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Chad Ochocinco
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Michael Kassin
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Michael Kassin
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Shannon Sharpe
Well, we know who's going to be in the Western Conference finals. The Thunder Take down the Denver Nuggets in seven games, 125 to 93 in Game 7. It really wasn't close. Once they made that run late in the second first quarter and it carried over to the second quarter, it really wasn't much of a ball game. But y' all know me. Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I am your favorite uncle. Okay, mid afternoon cap, but I still your favorite uncle. Shannon Sharp, my partner and co host, Liberty City's own bingo ring of fame honoree, Pro Bowler All Pro. That's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Also joining us tonight to talk all things basketball, our contributor who's been joining us for the last month, month and a half, Arkansas native, University of Arkansas alum, number 10 pick in the NBA draft. Y' all know him, ISO Joe, Joe Johnson. Joe, thanks for joining us again. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you so much for your support and your continued support. Thank you for graciously accepting Joe. He's been unbelievable for us, so we look forward to seeing in the future.
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Chad Ochocinco
Hold on. Yeah, we're very accepting of Joe. We love Joe. We like everything he contributes, especially when it comes to basketball. But what I'm trying to understand is I've been begging to play him one on one and he don't want no smoke.
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Joe Johnson
Hey, we got time. We got time, ojo.
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Chad Ochocinco
Hey, listen man, my time is valuable. That's why I wear a watch. And we waste.
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Joe Johnson
Hey, you ain't got to be in no rush to get this baby. Just chill out.
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Justina Valentine
You go get it.
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Chad Ochocinco
All right, all right. I got you. I got you.
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Shannon Sharpe
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Joe Johnson
I mean, that first quarter was exciting, but it made me a little nervous for OKC because, you know, Denver came out with it on their mind. But. But when I was sitting there watching the game, I'm like, is Bron gonna win the game for him? Because he got off to a great start as far as getting some easy buggies he got going. But I said, that ain't gonna last long, you know what I mean? And then I'm watching Gordon run up and down the court. Ain't no way they supposed to let him off the hook, man. You supposed to put him in pick and roll before they get into that zone. You got to make him work, make him move them. He couldn't get up and down that floor, Ocho.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
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Joe Johnson
So for me, I thought OKC came out and done they thing. They took care of game seven. When they. When they finally did get a. A hold of the game, you know, I felt like they put their foot in the gas and they just. They kept going.
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Shannon Sharpe
They.
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Joe Johnson
They. They didn't let up. And it's good to see that young team come out, take care of home court. Because I'm going to be honest with y' all. I don't know about y' all, but I don't want to see a hobbled Denver team going in. So, no, I'm glad OKC handled business. It was. It was a great game. I'm glad to see that they came out and they took care of business at home.
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Chad Ochocinco
Hey, hey.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, go ahead, Ocho.
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Chad Ochocinco
Now, I was going to say, listen, the cream always rise to the top, especially a game of this magnitude, this Game seven. So you want the MVP to come up to show out when it matters most, with your back against the wall. Obviously lost the previous game in Denver, but FGA came out Unk. He delivered the biggest moment of his career, obviously, to date. I'm sure there will be more to come. 3512 for 19. Shoot, unk. He was unstoppable. He took advantage of all the mismatches. He tossed the goddamn dimming drop covers. See, in the closeout. See? See, Joe, I'm learning that.
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Joe Johnson
I see.
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Chad Ochocinco
I see him, Uncle. You hear Malingo?
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Shannon Sharpe
I hear it.
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Joe Johnson
I hear it.
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Chad Ochocinco
He would listen. He was efficient, and he. Excuse me. And he was able to control Denver's crowd very early.
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Shannon Sharpe
Well, I think the thing also, Joe, is that you can tell Denver's not used to playing a zone because they kept giving up lob. Back door lobs. They kept giving up the back door. They kept giving the ball up, giving it up in the post. And then now the guy turns around, he got guys wide open for threes, and they didn't know how to turn and put bodies on bodies to keep people off the offensive glass. So now you see OKC getting offensive rebounds. Now you see them getting easy put backs, because you're not. You know, you go play a zone like, okay, we're going to play this zone, and you work on a little bit and shoot around and you might hit it five or six times, you know, five or six minutes. But that's not what you normally do. It's just a change up to try to throw the team off their rhythm. And you can tell they're not used to playing the zone because they gave up so many lobs. They gave up the ball to the. The one thing you don't want to do in the zone is give the ball up in the middle.
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Chad Ochocinco
Right. I have a question.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, go ahead.
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Chad Ochocinco
And Joe, y' all could probably attest to this and answer better than me. Why would you change up what you're doing in game seven defensively? Why would you even run zone when that's something you really haven't been doing much of when you had success doing what you already been doing previously?
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Shannon Sharpe
Because we're trying to protect Aaron Gordon because we know he can't move, he can't move laterally, so we got to try to protect him. And so we're trying to protect him and we're trying to give them something different than what they're used to. Let's see if they can make some shots outside. But because that's not something that. It's not like Syracuse. You play Syracuse. Jim Boeheim, you gonna see that two, three, zone. And you might get man to man late in the game because they're trying to get steals, but other than that, you gonna see 2, 3. That's what they do. So you understand that. So now I'm just trying to change up the look, Ocho, you know, hey, we're a couple single high safety team, right? But you know what? To give you a different look, we might sprinkle a little quarters in there. We might sprinkle a little cover, too, but that ain't really what we do, right?
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Joe Johnson
Right. Right.
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Shannon Sharpe
Hey, look, that's not what Denver does. Go ahead, Ojo.
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Joe Johnson
I'm not mad at Denver for throwing the zone created. I thought it created some indecision on the Thunder part early. You know, they couldn't make shots. And then they start forcing to the hole. They was making layups, so I think it flustered them a little bit. But once they kind of got the hang of it, they just, they demolished it. They started making shots. They started getting into the teeth of the defense and it was a rap from there. You know, they. They basically seized the moment. Man, they took care of this game early. This. This wasn't close. You know, considering by the second quarter, I mean, you could tell it was going to be pretty much Over.
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Shannon Sharpe
It's just too many turnovers. Yeah, you can't turn Ocho, you know, look, in a game of this magnitude, I'm going to let you go, Ocho. In a game of this magnitude, a Game 7 or an NFL playoff game, you cannot turn the basketball over. You can't turn the football over. You play double and you're turning. Think about where they're turning the ball over. They're turning the ball over high Joe. So now you got a two on one. They laying the ball up.
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Joe Johnson
Yeah. They fast breaking it every.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes, yes.
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Joe Johnson
They were turning them turnovers into points.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
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Joe Johnson
Quickly in Denver with guys hobbled, you know, they don't have, they didn't have enough firepower to come back on the road in the game seven. Man, they needed Jamal Murray to play great.
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Shannon Sharpe
They needed to play unbelievable. Yes. They needed, they needed contributions for a.
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Joe Johnson
Lot from a lot of different people. And they just didn't get it, man. They didn't get it.
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Chad Ochocinco
Hey, listen, we also have to do we talk about what they did offensively now. They had 22 turn. They had 22 turnovers. Right. You had six on Aaron Gordon had for Jamal Murray. Supposed to have an out of body experience, you know, with Aaron Gordon being down, but he only had goddamn 13. And then also the Thunder, they suffocated. Joker. Cat Joke. Joker.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes. And crowded with bodies, man, listen, he.
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Chad Ochocinco
He, he had 20, he had 28, nine. But obviously that wasn't enough. There had to be somewhere else where points needed to come from. And by the time. Listen, honestly, when I watched the game, the way they came out, the way Denver came out, I really thought they was going to run away with the game.
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Joe Johnson
Me too.
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Chad Ochocinco
I thought they were going to run away the game. And by the time it got towards the end of the first, I said, you know what, man? This is over. Now I understand the basketball. It's a game of runs. I've come to learn that now. Yeah, man, once they got that far ahead, there was no way FJ was allowing them boys to come back.
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Shannon Sharpe
No. And plus, look at Yoke. He only had five shot attempts. I mean, nine shot attempts.
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Joe Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
So in order for him, you needed him to be somewhere in the 20s. You wouldn't have been disappointed if he had 25 shot attempts. You wouldn't have been disappointed if Murray, now you'd like to have. Murray has 16, but you'd like to be him a little bit more efficient. But the one that the most disappointing thing this series was Michael Porter Jr. I understand he's Injured. But, bro, if you can't give us any more than that, bro, you got to sit down. Giving us nothing.
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Chad Ochocinco
But they should have nothing. I don't. They should have known that from jump. If you haven't. They played six games previously for this one. If you know MPJ ain't give you nothing since then, why not change it up? Hell, you did it defensively, you know, to try to hide Aaron Gordon so he doesn't have to do much on the floor. So why start Westbrook? Why not?
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Shannon Sharpe
And the plus and plus also, why would you let. Why would you let Gordon bring the ball up? He got an injured hamstring. You see what they try to do? Like, see what they would try to do? They would body him and then move out. The way he starts stumbling, lose the ball. He go on the foul. No, bro, you ain't got no balance because your body knows your body gonna protect that hamstring.
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Joe Johnson
Yeah, for sure.
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Shannon Sharpe
You feel that breakaway? He started running like, nah, y' all go ahead and go.
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Joe Johnson
Grade two. Grade two. Hey, he. Hey, look, I applaud him just for even suiting up and getting out.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes. Yes, it would.
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Joe Johnson
No grade two, man. But, yeah, I want to get OKC Thunder. I want to get OKC Thunder credit because Alex Caruso, he fought, man. Hey, that man. That man ain't but, what, six, three, six, four. Guarding Jokic, he just battling him, wearing him down, making him take tough shots, not letting him blow by him and get easy points. And I thought it worked out great, man. I got a lot of respect for Caruso and the fight that he had in this game today.
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Shannon Sharpe
I thought he battled him and made him tired because he'd be on one side, and Jokic feel him. I'm back over here, and you feel him over here, and now I'm back behind you. So he was always in a situation where he's making Jokic work for everything that he's getting. Now when he does get the ball, Here come Chet. Here come Dort. Here come guys corralling him. Sit down. Sit. And now they're corralling him and putting so much pressure on him. And no, he tried to throw the ball out. It's gone. He turned it over. He turned the ball like you said, Ocho, he had. Gordon had four turnovers. Jokic had five. Russ had four. I thought kind of Russ turnovers, like, the end of the first. I kind of thought that got the Thunder out and running because he came in and gave you two quick turnovers. Right quick. And it was up 10. And all of a sudden it's a four point. It's a six point ball game. And now they've got momentum. Titus, sit. And now they got momentum. And that's what in the road. You know, Ocho and Joe, when you go on the road and you play in a team's building, you cannot turn the ball over because you're going to get the crowd into the game. And as long as you can keep the crowd at bay, the better your chances are winning. Once that crowd got into the game, Edelman started to start burning those time like, give me a time like, well, damn, I just took one two minutes ago. Guys, just slow it down and then turn it over again. And now they out the gate.
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Chad Ochocinco
And listen, it don't make it no better here. Hell, all five Thunder starters finished with plus 24 or better, right? And the guys in bench, they gave you 34 on the bench and kept the energy high all game. So not only is the crowd into it, hell, everybody sitting on the bench getting into the game, plus the starters was out there cutting the food.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, you got. Wallace gave him big. Big. Wallace gave him big minutes. He gave him 29. He plus 38. Wiggins 19. He gave you plus. He gave you 19 minutes. He's plus 19. Caruso in only 26 minutes. He's plus 40. I thought if there had to be an MVP. Now, look, I know Shay is Shay. Shay did what I thought Shay would do, but I thought it was Caruso's hounding of Jokic, forcing me into turnovers, making him take quick shots because he had one. He got the ball, he forced it up quick. He got the rebound, he put it up under and they took it from him. And so I thought he played. I thought Caruso played really well. And Shay being Shay Shay's the mvp. But I thought that game seven MVP might have been Alex Caruso.
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Joe Johnson
Yeah, I thought collectively as a team, they all done a great job in corralling and making it tough. But, man, Denver just came out of game seven. Like, that's two game sevens, you know what I mean? That's a lot of work, Uncle Ocho. You know what I mean?
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
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Joe Johnson
And this game of basketball, man, is for them young legs, bro. And the OKC came and they brought it and they wore them guys down. Guys started breaking down throughout the series. They took advantage of it.
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Chad Ochocinco
Whoa, whoa, whoa. I just thought about something. Hold on. I just thought about something. I could have swore. I could have swore we had a bet on the game seven, didn't we? Or did we not make a light little bet?
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Joe Johnson
You must be talking to. On.
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Chad Ochocinco
Did we make a light little bet on the game?
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Shannon Sharpe
Man, you saw, man. You saw. I was the one that brought it to your attention that Gore was rubbing that left hamstring. Okay? I said I want no part of that.
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Chad Ochocinco
So that wasn't you. So that obviously, Joe, that might have been you.
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Joe Johnson
That wasn't me, man. I was going for okc.
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Chad Ochocinco
Okay?
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Joe Johnson
So if that's the case.
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Chad Ochocinco
Hold up. That's right. Okay, we did agree. We did agree with SGA on pulling it out for game 7. Right?
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Joe Johnson
But we got. But we wait. We got something coming up now. This Western Conference finals.
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Chad Ochocinco
Now, talk to me now. Don't listen, don't. Whatever you do, don't be on the wrong side of history. Don't be on the wrong side of history. So who you got?
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Joe Johnson
I'm going with Ant Man.
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Chad Ochocinco
I was finna say that, man.
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Joe Johnson
Oh, you don't want okc. You look like you want an okc, and I'm man.
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Chad Ochocinco
Ant man is basically me reincarnated, but he just. On the basketball court. What you talking about? I talk about on the court and off the court. What's the difference, man?
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Joe Johnson
Listen, I got the T. Wolves you can take.
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Chad Ochocinco
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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Joe Johnson
Okay, look, I'm giving you the Knicks. I'm giving you the Knicks. I'm taking the pole.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh, the Knick.
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Chad Ochocinco
Listen, I'm gonna tell you right now. Listen, I already got the script. I'm not gonna tell you. I talked to Adam Silver. Right? The Knicks are going to be in the finals no matter what. Because Bills got to be paid. Uncle don't hear me, huh?
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Joe Johnson
They got a good chance.
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Shannon Sharpe
I hear you.
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Chad Ochocinco
Bills got to be paid. Commercials, sponsorships, endorsements. They don't need to. They're not going to allow a small market to be in the finals. So I'm telling you right now, everybody.
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Shannon Sharpe
Well, not too small markets, because everybody's small market other than Knicks.
- [18:48]
Chad Ochocinco
Okay? So what? You see what I'm trying? Are you picking up what I'm putting down?
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
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Chad Ochocinco
All right.
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Shannon Sharpe
Highest plus, minus off the bench in a game seven this century. Alex Caruso plus 40. Wallace. Carson Wallace plus 38. Mono, Ginobili plus 32. Those are the highest plus minuses off the bench this century in a game seven. Like I said, I thought Alex Caruso. I've always liked Alex Caruso. When he was at the Lakers, he did all the dirty work. He and LeBron played really, really well together. Just like Lebron and Kobe are the Ozarks.
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Joe Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Reeves, Austin Reeves, they play really well together. Very high cue, a very high iq. Ballplayers, neither one of those guys, Reaves or Caruso, are the most physically gifted. They're not 6 9. They don't have this imposing body. They just do all the things right. Caruso is going to be where he's supposed to be. He going to take the charges. He going to block the shot. He going to steal the ball. He going to do all the nasty work that sometimes doesn't show up in the box score. But coaches and teammates really appreciate the effort because they know he's going to give you the effort. The same thing. Caruso is more of a defensive guy. Austin Reeves more of an offensive guy. Caruso can score, he can't score like Austin Reeds. Austin Reed. We've seen Austin Reeves go get you 40 points in the game. He averaged 20. He averaged 20 this year. 25 and 5.
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Chad Ochocinco
Hey, can I tell you something about Reese? You know, you could tell certain individuals by their style of play and the way they play and the way they produce. He grew up with us.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah.
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Chad Ochocinco
I'm just saying, without having. Without. I'm not gonna say it the right way, but he grew up with us. He grew up playing with us. That's where you get that from.
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Joe Johnson
Yeah.
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Chad Ochocinco
But I'm gonna leave. I'll leave it at that. Go ahead.
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Joe Johnson
Hey, I think Caruso and Wallace obviously played a huge role in today's win. They didn't wow you as far as points, but them being disruptive on the defensive end, which allowed them to kind of get out. I mean, they both. I thought they'd done a great job defensively. Three steals, two steals. They were very, very effective defensively, which kind of got OKC out and got them out and got them some easy buckets. This is going to be the next series for okc, is going to be a special one, man. Because I think your role players are going to play a major factor in this, Uncle Ojo.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
I mean. Cause the bench, the role players had nine of the 16 steals. Yeah. So when you look at it, you mentioned you had caruso, he had three steals. You had Wallace, he had two steals. So that's five of the 16 between those two. And that's what flipped the game around. Because now all of a sudden, they started playing passing lanes. All of a sudden, they started getting deflections. And so now. And when they're where they're getting those deflections, hey, it's two three dribbles and I'm laying the ball up.
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Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
It ain't no at the baseline. I'm getting steal at the baseline. No, I'm getting steals. You know, I'm playing pass lane. I mean, think about it. They got a couple of steals. Lou Dork did a great job of pulling the chair from under Gordon.
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Joe Johnson
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
At the half court.
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Joe Johnson
Yeah.
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Joe Johnson
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Michael Kassin
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- [23:48]
Shannon Sharpe
One dribble pass ahead to Caruso Dunk. And we saw a lot of that and those are the things that Alex Caruso has done everywhere he's been. Like I said, he doesn't wow you offensively, but you really appreciate the things that he do defensively because you know that is really, that's contagious. That's effort. You know that guy, he's like, hey, I know my job and there's nothing more than a guy that knows his job. If you work in the mail room, hey, make sure the mail's sorted. Hey, make sure. Hey, my mail is in my box. Ash mail is in her box. Jordan mail that day, man. Why is Jordan mail in my box? You got one job.
- [24:23]
Chad Ochocinco
That's it.
- [24:24]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, everybody has a job. Everybody has a responsibility. And when everybody accepts their job, accepts their responsibility, and do that to the highest level.
- [24:34]
Chad Ochocinco
Yes, sir.
- [24:34]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't need you to be a CEO because sometimes, you know, you get people on Ocho when we need. Trying to be the CEO, and all we need is cashiers. And sometimes we don't need cashiers. We just need a janitor.
- [24:43]
Chad Ochocinco
Right, I like that. I like that. But listen, I don't mean to be off topic, right? But I just want to make sure. I'm trying to keep the main thing. The main thing, and I want to get to business now, in the East. Who you got in the East?
- [24:56]
Shannon Sharpe
Who, me?
- [24:57]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, who you got? Nice.
- [25:00]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm gonna go with Bronson, okay?
- [25:02]
Chad Ochocinco
You want with the Knicks, so that's a smartest, small choice. Now we got the Wolves and we got a Thunder. Who you taking, man?
- [25:10]
Shannon Sharpe
I gotta go with the home. I gotta go with the home team. I gotta go. I gotta go with Ant man. Ant man from Georgia.
- [25:15]
Chad Ochocinco
You're a smart man. Now, Joe, I'm coming to you, Joe. Now I got. I got my pad out right now, so I'm write everything down now. So can't nobody renege. So, Joe, who you. Who you got in? Who you got out east?
- [25:25]
Joe Johnson
I told you, man, I'm gonna take. I'm gonna take Indiana.
- [25:28]
Chad Ochocinco
So you're gonna take Indiana. So now that you're taking Indiana, right? Make it light on yourself, man. Okay, how much we talking? How much we bet? I'm gonna write it down right now.
- [25:39]
Joe Johnson
We can.
- [25:39]
Chad Ochocinco
We can.
- [25:40]
Joe Johnson
We can bet that little friendly honey bag we can bet that little friendly.
- [25:42]
Chad Ochocinco
Honey bag you ain't even seen, then you ain't sent me the honey you owe me.
- [25:46]
Joe Johnson
Yeah, no, I got you. I got you. I'm send. I'm gonna send over that to you just a little honey. We ain't trying to, you know, I mean, ruffle no feathers or nothing.
- [25:54]
Chad Ochocinco
Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe. Don't make me do nothing to you, Joe.
- [26:00]
Shannon Sharpe
Why you want to do something to somebody and I ain't doing nothing to you?
- [26:05]
Joe Johnson
Hold on, hold on. You want to. You want to get at me over a hundred? But you owe somebody 5200.
- [26:10]
Chad Ochocinco
Listen, there ain't no problem I owe on 5200, right? But no, he gonna get that 5200. Because I put it aside.
- [26:17]
Shannon Sharpe
I know that.
- [26:18]
Justina Valentine
Huh?
- [26:19]
Chad Ochocinco
I told you I'm gonna pay you. But Joe. Joe bet me, right? Joe bet me. But Joe is not. He's not. It's been two weeks. You ain't send my money yet.
- [26:30]
Justina Valentine
What?
- [26:33]
Shannon Sharpe
Boy, it's been six months, and you ain't paid me nothing.
- [26:36]
Chad Ochocinco
I know, but we. Listen, you and I, we. We. We different. Like, you know, you.
- [26:41]
Joe Johnson
I got you, bro. I got.
- [26:42]
Justina Valentine
Don't trip.
- [26:43]
Chad Ochocinco
Hey. All right. I don't. Listen, y' all, I want to do nothing to you, but I could tell somebody. I told you. I told you what they called them. They called me. They called me Hella hands. I don't want. I don't want to have to put none on you.
- [26:52]
Shannon Sharpe
All right?
- [26:52]
Joe Johnson
Okay.
- [26:55]
Shannon Sharpe
You know, I'm doing bad right now. I can really use that 52.
- [26:58]
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, listen, whatever you need. Now, listen, it ain't got to be 52. Now, your limit is 500. Now you tell me 500? Yeah. 500 grand. I got you. I got. You can't go with 500 because I can't make that back up.
- [27:15]
Joe Johnson
I think.
- [27:15]
Shannon Sharpe
I think I'm gonna be okay for the time being.
- [27:17]
Chad Ochocinco
Okay. Oh, matter of fact. Hey, hey. Huh? Hey, Joe boy. Guess where I'm at.
- [27:21]
Justina Valentine
What?
- [27:21]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, well, I'm in Houston still.
- [27:25]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, Lord.
- [27:26]
Chad Ochocinco
Now, listen, listen. Stay with me real quick. Stay with me. Now. They told me two days ago, you can leave Houston any day you want to, but you can't leave on Sunday.
- [27:37]
Joe Johnson
What's going on on Sunday?
- [27:39]
Chad Ochocinco
I don't know. They call it Sunday Funday. So I'm at the cigar bar. I'm at the Den on Almeida, right? And then they say after I do the show, they taking me to. To Area 29. I don't know what Area 29 is. I've never been there. I heard the Area 51, that's that keep the aliens and stuff. So Area 29 after that, right? Now, I met the Den. Hey, I was out here at the Den yesterday for seven hours. I heard some of the greatest stories of all time. Scarface was out here and Georgia.
- [28:11]
Shannon Sharpe
Funny that you say that. I just got off the phone with Face, and he told my man, hey, man, you need to come out here and break bread with me. We can go, you know, we can go play gossip. Bro, I don't play no golf.
- [28:20]
Chad Ochocinco
You don't play golf?
- [28:22]
Shannon Sharpe
No.
- [28:23]
Chad Ochocinco
I don't play none either. But, hey, if you. I know you don't like coming to Houston. I don't like coming either. I come Once every six months we got to come to the den. You smoke, right? No, but they got, they got the laportier in here though.
- [28:37]
Shannon Sharpe
They do?
- [28:38]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, man, that's what I'm talking about, man. People supporting you all over the world, man. You and you global.
- [28:43]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, I was about to be on the pipe, Joe.
- [28:46]
Chad Ochocinco
You come to Houston.
- [28:47]
Shannon Sharpe
I was about to smoke. I'm about to start smoking.
- [28:51]
Joe Johnson
I ain't been out.
- [28:56]
Chad Ochocinco
Hey. Oh, you shot out, man. No, you gotta, we gotta have a fellows trip. We gotta have it, have a fellowship. Joe, you smoke cigars?
- [29:03]
Joe Johnson
I ain't no cigar smoker.
- [29:05]
Chad Ochocinco
You gonna smoke with me? We're gonna come to the gym, we gonna put chairs out on the sidewalk, we're gonna people watch as the people go by on a Sunday. I'm telling you, you don't want to miss it.
- [29:12]
Joe Johnson
Hey, I like the people wise now.
- [29:14]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
- [29:15]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm telling you, I like the people wife too.
- [29:17]
Chad Ochocinco
Listen, hey, hey, boy. Hey, yeah, listen, for me, I mean.
- [29:23]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm gonna be in my whole. I'll tell you what, I just want you to hold it up. Just hold the video up.
- [29:28]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
- [29:28]
Shannon Sharpe
I would be in my room and just have the camera pointed out so I can see the people walking by.
- [29:32]
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, hey, Joe, I, I, listen, I've been here two days, right? The graduation was yesterday for me. It's like being at the zoo. And I mean this in a respectful way. It's like being at the zoo, but ain't nothing caged in. Ain't nothing caged in. They just, they just run a wild everywhere. Joe, is a beautiful sight. Now my eyes, my eyes work right. Right in that room with my eyes, right? I'm very disciplined, you see? You know, because I'm finna get. You see that? You see that on my finger? I'm gonna get married now. So I'm real disciplined, right? So this, this is the good, this is, this is good for me to be, to be.
- [30:10]
Shannon Sharpe
Get it out your system, Ocho. Get it out your system.
- [30:12]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, hold on. See, I'm an amoeba, you know? An amoeba, you can put him in any environment and he can adapt.
- [30:19]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [30:19]
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, so that's what I've done. I'm adapting, but I'm adapting to, while still having discipline and structure.
- [30:25]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [30:25]
Chad Ochocinco
Because I got a nice foundation and honing the bill on.
- [30:28]
Joe Johnson
I hear you.
- [30:29]
Chad Ochocinco
You feel me?
- [30:30]
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
- [30:30]
Chad Ochocinco
Now it's Sunday now. I'm a preach to you.
- [30:33]
Joe Johnson
Okay.
- [30:34]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah. I don't want to touch that. But anyway, okay. Seeing Josh giddy there was A trade that happened last off season. Alex Caruso for Josh Giddy. Me personally, I think the trade mutual benefited both guys. Josh Giddey needed to be a place where he needs to handle the ball. He was never going to be the player that he was, that he can become because Shay's going to have the ball in his hand. He needs to go that predominantly he's going to have the ball. So I thought it was a great move for Chicago. I thought it was a great move for okc. Caruso is a guy. Hey, I can just focus on defense. Hey, I give you a little score and I can give you a little ten piece here and there. But my job is to play the passing lane, get deflections, defend at a high level, draw charges. I thought the trade worked out for both of them. It's hard for me to say because I saw what Josh Giddey did with Chicago. Scoring the ball, rebounding, assisting, made some big time shots. So it's hard for me to say, Joe, one team won the trade over the other.
- [31:32]
Joe Johnson
Yeah, no, I think it definitely was a good trade for both teams. I love to see Giddy, the way he's flourishing in Chicago, making plays, scoring the basketball. And it got to the point where Chicago was playing some meaningful basketball at one point. Yeah, I thought Giddey was playing really well. I think Caruso just fits what OKC does as far as gritty players, tough players, sit down, play defense. Yeah, they can score, they can give you some buckets. But for the most part defensively and being effective on that end is definitely what OKC need. And I thought Caruso brings that playmaking, guarding guys, that's a lot bigger than him, obviously, and it's worked out for the better. And you know, it's going to be. It's going to be tested in this next series against these T wolves though.
- [32:21]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, because they're going to throw a lot. They're going to throw a lot of bodies of ant. Caruso taking some. Lou Dorta, take him some. You have Jalen Williams, that'll guard him, son. You got Wallace, that'll guard him some. Isaiah Joe, that'll guard him, son. You got a lot of. They're going to throw a lot of different bodies. They're going to try to wear him down.
- [32:35]
Chad Ochocinco
Hold on. I like what you just said, uncle, about them throwing bodies at him. But all the bodies you name really can't do nothing with them one on one. They're going to have to. They're going to have to have some type of Help from somewhere, no matter who he is.
- [32:48]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, look, I'm just going to try to give him as many different looks as I possibly can, right? Some guys are his size, some guys are a little taller, some guys are a little.
- [32:56]
Chad Ochocinco
Right.
- [32:57]
Shannon Sharpe
It's just that I'm not going to give him a steady diet of anything, right. Because it's just like with medicine, if you take it too long, you'll build up a resistance to it. So I'm not going to give him a steady diet of anything. I ain't going to let one guy like, oh, you got him the whole game. Lou Dort. You got him. Wallace, you got it. Caruso, you got it. Jalen Williams, you got it. And if we have to, yeah, we'll go to a zone, we'll play that zone. And hey, put a boxing one on him, okay? Yeah, because the difference is I'm not really worried about Rudy Gobert hurting me, right? I'm not. Because they got big body, you know. Look, Hardenstein gonna give you what he's gonna give you. Hardenstein today. He only played 17 minutes. Five or seven. He gave you seven rebounds. 10.7 rebounds. Okay, you got Chet. Chet gave you 13 points on four, nine shooting, 11 rebounds. So, look, like I said, Gobert had those. Had a great. Had a really good, great game. Game five against the Lakers. But I'm not expecting him to give me any more than 8 to 10 points, maybe 11, 12 rebounds. That 27, 24. Yeah, that's over with.
- [34:00]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, well, you never know because we never thought the 27 and 24 was going to happen, too. So I'm going to say it's based on circumstance. It's based on circumstance. If he ever has an out of body experience like that again while playing.
- [34:13]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, the difference is not.
- [34:15]
Chad Ochocinco
It's not likely, but there's a chance it could happen. Listen, no, because we might play the lotto a hundred times, we might not win, but there's a chance we might hit it that one time.
- [34:26]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I was going to play it, but they told me they moved the lottery tickets under $5 apiece now. So I remember when it was a $92 3. Now they go to 5. I don't know about that, Ocho.
- [34:34]
Chad Ochocinco
Listen, one thing about it. You can't win if you don' Played True. Hey, can't win if you don't play. Hey, baby, my daughter's watching. Kennedy, I love you. How you doing, sweetie? Praise God. I love you. All right.
- [34:48]
Shannon Sharpe
The little one.
- [34:49]
Chad Ochocinco
No, no, that's, that's, that's Serenity Baby Kennedy.
- [34:52]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, okay.
- [34:54]
Chad Ochocinco
I mean, you got both of them watching.
- [34:56]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, Serenity, I need to get me a pad and write all these kids name down so I'll be knowing which. I need to give you a pad and pen so I can write all these kids name down so I know who you're talking to.
- [35:06]
Chad Ochocinco
It's a lot of them. It's a lot of them.
- [35:07]
Shannon Sharpe
I know. That's why I need a pad and pen.
- [35:10]
Chad Ochocinco
Matter of fact, when you write them down, add two more to it.
- [35:14]
Joe Johnson
All right, now.
- [35:15]
Chad Ochocinco
All right, Add two more.
- [35:17]
Shannon Sharpe
You go right ahead.
- [35:18]
Chad Ochocinco
Huh?
- [35:19]
Shannon Sharpe
I said you go right ahead.
- [35:20]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, but I'm gonna have twins. Boy, you ain't know that. I mean, what. What. What better. What better place to break that story than your night cap? Praise God.
- [35:30]
Joe Johnson
It's Cap. Cap, huh?
- [35:33]
Chad Ochocinco
Listen, ain't no Cap. Ain't no Cap. In my story, everything I tell is truth, and it's. It's real life experience.
- [35:39]
Joe Johnson
Oh, Joe.
- [35:40]
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, Joe, do me a favor. As long as you've been on here with me, name one lie I told.
- [35:45]
Joe Johnson
Boy, you want. You really want me to do this?
- [35:47]
Chad Ochocinco
Yes. Just give me one. Give me one. Name one lie ever told.
- [35:52]
Joe Johnson
The LeBron. The 50. The 50. The 50 point.
- [35:55]
Shannon Sharpe
The 50,000. 50,000 career point ball.
- [35:58]
Joe Johnson
Career point ball. That's one.
- [36:00]
Chad Ochocinco
Hold on now. Wait, wait a minute now. I got the 40,000 point ball, and I didn't want to be greedy and asked for the 50,000 point ball, so I already got one of them, but I got that one in storage.
- [36:12]
Joe Johnson
Hey, look, you know how when you. When you lie so much, you build lies on top of life? You have to remember all them lies, Ocho. That's a lot, man.
- [36:21]
Chad Ochocinco
I don't. Joe, listen to me. I lie for you before I lie to you. I would never lie to y' all because I respect y' all. And so anything come out my mouth, there's always something true to it a little bit.
- [36:33]
Joe Johnson
All right?
- [36:34]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
- [36:35]
Chad Ochocinco
I promise you.
- [36:35]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, did you see that? You see the graphic that we posted? All them events you've been at?
- [36:40]
Chad Ochocinco
Matter of fact, it's so funny now that you think about it, right? Like, out of all the graphics, there was only one I really wasn't at.
- [36:48]
Shannon Sharpe
Which one was that?
- [36:49]
Chad Ochocinco
Huh?
- [36:50]
Shannon Sharpe
Which one was that?
- [36:52]
Chad Ochocinco
The golf. The golf tournament.
- [36:53]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, you wasn't at the tiger thing, 97?
- [36:55]
Chad Ochocinco
Nah, I wasn't there. I wasn't there. I was at the 1. I was at the 1 in 99, though.
- [37:03]
Shannon Sharpe
So you that Dr. King? His speech?
- [37:09]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, my Grandma. My grandma. My granddaddy was there. They was there. So that. That really counts as me.
- [37:15]
Shannon Sharpe
You saw Des Rose apart. So they asked you to give up your seat first, and then they went. Then they went to Ms. Parks.
- [37:20]
Chad Ochocinco
My grandma. Listen, when Martin Luther King was walking right in the photo, my grandma was right behind Dr. King with my granddaddy. He right there in the picture. You didn't even know that?
- [37:29]
Shannon Sharpe
I didn't know that.
- [37:30]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
- [37:30]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. I mean, from what I'm hearing now, the way the story's being told, they went to you first and asked you to give up your seat.
- [37:37]
Chad Ochocinco
No, no, no, no. That's not what happened. That's not what happened. Cause I was already in the bank.
- [37:41]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, you was already at the bank. So you already.
- [37:45]
Chad Ochocinco
Know back then they were lynching now. Yeah, they were lynching. I wasn't finna play like that. I don't play with the people like that. We ain't really had no rules because when you go to the bathroom, it still said whites and colors only. So I. You don't play the game. Not back then.
- [37:58]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
- [37:58]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, I don't play that. I don't play that. But my grandma. My granddaddy was there, though.
- [38:03]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. I mean, use a lot of places. I said, man, damn. Ocho got around.
- [38:06]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. And you know, hey, before. Listen, before, with Carmen Sandiego. Before Carmen Sandiego, it was me, where in the world is Carmen Sandiego? You remember that?
- [38:19]
Shannon Sharpe
No.
- [38:20]
Chad Ochocinco
Where's Waldo?
- [38:22]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, Where's Waldo? Yeah, I remember. Where's Waldo?
- [38:24]
Chad Ochocinco
It was me before Waldo. That came from me. Oh, yeah, that came from me. I'm just saying I haven't been everywhere, Joe. I'd have been all over the world, Joe. I done lived two times already. You hear me?
- [38:39]
Justina Valentine
Yeah.
- [38:40]
Chad Ochocinco
I done lived two times already, so I don't really know.
- [38:42]
Shannon Sharpe
Live two times. Lied three times.
- [38:45]
Chad Ochocinco
I don't lie.
- [38:46]
Joe Johnson
I don't lie.
- [38:47]
Chad Ochocinco
Next. I don't lie with my. Joe. Send me that 100 jokes.
- [38:58]
Joe Johnson
I can't believe you even got on here, pressing me about that hundred dollars, man.
- [39:01]
Chad Ochocinco
I'm at the cigar by Joe. I want to buy some placencias at the Den. I'm at the Den on Almeida. Just. Just send me. Send me a hundred dollars. I'm gonna get. They cost 35 a pump, Joe.
- [39:12]
Joe Johnson
We gonna talk about it, boss man.
- [39:16]
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, Face, come here, man. Hey, he go. Face, right here is it. Come on.
- [39:23]
Joe Johnson
Hold on, hold on.
- [39:24]
Chad Ochocinco
Sit right there real quick. Say about 85. What's up, man?
- [39:27]
Joe Johnson
85.
- [39:28]
Justina Valentine
85.
- [39:32]
Joe Johnson
What's happening.
- [39:33]
Shannon Sharpe
What a dude.
- [39:33]
Justina Valentine
Face.
- [39:36]
Joe Johnson
Hey, didn't I just talk to you?
- [39:37]
Shannon Sharpe
I just. I just told the chat. I just got the phone with you about an hour ago. We got something brewing. Hey, I told. I told my. I told my brother. I said, man, I just talked to Face. He said, man, tell Face. Hey, I ain't. My game ain't what it used to be. Hey, man, I want to see what he got. No, no, sir.
- [39:58]
Joe Johnson
I'm not gonna go out there playing with Sterling. Man, are you crazy?
- [40:02]
Shannon Sharpe
Face, he been off. You know, he had eyes. He had eye surgery. About to have another one. So he been off for about five months. He just. For y' all didn't know. Faith just had open heart surgery about six months ago, right? August. August. Okay. Almost a year.
- [40:18]
Joe Johnson
Hey, man, that boy strong like bull. Blessed by the best.
- [40:24]
Shannon Sharpe
You good?
- [40:25]
Joe Johnson
I'm good, man.
- [40:27]
Shannon Sharpe
Man, thank you, bro.
- [40:27]
Joe Johnson
Hey, all right, all right.
- [40:31]
Shannon Sharpe
You know, that's. That's Joe. When you see Ocho here in the building with you, that's Joe Johnson. That's our basketball contributor. Okay. Hey, what it looked like on.
- [40:39]
Joe Johnson
What it looked like with the finals, man? I mean, who going to the.
- [40:42]
Shannon Sharpe
Who going.
- [40:43]
Joe Johnson
Who going to the dance?
- [40:44]
Shannon Sharpe
You trying to bet or you just want. What you just want to know? I want to know. I'm trying to bet.
- [40:51]
Joe Johnson
Come on.
- [40:52]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm taking. I'm taking. If I had to bet. If I had to bet money, I would take the Knicks and the Thunder. But since I ain't betting no money, I'm taking the Knicks in Minnesota.
- [41:12]
Joe Johnson
Hey, that boy named crime 85 crime.
- [41:15]
Shannon Sharpe
He don't pay, he sure don't love y' all, man. I appreciate it, Faith. Good to see you, man.
- [41:21]
Joe Johnson
I'll see you soon. All right?
- [41:23]
Shannon Sharpe
All right. Oh, how everybody know you don't damn pay?
- [41:29]
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, no, no, no. I'm finna pay. I'm finna pay. Listen, I'm gonna pay you right soon as Joe. When Joe send me that.
- [41:35]
Joe Johnson
That hunted the man. Them bamboozled me. Done got me into this bs. How you get me drag me into this?
- [41:42]
Chad Ochocinco
I ain't dragging. Chance. You're a part of the family now.
- [41:44]
Joe Johnson
You owe that man 5200. Way before I owed you a hundred. Now, you didn't let me into this.
- [41:49]
Chad Ochocinco
But I. I listen. Matter of fact, you know what? Face ain't tell y' all. Me and Face got a album coming out.
- [41:55]
Shannon Sharpe
They say doing no more music.
- [41:56]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, yeah, Me and Face, you gotta. Hey, hey, come here. Hey, hey, look what he said. Look. Hold on. One more.
- [42:12]
Joe Johnson
Yo, Eric Riley. Play with the Fab Five. Remember me?
- [42:16]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
- [42:17]
Chad Ochocinco
What's up, bro?
- [42:19]
Joe Johnson
I'm about to drop a book. About to drop a book. It's gonna be ready, like, a couple weeks, so don't.
- [42:26]
Shannon Sharpe
Don't let Ocho do nothing with that book.
- [42:30]
Joe Johnson
Yeah, it is, though. I don't know if you can see it.
- [42:35]
Shannon Sharpe
The sixth man.
- [42:36]
Joe Johnson
Yeah, sixth man. So I cover the first championship with Glenn Rice and Ramil as a freshman, and then the two Rockets championships.
- [42:47]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
- [42:48]
Joe Johnson
Okay. A lot to cover in that. Oh, so, man, y' all turn some AC on over there for my boy, man. Golly, Yeah. I mean, I'm sorry, man. Yeah, man, when I drop it, I mean, I don't know if we can figure it out and somehow. But, yeah, I need my information. Yeah, man, so.
- [43:07]
Shannon Sharpe
All right, well, appreciate you.
- [43:09]
Chad Ochocinco
All right, man.
- [43:13]
Shannon Sharpe
You can't go nowhere. Oh, that dude. To have everybody at the table.
- [43:20]
Chad Ochocinco
But listen, hey, I ain't mean to get off topic, right? I know we had a few interruption, but listen, that's good for the show, but me and. Me and Face, we've been in the studio. That's why I've been coming to Houston. Me and Face got a. Do a album coming out together.
- [43:31]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. I'm. I can't. I can't. I can't wait to see it.
- [43:34]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, no, hear it. You gonna hear it, not see it.
- [43:36]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I wanna. I wanna hear it. Yeah.
- [43:38]
Chad Ochocinco
Okay.
- [43:39]
Shannon Sharpe
You got. You got it coming out on MP3.
- [43:41]
Chad Ochocinco
No, no, no, it's on. It's on. It's on DVD.
- [43:45]
Joe Johnson
What's this? This rap, R B, whatever.
- [43:47]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, yeah. No, no. What you mean rap, man?
- [43:49]
Shannon Sharpe
This.
- [43:50]
Chad Ochocinco
Me and Scott Face.
- [43:51]
Joe Johnson
Rap.
- [43:52]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, yeah, we gonna rap like, hey, he. When he.
- [43:54]
Shannon Sharpe
So you on his album or he on your album?
- [43:56]
Chad Ochocinco
No, I'm on his album. We. It's like a duo. Like, when I.
- [43:59]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
- [44:00]
Chad Ochocinco
He heard me rap, he was like, dan, you remind me of Bushwick Bill. That's what Face told me. He like. Yeah, he. He told me. Like, I saw him outside, right? And I started rapping for him. He like, damn, I know you can spit. I said, yeah, we need to get in the studio. So we. Like, you know what? I'm assigning you. So I signed yesterday.
- [44:20]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, okay.
- [44:21]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, I'm a rap a lot.
- [44:23]
Joe Johnson
So you say. You kind of. You sound like Bushwick Bill.
- [44:25]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, I'm like Bushwick Bill.
- [44:28]
Joe Johnson
Okay.
- [44:28]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. And I could do. I make screw music, too.
- [44:33]
Joe Johnson
And chop the screw.
- [44:34]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, I do all that. I do all that.
- [44:37]
Shannon Sharpe
Wow. When you in the right place, you know?
- [44:38]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
- [44:40]
Shannon Sharpe
You know, J. Prince down there, you know? Matter of fact, 50 in Houston. You know Drake in Houston? Yeah.
- [44:47]
Joe Johnson
All them boys out there make it, too.
- [44:49]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [44:50]
Chad Ochocinco
We need to go ahead and move to Houston, man.
- [44:52]
Shannon Sharpe
Bun B. Yeah.
- [44:55]
Chad Ochocinco
I'm going to Trio Burgers tomorrow. Nah, Ocho, you don't want to move here.
- [45:00]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, hey. Next. Hey, if you ain't careful, next year this time, Unc, be. Have be locked it down.
- [45:08]
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, Unc, they out here, too, boy. You heard me. Unc, listen, I've been preaching. I've been preaching to you for, like, two years now. We come out here, give me a week, I'll make sure you're married.
- [45:21]
Joe Johnson
No.
- [45:21]
Shannon Sharpe
No, man.
- [45:22]
Chad Ochocinco
Look, you just said lockdown.
- [45:27]
Shannon Sharpe
Titus. Tell Ocho to leave me alone. Why this man keep bothering me, Titus?
- [45:31]
Joe Johnson
He ain't.
- [45:32]
Chad Ochocinco
And I'm trying to get you to the promised land, baby. And what better place to find it than not here in Houston. Long as you don't leave on Sunday, you're gonna be all right.
- [45:40]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, I mean, if I live out there, I'm gonna be out there every day.
- [45:43]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, well, you ain't got to stay.
- [45:46]
Shannon Sharpe
Man. I ain't got bread like that to be having four, five houses.
- [45:49]
Chad Ochocinco
Yes, you do. Well, you got money?
- [45:51]
Shannon Sharpe
No, I don't talk about.
- [45:54]
Chad Ochocinco
Hold on. We got money, so whatever you mind is yours. You get me? Yeah, I'm feeling good.
- [46:03]
Shannon Sharpe
Nicola Jokic. This playoff, he's first in points, first in rebounds, first in assists, first in steals, first in stocks, first in triple double doubles, first in triple doubles, first in field goals. Jokic plans on his plans this offseason. He said, well, we'll see. But for now, next couple of days, gonna be a lot of beer, probably. I mean, he's incredible. I mean, he. I mean, there. I mean, there's really no way to describe him. I mean, we haven't seen a guy. I mean, first in points, first in rebounds, assists, steals. Double double. Triple doubles, field goals.
- [46:39]
Joe Johnson
Yeah. No way.
- [46:41]
Shannon Sharpe
But. But, Joe, I feel in order for them to get back to where they were and won a championship, they're going to have to do something. With this lineup, everything. The only two people that shouldn't be touchable are he and Jamal Murray. Everything. I think I keep going. But Michael Porter Jr. I would entertain Michael Porter Jr. I would entertain Christian Braun.
- [47:01]
Chad Ochocinco
Wait a minute. Wait a minute.
- [47:02]
Justina Valentine
Huh?
- [47:04]
Chad Ochocinco
You know why he wasn't productive? Only because of the injury to his shoulder. So you might get the old Michael Porter jr Once he get a chance to heal?
- [47:11]
Shannon Sharpe
Nah. No. Even when he's healthy, he's still too inconsistent for the type of money that he makes. You can't run it back as is. You can't. You just can't.
- [47:25]
Chad Ochocinco
It ain't really nothing out there though, baby.
- [47:27]
Shannon Sharpe
It ain't something out there. There must be something out there.
- [47:30]
Chad Ochocinco
You want a championship with the, with the core group you got right now, why would you change that up?
- [47:35]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, Boston ran it back. You can't, Ocho. You gotta change something.
- [47:41]
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- [48:12]
Michael Kassin
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- [48:39]
Angeli Sud
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- [48:56]
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- [49:31]
Joe Johnson
They gonna have to whether it's even bringing bringing more firepower in off that bench. But yes, see for real I think, I think they needed Jamal Murray to play more like an all star. You know I probably had a decent game here and there but they need some consistency from him.
- [49:48]
Shannon Sharpe
He wasn't consistent like he, like when you play the Lakers he consisted every.
- [49:52]
Joe Johnson
Game he can't miss. He can't miss when he played the Lakers, he ultra aggressive. And I think that's the thing that we gotta get OKC credit about. Because your perimeter guys, man, they some way somehow kind of take him out of the game. And that's what kind of concerns me about the Timberwolves. Cause although Ant man is great and it's going to be hard to stop him, but they got guys who gonna sit down and move their feet. This ain't gonna be like the Lakers, where you just olay come down, you get past that and you got a dunk or a layup.
- [50:19]
Shannon Sharpe
Like.
- [50:22]
Joe Johnson
This is gonna be a fun and interesting series. And I ain't gonna lie, I'm nervous even picking the T Wolves, but I think it's their time.
- [50:29]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yes. And it's not gonna be like Golden State, because Golden State ain't got a whole lot of guys that can slide with it, but they got five or six guys that can slide. Lou Dort, they got Wallace, they got Caruso, they got Jalen Williams, they got Isaiah Joe, they got a lot of guys that can throw at him. And they got sides that can challenge him at the rim once he gets there. I ain't said they can stop it, but they can challenge it.
- [50:51]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, it's the game of basketball. Everybody challenging everybody. I just don't like the words that just came out of Joe mouth. The fact that he said I'm nervous even though he's picking the wolves. So, I mean, why don't you just flip side and go with the Thunder?
- [51:05]
Joe Johnson
Nah, I'm gonna stick with the T Wolves.
- [51:07]
Chad Ochocinco
Otra, you just said you nervous about your pick. See, you not confident. You supposed to be confident.
- [51:15]
Joe Johnson
And you can be confident and still and be a little nervous. Now, come on, now.
- [51:18]
Chad Ochocinco
Nah, nah, nah. See, like, I'm confident. If we play one on one, I'mma whoop your ass.
- [51:24]
Joe Johnson
Ain't no way you that confident in that. You ain't confident.
- [51:26]
Chad Ochocinco
I'm real, so I'm not nervous about that. That anytime you go into anything, Joe, if you have any type of.
- [51:31]
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, hey, hey. And you keep talking, I might not let you scope, so keep it up.
- [51:35]
Shannon Sharpe
Damn.
- [51:36]
Joe Johnson
Yeah. I might not let you scope, so keep it up.
- [51:39]
Chad Ochocinco
Joe, you really ain't never seen me hoop on.
- [51:42]
Joe Johnson
I ain't got to see you hoop. I did see you hoop, but.
- [51:45]
Chad Ochocinco
All right, listen, with all due respect, you played in the NBA. Well, you was that boy. They call you ISO Joe for a reason, Right? But you got to respect my game, man. I told you I might not let you score, bro, listen, in high school, I scored 56, 12 and 10.
- [52:02]
Joe Johnson
Man, you must have been playing 18 basketball. I don't know who you playing against in my 57.
- [52:09]
Chad Ochocinco
Can I tell you something?
- [52:10]
Shannon Sharpe
Here's the thing, Ocho. This how I know Joe. For real. Joe say. He didn't say score. He said he might not let you score. Yeah, I ain't let him say scope.
- [52:19]
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, can I say something?
- [52:20]
Shannon Sharpe
You ain't got nothing, Joe. You ain't got nothing.
- [52:22]
Chad Ochocinco
No, Joe, listen to me. I went to New York, right? I dropped 32 at Rucker Park. So how you gonna beat me? Think about that. I was 32 at Rucker Park.
- [52:32]
Joe Johnson
If it's just me and you on the court, partner, you ain't got a chance.
- [52:35]
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, but I'm like Ray Charles, boy. I don't see you.
- [52:38]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't see you.
- [52:39]
Chad Ochocinco
It's right at your game. At your game.
- [52:41]
Shannon Sharpe
You ain't gonna see me, right?
- [52:42]
Joe Johnson
You ain't gonna see me.
- [52:43]
Chad Ochocinco
All right. All right.
- [52:46]
Shannon Sharpe
After the game, Aaron Gordon had this to say. He said, I would really, really appreciate it if there were a couple of days between games in the playoffs instead of every other day, the product of the game would be a lot better. You'll see a higher level of basketball, probably less blowouts. Do you, Joe? Do you agree with what AG Is saying?
- [53:06]
Joe Johnson
Nah. This is. This has been the format for long, for however long. Like, we understand you got a knickknack, a little injury. But look, the show still gotta go on, my boy. You know what I mean?
- [53:19]
Shannon Sharpe
Man, y' all be playing in August. If they put two days in between.
- [53:21]
Joe Johnson
Every game, that's too much. Yeah, you get your little day, maybe two in between. If your body can't shake back from that, you just in trouble. That's just the way it's been. It's been. It's been like that forever, ain't. They ain't changing. They ain't changing. They giving these dude three, four days in between now.
- [53:36]
Chad Ochocinco
And they asked for a lot of rule first. They. They want to take the time off and go, what, 12 minutes a quarter, right, Joe?
- [53:42]
Joe Johnson
Yeah, it's 12.
- [53:43]
Chad Ochocinco
Listen, they were talking about going.
- [53:44]
Shannon Sharpe
They try to cut it down to 10. Like, I think what? Like, it's like Euro rules, right? Fever.
- [53:50]
Joe Johnson
Yeah, we like, man, we not doing all that.
- [53:52]
Shannon Sharpe
And now, you know, they talked about cutting the games, possibly playing 65 games or 70 games instead of the 82.
- [53:58]
Joe Johnson
From 82 in the minute.
- [54:00]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
- [54:00]
Joe Johnson
Okay, Ocho, them boys back in the 60s and 70s, man, they played 82 games. And Chuck Taylor, these boys got orthotics and all kind of things now. You mean, tell me they can't play 82 games?
- [54:13]
Shannon Sharpe
Adam Silver said, yeah, we gonna cut the game, but we gonna cut the pay, too. Let's see how many of them sign up for that. So in other words, you still want to make 50, 60, $70 million?
- [54:23]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
- [54:23]
Shannon Sharpe
In 70 games and 65 games. Oh, y' all. Okay, that's what y' all want. Okay, we gonna cut the pay. Let's see how many of them you think signing up for that Ocho.
- [54:33]
Chad Ochocinco
Nobody. None. Nobody at all.
- [54:37]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, and you get, you get. You got it better now. You just. I mean, just think about those. Like you said, your guys back then, they didn't have all the technology and all the treatment, the ice baths and all this, the nutrition and the physios and the personal trainers. They didn't have all that. They don't have the private jets. That jokers flew commercial.
- [54:56]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. And you know what, too? I wish. I'm sure we don't have enough time to do it right, but I don't. I wonder if Ash can do it. Were the injuries. Think about the injuries that we're getting in today's game. Right. Do you think the injuries were as prevalent or as many people got injured back then.
- [55:10]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [55:10]
Chad Ochocinco
As they are today?
- [55:12]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Magic Johnson and James Worthy was both hurt against Michael Jordan in his first championship. Remember, Isaiah pulled his hamstring, rolled his ankle. Absolutely. Kareem, remember everybody talks about that game that Magic had. That was because Kareem was out with an injury. So. Yes, absolutely. Yes, yes. It's just the fact of the matter is we didn't have a 24 hour news cycle. They didn't have social media, so everything got reported. But yes, there were injuries that were very, very prevalent back then that swung the tempo in the momentum of a series to. Absolutely.
- [55:46]
Chad Ochocinco
Okay. Okay.
- [55:47]
Shannon Sharpe
Absolutely. But this, this is a part of it. I mean, you guys play every other day. This is what it is.
- [55:56]
Joe Johnson
They not. Because they're not changing that. They not changing that.
- [55:59]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, they're playing every other day and they fly commercial. You think you gonna get three, two, three days off and you got a private jet? No, I don't see that happening. So we've already got it. Winning the 2025 NBA championship. Who will get crowned 2025 NBA champs? Ocho, who you got?
- [56:18]
Chad Ochocinco
New York Knicks.
- [56:20]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. Joe, who you got?
- [56:21]
Joe Johnson
I got the T Wolves. If the T. Wolves. Look, the T Wolves win. This series. Ain't no stopping them, bro. Ain't no stopping them. I know. Look, it'll be a great story to see Minnesota play against New York. The fact that they both swapped, you know, Cat.
- [56:38]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Kat and Drew. Ram.
- [56:39]
Chad Ochocinco
Julius Ram.
- [56:40]
Joe Johnson
I think that will be. I actually think that'll be a hell of a series. I do, too, but I. But I gotta take the T. Wolves, fellas.
- [56:49]
Chad Ochocinco
I don't know. Listen, I like the happy ending. I like for New York fans, for the Knicks players, for the Knicks organization. Even though everyone. No one likes Mr. James Dolan. I would like. I would like for the city in general. I think New York deserves it. It's been a very long time for them. And they do one. They do one. And I'm only picking the Knicks. Obviously, I'm a Heat fan, so I'm sticking with the team coming out the East.
- [57:18]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, Joe, who you got?
- [57:21]
Joe Johnson
They gonna. They'll flip New York upside down. Them for win.
- [57:25]
Shannon Sharpe
Listen, they go, man, you saw how they did after just going to the Eastern Conference finals. You could imagine what's going to happen if they go to the NBA Finals and then multiply that.
- [57:34]
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, listen, the Statue of Liberty hand ain't gonna be raised no more. She gonna be pointing at you.
- [57:42]
Shannon Sharpe
Man. You see how profane they are, man? They're about to be bad. The fan New York fans about to be on one.
- [57:48]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
- [57:49]
Joe Johnson
Yes.
- [57:49]
Shannon Sharpe
And consider they hadn't won a. I mean, you got to go back to 73. It's a good cycle, huh?
- [57:56]
Joe Johnson
It's a good sight to see. It's good to see the fanatic of the fans and the NBA and the way they. They really rough for they Knicks, man. This has been. This has been, I'm sure for them, an interesting, you know, playoff run. Because, you know, nobody had them beating Boston, man. They came, they went in there and won them first two games and basically took control of the series, and the rest is history. But, man, what's to come is. Is going to be something special.
- [58:23]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
- [58:24]
Shannon Sharpe
All right, guys, we got a very, very special guest joining us. She's a rapper, actress, host, freestyle extraordinaire, Justina Valentini. How are you doing?
- [58:35]
Justina Valentine
What up? What up, Chad? What up, Joe? What's going on? How's everyone feeling tonight?
- [58:39]
Shannon Sharpe
What's good, man? I am. This is.
- [58:44]
Chad Ochocinco
Look, I'm trying to battle. I'm trying to battle. Ocho.
- [58:47]
Justina Valentine
Ocho.
- [58:47]
Joe Johnson
Trying to battle.
- [58:50]
Justina Valentine
How much money you got on it? Cause, you know, I'm not.
- [58:55]
Chad Ochocinco
I got 5200. What's up?
- [58:58]
Joe Johnson
Hey, I got my money. I got my money on Christina.
- [59:01]
Justina Valentine
I'm a lot more expensive than that. 5200.
- [59:06]
Chad Ochocinco
I'm gonna give you 5200 to battle, right? And whatever I owe you, I'm gonna.
- [59:11]
Justina Valentine
Post on my story for 5200.
- [59:14]
Shannon Sharpe
There you go. Talk to him, Justina. Talk to him.
- [59:16]
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, it sounds like. It sound like you scared to battle. That's what I hear.
- [59:19]
Justina Valentine
Oh, baby, I'm not. Oh, baby, I'm not scared. I just know my words.
- [59:24]
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Hey, she trying to get to the money.
- [59:29]
Justina Valentine
So. No, but. But, you know, Uncle, I did actually just shout you out in a. In a rap I posted on Instagram.
- [59:35]
Shannon Sharpe
Did you?
- [59:36]
Justina Valentine
Yeah, I did. And it's crazy because my boy, you know, Charlie Clips Battle, rap legend, he just FaceTimed me.
- [59:43]
Chad Ochocinco
I3old him already.
- [59:45]
Justina Valentine
You said what?
- [59:45]
Chad Ochocinco
I3old Charlie already. Yeah.
- [59:48]
Justina Valentine
Come on now. You3old Charlie clips.
- [59:50]
Chad Ochocinco
I3old Charlie clips. Ask him. Him DNA on Harlem.
- [59:54]
Justina Valentine
I'm calling right now. I'm going to call him. I'm going to call him and ask him.
- [59:56]
Chad Ochocinco
Ask him.
- [59:57]
Justina Valentine
All right, I will. So, look, he just FaceTimed me, unk, and we were talking about the show we got coming up, and I said, oh, I'm about to, you know, jump on with Shay Shake and everything. He said, oh, man, you gonna tell me? Just shouted him out in a rap. I said, I completely forgot. Yeah, just last week. Hey, hey, Clips, look, I'm on here with, you know, Unc, Shay, Shay, we got Ocho Cinco in here. We got Joe Johnson, and Chad right here said that he beat you in a rap. He say three old you. Oh, you smoked him crazy on YouTube.
- [60:32]
Chad Ochocinco
Why is he lying? Tell him. Don't lie like that. Hey.
- [60:36]
Justina Valentine
Oh, not hey, Clips.
- [60:37]
Chad Ochocinco
You can't do nothing with me, son. Don't lie to people like that, man. What you talking about, B? Yo, yo. Oh, listen, man, look, you retired on.
- [60:47]
Justina Valentine
Football on your own terms.
- [60:49]
Shannon Sharpe
I retired you in battle rap. You never battled again after that.
- [60:53]
Justina Valentine
That.
- [60:54]
Chad Ochocinco
Hold on, I'm. Wait, hey, I'm f. In the battle. I'm waiting on surf to get out. I'm going to three on him.
- [61:00]
Shannon Sharpe
Yo, free the wave.
- [61:01]
Justina Valentine
Surf gonna smoke you definitely. Free the wave.
- [61:05]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [61:09]
Justina Valentine
Oh, DNA too, huh? Oh, this is crazy. I didn't know he battled DNA too.
- [61:14]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, I'm really. I'm really like that.
- [61:16]
Shannon Sharpe
That's why you scared to be out like that.
- [61:17]
Justina Valentine
Justine, bro, I'm gonna call you when I get off here, all right? We already lost the three of my comrades that's crazy. What's up, unk?
- [61:29]
Shannon Sharpe
Let me ask you this, you guys. You kind of got your start on wilding out with Nick Cannon. Did you expect to receive the love and the respect that you received when you went on that show? So what were your expectations when you went on wilding out?
- [61:42]
Justina Valentine
You know, when I went and audition for wild n out, that was not my plan or trajectory at all at the time. You know, I was just out here in these streets like Chad. I was rapping. You know what I mean? I was taking people's money, just like. You know what I mean? Just like, you know, Chad over here. And I just really wanted to be an artist, you know, her singer, songwriter, and, yeah, tv. I was not looking to be on tv, but a good friend of mine, Tonio skits, he came to one of my music videos, and he's really nice with the beatbox. So he started beatboxing. I started freestyling. Snapchat was lit at the time, and so he's posting on a Snapchat and he's like, yo, sis, you gotta audition for this show. I'm about to audition for wild N out. I was like, oh, that's the one where they come up with the songs on the spot. I'm like, I'll kill that. So he's the one who connected me with the producers, and that's my brother, always. Cause, you know, most people won't really look out like that, especially when he wasn't even on the show yet. But he connected me with the executive producers, and I sent in a bunch of videos of me freestyling outside in New York at sobs on b real's radio show. Just a bunch of different freestyles. They invited me to come audition, and I bodied it. You know, I knew I bodied it. I knew I killed the audition. So they brought me back, and then they brought me back again. And then I met Nick. And I remember at that audition, it was all the people from the tri state, New York, New Jersey, maybe even, you know, Connecticut, Boston, whatever else was close. It was all of us. And, you know, we did the audition and they had us do a bunch of different games. And when it got to wyld style, I just sat back a little bit. You know, it was like 15 on one side of the room, 15 on the other side of the room.
- [63:23]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, yeah. You like? Okay, I'm vibing this.
- [63:25]
Justina Valentine
Okay, yeah, I'm vibing. And then as soon as someone hit me, I just. Like a machine gun, I went down the whole other side and Then when everyone was leaving, shaking the producer's hand, shaking Nick's hand, I remember I was the only one Nick said something to. He was like, where you from? And I was like, jersey. And he was like, all right. And I just left audition knowing that, you know, if you say, you know.
- [63:45]
Shannon Sharpe
You had it, get ready, you. You knew, you knew you had bodied it. So you knew you was gonna get the call back, that you were gonna be a regular.
- [63:53]
Justina Valentine
Yeah, yeah. So I got the call back and then the rest was history. I shot my first season. That was season eight and I've been on for 14 seasons now. I'm the longest running female. So I guess, you know, when you said, how did I think I was gonna be received? I really didn't know. I just knew. Being a female, being white, I just knew I always had to really be that.
- [64:17]
Shannon Sharpe
You had to be like that?
- [64:19]
Justina Valentine
Yeah, I had to really be like that because nobody. People didn't want to give it up for me in general. That was just always my experience. I ran around to all these open mics throughout New York and, you know, I always had to be like the nicest in the room to, you know, so I was just ready. I was ready. I was hungry and, you know, once I got the opportunity, I just went for it. And, you know, the fan base loved me. Shout to them because they really make us who we are. And then everything took off from there.
- [64:52]
Shannon Sharpe
Were you always good on the mic? Were you always quick witted? Were you always? Did you always. Is that what you always wanted to do? Were you that? Were you that young lady that like, people looking at you like, why you trying to be black? You white, why you can't do? I'm sure you probably got a little bit of that for like you said, you are a young lady, a woman now, and you were doing things that there were not a whole lot of white rappers, female rappers when you were coming up?
- [65:19]
Justina Valentine
Well, you know what's funny? It's a lot of white rappers, men, because the industry of them, some white men I could name you, like, probably 50 white rappers right now. Yes, it is a lot. It's a, it's a lot of white rappers, but yeah, not female. So, yeah, I definitely got a lot of everything. I got a lot of, you know, friction. I really had to grind to get where I got and I really had to cut my teeth and nothing was easy for me. Nobody wanted to, you know, let me in. I had no connection. Didn't know anybody who knew anybody who knew anyone. I'm Looking at my mom, I'm like, you don't know nobody. Nobody know nobody.
- [66:01]
Shannon Sharpe
Like, you know, so got no connect.
- [66:03]
Justina Valentine
Yeah, no connect. You know, it's. It's hard in Jersey. We don't have a radio station. We don't have a sports team. We don't have shit. Brief for a fleeting moment. They took that, right. Joe, you. You was with the.
- [66:17]
Shannon Sharpe
We had.
- [66:17]
Justina Valentine
We, you know, so, yeah, I really, really had to work hard. And, yeah, I was always nice with the words. I always had, you know, the gift of gab was always really good to put my words together. And I think when you just have a natural gift and then you use that gift a lot, you just get a lot better. So once people be like, yo, yeah, like this white girl, like, she freestyle. She's crazy with it. Everyone wanted to see me do it. So I was running around everywhere just, you know, freestyling open mics. And I used to go to the real ones in the city, EO Dub, where, you know, they would beat, juggle, they would slow down the beat, speed up the beat like crazy shit that people just don't even do anymore. Which is why when I went to Sway, shout out to Sway. I love him. One of my favorite people in the industry. And I did the Five Fingers of Death. I'm the first and only female to spit a real freestyle completely off the top. DJ Wonder was speeding up the beat and slowing it down, and they hadn't done that in years. Years. So I asked, and I went on Sway, bodied it. Wonder gave me the most trash beats. Speeding up the beat, bodied it. And. But I said to Wonder, after I said, damn, Wonder, I said, no, I actually said this way. I said, I'm surprised you guys were changing the, you know, the BPM of the beat. He said, yeah, we haven't done that in years because no one could do it. And this is people who come with written. So I said to Wonder, so why'd you do it to me? Cause I knew he was trying to fuck me up. And he said, because you were talking so much shit that, you know, he really wanted to test me. But it just, like, made me shine more. So it's. I've always had to do that. Like, that's always been kind of, you.
- [68:02]
Shannon Sharpe
Know, you had to be that much better in order to get just as far as someone that was average that was doing it. You had to be a step above a cut above the rest.
- [68:11]
Justina Valentine
Correct. But I really think, you know, God put me on TV for a reason, because, you know, TV I got on tv and TV embraced me so much. I got on Wild N Out, and because of Wild N Out, I had great success. I grew this platform. And then from Wild N Out, they. They, you know, made me a host on trl. They made me the host. The how far is Tattoo Far Revenge Prank, the Challenge, the Justina Valentine Show, Basic, the Bougie. I'm the host now of Jersey Shore. Like, it opened up so many doors for me that music just wasn't ready to. So, like, TV and film. And then from there I started doing film. Like, that was really the biggest blessing. And I think God just knew, like, nah, you know, go this way. It's a lot more money this way. Go this way. That's what happened.
- [68:56]
Chad Ochocinco
Matter of fact, your work ethic, obviously, with what you have going on, I mean, listen, the proof is in the pudding. You got it out the mud. You've done it the hard way, and you put the work in. So you've been blessed with many opportunities. You won many hats, though. Rapper, actress, writer, producer and host, obviously. How do you decide which hat to wear on any given project? Is it the money issue or are the products that are given to you? Do you. You always take things that fit you and which way you want to go and envision?
- [69:29]
Justina Valentine
Yeah, I think it's always about what's the most important thing at the moment. Like, for example, in 2022, we shot like three seasons of wild n out. We did two tours, and I shot a movie that, like, I wrote, I directed, I starred in, I got my Eddie Murphy on. I play six characters. I financed. I did everything from A to Z for this movie. So it really monopolized my year. So that year I really didn't do. I didn't drop any music except for I did the soundtrack for my movie. So that year is like, you know, music took a little backseat, and all my efforts and energy went into the movie, which was the most ambitious thing I've ever done, but also made me that one thing was my biggest payday, that one project. So it's like, you know, that year was all about tv, film, tour, you know, and so, like, music took a backseat. So for me, I'm very fortunate to be able to do the projects and the things that I want to do. Of course, Wild N Out, I'm always going to do. Nick could call me. I'm always pulling up for Nick. We'll be doing Wild N Out until the people don't want to Wild out anymore, which they want to keep. Wild N Out you know, So I love that. And it's like we used to say, every time Nick made a new pregnancy announcement, we would announce a new season. That was always like a beautiful thing. But look, he hasn't announced a pregnancy in a while and we're still shooting. So I love to see it. So I'll always pull up for Nick. I'll always pull up for Wild N Out and Wild N Out is what gave me my platform. So I'm always beyond grateful to Nick, beyond grateful to Wild N Out. So I'm always making time and space for Wild N Out, no matter what's going on, you know.
- [71:12]
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- [73:01]
Chad Ochocinco
I have one more question. When it comes to all the projects that you're doing, how important for you? Based on your vision and what you want to do that fit you in the lane that you're in, how important is creative control? On the projects that you're doing, it's.
- [73:16]
Justina Valentine
Very important to me, especially because, like, you know, like, with the movie I mentioned and then myself and my cast member conceded. Shout out to Co N another battle rap legend. We just produced a TV show that we sold to Kevin Hart. Shout out to Kevin the LOL Network. It came out on Peacock and Tubi and all these projects. Like, I'm producing, and I'm literally on the cutting room floor with the editor. Like, I really. Once I have the vision, I really have the vision. Sometimes I'm too hands on. They're like, all right, just, like, chill. Like, give us a week. We not done yet. Like, it's not even color corrected. So I am very hands on. Sometimes too hands on. So my answer is I'm very involved in the creative from A to Z. Cause I think especially. And I know you guys can all relate because you have your own. All your own stuff going on, your own brands, your own shows, et cetera. So it's like, you have a vision for it, and you really want to see it through. So, yeah, I'm very involved.
- [74:17]
Shannon Sharpe
But the thing is, Justina, like, yeah, you're great at freestyling, but you can roast. And normally, you know, that's an art in and of itself. People don't understand that. That we call it. Joan and I went to an hbcu, so we call it Joaning or ragging or bagging on somebody. Whatever y' all. We call it roasting, whatever the case may be. But for you to rap, and you can roast also, because to be great at roasting, you've gotta be off the cuff, because it ain't no, I'm gonna come back tomorrow and get you. I gotta get you. As soon as you done with yours, I gotta be firing right back at you. How are you able to do that? So are you listening? Like, okay, so this what we doing. Okay, go ahead.
- [74:58]
Joe Johnson
Go ahead. You first.
- [74:59]
Shannon Sharpe
So how does it just. Because it seems like it just comes so natural to you.
- [75:03]
Justina Valentine
Yeah, no, it really does. And I think I just go into demon mode. Like, when we're in the box office, someone's rapping at me. I'm just. I'm listening. I think one part of my brain is listening to what they're saying to me, and then another part of my brain is just, like, really sizing them up. And it's so funny to me when people are like, oh, you know, do you guys have writers on Wild N Out? I. I crack up because I. I look at them, and I'm like, if you think I could buy a rap From. From someone like a writer. Come on. Like, they would. First of all, like, they would never give someone like me anything because they know I'm already like. It's people on the stage that are already lethal. Do you think we could get help even if we wanted to?
- [75:46]
Shannon Sharpe
We should. You.
- [75:46]
Justina Valentine
30 episodes in 10 days. That means three episodes every day. Do you. Everyone on the stage has something for me. They have something for me, they have something for dc. It's just certain people that everybody has something for the guests to the other castmates. It's like, you know, there have been battles that I've done on the show when guests have came, celebrity guests, and haven't been aired because those people teams have requested for it not to be aired.
- [76:19]
Chad Ochocinco
Wait, hold on, hold on. Can you do me a favor? See, on here, everything is a greeny light, right? Everything is a green light on here. And I'm not worried about being roasted because my grandma used to call me ugly. But can you give us an example of how good you are off the top of the head and roast me real quick?
- [76:37]
Justina Valentine
All right, go ahead. Hit me first with something.
- [76:40]
Chad Ochocinco
You want me to hit you first?
- [76:41]
Justina Valentine
Yeah.
- [76:41]
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, hold on, hold on.
- [76:42]
Shannon Sharpe
Get it, Justina.
- [76:44]
Justina Valentine
Come on, Chad, let's go.
- [76:46]
Chad Ochocinco
You sure?
- [76:47]
Justina Valentine
Yeah. Come on.
- [76:48]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm with Justina. Team Justina. You should have got me a T shirt.
- [76:53]
Chad Ochocinco
Whose side you on?
- [76:54]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm on Justina.
- [76:55]
Justina Valentine
What you mean?
- [76:57]
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me think of something good. Okay, okay, okay, okay. You ready?
- [77:03]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm ready.
- [77:04]
Chad Ochocinco
Uncle. You got to pay attention, man. I need you.
- [77:07]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, I'm getting ready to fall up my chair when she tear your ass up.
- [77:10]
Chad Ochocinco
Go ahead, uncle side. You on?
- [77:15]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm on. Justine, I just told you.
- [77:17]
Chad Ochocinco
Damn.
- [77:18]
Shannon Sharpe
That's.
- [77:18]
Chad Ochocinco
That's. That's messed up. I'm supposed to be.
- [77:19]
Justina Valentine
Dang, you taking a long time.
- [77:21]
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, no. I'm trying to make sure he on my side, but here we go. Okay, Here we go. Okay. If I holler at Justina, she better holler back before she got that bbl. That ass used to be solid flat.
- [77:36]
Justina Valentine
Uh huh.
- [77:37]
Chad Ochocinco
Bonnie look like she smoked a lot of crack that, huh? Now she got that red hair like Jessica Rabbit. So I said, roger that, huh? I'm about to do a violin act, huh? Hold on. Okay. We could have had.
- [77:55]
Shannon Sharpe
Him. Get him.
- [77:57]
Justina Valentine
Justina, Joe, Unc, and Chad. All athletes. I will run with him. I will get with Uncle Shay. Shay. But after 22, he's done with him. In fact, watch how I'mma leave you. I know you like it in the ass. That's why you was a wide receiver. You. You got or you want to keep going?
- [78:21]
Shannon Sharpe
Justina. Justina.
- [78:23]
Chad Ochocinco
How did I do this?
- [78:26]
Justina Valentine
You just caught a straight. You standing out.
- [78:30]
Chad Ochocinco
Hold on. I ain't. I ain't finished. All right, I'm coming back. This ain't what you really want to do. Nah, you got it. I'm gonna let you have that one.
- [78:39]
Shannon Sharpe
No, no. Get it again.
- [78:42]
Justina Valentine
I'm glad you stopped there, because the thing is about me, this second round is about to go crazy because she don't know.
- [78:48]
Shannon Sharpe
She don't know where to stop.
- [78:49]
Justina Valentine
Look, I will three.
- [78:50]
Chad Ochocinco
I will three zero you on here. I'm a real battle rapper.
- [78:54]
Justina Valentine
All right, Google Head, what's my next?
- [78:56]
Chad Ochocinco
I done beat. I done beat everybody. Ask Hitman about me.
- [79:03]
Justina Valentine
I'm gonna definitely ask Hitman about you because y' all got the same head. Y' all both look like a milk duck. I'm gonna definitely answer that. And I'm not gonna lie. You and Hitman have the same teeth. Y' all went to the same. Y' all didn't say medium. Y' all said just extra large. Dog. Do what? You look like a bunch of Apple iPhone chargers in your mouth. Ones in your mouth.
- [79:22]
Joe Johnson
Leave that girl on.
- [79:23]
Chad Ochocinco
What?
- [79:25]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, that what I'm talking about.
- [79:27]
Chad Ochocinco
That's what I'm talking about, sis. I love.
- [79:30]
Justina Valentine
Hey, no, Chad, honestly, I definitely. I mess with you. I love people that go off the top of their head. So if you and me one day in the same place, at some time, somebody want to double team, double team us. No, no, Bitty. Just like, you know, ra. I'm with it.
- [79:45]
Chad Ochocinco
I appreciate it. Listen, listen, honestly, I didn't. I didn't have an opportunity to tell you because obviously we doing the show and, you know, but I'm a fan of yours. Always have been. I watched Wild N Out religiously. Some of the other projects and stuff you have going on away from Wild N Out, I've also watched as well. I just want to say I salute you, and I wish you much success and all that you do, sis. Man, you. You're a real one.
- [80:07]
Shannon Sharpe
He trying to butter you up, Justina.
- [80:10]
Justina Valentine
No, but thank you so much, and I really appreciate y' all. And of course, I'm a fan of. Of y' all as well. And, you know, I definitely gotta. One day, I want to sit on Shayshay's couch as well, you know?
- [80:21]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, you want to be on Club Shay Shay?
- [80:22]
Justina Valentine
Yeah, we'll definitely. We'll get the freestyle going in person. We'll set up the beat. We'll. That good stuff, you know?
- [80:29]
Shannon Sharpe
Are you gonna have. Are you gonna have a drink? Are you gonna have a drink? Are you gonna have a drink with me?
- [80:33]
Justina Valentine
I have a drink with you. If I. If I start drinking, we're gonna really be. You're gonna have to bring a few people in there to battle me. You know what I'm saying? No, I definitely have a drink with you. I can't come on Club Shay and not have a drink.
- [80:46]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, that's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about.
- [80:48]
Justina Valentine
Yeah, go ahead.
- [80:49]
Shannon Sharpe
O.
- [80:50]
Chad Ochocinco
That's it. That's it. I was gonna give.
- [80:52]
Shannon Sharpe
No what I want. Let me ask you this, Justina. Like, when you go at the guys, do you ever. Do you ever feel. Do you ever feel bad going at the guys? Or do they. Or do they ever take it personal?
- [81:04]
Justina Valentine
Nah, I would say as far as. Okay, so the inner circle of Wild N Out, which is, you know, those of us that go on tour.
- [81:12]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. You D.C. chico.
- [81:14]
Justina Valentine
Yeah. Like, those are all my brothers, you know, and it's like, those are all my brothers and my sisters, like, that inner circle that goes on tour. And. And we all know what it is. We have said everything to each other. You know what I mean? So that's all love. Now, there have definitely been guests that have came on the show, and I'm just looking like, had they not watched the show before, they've definitely probably been offended.
- [81:40]
Chad Ochocinco
They came on Wild and Out and got offended.
- [81:42]
Justina Valentine
Yeah, like. And it's just like, wow. Like I said, it's been some battles that I've done that have never seen the light of tv. And one in particular, one, the producer, called me. She's like, yo, yo, Tina. She would call me Tina. She's like, yo, I'm watching the battle with so and so and yo, you are that bitch. And I was like, yo, I can't wait to see it. You know what? Like, episode. Is that gonna be the season? She's like, oh, no, you're not gonna see it.
- [82:10]
Shannon Sharpe
Damn.
- [82:11]
Justina Valentine
She was like, no. She was like, you destroyed that girl. Soon as that, we were done filming, her team came up to us and said, you cannot not air. And I was like, damn. So, yeah, that never aired. There's been a bunch of. Bunch of battles I've did that, you know, have never aired. But to be honest with you, I usually. I never hit a girl first. I hit her back. I'll knock her Out. But I don't hit her first. I. Oh, the. I beat up on the guys. I always hit the guys first, but with the girls, I don't hit them first. But if a girl hits me first now it's, you know, it's. Yeah, it's on.
- [82:46]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
- [82:48]
Shannon Sharpe
You've been at this for a while. So what's the next step? What's the evolution of Justina?
- [82:54]
Justina Valentine
So the evolution for me is definitely, you know, concentrating on this TV and film stuff. We just wrapped up season two of what's Cooking Good Looking. That's the TV show that me and Conceded do. Second season. Super funny. We have Michael Blackson, Jess. Hilarious. We had Lola, Brooke, Cash, Cobain, Maino. So we just wrapped that up. I just finished writing another script for a movie that I want to go into production with this summer. Super funny. Really looking forward to shooting this. Touring with Wild N Out. We back on tour this year, so I'm definitely going to be on the road with everybody and, you know, dropping music in between doing everything. I just dropped a record called Drip Drop. Super upbeat Fly. Just feel good music and just keep working. That's the thing about me. I stay with an attitude of gratitude, and I never feel like, oh, I'm happy to be here. Like, oh, I got a lot of bread now. I could chill. No, I just feel like I worked really, really hard to do. I worked really, really hard to be able to do what I love and to be here. So with everything I do, if I'm walking on the set for my 14th season of wild N Out, I'm never here. Like, oh, yeah, they know I'm that bitch. I could chill. No, I'm working hard. Like, it's my first day. I'm hungry. Like, it's my first day. So that's just the attitude I keep with everything I do. So I'm working on a lot of projects between tv, film, and dropping music in between and just waiting, really, to get to Shayshay's couch. I'm one white bitch that don't talk. Shay. Shay. I'm Italian, baby.
- [84:27]
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, okay.
- [84:29]
Justina Valentine
Yeah. Shay Shay said, like, have a good night, y' all. No, I'm just saying, like, you know, yeah, I'm different type of life, so don't worry about that.
- [84:36]
Shannon Sharpe
We gonna get you on the blackbascade.
- [84:37]
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- [84:38]
Shannon Sharpe
But I don't want you to divulge too much, because I want you to divulge it on the couch. Tell us something, because we see you on Wild N Out. We've seen you in some of your other projects? What do you like? What do you like off camera? What do you like away from the set? What do you like to do?
- [84:53]
Justina Valentine
Oh, what do I like to do away from the set? I'm very much into dogs. I work with a lot of rescues, rescue organizations. I feel like, of course, I don't never want to see anyone or anything abused, But I feel like when it comes to animals, we're really their voice. So I work with a lot of dog organizations, just in general. I like to help people. I do a lot of stuff behind the scenes. I'm one of those people. I don't post about, like, my good deeds and stuff. It's kind of like a pet peeve of mine, like, you know, when people, like, do something good and post it. So I just work with a bunch of the foundations and help people behind the scenes as far as dogs and humans go. And then in the meantime, in between time, you know, I like to study the things I'm trying to do. So, you know, the TV shows that I'm really into, from raising Kanan to Snowfall, was my joint, Walking Dead. I like to watch and see different camera angles and different TV shows and movies. And then, like, I kind of write that into my script. Like, oh, I want to the overhead shot looking down on the bed. So I'm just a student of the game, whether it comes to music or whether it comes to film and tv. So that's what I do in between doing my other stuff, is just pay attention, watch and learn.
- [86:10]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, that's amazing. Justina, thank you for your time. We appreciate you stopping by. Nightcap. We definitely gonna have you on Club Shay Shay. We don't. We haven't. I don't know. I'm trying to think. I don't think we've ever had a white woman on the show, so.
- [86:22]
Justina Valentine
Well, Shay Shay, we know what happens with you and white women, but I'm looking at. I'm a different kind, Unc. I've been to the cookout for a long time now. Don't worry about it.
- [86:37]
Chad Ochocinco
As a matter of fact, before you go. Right. Before you go, we done got round one out of the way. I need to make sure we get round two and three.
- [86:45]
Justina Valentine
We gonna do two and three?
- [86:46]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, two and three. I mean, listen, we gotta do three rounds. We don't have to do it today because we gotta finish up. Right. But when I see you, I'd rather do it in person. So you can actually feel everything I'm singing.
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Justina Valentine
I can feel your energy.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, I Need you to feel you.
- [86:59]
Justina Valentine
So now look, we could do round two right now and then we do round.
- [87:02]
Chad Ochocinco
I don't want to do round two right now.
- [87:03]
Justina Valentine
But he wants. He want study. My man want to study.
- [87:06]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, I need. I need. I need to finish doing my homework.
- [87:09]
Justina Valentine
Huh? You want to study? That's one thing about me. I don't need to do my homework. You feel me? Oh, I don't even have to reach you.
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Shannon Sharpe
She got that jersey. She got that jersey. I mean, you got.
- [87:17]
Justina Valentine
I don't have to do my homework. That's cuz I'm the teacher.
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Chad Ochocinco
If you. If you from Jersey, jd. That bit. Okay?
- [87:23]
Justina Valentine
That's my motto. I'm still trying to figure out how the you got Evelyn Lozado down. I'mma keep it real simple. You must have been the one that was jerking off when Diddy put that up on his nipple. I got to go.
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Chad Ochocinco
Hey, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
- [87:46]
Justina Valentine
I love you. Thank you for having me. One thing about it, Chad, when you're dead, just. Just play dead until. Do your homework for next time and then don't worry about it. You gotta come prepare. See, that's one thing about me. I'm not a bully. I don't like beating up on people.
- [88:05]
Chad Ochocinco
You know what? Hey, don't say nothing. Hold on. You know, listen. We could have had a live date. Now, Justina Valentine, I'm about to have it my way. I usually give a woman flowers, candy, and cars, but this ain't finna be Valentine's Day, you unsee.
- [88:23]
Justina Valentine
That's why I told you to do your homework, because you don't want to end on a low note.
- [88:27]
Chad Ochocinco
See, it was very high until you interrupted me. I'mma let you have it, though. We gonna finish.
- [88:32]
Shannon Sharpe
We gonna finish.
- [88:33]
Chad Ochocinco
We gonna finish. We gonna finish.
- [88:34]
Shannon Sharpe
That's rapper, actress extraordinaire host Justina Valentine, wilding out from wilding out. Watch her own. She's on season. What? What's. What season are you guys on?
- [88:45]
Justina Valentine
So season 21 is going to be airing this summer, so definitely check out for that. We're coming. Check out my brand new single, Drip Drop. And check out season one of what's Cooking Good Looking. Season two coming soon. Thank y' all so much for having me. Joe, Chad, unk and unk. Remember, I'm a white girl you could trust. We gonna talk more later.
- [89:09]
Shannon Sharpe
Boy. Some things I'm just gonna never live down there.
- [89:13]
Joe Johnson
Look, look. Y' all better leave Justina alone.
- [89:18]
Chad Ochocinco
You're gonna be good, baby. You Got your umbrella, baby. Just weather the storm. You're gonna be good.
- [89:23]
Joe Johnson
Yes.
- [89:29]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, she came ready.
- [89:31]
Joe Johnson
Oh, wordplay. Stairs, boy.
- [89:32]
Chad Ochocinco
I mean, listen, man.
- [89:33]
Shannon Sharpe
No, she came. She came ready. She came.
- [89:35]
Chad Ochocinco
She came ready, right? She came ready, right? But listen, my word play serious, too. I got to give a gap, too. I've been a yapper before yapping was actually considered yapping. I've been talking for a long time now. You can't.
- [89:45]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, Joe, we. We more. We more of a Jonah. I mean, like that battle rapping. We more Jonas. We more tell a joke.
- [89:53]
Chad Ochocinco
I got a mentor, right? I got a mentor at battle rap, right? Twerking, twerking, DNA, then my mentors. That's why I can hang when I'm on that stage and I'm in the presence of those that do that.
- [90:04]
Joe Johnson
Okay?
- [90:04]
Chad Ochocinco
You feel me? So because of the DNA, I can get in there and I can do what I need to do. Now, see, she told me to end on a low note because she know I was finna turn it up a notch. I was finna turn up the volume. And she like, hold on, let me say something real quick. So don't keep going. See, y' all ain't noticed that somebody. Hey, in battle rap, when somebody's rapping, you never interrupt. So she interrupted for a reason. So I can't really give her that seasoning.
- [90:29]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
- [90:30]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
- [90:30]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. Yeah.
- [90:32]
Chad Ochocinco
All right.
- [90:32]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah. I'm more of a. I'm more of a Jonah. But she was unbelievable, man.
- [90:38]
Chad Ochocinco
She was dope. She dope. She real dope.
- [90:41]
Shannon Sharpe
You got. That was supposed to be off. Eli, I caught more strains than you. You were supposed to be the target.
- [90:47]
Chad Ochocinco
It.
- [90:48]
Shannon Sharpe
I've been the collateral day, but I got the blast radio.
- [90:51]
Chad Ochocinco
Listen, listen. We. We a team, so anything happened to you, it happened to me, too, okay? It's like the Titanic. When it go down, we going down together.
- [91:00]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, I knew they were shooting outside. That's why they take my black ass out there. I ain't want none of that.
- [91:07]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it.
- [91:11]
Justina Valentine
The volume foreign.
- [91:16]
Michael Kassin
Founder and CEO of 3C Ventures, and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Angeli Su, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming.
- [91:30]
Angeli Sud
What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There's so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen.
- [91:45]
Michael Kassin
Listen to Good company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Chad Ochocinco
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