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Rob Gronkowski
This is Rob Gronkowski and Julian Edelman.
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Julian Edelman
From Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jules.
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Rob Gronkowski
Rob, I've never asked, are you a dips guy?
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Julian Edelman
Like the workout? You can't tell.
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Rob Gronkowski
No, I mean for your chips.
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Julian Edelman
Oh, I knew that. Yeah, of course.
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Rob Gronkowski
You got to try this new Daisy's French Onion Dip. Goes great on Sundays.
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Julian Edelman
I like the sound of that. Everyone knows you need a good dip for game day. Personally, I like to dip everything I can. Veggies, crackers, chips. Heck I might even dip a buffalo wing in there.
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Rob Gronkowski
That reminds me, they also have Daisy's Ranch dip.
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Julian Edelman
Now you're speaking my language.
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Rob Gronkowski
Yup, seems like a no brainer on game day. So get out there and give the French onion dip a try. You won't regret it.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Wait, wait, wait.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Now, we're still trying to work out some logistics and details, but there is a possibility Chat Ocho is going to have to put those chops and those vocal cords to the table.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Hey, you serious? Absolutely. This is one of the best surprises that I could, I could have ever gotten. This is better than any birthday gift, any Christmas gift, anything I've ever gotten because it's always been my dream because of football. Hey Chat for those you that are that are in the chat right now. Now, there's only one renowned choir. There's only one great, often imitated, never Duplicated mass choir that I love and adored since. Since I was a child. The legendary Mosi Burks, the Mississippi Mass Choir. That's the only choir I can think of. One that only because the NFL got in the way of my career in.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Being.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
The lead singer for the Mississippi Mass Choir. That's where I belong. So if you're able to pull this off, you know what? I give you 5,900. I double triple it. I give you $5,009,000. Like, if you. If you're able to pull this off and I'm able to sing a song and lead the choir, where would this happen at, huh?
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
At the live show.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Oh, my God.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I don't know about lead, but I think they'll let you join in. You might have one little lead. Little song. Little, little, little lead.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Hey, hey. One thing about it, boy, they say dreams come true. Now, I'm not one to make fun of fun of stuff, but this is almost like. Like, you know, the Make a Wish Foundation. This is something for me, if I was. This is something that means so much to me and. And the fact that I would probably want to lead a song, depending on what song we want to sing. I'm hoping we can lead with some of the songs that are. Are really my strengths. Blessed Assurance, obviously, Near the Cross is a very, very, very, very good one for me. I'm not tired yet. Oh, my goodness. It's so many in my back pocket. So many that I can lead with. Like, I'm. Oh, this is. You know what? I'm going to tear up a little bit. Let me get the tissue.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Well, the song that I really want them to sing, and I think the chat would like for them to sing as I'm pressing on. They're really known for that song, and. And I don't know if anybody can do it quite like they can, so maybe you can join in with that one. But we're working on the Ocho. We're trying to get. Get an opportunity. We're trying to work on logistics and everything like that, and so we'll. We'll know something here in the cup in the coming days. But that's not the only thing. We got a couple of other acts, as you mentioned. We got the Russell going to perform, and we gotta. We're working on some things that if that comes through, man, hold on.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
I. I missed it. I went to go get tissue because I teared up a little bit. What song did you say you wanted to hear?
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I'm pressing on.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
What, you know, about I'm pressing on. What? You know, hey, oh my.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I know a lot about.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Hey, oh, my goodness.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
And if we can make. If, if, if, if, if, if. Like I said, we'll know something here in a couple of days. In the next two or three days, we'll have something ironed out concrete. But there will be several. Like I can say this. There will be several acts performing before we actually get up there and do our thing. So we're very excited. We're very excited that people want to be a part of this, and we personally can't thank them enough. So we're looking forward to getting this thing ironed out. Nocho. And let you have your wish and you get opportunity to sing with the world Renown Mississippi man.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Yeah. Hey, Unc. This should have happened. This should have happened years ago. Chad. I mean, if you don't understand. For those of you that don't know about the Mississippi Mass Choir, please do your homework on them. They. They have a multitude of albums you can go through. Obviously, my. My favorite song is near the Cross. You can check out also the Mississippi Children's Choir as well. I was supposed to be the lead singer for the Mississippi Children's Choir during. During those times when I was. When I was a little younger, but obviously football got in the way. Me training, me having to go to school. I wanted to be homeschooled, but my. My grandma wouldn't play that. My grandma was an eastern star. She was a, A, A, a, a A huge church woman. Uncle. I'm talking about Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. She's in church. No. Any. Any reason. Any reason she gonna be at church, she gonna be at Bible study. So she always. I grew up in the church, so I mean, the fact that I'm getting this opportunity to finally sing and. And live out my childhood dream with the Mississippi Mass Choir would be an honor. It would be an honor for me. So I'm excited. I'm excited.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Well, we're excited also. Like I said, we'll know something here in the next couple of days. Chat. I think the thing is, Chad, what we try to do, and I told you this from the very, very beginning, is that when Ocho and I, we take to the road, we try to make sure that not only are you entertained by us, but if there's something that we can do while we're in that area to. To. To offer and make sure you're entertained by other acts, we always going to try to do that. And so we're constantly reaching out. So Sometimes we're fortunate enough when we're able to get people. Sometimes they are. They have prior commitments, sometimes they're not in town, and we're not able to make things like that happen. But if there's any chance that when we take to the road and there's. And we can make it happen. Ocho, remember in New Orleans we had the, the university.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Yeah.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
We, we try. We got those guys and, you know, and so we always. That's what we're always going to try to do. We're always going to try to have a group. We're always going to try to have something to entertain you other than Ocho and myself. And this is. This looks very, very promising. So next two to three days, we should have something ironed out. But we're also working on another act, so we're trying to have at least three. We know we got. There's a potential. There's a 85% of two. We know that. 85%. But there's a. This third guy, this third act. If we can get this, this will be, this will be unbelievable. This will be a momentous occasion. And, and, and everybody else is going to try to copy what we do, but they can't do.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
No, no. No disrespect to them. But it's, it's. This is one on one. This. This is one on one. And, And. Oh, my goodness. You don't understand how excited I am. Golly, this is gonna be dope, man.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
All right. Oo. In an unexpected. Shador Sanders has been named to the Pro Bowl. Shador will replace Drake May, who will be playing in Super Bowl 60. Shador is part of the AFC quarterbacking group that includes Josh Allen and Justin Herbert, who could have. Who could also require replacement after getting surgery in December to play to repair a fractured hand. Only four AFC quarterbacks ranked in the top 10 for fan voting. Josh Allen, Drake May, Patrick Mahomes and Bo Nicks. Mahomes and Knicks are both out with injuries, so that allows Shador to get the nod. Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, Aaron Rogers. Obviously bigger names didn't make the cut over Shador and Yes, sir. Ocho, what are you thinking?
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Obviously, a lot of people upset. A lot of people are saying that Shador Sanders didn't deserve this. Obviously, when you look at the stick, the stats, statistically, there are so many other suitors that. That could have gone to the Pro Bowl. Honestly, Unc, this is one that, that is a bit confusing to me. As much as I love Shador Sanders, there are Many others that should have gotten that opportunity to go. I am happy that he's been awarded and afforded the opportunity to go to the Pro bowl in, in his first year. But maybe you can clarify and give me a little bit, a little bit more clarity as to why the other players who had better season statistically than Ghost.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Mainly a Trevor Lawrence. Is that the name you want to throw out there?
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
I was getting ready to say Trevor Lawrence. So I mean, can you explain to me, you might be able to help me understand a little better.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Maybe, obviously Ocho. Maybe it's a situation where the fan vote there's like, because you got to think about Ocho. They're down to like, they're the six or seven alternate. The Pro bowl does not have the.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Recognition that it once did. It used to mean something to go to the Pro Bowl. It used to mean something. And when you look at that ball and you see all those names, you saw the Elways and the Marinos and, and the Tom Brady's and, and the Peyton Mannings and the guys, like I said, they, it wasn't like a regular season game, but guys cared. There was none of this two hand touch and I, and, and yo, I, I, I, I've read some of the comments. He didn't deserve to go. It happens. He's not the first alternate to ever make the Pro Bowl. He's not, he's not gonna be the last alternate to make the Pro Bowl. We saw Ocho, remember, we saw Huntley just a few years ago make it.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Yes.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Because every, nobody, nobody really wanted to go. It doesn't. I mean, first of all, I don't know where, where it's gonna be. It's in San Francisco this year because it used to be Ocho used to mean something. You go in Hawaii, you get a vacation. You get to take your wife to Hawaii, your girlfriend, your family get the tag along. And it meant something to go across the water to break bread. You're drinking the Ma Ties, the Blue Hawaiians. It normally meant something. It doesn't have the same cache, but congratulations to Shador and, and like I said, Patrick Mahomes was hurt. Bo Nicks is hurt. I'm not so sure. I'm not so sure the other names would have gone not, not at, at that far down as an Al. I don't think Lamar is going. I don't. There's a great chance that they reached out to these guys and they're like, nah, I'm good. Aaron Rodgers, like, nah, nah.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Yeah.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I don't I don't need that trip. Lamar is like, no, I got other things to do. So I think the thing is that the other guys, Lamar, Joe, Aaron Rodgers, probably Trevor Lawrence, they probably, I mean.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Listen, if it was like it was back in the day when we were playing actually, and it actually meant much more to go to the Pro bowl, the achievement of making the Pro bowl, it was, it was unbelievable. You understand? Yeah, this is, this is a real, a real trip, a, A real treat, you know that, that you get to go, you got to fly 10 hours. I don't care where you live. It's a 10 hour flight. Your family goes and you know, you there all week and you really played. There was no, there was no bull jab, it was no shucking and jiving. You enjoy those, those first three quarters. We get to that fourth quarter, it's time to tighten up and we got to play ball. It's time to turn up and we, we playing ball. So I mean, it's different now. Obviously the game has evolved. The, the players also trying to protect themselves, especially if you're in a contract year, they don't want to get hurt. But hey, hey, man, it was, hey, oh my goodness, you remember that.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
What I don't like about it now, oo that was also the time that the team that won the super bowl, that got an opportunity to come over to the Pro bowl and everybody pat him on the back, man, congratulations. Hell of a job, man. I was rooting for you X, Y and Z. Now you, I mean there are some players that's gonna, I mean you, I and I, I get it. Like I said, it's not you still, that's still on your resume. So no matter what you think, Shador Sanders, whether he makes a no or not, when it's all said and done, he'll be a one time Pro bowl player. So how he got there is unimportant. Nobody's going to remember 5 years, 10 years, 15, 20, 30 years from now that he was an alternate and got selected to the Pro Bowl. But I love the fact that after, you know, I was very fortunate to win a couple of Super Bowls and was a Pro bowl player at that time and, and got an opportunity to go over and receive my congratulations and receive that, you know, Darrell Green and a lot of Ray Browns and the guys like, hey man, sign this champ and you got an opportunity to put those roman numerals up there. It meant something, it really did. And I wish the NFL would go back to that and let these guys that make the, that, that, that made the Pro bowl that are in the super bowl, they get an opportunity to go because they, they get an opportunity to go frat knives and see some of the guys, A lot of the guys you only see in passing Ocho, you play against them and that's it. But you get an opportunity to meet people's family. You take people pictures with people, wives and kids and their father in laws and things of that nature. So it's, it's a huge honor. But congratulations, Shador. Look, no matter what, people going to be upset about it. He didn't deserve to go, but they had to have somebody else. And it seems like these other guys weren't interested in it. So I mean, what do you want them to do? Just send two guys? Hey, Justin Herbert could have easily opted out because he had surgery on his non throwing hand. But I guess for what he's need to do, it's not going to, I don't think it's going to be, it's going to inhibit anything that he's going to do as far as throwing the football because he's just going to be throwing, running around trying to throw the ball in the hoop or hit up.
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Rob Gronkowski
This is Rob Gronkowski and Julian Edelman.
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Julian Edelman
From Dudes on Dudes. Dudes with Gronk and jewels.
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Rob Gronkowski
Rob, I've never asked, are you a dips guy?
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Julian Edelman
Like the workout? You can't tell.
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Rob Gronkowski
No, I mean for your chips.
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Julian Edelman
Oh, I knew that. Yeah, of course.
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Rob Gronkowski
You gotta try this new Daisy's French onion dip. Goes great on Sundays.
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Julian Edelman
Daisy like the sour cream brand?
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Rob Gronkowski
Yup. That's how you know it's gonna be fire. I use their sour cream all the time. Goes perfect with my taco Tuesday dinner.
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Julian Edelman
Oh, Jules the chef. I love it.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yep.
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Rob Gronkowski
And now I've added the daisies French onion dip to my Sunday spread. They make it with all natural herbs and spices.
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Julian Edelman
I like the sound of that. Everyone knows you need a good dip for game day. Personally, I like to dip everything I can. Veggies, crackers, chips. Heck, I might even dip a buffalo wing in there.
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Rob Gronkowski
That reminds me, they also have Daisy's ranch dip.
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Julian Edelman
Now you're speaking my language. Sundays on the couch just got even better.
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Rob Gronkowski
Yup, seems like a no brainer on game day. So get out there and give the French onion dip a try. You won't regret it.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
A moving target so I don't really have a problem with this. The only thing I wish is that I just wish the guys took it a little bit more serious and it didn't have to come to this, that they ended up cutting it out and then making a skills competition because it used to mean, and don't tell me this, oh well, oh well, no, because the guys played. The guys played for 50 years. 50 years old, Joe, they played. And now all of a sudden you mean to tell me, and I don't know what year it happened, but I remember it happening and I was like because you remember the hit that Sean Taylor laid on the ground?
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Yeah, yeah.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I mean guys wouldn't clean your clock I mean they, if you go guys like they let you come down. Yeah, guys wouldn't try, you know, guys wouldn't try to do level no crack back blocks or anything like that. But the NFL did the only thing that they could is that which they had, they had to cut it out because guys wouldn't take it serious. And so now it's a skills competition.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
And I mean they got the, they play the flag game and that, that's, that's why I propose, you know, my whole thing and obviously aren't there. I think there's, there's enough of the, the older players, the, the past players that there's, there's enough of us that, that are still in some somewhat shorter sort of shape and I just thought, I just thought you know, it would be exciting if they knew ahead of time and preparing themselves to go against the younger generation. I think it would be fun because.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
You'Re not out man name but two of y' all in shape. Man, ain't nobody still.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
No, but I'm just saying the fact that they're not playing for real, it's just, it's just to enjoy yourselves. I think it would be cool for the fans, you know, to be able to see the younger generation go against the older generation. Hey, we not going all out but we just out there having a good time. So I, I just thought, I mean.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
The only thing you possibly could do is have the quarterbacks to throw but they would need to give, give them like six months to throw so their arm don't fall off after, after that Saturday.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
I mean, I don't know, I, I just thought it would be really something really dope and something that, that you, you've, you would never see a crossover like that unless you play Madden. So to be able to see it in real life, in real time, some of the former legends playing with some of the current, current stars today, it would be dope to see them share the field.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
But hey, I, oo, you know, I don't know if you got an opportunity to make it, but it used to be the Pro Bowl. Look, the Pro bowl was an honor but everybody wanted to make all Madden, they wanted to make the All Pro and then they want to make the Pro bowl. Because if you, if you made all Madden, he actually had to see you play. So that means you got the number one team, be it CBS or fox. So that's what that meant, you got the number one team. So that means John Madden and Pat Summerall, rest their soul was seeing you play and when you got that jacket or you got that trophy, that sweatshirt that, that they used to give you at first Ocho. They gave you a trophy. The trophy had to weigh like 25 pounds. So they. I. I'm not bull driving. They gave you a trophy. They gave you a leather jacket. They gave you a sweatsuit. They gave you a sweatshirt and they gave you a T shirt. They cut the trophy out and then they gave you a leather jacket, a sweatshirt. I think I still got. I know I gave my last year. I made it my last year in Denver. I gave the. What did I give? I gave some. I gave. I think I gave House the jacket. I gave Chaka the. The. The hoodie. But that was, that was an honor to have. To have John Madden and we still got the Madden game and to have those two call your laugh.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
That's dope now. Yeah, that's dope.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
But I still got. I still got the leather jackets. I still got. I made. The biggest honor was me and my brother making it together. I think I got like four sweatshirts because I think I made it five times. I got four jackets and a sweatsuit. I don't know. I think I got a sweatsuit. My sister might have sweatsuit, but congratulations, you do it. Look, everybody's not gonna be happy. Oh, show. I remember. Look, there are some times to hell I would have gone because I was the first alternate. Yeah, twice. My last. My first year in Baltimore. No, three times. My first. My. My first year in Baltimore, I was the first alternate. And my last two years in. In Denver, I was first alternate. Now I definitely should have made it. My first year in Baltimore. You can go check the stats of air, all the titans. Gonzo made it. Tony Gonzalez made it. Deservedly so. But you look. I should have been the second guy. I should have been there. And then my second year in Denver, behind Gonzo again, I should have made it. But hey, eight times. I guess there's really nothing to be complaining, but eight times in 14 years, that's pretty good for a guy to win the seventh round. But Shador, congratulations, that's on your resume now. It gives you something to strive to be one of those first three guys that get selected to the Pro bowl to be the fan vote, the coaches and the players. It's a huge honor. And like I said, 25, 30 years from now, everybody won't nobody remember that he was an alternate. Bill looked like man Shador made a Pro Bowl.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Yeah. Hey, listen, no matter what, no matter how you feel, Unc, you got to Put Pro bowl in front of that name before you say it. No matter whether he was. Whether he deserved it or not, whether the stats would have.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Were.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Were up the par for him to make it, the players before him chose not to go. Therefore, with. As far as the pecking order goes, he was next in line, so therefore, he's a Pro Bowler.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah, actually, I'm trying to think. I made the Pro Bowl. I made a Pro bowl. Like, let's see, 96. I made it. 95. I made it, like, damn near like, five of my times, because I think prime went like, eight, nine times, and I think 92, 93, 94. No, I didn't go 94. I made it, but I didn't go Eric Green. Eric Green was the alternate. I looked at it like, okay, that looked good on his resume. He hit me up. Hey, dog, what's. What's going on? I said, what. Hey, you know, I got this. You good to go?
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
That's dope. That's laugh. That's laugh. Hey, that's very generous for you.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Hey, Ocho, that's what we.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Very generous.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
You call up. Chris Carter told the story. My brother. My brother had made it, and Chris was the alternate. And he like, man, your brother going to the Pro Bowl, I like. I mean, he ain't. He ain't loving it. I mean, if he go, it's only because I'm going. Hit my brother up. Brother say, hey, all of a sudden, my brother had an injury. Chris sent him a bottle.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Right, right, right. That's. That's dope.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
But that's. But, you know, somebody had incentives.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Go get there. Most definitely. Most definitely.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah, for sure. Sean Mar said, I have pro helmet that I walk past every day is signed by some of the best players in NFL history. Legends, hall of Famers, and real goats. The pro used to be a badge of honor and respected. Things have changed. Dave said, you sound like a. A little. Be a little beat. Been hanging around your dad too much. My bad.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
It was a random. Okay, okay.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
That was Sean Merriman. Then somebody tweeted. Re. Tweeted back at him, and that. That was Sean response.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
I mean. I mean, he's right. He's right. I mean, that era of football, obviously, I played against Shan Merriman, made the Pro bowl with him as well. I mean, it was different, huh? And the game. The game has evolved. I mean, the meaning of the Pro bowl has changed tremendously. I don't think players in today's era will understand what it meant to fly and take that 10 hour flight with your family and see some of the people and meet some, meet some of their kids and their wives and seeing some of the coaches that some of the players bought and just, I mean, it, it was dope. It was dope. I mean, enjoying the island, enjoying the people, enjoying the culture in general. You know, throughout the entirety of the week, it, it, it, it was different. It was different. And standing at the Ihilani with that goddamn French toast. I still don't know what, I don't, I don't know if it was a French tofu or whether it was a syrup at the Ihelani out in Hawaii, but oh my goodness, it's the, to this day, there's only been one place. Now I don't mean to veer off track. There's only been one place where I've had French toast as good as the French toast in the Halani at that, at that hotel, and that's at a restaurant in Montreal called La Avenue. Oh, oh my goodness.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
The fact they got a restaurant in, I think I said ash, the thing on, on ig, they got a restaurant in, in New York that we got to go try to Pancakes there.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
It's good.
- [32:08]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah, I'm a pancakes guy. All things being equal, I'd rather have pancakes than French toast, but I'd go pancakes French toast, waffles for me, that would be my choice. Okay. I mean, some people like French toast, some people like waffles, some people like pancakes, but I'm a pancakes French toast waffle guy. I like it, but it is. But congratulations, Shador. Look, everybody ain't gonna be happy, but it is what it is. Oh, Joe.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
NFL head coaching jobs but apparently nobody wants to be coached to Browns Another coach passed on taking the Browns head coaching job. The Jags OC Grant Yudinsky has withdrawn from consideration as head coaching position but is still pursuing the Bills head coaching job. Mike McDaniel decided that he'd rather go down the ladder and expected to be the Chargers OC than the Browns head job and Chris Shuler who's the DC for the Rams reportedly passed and requested on a requested meeting from the Browns. The Browns now have interviewed commanders running back Anthony Lynn Saturday, former head coach of the Chargers Ojo when the coaches would rather stay coordinators than go take that job, does that speak to the dysfunction that is actually going on?
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
It speaks to the dysfunction. But I, I, I mean, I got into it with some Brown fans today on Twitter. We, we, I mean, obviously we had some dialogue back and forth. And, and I, I said, you know, three coaches pulled out and they said, well, those coaches pulled out because they know they weren't getting the job. And then they talked to me. You need to talk about what you know, because administration or those in positions of power with the Cleveland Browns were flying out to see someone by the name of Nate. I don't remember what, what, what Nate's last name was. Excuse me, Chad. You can probably correct me that he's, he's going to be the one to get the job. And I'm like, well, yeah, either way it goes, I don't think coaches are wanting to take, it's not a coveted job. It's not like everyone is lining up, knocking down the door. No. To want to be the head coach of the Cleveland Browns. Listen, I agree. As much as, as much as I love my Bengals, I've always been an advocate for the Cleveland Browns players, not the organization itself. The players especially, you know, Denzel Ward, Miles Garrett, Shador Sanders, Grand Del. You, you know how I am. If you've watched this show long enough, you know how I've always shown support for the Cleveland Browns even though they're not my team. But it's a dysfunctional organization. It always, it always has been for a very, very long time. And one thing I don't do is I really don't talk about organizations in general, but sometimes you have to call a spade a spade, even if it's me who's always on the positive side of things. And it's not good, which is why most of the coaches don't want to coach there. Another issue is obviously the quarterback situation. I don't think there's nothing cemented in place where a head coach feels that comfortable going into that building saying, you know what? This is where we're going to start and we're going to build from here and we'll worry about everything else on the back end.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I agree. I, I think the thing is that a head coach goes in there and they know Andrew Barry still has control. Most of the time, coaches Want to come in, they want to bring their own general manager. With that being said. And then there's a direct. Like I don't actually get an opportunity to talk to Jimmy and D. Haslam. I got to deal with Andrew Barry, who's effed up since he's been there. I don't think. He didn't select Miles Garrett, did he? What was the. The guy that selected Miles Garrett? He selected Baker. Also John Dorsey. John Dorsey.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
I.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
It is one of 32. When you willing to say instead of being, you know, kind of your own boss, I would still rather just, you know, be an OC or DC Where I am. I think that speaks a lot. That speaks loud and clear.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
I mean, hey, listen, if the Browns want to. If Browns looking for a head coach, you know, who can go over there and coach him on.
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- [39:13]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Nah, you got to realize that. You do realize that the owner of the Cincinnati Bengals, his dad used to. That's who the Browns are named after. They probably gonna have anything.
- [39:24]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
It's all. It's all good. It's all good. I mean, I'm. Listen, I'm just. I'm just throwing my name out there. So listen, Browns need a head coach. Philadelphia Eagles, they need the offensive coordinator. I'm just. Listen, I'm manifesting it. I'm manifesting the opportunity. Maybe it might present itself. If it doesn't, I tried.
- [39:42]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah, well, you keep manifesting. I'm manifesting other things, but coaching ain't something that I'm manifesting. I promise you. I promise you that I've. I've been manifesting a lot of things. I've been trying to speak a lot of stuff into it, into existence. Been praying about a lot of stuff. Coaching in the NFL ain't something that I've been praying about. It's. Coaching in the NFL ain't something I've ever prayed about. I got you being a player. That was it. Once I. Once I said I'm done, I want another.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Disconnected from the game, huh?
- [40:14]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
No, I'm not disconnected.
- [40:16]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Disconnecting from. From it. As far as coaching.
- [40:18]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yes. But you know what, Ocho? This allows for me. It allows me to stay close to the game without having to work those long ass hours because I'm excessive. Like I'm obsessive. Well, that's what they call it. Obsessive. When you lazy and don't want to do what you want to do, you say, oh, he obsessive. No, I just want to be great. At what? Because that's. Anybody that's been Great at anything. They were ups. What, what you call obsessive at one point in time, Serena was obsessive, Tiger woods was obsessive, Kobe was obsessive. But see, nobody ever said. I guess because Kobe didn't speak about it, everybody came out when Mike McDonald said what he said. But I guarantee you there are night. There are times that Vanessa did everything for the kids, got them ready, got them to go to school without the pta, without their functions. And then when he retired, he could take on more of that responsibility. But nobody didn't say without was a flex that Kobe was up at. He said he was in the gym at 6, at 4 o' clock in the morning, got two hours in, come home, shower, eat, lay down, back in the gym at 9, shower, eat, back in the gym at 4. Nobody said Kobe, nobody said Kobe was. Oh, Kobe died. Ain't no flex.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
See, I don't think people understand. I don't think people understand the sacrifice that goes into it. The amount of hours that you have to put in to be great. The discipline to that level of great level. You know, the Tom Brady's, the Tiger Woods. I, I don't think people understand it. They know they put the work in.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I, I don't Sereno.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Yes, they understand how much work and how much sacrifice, how many, how many things are sacrifice that are immediate to you, including family, including kids. To reach that level of success, it's not easy.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah, any entrepreneur, whether you're talking about Bill, whether you're talking about Bill Gates, where you're talking about Jeff Bezos, where you're talking about Larry Ellison, anybody, Zuckerberg, anybody you want to make. If you talk about that level of success. Now, I'm not, I'm not knocking anybody says, I'd rather be a family man. I want to be a family woman. And my family is more important than ascending and having enormous tracts of wealth after you. I got no problem with that. I'm never gonna knock somebody for what they choose as important to them. But I think early on you get a kind of sense. I think Serena and Venus got a sense early on. Well, we want to be the best. Well, the dad who had no formal tennis training says, well, this is what it's going to take. Earl woods, who had really no formal golf training, says, well, son, this is what it's going to take. Michael Jordan, Michael Jordan says, like, this is what it's going to take for me to be obsessive. This, this is it. It's got to be the end all, be all and to. To people that don't want to be that. I don't begrudge them. I don't.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
It's different, though.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Some people's like, I just want to grow up, have a family, be a husband and be a father to my kids.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
And, you know, I think the difference is, is Coach talked about it. And I think because he talked about it, because he. He voiced what he has to go through or what he's not able to do, it's frowned upon. But if. If all these greats, all these legends were to hold that same conversation, if it was able to be had, especially from Kobe, and you get the same thing, you get the same thing from Michael Jordan as well.
- [43:43]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
How many coaches you think do love what Mike McDonald does that make it seem like he the only one? Because I know, because I was there when the coaches would come. When the coaches would come back. Oo. And they didn't go home, they went straight upstairs, started breaking down film. And they might not go home until. They might go home during the day. Like Monday, they might go home for an hour, but they write back Tuesday, they're there the whole night. Wednesday, the whole night, it was Thursday, that they got an opportunity to leave at 6:00'.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
But that's the price you have to pay. Oh, yeah, absolutely.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Absolutely. Absolutely. And you know, the funny thing about it is we. We all work. We all work whether. Whether. Whether it's 9 to 5 or whether it's graveyard shift. But there's diff. There's different levels of being a psycho when it comes to your craft and what you do.
- [44:32]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Different levels of sacrifice.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Yeah, that as well. I like calling those the Jordans, the Kobe, the Tiger Woods. They. They are psycho. Like, literally psycho. Because a few screws have to be loose to be able to have the discipline to do what they do and do it over and over and over and over until you. You not get it perfect. I. I forgot the word. You say it sometime, too. You might not get it perfect. Damn. I forgot.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
No. Well, you don't do it to get. You just. You don't do it till you get it right. You just do it so you can't get it wrong.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
That. That. That's. That's it. That's it right there.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
That's what the Tom Brady's made it look so easy.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
And it's so. And it's so difficult.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
The Peyton Mannings, now, they're great fathers now because what their job entails now doesn't require that. That level of discipline, that level of communication, that level, that level of obsession, what they do now. Now everybody's telling me that Tom is, Has gotten better at doing what he does. I don't know, I haven't heard him, but I had a conversation with him last summer and had a conversation. He's like, you know, and I was like, look, bro, you got to realize you didn't become what you became your first year. So what made you think that you were going to just pick this up and be great at it your first year?
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
It's going to take, you know what, you know what?
- [45:52]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
And you can't be anybody else but Tom Brady. So everybody talking about, well, he ain't Romo or he ain't John Madden. Nope, he's Tom Brady.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
And he.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
And that's the. Be the best Tom Brady at calling the game that you can be and then let the chips fall with it.
- [46:06]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Got much better. He's gotten much better at it. But the one thing about it is, is Tom Brady, his first year.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Okay. Yeah.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
And he gradually continued to get better because of one thing. Repetition. Repetition. Yes, Repetition.
- [46:21]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
He put time in. He understood. Now you watch him. Whereas before, he would never, like when the guy, when, when the guy was telling. Was talking to him, he was looking, stand at the camera as opposed to taking a question, listen to the guy, listen, had to talk and then turn to the camera.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Yeah. Hey, got better. Matter of fact, speaking of, speaking of, speaking of that, man, what you think about me doing color commentary, too? Listen, I, I think, I think I would be good at it. I think I would be good that I, I have to work on my cursing. I work on my cursing. But listen, I can, I can talk the game, I know, in, in extent and in depth, but I can also tell a story as the game is going.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
So I think, well, here's the thing. It's hard to tell stories during the game because you got to talk in three to five seconds because you can't talk too long because the next player's about to happen. So you got to put that thing in a nice neat boat. You. It's a lot more difficult than people think. And people like, like, like Madden, but Madden was very simplistic. He's circling sweat. He got smoke coming off the guy's head and he boom, boom, boom, boom. People like that because he was very simplistic and what he was saying, he didn't get. He wasn't talking about no quarters coverage and he wasn't talking about this. It was very, very simple. He was like, look at, he Got a double here, double here, and a pull around here and there's an alley there. People love that. But it's a. What makes that job so difficult, Ocho, is that you're talking about what's happening in real time as a pregame. In the pregame show. You talking about what you think will happen in the post game show, you're talking about what has actually happened during that live. You're talking about what is actually happening before your eyes. And guess what? You don't get a chance to reverse.
- [48:06]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
And listen, that's all experience. That's all experience. And being able to recall based on experience and what you've seen before playing and being able to adapt that to what you're seeing in real time.
- [48:18]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yep. Yeah, I mean, I, I like. I mean, look, I, I just. For me, Ocho, I'm not, I don't, I don't really need. I look. And I'm sure the guys do a great job, but what they do, I don't need.
- [48:32]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Right.
- [48:32]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Told me. Because the one thing that you don't want to have happen is to regurgitate what somebody is saying. Oh, you just heard such and such say that. No, I, I just, I just.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Yeah.
- [48:47]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
No, I mean, you do realize that I, I played the game a little bit. I was. Okay. I'm not saying I'm a top 10 player in the history of the game, but I was an okay player and I know what I see and I, you know, and I can recall, but it was, it's, it's, it's great. I just can't believe the Browns have found themselves in this situation. I believe the Raiders have their guy in mind. A lot of people say it's going to be Clint Kubiak. I do think Clint is very deserving of a job. You see the job that he's done with, with Sam Darnold, because remember, Ocho, he was in, he was in New Orleans before Kelly Moore got there, so. And you see the job that he's done with, with Sam Darnold.
- [49:37]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
So you think, well, obviously, Clint Kubiak, knowing that the number one pick, obviously gonna be Fernando Mendoza, I mean, okay, I, I like it. I like it.
- [49:46]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I think still we talked about this, Ocho. I thought, I think this is just my personal. I haven't talked to anybody in Baltimore. I think the reason why Baltimore went defense is that they said Lamar Jackson has won two MVPs with two different coordinators. We believe Lamar Jackson is so great, we don't give a damn who the coordinator is. His greatness is going to show no matter what. We need somebody to repair this defense. This is where we. Losing games. This is. We have double digit leads and we're squandering those leads. We were last or. We were last or near the bottom and pass defense and, and sacks and all these stats. And so I think that's what Steve Bashadi was going for. And as a matter of fact, he, I think he was in Baltimore with John Harbaugh before he went to the Chargers. So that's, that's, that's, that's my thought process on that. But the Browns.
- [50:48]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Look.
- [50:50]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I know Myles Garrett is making money and he's still not making more much as he should be making considering the type of player that he is. But I don't know how he can put the kind of time that he does to take care of his body and to be great as he is and just to get accustomed to this losing. I don't know how. It takes a special type of person, Ocho, to go out there and you know what you put in and you see, think about Ocho. They're playing from behind. He got 23 sacks and rarely, if ever did they have the lead.
- [51:29]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Yeah, well, listen, they, they just imagine.
- [51:32]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
If he had a team like if he had a team that could put points on the board and they got an opportunity to play for a lead and, and he got an opportunity to hunt.
- [51:41]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
That's, that's crazy. Well, listen, they did promise him. He did, he did have some, some gripes and said he wants to play for a winning organization. They paid him and they promised him we're going to build a winner.
- [51:55]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Promises like pie crust, thin and easily broken.
- [51:59]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Well, they can prove themselves this offseason. They can prove themselves in the draft.
- [52:02]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
How many times you seen people get before they get before that man stand right there at the altar. They. And promise I'm gonna love you for.
- [52:08]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Better or for worse. And, and, and, and be gone.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Sickness that in health, rich or poor.
- [52:15]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
As soon as you broke, they out the door.
- [52:18]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah. Or as soon as you get sick, they gone.
- [52:21]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
This is too much. I didn't sign up for this. Hey, leave boy, whatever. I'm still, I'm still thinking about that news you gave me at the beginning of the show. Man, golly boy, that's exciting.
- [52:35]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah. People say, well, Barry Sanders was that guy. And Barry left.
- [52:37]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Yeah, he did.
- [52:38]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
They kept, they kept promising bad. They kept promising bad. Kept promising bad barrister after 10 years. Yeah, y'.
- [52:44]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
All.
- [52:44]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Y' all just running games. Y' all Y', all, we're not getting better. As a matter of fact, I think we're starting to take a step back.
- [52:51]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Calvin Johnson.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
That's why Calvin Johnson. Same thing. I mean think about it. You got two of the all time great players. Billy Sims. Actually, that, that 20 number was special. I don't know. I know you don't remember.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Wait, why? Shoe White shoes. Oh, that's John, that's.
- [53:05]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
No, that's. That's Billy White Johnson. Billy Sims was a Heisman Trophy winner. I think Billy came out in 78. Yeah, 78 because Earl Campbell won the Heisman in 77. Billy was 78. Charles White was 79. George Rogers was 80. Marcus Allen was 81. Herschel Walker was 82. Mike Rogier was 83. Doug Flutie was 80, 84. Bo Jackson was 80. But you know the fan Ocho, I'm.
- [53:35]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Picking up what you're putting down.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
So with that being said, he was special, but he got an acl and you know, back then guys didn't come back from ACLs like they do now. People marvel at, at Adrian Peterson and they should. You do realize that Rod Woodson tore his ACL in the first game of the season and played in the Super Bowl. Damn. He did. He did.
- [54:02]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
That's crazy.
- [54:03]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I still, I. Jerry tore his ACL and played in the last, the second to the last game of the season.
- [54:10]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
I don't understand how they did that. But Adrian Peterson is the most remarkable person to come back from ACL and have a crazy season post ACL tear. I don't know what doctor he went to. I don't know what kind of rehab he did, but man, whatever he did or whatever process or rehab he went through, that's what everyone else. That tears their eels. They. That's where they need to go. Unbelievable.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I don't know. Did, did, did that James Andrews do. Was it Andrews that did AP surgery or else? Because I don't think he went to the stabbing Hawkins Clinic. But I mean eventually somebody's going to take the job. They're going to say, they're going to lie to him and tell her you're going to have control. You have could say over the 53. Yeah, he went to James Andrews down in Birmingham. I don't know if he's still doing. Sir, Dr. Andrews old now. He's got to be like 80.
- [55:14]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
He that old you think?
- [55:16]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah, He's 83.
- [55:24]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Done. Huh?
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I don't know. You know, a lot of times when they have sons, their sons become. Because that's how Dr. Watkins is. And so they, you know, the son takes over the practice. But. Yeah, but you got to realize. Oh, Cho Shell. I remember hearing about him when I was first got in the league instead of Hawkins Clinic. They were the team doctors for the Broncos. They had a place up in. In Aspen, Colorado. In Aspen. And a lot of guys would go up there to get. To get ACLs or they did microfacture. Rod had microfacture also where they bore holes in the knee and let it drip and. And let it try to heal itself.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Yeah.
- [56:09]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Ocho. The Seahawks quarterback Reed Woolen apologized for his costly taunting penalty that almost cost the Seahawks a trip to the Super Bowl. No cap. High intensity game. When you're in the zone, you balling with your bro, sometimes you black out. Can you trust that he won't black out again? Because what happens, you know, you know, Diggs gonna be talking. Diggs is a talking.
- [56:32]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
He gonna be all right, you know. You know, you know, you're not gonna caution, you're not gonna cross your team. Obviously, emotions are very high.
- [56:37]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
He.
- [56:37]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
He made a good play. He was excited. He lost sense of self in. In that moment. Obviously he had one of his players get on him. They exchanged words on the sideline. The good thing about this is you. You live and you learn, and it didn't cost your team. So you know that next week you're not going to just mess around and do it again. So you're going to be a little bit more cautious. Control your emotions, make your plays, celebrate with your teammates and leave the trash talking alone.
- [57:04]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Control your emotions. Don't let them control you. V. Like, hey, get him.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah, cuz that's what we did. Hey, you got somebody? Hey, we play the Raiders of the. The Chiefs. Oh, yeah, you already know. We.
- [57:20]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Damn.
- [57:21]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
You got to try to get any. Any age you possibly can. Hey, buddy.
- [57:30]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Oh, that's gonna be. Hey, I'm. I'm so excited. But that's gonna be a good game, man. We. Hey, we don't have to worry about the weather being an element, you know, we don't have to worry about.
- [57:40]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
At least hope not, because, you know, sometimes it does rain in San Francisco.
- [57:45]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
You know, hey, at night time. Well, at night time. I mean, we're not even gonna be at the game. You going to the game? Yeah. Well, you see. Hey, you seen the ticket prices, man?
- [57:54]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yes. Four tickets. 200,000. Four tickets, 65,000, please.
- [58:00]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Hey, the best seat. The best seat in the house. The best ticket in the house. My couch, too, because I Leave. I leave. I think I leave Sunday morning.
- [58:08]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
If I'm not mistaken, I leave Friday morning.
- [58:17]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
By the time I get home, I'll be able to sit down and get ready to watch the game nice and quiet.
- [58:24]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
No, man, I'm. Look here. If the. If the Broncos had made it, I was coming home.
- [58:30]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Either way.
- [58:32]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Either way. Yes, I. I'm gonna have my Bronco gear on rooting for him, but I'm not going to the game.
- [58:41]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
No. Hey, they turn it. It's unfortunate. Obviously, I understand it. I understand the business side of it. They've turned it into a corporate event. We have this conversation every single year when it comes time to Super Bowl. The true fans that support these two teams throughout the season, that are at all the home games, that go on the road games, I'm not sure. Unless you're just extremely well off or you saved up to be able to afford to be able to go to the game.
- [59:07]
Julian Edelman
Huh?
- [59:08]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Like, it's ridiculous. He.
- [59:10]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah, it's. Look, a lot of this. I mean, the advertisers, they spend so much, and they get a block of tickets. You got to, you know, Pepsi and Gatorade and Verizon and, you know, all. All those. All those corporate sponsors, Pizza Huts, they get so many tickets. Oh, Joe. I mean, hey. And I don't begrudge them. I mean, man, if I. Hey, you better. If I'm spending 3,400 million dollars, you better give me a hundred damn tickets.
- [59:35]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
I mean, understandable, understandable.
- [59:41]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Look at Ocho.
- [59:42]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
What up? What up, twin? Yeah, come on. Come on down here with your boy. Come on. Hey, hey. Bring him on down. Take him to the dog park. Let him. Let him. Let him. Let him have a little fun out there.
- [59:55]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
He can go to the dog park. Cause he. He. He's not.
- [59:59]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Oh, you got him fixed.
- [60:01]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I did.
- [60:01]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Hey, I'm had to call CPS on you. Yeah, you can't. You can't be doing. You can't be doing a dog like that, man. Now you're innocent. Now you pure. He would never know what it's like to experience, you know, horizontal activity.
- [60:16]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
No, you say, I ain't want to be no dad. He'd say, child support, say, kick my dad after. But he said, nah, I'm good. Why you ain't upstairs on the bed with your brother? Teddy bear on the bed. That's why I left it. Why you not in the room with your aunties? She closed the door on you.
- [60:37]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Hey, make him. Make him bark. Huh? Oh, he can't hear me because you.
- [60:47]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Got daddy get on me, got the earbuds in. Say I go. Say I go, I go. I don't know when to stop. I said I don't know when to stop. He said, only time I get really excited when I'm going to get my brother titles because I know he in that room. And so I just start scratching on the door.
- [61:07]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Hey, I'm think I. I might get me a dog. Unk, man. Cuz you just be. Just, you know, something.
- [61:14]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Just that some you going too much.
- [61:16]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
I know, but some just, you know, that gonna love you unconditionally, you know, no matter what. You know, good day, bad day, for sure. You know, I just. I'm. I'm trying to think. I'm. I'm trying to think. I'm. Should I do that? What kind of dog can I get? Huh?
- [61:32]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
You probably. Well, I mean, you get a small dog and you could travel with it.
- [61:36]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Oh, hey, that'd be a good one. Hey, what about my furniture? You know, all my. All my furniture. White, huh? White rugs, white everything.
- [61:49]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Well, yeah, I would recommend you getting a dog then.
- [61:51]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Hey, is there a way to potty?
- [61:53]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
But, I mean, but like. Like, like Teddy. Like Teddy. Teddy likes to get. He don't really care about the furniture. He wants to. He don't really care about getting on the bed. He just wants to be on the floor. Teddy wants to be on the bed. Titus wants to be. Okay, okay, so.
- [62:08]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Okay. I gotta think about that, man. I think my. And I'm gonna get me a white dog. So I'm gonna give me a white dog to go with the white furniture.
- [62:16]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Well, I mean, you can get a cool boss. You can get a B.
- [62:21]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Hey, I had to be John. I had to be John when I was. When my grandma had to be John named Studly when I. When I was a baby. When I was young.
- [62:28]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
You can get an alibi, a dogo.
- [62:30]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
No, come on.
- [62:33]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah, I know. So I just try to get a dog that's white. I mean, you get Pomeranians.
- [62:40]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
That's white. I ain't never seen no white palm. I gotta holla at my homeboy at the city, you know, I can get, you know, hey, I can get your dogs. No, sometimes, you know, y' all pay 5, 10,000 for these dogs. I gotta do it at the. At the city, you know. You know, who can get anything for about 200. 200? I don't know how you get him.
- [63:00]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
He want me to keep. He want me to keep scratching him. What'd you do, Ocho? Before joining The Seahawks last off season. Cooper Cuff's departure from the Rams was more contentious than initially appeared. Mike Michael Silver, I know Mike very well. Revealed more details behind what led Cook released reporting that rather than trying to negotiate a salary deduction with the former All Pro, the Rams had unceremoniously cut ties urging him to retire. The Rams also reportedly tried to dictate Coop's market, excuse me, Cups market, once he became a free agent. Sources told Silver that Kupp became to believe that some of the LA officials had cautioned potential suitors against paying him anything more than the vet minimum suggested that his age and accumulation of injuries had provoked a steep decline. Kopp spent his first six eight seasons of his career in Los Angeles after being drafted with a third round pick in 2017. He helped lead the Rams to a Super bowl title in 2021, earning a Super Bowl MVP and NFL Offensive Player of the year honors. Now cup has gotten the last laugh. Cup had the greatest receiving season in NFL history. When you combine that season that he had, oh, he was a triple Crown. He finished a couple of yards short of Calvin Johnson. I think he had like 144 catches, 1940 something yards. Calvin Johnson's record is 1964. But allegedly he was a triple Crown and, and then he parlayed that in the postseason and was crazy when he absolutely had to be. He was historically great in the postseason. So I believe when you look well over 2000, what he had. I think he had like 2400 receiving yards.
- [64:45]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
I mean in his totality. Yeah, it's. It was something like that. Yes. But even, even with that, even with that historic season he had in 2021, you see how the business side of things come back to bite you in the. And you know what? Oh yep. Now you don't lost a step. No, he didn't lose a step. You just. You stopped giving the opportunities. You gave him the same.
- [65:04]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
You got.
- [65:05]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Yeah. I mean and obviously you got Puka, but you still didn't put him in position to make those same plays before we got there.
- [65:11]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
No, you put him in position. He was, he was injured probably. Yeah, he had some injuries. But you got to realize think about how often make Ocho. Do you know how many hits blows you got to take if you catch 140 something passes now how many times did you drop the ball and you still got hit?
- [65:29]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Yeah.
- [65:29]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Hey, I'm just so think about that over the course of a career now Puka is there. Puka's a little bigger. But Cooper cup is bigger. People Think Cooper Cup's a small guy? Cooper cup ain't small.
- [65:41]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
He looked like it on the field. Until you get up close. Yeah.
- [65:45]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
He's just a big boy now and so. But my thing is. Oo, I don't. You. You shouldn't be able to dictate. Okay, you release me. No, I don't want to retire. I don't believe. Look, Oo, you.
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- [65:59]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
You married, you get a divorce. You try to dictate to your wife. Well, I don't think you should get remarried. I think you should just, you know, just live by yourself.
- [66:07]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
I'm not.
- [66:08]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I'm not sure, you know, and vice versa. The wife gets divorced and say, I don't think you should get remarried. No, no, no. You don't want me. Don't worry about what. What I go do somewhere else. I might decide to retire. I might decide not to get a spouse, but that's gonna be my choice.
- [66:24]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Why would they do that anyway? Why would they even care once he decides to leave and you didn't want to pay me? You telling me to. To take a pay cut? Not only you telling me to take a pay cut. You telling other teams that might want me. Tell them to only give me the vet minimum. What is that all about? Why would you even care?
- [66:41]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
It's not your money.
- [66:42]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
Why would they even care? I don't. I don't understand.
- [66:44]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Exactly. And.
- [66:46]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
And.
- [66:47]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
And.
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Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
And.
- [66:47]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
And. And Stan Cronky, he's the largest landowner in the world. Got over 2.3 million acres. He worth 16, 17 billion dollars on the. On the. The Nuggets, the Avalanche.
- [67:03]
Co-host (possibly Shannon Sharpe)
I need the hard last stand, too, bro. I'm glad you said that, bro. Could you. Matt, could you. Could you imagine if I played for the Rams? I would have been the first player to be a. To play a two. Be a two. A two sport player like Deion, huh? Yeah. I would have played for Arsenal, and I would have played for the Rams.
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