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Nightcap Hour 1: Texans Defense DESTROYS the Bills + CeeDee Lamb CONFESSES to BREAKING CURFEW + George Pickens CONTRACT LOOMING + AJ Brown SNEAK DISSES Saquon?!
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Shannon Sharpe
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I turned off news altogether.
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Shannon Sharpe
I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything.
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It's the rage bait.
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It feels like it's trying to divide people.
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Shannon Sharpe
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Shannon Sharpe
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yes.
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Shannon Sharpe
And they did an outstanding job considering the offensive player of the week, Josh Allen, three touchdown. There's only two men that's ever had three touchdowns rushing, Ocho. Three touchdown passes in a game. Yeah. Otto Graham did it in 54 in the championship game. Josh Allen has done it twice. They made Josh Allen seem normal.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
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Shannon Sharpe
They made him seem normal. And Josh Allen is anything but normal. And so I don't think that's the way Josh played tonight. That was all because of that Texas defense. I ain't with you no more. Now, I told you Josh Allen was supposed to have 255 yards. That's all I needed. Look what he got.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
He had 253.
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Shannon Sharpe
That means he was under. I said he was going over. Before you go, Ocho. Here's the Texans defense, number one in total defense, first in points allowed, third in defense, third and third down percentage, third in pass defense, third in rush defense, fifth and takeaways take off.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, listen, around the board. The Texas defense, around the board on all three levels. The front, second level. And that back end is phenomenal. For one. I know what will Anderson Jr did tonight. I know how he looked tonight. But I want to give Kaylin Bullock some love, right? I want to give Kaylin Bullock some love. Two interceptions, force fumble. He made Shakira fumble in the third.
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Shannon Sharpe
Wasn't that in the third quarter?
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, I think. I think it might. It might have been the third. Kayla Bullock was all over the place, huh?
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Shannon Sharpe
He was.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
He was all over the place. Will Anderson, they sacked Josh Allen eight times, huh? It almost looked like what we consider Superman at most times with his ability to extend plays and, and play off script. It looked like he didn't even belong out there. They kept you. They had him uncomfortable all game.
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Shannon Sharpe
He missed kryptonite, boys.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, basically, that's exactly what it was. And for me, for the Texans, right? If we can get that offensive. And goddamn brother Mills. David mills was only 16 for 30 with two TDs. He only had 153 yards.
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Shannon Sharpe
He left some. He left some plays out there. Ocho, I know you saw it. I know you saw what I saw. I was tweeting, I was like, bro, how many throws, how many TD throws he gonna leave out there? Oh, yeah. Got the guy open. You hit the guy in the back of the head. You got the guy I'm talking about, that's the defender you hitting in the back of.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Under, throwing the ball.
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He under.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
But listen, I. I'm not sure when C.J. shroud comes back, but when he does, when he does, if that offense, if C.J. stroud can elevate that offense and meet that defense just halfway, we don't need you to be top five in the NFL. Just meet him halfway. It can be scary. It can be scary, especially if they can get. If they can get. Get in that doorway and get in them playoffs. But that's a defense that don't nobody want to see at all.
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Shannon Sharpe
The defense is. And that's the question offensively, because this defense is as good as advertised. The. Miko Ryan does a great job of setting the people. I forget the. The defensive coordinator was calling the players tonight, but Miko turned a play calling over to him. Yeah, but when you look at Danielle Hunter had two sacks. Will Anderson Jr. Had two and a half sacks to a Lolo had a sack. Tim Settle Jr. Had a sack. Mario Edwards had half a sack. Barnett had a sack. I mean, hell, the only people that didn't get a sack was me and you and I'm in New York and you in Miami. Hell, if we'd have been in Houston, we might have. Could have got a half a sack together.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
And I got, I got one more thing. One more thing. For those of you that in the chat, I don't understand why officer coordinators do this. Right. You understand how well your defense is playing?
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I think in the fourth quarter, towards the end of the third quarter, go ahead and into the, into the fourth quarter, you're getting, you're getting all these turnovers, right? You're getting all these opportunities for the Texans offensively. What is with the goddamn conservative play calling? Just because you have the lead, why not be aggressive? Put your goddamn foot to the goddamn pedal and put the game away. Put the game away so it doesn't come to a nail batter, a nail biter at the end where they got. They run a goddamn pitching ladder on 4th and 27 and get it and have opportunity to win the goddamn game. It shouldn't even have to come to that. If with them last three offensive series, when you had the ball, you run the ball first down, you run the ball second down, and then it's. It's third and nine and third and eight, and it's, it's damn near hard to get.
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It's.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
It's hard to get because you don't.
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Shannon Sharpe
Want to put that area is. Yeah.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
And the. You don't want to put the ball in harm's way. So you don't, you don't call plays that can put the ball in harm's way on third down. But for the brother David Mills, you know, and if, maybe if C.J. stroud was in there, maybe the play calling is a little bit more aggressive because you trust him a little bit more with the football in his hands. But like, come on, that's. The defense is playing balls out. Put the game away when you got the opportunity. Six, seven minutes in the game, four minutes in the game, you got the ball. You run the damn ball three times in a row.
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Shannon Sharpe
Like, come on, man, the defense, no, they know that you don't trust Davis Mills. So they know there's a better than 80 chance that you're going to run it. So what do we call a run? Blitz on first down, you stop you for no yard, no game. You see, it's plays like that, Ocho, and you had an opportunity. Kirk dropped one in the end zone. He was worried about his feet and forgot to catch the ball.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Cause Mills put it right in his hands. Ocho, he's trying to drag his feet. Now if you go look at the adjustment Higgins had, Higgins had to play on the sideline.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
And he.
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Shannon Sharpe
Bro, you got to. Oo, we gonna say, Paul, you gotta go limp. Oh, you gotta go limp on the sideline. Oho, that's a catch. Oh, you can't put it any better. You can't take that full extended last step. He get his right foot down and he tries to take a full left. No, you got to go live there.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
That's a.
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Shannon Sharpe
That is really the. Even though he had an opportunity, it's not like. And then he came late in the fourth quarter, he had a sideline catch and. And he toe touched it. In that situation, you got to go limp on the sideline, bro, you can't take that full extended step.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You can't. You got to be self aware. It's all about being self aware and understanding where you are on the field, knowing how much room you have, you know, and one. One of the things that you do once you come out that break, it's all about knowing where you are, knowing when to allow the bodies to go limp to make sure you can ensure the catch and make sure you get your feet in.
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Shannon Sharpe
Because first of all, you're probably at a situation like that. You what probably two, three yards outside the number. So you're gonna speed, cut it, you're gonna hit 10, roll to 12. So you already know that. Yeah, there are some plays. The center for the Houston Texans, they drop Joe, they drop Joy Bosa. They bring the linebacker from depth. They got three guys blocking two. He lets 50 run right in the gap block. If that's you, it's a perfect. It's. You can't ask for anything better.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Ojo right there for you.
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Shannon Sharpe
They drop one guy, shows go away. And now you got three guys. You got the center, guard and tackle. Yeah, and the center and the guard, they blocking two guys, one guy and 50 come right up the gut, bro, that's perfect center. All you gotta do is just push the guy onto the guard and you're like, come on, 50, I'm gonna hit you dead your damn mouth. Yeah, that's all you got. And stuff like that. On the, on the. The first play they came out with, came out with a kind of like a little blitz. And Shakira, okay, Shakira comes in motion, he comes in short motion and then he bellies back. Okay, you bring pressure guy, you from depth. That is a punt returner. That is a kick returner. What do you think the likelihood from 15, 20 yards deep you are going to be able to tackle Shakur in a one on one situation in the.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Open field, it's not happening. In the open field, it's not happening. I don't care if you come up under control. I don't care if you come up and come to balance. He's going to make you miss every time.
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Shannon Sharpe
I got a better chance of catching the win, and that's not happening. It's things like that on. On the, on the hook and ladder. I'm like, oh, my goodness. Hey, really for y' all not see the guys crossing? Y' all don't see it. So y' all don't. So, Ocho, I'm in front, but it's kind of like, I'm coming. I'll be driving my car. Oh, I see that guy. I see the guy about that pedestrian about to get in the crosswalk.
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Commercial Narrator
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh, I see this guy. But.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
But you know what? On that play on the fourth and 27, when Palmer catches that ball as aggressive, you know how aggressive that goddamn defense is. So they locked in. They took a be straight for Palmer and didn't even see the goddamn ladder. Didn't even see the hook and ladder come around with Shakira, which is why they was able to get 4th and 27. Ain't no goddamn plays.
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Shannon Sharpe
No, sir.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
27.
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Shannon Sharpe
I played for that and Ocho. And here's the thing is that the guy was tra. The guy that was trailing Palmer, he. I mean, like, bro, you ain't fitting to catch him. Everybody on that side got a rally to the football. Oh, yeah, but they were.
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Turned off news altogether.
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Shannon Sharpe
I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything.
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Commercial Narrator
It's the rage bait.
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It feels like it's trying to divide people.
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Shannon Sharpe
We got clear facts. We maybe we could calm down a little. NBC News brings you clear reporting. Let's meet at the Facts. Let's move forward from there. NBC News reporting for America.
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Shannon Sharpe
April and chat. You've heard me say it many times. The mark of any great unit. Can you get done what you need to get done when you got to.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yes.
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Shannon Sharpe
At the end of the day, their best unit. I want my best unit on the field. Ocho, if I'm down three points, if I'm down and I need to get a touchdown, I want my best unit on the field. Yeah, if I need to get a stop, I want my best unit on the field. So I would have trusted the defense to stop Josh Allen more than I would have trusted the Houston Texas offense to go get a game winning field goal or something of that nature. So that's the unit that I want on the field. That is it. That's what I want. And that's what they got. And Miko probably said, hey, we gonna win or lose this game. You, I mean, it had been heartbreaking as well as that defense had played. If they had lost to lose that game in the final seconds, now we would look back, Ocho, we look back like, well, damn, the offense did have numerous opportunities and they would have. But when you got those, you got those kryptonite boys. You got them headhunters like they got out there. Yeah, bro, I couldn't ask for a better situation. I want Hunter. I want Anderson. I won't settle. I want rankings. I want Edward Jr. I won't, I won't. Stingley. I want last. I want you guys on the field.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You put the game. Come on.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh, come on. Oh. I don't want that. I want y' all ass on the field.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, yeah. I, I mean, I, I, I, I like it. Obviously, me being a, being an offensive.
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Shannon Sharpe
Guy, I prefer you gonna want, you, want you Carson and TJ on the field.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hold on. But, but this, this thing, I don't even want it to come down to the last few seconds. I want to put the game early when I had the ball with four, five minutes to go.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, you could have made it 27. You could have made it 27. 20. Yeah, you could have made It 27.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
16. So, so regardless of what they did, there was no, there was no way to come back regardless of what they did. So now we could, we could relax, we can relax on the sideline and Just play defense. We ain't got nothing to worry about, but here we go. Nail biter at the end. Now we have to rely on their defense. But again, as good as they are, there's a reason why they Number one. Number one. So I. I really enjoyed that. Well, I read that was one good game.
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Shannon Sharpe
I.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
If I'm not mistaken, some of the Thursday night games have been doozies, huh?
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Shannon Sharpe
They've been some snooze fest. Yeah.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
But not tonight.
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Shannon Sharpe
Interesting game.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, this was a very good game.
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Shannon Sharpe
Ocho, Bill's old line. They kicked your ass. They kicked your ass. Now, I think the right tackle end up getting benched. Now, I didn't see him get hurt, but I know they had a. They had a. They had a right tackle adjustment.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
And Dawkins, who's their best offensive lineman.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yes.
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Shannon Sharpe
He got work tonight. It happens. It happens to the best of us. We've all had moments in games where we. Hey, I was this, and Ocho, you've been that, and somebody get the best of us as a unit.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Offensive line pass pro.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
They got work. They got work.
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Shannon Sharpe
They get a number on y'. All. They got overtime on y' all ass.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, they.
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Shannon Sharpe
They whipped y' all ass like y' all owed them money. I'm not sure if somebody made. Hey, I don't know what went on, but when you do somebody like that, you whipping them like they owe you money. They owe you money.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Absolutely. Absolutely not.
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Shannon Sharpe
The red dude. Nah, he owe me money. I'm gonna whip his ass. And, boy, they gave him work.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Will Anderson Jr. I will say this. There was a third and 13. I think a third and 12, 13, 13 situation. You got to relay to your defensive tackle. If you go inside, you got to tell him to loop. You both can't get inside because you both went inside. And guess what happened? You went outside the back door open.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Down the back door open.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, you cannot do that. You got to re. You got to relay that. I know you're quick, and I know like, oh, I got. I got his ass set up. I don't. Been beating him around the edge. You kind of been beating them all. You beat him around the edge one time, you want. Next time, you spin him and you spin inside.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
So you was having your way with it, But I'm just saying for future reference, you got to be careful at that. You got to communicate with your dt. Hey, bro, check this out. Hey, I'm across his face. You bubble outside. Yeah, I see.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You know what? They got to communicate they got to communicate. Matter of fact, that's a stunt, huh? And if you call it a stunt, it has to be called in the huddle. They can't just make that up, you know?
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Shannon Sharpe
Make it up? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm gonna make. We can make it up, cuz I.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I, I think so.
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Shannon Sharpe
If I'm deo, Ryan, I trust, I trust Will Anderson.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Okay, okay, okay, Okay.
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Shannon Sharpe
I trust him enough that I'm gonna give him the leeway. I'm gonna give him the latitud. Convey that with the dt. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, hey, bro, check this out. We're gonna run E.T.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
And down tackle around.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, hey, listen. When they can go on their own script like that, on their own page, off script, based on what's called, and they can communicate that and then make the play.
- [24:35]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes. Hey, now we, now we got, now we got. Now we got him boxed in. Because, look, I want you to go up the field because I'm going inside and, and if you see you up the field, he's going to dive inside. That'll give me enough opportunity that I can get him.
- [24:48]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Right? And if he come out the back door, you'll be right there waiting on you. You.
- [24:51]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, you right there. That, that, that's, that's, that's the only, that was the only thing defensively that I will say, because I thought that, I thought they played a perfect game tonight.
- [25:01]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yes, absolutely.
- [25:02]
Shannon Sharpe
Look, I, Like I said, you know, we can, we can nitpick the guy playing from depth, because when Shakur going that short motion, if you bring pressure, he, he bubbles out the backside. You got him one on one. He is a punt returner.
- [25:14]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
- [25:15]
Shannon Sharpe
The, the number one job as a punt returner is to make the first guy miss.
- [25:20]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
- [25:20]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, the first guy, you make him miss.
- [25:23]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Now you don't even count.
- [25:26]
Shannon Sharpe
He's looking at you like the punter. Because they said, we got everybody else. We got everybody else blocked. What you got to do to the punter? Make him miss.
- [25:33]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Make him miss.
- [25:34]
Shannon Sharpe
So that's how he's looking at you with all that space.
- [25:37]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah. You're not, you're not tackling nobody. It's not happening. They too fast. They too quick. As a matter of fact, if the punt returner, whoever it is, like someone like Shakur. Shakur is not a burner.
- [25:46]
Shannon Sharpe
No, no, no, no, no.
- [25:47]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
But he, Listen, he's agile. His lateral movement is phenomenal. And it don't matter who you are, he's making the first man miss.
- [25:54]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes. Yes. So you just got. You just got to understand that. Ojo. You gotta understand, if I got this man, man to man, and they bring pressure, I. I've got to close the distance. Yeah. It's the same thing. Like, if a blitzer. If a blitzer is coming from depth, what I got to do is that I got to close the distance. Because if I let him come with a head of steam, I don't give a damn how good a blocker I am, he gonna sit me in the quarterback lap. I give prime example. Look at Nicole Dean. What? David Montgomery is a really good blocker.
- [26:23]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yes.
- [26:24]
Shannon Sharpe
But he let Dean get a head start.
- [26:26]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
- [26:26]
Shannon Sharpe
He bow. Boom, sacked the quarterback.
- [26:30]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
- [26:31]
Shannon Sharpe
So that's the thing. Number one rule. And I. I'm Chad. I'm trying to explain to you because I used to have to block from the backfield.
- [26:37]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
- [26:37]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, Number one rules. Say, hey, Sharpie, you got to close the distance. Yeah. So guess what? You go, I'm gonna meet your ass in the A gap and in the funny. I'm not gonna let you get no head of Steve Ocho. I'm closing that distance. Hey, I'm not gonna let you get no running start. If I'm flat footed, Ocho, I'll let you get a run and start. How the hell am I supposed to stop that? That man. 230. 240. He got a running start. You can't just say, for the sake of argument, the running back. 210, 215. So 240 with a running start. A 210, 215. Running back, flat footed. He gonna sit you on your ass.
- [27:09]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Listen.
- [27:09]
Shannon Sharpe
Every time.
- [27:10]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yep. I don't care what the laws of physics say. I don't care how low you get. You gonna lose that battle every single time. As a db. As a db. And you see Shakur bubble before he get that ball. Not only do you got to close the distance, you got to close it aggressively. And you got to shoot right away. You gotta close it for the legs right away.
- [27:34]
Shannon Sharpe
Inside out.
- [27:35]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yes.
- [27:37]
Shannon Sharpe
Because the thing. And, and, and, and. And it's gonna be hard because the thing is, Ocho, is that you coming down. I mean, how far he was. He's coming down with all that space because ain't nobody over there but him. Oh, Lord, please don't let him go. Damn, he threw this ball. Oh, Lord, Lord. Come on. Hey, hey, hey.
- [27:56]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Listen. You know, it's funny. If you. If you haven't closed the distance before he get that ball in his hands, asked out, nothing you can do.
- [28:03]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You done? Hey, you like. Hey, you like Grandma Thanksgiving dinner? She start cooking that thing Wednesday early. So by 3 o'. Clock. Hey, by 3 o', clock, we eat at 3 o', clock, you know, because that's when all my uncles and aunts would go come over. Oh, that thing gonna be done. That thing falling off the bone, too. But the Texas defense, that. That was. That was. Might have been as a impressive. And we seen, you know, we've seen some. The Broncos Bronco get nine sacks and stuff like that. But against that guy.
- [28:34]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
- [28:34]
Shannon Sharpe
After what he's just done and who he is, right. To sack him eight times, to pressure him, as many times he did coming off the game that he came off of. Yeah, Ocho, we're not gonna touch on it. But Keon Coleman, they could have used him. You got your work cut out getting back on the field.
- [28:55]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Now I got something. I got some for Keto. Yeah, I don't really think he got his work caught up for him. Because if you think about it, tonight's game, because the goddamn defense was so good, what did the Bills have to do all night? They had to go down the field methodically.
- [29:14]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [29:14]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
They had to go little by little. Chunk. There were no big chunk plays. Now, what is Keon. What is Keon Coleman really good at giving you opportunities to have those 50, 50 balls.
- [29:26]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, that's it.
- [29:26]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Sometimes. Sometimes when it's him out there in the 50, 50 balls, they turn to 80, 20, they turn to 90, 10. So his ability to give you chunk plays.
- [29:36]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
- [29:36]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
And then get you 40, 50 yards, they could have used that tonight.
- [29:40]
Shannon Sharpe
Let me ask you a question. Who you think he beating, Stingley or Lassiter?
- [29:45]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I mean, listen, you got. Hey, Stingley and Lasseter, you know who has the height advantage? Keon Coleman, six fold. He's out jumping both of them.
- [29:54]
Shannon Sharpe
But you see, the thing is, his problem is, is that if it's not in the red zone and I can't use my athletic ability to get over him. Cause, see, his problem is getting off press. Yeah, it's hard, Ocho. It's hard to jump when somebody got. They got knees in your chest, get their hands on.
- [30:08]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right. Listen, hey, Lasseter is the real deal, too. What? I know we always. We always hype up Stingley, you know, and what he get, man, especially in Bumble Run, but they got damn last. Yeah, ain't no Stop.
- [30:21]
Shannon Sharpe
Gabe. Davis was just close.
- [30:23]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
- [30:24]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah. Hey, he was this close.
- [30:29]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
- [30:30]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, he was this close. Because we know Josh, he loves throwing the game. Davis, now, it's not an accident. I mean, sometimes it's just right. You know, he got. He got paid. He went to Jacksonville. He was there a year.
- [30:44]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
- [30:44]
Shannon Sharpe
He comes back and he's, you know, right back in the swing of things with. With. With. With Josh Allen. It's like that sometimes, though, Joe Alvin, Harper had the same situation within Dallas. Got big money to go to Tampa.
- [30:58]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, Unk, let me tell you something. Now, it's a different ball game when you. That. When you. That one. If you really let me. Hey, if you're really not who you think you are and you don't have that supporting cast around you and you the main man, you can get exposed.
- [31:12]
Shannon Sharpe
You hear me?
- [31:14]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, it. It get. It gets. Hey, it get real. It get real iffy when you number one. When you that number one guy. But.
- [31:21]
Shannon Sharpe
But another thing, what gets iffy when you number two and they pay you to be number one, and all of a sudden you have to be number one. That's what get iffy. It ain't because how many times we've seen. And I ain't gonna call no name, but y' all know who he talk. Talking about. He played with Pittsburgh. Yeah. He went to AB. Oh, yeah, they let AB Go.
- [31:40]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, it's different now.
- [31:41]
Shannon Sharpe
All of a sudden, all the attention gonna be on you. Now you get. So now you get Ram. Now you get everybody's number one corner.
- [31:49]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, it's different. It's different. It's different. But. But. But offensively, for. For Keon Coleman, there. There. There is a. There is a space for you. There's a niche that you can do where you can add an explosive dynamic to where the Bills don't have to march down the goddamn field over and over. Josh Allen doesn't have to play Superman and be accurate on every single throw on all the. All the short and intermediate routes. You can add that special dynamic of explosive plays to help that offense out. So young bull, get yourself together, lock in, and let's. Let's finish this season off strong.
- [32:27]
Shannon Sharpe
Ain't a whole lot of defense that they gonna face. That's the Houston Texans. That.
- [32:31]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
That. That. It's only. It's only two others. It's only two others. The only two other defenses that are similar to that, that put up that type of production, statistically, defensively, is the Browns and the goddamn Broncos.
- [32:44]
Shannon Sharpe
That's it.
- [32:45]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
That's it.
- [32:46]
Shannon Sharpe
And two of the three you might have to face in the playoffs.
- [32:48]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
- [32:49]
Shannon Sharpe
Now, I know. I know the Colts are going to do everything they can to try to make sure they don't make the playoffs. Yeah. Because if I get an opportunity, hey, I'm killing that with a sledgehammer. I'm gonna make sure your ass don't get the player because, damn, I don't want. I don't want you to knock me out. And they got. They got two times the Colts got to play. If I'm not mistaken, I think the Colts have to play the Texans twice.
- [33:07]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
- [33:07]
Shannon Sharpe
In the final seven games. Go ahead.
- [33:09]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
And the funny thing about it. God damn, Trajavius Ward is coming back.
- [33:15]
Shannon Sharpe
Brother.
- [33:15]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Ward is coming back. So now they got. I mean, they, they got it good. They got Sauce Ward shoot to come back, though. That's gonna be nice, huh?
- [33:25]
Shannon Sharpe
They need. The Colts need Buck.
- [33:27]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. As far as they put him on ir.
- [33:30]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I think he. I don't. I don't know what. I don't know if it was his shoulder. I don't know what the injury was. Ocho, but he's the key to that defense. Yeah, because he's the guy. I mean, that can generate pressure inside D tackle. That could. He good against the run. He can, he can pass rush. So he. He's going to be the key to that defense. Yeah. You want war? You pairing with Sauce Gardner, the offense. Hey, you got Jonathan Taylor, who's in the mvp, offensive player of the year running. They've got. They. They've got a nice offense. They got some, what, Pierce, and They got Pittman Jr. They got Warren, so they got good pieces offensively, but, boy, hey, this night. What, What? What the Texans put on tape tonight.
- [34:17]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Not only was it an ass whooping, they put on a defensive clinic. Hey, again, Kaleb Bullock, boy, if you see this boy, I salute you. Boy, I salute you. Real deal.
- [34:29]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, well, hey, that'll. Hey, Will Anderson was like. Like Oprah. You get an ass whipping. You get an ass whipping. You get an ass whipping. He ate. Hey, hey, I. Whipping ass over here. Who wants her?
- [34:43]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
As a matter of fact, matter of fact, you know what? I'm glad you just said that, because not only is he gonna get a payday, he gonna be the. He's gonna be the next defense in to reset the market. I. He. He's that good. He's that special. He's playing. He's been. He's everything he was advertised to be coming out of Alabama.
- [35:00]
Shannon Sharpe
Yep.
- [35:01]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
He's lived up to every bit of the hype. He's gonna reset the market.
- [35:06]
Shannon Sharpe
He's, he's special, young. They got, they, you know, they're gonna have some decisions to make, you know, C.J. stroud. Yeah. He's 38. Anderson, that, that, that's not a bad situation. I mean, look, they traded Deshaun. See, that's what you do if you move on from a player. Yeah, you hit with those picks. C.J. anderson, you look at what they got. I think Nico Collins was one of those picks, right? Hey, when you start. Hey, Ocho, when you start, like, okay, yeah, now, we, but, but, but you.
- [35:37]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Also understand how difficult it is to make sure you hit is, you know.
- [35:41]
Shannon Sharpe
Did there have been other not to hit all of. I mean, they hit it out the park. That's a grand slam.
- [35:46]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Every, every last picks turned out great. Turned out great.
- [35:50]
Shannon Sharpe
You got foundation piece. Foundation pieces that you can have for the next decade. The next decade.
- [35:58]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
- [35:58]
Shannon Sharpe
But, boy, the number they did on the Bills tonight, and the Bills are a very good offensive team, but they got their ass handed. The whole line got their ass handed to him tonight. They got their ass handed to him. Cook ran the ball hard. I, I, I, I'm surprised that the success that they had running the football, they didn't run a little more. I mean. Yeah, that ain't enough, Ocho. I mean, hold on. Y' all mean to see. Hold on. Let me see what this.
- [36:22]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Wait in. In that second quarter when he.
- [36:24]
Shannon Sharpe
Cook had 17 rushes, 116 yards, so they had 24 carries for a buck 43.
- [36:31]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, most of that, most of that yardage came on that one long run.
- [36:34]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, but he was getting, he was getting five, six, seven yards.
- [36:38]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, yeah.
- [36:39]
Shannon Sharpe
At some point in time, I have to come to the realization, yes, I want to throw the ball, but I offensive line getting my ass handed to him.
- [36:46]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, you're right. Well, listen, if your office is like, getting their ass whooped, the chance of running the ball are slim.
- [36:51]
Shannon Sharpe
But, hey, he's running the ball. It was the pass sets. That was when you got those guys. Because you got to realize they jumping off the rock.
- [36:59]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, they getting.
- [37:00]
Shannon Sharpe
Now, I will say this and Meek, I think the Miko a one mistake. They had an ineligible man down the field, and he declined it. Bro, I'm not declining nothing. Fourth in the one with Josh Allen. Oh, and fourth. No.
- [37:13]
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- [37:13]
Shannon Sharpe
Back y' all ass up because what they do, Ocho, go for it and get the first down.
- [37:18]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
- [37:20]
Shannon Sharpe
So you have to be. You have to understand who that is over there. He's six five, 250. He gonna do. He's gonna do what he just did. Hey, who, who first down. Yeah.
- [37:32]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Every time.
- [37:33]
Shannon Sharpe
But man, hey, they did an unbelievable job. The Houston Texans were 3 and 5 when they lost CJ Stroud to concussion protocol. Davis Mill has done his job. Ocho, he's held the fort down. Now they're three and oh, getting ready to make this tough stretch. I see my tweet. My guy, man. Sorry. I don't even know the ref's name, but it looks like he popped in Achilles. That's what it looked like, the ref.
- [37:58]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
So now we got. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Now we got players getting hurt, non contact injuries. Now we got the refs going down.
- [38:07]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. And then my college, my college teammate, Stump, we call him Stump. His name is Roy Ellison. He was the center my freshman year. He was a senior. Kind of took me under his wing and I was, I was, I talked to him from time to time. But to see him step in and step up. So now you ain't got no referee. Cause the umpire. Stump is an umpire. Right?
- [38:29]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Right.
- [38:29]
Shannon Sharpe
Reft in three super bowl, he's a umpire than three Super Bowl. Right now he goes to the referee slot. Thought he did an unbelievable job. So you. Hey, stop. I know you're gonna see this. Ssu. We proud baby. College by the sea. Hey, get anywhere from here?
- [38:42]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, now that I think about it. Hey, what you think? Hey, what you think about me being a referee in the NFL?
- [38:50]
Shannon Sharpe
You got to go through the steps. You're not going to go. You're not going. You're not going to go through the steps. Now you're not going to. Ref. High school football, then college football. Because Stunt went through. He started the high school football, right? Then he went to college football. And then my last year in the league.
- [39:04]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Right, right.
- [39:05]
Shannon Sharpe
I was looking at, I was looking at the sheet. Cause you know, we get the big sheet on you and I'm looking, I'm like, huh. Looking at the reference like Roy Ellison. I said, I know a Roy Ellison.
- [39:13]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Right, right, right. And it just happened to be him.
- [39:15]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. I went to school with a Roy Ellison, right. So I run it on the field. Sure, sure. That's his.
- [39:25]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, dog. Hey. Hey. Now that I think about it, you know, everybody's not made equal, you know, depending. It's all on who you know, you know, in life. You know that, right?
- [39:35]
Shannon Sharpe
Even if you don't go to high school route, they're Gonna want you to go to collegiate route.
- [39:39]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Okay, so like pwi. Like I could be the referee. Like Alabama game.
- [39:43]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know if you. I don't know the referee. You probably got to start. Hello. Damn. So you just want to start as the referee? Cause you do know a lot of these. These referees started out as something other than referees. Yeah, but.
- [39:56]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
But I don't think they. This is me. This me, I play. I played the game, you know, at the highest level.
- [40:02]
Shannon Sharpe
Ed Hockley, son, I don't know if he started out as a ref, but he's Rashawn Hockley. You remember Ed Hockley had his arms out, right? His son is an official.
- [40:17]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, I don't know. Hey, I could just see me out there in that ref man with the zebra shirt with the whistle.
- [40:23]
Shannon Sharpe
Nah, you can't. You. They're not gonna let you do it.
- [40:26]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Why?
- [40:27]
Shannon Sharpe
Cause you're friends with too many guys in the NFL.
- [40:30]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I ain't friend with them. Not on the field.
- [40:32]
Shannon Sharpe
They don't know that.
- [40:34]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Off the field we cool.
- [40:35]
Shannon Sharpe
Exactly.
- [40:36]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
A straight face. Straight face. I'm locked in.
- [40:39]
Shannon Sharpe
You don't mingle with. You don't. You don't mean you don't mingle with too many of them.
- [40:44]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, Holden, number 64, 10 yard penalty replay second down they go.
- [40:52]
Shannon Sharpe
They gonna pass on you.
- [40:54]
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I turned off news altogether.
- [43:59]
Shannon Sharpe
I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything.
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It feels like it's trying to divide people.
- [44:10]
Shannon Sharpe
We got clear facts. Maybe we could calm down a little. NBC News brings you clear reporting. Let's meet at the Facts. Let's move forward from there. NBC News reporting for America.
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Shannon Sharpe
Ocho. There was plenty of speculation to why the cowboy star receiver Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens were benchmark for the opening drive against the Raiders. CD confirmed the rumors that he and Pickens had been out past curfew having dinner and a few drinks at Red Rock Casino. Okay, you should have hit your boy up. I'd have came out with y'.
- [45:13]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
All.
- [45:14]
Shannon Sharpe
However, CD made sure to shoot down any claim that he was seen throwing up around 7:30am CD said such a claim was offensive to him because he knows how to hold his liquor. Ocho.
- [45:27]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, what's up?
- [45:31]
Shannon Sharpe
This what they do to Ocho.
- [45:33]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, but shoot. Hey, I'm gonna be honest with you, boy. I had. Not me personally, but it was a lot of folk late during my time either. I'm not one. I ain't no snitch, you know, I ain't gonna do that. Nothing like that. You know, if I'm ever in the chair, I' ma just plead the fifth, you know, But I didn't seen it happen. Now. Now it's a little bit different because we got cameras everywhere.
- [45:54]
Shannon Sharpe
Everywhere.
- [45:55]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Technology is a little different. So when we played, didn't nobody know because there was nobody to tell unless somebody close to you snitched on you.
- [46:03]
Shannon Sharpe
Yep.
- [46:04]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Or you told me yourself by actually showing up late. And most of the times it was kept in house. Now, boy, everybody can see everybody because.
- [46:12]
Shannon Sharpe
They got them camera phone.
- [46:13]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Oh, yeah.
- [46:13]
Shannon Sharpe
Even when you try to go out like, hey, can I get a picture?
- [46:15]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I said, no, I'm just right.
- [46:18]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, somebody gonna know because you gonna post it.
- [46:22]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey. And if you don't give hey. And if you don't give him a picture, they'll get mad and tweet. Guess who I just saw. Yeah.
- [46:30]
Shannon Sharpe
Bro, how you ghost me? How you gave up my position. It's like. Oh, it's like the guy that had went to the Airbnb and he left a negative rating. The guy that owned the Airbnb sent the photo of his wife to his wife of him going to the Airbnb with another woman.
- [46:47]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
But that's real.
- [46:49]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [46:51]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
That was. No, that wasn't a Netflix show. Or that's real life.
- [46:54]
Shannon Sharpe
Real life. Oh, hell.
- [46:56]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Oh, hell. Oh, he got to see.
- [47:00]
Shannon Sharpe
You got to see.
- [47:00]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, you mess up my.
- [47:03]
Shannon Sharpe
He gotta get. Hey, he gotta get the dumb dumbs. What? Yeah, man.
- [47:08]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, you done messed up my marriage on the counter. It wasn't me. But it was you.
- [47:13]
Shannon Sharpe
No, hold on. You say you messed up my Airbnb, give me this bull job rating now. People ain't gonna want to come to my spot.
- [47:21]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, that's the true meaning of a. I for an eye.
- [47:24]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, but, Ocho, the thing is, if you in the wrong, why would you even. Why would you even do that? Why would you leave a negative rating, right?
- [47:32]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Because, for one, you didn't think. You didn't think he would. You would stoop that low. You didn't think he was.
- [47:36]
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, I'm thinking, like, most of these Airbnb's got cameras, right?
- [47:44]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You can't handle camera in Air B. Airbnb.
- [47:47]
Shannon Sharpe
At worst case, a ring camera.
- [47:49]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Oh, a ring camera. Yes. Okay. Yeah, you're right.
- [47:51]
Shannon Sharpe
So you got.
- [47:52]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Right.
- [47:52]
Shannon Sharpe
So how you go get in?
- [47:54]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, okay, you're right.
- [47:56]
Shannon Sharpe
So with that.
- [47:58]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey.
- [47:59]
Shannon Sharpe
But you say, hey. Hey, Keon, you see the difference? CD and pickets without past curfew have a dinner and a few drinks. They missed a series. You missed two games. There's levels. You're not at that level yet.
- [48:13]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, Keith, we gonna get you there, boy. Come holler at your boy in the off season. I'm telling you, boy, we gonna get you right. You hear me?
- [48:18]
Shannon Sharpe
Let's go. I. Me, man, I'm sleepy. I'm tired. Hey, my thing is, Ocho, when I. When, like, we. After we had a meeting, you know, we have our individual meetings, then we have a team meeting.
- [48:33]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
- [48:33]
Shannon Sharpe
Mike gonna play a video. He gonna play the top plays from last week. We'll have a little music to it, and then, you know, he gonna give us our speech. What he expect? Blah, blah, blah. And then we go. We go get, you know, a meal. Yeah, Ocho, I'm trying to go to bed.
- [48:48]
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I ain't.
- [48:48]
Shannon Sharpe
I. I ain't got it in me.
- [48:51]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah. See, you a little different. You. You old school with your. You. You. A little structure. You got a little discipline. When it. When. When it came to your approach.
- [48:58]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [48:59]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
The players today, they're a little bit more relaxed. Relaxed. You know, I want to be outside. I want to enjoy myself. I want to have a nice little meal, you know?
- [49:07]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
- [49:07]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
See what's out there. You know, we in Vegas.
- [49:11]
Shannon Sharpe
I might have tried to shake the covers for dark.
- [49:13]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [49:16]
Shannon Sharpe
Hold on.
- [49:16]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Today. Hold on. No, no. Before a game.
- [49:20]
Shannon Sharpe
Nah, I can't.
- [49:22]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I can't do that. Huh? Okay, listen, my cut off. My cutoff was Wednesday. My cut off, my cut off was Wednesday. If I don't catch you between Sunday and Wednesday. Oh, no, I can't. I can't do nothing with you. I can't. I don't want no. I don't want no type of. I don't want no. No lactic acid build up. I don't want no spaghetti legs. So you got. You got to get that work in between that, huh?
- [49:43]
Shannon Sharpe
I cut off with two hour for the game. How about cut off two out for the game. Hey, hold on. Yeah, yeah.
- [50:04]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, but. But you ain't had no leg. You out there running with no legs.
- [50:07]
Shannon Sharpe
Nah. Hey, nah, ojo. You see? You remember the movie Free Willie?
- [50:12]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
- [50:12]
Shannon Sharpe
How Willie came up out that pool. Yeah, that's me. Free willing. I have plenty leg. I think that's a. I think that's a misnomer.
- [50:27]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You think so?
- [50:28]
Shannon Sharpe
I think so.
- [50:29]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I don't know, boy. I don't know because I. I didn't. I. Nah, I don't. I don't think so.
- [50:34]
Shannon Sharpe
I. I had a couple. I know for sure. I had a couple of real big games. Real, real, real big ones.
- [50:40]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. I'm not.
- [50:42]
Shannon Sharpe
Listen, I'm not like 160, 160, 180, 120. Well, you know, 150 and a couple of two.
- [50:49]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, right, right, right. Yeah. I. I don't know. Maybe. Maybe I'm. I'm not even superstitious. I'm not even superstitious, but I just understand that feeling of. Of horizontal activity and then finishing and having to stand up and. Oh, shoot. And just be being a little wobbly, you know, Not. Not. Not. Not being in my right state of mind, but damn, the equilibrium must be off. I don't play like that. I don't play like.
- [51:17]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah, me either, Ocho. You see? You see the position I pay? I don't play like that either, But. Bad. Nah, but in all. Seriously, don't, Joe. I like bad in today's time. Well, like you say, the technology, the way it is.
- [51:37]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah. You can't.
- [51:39]
Shannon Sharpe
Somebody sees you. It's just hard. It's hard. It's hard to get away. CDN them owned it. Hey, Jay gonna tell Pickett to go out anytime he want to after that performance. Because Jerry said that's one of the best performance he's seen.
- [51:51]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Matter of fact, with the way they playing in general as a 1A and 1B, man, y' all go ahead and do what you need to do. Do what you need to do, you know, as long as you show up the way you, you've been showing up on the field or maybe good. Hey, good.
- [52:07]
Shannon Sharpe
Just don't, hey, just, hey, just hey, just don't let nobody see y', all don't let nobody see y' all going out.
- [52:13]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, that's it. That's it. And when you come in coming and when you come in, coming through the back.
- [52:18]
Shannon Sharpe
Though George Pickett hopes his first season is not his last. Picket said, I love to be back, especially with CD and Dak all, but all the guys really. Pickens is the fourth and final year of his rookie contract that he signed with the Steelers at the second round in 2022. He's scheduled to become an unrestricted free agent in March of March. Pickens has 908 receiving yards through 10 games, the most through the first 10 games of a player's tenure in Dallas franchise history. He's, he's second in receiving yards. Oo, you know, I know you want Pick to chase the bag. Would you be content if Pick stayed in Dallas?
- [52:58]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Man, listen, hold on. But I want to talk about these stats real quick now. I want people to understand and, and, and, and understand how special George Pickens is. Right? George Pickens is second in receiving yards. 908. He only got 58 catches. Yeah, he only got 58 catches, man. So that's, that's letting you know he's doing more with less, you know, so let's start there Now. George Pickens coming back to Dallas. I like the idea. I like the idea, right. You know, Pickens, CD Lamb, Dak, Dak Prescott. We understand how special, especially with them having a, a year remove, going to a second year on how special they can be offensively. But I understand Dak has to get done again. I understand that.
- [53:50]
Shannon Sharpe
I understand they'll do Dak again. They're not gonna let Dak. No, I think Dak number is Damn near like 70, $75 million cap here. So they'll redo Dak again, right? But probably give him another four year deal. Five year deal, making like $300 million. And they'll give him, you know, at the time of signing. They'll give him a hundred million dollars. He'll get, he'll get, I mean he got guaranteed right now 229 million. So he'll get another deal, probably 250 million guaranteed.
- [54:20]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
But is, is, is Dak willing to take less to make sure George Pickens to make sure he get close to his value? Because he's not going to get anywhere near close to his value if he stays in Dallas. I would love for him to stay in Dallas. He would be great there offensively and what he can do based on what he's putting on display right now, I love it. I love the idea. I just understand when it comes to getting your first contract, your first big contract, most of the time, unless you. That guy, like, that guy, guy. They've already paid CD Lamb.
- [54:54]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [54:54]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You know, so based on where he is right now, he would supposed to be. If he was elsewhere, he would overlap CD Lamb's contract.
- [55:01]
Shannon Sharpe
Correct.
- [55:02]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
He would overlap it. But he won't be able to do and get his true value because he's staying in Dallas. So does he want to take a discount and say, you know what? I'm gonna stay here. I'm gonna take less to stay here in Dallas and be productive here, or do I want to go somewhere else? Now, whatever he chooses to do that, that's on him. But I' ma have a conversation with David Mulanghetta, and we gonna sit down and we're gonna talk and we gonna see what type of plan we're gonna put together for Pick and see what's best for him for our foreseeable future. Now, Dallas Cowboys fans, I love y'. All. I love what Pick brings to the table. But don't be selfish. Don't be selfish. You should want what's best for pick two. Yes. Being with the Dallas Cowboys, and that's what you want because you're a Dallas Cowboy fan. But what's best for George Pickens, his family and his long term. Let's think about him long term, you know, and being able to set up not just his kids, but his grandkids kids, you know? Now, if he can get that done in Dallas, I'm all for it.
- [56:05]
Shannon Sharpe
I. I think the thing is, Ocho, they. They, you know, they do. They redo Dak. That'll take. That'll take 30 million off the cap right there. To make his cap. To bring his cap number down. Yeah, they'll probably do something restructure, give CDs money and a signing bonus. Yeah, that'll take more money off the cap.
- [56:25]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Okay, now we talking.
- [56:27]
Shannon Sharpe
So could I see him getting a deal somewhere? Five years, 180 million.
- [56:37]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Okay.
- [56:38]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [56:39]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Okay, okay, okay. We cooking. Okay, we cooking.
- [56:42]
Shannon Sharpe
I can see that.
- [56:42]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
We cooking. Now, the problem is, now, see, we thinking sensible. Yeah, me and you thinking sensible. The chat, they thinking sensible. Especially any Cowboys fans that's in the chat, you know? I love y', all, too. I love y', all. Y' all don't, don't think I'm hating. I love y', all, but. And Jerry gonna think sensible.
- [57:02]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [57:04]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Is he gonna think sensible? Now we know how Jerry Jones is when it comes to when it's time to pay. You understand that now, is George Picking gonna have the patience to deal with that Jerry like to do? Making you wait to the last goddamn minute? I don't know. We understand the issues that Jerry Jones has had with David Mulaguetta in the past.
- [57:23]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [57:24]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Is he gonna have the patience, the one to deal with the bull drive that Jerry gonna put him through? So there, there. There's other dynamics that come into play, you know. Well, what Munugha might want to tell Pick, man, listen, we ain't got time for this. Oh, my bad. I'm sorry. We ain't got time for this.
- [57:40]
Shannon Sharpe
I think because Pick got an edge to him.
- [57:45]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
- [57:45]
Shannon Sharpe
I think Pick has a lot of on the field and how he goes about his business on the field.
- [57:51]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
- [57:51]
Shannon Sharpe
Has a lot of Michael Urban in him.
- [57:53]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
- [57:53]
Shannon Sharpe
We know what Jerry thought. Thought of Michael. Yes, sir. What he thinks of Michael. So I think he would probably lean towards probably getting something done. That's. That, that's going to everybody. Because he realized now he traded for Mingo. Mingo ain't seen the field yet.
- [58:11]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
- [58:11]
Shannon Sharpe
This year. I think he's been a healthy scratch the last couple of times. Remember, they. They traded a fourth round pick from to Carolina to get Mingo. He's finally got a guy. He's finally got a guy. Yeah. That's comparable to cd. It's hard to get a guy comparable to your number one. Yeah, he can, he can fight him tooth and nail. Big, great, great hands, make tough catches. Tremendous run after the catch.
- [58:34]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Very good.
- [58:35]
Shannon Sharpe
Big, big, big body receiver. Jerry realized those guys don't grow on trees. Absolutely not. And we got him and I, we got him in our home. The best thing to do when you got him in your home, Mocho, is that what? Don't let him leave.
- [58:49]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Don't let him leave.
- [58:51]
Shannon Sharpe
Don't let him leave. He's on pace for 99 receptions, 1544 yards and 12 touchdown. Dak is the only team in the NFL this season to have feature top five player in passing, rushing and receiving yards. Dak is fifth in passing yards. Javante Williams is fifth in rushing yards. Pick is second in receiving yards. Man. So think about all the offense they got and look where they are. Because why the defense. Yeah, defense got to pick it up now. We'll see. We'll see. If they can replicate what they did, they got the Eagles. We'll see if they can replicate what they did. They went out and made it. They let Michael Parsons. They traded Michael Parsons to get Kenneth Kenny Clark and Quinn Williams. That's what Ada said. Look, we got to stop the run. Clark is more of a run stuffer. Quinnie Williams can play the run, but he's more of a pass rushing dt. Yeah, you got Clowney, you got Fowler, you got Williams, you got some guys that you got a digging zooa that you paid a lot of money to. He's still there. So we're gonna see. We're gonna see the Eagles. We got to see what the Eagles. We're going to see what the Eagles because they're. You're going to need to establish a run. You're on the road.
- [60:07]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
- [60:08]
Shannon Sharpe
CFC quad can get loose. Looks like Lane Johnson is going to be out. They're going to have their backup in there. We'll see. He says, hey, I want to make a name for myself. Wayne Johnson did that in stone. He is what he is, one of the great linemen in history. Now it's my time to get an opportunity to show you what I'm capable of. So, yeah, it's going to be very, very interesting.
- [60:26]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
But everything.
- [60:29]
Shannon Sharpe
I. I don't know what Jerry thought he was going to be when he traded for him, but he had to be. He has to have been everything that Jerry had hoped for and more.
- [60:38]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Absolutely.
- [60:45]
Shannon Sharpe
Was there ever a great. A teammate that you fought to keep on the team?
- [60:49]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Man, tj, man, who's.
- [60:53]
Shannon Sharpe
Who's.
- [60:53]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I mean, that. You know, I hate the dirty side of the business, but, you know, it is a business. I. I wonder who's to stay. Yeah, you know, I. I thought. I thought that, that, that, that. That chemistry we had and going, being from Oregon State and going from Oregon State, being drafted to the Bengals, I mean, I. I wanted that continuity to. To stay throughout the entirety of my career, but obviously things didn't go that way. I mean, that's about the only person. That's about the only person.
- [61:19]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. They really ask me. They. They really.
- [61:23]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
They.
- [61:26]
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, as I got older, I think once I went there and came back, I think Mike value my opinion on what I thought of certain guys, but for me, hey, you make your own decision. I'm going home. And guess what? And when I come back in the spring for OTAs, and they ain't here, I guess they moved on, right?
- [61:48]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
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Shannon Sharpe
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
That's a winning combo.
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Shannon Sharpe
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