Nightcap Hour 1: Unc & Ocho & LaDainian Tomlinson react to TCU BLOWING OUT Belichick's UNC & Saquon NO. 1 in NFL's Top 100!

Summary

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Club Shay Shay – Nightcap Hour 1: Unc & Ocho & LaDainian Tomlinson React to TCU BLOWING OUT Belichick's UNC & Saquon NO. 1 in NFL's Top 100!

Date: September 2, 2025
Host: Shannon Sharpe
Guests: Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, LaDainian Tomlinson

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Episode Overview

This Nightcap Hour episode features NFL legends Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson, and LaDainian Tomlinson (LT) in a candid, energetic roundtable. They break down TCU’s dominant win over Bill Belichick’s new-look UNC Tar Heels, analyze the challenges of transitioning legendary coaching talent to the college game, discuss the NFL’s new Top 100 ranking with running back Saquon Barkley at #1, and explore shifting values in the running back position. Authentic stories, locker room wisdom, and laughs abound in this engaging Nightcap conversation.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. TCU Blows Out UNC: A Tale of Talent and Transition

[09:12–18:25]

• TCU’s Dominance: The hosts discuss TCU's 48–14 rout of Bill Belichick’s UNC in his college coaching debut. LT, a proud TCU alum, attributes the win to Horned Frogs’ veteran roster and their ability to run the ball to close out games—something they’d previously struggled with.
  • LT: “We have a veteran team, man...when you have a veteran team, guys that have, you know, been in some tough games...you’re supposed to win a game like this versus UNC who has brought in a lot of transfers.” [09:59]
  • TCU racked up over 500 yards of offense; their physicality and depth overwhelmed UNC.
  • Sharpe’s signature humor: “Thought we gonna have a good game...Coach Belichick might have got him a stanker, but...they just pooped on the field.” [08:36]
• UNC’s Struggles & Belichick’s Challenge:
  • Ochocinco sees Belichick’s coaching acumen as UNC’s lone bright spot, noting that coaching can’t overcome evident talent gaps: “They weren’t outcoached, but they were outclassed because of the level of talent that TCU had." [12:50]
  • The hosts note UNC looked better with backup QB Max Johnson and discuss whether Belichick would consider a quick quarterback change. Sharpe: “You can only have a lot quicker hook in college than you do in the NFL...” [13:38]
  • Defense, usually Belichick’s calling card, could not stop TCU in any phase, prompting the group to discuss the limits of X's and O's when personnel isn’t up to par.

Quote:

"At the end of the day...it ain't no X's and O's because you can have all the minds you want to. It's the Jims and the Joes that's going to determine how good those X's and those O's actually are."
– Shannon Sharpe [17:16]

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2. NFL Top 100 Surprise: Saquon Barkley at #1

[19:06–29:59]

• List Unveiling:
  • Sharpe unveils the NFL's Top 10 players, highlighting the dominance of SEC alumni and the presence of two running backs (Saquon Barkley, Derrick Henry) inside the Top 10.
  • The biggest story: Saquon Barkley voted #1 by his peers, outpacing Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson.
• Panel’s Reaction:
  • LT expresses surprise, pointing to the league’s quarterback focus: “I’m a bit surprised...we’re living in a world where it’s all about the quarterback...Josh Allen is the reigning MVP...Lamar Jackson...had one of the top seasons from any quarterback in history… But [Saquon] obviously had a spectacular year and...won the Super Bowl.” [25:03]
  • Ocho and Sharpe agree Saquon’s dual on-field impact and leadership justified the pick and note how his success is helping elevate the value of the RB position; Ocho sees it as “a no brainer” considering Barkley’s historic season and title. [27:56]
  • Sharpe draws attention to the difficulties for running backs: they’re undervalued, especially compared with quarterbacks, but “when used correctly” their impact is undeniable.

Quote:

"We've talked more about the running back position in 2024 and leading into 25 than we have at any point in time in the last decade...they're trying to say, look, there is still value when used correctly."
– Shannon Sharpe [26:20]

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3. Running Back Value, Economics, and the Future

[29:59–57:30]

• Changing Economics:
  • Panel reflects on the grim economics for most NFL running backs. Thurman Thomas is quoted lamenting how only three RBs now average $15 million/year, while 26 receivers do.
  • Ocho explains, “The tier ones are the ones that are still making the big money...because we know what you can get. One of the few players, one of the few running backs...that can hit the head off the goal post from anywhere on the field.” [53:59]
  • Sharpe breaks down why teams avoid long RB contracts—rookie deal length, franchise tags, and cap structure.
  • Only “game-changing” RBs–those who score, receive, and break games open—may reset the market (“20 million a year”), but it's rare.
• Shorter Contracts:
  • LT argues RBs should push for two- or three-year deals to get paid while they still have leverage; Sharpe explains why team cap and contract rules complicate this.
• Physical Toll & Benefits:
  • The group lobbies for lifetime health benefits for players with 10+ years, citing the brutal toll and high cost of medical care after football.
• RB Evolution:
  • LT and Ochocinco discuss how the great backs of today–Barkley, Gibbs, McCaffrey–combine skills; running, receiving, and blocking, in the mold pioneered by LT himself.

Quote:

"Sometimes you got to plant a tree realizing that you’re not going to benefit from the shade it produces. Sometimes you gotta fight for something that you’re not gonna see the benefits of..."
– Shannon Sharpe [41:35]

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4. Personal Stories, Locker Room Wisdom & Running Back Craft

[57:30–66:45]

• LT on Modern Backs: Asked which current RB most resembles him, LT points to Saquon's jump cuts and balance and Jameer Gibbs' explosiveness and pass-catching. [58:15]
• The group reminisces about the “bell-cow” RB days, fullbacks like Lorenzo Neal, and coaches who believed in ground-and-pound.
  • LT: "I prided myself on being able to do everything. So you didn’t have to say, 'Oh, he can’t block or he can’t run this route or he can’t catch.' I prided myself on that and wanted to take every rep. I was just that competitive." [61:30]
• Ochocinco jokes about his new nutritionist side hustle; LT describes his intermittent fasting and daily routine.

Quote:

“I was selfish. I ain’t coming out the game, dog...that was part of the reason why, like, I prided myself on being able to do everything.”
– LaDainian Tomlinson [61:30]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the limits of coaching without talent: "You can have a beautiful mind with a 10 cent finish, right?" – Ochocinco [16:05]
• On Belichick’s college debut: "They're not good. To make a long story short, guys...When you got 70 new guys, you got 30 freshmen...What do we expect?" – Sharpe [14:16]
• On RB contracts: “The best years on the tire of a car is when it’s brand new…The tires ain’t the same. That’s how they look at running backs.” – Sharpe [49:32]
• Locker Room Humor: “He got one in the...yeah, him and Joe, both of them got properties?” – Ochocinco on home cigar lounges [67:22]

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• TCU Dominates UNC, Belichick's College Debut: [09:12 – 18:25]
• NFL Top 100 Revealed, Saquon at #1: [19:06 – 29:59]
• Running Back Value & NFL Business of Football: [29:59 – 57:30]
• LT/NFL Running Back Evolution, Locker Room Stories: [57:30 – 66:45]

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Takeaways

• Belichick’s struggles at UNC highlight the primacy of talent, not just system or coaching genius, at the college level.
• Saquon Barkley’s rise to #1 in the NFL Top 100 signals a resurgence in respect for running backs, albeit mainly for the few game-altering greats.
• Running backs remain the most undervalued position in the modern NFL’s financial structure, challenged by longer rookie deals, the franchise tag, and short career peaks.
• The need for longer-term thinking among players—about health, legacy, and collective benefits—remains an ongoing locker room debate.
• Authentic, funny, and real: This episode succeeds in blending high-level football analysis with behind-the-scenes stories, keeping it lively, relatable, and insightful for fans.

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This summary captures the heart of the episode: a lively, wisdom-drenched locker room chat about football’s present and future, running back respect, and the old-school work ethic that built NFL legends.

Transcript

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[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

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[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Any, any.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Anytime you're down, it's only for a little bit. It's only hold on. Let me tell you something. It's just the beginning, then.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Just. Yeah. Yes. The problem ain't being down. The problem is staying down. Oh, I would fight like hell to get back to my feet. Come on now, man. Come on, now. Just keep walking over me like Iverson did my boy Tyloo. Oh, no. We finna come up out of here. We finna come up out of here. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp, my partner and co host. He's Liberty City's own. He's Bingo's ring of fame artery. He's matting ratings adjuster. He's the pro bowler all pro. He's Chad Ochoci Johnson. And joining us, our special guest, my dog Charger. Great jets, but we know him as a San Diego Charger. Harry is NFL hall of fame running back home legend. He once held the most rush yards in a single game. LT Ladanian Thomas. What up, lt My dogs.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

What's up, baby bros? How y' all doing?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Listen, listen, before ungo, man, I appreciate you joining us, man. I don't get to see you often, and now that I have a chance to see, I got to tell you, man, it was a pleasure. It was a pleasure playing on the same field with you. It was a pleasure watching you and. And I get the chance to tell you, brother, I love you, man, and I salute you for all you've accomplished, man. For me, it's an honor.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Thank you, Ocho. I appreciate that, bro. We classmates, you know, we came in together. We riding down together.

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[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Whoo.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Chapel. Bill. They need to pray for it because they're going to go get real ugly. Go get ugly before it get better. Ocho LT but 48 to 14, TCU really had their way with them over 500 yards of total offense. They did a great job. They threw the ball well. They ran the ball exceptionally well. And North Carolina, look, I don't understand. It's Coach Belichick's first year there, but you see the talent, the discrepancy. Now, I'm not saying TCU is Ohio State. No, I'm not saying that. I'm not saying the lsu, one of those programs, but they have more talent than the. The Tar Heels. Lt, watch this game. I know you had a vested interest in this game. You're a great alum of tcu. What did you like about what you saw from your ball club?

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Well, to your point, your point, we have a veteran team, man. You know, we have guys that have played a lot of football and, you know, when you have a veteran team, guys that have, you know, been in some. Some tough games, have. Have weathered the storm, you're supposed to win a game like this versus a team, you know, in UNC who has brought in a lot of transfers, it's a lot of turnover. They still don't know what they have yet. So I'm just keeping it honest. We were supposed to win this game. But what I like from my team, like, typically, we can throw the ball all over the yard, but lately we have had a trouble. We had a little trouble running the football to close out games. And you guys know, as an rb, we got to be able to run the football. So that's what I love the most tonight, is when we had to run the ball in the second half, man, we dominated. We controlled a lot of scrimmage. We had like three or four running backs in there running the football. And. And I. I think that bowls well for us in the Big 12.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You took the ball the first play of the drive, the first play of the open, of the drive in the open in the second half, and you go 75 yards. The guy goes 75 yards untouched. So it was a harbinger of things to come. Ocho, you watched this ball game? Yeah, there was a lot of fanfare. Everybody's talking about Coach Belichick. We know what he's accomplished at the NFL level. They started going through all his accolades. The six Super bowl wins, the nine Super bowl appearances, the 17, 18 division titles, and yada, yada, yada. But now he's at. He's coaching players. And I think for. At 4 to a certain point, all coaches have patience, but I think you have to show even more patience now. Even though some of these guys are getting paid, it's not like an NFL roster where every single guy is getting paid. But watching this game. Ocho, what did you. Is there anything. Is there anything you can take positive from what you saw from North Carolina?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I mean, the only thing I can take positive from North Carolina is the head coach of Bill Belichick. That's the only positive thing I can take. You're playing a TCU team, obviously you can see the discrepancy in the level of talent at each position. And one thing that Bill Belichick always harped on, he always harped on is turnovers. You can't turn the ball over, you can't make mistakes. Here's one thing, do your job and everything, everything else will take care of itself. Now, I'm not sure North Carolina schedule and I'm not sure the team they have coming forward, but when it comes to a team that's evenly matched, you know, from skill, from, from, from skill set to skill set, whether it be defensively or offensively, we will get to see a better outcome. From Billet, from, from Bill and that coaching staff. Coaching can only do so much, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

LT Coaches can only do so much. At some point you have to go out there and execute and it's a team game, but it's 11 individuals on the field and you got to win your job, you got to win your individual battle and then the outcome of team comes into play. They were, they were, they, they weren't out coached, but they were outclassed because the level of talent that TCU had.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Tonight, obviously, I think they looked a little.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Go ahead, go ahead.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

I think they look, yeah, I was gonna say I think they looked a little better when the backup quarterback came in. Max. They looked a little bit better. He threw the ball a little bit better. They had a little bit better rhythm to their offense. And if you guys know that's Brad Johnson, so you know he has the pedigree in order to play the position. So maybe they make that turn to the, to this young, young man who is, obviously has played a lot of football. He's been to lsu, Texas A and M. So he's played.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I agree.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Have a question real quick. Will they really make a move already from the starting quarterback after, after just one game, or do, do they give him another chance? Will they make, will Bill make a.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Move that fast the way he looked?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he did. He, he really didn't look good. And the question is how close was the quarterback battle? Because it said, I mean, they said he won the battle. So how close was it, Was it a runaway or was it a last second decision? But I agree with you, LT because this young man is played at the top. He was starting quarterback in the sec. He was starting quarterback at lsu. He was a starting quarterback at Texas A and M. And for him, I'm surprised that he didn't win the job outright. I think we need to give Mr. Lopez a little credit, but he didn't look good tonight. Now, let's. Okay, it's one game. One game is not going to determine. But it's not going to you. You can't have a lot, Ocho. You only got 10, 11 games. Yeah, I can't wait till five games in to say, okay, I'm gonna pull the plug. Nah, it's a lot. You get a, you get a lot quicker hook in college than you do in the NFL because you have 17 weeks as opposed to like 11 weeks. And. But look, they don't, they're not good. To make a long story short, guys, we talk about, oh, they have a short leash, a long leash. They're not good. LT, you mentioned it. When you get 70 training, you got 70 new guys. You got 30 freshmen. Come on, man, what, what do we expect? Yeah, what do we expect? This is.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

And you playing the acc. You playing the ac. You see how Miami look, Miami look last night, man?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes or no? You got, you got Clemson, and you got Clemson in that division, in that, in that. Excuse me. In that conference. So North Carolina, the Tar Heels are going to have to be on their best behavior now. I'm not saying, look, Wake Forest, we'll see what Wake Forest has. And NC State and there are a couple of other teams, the Dukes. But right now, Carolina needs a lot. I mean, I was. What I was most disappointed in was their defense because that's where Coach Belichick, that's where his son, Steve Belichick, they cut their teeth. They're normally. Hey, when you come home, I already knew where my grandfather hat was supposed to go. So when he took it off and handed it to me, Ocho, I wouldn't put it right on the hat rack because I know where it was supposed to be. The Tar Heels are supposed to be able to hang the hat on what? Ocho Defense.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got the greatest defensive mind. And his son.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hold on, hold on, lt, listen, you got, you got the greatest defensive mind, right? When he was with the Patriots, he was the greatest defensive mind, but he also had the tools out there on the field to be able to execute everything he, everything he brought to his mind. Yes, but now you're at the collision.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Level, you might have still need horses to run.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Hey, listen, they didn't stop.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You got to have the talent there. You have to have the talent. Yeah, you got to. You. You can't. You just can't. You can't have a beautiful mind with a 10 cent finish, right?

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

They didn't stop nothing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

LT, you remember, you guys remember we used to be in the game and some other defense, Watch the run, watch the pass. Yeah. But you can't stop either one of them, so it don't matter what we do, right?

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You're right. We gonna do one or the other, but you can't stop either one. That was, that was the Tar Heels tonight. They couldn't stop anything. Guy had one carry, 28 yards, 11 carries, a buck 13 with a 75 yard, a touchdown, seven carries for 28 yard. I mean, 35 for 258. I'm like, Bro, are y' all gonna.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Talk about the receiver? The receiver had what, 10 catches for.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Level for 113 yards.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Yes, sir. Yes, sir. They didn't stop nothing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nothing.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

So to your point, like, they gotta hang their hat on something. Like that's, that's Bill Belichick's mo, You know, to be able to take something away. And tonight they didn't have the horses to be able to take anything.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, and, and, and, and in horse racing, look, a good friend of mine, Bob Baffert, he trained two Triple Crown winners, American Pharaoh and Justify. But at the end of the day, yeah, that plays a role. But he had the fail breads to run. So whether you're Western Soul, Dwayne Lucas, Suge McGahey, Bob Baffert, it does not matter if you do not have horses to run, you cannot win significant races in football. If. Look, and I don't take anything away from Andy Reid and all these great coaches, but you got to have players. At the end of the day, it is the gyms and the Joes. It ain't no X's and O's because you can have all the minds you want to. It's the gyms and the Joes that's going to determine how good those X's and those actually are.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Every time. Every time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But not a, not a great start to Coach Belichick's college career. College coaching career. They lose at home, 48 to 14. And outside of that opening drive, that game really wasn't close. And they took a knee. They took a knee and a goal to go situation, or they could have had a, a family, a party style nugget, a 50 piece on them.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, they gonna be all right, though, lt. They're gonna be all right. They're gonna be all right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know if they're gonna be all right this year.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, no, they're gonna have, they're gonna have some ups and downs, but they're gonna compete they're gonna compete. Bill is the type of coach that even if you losing, even, even with losses like tonight, even with loss to like tonight, that's the type of coach you still want to do everything you can for to only not only appease him, but to prove the doubt is wrong. All those that are going to be talking trash, you know what the media, you know what the media gonna do, they, oh, they're gonna rip them to shreds. They was waiting for an opportunity like this, waiting to see what the debut looks like. And then you go out there and lose the player. The players go, they're gonna step up. They're gonna step up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They're not Gonna fold the NFL top 100. The top 10 NFL players were unveiled tonight and at number 10 was Patrick Sertain. At number nine, Patrick Sertain II. Excuse me. Number nine, Justin Jefferson. Number eight, Miles Garrett. Number seven, Derrick Henry. Number six, Joe Burrow. I don't know if y' all noticed, y' all keep talking about the SEC is dead. But the top, that's, that's four of the top 10 players right there, that from that conference, Patrick Mahomes was number five. Jamar Chase, another guy, I don't know if y' all noticed, but six of the top 10 from the SEC, but that, that, that conference is dead. Number three is Josh Allen. Number two, Lamar Jackson.

[Dan]

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[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

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[Greg Rosenthal]

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[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

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[Greg Rosenthal]

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[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

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[Greg Rosenthal]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

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[Greg Rosenthal]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

And the number one player voted by his peers, Ocho Saquon Barkley.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, my bad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Saquon. Any surprise? Any surprises? Are you surprised, lt, Ocho, are you surprised that Saquon beat out Josh Allen and Lamar to be the number one player in the NFL this season voted on by his peers?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Ltm.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

I'm a bit surprised.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So am I.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Because. Because we're living in a world where it's all about the quarterback, and we know that, and rightfully so. I mean, Josh Allen is the reigning mvp, okay? So you would think that, you know, he would get the most votes from his peers. And even beyond Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, with the type of season he had last year, man, he had one of the top seasons from any quarterback in history. You hear me? So, you know, I'm. I'm very surprised. I mean, Saquon obviously had a spectacular year and, you know, got close to the Russian record of single season, but he didn't get it. And so, you know, that holds weight that he didn't get it. But. But he did win the Super Bowl. So I think players, at the end of the day, are giving him credit for being, you know, going over 2,000 yards and winning the Super Bowl Championship and being the catalyst for that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That Eagles and offensive player of the year.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

That's right. And I think that had a lot to do with it. Look, I think he deserves it. Saquon has. Has really elevated the running back position. The value. The value of the running back position. So hands down, I salute Saquon, man for being the number one player. Respect.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And. And we've talked more about the running back position in 20, in 24 and leading into 25 than we have at any point in time in the last decade. Guys, because of what we saw with Derrick Henry, what we saw with Saquon Barkley, what we saw with a Josh Jacobs, what we saw with Joe Mixon, there were a lot of running backs like, hold on, Jonathan Taylor, hold on. They still got some Jameer Gibbs, don't forget.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So they're trying to say, look, there is still value when used correctly. So y' all want to put them behind? Y' all want to put them behind? Quarter no quarterback. So. So offensive line, look at all these guys that we mentioned. Saquon Barkley, look at his quarterback, look at his offensive line. Derrick Henry, look at his quarterback, look at his offensive line. Joe Mixon, look at his quarterback. Look at his offensive line. Gibbs, look at his quarterback, look at his offensive line. Josh Jacobs, look at his quarterback. You see a reoccurring theme here. But see, but when a quarterback doesn't succeed, boy, they make every excuse in the world. Now all of a sudden the running back knows to see, oh man, he over the hill. There ain't no value in him. And no, yeah, you're right. Ain't nobody running behind that ain't got no line. And if I set my defense and your quarterback can't beat me, I am not going to let your running back beat me. You saw what the Chiefs tried to do in the super bowl, guys, they say we are not letting Saquon beat us. Josh. Jayla Hurst says, okay, you know what, I don't drink no beer, but hold this ginger ale. I got something for y'.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I got something for y'.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Go ahead. OO Are you surprised to see Saquon at the Top? You got two backs?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

In the top 10.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Top 10? Yeah, most definitely. I wasn't surprised at all. Obviously Saquon is a tier one back and those tier one backs are the reason why the value of the run up running back position is now prevalent because of players like Saquon obviously being in the perfect situation. Eagles offensive line, and he's one of the reasons why they were able to reach the super bowl, actually take them over the hump and getting back to the Super Bowl. Obviously we have to give credit to their defense as well, but Josh Allen had a great season, Lamar Jackson had a great season, but I think the, the number one spot was given to Saquon not with just his play on the field, but what he does also off the field and the fact he was able to win a ring with the cherry on top. So it was, it was a no brainer as far as your peers Picking him as number one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. So Saquon Barkley, voted by his peers as the number one player in the NFL in the top 100. Lamar Jackson was second. Lamar Jackson was second last year. Josh Allen is number three. I think he was outside of the top 10. Jamar Chase was way down. He's number four. Patrick Mahomes was number four last year. He's number five.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Whoa, what you mean way down?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think he was 35 last year. Oo. Chase was?

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Yeah, he. He. He was, yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, I thought you said way down.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no. I was saying compared to where he was last year. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Lamar was 2 last year. I think Josh Allen was 12. I think Jamar Chase was like, 35. Patrick Mahomes was 4. Joe Burrow was a little outside of the top 20, I think. Derrick Henry, Miles Garrett. Miles Garrett was number five. Justin Jefferson had. Coming off that sensational year, he got in. I think he got Nick. But Justin Jefferson has been a top player. He's. He's been Mr. Consistent and, you know, defensive player the year. Patrick certain. But I think with. Mainly with Saquan and Derrick Henry, what they were able to do. One guy went for 2000, the other guy went for 1921. First time a guy that's rushed for 1900 yards didn't win the rushing title. So that just goes to show you how well the other guy played. Because normally, LT, you get 1900 yards, you're like, yeah, I got that rush. I got that back in the bag. Yeah.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

What? Absolutely. And let's keep this in mind, guys. The easiest way to win games is still running the football. I mean, because you take away the chances of turning it over and crazy things happening when you can run the football and impose your will, you know, cut down on the game, you help your defense, and all that kind of stuff. So I. I think at the end of the day, that's why we're starting to see just a little shift. I'm not saying we're going completely back to when you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When. No, no, no, no, no, no. Not 90s, early 2000.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Don't get back there. No, we ain't gonna never get back there. But I think there's more teams that's starting to focus on the run, the. The run game a little bit more to control games, especially when you have a young quarterback or a quarterback who can manage things at the line of scrimmage, like all the ones you mentioned on Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, all those guys that have good running backs as well.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's not going back because you see where these quarterback salaries are going. You're about to have a quarterback making 70 million. You're not paying the guy $70 million to turn around and hand it to a guy that's making 10 million. That ain't happening. We pay. We pay. We paying you 70 million to throw it to a guy that's making 40. So that's why you're never going to see. And plus, why would you. Because guess what? I can get a rough in the passer. I can get illegal contact. I can get unnecessary rough justice. I got so many things that can go right if I just throw the football. You see deep.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

But you still putting that $70 million quarterback in jeopardy if you got a defense that's hitting.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, but for $70 million, I'm in jeopardy. You see what Josh Allen. You see what Josh Allen just got this offseason? LT 330 million with a quarter of a billy guaranteed.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

But, you know, you got to think about, too. You got to remember this. NFL 2 LT. This is. This is the passing league. And yes, backs that can take that time off the clock, that can get the defensive rest on the sideline, it's only a handful of them.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

It's only.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

It's only a handful of them. Boys, like, they can really carry that whole office on their back. Well, you don't even have to throw the ball when it comes to crunch time. And you want to buy some time and take some time off the clock. It's only a few now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah. There's only. There's only a handful of guys. I remember when Peyton Manning came to the Broncos. I mean, he was the. He got like 96 million for five years. I mean, just think about that. Just. Just.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Wow.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And. And what? For the longest time, 20, 25 million was pretty good money, but was great money for a quarterback. And then it went to 30. And then they like. No, 30 ain't nothing. Not air. Now you at $60 million. Yeah, $60 million. And guess what, LT. We know this Ocho. They're gonna add another game.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's gonna be 18 games. Oh, I give it five years. They gonna add another playoff game, too. That's coming because YouTube. YouTube won't end on this. This action. They want to become a network. In order to come and network, you gotta have live sporting events. Mainly the NFL. Guess who else want to go on to get in on that? Netflix. Amazon.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Amazon.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Amazon said, you know, look, we love that Thursday night package. We really do. Guys, we don't want you to think we greedy, but we are. We like Black Friday football, that Friday game after Thanksgiving. But I mean, we could really use a package. And you're talking about somebody that's sitting on hordes of cash. Somebody that's sitting on 30, 40, 50, 100 billion in cash. And the one thing, hey, money talk. Cash screams.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So, yeah, we're gonna see what's happening. But it's coming. It's coming. What was it he said, Coach, what you call him, say about 20, 25? He closed. They wanted to be. They wanted to be a $20 billion industry. They're close. 20, 30. Absolutely. They're gonna be 25, $30 billion a year, easy.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

So, so, so let's, let's, let's sit with that one for a minute, because I got a question. Okay, so that means that the season gonna have to be prolonged a little bit because the players gonna want another two by weeks.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We used to have two by weeks. LT before you got the league back in the mid-90s, you had two bye weeks.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, we had two. Yeah. In the 90s.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Wow.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you had two by. You got, you got to have it. But Ocho lt, man, they gonna be playing the Super Bowl. On God, they go St. Patrick's Day.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Right, right. Exactly. That's what I'm thinking.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause you starting out the Labor Day. If you got two bye weeks, think about it. You already at the second week. You already the second week in what's coming. So now if you add another. A playoff game. Yeah. You're gonna be damn near St. Patty's Day. You. You damn sure have the President's Day in February. You're gonna be the third. Hey, you're gonna be the third week. Fourth week. Well, there's only four weeks in February anyway. But you might be playing on leap year and. But that's what, that's where the money is. Because what else can you do? The only thing you can do is give them another game. And there ain't nothing else you can do in the game. Within the game. You can only give them an additional game to create additional revenue.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Revenue. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And these owners, the one thing we know about them, they can know, you can never. That's one thing you've never heard somebody say. People have said, I got too many pairs of shoes. I got too many, too many. Too much jewelry, I got too many cars, I got too many homes. Name the person that's ever said, man, I got too much money.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, you, right. But listen, even you gotta, you gotta remember, too if they are adding the game even, no matter how long it is, if it. The season goes in in the second, third week of February, the players understand, they getting a bigger. A bigger piece of the pie, too. They're getting a bigger piece of the pie and. I don't know. We don't know what it's gonna look like yet.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All I want that pie. OO I don't want any. Don't. Don't franchise me. No franchise tags. I want lifetime. If I. If I get 10 years in the league. LT. Ocho. I want lifetime health benefits. That's. That. That should be a bare minimum. Lt. That should be a bare minimum because let's just say, for the sake of argument, you get health insurance for five years after you retire.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The average career is about two and a half to three years. Okay. You retired 25, bruh. You ain't gonna have no illness. Nothing really major. Some. At 30, you need that issue 65.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Down the road.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. I mean, you can. You can, you know, you can prolong it. You can take the five years anytime you want to. But. But at 30, from 25 to 30. Nah, nah, nah, nah. I won't. If I get 10 years, I want lifetime health benefits. I won't. And guess what? I don't want you to be able to franchise me.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. And all this, well, they got to.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Pick one or the other. You know how this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I want both of them.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Oh, sure. You know how this works. You gotta come to the table and the owners are gonna tell you you're gonna get one thing. Which one. Which one do you want? Do you want lifetime benefits? Well, then that's what we gonna. We're gonna work out a deal to make.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I say you get one.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

And then the player's gonna have to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I say, I tell you what, you get one. You want an extra regular season game or an extra playoff game, you get one.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Hey, hey, listen.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The player.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

The players got one person on alt that'll fight for him. One person. You put me. And you put me in position of power to represent the players. I'm gonna get us lifetime benefits. No franchise tag. And what's the other one? Guaranteed contracts. That's my three. Hey, listen, I'm telling you, L.T. i'm telling you. Once I put that suit on, once I put that suit and that tie on, and you put me in the right room and I flip that switch, boy, it's a rap.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But the players have got to get something. But they bargained for petty privileges way back when. LT Cause see you bargaining, talking about, well, I don't want to do two a days. Well, I don't want to put the pads on. But so many times during the course of the year, bro, you play the game of football, you play tackle football, but you don't want to tackle.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you bargain for petty privileges. Go look at what Roger Goodell bargained for. Look at what they bargained for. Different now, if Roger Goodell ain't taking no hits, he got lifetime medical, he get use of the jet, right? You see what he bar. You see the difference between bargaining, what I'm bargaining for and what you're bargaining for. He want benefits.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

They think a long term too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Even though he's making 30, $40 million a year, he wants someone else to pay for those lifetime benefits.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

But why you think, I mean, think about it. Why as players, the current players, why aren't they thinking about lifetime benefits? Why today isn't that an area of focus?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm not, I'm not going to get a debilitating illness. I'm not going to get anything that's going to disrupt what I've already got. I remember. And I'm not going to call anybody's name because I was in the league when free agency actually happened. Lt and there are a lot of guys, man, you give me a million dollars, damn them benefits, I buy my own health insurance. Now, I ain't telling what somebody told you. I'm telling you what I know. Because I was in the league when the Reggie White and the self joiners, when they filed that petition and it came and we got free agency. And that's what a lot of guys say. You give me a million dollars, you give me $2 million, I buy my own health care.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

And that's my point, that's my point. Because most players feel like that. We invent.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, absolutely.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

We never think about what's going to happen, you know, after we retired, 10, 15 years after we retired, we never think about that. We are warriors. That's. We only think about what's happening now and getting as much money as possible for us to live off of and see what happens.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You get a situation where you get a divorce or you have a couple of kids outside and next thing you know, 5,000, 10,000, 15,000amonth. The wife take halves, she takes half your pension. So now you have the person that you went into the relationship with now long term. Because if somebody would have told me when I was 25, 30, 35, 40, that I was going to have Both of my hips replaced. I wouldn't have believed it. So now you talk about 125000 surgery per. Okay. You get. I mean some of these cancer drugs. You're talking about 30, $40,000 a month.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

A what?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Whoa.

[Shannon Sharpe]

A month. A month. The month. A month. Yes. So like ltd to your point lt, we don't think, we think we're invincible. And things that are, that, that happen to normal citizens that didn't play in the NFL, that ain't gonna happen to us. We, we're not going to become a burden. We're not going to have Alzheimer's, we're not going to have dementia, we're not going to suffer Lou Gehri's. We're not going to suffer things. That is a stress when you have to have 24 hour care. Boy that, hey boy that eat that. That'll eat up a savings. And so they don't, you don't, you don't think about things like that. But I wish the players would think, give it more, more consideration when they think long term. Say like you know what? Okay. Yeah. But a lot of, and plus guys, other sports, they think about the guys that's coming after them.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You see Kurt Flood, he never benefited from free agency, cost him his career. But everybody else that did, you see, nobody is willing to risk anything that might cost them.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And the thing is Ocho and I told lt, I told Ocho this. Sometimes you got to plant a tree realizing that you're not going to benefit from the shade it produces. Sometimes you gotta fight for something that you're not gonna be the benefits of what you're actually fighting for. Think about all the people in the 60s that fought for civil rights.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Come on now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That never got a chance to sit at a, to go to a segregated, non segregated place. That never got an opportunity to do anything but sit in the back. That never got an opportunity to see a black president. That never got an opportunity to. Some of the things that we get afforded. Sometimes you have to be willing to sacrifice some things for the betterment of everything. And I don't think enough people think of it like that.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Well said. Well said. My grandfather worked in the cotton so that, so I could be living in this house right now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Hey, you know, we didn't pick my, my, my uncles and aunt, my uncle, my mom, my uncle's older uncles because they were born, they were born in the 40s. So they, you know, they pick cotton. My grandmother, my mom is the oldest girl. So my grandmother was still Having kids. The oldest girl, what she had to do, take care of the boat, take care of the other kids until they got big enough to get their ass in the cotton field, right? My grandma pregnant and still picking cotton. My grandfather was dipping, dipping tar. Unless you're from the south, you probably don't know what that is, but he was dipping tar. So it was, it was a, it was a different way back there. A few of that Ash told me A lot of y' all in the chat ask me why I get off camera and, and my nose, it's really hard for me to blow my nose because I got a plate in my eye and I have to be very, very careful because I end up blowing the plate out. My nose will start bleeding if I blow my nose too hard. So instead of just blowing it, I just wipe it. And I don't want to be on camera wiping my nose in front of for the world to see. So that's why I just remove myself to the side. So I do have a plate that's had to be replaced a couple of times because I had a fractional orbital, but that's why I'm doing that.

[Dan]

Guys, I'm Dan. He's Ty.

[Tyler (Ty)]

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[Dan]

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[Tyler (Ty)]

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[Dan]

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[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Uh huh.

[Tyler (Ty)]

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[Dan]

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[Greg Rosenthal]

Football is back. That's right. The new NFL season is here and you should be listening to NFL Daily as we march along to Super Bowl 60. This is a show for sickos like me. NFL Daily is your kind of show. It's in the name NFL Daily. You'll have fresh content in your feed all season long. Myself, Greg Rosenthal and an all star cast of co hosts will preview and recap every game all season long. Josh Allen, coming off an MVP season.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

And now lateral to Allen and reaching for the pylon. Are you kidding me? It's a touchdown. Have you ever seen that one before?

[Greg Rosenthal]

Rookies making a name for themselves.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Bulldozer. He is bouncing off defenders and dragged down.

[Greg Rosenthal]

And of course, the Eagles trying to win another Lombardi.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What a game. What a season.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Rather than rewarding running back for production once their rookie contract expire has happened at almost every position. The NFL's 1991 MVP, my dog, Thurman Thomas, is upset that that teams are instead letting them go and moving on to the next younger, cheaper player. You still deserve a contract. The first team has to put you through hell yet I'm still ready to go. Haven't had any injuries. Now give me my damn money. Thorough Tony Associated Press with such a turnover, it's a reason why only three running backs, Barkley, McCaffrey and Henry are averaging 15 million per. And this season, as compared to 26 wide receivers. It's not even the receiver money. It's like we're hanging, hanging with the Pointers and the kickers. You're right. They're looking at it like Ocho. The best years on the tire of a car is when it's brand new.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You drive that car all over the city. You put 50,000 miles on the car. The tires ain't the same. Yeah. And that's how they look at running backs, LT. That's how they look at y'. All. They're like, LT yeah, hold on, LT. We gave you the ball 270 times and you caught 100 passes. That's 370 touches, LT. And you did that one, two, three. Oh, yeah.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's how they think.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, but, but listen, but the, the Thurman Thomas's point, that's how they think with the tier 2 and below running backs. The tier ones are the ones that are still making the big money. Not as much as the receivers, the quarterbacks, but the tier ones that could change your whole offense. Your Tier ones to LT's point that can kill that time and let your defense rest for a little bit, especially in garbage time when it's time to end a game. It's only a few. It's only a handful of those. That's why it's only a handful. Make 12, 13, 14. What?

[Shannon Sharpe]

And damn near 20. Who makes 20 guys? To Thurman's point, Where does Saquon Barkley have to do to go get that money? Whether with the Giants or whether with someone else?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, no, they.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Derrick Henry. Where did Derrick Henry have to go, Ocho, to get that money? Was it with the Titans or was it with the Ravens? And remember last year he played on $8 million deal. He had two years for 16 million.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, but it came back. They came back to him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. So the. Really the only guy that's ever gotten money at the running back position. You got to go back to Zeke. And Zeke was probably the one that really hurt because he was never the same after he got that money. And everybody look. And everybody looked at Zeke and they say, hold on, look at that offensive line he got. He got two for show. Hall of Famers. A potential hall of Famer that retired. The center retired because he's like, I don't want to do it anymore. And Zeke just stepped off a cliff. Yards per game went down. Yards per carry. Get down.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Don't. Don't. Remember. He hurt his knee too. He hurt his knee real bad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He didn't hurt his knee every year, Ocho.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

But, yeah, but see, but see, this is, this is how you solve that. For one, the running backs that are game changing, the guys that can hit a home run from any spot on the field, that can catch the ball and do everything, they're going to be the ones that have to change the game. And when I say change the game, guys, I'm meaning sign shorter deals, strike when the iron is hot. Running backs, two or three year deals, you know, if, if. Because think about it. Most running backs, they can perform and perform at a high level early in their career. Like, it doesn't take long for them to, you know, kind of get. Become a staple in the offense and get going and become one of the top at their positions. It don't take long. So why can't you come back to the table after two and three years and then sign a shorter deal? A two year deal. Two year, let's say two year, 50 million.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you ain't gonna get that, Ocho.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

That's true.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me tell, let me, let me tell you why they're not gonna do it, Ocho. I mean. Lt because in order for me to give you a big signing bonus, I need to prorate it over the life of the contract. So even if I. If you want a two year deal, let's just say LT. You want a two year deal for $40 million and I want to give you. I want to give you. I say I give you $20 million to sign. Well, I only get to prorate that over two years. So now that's 10. So let's just say for the sake of argument, I give you 2 million. So I give you 2 million. That's 12 million. And guess what? Now that's 28. Me, that's 30. Your next, that next year is 38 million cap here, they're not gonna let that happen. So. And plus, when you're a running back and you had a, you're a first round draft pick, I got you for three years.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Five years.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I got you for, I got you for five. Now if I'm nice, yeah, five years. If I'm nice and you on time and you haven't been injured, I'll do the deal after three. But if not, I know I got a fourth year, a fifth year option and two franchise tags. So I got you for seven years and I ain't got to do nothing.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

That's nasty work. That's. That Jerry Jones work you talking about right now. Yeah, the, the next, the next running back that's gonna hit, that's gonna hit big. And it won't be any question about it. There won't be. We don't really value the running back position because we know what you can get. One of the few players, one of the few running backs in NFL that can hit the head off the goal post from anywhere on the field. That's brother. That's brother Jameer Gibbs down in Detroit.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Yep.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Oh, he, he, I'm talking about, he going, he going north of 17, 18.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Oh, absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

John Robinson gonna get paid too.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Okay. Yeah.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

They gotta go above 20 though, guys like in order to reset the market for future guys in their position that everybody ain't gonna get that. We know that everybody's not gonna get that. But the special ones, they gotta get that. You kiss 20.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm surprised that they did this for Saquon because think about it guys. He got a fifty million dollar quarterback. You got a fifty million dollar quarterback. You got a twenty receiver too. You got a thirty million, a thirty million dollar receiver, A twenty eight million dollar receiver.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you got a twenty million dollar running back and you got. Look at Lane Johnson, what he make? Look at what my. A lotta make. Look at what Dickerson make. They paying. Yeah, they did. They just redid Braun. You know, you got to See that. That man child in the middle, Jalen Carter, you got to see him. You got two guys on the edge that in another year, you're gonna have to see one of them.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Listen, Jalen Carter, Finn to reset the whole market at every. At every position.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I don't know if he's. I don't think you're gonna catch Micah, but the, the number. Cj. Chris Jones. Stone Cold Jones for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's at 31 and a half for DT. So he's way over everybody else at the DT position.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, most definitely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You're talking about a guy that's 24, 25, but he don't realize how good he can be. Yeah, he still don't know how good he can be.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, you know. You know why he's not gonna. Not gonna catch Micah or he might not. He. He gonna. He gonna overlap. You're gonna leave overleap. Chris Jones.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Because Howie and Jeffrey always pay early. They're not gonna wait. Yes, they're not gonna wait. They're gonna pay early. You're not gonna turn it down and.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Plugs Ocho the sacks. DT Don't. Like I said, the thing is, what spoiled us was Aaron. Donald.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Donald.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, because D tackle's not supposed to get 20 sacks. LT. They're not supposed to be getting 15 sacks. You stop the run, get us about seven, eight sacks, we have.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Be disruptive.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, but I, I, I agree. But really, the only guy. I mean, you got two. For the longest time, nobody even approached Christian McAffrey's that 15 and Zeke's 15. For years. It wasn't until Christian McAffrey got a new deal from the. The 49ers that that leapfrogged. And then, because remember, the. The Giants didn't want to do anything with Saquon. They made him play on the franchise tag, and then they ended up letting him go. And when he let him go, he still didn't get past the 15. It wasn't until 2,000 yards. It wasn't until offensive player of the year that he got. He broke the $20 million barrier. Think about it. Derrick Henry, he was on a 8 million, 8 to 10 million dollars a year contract. So he goes for 19, 21 and 16, 17 touchdowns before they finally put him at the 15. So somebody gonna, hey, in order to break the to leapfrog Saquon, boy, you, hey, you would have to have an LT season, 32 touchdowns, Offensive Player of the Year, MVP. LT. If you want somebody to get 25 million they gonna have to beat the season because LT had. Damn. 1900 yards, 30 plus touchdowns. He caught another 50 passes for another 500 yards. Unless you're gonna have a season like LT had.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, that was the 05 season, right? When y' all came and played us.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

No, it was 06. Yeah, the 06 played y'. All. Y' all jumped up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The gate.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Golly, that thing was rocking.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I don't know what happened. We. We lost, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But y' all just go ahead and walk them down. We just walked.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Hey, they over there dancing. Hey, we on the sideline clapping at him like, okay, they good. It's first quarter. Y' all did good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

LT when you look around the league today and there's a lot of running back, what running back reminds you of yourself.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Man. That's a good one. I mean, you know, I see traces of. Of myself in different running backs, you know? Like, I think. When I think about the jump cut, you know, the balance, the spin and stuff, say, Quan kind of has that. That low center of gravity. Gravity being able to bounce from hole to hole and then hit the whole explosiveness. But when I think about, like, coming out the backfield, you know, I. I came out the backfield a lot. Gibby, man, give me. Coming out that back because. Because here. Here's the thing that people misunderstand. When you coming out the backfield, you got to come out fast. You can't come out. Yeah. Looking. You got to come out running, man, you know, and so because there's matchups, it's either going to be a safety or a linebacker on you most of the time. So come out running, scare the daylights out of. And then cut off of them. You know what I mean? That's what Gibby does do so well. So I. I think those two. I mean, there's a little bit. Christian McCaffrey Some things that he does as well, man. Yeah, those are the guys.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I don't. I don't think people understand how difficult the running back position is when it comes to those tier one running backs. LT like. Like you Jameer give Saquon. Derrick Henry is a little bit different. He's not like you guys from.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no. He was the old school bell back.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Yeah, yeah. But you or Jamir Kid, for example. And you, too. LT being able to get the ball and be at. Be fast, being able to come. Come to balance and be able to re. Accelerate. Right, right, right then and there. And being able to set, set, linebackers up, set, set, safeties up, still make a Move and not move and not lose any. Not momentum, but. What's the word? No wasted movement. That's what I'm looking for. No waste of moving everything, everything in one. In one, in one transaction, one transition. Everybody can't do that, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I told a man, stop letting LT run that damn Texas right on y'. All knock his ass down, look across y' all damn face. He gonna run the flat. He gonna come up and make you think he gonna run Texas across your face or he gonna break it out on your ass and haul ass on you, man. Knock him down.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

I got to a point though, you know where they allowed me to stay up that seam.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

If you, if you didn't, you know.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

If you stay, if you stayed inside, I just stay in that seam. I did different like that up up in Mile High one time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you can't.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Went by 70 on you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Called us up, we played y'.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think that was my. I think that might have been my first year back. My first year back in Denver, where you hit it for like 200 and had 10 catches. I said, well, damn, where he come from, man? It's like the running back position. Now, lt, you see a lot of guys, they. Because a lot of teams run a two back system. That's not what you had. You had. You were old school tight end, fullback in front of you, low Neil leading. Yeah, leading the way. That, that's, that's, that's what you had in today's game. It's more of a two back system. How different is LT's career if he had to split, have he had to split reps? What do you mean?

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

If I had to, I would do it. I would do it. Like. No, I was, I was selfish. I ain't coming out the game, dog. You know what I'm saying? And that was part of the reason why, like, I prided myself on being able to do everything. So you didn't have to say, oh, he can't, he can't block or he can't run this route or he can't catch. I prided myself on that and I wanted to take every rep. I was just that competitive because I believe if I was on the sideline, something was going to happen that, that, you know, like, I could control. So I couldn't do it today, man. And here's the other thing, like when you're the bell cow guy, you're thinking the long call, Ocho, you're thinking, okay, in the fourth quarter is when I really got to get going. Let me you know, let me get my yards. I'm a step out of bounds here and there. You know what I'm saying? I'm a save myself. But in the fourth quarter, when the boys a little bit. Time to give them the stiff arm, you know what I'm saying? I'm going to run through a couple of tackles. That's when. Because that was something that Marty Schopenheimer instilled in me. Impose your will throughout the game. I. I mean, I hear it playing in my mind like yesterday. That was something he always said, and we live by it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, y'.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, maybe you look. You went to the perfect situation because Marty gonna run the football. Marty gonna run it. Marty, go put that ball in your. In your belly. LT that's what. That's what Marty gonna do.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Hey, but here's the thing, though, y'. All. So in college, think about it. I was a perimeter, right? Like, you know, I. I was a sweep guy. You know, get on the limiter, do my thing, man. When I first got to San Diego and Marty came in, he started talking about running power and going down the A gap. Hey, I used to bounce that thing so much, that joker used to get mad. He used to get stay in the A gap. They trust it. I'm like, coach, ain't nothing I gotta bounce it. You know what I'm saying? But I had to learn. Yeah, I had to learn how to be an inside runner. I didn't want to embrace it at first, but I'm glad I did, man. It did make me a better.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Obviously a better y' all running that power. Y' all pulling guard, tackle, and damn little low. Neil, hell, you kick it out. Pinning down. And then here come load. Deal up in the hole on the linebacker. Now you one on one with the safety.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

Zo gonna clear it out every time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, them old school. Them old school fullbacks like Sam Gash, I play with. I play with Gasher and L. Neal. They coming with bad intention head first.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Neck roll it all.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Hey, low used to say, hey. Before the play, you say, hey, Daddy, get on my hip and don't dip.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let's go.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

That's what.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, they scared a little. Neil, man, Lo. Hey, get low. Neil like one carry a game on 31. You good?

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Yeah, yeah, you good. You good. He bought.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, he bought. He bought in. Lt. Man, you look like you don't. You don't lost some weight. Damn, you don't trim down.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Ocho, man, I'm on this intermittent fasting, baby. Oh, no, you know, yeah, man, I get my workouts every day, man. I feel good, man. I'm at plan.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. LT you might be on the 200, though. LT about.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

I'm about 210. About 210.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You need to come holla at your boy. You know, I'm a nutritionist right now. I'm a nutritionist.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

What that diet like, though?

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You know, the same thing I ate when I played.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man. Hey.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

You know, 11 NFL teams already hired me to help with their nutrition so the players stop getting hurt. No more. None of that. Soft tissue injury? No. Non contact? No. None of that. None of that's happening.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

No. You. You charge it too much, Ocho. You know, I'm on a budget.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I charge 20 a week. That ain't nothing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's still too much.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

I'll mess with you. $10.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, LT so when, what time you eat your first meal?

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

About one o'.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Clock. So you, you get all your meals in between what, 1 and 7? 1 and 8. 1.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

1 and 8? Yeah. 1 and 8, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you going about 14 to 16 hours fasting?

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Yep, yep. I do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You. So when, when do you work out? You work out in the morning. So you working out on the empty stomach. So you do cardio?

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

I am, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

I am, man. So I get, I usually work out about 9 to 10 o' clock in the morning. I get up early, get the kids off to school, you know, and then, you know, I see, I. I will modify with coffee. So I'll have coffee in the morning by 10 ounces. That's it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn. Well, do you know how much 10 ounces is?

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

10 ounces? Yeah, yeah, yeah. About 10 hours.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's a, that's a can of coke. A can of coke is 12 ounces. You got two fuel than that, but.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ain't got nothing on your stomach?

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Yeah, yeah, I love that coffee, man. And then I'll get my workout by that time. By that time, you know, it's, it's around 12 o' clock and once I order food or cook food, it's one, it's one o', clock, so.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead, Ocho.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I'm gonna say.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

You smoke cigars? Yeah, absolutely. Yes, sir. I got a cigar lounge in my house, Ocho.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What?

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Yes, I got a cigar.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, boy, you rich.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

I gotta, I gotta leave home to.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Go to the cigar bar.

[Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)]

He got one in the. Yeah, him and Joe, both of them got properties?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, my brother go. He go on the back. He go on the back porch. Ain't got no lounge in the house. You go on the back, sports and blow it out. Hey, LT People always ask me, it was me, you and Time and Carissa. And we had picked somebody, and I had picked them to win. And Time told me, I didn't do that. And. And you said he did. He picked them. I say, Time, I swear for God. And two white men I picked up and y'. All.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Oh, my God.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But they don't really. Oh. LT the conversation that we had watching the games, me, you, in Time. Yeah, I'm glad because this is what kind of what my mind is, what I envision with Nightcap to be was kind of, you know, we. Yeah, we talk about games, but we talk about a lot of other things, man. Ocho, I was. That was some of my best work. LT Said, man, but, man, he told me, I need to be a comedian. Say, I don't know how. Why you play football? You need to be a damn comedian for real, dog.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

This man said, two white men, like, why it gotta be two white people? Like, oh, they. The stakeholders.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Back then, you know, back in the day, you wouldn't lie before them now because it was hell to pay. You lie before them. But, man, that was some fun times, man. Time and I talked about that, man, that was some great times. Lt thanks for joining us, man. Congratulations on the Frogs going down to Chapel Hill 4814, over to Tar Heels. Come back and join the later this season. Lt I definitely will, man. Always a pleasure, my brothers.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

Love y'. All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Appreciate it, bro. Have a good one.

[LaDainian Tomlinson (LT)]

No doubt. Yep.

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Tune in to all the Smoke podcast where Matt and Stack sit down with former first lady Michelle Obama.

[Sarah Spain]

Folks find it hard to hate up close. And when you get to know people and you're sitting in their kitchen tables and they're talking like we're talking, you know, you hear our story, how we grew up, how Barack grew up, and you get a chance for people to unpack and get beyond race.

[Dan]

All the Smoke featuring Michelle Obama.

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Sarah Spain]

This is an iHeart podcast.