Nightcap Hour 1: Thunder ROLL Lakers in Game 1 + Pistons IN CONTROL of Cavs + NBA Ratings BOOMING + Jr Smith Gets TRAMPLED in New York

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Nightcap Hour 1 (May 6, 2026)

Topic: NBA Playoffs Deep Dive – Thunder roll over Lakers, Pistons' control, NBA ratings boom, and J.R. Smith’s NYC experience
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe (Unc), Chad Ochocinco Johnson (Ocho), ISO Joe Johnson (Joe)

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Episode Overview

This episode of Nightcap on Club Shay Shay takes a spirited look at the opening salvos of the 2026 NBA playoffs. Shannon, Chad, and Joe break down the dominant OKC Thunder win over the Lakers in Game 1, discuss Detroit's big victory over Cleveland, analyze James Harden and Donovan Mitchell’s struggles, debate the surging NBA TV ratings, and share laughs about J.R. Smith getting bowled over by hyped-up Knicks fans. The trio blends technical basketball analysis with signature humor, banter, and seasoned player insight.

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Key Segment Breakdowns

1. Thunder DOMINATE Lakers in Game 1

[02:22–24:24]

• OKC Thunder win 108–90 over Lakers:
  • Chet Holmgren: 24 pts, 12 reb, 3 blk
  • SGA: “relatively quiet” (18 pts, 6 ast, 2 blk), well below 20+ streak
  • Lakers’ Austin Reaves: “atrocious” (3/16 FG, 0/5 3PT, more turnovers than FGs)
  • Lakers’ supporting cast and bench “non-existent”

Notable Quotes & Analysis:

• “With Austin Reaves giving you these numbers and the bench basically non-existent, you’re not going to be able to beat OKC.”
  – Shannon Sharpe (03:47)

• “It’s the pressure, man. The pressure that those guys bring not only at you offensive UNC and oo, but defensively, bro. They fuel off them turnovers.”
  – ISO Joe Johnson (06:02)

• OKC’s relentless defense and transition game praised; their bench production and team completeness highlighted as an ongoing theme.

• On LeBron:

  • “I don’t think we could expect LeBron James to be this efficient… The game seemed real easy for him tonight.”
    – Sharpe & Joe (05:45–06:58)
  • Lou Dort’s defense not effective against LeBron due to height mismatch; LeBron got what he wanted early but faded.

• On Lakers’ Challenges:

  • Key Lakers (Reaves, Smart) struggled offensively and with turnovers.
  • Even holding SGA to 18pts, OKC still won by 18.
  • “I think the Lakers got a good strategy defensively, Uncle Ocho… They just gotta find a way… to string some stops together.”
    – ISO Joe Johnson (28:04)
  • Lakers’ one-dimensional offense, lack of defensive stoppers, and inability to get bench contributions spotlighted as fatal flaws.

• Injuries:

  • Jared Vanderbilt dislocates finger; panel discusses taping up and playing through pain (25:19–26:59).

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2. Lakers’ Slim Playoff Hope & LeBron’s Legacy

[19:32–24:24]

• Historical context:

  • “The Lakers were a 15.5-point underdog… It’s the biggest underdog spread he’s faced in any game in his 23-year career.”
    – Sharpe (15:47)
  • Discussion about what it would take for LeBron to pull off a series win at this stage (“needs to go full 2018,” i.e., multiple 50-point games)

• Declining sustainability in LeBron’s game:

  • “The mind willing, but the body just [can’t sustain it].”
    – Sharpe (22:04)

• OKC’s historical place:

  • If Thunder repeat, panel argues they need to be discussed among all-time great teams (e.g., 80s Lakers/Celtics, “Bad Boy” Pistons)
    – “At some point in time we’re going to have to start looking at them in a historical term.” (20:00)

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3. Detroit Pistons Take Control vs. Cleveland

[36:58–47:54]

• Pistons snap postseason drought vs Cavs (win 111–101):

  • Cade Cunningham: 23 pts
  • Tobias Harris: continued hot streak, 20 pts
  • Duncan Robinson: 19 pts

• Cavs’ issues:

  • Harden’s playoff turnover woes (43 in 8 games, 7 in Game 1), Allen/Mobley inconsistency, Allen only 2 pts, 3 reb.
  • “You got two seven footers. … They should own the glass… They got 12 rebounds between the two of them.”
    – Sharpe (39:45–40:04)
  • “James Harden, one of the greatest scorers…has had as many or more turnovers than made field goals in 25 out of 181 playoff games.”
    – Sharpe (41:30)

• Harden’s evolving role:

  • Explores the difficulty of star offensive players adapting to a reduced role on a better team (“When you’ve been the man and all of a sudden you not the man… it’s hard to reinvent yourself…”)
    – Sharpe & Joe (45:23–46:53)

• Donovan Mitchell:

  • Ended 30+ point streak at nine games; frustration with officiating and lack of calls.
  • “Maybe that’s what I need to do—flop a little bit.”
    – Mitchell (cited by Sharpe, 59:04)

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4. NBA Ratings Booming: Why is Everyone Watching?

[66:25–69:10]

• “2026 NBA Playoffs delivered the most watched first round in 33 years.” (4M avg viewers, Game 7 hit 11M). – Sharpe (66:27)
• Reasons for spike:
  • Narrative uncertainty: new contenders (OKC, Detroit, Orlando)
  • Return to relevance for major market teams (Knicks, Lakers, Celtics)
  • Young stars and high-competitive drama (close games, multiple Game 7s)
• “It’s exciting. You don’t know. I think it’s the unknown… as much as everybody got OKC winning, hell, you really don’t know.”
  – ISO Joe Johnson (67:13)
• Observations about TV packages, Amazon, Peacock, fragmentation of viewing.

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5. Knicks Fandom & J.R. Smith Moment

[72:57–78:56]

• Panel cracks up about J.R. Smith getting “trampled” by Knicks fans in NYC after a big win (73:01).
• Discussion about intensity and passion of Knicks fanbase:
  • “Them damn Knicks fans, boy, they don’t play about their Knicks, bro.”
    – ISO Joe Johnson (73:40)
  • Memories and speculation of how crazy NYC would get if Knicks made or won Finals
• “Never have to pay for anything again.” (If Knicks win it all, Brunson, team will be royalty)
  – Joe (76:44)
• New York sports hierarchy, star status, citywide euphoria predicted if Knicks win championship.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On OKC’s completeness vs. Lakers’ flaws:
  • “From top to bottom, they’re so complete as a team. And the Lakers got to play so damn perfect just to… just to stay in the damn game.”
    – ISO Joe Johnson (12:01)
• LeBron’s impact even as underdog:
  • “Whenever you got LeBron James on your team, the expectations are still through the roof.”
    – Sharpe (15:39)
• On James Harden’s adaptation:
  • “When you’ve been the man and all of a sudden you not the man… People still see Harden on the back of that Jersey… even though you don’t have this ball in your hand.”
    – Sharpe (45:23)
• Knicks fans' intensity:
  • “If the Knicks get out this round and get back to the Eastern Conference finals, they gonna act a fool, bro.”
    – ISO Joe Johnson (74:42)

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Additional Segment Timestamps

• 02:22 – Panel introduces OKC-Lakers post-game discussion
• 06:02 – ISO Joe on Thunder's defensive pressure
• 08:20 – Lakers’ turnover problems dissected
• 11:00 – Lakers’ perimeter defense/SGA strategy
• 13:17 – Series predictions: “might not go five” games
• 19:32 – LeBron as historic underdog
• 36:58 – Pistons-Cavs breakdown begins
• 41:30 – Harden's playoff turnover stat
• 59:04 – Donovan Mitchell’s complaints about officiating
• 66:25 – NBA ratings discussion
• 72:57 – Knicks/J.R. Smith incident shared

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Overall Tone & Style

The discussion features rapid-fire exchanges, humor, storytelling, and detailed basketball insight—authentic to the personalities of Sharpe, Ochocinco, and Joe. Banter, friendly clowning, and inside jokes abound. The hosts balance technical basketball analysis with relatable pro athlete anecdotes.

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Summary Takeaways

• OKC Thunder establish dominance in Game 1: Even on a subpar night, their defense and depth overwhelmed the Lakers. L.A.'s path to victory looks implausible unless LeBron channels superhuman 2018 energy.
• Detroit surges over Cleveland: The Pistons' youth and energy flustered the Cavs. Harden’s turnovers and the bigs' lack of impact spotlight Cleveland’s inconsistencies.
• NBA’s narrative goldmine: Ratings are up thanks to unpredictable matchups, emergent stars, big-market team success, and close playoff series.
• Knicks passion peaks: Their fans and culture are legendary, and a championship run would be seismic for NYC.
• Classic Nightcap banter: The trio blend player perspective with levity, sharing unfiltered views and locker-room-level clowning.

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Recommended for fans wanting in-depth NBA playoff basketball talk with an authentic locker room perspective and plenty of laughs. Skip this one if you’re only interested in highlights—instead, here you get the story behind the numbers and the unfiltered truth from former pros.

Transcript

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

It's the pressure, man. It's the pressure that those guys bring not only at you offensive UNC and oo, but defensively, bro. They, they, they fuel off them turnovers that they create. Look, we know OKC can score with the best of them, but man, listen, let me tell you something. They trying to lock you down defensively, bro. They trying to lock you down defensively. Hey, and I'm with you if, if AR can't give a better effort than that. Now we know he, you know, basketball is a rhythm and time and game, fellas. And he has been out for an extended period of time, at least a month. So you know, when he first came back, he may have been playing off adrenaline, but you know, it takes a while, bro, for you to gain that rhythm back. But I think that was probably the biggest difference. Like you say, I don't know if it would have helped. And I do think Bron can play like this on the whole series. I think he can be efficient like this. I don't know, I don't know if it was just me, but it seemed, the game seemed real easy for him tonight.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Well, look, Lou Dort, I mean Lou Dorse is a tremendous defender, but at 6:3, 6:4, he's not going to cause LeBron any problems. LeBron is going to be able to get down on the block and be able to get whatever Shot he wants. You know, he got off to that great start. I think he had 10 points in the first quarter. Excuse me, got another six in the second. Then he was relatively quiet in the third quarter and hit a couple of shots in the end, the fourth, but that's not enough. Like I said, I thought, I thought Da was playing really well, but he got in foul trouble so. Because I think he's a better offensive player than Jackson Hayes. Jackson Hayes is a better defender.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, he is.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You'd like to be able to combine those guys and have create one player, but unfortunately you can't do that. But yeah, I think you just, I think this Oklahoma City team, Jay Mitchell, he just comes in and just, I mean right before the half, just think about it. He ain't made, he ain't made a three pointer all night. And then with four seconds left in the half, he gets three. Yeah, and that is, that's. This is who, this is who they are. And like you said, Joe, I don't know even if LeBron continued to play at this efficient level and Rui keeps shooting the ball like he's shooting the ball, I still don't know if that is enough to overcome them because they're bench you basically getting nothing. And when Austin Reeves coming back, what it's done is kick Luke Canard out of his rhythm.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Well, I think for the Lakers, bro, they gotta the turnovers. I mean you get six turnovers between Smart and Reeves and these are the guys who handling the Rock. I didn't think neither one of them played well offensively. Now Marcus Smart, you know, his game is really not predicated on what he's gonna give you offensively. I think what he gives you offensively is great, that's a bonus. But I mean hell, he done a hell of a job on Shay. Uncle Ocho not held him to 18 points.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Think about that. When's the last time he broke Will's record of 120 plus games over at least 20 points? Yeah, and now he held him under 18, so kudos to him for that. But, and you know they had 17 turnovers. Marcus Martin only had two. But, but Austin Reeves, you got three made field goals, you got four turnovers. He just looked. He just looked out of source. He just looked.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I agree, I agree.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What you like, Ocho? What did you think about the game that you watched?

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

I mean, obviously what I did think is being that OKC was off so long. Uncle Joe. I'm thinking before the game even started, if the Lakers are going to get A game. This would be the one. Yeah, this would be the game that you get. Because I think maybe maybe the Thunder come out maybe a little rusty, maybe, maybe they're not going to be in rhythm and the Lakers have a chance. LeBron playing very efficient. And the thing is, Joe, you said it. That pressure, that goddamn defense, not only are they having their way offensively, but hell, they getting points defensively too. You know, making you mess up, you know, getting, getting points in transition because of the defense that they are playing. And goddamn Austin Reeves, even, even, even if he did play well tonight, I don't think it would have been enough. I don't think it would have been enough. And not only that, when goddamn OKC go to their bench, they still getting production from the bench. Production no matter what the, no matter what the star and five do. I mean, the Laker, the Lakers, I hate saying they one dimensional, but they damn sure is one dimensional.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Well, I mean, you playing against the defending champs, fellas. Hey, look, I know, I know Marcus smart hell shaded 18 points, but he was not there forcing that. Hell, he shot 53% from the field. It wasn't like. I ain't gonna say he just shut him down. Now I do think the Lakers are using that defensive strategy that they use against Kevin Durant. Yeah, yeah, trap him a lot, make him get a ball up. Yeah, we know Hardenstein can play make. We know Chick pretty good. We know Lou Dork can make shots, but hell, you gonna have to live with them guys beating you, man, versus, you know, versus Shay going for 35. You feel me? So I, I thought, I thought Shade was actually great. He, he wasn't forcing anything. He just kind of took what the defense gave him.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But if, if I would have told you Shay was going to have 18 points and only gonna get to the free throw line. Shoot three free throws. You like? Man, I really like the Lakers because that's what they did. Think about what the. Think about what OKC normally shoots from the free throw line. They're normally in the 20s. They shot 12 free throws. Yeah.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Hey, you see in that first half, hey, you see in that first half, you know, Shay, I'm not going to call it foul baiting. We see Shay was, was flailing a little bit on some of the shots

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

down there as they go.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

They let him play.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm happy with that too. Because you can't call all that, man. You know, some of them, some of them ain't fouls.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You know, he flailing, trying to. You know, trying to get to the line. But that's. That's what the great scores in this game do, you know? Hey, but for me, man, you know, kind of like, I've been stressing over last season all the way through this season. Check. H. If he plays at this level, Uncle Oo, this is why they'll be hard to beat, bro. I mean, he.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

He.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He can do a little bit of everything. Shot blocking, rebound and scoring, playmaking. And at his size, he may not block everything, but he'll. He. He'll alter some shots, too. I just think from top to bottom, they're so complete as a team. And the Lakers got to play so damn perfect just to.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Just.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Just to stay in the damn game. I'm like, man,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

yep, you're absolutely right. And the thing is, is that when guys get broken down on defense, now all of a sudden the guy lays it up. Okay. Da comes to challenge. The shot goes unfettered.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

To the basket. So now you get an easy put back or you get checked dunking.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And so now, okay, you get broken down on defense, guys rotate. Now you're getting. Guys kick for a wide open. Okay. You come to trap Chet at the top. Well, he's in the middle of the court. You see his eyes getting big like, God. Oh, y' all doing this. Y' all really gonna do this to me. Ah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And he. He. A check was the beneficiary of a lot of those passes from Shea, from him getting doubled, too, you know? I don't know, man. OKC just got too much. It's just gonna. It's just gonna be way too hard for the Lakers, I honestly think, to win a game.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I do. I agree. Yeah. I think. I think that if they. If it ain't go. I don't. I don't think it goes past five. It might not go five. Because think about this. You held shade of 18, right? He only shot three free throws. He had seven turnovers. And you lose by 18.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

With no J Dub.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

See, LeBron James is 12 of 17, three of six from the free throw line. He only shot one free throw. He missed that because he had an A1 four rebounds. I don't like the four rebounds because he got three of those in the quarter.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yep. I was saying that because there was

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

a long time there. He went almost three. Almost three full quarters and didn't have a. I agree.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Which is very.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I agree. Hey, hey. But when you think about it, I know you like how he came out, how he started the game?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, he was super aggressive. Super. I loved it. I'm like, okay, yeah, he had team. I can, I can live with this. I can live with this. But if Austin Reed, you know what, this was the game for us to win. All Austin Reeves had to do is play like he been playing in the regular receiver. That 23 points that he gave us, that might have been enough to get us over the top with LeBron playing the way he played with ruin knocking down threes. Come on. I mean, you gotta be able to guard somebody if Marcus smart, I mean Mitchell. So I mean, what are you gonna do if you can't guard Mitchell? Mitchell. Mitchell.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Cooking. Hey, that, that, that, that rhythm and timing, you can't, we can't take that for granted, man. Cause that's all it is for ar. You know, if this was regular season here, he'll be split out out there. You know what I'm saying? He won't be. Hey, he be getting to it. But I just seen a lot of miscues, just little small indecisions that he was making that was kind of costing them, especially them turnovers. They was crucial. Some of them turn. Yeah, they were crucial.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And he forcing up threes, Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He tried.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean those three not good. I mean you, I mean you try. I mean just because they hit a three on the other end, that don't mean you try to force up a 28 footer to get it back.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And that's, that's kind of how they been playing on. He been, he been playing like that all season. It's just, you know, during the regular season, hell, he was making them. He was in rhythm. He wasn't dealing with nothing. You see he got banged up tonight when they hit him in that. Yeah, they hit him in that, that rib.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

So, I mean. Hey. Hey, Unc. Well, so for Unc, this, this is not considered a fail season. Even though they made it this far with Luke and Austin Reeds being out, you know, the, the back half of the season. Right?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Well, no, I mean. But no, it's not. But you know, at the end of the day, whenever you got LeBron James on your team, the expectations are still through the roof.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean the lakers wore a 15 and a half point underdog in game one. It is the biggest underdog spread he's faced in any game in his 23 year career. Let this sink in. Even in 2018 when he was alone

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Steph Draymond and KD right? He was never this big of an underdog. That just lets you know what he's up for, what this team is up against.

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Yeah, I mean, shoot.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean and, and, and I, I, I think you can, we, we could agree to. Joe, I think is that if they were to repeat, I mean we gotta, now we gotta start looking at, okay, where are we putting this Thunder team

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

against all off some of the, some

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

of the greatest teams because they won what, 64, 65 games last year they had another 62, 62 wins. 62, 63 win season. This year they're going to have the back to back. They got the reigning and they're about to have a back to back MVP regular season mvp. They win it, they're going to have a finals MVP back to back. At some point in time we're going to have to start looking at, okay, we know the 80s Lakers, we know the 80s Celtics, the late 80s early 90s Pistons. We're going to have to start looking at them in a historical term.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I think it's going to depend on how they finish. Meaning, like are they gonna sweep through every round and get to the finals and sweep through the damn finals? If that's the case, Uncle Ocho, now we really got, we really gotta have a real discussion. You know what I mean?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Because yeah, they, they swept through the first round. Obviously. You know, this is one game, first game. But I Think we all pretty think they gonna beat the Lakers. Unless Bron can go for one of them 50 point games, but.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Well, he'll, no, he, no, no, no, no, no. He gonna need about two or three of them. Yeah, 150 point game was only gonna get you one victory. You still need three more. So he's gonna have to, he's gonna have to have a 2018 season, Joe, where he averaged 34. 8, 8 and he had 8, 44 games. He's gonna have to have a series like he had against Toronto, a series like he had against the city.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

But he capable though. Like I, I thought tonight with him having 10 of the first 16 points, I said, oh bro, I'm probably gonna get at least 40 tonight with 40 points. You know that, that, that would have kept you in the game. Now I wouldn't anticipate Austin Reeves playing like this offensively, you know, him and Marcus Smart not making shots for real. But man, that give you a chance, give you a fighting chance.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

The problem is though, Joe, as you get older, you just can't sustain it. You see, man, after like a couple of trips and that pace picks up, you see how he walks up the court, you see how his chest be up and down. You can't.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'll be checking him out.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean the mind willing, but the body just.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I know, man, I know, I know it's tough. I, I just figured with them having a few days of rest coming off that series, I thought this would have been a great game for him. Obviously he was super efficient, but probably go for one of them 40 point games, man, because, because if I'm him, I'm thinking, yeah, I wanna, I wanna get some of these other guys involved and hopefully somebody can have a breakout game and I can match him on our squad. But the rate he was going to start the game, it just looks so easy to me. I'm like, hold on. Damn. I know OKC a pretty damn good defensive team. Argan, Ojo. But he making, he made it look

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

because J Will Jdub is a little taller.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So he might box. But Lou Dort is not tall enough. Lou Dort and, and, and Houston wasn't tall enough. And, and he ain't grow since he got the okc. So he still ain't big enough.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

I mean the way leron made it look at, at the beginning, Joe, you know, and I, I, I, I didn't have them to win the series. I said maybe they would get a game, maybe two, because this Oklahoma has too much to deal with offensively and defensively, I said, maybe it got to be to. It got to be tonight's game. Because they had. Because Thunder had so many days off. It got to be tonight's game.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

And, man. And boys ain't miss a beat.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They did, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, because think about. They led a large part of the fourth, the first quarter.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they did.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And then what you call them. And then what you call them, hit them with a run. And now you go in, you down at the end of the first. And so this is what they do to you. The end of each quarter, they go on a little spurt. So now all of a sudden, a game that was close, that was tied, you're down four, okay?

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

You.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You back and forth. You back and forth. They go on another spurt to end the first, second quarter. Now you look up, you find yourself down like, damn, we down eight. You play good all the way through the third quarter, they go on another spurt, you look back up and start the fourth. We down 14 damn points and we playing pretty good.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That's the crazy part. And. And when you look at it, the Lakers are not built to come from behind, bro. They not. Once they get down, it's like, damn, they get down by 10 or 12 points, I'll be thinking the game over with Bank. They just don't have enough firepower or. I. I wouldn't necessarily say firepower. They just can't get stops. They can't get multiple stops against this OKC team.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's the problem, Joe, is that they don't have the defenders that you can turn up the intensity and get. I mean, LeBron played the passing lane and got to steal, you know, got a steal, but they didn't get a whole lot of runouts. And you got guys that can handle the ball. So it's not like a Houston where guys, you see when they was down game three and they got six points in the final 30 seconds because they don't have guys that can handle the ball. But in a situation, in a situation like what they were dealing with tonight, shake and handle the ball. They got ball handles in that situation. So it's just going to be tough. I mean, they got to. Basically, they got to go into the third, the fourth quarter, up a couple of points, and then get it to clutch situation, last the last two minutes. They need to. They still need to be up five

[ISO Joe Johnson]

points in the last two minutes.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, hey, because, look, they just don't. They just don't have enough. Jared Vanderbilt suffered a full dislocation of his right pink finger. Per Sean's. Lakers lose game one. But Vandal tonight, no timetable is set for a possibility of his return. Man, the next game, huh?

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Man, if he don't wrap that thing up right here next to that finger, man, and go play some ball.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And plus, it's his right hand. It's not his left hand, and maybe that would help. Yeah, he.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

He good.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He's shooting, Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah. He played for six minutes. It was like he out there raising some hell now.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Exactly. So how much. How much are we going. How much are they gonna miss him? Right?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Right?

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Yeah, man, you don't take.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, tape.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Hey, Joe, man, take them two together right there, man. You'll be. You're gonna be just fine.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

See, the thing is, though, in basketball, when you. Even when you tape them, they gonna get hit because that's just part of the game, you know, trying to rebound, using your hands for defense. It's just so much. So I. I know it's gonna linger, but here. He ain't no offensive guy, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He a body that they need. That energy and effort.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That's what they need.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Yes.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

So I'm sure he'll be playing next game. I. I can't see him sitting there.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Well. Well, you know, that's what we do, Ocho. We take them fingers together and. People don't realize how hard it is to catch a ball when you can't spread your fingers. Yeah. Because you used to being able to do this, and all of a sudden.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, with that. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And just that little bit throws it off. But I played with thumb guard because I had. You know, I would dislocate or dislocated my thumb one time. So I played with a thumb guard.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And you.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, you never know how. How important that thumb is, boy, until you hurt them, boy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Please.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

You can't use it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, you ain't gotta tell me nothing. Try brushing. You try doing anything without the thumb. Your thumb. Hey. Hey, you trying to brush your teeth like this here. Hey, you tried to. You tried to shower with.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, that thumb in that damn big toe, boy. Hey.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hell, yeah. But the Lakers lose. Even though the OKC did not play their best game, they still found a way to win by 18 points. Lets you know just how talented, how good this team is. When you can play subs by your standard subpar basketball and still win by damn near 20.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You're damn good. Yeah. Yeah, I agree.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Them boys SGA had 18 points, which is the first time he scored under 20 this season. The last time SGA scored under 20 points was in game three against the Denver in the 2025 play. Hey, so damn near a whole year. He.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He had seven damn turnovers too. That let. Hey, I'm telling you that, that defense that they play, bro, it confuses you, man. Yeah. Hey, we. You, you look at, statistically, you look at Kevin Durant's turnovers. Hell, how many he had one. He had eight, eight, nine. Damn, Turner. Yeah, nine, I think, because it scores, bro. The last thing you really want to do is get up off that damn ball. You know, you got. Hey, guys who like to score the ball, bro, they gonna hold on to it as long as possible to see are you gonna continue to bring this trap. And I thought it confused Shay a few times, obviously, because he has seven turnovers. I think the Lakers got a good strategy defensively, Uncle Ocho. They just gotta find a way, bro, to, to, to string some stops together so they can stay close. They can't. Once they get down by 10 or 14, it's a wrap. It's a wrap.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

And you got the offense to be able to crawl back into the.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You don't.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And the pro. The, the problem that they have is that they turn the ball over, Joe, and they take some ill advised shots. At times I'm looking like, Austin, why would you take that shot? Yeah, I'm like. And then I'm looking at like Rui. I'm like. And I thought Rui played okay.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, he did.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I really did. I thought he made some big time plays, but I'm like, that's not the shot that we need right now.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Yeah, you know what? You know what?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Cause all you're gonna do, you. They already got the momentum and I guess, I guess sometimes Joe, you know, you want to quail some of that momentum so you want to come right back at them.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

You hit him right away.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

If you miss now, they right back at you. And what was 10, nines, 12. And then this thing, you know that, that crowd started going crazy and they never, never was really able to overcome that. Go ahead, Ocho, would you want to say.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

I was going to say it all comes down to shot selection. You know, when you, when you're in, you're in situations like that, you know, being confident, being able to get to your spot instead of just taking elevis shot because they hit one, now you try to go down and get one. But if, if. Let's. Let's not get it from three, man. Put the ball on the floor. Take somebody to the hole to try to get yourself back into the floor of the game or get yourself back in rhythm instead of just shooting them goddamn shots up like that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, shots come far. Few in between against this OKC team. So when guys see a crease or an opportunity, Uncle Ocho, hell, they trying to get one off. Hey, hey, them boys sitting down, man, they God. And they got great, they got great guys who play individual defense, but they are great. Yeah, defensively, they are great team defensively. So it's going to be tough. It's. I think they going, they going to always make it, make it tough on Reeves and Smart. They got to find ways to continue to be effective. Obviously we know Smart will, but they got to find a way to get Austin Reeves into a rhythm, bro, asap.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And, and, and, and, and, and D A is going to have to stay in the game. He's gonna have to just keep his hands up and not foul because it really hurt because I thought he was playing really good. He was hitting the turnaround jumper. He's doing great on the glass. He was challenging shots. But when he goes out now you, now that's a big body that you don't have in the game. And, and at least you can give him the ball. He'll face up, he can put the, you know, he can shoot the little six to eight footer. That's not, that's not Jackson Hayes game. Jackson Hayes is a lob put effort and if he's not getting those. Had some turnovers, some ill advised turnovers tonight. But look, it's one game. I don't, I'm not sure they could, I'm not so sure what it's going to be. It might be much worse. What is that? Yeah, Thursday.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

But we go, hey, which game you going to? You're not, you're not going, you're not going to submit yourself that type of game.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Four next Monday.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Okay, so that's like the game. They might get swept in.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That might be.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And the thing. Hey, Ocho, man.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Yes, sir.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Every time I've seen the Lakers play okc. Yeah, they lost.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Hey, how about you just don't go.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I thought about it.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Yeah. Just, he just went.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

When Lebron. When Lebron. When LeBron. When Lebron broke the score record. Yeah, they played OKC. They lost.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I was at that game. Oh. I mean he had like 30. He, I think he had like 36, 38. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

He sent me that ball.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, but you just went to a

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

game and they won yeah, but not when they play okc. Hey, it's two teams. When I watch them. Hey, Memphis, they beat hell out Memphis. Be a playoff. Be it regular season, Right? Who else they beat? The Hawks. I saw them beat the brakes off the Hawks, too.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, okay. Lakers.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I. I haven't seen him have one of those. Like, I was. I was almost gonna go to the game they played. It was a Saturday game and they played the Warriors. That was the game. Joe, he dropped 56 on the Warriors. I was like, damn it, let's do it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He going, hey, hey, he gonna do it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That was. I mean, he was having an unbelievable. Because he was having an unbelievable season that year. That's the year he averaged 30 and him and Joel Embiid was going down for the. Going back and forth for the scoring title. The Pistons beat the Cavs 111 to 101. Cade Cunningham had 23. Tobias Harris kept up his hot streak. I got it. He had 20. Duncan Robinson chipped in with 19.

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

and an NBA record tying 12 game postseason losing streak against a single opponent. A drought that dated back to the 2007 Eastern Conference finals. Well, we know LeBron was a part of that. Game two is Thursday night in Detroit. Donovan Mitchell scored 23 points ending his NBA record streak of scoring 30 plus points and nine straight six openers. Jared Allen was limited to two points and three rebounds coming off a 22 and 19 performance in an elimination game against Toronto. I thought that was really the difference of the in the ball game. Yeah, is that he really didn't give him anything. I Don't, Joe, I need you to help me out. What is it with Harden and these turnovers, man?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, What?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He got 43 and eight games. He got 43 turnovers in eight games, Joe.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

What, he had seven a night, huh?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, listen, do y' all see the pressure that them boys putting on him? Everybody know. Now, you know what it is, Uncle Ocho. They pick his ass up full court. They wear him down, bro. That's what they do. And, you know, Detroit, look, as great as Cade is offensively, he's one of them guys who pick up full court. You look at Aman Thompson, he. Asua Thompson, he's. He. He's a guy who pick up full court. That youth. That youth comes into play. Hell, how old is James?

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

30.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Got to be like 34. 35.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

34, 35, 35, 36. But, yeah, them young. Hey, man, them young boys picking up full court, making them work. They're making it work. They making them work. So, you know, hey, hey, hey.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They got making Donald Mitchell work, too.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. Cause, hey, look, at one point, neither one of them was really playing well. I. I think they was able to get back in the game here. They tied the game in the fourth quarter, and then Detroit took off on another run. But I just. I don't know what it is about Cleveland, man. I mean, Jared. I mean, Allen coming off that huge game, and then how he come out here and give you this two and three. Come on, bro.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

That's it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Did he get hurt? Because he only played 18 minutes, but damn.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And looking at his numbers, that was 18 more than he should have played, right?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I think what happened. Strus came off the bench, and he caught on. He caught high. He called. Maybe they was playing Mobley at the 5 a lot, but I think, you know, STR came in, gave him great energy. Schroeder did, too. Cleveland, they got enough to win. They just can't get consistency from. From certain guys.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

The big.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they can't get. Do you need your bigs?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Well, if you really think about it, you need your bigs. Them.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Them bigs, Mobley and Allen, you need them to consistently be dominant. Uncle Ojo, you need them too, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They should be with those two guys together. Should give you somewhere. Somewhere between 30 points and 20 to 28 rebounds a game. Between. Yeah, you got two seven footers. Yeah, they should own the glass. They got 12 rebounds between the two of them.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I agree.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They got 16 points between the two of them. That's not enough. And considering they only playing with one Big. They played him with Durin, so that means Tobias or somebody else got to take Mobley. Yeah, Mobley with Tobias Harris on you, you simp.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, it's. Look, but hold on.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Only. Only one of them is an offensive presence, though. Jared Allen, more of a defensive presence. So having. Having me between the two of them, having them 30. I mean, Allen might give you a game like that. What, every so often.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, he.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He should be a Joe, even. I'm not counting on him because I'm not running play for him.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But I don't think it's asking an awful lot for him to give us 12 points a night off the glass to give us 18.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I don't think. No, it's not. It's not. And when you look at it right, Detroit didn't even really play great, you know, and for them to win like this, like I said, I think with like four or five minutes left, uncle and Ocho, it was a tight game. I seen Harden at the line, shoot two free throws, but I don't know, man. I, I, you know, Cleveland got to find some consistency somewhere just to get a game. It's going to be tough to beat these boys because they've been tried and tested in that first round. You know, sometimes they wake you up

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

tonight with James. James Harden's 181st playoff game of his career. It was the 45th playoff game that he's had as many or more turnovers than field goals, which is exactly 25 of his career postseason games. He's turned the ball over as many or more times than he's had millions.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Yeah, man. Hey, they keep track of all that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Absolutely.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Damn.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And he gotta tone it down. I'm saying he has to tone that down because the turnover that I seen that he had, bro, they, they.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They lead to easy buckets.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They led to points. And you're right. He has to find a way to, to cut that down to about two, Two, maybe three, you know, in order for them to. To. To. To even stay in the game in this series, bro, them turnovers, man, these young teams gonna fuel off that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, but you know what? I know, but here, the thing that he's running into, Joe, and correct me if I'm wrong, see, when he's in Houston, he had to do a lot more, bro. You were a better team. Now, even when you with the Clippers, you would have better team. You don't. You shouldn't have to think that I have to do more because you have more help. He's still thinking he's in Houston where he doesn't have the help that he has now on Cleveland that he has with the Clippers, that he had with Sixers or he had with let that sink 45 of his 181 games in the postseason. He's had as many turnovers or more than made buckets.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That is James Harden, one of the greatest scorers this game has ever seen. Joe, we were having conversations just five to six years ago. Who's a better one on one scorer, James Harden, Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant? We were having serious discussions. Not just us, everybody was.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Because we watched James Harden go 25, 30 straight games or giving you 30. He was the first guy with a 60 point triple double. We watched him just, just go crazy. And we like, have we ever seen. I'm talking about ISO. Have we ever seen anybody that's a better ISO score than James Harden?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Maybe not, bro. Not.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But. But we get him in the playoffs. We saw him against the, the Warriors. I think he got the record. I think he got 14 turnovers in a game. Joe, how many double. How many playoff games did he have? Double digit turnover. I think he got like five or six, which is crazy. And I understand he's going to have a high usage rate. He's led the league in usage. He has the ball in his hands. But when you turn the ball over

[ISO Joe Johnson]

that much, yeah, it's going to be hard to win. And you know what's crazy is James is a great off ball. He can play off. Donovan Mitchell, he can play off the ball. It ain't like he can't catch and shoot. Uncle Ocho, he can catch and shoot with some of the best of them. But the problem is that what you have is once a guy like that gives the ball up, I'm face guarding him, bro. Y' all playing four on four. So he understands that's, that's gonna keep him. He ain't gonna be engaged in the game if he just continue to play off of Donovan and Mobley and Allen. So he, you know, some certain situations, certain situations he kind of force it, you know what I mean? So I think he has to find a happy medium in that. And they gotta find ways to man, take some of that pressure off of him, get him some easy baskets. Because twice in his career he'd be, he'd be forcing, he'd be forcing some stuff out there time. From time to time.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But here's the thing though, Joe, and it's really hard and I think you got to give LeBron some credit, when you used to having the ball. James Harden has had the ball in his hand for a decade, and now you ask him to give it up and play off of it. It's harder than you think. It's like being a number one receiver, and all of a sudden, don't you. They say, we'll go to number two, right? Or go to number three. Yeah, what you mean? Hold on. What you mean? I ain't the first read. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm used to hearing. Hold up. I used to hear xd. I'm used to hear you tag something. Yeah, I'm here to use. I'm here. You say Z out. Whoa, whoa, hold up now. You said X, dig, Y, shallow, Z out. That means I'm la. I'm third, right? So that means if Ocho is available, so that means that if he's available, I ain't gonna get. I ain't getting the ball. But if he's not available and here come the Y, I still ain't getting the. Whoa, whoa, hold on. Time out, man. It gets. People don't understand. And people are, oh, it'll be eat. No, it's not right. When you've been the man and all of a sudden you not the man. Hey, because guess what, Ocho, all they still see is Harden on the back of that Jersey. They see 13 or whatever number he is, and they expect you to do exactly what you doing, even though you don't have this ball in your head to be able to do it right. How you expect me to get you 1500 yards and I'm catching 50 passes down for my night? The hell.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, they gotta take. They. They see, taking the ball out of his hand is gonna take his usage rate down, which is going to take his scoring down. And now and then, everybody gonna be like, oh, damn. Well, this ain't the same James he used to be. Well, of course he's not. He's playing on a much better team now. He's probably just giving you 19, 20 points a game versus giving you 27, 28. But damn, your usage rate, James. The same, bro. We don't need that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But guess what, Joe? You give me 45, 50 with seven turnovers, I'm overlooking that. Huh? What turnovers? I ain't see no turnovers. Now, Joe, you give me 19 points and you got seven turnovers. I'm looking at your stuff with a microscope. Yeah, so for so long, he put up those goddy numbers, man, you ain't even thinking about no turnovers. It's kind of like Luca. Luca have a high turnover ratio, but he's so proficient at scoring the basketball, man. Damn. I don't damn them turnovers.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And you don't really think about them until they late in the ball game or they cost you a game, and then you like, well, damn. Luca had this many turnovers, but you weren't saying anything when he had dropped 45 at that point. And so I think that it's hard for Jay. It's hard to reinvent yourself when you. When you been this way one time. Basically, since he left okc, he's been the guy.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And he's been the guy.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He's used his. All his offense has been his defense. Uncle Ocho, because he could outscore anybody he's played against. But.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

But now, you know, with that toning down a little bit, hell, man. Hey, you gotta sacrifice a little bit. You know, you. You say you want to win, your numbers may not look as gaudy as you would want them to. You know what I'm saying? So.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, but that's. That's the sacrifice that comes along with it. You got to be willing to. You have to be willing to give up something.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And you know, KD going to okc. Excuse me. Going to the Warriors. Even Steph. Steph sacrificed his game. KD sacrificed some of his game. Clayton, all of a sudden, he went from the second option to the third option. Yeah, but in order to win, if I'm trying to win a championship, if my goal. Because everybody says they want to win a championship, right? But a lot of times, Joe, they want to win a championship their way. I want to win this championship, but I still need to get my 32. I ain't trying to get 24 in. Cause y' all ain't gonna say.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

And you know what. And you know what, Uncle Joe, that add even more pressure. Not only is it the playoffs, right?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Then we taking the ball out your hand, then you got the. Now you worried about turning the ball over. And then on top of that, you got to be efficient because you ain't got the ball. Being able to shoot like you want to. Like you. Like you did before.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That is correct.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, look, but he's aggressive. I mean, think about it. He went to the free. He went to the free throw line nine times. Donovan Mitchell only went to the free throw line twice. Shot two free throws.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh. Oh. You know, can't nobody seek out contact better than James Harden. You know, you. You watch the game. I'm Talking about he uses your aggression to his advantage every time. I'm talking about every time you make a mistake on defense, he gonna make your ass to the line. You, you come out there with one of them wild ass closeouts trying to stop me. Yeah, I'm going right by you. We touch shoulder to shoulder.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm coming.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm coming up through like this.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes. So hey, don't and don't, hey. Don't be reaching out when he out there like this here. Cause all he gonna do is he,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

he, he has mastered craftiness. He's super crafty. Hell, he a lefty. He already got an advantage. We know how lefties are any damn way we feel like they got the

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

advantage, all of them. I ain't never seen one that wasn't crafty and scored.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

So. So I think James got to figure it out. Hey, I got a question. Do you think he can. Do you. Do you think he still got it in him to give you a game

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

where you go for 40? Yeah, he can. Yeah, I believe he could. I still believe he have it in. Yeah, I think he can give you a game like that. He could. He could, he could. He could rewind the hands of time. We saw it in Philly when he was there in Philly gave you that 50 point game. I think of what Game 6. Game 5. Game 6. We've seen him have a monster. Have monster games. What's his highest output game in with the Clippers,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I wonder. It's gonna be hard to do that against this Detroit team, though.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. Because they got, I mean, because you got Cade or you got Thompson on him. Yeah. And both of those guys are elite defenders.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, man. And they ain't giving up nothing easy neither. And no, I'm talking about it's so physical out there just to run a pick and roll so. Let alone trying to score 20 points. I, I don't know if he can give you 40 in this series. It'll be tough. He gonna have to be hot as fish grease, boy. I'm talking about

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

you say give you 40. I thought you said could he give you 40. I thought you talking about like 80 point time, but you talking about this.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, he go, but that's what I'm talking about. He gonna need one in this area.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Oh, hey, look, he can see can some of the. He can summons it up once. Especially if him shots start falling early.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He definitely could.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Somebody summons it up once.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But the thing is, it's the, you know, I look at Paulo and how Paulo gave you 45. But Paulo was doing it in a. Hey, he was getting to the midi was going, his A three ball was going. I mean he got like three and ones back to back to back and then they play up off him and now they drop off him and now he pull up with the three. He just had one of those, he's just having one of those out of bodies.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I don't, hey, and I think he

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

can give you 30, I think he can give you a game where you get 30 and 10.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I, I, I think that's possible. But you know what I see is James Harden foot speed. It ain't fast as these guys for, for the Pistons, man. You know, like he crafty enough to get by you and get a foul, but if you telling me he can go 12 for 16 or something like that, that's gonna be tough, man. That's gonna be tough.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I don't know.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

It's gonna be tough.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

His most, his highest scoring game at The Clippers is 32. 30. You got 33 and a 32. And one of those was over with the Clippers.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That was it. That's the highest he ever scored with the Clippers.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh yeah, but he did have a 50 point playoff game against in Philly, right?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, he did.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay. Yeah, he had four like 245. 244. And what that was against Boston. Remember? He rewind the hands of time back against Boston, had everybody oh James, James, James. And then he came out there that game seven and gave you like eight points.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, you talking about Braun do a lot of walking. I'll be checking James out too now.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Oh yeah, yeah, he'd be out there chilling, you know.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

See, here's the thing. When you know the play ain't for you, you just kind of just, you know, you just walking around. You just out there here. I noticed that a lot. I noticed that a lot. Cause when the play for you here you in another gear when it ain't for you. Ocho, you out there, you, you give me that false ass.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Ocho, how we do when the rock. When the rock they call our number. We sprint out the huddle like the Ocho. Hey, hey, man, I'm damn. They get the delay a game. The play ain't for me. I'm like third of the progression. I'm damn, they're getting the and get to the line. Hey, come on.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Hey you, you getting the ball. You give everything away and you are you all hype and happy? Hey, uncle, you getting to the line, you know Restrapping your gloves.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, the hell the man guarding you, he know the damn play for you. Damn sharpie.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Or he knows. He know it's coming.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I think the thing plus Joe, no, Joe, I think the thing with Bron. Bron be so hyped early, especially if he get a basket and the next thing you know, he get a steal or they in transition, he laid up. But you expect. I give pride. Look at game three. You see how he started out? Up and down, up and down. Then all of a sudden. You gotta. Hey, you gotta pay. Hey, but you. It's hard. It's hard because people don't realize, like when you run it. When you run it around, you don't breathe. Yeah, you like. People like. Thank you.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Nah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Nah,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

don't breathe going on. But he's got to do a better job, though, Joe. He's just got to do a better job taking care of the basketball and their bigs. Got to do a better job than what they get. Hey, you, come on, man. I can't get no damn 16 points and 12 rebounds from my two bigs. I got two seven footers. They got one.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I know, man. They. Hey, Cleveland got to do better. I mean, this is. I mean, this carbon copy what we've been talking about them, you know, being consistent, being them big. I mean, I think Mobley got the talent, Uncle Ocho to where hell, he could get you 22 to 25 a night. I think that should be a given, bro, considering the talent that this kid got. He's just not aggressive a lot of the times, you know what I mean? It's kind of like he defers a lot to Donovan and James Harden and you don't need to, bro. He got to be aggressive. He has to be one of the guys. He got to feel like he is the guy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes. And it's just hard, Joe, when you're a young player and you got veteran players. James has been an all star. He's an all NBA. He's an mvp. Donovan been an all Star, an all NBA selection. It's just hard for a young player to say, you know what? Hey, it's my time now. Hey,

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

they got to insert themselves, especially when the two veteran players not shooting well. They not efficient shoot.

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You take. You take the lead.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Well, maybe you're not allowed to do that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No, you can. It just depends on your demeanor. He just doesn't. He just doesn't have that type of game. And it's just not his mindset, you know, it's like he A great piece to a team and he occasionally, you know, had these monster games. But when you look at him and you watch him play, you like. I mean, hell, look at tonight, bro. He was the highest plus, minus. He was a minus. Damn. 18 tonight. Dang. You can't have that from your beat, you know, not, not one of the guys who you relying on, not, you know, for scoring and, and defense. Like he's a guy who. You can go to hell. Oh, he scored the he in the last series. They went to him at the end of the game. You know what I mean? It ain't like.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes. In game six, the overtime together.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they went to him and you know, he made a strong move score with the left hand. I just feel like he has to assert himself a little more.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I agree, I agree, Joe. But I think the thing is, is that this joker here, man, I'm like, Bro, YouTube.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I, I don't know, I don't, I

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

don't know what it is about Donovan Mitchell's game is that. And like I said, it's one game. Let's see how it plays out. But yeah, we've kind of seen this movie, man. I don't know what it is about. I don't know what it is about him, but it's. Look, Joe, when you really think about. Ain't been a whole lot of small. I don't know how tall. Donna. Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

563.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, they, they've only been. They've only. If you really look at it, they've been really two guys that have been six, four under that lead their team to championships. That's D. Wade, that's Steph Curry.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

All the other been big ass guards. Magic Johnson, Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Guard. Let. And Isaiah Thomas. I take that back. Three, Isaiah. So think about that. In the history of the game, where you getting a guard that's leading your team to a championship? Hey, it's only been done by three in the 80 year history.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Well, Donovan's comparison.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Donovan, Donovan, six two. Yeah, six two, that's it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He played big though, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Oh, he got, he got, he got

[ISO Joe Johnson]

bunnies and he got long ass arms. Yeah. I don't know if y' all really pay attention, but to basketball players, when you short like that and like Donovan, okay, if he's six two, six three, got about a 68 wingspan. You feel what I'm saying? Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes. So cuz Joe, you watch him? Hey, I watch this. I like, bro, I don't know when you started doing this, but he'll get the ball.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And come over the top and you know.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You know who they compared? They compared him to D Wad. That was D Wad move. He st. That's D, man. They. That was his. That was his comparison coming into the NBA. Dwayne way he stole.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right about that. I forgot about that. It sure is. He said a friend of mine got fired for talking about flop. I feel like that's what I got to do at this point. I'm just not getting the calls. I don't know why I don't. And I don't flop. Maybe that's why Donovan said that they found they. You remember jb Jalen Brown complained about Joel Embiid flopping? They find him $50,000. So he. I guess he's talking. He's making reference to JB talking about flopping and got fired. But he says, hey, maybe that's what I need to do. Excuse me. To get some of these calls is flop a little bit.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

They find him for that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, you can't criticize the officiating. They find.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I don't necessarily think he. It's not really flopping. It's more of like, a little subtle flail, you know, I want. Like, flopping is just that. That out of control, like, just acting like somebody. Them punch you in your. In the back of your head, right? That's flopping like. Like, you know what I mean?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

But the great scorers, bro, they do. They got a little flailing in their game now. I mean, hell, he better take a page out of James Harden book because he do it with the best of them.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And. But you. But you, as you get older, though, Joe, they don't give you them.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

But you know what? And if that ain't your game, bro, it's hard to play like that, Uncle. Ooh. You know, I was a guy who. Who loves going to basketball, but I ain't. Hell, I probably averaged about three to four, maybe five free throws. You know, these guys not averaging. Shell 12 free throws a night, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Shay shot one time, shot 24, 25 free throws. Hell, bam. Shot 40.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

It's like they contact Seekers, bro. Like, it. I wasn't. I wasn't. One of them guys. I wasn't one of them guys who. Who used to seek contact like that. I mean, y' all make contact, but I'm trying to initiate it. I ain't necessarily trying to, you know, receiving and then flail. I'm, you know, I'm using it for momentum. So it just depends on, you know, Some guys understand it and some, you know, are just natural born scores.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, not me. Ocho and I were a lot alike. I wasn't seeking no contact because I ain't want to get close to you so you can grab me because I already know what you're gonna do. You're gonna grab the holy. You're holding beat.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Don't, don't.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So I already know what you're gonna do. I ain't playing bumper. That's if you look at like big guys like Gronk, what I call bumper car, he bump into you and. And buck good off you. Jason will play like that. Godzales play like that. Nah, bro, I'm 225, bro. I can't let you get your hands on me. You the whole hell out of me. And then what I'm gonna do, I'm gonna be looking at coach like, hey, he holding. Yeah, you. You using your speed. I'm using speed. I'm getting skinny. I'm half a man. Hey, you see this, right? Yay. You never gonna get this right here. You'll get this. You gonna get this. Well, you getting that? That's.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

What's it. That's it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, Joe, I wax on, wax off. Wow.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Nah, hell no. They hold too much.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But like you said, see, and that would, that would throw me off because the first thing they do. Cause now I did what I would do, especially a defensive lineman, like if I'm trying to cut a defensive lineman off, I would grab him and slingshot. So I would use, I would take. I would grab him by the waist, try to cut him off, pull myself forward. Yeah, right here, ref you something, bro. Stop complaining, man. Your big 300 pound ass calling real talk about. I held you. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. Oh, hey, but yeah, man. Hey, all that. You got to learn the tricks of the trade, bro.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

When you first come into the league, you don't really know him. But I. I think like for me playing with veteran guys, Antoine Walker, Paul Pierce, guys who love to score, you start to find little nuances of the game. Like, damn, you know, you start to pick up on it because, you know, they use it against you in practice and all that. So once you pick up on it and you get it, you right, you gotta find them little ways that you can score and get easy buckets. I was one of them. I was one of them guys, bro. Hey, look, I'm trying to learn every day. I'm a sponge. I'm out here. Anything I can pick up or I Can steal from your game and add to mine.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yep, I'm doing it.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Yeah. You know, I got some tools in the toolbox, Joe. You could use it in the big three.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, what you got you gonna see

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

when I use it on your ass.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, it's the subtle stuff. It's amazing how many times guys are. But, yeah, bro, anytime a man watches weight, bro, ain't nobody look. And you a special DB if you looking at that guy's waist. That ain't nobody. I mean, that's what Reevan and Reevis had to be watching that because that joke is so patient. Reavis ain't going nowhere. He ain't biting the first move. Hey, all he gonna do is get him log ass off. That's another one. He walking knuckle scrubbing the ground, Joe. I mean, you looking at Joker like, ain't no way that man arms that long.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. That's a huge advantage, bro, when you got them long arms for DB Yeah,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

man, and he's strong. He's strong. His hands. His hands are really, really strong. So now he can control you. He can do this.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Because all you gonna do. Hey, he gonna get on top of you. He gonna. Hey, he gonna ride you, and you're gonna look back, and as he's looking back, he's riding your ass right out of bounds.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, you know, in basketball, they. It's taught the same way, you know, Watch his waist. You know what I'm saying? Hell, he can't go nowhere without that waist. Don't watch that ball. That ball gonna have you on that damn flow all over the place. You need to watch his ways here. He can't get. He can't go nowhere without that waist.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, I had a coach tell me, say, son, give him that little head. What man can resist head?

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Ah, that little indicator.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They bite it every time. No, you don't, bro. I was gonna go there. I was thinking about going inside. But you know what? You beat me to that point.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You gotta bet him.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But, yeah, you gotta learn those trades this trial. Especially if you don't have a veteran play a veteran player. That teach you? I. I mean, I. I mean, I. The guys, they wasn't receiving tight ends that I played with, they were blockers. So I gotta learn everything I gotta. I'm trying stuff in practice. Hell, if it worked, I'll try it again. If it didn't work, gotta scrap that, dude. Cover the hell out of me on that plate.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Yeah,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

you gotta trial and error the NB the 2026 NBA playoffs delivered the most watched first round in 33 years. Game 7 of the 76ers Celtics on May 2 is the most watched first round. Game 7, averaging 11 million viewers on NBC and Peacock. The first round average 4 million viewers per game across ABC, ESPN, Amazon Prime Video, and NBC. Peacock. Joe, what is it about this year's playoffs that got people and everybody, man, they got these games all spread out, man, I ain't paying all that money. Somebody paying something because they watch is the most watched in 33 years.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, it's. It's exciting. You don't. I think it's the unknown for real. I mean, as much as, you know, everybody got OKC winning it. Hell, you really don't know, because San Antonio, scary, you know what I mean? I think with Jason Tatum coming back and giving Boston that edge, kind of catapulted them into, you know, making it to the NBA Finals at the East. And now I think everybody is. Is. Is intrigued to, you know, what may happen. So I. I'm glad the ratings is up, but I don't know how the hell they up due to the games on all these different damn apps. Like, okay, if the ratings up, then Peacock and Amazon, they making a damn killing, ain't it?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Damn, they'd be getting on us, talking about, man, you got too many ads. Hell, y' all don't tell them that worth that. How many ads you see in the super bowl? They run 200 ads in the Super Bowl.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

$8 million of ass. And y' all sit right there and watch them. I got a little. I got like four or five ads in there. You talking about.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And hey, that's Cold Shadow. Yeah, that's Cold Shadow. Download the app today.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, but. But I. I agree. I think you look at it and Detroit. I think Detroit being. And look, they love Detroit Basketball in the back. Yeah, the spurs, they're back. Look, the Lakers are the Lakers. The Knicks are the Knicks.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Right?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You got these fan bases that no matter what, Knicks, Lakers, Celtics.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Philly.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Philly. Yeah, Philly. But when you get these young teams like, oh, my team finally in the playoffs after a long time, think about San Antonio hadn't been in the playoffs in a long, long time. Yes, they're back. You got Detroit. They've been in the playoffs a couple. But people, their fan base believe, man, we got a realistic chance to get to the NBA Finals.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Right?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Orlando. I'm. I'm glad. I'm glad. I'm glad these It's. It's looking like this. It's. I'm glad the NBA, because look, they. They. These. Amazon and. And.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And NBC and Peacock, they spent a lot of money.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Espinning.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Spent a lot of money. What? Seven billion. Seven billion dollars.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

That's why you want your superstars playing, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's why.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

That's why you want your superstars playing. Joe, the product is the product that's on the court. You know the player. They have the playoffs every single year, but the product that's on the court this year, it has people wondering.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I agree. I agree.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

We want to see this game. We want to see Ant, man. We want to see Brunson. We want to see Embiid and Maxi.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, you want. That's why the numbers going up.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Hey, but hell, if they. If they. If they not playing or the product that's on the court is not good, who the hell tuning in?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I agree, man.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Outside of like Avid.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Avid?

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Yeah, basketball scene. Basketball.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I agree. I agree. That's why we got to get the. We got to get the big three ratings up, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

We.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

We gotta. We need more. We need more stars to come play.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They scared. Hey, I mean, who.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Who. See, the thing is. The thing is a lot of cats, you gotta really love it, bro, because a lot of us are kind of up in age. And hell, if you didn't play 12, 15, 18 years in the NBA

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

because

[ISO Joe Johnson]

you ain't trying to keep your body in that type of shape. And you see that with a lot of these guys who retire, bro, they just kind of, you know, let themselves go. See, I ain't. What. I love staying in shape. That's why I can still enjoy playing the game. It's when. It's when you got all these. You bogged down with all these injuries and you stay out of shape is that the game is not fun to you no more. You know what I mean? But hell, we're on a national stage, bro. You know, we just need to. We need a couple stars to come join the league. Boost. Boost the ratings up a little bit. Get us out there, you know?

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Okay. Hey, Joe, listen to me now. You know, I check my availability, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You don't need to worry about nobody but me, partner. That's it. You don't. You don't need to worry about nobody but me.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

A couple years, Joe, Brian might come out there and join y'.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

All.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, he might. I can see his ass doing that. They'll pay him big money to come out there and play. I gotta.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I Gotta.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm gonna have to hit him. Let him know. Hey, man, I'm still be kicking. God damn. Hey, don't forget your boy. Come run with me.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, but. Yeah, I mean, this. This has been very exciting because the game. You think about some of the. The closeness of the games. Games have been very, very interesting. Yeah, you've had some blowouts, but you think about all these game sevens.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, that's a. A More basketball. More basketball. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Cleveland was a game seven. Philly was a game seven. Orlando Detroit was a game seven. Now, we didn't get any game Sevens in the Western Conference, but you got

[ISO Joe Johnson]

some good damn games because they start study.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

We got some because we had some good.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

The west so stacked from top to bottom. Hell, first round, you got Minnesota playing Denver. Hell, everybody want to see that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And then you got LeBron and KD going head to head.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

The ratings would have been a lot better too, with that. I mean, they probably was still high series because of LeBron, but, hell, if you had Katie out there and they made that thing a series and they went by seven, we.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yep.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Or mess around and get let. Stephen, but he would have. Well, Steph, if you'd have been in the playoff, man, you wouldn't have been able to. Went to the Met Gala. So it's.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You did.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You did all right.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Did y' all see the video of J R Smith getting knocked over by Knicks fans?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I seen that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Let's take a look at this video.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Hey, that was funny. J.R. was like, hey, chill, relax, relax.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Damn, Ain't nobody gonna help the man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, let me tell y' all something. Y' all know them. Damn, them damn Knicks fans, boy. They don't play about their Knicks, bro. They. They. They real fanatics over there. Hey, look, Uncle Ocho, I. I lived in Manhattan when I played for the Nets. And, man, me and my son, we. We had these electric scooters we used to ride down through Manhattan. Y' all know it. Stay busy. I had a dude ride past me. He was like, the Nets. This next country, you in Manhattan. Yeah. He yelled this out his window. Them folks don't play boy by their nick. So I don't know what Jay. I was thinking about being out there in gym pop like that,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Especially after

[ISO Joe Johnson]

a game, like, weird.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, can you imagine? You try to go out to your team, win a big game, or you win the super bowl, or you win the World Series, the NBA Championship, and you take your ass out there and celebrate with them fades, man, they standing on top of cars they flipping police cars. They bad.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hell, listen, bro, you bet.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

You better be ready.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm gonna be in my window. Oh, boy, they crazy down there.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, listen, we talk about if the Knicks make the finals. Damn the finals. If the Knicks get out this round and get back to the Eastern Conference finals, they gonna act a fool, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I don't even. Joe, look here. I don't even wanna. I don't even want to imagine what that thing will be about they get to the NBA Finals. Joe. Hey, you gotta realize how long it's

[ISO Joe Johnson]

got that National Guard out there. Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, Joe, man, what you call about be out there with him, Spike Lee and Tracy Morgan. Everything I do.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. They will tear that city up, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They will flip it for a championship. Do you understand what a championship mean to the Knicks? I mean, for the. For the New York.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, man, hold on.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It goes. If the Yankees and the Knicks, then the Giants. Listen, Jets, I'm sorry. Jetson, Mets, I'm. Y' all out there on the Island. Y' all Long island, stuff like that. But the Yankees, the Knicks and the Giants.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Lord, listen, not only would it be huge for New York if the Knicks got to the finals and won it. That should have been. Oh, that should be huge for basketball, period, bro. Hey, but they gonna tear New York up. I'm talking about Brunson. They gonna have the whole next thing. They gonna. They gonna. They gonna. They gonna be on Mount Rushmore up there, like the whole team. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, he. Oh, oh. If Brunson take this team and they win the fight. Oh, he absolutely. He up there with Willis Reed and Clyde and. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yes, he's there. Hey, I'm sorry. He gonna kick Patrick.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Or Champ bad. Look here. Those teams like that, they. They revere champions over. I don't care how win a championship, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They. That boy be. That. Not only Brunson, but they team will be beloved in New York, bro. They gonna be.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Hey, never have to pay for anything ever again, Jo.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Never ever again. Never.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Them folks don't play about them nicks.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You see? You see what it did for Jeter? You see what it did for Straight?

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Yes, sir.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Stray is a D lineman. And get love. Can you imagine if Stray was a quarterback or wide receiver,

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

man?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Man, that ninja been mayor, a governor, or whatever he wanted to be. Look at Jeter. Just imagine if Aaron Judge brings a World Series. Look how they look at Eli. Eli don't even talk.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, the Yankees still.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Eli don't got a picture.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Still got Sting over there. Is he still over there, too?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Giancarlo St. Yeah, yeah, he's still there.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, is he?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, he. He wound tighter than guitar screens. He always pull us up back hamstring, quad something.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Yeah, I, I'm, I, I'm, I'm. I'm just picturing the goddamn Knicks understanding what New York City gonna be upside down, bro. Man, I'm talking about.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I got Ben Stiller, Tracy Morgan.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Yes, sir.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Man, ain't no telling what them jokers do. Jimmy Fallon. Hey, Spike Lee gonna lose his mind. Because Spike Lee ain't seen a championship since. Spike was probably 20, 22 when they last won a championship with Willis Reed. Man, Spike Lee losing damn mind.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

What's up now, y'? All don't be surprised now. I didn't say it at first, nothing. Boy, when they got down, they win that goddamn chip. And you see the goddamn Statue of Liberty being carried through the city.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

All right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

All right. Yeah. You might, though. You might. Ain't no telling, boy.

[Joe (Host/Commentator)]

Hey, ain't no telling. Don't put it past him now.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, my goodness. Spike Lee gonna be out of his mind. Cause, hey, they won a game. If Spike Lee over there celebrating, can you imagine? They win a championship, man, you ain't gonna be a hit. Spanking ass with a red apple.

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