Nightcap - Hour 1: Texas survives ASU, Ohio State handles Oregon, Ewers should return to CFB

Summary

Podcast Summary: Club Shay Shay – "Nightcap - Hour 1: Texas Survives ASU, Ohio State Handles Oregon, Ewers Should Return to CFB"

Release Date: January 4, 2025
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco
Podcast: Club Shay Shay
Description: NFL legend Shannon Sharpe—3x Super Bowl champion and member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame—sits down with the biggest athletes, celebrities, and influencers to discuss their accomplishments, challenges, and everything in-between.

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1. Peach Bowl Showdown: Texas vs. Arizona State

Game Recap and Highlights

Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco delve into the thrilling double-overtime victory of the Texas Longhorns over the Arizona State Sun Devils in the Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl. The game was a nail-biter, with Texas overcoming a 16-point deficit in the fourth quarter and securing a 39-31 win in double overtime.

• Missed Opportunities:

  • Chad Ochocinco ([05:21]): "I thought Arizona State was gonna get blowed out. Now look. Hey, I did too."
  • Shannon Sharpe ([09:58]): "You can't let that guy get over your head in that situation."

• Key Players:

  • Cam Scott ("Scat Pack"):
    • Ochocinco ([06:39]): "He's a senior too. He’s coming out, huh?"
    • Sharpe ([18:28]): “Scat Pack did something that you don't see very often. A guy winning defense, winning offensive player of the game from a losing team.”

Performance Analysis

The duo critiques Texas's kicker, highlighting missed field goals that nearly cost them the game. Despite these setbacks, Texas's resilience shone through in the double overtime period.

• Shannon Sharpe ([08:12]): "Quinn Ewers, 20 of 30, 332, three touchdowns, one interception."
• Chad Ochocinco ([10:31]): "You have to have some type of awareness... can't get beat in that situation."

2. Spotlight on Quinn Ewers and College Quarterback Dynamics

Quinn Ewers' Future in College Football

A significant portion of the discussion centers on Quinn Ewers, a standout quarterback for Texas, and the buzz surrounding his potential return to college football versus entering the NFL draft.

• Ewers' Performance:
  • Sharpe ([08:56]): "Three touchdowns, one interception. They didn't run the ball particularly well."
  • Chad Ochocinco ([36:06]): "Quinn Ewers has received a $6 million offer to enter the transfer portal rather than heading to the NFL draft this spring."

Transfer Portal and NIL Deals

The conversation touches on the lucrative offers available to top players like Ewers, emphasizing the evolving landscape of college football with Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) deals.

• Sharpe ([11:42]): "Some college team got $6 million in NIL money for... the ball that he threw that got picked."
• Ochocinco ([36:06]): "Four schools are working to get Ewers in the portal ahead of his final year of college eligibility."

3. Ohio State Dominates Oregon in the Rose Bowl

Game Overview

Shannon Sharpe provides an extensive analysis of Ohio State's commanding 41-21 victory over the Oregon Ducks in the Rose Bowl, highlighting Ohio State's superior talent and preparation.

• Dominant Performance:

  • Sharpe ([28:11]): "Ohio State looked very well... Jeremiah Smith set the stage early with seven catches, 87 yards, and two touchdowns."

• Talent Comparison:

  • Sharpe ([32:05]): "They're like Coach Saban's Alabama students... 10 first-round picks right there."

Coaching and Program Success

The hosts compare Ohio State's program to Alabama's, noting the consistent talent production but questioning the absence of a national championship for Ohio State.

• Sharpe ([35:38]): “Colleges like Ohio State have had quarterbacks like C.J. Stroud, Justin Fields... and you ain't got no national championship.”
• Ochocinco ([35:38]): "Is it still underachieving simply because you haven't won a national championship?"

4. Talent Pipeline and NFL Prospects

Developing NFL-Ready Players

The discussion extends to the importance of a strong talent pipeline in college football and its impact on NFL success. Sharpe and Ochocinco emphasize the necessity of providing quarterbacks with elite receiving talent to maximize their potential.

• Shannon Sharpe ([38:14]): "Look at what C.J. Stroud was throwing to... Roman Dunes, a first-round pick."
• Chad Ochocinco ([41:03]): "The Pittsburgh Steelers are just like Cincinnati when it comes to receivers. They always have good receivers come through that channel."

Historical Comparisons

Sharpe draws parallels with legendary NFL quarterbacks, underscoring the critical role of receiving corps in achieving on-field success.

• Shannon Sharpe ([39:16]): "Look at what big Ben had to throw to... Tyreek, Sammy Watkins, Travis Kelsey."

5. Future of College Quarterbacks

Ewers' Decision and Potential Impact

The hosts debate whether Quinn Ewers should return to college football to further hone his skills or proceed to the NFL, considering the high stakes and competitive nature of both arenas.

• Shannon Sharpe ([36:31]): "He has to come back and continue to work on his game. I need your play to pop out on the screen."
• Chad Ochocinco ([37:04]): "I agree with you, Ocho. I don't see special. I see a good college quarterback, but I don't see special."

Impact of Returning Players

They discuss how Ewers' return could influence his team's dynamics and performance, drawing on examples of other quarterbacks who benefited from additional college playtime.

• Shannon Sharpe ([37:50]): "If you had offensive players of the year, quarterbacks like C.J. Stroud... he needs to come back somewhere else."

6. Underlying Issues in Top College Programs

Consistency and Championship Fails

Sharpe and Ochocinco critique Ohio State's inability to clinch a national championship despite having a roster filled with top-tier talent, comparing it to Alabama's consistent success under Coach Saban.

• Sharpe ([35:38]): "You got 10 first-round picks... but no national championship. That's the difference between them and Alabama."
• Chad Ochocinco ([33:50]): "Why they haven't won will be... there are valid reasons, depending on what they may be."

Strategic Shortcomings

The conversation highlights potential strategic missteps and areas where top programs may falter despite having the necessary talent.

• Shannon Sharpe ([33:32]): “You got Chase Young, Nick Bosa, Jeff Okuda… But no national championship.”
• Chad Ochocinco ([33:52]): "I have a question. Do you still think it's unachieving simply because you haven't won?"

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Conclusion

In this episode of Club Shay Shay, Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco provide a comprehensive analysis of recent college football matchups, focusing on high-stakes games like the Texas vs. Arizona State Peach Bowl and Ohio State's triumph over Oregon in the Rose Bowl. They delve deep into player performances, the strategic nuances of the games, and the broader implications for college football and the NFL. A significant portion of the discussion is dedicated to Quinn Ewers' future, highlighting the complex decisions faced by top athletes in the era of NIL deals and transfer portals. Additionally, the hosts critique the consistency of powerhouse programs like Ohio State, drawing comparisons to Alabama's sustained success.

Notable Quotes:

• Chad Ochocinco ([05:21]): "I thought Arizona State was gonna get blowed out. Now look. Hey, I did too."
• Shannon Sharpe ([09:58]): "You can't let that guy get over your head in that situation."
• Chad Ochocinco ([36:06]): "Quinn Ewers has received a $6 million offer to enter the transfer portal rather than heading to the NFL draft this spring."
• Shannon Sharpe ([37:50]): "If you had offensive players of the year, quarterbacks like C.J. Stroud... he needs to come back somewhere else."
• Shannon Sharpe ([35:38]): "You got 10 first-round picks... but no national championship. That's the difference between them and Alabama."

This episode is a must-listen for college football enthusiasts seeking expert insights into player performances, game strategies, and the evolving landscape of college athletics.

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[Chad Ochocinco]

I thought, I thought it was. Listen, the way it started out, I thought Arizona State was gonna get blowed out. Now look. Hey, I did too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

14 what was it, 14? What was it, 14?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, but man, they jumped out on top of them boys head. I'm like, oh, man, I'm going to turn the channel. I'm going to turn the channel. And then obviously things started to change. Things started to move and I don't know what's wrong with college kickers. Hell, I don't even know what's wrong with NFL kickers. You have one job, you do one thing the entirety day of practice, you kick the ball. That's it. Texas kicker almost cost them. Almost cost. They missed two key field goals that could have sealed the win. Now, they did win the game, but ain't no telling what. What could have happened. Ain't no telling what could have happened. That goddamn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cam.

[Chad Ochocinco]

How you, how you say y'all. Young bull last night, Scatter bow.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Scat.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Scatmo.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Is it scatterable? Because they were, they were saying scatter Boo. They say scat boat. I mean, I'm confused.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean, you know what I'm gonna call him? I'm gonna call him Scat packed. Scam Cam. Scat Pack. Hey, he's nice, boy. He's a senior too. He coming out, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Scatter Boo. Cam. Scatter.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay, Cam Scott. Cam. Scat back. Scatter Boo. I know you're probably gonna see this. I know you're probably watching the show. Listen, if you don't see it, I know my son gonna let you know, boy, you the real deal, boy. You hear me? He a senior, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I think so. He's senior.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, we have. You know, you belong. You belong.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You. He.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He run the ball like he, he belonged to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Please.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He's supposed to play for the Ravens or the Browns.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he gonna be a rarity. He gonna be one of the white running back. They don't come along very often, but normally when they come along, you know.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know, you know he gonna be like, I'm gonna, I'm give you a good name right here. Tell me if you remember this. Peyton Hillis.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, little paid Hillis. Don't give up.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Run hard. If you get in the way, he can shake you a little bit. He got, he got a little, he got a little. Little move to him now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, you remember Hillis was in that Backfield with Darren McFadden and the other kid that went to, that went to the Cowboys. What's the other guy name? I mean, they were, they were doing it new. Michael Fadden and what's his. I can't think of the guy's name. What's what's the guy's name? Guy I know y'all people talking about Toby Gerhardt, the old cardinal, Stanford Cardinal. What's he was on, uh, uh, at Arkansas. Felix Jones. Oh, I remember.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I remember. Felix Jones. Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Derek McFadden. Yes. All it was in the backfield. Yeah. Yes, yes. But this is where a game's supposed to be. Quinn Ewers, 20 or 33. 33, 22. Three touchdowns, one interceptions. They didn't run the ball particularly well. 30 carries, 53 yards. Golden had a big catch, seven for a buck 49. Helm had three for 56. And I think Arizona State is going to be kicking themselves. They kind. I think they kind of let this one go. You can't let that guy get over your head in that situation. Oo that, that, that touchdown, that first touchdown in ot. Oo, you can't let it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That. That should have been the number one rule from the coach. Keep everything in front of you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Everything. The number one rule. Oo the number one rule late in the ball game. Nothing cheap, nothing deep.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Keep it in front of you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nothing cheap, nothing deep. I don't care if he catches. I don't care if he catch a 15 yard right in front of me. It's when you try to be the hero and get you a cheap kick that gets you in trouble. Ain't no way safety you the last line of defense. If he's even with you, you're wrong.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Mr. Rap. Ocho, it was fourth down with the 13.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho, you cannot give that up. You can't. Oh, Ocho, my heels on the goal line. I'm thinking, as a matter of fact, I think they throw the Hail Mary. Ocho, I'm on the goal. Like my heels on the goal line. I knock it down. Knock it down. No, you're not getting paid, right? I'm not gonna give you no cheap time.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, man. I don't even want to blame the coaches. I don't want to blame coaching. As a player in that situation, you got to have some type of awareness, some type of awareness and understanding, understand the situation that you're in and know you just. You can't be. You can't get beat. Not in that situation at all. And if anything, if I am, let him make a great play, but let me be in position. If you don't make the play, at least let me be in position. And he have to make a great play, you know, to catch that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, I was like, oh, my goodness. Oh, 4th and 13, you give up that. But I think Arizona State showed that they belong. Everybody was like, well, they didn't belong that week conference and they didn't do this and this team didn't do that. They play. They gave Texas all they could have definitely belonged and more Ojo. When you watched Quinn Ewers what you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Think, you know, it's hard to tell. It's hard to tell at this level. Obviously, to me, if you have enough, if you have enough talent around you, enough players at this kind of level, any quarterback can look good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So what kind of quarterback is hurs. Is this type of quarterback that go to the NFL and elevate the talent around him? Who's the kind of quarterback where he needs a talent around him that to be able to elevate?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I don't see him elevating anybody. I really don't. And the mere fact that he's thinking about coming back lets you know because normally come back where he's going to come back to Texas, he going to transfer? I don't see him going to.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He's not going to see the field before with archman art. Yeah. Oh, no. I mean he probably. If he gonna come back, he probably gonna come back somewhere else, but I doubt it's Texas because he not gonna be arch Manning out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, I've been reading. I don't know if these reports are true. Oo, but I've been reading that some, some. Some team, some, Some college team got $6 million in nil money for. I mean, okay, that, that's. I just, When I just watch him, I'm like, bro, that ball that he threw that got picked, I'm trying to figure out the loaf.

[Chad Ochocinco]

The loaf that he loafed it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. The hospital ball.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I still don't know where he was throwing it because the backside safety and the front side was there. So I'm just trying to figure out. So, okay, well, who. What did you see? What did you. What did you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I know what did happen on that play right there. They ran it in practice multiple times. And in practice it was open in practice.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know why it was open? You know why it was open. Tell the people at home what they say. They tell the safety to do what? Jump the underneath so we can throw the ball over your damn hand.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's exactly what he did. Anyway, instead of understanding and reading your coverage, you know, and you just letting the ball go and it's not open.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because that's the, that's what happens. What happens is we, hey, you go draw the thing up. And there's the guy circle. Okay, we want to throw the ball. Now the guy that's running the scout team say, hey safety, you drop the crossing route and we gonna throw the post over your head. Boom. Well, come game time, hey, can you drop this? Can you drop this over round so we can throw the post behind your head? He gonna read it, right? Duh, you should read it. But you see what happens, Ocho, when you make your mind up pre snap that you throwing the ball? That's what happens. Yeah, that's what happens. He had his mind made up. I'm throwing this post no matter what, bro. Ain't no way you in hell. You read that and said, you know what, I'm throwing this. And then he throw it like a punch. Yeah, that's got to be on the line. But even if it was on the line, first of all, that was targeted too because the backside guy left his feet and hit the guy in the chest. But they didn't, hey, they didn't want to like, nah, we can't call that target, blah, blah blah. Because they returned the favor because by the letter of the law, the Texas got targeted, but they didn't want to impact the game in that way. Just as though. No targeting. But that was absolute targeting. Yeah, I mean he wouldn't help it. Helmet. And the other guy left his feet, he launched. They say you can't launch yourself and hit the guy in the neck of the shoulder area. He launched. And they say you can't use your helmet, the crown of your helmet to make a tackle. He went helmet to helmet with the guy. But it's like, man, we can't impact this game like this here.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They pick and choose. They pick and choose when the calling act absolutely right. They got to find some level of consistency when you're making these calls.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Texas had 375 total yards. Arizona State had 510 total rush yard. Texas had 53. Arizona State had 214. Quinn Ewers was 20 of 30, 332, three touchdowns, one interception. Sam Levitt 24, 46, 222, no touchdowns, one interception. But that last interception, Muhammad made a great play. Give him credit. I mean sometimes oo we keep blaming, we keep blaming the quarterback, man, you threw that. Blah, blah blah. But you know the defensive guys, they, they steady for him too. He made a hell of a play.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Very.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And he didn't settle, was just trying to break it up. He caught the ball, he caught it and it's okay, you know, I, I'm, you know, hey, 84, you got to make that play. Hey, Coach, you get paid, too. You think. You think Bronco players, the only way to make money in NFL. No, no. And they study field, and they got coaches, too. Oh, okay. Yeah. So, hey, I understand I'm supposed to make the play, but, you know, it's just NFL. Everybody can make a play. I'm gonna win more than I lose. But, hey, that guy made a hell of a play on that interception to seal this victory. But you can't get beat on four through 13, O, two over the top or two. You cannot. You can't. Oto, you cannot. No, I was like, bro. I said, are you. I said, are you serious?

[Chad Ochocinco]

That should have been a conversation had with the. Not just the head coach, the defensive coordinator, the DV coach, the secondary coach, the man up upstairs in the booth. Don't get beat deep. You can't. You can't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nothing cheap, nothing deep. I am not you. You will not complete this ball over my head. You're not. Because, Ocho, at worst case scenario, I'm going to make you line it up again and try to run another series of downs in order to get the ball in the end zone. Now, the only thing. The only thing you can hope is that once that guy gets over your head, either Quinn Ewers under throws him or the guy drops the football. But you. Hey, now, inside of your hands. See, I want to play in my hands, Ocho. I want to play in my hands. I get him on the ground. That's all I gotta do, get him on the ground. Well, you get him on the ground in the end zone, it's still a touchdown. You don't get no tackle for that. You gotta tackle him in the field of play or push his ass out of bounds in order for you to get a tackle. Once he in the end zone, guys and new people. Okay, can guys do me a favor? College kid, If a guy get a first down, can y'all stop celebrating? What did you do?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, come on, huh? Wait a minute now. Come on, now. You get that first down.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Joe, the guy got the first down.

[Chad Ochocinco]

When you get that first down, you gotta.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I'm talking about the defense.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, the defense. Oh, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you got a big hit on somebody. He got a first down.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, I thought. I thought you meant a receiver. Okay, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no. I'm like, bro, I'm like, what? Maybe I missed something. I said, let me rewind this because I want to see what you did. It's still a first down. Now, look, look, these college kids, they gonna celebrate that. I don't mind them celebrating. And plus, Ocho, if you make a tackle, I mean, as a defender, what's your job? Make a tackle?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can't celebrate every tackle. I mean, if you get a sack.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Ocho, tackle for loss.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, tackle for a loss. You get a sag. Ocho, a big key. Third down. You know you want to do this. I get all that. But, bro, the guy get 3, 4 yards and you jump up celebrating. Come on, now. Now we. We doing way too much with this.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They having a good time out there, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

She scatter boo scatterboat. 30 carries, 143 yards, two rushing touchdowns, eight catches, 99 yards. Had that guy not pulled his face mask, he's gonna drag his you know what into the end zone. Ocho Scatterbowl was so outstanding, he was named Peach bowl offensive player of the game. You don't see that very often.

[Chad Ochocinco]

His name is Scat Pack.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Scatter Boo.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Scat Pack.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Scatter Boo. Scat Pack. But Scat Pack did something that you don't see very often. A guy winning defense, winning offensive player of the game from a losing team. It's only happened, you know, Jerry West. The first year they gave out Finals MVP in 1969, Jerry west won the award on a losing squad. They lost the championships 4, 3. The final game, they lost on their home court again. Now you got to go back to the end of football. Chuck Howley, he won Super Bowl MVP on a losing squad. They lost 16, 13 to the Colts. Chuck Howley was the MVP. That's the only time that I can remember somebody from the losing squad winning an award. Now, I'm not saying that maybe it's happened. I don't know, in baseball if somebody's won a World Series MVP from the losing squad. I don't. I have to go way back, but I don't. I don't remember. It doesn't. I don't think it's happened in the last 25, 30 years, but it just goes to show you just how outstanding that this gentleman was from the Sun Devils running and catching the football.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He be. He.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He belongs. When you're able to perform like that against a team like that, it lets you know you belong, regardless of the conference you play in.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah, but you could. You can tell guys that the talent shine above. You can tell. I mean, he. Okay, that's an SEC defense. And he went and got a buck 30. He went. Got a. A buck 43 on him. And he almost had 100 yards receiving. So he had what? 200? And what's that? 242 yards of total offense. That ain't bad. And two touchdowns against an SEC defense look good when you go play. And if you had a small school ojo, if you play up a level, say you go to Division 2 and you play FCS or you FCS and you play D1, the talent is shined through Darius Leonard. When he played Clemson, he was at South Carolina State. He had 29 tackles. Oh, he could play.

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[Chad Ochocinco]

And you know what this is? This is another conversation that I always like to have where young players coming out of high school, they're always so focused on all their offers and where they're going. And I say it again, if you really like that, if you really like that and you feel you're as good as you think you are, it really don't matter where you go, because you can put up performances like that, which you were able to do against better team, which you were able to do better or being like scat pack and coming out there and performing very well.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, Ocho, I think a lot of times when you cut on the TV and you see that, that horseshoe pack, or you see 108,000 at Texas A&M, you see 100,000 at Georgia, you see 93,000 at Alabama, you see 105,000 at Tennessee. Kids like, I want to play in front of that. That's all. I mean, I, I, you know, that's, that's what I, I want. That's what I wanted because that's what I saw on television. I didn't see no hbc, but see.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I understand what you talking about. But then, now we, we go into the issue of, okay, I want to go to these big schools where they have players that have been there before me, and they, I get there and they tell me, oh, I got to wait my turn or I might not touch the field as much because we have so and so. And he has seniority over you. Not about, you know what, I'm coming in here to compete for the job. But you mean to tell me he asked and you're already over me, so he's probably going to play before me instead of let me have an opportunity to beat him out regardless of what, what, what his grade level is. Juniors, they have a choice. It don't matter.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, they had to play me.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You think Jeremiah Smith was going to go to Ohio State and have to sit behind somebody that's a senior or junior because they've been there for what, two, for three, three or four years, man. Man, please.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, you better get on the pot of it then. Cause, hey, you know who coming. Hey, hey, they had to play me on, yo. Yeah. Oh, what you thought? Oh, I was one of the future freshmen that travel. I ain't just traveling. Oh, you could travel this week, man. Travel to do what? Stand on the sideline of my uniform? Oh, hell no. And, and the first game, the first game we played oo our first home game, man, I was so embarrassed. O. I caught a goalball. Oo 56 yards, got tackled on the one. Oh.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Huh.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got it. My first catch in college.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hold on, what, hold on, what you embarrassed for, man?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's supposed to be a 57 yard touchdown, not a 56 yard catch.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Explain. Steve got a stiff. You, man, you got to catch that thing and you know, get that get that stiff arm back behind him, Ocho.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It felt like, I mean, it felt like I was running. It felt to me like I was running in slow motion. I was like, damn. Is somebody pulling the end zone away from me? Damn, Ocho. The game that you just watched, the Ohio State Buckeyes took AAPART the number one team in the country, the Oregon Ducks, 41, 21 in the Rose Bowl. Oregon, excuse me. Ohio State gets their revenge. It was one of their two losses on the season. They lost earlier in the year to Oregon in Oregon, but tonight they were really no match. Jeremiah Smith set the stage early. He had seven catches, a buck 87 and two touchdowns. But this was really a mismatch from the word jump. And I think this is what's so frustrating about Ohio State because you see what they can be now. This is the team that took away, took APART the number one team in the country by 20, by three touchdowns and lost on their own home field by a team that they were favored by three touchdowns. That's what's frustrating about them. And I think that's what. But Ryan Day, give him credit. We've been very critical here. Not critical. We were critical of the game that he lost. Losing to Ohio, losing to Michigan year in and year out. Having that level of talent that you have. Think about the quarterbacks that they made. Think about the wide receivers, thinking about the D lineman. Think about the, the DBs from the Denzel wars and the Jeff Okudas and all those guys that's come out of there and you ain't got no national championship. No national championship. All those receiver Marvin Harrison Jr. Jackson, Smith and Jigba. You got Chris Olavi, you got Garrett Wilson. Look at those D linemen from Chase Young to Nick Bosa. Look at those quarterbacks. Justin Fields and you have, rest his soul, what's the guy that. That lost his life tragically? Dwayne Haskins, you had the other quarterback. And so you can understand why people like, hold on, come on, Coach Dave. You got this level of talent. They had a top, what top six, top seven pick last year at the offensive tackle position. They're like, coach, hey, you got this level of talent and you losing to Michigan and you ain't got no national championship. But all will be forgiven if he takes this thing and finishes it out. But Ohio State look good today, Ocho. They ran the ball well, they threw the ball well, they stopped. I mean, that high powered offense of Oregon, it looked very pedestrian, very mundane.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Listen, I don't know, maybe I could be wrong. But I think the week off, I think it did more harm than good for them to be as flat as they look today. As well as organisms played all season long being the number one team in the country, and the way they showed up today, that had to be a little bit of rust. And not only was it a little bit of rust, but it was too late and there was no room for the rust. When you're playing somebody like Ohio State who had a point to prove after losing the first time, they met early in the season, and that's exactly what they got. Jeremiah Smith, he said ahead of time that if you play one on one, hey, if you play one on one, you're not going to be able to cover me. He went out there and did exactly what he was supposed to do and handled his business. The funny thing about it, people don't. People right now are talking about Jeremiah Smith and how great he is and how good he is, and he's pro right now, even as a freshman, probably the number one receiver in the country right now as a freshman. I've been watching Young Bull at Chaminade down there in Miami. You know, for a few years, he been like that in Little League. He was like that at Ohio State. He is like that. When he get drafted into the NFL, he's still going to be like that. He been like that for a long time. Outside of that, man, Ohio State looked very, very well. Again, hoping coach Ryan Day can finish the task at hand. And for all the great players that have come through Ohio State, they can have, they can hoist that trophy at the end of the day.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Oh, C.J. stroud was a quarterback. You have C.J.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Stroud.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No national championship. Justin Fields, no national championship. Dwayne Haskins, no national championship. That's three quarterbacks taken in the first round. Now Olave, first round pick Garrett Wilson, first round pick Jackson Smith. And Jigba, first round pick Marvin Harrison Jr. First round pick Chase Young. The number two pick, Nick Bosa. The number two pick, Jeff Okuda. Denzel Ward. Come on now, Ocho. Come on, Ocho. I mean, people, hey, they make it seem like we just making stuff up. You got that level of talent year in and year out, and you ain't won no national championship. And people like, oh, oh, they're being too hard, bro. And you lose it to Michigan. I don't think. I personally don't think that's a stretch. When you got that level of talent that's coming out year in and year out and you're underachieving there's no other way around it. Ocho. Coach Day, you did a phenomenal job of having this team prepared. And from the word jump.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I have a question. Do you still. Is it considered underachieving, the fact that you've had all these quality players year in and year out? Is it still unachieving simply because you haven't won a national championship, but the seasons have been. Yes, the seasons have been a success.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, true.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, I'm just asking. I'm just asking.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Think about it. You got offensive player of the year, Offensive player of the year. Offensive player of the year. Think about it. You got quarterbacks, C.J. stroud, Justin Fields, and you had Dwayne Hackins in succession.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You think about. You had Jaska Smith and Jig, but you had Garrett Wilson, you had Olave, you had Marvin Harrison Jr. In succession. And a lot of those guys played together. You had Chase Young, you had Nick Bosa, Jeff Okuda, Denzel Ward. Come on, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm with you, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's 10, bro. That's 10 first round picks right there. And I said the same thing about Coach Saban. Coach Saban said that the fans in Ohio State are psychotic. I asked Coach Saban this if you had consistently lost to Auburn. And you got Julio and you got Calvin Ridley, and you got Judy, and you got Rugs, and you got Waddle, and you got Devontae Smith and you got Amari Cooper, and you got those quarterbacks, you got Tua, you got. You got. What's the guy that went to New England? Mac Jones. Mack Jones. Okay, you got him now. You got. And plus you got. What's the guy? Derrick Henry. And you got Najee Harris. You got Damian Harris, bro. And I ain't gonna talk about the defense. I ain't gonna talk about what they got. That wasn't fair. And you don't win no national championship. Even after a couple of years of Coach Saban and Alabama fans, y'all know this. Even after a couple of years of not winning the national championship, after he had done one, four or five, they said Coach Saban lost his fastball. That man had got four or five national championships. And they saying that with the talent, you got Quinny Williams and you got Allen and you got all those guys. See, man, you better. Hey, you better. You. Hey, when you have that level of talent on your. I mean, think about Alabama, the level of talent that they put out every single year. Ohio State ain't far behind. The only difference is Alabama has once in the last 15 years, has won six national championships, played for another three. That's the difference between them and Ohio State.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know what I would love to hear, especially in the chat and then probably people that are going to watch this after the fact and hear us talk about this and saying that Ohio State is underachieved based on the level of talent that they've had in succession there without winning the national championship. I'm curious to hear the rebuttals and with the not excuses, but the reason behind why they haven't won will be. And you know, people always find a way they come up with something. I don't want to call them excuses, but there are valid reasons, depending on what they may be. For whatever reason, I'm curious to hear what they have to say.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Quinn Ewers has received a $6 million offer to enter the transfer portal rather than heading to the NFL draft this spring. According to On3 Multiple Power, four schools are working to get Ewers in the portal ahead of his final year of college eligibility. Six million for one year.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Ocho, he got to come back. He has to come back and continue to work on his game. Because when you watch, when you watch yours, I need your play to pop out on the screen. I need it to pop out. When you watch a Joe Burrow in college, you watch a C.J. stroud in college, when you watch other quarterbacks like the Cam Ward, they pop out on screen. There's something special about those individuals. Special. So he needs to come back another year, no matter, no matter where it is and you know, pop out on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I agree with you. I agree with you, Ocho, I don't see special. I see a good college quarterback, but I don't see special. I don't see. I don't see. Man A. Must have a guy that say, like, boy, they get him. He gonna great. He's gonna, he's gonna drastically change their fortunes. I don't see that. Now. Let's see, let's see. I mean, he might come back and get better because nobody saw that. If you'd asked teams that was going to look at Joe Burrow before he came back for his senior year, Joe Burrow didn't seem special, but he came back for that year. He was special. Mac Jones. Hell, if Mac Jones don't come to get that one year, Mac Jones ain't no first. Ain't no first round pick, right? Sometimes, look, hey, I don't blame people like. Well, look. What.

[Chris]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, now can he make it Happen you throwing the Devonte. You got najee, you got waddle, you know, you got. Hey, you got a very, very talented team. It just goes to show you just how good he was because he kept Bryce Young on the bench. If we see Bryce Young the next year won the Heisman.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, and also look at the talent. This was this what I like about Bryce, too. Now, we saw him, we saw Bryce win the Heisman, but you look at the talent that Bryce had around him. So, yeah, he got got to Carolina. He thought something was wrong with him. Then he gets benched. He come back after getting bench and I don't know what the hell happened. I don't know what type of prayer he said. Now he's back to playing great football, looking like the Bryce Young we saw in college. Even in losing, even in losing efforts as a team and as a quarterback, he looks completely, totally different than he did when he first started.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He did. He does. They just need to give him some talent. If you look at the quarterbacks that perform well, look at C.J. stroud. Look at what he was throwing to. Tankdale. And Nico Collins. Look at what he was throwing to. Okay? Look at Akela Williams. He got Roman Dunes, a first round pick. He got D.J. moore, who just signed a contract extension. He got Keenan Allen. Look at. Look at what. Daniels.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jaden, look at what he's throwing to. Damn. I mean, y'all want the man to come out? Hey, I don't care. Even Peyton. Peyton Manning had Marvin Harrison when he got there. He had Marvin Harrison, he had Ken Dilger. I mean, and he had Marshall Paul.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. As a rookie. He had two first ballot hall of Famers as a rookie.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's a lucky draw.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ken Dilge had been the Pro Bowls. There's another. I forget the guy name. Oh, my goodness. The other tight end. As a matter of fact, the Colts had two tight ends to make the Pro bowl mark. What's his name? Go back and look at 90. Teddy. Stop scratching the couch. I can't think of the other. The other, bro. He was. What's that dude's name? Because I traded. I traded helmets with Ken Dilg at the Pro bowl one year. I'm trying to think, what year was that? Hell, I don't even remember. Provo, tight end. No, no, no. In like the 90s. Yeah. Marcus Pollard. Thank you, Chat. Marcus Pollard.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Marcus Pollard. I remember. I remember Marcus Pollard. Hey, I ain't heard that name in a minute, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, so, I mean, y'all want these guys to come out here and do spectacular things. But go back and look at your favorite quarterback and see what they was throwing to. Y'all do realize that when Mahomes became the starter, y'all know who he was throwing to, right? He had Tyreek. He had Sammy Watkins. He had Travis Kelsey.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Could I interest you in any of those guys? Two of those guys are going to the hall of Fame. Tyreek and Kelsey gonna go to the hall of Fame. That's what he was throwing to. Look at what Big Ben had to throw to.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, look what he's always, always had to throw to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, the Pittsburgh Steelers are just like Cincinnati when it comes to receivers. You know that. You notice that they always have good receivers come through that channel no matter what. Cincinnati and Pittsburgh always.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, they had plaques, they had Hines. What's your guy that won the super bowl? Mvp?

[Chad Ochocinco]

San Antonio Holmes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

San Antonio Holmes. I mean, bro. Y'all make it seem like. I mean. I mean, yeah, give. Give Bryce Young those type of weapons and let's see, let's see. You got to give the guy something to work with. Marino, I think. Marina. What? I think Duper and Clayton got there with Marino in 83. They might have came with 80. Might have been 83. They might have got there together, but you got to get a guy something to work with. Damn the volume.

[Chris]

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