Nightcap Hour 1: Unc & Ocho debate the best NFL offenses entering the season + NFLPA is in shambles

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Nightcap Hour 1 Summary Release Date: July 21, 2025

Hosts: Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco (Chad Ochocinko Johnson)

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Introduction

In the inaugural episode of "Nightcap Hour," NFL legend Shannon Sharpe teams up with former NFL star Chad Ochocinco to delve into pressing topics surrounding the upcoming NFL season. The duo engages in a spirited debate over the top NFL offenses poised to make a significant impact, while also addressing the tumultuous state of the NFL Players Association (NFLPA).

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1. Ranking the Best NFL Offenses for the Upcoming Season

Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco kick off the episode by presenting CBS Sports' NFL triplet rankings:

1. Cincinnati Bengals – Led by Joe Burrow, running back Chase Brown, and wide receivers Ja'Marr Chase.
2. Philadelphia Eagles – Featuring Jalen Hurts, Saquon Barkley, and A.J. Brown.
3. Baltimore Ravens – With Lamar Jackson, Derrick Henry, and Zay Flowers.
4. Detroit Lions – Starring Jared Goff, James Cook, and Amon-Ra St. Brown.
5. Kansas City Chiefs – Patrick Mahomes, Isaiah Pacheco, and Rashid Rice.
6. Buffalo Bills
7. Los Angeles Rams
8. San Francisco 49ers
9. Dallas Cowboys
10. Other Top Teams

Disagreements and Discussions:

• Chad Ochocinco (Ocho) expressed strong support for the Bengals, highlighting Chase Brown's performance:
  “The Bengals are number one thanks to Joe Burrow, running back Chase Brown…” ([04:28])

• Shannon Sharpe contested the top spot, advocating for the Philadelphia Eagles as the premier offense:
  “Number one should be the Philadelphia Eagles… I would put the Ravens in front of the Bengals as well.” ([05:19])

• The hosts debated the depth of each team's offensive lineup, with Shannon emphasizing the disparity in running back performance:
  “The gap between the running backs is greater than the distance between Chase and, say, Amon-Ra St. Brown.” ([09:00])

• Shannon Sharpe questioned the inclusion of quarterbacks like J.J. McCarthy, expressing uncertainty about their impact:
  “But I'm not sure about the quarterback position.” ([19:29])

Notable Quotes:

• Shannon Sharpe:
  “Any objections? You like it?” ([05:19])

• Chad Ochocinco:
  “You're a hustler. You get things done, but you don't always do things for yourself.” ([07:11])

• Shannon Sharpe:
  “The gap with the running back gap. There's a bigger gap between the running back than it is receivers.” ([08:56])

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2. The State of the NFL Players Association (NFLPA)

Shannon Sharpe shifts the conversation to the precarious situation within the NFLPA:

• Resignation of Chief Strategist Officer JC Treader:
  “Chief Strategist Officer JC Treader has resigned from his post amid scrutiny over hiring former NFLPA Executive director Lloyd Howell.” ([47:32])

• Critique of NFLPA Leadership:
  Shannon criticizes the current leadership for prioritizing celebrity status over effective representation:
  “These dudes think they are celebrities. These dudes think they're powerful… they flex while using and abusing all the connections.” ([47:40])

• Issues Highlighted:

  • Hiring Practices: Favoritism and nepotism within NFLPA leadership.
  • Financial Mismanagement: Allegations of exorbitant spending and misallocation of player funds.
  • Player Advocacy: Lack of genuine representation and focus on player welfare.

Notable Quotes:

• Shannon Sharpe:
  “These dudes think they are celebrities… act like sanctimonious heroes through it all.” ([48:50])

• Ryan Seacrest:
  “You need somebody that can play hardball with them. You need somebody that's gonna be for the players and gonna get what's right.” ([50:19])

• Shannon Sharpe:
  “We got to put a war chest together, guys. In order for us to get… We want lifetime benefits, and we want to do away with that franchise tag.” ([62:19])

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3. Reflections and Anecdotes from Their NFL Experiences

The hosts reminisce about their past experiences in the NFL, sharing personal stories and lessons:

• Shannon Sharpe recounts a pivotal game where a dropped pass led to a critical injury and subsequent loss:
  “I dropped the two-point conversion. I was some slow man. That's on me.” ([34:27])

• Ryan Seacrest draws parallels between their discussions and broader sports experiences, emphasizing the challenges athletes face:
  “When you think about it, you averaging 15 yards of catch, you had 1600 yards or high fifteens, you was averaging 15 yards of catch. So just imagine 110, 115, 120, 30 catches.” ([14:07])

• They discuss the physical and mental demands of professional sports, highlighting the narrow margins between success and failure.

Notable Quotes:

• Shannon Sharpe:
  “It's the hardest thing to do is to hit a baseball.” ([68:34])

• Ryan Seacrest:
  “The average human, you put them in the batter's box, and as soon as the ball fly by, I can't.” ([71:21])

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4. Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Shannon and Chad wrap up their discussion by emphasizing the need for reform within the NFLPA and the importance of strategic planning for players:

• Financial Prudence:
  “Please start saving your money. No more homes. No more extravagant purchases.” ([58:37])

• Advocacy for Players' Rights:
  Shannon urges future NFLPA leaders to prioritize players' long-term well-being over short-term gains and media image:
  “We want guaranteed money, and we want lifetime health benefits.” ([62:19])

• Optimism for Change: Despite the challenges, both hosts express hope that new leadership can steer the NFLPA toward more effective advocacy and support for players.

Notable Quotes:

• Shannon Sharpe:
  “We got to put a war chest together, guys.” ([62:19])

• Ryan Seacrest:
  “You need somebody that can play hardball with them.” ([50:19])

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Key Takeaways

• Best NFL Offenses: A fiercely debated topic with differing opinions on which teams truly possess the strongest offensive lineups for the upcoming season.

• NFLPA Challenges: Significant leadership and financial issues plaguing the players' association, calling for urgent reforms to better serve the interests of NFL players.

• Personal Insights: Both hosts leverage their rich NFL backgrounds to provide depth and authenticity to the discussion, underscoring the real-world implications of the topics at hand.

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Note: This summary excludes all advertisements, intros, outros, and non-content sections to focus solely on the substantive discussions between Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco.

Transcript

[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Hello ladies and gentlemen and thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I am your favorite unc, Shannon Sharp and my partner and co host, Mr. Miami Vice himself, Liberty City's own Bengals ring of fame artery Pro Bowler all pro. That's Chad Ochocinko Johnson and he's iced out tonight. Ladies and gentlemen. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. And guys, go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed. Tell family, friends and loved ones to do likewise. And you know what? We want to thank you because without you, we can't do anything. Yes, OO and I and everybody here at the Nightcap family greatly, greatly appreciate your support, your continued support and your loyalty. Your eyes, your ears and your word of mouth. We can't thank you enough. Thank you again. Please make sure you check out Shea by laportier. We do have it in stock now. If you can't find it in a city or state near you, order it online and we'll ship it directly to your door. You best believe we're coming to a city and a state near you. I'm going to be back in the market in the next week to 10 days and I can't wait to meet and greet you guys and see you, see all you guys faces again. But premium bsop, best on the market. Don't take my word for it. Try for yourself. I promise you you will not be disappointed. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Go check out my media company page on all of its platforms. Shay Shay Media and my clothing company 84. With 84 being spelled out, the link is pinned in the chat. Supplies are limited and once they're gone, they're gone. So please grab yours while supplies last. CBS Sports give their NFL triplet rankings. The Bengals Ocho are number one thanks to Joe Burrow, running back Chase Browns and Jamar Chase. The Philadelphia Eagles are number two. Jalen Hurts, Saquon Barkley, A.J. brown. Baltimore Ravens are number three, Lamar Jackson, Derrick Henry, Zay Flowers. Detroit Lions are number four, Jared Goff, Jameer Gibbs, Armand Ross, St. Brown. And rounding out the top five is the Kansas City Chiefs, Patrick Mahomes, Isaiah Pacheco and Rashi Rice. Oh, okay, we've got 10. Buffalo was number six, Josh Allen, James Cook, Khalil Shakir, Rams number seven, Matthew Stafford, Kyron Williams, Puka Nakua, the 49ers thanks to Brock Purdy, Christian McCaffrey, George Kittle. Number nine, Baker Mayfield Buck Irving, Bucky Irving, Mike Evans. Rounding out the top 10, Dak Prescott, Javante Williams, and CD Lamb. Man Ocho.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Any objections? You like it?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah. I mean, listen, as much as I love my Bengals, there's no reason we should be number one. There's no reason we should be number one. Number one should be the Philadelphia Eagles.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I. I would.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, listen, number one should be the Philadelphia Eagles. Listen, I love Chase Brown. Obviously, Joe does what Joe does. Uno does what he does. It's not even close. Especially. And obviously, and not. Not to be rude, not to be disrespectful, but where were the Ravens again?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ravens was three.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I would put the Ravens in front of. I would put the Ravens in front of. In front of the Bengals as well.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hell, you could make a case. Detroit should go in front of the Bengals.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Who was the three. Who was the three? For the. For the.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jerry Goff, Jameer Gibbs, and Amon Ross Brown.

[Ryan Seacrest]

And listen. And that's interchangeable over there. You can go Gibbs over and Gummy Williams. Yeah. So, I mean, if anything, to be fair, I'd put the Bengals maybe at 4, maybe 5.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho, this is why I agree with you. And I'm saying yes, sir. Because I think the gap between the running backs.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Is greater than the. The. The distance between Chase and, say, Almond Ross. St. Brown.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Or Chase and A.J. brown.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Or Chase and. And. And. And. And. And Zay Flowers. That's. That's. That's why I think Bingo should be. Look, and there's not a gap. There's not that big of a gap. If there is a gap right. Between Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow.

[Ryan Seacrest]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now, if you want to say, okay, Lamar Jalen Hurst doesn't throw the ball, but that's not their offense.

[Ryan Seacrest]

It's not their game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But Chase, Chase. Chase Brown with the running back position, and you're talking about Derrick Henry, talking about Saquon Barkley, talking about Jir Gibbs. N. Man.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, as much as I love my Bengals, I'm fair. I'm gonna be fair, and I'm gonna be real.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You gotta be.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I'm gonna be fair, and I'm gonna be realistic. But.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now you talk about Khalil Shakir and the receiving position. I think that's. Come on, now. Chase. That's like Chase. That's like Brown with Saquon. Derrick Henry, Jabir Gibbs, when you talk about Chase and Khalil Shakir.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now. Now we're on to something.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

McCaffrey. It's kind of hard to have 49ers in any higher for the simple fact of health of Christian McCaffrey.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah. Y. Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I like the Bucks made it. The Bucks should have made it.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Irving been sensational Baker plate extremely. Since he's been in Tampa. Baker Mayfield has played extremely well. Let's give credit where credit is due. I have no problem that he's found a home. He's found someone that believed in him and give him an opportunity and he gets to be maker Baker Mayfield. The Baker Mayfield that we saw at Oklahoma. We get to see this guy now.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The Cowboys. I I don't really have a problem. I don't have a. What was the running back before Javante Williams got there?

[Ryan Seacrest]

I well, your guess is good as mine.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Oh, Rico Dowdle.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. I look okay 10 okay. Cowboys Dak. But Dax coming off an injury. Also Javante Williams was now he's another year removed from that knee injury. He didn't play very well his last year in Denver. We understand CD. Why CDs there.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, absolutely. But we'll talk about that later on when the season get around.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. But yeah, I agree with you, Ocho. The Bengals is just a mere fact that Chase the gap between Saquon, Derrick Henry is a bigger gap between Jamar Chase, AJ Brown, Jamar Chase and Jay Flowers.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And so with that being said. Yeah. And I get it. Joe Burrow had a historic he led the league and passing touchdowns last year. He led the league in passing yards. And I understand Chase Chase won the triple crown.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But how many yards did Chase Chase Brown have? Cause One guy had 2,000.

[Ryan Seacrest]

That's a good question.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Not many did you and another guy had 1921.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And Jameer Gibbs, even after splitting carries, probably had 13, 1400 yards.

[Ryan Seacrest]

That's crazy. Imagine.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So I think the gap with the running back gap. There's a bigger gap between the running back than it is receivers Saquon Barkley, Derrick Henry, J.R. gibbs and Chase Brown.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And there is between Jamar Chase, zay flowers.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

A.J. brown and Amon Rossin Brown.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's just me now, Chad. I mean, y' all can have at it. Y' all can chop it up. Y' all can agree or disagree with Ocho and I said but had I think the Eagles, I would pro I would put the Eagles one. I would put the Ravens two. Now three and three. Now I'm really having to think about three. And that's between Detroit and Cincinnati. Ocho, that's just me.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Honestly, Because Detroit, and this is no disrespect to Chase Brown. Good, good running back. I'm putting Detroit at three simply because they had that double headed monster. You could just pick who. Who you want to go with, whatever your purpose may be. That goddamn Jameer Gibbs and Aman Ron. Golf is special. Yes, it's special.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How many yards did Chase Brown have last year? 990. Okay. He was 10 from a thousand. One guy had 2000, the other guy had 19. 21.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. Yeah. Look, the bill. I, I don't. I don't really have a problem with anybody else that's on this list because we looking down. Okay, we look down. Who else could. Could. The Texans.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

C.J. stroud, Joe Mix.

[Ryan Seacrest]

That's. That's a good one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. Jacksonville. Tank Bigsby. Brian Thomas Jr. Okay. You'll lead Trevor Lawrence. Okay. Take him off. They got a triplet, but it doesn't, it doesn't deserve to make the top 10.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. What about Washington? Oh, Jane Daniels, Terry McClure.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Brian Robinson. Brian Robinson.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Brian Robinson. Yeah, they was 12.

[Ryan Seacrest]

That's. That, that's. That's fair. That's fair.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The Dolphins. You got hn, you got reek. You got tua.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. Nah, not in front of the Cowboys. You don't think, you don't think in.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Front of the crowd. In front of the Cowboys.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, that's what I'm. Yeah. No, I don't think they should be a top five. But I'm just saying.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Okay, okay, okay, okay. I thought you were saying top five.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Commanders nor the other team should be top five. Because although H ain't expect. No, the commanders can't. Because Brian Robinson. Let me see. Would I take Brian Robinson over Chase Brown? Hell yeah. But I'm not taking it over Saquon. I'm not taking over there. I'm not taking them over Gibbs. Hell no.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah. Hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm not taking it there. And, And I'm not. And I'm not taking. You know, I love Terry McClure, but I'm not taking them over Zay Flowers or AJ or I'm in. Rob, not. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Slow down, slow down. You gotta.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You take him over A.J. brown.

[Ryan Seacrest]

You hold on. You say you're not taking Terry McLaurin over St. Brown?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, I don't think I'd take him over Saint Brown. Because if you know what, Elcho? Let me tell you why it's hard. Because One. One play specifically outside. The other is mainly inside. And so you look at amon Ra. Ahman. Ra had what, 100, probably 15 catches?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He's. He's customarily always over 100 catches because he's the slot. So what was it? What was his numbers? I'm in. Raw. I'm gonna look. You look up. I'm in. Rob, look up Terry McClure.

[Ryan Seacrest]

That's. That's. That's interesting. I. I know. I know. T. Mac. I'm calling T. Mac. I'm gonna call him T. Mac. I can't call him Scary Terry right now. I ain't calling him Scary Terry until they pay him today.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, Was second in catches, right. Fifth in yards, third in touchdowns.

[Ryan Seacrest]

What he had in. What he had in yours by what, 12, 63.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How many catches, second in catches? 115. God, yes.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Oh, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Them.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Boy, ain't they be 115 passes?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, that's 150. Catcher. He probably had 145 to 150 targets.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, man, I'm trying. I'm. I'm. I wish. I wish I was able to do the math. If you take my best season, whatever it might have been, and you did the numbers based on yards per catch, I think my highest. My highest total season is catches is like 97. If I had 115 catches, I wonder what my numbers would look like.

[Shannon Sharpe]

There's only a handful of guys going to have that many catches with their deep, crazy. You got to look. So you got to look at somebody like a Moss.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, are you looking at. I mean, I'm talking about a speed guy. A guy that's. That's outside is catching the balls like that, man, they gonna be 16, 1700 yards or. Joe. Because if you think about it, you averaging 15 yards of catch, you average your best season, when you had 1600 yards or high fifteens, you was averaging 15 yards of catch. So just imagine 110, 115, 120, 30 catches.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Imagine. Imagine this during that time, me, TJ Hoosh, Chris Henry. Imagine if we had what they have implemented in everybody's game plan today. Those little quick screens, those little bubble screens, those little quick passes where, you know, they get it in your hands and let you do what you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, only a handful of teams running that. We started adopting that late, like my last year or two in Denver.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But prior to that, the only team that really did that was the Colts.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah. What about the Rams? What about the Rams? That greatest show ramped.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The ramp. Ramped up. The Rams kind of started it right, with Isaac, with. They would do it, they would do it with Marshall Falk. They would put Marshall Falk out and be no motion and throw it to him. Call some of those Isaac, Bruce. And then now everybody just, they'll just raise up and just throw the fault. The guy, the guy bubble, he'll be in the slot and he'll bubble back and they'll pop it to it. But it's a different game now, Ocho. We had our time. We, we, we play, we played how we played because I can assure you. Yeah, I heard Ozzy and Kellen and all the guys like, man, I sure wish we threw the ball like y' all threw it today. I'm like, oh, you think we throw it? Hell, I don't know if y' all seen Denver's offense, right? Had a whole lot of throwing going on.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, but look, Bengals 1, Eagles 2, Baltimore 3. Detroit 4, Kansas City 5. I would go Eagles 1, Baltimore 2. I agree with you. I would go Detroit 3, Kansas City 4. Not Kansas City, Cincinnati.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, I was gonna say, I ain't putting Pacheco them in front of Cincinnati.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, hell no. Yeah, that's. That's my toss up. My toss up is do I put Detroit three in Cincy four or do I put Cincy three and leave Detroit at four? But two and, but the Eagles and, and Baltimore should be onew.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Well, hold on three. I'm, I'm doing Detroit at three and I'm putting my Bengals. Bengals four.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And that's what I'm saying. That's what my toss up is.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Okay, okay, okay, listen, that's not even a, that's not even a toss up for me. That's a no brainer. Wow, that's a no brainer on my end.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But me, no brainer is Eagles at one, Baltimore at two.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, Cowboys. But you know, we talked about Washington, we talked about. Hell, well, no, they ain't got no quarterback. And I think. I know Atlanta, Atlanta didn't really have the quarterback situation because I can't put that kind of stock because I like Atlanta's running back and I like Drake London.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, Bijan is nice. Drake London, nice.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I like, I like Michael Pittman Jr. I like Jonathan Taylor, but I'm uncertain about their quarterback position. You see what I'm saying? Oo, yeah, I'm not sure about Minnesota. I know Jetta, I know Jones, but Who's the quarterback?

[Ryan Seacrest]

J.J. mcCarthy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't seen him throw not one NFL pass we just.

[Ryan Seacrest]

We just saw with. Why am I drawing a blank on the quarterback?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you talking about for Minnesota?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah. From last year. Why am I drawing a blank in Seattle now?

[Jacob Goldstein]

What?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Sam Darnold.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Sam Darnold. Listen, we saw Sam Darnold in New York. Yeah, okay, we saw Sam Darnold. He was somewhere else before he went to Minnesota.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He's with the Jets. He's with San Francisco.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Bingo. We saw what he did with the Minnesota Vikings last year. Historic run. Historic season for him individually.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Ryan Seacrest]

So what you think JJ McCarthy gonna come in and do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you gotta.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Jordan Addison's still there. Justin Jefferson is still there. He gonna be all right. He can slang it now. You ain't really got to do much when you're. When you're a quarterback like that. Even it's gonna be your first year playing. You're not a rookie. You're going into your second year. But what's around you is so great. All you have to do is just facilitate the ball and don't make any mistakes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's. That's. But see, that's the thing. You see how you have to play. You talk about, don't make any mistakes. Sam. Sam Darnold had a historic season.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now, the thing is. Plus he has some season. He was seasoned. He understood this offense because it's a very similar offense to what they run in San Francisco.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So it's going to be interesting to see. But I understand why they didn't put him up there. Because I understand Jones. I understand Jetta.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I'm not sure about the quarterback position.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm. I'm just not. So, I mean, that's fair. Not the 49ers, the Chargers. What about the Chargers? Lad McConkey, Justin Herbert, they got Najee Harris.

[Ryan Seacrest]

But they do have Najee Harris now. That's right. That's right. I. I hope Quentin Johnson has a great year this season. Quinn. Quentin. Quentin. Quentin Johnson.

[Shannon Sharpe]

David Montgomery says Detroit Lions are tired of being close to winning the Super Bowls. And he declared 2025 season year of reckoning after a franchise best 15 wins in the regular season. In 2024, the top seeded Lions fell short of their super bowl goal with a loss at home against the Commanders in the playoffs. Everybody's tired of being close. It's cool to be close at first, but you don't want to get comfortable being close all the time. That's not what you want to be known for, especially when you know you've got the guys, you got the team you want to finish it. So this year for us, the year of the reckoning and the year that we choose that we need to finish.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Do, do me, do me a small favor. Let me make sure I'm hearing this correctly. Just bring that back to me. You don't got, don't read the whole thing. Just give me, give me, give me, give me, give me bullet points.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He said he's tired that, he says everybody basically in the Detroit organization, right, are tired of being close. It's cool to be close at first because when you have such a, a dormant, you've been dormant as far as winning for a long time, right?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Long time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't want to get comfortable. So we don't want to be a. 15 wins, 14 wins. Oh, we were close. We won a division.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He's saying that's not good enough.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We got the guys, we got the makeup, we got the coaches. Definitely do get the job done. This year 20, 25 will be the year of reckoning.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I like it, I like it. I like it a lot. Even with you losing, losing Ben Johnson, losing Aaron Glenn, you still have the same players. The players are still there. Now I'm not sure do we take scheme and one thing about it, when it comes to scheme, when you have certain coaches and the scheme changes and the players are still the same, I think they can still execute the same way. It's still the same players regardless of what the scheme is. They can still play that goddamn. Brian Branch still plays for the Detroit Lions. Jerry Goff and Amon, Rod Montgomery and Gibbs, they're all still there. Laporte, they all still on that offense. So whoever's calling the plays shouldn't have any type of any backsliding from an offensive standpoint. The defense should be good just as it was last year. Aiden Hutchinson coming back from injury, hopefully come back with that motor and that intensity that he played with impression the quarterback. So I'm looking for them to do exactly what was said now. I, I, I'm not, I'm not sure what's going to happen once, once we get to the playoffs. That's a different ball game because you turn the goddamn ball over five times in the playoffs, you're going home regardless. You are, you're going home regardless. No matter what you say.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm trying to think the team that have lost coordinators and still keep it going. The only team I can really think about is the Patriots. Well, ah, because it didn't matter. You lost Charlie Weiss, we won. Still going the Only the only one you didn't win with was Bill o'. Brien. But you did get to the Super Bowl. You lost, remember? What was that? They ended up losing to the Giants.

[Ryan Seacrest]

That was my year.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ryan Seacrest]

That was my year. Yeah, I think. But the key, the key component to what you just said is the coordinators are changing, but the one centerpiece that actually matters, the king.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ryan Seacrest]

On that chess table, is 12. As long as 12 were there, it didn't matter who was calling the plays.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's basically I looking at Jerry. Golf is 12, though.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Okay. Yeah, you know what? You Right. But the resurgence in the winning and in the winning that Detroit is having. Jared Golf is responsible for that, though. Jared Golf is responsible for that, especially the team that they put around him. So he might not be 12, but he's good enough to get it done.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

The 49ers lost Mike Shanahan to us, Ray Rose to Eagles, and they won the Super bowl in 95. But they had Steve, they had Jerry, they had Ricky Waters, they had prime, they had. You go back and look at that roster.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You're like, okay, I see why they won.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, listen, my grandma, Steve Young was the mvp. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jerry was Jerry. Ricky Waters. We saw Ricky Waters have how many touchdowns Ricky Waters have in the Super Bowl? People don't realize how good Ricky Waters was.

[Ryan Seacrest]

He was nice.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He was nice because he was in. He was in my, our division in Seattle. And I think, I think the thing that hurt him is that he uttered a phrase when he went to Philly. They were losing.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And it threw a ball call across the middle. And he didn't. He short armed it.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And they asked him after the game, he's like, for who? For what? And you know, they, they, they, you know, the voters kind of held that against him. Yeah, but he could play.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He could do it all. He could run the ball between the tackles. He can get outside he could damn sure could catch it.

[Ryan Seacrest]

You know, Ricky Waters was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He was nice.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Ricky. Ricky Waters reminds me of Eric Dickinson in a sense. He ran up the upright.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Running.

[Ryan Seacrest]

He. He ran upright. He knees was real high. Yeah, he was. He was not. He was sweet with it now. Ricky was sweet.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Yeah. Ricky was the 49ers. Seattle.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Then he ended up going to. To Philly.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, I. I don't even. I don't even remember Ricky Waters in Philly. I remember Seattle and the 49ers, though, clear as day.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't remember him in Philly?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Nah.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Yeah.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Not at all. Hey, remember. Remember. Speaking of 49, remember Roger Craig? Since we talk about running back. Roger Craig.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, Roger. Was he from Nebraska? Yeah, he had. He was the first one. I mean, you saw with that. Those high knees.

[Ryan Seacrest]

High knees. Yeah. Hey, Very, very. What's the word?

[Shannon Sharpe]

God, he was the first. Thousand. Thousand, rush 4,000 and pack 4,000. And then Marshall did it, I think, in 99. And then C. Mac did it.

[Ryan Seacrest]

We'll see Mac in Carolina.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Christian McCaffrey. Yeah.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Okay. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. Yeah.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Okay. Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you're. You're right. Oh, you know, look, everybody says you have to take steps. You know what I'm saying? Oh, there very few times that the first time you get to the playoffs and you go win it.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Normally, you have to have some setbacks. You have to get. You have to have scars. You have to get hardened.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And. And know what it takes that when the rubber needs to meet the road, you don't bubble up.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So they're saying, hold on. This. This is our time.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Right. You.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Theoretically, you should have won it the year before. You had them. You had the 49ers on the rope.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

On the road. That was the one, Ocho.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That you let slip away. Those are the ones that. That hurt.

[Ryan Seacrest]

You know what?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because ain't no guarantee people like, oh, yeah, they'll be back next, bro.

[Ryan Seacrest]

No, I know. Guarantee.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's not. You don't get. You don't get to start. You don't get to pick up where you left off.

[Ryan Seacrest]

You got to start all over.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All over.

[Ryan Seacrest]

You got to start all over. You know what I do like about the Lions, though? Where I think they will always be in contention. I think they'll always be in contention every year simply because of the coach. Simply because of Dan Campbell. That's one thing. Or. It's one thing to have the players, to have the. The positions and the skill sets. You got your quarterback in place. Dan Campbell. His willingness, not being scared, willing to drop his cojones, willing to go forward in certain situations where other coaches wouldn't. Dan Campbell saying, you know what? F analytics, F stats, F all that. I'm gonna play game winning football and go for it because I believe in my guys. Offensively, I believe them on. And defensively, I really, really like those dudes in Detroit, man, that run through a wall for Dan Campbell, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep, yep. But it's tough. I remember. And we went to the AFC championship game in 91.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Lost 10, seven to Buffalo. Man, we got up to a great start the next year, Ocho. I mean, I think at one point in time, we might have been seven and one. Oh, that was a ball, man. We lost seven straight games. John got hurt. We lost seven straight games.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, who is the backup man?

[Shannon Sharpe]

We splitting quarterbacks. Tommy Maddox and Sean Moore.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Wait, Tommy, Matt. Tommy Maddox was nice. Tommy played in Pittsburgh, Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He wasn't nice when he was with us in Denver, though. I'm sorry. He wasn't nice when he was. Yeah, we, we missed that part, right? No, he became nice after he started having to sell insurance.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. They say, you know, you become motivated, you know, a broken heart, an empty wallet, you know, and an empty stomach is tremendous motivation.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I got you. I got you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When you're in the NFL and all of a sudden, two years later, you're not in the NFL.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Ooh.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you're selling insurance, be it car or homeowners, a life.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Life.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man. If I get another opportunity, Ocho, I'm not gonna squander this one. And he made the most of it. He ended up getting hurt. And then Ben came in and the, as they say, history.

[Ryan Seacrest]

History.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I think, if I'm not mistaken, he did win comeback player of the year. And then, I don't know, he. Well, Coach Reeves got this from Coach Landry. Coach Landry used to rotate quarterbacks, Roger Stallback and Craig Morton. So I, I, I've seen rotating running backs, rotate tight ends, rotate receivers, but how the hell you1 quarterback come in, bring the player and run it. Then he go back out. They bring another quarterback in.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I know. Quarterback.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think it's, I think, I think we won. I think we were like when John got hurt, Ocho. I think we were like 71, 72. And lost that when he got back, huh?

[Ryan Seacrest]

And lost seven straight.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, boy, that quarterback position is, is, is something special.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Key to everything.

[Ryan Seacrest]

It's something special.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And then Dan ends up getting fired. Wade comes in, we make the playoffs in 93.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We missing 94. Wade gets fired. Dan comes in. I think we go 8 and 8 and then next year we, we go 13 and 3. We lose the divisional round to Jacksonville, right? We win the next two years. That's still the most painful loss of all the losses. And hey, I've taken my share of Ls, but that's the most painful loss that I've. That I've had in a. I still, I, I, I. Well, I know how we lost either. How'd you lose? I ease it easy. I mean, they were, Ocho, dad just been a team. Dad just been a franchise. They had just become a franchise in 95.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah. Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

95. Yeah. And here they like and they, they roll up in there and it's all on me. I played terrible that day.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Dropped the two point conversion. Dropped the third down. Damn, I was some slow man. That's on me. That's on me, Ocho. That's on me, man. Ocho, you know you, Ocho, you know, I had this shallow cross, Ocho. I had to be. I stood about the line, right? So you know, you know, I do. I like. And then I was like, right? And John, and John threw it. So in the process of me catching it like this, right? Moving, hit my knee.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Ah, Punched it out, it flew up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Lord have mercy. Cause I could hit the cone. I've been hitting that cone on it and be gone. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Damn. Hey, that's, hey, that's one of the worst, that's one of the worst feelings, man. To drop a ball in the middle of the game and hit a whole. And the whole crowd say, oh.

[Shannon Sharpe]

OO. Cause I had just came off O. I just came off one of the great seasons, you know, 80 catches, over a thousand yards, double digit touchdowns. Mike sat me out the last game and said, look, I want you to get healthy, right? I was like, man, oh, y' all feeling so good too. I just like, oh. I had caught a touchdown earlier, Ocho, right? So I would feel I was feeling good.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you know how it is, man. You drop a pass and then all of a sudden you getting your own. Damn.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You're like, oh. And once I dropped that one, man, but that one, that one, that one hurt. Because then, you know, we went on a streak. We won like, what? We won seven straight. And then I went to Baltimore. We won four straight. And then we won the next game. We beat Miami the next year. But I just go to show you, Ocho, man, we well, I'm in ball. I'm in Baltimore. In the first year, you know, we. You know, we know we had historically great defense in 2000.

[Ryan Seacrest]

It was all right. It was all right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You look at the show. Hey, they gave 165 points in 16 games.

[Ryan Seacrest]

But I'm boy, 165.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And when you tack on the other four playoff games, right, they still. They gave up. They still didn't give up more than 190 points in 20 games, they gave up less than 190 points.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, hey, that. Man, that defense, you know, we were cool.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But Ocho, the next year, yeah, we make the playoffs, so we go down to Miami. We go down there early. Guys at the beach, they got jet skis. I'm like. And Brian. And Brian don't say nothing. Don't. Yo, hold on.

[Ryan Seacrest]

It's a playoff game. It's a playoff game or regular.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hold up. Them boy down in Miami on Jet skis before a playoff game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. Now, mind you, we ain't got no cur. We ain't got no room check. I mean, Brian ain't really have nothing. Brian's like, I'm gonna treat you like me. I said, no, don't treat them like me. We didn't. We didn't treat them like. We didn't treat them like her. We didn't make sure we locked the doors on there.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, but, yeah, no curfew, Ocho.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We went to the Super Bowl. They didn't have curfew or room check.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Y' all won the game, though.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, Ocho. I mean, Brian must have knew something I didn't know, hey, because ain't no way in hell Mike Shanahan. We had. We had. What was it, 11? Nah, we first got that. We first got there because we got that on Sunday. We used to get down on a Sunday, Ocho. Yeah, so it's like one o', clock, and then Monday night you got 12, and then Tuesday night. Because Tuesday night you going into practice, starting Wednesday, I think it was 11. But. Yeah, yeah, it was. It was. It was totally two different type situations. Yeah, Denver and Baltimore. But, hey, they. They did what they need. Hey, we won the game.

[Ryan Seacrest]

So, yeah, that's all that. That's all that matters.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But it just goes. It just go. It just goes to show you, like, I knew with the Giants that if we didn't turn the ball over, they couldn't move the ball, right? The only way they. The only way they were going to beat us if they got a scooping score or Pick six. As far as, like, moving the ball, I'm talking about, like, handing it off or throwing it.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Right? It ain't happening.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Go back, pull up that stat line from that Super Bowl. Oo. I want. I'm. I'm. I'm g. Show you the stat line of what. What they did when they had the ball. I mean, it was cra. You won't ever see a stat. I don't know if you'll ever see a stat line like this in the super bowl. It was 2000. The Super Bowl. Yeah, the Super Bowl. 35.

[Ryan Seacrest]

They. It was that bad? Hey, that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't even think they had 200 yards of total offense.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, that defense, man, was something serious.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, man. Oh, my goodness.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I don't think people understand. There was woke. There was no weakness. If there was a weakness, y' all did one hell of a job hiding it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, well, the thing was, is that you couldn't run, so they made you one dimensional very early.

[Ryan Seacrest]

You got.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And because they didn't have to blitz, so they didn't have to sacrifice the back end, right? So now you got McQuarrie. You could. You took Rob Burnett and kicked them down inside. You put Peter Bower on one side, you put Mike McQuarrie on the other side, and then you rotated Keith Washington. You had Jelly Roll. You had. I mean, we. We had a.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Boy. Y' all were loaded.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold on. No, I needed, like, the. The play by play.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Who was it? Who was the DB? Who was the DBs there? Who was on? Dwayne Star.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We had Chris McAllister and Dwayne Starks.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Dwayne Starks. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And then Bailey was our slot. Bailey. And Corey Harris was our slot.

[Ryan Seacrest]

He was a nickel.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, Boucher.

[Ryan Seacrest]

What? Boucher had. What Boucher ass at, man, I ain't seen Boucher in a minute, Ocho.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yo, they had 178 yards of total offense with four picks.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Jesus.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, Ocho, this is the Giants. Drive, punt, punt. Okay. 5 yards punt, 1 yard punt, 18 yards punt, 6 yards punt, 2 yards punt, 1 yards punt, interception, punt, interception, interception, punt, interception, kick return, touchdown, punt, punt, fumble, punt. In the game. 11 points.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, if you were to. If you were to tell somebody. If you were some. To tell somebody that stat line, right? And then tell them, the teams that were playing, they wouldn't even think that was the NFL game. They think it was some. Some. Some Pop Warner or some Little League stuff. Man, that was. Man, that's ridiculous.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This NFL game, Ocho, the longest drive they had was eight. Was nine plays, three plays, three plays, five plays, three plays, three plays,. Two plays, nine plays, three plays, five plays,. Three plays, one play, three plays, three plays, no play. Three plays, seven plays.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Listen, that, that 2000 Raven defense, man, them boy was something special. Boy, I, I, I, I ain't gonna lie. I'm not even on front. Boy, they were something special.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oho. I think they had in the first 12 possessions, they got two first downs. Let me take that back. First down.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Okay? Hey, well, that's funny.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That boy, they got one first down. My bad. I think they got one first down in the first 12. In the first. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. And the first 12 possessions. Hold on, no. 1. They might have got something by penalty.

[Ryan Seacrest]

That's crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because if you think of Ocho, they, they only got to me. They wouldn't. It was, it was tough sled. They got 5 yards, 1 yards, 18 yards, 6 yards, 2 yards, 1 yard, 10 yards. They had 9 plays, 50 yards. They had 3 plays, 43 yards. Then they have 5 plays, 6 yards, 3 plates, 8 yard, 1 play, no yard. It was picked off. Then they had three plays, no yards, three plays, minus four yards. Fumble. Three plays, four yards, seven plays, 22 yards.

[Ryan Seacrest]

But that don't even sound. It don't even sound.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now, the defense themselves didn't get scored on. Yeah, they ran a kickback. They didn't score on the defense. That defense that Postseason gave up one touchdown. That's in four games. In four games, Chad, y' all not listening. In four playoff games, that defense gave up one touchdown.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Oh, that's, that's unheard of.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They gave up three points to the Broncos. They gave up 10 points to Tennessee, three points to the Raiders. The defense gave up no points, zero. So in four playoff games, the defense actually gave up 16 points.

[Ryan Seacrest]

That's. Oh, you know, you know, we, we'll never see a defense like that again.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You never see that again.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Never see a defense like that again.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, not like that.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, where you can't run. Where you can't run the ball at all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, Ocho, in 16 games, they didn't give up a thousand yards rushing. So if you combine everybody that ran the football that year, in 16 games, it didn't come up to a thousand yards.

[Ryan Seacrest]

That's crazy. Oh, that's, that's crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, I'm sorry, Giants.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

O.com Ocho More changes are coming to the leadership of the NFL Players Association.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I'm right here.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Chief Strategist Officer JC Treader has resigned from his post amid scrutiny over hiring former NFLPA Executive director Lloyd Howell Howell. Excuse me. Who resigned on July 18th. PMAC Pat McAfee didn't mince words about the NFLPA leadership following strip club allegations. The NFLPA has been led by people who could much rather be known than the heads of the NFLPA than actual work and act like they are heads of the nflpa. These dudes think they are celebrities. These dudes think they're powerful. These dudes hire all of their friends and overpay them with players money. Then these dudes flex while using and abusing all the connections that the players and the league have worked their asses off their entire lives for and act like sanctimonious heroes through it all. Ocho, we kind of touched on this a little bit. We did, we did early.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This all happened. Pablo Torre. Is Pablo still working with espn? He has his own thing.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And he, he's a lawyer. He's a Harvard grad. Very smart. I've never met the guy, but just watching him, listening to him talk, He's a very smart guy, very shrewd. And he went digging and he found some information.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That about a judge that said, yeah, they kind of, they, the, the owners and, and there was writing between Jeff Pash and I, I, I think Roger Goodell. There was a memo saying we got to get these, we got to get this guaranteed money down because it's getting outrageous, blah, blah, blah. There was a smoking gun. Now the NFL do a better job. They've gone underground. With that being said, Lloyd. Lloyd Howell was in trouble. Now, I don't know how you get a job at the NFLPA head right when you work with a company that a private equity firm that your job is to go try to find investors to buy NFL teams. And if I'm not mistaken, I could be wrong. But I think like if you're at the head of the, if you're like a players association, so like you're the president and that's what Jason Treader was like. After a year or two, you leave the game, you gone, you're done. You got nothing else to do with it. But somehow he got hired as a strategist. So once all this stuff started coming out.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It was just a matter of time. Everybody got. You gotta.

[Ryan Seacrest]

You know, gotta blow it up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Listen, you. You have. You have no choice but to blow it up, and you might as well bring it home where it belongs.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, right.

[Ryan Seacrest]

You right here to me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They. They messed this thing up.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When they didn't hire Troy because Troy sat right next to. What's this guy's name?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Demaris.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. Hell no. He should. They should never hired him.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Gene.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, but see, it. It shifted because Gene and Paul Tagney Boo. Had a great working relationship.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yes. Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It was a partnership. Then once. Once Paul stepped down, it's funny, he and I came in a year together. We left together because up until that point, Pete Roselle was the Jet. Was the. Was the commissioner. And then Commissioner Tagliabu came in, and then I left, and then Roger Goodell come in. And now there's no longer a partnership. Straight. The partnership is between the owners and the networks.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Those are the partnerships.

[Ryan Seacrest]

And.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't think the owners wanted a partnership anymore.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They didn't. And the first chance they got, what did they do? They locked y' all ass out.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And they say we want a bigger piece of the pie.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Back.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, but listen, this is what we got to do. I'm telling you, you need somebody that can play hardball with them. You need somebody that's gonna go in there, that's going to be for the players, that's going to be for the players and gonna get what's right. Because as a former player, you normally. You normally do us justice. You know, I am. I'm tell you like it is. I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say some of the things that people are thinking that they're not going to say in public. Yeah, we want lifetime benefits. Huh? We want to get rid of the franchise tag. Even though you may see it as. As. As a way to buy yourself time, it also is a way that you. It is disrespectful to players because you're basically saying we don't really value you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't bought time.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Come on, now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

First of all, Ocho, normally if somebody's on that franchise tag, somebody gets to the franchise tag. They've already played four or five years, so they've already. They've already bought you time. You should know. If you don't know what you have after four or five years, so you mean to tell me you need another year?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Come on now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. So what you're doing, you're basically betting a year, you're betting something's bad is going to happen. I'm going to have a bad year, I'm going to have an injury before I have to give you a long term deal.

[Ryan Seacrest]

That is exactly what, that's what you're doing. That's what they bet. That's what they betting on. That's what they betting on. That's what that franchise, they try to make it seem like it's a good thing. Oh, we gonna pay. And, and, and what they told us.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oo, it was kind of like the Bird exemption, right? Where you could sign your players, you know what I'm saying? Because you wanted to keep, you wanted to keep a John Elway with the Broncos, you wanted to keep a Damarino with the such, you know, with the, the Dolphins, you wanted to keep your top notch players, your Emmett Smith, your Bruce Smith, you wanted to keep those guys there, right? But they abused it and now they're like, well, now we just, what we gonna do? We gonna slap you with the tag or they would threaten you with the tag, Right?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Mm.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And so the problem is, Ocho, is that although look, I know you know, you, you semi serious and semi joking. The problem that anybody had that's going to have when they come in and take over the NFLPA is not like mlb, it's not like basketball. Because when Marvin Miller, who is the head of baseball.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When they say we're gonna shut it down, they shut it down. When the NBA, Pa. When they say we gonna shut it down, they shut it down.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I'm glad you said that. Glad you said so.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And the problem and, and so look, everybody, everybody wasn't making, wasn't going to make LeBron's money or Steph Curry's money.

[Ryan Seacrest]

To be able to hold up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But in order for you to get the money up, right, what they did to him, Ocho, they sold him a bill of goods. They say, hey man, y' all making, y' all work hard. And then here's a rookie that's never thrown a pass. Remember Sam Bradford was the highest paid player in the NFL. Got that 20 throwing a pass.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Got that 20. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, he got 50.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Oh, it was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He got 50 million.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Guaranteed.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So he was, he was the highest paid player and never played it down.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Down. Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, let me tell you what the owners did. The owner said, we want to play players that have been established. We want to play the veteran players that money and make those guys that's coming into league, make them earn it.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And the players, yeah, yeah, we go get that money and guess what they do. Sooner you get to a certain age, they cut you.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now they got the rookies on a whale wage scale. And you don't get to get to the back end to get the bag. You see how they did it on show?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You see how they did it? They got us, they got you. So now we got the rookies on capped here and on the back end the van thinking, man, I'm. Hey, I'm gonna play. Blah, blah, blah. Nah, gone. So now basically, you gotta live here.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, that's why. That's what they listen, that's why that first three years is so important. Maximizes as much as you can in that first three years. And what's guaranteed, what am I really getting outside the assignment bonus? What am I really touching them first three years? Because after that, after that, that first three years. Unless. Unless you that. Unless you that boy, man, listen here, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They already plotting. How can we get out from under this?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Absolutely. Listen, it's a business. I think that's. I think that's one of the. One of the things no players, they want, they tell.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, it's a business for them.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Oh, that's what I was trying to say.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But see, but the ownership has convinced the fans that if you don't take what they give you, you selfish and you're not about winning. Hey, bro, y' all ain't one in a hundred years.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So now all of a sudden, because I won't take the penis that you're offering now, I don't. I don't care nothing about winning.

[Ryan Seacrest]

See, and then you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

First thing they throw. Because I've heard some people say, I know, talk to some agents and people, the first name they throw up. Guess who they throw up. Guess who name they throw up. Ocho, give you one guess. Tom Brady.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, but you have to understand, Tom Brady was in a special situation. Everybody else in the NFL is not married or dating someone that makes more money than the actual player himself. She was making 33, 40 million a year.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Of course, less money. Why you can't be like Tom Brady. Tom took less money in order to win.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Okay, well, I tell you what.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you know what? I'll tell them. And when it came right down to it, they did Tom Brady like they did everybody else.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Come on now. Come on, it's Sunday. Go ahead and Go ahead and preach.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm not, at the end of the day, as loyal as Tom Brady was.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

As long as he had played up under what he should have rightfully gotten, they still showed him the door. So at the end of the day, no matter what I do. So you know what I know at the end of the day, you're looking to get rid of me, but I'm gonna tax your pockets. You say, hey, while I'm here, I'm not the gm. My job is to play. Now, if you want me to help you construct your salary cap, that's gonna cost you extra. But in the meantime, since that's not my job, my job is to tackle. My job is to catch. My job is to run, block whatever the case may be, or on the football field, my job is to. Not to help you manage the salary cap. That's your job. And you tell me all the time, you the billionaire. You should be able to figure that out.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, Abs. Absolutely. Absolutely. But it's funny, I don't think fans would be able to understand it from a player's perspective, because they will always side with their team and their loyalty and the owner saying what they. And obviously the media, obviously is. Most of the time, the media is going to be gravitate towards the owner side as well, making the players look like they are selfish in certain circumstances. It's unfortunate, but. But again, I mean, just hypothetically speaking, I'm just throwing it out there. Just. I mean, in a way, I'm serious. In a way, I'm actually joking. But I would love to be one to be in that. In those rooms. In those rooms. Because you're not gonna pull the wool over my eyes. You're not gonna pull over the world. And I'm one of the ones, one of the few who are going to say the things that no one else will say.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, I. I think the thing is, look, you have prosperity for another four or five years. Whomever comes in, guys, please, please start saving your money. No more homes. No tell. Tell the wife no more extravagant purchases. We got to put a war chest so that for. Because they're gonna lock us out.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me tell you why they're gonna lock. Let me tell you what they did last time, Ocho. They locked us out. They locked y' all out. I was done. I was done. They locked you out.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And once they got 10 more years, they had three years left with the. With the T. Broadcasting. They went right back to the broadcasting and say, we got 10 years of labor Piece. We want to redo the deal, and they did it. Now, I'm not telling you what somebody told you. I'm telling you what I know. So what they're gonna do? They're gonna lock you out. Yeah, they're gonna lock you out. Now, let me tell you, who wants. Who wants a programming, and they playing a premium because we see what Netflix pay Jake Paul every time he gets on that network. And we see what Amazon's doing. So don't be surprised in the next round. You watch it on Amazon?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You watching it on Netflix? I'm talking about the Sunday stuff.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because they got more money than NBC. They got more money than Fox. They got more money than cbs. Now, I ain't telling what somebody tell you. They got more money than espn.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Oh, they coming.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So let me tell you what they're going to do. They're going to lock you out. Because he said when he took the job, he said in 20 years, they want to be doing 25 billion in revenue per year. I think they're about 19, 20. That's why, you see, they done added another game, Ocho. Not only did they add. Guess what? They added another playoff spot, too. You see how they did that?

[Ryan Seacrest]

That money gotta come. That money gotta come from somewhere. Now, come on, now. Gotta come from somewhere.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We added a playoff game. Guess what? That's what we did, Ocho. We added another game. That's 17. So we got an extra team in the playoff, and we got an extra game. Now, what, What. What does Commish keep throwing out there? 18. 18.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, 18. Oh, 18. He gonna tease it. He gonna tease it every time. But what's the one thing everybody talk about? They keep throwing flags all over the place. Player safety.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Play a safety, Ocho. I ain't listening to nothing you say. Because all I see is the ratings going up. Every game, every year, the ratings keep going up. So fans keep talking about, oh, this is flag football. Y' all keep watching. I don't know if y' all noticed. Did you see how many people watched the super bowl last year? Did you see how many people watched the playoff games last year? So why am I listening to you?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, yeah, you're not. They. They will always watch, huh? No matter what anybody says.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now you see why OO we don't get invited nowhere. OO they can't. I. But I gotta get. I gotta tell the people the truth.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah. I mean, listen, Listen. It's. I've always. I've always been. I always been the villain. I always Been the bad one. I'm always been the one not to follow the rules, so I'm. I'm used to it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Chad. Now, y' all know why I've never been invited to a rookie symposium. And. Oh, we don't get the perks of being able to go certain places and do certain things, but it's. It's all good. But at the end of the day, I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm gonna tell you the truth. I'm gonna tell you what I know because I've. I've talked to people that was in that room that was negotiating.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So if whomever, the next head of the. The players association, please tell these guys to start saving their money.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I'm gonna tell them. I'm gonna start telling them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We got to put a war chest together, guys. In order for us to get. We want guaranteed money, and we want lifetime health benefits. We want to do away with that franchise tax the only way, because they know how much money you got. They know everything that happens in Dallas. There's nothing that Jerry Jones doesn't know about. There's nothing that happens in Miami that Steven Ross doesn't know about. There's nothing in an NFL town that those owners doesn't know about.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, it's so funny. Literally know everything. Literally know everything. I'm not. I'm not sure. I'm not sure what. I'm not sure. I don't know what service the NFL uses. I'm not sure what service the owners use, but being able to tell me what I did, I, I, I know. Being able to tell me I'm riding four wheelers in the off season with my homeboys down 12th Avenue. How do you know that? You all the way in Cincinnati. How you know that? How? You call my grandma and tell my grandma, hey, tell Chad to stay off them four wheelers during the off season. Please tell him. Stop riding up and down. Wait a minute. Huh? Man, I'm a witness to it. They know everything.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They know. Hey, why you not. Why you not in the bed? Sleep.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, what's up? What's up? I don't know which one that is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's Teddy Bear.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, Teddy Bear, you got to bring both them boys on, and you got to bring both of them on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And I was like, man. And. And the thing is, Ocho, like I said, they know. Yeah, they know how much you paying, how much your home loan is. They know how many kids you got, how many going to private school if you got a divorce. They know what? You paid?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah. Hey, hey, speaking of, I don't know, speaking of divorce, are we talking about the Coldplay concert thing tonight? No, no. Damn. Because I'm trying to throw, I'm trying to throw my hat in the. Trying to throw my name over there. Huh? What? Boy, it's opening. What you talking about? I want to be the CEO or astronomer.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, it is.

[Ryan Seacrest]

It's an opening. What you talking about?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I like this.

[Ryan Seacrest]

You go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Really? You're going to really love this.

[Ryan Seacrest]

What?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Arkansas south world wide receiver Monte Harrison is turning 30 years old this season.

[Ryan Seacrest]

30?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Harrison played pro baseball for the past 10 years. Oh, one of the main pieces in Christian Yellich trade to Milwaukee. Trade the Arkansas wide receiver Monte Harris. Harrison will be turning the big three zero on August 10th. Ocho. Yeah, he's only a sophomore. Hey, listen, that means he could see, conceivably be playing college football until he's 32. That would be the same age as Patrick Mahomes.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, that's in a sense. Now that you said he played baseball first for 10 years. It's understandable the fact that he still has eligibility and, and he's trying to live out that dream. Un. I mean I, I doubt, I doubt he gets drafted to the NFL. But being able to go back and get your degree and finish off what you love or a second sport that you do love after already playing in the mlb, I mean it's a dope thing. I don't know how good he is as a receiver, but even being able to do it with them young bulls out there at 30, I'm. I'm sure he's not that much better than everybody else where it's like oh my goodness, why is he here? But just the fact that he is 30 in college. But I mean it's kind of. I understand it because you played 10 years in the major league baseball. So listen, you have eligibility left, so why not?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, I mean if he go to the NFL, they give. They can't get no. But a six month contract.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Six month?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, his first. If they give a four five year deal. Oh, he'd be 37.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Well, you know, you know what they do? They let him play one or two years and they, they, they'll find. Excuse me. Find excuse just to let them, just to let them make history. Just let him make history.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I want to see if, I want to see if he like really good so he can go to the NFL. They're like, hey, well you're graduating class, right? My graduating class graduated seven, ten years ago.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Listen, if he.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If you go. Let me go to the NFL.

[Ryan Seacrest]

If he. No, no, I mean, no disrespect to him in any way, but if he was like that. If he was like that despite being 30 and. And you should have an advantage over. Over the young players that. That are. That are in college right now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But he's just more mature. I don't know.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I've seen no highlights, no, no nothing indicating that, you know, he's the next coming of Jamar Chase or Ryan Williams in Alabama or Jeremiah Smith in Ohio State. He's nothing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The man. 30, Ocho.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I. I'm just saying 30 would be your prime in the NFL, Ocho.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He a sophomore in college, so his prime is a sophomore in college.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Right. But I'm trying to give you an example of where his skill, his skill level. He's 30.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He would be Kyler Murray. You see Kyler Murray.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Kyler Murray.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Was the eighth pick in the draft. Hey, in between time, he said, you know what? I can make just. I can make just as much money, if not more money in the NFL and it's quicker.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah. Hey, I mean.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, you know, you tip your cat, the guy would look, the guy had eligibility. Yeah, he tried baseball. That work didn't work out. Hell, what we tell people, Ocho, you said he played 10 years in the minors. Ocho.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Oh, okay. Oh, okay, that. Listen, it's very, very difficult to make it to. Very difficult. You got to be. You got to be.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The hardest thing to do is to hit a baseball, Right?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Who you telling? Who you telling? Because, shoot, you know, bro, you hit 300.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You hit 300, they pay you 5,600 million. Let that sink in.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, that's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You successful 30% of the time. Name a job you can be successful. That tells you how hard that job is.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Imagine if you completed 30 of your passes, you caught 30 of the balls they threw to you, or you held on to the ball 30 of the time.

[Ryan Seacrest]

That's. That's crazy. When I think about my slugging percentage when I was in high school, you know, I batted.282 my senior year in high school. That's crazy. Hey, the fact that I passed up the opportunity to go to the Marlins in 97 after I graduated, that. That was dumb. That was dumb.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn, you played the right sport. Cause you didn't play baseball. You didn't play baseball as a kid.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, I was a five tooler. I played a Liberty City optimist.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. The tools was a hoe, a garden rake. A shovel.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, listen.

[Shannon Sharpe]

A bush ax.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Listen, I'm not. I'm not talking. I'm not trying to talk trash. I'm not trying to be funny, but we. We hype up Shayo Otani. I was pitching. Listen, I was pitching and hitting home runs at Liberty City. Optimus. I was Shea Otani before Shea Otani. It just. It wasn't. There were no cameras back then.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. He's the first guy they really loud. Because if you go back and study some of those pictures and you watch him in. And you watch them in college.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They could actually hit. Oh, yeah, but he was the first one that's like, well, look, I'm not gonna come to your team. And it. It's kind of like Travis. Like Travis. Like Travis Hunter.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like, bro, if y' all not gonna let me, I'm not going to your college. If you just gonna make me play one side of the ball.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So they're. Go back and study some of those pictures, and you'll see they were actually.350. 400 hitters in college.

[Ryan Seacrest]

God damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah. Yeah, bro. Oh, yeah, they were. They. They were. They. They were really good. But, man, Oo. To hit that baseball, man, you got to be doing that thing, man, you got to be playing five, six years old. You can't be afraid of it. You got to see. Hey, that curveball, that slider, that change up.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, any.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Any of them. Hey, that cut fast ball, that four seam, two seam.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I don't know. I don't know if you went in the batting cage. Forget it. Batting cage. You've been in the batting cage and had that ball come at you, and you got to sit there. You got to sit there in that. You got to sit there in the box. Hey, and the player they. The players been. They so used to it. They just be nice and cool, know how to time it up 95 miles an hour. What, man?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What?

[Ryan Seacrest]

The.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The.

[Ryan Seacrest]

The average human. The average human, you put them in the batter's box, and as soon as the ball fly by, I. I can't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You swing. You swing that ball already in the catch. That's what happened. Ocho. When you swing the ball in the catcher.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, it's. It's so funny on tv, the players make it look so easy. And that's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They do.

[Ryan Seacrest]

That's any sport. The highest level, those that do it, I. I don't think they get enough respect from those that are watching from at home that talk trash about them on the couch. Are you struck out again, not understanding you know how difficult it is to do what they do at that level. I mean.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, like a boxer. Yeah. You watch. You watch Florida? You watch some of these defensive fighters, they. Hey, they. Hey. They don't. They'll throw a punch, and they already know this was coming back. Yeah, Pop.

[Ryan Seacrest]

They already know. Hey, that goddamn clinic. That goddamn clinic Shakur Stevenson just put on the other night where everybody always talk trash about his fights. You always running. You're always running. He comes in and does the complete opposite of what everybody says he did and put on a defensive clinic. Hell, his defense was his offense the entire fight. It was beautiful. Hey, you saw. You saw Matt? You saw our guy Max Holloway last night?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I saw a little bit of it.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Oh, you missed it, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm asleep. Okay, man, I was. Hey, my boy. My boy, Was it tired? I was messing with him. Scarface.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Oh, Face was out there, y'.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All. He hit me up.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I went to Eight Lounge to smoke.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He had a show. He had a show last night.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So he hit me up this morning. He want to go get something to eat.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He say, so, what you got? I said, what you got a taste for?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Chris, Cafe. Please tell me you went, man, that line too long.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't waiting in no line. They'd be wanting you to stand outside and tell my. Wait till you order. I say, oh, hell, no. But anyway, he caught. He called me. I said, what you got to taste for? He said, man, I got some seafood I want, you know. I said, I'm allergic to shellfish. You know what this food told me?

[Ryan Seacrest]

What?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wait in the car. Hell, no.

[Ryan Seacrest]

His face funny, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I said, face, man, get off my phone, man. But I say, I see you, because, you know, I told him, I said he wanted to do something later this afternoon. I said, well, I got nightcap. He said, well, I'll catch you next time. I said, well, I tell you what, when I come to Houston, show your boy around. He said, no, I ain't got nothing for you. I don't want you nowhere near Houston.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Hey, man, me and Face, we sat at the cigar bar. Man called it. He told me, remember what I. I did? I did the show, man. I did the show from inside the cigar bar. Yeah, man, we. But we sat outside all day. All day. Hey, that was. That was a good time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. This food, talking about, hey, what's waiting? The car.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Oh, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold on.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Let your imagination take flight with an.

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