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Joe Johnson
Hello. Hello. What's up, guys? Hello. What's up? Yeah, what's up, baby?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, we. Dang, Joe. I mean, I know you go. You go underground, but damn, you taking.
Joe Johnson
Man, come on, man. You say you. Hey, look, you and Ocho ain't crazy. Y' all seen what was going on out there, man. Huh? Y' all see what's going on out there, man?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, man.
Shannon Sharpe
I said Joe. I said Joe. Attack a a message I ain't heard back from yet. I don't even know if he read it. I don't know if he.
Joe Johnson
You know, I'm just picking myself back up. My spirits was down, man. My spirits.
Shannon Sharpe
I understand. We understand, bro, but we glad to have you back.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
How you feeling? How you feeling?
Joe Johnson
How you feeling, man? I just. Okay, Ocho, man, I had. I had to go back up under that knife Monday. I had surgery on Monday, man.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, so the. So the big. Well, the big.
Joe Johnson
It's over with for me this year. But listen, you and Osho ain't crazy now.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Don't act like.
Joe Johnson
Don't. Don't y' all act like that tonight.
Shannon Sharpe
Chat.
Joe Johnson
Y' all hear me?
Shannon Sharpe
No, hold on.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What happened, baby?
Joe Johnson
We. We started the season off 2 and 0. You know, I didn't play no more after weeks because I got hurt, but, man, we finna run through this man. We're gonna run through these people. We finna run through these people. Okay, Ocho.
Shannon Sharpe
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Joe Johnson
Appreciate it, man. Appreciate it, man. It's good to be back on here with you boys, man. We have some good times, man.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, sir, but I. So how's the recovery?
Joe Johnson
I had surgery on my patella, my patella tendon on Monday. Today was my first day of PT physical therapy. I went to physical therapy today and.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Joe Johnson
Moving that thing around. And we're on the road to recovery.
Shannon Sharpe
You didn't rupture your patella. Done is done. We gotta keep.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Huh?
Joe Johnson
What do you say?
Shannon Sharpe
You didn't rough your patella tender, did you?
Joe Johnson
Yeah, man. You did leave me right there on that spot, right above my knee, right in my patella. And he ruptured it.
Shannon Sharpe
Damn, man, I just Thought you had.
Joe Johnson
Man, I'm down bad over here, man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, listen, I got some. See, I'm. I got some. Really?
Shannon Sharpe
Come on to the old man club. Joe, Sit your ass down.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Joe, you can hear me? Joe? Joe done froze up.
Joe Johnson
What you got, Joe?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, that's me.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, you froze up. Using that dial up.
Joe Johnson
You got. Chill, chill, chill, chill. What's going on? What's up, man?
Shannon Sharpe
What.
Joe Johnson
Hey, like Drake. Say, what did I miss? What I missed.
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Joe Johnson
You told me about the onion.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. The onions, garlic. You got. You got some.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, all that.
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Joe Johnson
Got that, too.
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Joe Johnson
Oh, you gotta do what?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You gotta drink it.
Shannon Sharpe
Joe. You gonna. You'll meet an untimely demise if you drink witch hazel.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Listen, you're not putting that money. Hey, listen, Joe, listen to me.
Kyle Pitts
Joe, listen.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Stay with me real quick, Joe. There's a reason I've never been injured. 57 years of life, and I've always been active. Playing a barbaric sport and still very active. Have yet to be. Be injured. Joe, I'm telling you. I know what I'm talking about.
Joe Johnson
What you talking about?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
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Shannon Sharpe
A lot of times. A lot of times, Joe, people don't be into it. Never get into a car accident until they get into that one, and they go on and they go home. Don't you fool with Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm here to help you, baby. That's it.
Joe Johnson
Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Okay. So how's the summer been, Joe? Other than that. Dang, Joe. I said, man, I'm so. I'm. I'm. I'm so sorry to hear that, because, man, as we start to age, yo, man, we ain't really trying to have no surgeries unless it's absolutely, positively an emergency. And, man, you like, man, I'm out here doing something I love. Yeah, I'm. Hey, I'm gonna hang this thing on up, guys. I'm gonna let y' all have this moving forward.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You can't end up. You got to come back strong next, Joe. You got to come back strong next year.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, that's a long rehab, man.
Joe Johnson
I don't know what's going on. Like, my bad, y'.
Shannon Sharpe
All.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, Unki, right? Yeah. We ain't trying to do all that, man. Listen, I'm like, boy, look, every time I replay it in my head, I get pissed off.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I've never heard of it. I've never heard of. Of getting need. Eruption of patella is normally a sudden, you know, a hard plant or sudden, you know, one way or another. But you got knees. That's what the doctor ruptured.
Joe Johnson
I said it don't never happen. Like they said, normally your leg just kind of give out when you rupture your patella. I'm like, oh, man, this was contact. Yeah, he said that, though. He said it normally don't happen like that.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Oh, but no, gotta keep moving. You know, I've seen some guys rupture. You gotta keep moving, Joe. Gotta keep your head up, Joe. It's tough because you're an active person. You like. You like doing pilates, I mean, yoga. Yeah. You like shooting basketball. And now your ass, like, now you. You non mobile for about six months. Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, you're right. Huh.
Shannon Sharpe
So it's not weight bearings.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Six months.
Joe Johnson
It's a slow.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's not weight bearing.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. They say it's eight to 10 months to get back to feeling confident, but yeah, I'm. I'm. I'm be laid up for a little minute.
Shannon Sharpe
Man.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, we.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Listen, I come out. I come on down in Atlanta, man, you can prop your leg up. We hit Magic City, man.
Kyle Pitts
Come on, get.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You get some wings.
Joe Johnson
Come on, man. Come on.
Shannon Sharpe
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Joe Johnson
Like that now.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, come on. Hey, listen, listen, listen, listen. We. Listen, listen. We got to live. We got to. We got. We got to live. All right? Now, what we can't do is we can't go in. We can't go in no turtle shell. Now come on now.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, but. But y' all know how it is, man. Like I said, Joe, I am sorry to hear that, man. Ocho is. Ocho is being Ocho. He. Everybody. He want to fight Andre Ward. No, no, he wanna. He want to rap against this one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He want to do all that.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. So Clarissa Shield said if she fights Layla Ali, depending on where, that they got some venues. Venues in place. She said she gonna put me on undercard, and I get that. Me, Andre Ward, get to go at it. We get the thump. What you think about that?
Joe Johnson
Oh, man. I'm gonna come check you out. O. Joe.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, my dog.
Joe Johnson
Hey, I'm come see you. I'm gonna come check you out.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, hey, wait. Hey, Joe, you're gonna be. You're gonna be shocked, Joe. You're gonna be shocked. You know, Joe, Tighten them things up a little bit. Hey, yo. Hey, Joe. Boy, I look good, but, Joe, I'm smooth. You hear me, John, man, like. Like butter. Like butter. I'm telling you. Like parquet. Are you gonna be surprised? I'm a surprise on too, because everybody's so focused on what I look like four, five years ago when I fought, not understanding I didn't been in the ring trying to perfect that craft of the sweet science for the longest, you know, once you get in the groove or something and you understand how to. How to take that chaos and control it in that structure and environment and just stay relaxed when it's done. When it's done right. It's a beautiful thing, Joe.
Shannon Sharpe
Chad, do me a favor. Go watch Andre Ward when he interviewed Roy Jones and he's saying how he fought and things like that. Just go watch him, watch him. Hold on, Bob.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Been watching Andre Ward since he. Since he was a shorty. I know. Boxing is my love, my sport. What you talking about? He can't get lumped up by me.
Shannon Sharpe
No, no, no, no, no. A professional probably could have lumped him up back in.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right, right, right.
Shannon Sharpe
The likelihood. The like of. The likelihood of a guy coming off the street loving Andre Ward up, even at his right age and he hadn't fallen.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, I like.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, I like. Hey, hey, Joe. I like that. Unc is doubting me. Unc, remind me of my teachers in high school when they told me.
Shannon Sharpe
And you got to realize, Ocho, he your size.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh, he walks around.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm like, 220 right now. He's not my side. I'm have to cut weight. I'm have to cut weight, huh?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah. Hey, the only thing gonna get cut is your ass if you get in the room with Andre War. Hey, hey, hey, Joe, check this out. Let's check this video. Take a look at this.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, good. 220 right there, boy. Okay.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Give him the traps, right? Give Him a trap. Give him the traps.
Shannon Sharpe
Look like a praying mantis with a tank top on.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, hey, hey, Joe, you got.
Shannon Sharpe
Hold on. I'm just trying to figure out why you got. Why you got a beater on with sweatpants back ass.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Because, because my legs was cold. My leg. Because that gym, the gym I was in, it got AC on, but today was upper body, so I was working my upper extremity. So I just want to make sure.
Shannon Sharpe
My legs keep going. Bro, you supposed to stay.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, hey.
Shannon Sharpe
You're supposed to stay covered up.
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I want to show it off a little bit because I want, I want, I want to tease Debo. I want to tease Debo. I sent him a little message. Hey, hey, Joe. I sent Debo a little message and I played the Steelers theme song that they always play in the middle of the game. It's called Renegade by Sticks. You know, So I just want to let Debo know is I'm working, I'm working. And he laughed at me on Instagrams.
Shannon Sharpe
He laughed.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm like, he let. And he think it's funny. And I told him it's really gonna be funny when my fist gets stuck to your frontal lobe like a magnet. That's what's gonna be funny. Yeah, I'm gonna his ass up.
Shannon Sharpe
What's up? Welcome in Pro bowl tight end Cow Pitt. Cal, how you doing, bro?
Kyle Pitts
Doing good. How you doing?
Joe Johnson
Hello.
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Shannon Sharpe
If Ocho and Joe ISO Joe joining us tonight, man.
Kyle Pitts
Okay. Appreciate y' all having. How y' all doing?
Shannon Sharpe
We're doing amazing. I'm gonna get right into it. Michael Penix Jr. Unprompted, not from the reporters, not by anybody. Encouraging the first thing out of his mouth. Hey man, y' all saw kp. It'll be a lot more of that today. What? What? What? What happened today for people that weren't at camp that didn't get an opportunity to see. What has Michael Pennis Jr. So excited that he started off his press conference mentioning Kyle Pitts?
Kyle Pitts
Obviously it's day One his first day camp, you know, the emotions is high. We had a pretty good day as an offense, just gelling and moving the ball down the field and, you know, as a tight end, it's always great to be a safety blanket for these quarterbacks and be somebody he relies on. So for him to have that confidence in me is amazing.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I was going to say I hope Zach Robinson, right? That is officer coordinator. Yes.
Kyle Pitts
Yes, sir.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Listen, I'm hoping Zach Robinson can get back to putting you well, obviously, I don't think he was there. He was there your rookie year. But get you back to doing what you do best, understanding what you did in Florida that you can still do in the NFL. There are so many mismatches that you can create based on what you can do and your unique skill set. When we talk about the Titans in NFL top five, you're supposed to be in that conversation based on what you could do. After rookie season, you had a thousand yards, obviously due to injury. There have been some minor setbacks. But this is a year for you to get back to what you're known for, and that's being a stellar playmaker regardless of what's around you, regardless of who's in front of you. And I'm hoping brother Robinson does everything he can to put you back in position to make the plays that I know you can make. Because not only is it going to help you and build your confidence, but it's going to make brother Michael Penning Jr also build his confidence and be that quarterback number one that the Falcons have been in search of since Matt Ryan's been gone.
Kyle Pitts
Sure, sure.
Shannon Sharpe
How difficult is it? You have the outstanding rookie year, as Ocho mentioned, over a thousand yards. There hadn't been very many tight ends to come in as a rookie and get a thousand yards. Now you get that. So the expectations are through the roof because, you know, you're hiring a draft pick and you come out like gangbusters and then injuries, then quarterback turnover. How difficult is it to take, stay positive when your quarterback. There's a quarterback carousel and the injuries start to mount.
Kyle Pitts
I mean, obviously everybody has a different path and I think mine is pretty unique. Just obviously it being my fifth year and it being my fifth quarterback, but I've learned something from everyone from Matt to Marcus to Desmond to Taylor, from Kirk. I mean, everybody brings something special to the table and just to learn a lot. And now this be my first year of having someone from the previous year as a quarterback and, you know, growing the continuity over the summer, working out Together, getting those routes in. It's amazing to see it and you know, just to grow that relationship with him, just to, you know, work working this time during camp on the way to game one.
Joe Johnson
Kp, what's up, Brush?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You know it.
Joe Johnson
It's Joe, man.
Shannon Sharpe
Go ahead, Joe. Go ahead.
Kyle Pitts
What's up, man?
Joe Johnson
Chilling, chilling, man. What's your expectations on the Falcons this year, on the season, this upcoming season?
Kyle Pitts
First, I won't go as far as expectations because we taking it in. We were about progression. You know, just first healthy camp, everybody get out of this healthy. And then, you know, getting ready for week one and just trying to stack as many wins as we can because obviously Atlanta's a hard fan base. It's a, it's a city that is very passionate about their sports. So for sure. And just to be able to. We want to get back to, you know, having Mercedes been rocking, which we have last year, but you know, we have some different things up in the road. But the year that, you know, we, we coming together and we all bought in as a second year system, so now, you know, we got the opportunity to take it to the next step.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, you. Would it be in the second, your second year in this system? How comfortable are you with the offense where you don't have to think anymore. You can hear the play call, you go out there and you can just line up based on whatever in front of me. You can just go without having to think.
Kyle Pitts
Yeah, Very, very confident. And like I said, it's year two. We've been working in the summer just mentally and physically. So it's just, you know, so now we're here in camp, we're not taking a step back, right? We just. Now we're just going against the defense and it'll be passed on next week and you know, going into practice and you know, into the preseason. So things like that is, is. Is big for us.
Joe Johnson
Oh, God.
Shannon Sharpe
Having played the position that you played, and I don't know if people understand this, but when you injured, you are a move. Tight end, line you up outside the numbers, they'll put you in motion, they'll put you in the slot, you'll line up top, they'll put you in the backfield. But when you're injured, it's hard, man. I just want to get, hey, I just want to get somewhere and just go all this bad. I can't because I can't do it. And it's. And you know, you know what? Like my body just is not giving me what I want. But because the fans have seen what you're capable of. They don't understand that body. The mind is willing, but the body just ain't able right now.
Kyle Pitts
Yeah, I mean, obviously Bump, everyone goes through injuries. Some people don't. But in my specific case, you know, having the knee and just different little, small. Small things is. It's. It's a. Just a testament of what's going to happen this year. And I'm excited for what's going to happen and how, you know, we're growing as an offense and how we going to take that next step. So it's, it's. So we got some games. Us going to start week one with Tampa divisional game and, you know, go out there and try and get the first win and just keep building them and, and you know, hopefully win. Win our division and then, you know, taking it step by step from there.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You know, I, I have. I have one question. How much? I don't want to call it. I don't want to say power, but most of the time it's called power to me. You know, when a player can go to an officer coordinator and go to a head coach and ask to do more, are you healthy enough or is your body back in a state where you can ask Coach Robinson, listen, I need you to put me in different positions to be able to make plays. Because if you, you put me out here at receiver, it's a mismatch, you know, if you put me in motion, you know, it's a mismatch. Is your body is the knee at a point now where you can do a multitude of things offensively to open up the play and also for you.
Kyle Pitts
100% and just mentally being able to play faster. Yeah, that's a big thing. When you hear the plays, be able to break the huddle and play fast.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Kyle Pitts
So definitely, you know, being the best asset to this offense is. Is the goal. Because there's a bunch of playmakers on this offense, you know, Drake, Bijan Mooney, Ray Ray. I mean, every. Everybody could, you know, we can spread everybody out and then, you know, you go nickel. Now we running it got, you know, Tyler. So we got the one, two punch and just been able to definitely take that, take that load for sure.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I like it.
Shannon Sharpe
Did you hear because of the injury, because of some lack of production, there was rumor swirling possibly Kyle Pitts might be on the move. How did you stay in the moment? How did you like, I'm here right now. If and when that were to arise that I'm somewhere else, I'LL deal with that, then. But how did you stay present in the moment? Because people say, oh, I don't think it's hard, bro. You talk about me, you know, unless there's another cow Pitts I don't know about. But in the meantime, you're talking about Cal. Me, I'm cow Pitts. And I hear all of this going on. How are you able to stay focused, stay present? And says, you know what? If it happens, it happens. But in the meantime, I'm here.
Kyle Pitts
I mean, I'm. I'm very much deep in my face, so I know what God has planned for me. But most important is, like, you know, those people have a job, and fans are fans for a reason. They can't do what we do. So they know they don't really know me. You know, I know the player I am, and I know the bumps and the bruises and the different things we had to go through in these past couple years. But it's. You know, everybody had their time, and, you know, I feel like my mom's coming.
Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah. Hey, K, y'.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
All.
Shannon Sharpe
Y' all open?
Joe Johnson
Y' all open up here against Tampa?
Kyle Pitts
Yes, sir.
Joe Johnson
Man, I got to come. I might have to come check y' all out. What's up? What you trying to do? All right, all right.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You can't. You can't come to the game with us.
Kyle Pitts
That's crazy.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Man. Hey, hey, Kyle, I'll be there, man. Don't worry about it. Hey, Joe, I'll be there.
Kyle Pitts
Week one.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Week one, we in Atlanta, man.
Kyle Pitts
Okay, Y' all heard it. Y' all heard that. Make sure y' all good. Y' all in the house. Y' all come on. Everything set up, man.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, man, I heard that thing be rocking. Okay. I ain't gonna lie to you now, psi. I heard it be rocking. The food be banging. I mean, hey, they got this. You get what is a. A hot dog. I don't need no glizzes or I gotta come up with something else. But you get a pretzel, a big, large soda, fries. And all the food is, like. Except alcohol is, like, all you could eat, like, a certain price.
Kyle Pitts
We got one of the best owners in the business, Mr. Blanket.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah. Mr. Blake. Yes.
Kyle Pitts
And he makes it a portable for everybody, and, you know, it's a great time. It's only one way to, you know, taste for yourself. You got to come see it.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Kyle Pitts
You know, so we get you to the. Had to get to the be.
Shannon Sharpe
Let me ask you this, though. Does preseason count? Can I Come to a preseason.
Kyle Pitts
You won't even. You don't even like sitting there.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey. Hey.
Shannon Sharpe
No, I would be.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, Kyle, I got. I got a question. Right. Do you understand the seriousness which I've just learned, and I would. This is long after I'm done playing. You understand the seriousness between the Falcons and the same robbery?
Kyle Pitts
At first, I. I didn't really see.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Me too.
Kyle Pitts
At first I did, and I. And I didn't really understand that the hatred. It's not like a dislike.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Kyle Pitts
It's a hatred.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Kyle Pitts
And it's like, that's kind of like Georgia versus Florida. You know, that game. It don't matter if you dinged up. You find a way to get on that field. You know, that's. That's the. That's a rivalry game. It's going to be down to the last. You know, and thanks. Is a great team. And I feel like, you know, each year it's a fight, so to be able to go down. And Caesar's Dome is. Is. Is loud, too. You know, they're f. Especially when we come into town.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Kyle Pitts
So it's like, you know, vice versa. When they come up here and they. You know, their fan base travels heavy, and it's. You know, it's a very competitive game.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Kyle, let me ask you this. When. When you look at it, where the. Where you started, and now you see all these guys, they got the McBrides that come in, and they got the Hawkinsons, and they got the laportas, and they got all these guys and don't seemingly that. Whoa, whoa. What. What happened to. What happened to p. Y' all ain't. Y' all ain't talking about me no more. Y'. All. Y' all know I've been that boy. I've been him. I just been nicked up. So y' all just go look over me.
Kyle Pitts
That's okay. Look. That's all right. That's all right.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Kyle Pitts
You know, I would. It's many people who have perfect careers, you know, so. So, you know, when I get back on the map, other things are doing the thing. I got to do what I need to do. First up, right here.
Shannon Sharpe
You said today that you're not paying attention to any outside noise. I don't read that rat poison. I don't get on Twitter, and I don't listen to the bots who can't come out here in 90 degree weather and come and do what I do. Expand on the rat poison, because that was Coach Sabers. One of his favorite sayings, like that rat po. You get a little praise or you get some negativity, you and it festers.
Kyle Pitts
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
It'll kill you.
Kyle Pitts
Yeah. Even though I didn't go to Alabama, that was something that. Just watching him and I had a couple buddies go to Alabama, that was something that, you know, they would say that he's big on. So I never really, like I said, I don't read it because they can't come out there in the heat of the moment and hear a play call and game on the line, people screaming. You can't hear the snap count and go out there and perform. So it's like, I don't. I don't really value that at all. And you guys know athletes, they're. They're on the sidelines for a reason. They just, you know, they're invested because they betting them, you know, so it's like we, we know what it is to go out there, run across that middle fourth quarter, catch that ball and move the sticks.
Shannon Sharpe
Right, right. The report now, I don't know if this is true, but this is what's being reported. That be you're being used. You. They see you more with the receiver group than with the tight end group. That was being reported. I don't know. I ain't there. Like you said, I can't do what you do, Pierce, no more. I can't come out there 90 degrees day, not even with an umbrella and some. And some Gatorade. I can't be out there in that heat. Me and heat don't get along anymore.
Kyle Pitts
Not no more. Not no more. But you had your day when it was. It was.
Shannon Sharpe
It was your day.
Kyle Pitts
You had your 2A days, you know, luckily, yeah, we won't have those no more. We won't have those no more. But yeah, yeah, it's gonna be. It's a plan. Follow behind Coach Morrison. You know what, Raheem and you know, Coach Z. Rob has definitely put together for me for this camp and just go intern this year. It's big on just, you know, like I said, buying in and, you know, trusting what they have and, you know, it's, It's. I would say hybrid won't say, you know, a specific position. You definitely want to be hypers.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Kyle Pitts
The more you can do, the better you are.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I love it. I love it because I, I listen, I'm predicting, Hey, I can do this. You ain't got to say none. I'm predicting 1300 nasties. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. What it's going to look like this year.
Kyle Pitts
So what's the. So what's the. What's the prize? We'll talk about.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Just. Just call me. I got you. I got you.
Shannon Sharpe
Piss. I'm gonna put you on the spot. I'll put you on the spot. Give me your top five tight ends of all time. You study position, played the position. Hey, and keep it a stack. Keep it a stack. If I ain't in. If I ain't in the top five, I'm cool with that. I'm cool. Like you said, I'd have had my time, right? There was a time I was in the top five. If I'm not now, but I was.
Kyle Pitts
Well, 100. No, I into specific numbers because, you know, everybody be like, oh, you missing this person. It's really just who you kind of model your game after. So like my father, in no specific order would be definitely you, Tony G. Mike Dick, who was the start before. I would say Jason Wynton is. Is someone who I feel like in high school when I really started to learn about the tight end position and, you know, he wasn't maybe like the fastest, but he knew how to beat you mentally.
Shannon Sharpe
So.
Kyle Pitts
Because I learned that from a guy named Lee Smith, who, you know, he may be older, but they're. They're beach to the spot. But yeah, Tony G, you, Mike Dicker, Jason. And I'm gonna have to. I'm gonna have to go give Travis's followers. He the best doing it right now. He the best doing it.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Kyle Pitts
Between him, him and him and George are one day like 1A, 1B right now. They. They definitely send the precedent for how to play the position and how to win at that position. So it's definitely, you know, love watching them on film.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Watching you play, you kind of remind me of myself, the speed guy. We did a lot of our damage outside and in the slot. I ain't really trying to bang like that, but I had to block a little bit more than you had had to block. But I think Gates, you move. Gates wasn't that fast. Yeah, but man, Gates knew how to get open and catch touchdown. I'm like, how does mofo get any touchdowns like this? That's what I couldn't understand. And that.
Kyle Pitts
And that's what I'm saying. Like, you know, me putting win in my top five, I really had Gatesy in my top five because that's who really, you know him in LA when he's playing with, you know, Dane Thompson. So that was watching when I was getting into watching, you know, different tight ends.
Shannon Sharpe
I was like, man, how they, how they score all these, these touch how this man got 117, 118 touchdown for a tight end, that's unheard of. Y' all gonna have to get on the ball if y'. All. Cause that breaker gonna be there a long time if somebody don't get on the ball.
Joe Johnson
You don't think nobody gonna get that, the way they throwing that ball. Now.
Shannon Sharpe
Tight ends don't score like that, man.
Kyle Pitts
I feel like that's, that's. Yes, you had you, you had you some games in the red zone where you was get. You was hot. You had you some. A string of games where you, you 10 plus for sure.
Shannon Sharpe
But here's the thing. Think about. He had LT. I mean, he went, he. LT went three years. LT had 69 touchdowns in three years. Do you. So they get. Yes. And so for a tight end, there have only been two tight ends that have over 100 TDs in a career. That's. That's a gonzo engage. So in, in 100 plus year history, 105, 106 year history, there are only two tight ends to put up those kind of numbers. Hawkinson and. And Laporte and McBride and Kittle. You get pissed, you get on the ball, man. It's hard to score down there because like you said, he could, he could score. I, I could never. I was a guy that get yards.
Kyle Pitts
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
You know, I lead the game with 150, 160 yards with no touchdowns.
Kyle Pitts
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
Man, that Joker have like 88 yards with three touchdowns. Right. Hey, right.
Kyle Pitts
Sometimes it go that way.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, you got, you got to think, you got to remember Antonio Gay skill set, too. Now they get down to that goal line, they get him out there, wide basketball background, coming to play. Yeah, man, listen, his lateral movement, he move in short areas. His releases is like a damn receiver.
Joe Johnson
What was his career length? How long did he play on?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I think he played 16, I think, I think Gates has got. He got 16 or 17 pits. I think he got 16.
Kyle Pitts
Yeah, I think it was. I think it was 16 because my coach, Tim Brewster was. He used to show me all his tape when I was coming out. Yeah, that was somebody.
Shannon Sharpe
I think Brewster was in it. I think he was in. I think Brewster was in Denver, too.
Kyle Pitts
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
100.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Was Wade Harmon there when you got there? Who's your position coach when you first got there?
Kyle Pitts
His name was Justin Peele.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. Yeah, Justin Peele. That name sound familiar? I think he played?
Kyle Pitts
Yeah, he played here in Atlanta.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah, I thought that name sound familiar. You're 100 healthy, you're raring to go. Ocho tried to put some numbers on you. What is health, the precursor? Because I. I know you. Look, I don't want to put you on the spot and say, okay, give us a stand total where you say 100 and 1200 yards, and this health is the precursor. And then everything else will fall into place after that. Is that how you approaching it?
Kyle Pitts
Not at all. Well, you know, one. Once I got back to, you know, last year, and then in this off season, feeling great, that's the last thing on my mind now. It's just like I say, playing fast mentally, physically being able to get to my spot and, you know, being the best asset for Mike. So when I do. When I do get my opportunities in first, you know, first, second down, third down, ball come my way, we moving the chain. We're getting yanked. That's. That's the big thing. Yeah. And, you know, putting that shoulder down, get across that goal line of chains, you know, be more valuable for this offense.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah, uncle, you heard that. Rise up. Yeah, yeah.
Joe Johnson
It's an experience in that thing. Yeah, you gotta go check them Falcons out, baby.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. So week one, we. We there in Tampa, and I mean in Atlanta, bro.
Shannon Sharpe
Do you understand how hard it is, Joe? Like, when you trying to evaluate, like, what we do, we're gonna have to talk about the game. What. So how we gonna talk about the game that we don't watch on television? If we had the Falcons game, use the phone.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You got NFL red zone, all the games on your phone, huh, bro?
Shannon Sharpe
See, that's the thing, though. See. So how you. How you watching the Falcons game? If you looking at your phone, we.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Can just look at the tidbits, look at the tidbit.
Joe Johnson
I see we coming from.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Nah, nah, he just trying to get out of going to the game with us. What he doing?
Kyle Pitts
He gonna sneak into one of these games. One of the game.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm gonna call. I'm gonna have to call. I'm gonna have to call. Mr. Blank. I'm have to go through the. The private.
Kyle Pitts
We'll make it work. We'll make it work. Yeah, I'm pretty sure he accommodation.
Shannon Sharpe
Kyle, man, thanks for joining us, man. We appreciate it. Stay healthy. This is the year. You gotta stay healthy because, you know, this is. This your fifth year. You know what the fifth year means? What comes after the fifth year? Hey, kiddo. Got 19 million.
Kyle Pitts
Hello.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, you could be the first 20 million dollar guy.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Make it 22.
Shannon Sharpe
Hello.
Kyle Pitts
Hey, I like that.
Shannon Sharpe
I like that. Hey, I'm just saying, the first guy. Hey, the first with a two in front of it for a tight end. More than I made in my whole career. Damn. Hey, keep your head back out.
Joe Johnson
Working, baby. Chopping wood. Let's go now.
Kyle Pitts
Yes, sir. Brick by brick, baby.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, congratulations, man. Continue success. Stay healthy, man. And come back and join us after that first 200 yard game. Come back and join us and talk to her. Tell us about it.
Kyle Pitts
I got you. I'm gonna hold you to that.
Shannon Sharpe
All right, Bet.
Kyle Pitts
All right.
Shannon Sharpe
Appreciate for the Atlanta Falcons, guys. Thanks for joining us, Kyle.
Kyle Pitts
All right.
Shannon Sharpe
Do y' all know this? Ocho and Joe? This is the last Thursday without football until February. Because next week is the hall of Fame game. Chargers versus Lions. Yeah, man. So, hey, it's about to get real busy. It's about to get real busy.
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Get started risk free@greenlight.com iheart there was some football injuries today, guys. Justin Fields was carted off the field doing jets training camp. The official jets account put an update saying after a medical evaluation, Justin Field sustained a dislocated toe in his right foot and will be day to day. Fields avoided serious injury and significant missed times.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
A dislocated toe? How much time is that? About two weeks.
Shannon Sharpe
It all depends. You know, that's on his right foot. That's the plant you throw off of two. Yeah, that's the one that you stop and.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
You don't know how much you need that big toe, boy, until you heard it.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Until you heard it right.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah, Stubby. Hey, you. Hey. In the middle of the night, when you go into the bathroom, you kick that bed post on Joe or you stub that thing.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You hit the corner of the wall or the corner of the bed.
Joe Johnson
Hold on, hold on. I got Turtle. When I was playing in Brooklyn, we played against Toronto. It was a game seven. We end up winning the game seven. But I got. I got it. I caught the turf to him like third quarter. So the next series, man, I had to get shot in my big toe before every game, man. I'm talking about the worst pain ever. Oh, my God.
Shannon Sharpe
My brother had that same injury. Joe, he shot up. He didn't practice. All he did, he. He heard it in the preseason, he shot it up, and then he ended up having to have surgery after the season. Yeah. Yep. So, hey, that toy, nothing to play with. I had an uncle and he pulled wood and he ended up cutting his big toe off. Man, that joker walked. He actually cut like three of the toes off. Huh? He went through. He was cut. He was cutting the wood and went through and went right toes on the ground.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
When you cut wood, you supposed to have on steel toe boots.
Shannon Sharpe
The hell, bro? That's a check, bro. You think they're still too.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm tripping.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know if you ever see the pub wood up close. And I think he had a bow blade. You know what a bow blade is, right?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I don't know what that is.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, you got a straight blade and then you have the bow blade. So he had, he had that big.
Kyle Pitts
Bow blade, the round one.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's called a bow blade. And see tonight, I don't know if they still do it because now I see all the. When I watch, I see when I watch IG and I see they got these machines, they got the, the machine that'll cut down the tree. But they didn't have that when I was growing up as a kid. They had seven, eight, nine guys out there with them long, blazing, no bow blades cutting down the trees. So it's, it was, it was big difference back then OO than what it is now. But yeah, man, you, you be. Hey, you got to be careful. You got to watch guy cutting down the tree and the tree follow your head. Hey, man, you get hurt out there, hey, that's some dangerous work out there. But yeah. Sam Darnold, Zach Wilson, Aaron Rodgers, not Justin Field. It seemed like, damn, they can't catch a break.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. And listen, at least, at least it's the, the extent of the injury is it's not that drastic where he's going to miss the whole season. Obviously I'm not sure what the, what the length of time is for dislocated toe. The backup is.
Shannon Sharpe
It all depends what you call them.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I don't think they're going to miss a beat offensively. But, but having Justin Fields there to get those, those reps in with, with.
Shannon Sharpe
The stars, he need rep and with.
Joe Johnson
That type of injury, I know it lingers. It ain't just going to be go away, you know.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. And it all depends on what toe it is. What toe is dislocated? Is it a big toe? Is it one of the middle toes? Because a lot of times when you have turf toe, Oo they put that steel plate because they don't want it to be so, you know, cuz they don't want you to get that, that flexion up and On. On the toe. So it's going to be very, very interesting. I wish him a speedy recovery. I just want. I just want a young fella to. To be able to stay, play, play fast, stay healthy, be somewhere they believe in him. I don't know how good offensive line that they're going to have at the. At the jets, but I know that he. He relished this opportunity because now he thought he was going to Pittsburgh. And then they end up signing Russell Wilson and he gets off into a 4, 2 start, and then they insert Russell and so he's like, well, damn, what I gotta do? What do I gotta do?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Damn, man.
Shannon Sharpe
But go ahead.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm just saying that that sucks. It sucked for the jets fan, it sucks for the jets organization as they continue to try and find and hit that stride at the quarterback position. Like, it's always something. It's always something.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. AG said he suspected Fields was hurt when his foot was stepped on by a teammate, but that he needed to see the film and a lot of times don't show. You know, you get stepped on, the quarterback gets stepped on trying to get out there, a guard or the center step back, he gets pushed back, he's trying to brace himself, he steps on the. The quarterback foot and then, you know, things like that happen. But the jets fans will be very, very, very, very, very, very disappointed if, like, bro, he got hurt by his own teammate and we ain't even get to the game yet.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Practice.
Shannon Sharpe
Practice.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But it happened practice at that.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes. I mean, dislocated. I broke my eye socket. My teammate did that. I'm like, damn. Friendly fire gets you, Ocho. You know, you blocking, you get rolled up.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Keep them feet moving, boy, you gotta stay moving.
Shannon Sharpe
Don't you moving. Hey, Joe, that was the thing. Hey, I tell the running back, okay, since you want to run up my back. Hey, okay, don't worry.
Joe Johnson
It seemed like every player in football risky.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah, absolutely. Some of the worst that I see.
Joe Johnson
When I be seeing guys blocking and people be falling on them and they don't know. Damn.
Shannon Sharpe
Yep, yep. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The best, best thing you do, especially for linemen, Lyman is hard for them to keep their foot. Feet moving. But when people fall on top of you, just let your body go. Don't fight it. Just let your body go and fall with everything.
Shannon Sharpe
But a lot of times you see guys, they don't. They can't because they. They getting held up on you. You know, sometimes you block it and then somebody rolls, roll you up.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Colin Cowherd
You're Right?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You're right.
Shannon Sharpe
Ain't that you could do, but you're right. That's. That's the thing is to try to let your body go limp and to take some of that energy out of it. But man, but I sure hope Justin Fields get healthy soon. Ocho, you're not gonna believe what. What? Raiders are releasing DT Christian Wilkins with the designation of terminated vested veteran. The reporters. The Raiders reportedly voided the remaining 35.2 million guaranteed money left on Wilkins contract last month due to how he treated the rehab from the foot injury he suffered last season. Raiders released a statement and it reads, as such. We have decided that is in the best interest of the organization to move on from Christian Wilkins and he has been informed of his release from the team. This franchise has a commitment to excellence on and off the field with no clear path or plan for the future. Return to play from Christian. This transaction is necessary for the entire organization to move forward and prepare for a new season.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, you know what? That. That lets me know there's language in the contract somewhere because they just said they voided keyword guaranteed. The fact that they can get void guaranteed money means there's language in the contract somewhere that says if you do not do X, Y and Z, then legally we can take your money back to you, even though it's said guaranteed.
Shannon Sharpe
Check this out. The NFLPA has 50 days to file agreements on Christian Wilkins behalf after The Raiders aborted 35.25 million worth of guaranteed money in his contract on June 4.8 million for this year, 27.25 for the next year. The grievance was filed this morning. A legal battle.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. What do you do? What you think he did wrong?
Shannon Sharpe
The same thing. I guess he. I guess he wasn't there rehabbing or. They said he wasn't taking the rehab. Hold on. Let me go back and see what they said he's been in. Hold on. It said last month due to how he treated the rehab from the foot injury he suffered. Remember The Cowboys took 500,000 from Trayvon Diggs. Why? Because of how he treated the rehab. They said he wasn't there enough. They didn't felt he was taking it serious enough. Remember Ocho? Also the Milwaukee Bucks? What did Dame want to do? He wanted to train in Portland to be close to his family. They said that they didn't want to jive with that and they didn't want to get into it. They say the best thing for us to do is to just move forward. Now it seems like the Raiders are Trying to extract. Get that. Hey, we don't. We don't want to pay that. We ain't trying to pay 35 million.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I see what the teams are doing, and I understand. I. I see their side is okay. You're hurt, you're injured. We want to be able to track how far along you are. We want to see where you are to make sure. Make sure not listen, they rehabbing. No matter what. They gonna do that because they do. They want to play football, but they just want to be on top of how it's going, who's doing it, what's being done to make sure that you're doing everything you can to get yourself back on the field in a timely manner. That's the only reason they're doing. That's the only reason Trayvon Diggs was fine. Because we can't see it. We don't know exactly what you're doing. You can say you're doing it, which I. We know you are, but it's not to our satisfaction because it ain't coming from us.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know how y' all do it, but, Joe, but you know this, okay, I invest some money. So I got stock in this, this, and this. You know what them people do, Ocho, that says, okay, here's your tracker. You can track it also, if you just tracking it and I don't track it right. You could tell me anything. But I can see. Hold on. Why you buy some more of that? Who told you to sell that if there, if you're not there? Because you got to realize it. These guys are investments to these teams. Ocho, like you speak about it, what was his so guaranteed he got like 80 something million guaranteed on Joe, you don't think these people gonna watch out for their investment to make sure they're trying to get a return on their money? That's the whole purpose of an investment, is that I'm trying to get a return on that investment, bro. Look, like I said, I don't really know. I mean, look, this is what the Raiders are saying. I'm sure if you were to talk to Christian Wilkins and his representative, they'll tell you something different, but I do understand. But these teams. These teams for. I remember in the. In the Super Bowl, I tore my mcl and was. It was a grade two, grade three string, Ocho. I stayed. I. Once we got back, I stayed there for like five weeks after the season. You don't think I wanted to go home? I could have met, but I stayed there. Got that thing like 80, 90%. Greek says, hey, the athletic trainer, Steve Antonopoulos, we call him Greek. He said, sharpie, you can go home, but I'm gonna need to see you in a month to make sure this thing is fully healthy. No problem. No problem. And I damn sure, boy, look here, y' all got. Y' all guarantee me how much? 84 million. I'm staying there with you. I'm getting that thing 1000% on their daughter. I'm getting all that.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
When the season over, them boys trying everybody down. They trying to get up out of there.
Shannon Sharpe
I think.
Joe Johnson
I think in Dame's case, though, with him knowing he gonna miss the whole season. Uncle Ocho, I think, you know.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Joe Johnson
You know, probably just put him in a better head space being around his family, which, no, I kind of understood. I don't. I don't feel like he's a guy who's gonna shortchange you, but, you know, I get it. Maybe they want to already get rid of them anyway, because if he. You know what I mean? So they did.
Shannon Sharpe
Because you know what? Joe Dame never wanted to be there in the first place. Dame wanted Dame. See, first of all, Dame let the fans and this ring culture force him out of Portland, right? He never wanted to leave Portland, but he felt. He felt in order to appease a lot of people that kept putting pressure on him, he need to go somewhere, man. Step done play for a championship. Luca done played for a championship. This one, I'm playing for a championship. Dame ain't never been close to playing for his championship. They got him up out of there, but he went to a place that ain't where he wanted to go. He said he wanted to go to Miami. Well, Miami didn't have. Didn't offer the package that Minnesota offered. Excuse me. Milwaukee offered. So they ended. I'm trying to get the best deal. Ocho. I understand you my boy, Ocho. Hey, I'm gonna do everything I possibly can. But you know, oo where you want to go ain't offer me what this place over here, right? So you might have to do a kawhi. You might have to do a detour. You might have to go somewhere for a year and let them move you. But I got to take the highest price, and for them. Joe, let me know what you think. It seems to me when somebody take the steps that Milwaukee took, it seems like to me now, maybe I'm exaggerating.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
But I think they were overdone. They realized that this thing wasn't going to work. Ocho, that's $111 million.
Joe Johnson
It's just. For me, I think they were thinking, like, the injuries, I mean, they. I mean, he's pretty much been injured over there every year, so they can never get full potential into what they could be. I'm going to be honest with y'.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
All.
Joe Johnson
I was excited about him going to Milwaukee. I know he didn't want to go there, but I just thought him and Giannis will bring a different element to the Eastern Conference that a lot of. A lot of these teams won't be able to match. And the fact that he had to deal with these injuries the past two years, man, they. I just feel like they was like, well, you know, our time is up on that. You know what I mean?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, he was injured. Giannis was injured his first year. Then he got. Then he, you know, kind of nicked. He was licked early then. Now they say, you know what? Let. Instead of trying to let this thing play out, let's go ahead and cut the cord. Cause sometimes, Ocho, people like, well. Well, maybe we can salvage it. Nah, bro, you burnt this. Let's don't. Let's not peel this burnt edges away and try to eat the insides. Nah, bro, just go ahead and throw this whole ish in the trash and move on. And let's try to get another dish going, because that's what happened. They were like, we're not trying to salvage this. Yeah, we already know what it is. And it's a situation where I'm sure Giannis is frustrated, because Giannis said, like, these superstars, they keep their foot on these teams neck. Because I want to compete for a championship every single year, man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It's unfortunate. It's funny how they do. They don't see value in you anymore. Once you get hurt, once you get in, that's it.
Joe Johnson
That's enough, man.
Shannon Sharpe
You've been that. Well, I don't know if you've ever been there, but, Joe, you've been there. I've been injured. They don't even talk to you. You get hurt, man, they don't even talk to you. Hey, hey, hey. You getting close to getting. How you feeling? 84 you. You ready? You ain't scared, are you, bro? The last three weeks, you ain't say a damn word to me. Now I'm a couple of days away from returning. Now you asking me how I feel? You should have asked me.
Joe Johnson
That hurt. I ain't gonna lie to you. There's lonely being hurt.
Shannon Sharpe
Man. That's the worst, man. I broke my collarbone, man. I should have had this thing replaced it. I mean, it come. I don't broke out of the skin. And so there's like. It's gonna be like. It's gonna be like, that was week. That was week four. I broke it. So they say it's gonna be like eight to 10 weeks. So Ojo, you know, I'm saying, I go and like week six, I'm. I'm, you know, I'm running on the treadmill, man. I try to open up all the scar tissue loose. Now I'm go. I'm gone for the rest of the year.
Joe Johnson
You got in your own damn way. Then y' all.
Shannon Sharpe
Tried to rush back. You know, I had a thing. I said, man, you know, I feel. Hey, oh, yo, you know, I feel pretty good. You know, I'm thinking of that. Let me. Let me open this thing. Let me open it up. Yo, I got geek Joe. I was feeling good, too. I best ride a light crack. Damn, I hit that button.
Kyle Pitts
Man.
Shannon Sharpe
I got that up there. Hey, as a matter of fact, they knew it was bad. Cause they sent me to. They sent me to New York, I think, and saw the Giants team doctor. He said, yeah, you. You tore the scar tissue, the cartilage loose through from there. He said, that's a. That's a six weeks injury. That's raffle Shannon. Yeah, I let him gas. Well, they gas me up, though.
Joe Johnson
Hey, I'm trying to get back too fast.
Shannon Sharpe
Check this out. Oh, there's a video that has surfaced today of Wilkins dancing in the Raiders facility to Backstreet Boys just a few days ago. Check out this video, guys.
Joe Johnson
Oh, he already knew what was going on.
Shannon Sharpe
A lot of times all they want to do is get your video. Joe, I don't know if y' all did this, but I. I could explain something. A lot of times guys are like, man, I'm hurt. I'm hurt. I mean, I can't go out there. And they say, look, we just want you to go out there, just do a couple of walkthroughs. They put them pads on, they go out there and they do the walk through. And when they come back in there, they get that little tap on the shoulder. They want to see you upstairs. They already got your own film.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, okay, okay.
Shannon Sharpe
They got your feeling. Now, I ain't telling what somebody told you. I'm telling you what I know. Hey, hey. That's all they want to see. Hey, you going through the a. See upstairs.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, so hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Camp now. Started right? His. His homie unknowingly incriminated him by posting it on Instagram, not knowing that they going through something already. And they use that video against him, and they got him up out of there.
Shannon Sharpe
There are reports. This is reports. We don't know if it's true or not, saying that Wilkins refused surgery when the team recommended Ocho. You remember the Michael Thomas situation? He had all off season, and this man had surgery in June. The situation with Wilkins in Vegas has been simmering for months as both sides disagreed on how the foot injury and recovery should be handled. Christian Wilkins made 29 million last year and had already 25.5 million already this year. That's $50 million. $49.67 million.
Joe Johnson
Hold on. He trying to get out of there. He trying to get out of there. Uncle Ocho.
Shannon Sharpe
So he was gonna make seven. Oh, he's gonna make seven million. Which would have pushed the total to 50. Basically about 57 million with another 27.5 do. Therefore, it lies 84.5 million guaranteed. Hey, y' all want me to have surgery? Okay. Now, when I can't come back and play, remember, y' all recommend what surgery.
Joe Johnson
You supposed to have.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Someone.
Shannon Sharpe
He had. I think he had a. Liz, Frank. I think he had a foot. He had a foot injury.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, if you have a list. Frank, do you actually need. If you need surgery, or is it optional?
Shannon Sharpe
Sometimes. Sometimes they recommend it, but at the end. Look, Ocho, remember how I told you if I'm gonna get hurt, I'm gonna get hurt on team time. If I'm gonna have surgery, I'm gonna have it on your time. So when. If it goes awry. Remember what you said?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay? Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Damn.
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, he could go. Okay, you. I. I got a doctor. Your doctor says this. Okay, let's go get an independent doctor. Somebody that doesn't. Because my doctor's gonna look out for the best interest of me. Your doctor's gonna look out for the best interest of the team. Let's go get somebody that ain't got no dog in the fight. Let's go to Anderson up in Charlotte. Let's go to get somebody at the curling Joel Clinic out here. Let's go see the Andrew. Hey, I know. Hey, I got time. I got another time. I'm gonna go see James Andrews. I'm gonna go see Steadman Hawkins. I'm gonna go see Dr. Anderson up in Charlotte. I go see Watkins. I don't care. I'm gonna see five or six Doctors, what is the best treatment for this? Okay, y', all, here's the X rays. This is the. This is what's going on. What is the best course of action? Do I let this heal on its own? Will it heal on its own? Or do I need to have surgeon have this thing fixed? What do you guys recommend? Okay, I got seven, eight different opinions. Six of them says have surgery. Nah. Six of them says let it heal. Two has surgery.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Man, listen, you know your body. You know your body and everybody else. He felt he didn't need surgery, obviously, but with training camp starting.
Shannon Sharpe
He has a Jones fracture. Let me take that back. I said, Liz Franks, he has a Jones fracture.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, well, that needs surgery there, baby. You heard me.
Shannon Sharpe
I think he had. Already had, sir.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hold on. What's the jones? What's the jones. What is that? Oh, Joe, y' all gotta break that down for you, boy.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, but listen, don't. Don't get me the line, boy. I ain't never been hurt, so I. I know Jones.
Shannon Sharpe
A Jones fracture, also known as the fifth metatarsal fracture, is a break in the bone that connects the pinky toe to the foot base. So the pinky toe, the little bone that's right here.
Joe Johnson
You need that, boy?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, hold on. Hey, I would. Hey, I would.
Joe Johnson
I would.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I would have got.
Shannon Sharpe
There it is right there. Yeah.
Kyle Pitts
Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Y' all see that?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, hey, hey. I would have got that done right right away, boy.
Shannon Sharpe
And that's not. That's not a small, man. Oh, no, that's a large.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
You gotta think about it. That's a large man on that. He do. And he's quick. He's agile. His whole thing is playing with quickness.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I wonder why he wanted.
Shannon Sharpe
He had surgery last October, but the rehab didn't work, and he needed surgery again per team. Yeah, I went and got it.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I got that.
Joe Johnson
Play no game.
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho. Ocho, this is not like I'm in a contract here. I got 84 million guaranteed, and I'm in Las Vegas with no state income tax.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I guarantee. I guarantee you get picked up. I can tell you where you're gonna go to.
Joe Johnson
Where you going, Ocho over there with.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The star on the helmet. Because it's not. It's not a one.
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Shannon Sharpe
But here's the thing, though, Ocho. If he's not healthy, can he pass a physical?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I understand the game he playing.
Joe Johnson
He trying to. He trying to put eyes on Joe.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Man, listen, I'm.
Joe Johnson
I'm.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Man, listen, he might. You never know how a player feel if you. If you saying one thing and they trying to force you to do something else. And it basically got the player feeling like, well, damn, you really don't care about me. You just want me to get out there on the field.
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho, no. Ocho. They telling him to have surgery?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, but he's trying to do it his way without. Without having to have the surgery. I already. 1. I'm not going back under the knife again. I'm gonna wait till he heal on his own. Then when I feel I'm healthy enough, I'm gonna get on the field. That guy. That's. That's the only. That's the only. Only, only thing it could be.
Shannon Sharpe
But you can't be dancing in the locker room. You can't be dancing the training room.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's hard.
Shannon Sharpe
You know, they can. Ojo. I don't know how Cincinnati do it, Joe. I don't know how they do it, but in Denver, yeah, we had cameras everywhere. The meeting room, big meeting room, small meeting room, training room.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, that was lock. Somebody posted that, though.
Shannon Sharpe
That's.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's a. That was a.
Shannon Sharpe
But I'm. But. Oh, they got cameras in there, too. But what. And again, Ocho, why. Why would you. Why are you dancing? It's like if you injured. Ocho, you know this, Joe. You know this. If you injured. If they found. If you injured and you out, boy, they gonna act. They're gonna act a fool. It's like you injured and you out.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Man.
Shannon Sharpe
You know, Hey, I. Bro, you can't. There's certain. There's certain things you have to do, and people that. That. That's not in this profession don't understand. But I got a life outside of this, bro.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, you don't.
Shannon Sharpe
They paying this, man. They're paying this man $84 million fully. Guaranteed. Guaranteed. They paying you X amount of dollars, bro. If you injured. You can't be going out to the club. It's hard. It's hard to go out. And with a friend, with a sports.
Joe Johnson
Franchise nowadays, it's hard to do any damn thing.
Kyle Pitts
Yeah. Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
They use. It used to be before I got there, like, a couple of years before I got there, the Broncos used to stay at home the night before the game. But after a couple of DUIs, a couple, you know, people getting in fights, they said, no, take your ass to the hotel. And so. And. And now, Ocho, you know, if somebody is out before the night before the game, before the game, the night before the game, or if you injured Ocho, let's just say for the sake of argument, Ocho, you oo. You ain't played in three weeks. Cause you injured, but you out. You know somebody posted that, Ocho. Yeah, Joe, you know somebody gonna post that? This is why the Bengals can't win no game. This is why Ocho can't get back on the field. Look at it right here at the club now. Now Mike Brown gonna feel.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hold on, though. So on. On game days, even if you're at home, you. They still make you ask you to stay at a hotel.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. You stayed hotel night before the game. Yeah, absolutely.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah, man.
Shannon Sharpe
If you didn't show them, Joe gonna be man, the joker. We had guys go get drunk.
Joe Johnson
Okay. I dig it.
Shannon Sharpe
Ah, man. Hey, hey, hey, Joe bad. Look here, man. We had some guys coming. Yeah, on Saturday morning, bro, hit the shower, man. Just go on and get in the shower, man. You gotta sweat some of that. You got to get that up out you, man. Cause I mean, you smell like a liquor still. I mean, did you, did you, like, take a bath in vodka?
Joe Johnson
Gin chicken hotels, they used to take some. They used to take some of them cats. Mini bars where they couldn't. They wouldn't even have liquor in their mini bars. I'm serious.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, man. Hey, people don't get.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, my teammates be coming to my, Coming to my room. Hey, let me get something about your mini bar. Let me get something about your mini bar.
Shannon Sharpe
No, because people gonna think that I'm. I'm drinking out the mini bar. No. Hell no. And you know, they got the mini bars now. Joe, pick it up. If you touch it. If you don't put that thing back in like, in like 30 seconds that they charge you. Hey, they gonna get there. Hey, hey, hey. I put, I put that little thing on my door. I open the door, right? Hey, what you want? No, ain't no come on shot. Ain't no come on sharp, man.
Joe Johnson
Oh, man.
Shannon Sharpe
But I. Look, I, I hate this situation. I, I really do. Because I, I, I, I mean, Wilkins is a phenomenal player. He's going to the Pro bowl quick. He's agile. He can rush the passer. He can stop the run. I mean, he is a very, very good defensive lineman. And for it to come. For it to come like this. And see this? You see what I'm saying, Ocho? This is why they hate to get guaranteed money. You see, because you. Cause now you. Because now they'll take one situation like this and try to put it on.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The other and use that as as opposed to poster reason on why we don't do it. Yeah, but listen, there's more to the story. Obviously. We're here.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh yeah, for sure. We.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We only know one side. We don't know his side. I'm sure his side is. Is valid. He has a reason for doing what he was doing. And it's unfortunate it's come to this. He's gonna land somewhere because it's too much of a. Too much of a talent at the position and the defensive tackles that can be used and use his service somewhere.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm getting healthy, but I'm gonna get my money back. I'm gonna get that money back.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You think. You think you're gonna re.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know. He might not get. I mean, he might look without. I mean the guarantee is a guarantee. And see that. That's the problem that you run into. Ojo. You see now they ain't just trying to take the guarantee back this year. They're taking. Trying to take back all.
Joe Johnson
But why he wouldn't just have. Why he wouldn't just had a surgery though, and they still was gonna pay him.
Shannon Sharpe
I. Yeah, he done made 50. He had made just a little less than $50 million for five games. There's a good chance that he has the surgery again. He gonna miss this year. So he had another 27 million this year. So basically like 30, 37, 34 and a half million dollars on top of the money that he got.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Matter of fact, not because if you only played five games, right, and they done paid him that much already and you ain't had surgery in the whole off season and now we're going into camp and you might miss this season again too, if you don't get surgery. Probably. Man. Man, the hell with this, right?
Shannon Sharpe
Because they looked at. He had surgery in October, so they probably saw this thing around, what say like March, April, and it wasn't healing properly. So they say, hey, okay, let's go.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ahead and get that.
Shannon Sharpe
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Podcast Information:
The episode kicks off with host Shannon Sharpe welcoming his co-hosts, Chad Ochocinco Johnson ("Ocho") and Joe Johnson ("ISO Joe"). Shannon sets the tone by acknowledging the return of Joe after a significant hiatus due to personal challenges.
[03:39]
Shannon Sharpe: "We’re back. The group is back together."
Joe Johnson opens up about his recent surgery, revealing that he underwent a patella tendon surgery on Monday, marking his first day of physical therapy. He emphasizes that while the surgery is complete, his recovery will require time and patience.
[04:22]
Joe Johnson: "I had surgery on my patella, my patella tendon on Monday. Today was my first day of PT physical therapy."
Shannon and Ocho express their support for Joe, delving deeper into the nature of his injury. The conversation highlights the impact of the surgery on Joe’s ability to remain active, a significant aspect given his athletic background.
[07:05]
Shannon Sharpe: "Right. You didn’t rupture your patella. Done is done. We gotta keep..."
Joe candidly discusses the emotional and physical toll of his injury, admitting that recovering requires him to accept limitations he previously didn't consider.
[10:13]
Shannon Sharpe: "I’ve never heard of it. I’ve never heard of...but you got knees. That's what the doctor ruptured."
The episode transitions smoothly as Shannon introduces Kyle Pitts, a Pro Bowl tight end from the Atlanta Falcons, to discuss the upcoming 2025 NFL season. Kyle shares his excitement about the season's start and the growing chemistry within the Falcons' offense.
[18:58]
Kyle Pitts: "Appreciate y’all having me. How y’all doing?"
Kyle elaborates on his rookie year achievements and the challenges posed by injuries and quarterback changes, emphasizing the team's focus on progression and building a strong, cohesive unit.
[20:56]
Shannon Sharpe: "How difficult is it? You have an outstanding rookie year, as Ocho mentioned, over a thousand yards. There hadn’t been very many tight ends to come in as a rookie and get a thousand yards. Now you get that. So the expectations are through the roof because..."
Kyle delves into the specifics of the Falcons' offensive strategy, discussing the importance of continuity at the quarterback position and the integration of new and returning players. He highlights the team's aim to capitalize on their talent pool to achieve success in the upcoming season.
[22:56]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson: "You would in the second, your second year in this system? How comfortable are you with the offense where you don’t have to think anymore. You can hear the play call, you go out there and you can just line up based on whatever in front of me. You can just go without having to think."
[23:12]
Kyle Pitts: "Yeah, Very, very confident. And like I said, it's year two. We've been working in the summer just mentally and physically. So it's just, you know, so now we're here in camp, we're not taking a step back, right?"
The discussion shifts to a comparison of Kyle Pitts with some of the greatest tight ends in NFL history. They analyze Pitts' playing style, strengths, and how he models his game after legends like Tony Gonzalez and Jason Witten.
[32:22]
Shannon Sharpe: "Give me your top five tight ends of all time. You study position, played the position. Hey, and keep it a stack. Keep it a stack. If I ain't in the top five, I'm cool with that."
[33:11]
Kyle Pitts: "Definitely you, Tony G. Mike Dick, who was the start before. I would say Jason Wynton is someone who I feel like in high school when I really started to learn about the tight end position..."
A significant portion of the conversation addresses the controversial release of Christian Wilkins by the Raiders. Shannon outlines the team's decision to void Wilkins' remaining $35.2 million in guaranteed money due to concerns over his rehabilitation from a foot injury. The hosts discuss the implications of this move, comparing it to similar situations in other sports.
[48:00]
Shannon Sharpe: "But here's the thing, though, Ocho. If he's not healthy, can he pass a physical?"
[49:57]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson: "Well, you know what? That lets me know there's language in the contract somewhere because they just said they voided keyword guaranteed. The fact that they can get void guaranteed money means there's language in the contract somewhere that says if you do not do X, Y and Z..."
Drawing from personal experiences, Shannon and Ocho provide insights and advice on managing injuries, both physically and mentally. They emphasize the importance of proper rehabilitation, mental resilience, and maintaining a positive outlook despite setbacks.
[55:42]
Shannon Sharpe: "But you can't be dancing in the locker room. You can't be dancing the training room."
[56:20]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson: "Man, listen, you know your body. You know your body and everybody else. He felt he didn't need surgery, obviously, but with training camp starting."
Towards the end of the episode, the hosts briefly touch upon the injury sustained by Justin Fields during the Jets' training camp. They discuss the severity of the dislocated toe and its potential impact on Fields' season, comparing it to previous injuries in the league.
[42:26]
Shannon Sharpe: "Justin Fields was carted off the field doing Jets training camp. The official Jets account put an update saying after a medical evaluation, Justin Field sustained a dislocated toe in his right foot and will be day to day. Fields avoided serious injury and significant missed times."
[64:53]
Shannon Sharpe: "He had surgery last October, but the rehab didn't work, and he needed surgery again per team."
Shannon wraps up the episode by reflecting on the discussions, offering final thoughts on the importance of staying focused and healthy in professional sports. He encourages listeners to support the Falcons in the upcoming season and teases future episodes.
[72:58]
Shannon Sharpe: "But you can't be dancing in the locker room. You can't be dancing the training room."
[73:11]
Chad Ochocinco Johnson: "Ahead and get that."
[74:44]
Shannon Sharpe: "We finally switched to T Mobile because with them we can be connected here and there..."
Joe Johnson on His Injury:
[04:22] "I had surgery on my patella, my patella tendon on Monday. Today was my first day of PT physical therapy."
Shannon Sharpe on Tight Ends:
[32:22] "Give me your top five tight ends of all time. You study position, played the position."
Kyle Pitts on Team Chemistry:
[23:12] "We've been working in the summer just mentally and physically. So it's just, you know, so now we're here in camp, we're not taking a step back, right?"
Chad Ochocinco Johnson on Team Investments:
[51:42] "They’s paying this man $84 million fully guaranteed. They're paying you X amount of dollars, bro. If you injured."
Support and Resilience: The episode underscores the importance of support systems among athletes and the resilience required to overcome injuries and setbacks.
Team Dynamics: Discussions highlight how injuries impact team dynamics, player roles, and contract negotiations, exemplified by the Christian Wilkins situation.
Future Prospects: With Kyle Pitts joining the conversation, the focus shifts to the future prospects of the Falcons, emphasizing growth, strategy, and the anticipation of the 2025 NFL season.
Historical Context: Comparing current players to historical figures provides listeners with a comprehensive understanding of player development and position evolution.
Injury Management: Personal anecdotes and professional insights offer valuable lessons on managing and recovering from injuries, both physically and mentally.
This episode of Club Shay Shay offers a blend of personal stories, professional insights, and engaging discussions that cater to sports enthusiasts looking to delve deeper into the lives and careers of their favorite athletes.