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, hey. But, you know, you know, listen, in baseball, some of the greatest. Some of the greatest sluggers, they go into slumps. I'm not making no excuses for him, but somebody like that. That wear that double eight. He wear that double eight for a reason.
Shannon Sharp
Exactly.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He wear that double eight for a reason. So, boom, I had a bad game next week. I don't even know who the Cowboys got. I don't even know who the Cowboys got. But I know next week a foe. Man, get that boy back in the rhythm, man, to get his confidence back. Man, put that thing back on him now.
Shannon Sharp
I' ma let it work on his confidence. I'm gonna go to number three because I know number three gonna put it in his back pocket for me. I know what three go. I know what three gonna do.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Come on.
Shannon Sharp
Did you see that catch that three made? Hold on, which one? The one he made over two. He. He caught one and then 21 tried to swipe it. But here's the problem. The Eagles got What? Because wherever. 8th at the ball gonna follow him. Jackson. Yeah, whoever he guarding the ball, following him. Now I'm trying to figure out Ocho Adore Jackson sets up inside. He has inside leverage.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharp
How in the hell you let. Are you letting pickets cross your damn face?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You talk about on the slant, the.
Shannon Sharp
On the. On the end route.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Shannon Sharp
It was. It was like 3rd and. It was like 3rd and 12. He.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The one. He had to reach up and go half up.
Shannon Sharp
Yes. You got inside. Oo. They put you inside for a reason.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharp
If he beats you on the go ball. You like coach. I. I mean, what you want me to do? You got me lined up inside.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's on him.
Shannon Sharp
If I line you up. Oo, if I line you up inside, you can't let him cross your face. Ocho, I told. What did I tell you? What? What I've been telling running backs. I say if a linebacker blitz and you catch him.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharp
He gonna sit you in the lap of the quarterback and he gonna sack your quarterback. What did Nico Dean do to Javonte Williams? Oo.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Set him down back there.
Shannon Sharp
Oo. You better close that distance. You gotta realize he's coming from distance so he has a head of steam. You sitting there catching him. You better close that distance.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You got. You got to meet him. You gotta. You gotta meet him.
Shannon Sharp
Hey, the Eagles. I tell you what. A.J. brown got the undivided attention.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Hey. Yeah, he had a. He had a hell of a game today too, huh? They were. Hey, they were feeding that boy early too.
Shannon Sharp
Did not enough.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, they were feeding him early.
Shannon Sharp
He should have had. He should have had one of them chase games. He should have had 23 targets. Devonte. Devonte cooking both of them.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Both head chef and chef.
Shannon Sharp
It's not gonna be what it was last year. You throwing on wide open guys because Saquon. Are they dropping that eighth guy down to stop Saquon? That offensive line is not as dominant. Not. Lane Johnson is out. He's probably done for the year because it's reported that he has a Liz Frank. So he's. He's probably. If he got Liz Frank, he's probably done.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Excuse me.
Shannon Sharp
Yes.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You're gonna have to educate me. What the hell is a Liz Frank?
Shannon Sharp
It's a ball. It's dancers normally get it. It's a small bro. It's a. What is it? Like the metatarsal? Like in your. In your foot? So this is your foot. It's like right underneath. Gonna play. Cause he got the foot already. It's his right foot. So you gonna kick. How you gonna catch? How you gonna sit? Can't he done. If. If what? They're saying is true that he has a Liz Frank injury.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right. I might be able to do some. Do something for him for that.
Shannon Sharp
Well, you might could do something after he have surgery, but you ain't gonna be able to do nothing for it right now. With that being said, Ocho, look, I, I think the thing is the Eagles just got to realize. And I, and I said, we've been, I've been saying this. If you think you're going to win the super bowl how you want it last year, you're fooling yourself.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, you can't. You got to evolve, huh? You gotta evolve the way you want it last. You're not gonna be able to do it the same way the next year. And obviously, you know what? You know how difficult it is to repeat. Being able to repeat is very difficult in itself. Therefore, teams have film on you. Actually, every team you do play, you don't get their best shot.
Shannon Sharp
Absolutely.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So the way you won games last year, you're going to have to do things differently. If you can't run the ball, you got to throw it. Even if it's not the makeup of your team, even that's not what you guys do. Things are going to have to change, whether it be the play calling, whether it be Jalen hurts. Jalen hurts taking the freedom, maybe taking the freedom and taking the reins out of the hands of brother Petula if he calls something else. And Jalen hurts being an mvp, being a Super bowl winning quarterback. You know what? You know what? I see something that you can't see from the sideline, or I see something that you can't see from the booth. Because I'm actually feel side. I'm actually out here being able to change the play. Hey, Devonte, if you get one on one, keep your eyes on me. A.J. brown, if you get 1 on 1, keep your eyes on me. I'm changing it. Changing to whatever they do best. He man to man. Every time you see AJ and somebody bump around that goddamn safety playing around and he anywhere in the middle of the field, I'm checking it every time. Every time. Because every time you put it up to him. A 50. 50 ball with A.J. brown returns in 9010. Man, stop playing, man.
Shannon Sharp
I mean, that was sensational. 23 or 36, 354, two touchdowns. That was a hell of an interception. That, that Blankenship, the one he picked on cd.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hold on, you. You, you ain't see the veteran move, huh? You ain't see the, you ain't see the tug, the slight tug of the.
Shannon Sharp
Jersey to put him in the P and himself forward in front.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, and it, it was just subtle, though. It wasn't enough to.
Shannon Sharp
Yeah, slingshot. Yes.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Man. I'm talking about straight veteran move. That was beautiful. That was beautiful.
Shannon Sharp
It was. But look, the one thing we know about Dak Dak don't lose division games at home. He had lost a bunch of them. He might have lost one or two, but he don't lose a bunch at home. And like I said, and, and, and when he can throw caution to the wind, he's like, hey, we down 21, nothing. So what if we lose 35, 10.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Nah.
Shannon Sharp
Hey, let's go. And they would, they stayed attached just enough that we could stick a run in here, here and there with Javonte Williams. And so now we got a second and three. We got a second and four. I could do that. Just enough. But the cowboy. Hey, here the cowboy schedule got the teeth on Thanksgiving. Then they got the. Then they play the following Thursday. They get the Lions, then they get the Vikings at home, which is a Sunday night game. Then they get the Chargers at home.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
God damn.
Shannon Sharp
And then they got the Commanders on Christmas, which is in Washington. And then they got Giants.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, they got a night. They got a nice little schedule. They got a nice little schedule.
Shannon Sharp
They got Nick Foles, Super Bowl MVP winning quarterback. Nick Foles, who quarterbacked the Eagles to their first super bowl, critiqued the Eagles simplistic route tree and play calling. When the route tree is simplistic. DBs know that Kevin Patullo is probably a great dude, but there's an art to play calling.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, I said that. I said that last week.
Shannon Sharp
Yeah, I said it last week. But guess what? If. If everybody said from the outside, why can't Sirianna, that's inside, why can't he see it? Why can't Petula see it?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I mean, and I, I said it last week. You know, it's funny and I, I understand the frustrations that A.J. brown is having, but if I can watch an Eagles game, right? And just. And this is. I'm just A.J. brown, specifically, if I can tell you exactly where he lines up, and I could tell you the route if I was blindfolded and you told me exactly where AJ Brown was lined up, I can give you the two route combination. He gonna run if it's two by two. If it's three by one, he's on the single side by itself. He got a slant coming. I mean, I give it to you and I guarantee you a whole game I bet I won't be wrong not once. Yeah, I won't be wrong not once. It's. It's too. It's too easy.
Shannon Sharp
They really don't let him. They don't let him run but a handful of damn routes they'll let him run. They'll let him run the slant, they'll let him run the shallow, the curl, let him run the over curl. They'll let him run the deep ball if he's on the left hand side.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharp
And occasionally they'll let him run the comeback.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Hold on, hold on. That little. What we call it. We call it the 12 yard dig. Not 16, 18 yard.
Shannon Sharp
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What do you call it?
Shannon Sharp
The one that Picket's called Bingo.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
Shannon Sharp
On Jackson. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What do y'.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What do y' all call that, though? What you call.
Shannon Sharp
We call it dig. We call it.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay, okay.
Shannon Sharp
We call it dig.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, well, I mean, our. Our dig is 16, 18. I forgot what you call it. The short. The shorter version.
Shannon Sharp
No, no, no. You can. I mean, the thing is, it all depends because the thing is, with us, we. If we. You had. The route was called. So let's just say for the sake of argument, ocho, you needed 14 yards, right? If the route, say 10 to 12, go to 10 to 12. You couldn't go deeper because it would mess up the timing of the quarterback. Yeah, but you run that, you. Or you call it. We call it. We call it an over sometimes. Like I would run what we call a far cross. 10 push to 22, 24.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right.
Shannon Sharp
Got it. Now that's. That's a far cross.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay.
Shannon Sharp
I'm trying to catch the ball on the far side.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right. Okay.
Shannon Sharp
Over route. What you think. You probably think of the. Overall, whereas 10, roll to 12.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
12 break across.
Shannon Sharp
We as a tight end, it was a basic cross for us, okay? And I just. They not gonna win a Super bowl how they wanted last year. You got to get defense. Hey, offense, defense. Been carrying it. Now when y' all gonna carry? When y' all gonna pull your weight? The Eagles got. Oh, this was the Cowboys played the Chiefs on Thanksgiving.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Who the Eagles got coming up. That's what. That's what I meant.
Shannon Sharp
We'll get that in just a second.
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Hulu Original Series All's fair now streaming on Hulu and Hulu on Disney for bundle subscribers terms apply.
Date: November 24, 2025
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe & Chad Ochocinco Johnson
This episode of Club Shay Shay dives into three storylines dominating the NFL universe:
The conversation blends in-depth analysis with the hosts' trademark candid banter, real locker room perspective, and a dash of playful coaching analogies.
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Shannon on Shedeur:
"I know it was great to see his dad was in attendance…this is really the first time that his dad’s not coaching him. Picking up the phone is one thing, but being able to have a conversation face to face is something entirely different." (20:22)
On coaches refusing to admit mistakes:
“Sometimes you gotta lie to your team...even if you don’t like Shedeur, even if you want Dylan Gabriel, you won't commit.” (Shannon, 33:23)
Myles Garrett on Shedeur’s arm talent:
"There’s not many guys in league that can make that throw…that was a hell of a throw." (46:35)
Locker room knowledge:
“We know who can play...we see your ass every damn day.” (Shannon, 47:50)
Ocho on the QB controversy:
“They do not want young bulls to succeed…they don’t want to look like a goddamn fool.” (38:30; 39:58)
This episode is a masterclass in real football talk. Shannon and Ocho blend stats, stories, and hard truths—calling out organizational egos, breaking down the real-life impact of coaching decisions, and celebrating standouts like Shedeur Sanders and Myles Garrett. The banter is raw, insightful, and laced with locker room wisdom, making this a must-listen for football fans seeking more than just the box score.