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Nightcap - Hour 1: Thunder beat the Nuggets in G5 to go up 3-2, & the Pacers advance to the ECF!
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Shannon Sharpe
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Shannon Sharpe
Hello Ladies and gentlemen and thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. One team closed it out and are to the Eastern Conference finals. The other team is on the cusp. The Oklahoma City Thunder outscored the Denver Nuggets by 15 in the fourth quarter to erase a eight point deficit to win by seven, 112 to 105 y' all know me. I am your favorite uncle Shannon Sharp. My partner and co host, the Liberty City legend, the Bingo Ring of Fame honoree. He's a Pro Bowler, an All Pro as Chad oo Cinco Johnson. And joining us tonight, I'm sure he's excited about his former team, the Pacers moving on to the Eastern Conference Finals. He's an NBA champion. He's an All Star. He's a four time all defensive player. Defensive Player of the Year. Here he is ladies and gentlemen, Metta World Peace Meta. Thanks for joining us bro.
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Metta World Peace
Hey man, good to see you. Unk. What up Chad? Good to see you baby.
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Shannon Sharpe
Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. And guys, go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys. Remember your votes, your listens, you're watching, you're downloading, you're sharing all that matters. Because thanks to you, you allow Ocho and I to do what we do. And we can't do none of this without you. So thank you for your support and your continued support. Make sure you check out Shayball Portier. We do have it in stock now if you can't find it in a city or state near you, order it online and we'll ship it directly to your door. Trust me, you won't regret this. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Go follow my media company page on all of its platforms. That's Shay Shay Media and my clothing company 84 with 84 being spelled out. That link is pinned in the chat. Supplies are limited and once they're gone, they're gone. So please grab yours while supplies last tickets for our Not Safe for Work tour are on sale. Our eight stops are Baltimore, Philly, Charlotte, LA, Miami, NYC, Chicago and Detroit. Tickets can be found at shayshaymedia.com tour that's Shay Shay media.com tour go get your tickets now. Boy, it took everything. The grit that they showed. Oklahoma City weren't normally involved in a whole lot of games like this because they won. They were the best team in the NBA all year. But to see them execute the last two games in clutch situation. The last five minutes of the ball game, the game within five points, they've been sensational. The Thunder beat the Nuggets to take a 3:2 series lead. OKC double digit scores in game 5. Shea 31, J Dub 18, Hardenstein 15, Chet 14, Caruso 13 and Lou Dort had 12. This was a total team effort. Jokic came out, he was very, very aggressive. He wasn't looking to get everybody else involved. He was looking to dominate this game and he did. But he didn't get enough help. 44 points, 15 rebounds, five assists, two steals. And he did it on 17 of 25, shooting 5 of 7 from the three point line, 5 of 5 from the free throw line. As I mentioned, 15 points, five assists, two steals. He only had two turnovers and he carried a heavy workload. 44 minutes, all the starters. Christian Brown, 43 minutes, Jamal Murray, 42 minutes, yoke 44 minutes. Michael Porter Jr. Who gave them nothing in the second half along with Christian Brown. The they scored zero points between the two of them. Oo and they missed. They were of six I think in the third and the fourth. In the second half Aaron Gordon had 37, played 37 minutes, had 13 points matter. You watch this game and, and, and going into the fourth quarter I, I know the Nuggets were very comfortable because normally the last time they were here in the second game they got blown out and it's like here we are, we got an eight point lead heading into the fourth quarter. We're playing extremely well. But the Thunder got a gear that they can get to and I don't know if the, if the Nuggets are not hitting on all cylinders, they can get to that level. What do what impressed you the most about what you saw from OKC tonight?
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Metta World Peace
Well, you know okc, I always had them winning. I definitely had SGA as mvp. I do like the Joker. I mean when you win 68 games and the next team is in their 50s, I don't even know how many games a different one. The MVP's usually on that team and they have a really balanced team. They all play defense. And I think Joker is probably going to be kicking himself in the butt. Meaning he should be doing a little bit more sprints, right? Like, because if he's going to play 44 minutes in the playoffs and sometimes if you look at the game, it's too easy. So sometimes if it's too easy, you're not doing those extra sprints because you're already getting 40 and 20 anyway.
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Shannon Sharpe
Right.
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Metta World Peace
And these are those games where you need to close out the extra, the extra defensive slide, the extra drive. And I think if Joker was in a little bit better shape, he pulls out this game by himself, but he did a lot.
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Shannon Sharpe
Ocho, you watching this game and you see the Nuggets, they played extremely well for, for three quarters they played really well. Then they get outscored 34 to 19 in the fourth quarter. Jokic was doing all he could. Murray had 28, but it was a very inefficient 28. He had 27 shots to get it. He was three or 13 from the three point line. Christian Brown 43 minutes, three of 12 from the field, two of eight from the two three point line. Michael Porter Jr. Had played 29 minutes. He was one of seven from the field. He was 05 from the three point line. You can't play that many minutes and only have two points. Christian Brown had eight points in the first half, none in the second half. They got no contribution. And when you get that kind of contribution, they had six guys in double figures. OKC did. When you watch this game and you see late in the game the two big guns, Shay Gilders and Jalen Williams, take this game over, what impressed you most about what you saw from okc? Ocho?
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Hey, honestly, I really think it came down to fatigue, huh? Both teams lean very heavy, very heavy on their starters. Obviously. Obviously sold. Because of the playoffs and the severity and the meaning of and the importance of this game, OKC rotated they players in short spurts where they only had really one player over 24 minutes. You look at Denver, they have four players that played over 37 minutes. And obviously when it came to those last five minutes of the game, you know, when it was time to, you know, to close out or they were switching late, it showed. Listen, Joker did what he could do. He just, he just looked tired. But even when he is tired, he still show up to the party.
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Shannon Sharpe
Still give you work, man.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
He still give you that work, man? I don't know. What bro? Michael Porter Jr. I don't know. I don't know. Porter. Michael Porter Jr.
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Shannon Sharpe
Right. Yeah, man.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
What young bull out there doing, man?
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Shannon Sharpe
Nothing. Getting cardio in. He has a sprained left AC joint. Oh, so he had. If we've ever had those, we know that's very painful. But if you can't get the job meta at some point in time, if you can't get the job done, you say, coach, I just can't get it done because you not being a threat now, you allow them to load up on Yoke, you allow them to load up on Murray because they don't view you as a scoring threat. So now if you're not a threat, you, you are no good to your team because now they can go 2 on 2, 2 on 1, 2 on 1. They can load up on yolk and you see, that's what happened later in the ball game because yeah, he hit a fade away 3 that. I don't know how that ball went in, but it did go in. But Porter and Brown are going to have to give them more if they want to get, get back and come back to OKC for game seven. What do you think they need to do in order to win on Thursday night in Denver to make sure they have a Game 7? I think Saturday or Sunday, probably a.
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Metta World Peace
Lot, a lot more body movement. You know, the Joker had five assists. That's not normal. I think he needs to have 10 assists, you know, for them to, they can't make shots.
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Shannon Sharpe
Mana, you know, in order to get assist, they gotta, gotta put the ball in the basket.
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Metta World Peace
And that's true. On the flip side, they gotta put the ball in the basket.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
That's true.
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Metta World Peace
And you know, Joker probably took it on, you know, took it upon himself. But, you know, I feel like he's not in the 10 assist range. And I think that's gonna be difficult. Like, like you said, it's gonna fall on the players. They're gonna have to step it up.
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Shannon Sharpe
Cause I'm looking at Jamal Murray. Think about it. He had 28 points. It took him 27 shots.
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Metta World Peace
Yeah, that's not.
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Shannon Sharpe
Christian Brown had eight points, but he had 12 shots. Michael Porter Jr. Had two points. He had seven shots. So. And he was on five. So Christian Brown and Michael Porter Jr. They were two of 13 from the three. And so look, the thing is that you have to have. If I'm playing the Denver Nuggets, what am I going to do? Am I going to make Jokic a score or I'm going to let him be a facilitator, but I can't let him do both, because if he's doing both, it's going to be hard for you to beat him. Now, like you said, if he had 44 points and 10, 12 assists, where they win this game. But that means players are making shots because it'd be interesting to see how many potential assists he could have had had guys made those shots. And that's the difference in this ball game. Because late in the fourth, in the fourth quarter, when it got time, they made their shots, OKC made their shots. And that's why you got six guys in double figures. And you look at the rotation, the Nuggets are playing eight guys. OKC are playing 10 guys. You see the difference. They're 18 minutes, 11 minutes even. Isaiah Joe only played five. Caruso gave you 24 minutes. Jalen Williams gave you 10 minutes. Lou Dor gave you 28. Gave you 28 minutes. And then your big guns. Gil just had 39, 33 for Hardenstein. Jalen Williams had 38, and Chet Holren had 34. But that's what you have to have in situations like this, Ocho. You got to have your big guns to go.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Hey, hey. But that got. Damn. Lou Dork when he hit them three threes back to back to back. Jaden Williams. Hey, everybody. Collectively, as a group, they played very well offensively, in transition, on both ends of the floor, defensively. I think, honestly, Meta and Uncle, I really want to ask you, based on the way they perform tonight, the way the Thunder performed tonight, what are the chances you have them winning a chip this year even though they young?
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Shannon Sharpe
Well, damn. Can we get out of this series first or get out of Western Conference?
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I really. I really. Listen, I don't mean no disrespect, but I really think this series is over. I think this series.
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Shannon Sharpe
I don't think it's over. I think it's going seven.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
What?
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Shannon Sharpe
I think it's going seven.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
You think the Thunder gonna let it seven?
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Metta World Peace
I can see it going seven with. Cause, you know, the joke is a different. He had different beats. You know, he got two games away. That's how he looking at it now. I didn't necessarily think the Pacers was gonna be like a number one seed or beating a number one seed. I knew it was going to be good. But, you know, all the other teams are stacked. Giannis sga.
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Shannon Sharpe
Right.
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Metta World Peace
And so, you know, I think the paces are coming out the East. And so I did have sj. I did have OKC winning. Right. I did have them favored to win this year. So I'm just going to be honest. I did have them favored to win, but they go. If they go up against Indiana, you know how that go. I'm facing town.
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Shannon Sharpe
I totally get that. I. I think that. Look, Peyton Watson, I mean, guys were bad. I mean, the. The reserves came in, they hit three shots. They're three or 15. Peyton Watson was one of four. Russ was one of seven. STR was straighter. Straither was one or two. I mean, one of. Yeah, one or two. So that's three or 13 shots. That's not good enough.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
No, that.
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Shannon Sharpe
That's. That's not nearly good enough. When you look at what they got, what they got out of their bench, they got 15, 18. They got 22. You gave them 10. They got 22. So the thing is, is that it's Hard for Yoke.
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Metta World Peace
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
And that's the thing about the playoffs. It's really hard for your big guys to get a rest because the game get away from you just like that. They take Yolk out and they take Murray out and gone. Now OKC goes on a run and that's really. That's really hard. But you know, Yoke knows he's going to have to probably play another 44, 45. He might have to play 46 minutes in order for them to have a chance, but they're going to have to shoot the ball better. 13 to 46 won't get it done. You shooting under 30% from the three and you taking that many. Yeah, nah, they need to be in the third. They need to be somewhere between 35 and 38% if they going to shoot that many threes.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
And they got to help too. You got. You got to have something from the bench.
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Shannon Sharpe
Huh?
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Something from the bench. Got to have. And the thing about it is, you know, Russell Westbrook at times, you know, he's up and down. So he had a. He had a. Somewhat of a bad game tonight. I doubt he has a repeat performance of that. You know, come. Come next game because obviously you're back against the wall. You don't have a choice but to win this next game. Yeah, I think he gonna show up, he gonna deliver. Yoker Joker gonna be Joker no matter what. And MPJ gotta show up Michael Porter, whether you heard it or.
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Metta World Peace
I think they gotta, you know, they gotta drive the ball too sometimes that shot not falling, you gotta. If you look at the pace of game when they won, it was down seven and Hallenberg hit that layup, it was down seven, 45 seconds. And what the Halliburton started doing, he started driving. And actually, even in the first quarter, they were actually down that game. And then when a young fella, McConnell got in the game, he started driving the ball to the basket. Once he started driving the ball to the basket changed the whole game. You see what I'm saying? And I think sometimes guys is afraid to use that extra energy to, you know, to, to get to the teeth of the defense. Does that make sense?
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, it does. But you look at. That's not. That's not Michael Porter Jr. He's basically who. He's a wing player. He's using the catch and shoot, things like that. He's not looking to put the ball on the floor. Obviously, Murray will put the ball on the floor. Christian Brown can drive the ball, Gordon can drive the ball. Yoke can do some of everything. But that's. I mean, other than Russ, we talked about this at the beginning of the series. You got to ride the Russ roller coaster. I mean, you're going to get a game where he gives you 17 points and six rebounds and five assists, but you're also going to have a game where he plays like this and he's not efficient and he's going to turn the ball over. You have to accept everything that comes along, the good, the bad, the ugly and the indifferent. That's who Russell Westbrook is. That's basically what he had been his entire career. Yeah, he can give you 30, but he can have a double, he can have a trip dub, but he probably going to have seven to eight assists that comes along with it. We. Okay, we're understanding that now. We know where we are. We know what we. We hope. We know what we're going to get from Russia. This. But the other guys. I need Murray to be a little bit more efficient. I need Christian Brown to give me more than what he gave me tonight. Michael Porter Jr. Two points won't get it. You cannot play 29 minutes and give the team 10. Two points. That will not cut it. Two points, four rebounds, two assists. Not nearly enough. That's not nearly enough against this team. Maybe a. Maybe against the Clippers. That was good. And if you go back and look at how he played in game three, he was great. Yeah, he was great in game three. He was one of the reasons that they won. But this effort that they did, that. Go ahead. Go ahead. Bella.
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Metta World Peace
I was gonna say thanks for having me on nightcap. I gotta catch this connecting flight.
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Shannon Sharpe
I'm over here.
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Metta World Peace
I'm in Dubai.
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Shannon Sharpe
You're in where? Dubai.
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Metta World Peace
I just left Saudi. Now I'm in connecting Dubai, coming back to la. You know, they told me I'd get on the nightcap. I was like, man, I gotta get on a nightcap. But I want to say honor to be on Nightcap. I love everything you're doing in media, Chad. You already know. So good to see.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yes, sir.
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Metta World Peace
Have me again. I would love to come back on a nightcap.
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Shannon Sharpe
Absolutely. Appreciate you stopping by for a few moments. A few moments. Metal. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. Go catch that flight. Thank you.
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Metta World Peace
My guys.
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Shannon Sharpe
All right, bro. Yeah. OJO Look.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
34 to 19. They got outscored. They were up by eight. They lose by seven. And you think about it, they scored 28. 28. 30. And then they dipped to 19. That was not the quarter that you wanted to have your lowest Scoring output. Give OKC credit. They're a great defensive team. They switch everything. They can guard. You got Jalen Williams that can guard, Lou Dornt that can guard. Even when they come in, Caruso can guard, Wiggins can guard, Wallace can guard, Joe can guard. They do a great job. Chad Holmgren and Isaiah Hartenstein doing a great job of protecting the painting. Shea is great at deflecting, deflect, getting deflections and stealing the ball. So they're. They're a very good defensive team. I don't want to take anything away from them, but I do think that Michael Porter, he. He and Christian Bronze are going to have to play better if they want to force a game seven and come back to okc.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I mean, do. Do you make a coaching change? I mean, does the coach make a change? And with Michael Porter Jr. Really not giving you anything, do you have somebody else play?
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Shannon Sharpe
Well, remember I said I. And. And Joe said he. You and Joe said, you don't want to mess up that and take the. The production that Russ gives you off the bench. I made recommendation a couple of days ago, remember?
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I mean, at this point, you. You definitely got to do it. Back against the wall. You. You. You gonna go home one or the other. If he's that. If he's that injured, hell, you can have Russell there. Russ can give you, what, two points?
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Shannon Sharpe
I mean, Russ gave you four. Russ gave you four in 20 minutes. But guys just got to be better. Guys got to be better. I mean, the bench for the. The Nuggets were 2 of 8 from the 3. That ain't good enough. That's not good enough. But OKC is one win away from advancing to the Western Conference finals. And thanks to a 112105 victory over Denver, Game 6 is back in Denver on Thursday. Great balance scoring from the Thunder six players in double figures, led by what we presume will be the MVP, Shea Gilgis. He has 31 points, six rebounds, seven assists, two steals, two blocks, and they win 112 to 105.
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Shannon Sharpe
Tyrese Halliburton leads the Pacers to their second straight Eastern Conference Final. 31 points, 8 assists, 6 rebounds. 10 of 15 from the floor, 6 of 10 from the 3 point. I think in the second quarter. That's what did it. They were down by a minute and 19. And then Halle hits like four or five threes flipped the momentum. He drove the basketball. He was sensational. He won this game for him and everybody. I don't want to take anything away from anybody because I thought niece Smith played well. Nemhard played well. Siakam again. Ocho.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Siakam. 21 points. Nice. Smith, 13 points, 13 rebounds. Miles Turner, 10 points, seven rebounds. Nemhardt, 18 points. Halleck was sensational. Plus 27 the highest. Plus minus. They shot 50% from the floor. They shot 43% from the three point line. And they win this game. They go on the road three games. All three games in the number one seed building. They won the ball game and they won it in clutch situations, playing great. Halle was putting the ball on the floor, getting to the basket or he was shooting that rainbow three that was splashing nothing but net. Evan Mobley played great again tonight. He was 8 or 12, 24 points, 11 rebounds. You got 11 points. Darius Garland, he still nicked up 4:16,06 from the three. He had 11 points. 11 points. Excuse me. Donovan Mitchell played 38 minutes, 8:25 from the floor, 4:13 from 3:15 to 21 from the free throw line, 35 points. I thought what really hurt them.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Is that Donovan got filed on a three point shot and he missed all three of them. Ocho. Yeah, he missed all three of them. Max Drew got great cardio and he didn't give you no points tonight. 0 of 9, 0 of 6, no free throws. It's vast.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
At some point, at some point in time, now we gotta start holding Donovan Mitchell accountable. Now we say he's a superstar and he has yet to get past the second round. Now he was. They won 64 games this year. Very similar situation in Utah. At what point in time do we say, all right, Donovan?
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
All these acrobatics and 70 points. And 57 points in a playoff game. And 50 points in a playoff game. At some point in time, we. We need to see that progress and you move on to the next round. Go ahead.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I mean, hell, Cleveland. Cleveland just shot 38%, man. Un. From the field at night. They were 25% from three. Hell, they had 23 fouls, 11 turnovers. I mean, it took. It took. It took. Goddamn. Donovan Mitchell. He had 35 points. He was 8 for 25.
- [25:55]
Shannon Sharpe
It took 25 shots to get.
- [25:57]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
It took a lot of shots to even get it. And obviously, the inconsistencies with scoring and poor shooting from the perimeter, it killed any momentum for them or a chance at a comeback. Regardless, the goddamn pace is the goddamn pace of everybody in double figures.
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Shannon Sharpe
That's how they do it by committee.
- [26:15]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Everybody in double figures and everybody contributing. So, I mean, you know, no disrespect to brother, to brother's daughter, to Mission, but he can. He can only do so. He can only do so much. And obviously Darius Garland is hurt. You know, it's evident. You can tell. But, you know, without. Without. Without a full roster, there's really no way they going to play. I call it. I call them the four by one team because that's what they do. They run up and down the court like, damn, four by one, huh?
- [26:42]
Shannon Sharpe
They're looking to push the ball, make or miss. They'll take it out the net or they'll take it out of bounds, but they're looking to push the tempo. And they were doing a great job because they want to keep the ball out of Halliburton's hand because he's the point guard. I mean, he's the guy that's looking to push the tempo. But they did a great job. But he got it going in the second quarter, and I think he had like 15. 15, maybe 15, 17 points in the second quarter alone. I think it was 15. I think he had 15 the second quarter, and I think they were all made threes, and he was sensational. He got it going, and then once he got it going, they settled in. It's like. And I think the thing was, is that once Cleveland couldn't blow them out, they couldn't get any more separation. Ocho, he's like, man, we were up by 8, 19. We had the crowd into the building, and here they are, they're still standing. We just hit them with our best. We hit them with flurry that lasted about 10 minutes, and they're still standing. Oh, oh. LeBron James tweeted Halle effing hooping. Where's the lames who said he was overrated? Quiet as hell, that boy. Nice. Even more someone everyone would love to play with mind the game pod. Tyrese Halberg was voted most overrated player. Most overrated by the players. And now he's on his way to his second straight conference finals. I think if I'm not mistaken, they are the first four or lower seed to make back to back conference finals ever, right?
- [28:09]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
That's right.
- [28:10]
Shannon Sharpe
What do you think it is the reason why he's received so much hate?
- [28:15]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I don't even think honestly when it comes to this. If you ask all the players in the NBA, I guarantee you none of them voted. I guarantee you none of them actually voted for this. And it's something that's construed.
- [28:26]
Shannon Sharpe
It's a players poll, Ocho. That's like saying, let me ask you a question. So the NFL, when they say the top rated 100 players, you think they vote?
- [28:34]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Hold on. We ain't talking about the NFL.
- [28:36]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm just asking players. So if they don't vote for this, they're not voting in the NFL, Correct. Or when the baseball have a poll, who's the best player, they vote.
- [28:44]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I don't remember ever voting. Did you vote? Because I don't.
- [28:46]
Shannon Sharpe
You didn't have that poll. Did they have that? Did they have that when you voted when you played?
- [28:50]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I have no idea.
- [28:51]
Shannon Sharpe
How about how far did the top 100 go back? I think it goes back probably like 2012, 2013.
- [28:58]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Oh, for real? Yeah, I just, I, I just. Because if you add, if you ask NBA players about this boat stuff, you ask me if they voting, of course they're not gonna.
- [29:06]
Shannon Sharpe
Don't attach their name to it. Cause they smiling in the man face.
- [29:11]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Oh, okay. I see, I see what you mean.
- [29:13]
Shannon Sharpe
You think I'm gonna say, yeah, I voted him most overrated?
- [29:16]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I just doubt it, man. I just think it's something, I think it's something that, that, that.
- [29:20]
Shannon Sharpe
Let me ask you a question. Well, how did they come up with his name of all the players? There are 450 players in the NBA. 30 team, 15 players.
- [29:28]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Listen, you notice they picked the top dogs, right? They picked the top dogs. So he's a top dog. I think it's just his game is not pretty. It's not aesthetically pleasing to most.
- [29:38]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, we'll say that that's why they said he's overrated. But let's not be disingenuous to say that the players didn't vote. They voted.
- [29:45]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I don't think they did. I'm just being honest with you. He can't be as good as he's been all season.
- [29:50]
Shannon Sharpe
Long.
- [29:50]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
And all of a sudden, some players in the NBA that respect each other, unless it's a personal issue, are going to say, oh, he's overrated. Absolutely. It's the fucking name. Oh, my bad. It's the NBA. It's the NBA, for one. And you respect the player that's as good as he is and has done what he's done.
- [30:06]
Shannon Sharpe
But the problem that you have run into Ocho, a lot of players are comparing him to who? Point guard Steph Curry. Who's another point guard Shay Gilgis, who's another point guard Luka Doncic. So when you.
- [30:17]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Okay, I like that you just said that comparison, like I always say, is the thief of joy.
- [30:22]
Shannon Sharpe
Right, right.
- [30:22]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Okay. You comparison him to Steph and SJ and all these other point guards where you wouldn't. You wouldn't say he's overrated. You'd just say, he's not as good as them. Everybody just name him.
- [30:32]
Shannon Sharpe
Aesthetically pleasing.
- [30:33]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Look at Shay's game. SGA game. Smooth as goddamn butter. Got all the little kids, little infants, can't even walk yet. They shooting threes.
- [30:45]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [30:45]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
So it's different. Halliburton, you know, his shot. Look like Shawn Marion, you know, it's not pretty. Look like Horace Grant when he shoot. I mean, it's just what it is. But he gets the job done.
- [30:55]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [30:56]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
In not a beautiful way. It's like. It's like you see a woman, right? You see a nice woman, Shay, you know, she's cute, and all of a sudden she turned around, it's like, ah. And not what you thought it was.
- [31:09]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [31:10]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
But it gets the job done.
- [31:12]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [31:13]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
You know what I mean?
- [31:13]
Shannon Sharpe
I know what you mean.
- [31:15]
Metta World Peace
Yeah.
- [31:15]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah.
- [31:16]
Shannon Sharpe
But I. But I think. I think the thing is, for me, I do believe. Look, Ocho.
- [31:22]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah.
- [31:22]
Shannon Sharpe
There's a reason why when you vote, you go into a booth so nobody else knows what you're doing. Yeah.
- [31:27]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I don't like that. We need to get rid of that. Oh, my bad. I keep cursing. We need to get rid of it.
- [31:31]
Shannon Sharpe
Look at that big guy. I mean, Tyrese Halliburton got Rudy Gobert, Trae Young, Jimmy Butler, Bradley Beal, Draymond Ja Jewel Randall, Embiid, Giannis, Dillon Brooks, Paul George, Tyler Herro. All these guys were on there.
- [31:51]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
That's. Man, I just.
- [31:52]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know. No one who reached the NBA is overrated.
- [31:55]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
True.
- [31:56]
Shannon Sharpe
Because what are you, basic? Because, I mean, if you're in the league, obviously, there's level to everything. Everybody that works at a Fortune 500 company isn't the CEO, there's not the CFO, they're not the COO. So obviously there's levels to it. And I think that's the thing is that you're thinking, like I said, but every one of the players that's on this list has the ability to make players that didn't make this list look foolish.
- [32:24]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Bingo.
- [32:24]
Shannon Sharpe
In the NFL, the worst player on his best day can make the best player on his worst day look bad.
- [32:31]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Absolutely.
- [32:32]
Shannon Sharpe
That's the NFL. That's, that's, that's NBA, that's mlb. The best pitcher can go out there and pitch six, seven, eight shutout innings. But then the best pitcher, excuse me, the worst Pitcher can pitch 7, 8 shutout innings. The best pitcher can go out there and pitch a third of an inning and gave up eight hit, gave up eight hit five runs and he's gotten pulled. So when you look at it, they're all professionals.
- [33:00]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah.
- [33:00]
Shannon Sharpe
In any, in any profession, professional can make another professional in said profession look foolish.
- [33:06]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
And you know what I think, especially when it comes to the 1%, NBA, NHL, NFL. I think the thing that separates all of the players is consistency.
- [33:17]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, for sure.
- [33:18]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Whoever can do it at a consistent level for a very long period of time. Some, some people are inconsistent with it. They can do it on one night but can't do it on the other.
- [33:27]
Shannon Sharpe
Correct.
- [33:28]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
They're consistently just really, really good and really never fall up underneath that medium of God damn, what the hell was that? It's just always good and then sometimes it's great.
- [33:40]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, but you do realize, like, to be great is boring because you're doing the same thing over and over, over.
- [33:50]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
And over and over.
- [33:51]
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, what do you think? What do you think? You think Steph Curry going to the gym and kicking the ball in the hoop? No. He's shooting threes over and over and over and over again. And he's warming up the same way over and over and over again. And LeBron James is doing the same thing over and over and over again. And Tiger did the same thing. And people like, that's boring. Greatness is very monotonous.
- [34:15]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [34:17]
Shannon Sharpe
Because you going and doing it over and over. It's the repetition. And so you don't do it so you can get it right. You do it until you can't get it wrong. And that's what great. That's what great. Tom Brady did the same thing for 20 plus years and he probably saved. I mean, he enjoyed doing it, but it was boring because he's Watching film. He's going out there, he's getting his band, he's getting his body loose, and he's throwing outs, and he's throwing sticks and he's throwing go balls, and he's throwing overs, and he's throwing flat routes and he's throwing post routes. He's doing that every single day.
- [34:51]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
And the funny thing about it, too is you talk about people that are great and great at what they do, and it's not even just sports. Huh? It's not even just sports.
- [34:59]
Shannon Sharpe
No, no, no, no, no.
- [35:01]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
It's things that people can apply to their everyday life. But the hard part about it is nobody wants to continue to do the same thing over and over, let alone have the discipline to do it consistently until they become great at something, whatever it may be. Shortcuts. How can I get to my end goal faster? How can I get to my end goal faster? Never really wanting to put the work in, but wanting the end result right away.
- [35:28]
Shannon Sharpe
Because we can get a microwave.
- [35:30]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Hey, it never lasts, huh?
- [35:32]
Shannon Sharpe
We're the microwave society, Ocho. Because what I can do, I can stick it in the microwave for a minute and it's done. I ain't got to put it on the stove. I ain't got to watch it. It ain't got to simmer. I ain't got to go back and check it. I just put, hey.
- [35:45]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Hey. But listen, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter because anything it has instant gratification is not sustainable at all. It's like a one hit wonder. It's like a one hit wonder.
- [36:00]
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, you know what? I wish we could have a Beyonce. Somebody that's been great for an extended period of time. Beyonce. I mean, what did you do? Cause all you hear is about how hard she worked. She knows what she wants. She goes in the studio and she says, okay, I got it. And she does this over and over, over and over, over and over, over and over. All the Grace did it. And people like, man, how you eat the same thing. Because I want the same result. I don't expect. I don't expect. I don't expect anything different. You think LeBron James expect anything different than the greatness that he's displayed for 22 years? You think Tom Brady expected something different from the greatness that he displayed throughout his NFL career once he got. Once he got in there? Of course not. That's why he did what he did. And you try to find ways to improve upon that. Tom didn't always do the TB12 method. He found somebody's like, okay, I'll try it. He has success. He never left it. LeBron got Mike Macias. Jordan got Tim Grover. Kobe had Grover. Boom. And so it is. It is. A greatness requires a. Not a commitment, but a singular focus. A singular focus. Jordan didn't have no race car team. He didn't have all this stuff while he played. Kobe didn't have all these. Kobe was not trying to win no Oscar while he played. He had a singular focus. The greats have a singular focus now. They've branched off now. And when you see guys trying to build their brand, and that's fine, but you have to, like. I think you get to a certain point, you're like, well. And I don't really know how much of they're doing is that. Cause, like, let's take LeBron, for example. He's made Savannah's like, I've always wanted to be a housewife. I want to support my husband. I want him to be the best at what he can do. I want do does. I got this at home. Don't you worry about Bronnie. Don't you worry about Bryce. Don't you worry about Zuri. I got this. You handle that, okay? Now he has other endeavors. Maverick, you handle that. Rich, Paul, you handle this. Randy, you run the day to day. You make sure I get from point A to point B, wherever we need to be. Boom, boom, boom, boom. He focuses on what he focuses on. You see, everything is for LeBron. All LeBron do is come down and eat. Hey, Savannah might hand him his jacket or something. He out the door into the. He got a driver. He ain't driving. I told him one time, hey, I saw him driving. I hit him up. I said, bro, hell, I ain't even know you have driver's license. I ain't never seen you drive before. He sent me the motion back, laughing. I like, damn, bro, you can drive. You got driver's license. He's like, yeah, I could drive. But. But greatness, it requires all encompassing.
- [39:00]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah.
- [39:01]
Shannon Sharpe
And that's why most people think people that are great, they're at their. You know what? They got total vision. But if you notice, you ever seen penguins and pigeons hanging? Birds of a feather flock together. You don't see penguins and pigeons hanging. Penguins hang with penguins. Pigeons hang with pigeons. Eagles hang with eagles. Hawks hang with hawks. That's why you see people of a certain status. Because you know why? Brian Billick once told me, he said, shay, you know why movie stars marry other movie stars? I'M like, I don't know, maybe don't have said that he said. Because the other know what it's like to live in that world. They know what it's like to jump in and out of character where they have to go lock in for six months and be something. And then all of a sudden, so now when I'm irritable and I'm moody, guess what? My partner did the same thing just last year. So I know what he's going through. She knows what I'm going through.
- [40:03]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I can relate to it.
- [40:04]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I can relate. Relatability makes sense. It makes sense. But Halle put on a show tonight. He was sensational. And they won this game. Clutch situation. They've been great all game long. I mean you look at two games, Cleveland probably kicking themselves in the butt. Had it, had it won and they came back and lost and Indiana came back and took both games. Could we get a rematch of the semifinals of last year in the Eastern Conference? Knicks Pacers Pacers go into the new msg. Win a game seven. It's going to be very interesting. I think Brunson got nicked last year, but he's full go now. This is going to be a great look. I don't want to put the car before the horse, but I do believe at some point in time the New York Knicks are going to advance to the Eastern Conference finals where they'll face the Indiana Pacers. That's what I do believe and I think it's going to be a great. It's going to be a great series.
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- [43:33]
Shannon Sharpe
Steph Curry is officially out for game five in Minnesota. That means Golden State, trailing in the series three one will face elimination without their best. Without their best player. Does Golden State win this game tomorrow?
- [43:47]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I think they weigh the white flag. Honestly I'm. I just honestly think that. I mean I think they wave the right flag. I don't think they have a chance of winning the game without Steph. If they do have a chance, we're going to need Jimmy Butler to be Jimmy Butler. We need him to be playoff Jimmy.
- [44:03]
Shannon Sharpe
Correct.
- [44:04]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
We need Buddy Hill to be Buddy Hill that we saw score 30. I forgot what night that was. He got to come out. He got to have an out of body experience, you know.
- [44:12]
Shannon Sharpe
No, you got to have that game, that game seven in Houston where he scored 33. And then he came back the first game, and I think the first game this series when Steph got hurt, he dropped 22.
- [44:21]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah, he gonna, he's gonna have to add something like that. So if anything, it's gonna be a two headed muscle from Jimmy and Buddy, if they're even gonna contend and make it a game in general. If not, you know what? The fat lady might as well start singing. I don't know what song she gonna sing, but she might well start singing.
- [44:39]
Shannon Sharpe
I think the thing is though, man, Ant man, he get you down, bro. He don't let you up. He, he from the South. He hear, he knows that old saying, killing that with a sledgehammer. Oh, yeah, don't wave at him and shoo him and hope he don't come back. When you see him right there, you get your sledgehammer, you hammer his ass. You make sure. Bro, that's overkill. No, it ain't. And that's how Ant man is. He got. He had an opportunity to dispatch Book and kd and he did it. He had an opportunity to dispatch Yoke and Murray, and he did it. He had an opportunity to Dispatch Luka and LeBron, and he did it. Now he's going to do. I believe they're going to win. Steph got hurt, but it's going to be a nice pelt on his, on his wall. Yeah, I mean, he got. Hey, if you know anything about hunting, I'm not a hunter anymore, but hey, they like trophies and so they go. You know, they try to go into Africa and they try to catch, try to get the big seven, the Cape buffalo, a lion or leopard.
- [45:35]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah.
- [45:36]
Shannon Sharpe
And whatever the case may be, and they put it on his wall. That's what he's going for. He a big game hunter. And normally, hey, when he sets his target on something, when he sets his sight on something.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I like it.
- [45:51]
Shannon Sharpe
You don't miss.
- [45:53]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I like it.
- [45:53]
Shannon Sharpe
You don't miss. It's very unfortunate. And you see what's happening. It's a war with Trisha. That's what it comes down to. Injuries. You see Steph get injured. Donovan Mitchell got nicked. Jason Tatum is out.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Mm.
- [46:11]
Shannon Sharpe
Ain't nobody feeling sorry for you. They're not.
- [46:17]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Hey, it's unfortunate.
- [46:19]
Shannon Sharpe
Unfortunate. And sometimes when it gets down to this, it's a war of attrition. Ocho. Who can, who is the healthiest? Who can stay the healthiest the longest?
- [46:31]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
That's what it comes down to actually, in any sport.
- [46:33]
Shannon Sharpe
Huh?
- [46:33]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Now we ain't even talking Basketball, Whether it be football, NHL. No, baseball, especially your most important players, your Steph Curry Tatums, you know, they give you a chance. Just having them makes you. Makes your job easy. Now contribute.
- [46:50]
Shannon Sharpe
Yep.
- [46:51]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Do that part.
- [46:52]
Shannon Sharpe
And when you mentioned. You said play out. Jimmy needs to show up. Even if he shows up, he gonna need one more person to come along with him.
- [46:59]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah, that's why I said it got to be Buddy. It gotta be Buddy.
- [47:04]
Shannon Sharpe
Maybe it's Kaminga. Hold on.
- [47:06]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I forgot about Kaminga. He didn't have two games. He took his games back to back.
- [47:11]
Shannon Sharpe
They got wasted because, you know, hey, Drew Randall and Ant man, you know, they. What they gonna give you.
- [47:19]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah.
- [47:20]
Shannon Sharpe
So one. Jimmy cannot. Cannot duel both of them. So somebody. Buddy Kamingo, somebody. Pause. Is due for a game. Brzimski. He hadn't played. He hadn't played well. I'm not. Breaking news. I'm not interrupting your normally scheduled programming to tell you this. He hasn't played well. He's gonna have to play better if they're gonna have a chance to win this ball game.
- [47:42]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah.
- [47:42]
Shannon Sharpe
So they got their work cut out for him tomorrow. I mean, they would love to be in a situation, but at this point in time, even if they win game five, I ain't bringing Steph back. I'm not gonna run the risk of hurting that man.
- [47:54]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
That's right. That's why I said they wave the white flag. It's no need. There's no need. Especially being down 3 1. There's no need to bring him back and put him through that and making him exert that kind of energy to even get us back in this series.
- [48:07]
Shannon Sharpe
Get healthy.
- [48:08]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah.
- [48:08]
Shannon Sharpe
Get ready to enjoy your off season. Step. Take you about two weeks. Two. Two weeks. A month off. Go on vacation. You and Aisha. Take the kids on. Go on vacation somewhere. Relax. Don't even worry about it. Check back in when you get back in them and the first of July.
- [48:26]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah.
- [48:29]
Shannon Sharpe
According to ESPN Tim's McMahon, the Mavs won't trade the number one pick. The Mavs plan to select Duke forwards Cooper Flag and will not entertain the possibility of trading away the pick for a proven superstar.
- [48:44]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yes. There's no need. There's no need. Especially not them. You want to piss the fans off more? Do you want to piss them off even more? I'm not sure there are superstars that you would trade them for, but it is. I mean, Giannis. Giannis is a good one, but I still. I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't do it. I like the fact of having Kyrie coming back healthy, you got 80 like Cooper Flag. Let's see what they could become before we think about going to get Giannis. And I already told Giannis going to Miami, but that's neither here nor there.
- [49:17]
Shannon Sharpe
Rich Paul also says Cooper Flag going number one overall to Dallas will allow him to develop on a reasonable timeline as a rookie. I agree. I think the thing is, it would be more reasonable had Kyrie not gotten nicked. Well, if Kyrie hadn't gotten nicked, they wouldn't be in this situation to select him. So that's neither here nor there. But I think he might have to pick up that a little sooner because Kyrie's probably not going to come back until January of 26 because he's coming come and suffer that knee injury. So him ad they got some. I mean, when you're the number one pick, OJo expectations are there. I don't care how long. You can say, okay, a year, two years, three years. But the expectations are, you're the number one pick. Excuse me. And when you're the number one pick, the expectation, you're supposed to be franchise altering. You're supposed to be generational. You're supposed to be damn near transcendent.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
You don't think that.
- [50:13]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know, but I'm saying, right. I mean, when you think about it, ain't nobody say, oh, LeBron gonna be able to develop on his own timeline. Shaq will be able to develop on his own timeline. Kareem will be able to. Magic will be. That is not what they said, Allen. I gonna be able to develop on his own timeline. Ad will be able to develop on his own timeline. That's not what they said. So it's gonna be. Yeah, No, I think he can play. I think he's sensational. Oh, yeah, Yeah. I mean, he's a big kid, can shoot the ball, can put the ball on the floor. He gave the US Team all they can handle when they was getting ready, gearing up for the Olympics. Oh, he's going against NBA talent. He's played at an elite program. He knows the expectations. When you play out that program, you're number one overall. So nothing is going to surprise him. Like, man, I ain't know they expected that from me. Yeah, you're number one overall pick, and when you're low on overall pick, they have lofty, lofty, lofty expectations.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah.
- [51:15]
Shannon Sharpe
And. And I, I believe he. I believe he can reach him. I do.
- [51:19]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah. I think he gonna be all right. He gonna Be all right. Shoot. He's always. He's always been that guy for a very long time. And just obviously his childhood dream is making it to the NBA, being the number one overall pick. I don't think there's any pressure on him. At the end of the day, it's still basketball, and he's been playing and you've been doing it real well for a very long time. So this is what you wanted. Now you got.
- [51:41]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. You got to show why you number one overall. Yeah, it's just like in any sport. You got to show. I need to see why you number one pick. I got to see why you the first round draft pick. I got to see why you won the Thorpe Award or the player of the year, the Heisman Trophy, whatever the award is. Don't you. We need to see it now.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah.
- [51:58]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. I see why you won that award, boy. Okay, you got that? You like that? Okay, we good? Cause, you know, the coach go, hey, what you think about the draft pick? He can play. He gonna be good. I mean, once he figured out. Right now, he. You can see he processing it, but once he get it down. Yeah, yeah, he. He could be all right. He gonna be. You won't have to worry about it.
- [52:19]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah. I mean, how many. How many times can you think? You could probably count on two hands, or has it been more than two hands where a player is going number one, and it's been absolutely atrocious in football or basketball? Basketball.
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Shannon Sharpe
Anthony Bennett.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
No, I said absolutely.
- [52:37]
Shannon Sharpe
Like Anthony Bennett, he was out of the league in a year. Is that atrocious one? Yeah.
- [52:45]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Well, God damn.
- [52:46]
Shannon Sharpe
Thanks. What you asking?
- [52:47]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
What year was this?
- [52:50]
Shannon Sharpe
Like what, the year LeBron left? 2013.
- [52:53]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
He's got to be old, huh?
- [52:54]
Shannon Sharpe
2013. There've been a lot of guys. Ocho, he went number one. Number one.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
He was that good.
- [53:03]
Shannon Sharpe
Good and terrible. He was good enough to go number one and bad enough to be God of the league.
- [53:09]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
It must have. Must have been uphill, though. It had to be something mental.
- [53:12]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know what it was. Who else? Michael Ola. Wakandi Kwame. Greg Oden. Greg Oden was injured.
- [53:22]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah. Greg Owen needs. I remember that.
- [53:24]
Shannon Sharpe
Look, Kwame, I don't think Kwame was bad. He just. For whatever reason, he went to the wrong situation. He went to a situation where Jordan wanted a vet, and Jordan, like, thought you. He should know. And there are things that Kwame didn't know, and there was no one there willing to teach him. Right. And so he didn't get. He didn't get like if he went somewhere now that had that. That had a. Let's just say Kwame had gone to the. The Spurs.
- [53:49]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yes, sir.
- [53:49]
Shannon Sharpe
Where they'll give guys. They'll work with a guy and give you an opportunity to grow. I mean, sometimes you go on the team, Ocho, like you go to the Patriots. The Patriots ain't giving nobody no time to grow. You come in as a first round pick, right? Just issue up and be ready to play.
- [54:04]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Right? That's it.
- [54:05]
Shannon Sharpe
And so I think that was the thing with Kwame. I think he went to the wrong place. He needed to go somewhere where they were going to give the rookie, give a first round pick or a high draft pick an opportunity to mature, to grow. That ain't what Jordan. Jordan like, nah, I ain't got that kind of time, bro. And every. And think about he went where. Then he goes to Kobe, you know, Kobe, you know what Kobe on. He on the same stuff. Jordan on.
- [54:32]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah, that's too back to back.
- [54:35]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. Markel's fault.
- [54:38]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Oh, no. But he bounced back, though. False, right?
- [54:41]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Ocho, you do realize like when you're a number one overall pick, they expect you to be. They expect you to be an all NBA and all stars, right? Oh, yeah. Purvis. He grew up here. I mean, I know Perv personally. He's from Savannah, went to Louisville, led him to the national championship as a freshman. Beat Duke.
- [55:02]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Damn.
- [55:04]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, they call him never nervous. But then he stayed hurt so much, they say out of service purpose, man, you know how they do, man. You know they be giving you dick that. Hey. But yeah, it's just expectations, Ocho. With anything when you go first overall because Ocho ain't but one.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah.
- [55:27]
Shannon Sharpe
You're the first. You number one.
- [55:29]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah.
- [55:30]
Shannon Sharpe
Baseball. You look at a guy like Josh Hamilton, had talent out the yin yang. I watched him in the home run derby at old Yankee Stadium. Hit it out the stadium, huh? But the demons got a hold of him, Ocho. And you know, even though early on he got selected number one overall for the raise, he got. Got tangled up. He got clean, came back, hit 350, won the whole run. The won the MVP. They got him again, Ocho.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah.
- [56:00]
Shannon Sharpe
Now he, you know. Yeah. Yeah.
- [56:04]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Once he get a hold of you, Unk, man.
- [56:07]
Shannon Sharpe
Every day, Ocho. Every day. Think about it, Ocho. You can be sober for 10 years straight. One time you have to drive by a bar, a package store every day for the rest of your life.
- [56:26]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah.
- [56:27]
Shannon Sharpe
Not turn around, not put the blinker on and go Inside every day. You can't be around it.
- [56:36]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah.
- [56:37]
Shannon Sharpe
If you. If. If you were at that. Oh, Joe, you can't, man. You can't go hang on the corner with your boys if you know what they do, right? My girlfriend used to always tell me and my brother, boy, association, bring on. Association brings on assimilation. You hang around people long enough that doing stuff, you would start to do it. Also. It's hard to run in that circle. It's hard to run in that circle where people are doing things that you know aren't right, and then you just walk away. Cause eventually, like, shh, man, this just one time, and that's the time to get you right. It's just that one time that you decide.
- [57:14]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
So birds of a feather do flock together.
- [57:18]
Shannon Sharpe
Penguins and pigeons don't hang. That's what I'm saying. So, you know, a lot of times, Ocho, you know, you with your boy, man. I've been. Man, I've been knowing, man, Be a Ocho, man. We grew up in the sandbox, right? I've been knowing ocho, man. Ocho 163rd and 5th, man. I know. I know. His grandma, his grandma, my grandma go to church together. So it's hard that tie, man, man, Ocho cool, man. Ocho good people.
- [57:42]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah.
- [57:45]
Shannon Sharpe
That's why. Associated with someone long enough, association brings on assimilation.
- [57:53]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
That's a good one. I'm just thinking and just. Just hearing examples just throughout life, you know, just. I'm not even speaking hypothetical. I'm just saying, why you see certain people hanging with certain individuals, and them knowing, well, that ain't your company. That's not the kind of company you need to be keeping because you know that you don't even rock like that, so why you even associated with that?
- [58:15]
Shannon Sharpe
But. Oh, I don't want to turn my back on you, O. I've been knowing you, man. Oh. I've been knowing you all my life.
- [58:21]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Right?
- [58:22]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, we went to church together. I still go. You don't go no more, but I still go.
- [58:31]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Hey, hey.
- [58:33]
Shannon Sharpe
So that's. That's the. That's the problem that people were. What do you hear, Ojo? Yeah, he started hanging with that wrong. That crowd.
- [58:40]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah. Yeah.
- [58:44]
Shannon Sharpe
Ed got it caught up in some. Some foolishness, some bull job that he shouldn't have been in. And all it takes is one. Oh, all it takes is one time. One time.
- [58:54]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
That's how it always happened.
- [58:56]
Shannon Sharpe
That's it. Oh, Chuck. You know, as an athlete, we don't think anything's gonna happen to us. We think we're invincible. We see stuff that happen out there in the real world and say, ain't no way it could never happen to me. I'm proof.
- [59:09]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah.
- [59:10]
Shannon Sharpe
An anonymous player on the Nugget says Russell Westbrook is immature, per Ramona Shelburne. According to Ramona's article, she reported minutes after the Nuggets lost Game 2 in the first round series against the Clippers, Edelman had a problem. While he had been at post game lectern, there had been a heated discussion between Westbrook and Gordon in the locker room. Multiple sources told ESPN Gordon had challenged Westbrook about his attitude. Outside the locker room. One player relayed why Gordon might have done so. He's so immature, he said of Westbrook. First, Russ wife Nina came to defense on ignorance why the Nuggets title hoax might hinge on a volatile player in the NBA. You should be ashamed. Volatile. You should be ashamed for so many reasons. I'll let you decipher them. Jay Williams doesn't want to hear excuses for Nikola Jokic. Oh, this. Who said, oh, this is what she wrote at Ramona shepherd, espn. Dirty work when put on Ramona, how could you share and spread so many lies randomly for no reason and with such conviction? You using his name for clickbait during the playoffs, which is ridiculous. Trust me, I know the facts about every. About literally everything. Normally, I let you guys tell your silly lies in peace. Enough already. Stop with the lies. Go Nuggets.
- [60:31]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Hey, I. You know, players do. Do get into it all the time, you know.
- [60:37]
Shannon Sharpe
They do. They do.
- [60:38]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I'm not sure why. Why is this even. Why is this even? Nudes. Okay. There's a disagreement. Okay, I don't. I don't. I don't like the way you act sometimes. I mean, that's just.
- [60:48]
Shannon Sharpe
That's life.
- [60:49]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
That's for people that have never been a part of a locker room or any type of organized activity. This happens all the goddamn time.
- [60:57]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, leave it lose, huh?
- [61:03]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Hell, I'm sure it was in time. Carson didn't like some of the stuff I did. Coach Lewis didn't like some of the stuff I did. What did they tell me? Hey, well, I don't like that, but I need you to chill a little bit. Big Willie. Big Willie told me, stop talking to the Demons. Alignment and TD timeouts. You don't have to deal with them. Really shouldn't be that big of a deal. I'm just talking. He said, yeah, you talking trash, but we gotta block him.
- [61:30]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, you talking to trash. The people you ain't Gotta block.
- [61:33]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
So, I mean, okay, okay, I get it. There was something that. I mean, it happens. You have, you know, look, riff raffs and. Okay, they got into it. So.
- [61:43]
Shannon Sharpe
What? What? Yeah, I. I've been very fortunate to be in locker rooms where stuff didn't get out. I think now, you know, I don't know if people pillow talk. I don't know.
- [62:01]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Hey, everybody in Chatty Patty, boy, they can't wait. And it's a certain player that knows all the goddamn reporters and always want to leak some stuff.
- [62:10]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [62:10]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Oh, it always come from about somebody inside that. Inside the house.
- [62:14]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, because I. I was. Look, that. That's one thing. How was work? It was work. I mean, what? We practiced. We met. We practice. Oh, such and such. Such and such. Calling says. I said, I don't know nothing about that, and I don't go no further. I know somebody called you and said this, but don't you call somebody else and say that.
- [62:36]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Right.
- [62:37]
Shannon Sharpe
Because I don't want that ish coming up. Because at the end of the day, you are a representation of me. Keep your mouth closed. What somebody else got going on, that ain't got ish to do with you. You worry about this house, all that other stuff that's going on out there, that ain't got nothing to do with you. What did you. I don't know about nothing. It ain't my business to know. It's my business to know. Shannon's business and what goes on here, what you doing, that's my business. All that other stuff, what they're doing, I let them worry about that because I can't control their house. I ain't in their house, so I don't know what you're talking about. What he said. Well, she. I don't see that. That's the problem right there. He said. And now you repeating it. I don't get down like that. I don't want to hear nothing about what going on in somebody else house if it's not football related.
- [63:32]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I ain't got nothing to do with it. Huh?
- [63:34]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. No, I'm. Hey, I'm like, hey, bro, all I'm saying, I ain't gonna go, hey, you need. You need to tighten your screws down a little bit. You're a little loose out here, man. Sean, what you mean? What you mean? Hey, Sharp, don't go out. But if Sharp know. Yeah. How did he know? Okay. Yeah. So I was gonna. Okay, okay, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right. Okay. That's all I'm saying. Cause I'm telling you, you know, be. I don't know how you do it wherever you were, but Mike ain't gonna play that. Michael, get rid of your ass.
- [64:12]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah.
- [64:14]
Shannon Sharpe
Quick, quick, quick, quick. So anything that's gonna. That's gonna take your focus away from.
- [64:22]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
From.
- [64:23]
Shannon Sharpe
From. From winning ball games, right? Not being attentive. You know, look here, that's one thing. Hey, you came to work at. Hey, when you went to Dove Valley, Bronco, you went to work. All that other stuff and. Cause I see. I try to. I try to warn them. Cause we had to see. We one of the first teams that had cameras throughout the whole building. Yeah. In meeting rooms, big meeting rooms. Training. I said, y' all do know. Y' all run out of here. Y' all get on the phone. Y' all run out of here and you get on your cell phone.
- [65:10]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Man.
- [65:10]
Shannon Sharpe
I said, okay. You know what I'm saying?
- [65:13]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Oh, hey, hey, listen, I'm la. I'm laughing. I'm laughing because I'm guilty, boy.
- [65:19]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, you. Hey, you know how the b. The bo. People like, okay? No, that's what my grandma. My grandma, she like, just the nod, huh?
- [65:28]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Hey, anyway. Hey, you brought back some memories, boy. You brought back memories, Ocho.
- [65:34]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. For that time, yes. Huh? I didn't have to be. I wasn't on special teams. But on Friday, so Friday they was like, hey. And special teams coach would always say, hey, we're going to do hands teams. So don't worry about it. We'll go over it. Just be out there on the field. Blah, blah, blah.
- [65:50]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Right?
- [65:50]
Shannon Sharpe
So I didn't really have to get the meetings till, you know, nine o' clock. But anyway, okay, we got a break. So, you know, we got a big meeting, Mike. We got the big thing and then we gonna break up. Defense gonna go in the area. Offense stays here. And then after the offense, we're going to be okay. We got a 10 minute break because we going to break up an individual. We got the tight ends, the running backs, the wide receivers.
- [66:11]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah.
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- [68:46]
Shannon Sharpe
Man sharp man, you ain't man. You ain't never on the phone, man, you what I mean damn. I said let me ask you a question. Where you think my girl think I'm at? Where do you think I think he's at? Cause see y' all calling to check up. If I got to do that, I got to give me a new girl. I don't I can call to check up on you. Yeah, you don't call to check up on me. As a matter of fact, my phone was off. Now if something like, look, my phone was off. My nephew passed. They called my sister, called the Broncos. My phone was off. Mrs. Shannon, such and such, Mike need to see you. Dang. Became. I went, I said, yo, what's up, Mike? Say your nephew passed. Oh. So your sister says she's been trying to get in touch with you. I said, okay. I call her, called her. She said she had my baby gone. It's like, all right, I'll be there. I went, I said, mike, I gotta go. Say, all right, just let me know when you're coming back. I went home, took care of my sister, got, got that situated. Yeah, I came. That was like a Saturday. I got back that thing that Wednesday, right? I'm all business, bro. When I'm at work, I'm at work. I ain't talking to nobody on the phone. I ain't doing all that stuff. I do all this, hey, and now I'll talk, you know, because it was two hours difference in time. So I'm going to work. I might call my sister or once I got done with work before it got too late because you, it's already, you know, seven o' clock, my grandma going to bed. If I wanted to talk to my granny, I was like, hey, baby, put granny on the phone right quick. But other than that, no, I, I, I ain't about that. All that talking and, and like, I'm at work. Ojo. What am I doing at work?
- [70:46]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah, wait, boy, you, you better than me, boy. We got two different approaches. Hey, listen, when we hit, when we leave that big team meeting and we got that like that 10 minute break before we go to, to the, to the office of me. Yeah, I'm on that phone, boy. I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm just, I'm. I'm be honest with y' all. Oh, you, hey, hey, I'm scrolling. Twitter, I'm scrolling, you know, because this, this, this toward, toward the end.
- [71:07]
Shannon Sharpe
You're right.
- [71:08]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Got Twitter by it by that time. 2000-2008-2009-2010, man, I'm all on that, man. I'm having a good time. You know, cinema tweets out and boom, I'm going to a meeting. Now I don't take my phone with me to the meetings, but once I hit that meeting room, well, I'm strictly business. Well, you know.
- [71:24]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah, yeah. I never took, I never Took a phone in the meeting.
- [71:27]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah. Hey, but, boy, when that. When we got that break. Oh, well, listen, you know how black folk. Well, when we get a break, boy, we break.
- [71:34]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh. Oh, yeah.
- [71:35]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Hey, I ain't play, boy. You give me a break.
- [71:38]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm going to Joan.
- [71:39]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Huh?
- [71:40]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm going to Joan. I'm. I'm bragging on somebody. That's what I'm going to do.
- [71:44]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Okay, okay, okay.
- [71:45]
Shannon Sharpe
That's what we going to do then. Austin Reevis. Austin Rivers said, cut the BS and name your source when speaking on another player's character. Let's take a listen to what he had to say, Ocho.
- [71:55]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah.
- [71:56]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, listen, man, y' all kill me with this anonymous. Seriously. No, no more of that. I. I don't want any more people talking about they heard such and such about a player due to an anonymous source. Or. I heard some, you know, this guy wants out or he wants to be traded. He wants to be signed here. He's unhappy. I heard that guy's not, you know, a pleasure to work around. Says an anonymous source. Enough of the anonymous. If you're gonna speak on a player's character, if y' all gonna come out here and talk about a player's personal, you know, life and certain things about them, either say with your chest and say that you feel this way, or if you're gonna quote somebody else, say their damn name. I'm tired of the anonymous. That's never gonna happen. Because if you did that, you would never get any information.
- [72:42]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Well, this is. How about. How about not having to get information? The people that have something to say actually come out and say it. If you don't like something, just come out and say it. If you. If you. It's pretty simple. You know, I think it's like keyboard warriors, you know, people on Twitter talking trash. And, you know, you know, you can't get to them, so they say whatever they want to because they know it's the Internet. I think, you know, for media or analysts or pundits that have issue with players or players having an issue with analysts or players having an issue with players, I think we need to be, like, I told y' all, we need to start just telling the truth, just being honest, just being up front.
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Shannon Sharpe
One of the biggest.
- [73:20]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I think. I think we'll make the world a better place.
- [73:22]
Shannon Sharpe
Do you know one of the biggest stories in American history with an anonymous source? Have you ever heard of Watergate?
- [73:30]
Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Watergate. Watergate. Watergate.
- [73:32]
Shannon Sharpe
You know, that started with an anonymous source. Right. Can you imagine, had that anonymous source hadn't stepped up, what would have happened? Can you imagine? Can you possibly fathom what the CIA was doing with those taps to Dr. King? Can you imagine?
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Iran Contra. I mean, did that ring a bell? Anything? Did you realize, if it not for whistleblowers, an anonymous source, you would have never known nicotine was addictive, and they was putting it in your tobacco and cigarettes and chewing tobacco for the longest time if it wasn't from an anonymous source. And the Tuskegee study. So be careful when you tell people to shut up because. Oh, can you imagine if people never said a word, what kind of predicament we would be in? Are we sure? I get it. I get it. You speaking this. I get it. But are you sure that's what you want?
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah. I mean, listen, they would never be quiet anyway because, you know, people can't hold water.
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Shannon Sharpe
Huh?
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
People can't hold water. They just can't.
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Shannon Sharpe
I think in certain situations, they should. Look, I get it. But this has been going. They make it seem like it's like an anonymous source just happened in the last five years.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Right.
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Shannon Sharpe
Do they understand? First of all, it used to be a situation where the reporters would never tell what a player was doing. And they saw it. Used to be, you know what? Hey, I saw that. Hey, you see me? I see you.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Keep it moving.
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Shannon Sharpe
And it's not like that anymore, Ojo. It's not. Because everybody. Everybody. See, the thing is now it's not about being right. It's about being first.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
That's a good one.
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Shannon Sharpe
I gotta be first to get this story. Oh, it's competition.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah. Just in case I am, right.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Do you understand how much money these networks play for these insiders?
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
That's why they can't turn their phone off. Even she. After doing an interview, phone going off. I got to take this call. I got to step away. See, people see you mad at the monoma. You. You mad at the person that's delivering the information. You not mad at the person that told. Y' all think how many times about a shifter been wrong. When you say a trade is going to happen, a coach is about to be fired, or somebody's about to do this, you right? When these. When these basketball reporters and they talk about a LeBron James gonna go leave Cleveland and LeBron James gonna leave Miami and LeBron James gonna leave Cleveland and Kevin Durant is leaving OKC.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah. Hey, how many times. Think about it. Everything I've said, how many times I've Been wrong.
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Shannon Sharpe
At this point for me on you. I just don't say anything.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
I just say it and just walk away. Because if I say something, they gonna know. I let em discredit me. Well, you don't know. You're not in the locker room. Okay. People might say I talk a lot, but they don't say, I don't know what I'm talking about. But that's not my job. My job is not to break news. I don't get paid for that. I don't get paid. I'm not an insider. I don't get paid for that. But I do like to get information. So when I go on air and I talk about something or I come on here and talk about something, I feel very, very confident that people are not going to refute what I say.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Right. Hey, it pays to know. It pays to know the right people.
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Shannon Sharpe
It does.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Never, never, never burn no bridges off. You never know when you need people.
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Shannon Sharpe
I'd never give. I would never give. I don't give a damn if they got me in a court of law. I ain't telling you. Right. That person. That person gave me that information.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Right.
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Shannon Sharpe
Is going to my grave. Hey, on the a. Off the record. Off the record. Off the record, bro. Put it in your words.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Right?
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Shannon Sharpe
Gotcha. Done deal. But the anonymous sources are not going to go away.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
No, it never will.
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Shannon Sharpe
It's been around because people want to know, Ocho. People want to know. Yeah, people want to know. Man, I wonder what Giannis is going to do.
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Shannon Sharpe
Do Giannis watch his own. Who going to make a deal? Who's interested in Giannis? What does Giannis want to go? He. That might be the case.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
I told you.
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Shannon Sharpe
But people. People gonna want to know, and not when he not with Ocho. I don't want to know. Hell, I don't want to know. What Old center's dropping tomorrow. Nah, I need some previews. I need somebody talking about it like a week or month in advance.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
And let me get a little trailer, too, while you at it.
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Shannon Sharpe
That's how it works. But I get. Look, I get it, Austin, that, you know, they're talking about Russ. Look, for me, I don't think this. This is not the first time that people have said stuff about Russ. Russ is used to it now, and his wife Nina has every right to defend her husband. I ain't got no problem either way.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
The funny thing about Russ, boy, but Russ don't give two. No, two. You know what?
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Shannon Sharpe
He shouldn't.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
He don't care he'll respond to you when he get ready, though. He don't give two. You know what.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, exactly. So, look, I mean, that's not like earth shattering news. Look, Russ has a, you know, his personality is, you know, sometimes comes off as abrasive, but that doesn't take away from the fact he's one of 75 greatest players to ever play in the NBA. Y' all. Everybody want everybody to get along. There are different. I mean, people have different personalities. And when you bring. I don't care. Hell, you don't even get along with. Everybody don't get along with their own family. You think I'm gonna get along with somebody that I don't know that from a different background, different state, different social economics or whatever. That's just the way it is, Ocho. That's why it's so hard to win. Because no matter what, Ocho, Baptist, Presbyterian, Catholic, a Jehovah Witness, Muslim, whatever the case, Judaism, whatever the case may be, right? We got a common goal. So I got to take all these different religions, all these social, socioeconomic backgrounds. Yeah. I got to take all these different personalities. I got to take all these, you know, orientations or whatever the case may be, and I got to have one common goal.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
One. It ain't easy. No, because think about. You get your family. You got a family of five. Get everybody to agree to what y' all want to eat tonight, man, Good luck with that. And you think you about to get 53 players or you about to get 15 players or your baseball, 29 players to agree, and everybody get along. No, it ain't gonna happen.
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Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Not even realistic.
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Shannon Sharpe
Common goal. All I want. You want to win. That's all I care about. All this other stuff, Ocho, I don't care about. I don't care about none of that until it starts to impact winning. Yeah, bro, I don't care. That's your life. You live it. You good with it. If you like it, I love it. All I want to do is. All I want to know is that you want to win. That's it. The volume. Okay?
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Shannon Sharpe
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