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Joe Thomas
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Shannon Sharpe
Time for Q and a no rush 75 said, we strive, we thrive. No jive pacers and five. Quizzy said cat and on different teams, but going home at the same time. Pat Dove says I'm looking forward to the Knicks getting bounced. Summertime in New NYC is already enough shenanigans. Don't need to supersize the nonsense. And P Dub, I thought you want to. Want them to go to the. To the NBA final.
Joe Thomas
You know them.
Shannon Sharpe
If.
Joe Thomas
If the Knicks. If the Knicks was the winner, you know, with New York, they gonna turn that thing upside down.
Ocho Cinco
I told you what happened. If the Knicks was to go, let's say go to the finals, the statue literally gonna start walking and switch hands. You gonna. The torch gonna switch hands.
Joe Thomas
Man, listen, they win this next game, it's gonna. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Milo said, the current NBA generation is so weak. Joe Johnson was better player than Ant Man Brunson and Halliburton. If only teams built around their players then like they do now.
Joe Thomas
Well, it's a different game now. Okay. You know, when I came into the league, you had two traditional bigs. Your four man was not shooting three. Your five man was not shooting three. You played inside out.
Shannon Sharpe
Yep.
Joe Thomas
Yeah, that's how you play nowadays.
Shannon Sharpe
If you.
Joe Thomas
You need a scoring point guard. And that's who we going to play through.
Shannon Sharpe
Yep.
Joe Thomas
If you got a scoring point guard or scoring two or scoring three, they don't play through the big no more. The bees got to get it how they live. Hey, get that thing off the glass.
Shannon Sharpe
The only big that they play through is Yoke.
Joe Thomas
That's it. Him and mb. That's it.
Shannon Sharpe
Everybody else, but they don't.
Joe Thomas
They probably the only true centers that we have left in the game that can play with their back to the basket and face up.
Shannon Sharpe
Because at the time, Joe, there's only one guy that can shoot the ball. And the three, the big, that was Dirk. It wasn't those. Yeah, the only stretch.
Joe Thomas
Yeah, because you look at it, even Tim Duncan, kg, none of them dudes are shooting three problems. But they weren't shooting three. Boy, they was. They was Masters back to the basket.
Shannon Sharpe
A one, a one. Dig said my boy Ocho got on them Levar Burton shades on from Star Trek. What you got on Ocho? Yeah, Colin says he asked a question. What do y' all think is gonna happen First Lions winning the super bowl or Ocho paying Unc his money?
Joe Thomas
I'm just keeping it real, man. I can't.
Shannon Sharpe
I can't keep sitting here and tell.
Joe Thomas
Y' all no lie.
Ocho Cinco
Now, come on, man. Don't do that, man. Don't do that.
Joe Thomas
I just call like I see it.
Ocho Cinco
But also, you don't see. You don't see the other part. I've been trying to. I told uncle, there's many apps in the world. They've tech, they've made. Technology has made it easy to make transactions much easier. Hey, oh, do me a favor. Get Apple pay. Get Zelle get Cash app. Get any of it. I could have sent it right to him. He said he don't want to download.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm trying to get Ocho to pay.
Joe Thomas
Hey, old school, man. Look, you know, he. He thinks about the scamming and all that joke.
Ocho Cinco
Come on, now.
Shannon Sharpe
I honestly could tell you I hadn't been on the computer. I had been. I can't tell you the last time I've been on the computer.
Ocho Cinco
All right. Hey, we. Your phone. Your phone right there by you, huh?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Ocho Cinco
He got PayPal. Create an email. I can send you the money right now. It's simple.
Shannon Sharpe
I can't do it.
Ocho Cinco
D.C. yeah, he'll.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, Joe, he know how to create no email.
Ocho Cinco
Yo, he don't want no money.
Shannon Sharpe
Joe, I. I don't know how to create no email.
Ocho Cinco
Oh, come on.
Shannon Sharpe
Let me ask you a question. What makes you think I know how to create an email?
Ocho Cinco
You got a team of 72 people.
Joe Thomas
Hold on, hold on. Ask Jordan. Y' all gotta help me.
Colin Cowherd
Thank you.
Ocho Cinco
Thank you, Joe.
Shannon Sharpe
Help him out.
Joe Thomas
Help him out. Help out. Oh, y' all been hanging out for quite some time. You didn't seen him on numerous occasions. I ain't trying to get up in your business what I do.
Ocho Cinco
Hey, Joe, I don't carry no money, boy. I don't do that, boy. I carry a hundred dollars at a time. That's it. A hundred twenty bills, too. Yeah. I ain't the type that carry no cash. But, Joe, they ain't me, okay? I ain't never. Well, you got no. Don't forget nice. I know I've been moving a little different in 2025, but I'm still that same cheap. Yeah, that's me. I don't care, man.
Shannon Sharpe
Give me my money. Ocho. Raheem Cunningham. Good night, Uncle Noo. And Joe, is my mom's birthday today. Antoinette, could you wish her a happy birthday for me, please? We're big supporters. Love you all. Absolutely. Antoinette, happy birthday from your son, Raheem. He wanted to wish you a very happy birthday. Wanted to let you know just how special you are and how proud he is to be your son. So From Joe Ocho and Unc. Happy birthday, Nightcap. Happy birthday, Antoinette.
Ocho Cinco
Happy birthday, Zay.
Shannon Sharpe
Trade said. Hey, Ocho.
Ocho Cinco
What if I ran 4 1? I probably wouldn't be able to ran that route.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, you can run around. All it's gonna do is get you to that safety quicker. You better stay your ass on the outside. That's a headache. I mean, the only guy. I mean, there have been only a handful of guys that's been able to run like that. Ocho that was not afraid to go like Tyreek, to have that kind of speed. Yeah.
Joe Thomas
And.
Shannon Sharpe
And. And didn't live predominantly outside.
Ocho Cinco
Right, Right.
Shannon Sharpe
Tyreek catches a lot of in breaking routes. Normally, when you have that kind of speed, you ain't really trying to get hit. All you run is go rounds. But Tyreek turned himself into a very good receiver where he could run the route tree, and that's what makes him so dangerous. Patrick Arthur said, Unc. Ocho. Stephen A. Said, tyrese Halliburton ain't a superstar. Then neither is Anthony Edwards.
Ocho Cinco
Would you. I think Tyrese Halliburton is a star. I don't think he's a superstar. Now, I could be wrong.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. My.
Ocho Cinco
My basketball prowess is. Is nowhere near yours or maybe no, nowhere near those in the chat that enjoy the game of basketball. But he's a star. Yeah, you know, slouch. But superstar is reserved for the man.
Shannon Sharpe
But they ain't but a handful of them. I mean, we. We throw this term superstar and star. We throw all those terms around loosely, and it's kind of devalued a little bit. Ocho.
Ocho Cinco
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
Because anybody that have a, you know, a year or two, a great basketball. Oh, he's a superstar.
Ocho Cinco
No, no, man.
Shannon Sharpe
You used to have to put work in consistency. Yeah. You had to get a couple of, you know, mvp, go to the finals, you know, you had to put some work in, not just have a couple of good seasons.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah. Yeah. I don't. I don't think so.
Shannon Sharpe
How y' all. How y' all been? It's your boy from South Dakota, Patrick. We've been all right. We've been all right. Life is good. Life is good. Happy Valley farm Said Thunder walk the wolves down with a poker face. Well, they look. If you look at the way the Thunder came out tonight, it was a lot different than what they came out from game three.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
And they knew they could. They could not allow the crowd to get into it like they did in game three. And they came out meant business. They came out with the purpose of like we're going back home. 3 1. We're not going back home. 2 2. And they did what they set out to do.
Ocho Cinco
You know, if they hurry up and end this series and win this next game, won't they have even that much more time to rest?
Shannon Sharpe
Yes. Yes. All depends on do the Indiana paces take a 31 lead or do they go back to MSG tied 2 2, right?
Ocho Cinco
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
Zeke the God 96. Do you think the Knicks will make a comeback? Everything is contingent on this game.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
If they win game four, I say they make a comeback and they win in seven. If they don't, they're going home in five. Colin, is Aaron Donald really MVP for the Rams? Y' all forgetting St. Louis days? Greatest show on turf. Okay, you won't. So basically. Okay, let's go back. You got Jim Hart, the Rams, you got the Fearsome Foursome. You got Merlin Olson, who was a 14 time Pro Bowler. You got Deacon, you got Rosie Greer and you got Lamar Lundy. If you go all the way back to St. Louis, you got your heart at St. Louis. You got Dan Deardor for St. Louis. You got Otis Anderson at St. Louis. Those are the really only guys I could think of in St. Louis. Now, if you go to Phoenix. I'm trying to. No, I mean, that's the Cardinals. My bad. Rams. St. Louis Rams. Okay, let's go back to LA because they started in LA, then they moved and then they moved back. Sam Water? Yeah. Look, okay, you want Kurt Warner, Isaac Bruce, Orlando Pace.
Ocho Cinco
Marshall.
Shannon Sharpe
Marshall Falk. You got to realize it's not like Kurt spent a whole lot of time there, man.
Ocho Cinco
It wasn't that long.
Shannon Sharpe
Wasn't.
Ocho Cinco
It's Aaron Donald.
Shannon Sharpe
Aaron Donald. The dominance, the eight first team, I think eight time first team all Pro, defensive Rookie of the Year, Three time defensive player of the Year. Yeah. I think it's A.D. yeah. And it's not to take anything away from all those other guys because Kurt's in the hall of Fame, Marshall's in the hall of Fame. Isaac Bruce is in the hall of Fame. Orlando Pace is in the hall of Fame. Tory Holt's eventually going to get in the hall of Fame, but it's, it's a. It's AD Way too smooth. Red Farb or Aaron Rodgers. He saved the packers franchise, went to two sub bowls. The only player to win three MVPs in a row. He did. But Aaron has four MVPs. Aaron was a Super Bowl MVP. And Aaron Rodgers has more touchdowns with fewer interceptions. I. I don't know, bro. I mean, does. Doesn't Aaron have more touchdown for the packers than Aaron? I mean, than Brett? Because I'm looking. No, I'm. I'm thinking one more mvp. A Super bowl mvp. I think he's been to more Pro Bowls. I think they've been to the same. I think they've been the same. Same as. As far as all pros. I think Aaron might have four. Brett has three.
Joe Thomas
Aaron has.
Shannon Sharpe
For the Packers. Yes. Has 475. Yeah. So much. And look at the interceptions. Aaron Rodgers has less than 100 interceptions for the packers with 475 touchdowns. Brett got to have at least 200 for the Packers.
Ocho Cinco
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
How many interceptions does Brett have? Yeah. 105 for the Packers. So he has 440, 475 touchdowns, 105 interceptions. Brett has 286 interceptions with 442 touchdown. Yeah. Aaron Rogers is the go for the Packers.
Ocho Cinco
And just those numbers you just rambled off about. What Aaron Rogers was able to do in the past is one of the reasons why the goddamn Steelers is actually waiting.
Shannon Sharpe
You waiting. And Shawn Taylor isn't there. I mean, he probably could have been there, but he didn't play enough years. You got to realize DG played 20 years at corner.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
How many 20 year corners you think you ever go see again in your life be the mvp?
Ocho Cinco
It's not happening.
Shannon Sharpe
It's not, not happening. It's not. Big td. The one Uncle Nocho. If you guys were on the same team in your prime, who is the number one option? Look, I don't care about number. I'm gonna get mine. I'm gonna get mine. I'm gonna get mine. I'm not so sure that I was always the number one option, but I just know I led my team in receiving for six straight years.
Ocho Cinco
Dude, me too.
Shannon Sharpe
You let, you let Bingo. Six straight years?
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, sure. I led the AFC four years in a row.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, see, I ain't do that.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
I let. I let the. I led my team 7 of the 14 years. Finished one catch. I almost had 8 Kre caught one more pass than I did. I started to go back in there and catch another pass to Tie him up. Dr. Frankie Bellamy. Hey, fam. Y' all see Tom Cruise got another Mission Impossible out. Now that man be on a slide with he like a slide with Rocky and the Expendables. Who do you think is the king of film series game? Tom Cruise or Sylvester Stallone?
Ocho Cinco
Oh, that's a good one.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, you got. First of all, you got Tom Cruise, he got Top Gun and he got Mission Impossible. Sylvester sliced alone. He got the Expendables and Rockies in which he's morphed Creed into. Yeah, got Rabbi.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, that's. That's a good one. Lean more towards Tom Cruise.
Shannon Sharpe
You know, you. You like. You like. You like Stallone? You like Rocky and. And like a Rambo? Or you more Mission Impossible, Top Gun? Because it's all about what you like. See, I'm more. I'm more of a. Like, now. I love Tom. Tom Cruise and Minority Report. Right, because that was the first time you see the board, they open up.
Ocho Cinco
No, my. My favorite Tom Cruise movie is with. With Jack, but Jack Nicholson. Oh, God damn. Why am I missing this army movie?
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, A Few Good Men.
Ocho Cinco
Good man. Oh, my goodness.
Shannon Sharpe
That's the Lieutenant Cathy.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, him and Demi Moore. Classic. Classic.
Shannon Sharpe
That was. Hey, Jack did that one.
Ocho Cinco
He cut up. He was in his bag. He was in his bag. That movie.
Shannon Sharpe
Boy, you snotty prick. You have no idea how to defend the country, Kathy. All you did was weaken a nation. Sleep good at night, son. Sleep good.
Ocho Cinco
Classic.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm an officer in the United States Navy, and you're under arrest, you son of a.
Ocho Cinco
Matter of fact, did you see. Did you see Primal Fear with Edward Norton and Richard Gere? Yeah, when he had. When he played Multiple Marty. Oh, Marty. Yeah, old Marty. Hey, boy. I love. I love that movie. Boy, Edward Norton is one of my favorite.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, he had a little stretcher, then he just, like, kind of, like, disappeared.
Ocho Cinco
That's crazy how that works in Hollywood. I don't know. He was in movies back to back to back, you know?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, he was in that movie. What was that. That. That American something. What was he in? What was that movie he was in? Yeah, no, back away. No, no, no, no, no. Not that Edward Norton. No, no, no, no. I know. Richard gave and. And what you call them, the movie with American History X. That's what he was in.
Ocho Cinco
Oh, hey, that's a classic. That's.
Shannon Sharpe
That is Julia Roberts. Richard Gear was in Julia Roberts, the one they filmed at the. The Beverly. The Beverly. The Beverly Wilshire.
Ocho Cinco
Pretty Woman.
Shannon Sharpe
Pretty Woman. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ocho Cinco
Edward Norton. It seemed like Julia Roberts had a stretch where she. She was in movie, movie, movie, movie, movie, movie, movie. And Cameron Diaz, they were in movies like back to back.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah. All of a sudden, Batman. She was in. She was in the Mask.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
That was the first time I've ever seen Cameron Diaz when she was in the Mask with Jim Carrey.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah. They had a run, like a crazy run, and then they just.
Shannon Sharpe
They didn't say, we're gonna get a crazy run. We're gonna get like 10 years, 12 years, and go get up out of here.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
I think Julia Roberts, she moved to New Mexico and, you know, Cameron Diaz, she got married to Madison and. And she like. She just. I think she was. She's about to be in a new movie, but she like, hey.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, that's dope.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I like.
Joe Thomas
I like. I like.
Shannon Sharpe
Like I said, I like Tom Cruise and Minority Report. That movie that hit. Last movie he did with a Nicole Kidman.
Ocho Cinco
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
The Stanley Kubrick. Boy, that baby was good and terrible. Boy. Eyes Wide Shut. And I should have went. I should have kept my eyes shut, too.
Ocho Cinco
It was that bad.
Shannon Sharpe
Boy, that thing was terrible. Boy. Good thing they didn't have Rotten Tomatoes around. I already know what they got for that. That was terrible. Anybody to say the Eyes Wide Shut was good? They lied. They are lying.
Ocho Cinco
I see. That good.
Shannon Sharpe
You ain't good. Damn, boy, that thing was terrible. As a matter of fact, I think that might have been Stanley Kubrick's. That's what I'm saying. I mean, she just came back and did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But she. She had to set some time off. Oh, yeah. But like I said, Ocho, I used to be a big movie guy. I'm going to see 55, 60 movies a year. People don't realize they at least come out with like 500 movies a year. But I see the. Really, you know, I go so. To another movie that I didn't like. I didn't understand it, and I saw it three times, and I still don't understand that Bull Job, the English Patient. And it racked up all those awards.
Colin Cowherd
Awards.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
I need somebody. I need whoever directed that or started. Y' all need to come tell me what that movie was about, because I still ain't figured it out. Oh, yeah. Colin said, gotta do another one. Just because y' all forgetting. Forgot about Ed.
Ocho Cinco
Eric Dickinson. God damn it.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Ocho Cinco
But even. Even still, Aaron Donald dominated for so many years, though.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Y' all gotta realize Ed has had a short career there. They traded Ed?
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Thanksgiving, they traded to the. The Colts. 83, 84, 85, 86. I think they traded Ed in like 87 or 88. What year they trade Ed? I think Ed got traded in. He might have been 80s, might have been 87. It was either 87 or 88.
Joe Thomas
Because.
Shannon Sharpe
He came and ran wild over the Broncos. I think.
Ocho Cinco
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
I. I remember that. I remember that game because I was. I was in college. Ocho.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah. Eddie went crazy, huh?
Shannon Sharpe
Did.
Ocho Cinco
Hey, he had one of the sweetest running styles upright.
Shannon Sharpe
DT said, Ocho on dates while on 5200 is crazy work. It's die right? Diabolical.
Ocho Cinco
What day, what date I went on.
Shannon Sharpe
Don't worry about it.
Ocho Cinco
I ain't gonna date. And matter of fact. Oh, I went. I went on the outing. There's a difference. Now a date. Now, outing is two different things.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm out of $5,900.
Ocho Cinco
No, I'm saying she. She paid. She paid for the date. It's good to have someone want to treat you for a change. So that's all you had?
Shannon Sharpe
Let me keep.
Ocho Cinco
Hey, cheating man.
Shannon Sharpe
Slick James said no one brought trash bags or trash cans. Who's cleaning up? Well, since we ain't got no grill, I'm taking my ish back home. Hey, Slick James, bro, ain't nobody brought not one grill. Ain't nobody brought no charcoal. Hey, so I'm just gonna take my stuff back home, man. Hey, Denny said oo we in 2025. You should know how to spell.
Ocho Cinco
Now, what you're not gonna do is see and act like you know how to spell them goddamn words that we had tonight.
Shannon Sharpe
Don't do that.
Ocho Cinco
People be killing me, acting like they some. Some wizards when it comes to spelling. They spell it so you couldn't spell dick. Wait, I spelled dyslexia, right?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Dab Smith said Pacers had had favor in their run with starters getting injury for the Cavs and Bucks. Now they're going to see a team that's similar to what they do. Better. If N. Smith gets in foul trouble, who's guarding Shay? OKC and four.
Ocho Cinco
Four.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Ocho Cinco
They gonna sweep them.
Shannon Sharpe
That's what forward me, man.
Ocho Cinco
He tripping, man. Paces in five.
Joe Thomas
Man, this man here. I'm best bet. You giving away money.
Shannon Sharpe
Who you? Well, we go. We gonna pick the series. We're off tomorrow, but we're gonna pick the series on on Wednesday.
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I feel like I have to give.
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Jenny Garth
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Ocho Cinco
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Shannon Sharpe
Kemper Norwood Jr. Said, My question is, if KD came to Dallas, who would the Mavs give up? Najee Marshall for KD and a 2026 and 2027 first round pick. Joe, what you thinking?
Joe Thomas
Man, they want to give up more than that.
Shannon Sharpe
I agree. But here's the thing. Katie's gonna be 37 and he has an injury history, so he's not gonna command. And plus.
Joe Thomas
Man, if y' all think Phoenix gonna give up Katie just for Marsh the Nazi Marshall and a pick, they not doing that. They gonna, they gonna want more than that, Uncle Ocho.
Shannon Sharpe
I believe, I believe they want two first rounders in a player because if.
Joe Thomas
Because you get kd, that automatically, that automatically puts you at the top. Meaning, like your expectations change.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, they changed. But that don't mean you're gonna be at the top, because we saw that with Brooklyn and we saw that with Phoenix, and Phoenix didn't make the playoff this year and they got swept last year.
Joe Thomas
Man, they not get. They, they gonna Phoenix gonna want more than that back.
Shannon Sharpe
I, I, I, I, I believe so too. But what, what, what do they have to give up? They're not giving up that number one overall pick for Katie.
Joe Thomas
Hold on. So y' all think they gonna give up Katie and you're gonna keep your number one pick?
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, the number one. Hold on, Joe, you actually think they're gonna give up the number one overall pick for kd?
Joe Thomas
I actually, I actually don't think they giving up the number one pick. But if you're gonna Get KD and I'm Phoenix, man. I'm gonna need a little more than that. I'm sorry.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. How many picks they got? They gotta pick from that. They gotta pick from the Lakers. What pick is that?
Joe Thomas
Got to give me one of them Bigs you got over there, Lively or Gaffer. You got to give me one of them. Give me one of them.
Shannon Sharpe
And I'm probably gonna want a Max Christie.
Joe Thomas
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
And Nigel Marshall.
Joe Thomas
Yeah, yeah. You're gonna need about four, five dudes to get up in there, man. What?
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, they don't got the lakers pick until 2029, which might be worth something. Mike. What's up, Uncle Noo? Did the trade for Mikhail Bridges giving up five first round picks here of the Knicks and getting Giannis or Kevin Durant? Yes, yes, it absolutely did.
Joe Thomas
They only talking about that right now though, because the Knicks.
Shannon Sharpe
Because had you gone to the NBA Finals, you wouldn't have cared about giving up.
Joe Thomas
Hey, listen, that's why it only can be one winner. So it's everybody else gonna be dissatisfied. That's just part.
Shannon Sharpe
Yep. Collin said. How do y' all think the Lions are going to do this year now that they lost our center? Like we lost our coordinators and now our center rag now was a four time Pro Bowler. He's the first round pick on one of Brad Holmes selections. He was, he was, he was very good. They've lost a lot. They lost a lot. They're still a very talented team. They're going to get a lot of these guys back on defense. Ocho that was injured last year, they're going to get Hutch back, they're going to get one of the linebackers to get some of those D linemen back. But you know, you lose both of your coordinators, you lose your center, the middle of the line, but you still talented. You got Almond Radio, you got Laporta, you got Jameson, you got Montgomery, you got Gibbs. They still, they, they, they still got a lot. But I think, you know, the court, the coordinators, I think the coordinator is going to hurt.
Ocho Cinco
You think so? Yeah, I think, I think they have so much talent around them offensively and defensively, I think they're going to be fine. Regardless of who's calling the plays, it's still the same players and obviously those same players are still good at their respective crafts and positions. So I think they're gonna be all right regardless who's calling the plays.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. Casey Taylor says start bench cut. Santana Moss, Marcus Colston, Victor Cruz.
Joe Thomas
Also.
Shannon Sharpe
He wants me to share my 84 chain story. Want to see Joe's story? Like, so Joe has. Especially spending time in Atlanta. All right. Oo. Santana Malls. Marcus Coulston. Victor Cruz.
Ocho Cinco
Damn.
Joe Thomas
That'S a good one. No, boy.
Ocho Cinco
Oh, you know what? I'm going with home team. I'm starting. I'm starting Santana. I'm starting Tana.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Ocho Cinco
I'm a bench. Oh, that's hard. I'm a. I'm a bench. Marcus Colston. I mean, for those. You have watched him play with Drew Brees and the numbers he put up.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, Colston. Oh, he had. Hey, he had a stretch there. He was.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, yeah, he had a hell of a stretch. And I. I love Victor Cruz, man, but it was. It was just a little bit too short.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, well, the 84 chain was. My brother gave it to me. I had a break in back in May of 2023, and they stole it, and I have yet to replace it. I wore it all. I wore my chain during. During the actual game, Ocho. Yeah, the actual game. I wore that chain. And I remember, as a matter of fact, I had in a preseason game, the only time it's ever been broke, and I was blocking Lee Woodall in a preseason game. And, you know, he tried to. Tried to snatch me, man. It broke. I felt it pop. Man, I let him go so quick. Hey, get him. Yeah. Oh, yo, I'm looking. I. I'm. Man, I'm looking down there. Hey. And then we turn and go to the other end. Man, they got people scouring on their hands and knees on the field, trying to find was down. It was down in my football. I just knew somebody had done picked it up. Joe, what's your favorite? What's your story spending time in Atlanta with the Hawks?
Joe Thomas
Man, I got so many in Ocho. I don't know. I could tell y' all when I first got here, you know, coming from Phoenix, we had won 62 games. And getting here to Atlanta, prior to me coming the year before, I think they had won, like, 13 games. So I ain't gonna. I ain't gonna tell y' all no lie, man. It was rough them first couple years. Uncle Ocho, I'm being honest, man. It's probably about, like, two, 300 people in the stands. It was bad.
Shannon Sharpe
Damn bad.
Joe Thomas
It was bad. But look, every year. Every year we got better. We start, you know, we got better as a team. So therefore, you know, the fans started to come out, and by year three, it was booming in there.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah.
Joe Thomas
First couple years, man, listen, I ain't Want to leave my house. It was so bad we were getting out here. Lord, I ain't. I ain't going nowhere. Hey, when you lose it, man, it's hard. It's hard.
Shannon Sharpe
It's hard to get out the house. It absolutely is as a professional athlete.
Joe Thomas
When you lose it like that, man. Cause listen, we started off my first year here, man. We started off 3 and 27, man.
Shannon Sharpe
Damn. Damn.
Joe Thomas
We were getting drugged. I'm talking about. Man, listen, you talking about. I'm talking about didn't want to leave the house. Yeah, man, it was bad with. Yo, sir.
Shannon Sharpe
Kate said, my guys. When y' all playing, who was the one player that made you say, man, that boy cold when watching on the sidelines on film, bro, I was in the league. I was in the league. I would stand across the field and watch Barry on Thanksgiving. You know what the lines. How the Lions play on Thanksgiving. Now, imagine Barry on that turf on Thanksgiving. Lines might get beat all the time, but they gonna play their ass off on Thanksgiving, man. Hell, I played on the sideline. Watch Jerry Saw Moss.
Joe Thomas
Hey, Ocho, I played against Vince Carter that first. When he was in Toronto for that first wing. It wasn't no game planning for him, man. Vince Carter. It wasn't no man, listen, it wasn't no game. Like, you know how you had game plans who were like, you game plan for Reggie Miller, Ray Allen, but, like, for Vince. Cause he shot so many unorthodox shots, and he was so athletic. It was like everything he done, I was like, wow. Like, as a rookie, watching him, I think he probably about four or five years in the league, but he was already half man, half amazing. It was something to see.
Shannon Sharpe
I watched. I watched some highlights, man. That joke was jumping up, man. That joker head above the rim.
Joe Thomas
Unreal, man. Unreal. It was unreal. It was unreal.
Shannon Sharpe
J83 said, Joe, what's the most points you scored at Central?
Joe Thomas
The most points I scored at Central, probably like 35, 36. I didn't score a lot. We had an awesome team, Uncle Ocho. We were ranked nationally. And that was. That's a public school. You know, the Little Rock Central. Y' all can look us up on hbo, man. It's a special about my high school. Yeah, we something to be talking about. You hear me? But yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Did y' all win the state, Joe?
Joe Thomas
Yeah, we won state. We should have won it every year. You know, it was just. When I was in high school, it was 10th, 11th, 12th, 9th grade, one high school. So it was 10th, 11th and 12th we made it to the championship game our 10th grade year. We lost in like the semis in my junior year and my senior year. It wasn't even close. We blew everybody out. Championship game was a blowout.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, do Jerry Jones the goat said, please give some love to Nigeria. Canada from Texas Tech, she has led the softball team to the World Series. She pitched nearly 400 straight pitches for a team and she leads the team in home run. Actually, she's the one that stopped Oklahoma's Dinos. Oklahoma had won five straight national championship game and she a. Remember, she was at Stanford. And it's reported that she got a million dollar nil deal to go to Texas Tech. Now, I don't know if she's a senior, she might go get 2 million. They might need to bump that up. But she was sensational on the mound today. And everybody knows those big guns, those big bats that the Oklahoma can trot out there, but she was sensational today. I thought Oklahoma had them because they bottom of the seventh, two run home, a tie the game. But then old girl come back, bottom, boom. But yep, I think Nigerie Kennedy, she was. She was great. She was great. And that's what you pay a million dollars for, Ocho, man. Yeah, look, Chad, we know. Oo Chad. Want us to talk about. AB Was arrested for firing shots at people.
Ryan Seacrest
Correct.
Shannon Sharpe
In. In the ceiling of his. Oh, he was outside firing shots in the air.
Ocho Cinco
What just happened? I was on the plane.
Shannon Sharpe
Just now. J Dub from Akron, congrats on your son's graduation. He's talking to you, Ocho. He smashed you in spello cinco. He would.
Ocho Cinco
Nah, you won't beat me in spello cinco. Thank.
Shannon Sharpe
He said your son would beat you.
Ocho Cinco
I went to Harvard, boy. I went to Harvard. My son graduated from Arizona State. That let you know who the smarter, smarter person is. And obviously, I mean, I see he.
Shannon Sharpe
Get the smarts with his mom. They say. Well, that's what they say. They say smarts, kids, smarts come from the mother's side.
Ocho Cinco
Hey, this mama did a hell of a job, man. All those.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I can't. I can't say I. I disagree with that.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, all those. I have kids. Hey, hey, let me tell you something, Uncle Joe. Joe, I didn't do. I didn't do things the traditional way, right? You know, I didn't do it the traditional way. But one thing about God, man, he don't make no mistakes. And boy, those I have kids from, they did one hell of a effing job with the kids, boy. Yeah, man, like golly, man, good job.
Shannon Sharpe
I ain't do bad. Me too.
Ocho Cinco
I didn't win the graduation today, Joe, right? Yeah, I done flew to Houston. I had to make sure I got to Houston in time so I could do nightcap. And my daughter graduated from Prairie View a M. In the morning.
Joe Thomas
My son graduated on Monday, bro. He graduated from high school. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
You only got one kid?
Joe Thomas
My son 18. My daughter is 11 and I got a three year old little boy.
Ocho Cinco
Joe, you got to keep.
Joe Thomas
Seven years apart. But that wasn't my doing, Uncle Ocho.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, you gotta. You gotta get back in there, Joe.
Joe Thomas
Get back in where?
Ocho Cinco
Well, you can't get on all numbers. That's bad luck.
Joe Thomas
I got two boys, one girl. I'm cool, man. Hey, hey, hey, hey.
Ocho Cinco
Chop suey, you done?
Joe Thomas
I'm not having no more kids, Ocho. What's wrong with you?
Ocho Cinco
Hey, you tripping, man.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Oh, Ocho, man, stop that.
Ocho Cinco
He being a quitter.
Joe Thomas
A quitter or what about you ain't.
Ocho Cinco
Having no more kid? Don't be a quitter. First thing we learned in kindergarten, Joe.
Shannon Sharpe
Say I ain't doing number practicing now. I ain't trying to play no game. I'm just practicing.
Ocho Cinco
Hey, hey, hey.
Joe Thomas
Ojo kids expensive time like.
Ocho Cinco
Oh, no, no, kids are expensive. What you choose to buy is.
Shannon Sharpe
No, today's time. It's hard to you not raising no kids like you and I got raised, Ocho, like Joe got raised. You not doing that. My grandpa used to always tell us, he say, boy, the worst kind of poor you could be is child poor.
Ocho Cinco
Well, I don't. I'm going to have twins. Yeah, I'm gonna add twin. I'm done. I'm done.
Joe Thomas
That's gonna put you at what.
Ocho Cinco
10, right? At 10 and I'm done.
Ryan Seacrest
No, I'm done.
Shannon Sharpe
I want. Only thing I want, twins. They better. They better be. They better be cars or bank accounts. Them the only twins I want.
Ocho Cinco
Hey, I'm trying. Hey, hey, bro, it's so funny. I'm trying not to laugh, right? You know, I went, you know, I had my work done, right? I was cutting, I was cutting my hair. You know, the, the oil, Joe, you know the oil they give you to put on the clippers? Yeah, I dumb ass forgetting I had work done. I went and tried to bite it and twist it off. My whole two then popped off, right? So I'm trying, I'm trying to be careful. I'm hoping. I was hoping while we're doing the show. I hope it fell out.
Joe Thomas
Did you put something on it or you just stuck it.
Ocho Cinco
It's just sitting there. It's just sitting. I'm hoping to fight. I thought. I thought.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't buy nothing. I don't buy nothing with these.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, listen. Hey, I forgot. I forgot it. It dawned on me. Until I'm sitting there biting the.
Shannon Sharpe
No.
Ocho Cinco
Because the top off, man, the damn tooth and went flow.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey. Oh, hey. I don't bite. No. With the front of my teeth, I bet everything.
Ocho Cinco
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Joe Thomas
Hey.
Shannon Sharpe
So if I look straight on you, but, hey, on the side, look like a Jack o' lantern.
Ocho Cinco
In Houston. But tomorrow, Sunday, everything closed, so I gotta.
Shannon Sharpe
Tomorrow's Saturday, bro.
Joe Thomas
Oh, yeah. He don't know where he at.
Ocho Cinco
Okay, so the dentist open tomorrow.
Shannon Sharpe
Then you have to pay extra to get him to come in. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ocho Cinco
I gotta get it. I gotta get it. Get it bonded, man.
Shannon Sharpe
That probably cost you about 2,000, 3,000.
Joe Thomas
He got it.
Shannon Sharpe
He got it.
Ocho Cinco
Got what you. I just need to get it bonded back. That's about $80, man. Come on.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, you must be going to CVS.
Joe Thomas
Or Walgreens, man, please.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. Oh, so. So you'll pay that man 2000, $3000, put your tool back in. But you won't pay.
Ocho Cinco
It's not gonna cost that much. Y' all just. Y' all creating a number.
Shannon Sharpe
I did. No, I'm telling you. Oh, choice. Go for what it cost to put back in. I'm telling you.
Ocho Cinco
No, that's. That's too much.
Shannon Sharpe
It'll probably cost you a thousand. First of all, that's an emergency. So you got him coming in because most dentist offices aren't open on Saturday. Now, you got to call and hope somebody knows.
Ocho Cinco
Dentist offices are open on Saturday. They just close a little earlier than normal.
Shannon Sharpe
No, they're not open on Saturdays.
Ocho Cinco
Anybody in the chat. Y' all know a dentist office I can go to, man, and make sure my tooth don't fall out, man, where you at, bro?
Joe Thomas
What you say? You in Houston?
Ocho Cinco
I mean, I'm literally in Houston. Right downtown. I mean, I'm in a club right now, Joe. I swear to God. I'm in the club. I'm just in the back office. It's called.
Joe Thomas
It's cracking. It's cracking. It's like that.
Ocho Cinco
Oh, it's crowded.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, I just told you, don't mention Houston. I just told you.
Ocho Cinco
I didn't say Houston.
Shannon Sharpe
You did say Houston.
Ocho Cinco
No, I was talking about Allen Houston, the basketball player.
Shannon Sharpe
Kimberly Beetle said Ugg and Ocho. Where the after party at up to Charlotte show. Play Tonka spades for Ocho Cartiers or some shade vsop. Didn't want to mess up granny's name.
Joe Thomas
Somebody calling y' all out, man. Right?
Ocho Cinco
Ain't calling. Calling me out because you. You definitely. We could play for whatever. Not these Cartiers because, you know, I need them, but we could. We put some money on it, make it light on yourself now.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know. I got. I gotta see you play a couple of times for you. Did I bring you on?
Joe Thomas
Hey, look like he might be reneging some more.
Ocho Cinco
Listen, spades is what I do now. I don't play no. I don't play no games. There's one. There's one thing about it I do. There's a lot of things in life I play with. It's spades ain't one of them.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know, Joe. I have to. I might need to see you play. I might need to see you play a couple of hands.
Ocho Cinco
I got you.
Shannon Sharpe
And see how. And see how well you could read. How well you can, because you need to be able to read your partner. If your partner.
Ocho Cinco
Not only can I read my partner, I already know what's gonna happen. Listen, when I go to Vegas, I know how to read cars. They don't even let me in the MGM no more. I can't even go to no casinos because I know how to read cars. I learned to beat the machine. I learned to beat.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, first of all, it's not counting. It's not called reading cards. It's called counting. So don't read them.
Ocho Cinco
Say it's all the same thing. Counter maritime. I can't even go to Vegas no more. I'm banned.
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Shannon Sharpe
David D. Cruz said, ocho Joe, if your barber messes up your cut, do you say something or did you not just never go back?
Joe Thomas
I ain't gonna lie. It's been time boy barber to mess me up. Yeah, I ain't going back for real. Like, if I'm on the road, let's say. Like when I was playing and we'd be on the road and I needed a cute. And I asked somebody, hey, man, send me somebody to, you know, who can cut. And he couldn't cut me up. And. And it was horrible. Yeah. I may not say nothing to him, but I'm gonna tell his man somebody, man, you sent this dude over here, man.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, hey, Joe. As a matter of fact, I know the dude that cut your hair. He from Little Rock. He from Little Rock.
Joe Thomas
He at Amari.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Little short dude. Yeah, Yeah. I call him Peebo Bryson.
Joe Thomas
Who you talking about? We might be talking about two different people.
Shannon Sharpe
There's a little dude even off the hook. He from. He your homeboy. He said, man, Joe, my homeboy?
Joe Thomas
Yeah. What's his name? Dre or Amari?
Shannon Sharpe
I don't even know his name.
Joe Thomas
Both of them from Little Rock, and they both live. They both out here. And Amari cut my head now. He been cutting my hair for about two years now.
Shannon Sharpe
Dope, Dope. I gotta. I gotta find out from Joe what's. What's a peebo real name, man? You know, you call somebody a nickname so long ago, you don't even really know.
Ocho Cinco
Yep.
Shannon Sharpe
So, hey, man, you know such and such. I said now, because when people ask me, hey, Sharp, you remember such and such, I say, from Savannah State. I said, you have a nickname? Yeah, they call himself. Yeah, I know exactly who you're talking about. Or a former teammate. You don't call somebody a nickname for 25, 30 years, man. Don't ask me his real name. Because I don't know it. No, I. I explained. Look, I've only had a handful of barbers, especially, like, Joe, who's my barber in Atlanta. He's been cutting my hair since 94. So he's been cutting my hair 30 years. Nobody else has ever cut my hair in Atlanta except him. Growing up, a guy there, a guy named Mr. Mr. Reverend Green, and a dude named Bobby Lee Wilkins cut my hair. Then when I couldn't find them, Luther Maynard cut my hair. And then I went to college. You know, you go to college, you find out one of your teammates can cut them. 2.2$2ft of haircuts come in handy.
Joe Thomas
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
So, dude named Coop, and then I had a homeboy named Mud.
Joe Thomas
Yeah, I got. I got a young cat out here named Amari. He from Little Rock, but when I met him, I didn't know he's from Little Rock. I just seen his work on ig, and I said, in Atlanta, and I just hit him up, and I went and got a cut. And then he started telling me he went to Parkview High School. That's in Little Rock, the same high school my mom went to.
Colin Cowherd
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
So the dude that cut you, is he sure?
Joe Thomas
This dude I'm talking about ain't short, but the dude named Dre who used to cut my hair, he a little shorter than Amari, but yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, that's. That's probably drake.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Dr. Frank L. Bellamy said, as my grandma used to say, lord, if this ain't the best podcast. I say, glory. Great show, fam. Doc, thank you so much. Thank you for your support. Joe, you don't know Dr. Frankie L. Bellarmine, but she probably was one of our first five subscribers, really. She's been. She came to our first. Our very first road show that was in Vegas. She was there. The Atlanta show, she was there. The New Orleans show. She was there. She's probably going to be at the Charlotte show also. I mean, she's been. I mean, our family, our supporters at Nightcap, they come. So, Doc, and. And she found that my brother was gonna be playing. I think it's at Myrtle Beach. And she always goes down now and said, man, look here, I got a. One of our listeners on Club Nightcap. Her name is Dr. Frankie Abellam. She gonna come up, say what's up? And sure enough, he's. She said, she came up. Greedy Grimace said, two picks. Ice picks, quick picks.
Ocho Cinco
I like it.
Shannon Sharpe
Big Mike said, go, New York, Ocho, talk your talk.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, listen, I'm a Heat fan. I'M a Heat fan, and I'm. I was only going for the Knicks to piss off my baby. I'm sure she's watching. She's emotionally unstable right now. She was crying because obviously Boston went home. I've never seen someone love a team that much. You know where you invested that much time and as much motion into a team crying.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Ocho Cinco
What are you doing, Shannon?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. If I lose, I might cry. I ain't crying. Somebody else lose.
Ocho Cinco
I hope you're okay, mama. Go, Nicks.
Shannon Sharpe
Pat Dub said. I hope fans are understanding better how this second apron works. Celtics and the warriors are perfect example of how it affects championship windows. Oh, they. They did it so. Because they didn't want teams to be, like, to be able to do what the warriors did by getting KD and have KD and have Steph and have Clay and have Draymond. They don't want that. They don't want the big. The big three Miami Heat again. They don't want. You could do it, but you're gonna be paying $200 million in luxury tax. And then you get up in that second apron and become a repeater. Okay.
Joe Thomas
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Let us laugh. Ocho ISO, in your opinion, which NBA team had the worst finals loss?
Joe Thomas
The worst finals loss?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Joe Thomas
Probably would be somebody who got swept, Right.
Ocho Cinco
That was probably supposed to win the series and got swept.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Joe Thomas
Worst finals loss.
Shannon Sharpe
The Lakers have to be up there when they got beat by Detroit.
Joe Thomas
It might be. It might be when Houston.
Shannon Sharpe
Might be the Heat when they got beat by.
Joe Thomas
Might be Houston when they beat Orlando with Penny and Shaq.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, but Laijua was on a different level.
Joe Thomas
Shaq was on a different level, too.
Shannon Sharpe
Shaq was.
Joe Thomas
I know he was young, but Unc, he was still dominating the league. They couldn't do nothing with him. It's just not only was Elijah Warren great, but the guys around him played.
Shannon Sharpe
Candace, those seven threes that one game. But I think. But think about it. They had Shaq and Kobe and they got gentlemen sweep by Detroit.
Ocho Cinco
He was on Detroit team during that time. Rasheed Wallace, Rip Hamilton.
Shannon Sharpe
Rasheed Big Ben Wallace, Chauncey Rip Hamilton and Tayshawn.
Ocho Cinco
Tayshaun Prince.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, I think they had. I think McDyess came off the bench. Didn't they have McNice?
Joe Thomas
He might have came off the bench then. But you think. I don't think that. I don't think that's worse than the.
Shannon Sharpe
The Houston boy. Look here. Before McNice messed that knee up, boy. When he was in Denver, I was in Denver. When he was there.
Joe Thomas
Yeah. What, man? Jump out the gym, boy, at 16.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yes. Oh, yes. McNice was like, jump out the gym.
Ocho Cinco
Like Shannon Brown.
Shannon Sharpe
Jump out the gym at 16, boy. He was 6. He was 6, 8.
Joe Thomas
I played with McDyess in Phoenix. Obviously it was later in his career, but, yeah, man, he played at Alabama, so I'm an SEC guy, so I always kept up with them dudes, man.
Shannon Sharpe
Dude, all them guys from Alabama can jump. Robert Orr. People don't realize Robert Orr used to play above the rim before he messed his backup and just started shooting threes. But when he first got. When he first got to the league.
Ocho Cinco
Hey, what?
Shannon Sharpe
Jason Richardson, Michigan State.
Ocho Cinco
Jump, too. He was another. He was.
Shannon Sharpe
His son can jump, too.
Joe Thomas
Oh, his son.
Shannon Sharpe
His son. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But McDist, Antonio McDyce was real nice. I was in Denver when he got there. All them guys, Mutombo, Jalen rose, Rodney Rogers, McNice. Mellow, all them. Deshaun Allen. Who do you think is the strictest coach in the NBA back in the day? Chuck Daly, Pat Riley or Casey Jones? I mean.
Ocho Cinco
Well, is there somebody more strict than Pat?
Joe Thomas
Yeah, I was.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't either.
Joe Thomas
Pat. Pat run a tight ship over there, man. I think he been doing that since. Since the days he coached with the. What, the Knicks and the Lakers?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah. Imagine, Magic said he was. He was like that when Magic got him. So. And then, you know, he went to the. He went to the Knicks and what they think about. They had Mason, Oakland, they had Charles Oak, they had Xavier McDaniel, Charles Smith, big Pat.
Joe Thomas
He coached all they had. A team full of power. Forward.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, come to the. Hey, that's what they say. Come to the bait if you want to. You come the first time, you ain't coming back. I bet you they put you on.
Joe Thomas
That flow for sure.
Shannon Sharpe
Smacks at halftime. Said, hey, Joe, Ocho. Start, bench, cut. Luca.
Joe Thomas
Ant. Man.
Ocho Cinco
Oh, man, if y' all do this one more time.
Joe Thomas
I'm going with nsga.
Ocho Cinco
Oh, so you cut Luca.
Joe Thomas
I said. I said what I said, Ocho, I don't know what else you want from me. I said what I said, but I.
Shannon Sharpe
Want to know who you starting on what you said.
Joe Thomas
You said I gotta start. One bench.
Ocho Cinco
One start. Cut, bench.
Joe Thomas
I'm gonna end sga.
Shannon Sharpe
You gonna start sga?
Ocho Cinco
Hey, Joe, they got me last night. They gave me Tio, Randy Moss and damn, Calvin Johnson.
Joe Thomas
Come on, man. Come right now. Yeah, man, leave nan one of them all, huh?
Shannon Sharpe
You gotta cut somebody.
Joe Thomas
Come on.
Ocho Cinco
I said.
Shannon Sharpe
You Might.
Joe Thomas
Who you going with? Ojo.
Ocho Cinco
Shoot.
Shannon Sharpe
I.
Ocho Cinco
Listen, I. I'm. I love the personality of. Of Ant man, and you can't go wrong. It's a toss up between and S. So I'm starting. I'm starting ant. I'm benching sga, and I'm cutting Luca.
Joe Thomas
What you doing?
Shannon Sharpe
You.
Joe Thomas
You got to be careful on this one.
Shannon Sharpe
I got the next one. I got the next question. We got another start, bench, cut.
Joe Thomas
What's the next one.
Shannon Sharpe
Aaron asked? Start, bench, cut. Chase. Oo, AJ.
Ocho Cinco
Oh, that's easy. I got that Joe Live.
Shannon Sharpe
Aj. I'm sorry, bro. I'm sorry.
Ocho Cinco
I'm sorry. I'm starting chase. Benching. Benching A.J. i'm cutting me.
Shannon Sharpe
Nah, I'm gonna start Chase. Oh, I'm sorry, Ocho. If some. If Chase need a bro, need a breather, I send you in. Other than that. Hey, aj I'm sorry, aj. I gotta. I gotta go with my dog, Ocho. He gotta get him in the game.
Ocho Cinco
Nah, that. You know. You know, it's funny when whenever it come to any kind of rankings, boy put everybody before me. I don't. I don't.
Joe Thomas
I don't.
Ocho Cinco
I don't be caring.
Shannon Sharpe
Nah, they gotta be. I gotta really think they go before me before I put them before me. I ain't just putting somebody there just to be humble. That ain't happening. Hey, Sanjay. 17 said oo, Uncle Noo. You're an NFL general manager. Who's your first pick, dead or alive?
Ocho Cinco
First pick, start a franchise with, obviously, right?
Shannon Sharpe
Yep. I'm taking Brady.
Ocho Cinco
You can't go wrong at the quarterback position.
Shannon Sharpe
If you give me an offensive play, I'm taking Tom Brady. You give me a defensive play, I'm taking lt.
Ocho Cinco
I was gonna say. I was gonna say lt.
Shannon Sharpe
Defensive.
Ocho Cinco
Y' all gonna say lt. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Quarter. I'm starting with. I got. If you start with any other positional offense, you. You crazy. I'm taking the quarterback. I'm taking Tom. Then defensive player. I'm taking lt. Give me.
Ocho Cinco
Give me. I'm. Give me. Give me Joe Montana.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Ocho Cinco
And give me lt. On the other side.
Shannon Sharpe
Who you start. Who you start your franchise with? Joe.
Ocho Cinco
You heard what he said? Joe say he's starting a franchise with Ocho.
Joe Thomas
I'm probably. I'm probably gonna go with. I'm probably go with my homes. Okay. On. Definitely. I don't know. I say. I say Ray. I say Ray Lua.
Ryan Seacrest
Good one.
Ocho Cinco
After. You saw what I did to Ray. You gonna pick Ray?
Joe Thomas
Well, I seen Ray smack you Come across that middle.
Ocho Cinco
That's one play. What about the other hunted plays? I smacked him.
Shannon Sharpe
And then you ran into him in the end zone and knocked him out.
Ocho Cinco
That's one time.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, did he. No, he hit. Oh, he hit him coming across the middle and knocked his helmet off.
Ocho Cinco
You saw? I got up, finna beat his ass, right?
Joe Thomas
What happened? What happened?
Ocho Cinco
Hey, What? Aaron Reed had to hold me back.
Joe Thomas
Oh, okay.
Ocho Cinco
Hey, I'm about to sleep, Ray ass boy. I got hit. Hey, I jumped for. I jumped for the ball, man. He hit me up underneath my chair. My helmet went flying. Hey, I swear for God, Joe, before I hit the ground, man, I was getting up. I was trying to get up before.
Shannon Sharpe
I. I thought your head was in the helmet.
Ocho Cinco
Ray was finna get his hand and. Let me tell you. Let me tell you about the story, Joe.
Joe Thomas
Go ahead.
Ocho Cinco
Where it stopped. So I waited for Ray outside the locker room, and I think he went out the back door because I. We. We gonna have to square up. Yeah, like how you hit me like that. So I went to the team bus and was banging on the, you know, banging on the door. But he ain't never come outside. Yeah. Yeah. You know. You know, they call. Hey, they called me Hella Hands, right? Yeah, yeah, they call me Hella Hands.
Joe Thomas
I ain't know that.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, that's why Rain want to fight sometimes. Like, if I fight somebody, it's like it feel like you fighting two people. Like, that's. That's why they call me Hella Hands.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, they call you Hella Leg. Cause you gonna run.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah. I mean, if. If you call her out. Yeah, I'm run. That's about the only time.
Shannon Sharpe
Kimber Norwood Jr ask. My question is, what are your top four old school cars? Oh, a 70 Chevelle, 456 cow induction LS6. 1969 Camaro. I would say 1970 or 71 Cuda. And then just for good measures, I take the 250 GTO. But that ain't really. That ain't really the old. That ain't really no old school. And I ain't really trying to spend, you know, 25, 30, $40 million for a car. So I go, another old school. I'll go. I'll take a. I take a 4, 4, 2 cut. Or I'll take a Cutlass.
Ocho Cinco
Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Or I'll take. I'll take a gto. God Takeover or a Ram Air. So first one, I. I want that. I want that. That Chevelle. Yeah.
Ocho Cinco
Well, nice.
Shannon Sharpe
Gotta have that Chevelle that's the first. That's the first chevelle cow induction 457.
Joe Thomas
I got a 71 chevelle, black and gray, and I got a 72 impala.
Ocho Cinco
Drop big body Chevy.
Joe Thomas
Huh?
Ocho Cinco
A convertible.
Shannon Sharpe
72.
Joe Thomas
Yeah.
Ocho Cinco
You want to sell it?
Joe Thomas
Do I want to sell it? You want one? You looking for one?
Ocho Cinco
I've been looking for a dunk for the longest for a decent fight.
Shannon Sharpe
You had all them dogs and you got rid of them all.
Ocho Cinco
My old. All my Z bought them off me. They now they in Miami. It ain't even about, like, for me. I. I did like six Chevys when I was. So me and my homeboys had something. When I move, know we all move as one. I ain't want nobody, but it's all about racing and going fast now. I just.
Shannon Sharpe
I just.
Ocho Cinco
I'm about looking good.
Joe Thomas
You want to enjoy.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't want to go fast.
Ocho Cinco
Everybody. Everybody turn all the donks in Miami into race cars. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
You had a box. You got a box Chevy.
Ocho Cinco
I ain't like the box Chevy.
Shannon Sharpe
I hate.
Ocho Cinco
I hate the box Chevy. I've always hated it.
Shannon Sharpe
No, I ain't no box. I ain't no. No box Chevy guy either. I'm gonna give me an old school call.
Joe Thomas
Ltd. Y' all know what the LTD is? I had. I had one in my high school. Real. Hey, look, I had one in high school. Boy, we had to stop. Me and the homies had to stop every 5, 10 minutes just to put some oil in it. I'm talking.
Shannon Sharpe
You took. I'm about to say that you had to stop everything.
Joe Thomas
Oh, one thing about them old car. Boy, that's some work. You gotta do some work with them old cars, boy, because you got to.
Shannon Sharpe
Realize them cars 50 years old, they ain't meant to be driven on the rig. So. Hey, boy. Hey, pull that car side of the road. Don't be licking that oil up on my grass.
Joe Thomas
Hey, boy, look that. Boy, that thing leave a mean stain in the driveway. You hear me?
Shannon Sharpe
Absolutely.
Ocho Cinco
My grandma did not. Hey, Joe. The fact that you think you can beat me in basketball is funny, though.
Joe Thomas
You're gonna let your ass go. I mean, enough said. I'm done.
Shannon Sharpe
Brody Burton said Ocho's tattoos have all the names he owe money to. You do owe people money, Ocho.
Ocho Cinco
Hey, I don't owe nobody. I don't owe nobody money, man.
Shannon Sharpe
Nobody.
Ocho Cinco
I owe you 5200. I'm gonna get. I pro. I promise you. I'm gonna get you your money.
Joe Thomas
I promise you.
Ocho Cinco
But 5200 a lot, man. How I' ma pay child support if I pay you?
Joe Thomas
They ain't got nothing to do with him.
Shannon Sharpe
I gotta do, B. I got. I got some bills I need to pay, too. Midlife Tyson said, ocho is Soulja Boy. He did everything first.
Ocho Cinco
Hey, you know that too. That's true. That's true.
Shannon Sharpe
King TL said. I believe Ocho. He walked with Dr. King. Salute the volume.
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This is an iHeart podcast.
Episode: Nightcap - Hour 1: Unc, Ocho, and Iso Joe Answer Your Questions
Release Date: June 4, 2025
Host/Participants: Shannon Sharpe, Joe Thomas, Ocho Cinco
Description: NFL legend Shannon Sharpe sits down with top athletes and influencers to delve into their careers, challenges, and personal stories. In this episode, Unc, Ocho, and Iso Joe tackle a range of listener questions, from potential NBA trades to debates on the greatest players in the NFL.
Shannon Sharpe kicks off the episode by inviting listeners to submit their burning questions. The trio dives into a mix of sports-related inquiries, showcasing their deep knowledge and playful banter.
One of the standout topics revolves around the speculation of Kevin Durant (KD) potentially being traded to the Dallas Mavericks.
Kemper Norwood Jr. ([29:11]) asks, “If KD came to Dallas, who would the Mavs give up?”
Joe Thomas ([29:24]): “Man, they want to give up more than that.”
Shannon Sharpe ([30:03]): “Yeah, they changed. But that doesn't mean you're gonna be at the top, because we saw that with Brooklyn and Phoenix.”
The discussion highlights the complexities of NBA trades, team rebuilding strategies, and the impact of star players on team dynamics.
Shannon and Ocho engage in a passionate debate about Aaron Donald’s MVP credentials versus historical greats.
Shannon Sharpe ([12:27]): “Aaron Donald. The dominance, the eight first team, I think eight-time first team All-Pro, defensive Rookie of the Year, three-time Defensive Player of the Year.”
Ocho Cinco ([12:22]): “It's AD. Way too smooth.”
They juxtapose Donald’s achievements with legends like Kurt Warner and Marshall Faulk, ultimately agreeing on Donald's supremacy in the current NFL landscape.
Joe Thomas and Shannon discuss how NBA strategies have shifted over the years, emphasizing the transition from traditional bigs to versatile scoring point guards.
Shannon Sharpe ([04:05]): “When I came into the league, you had two traditional bigs. Your four-man was not shooting three.”
Joe Thomas ([04:07]): “Yeah, that's how you play nowadays.”
This segment underscores the tactical evolution in basketball and its implications for team composition and player roles.
The hosts share personal stories, including:
Ocho Cinco’s Attempt to Settle a Debt:
Shannon Sharpe ([07:12]): “Give me my money, Ocho.”
Ocho Cinco ([07:44]): “I owe you 5200. I'm gonna get you your money.”
Celebrating Graduations:
Shannon Sharpe ([07:38]): “Antoinette, happy birthday from your son, Raheem.”
Haircut Mishaps:
Shannon Sharpe ([23:34]): “My barber messed up my cut.”
Ocho Cinco ([44:25]): “I was trying to bite it and twist it off. My whole two then popped off.”
These moments add a relatable and humorous dimension to the episode, showcasing the hosts' camaraderie and authenticity.
The conversation shifts to movies and celebrities, with a focus on Tom Cruise and Sylvester Stallone.
Shannon Sharpe ([16:14]): “Who do you think is the king of film series, Tom Cruise or Sylvester Stallone?”
Ocho Cinco ([17:25]): “Lean more towards Tom Cruise.”
They reminisce about classic films like Mission Impossible, Top Gun, Pretty Woman, and Eyes Wide Shut, sharing personal favorites and critiques.
A spirited discussion ensues about favorite old-school cars, revealing the hosts' passion for automotive history.
Shannon Sharpe ([63:44]): “What are your top four old school cars? A 70 Chevelle, 1969 Camaro, 1970 or 71 Cuda, and a 250 GTO.”
Joe Thomas ([68:03]): “I got a 71 Chevelle, black and gray, and I got a 72 Impala.”
The segment highlights their appreciation for classic muscle cars, complete with anecdotes about maintenance and memories.
The hosts analyze some of the worst NBA Finals losses, citing teams like the Lakers against Detroit and the Houston Heat against Orlando.
Shannon Sharpe ([58:03]): “They had Shaq and Kobe and they got swept by Detroit.”
Joe Thomas ([58:05]): “Shaq was still dominating the league. They couldn't do nothing with him.”
They discuss the factors leading to these defeats, emphasizing team composition and individual performances.
Throughout the episode, listeners send in a mix of questions and comments, prompting responses from Unc, Ocho, and Joe. Topics range from barber experiences to favorite sports moments.
David D. Cruz ([51:51]): “Ocho, if your barber messes up your cut, do you say something or did you just never go back?”
Joe Thomas ([51:59]): “If I'm on the road and need a cut, and it was horrible, I may not say nothing, but I'll inform his manager.”
The hosts engage in playful exchanges, maintaining a lively and entertaining atmosphere until the episode's conclusion.
The "Nightcap - Hour 1" episode of Club Shay Shay offers a rich blend of sports analysis, personal stories, and engaging banter. Shannon Sharpe, alongside Joe Thomas and Ocho Cinco, delivers insightful perspectives on current sports dilemmas, reminisces about past glories, and connects with listeners through humor and authenticity. This episode is a must-listen for sports enthusiasts and fans of the hosts alike.