Nightcap Hour 1: Unc & Ocho Break Down Brady’s Raiders Drama + Kyler Murray’s Social Media Slip

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Nightcap Hour 1: Unc & Ocho Break Down Brady’s Raiders Drama + Kyler Murray’s Social Media Slip

Date: September 18, 2025
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson

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Overview

This episode of Nightcap is packed with passionate debates and NFL hot takes as Shannon (“Unc”) and Ocho dissect the controversy surrounding Tom Brady’s presence in the Raiders’ coaching booth, address concerns over competitive advantage, discuss Kyler Murray’s social media misstep, ponder the Chiefs’ slow start, assess running back rankings, and offer quick picks and advice for fantasy players. The conversation is spirited, humorous, and loaded with classic football wisdom, anecdotes, and trash talk.

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1. Tom Brady’s Raiders Drama: Competitive Advantage or Overblown Concern?

[04:45–24:38]

Main Discussion Points

• Topic: Tom Brady, as a minority owner and upcoming broadcaster, is seen in the Raiders' coaching booth with a headset during a game. Debate is raging about whether his dual roles give him or the Raiders a competitive edge.
• Context: Ben Johnson (Lions’ OC) downplayed any advantage Brady could glean from inside access; others in the NFL are not so sure.

Shannon & Ocho's Debate

Chad Johnson's Take (NO Advantage)

• Ocho emphasizes there’s no true competitive edge unless Brady is actually playing:

  "There is nothing that Tom Brady can do to give the Las Vegas Raiders that competitive advantage sitting in the goddamn booth unless he's on the field playing quarterback." – Chad, [07:55]

• Players study film, and knowing tendencies doesn’t override execution:

  "I got one job to do as an individual, and that's win against my opponent that's in front of me." – Chad, [06:52]

• Even if Brady learned secrets, the on-field battle is what matters:

  "I don't care what you share in the meeting. We out there, man on a man. You have to win on the field." – Chad, [13:18]

Shannon Sharpe’s Take (Potential for Advantage)

• Unc pushes back, citing Spygate and closed practices as evidence that inside intel matters, otherwise teams wouldn’t be so secretive:

  "If that's all that mattered, why did they do Spygate if it didn't matter?" – Shannon, [08:33]

• Notes production meetings exist because inside info has value:

  "If production meetings didn't matter, why are they having them?" – Shannon, [08:00]

• Bringing up real-game examples where knowing opponent checks helped:

  "Thirteen catches, a buck 53 and three touchdowns later, you tell me if it mattered I knew what they were doing." – Shannon, [23:36]

• Warns about the slippery slope and cumulative competitive advantage Brady could gain over years of inside access.

Memorable Quotes

• "Just because you have a competitive advantage, it doesn't mean you're gonna win." – Chad, [11:35]
• "If secrecy was not important, why don't they just stay to the line of scrimmage and just yell out the plays?" – Shannon, [13:38]
• "There's always a 'tell.' I'm glad they stayed in that… But look, you don't agree. I don't agree. We different." – Shannon, [24:12]

League-Wide Perception

• Diana Russini reported NFL executives are split: some truly don’t care, others see it as a blatant unfair advantage ([19:07–20:21]).

Resolution

• No consensus; Ocho says any advantage is meaningless unless you execute, while Shannon stands by the importance of competitive secrecy.

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2. Kansas City Chiefs’ Struggles: Cause for Concern?

[27:38–33:29]

Key Points

• The Chiefs have started 0–2, offense is stalling, missing key receivers.
• Ocho remains optimistic:

  "I'm not concerned...when football matters most, which is after Thanksgiving, guess who’s going to be in the hunt?...because they got 15 [Patrick Mahomes]." – Chad, [29:26]

• Shannon urges caution:

  "It gets harder and harder for Mahomes to overcome the lack of talent he has…You become one-dimensional and it gets really, really hard." – Shannon, [31:53]

• Both agree Kansas City will contend, but the margin for error is slimmer with injuries and talent drain.

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3. Bijan Robinson: Best Running Back in the NFL?

[33:40–39:36]

Coach’s Praise & Hosts’ Reality Check

• Falcons’ Coach Hunt called Bijan Robinson the "best player in football."
• Ocho tempers expectations:

  "Best in the NFL? Absolutely not... He reminds me of LeSean McCoy...but best in the game? Wait a minute, slow down man." – Chad, [35:14]

• Shannon agrees:

  "He ain't the best player...I wouldn't take him over Saquon, I wouldn't take him over King Henry..." – Shannon, [36:23]

• Both recognize Bijan’s talent and versatility but say he hasn’t usurped the established elite.

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4. Kyler Murray’s Social Media Slip

[39:54–42:56]

The Incident

• Kyler posted a picture in a Virginia Tech Michael Vick jersey with his pit bulls, then deleted it after backlash reminding people of Vick’s dogfighting scandal.
• Both hosts believe it was an honest, if naive, mistake – intent matters.

  "He probably wouldn't thinking about that...If he remembered...he wouldn't have done that." – Chad, [40:35] "The greatest apology is changed behavior." – Shannon, [42:20]

• They discuss public memory, social media pitfalls, and how society never lets stars forget old mistakes.

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5. NFL Off-Field: New Stadiums and Big Business

[53:30–57:11]

Stadium Development News

• Washington Commanders get approval for new $3.8 billion stadium at former RFK site.
• Shannon discusses the NFL’s trend toward building bigger venues to lure Super Bowls, major events, and maximize revenue with concerts and conventions ([56:13]).
• Ocho: "You gotta recoup that money." – [57:09]

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6. Player Spotlights: OBJ, Defensive Standouts & More

Odell Beckham Jr.’s Comeback Hopes

[49:02–52:58]

• OBJ insists he’s not retiring; says he feels healthy for the first time in years.
• Both hosts highlight how aging stars must accept lesser roles. Ocho advises teams like Kansas City could use him, but he’ll likely have to be a third, fourth or even fifth option.

Top NFL Cornerbacks Week 3

[60:34–63:07]

• Shannon lists top performing corners this week (Nixon, Blackmon, Cam Taylor-Britt, Flott, Douglas).
• Ocho shouts out Cam Taylor-Britt, talks Bengals pride, and dishes some classic wideout vs. DB trash talk:

  “Justin Jefferson, get your seatbelt ready, boy!” – Chad, [62:24]

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7. Prize Picks Segment: “Play or Fade”

[57:11–60:34]

• Hosts analyze the Nightcap staff’s fantasy picks, riff on which lines to play – agree on Josh Allen over 30 rushing yards, James Cook over 25 receiving yards, and Tua with 2+ TDs.
• Ocho on Dolphins vs. Bills:

  "It's a trap game ... the Dolphins gonna win this game. Tua gonna throw three touchdowns." – Chad, [58:58]

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Memorable Moments & Quotes

• On the debate over knowledge vs. execution:

  “As great as you were...there’s no way you truly believe that somebody sitting up there, what we discuss in meetings, on what we like to do, makes that big of a difference on the field, at the highest level, with the 1 percenters.” – Chad, [15:14]

• Football Logic from Unc:

  "People only do things if they gain an advantage from it. You only cheat on a test if you could…" – Shannon, [10:12]

• Ocho’s confidence, even when disagreeing:

  “You know what? Honestly, I don’t care what dog it was. Wouldn’t matter if it was a dog in general. Society’s gonna get him anyway...” – Chad, [41:49]

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Tone & Style

Shannon and Ocho keep things real, occasionally heated, always playful—a mix of old school wisdom, athlete bravado, relatability, and a deep love for football.
Their banter, rooted in years of NFL experience, moves smoothly between major news, personal stories, and broader cultural commentary.

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Timestamps of Key Segments

• Brady Raiders Drama & Advantage Debate: [04:45–24:38]
• Chiefs' Offense/Concerns: [27:38–33:29]
• RB1? Bijan Robinson Debate: [33:40–39:36]
• Kyler Murray Controversy: [39:54–42:56]
• OBJ’s Future: [49:02–52:58]
• Commanders’ New Stadium & NFL Venue Trends: [53:30–57:11]
• Prize Picks “Play or Fade” Segment: [57:11–60:34]
• Top NFL Cornerbacks Week 3: [60:34–63:07]

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Perfect for fans wanting the latest NFL debates, league trends, and classic competitive trash talk all in one action-packed hour on Club Shay Shay’s Nightcap.

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[Chad Johnson]

Listen, I I'm not worried about Ben Johnson's comments on on what he feels about it. I'm going to tell you as a player, I don't care who's in the goddamn booth. I don't care who's in the booth. There is no competitive advantage because Brady's sitting in the booth. A competitive advantage would be Brady being the quarterback for the Las Vegas Raiders. That's a competitive advantage. I don't care. I done watch film already. I know what the Raiders are doing. If I'm a if I'm a Chargers player, there is nothing that I haven't seen on film where there's only Two. There's only one week of film. Anyway. From, from, from, from. If I'm a charging player from the Raiders, offensively or defensively, I'm not worried about nothing, about who sit in the booth calling the plays, because everything matters that's on the field, in between those white lines when that whistle blows. I don't care nothing about that. I got one job to do. It's a team game with 11 individuals on the field, right? I have one job to do as an individual, and that's win against my opponent that's in front of me. There's nothing that Tom Brady can do to give the Las Vegas Raiders and that competitive advantage sitting in the goddamn booth unless he's on the field playing quarterback.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm gonna disagree.

[Chad Johnson]

Come on, what are we talking about?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Question. So if I tell you this is what we like to do in this situation, as you're in production, you're at Fox, because I'm giving you insight on what we like to do. There's a reason. Also, if production meetings didn't matter, why are they having them?

[Chad Johnson]

Time out. You watch film for a reason.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, let them watch film.

[Chad Johnson]

Let me finish. You understand what teams like to do? Teams have tendencies based on down the distance. What we like to do in film is the same shit we watch when we watch film. It's the same.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If that's all that mattered, why did they do Spygate if it didn't matter? You watch film, so why did they do that?

[Chad Johnson]

You know what that was For a competitive advantage. Can I ask you a question?

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's the same thing.

[Chad Johnson]

After Spygate, what happened? Nothing changed.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They continued to keep winning, but it didn't change. Let me ask you a question. When did they put defensive headsets in the defensive player's helmet?

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, 2009.

[Shannon Sharpe]

After it happened. Excuse me? In 2000, when it happened. After that, the defensive players now had headsets. Why did they do that? Ocho? If you gain no advantage, they.

[Chad Johnson]

They. The deep. The defensive. The deep. The linebacker has the headset. Huh? Only the linebacker. And that's just so he can call the goddamn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who has. Who has the headset on the offense?

[Chad Johnson]

The quarterback.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thank you. So you thought you was gonna.

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Hold up.

[Chad Johnson]

Wait a minute. What does it have to do with the. The linebacker? A quarterback of the defense.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oo. So if. Oo what? You tried to say only the linebacker. You thought they was gonna give everybody a headset? Only one guy called, one person. So who calls the plays on the. On the defense? Normally the linebacker. Right. The same. Who calls the plays on the offensive side, the coordinator, the quarterback. I just. I just think you're going down a slippery slope for the simple fact Brady is in. So if it wasn't so, why is he in the coach's booth?

[Chad Johnson]

There is no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why is he. Why is he there?

[Chad Johnson]

I. I don't know. It would make. It would make me not. He not on the field. He not on the field. He's not playing quarterback for the Las Vegas Raiders.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So. So in that case, Michigan, when they did what they did, it wasn't a competitive advantage. If people only do things if they gain an advantage from it. You only cheat on a test if you could. I ain't even need to cheat. So why did you.

[Chad Johnson]

Hold on, hold on. We. We can solve this right now. Really easy. Who won the game? What was the score? Who won the game? Who was the score? Where's the. Where's the competitive advantage?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Brady was so hold up.

[Chad Johnson]

They lost 20. They lost 20 to nine.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Can I ask you a question?

[Chad Johnson]

You know why? Because Brady's not playing quarterback for the Las Vegas Raiders. What he does in the booth, they gotta ask you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If I. If I try to steal something or if I do insider trading and I get caught, that means no harm, no foul. I got caught.

[Chad Johnson]

That's different.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm saying people are doing things. So you keep telling me. What? Why did they do Spygate? If you gain no competitive advantage? You watch film every day. You just told the chat. You watch film every day. So if that's all that was required, why did they go do extra.

[Chad Johnson]

Feeling that it might be a competitive.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You said it was not. You said nobody gains in a competitive advantage, so why did they do it?

[Chad Johnson]

You're not listening to me. You're not listening to me. They're doing it, but it. It didn't matter. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It didn't matter. Guess what?

[Chad Johnson]

Just because you have a competitive vet, it doesn't mean you're gonna win.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It didn't matter so much. One of watch coach Belichick's lieutenant took that same ploy to Denver. Because it didn't matter.

[Chad Johnson]

I know. I. I got one question. I can solve everything. Tom Brady was in the booth for four quarters when the Los Angeles Ocho.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't Ocho just because Ocho. The score was 29, but see you.

[Chad Johnson]

The score was 20 to 9. Did you see the Raiders offensively?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You look at where was the competitive advantage? Looking at it as a singular event, so you make it seem so. Let me ask You a question? So how long do you think Spygate start? The spygate started, so they had only started when they win it or they started it.

[Chad Johnson]

Wait, I don't want to talk about.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You keep saying nothing matters because he's not on the field. Why are people doing things?

[Chad Johnson]

Can I ask you a question? Let me have one more question. If there was no Spygate, you do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Realize we'll never know. We'll never know the Patriots, they would.

[Chad Johnson]

Have because after Spygate, they kept winning. What do you mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

We don't know what would have happened? That's like Ocho is that we talk.

[Chad Johnson]

About the same quarterback that left the page and went to the table.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We're not. We're not saying that he's not great, but there are a lot of smart people that do that, do things because we see guys that do really, really well. But I want to do better now, look, it might not be an advantage, but there are a lot of people. There are enough people that's raising concerns because you go into those meetings and those quarterbacks and those head coaches that they share things. Let me ask you a question.

[Chad Johnson]

It doesn't matter what you share in the meeting. You got to execute it on the field. That's what I'm saying. I don't care what you. I don't care what you share in the meeting. We out there, man on a man. Individual. You have to win on the field.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If you know what somebody is doing, you. It helps, Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

No, it don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So why they going to huddle? So why don't they just. Why does. You don't stand to the line of scrimmage and call the place. Why do they huddle up, Ocho, if they're. If. If the secrecy was not important, why don't they just stay to the line of scrimmage and just yell out the plays? No, it's not.

[Chad Johnson]

But you said.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It doesn't matter. You said I got to execute. You said I got to execute. So why you do?

[Chad Johnson]

It's a team game. Each individual has to execute their goddamn job, whether we talked about it in meeting before the game or not.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So in other words, if I know what you're going to do, if I.

[Chad Johnson]

Know, and you still, like, you still not gonna stop it. You ain't gonna stop it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, I'm telling you that's not true. You're being disingenuous. You know you're being disingenuous.

[Chad Johnson]

No, I'm not. Because you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me ask you a question. When y' all got Ready to run the ball. Let me ask you a question. You got ready to run the ball. Did you tell the defense y' all was gonna run the ball? Why wouldn't you tell them they're going to run the ball? Because they got to stop it.

[Chad Johnson]

You. You didn't hear me? You didn't hear me. I told dudes not right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You tell them everybody's route because they weren't throwing the ball to you every time. Did you catch 25 passes a game? Okay, now I just want to know why didn't you tell them when y' all was running the ball? If they got to stop it, they still got to stop it, Ocho. So it doesn't matter if you told them or not?

[Chad Johnson]

No. See, we. We. We. Damage.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I heard what he said. He said you're not. If it doesn't matter, you should be able to say whatever you want, tell whatever you're going to do. And they got to stop it. So why didn't you tell them?

[Chad Johnson]

There's no way you truly believe that as a competitor, as great as you were, that somebody sitting up there, what we discuss in meetings on what we like to do makes that big of a difference on the field at the highest level with the 1 percenters. I'm not buying that. I'm not buying that. Because you got to execute no matter what. You watch film, right? Hold on, let me say something real quick. Let's say we in week six. You got six weeks, six weeks worth of film that you studied, that you watch, that you know teams tendencies and what they like to do on down the distance. I've done my homework. Not time to go play. I don't care what y' all talked about. I don't care who's sitting up in the goddamn booth. I got one job to do. Get the F open and catch the ball. That's it. Even if you know what's coming most of the time, if you study goddamn film, you know what the hell is coming anyway.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know it's coming on this. I get. I get. I get. I see. I see both sides of the equation, but it's just hard for me. There's. I. I think the thing is there's a reason why they close practices off. I see there's a reason why they don't. Normally they only let. When the guys come around, they only let them observe a small portion of practices. If it didn't matter, they wouldn't do that. But they believe it does.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay? They believe it does. You as great as you were, are Built from a different cloth. You the same one come on here and talk trash all the time at the Banner. Ain't nobody stopping number two. I don't care how much film they watch me mentally. I don't care what you watch. You can watch 10 years worth of film. When I step on that grass in between them lines and that whistleblow and I come to that line, what's my favorite thing to do? Throw me the ball. It's coming. And if you playing bumper run, I'mma tell you what I'm running and you ain't going to stop. You can't. You cannot sit here and tell me and truthfully say Brady being in the booth has a competitive advantage when they got to execute the damn plays on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The field, if that they got. Everybody has to execute. But I do think, I do think to, to know because the coach is talking about specific game plans and you know what a coach like to run. There's a. Let me ask you a question. Why did Brady keep all those meticulous notes? He said he kept notes of every defensive coordinator just in case he became a head coach. Every head coach, if he ever went back. So why did he keep those meticulous notes if it didn't matter? Hey, if.

[Chad Johnson]

Even if he keeps notes, right? Even he gets in the position of power to be a head coach and he uses those notes against a former coach that he's playing and has those notes. Having those notes and making sure the team being able to execute them because you know what's going to come. It means nothing if it doesn't work on the field. When the snip, when, when the ball, when the ball hikes, it means nothing. So Brady was in the booth, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson]

And we saw the Las Vegas Raiders offense.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you look at it as a singer. You're just looking at that, that. But Brady is going to call more games. He's going to be. He has a 10 year deal. So let's just say for the sake of argument, if he's calling 18, 19. He's calling 19 games. It's 17 games plus two. He's calling 20 games a season. Let's just say he called for the next eight years, 20 games, that's 160 games. That means he's going to be done came in contact with a bunch of head coaches and a bunch of defensive coordinators that later become head coaches. We differ. We different.

[Chad Johnson]

If you listen, if you ask a player right now, if you ask a player that's on the field, that's playing the game of football right now, someone that's active, they're like, man, I don't give a. I don't care who calling the plays. I don't. I mean, mentally, they are built and wired differently. They ain't worried about who calling the plays. When we get on the field, I'm gonna bust his ass. I don't care who. I don't care who it is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ain't no advantage I'm gonna win for Diana Rossini. Executives are split on whether it's fair or not for Brady to be possibly getting intel on. On other teams while having a stake in another. There are some teams like, I don't care. Like literally was the text that I got back, I do not care. We do not care. It doesn't bother me. Others. Other teams have said, yeah, it's a completely unfair advantage.

[Chad Johnson]

And I guarantee those other teams suck. I guarantee you. Not worried about it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Can't say that. But because you don't know which teams it might be, it might be Philly, it might be Green Bay.

[Chad Johnson]

It might be.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't know.

[Chad Johnson]

You know what?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know the same guy that says sources. You were the same guy that said sources be making stuff up and say they need to resort the source.

[Chad Johnson]

Hold on, let me. Let me finish. Let me finish. Let me tell you why teams like the Eagles don't care. Teams like the Chiefs or the packers are team that consistently win. Because it doesn't matter how much you game plan, it doesn't matter what. Com. What type of competitive advantage you have, because what they do always works no matter what they go against. That's why their winning percentage is very high every single year.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It don't matter according to the athletic. But it also. Look, it doesn't necessarily mean that it's coaches. It could also be front office people as well. But she said she did reach out. Some says right? It's no big deal. Some says is completely unfair. It's kind of. It's no. Guess what? It's basically you and I. You say it's no big deal. I say, let me.

[Chad Johnson]

Let me. Let me tell you something real quick. Oh, you. You got me good tonight. But we started this off real good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Go ahead.

[Chad Johnson]

Let me tell you what would be unfair, if Tom Brady said, you know what? I'm deciding to come out of retirement. I'm deciding to come out of retirement. I want to play quarterback for the Las Vegas Raiders. Now that is a fair. That is an unfair competitive advantage. Now that is. That is sitting up there calling plays. Well, that don't matter because the person they're like on the field. What we saw the other night, Monday night. Yeah, that ain't nothing. That ain't nothing to deal with.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It says, I think you can figure a lot of things out. Big picture as opposed to game plan strategy. I think it's a larger picture who's like and who's disliked in the building, who's liked and disliked in terms of usage. All that from coaches and players to anything, is a little nugget of information about what the big picture is going on in that organization and how maybe somebody that's involved that could impact the way Raiders operate. So right now we have very differing of opinions. Chad, I know you haven't heard that in a very long time from OO and I, very different of opinions, but we are opposed on this. I understand what Brady said. I understand what OO say we, but I also understand what the other side is saying as well.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm not buying anything you saying right now. I'm not buying it because I know how you know how you were as a player and it don't matter who's across from you. You f to whoop they ass. I don't care how much film they watch. I don't care what competitive advantage they may feel they have. You finna get the job done, it don't matter. And it's hard for me to even wrap my mind around, even fathom the fact that, oh well, they know this, but, oh well, they told him about this. Oh, they watched our practice. So now they have a competitive advantage. When we get out there on Sunday, man, I'm sorry, I get child, I.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Give you a prime example.

[Chad Johnson]

You going to get this work. I don't care. I don't care how much film.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I give you an example. In 1996, we were playing the Chargers and we went a lot of empty sets and in the process of going empty, their check. We had never seen this on tape. They never shown it. But their check was to go to Vegas after two, after, vague after. Hold on. After, after. We checked to this a couple of times and I heard Junior say, I rest his soul, he would say vegas. After two times, they would go to cover two. I said, I said, mike. I went to sideline. I said, mike Cool was standing right there. I said, every time we checked at this empty set, they're checked to it is Vegas, which is cover two. He said, are you sure? I said, mike, we've done, we've run, we've checked, we've been in this Play. They check. We motion TD out of the backfield. The check is Vegas. He says, okay, we got something for it. Thirteen catches, a buck 53 and three touchdowns later, you tell me if it mattered I knew what they were doing.

[Chad Johnson]

See, you know, you notice that you know, you know, you notice. Well, obviously is is a. What you just said you never saw this check from me before. You do every. Listen, you do know every team, every defense, every offense, they come up with wrinkles you haven't seen before.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right, but we, we all. If he, if he kept his mouth shut, I wouldn't have known that though.

[Chad Johnson]

But listen, you got. He got to make the call when y' all go spread. He a had no choice but to make the call. Obviously when y' all in spread, we got to get out of man. What's the first thing you do? Check the COVID too. That is the most safe coverage you can have where everybody's somewhat protected.

[Shannon Sharpe]

There's always a. I'm glad, I'm glad they didn't change it to check the COVID four or they went to cover six or they went to cover five. I'm glad. I'm glad they stayed in that. But look, you don't agree. I don't agree. We diff. We put it like this. We have differing of opinions on this. It's very. It's not very often that Ocho and I disagree this hard.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Disagree on this one. Oh Joe, excuse me. The Chiefs are in a surprising going to start and their offensive struggles can be attributed to absence of key players. ESPN Dan Graziani reported that the lack of continuity at the wide receiver position has created concerns in Kansas City. I get the sense that the Chiefs are frustrated by repetitive nature of this the wide receiver room being decimated every year by injuries and other issues. But they expect to improve once Worthy is back and once Rice comes off suspension. Kansas City has produced 30 just 38 combined points through two games. Oo are you concerned about the Chiefs?

[Chad Johnson]

Well, we talk about the same thing. We talk about the same concerns we had last year with the Chiefs at the beginning of the season. Oh they keep dropping the ball. Oh they're not getting open. Oh they're not creating no separation. I'm not concerned the only reason I'm not concerned with the 02 star by the Chiefs is. Listen, every year it gets more and more difficult, you know, what to repeat to get back to the Super Bowl. Teams are a little bit more familiar with what you like to do. They're familiar with the tendencies. I'm not concerned at all. And then we say, oh, Rasheed Rice is not. Is not available. I mean, it's a part of the game. There are a lot of teams that don't have to have receivers out. Hell, the Green Bay packers got receivers out. Brother Watson is not playing. There are other teams that don't have some of their key players, key players playing, but they're still finding ways to win. The Kansas City Chiefs, with Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid will find a way to win. Do they like the start that they have right now? Absolutely not. But when football matters most, which is after Thanksgiving, guess who's going to be in the hunt? It ain't. It ain't pretty right now in September and then probably not going to be pretty in October. But when it matters most, they gonna be all right because they got 15. They got 15.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But it. But as you. But it gets harder and harder. It got to the point where Brady even couldn't overcome what they had in New England. He went to Tampa and people say, well, he won a new Super Bowl. When he went to Tampa, did he not have better talent than what he left in New England? So Mike Evans was not better than what he had. Chris Godman was not better than what he had. They drafted Tristan Worth. That defense was better than what he had. See, we keep basing on based on a hip, and I agree with you that we look at what Patrick Mahomes, but we have to admit Buffalo look better. The Chargers look better. The Ravens look better. Teams are getting better. So to sit there and say you can't. I don't believe. I've never been one to believe. Well, they did it in the past. That means they can do it again. No, you got to evolve. You have to get better. And if you notice, Ocho is getting harder and harder for them. And it's getting harder and harder for Mahomes to overcome the lack of talent that he has, because like you said, okay, we're down. Rasheed, Rice and Worthy, those are our two best receivers. Okay, so that means now your third best receiver, one of those or third, fourth or fifth best, has to go to number one spot. And now you getting guys playing like, damn, I was really only trying to play them for special situations. And now oo they got to go out there and play 25, 30 snaps a game where I was really only hoping to play them five to ten snaps a game. The running game. They can't run it. Oo they, they, they become one dimensional and it, you know, when it comes one dimensional, it gets really, really hard. It gets very difficult for you to just sit back there and throw the football cuz team gonna come get you. And with that offensive line, you, you, you the right tackle again getting penalties, false start your left guard, not what it needs to be. Now I like the right tackle. They got the guy from Ohio State. He looks like he gonna be a keeper. We know what Trey Smith is now. Trey Smith gonna get a hold. He called the game. Now you go and talk to the. Hey, y. Yeah, he gonna give us one hold and call again. So you already know that going in. You know you're right tackle 74. Yeah, he gonna give us probably like either get one holding call. He gonna give us two false starts. Yeah, he gonna get that. Not so right. You already, you already know this thing. It's, it's getting harder, Ocho. It gets hard because you remember now, remember how Brady them jumped out the box and Brady went three and four years and then he went a whole decade. Yeah, he won another one.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah. I don't, I just, I, I just don't see it. I just don't see it. I think, I think Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid, as creative as Andy Reid is, I think they're gonna find a way to get done. They're going to find a way to get things done. They're going to find a way to hide some of the weaknesses that they have offensively. Right. Now, obviously it all starts with the running game. We have to find a way to run the ball. They got to get Kareem Hunt going. They got to get Pacheco going. I'm not sure what they have to do but make Kareem Hunt five years younger.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's the only thing you can do. Like I said, Pacheco, I mean, maybe he hadn't been the same since he came off that injury last year, but he the same. You see that? I mean, well, I'm not break Chad, y' all knowing I'm not breaking news to y' all guys. Y' all see, y' all see how one dimensional they are. And now when you one dimensional, they bring an extra guy and they get, they trap my homes. You, you've got to be, you got to be able to keep.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey. Matter of fact, it don't even get no easy, huh. Who they don't they. Who they got?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, they're on the road at the Giants I think on Sunday night or Monday night.

[Chad Johnson]

So that means now they got to deal with Kayvon Thibodeau and Abdul Carr to come off that edge. Hey. Hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

It's a good chance they could start owing 3. Depending on how rustling boys go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's a great chance they can start owing three. It's not a good. It's a great chance but OO say he believes in the Chiefs. We're gonna find out.

[Chad Johnson]

Only because they got 15. Only because they got 15.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh.

[Chad Johnson]

He's still playing. He's still playing. He top five all time. He's still playing. He'S top five all the time. Therefore I'm gonna give him grace and him and Andy Reid being able to figure that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Bijan Robinson finished fourth in the NFL in total scrimmage yard last season. Last week, Bijan Robinson had 143 yard outing and a win over the Vikings. His second most rushing yards in a game in his young career and his third of 125 plus yard performance of his career. Coach Kareem Hunt says he isn't taking Robinson for granted. He's definitely the best player in football. Without a doubt. He's unbelievable. I love the kid. I love everything about. I love everything about him. I love watching him the ball. I love his confidence. I love the demeanor. I, I love his mindset. I love the leadership. I love everything about him. Oo is Bijan Robinson the best running back in the game?

[Chad Johnson]

Listen, I, I love, I love Raheem. I, I'm, I'm, I'm all for up and and and and big upping your players but the best running back in the game? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. He's really good. He's on pace. He's on.

[Colin Coward]

He's.

[Chad Johnson]

He's going on on, on. On the right spectrum to become one of the the better running backs in the league. I mean chat do you agree with me? Is he top five already? Has he unseat everyone else that that is put in work before him? Is he better than Jameer Gibbs? Is he better than Montgomery and and Saquon and then Christian McCaffrey even though he's been hurt, even though you know he has a. Wait a minute now. He's really, he's really good. I'm not gonna lie. He got some of the best feet in the game. He reminds me of my young brother, God damn Lashawn McCoy. His movement, his lateral movement, you know, being able to jump, stop, and make people miss, you know. Right. Right in the pocket. Yes, but the best in the game. Wait a minute. Slow down, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I don't think he's past Saquon. I don't think he's past King Henry. If you want to put him and Gibbs, Jonathan Taylor, and if you want to put. But, yeah, yeah, now, he ain't. But first of all, he ain't the best player you. He ain't. He ain't better than quarterback, so he ain't better than Josh Allen. He's not better than Lamar. So I think he meant. I think what he meant, and I hate to say. Well, Shannon, you heard what the man said.

[Chad Johnson]

He may maybe running back.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. But hey, what he said, he. He should have just said, I think he's the best running back. Because I guarantee you, if I said. I tell you what, you have to trade Bijan Robinson, but you can get Lamar Jackson. You think he takes that? Okay, you get. You can get. You got to trade Bijan, but you'll get Josh Allen. You think he takes that? If you. You gotta trade Bijan, but you get Patrick Mahomes. You think he takes that? Okay, that's what I'm saying. So now if you want to say running backs. Me, personally, I think he's phenomenal, but I wouldn't take him over Saquon. I wouldn't take him over King Henry. I'm not sure. I take it take him over Jonathan Taylor. I don't. I don't know. Him and Gibbs, they came in about the same time. They. So they close, but.

[Chad Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And for me, it's a no for me, when it comes to, like, Saquon and King Henry. No, I think that. I think they top two. That's just me personally. Somebody else might have a. Somebody might say, I like Josh Jacobs. And I. I ain't gonna fault you for that, but I'm not taking Jacobs over those big two. Jonathan Taylor, you say, Gibbs, whomever, Bijan, I'm not taking them over Derrick Henry and Saquon Barkley. That's just me.

[Chad Johnson]

And. And listen, and I'm. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not hating. I'm just saying, just based on what coach said, he said, best in the NFL.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He said, best player in NFL.

[Chad Johnson]

Best player. Listen, he's extremely explosive. He's extremely elusive. He's a very, very exciting running back to watch.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson]

And for him to go in that conversation as best player in the NFL, every time he touched the ball, he has to have the type of impact like a Ladanian Thomason, like a Adrian Peterson, where every time they get the ball, uncle, you got to hold your breath because you ain't no telling what the hell gonna happen. That's when we talk about best. Like, come on, come on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now he's, I, I don't think he's there yet, but he's a phenomenal young player. Ocho, the way he slipped, really. I think the thing is now he's more of a complete back than say some of those other guys. Now you look at Saquon. Saquon can catch the ball. That's really not what Henry. They normally bring in justice heel when they want to, you know, when they want to throw the ball. Ocho, you look at Jermaine Gibbs, he'll stay in on some passing downs. He got good hands. Bijan Robinson got good hands. But I think he's phenomenal. I mean, he can catch the ball. Christian McCaffrey can catch the ball. These are more like your dual threat guys run and catch. Derrick Henry is more of your old school IBAT guy. Toss him handing the ball and let him go to work. And then on third down, if it's third and seven, eight, you're probably going to bring a different back end.

[Chad Johnson]

And, and, and to be fair, based on Bijan Robinson's skill set, he's on this trajectory of being a top five running back. He's, he's on that, right? He's on that. He's definitely on that. But when we talk about best player in the NFL, I think of what Adrian Peterson did. I think of Ladanian Thomason. You know, I'm, I'm talking about, we talk about hall of Fame caliber type backs that can change the dynamic of a game from anywhere on the field.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And it, it's, I mean it's rare that we even think about a running back in that capacity now. Oo because the quarterback, they've taken the running counter. I mean we just, we just back started back talking about the running back last year because of Saquan and Derrick Henry was doing what they doing. Remember, you shouldn't, you know, there people say you shouldn't draft the running back in the first round. The running back had been devalued and, and now we're, now we're throwing them right back into the, the most valued to the best player in the league conversation where for about a decade plus People weren't talking about the running back like we talk. Like we're talking about them last year and what we're currently talking about them now. But I think the thing is now, because it's become such a passing league, because they protect the quarterback and the receiver so much, and they don't protect the running back. They actually, they harmed the running back because guess what? Oo. He can't lower his head anymore. Remember, you can't lower your head and drop the thunder on somebody.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. And they. They've kind of been lean. We haven't got.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We ain't got that call this year. But it's coming.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm like, so you want the man to just run straight up and just let everybody put their helmet in his chest? You're taught to run behind your pads.

[Chad Johnson]

You got to have no choice. You got to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Kyler. Murray posted a photo of him wearing a retro Virginia Tech Michael Vick jersey while posing with one of his two pit bulls. Murray took down the Post after seeing online backlash. In no way shape form do I condone animal cruelty or dog fighting. So I apologize to any. To any. To anybody or whoever I affected with that.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. I mean, hey, honestly, hey, honest mistake. Honest mistake on his part. He probably wouldn't think about that. You probably wouldn't think about that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So pit bull and Michael Vic. So you couldn't get anybody else jersey. Michael Vick, think about. Oh, I'll say it one more time. Michael Vick. I see. I see.

[Chad Johnson]

We thinking about it. You're not hearing me. We thinking about it. We understand it. He wasn't thinking about it because he was thinking about it. And remember the situation that happened when it did happen, he wouldn't have done that. That's a. That's an honest mistake. That. That's an honest mistake. Because you. You know better. You know better. If you understood. Wait a minute. This happened years ago.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he. I mean, this was like 2000, what, 2007. 2008.ish. So how was. How was Kyler Bird in.

[Chad Johnson]

How was Kyler maybe 11.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He was maybe. Maybe 10. I don't know. Is he 27, 28? So this was 17, probably 17, 18 years ago.

[Chad Johnson]

Do you think he even remembers? Because if you remembered, he wouldn't have done that because. Okay, you know what? I'm the quarterback court face of the franchise. I shouldn't do this because this is how they view it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I think. I think people are looking at it like, bro, of all the jerseys that you. You got a. You got A Michael Vic vtech jersey on, and then the dogs that you got are pit bulls. Oo if it's not a pit bull, I don't think anybody make a correlation. If it's a German shepherd, if it's a boreble, it's a chihuahua, it's a Frenchie. It's just that the big jersey and the pit bull, that's what got.

[Chad Johnson]

You know what? Honestly, I don't care what dog it was. It wouldn't matter if it was a dog in general. You know how. You know how society is gonna get him anyway, listen, it could have been a Pomeranian. They gonna link it to what you doing taking a picture with a dog. And you got that. You know, it's unfortunate. Obviously, when we make mistakes on, we will always be remembered by those mistakes. Always. Oh, and including Vic, include. Include. Include myself.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, right.

[Chad Johnson]

It just is. It's what you do after the mistake.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That you judge by your. Your most egregious mistake. Unfortunately, that's a society that we live in and we understand that you live, you learn, and you don't make the same mistake twice, and you move on. So, hey, he said. He said in no way he doesn't condone dog fighting, which I believe. He doesn't condone animal cruelty, which I believe. And he wanted to apologize. So the greatest apologies change behavior. I don't believe we'll see Mr. Mr. Murray post something like this. Now he can post the dog because, hell, I remember when Michael Vic got a dog and people tried to. Like, the man couldn't even get a dog.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's good. Hey, hey, speaking of. I know, I know we don't talk politics on here, and it's. This really isn't the platform for that. Well, you saw what happened to our brother Jimmy Kelly.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I saw that.

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I saw that. But I thought, hold on. What's the first amendment? I thought, oh, never mind.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, it. Listen, it depends. But do you understand how. How powerful that power structure is that pull off?

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Chad Johnson]

Okay. Okay. Okay, okay, okay. I just. I just. I don't want to get into it. I don't want to get into it, but I just. I just want to know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I saw it.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, them people powerful.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's. We headed out. Hey, we headed down a slippery slope, Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

I.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We head down a slippery slope because I remember one time that people said. And they made fun of Joe Biden and they made fun of George Floyd. They made fun of a lot of blacks that got killed, and they made a Lot of fun of a lot of people that did some things. And that's free speech. That's free speech. Now it's an issue. Like you said, I. Look what it happened. I mean, and I, you know, but it's just, boy, we got, boy, we, we in some times right now, boy, these next eight, you got to be on your best behavior the next three years. You got to be on your best. You got, I mean, kids getting kicked out of school, kids getting kicked out of school, your passport's getting redeemed and all this kind of other stuff. I'm telling you. Yeah. And some people like, oh, that ain't nothing and block, boy. That, that, that's how it's, that's how it starts. What you do is that you so distrust what with your institutions. That's the first and foremost thing. Now the only truth is, I'm giving it to you. The only truth that you're going to be able to get is from OO and I. And then you sow distrust and then I start carving away at certain freedoms that you enjoyed.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, hold on, hold on. And you know what? Some of the freedoms they carving away at, you're not really paying attention to it because it doesn't, it doesn't affect you just yet. But they always say history always repeats.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Itself because it starts very small because the, the what they're carving away and we're going to move on what they're taking away, this last generation didn't have to fight for. So let's go ahead. Oh, yo, see, when you don't, you don't have to fight for something.

[Chad Johnson]

Right, right, right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But see, people, see, we grew up in the time and, and my mom and grandmother and things they was in that. They remember segregation and they remember the civil rights and they remember the Fair Housing act and they remember the interracial. They remember those things we take. Some of this generation take it for granted. They don't remember voting rights because they've always been had to vote. So now as they start to strip things away that you didn't have to fight for, you don't miss it.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Until you don't have it.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Mm. Yeah. And listen, I, you know what? I always, always love the message. I always love to fight. But people never forget. They don't understand the power struck in the ecosystem and what you're fighting against. You can't even see it, so you don't know where to swing at. You're not, you're not hearing me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I hear you. I know.

[Chad Johnson]

I'M saying it. No. You want to fight the fight, but you don't know what to swing.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Odell Beckham Jr. Isn't ready to call a career just yet. In an interview with Complex, OBJ shut down retirement rumors and said he's the healthiest he's been a long time. Retiring is not happening. I just came from the gym. This is the first time in a long time I can like pop up out of bed or if a dog was about to chase me, I could take off running. I'm good. And, and I know I can play in this league right now. Oo were you?

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

OBJ says he's not ready to retire just yet. He says he's the healthiest he's been in a long time. And, and he says this is the first time in a long time he could like pop up out of bed and if a dog was chasing him, he could take off. I'm good. I know I can play in this league.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. I, I like it. I like it. Now, coming to play in the league, that is all situations.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson]

What team will put you in situations that are advantageous, where you can do what you can do? That's, that's, that's the hard part. Huh? Because all the teams have their number ones, number twos. What situation can you go to? There are 32 teams. What teams can you go to that will put you in situations where you can help them offensively? That's what matters. It's just not about going anywhere. It's just not about being on roster you somewhere you can be happy, you can be somewhat productive and help a team win. I know one team that can help right now. We could help. And they struggling with receivers, dropping the balls, having issues. Sh. Going down there with 15 in, in Kansas City. What are we talking about? Come on now. Yeah. I mean, you got one sitting right there. I mean this. I'm, I'm not an officer coordinator. I'm not a scout. I'm just understanding he might not be the Odell Beckham of the New York Giants. He might not be the Odell Beckham that we're used to seeing. Who Made that. Who made the spectacular one hand catch. This is Odell Beckham. If given the opportunities, he can still make plays. That's. That's all it comes down to. Opportunities. Sometimes they think we wash when we're really not washed. We just don't get the opportunities we used to get because the injury. They see you one way after you get hurt, you get hurt twice, they view you in a whole different light.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And then when you start bouncing around teams.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And I think the thing is he's gonna have to change his mindset. You see, like D hop. D hop. Like I'm not getting 60 plays a game. I'm gonna get 10, 15 plays and I gotta make, I gotta make each play count. And so that's the kind of the way you have to shift your focus because you're not the man. You're not. At best case, you'll be third. D Hop has accepted the fact with all those, all pros, with all those Pro Bowls, D Hop, except it's Rashid Rice and it's Bateman, then it's me.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. I mean, you understand it, but see.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You and I sitting here saying that, but you know, the athlete, the competitive in you, when you're out there, you're not saying that. You're like, man, I. I can still make the plays. I'm just as good at him.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. But now I don't like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You and I know that it doesn't work.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. One, one thing you learn once you get that up in age and the young bulls come in, especially most of the young bulls you talk about in the names you call, they didn't already got their paydays. And there's a pecking order. It's. It's about understanding that pecking order that means D Hop going to the, going to the Ravens. You understand? Oh, it's. They flowers and it's Bateman. And then hold on, even before D Hop, it's goddamn mark.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It was likely. It was likely. It likely got hurt. So, you know, I'm third. If I'm lucky, I'll be third.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

More than likely, I'm probably gonna be the fourth of the fifth option.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you have to be willing to accept that. And that's one thing that if, if I could tell Odell, I was like, odell, are you gonna be okay being the 4th or 5th option now? 4th and 5th option. 4th and 5th option don't get 10 targets. Oo 4th or 5th option don't get.

[Chad Johnson]

You know, and let me tell you something, it's about doing the most with the targets you do get. Because look at D Hop last week.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What? One for one the week before he caught at Buffalo.

[Chad Johnson]

I need all that. And you know what happened when coaches see that on film, you know they gonna cook up something for him again.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They try to always try to put him in a situation where he can be successful. Yep.

[Chad Johnson]

Every time we throw it to 10 what we get, we get a touchdown and we gonna cook up something. We're gonna add something to you in that first 15. Don't worry about it. Just hold.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh show. The Washington D.C. city Council gave a second final approval to a new Washington Commander Stadium Stadium at the grounds of the ORFK voting 11 and 2 in favor. The 3.8 billion dollar project will include a 65,000 seat stadium and and the development of the local area. The Commanders have been playing in Northwest stadium in Landover, Maryland since 1997. The team played at RFK Stadium located in Washington D.C. from 1961 to 1996. The team will now return to the old side of RFK Stadium. The old building is in the process of being demolished in a brand new stadium built. I played in the old rfk. Obviously I paid in in the. I played in the new. What's that stadium called? It was FedEx Field. I think it was called FedEx Field. If I'm not mistaken.

[Chad Johnson]

They had grass.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, yeah, even the ORFK had grass. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The ol RFK was grassed also. I mean we played them in 90, they were good. As a matter of fact I think we played them in 92. They had just won the Super bowl in 90. In 91. Or did we play him now? I think it was 92. We played them. But they were really, they were really good, you know. Yeah, no, they were really good. Really good. Really good. Yeah. But I mean you see the Broncos, I think what's happening Ocho get these new stadium. I want to get a Super Bowl. The Broncos are going to rebuild a stadium downtown. A retractable roof. Roof. Super Bowl. Wait, down downtown Denver?

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, that's a whole lot of traffic.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, when, when you got that kind of money and you're going to fund the project yourself and they've seen some of these. Super Bowl, super bowl went to Minnesota. The super bowl went to New York. We've seen Super Bowls go to cold weather places. So not only that, okay, co draft. See the draft's gonna be in Pittsburgh next year. Oo we saw the draft last year. We was there in Green Bay. So they're trying to do things to lure. Have a draft here, have a Super bowl here. Because. Right. Guess what? What? Next year, next year 60 is in San Francisco because 50 was in San Francisco. That was the Bronco played Carolina. 60 back in San Francisco. Then you back at Sofi, and then you at Atlanta. Mercedes Benz, you see the new stadium. So Joe, you see Levi, Sofi, Mercedes Benz, you see you. You see the direction that they're going in? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Most definitely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think that's. I think that's a play. Josh Harris group. I think that's the. The owner. The. The min. Majority owner of the Washington Commanders. I think that's kind of the direction that they playing in. Oo Hex. Excuse me. Playing it. Heading in. So 3.8 million. A 3.8 billion dollar project with a 65 seat stadium and a development. So they have shopping things and things of that nature down there. Plus Ocho. Hey, Taylor Swift, Beyonce, Drake, Weekend. Hey, y', all, come on down here. Hey. Football games, college football bring a national brain. Hey, won the college football playoff games here. That's how you recruit. Hey, y' all would have a track to pull. As a matter of fact, hey, y' all could have. Somebody could have the Republican or the Democratic National Convention, y' all can have that here.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, you gotta recoup that money.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How many different buckets can we dip out of? Ocho. Ocho. Tonight we gotta. We introduce a new. Our newest segment, play or Fade, presented by Prize Picks. This is how it works. The Nightcap staff have made a slip of their picks, and we could either play their slip or make some changes. Their slip ahead of Thursday night football is Josh allen more than 29.5 rush yards. I'm changing that. I ain't checking y' all on that. Josh Allen gonna give me. Josh Allen gonna give me at least 30. I ain't got to go but five rush yards. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going that for sure. I ain't. I ain't fooling with the. I ain't fooling with the staff. What you think you like. Do you like that? You think. You think I'm good?

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You should be.

[Shannon Sharpe]

James Cook, 24 and a half receiving yards. Take the take, take the staff or go higher. Because you know, James Cook normally catching one or two screens a game. Ooh, yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

And. And at the backfield. He'll catch some at the backfield and get jiggy with it too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So 0.5 more. He gonna have at least 25 receiving yards. Okay.

[Chad Johnson]

Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right. All right. Tour, 1.5 TDs.

[Chad Johnson]

Absolutely. Could we be. Could we be we beating the Bills? So you. You. Hey, you listen. See, y', all, Y' all don't believe in me. That's the problem. Now, people never believe in me. Sometimes. Sometimes you need to listen to your elders, huh? Listen to your elders. When your elders tell you something, you don't question them. You just go with what they saying.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because they know that teacher.

[Chad Johnson]

I know that teacher.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Based off history, that teacher told you you were going mountain or nothing, huh?

[Chad Johnson]

Listen, based off history this week, it's a trap game. Huh? It's a trap game. People don't even realize it. It's a trap game. It's early in the season, the Bills flying high for the Dolphins morale in general. They gonna win this game. I'm telling you. I. All right. He at two, gonna throw three touchdowns.

[Shannon Sharpe]

See, I hate the. I hate this because sometime, you know, he be getting them a. He get them empty calorie stats and touchdowns. They down by 30 points and he is still in the fourth quarter throwing the ball.

[Chad Johnson]

Don't do that, don't do that, don't do that, don't do that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

1.5. Damn. All right, I'm gonna say, you know what? Okay, okay, I' ma listen to y'. All. Shouldn't you gonna give me my money back if I lose this one? And weekly max discount. My home's more than 0.5 pass yards. How many y' all doing? Getting five. How much you guys playing for? 200. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. My home, they got doing up a pass for one yard. Oh, yeah, Chad, Y' all know I'm all on that. I jumped on that with both feet. Yeah, I'm looking good. I'm looking good. All right, Josh, break off one of those long ass runs early, man. They gonna beat the dog stuffing out of y'.

[Chad Johnson]

All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oo NFL cornerback cornerback rankings have dropped three. Have dropped ahead week three. Here are your top five. Oo Shan Nicks in Green Bay, 56 coverage snaps against the Commanders, targeted five times, zero yards allowed. Ma Blackman, Indianapolis Close. 34 coverage snaps, zero yards allowed, five tackles. Cameron okay. Cam Taylor, Britt 42 coverage snaps. Trevor Lawrence threw the ball 2272 yards, none in the direction of Cam Cordell float.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, you got.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn right, Cordell float. 43 coverage snaps. Dak Prescott through the direction three times with just 16 yards. And Rasul Douglas, Miami Dolphins, recently signed by the Dolphins just to feel the need. A cornerback has done a great job. Are you surprised by. So it's not. Are you surprised by the names that you don't see up here?

[Chad Johnson]

I mean, I'm not surprised by the name that don't see up there because they're not up there for a reason. Most of. The. Most. Most of the. The good corners that we're used to seeing, they will later on as the season progresses. They'll be up there, the cream always riding to the top. But it's good to see the names that are. That are on there, especially my brother Cam Taylor, Brent, who's playing really good football. And it's all. It's all like. It's all I can show you. It's all this mean.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, there you go. Everybody getting scrapped now. Lord have mercy.

[Chad Johnson]

Everybody getting strapped. Everybody strapped. Especially in Cincinnati. Hey, Justin Jefferson. Justin Jefferson, we come into town. Cam Taylor, Britt, we strapping in.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, y', all, pistol JJ in for 100, 125 and two tubs.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, Justin Jefferson, get your seatbelt ready, boy. Get your seatbelt because Cam Taylor, Brit boy, it ain't nothing, boy. You hear me? And. And we finna win. Banger's gonna be three zero. We gonna be three zero. Chase might go for 200 take. Hey, Brian Murphy. Brian Murphy Jr. You know, Brian Murphy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jr. Yeah, number seven.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, he did. Here. Yeah, he died in Minnesota. Huh. Well, you gonna. You're gonna a Brian Murphy Jr. Brian Flores. All that exotic stuff and all that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Blissing you be doing, go get.

[Chad Johnson]

Try that. Hey, don't try that because you're gonna leave. You're gonna leave your back in exposed, huh? You're gonna leave your back end exposed and we gonna take advantage of it.

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[Chad Johnson]

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