Nightcap - Hour 1: Teddy Bridgewater SUSPENDED for helping kids + Garrett Wilson GETS PAID!

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Nightcap - Hour 1 Summary

Release Date: July 15, 2025

Hosts:

• Shannon Sharpe – NFL Legend, 3x Super Bowl Champion, Pro Football Hall of Fame member
• Chad “C-Note” Johnson – Liberty City's own Bengals Ring of Fame honoree, Pro Bowler, All-Pro

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Episode Overview

In this engaging episode of Club Shay Shay: Nightcap, hosts Shannon Sharpe and Chad Johnson dive deep into two significant topics in the world of football: Teddy Bridgewater’s suspension for his philanthropic efforts and Garrett Wilson’s lucrative four-year contract extension. The conversation blends heartfelt discussions about community impact with in-depth analysis of player negotiations and league dynamics.

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Section 1: Teddy Bridgewater’s Suspension for Helping Kids

Timestamp: 14:14 - 23:09

Background:

Teddy Bridgewater, the head football coach at his alma mater, Miami Northwestern High School, has been suspended for allegedly providing impermissible benefits to his players. This suspension follows a Facebook post where Bridgewater detailed his personal financial support for the program, including:

• $14,000 for training camp
• $9,500 for team pride sets
• $2,200/week for pregame meals
• $1,300/week for recovery
• $700/week for transportation

Discussion Highlights:

• Shannon Sharpe expresses strong support for Bridgewater, praising his dedication and financial commitment to the players. "What Teddy Bridgewater has done for that program and what he's done now is really unfortunate. It's ridiculous because he's been a huge help for those kids." ([04:29])

• Chad Johnson questions the administration’s motives, suggesting that Bridgewater’s actions were aimed at genuinely helping the players from a poverty-stricken area. "He’s giving them an opportunity. He knows not everyone will get a scholarship, but he’s providing the best resources." ([06:46])

• Ryan Seacrest adds that Bridgewater’s efforts went beyond football, emphasizing life lessons and preparing the kids for the next level. "He’s teaching these young men life lessons far beyond football." ([09:23])

• The hosts discuss the broader implications of Bridgewater’s suspension, debating whether it’s a protective measure by the school or an overreach that punishes genuine community service. They highlight the potential negative impact on the students who benefitted from Bridgewater’s support. "The only losers here are the kids. The administration doesn’t win, and neither does Teddy." ([19:38] - [20:18])

• Shannon Sharpe shares a personal anecdote about his grandmother’s influence on his time at Miami Northwestern, adding a nostalgic and personal touch to the discussion. "I never forget that conversation. I was a bull at one point." ([20:18])

Notable Quotes:

• "He’s being penalized for helping kids and doing good in the community." – Shannon Sharpe ([01:13])
• "If it was a private school, this is normal. But the public school is frowned upon." – Ryan Seacrest ([07:36])
• "It's ridiculous because he's been a huge help for those kids." – Chad Johnson ([09:58])

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Section 2: Garrett Wilson Gets Paid!

Timestamp: 25:22 - 47:32

Background:

Garrett Wilson, the number 10 overall pick in the 2022 NFL Draft, has signed a four-year extension worth $130 million, making him one of the highest-paid wide receivers in the league. Wilson has consistently achieved over 1,000 receiving yards each season and reached a career-high of 101 catches and seven touchdowns last year.

Discussion Highlights:

• Chad Johnson commends the Seattle Seahawks for securing Wilson, highlighting his consistent performance and importance to the team. "He's homegrown. There’s no speculation. We know what he is." ([25:22])

• Ryan Seacrest emphasizes Wilson’s impact on the field and the importance of surrounding him with supportive resources. "He deserves every dime of it. He had a career year." ([26:25])

• The conversation shifts to how Wilson’s new contract sets a precedent for other players, raising expectations and salary standards within the league. Chad Johnson reflects on the balance between rewarding talent and maintaining team dynamics. "He got to be comfortable with the numbers. Don’t let him disrespect you with the numbers." ([28:36])

• Shannon Sharpe and Chad Johnson discuss the broader implications of high-value contracts, comparing Wilson’s deal to those of top receivers like Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase. They debate whether this elevates the league's financial landscape or disrupts team salary structures. "We’re not dropping too far below that now. That’s not what we are." – Chad Johnson ([28:36])

• The hosts analyze how such contracts influence younger players, using examples from other teams and discussing the potential ripple effects across the NFL. "This raises the price tag for my young bulls down there with the Commandos." – Ryan Seacrest ([26:47])

• Chad Johnson offers insights into negotiation strategies, emphasizing fairness and the importance of avoiding resentment among players. "I would rather take a few dollars less because when you give a player more willingly, it builds better relationships." ([30:06])

Notable Quotes:

• "He’s had at least 1,000 yards every year and posted a career high 101 catches and seven touchdowns last year." – Chad Johnson ([25:22])
• "I’d rather you tell me what you’re going to give me, then begrudgingly give me more and ruin relationships." – Shannon Sharpe ([29:42])
• "He earned every dime of it. Rookie of the year, had a career year last year." – Chad Johnson ([26:47])

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Conclusion

Shannon Sharpe and Chad Johnson provide a compelling blend of personal anecdotes, professional insights, and heartfelt discussions in this episode of Club Shay Shay: Nightcap. They navigate the complexities of Teddy Bridgewater’s suspension with empathy and support, while also dissecting Garrett Wilson’s significant contract in the context of NFL economics and team dynamics. Listeners gain a nuanced understanding of both the human and financial aspects of these high-profile football topics.

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Key Takeaways:

• Teddy Bridgewater’s Suspension:

  • Highlights the tension between community service and administrative regulations in public schools.
  • Emphasizes the positive impact of Bridgewater’s efforts on underprivileged students.
  • Raises questions about the balance between safeguarding the institution and supporting genuine altruism.

• Garrett Wilson’s Contract:

  • Demonstrates the increasing financial rewards for top-tier NFL players.
  • Explores the implications of high-value contracts on team salary structures and other players.
  • Discusses negotiation tactics that prioritize long-term team harmony over immediate financial gains.

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[Ryan Seacrest]

It's unfortunate from, from my understanding, obviously Miami, Northwestern, very good, very good program, very good program. Obviously they just won the state championship last year. You know, last year Teddy did a hell of a job coming in and changing that program around in less than a year. I think the previous season, I think they, they hadn't really won that many games. Obviously inner city school. And the fact that out of his own money, out of his own pockets, being able to feed some of those kids, obviously this is, I hate, I hate saying a poverty stricken area. I hate saying it. I hate using that type of word. But These are kids that need the rides, transportation to and from practice. Obviously, Teddy takes upon himself to feed the kids as well, because preparing them for the next level, because this is the type of treatment you're going to get at the next level. You know, giving them that type of exposure, that type of atmosphere and what it's like to be at the next level. Some of the things he was doing to help the kids is unfortunate. I've heard both sides, I think, if I'm not mistaken, from what I've heard, obviously being down here in Miami, Teddy Bridgewater and that athletic director at Miami Northwestern, they don't see eye to eye. They're not on the same page that way. They should be. What Teddy has bought, you know, to that. To that school and what he's done for that school and some of the things he has been doing, there should be no reason why they don't see eye to eye based on what Teddy's trying to do for these kids and giving back in every way he can out of his pocket. I think also on the flip side of things, I think it can also be a liability for the school in a sense, if anything is to happen to these kids, you know, God forsaken that, that. That it wouldn't. I think the school has to protect themselves as well. So I kind of see both sides of it. But what Teddy's doing, man, listen, I salute you. It's really unfortunate. If it was a private school, this is something that they do. This is something that is, Is. Is. Is normal. It's a norm for them. But the public school is frowned upon. And the fact that he was suspended for it is ridiculous. Huh? It's ridiculous because he's been a huge help for those kids. Huge help for that program. And what he's been able to do.

[Chad Johnson]

Is it because he personally took the money out of his own pocket or if there, like you said, if it was a big enough school and they could raise the money and this happened, would. I think the issue, because it seems like I think they're getting into it, Ocho, is that you're like, you're paying these players, you're giving them things that other kids don't get. If they went to another school, name my fault.

[Ryan Seacrest]

That had nothing to do with nothing. I think the problem. I think the problem is on. I think the problem is, I think everything would have been good if Teddy hadn't posted what he had done. I think nobody would know. Nobody. Nobody would have known. You know, he wanted. He. He posted what he had done for the kids in the, in the mountain, which he had spent to that point and then asked for donations, which he probably would. I think he would have been safe if he's asked for the donations instead.

[Chad Johnson]

Ask for the donations first. What he had done.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Listen, one thing about Miami Northwestern alumni. Oh, them bulls gonna band together. You hear me? Them boy. Them bulls gonna band together and raise whatever money needs to be raised for those kids to make sure that they have and they don't go without.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, I mean I see some of the, you know, I, I see some of these schools in Texas and California and Georgia where they building these 15, 20, 30, 40, 50 million dollar facilities for high school program. Obviously in the south, football is king. Obviously in the west, California football is king as well. But in the South, Georgia, Florida, South Carolina, North Carolina, Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, Texas, football is clean king. And they will close Friday nights. They close everything down early because they want to make sure the, the fans get out there and cheer on their local team. With that being said, I'm like I said, 95. I don't know what a team pride said is somebody going to need to explain to me what's a team pride? Set the pre game meals. 2200 a week for pregame. Me, oh, I get, I guess, Ocho, that's not a lot. If you feeding 100 kids. If you're feeding 100 kids, Ocho, that's not a lot of money. That's basically $20 a plate. And you talk about a high school kid. Hell, I know, I remember when I was in high school, I eat like three full plates. I mean, you know, they would obviously they wouldn't let you eat that much. They didn't want you to be out there. Roll it over. But you know, hey, Ocho, you get your what? Spaghetti. We got spaghetti. Or we got like steak and baked potatoes or something like that. Okay, once. Now that ain't no, that ain't no weekly. We didn't get no weekly pregame when.

[Ryan Seacrest]

You think about it.

[Chad Johnson]

But it's a lot, it's a lot different now.

[Ryan Seacrest]

It's different when you think about it. You think of the way he set the tone for that program, the way he set the tone for the players to get them acclimated to a certain lifestyle in which it would be like, once you reach that next level, this is what it's like. These are the ways you're supposed to be treated. These are life lessons long, far beyond football. If you think about it, what he's teaching these young men and what did he? And how did those young men repay him? By winning the state championship. Winning a state champion.

[Chad Johnson]

That's why everything shouldn't be posted. You see, they used his post against him just like. Hey, you know, we're on a little hard times right now. We appreciate. Appreciate any donations that we can get to make sure these kids have, you know, like, recover. Oh, so you know, we ain't getting no cup. We ain't know no cold tub was. Hey, I ain't gonna know about no damn cold tub till I got to the NFL. Ain't nothing about no damn cold tub. And plus you young. You ain't even got bone. You got gristle. Ain't nothing wrong with you. Get. Get out there. Rub some dirt on it. Get out there. Yeah. Now these kids getting weekly recovery. They getting cold tubs and all this other stuff.

[Ryan Seacrest]

The whole nine yards.

[Chad Johnson]

And I guess, you know, it's because Miami is so spread out, Ocho. Like, everybody is not like close facility, you know, like close proximity. So in order to get the kids to and from practice.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I'm glad you just said that too. I glad you just said that. Now, right across the street from Miami, Northwestern was. It was the pork and bean projects. The pork and bean projects is now gone. Uncle. Everything has been gen. What? Listen, you know, boy, it's a. It's a goddamn Dunkin Donuts across the street from where the Scott. I mean, Scott project, where the pork and beans was.

[Chad Johnson]

Dunkin Donuts, okay?

[Ryan Seacrest]

In the hood. Come on, man. So those kids have to travel from somewhere else now. They've been uprooted. They have no choice. So ain't no telling where they had to come from. And Teddy made sure they was able to get from point A to point B, be on time for practice, be on time for school. There's so much that he's done that we don't know.

[Chad Johnson]

Games.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Be on time for games. I mean, listen, it's ridiculous, but I also see the other side with the school having to protect themselves as well. In case anything happened to those kids, the first thing parents gonna do is they gonna sue, Uncle.

[Chad Johnson]

They gonna sue.

[Ryan Seacrest]

They gonna sue the school. And the school is liable.

[Chad Johnson]

Ocho, like when you played high school football, did your coach take the. Drop the guys off? I mean. Cause we practiced. We was already at school. So it wasn't like we went home and then came back to practice. Your black ass was already at school, so you just had practice right after school. So we ended school at 3:30. At 3 o', clock, we had practice at 3:30.

[Ryan Seacrest]

For me it was a little different. You have to understand, my grandmother, Miss Bessie made flowers. Miss Bessie made flowers. Taught right at Nautilus Middle School, which is right around the corner off of 41st street on the beach. I was already at Beach High, right? So I ain't really reading. I ain't need no ride to go nowhere because I was already. I was already there. Yeah, I was already there. So the last time for me getting rides of school. I never forget when I played for Miami Lakes Optimus 1988 for Coach Bud. Rest. Rest his soul. Coach Buddy. Coach Smitty used to pick me up all the way from Liberty City on 44th street and 11th Avenue, take me all the way out to Miami Lakes Optimus, which is Way on 67th Avenue, and take me to practice and drop me home every day. Every day.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Well, if you want the best player to play, you had. My granny had already told him, well, you want to play, you got to take, you got to fetch and bring that boy. Hey, it's really that simple. Cause I mean, what. How would I. Once I got. Once I got home to Route 4, Box 385, ain't nobody bringing me back to town. So if you wanted him, you got to come pick him up and you got to drink him, you got to drop him off. And so you know what I'm gonna say.

[Ryan Seacrest]

This, this, this lets me know. This is another example on how far we have to go. On how far we have to go. Teddy, listen. Making some of the less fortunate kids out of Liberty City that have been uprooted based on wherever they're living right now, allowing them to play a sport now that they love. And he wants them to excel without being held back by any family financial issues. So I'm going to cover that. I'm going to make sure you got no problem getting to school, getting to practice. I'm giving, I'm giving you gear, I'm getting you outfits, you know, so we all look like a team when we go places. I mean it's, it, it's. It's ridiculous, man. It's ridiculous. It's unfortunate. I wonder how long the suspension is.

[Chad Johnson]

Might be for the year. Pride sets or workout gear and travel suits and shoes. So basically oo so we don't look like an all tournament team. We got some guys in shirt and ties, we got some guys in sweatsuits, some guys in jeans, some guys wearing the cleats, some guys wear, you know, sneakers. So just so we all look uniformity, okay. You know, what guys? Hey, we gonna. Hey, we gonna have sweatsuits. So we all gonna wear Miami Northwestern sweatsuits or we all gonna wear, you know, khakis and a blue blazer and a white collar shirt, whatever the case may be. So now understanding this is what Teddy posted this afternoon. Oo damn. People done caused all this confusion. Got a phone call last night and there's no real investigation going on. I told you, I have to be an employee to be investigated. Now the paperwork thing still stands, but there is no investigation. We self reported Vern and his administration homeboys want me gone, apparently and tried to hire one of my dogs. Like bro wasn't going to lace me up. The suspicion came from Miami Northwestern. And it's impossible to suspend someone who doesn't work for you. So if I'm suspended from Miami Northwest, Miami Northwestern, am I free to go to another school of my choice? But I'm not going anywhere. And if it comes down to it, I'll volunteer from the bleachers like I used to in 2018, 2019, when there was no one had a problem. This is my last post about this.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, I'm not sure how, how true that Facebook post is, but again, where I stated earlier, I've heard the rumblings from other coaches at Nolan, at Carol City, at some of the other inner city schools, at Central, at Jackson. That the ad. I'm not sure who it is. I forgot his name. He's been there for a very long time. He's been there for a very long time. Even though the ad right now at Miami Northwestern, he's a Carroll City chief, you know, but they. They don't get along. I'm not sure why they don't. Based on what Teddy has done for that program and what he. And what he's doing now. It's unfortunate, man. And sometimes we get in our own way. We get in our own way because we think Teddy got a great thing going on there. He got a great thing going on there.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah. And it's not like you at St. Thomas Aquinas or you at Heritage or you had American. You had img. You have him. If you had. If you was at those program, Ocho, I'm sure Teddy wouldn't have the mere fact that Teddy had the means to dig in his pocket. I get. Like you said, Ocho, I really do see both sides because you. You're going down a slippery slope. If coaches can come out of their pocket and do all of these things for the kids, even though the kids deserve these. I Get. I don't. I totally understand what the administration is saying, man. This is a. This is a. An unprecedented game. And this is a very, very slippery slope, Teddy, that we're tr. That we're treading on because the precedent here. Because what should say another NFL or somebody of prominence becomes a coach and they fund everything, and now it. So I. And I get what they're saying, but Ted is just trying to give these kids an opportunity. He knows everybody's not going to get a scholarship, but he's trying to give those guys that maybe want a scholarship or have the potential or the ability to get one, that they have the. The best resources and the best means to be the absolute best.

[Ryan Seacrest]

What in the hell is wrong with my. I think I got a shortage. Hold on.

[Chad Johnson]

See, Chat, he got that big old house, got all that white furniture and piano and all that stuff, and look at him now. Ain't nobody heard a word you said.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Okay, it's a little shorter. It's a little shortage in my wire, and it's causing everything just to go out real quick.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, I mean, you pay all that money for that house and look at that.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Oh, no, no, no, no. That's just because I got. I got. I got so many things plugged up. The one. One little. I forgot what you call this little USB thing. But hey, hey, Unc. Man, it's. Oh, man, that's sad. That's sad. That's. That. I feel bad for the kids. I feel bad for the kids because now who's gonna be able to do it? You suspend Teddy for I'm not sure how long. You have a great team. You have a great program with some elite athletes over there at Miami, Northwestern. Now what happens? The meals disappear, the outfits, the looking like it's a business trip when it's time to go play a game. The therapy, the cold tub. The hot tub, the massage. I mean, like, everything is out the window now.

[Chad Johnson]

I agree. I agree. And I understand. I understand what Teddy was trying to do, but I also understand the school and the admin trying to protect themselves. Hopefully they come to some sort of. Some sort of resolution, because the only loser here are the kids. You know, there are no. There are no. There are no winners. The admin doesn't win. Teddy doesn't win. The kids lose.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Absolutely. But you know how. Do you know how the admin looks at it? They look at it as a win for them, even though the kids are going to have to suffer because they're not liable for anything. We're not Liable. Okay, well, they can't do this no more. So we don't have to worry about anything happening to the kids and it falling back on us.

[Chad Johnson]

Right. And they're not in the position if, if, if. If listening to you, what you said, this is an inner city school, and they don't have the resources, Ocho, to do the stuff that Ted was able to do coming out their pocket. I don't know if they. They can't sell enough catfish and spaghetti plates. I mean, you know, we used to have ra. You'll sell stuff and raffles. We used to sell candles and all kind of stuff to try to raise money to get uniforms and get this and that.

[Ryan Seacrest]

And it's so funny. And now we talk about Miami Northwest. And a quick story. Talk about my grandma Bessie Mayflowers, obviously. She taught in the Dade county public school system 41 years. 41. 42 years. Right. And I was the ball boy from. From when I was in. From, I think, maybe fifth grade. Fifth grade all the way until I got up to high school. I was about. I was a ball boy at Miami Northwestern. I was a little shorty. I never forget. The head coach at the time was Coach Goldsmith. The receiver coach at the time was Coach Hardwick. And I. I remember. I remember players names and all, man. And growing up, all I could think about was blue and gold. And when it's my time to go to high school, well, I'm finna be a bull. That's all that. That's all I can remember. I swear for God. One of the funniest conversations, you know how prime told you, talk to my grandma, she had some crazy stories. Yeah, man. I'm graduated eighth grade. It's time for me to go to high school. But Coach Goldsmith and Coach Hardwick, they come to my grandma house, they drive on down, they sit on down, and I'm hype. I got a smile on my face. Oh, I'm finna go to the West. You know, I'm gonna be ballin with all my homeboys in the hood, right, Man. Coach Goldsmith came in there, my grandma came out, she went and put a wig on, and she sat down, said, y' all want some coffee? I was like, coffee? What, man? Coach Hardwick, he said. He said his piece. Coach Goldsmith said his piece about wanting me to come be the West. He's been the ball with us for a very long time. He's a part of the family. And we want to know, Ms. Bessie, Ms. Flowers, what you think about him coming on down here to the west. And man, she hit that long. I don't think that's gonna be a good idea. No, I need to be able to keep an eye on him. You know, he's a little wild, he's a little. He's a little bad. And. And I need to be able to get to him fast. So I want him to be over there on the beach where if I get that phone call, I can get to him right away and Coach Goldber the hard way like, no, Ms. Flowers, we got him. We gonna make sure he good. He ain't gonna have no problems. He gonna have no issues. Huh? You see, I went to beach high, right? I would never. I would never forget that conversation, man. I never get those. Those. The bus rides, man. I. I still remember the players. Remember. You remember Magic Ben, man? Magic Benley. Magic Ben, Telly, Lockett? Fredo was a quarterback back then. Oh, man, I remember all them boys, man. Them was some good days, huh, man? So. So technically, I was a bull. I was a bull at one point.

[Chad Johnson]

For that you supposed to be. Anyway, so hopefully they get this thing resolved and Teddy can get back out there because, you know, let's do what's in the best interest of the kids. And. Yes.

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[Chad Johnson]

Garrett Wilson signs a four year extension worth $130 million which makes him one of the highest paid wide receivers in the NFL. The number 10 overall pick in the 2022 NFL Draft, Wilson is entering his fourth season in the NFL. He's had at least 1,000 yards every year and posted a career high 101 catches and seven touchdowns last year. Hey, I love, I like the, I, I, I like the deal. Oo they get one of the better players. They get him locked up, they drafted him. He's homegrown. You know what he is. You, hey, you watched this guy for the last three years come in and out of your building. You, you watch them work, come show up every Sunday and Thursday or whenever the guys play. So you know what you have. There is no speculation. Well, I wonder what we going to get when we get Garrett Wilson in our building. Well, you've had him in your building for the better part of three years. So you know exactly who and what this young man is. I like this deal. I like ain't no haggling. Well, I want to be the highest paid. Look, bro, make me an offer one I can't refuse. Oh yeah, I could work with. Oh, Joe.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I can work when I can't refuse. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Because the funny thing, he gonna hit him across the head again. He gonna, he gonna hit him across the head again. And we know what Garrett Wilson can be with consistent quarterback play because we saw him do it his rookie year. I understand how special he is. I understand what he can do. And I'm glad he had Justin Fields. I just need for the Officer, coordinator.

[Chad Johnson]

To continue to put his college. His college. His college quarterback. They have chemistry. They know each other.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I need them to put. I need them to continue to put Garrett Wilson in position to continue to make plays and make Justin field job easier. Because it's gonna be easy because you got that young. You got that young bail cow in the backfield that can hit his head off the goal post from anywhere on the field. So I think things gonna be a little easy for him. I'm glad he got his money. But what it does do, not to go off topic, but it raises the price tag for my young bull down there over there with the Commandos, who they need to go ahead.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, damn.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Scary. Terry deserved to get paid. Now he's done everything. He's been a model citizen. He wears that C on his chest for a reason. There's no need. Every time. Every time. Monk, unless you're a quarterback, you gotta fight tooth and nail for your money. Every time. No matter how you carry yourself, you do everything the right way. You're a perfect teammate. You say all the right things. Yeah, but when. When it comes time for that money, it's time to pay your players. They do it to any and everybody, no matter how you conduct your.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, my thing is, like I said, Ocho, where, you know, I are privy to the conversation behind the scene. What is he asking? Is he asking for Chase and Jefferson's money or does he want, you know, be one of the highest paid somewhere in that 28 to 32, 33 million.

[Ryan Seacrest]

He belongs in the conversation. I'm not saying Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase money, but we ain't dropping too far below that now. That's not what we. We not.

[Chad Johnson]

We not. Well, I think the thing is, okay, we look at. We looking at Garrett. Garrett Wilson, basically 30. What? 30. What is that? 32, 33. 30 you what? 4 to 1 3. And then you got 1 10. So you got about 32 million a year. So that's what I said. So I just put. I put him in that bracket.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I like that bracket a little bit more than that because you look at the body of work. Let's look at the body of work with what. In what McLaren has done. Think he deserves a little bit more than that. And I'm not. This is no disrespect to what Garrett Wilson has done in his three years. But MC McLaren and what he's meant for that team, what he's meant for that city, what he's meant for that organization, what he's meant for that team as a captain and doing all the right things, even when things were bad. Come on now.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. So you're looking at about 32,5 a year. What? What did DK get? DK got something around that. That seems to be a leisure Chase, unless you're Jefferson. That seems to be. He's the fifth highest paid by annual value, so that seems to be a CD. CD is a tick below. I think Jetta got 35 a year. CD slotted up under that. He got 34 a year. Chase pole vaulted. He did a Mondo Diplantis. He pole vaulted over everybody. It broke the world record with over 40. Basically over 40 million a year. So now I guess everybody else that comes along, you're going to be slotted somewhere between 30 and 30.

[Ryan Seacrest]

That's fair.

[Chad Johnson]

Are you okay with that?

[Ryan Seacrest]

He got to be. He got to be. I'm sure. I'm sure someone like McLaurin, knowing him and understanding him, the way he carries himself, the way he conducts himself, just in general, the type of person he is, he ain't trying to take all the goddamn bank. He's not trying to take all the goddamn bag. You want to get as much as you can of value, but don't let him disrespect you with the numbers. Don't let him disrespect you with the numbers.

[Chad Johnson]

I think sometimes don't your people get carried away? They start basing their value on what somebody else got. Maybe Washington doesn't view you like Cincinnati views Chase or like Minnesota views Jetta. And so. Okay. Oh, okay.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I'm just saying.

[Chad Johnson]

So. I can't. I can't, Ocho. I can't work. I can't work it. Let's just say for the sake of argument, I can't work at Dollar General. If. And then get mad, say, well, they pay the people over there at Walmart more. Well, I ain't working over there. I work right here. Now, unless they go make a trade and put you in a situation. So right now he behind Chase, Jetta, CD and dk. Like I say, okay, that's the fifth highest paid. So who's the next receiver? Puka. I think Puka is going to probably be due to be somewhere slotted in there. He gonna be looking at, you know, 32 to 33, 34 million. Because I think when you talk about who's the best receiver, I think for the most part people say either Jenna or Chase. Those are normally the first two names that roll off everybody's lips. Ocho. And look, we're not trying to slot nobody. But I'm just saying when you ask people, you ask dbs, they say Jetta, they say Chase, blah, so forth and so on. And that's not try to diminish anybody else because obviously CDs done what he's done. DK has had unbelievable season. We know what Tyreek is. And when Tyreek healthy and they got decent quarterback play. So we know what Tyreek is. But at the end of the day, give me a good number. Give me a good number. I can feel that. I can feel. I can feel comfortable with. I can. I don't feel disrespected. And because I. I look at the end of the. At the end of the day, Ocho, I. I like a negotiation like this. Everybody needs to feel like they've been had because let me tell you what happens. A lot of time in negotiations to build up resentment. Yeah, I would re Ocho and I. And I. And this is why how I was always done business. I would rather. I would rather take a few dollars less. Because when you look at it, Ocho, you tell me, Ocho, what can't you do with 33 million that you got to have 34? Because I guarantee you, if you. If you blow 34, you. If you blow 33, you blow for 34. I would rather you okay, hey, here it is, Shannon. This is what we're going to give you. Then you begrudgingly give me more and then it ruined. And we've seen that, Ocho. We've seen teams that begrudgingly give a player more and at the first chance they get, they upset the offset player.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yep. That's how it works. And it's almost getting to that point. I'm not sure how negotiations are going going right now when it comes to the commanders and Brother McLaurin, but I do know you is when it was time for chasing tea. When it's time for chasing T, we talk about easily top duo and Jamar Chase the best right now in the game. Obviously, that's a conversation that could be had depending on your preference and who you like. They were giving chase a hard time. So they giving chase a hard time.

[Chad Johnson]

Jeddah was the only one that didn't have a hard time.

[Ryan Seacrest]

They giving chase a hard time. What you think they doing down there in D.C. for sure, man. Please.

[Chad Johnson]

Jenna was mighty. Jenna was minding his own business. He got a phone call. Hey, yeah, man. We just gave you 35 a year. Yeah. Really?

[Ryan Seacrest]

I wouldn't even. Wasn't expecting it, huh? One Thing you. Hey, you bet you better lock them up. There are some players, when they play, it's. It's like. It's common sense. It's common sense. What are we doing?

[Chad Johnson]

It's like, you know what, Ocho? It's like, go ahead and do it earlier than late, because the earlier, you do it. Because by that second year, he looks like a bargain. That's what the Patriots are. That's what the Patriots so good at. Oh, they gave him a boatload of money two years into the deal. They're like, damn, they stole him. They stole Richard Seymour, they stole Tom Brady, they stole Rob Gronkowski, they stole Logan Mankins. They stole all.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Speaking of. I'm glad you just said that. Talk about stealing. Talk about paying players early, having a method to your madness. Let's talk about Howie Roseman and Jeffrey L. Yes. What they doing? How do you think they have all those players accumulate not only drafting smart, but paying them ahead of time on purpose.

[Chad Johnson]

Pay them time.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Brilliant, brilliant, B. Brilliant businessman.

[Chad Johnson]

It is. Because guess what? Ooh, now, we'd have bought bitcoin early. It was a little. Hey, think about it now. We could have bought it when it was $50 coin, or you would try to get it now when it's 121,000.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I got a question. Do you. You understand digital currency?

[Chad Johnson]

Okay, I don't. I don't understand digital anything.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I see a lot of tweets and.

[Chad Johnson]

Stuff about, you know, coins, and guys took their money. We saw Odell took his money and. And some of it. And in. In crypto. Trevor Lawrence took some of his signing bonus. Some of the other guys have taken money in crypto. I don't. I don't. And you can't have it. You got to write the number down. I just saw one guy had, like, $270 million in his. What do they call it, his pocketbook or whatever. Yep. And they only give you so many cracks to get it before. It's what, though? No, I don't know. I don't. I don't. I don't know anything about it, Ocho. It's kind of like. It's kind of like gambling. Like, you go to the casino and they try to get you to play these games. I said, well, you got some coins you gonna let me play with? Cause I play. I. I'll learn how to play it with your money, but I ain't learning how to play with mine. I'm not learning how to invest with my money. I'm gonna go with somebody that A that understands it a lot better than Shannon. That can help Shannon understand it. But no, I don't understand digital currency. I don't understand the computer. I can cut it on. That's about all I got for. I don't know anything about the computer. If they can't, if they can't just like, like on my phone, they got Google. I can hit espn, I can hit Google News. That's about all I got. Or let me type in something. I think, like on a computer, you got to type in like WW something, right? Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Ryan Seacrest]

You know, and you don't even have to type in the ww. You just type in whatever you're looking for, dot com, and it'll pop up on the computer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Little shortcut, little shortcut. I learned. I learned that in high school.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, no, I don't know nothing about no computer. So I stay off the computer. I got. I got a couple of them in my house. I ain't been on them. I can't. I can honestly tell you, I can't interpret the last time. I mean, even like what get on zoom Jordan come over here, set that thing up for me. And he take off and leave a lot of time. It must run and hung up.

[Ryan Seacrest]

You be stuck.

[Chad Johnson]

I called back on my phone. I was talking to him on my phone. Oh, Joe. I tried. I could get a. I said, don't worry. Hey. I say, I'm sorry. Hey, we'll try this. I say, y' all doing all this talking, y' all wasted time. We could be talking right now. So I just called back on my phone, but hopefully, like you said, congratulations to Garrett Wilson. Four years, $130 million. He earned every dime of it. Rookie of the year, had a career year last year. 101 catches, seven touchdowns. He's had a thousand yards every year he's been in the NFL. Kudos. All right. Ocho execs, coaches scouts ranked the top 10 quarterbacks entering 2025. No surprise at the top, my homeboy.

[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Chad Johnson]

2, Josh Allen number 3, Joe Burrow number 4, Lamar Jackson number 5, Jaden Daniels number 6, Matthew Stafford number 7, Justin Herbert number 8, Jerry Goff number 9, Jaylen Herz number 10, Baker Mayfield okay Oo what did the what did the execs get? Right? What did they get?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Obviously, these are the execs. These are the people that sit up top that watch the game, that understand the game, that know the game sometimes better than casual fans. Sometimes they don't. But now when it comes to 2 to 3, 2, 3, 4. 2, 3 and 4, that's interchangeable.

[Chad Johnson]

They. Boy, he took the words out.

[Ryan Seacrest]

2, 3 and 4 is interchangeable and it's based on preference. Like number one is number one. Number one is going to be who number one is for a very long time. What he's been able to do in his NFL career in such a short amount of time going down is one of the greatest. And he's still goddamn playing. But 2, 3, and 4 is interchangeable for me. You know, I'm putting Burrow. I'm putting Burrow second. I'm putting Burrow second. For me, personally. After Burrow, I'm going, Lamar, as much as I love Josh Allen. Love Josh Allen to death, I love him. I love him to death. But obviously, after, after, after Josh. I mean, you can go Jaden Daniels, you can go C.J. i'm surprised C.J. stroud is not there. Huh? I'm surprised CJ Stroud is not there.

[Chad Johnson]

Sophomore slump. Because if. If they took this list right after his rookie year, I'm not so sure he's not in the top 10.

[Ryan Seacrest]

And, and one of the things I do have a problem with is how do we have the super bowl winning quarterback the top five? How do we not have the super bowl winning quarterback not in the top five? What. What. What.

[Chad Johnson]

You kicking out? Okay, if we take. If we put Jaylen Hurst in the top five, who you taking out? The top five?

[Ryan Seacrest]

What? 1, 2, 3.

[Chad Johnson]

No, I. I would. I would have.

[Ryan Seacrest]

The. Would be five.

[Chad Johnson]

No, but. Okay, so that means you kick Jane Daniel.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, yeah. A.B. absolutely. Simply because Hurst is coming off a Super bowl winning season. I mean, that's how I would have put it. So when it comes to the execs and making that decision, I'm not sure what they're basing that off of because Jaden Daniels had a hell of a year last year going to the NFC championship. Well, hell, C.J. stroud made the playoffs his rookie year and turned that damn program. Program. Turn that damn franchise around his first year.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. People really love Justin Herbert. Yeah.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey. Hey.

[Chad Johnson]

I don't see how just. I get it. I understand. He. He's. His arm talent OO is undeniable. But how's Jalen? Hurts. Take a step back. When he has the. He still has the best offensive line in football. He has the best running back in football. He has a receiving core. His. He might have a. A top. Well, he might have. He does have a top three receiving duo. So how is he not like, rank. I. I'm not so sure that I have. I wouldn't put. I would put. I get it. If you just looking at somebody say, okay, we gonna just go. Have y' all go out there, throw the ball. Oh, oh, he gonna wild. He can throw the ball probably 60 yards on a dime. He can throw. He can throw from one hash all the way up to the other. He can throw. He can make all the throws. We're not denying that. Yeah, but are we sure? Are we sure?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, he, he's, he's like that. He, I mean, I'm, I'm just, I'm just saying he's, he, he's like that. Based on watching him. He, he was. Hey, when ke, When Mike Williams and Keenan Allen were there, Herbert was a quarterback, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, man.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, yeah. We not, oh, we not gonna deny that he can't spend the ball because he can, man. He can, he can flat out. He can flat out throw it. And Miami situation might be a lot different had they had him at. And he's throwing the waddle in Tyreek and John New Smith and some of the other guys that he, that had.

[Ryan Seacrest]

The opportunity, but here we are.

[Chad Johnson]

I, I, I agree with you, Ocho. The thing that, what, what Josh does is that Josh has, He throws like 30 touchdowns and he might rush for 10, 15 touchdowns. That's what, that's what you're like, bro. How do we defend this guy? Because if it's 31, he normally going to get it. Except that, that what, that fourth down when they went more than they, they changed the rule. You notice Buffalo, y' all don't got a lot of rules change. Y' all got the overtime rule changed because my homeboy got the ball and y' all didn't get it. And so they say, now we want everybody to touch the ball.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Everybody get the opportunity. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, and now you got, now they got instruments that's going to measure the first down when they've been having the yard marker for a hundred years since they've had football. They had the yard marker now.

[Ryan Seacrest]

But this is a good thing. When you bring technology, technology into the game, technology is going to get it right every time. Because human error is inevitable. Human error is inevitable. When it comes to technology. They're not going to get it wrong. A lot of people that love the game of soccer, they don't like var.

[Chad Johnson]

Technology. Don't get it wrong. How many times we don't see the man. That man fumbled the ball and they said he didn't fumble or that wasn't no fumble. They said he did fumble or that was an incomplete pass. And it wasn't. And it wasn't an incomplete pass, right? Cause they still gotta call, they still gotta call the. Oh, yeah, New Jersey.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Oh, yeah. Most definitely. Hey, Speaking of quarterbacks, now that we. On that. On that situation, a chat, and I'm sure the chat will probably agree with me as well. One player where we're gonna have to. Have to have a conversation about him because he was the number one pick. He has all the tools, and now he had the talent around him to where he should look and be in the same conversation with the upper echelon of quarterbacks, especially those top 10 that were just named. And that's my young bull down there in Jacksonville. There are no more excuses. There are.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, no. Hell no.

[Ryan Seacrest]

You got Travis Atn, you got Travis Hunter. Now you got Brian Tom Jr. I'm not sure who they. Who they have in the slot, but this is the year. This is the year. You.

[Chad Johnson]

You got the little potential.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Come on now. Come on, sunshine.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not never ojo. And I think they got a running back. I don't know the running back name. Well, they. He kind of had ATN on the back burner.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Oh, oh, oh. I can't. I can't remember the name right now.

[Chad Johnson]

Let me see if I can find him right quick.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, man. God damn, man. I mean. Oh, well, listen, I'm.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm Tank Big. Oh, yeah.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey. But hey.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, buddy.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, he was.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yes, he was toting that thing, so.

[Chad Johnson]

It'S gonna be interesting. You're right, Ocho. The question is, can they protect. How good is the defense going to be? Because look, that division. In that division, you got Tennessee. Tennessee's going with a Rookie. All right. C.J. stroud. We love what they, what they do in. In Houston. Indy. Indy is a kind of unknown. They went with it seems like they're going to be. They leaning towards Daniel Jones. That's what it looks like to me. Oh, now you can. Whatever. I don't think you bring a guy, give a guy 14 million for him to be a backup.

[Ryan Seacrest]

That's. You know what? That's. I can't say what I want to say because those conversations that I had were in just for me not to be repeating it on here. But what you just said is, Is what it's looking like. I mean, I'm gonna say. I'm just. I'm just gonna tell you like that.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ryan Seacrest]

It's unfortunate. It's unfortunate. And this is coming from in there. Reliable source. Yeah, I'm not Adam Shafter, but I'm. I'm. Let me take my glass off so, you know, I ain't bullshitting. Reliable source. Come on, man. Yeah, come on.

[Chad Johnson]

Man, Ojo. How they gonna pay? How they gonna pay? How they gonna come in and pay somebody that works up under you more than they pay you if they're not bringing that person in there to take your job?

[Ryan Seacrest]

You know what they doing? They knew what they was doing because they were.

[Chad Johnson]

I knew what they doing when they signed them and they. 10, 14 million.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Absolutely. But again, is he the answer? Is. Is he the answer? Because he wasn't the answer in New York? Just because you come over here, okay.

[Chad Johnson]

Tell me the question you asking, and then I tell you if he'd answer or not. You talk about the answer. I need a question.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I know one thing. They got goddamn Jonathan Taylor back there, Alec Pierce, Michael Pittman Jr. And God damn, it's one more. I can't remember the name. Yeah, they got a nice little squad now. They got a nice little squad. And the deep. The defense ain't too shabby now. The defense ain't too shabby. Hey, Zaire Franklin, but might be one of the best in the NFL. I'm not saying he's not.

[Chad Johnson]

Fred Warner, they got Hunt. They got a nice little D line.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah. Hey, who. Who's the DN for the dn. That's real good. In. In. In Indy, it's a D. And he make. He make a whole lot of noise, man. No, I think he went 99. I could be wrong.

[Chad Johnson]

That's one. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Ocho, they got Alec Pierce, they got Josh downs, they got Michael Pittman. Okay.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Alex Pierce is the one that went number 10, huh? Hey, boy. Hey, that. Hey, hey, Alex Pierce. Boy, you could go, boy. You hear me?

[Chad Johnson]

You can.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Boy, you can go.

[Chad Johnson]

He be cooking for every time.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Every. Listen, every time I turn around, goddamn Alex Pierce making a play deep.

[Chad Johnson]

He behind somebody. O Joe.

[Ryan Seacrest]

He be cutting.

[Chad Johnson]

Damn, Ocho. After Herbert came in at number seven, Jeremy Fowler spoke to an AFC executive who praised his steady play, but made an interesting observation of about how he's perceived around the league. He's always been a top 5, top 8 QB, accurate to all levels, athletic, sound decision maker, the exec said. It's almost like he's underrated. Now, in my opinion, he's taken for granted, huh? All I know is that man had a 27 point lead and he lost that underrated quarterback that we talking about. Yeah.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, you know what? Games like that, if you got a 27 point lead, you know what the number one thing you need to have with a 27 point lead? Being a game manager. The one word that quarterbacks don't want to be called that. They, that they think is so bad. You manage the game, you be a game manager. I'm not saying it's simple, it's easier said than done. But your decision making, the way you process information with a 27 point lead, it becomes different. You don't put the ball in harm's way. You don't want three and outs. You wanna, you want long drives. Kill the goddamn clock.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. The greatest game manager or. And the greatest quarterback. And the greatest quarterback, they're the same player. Tom Brady. Look at Tom Brady in that, in that, that super bowl against the Rams. He realized that it was going to be a man. Look here, 10, 10, 13 points might win this game. Then he said, if you go, you go look at Carolina. He said, man, we'll shoot out. We got, hey, we got to score. How many times you see Tom Brady blow up 21 point lead, a 14 point lead. Because he understood. The one thing that I admire most about him, and there's a lot of things that you can admire about Tom Brady, is that he understood in the first drive or two what type of game he was going to be and what type of game he was going to need to play. Bro, I'm gonna need to throw for 350, 400 in this game. Nah, 145 and no turnover is gonna win it for us. Sometimes you get so caught up in who we are. I'm great, I'm great. Let me show everybody I'm great in all situations when that's not needed. Tom understood that even as like in the beginning, he was purely a game manager. They played to their defense. But even after he became Tom Brady, Tom Brady, that TB12, the historically and transcendent figure that he w that he is, he still understood his role. Man, I can't turn the ball.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Simple, simple.

[Chad Johnson]

And a lot of quarterbacks don't understand that because they get to a certain level, they feel, excuse me, I got to play at this level. No, sometimes it doesn't require you to throw 300, sometimes 151 touchdowns and no turnovers. Or you could throw for 350, but you have three picks and lose the game. The choice is yours.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Take what they give you.

[Chad Johnson]

And Tom has done a great job of that. There have been few and far between games in which you like what? Hey yeah, Tom, you know them turnover there, they hurt us. He under, he understood. And sometimes oo you have to, you, he fell behind and you have to like throw, throw, throw. Well, hell if I Know there ain't no threat of no running game. Hey. But it was hard because he knew where he was weak. He knew where you were weak.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

He stayed to his strength and played to your weakness.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. I don't think. Me personally, I don't think Justin Herbert is underrated. I think he's rated about where he's supposed to be. I think he's a very good quarterback. I think he has some great talent around him, but I. I don't know. Underrated. Where. Where you. I mean, where you. Where. Who you putting him in front of? Yeah. Five to eight. Okay. You and I know people say, well, you gave. If you gave him that situation, what Jalen hurts had.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, honestly, I think you.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay. I got. You got to be. You got to. With the situation that you got.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, that's it. You can't. All the comparison, the hypotheticals, it makes no sense. It makes no sense at all. I think you put any of the. You put. You put any of the top quarterbacks in Jalen Hurst situation, I think they win in the Super Bowl.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Super bowl, you know.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. I mean, look at offensive line. He got. If you said, okay, give the 10 top offensive linemen, he probably got four of them.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Four. Literally. No question. No questions.

[Chad Johnson]

Are definitely going to be in the top 10. You can make a case that Lane Johnson is the best.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Wait, Lane Johnson is the best right tackle.

[Chad Johnson]

No, I'm saying. When you say. I'm just. Okay, tackle. Now, when Big Trent. When Big Trent held the best left.

[Ryan Seacrest]

He'S the best left. We can't. We can't forget there. Dion Dawkin. Dion Dawkin played left tackle or right or left guard.

[Chad Johnson]

He played left. He played left. But you look at Jordan Mylata, you look at Landon Dixon, you look at the center, I think it's Jurgens. They lose an all Pro, a Pro bowl center guy that's going to the hall of Fame, and they get another one coming there and take right off. And then we talk about Lane. Lane is what he. Lane is lame.

[Ryan Seacrest]

He nice.

[Chad Johnson]

He got the right name. His mom named. When they named it, they named the right thing. Cause you run to that side, it's a damn Lane best. Believe it. So he. He got. He got the right name. But me personally evaluating, looking at all these quarterbacks and see where they're ranked, I don't think. I don't. I don't think Justin Herbert is. I'm not taking Justin Herbert over any of these guys that's in front of it. I'M not, I'm not taking them on Matthew Stafford. I'm not taking them on Jayla Hurts.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, listen, I don't understand, I don't understand what the exec did or what they were looking at or how they made the assessment where they had Jaden Daniels at fifth and the super bowl winning quarterback at eighth or seventh or whatever it might have been. I don't have it. Have it.

[Chad Johnson]

He at ninth.

[Ryan Seacrest]

At ninth at that. I don't, I don't understand that. Are they, are they using the talent around him against him and saying that putting jam Daniels at 5 because he did more with less, not more because obviously he didn't win that, that, that Pacific game. But, but still. But I don't know. Teach his own.

[Chad Johnson]

But even the super bowl that he lost, he played extremely well. He had those two calls they turnovers but if you look at it, he played extremely well and you know you can't turn the ball over the same way like that. And he had the one turnover but they overcame it and they forced Mahomes and that team into more turnovers and they won the game going away. The game wasn't even close. It wasn't even interesting after the first couple of drives. Yeah, but I don't me personally, I don't think Justin Herbert. It'll be interesting to see what the chat thinks but I don't think Justin Herbert is under. Is underrated. Speaking of hurts, Nick Sirianni went off on critics who say Jalen Hurst was carried to the super bowl by his team. Yeah, that's BS Anytime I hear that, it's cool. It's like it's a nice debate thing that people like to have and I get it. There are a lot of hours on TV show a radio station that have to feel it to be able to debate. I understand that but we're talking about the ultimate team game. There it is. And he does whatever he needs to do in order to win each and every game. Ojo is the criticism of Jalen Hurts, is it?

[Ryan Seacrest]

You know what I don't think because the game is not pretty. He's not throwing for three, 400 yards every game. You know they don't drop back and throw the ball a hundred million times. You know, they don't have to. I like the quarterback that Jalen Hurts plays. I like the way he played the game. The game of football is not complicated Hunk. It's really simple. I'm going to take what you give me. I'm not going to make any mistakes. I have Saquon Barkley. I'm going to hand it off to him. He's going to make things happen. And when it's time to play the ball, when it's time to throw the ball and we have plays for A.J. brown, we have played for Devonte Smith some games. A.J. brown's gonna be mad. Why? Because they w. But Devonte Smith is going off. Then you will have some games. Well, hell, AJ Brown gonna go crazy and devonte Smith is not gonna get the ball. That's the way the game is played. It's simple. At times we tend to complicate it because it doesn't look pretty and it's not aesthetically pleasing the way a Josh Allen does or the way Joe burrow throw for 400 yards. That's not the game. That's not the game that they play over there in Philly, which is probably why they're going to be back again in the Super Bowl.

[Chad Johnson]

Let me tell Ocho. Look, it's. If I like y' all make a case for you. They held it against Terry Bradshaw. Nobody's ever said Terry Bradshaw was the best because why? He had the best offensive line. He had a Hall of Fame center, He had two hall of Fame receivers. He had a Hall of Fame running back and he had five, six hall of Famers on the defensive side of football. So he never. And he called his own play. So he never got the credit. They didn't hold it against Joe. Joe just happened. I can make a case. When you. When people talk about the best players to ever play the. There are three names that always come up. Tom Brady, Jerry Rice and Lawrence Taylor Sprinkle, Jim Brown in there. They never held that. They never held that against Joe. Now I think a lot of that had to do because Joe won two Super Bowls before Jerry ever set foot in San Francisco. They said. But so with Joe, with Joe before he got there. But they. Yeah, I get it. He had offensive player of the year in Saquan, the best running back in football. Okay. He got the best offensive lineman football. He has two quality. He has two very good receivers. A.J. brown is a three time Pro Bowler. Devontae Smith is a probably the best number two receiver if that's what you know. 1A, 1.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah. 1A.

[Chad Johnson]

1B.

[Ryan Seacrest]

1A, 1B. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Peyton. They didn't hold that against Peyton. Hall of Fame. Marvin Harrison, hall of Fame Marshall fault. Reggie Wayne, Jeff Saturday gonna go to the hall of Fame. Dallas Clark was a Pro bowl tight end.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Brandon Stoke. Brandon Stoker quality as well Yeah, a.

[Chad Johnson]

Lot of times the people where people gave the nod to Peyton, I mean to Tom, is because Tom didn't have any of that until he got Randy. You look at Wes Welker, undrafted free agent. Julian Edelman was a seventh round quarterback out of Kent State. You look at Dan Amendola, I think he was a undrafted player.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Troy Brown.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Although all those guys. What Was the number? 80? Troy Brown.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, Troy.

[Chad Johnson]

So it was like he didn't have these big name receivers that you're like, oh, I got to have him. I would take him. He's choosing up squads. You're like, oh, okay, I take him. Look, I can't punish the man. They did a great job of. Look, they had a quarterback in the second round. How we had the forethought, the foresight to see that. Yeah, we gave this guy a lot of money and you hear a lot of things coming out of it coming out of Philly and you heard some of the stuff that's coming out and I don't know what to believe, but allegedly, you, you know, you know, Carson Wentz was not the easiest to deal with and you, you know, you couldn't tell him anything. And Jalen snuck right on in there. So you say, you know what, we got this. I like this guy. Let's build around him. Now that offensive line was already intact. Lane was already there. They had Jason Kelsey already there. Dixon, because Dixon got there the same time. Dixon was the first round pick and Jaylen Hurst was the second round pick. So they just f filled in the spots. They got Devonte and next thing you know, they tra. Make a trade for A.J. brown. I don't know what the hell Tennessee was thinking to get rid of A.J. brown. And it's like, well, we got the. A younger A.J. brown and trailing Burks. What.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Listen, some. Some say, listen, he.

[Chad Johnson]

I don't know who idea that was. In 15 regular season games last season, Hurt threw for 2903 yards, 18 touchdowns, five interception. His passing touchdowns ranked 20th, his passing yards ranked 26th. Oh, that's what. They're not a throwing.

[Ryan Seacrest]

That's why I said they're really simple football. They don't complicate anything. We're going to take what you give us.

[Chad Johnson]

So I did. So what we're going to do is that we're going to prove to you that our quarterback can throw the football. So we're going to mess up this dynamic that we got just to prove something to you.

[Ryan Seacrest]

The object. The object damn game is win. And that's exactly what we did. They won.

[Chad Johnson]

If we got to run it 50 times, we're gonna run it 50 times. If we got to throw it 50 times, we'll throw it 50 times. We're gonna do whatever it takes for us to win the game. That's the objective. Hello. You play to win the game. No. Is, is he going to be with those, with those numbers in that system? It's not predicated for him to be an mvp. It's not. He's not going to throw for enough touchdowns. He's not going to have enough passing yards. Not when guys are tipping 5,000 every year. Guys are in the mid four, in the high 30s or the mid 40s. As far as passing touchdowns, it's not conducive. What it is conducive for is him to be playing a lot on the last the last Sunday or the second Sunday in February. Y that is conducive for that. And so you have to wait. What are you looking for? What are you trying to accomplish here?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, they win them. They win them ugly. Huh? They win them ugly. Like I say, all the time. The way they do win is not aesthetically pleasing to others, which is why they don't rape.

[Chad Johnson]

Why?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Why they rank him how they rank him.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes. Yeah. I mean, if you get into a passing contest, could he throw the ball like some of the guys in the no. That's not what he does. Not what he does. He win.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

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