
Loading summary
OnPlus Nicotine Pouches Announcer
Onplus Nicotine Pouches Present comfort chronicles a 10 o' clock tee time. How comfortable you show up in stretchy shorts, a breathable tee and maybe no socks. Let the dogs breathe while other sweat and pleated khakis. You're in your comfort zone. Bombing drives and in your pocket. Onplus Nicotine Pouches the softest pouch on the planet. Buy a can@onnicotine.com Products for tobacco consumers 21 years of age or older Warning. This product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical dealing with
Inner Balance Oestra Advertiser
fatigue, mood changes or skin shifts. Labs keep coming back normal. Meet Oestra from Inner Balance all in one doctor prescribed prescription Strength Bioidentical hormone cream designed for menopause and perimenopause relief. Oestra combines two hormones for relief in one simple treatment. Replacing the five or six products, many women juggle just one drop 10 seconds a day. Take the quick two minute quiz online. To order Oestra today, visit innerbalance.com to feel like yourself again.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
That's innerbalance.com spring into deals with stay green premium two cubic foot mulch five bags for $10 plus stay fresh with up to 35% off. Select major appliances and save an additional $100 on select laundry pairs. Our best lineup is here at Lowe's. Lowe's we help you save valid through 56 mulch offer excludes Alaska and Hawaii.
Garnier/National Park Foundation Announcer
Seeloes.com for more details, visit your nearby Lowes.
Public Investing Announcer
Do you want to find a stress free way to buy your next car? Start at CarMax and shop your way. If you want to browse with confidence, get pre qualified online with no impact on your credit score and shop cars within your budget. From luxury cars to family rides, CarMax has options for almost every price range, including more than 25,000 cars priced under $25,000. So hey, want to get started? Just head to CarMax.com for details and get pre qualified today. Want to drive CarMax from Sauce to dust to nuggets Diablo Dusted Crispy Chicken Nuggets no, they don't come in mild. That would make like zero sense with the name new Diablo Dusted Crispy Chicken Nuggets only at Taco bell at participating U.S. taco Bell locations for a limited time and while supplies last, the regular
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
season is a wrap. The NBA playoffs are finally here and there's no better way to cash in on the high flying hoops action than prize picks, a preferred partner of the NBA. Every bucket, every dime, every win means more when you're playing on prize picks. So don't pass up the next shot with Prize picks and get $50 instantly in lineups when you play your first $5. Do it live in the 2026 NBA Final sweepstakes Alert. Pick live squares during the NBA Playoffs and you could win a trip for two to the NBA Finals. To enter, just make a $5 lineup with at NBA Player Pick during any part of the 2026 NBA playoffs. Live Player Picks are picks made after the game is already in progress. Prize Picks is simple to play. You know the playoff season. I'm all in on LA as always. OKC baby LeBron is going to light you up more, more more. Get on in the action that Prize Picks is now available in all 50 states including California, Texas, Florida and Georgia. Download the Prize Pick app today. Use Code Shannon to get 50 in lineups after you play your first five dollar lineup. Then that's code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play YOUR first $5 lineup. Prize picks A preferred partner of the NBA. For another episode of Nightcap. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite un my partner and co host Liberty City Zone, a former Pro Bowler and an All Pro from the Cincinnati Bengals, that is Chad Ochocinko Johnson and the third member of the Big three, a seven time NBA All Star from the Atlanta Hawks that is ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys. Thank you for your eyes, ears and your word of mouth. Thank you for all the support you've given us over the almost three years and hopefully you'll continue to support Nightcap. We greatly appreciate that. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shade by Laportier head over to laportierconjac.com if it's currently unavailable in a state or city near you. It is a premium VSOP Cognac that drinks like an xo. It is the best tasting, smoothest VSOP Cognac on the market. What you should do is purchase a bottle, try it, compare it against others and you'll see what we know to be true. We have the smoothest, best tasting cognac on the market. Please, please drink responsibly and stay safe. Well the OKC Thunder did what we thought they would do. The first game they opened up a can 1108 to 90 Chad Holgren 24 points, 12 rebounds, 3 blocks Shea was relatively quiet, is one of the first times that he scored under 20 points, 18 points, 6 assists, 2 blocks. Austin Reeves was atrocious. Uh, he was 3 or 16,05 from the 3 point line. He had more, he had more turnovers than he had field goals made. And I thought that was really. And you know what, it might not even made a difference. Joe. Um, I mean, I don't think we could expect LeBron James to be this efficient. I thought Roy played unbelievable game da got in foul trouble so he really wasn't stay able to stay in for extended stretches. But he had a double double, 10 points, 11 rebounds. You like to see that total go a little high. I thought Marcus Smart played okay. He did a pretty good job on sga. But with Austin Reeves giving you these, these numbers and the bench basically non existent, you're not going to be able to be OKC because when their comes in, they're going to be giving you max production. Joe, what is it about the Thunder? Because we talked about it, you might be close. Three, four point, they got a three or four point lead and the next thing you know, you call a time match, you're down 14. And we saw that tonight on several.
ISO Joe Johnson
It's the pressure, man. It's the pressure that those guys bring not only at you offensive UNC and oo, but defensively, bro. They, they, they fuel off them turnovers that they create. Look, we know OKC can score with the best of them, but man, listen, let me tell you something. They trying to lock you down defensively, bro. They trying to lock you down defensively. Hey, and I'm with you if, if AR can't give a better effort than that. Now we know he, you know, basketball is a rhythm and time and game, fellas. And he has been out for an extended period of time, at least a month. So you know, when he first came back, he may have been playing off adrenaline, but you know, it takes a while, bro, for you to gain that rhythm back. But I think that was probably the biggest difference. Like you say, I don't know if it would have helped. And I do think Bron can play like this on the whole series. I think he can be efficient like this. I don't know, I don't know if it was just me, but it seemed, the game seemed real easy for him tonight.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, look, Lou Dort, I mean Lou Dorse is a tremendous defender, but at 6:3, 6:4, he's not going to cause LeBron any problems. LeBron is going to be able to get down on the block and be able to get whatever Shot he wants. You know, he got off to that great start. I think he had 10 points in the first quarter. Excuse me, got another six in the second. Then he was relatively quiet in the third quarter and hit a couple of shots in the end, the fourth, but that's not enough. Like I said, I thought, I thought Da was playing really well, but he got in foul trouble so. Because I think he's a better offensive player than Jackson Hayes. Jackson Hayes is a better defender.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, he is.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You'd like to be able to combine those guys and have create one player, but unfortunately you can't do that. But yeah, I think you just, I think this Oklahoma City team, Jay Mitchell, he just comes in and just, I mean right before the half, just think about it. He ain't made, he ain't made a three pointer all night. And then with four seconds left in the half, he gets three. Yeah, and that is, that's. This is who, this is who they are. And like you said, Joe, I don't know even if LeBron continued to play at this efficient level and Rui keeps shooting the ball like he's shooting the ball, I still don't know if that is enough to overcome them because they're bench you basically getting nothing. And when Austin Reeves coming back, what it's done is kick Luke Canard out of his rhythm.
ISO Joe Johnson
Well, I think for the Lakers, bro, they gotta the turnovers. I mean you get six turnovers between Smart and Reeves and these are the guys who handling the Rock. I didn't think neither one of them played well offensively. Now Marcus Smart, you know, his game is really not predicated on what he's gonna give you offensively. I think what he gives you offensively is great, that's a bonus. But I mean hell, he done a hell of a job on Shay. Uncle Ocho not held him to 18 points.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Think about that. When's the last time he broke Will's record of 120 plus games over at least 20 points? Yeah, and now he held him under 18, so kudos to him for that. But, and you know they had 17 turnovers. Marcus Martin only had two. But, but Austin Reeves, you got three made field goals, you got four turnovers. He just looked. He just looked out of source. He just looked.
ISO Joe Johnson
I agree, I agree.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What you like, Ocho? What did you think about the game that you watched?
Joe (Host/Commentator)
I mean, obviously what I did think is being that OKC was off so long. Uncle Joe. I'm thinking before the game even started, if the Lakers are going to get A game. This would be the one. Yeah, this would be the game that you get. Because I think maybe maybe the Thunder come out maybe a little rusty, maybe, maybe they're not going to be in rhythm and the Lakers have a chance. LeBron playing very efficient. And the thing is, Joe, you said it. That pressure, that goddamn defense, not only are they having their way offensively, but hell, they getting points defensively too. You know, making you mess up, you know, getting, getting points in transition because of the defense that they are playing. And goddamn Austin Reeves, even, even, even if he did play well tonight, I don't think it would have been enough. I don't think it would have been enough. And not only that, when goddamn OKC go to their bench, they still getting production from the bench. Production no matter what the, no matter what the star and five do. I mean, the Laker, the Lakers, I hate saying they one dimensional, but they damn sure is one dimensional.
ISO Joe Johnson
Well, I mean, you playing against the defending champs, fellas. Hey, look, I know, I know Marcus smart hell shaded 18 points, but he was not there forcing that. Hell, he shot 53% from the field. It wasn't like. I ain't gonna say he just shut him down. Now I do think the Lakers are using that defensive strategy that they use against Kevin Durant. Yeah, yeah, trap him a lot, make him get a ball up. Yeah, we know Hardenstein can play make. We know Chick pretty good. We know Lou Dork can make shots, but hell, you gonna have to live with them guys beating you, man, versus, you know, versus Shay going for 35. You feel me? So I, I thought, I thought Shade was actually great. He, he wasn't forcing anything. He just kind of took what the defense gave him.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But if, if I would have told you Shay was going to have 18 points and only gonna get to the free throw line. Shoot three free throws. You like? Man, I really like the Lakers because that's what they did. Think about what the. Think about what OKC normally shoots from the free throw line. They're normally in the 20s. They shot 12 free throws. Yeah.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
Hey, you see in that first half, hey, you see in that first half, you know, Shay, I'm not going to call it foul baiting. We see Shay was, was flailing a little bit on some of the shots
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
down there as they go.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
They let him play.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm happy with that too. Because you can't call all that, man. You know, some of them, some of them ain't fouls.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He.
ISO Joe Johnson
You know, he flailing, trying to. You know, trying to get to the line. But that's. That's what the great scores in this game do, you know? Hey, but for me, man, you know, kind of like, I've been stressing over last season all the way through this season. Check. H. If he plays at this level, Uncle Oo, this is why they'll be hard to beat, bro. I mean, he.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
He.
ISO Joe Johnson
He can do a little bit of everything. Shot blocking, rebound and scoring, playmaking. And at his size, he may not block everything, but he'll. He. He'll alter some shots, too. I just think from top to bottom, they're so complete as a team. And the Lakers got to play so damn perfect just to.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Just.
ISO Joe Johnson
Just to stay in the damn game. I'm like, man,
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
yep, you're absolutely right. And the thing is, is that when guys get broken down on defense, now all of a sudden the guy lays it up. Okay. Da comes to challenge. The shot goes unfettered.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
To the basket. So now you get an easy put back or you get checked dunking.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah. Hey.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And so now, okay, you get broken down on defense, guys rotate. Now you're getting. Guys kick for a wide open. Okay. You come to trap Chet at the top. Well, he's in the middle of the court. You see his eyes getting big like, God. Oh, y' all doing this. Y' all really gonna do this to me. Ah.
ISO Joe Johnson
And he. He. A check was the beneficiary of a lot of those passes from Shea, from him getting doubled, too, you know? I don't know, man. OKC just got too much. It's just gonna. It's just gonna be way too hard for the Lakers, I honestly think, to win a game.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I do. I agree. Yeah. I think. I think that if they. If it ain't go. I don't. I don't think it goes past five. It might not go five. Because think about this. You held shade of 18, right? He only shot three free throws. He had seven turnovers. And you lose by 18.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
With no J Dub.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
See, LeBron James is 12 of 17, three of six from the free throw line. He only shot one free throw. He missed that because he had an A1 four rebounds. I don't like the four rebounds because he got three of those in the quarter.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yep. I was saying that because there was
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
a long time there. He went almost three. Almost three full quarters and didn't have a. I agree.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
Right.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Which is very.
ISO Joe Johnson
I agree. Hey, hey. But when you think about it, I know you like how he came out, how he started the game?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, he was super aggressive. Super. I loved it. I'm like, okay, yeah, he had team. I can, I can live with this. I can live with this. But if Austin Reed, you know what, this was the game for us to win. All Austin Reeves had to do is play like he been playing in the regular receiver. That 23 points that he gave us, that might have been enough to get us over the top with LeBron playing the way he played with ruin knocking down threes. Come on. I mean, you gotta be able to guard somebody if Marcus smart, I mean Mitchell. So I mean, what are you gonna do if you can't guard Mitchell? Mitchell. Mitchell.
ISO Joe Johnson
Cooking. Hey, that, that, that, that rhythm and timing, you can't, we can't take that for granted, man. Cause that's all it is for ar. You know, if this was regular season here, he'll be split out out there. You know what I'm saying? He won't be. Hey, he be getting to it. But I just seen a lot of miscues, just little small indecisions that he was making that was kind of costing them, especially them turnovers. They was crucial. Some of them turn. Yeah, they were crucial.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And he forcing up threes, Joe.
ISO Joe Johnson
He tried.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I mean those three not good. I mean you, I mean you try. I mean just because they hit a three on the other end, that don't mean you try to force up a 28 footer to get it back.
ISO Joe Johnson
And that's, that's kind of how they been playing on. He been, he been playing like that all season. It's just, you know, during the regular season, hell, he was making them. He was in rhythm. He wasn't dealing with nothing. You see he got banged up tonight when they hit him in that. Yeah, they hit him in that, that rib.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
Yeah.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, hey.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
So, I mean. Hey. Hey, Unc. Well, so for Unc, this, this is not considered a fail season. Even though they made it this far with Luke and Austin Reeds being out, you know, the, the back half of the season. Right?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, no, I mean. But no, it's not. But you know, at the end of the day, whenever you got LeBron James on your team, the expectations are still through the roof.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
Yes.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I mean the lakers wore a 15 and a half point underdog in game one. It is the biggest underdog spread he's faced in any game in his 23 year career. Let this sink in. Even in 2018 when he was alone
Inner Balance Oestra Advertiser
and he's facing clay fatigued mood changes skin shifts. Labs say everything's normal. You're not alone. Most estrogen or progesterone topical and oral treatments only work about 20%. Oestra from InterBalance is a prescription strength bioidentical hormone cream for menopause and perimenopause relief. Vaginal HRT like Oestra offers better absorption, effective symptom relief, fewer side effects Stop juggling multiple products Feel balanced again? Visit innerbalance.com Feel like yourself again?
OnPlus Nicotine Pouches Announcer
That's innerbalance.com OnPlus nicotine pouches present comfort chronicles at 10 o' clock tee time how comfortable you show up in stretchy shorts, a breathable tee and maybe no socks. Let the dogs breathe while other sweat and pleated khakis. You're in your comfort zone, bombing drive and in your pocket. OnPlus nicotine pouches the softest pouch on the planet. Buy a can@onnicotine.com Products for tobacco consumers 21 years of age or older Warning this product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical.
Garnier/National Park Foundation Announcer
Garnier is proudly partnering with the National park foundation, the official nonprofit partner of the National Park Service. Garnier's support of the National Park Foundation's Service Corps program is enabling young adults and veterans to help care for and enhance the national parks that we all love. The National park foundation and Garnier are proud to support these individuals as they explore future careers, gain practical field skills, develop confidence as leaders and help address priority projects across our national parks. Together, Garnier and the National park foundation are committed to a shared vision of preserving and protecting our most treasured places for future generations. Want to lend a hand? Explore Garnier's partnership with the National park foundation and learn how you can help support our national parks@garnierusa.com NPF support for
Public Investing Announcer
the show comes from Public, the investing platform for those who take it seriously. On public you can build a multi asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto and now generated assets which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index. With AI. It all starts with your prompt. From renewable energy companies with high free cash flow to semiconductor suppliers growing revenue over 20% year over year. You can literally type any prompt and put the AI to work. It screens thousands of stocks, builds a one of a kind index and lets you back test it against the S&P 500. Then you can invest in a few clicks. Generated assets are like ETFs with infinite possibilities, completely customizable and based on your thesis, not someone else's. Go to public.com podcast and earn an uncapped 1% bonus when you transfer your portfolio. That's public.com podcast paid for by Public Investing Brokerage Services by Open to the Public Investing Inc. Member FINRA and SIPC Advisory Services by Public Advisors llc. SEC Registered Advisor Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice. Complete disclosures available at public.com disclosures this
Jacob Goldstein
is Jacob Goldstein from what's yous Problem? Business software is expensive. And when you buy software from lots of different companies, it's not only expensive, it gets confusing, Slow to use, hard to integrate. Odoo solves that because all Odoo software is connected on a single affordable platform. Save money without missing out on the features you need. Odoo has no hidden costs and no limit on features or data. Odoo has over 60 apps available for any needs your business might have, all at no additional charge. Everything from websites to sales to inventory to accounting. All linked and talking to each other. Check out Odoo at o d o o.com that's o d o o dot com.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Steph Draymond and KD right? He was never this big of an underdog. That just lets you know what he's up for, what this team is up against.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
Yeah, I mean, shoot.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I mean and, and, and I, I, I think you can, we, we could agree to. Joe, I think is that if they were to repeat, I mean we gotta, now we gotta start looking at, okay, where are we putting this Thunder team
Joe (Host/Commentator)
against all off some of the, some
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
of the greatest teams because they won what, 64, 65 games last year they had another 62, 62 wins. 62, 63 win season. This year they're going to have the back to back. They got the reigning and they're about to have a back to back MVP regular season mvp. They win it, they're going to have a finals MVP back to back. At some point in time we're going to have to start looking at, okay, we know the 80s Lakers, we know the 80s Celtics, the late 80s early 90s Pistons. We're going to have to start looking at them in a historical term.
ISO Joe Johnson
I think it's going to depend on how they finish. Meaning, like are they gonna sweep through every round and get to the finals and sweep through the damn finals? If that's the case, Uncle Ocho, now we really got, we really gotta have a real discussion. You know what I mean?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
ISO Joe Johnson
Because yeah, they, they swept through the first round. Obviously. You know, this is one game, first game. But I Think we all pretty think they gonna beat the Lakers. Unless Bron can go for one of them 50 point games, but.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, he'll, no, he, no, no, no, no, no. He gonna need about two or three of them. Yeah, 150 point game was only gonna get you one victory. You still need three more. So he's gonna have to, he's gonna have to have a 2018 season, Joe, where he averaged 34. 8, 8 and he had 8, 44 games. He's gonna have to have a series like he had against Toronto, a series like he had against the city.
ISO Joe Johnson
But he capable though. Like I, I thought tonight with him having 10 of the first 16 points, I said, oh bro, I'm probably gonna get at least 40 tonight with 40 points. You know that, that, that would have kept you in the game. Now I wouldn't anticipate Austin Reeves playing like this offensively, you know, him and Marcus Smart not making shots for real. But man, that give you a chance, give you a fighting chance.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The problem is though, Joe, as you get older, you just can't sustain it. You see, man, after like a couple of trips and that pace picks up, you see how he walks up the court, you see how his chest be up and down. You can't.
ISO Joe Johnson
I'll be checking him out.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I mean the mind willing, but the body just.
ISO Joe Johnson
I know, man, I know, I know it's tough. I, I just figured with them having a few days of rest coming off that series, I thought this would have been a great game for him. Obviously he was super efficient, but probably go for one of them 40 point games, man, because, because if I'm him, I'm thinking, yeah, I wanna, I wanna get some of these other guys involved and hopefully somebody can have a breakout game and I can match him on our squad. But the rate he was going to start the game, it just looks so easy to me. I'm like, hold on. Damn. I know OKC a pretty damn good defensive team. Argan, Ojo. But he making, he made it look
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
because J Will Jdub is a little taller.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So he might box. But Lou Dort is not tall enough. Lou Dort and, and, and Houston wasn't tall enough. And, and he ain't grow since he got the okc. So he still ain't big enough.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
I mean the way leron made it look at, at the beginning, Joe, you know, and I, I, I, I didn't have them to win the series. I said maybe they would get a game, maybe two, because this Oklahoma has too much to deal with offensively and defensively, I said, maybe it got to be to. It got to be tonight's game. Because they had. Because Thunder had so many days off. It got to be tonight's game.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
And, man. And boys ain't miss a beat.
ISO Joe Johnson
They did, man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I mean, because think about. They led a large part of the fourth, the first quarter.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, they did.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And then what you call them. And then what you call them, hit them with a run. And now you go in, you down at the end of the first. And so this is what they do to you. The end of each quarter, they go on a little spurt. So now all of a sudden, a game that was close, that was tied, you're down four, okay?
Joe (Host/Commentator)
You.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You back and forth. You back and forth. They go on another spurt to end the first, second quarter. Now you look up, you find yourself down like, damn, we down eight. You play good all the way through the third quarter, they go on another spurt, you look back up and start the fourth. We down 14 damn points and we playing pretty good.
ISO Joe Johnson
That's the crazy part. And. And when you look at it, the Lakers are not built to come from behind, bro. They not. Once they get down, it's like, damn, they get down by 10 or 12 points, I'll be thinking the game over with Bank. They just don't have enough firepower or. I. I wouldn't necessarily say firepower. They just can't get stops. They can't get multiple stops against this OKC team.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's the problem, Joe, is that they don't have the defenders that you can turn up the intensity and get. I mean, LeBron played the passing lane and got to steal, you know, got a steal, but they didn't get a whole lot of runouts. And you got guys that can handle the ball. So it's not like a Houston where guys, you see when they was down game three and they got six points in the final 30 seconds because they don't have guys that can handle the ball. But in a situation, in a situation like what they were dealing with tonight, shake and handle the ball. They got ball handles in that situation. So it's just going to be tough. I mean, they got to. Basically, they got to go into the third, the fourth quarter, up a couple of points, and then get it to clutch situation, last the last two minutes. They need to. They still need to be up five
ISO Joe Johnson
points in the last two minutes.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, hey, because, look, they just don't. They just don't have enough. Jared Vanderbilt suffered a full dislocation of his right pink finger. Per Sean's. Lakers lose game one. But Vandal tonight, no timetable is set for a possibility of his return. Man, the next game, huh?
Joe (Host/Commentator)
Man, if he don't wrap that thing up right here next to that finger, man, and go play some ball.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And plus, it's his right hand. It's not his left hand, and maybe that would help. Yeah, he.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
He good.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He's shooting, Joe.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah. He played for six minutes. It was like he out there raising some hell now.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Exactly. So how much. How much are we going. How much are they gonna miss him? Right?
ISO Joe Johnson
Right?
Joe (Host/Commentator)
Yeah, man, you don't take.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, tape.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
Hey, Joe, man, take them two together right there, man. You'll be. You're gonna be just fine.
ISO Joe Johnson
See, the thing is, though, in basketball, when you. Even when you tape them, they gonna get hit because that's just part of the game, you know, trying to rebound, using your hands for defense. It's just so much. So I. I know it's gonna linger, but here. He ain't no offensive guy, man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He.
ISO Joe Johnson
He a body that they need. That energy and effort.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He.
ISO Joe Johnson
That's what they need.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Yes.
ISO Joe Johnson
So I'm sure he'll be playing next game. I. I can't see him sitting there.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well. Well, you know, that's what we do, Ocho. We take them fingers together and. People don't realize how hard it is to catch a ball when you can't spread your fingers. Yeah. Because you used to being able to do this, and all of a sudden.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, with that. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And just that little bit throws it off. But I played with thumb guard because I had. You know, I would dislocate or dislocated my thumb one time. So I played with a thumb guard.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And you.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, you never know how. How important that thumb is, boy, until you hurt them, boy.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Please.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
You can't use it.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, you ain't gotta tell me nothing. Try brushing. You try doing anything without the thumb. Your thumb. Hey. Hey, you trying to brush your teeth like this here. Hey, you tried to. You tried to shower with.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, that thumb in that damn big toe, boy. Hey.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hell, yeah. But the Lakers lose. Even though the OKC did not play their best game, they still found a way to win by 18 points. Lets you know just how talented, how good this team is. When you can play subs by your standard subpar basketball and still win by damn near 20.
ISO Joe Johnson
You're damn good. Yeah. Yeah, I agree.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Them boys SGA had 18 points, which is the first time he scored under 20 this season. The last time SGA scored under 20 points was in game three against the Denver in the 2025 play. Hey, so damn near a whole year. He.
ISO Joe Johnson
He had seven damn turnovers too. That let. Hey, I'm telling you that, that defense that they play, bro, it confuses you, man. Yeah. Hey, we. You, you look at, statistically, you look at Kevin Durant's turnovers. Hell, how many he had one. He had eight, eight, nine. Damn, Turner. Yeah, nine, I think, because it scores, bro. The last thing you really want to do is get up off that damn ball. You know, you got. Hey, guys who like to score the ball, bro, they gonna hold on to it as long as possible to see are you gonna continue to bring this trap. And I thought it confused Shay a few times, obviously, because he has seven turnovers. I think the Lakers got a good strategy defensively, Uncle Ocho. They just gotta find a way, bro, to, to, to string some stops together so they can stay close. They can't. Once they get down by 10 or 14, it's a wrap. It's a wrap.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
And you got the offense to be able to crawl back into the.
ISO Joe Johnson
You don't.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And the pro. The, the problem that they have is that they turn the ball over, Joe, and they take some ill advised shots. At times I'm looking like, Austin, why would you take that shot? Yeah, I'm like. And then I'm looking at like Rui. I'm like. And I thought Rui played okay.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, he did.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I really did. I thought he made some big time plays, but I'm like, that's not the shot that we need right now.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
Yeah, you know what? You know what?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Cause all you're gonna do, you. They already got the momentum and I guess, I guess sometimes Joe, you know, you want to quail some of that momentum so you want to come right back at them.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
You hit him right away.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
If you miss now, they right back at you. And what was 10, nines, 12. And then this thing, you know that, that crowd started going crazy and they never, never was really able to overcome that. Go ahead, Ocho, would you want to say.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
I was going to say it all comes down to shot selection. You know, when you, when you're in, you're in situations like that, you know, being confident, being able to get to your spot instead of just taking elevis shot because they hit one, now you try to go down and get one. But if, if. Let's. Let's not get it from three, man. Put the ball on the floor. Take somebody to the hole to try to get yourself back into the floor of the game or get yourself back in rhythm instead of just shooting them goddamn shots up like that.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, shots come far. Few in between against this OKC team. So when guys see a crease or an opportunity, Uncle Ocho, hell, they trying to get one off. Hey, hey, them boys sitting down, man, they God. And they got great, they got great guys who play individual defense, but they are great. Yeah, defensively, they are great team defensively. So it's going to be tough. It's. I think they going, they going to always make it, make it tough on Reeves and Smart. They got to find ways to continue to be effective. Obviously we know Smart will, but they got to find a way to get Austin Reeves into a rhythm, bro, asap.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And, and, and, and, and, and D A is going to have to stay in the game. He's gonna have to just keep his hands up and not foul because it really hurt because I thought he was playing really good. He was hitting the turnaround jumper. He's doing great on the glass. He was challenging shots. But when he goes out now you, now that's a big body that you don't have in the game. And, and at least you can give him the ball. He'll face up, he can put the, you know, he can shoot the little six to eight footer. That's not, that's not Jackson Hayes game. Jackson Hayes is a lob put effort and if he's not getting those. Had some turnovers, some ill advised turnovers tonight. But look, it's one game. I don't, I'm not sure they could, I'm not so sure what it's going to be. It might be much worse. What is that? Yeah, Thursday.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
But we go, hey, which game you going to? You're not, you're not going, you're not going to submit yourself that type of game.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Four next Monday.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
Okay, so that's like the game. They might get swept in.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That might be.
ISO Joe Johnson
Damn.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And the thing. Hey, Ocho, man.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
Yes, sir.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Every time I've seen the Lakers play okc. Yeah, they lost.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
Hey, how about you just don't go.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I thought about it.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
Yeah. Just, he just went.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
When Lebron. When Lebron. When LeBron. When Lebron broke the score record. Yeah, they played OKC. They lost.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
Damn.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I was at that game. Oh. I mean he had like 30. He, I think he had like 36, 38. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
He sent me that ball.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah. Hey, but you just went to a
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
game and they won yeah, but not when they play okc. Hey, it's two teams. When I watch them. Hey, Memphis, they beat hell out Memphis. Be a playoff. Be it regular season, Right? Who else they beat? The Hawks. I saw them beat the brakes off the Hawks, too.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, okay. Lakers.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I. I haven't seen him have one of those. Like, I was. I was almost gonna go to the game they played. It was a Saturday game and they played the Warriors. That was the game. Joe, he dropped 56 on the Warriors. I was like, damn it, let's do it.
ISO Joe Johnson
He going, hey, hey, he gonna do it.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That was. I mean, he was having an unbelievable. Because he was having an unbelievable season that year. That's the year he averaged 30 and him and Joel Embiid was going down for the. Going back and forth for the scoring title. The Pistons beat the Cavs 111 to 101. Cade Cunningham had 23. Tobias Harris kept up his hot streak. I got it. He had 20. Duncan Robinson chipped in with 19.
Inner Balance Oestra Advertiser
If you're feeling off fatigue, mood changes, skin shifts. Yet your labs say everything's normal. You're not alone. Meet Oestra from Inner Balance. The first all in one prescription strength bioidentical hormone cream that's natural and effective and only takes one drop, 10 seconds a day. Oestro replaces five to six products women typically use to treat symptoms and is third party tested to ensure the highest quality. Visit innerbalance.com today to start feeling like yourself again.
OnPlus Nicotine Pouches Announcer
That's innerbalance.com onplus nicotine pouches present comfort chronicles. A 10 o' clock tee time. How comfortable you show up in stretchy shorts, a breathable tee and maybe no socks. Let the dogs breathe while other sweat and pleated khakis. You're in your comfort zone. Bombing drives and in your pocket. Onplus Nicotine Pouches the softest pouch on the planet. Buy a can@onnicotine.com Products for tobacco consumers 21 years of age or older. Warning. This product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical.
Garnier/National Park Foundation Announcer
Garnier is proudly partnering with the National park foundation, the official non profit partner of the National Park Service. Garnier's support of the National Park Foundation Service Corps program is enabling young adults and veterans to help care for and enhance the national parks that we all love. The National park foundation and Garnier are proud to support these individuals as they explore future careers, gain practical field skills, develop confidence as leaders and help address priority projects across our national parks. Together, Garnier and the National park foundation are committed to a shared vision of preserving and protecting our most treasured places for future generations. Want to lend a hand? Explore Garnier's partnership with the National park foundation and learn how you can help support our national parks@garnier USA.com NPF support
Public Investing Announcer
for the show comes from Public, the investing platform for those who take it seriously. On Public you can build a multi asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto and now generated assets which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index with AI. It all starts with your prompt. From renewable energy companies with high free cash flow to semiconductor suppliers growing revenue over 20% year over year, you can literally type any prompt and put the AI to work. It screens thousands of stocks, builds a one of a kind index and lets you back test it against the S&P 500. Then you can invest in a few clicks. Generated assets are like ETFs with infinite possibilities, completely customizable and based on your thesis, not someone else's. Go to public.com podcast and earn an uncapped 1% bonus when you transfer your portfolio. That's public.com podcast paid for by Public Investing Brokerage Services by Open to the Public Investing Inc. Member FINRA and SIPC Advisory Services by Public Advisors llc, SEC Registered Advisors. Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice. Complete disclosures available at public.com disclosures this
Jacob Goldstein
is Jacob Goldstein from what's yous Problem? When you buy business software from lots of vendors, the costs add up and it gets complicated and confusing. Odoo solves this. It's a single company that sells a suite of enterprise apps that handles everything from accounting to inventory to sales. Odoo is all connected on a single platform in a simple and affordable way. You can save money without missing out on the features you need. Check out Odoo at o d o o.com that's o d o o.com Pistons
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
and an NBA record tying 12 game postseason losing streak against a single opponent. A drought that dated back to the 2007 Eastern Conference finals. Well, we know LeBron was a part of that. Game two is Thursday night in Detroit. Donovan Mitchell scored 23 points ending his NBA record streak of scoring 30 plus points and nine straight six openers. Jared Allen was limited to two points and three rebounds coming off a 22 and 19 performance in an elimination game against Toronto. I thought that was really the difference of the in the ball game. Yeah, is that he really didn't give him anything. I Don't, Joe, I need you to help me out. What is it with Harden and these turnovers, man?
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, What?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He got 43 and eight games. He got 43 turnovers in eight games, Joe.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
What, he had seven a night, huh?
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, listen, do y' all see the pressure that them boys putting on him? Everybody know. Now, you know what it is, Uncle Ocho. They pick his ass up full court. They wear him down, bro. That's what they do. And, you know, Detroit, look, as great as Cade is offensively, he's one of them guys who pick up full court. You look at Aman Thompson, he. Asua Thompson, he's. He. He's a guy who pick up full court. That youth. That youth comes into play. Hell, how old is James?
Joe (Host/Commentator)
30.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Got to be like 34. 35.
ISO Joe Johnson
34, 35, 35, 36. But, yeah, them young. Hey, man, them young boys picking up full court, making them work. They're making it work. They making them work. So, you know, hey, hey, hey.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They got making Donald Mitchell work, too.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah. Cause, hey, look, at one point, neither one of them was really playing well. I. I think they was able to get back in the game here. They tied the game in the fourth quarter, and then Detroit took off on another run. But I just. I don't know what it is about Cleveland, man. I mean, Jared. I mean, Allen coming off that huge game, and then how he come out here and give you this two and three. Come on, bro.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
That's it.
ISO Joe Johnson
Did he get hurt? Because he only played 18 minutes, but damn.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And looking at his numbers, that was 18 more than he should have played, right?
ISO Joe Johnson
I think what happened. Strus came off the bench, and he caught on. He caught high. He called. Maybe they was playing Mobley at the 5 a lot, but I think, you know, STR came in, gave him great energy. Schroeder did, too. Cleveland, they got enough to win. They just can't get consistency from. From certain guys.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The big.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, they can't get. Do you need your bigs?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, if you really think about it, you need your bigs. Them.
ISO Joe Johnson
Them bigs, Mobley and Allen, you need them to consistently be dominant. Uncle Ojo, you need them too, bro.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They should be with those two guys together. Should give you somewhere. Somewhere between 30 points and 20 to 28 rebounds a game. Between. Yeah, you got two seven footers. Yeah, they should own the glass. They got 12 rebounds between the two of them.
ISO Joe Johnson
I agree.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They got 16 points between the two of them. That's not enough. And considering they only playing with one Big. They played him with Durin, so that means Tobias or somebody else got to take Mobley. Yeah, Mobley with Tobias Harris on you, you simp.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, it's. Look, but hold on.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
Only. Only one of them is an offensive presence, though. Jared Allen, more of a defensive presence. So having. Having me between the two of them, having them 30. I mean, Allen might give you a game like that. What, every so often.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, he.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He should be a Joe, even. I'm not counting on him because I'm not running play for him.
ISO Joe Johnson
Right.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But I don't think it's asking an awful lot for him to give us 12 points a night off the glass to give us 18.
ISO Joe Johnson
I don't think. No, it's not. It's not. And when you look at it right, Detroit didn't even really play great, you know, and for them to win like this, like I said, I think with like four or five minutes left, uncle and Ocho, it was a tight game. I seen Harden at the line, shoot two free throws, but I don't know, man. I, I, you know, Cleveland got to find some consistency somewhere just to get a game. It's going to be tough to beat these boys because they've been tried and tested in that first round. You know, sometimes they wake you up
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
tonight with James. James Harden's 181st playoff game of his career. It was the 45th playoff game that he's had as many or more turnovers than field goals, which is exactly 25 of his career postseason games. He's turned the ball over as many or more times than he's had millions.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
Yeah, man. Hey, they keep track of all that.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Absolutely.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, hey.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
Damn.
ISO Joe Johnson
And he gotta tone it down. I'm saying he has to tone that down because the turnover that I seen that he had, bro, they, they.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They lead to easy buckets.
ISO Joe Johnson
They led to points. And you're right. He has to find a way to, to cut that down to about two, Two, maybe three, you know, in order for them to. To. To. To even stay in the game in this series, bro, them turnovers, man, these young teams gonna fuel off that.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah, but you know what? I know, but here, the thing that he's running into, Joe, and correct me if I'm wrong, see, when he's in Houston, he had to do a lot more, bro. You were a better team. Now, even when you with the Clippers, you would have better team. You don't. You shouldn't have to think that I have to do more because you have more help. He's still thinking he's in Houston where he doesn't have the help that he has now on Cleveland that he has with the Clippers, that he had with Sixers or he had with let that sink 45 of his 181 games in the postseason. He's had as many turnovers or more than made buckets.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That is James Harden, one of the greatest scorers this game has ever seen. Joe, we were having conversations just five to six years ago. Who's a better one on one scorer, James Harden, Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant? We were having serious discussions. Not just us, everybody was.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Because we watched James Harden go 25, 30 straight games or giving you 30. He was the first guy with a 60 point triple double. We watched him just, just go crazy. And we like, have we ever seen. I'm talking about ISO. Have we ever seen anybody that's a better ISO score than James Harden?
ISO Joe Johnson
Maybe not, bro. Not.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But. But we get him in the playoffs. We saw him against the, the Warriors. I think he got the record. I think he got 14 turnovers in a game. Joe, how many double. How many playoff games did he have? Double digit turnover. I think he got like five or six, which is crazy. And I understand he's going to have a high usage rate. He's led the league in usage. He has the ball in his hands. But when you turn the ball over
ISO Joe Johnson
that much, yeah, it's going to be hard to win. And you know what's crazy is James is a great off ball. He can play off. Donovan Mitchell, he can play off the ball. It ain't like he can't catch and shoot. Uncle Ocho, he can catch and shoot with some of the best of them. But the problem is that what you have is once a guy like that gives the ball up, I'm face guarding him, bro. Y' all playing four on four. So he understands that's, that's gonna keep him. He ain't gonna be engaged in the game if he just continue to play off of Donovan and Mobley and Allen. So he, you know, some certain situations, certain situations he kind of force it, you know what I mean? So I think he has to find a happy medium in that. And they gotta find ways to man, take some of that pressure off of him, get him some easy baskets. Because twice in his career he'd be, he'd be forcing, he'd be forcing some stuff out there time. From time to time.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But here's the thing though, Joe, and it's really hard and I think you got to give LeBron some credit, when you used to having the ball. James Harden has had the ball in his hand for a decade, and now you ask him to give it up and play off of it. It's harder than you think. It's like being a number one receiver, and all of a sudden, don't you. They say, we'll go to number two, right? Or go to number three. Yeah, what you mean? Hold on. What you mean? I ain't the first read. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm used to hearing. Hold up. I used to hear xd. I'm used to hear you tag something. Yeah, I'm here to use. I'm here. You say Z out. Whoa, whoa, hold up now. You said X, dig, Y, shallow, Z out. That means I'm la. I'm third, right? So that means if Ocho is available, so that means that if he's available, I ain't gonna get. I ain't getting the ball. But if he's not available and here come the Y, I still ain't getting the. Whoa, whoa, hold on. Time out, man. It gets. People don't understand. And people are, oh, it'll be eat. No, it's not right. When you've been the man and all of a sudden you not the man. Hey, because guess what, Ocho, all they still see is Harden on the back of that Jersey. They see 13 or whatever number he is, and they expect you to do exactly what you doing, even though you don't have this ball in your head to be able to do it right. How you expect me to get you 1500 yards and I'm catching 50 passes down for my night? The hell.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, they gotta take. They. They see, taking the ball out of his hand is gonna take his usage rate down, which is going to take his scoring down. And now and then, everybody gonna be like, oh, damn. Well, this ain't the same James he used to be. Well, of course he's not. He's playing on a much better team now. He's probably just giving you 19, 20 points a game versus giving you 27, 28. But damn, your usage rate, James. The same, bro. We don't need that.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But guess what, Joe? You give me 45, 50 with seven turnovers, I'm overlooking that. Huh? What turnovers? I ain't see no turnovers. Now, Joe, you give me 19 points and you got seven turnovers. I'm looking at your stuff with a microscope. Yeah, so for so long, he put up those goddy numbers, man, you ain't even thinking about no turnovers. It's kind of like Luca. Luca have a high turnover ratio, but he's so proficient at scoring the basketball, man. Damn. I don't damn them turnovers.
ISO Joe Johnson
Right.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And you don't really think about them until they late in the ball game or they cost you a game, and then you like, well, damn. Luca had this many turnovers, but you weren't saying anything when he had dropped 45 at that point. And so I think that it's hard for Jay. It's hard to reinvent yourself when you. When you been this way one time. Basically, since he left okc, he's been the guy.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And he's been the guy.
ISO Joe Johnson
He's used his. All his offense has been his defense. Uncle Ocho, because he could outscore anybody he's played against. But.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But.
ISO Joe Johnson
But now, you know, with that toning down a little bit, hell, man. Hey, you gotta sacrifice a little bit. You know, you. You say you want to win, your numbers may not look as gaudy as you would want them to. You know what I'm saying? So.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, but that's. That's the sacrifice that comes along with it. You got to be willing to. You have to be willing to give up something.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And you know, KD going to okc. Excuse me. Going to the Warriors. Even Steph. Steph sacrificed his game. KD sacrificed some of his game. Clayton, all of a sudden, he went from the second option to the third option. Yeah, but in order to win, if I'm trying to win a championship, if my goal. Because everybody says they want to win a championship, right? But a lot of times, Joe, they want to win a championship their way. I want to win this championship, but I still need to get my 32. I ain't trying to get 24 in. Cause y' all ain't gonna say.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
And you know what. And you know what, Uncle Joe, that add even more pressure. Not only is it the playoffs, right?
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
Then we taking the ball out your hand, then you got the. Now you worried about turning the ball over. And then on top of that, you got to be efficient because you ain't got the ball. Being able to shoot like you want to. Like you. Like you did before.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That is correct.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, look, but he's aggressive. I mean, think about it. He went to the free. He went to the free throw line nine times. Donovan Mitchell only went to the free throw line twice. Shot two free throws.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh. Oh. You know, can't nobody seek out contact better than James Harden. You know, you. You watch the game. I'm Talking about he uses your aggression to his advantage every time. I'm talking about every time you make a mistake on defense, he gonna make your ass to the line. You, you come out there with one of them wild ass closeouts trying to stop me. Yeah, I'm going right by you. We touch shoulder to shoulder.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm coming.
ISO Joe Johnson
I'm coming up through like this.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes. So hey, don't and don't, hey. Don't be reaching out when he out there like this here. Cause all he gonna do is he,
ISO Joe Johnson
he, he has mastered craftiness. He's super crafty. Hell, he a lefty. He already got an advantage. We know how lefties are any damn way we feel like they got the
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
advantage, all of them. I ain't never seen one that wasn't crafty and scored.
ISO Joe Johnson
So. So I think James got to figure it out. Hey, I got a question. Do you think he can. Do you. Do you think he still got it in him to give you a game
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
where you go for 40? Yeah, he can. Yeah, I believe he could. I still believe he have it in. Yeah, I think he can give you a game like that. He could. He could, he could. He could rewind the hands of time. We saw it in Philly when he was there in Philly gave you that 50 point game. I think of what Game 6. Game 5. Game 6. We've seen him have a monster. Have monster games. What's his highest output game in with the Clippers,
ISO Joe Johnson
I wonder. It's gonna be hard to do that against this Detroit team, though.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah. Because they got, I mean, because you got Cade or you got Thompson on him. Yeah. And both of those guys are elite defenders.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, man. And they ain't giving up nothing easy neither. And no, I'm talking about it's so physical out there just to run a pick and roll so. Let alone trying to score 20 points. I, I don't know if he can give you 40 in this series. It'll be tough. He gonna have to be hot as fish grease, boy. I'm talking about
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
you say give you 40. I thought you said could he give you 40. I thought you talking about like 80 point time, but you talking about this.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, he go, but that's what I'm talking about. He gonna need one in this area.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
Oh, hey, look, he can see can some of the. He can summons it up once. Especially if him shots start falling early.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He definitely could.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
Somebody summons it up once.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But the thing is, it's the, you know, I look at Paulo and how Paulo gave you 45. But Paulo was doing it in a. Hey, he was getting to the midi was going, his A three ball was going. I mean he got like three and ones back to back to back and then they play up off him and now they drop off him and now he pull up with the three. He just had one of those, he's just having one of those out of bodies.
ISO Joe Johnson
I don't, hey, and I think he
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
can give you 30, I think he can give you a game where you get 30 and 10.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, I, I, I think that's possible. But you know what I see is James Harden foot speed. It ain't fast as these guys for, for the Pistons, man. You know, like he crafty enough to get by you and get a foul, but if you telling me he can go 12 for 16 or something like that, that's gonna be tough, man. That's gonna be tough.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I don't know.
ISO Joe Johnson
It's gonna be tough.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
His most, his highest scoring game at The Clippers is 32. 30. You got 33 and a 32. And one of those was over with the Clippers.
ISO Joe Johnson
That was it. That's the highest he ever scored with the Clippers.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh yeah, but he did have a 50 point playoff game against in Philly, right?
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, he did.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay. Yeah, he had four like 245. 244. And what that was against Boston. Remember? He rewind the hands of time back against Boston, had everybody oh James, James, James. And then he came out there that game seven and gave you like eight points.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, you talking about Braun do a lot of walking. I'll be checking James out too now.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
Oh yeah, yeah, he'd be out there chilling, you know.
ISO Joe Johnson
See, here's the thing. When you know the play ain't for you, you just kind of just, you know, you just walking around. You just out there here. I noticed that a lot. I noticed that a lot. Cause when the play for you here you in another gear when it ain't for you. Ocho, you out there, you, you give me that false ass.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ocho, how we do when the rock. When the rock they call our number. We sprint out the huddle like the Ocho. Hey, hey, man, I'm damn. They get the delay a game. The play ain't for me. I'm like third of the progression. I'm damn, they're getting the and get to the line. Hey, come on.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
Hey you, you getting the ball. You give everything away and you are you all hype and happy? Hey, uncle, you getting to the line, you know Restrapping your gloves.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, the hell the man guarding you, he know the damn play for you. Damn sharpie.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
Or he knows. He know it's coming.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I think the thing plus Joe, no, Joe, I think the thing with Bron. Bron be so hyped early, especially if he get a basket and the next thing you know, he get a steal or they in transition, he laid up. But you expect. I give pride. Look at game three. You see how he started out? Up and down, up and down. Then all of a sudden. You gotta. Hey, you gotta pay. Hey, but you. It's hard. It's hard because people don't realize, like when you run it. When you run it around, you don't breathe. Yeah, you like. People like. Thank you.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah. Nah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
ISO Joe Johnson
Nah,
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
don't breathe going on. But he's got to do a better job, though, Joe. He's just got to do a better job taking care of the basketball and their bigs. Got to do a better job than what they get. Hey, you, come on, man. I can't get no damn 16 points and 12 rebounds from my two bigs. I got two seven footers. They got one.
ISO Joe Johnson
I know, man. They. Hey, Cleveland got to do better. I mean, this is. I mean, this carbon copy what we've been talking about them, you know, being consistent, being them big. I mean, I think Mobley got the talent, Uncle Ocho to where hell, he could get you 22 to 25 a night. I think that should be a given, bro, considering the talent that this kid got. He's just not aggressive a lot of the times, you know what I mean? It's kind of like he defers a lot to Donovan and James Harden and you don't need to, bro. He got to be aggressive. He has to be one of the guys. He got to feel like he is the guy.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes. And it's just hard, Joe, when you're a young player and you got veteran players. James has been an all star. He's an all NBA. He's an mvp. Donovan been an all Star, an all NBA selection. It's just hard for a young player to say, you know what? Hey, it's my time now. Hey,
Joe (Host/Commentator)
they got to insert themselves, especially when the two veteran players not shooting well. They not efficient shoot.
OnPlus Nicotine Pouches Announcer
You take. You take the lead.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
Well, maybe you're not allowed to do that.
ISO Joe Johnson
No, you can. It just depends on your demeanor. He just doesn't. He just doesn't have that type of game. And it's just not his mindset, you know, it's like he A great piece to a team and he occasionally, you know, had these monster games. But when you look at him and you watch him play, you like. I mean, hell, look at tonight, bro. He was the highest plus, minus. He was a minus. Damn. 18 tonight. Dang. You can't have that from your beat, you know, not, not one of the guys who you relying on, not, you know, for scoring and, and defense. Like he's a guy who. You can go to hell. Oh, he scored the he in the last series. They went to him at the end of the game. You know what I mean? It ain't like.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes. In game six, the overtime together.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, they went to him and you know, he made a strong move score with the left hand. I just feel like he has to assert himself a little more.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I agree, I agree, Joe. But I think the thing is, is that this joker here, man, I'm like, Bro, YouTube.
ISO Joe Johnson
I, I don't know, I don't, I
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
don't know what it is about Donovan Mitchell's game is that. And like I said, it's one game. Let's see how it plays out. But yeah, we've kind of seen this movie, man. I don't know what it is about. I don't know what it is about him, but it's. Look, Joe, when you really think about. Ain't been a whole lot of small. I don't know how tall. Donna. Yeah.
ISO Joe Johnson
563.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, they, they've only been. They've only. If you really look at it, they've been really two guys that have been six, four under that lead their team to championships. That's D. Wade, that's Steph Curry.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
All the other been big ass guards. Magic Johnson, Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Guard. Let. And Isaiah Thomas. I take that back. Three, Isaiah. So think about that. In the history of the game, where you getting a guard that's leading your team to a championship? Hey, it's only been done by three in the 80 year history.
ISO Joe Johnson
Well, Donovan's comparison.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Donovan, Donovan, six two. Yeah, six two, that's it.
ISO Joe Johnson
He played big though, bro.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Oh, he got, he got, he got
ISO Joe Johnson
bunnies and he got long ass arms. Yeah. I don't know if y' all really pay attention, but to basketball players, when you short like that and like Donovan, okay, if he's six two, six three, got about a 68 wingspan. You feel what I'm saying? Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes. So cuz Joe, you watch him? Hey, I watch this. I like, bro, I don't know when you started doing this, but he'll get the ball.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And come over the top and you know.
ISO Joe Johnson
You know who they compared? They compared him to D Wad. That was D Wad move. He st. That's D, man. They. That was his. That was his comparison coming into the NBA. Dwayne way he stole.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right about that. I forgot about that. It sure is. He said a friend of mine got fired for talking about flop. I feel like that's what I got to do at this point. I'm just not getting the calls. I don't know why I don't. And I don't flop. Maybe that's why Donovan said that they found they. You remember jb Jalen Brown complained about Joel Embiid flopping? They find him $50,000. So he. I guess he's talking. He's making reference to JB talking about flopping and got fired. But he says, hey, maybe that's what I need to do. Excuse me. To get some of these calls is flop a little bit.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
They find him for that.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, you can't criticize the officiating. They find.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, I don't necessarily think he. It's not really flopping. It's more of like, a little subtle flail, you know, I want. Like, flopping is just that. That out of control, like, just acting like somebody. Them punch you in your. In the back of your head, right? That's flopping like. Like, you know what I mean?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But.
ISO Joe Johnson
But the great scorers, bro, they do. They got a little flailing in their game now. I mean, hell, he better take a page out of James Harden book because he do it with the best of them.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And. But you. But you, as you get older, though, Joe, they don't give you them.
ISO Joe Johnson
But you know what? And if that ain't your game, bro, it's hard to play like that, Uncle. Ooh. You know, I was a guy who. Who loves going to basketball, but I ain't. Hell, I probably averaged about three to four, maybe five free throws. You know, these guys not averaging. Shell 12 free throws a night, man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Shay shot one time, shot 24, 25 free throws. Hell, bam. Shot 40.
ISO Joe Johnson
It's like they contact Seekers, bro. Like, it. I wasn't. I wasn't. One of them guys. I wasn't one of them guys who. Who used to seek contact like that. I mean, y' all make contact, but I'm trying to initiate it. I ain't necessarily trying to, you know, receiving and then flail. I'm, you know, I'm using it for momentum. So it just depends on, you know, Some guys understand it and some, you know, are just natural born scores.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, not me. Ocho and I were a lot alike. I wasn't seeking no contact because I ain't want to get close to you so you can grab me because I already know what you're gonna do. You're gonna grab the holy. You're holding beat.
ISO Joe Johnson
Don't, don't.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So I already know what you're gonna do. I ain't playing bumper. That's if you look at like big guys like Gronk, what I call bumper car, he bump into you and. And buck good off you. Jason will play like that. Godzales play like that. Nah, bro, I'm 225, bro. I can't let you get your hands on me. You the whole hell out of me. And then what I'm gonna do, I'm gonna be looking at coach like, hey, he holding. Yeah, you. You using your speed. I'm using speed. I'm getting skinny. I'm half a man. Hey, you see this, right? Yay. You never gonna get this right here. You'll get this. You gonna get this. Well, you getting that? That's.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
What's it. That's it.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, Joe, I wax on, wax off. Wow.
ISO Joe Johnson
Nah, hell no. They hold too much.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But like you said, see, and that would, that would throw me off because the first thing they do. Cause now I did what I would do, especially a defensive lineman, like if I'm trying to cut a defensive lineman off, I would grab him and slingshot. So I would use, I would take. I would grab him by the waist, try to cut him off, pull myself forward. Yeah, right here, ref you something, bro. Stop complaining, man. Your big 300 pound ass calling real talk about. I held you. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. Oh, hey, but yeah, man. Hey, all that. You got to learn the tricks of the trade, bro.
ISO Joe Johnson
When you first come into the league, you don't really know him. But I. I think like for me playing with veteran guys, Antoine Walker, Paul Pierce, guys who love to score, you start to find little nuances of the game. Like, damn, you know, you start to pick up on it because, you know, they use it against you in practice and all that. So once you pick up on it and you get it, you right, you gotta find them little ways that you can score and get easy buckets. I was one of them. I was one of them guys, bro. Hey, look, I'm trying to learn every day. I'm a sponge. I'm out here. Anything I can pick up or I Can steal from your game and add to mine.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
Yeah.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yep, I'm doing it.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
Yeah. You know, I got some tools in the toolbox, Joe. You could use it in the big three.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, what you got you gonna see
Joe (Host/Commentator)
when I use it on your ass.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, it's the subtle stuff. It's amazing how many times guys are. But, yeah, bro, anytime a man watches weight, bro, ain't nobody look. And you a special DB if you looking at that guy's waist. That ain't nobody. I mean, that's what Reevan and Reevis had to be watching that because that joke is so patient. Reavis ain't going nowhere. He ain't biting the first move. Hey, all he gonna do is get him log ass off. That's another one. He walking knuckle scrubbing the ground, Joe. I mean, you looking at Joker like, ain't no way that man arms that long.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah. That's a huge advantage, bro, when you got them long arms for DB Yeah,
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
man, and he's strong. He's strong. His hands. His hands are really, really strong. So now he can control you. He can do this.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Because all you gonna do. Hey, he gonna get on top of you. He gonna. Hey, he gonna ride you, and you're gonna look back, and as he's looking back, he's riding your ass right out of bounds.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, you know, in basketball, they. It's taught the same way, you know, Watch his waist. You know what I'm saying? Hell, he can't go nowhere without that waist. Don't watch that ball. That ball gonna have you on that damn flow all over the place. You need to watch his ways here. He can't get. He can't go nowhere without that waist.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, I had a coach tell me, say, son, give him that little head. What man can resist head?
Joe (Host/Commentator)
Ah, that little indicator.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They bite it every time. No, you don't, bro. I was gonna go there. I was thinking about going inside. But you know what? You beat me to that point.
ISO Joe Johnson
You gotta bet him.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But, yeah, you gotta learn those trades this trial. Especially if you don't have a veteran play a veteran player. That teach you? I. I mean, I. I mean, I. The guys, they wasn't receiving tight ends that I played with, they were blockers. So I gotta learn everything I gotta. I'm trying stuff in practice. Hell, if it worked, I'll try it again. If it didn't work, gotta scrap that, dude. Cover the hell out of me on that plate.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
Yeah,
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
you gotta trial and error the NB the 2026 NBA playoffs delivered the most watched first round in 33 years. Game 7 of the 76ers Celtics on May 2 is the most watched first round. Game 7, averaging 11 million viewers on NBC and Peacock. The first round average 4 million viewers per game across ABC, ESPN, Amazon Prime Video, and NBC. Peacock. Joe, what is it about this year's playoffs that got people and everybody, man, they got these games all spread out, man, I ain't paying all that money. Somebody paying something because they watch is the most watched in 33 years.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
Yeah.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, it's. It's exciting. You don't. I think it's the unknown for real. I mean, as much as, you know, everybody got OKC winning it. Hell, you really don't know, because San Antonio, scary, you know what I mean? I think with Jason Tatum coming back and giving Boston that edge, kind of catapulted them into, you know, making it to the NBA Finals at the East. And now I think everybody is. Is. Is intrigued to, you know, what may happen. So I. I'm glad the ratings is up, but I don't know how the hell they up due to the games on all these different damn apps. Like, okay, if the ratings up, then Peacock and Amazon, they making a damn killing, ain't it?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, yeah, yeah. Damn, they'd be getting on us, talking about, man, you got too many ads. Hell, y' all don't tell them that worth that. How many ads you see in the super bowl? They run 200 ads in the Super Bowl.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
Oh, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
$8 million of ass. And y' all sit right there and watch them. I got a little. I got like four or five ads in there. You talking about.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And hey, that's Cold Shadow. Yeah, that's Cold Shadow. Download the app today.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, but. But I. I agree. I think you look at it and Detroit. I think Detroit being. And look, they love Detroit Basketball in the back. Yeah, the spurs, they're back. Look, the Lakers are the Lakers. The Knicks are the Knicks.
ISO Joe Johnson
Right?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You got these fan bases that no matter what, Knicks, Lakers, Celtics.
ISO Joe Johnson
Philly.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Philly. Yeah, Philly. But when you get these young teams like, oh, my team finally in the playoffs after a long time, think about San Antonio hadn't been in the playoffs in a long, long time. Yes, they're back. You got Detroit. They've been in the playoffs a couple. But people, their fan base believe, man, we got a realistic chance to get to the NBA Finals.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
Right?
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Orlando. I'm. I'm glad. I'm glad. I'm glad these It's. It's looking like this. It's. I'm glad the NBA, because look, they. They. These. Amazon and. And.
ISO Joe Johnson
And.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And NBC and Peacock, they spent a lot of money.
ISO Joe Johnson
Espinning.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Spent a lot of money. What? Seven billion. Seven billion dollars.
ISO Joe Johnson
Damn.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
That's why you want your superstars playing, huh?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's why.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
That's why you want your superstars playing. Joe, the product is the product that's on the court. You know the player. They have the playoffs every single year, but the product that's on the court this year, it has people wondering.
ISO Joe Johnson
I agree. I agree.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
We want to see this game. We want to see Ant, man. We want to see Brunson. We want to see Embiid and Maxi.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, you want. That's why the numbers going up.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
Hey, but hell, if they. If they. If they not playing or the product that's on the court is not good, who the hell tuning in?
ISO Joe Johnson
I agree, man.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
Outside of like Avid.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Avid?
Joe (Host/Commentator)
Yeah, basketball scene. Basketball.
ISO Joe Johnson
I agree. I agree. That's why we got to get the. We got to get the big three ratings up, man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We.
ISO Joe Johnson
We gotta. We need more. We need more stars to come play.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They scared. Hey, I mean, who.
ISO Joe Johnson
Who. See, the thing is. The thing is a lot of cats, you gotta really love it, bro, because a lot of us are kind of up in age. And hell, if you didn't play 12, 15, 18 years in the NBA
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
because
ISO Joe Johnson
you ain't trying to keep your body in that type of shape. And you see that with a lot of these guys who retire, bro, they just kind of, you know, let themselves go. See, I ain't. What. I love staying in shape. That's why I can still enjoy playing the game. It's when. It's when you got all these. You bogged down with all these injuries and you stay out of shape is that the game is not fun to you no more. You know what I mean? But hell, we're on a national stage, bro. You know, we just need to. We need a couple stars to come join the league. Boost. Boost the ratings up a little bit. Get us out there, you know?
Joe (Host/Commentator)
Okay. Hey, Joe, listen to me now. You know, I check my availability, man.
ISO Joe Johnson
You don't need to worry about nobody but me, partner. That's it. You don't. You don't need to worry about nobody but me.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
A couple years, Joe, Brian might come out there and join y'.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
All.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, he might. I can see his ass doing that. They'll pay him big money to come out there and play. I gotta.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I Gotta.
ISO Joe Johnson
I'm gonna have to hit him. Let him know. Hey, man, I'm still be kicking. God damn. Hey, don't forget your boy. Come run with me.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, but. Yeah, I mean, this. This has been very exciting because the game. You think about some of the. The closeness of the games. Games have been very, very interesting. Yeah, you've had some blowouts, but you think about all these game sevens.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, that's a. A More basketball. More basketball. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Cleveland was a game seven. Philly was a game seven. Orlando Detroit was a game seven. Now, we didn't get any game Sevens in the Western Conference, but you got
ISO Joe Johnson
some good damn games because they start study.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We got some because we had some good.
ISO Joe Johnson
The west so stacked from top to bottom. Hell, first round, you got Minnesota playing Denver. Hell, everybody want to see that.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And then you got LeBron and KD going head to head.
ISO Joe Johnson
The ratings would have been a lot better too, with that. I mean, they probably was still high series because of LeBron, but, hell, if you had Katie out there and they made that thing a series and they went by seven, we.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yep.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Or mess around and get let. Stephen, but he would have. Well, Steph, if you'd have been in the playoff, man, you wouldn't have been able to. Went to the Met Gala. So it's.
ISO Joe Johnson
You did.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You did all right.
ISO Joe Johnson
Right.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Did y' all see the video of J R Smith getting knocked over by Knicks fans?
ISO Joe Johnson
I seen that.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Let's take a look at this video.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
Hey, that was funny. J.R. was like, hey, chill, relax, relax.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Damn, Ain't nobody gonna help the man.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, let me tell y' all something. Y' all know them. Damn, them damn Knicks fans, boy. They don't play about their Knicks, bro. They. They. They real fanatics over there. Hey, look, Uncle Ocho, I. I lived in Manhattan when I played for the Nets. And, man, me and my son, we. We had these electric scooters we used to ride down through Manhattan. Y' all know it. Stay busy. I had a dude ride past me. He was like, the Nets. This next country, you in Manhattan. Yeah. He yelled this out his window. Them folks don't play boy by their nick. So I don't know what Jay. I was thinking about being out there in gym pop like that,
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Especially after
ISO Joe Johnson
a game, like, weird.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I mean, can you imagine? You try to go out to your team, win a big game, or you win the super bowl, or you win the World Series, the NBA Championship, and you take your ass out there and celebrate with them fades, man, they standing on top of cars they flipping police cars. They bad.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hell, listen, bro, you bet.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
You better be ready.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm gonna be in my window. Oh, boy, they crazy down there.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, listen, we talk about if the Knicks make the finals. Damn the finals. If the Knicks get out this round and get back to the Eastern Conference finals, they gonna act a fool, bro.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I don't even. Joe, look here. I don't even wanna. I don't even want to imagine what that thing will be about they get to the NBA Finals. Joe. Hey, you gotta realize how long it's
ISO Joe Johnson
got that National Guard out there. Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, Joe, man, what you call about be out there with him, Spike Lee and Tracy Morgan. Everything I do.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah. They will tear that city up, bro.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They will flip it for a championship. Do you understand what a championship mean to the Knicks? I mean, for the. For the New York.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, man, hold on.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It goes. If the Yankees and the Knicks, then the Giants. Listen, Jets, I'm sorry. Jetson, Mets, I'm. Y' all out there on the Island. Y' all Long island, stuff like that. But the Yankees, the Knicks and the Giants.
ISO Joe Johnson
Lord, listen, not only would it be huge for New York if the Knicks got to the finals and won it. That should have been. Oh, that should be huge for basketball, period, bro. Hey, but they gonna tear New York up. I'm talking about Brunson. They gonna have the whole next thing. They gonna. They gonna. They gonna. They gonna be on Mount Rushmore up there, like the whole team. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, he. Oh, oh. If Brunson take this team and they win the fight. Oh, he absolutely. He up there with Willis Reed and Clyde and. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yes, he's there. Hey, I'm sorry. He gonna kick Patrick.
ISO Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Or Champ bad. Look here. Those teams like that, they. They revere champions over. I don't care how win a championship, man.
ISO Joe Johnson
They. That boy be. That. Not only Brunson, but they team will be beloved in New York, bro. They gonna be.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
Hey, never have to pay for anything ever again, Jo.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Never ever again. Never.
ISO Joe Johnson
Them folks don't play about them nicks.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You see? You see what it did for Jeter? You see what it did for Straight?
Joe (Host/Commentator)
Yes, sir.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Stray is a D lineman. And get love. Can you imagine if Stray was a quarterback or wide receiver,
Joe (Host/Commentator)
man?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Man, that ninja been mayor, a governor, or whatever he wanted to be. Look at Jeter. Just imagine if Aaron Judge brings a World Series. Look how they look at Eli. Eli don't even talk.
ISO Joe Johnson
Hey, the Yankees still.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Eli don't got a picture.
ISO Joe Johnson
Still got Sting over there. Is he still over there, too?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Giancarlo St. Yeah, yeah, he's still there.
ISO Joe Johnson
Oh, is he?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, he. He wound tighter than guitar screens. He always pull us up back hamstring, quad something.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
Yeah, I, I'm, I, I'm, I'm. I'm just picturing the goddamn Knicks understanding what New York City gonna be upside down, bro. Man, I'm talking about.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I got Ben Stiller, Tracy Morgan.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
Yes, sir.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Man, ain't no telling what them jokers do. Jimmy Fallon. Hey, Spike Lee gonna lose his mind. Because Spike Lee ain't seen a championship since. Spike was probably 20, 22 when they last won a championship with Willis Reed. Man, Spike Lee losing damn mind.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
What's up now, y'? All don't be surprised now. I didn't say it at first, nothing. Boy, when they got down, they win that goddamn chip. And you see the goddamn Statue of Liberty being carried through the city.
ISO Joe Johnson
All right.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No.
ISO Joe Johnson
All right. Yeah. You might, though. You might. Ain't no telling, boy.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
Hey, ain't no telling. Don't put it past him now.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, my goodness. Spike Lee gonna be out of his mind. Cause, hey, they won a game. If Spike Lee over there celebrating, can you imagine? They win a championship, man, you ain't gonna be a hit. Spanking ass with a red apple.
Inner Balance Oestra Advertiser
Fatigued, mood changes, skin shifts. Labs say everything's normal. You're not alone. Most estrogen or progesterone. Topical and oral treatments only work about 20% Oestra from inner balance is a prescription strength bioidentical hormone cream for menopause and perimenopause relief. Vaginal hrt, like Oestra offers better absorption, effective symptom relief, fewer side effects. Stop juggling multiple products. Feel balanced again. Visit innerbalance.com feel like yourself again.
OnPlus Nicotine Pouches Announcer
That's innerbalance.com onplus nicotine pouches present comfort chronicles a 10 o' clock tee time. How comfortable you show up in stretchy shorts, breathable tea and maybe no socks. Let the dogs breathe. While other sweat and pleated khakis. You're in your comfort zone. Bombing drives. And in your pocket. OnPlus nicotine pouches. The softest pouch on the planet. Buy a can@onnicotine.com Products for tobacco consumers 21 years of age or older.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Warning.
OnPlus Nicotine Pouches Announcer
This product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm U.S. transportation Secretary Sean Duffy. We all get distracted when we drive, whether it's from our phones or kids in the backseat bickering.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
But how we handle these distractions can
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
be a matter of life or death.
Joe (Host/Commentator)
Before you get on the road for
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
your next road trip, please put your
Joe (Host/Commentator)
phones on silent and take a mental note to focus on driving. Paid for by NHTSA
Garnier/National Park Foundation Announcer
Hear that? That's the sound of your skin silently crying out for hydration. Luckily, Dr. Teals has just the thing to get you glowing in no time. Meet Dr. Teals Skin renewal Deep Hydration, made with a proprietary triple magnesium complex. Plus skincare actives for 50% improved skin hydration. After just one bath, the words dry and dehydrated are about to be wiped from your vocabulary. Find Dr. Teals all dressed in blue in your local bath aisle. Dr. Teals Yep, you needed that.
Jacob Goldstein
Jacob this is Jacob Goldstein from what's yous Problem? When you buy business software from lots of vendors, the costs add up and it gets complicated and confusing. Odoo solves this. It's a single company that sells a suite of enterprise apps that handles everything from accounting to inventory to sales. Odoo is all connected on a single platform in a simple and affordable way. You can save money without missing out on the features you need. Check out odoo@odoo.com. that's o d o o com.
Topic: NBA Playoffs Deep Dive – Thunder roll over Lakers, Pistons' control, NBA ratings boom, and J.R. Smith’s NYC experience
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe (Unc), Chad Ochocinco Johnson (Ocho), ISO Joe Johnson (Joe)
This episode of Nightcap on Club Shay Shay takes a spirited look at the opening salvos of the 2026 NBA playoffs. Shannon, Chad, and Joe break down the dominant OKC Thunder win over the Lakers in Game 1, discuss Detroit's big victory over Cleveland, analyze James Harden and Donovan Mitchell’s struggles, debate the surging NBA TV ratings, and share laughs about J.R. Smith getting bowled over by hyped-up Knicks fans. The trio blends technical basketball analysis with signature humor, banter, and seasoned player insight.
[02:22–24:24]
Notable Quotes & Analysis:
“With Austin Reaves giving you these numbers and the bench basically non-existent, you’re not going to be able to beat OKC.”
– Shannon Sharpe (03:47)
“It’s the pressure, man. The pressure that those guys bring not only at you offensive UNC and oo, but defensively, bro. They fuel off them turnovers.”
– ISO Joe Johnson (06:02)
OKC’s relentless defense and transition game praised; their bench production and team completeness highlighted as an ongoing theme.
On LeBron:
On Lakers’ Challenges:
Injuries:
[19:32–24:24]
Historical context:
Declining sustainability in LeBron’s game:
OKC’s historical place:
[36:58–47:54]
Pistons snap postseason drought vs Cavs (win 111–101):
Cavs’ issues:
Harden’s evolving role:
Donovan Mitchell:
[66:25–69:10]
[72:57–78:56]
The discussion features rapid-fire exchanges, humor, storytelling, and detailed basketball insight—authentic to the personalities of Sharpe, Ochocinco, and Joe. Banter, friendly clowning, and inside jokes abound. The hosts balance technical basketball analysis with relatable pro athlete anecdotes.
Recommended for fans wanting in-depth NBA playoff basketball talk with an authentic locker room perspective and plenty of laughs. Skip this one if you’re only interested in highlights—instead, here you get the story behind the numbers and the unfiltered truth from former pros.