Nightcap - Hour 1: Unc & Ocho react to all the Shedeur HATE & Travis Hunter gets MARRIED!

Summary

Club Shay Shay Episode Summary: Nightcap - Hour 1: Unc & Ocho React to All the Shedeur HATE & Travis Hunter Gets MARRIED!
Release Date: May 29, 2025
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe & Chad "Ocho" Johnson
Podcast by iHeartPodcasts and Shay Shay Media

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Overview

In this engaging episode of Club Shay Shay, NFL legend Shannon Sharpe and former NFL player Chad Johnson ("Ocho") delve into a variety of topics ranging from online criticism faced by young athletes, Travis Hunter's recent marriage, personal football anecdotes, the rising costs of haircuts, to the inclusion of flag football in the Olympics. Their candid conversations are peppered with humor, personal insights, and thoughtful discussions that offer listeners a deep dive into both professional and personal aspects of their lives and the sports world.

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1. Shedeur's Online Criticism and Community Engagement

Shayne Sharpe opens the discussion by addressing the backlash Shedeur (likely referring to a young athlete) faces online. Shedeur expresses frustration over the negativity directed at his family and himself, emphasizing his desire to remain positive by engaging directly with the community.

• Shedeur's Perspective:

  "99% of the hatred directed at me is towards my pops and then I'm just his son... I like going to schools in person and actually meeting the kids and any questions they have." [00:36]

• Ocho's Insight:

  "It's a double standard... Some people want to be humble. They want you to dim your light because it makes them uncomfortable." [02:05]

Shannon and Chad discuss the generational differences in handling criticism, highlighting how younger fans are more supportive compared to older generations who may react negatively to Shedeur's confidence and visibility.

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2. Travis Hunter's Marriage

A significant portion of the episode celebrates Travis Hunter's recent marriage, reflecting on his achievements both on and off the field.

• Celebratory Announcement:

  "Travis Hunter had a busy month. First, he was selected number two overall by the Jacksonville Jags in the NFL Draft. Then he graduated Colorado May 15th. And on Saturday, he got married to his longtime girlfriend, Leanna Lindy." [17:18]

• Hosts' Reactions:

  "I done had everything I want now... He looks so made. He look happy." [20:33]

Shannon and Chad express their happiness for Travis, commending him for ignoring online haters and focusing on his personal happiness and professional growth.

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3. Personal Football Journeys and Reflections

The hosts share nostalgic and motivational stories from their football careers, emphasizing hard work, perseverance, and the importance of believing in oneself.

• Shannon on Self-Belief:

  "If I don't believe in me, who else gonna believe in me?" [03:40]

• Chad on Commitment:

  "I ain't had no choice but to make it... To work. To put all those years." [11:43]

They recount their early days in football, the challenges they faced, and the mentors who shaped their careers. Shannon reminisces about winning the Super Bowl and the camaraderie within the team, while Chad emphasizes the importance of mental strength in handling public scrutiny.

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4. Flag Football's Olympic Debut and NFL Involvement

A heated discussion unfolds about the NFL's decision to allow its players to participate in flag football for the upcoming 2028 Summer Olympics. Chad Johnson voices concerns about fairness and the potential dominance of NFL players over dedicated flag football athletes.

• Chad's Critique:

  "Our best players... will annihilate NFL players... competitive flag football with elites that do it for a living, they will annihilate NFL players." [39:30]

• Shannon's Support for Flag Football Athletes:

  "Let these people have their moment... You in the NFL. Let these people have this moment." [43:13]

They advocate for giving experienced flag football players the opportunity to represent the U.S. in the Olympics without the overshadowing presence of NFL stars, arguing that it could disservice the sport's integrity.

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5. Rising Costs of Haircuts and Personal Grooming

Injecting humor into the conversation, the hosts discuss the skyrocketing prices of haircuts and grooming services, contrasting them with the more affordable times of the past.

• Shannon's Frustration:

  "He trying to show off. I got hold of my. He broke. Hey, listen, so how do I win by now?" [03:40]

• Chad's Agreement:

  "That's a lot... I gotta ask Libby tomorrow." [34:07]

They joke about paying exorbitant amounts for simple services and lament the loss of affordability, reflecting on how societal changes have impacted everyday expenses.

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6. Degree Deodorant Formula Change Controversy

Towards the end of the episode, Shannon touches upon a consumer issue regarding Degree deodorant's formula change and the company's response to fan backlash.

• Product Issue:

  "Degree changed the formula for their Cool Rush deodorant. Their fans rebelled and wanted the old scent back." [41:15]

• Company's Response:

  "Degree listen, that doesn't happen often. They admitted that they effed up and are bringing the original Cool Rush scent back." [42:17]

This segment highlights the importance of consumer feedback and brand responsiveness in maintaining customer loyalty.

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Conclusion

This episode of Club Shay Shay offers a blend of heartfelt discussions, personal anecdotes, and lighthearted banter between Shannon Sharpe and Chad Johnson. From supporting young athletes facing online negativity to celebrating personal milestones and critiquing major sports decisions, the hosts provide listeners with an insightful and entertaining experience. Their conversations underscore the values of resilience, community engagement, and the continuous pursuit of personal and professional excellence.

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Notable Quotes:

• Shannon Sharpe on Self-Belief:
  "If I don't believe in me, who else gonna believe in me?" [03:40]

• Chad Johnson on Mental Strength:
  "If you're not mentally strong, you don't need to be in certain business." [05:21]

• Shannon Reflecting on the Super Bowl Win:
  "Winning that trophy there was... probably the crowning achievement of my career." [25:02]

• Chad on Flag Football's Potential:
  "Competitive flag football with elites that do it for a living, they will annihilate NFL players." [39:31]

• Shannon on Community Engagement:
  "I like going to schools in person and actually meeting the kids and any questions they have." [00:36]

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Note: This summary excludes advertisements, introductory segments, and any non-content sections to focus solely on the meaningful discussions between the hosts.

Transcript

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

The Volume Shadow discussed the hate he receives online while saying he's planning to be visible in the Cleveland community. 99% of the hatred directed at me is towards my pops and then I'm just his son. But the kids didn't grow up in an era where they watched and played. It's just the older generation that does it to me rather than younger people. Because when I come to a person, there's no negativity. I see. But it's all over online. That's why I say I like going to school. I like going to schools in person and actually meeting the kids and any questions they have. I say, just ask me whatever question you want. Pick any question. No filter, no anything. That's what they say. And. And I. And then I just answer whatever they need me to answer. What you think, Ocho? Any truth to what he's saying?

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, most definitely. Most definitely. Listen, is the young folks really don't have a problem with it. They enjoy them. But it's the older kids, not older kids, the older gen, older folks in general. Hating. And yes, some of the hate does come from his father, but also some of the hate is going to come from him. And what he's been able to accomplish so far, what people mistake for. For arrogance or cockiness, which is merely confidence, which is all he's showing. Some people don't like that. Some people want to be humble. They want you to dim your light because it makes them uncomfortable.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. My light hurting your eyes? My light shining bright?

[Chad Johnson]

It might do, but I'm. I'm not dimming it. Obviously, he's. He's a quarterback. The quarterback position is supposed to carry themselves a certain way. It's. It's a way in which he doesn't carry himself and he hasn't been given any grace as opposed to other quarterbacks that were just as boisterous. You know, they don't know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, they love that. Did they?

[Chad Johnson]

And listen, listen. It's different. It's. It's a double standard, but it is what it is. So you understand that. I hope he doesn't change anything. I hope he doesn't change anything. Just put his head down, do the work you need to do and hand handle your business. And change the quarterback position, which hasn't been good for the Browns consistently in a very, very long time. Since number 19.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Since. Since Bernie Kar in the 80s.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And before that, you got to go back to Otto Graham. So they really only had two good quarterbacks. So I'm wishing him well.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm wishing him well, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oo, you're not going to be able to win with people. Because if I dress nice. Oh, he trying to show off. If I dress down, he broke.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You see, Ocho, ain't no in between. No, and ain't no in between. Because it's your. You. You projecting. You're projecting, right? The man's confidence. The man believes in himself. Every. Everybody that's ever accomplished anything has believed in themselves. Sometimes you're the only. If I don't believe in me, who else gonna believe in me?

[Chad Johnson]

Exactly.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When people told me, ashana, you ain't gonna do nothing, I believe the one person that told me I would. Me. Because I was the one that was gonna be lifting that weight. I was gonna be the one that was running. I was gonna be the one that stayed in and didn't go out and party. That was going to be me. Now, if it didn't happen, Ocho, I wasn't gonna be able to blame anybody because I knew what I wanted to become. I knew what I wanted to accomplish. But no matter what you do, if I tell y' all I'm go out there, I'm bragging, then I don't show up and play well. Oh, he sorry. He terrible. Now, I told you what I was gonna do. I'm bragging. I don't do anything. I'm not any good. I dress well. He tried to show off. I got hold of my. He broke. Hey, listen, so how do I win by now?

[Chad Johnson]

I can't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I eat at a nice restaurant, man. I wish I would pay a hundred dollars for a steak, man, them drinks cost $30. They see me eat that. A fast food chain, man, he got. Hey, he can't eat. He with a fast food chain. Cause he can't eat at that hundred dollar plate. You see what I'm saying, Ocho?

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So at some point in time, you just got to be secure in who.

[Chad Johnson]

You are and do what you want to do, no matter what you want to do, can't please everybody.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right? And that. And that's the. That's the. That's the hardest part. Right. Is that because before Ocho, you didn't have all. You didn't have. We didn't have social media, so people couldn't jump in your comments, people didn't have a way of saying anything. I mean, the national media, they might. You know, you had a bad game, they would tear you up. But now, I mean, everybody jump on your timeline. Everybody got something to say. Everybody.

[Chad Johnson]

You. You have to be in a. In an era where everybody is very sensitive. Individuals that are in the limelight, whether it be sports, entertainment. Entertainment, you have to be mentally strong. Mentally strong. You just. You just have to be. And if you're not. If you're not mentally strong, you don't need to be in certain business. Businesses in general, because, oh, they coming for you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Look, everybody's not happy for your success, and sometimes they want to see you successful until you become successful. And then, you know, I told you. Andrew Scholz told me a great quote. He said, the easier it is to make money doing something, the more resentful and envious people become of you. Because everybody feel like they got a voice and they can talk.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So if you making X amount of money, hell, I can do that. Why he get to do it and I can't? You see, everybody realize, bro, I ain't fit to be 6, 9. I'm not gonna be able to run no. 4, 340. I'm not gonna be able to hit the curveball, the slider, or the change up. But talking Ocho, you mean to tell my. With a camera and a microphone, and he can make that. He making that kind of money and making that kind of money.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So the easier it is to do something, the more resentful and envious people will become of you and it. And I'm not. Look, like I said, I wasn't used to this, Ocho. I wasn't. I wasn't used to. Like, I play football. I'm expecting Kansas City to dislike me. I expect the Raider fans to dislike me. I'm on the Broncos. We beat hell out your team. You should dislike me. Right? But when I got into this and I didn't know. I didn't know I had this even at Undisputed. Cause, you know, I was everybody's favorite uncle. You know what I'M saying, Ocho, I was talking about the George Floyd. I was talking about Walter Scott. I was talking about Eric Garner. I was talking about Sandra Blair. I was doing all that stuff. Ocho, we talked about Colin Kaepernick, Skip and I, we talked about it when everybody else had abandoned it and with nobody touch it, we touched it. And I'm talking about with both feet. So I was like, well, I'm on my own now. Because everybody kept telling me, man, you need to be on your own. You don't need to be taking this, yada, yada, yada. I said, okay, man, he'll sell out. He gossiping, he's zesty. It's like, well, damn.

[Chad Johnson]

But they gonna come now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They gonna come. But you know what? And you know, like, Shannon, that comes along with it. I was like, really? That comes along with it. I've always felt I wanted the fortune. Damn. To fade. You know, you hear a lot of people say, ocho, fame and fortune. Nah, I could have did. I could have kicked the fortune.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, I mean, listen, it's nice. The fortune is very nice. I hear a lot of people tweet that out. I want the money, not the fame. Where it's really hard to have one without the other.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It is.

[Chad Johnson]

It's very hard to have one way or another. There, there is, there's. There's no give and take.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, it all depends on how you accumulated it. See, if you accumulated in sports, if you accumulated it in entertainment, right? It's hard, man. A lot of these billionaires, they walk by you. You wouldn't even know who they were.

[Chad Johnson]

No, you wouldn't. You would definitely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You, you would have no earthly idea that such and such is worth a billion, 2 billion, 800 million. Because they didn't make it in a way that you saw them make it, right? See, if a guy playing sports, well, Lebron James has made 800 million, well, 500 million in NBA salary. Tom Brady made 300 plus million dollars in NFL salary. So you can see that. But a guy that invested in Google, that you didn't see, a guy that brought Netflix on the video, you didn't see. Somebody had Berkshire Hathaway, you didn't see. So. And they sitting on tons. Or they got this invested in a startup, Uber, and now they 10x15x30x their money sitting on hordes of cash. Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Walk right by you.

[Chad Johnson]

You never know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Never, never know. But you know what, Ocho? And now you see, it comes along with it. That comes along with the territory. I Feel bad. But I think Shador, being in the situation that he's in and being who he is, I think his dad has prepared him for this. I think he's prepared him extremely well.

[Chad Johnson]

Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Time got it. People say time was selfish. Going back and forth playing football and basketball. Why don't he devote, bro? I mean, think about it. If you can make 20 million doing one job and you can make another 20 million doing another job, you're like, nah, I don't want that 20 million over there. You know, it wasn't like he was doing it on the free. They were paid him to play baseball. He lean two checks and he was good.

[Chad Johnson]

Damn good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, you. But it's tough. I mean, some people are delighting that he got. He went into the fifth round. But I. You know, Ocho, it ain't where you go is what you do once you get there.

[Chad Johnson]

That's it. That's my. That's my favorite line.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because at the end of the day, you gonna have to show one way or another, you for K Ward with the first pick. He gonna have to show what he can do in Tennessee. All everybody. You get helmet, shoulder, pass and cleat. Okay.

[Chad Johnson]

You know, go prove you are what.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You say you are.

[Chad Johnson]

And he. He flying under the radar right now, too. Now because of all the attention.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson]

Then he flying under the radar. I'm wishing him well, too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. I mean, I know you from Miami, but everybody wasn't happy when Ocho went to Cincinnati.

[Chad Johnson]

No, probably not.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. Hell no.

[Chad Johnson]

No, you. I didn't care either. Because one thing that was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's my dream. It ain't yours. Hey, I don't know what your dream. I ain't living your dream. I'm living mine.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, it didn't mean it might matter. Ain't matter who cared or who cared.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Not nothing.

[Chad Johnson]

I knew what was going to happen when I got there. I can tell.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I tell you that I ain't work this hard to have a cup of coffee. Oh, yeah. You know, I tried out for the Broncos. Oh, no. It wasn't gonna be no try. Try out. I don't know nothing about that. Don't. Yo.

[Chad Johnson]

I ain't had no choice but to make it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's it. That's it. To work. To put all those years. Think about how long you've been playing. I think I started playing tackle football at nine.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, I started at four. Liberty City optimist. I mean, Miami Lakes optimist. I never forget.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I started playing football at nine years of age. So nine got drafted at 21, turned 22 like two months later.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So 13 years. That would. I mean, not making it wasn't no option for me. I knew they had something I can do. And now I have a 13 year special team career. But I'll go play in the NFL. Don't give me no chance. Give me a chance if you want to. To get out there. You get the job back.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm thinking about that. Man, that's so long ago.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

1998. Manual Lakes Optimus. I remember my coach, too. Miami Lakes optimus, pythons off 67th Avenue.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Boy, you wasn't no damn four years old in 1998. What the hell you talking about?

[Chad Johnson]

I'm thinking about my first coach. I'm telling you what I can. I can remember and recollect.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You said 1998.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes. I started at 4, but I don't remember my coaches when I started. I'm telling you when I first.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I remember my coach. Dale Dutton.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

My first coach, his mom was a substitute teacher.

[Chad Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And that day at pe smoked all the kids, talking about, you ought to play football for my son. You want to play football, son?

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I like you better. You better. You talk to my grandma. You married, boy, ain't you? Yes, ma' am. Bus dropped me off. The lady let down there, run me over, pull it in the yard.

[Chad Johnson]

Hell no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Listen, I got the bus. Damn. You know, you could have called.

[Chad Johnson]

Damn. Man, that's ate them some good memories, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Dorsey missing with rest his soul. He was my second coach. Yeah.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Cause you know, you, you chick, you, you pick. Everybody got to pick three. You get to pick three players. Because that's how you do it, Ocho. See, like I came, I came late. They had already started my first coach. They had already got the team I already picked. But I was going to play on her team. And I was like, I got to play on his team. Cause he gonna take me home, right? Yo, hey, if you weren't bringing. She had a sharp home.

[Chad Johnson]

I couldn't play, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause. And we didn't have a one car. And my sister wasn't gonna be coming to pick me up from practice, so. Mary. Say, Francis, you gonna fetch that boy home? Yeah, Mary. I'll bring him home. Okay. So she brought me home next year, Dorsey. I went the first round, brought me home and then. What's the guy? Billy Shoemaker? Oh, man, I can't think of the guy's name. Ocho. Damn. Might have been. Was it Dale Kicklider? Dale Kicklider might have been my coach. I got. I gotta ask Libby tomorrow, but I got that ride home, though.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah. And when I played, when I got to high school, Ocho, I know it was a. They weren't supposed to do it. But you had to. Because my aunt. My sister would drop my aunt off to all the football games, basketball games attract me. You had to.

[Chad Johnson]

Sorry.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn. Oh, you had to take my aunt home, right? Yeah, my aunt ride home, it'd be all the guys in my aunt. Hey, hey, Coach, you know my aunt. Oh, yeah, she can. Come on.

[Chad Johnson]

That's dope, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, man. She. She went to every. She. My aunt Jane called the top. She went to every football. Every one of my football games in high school. Every one of my home basketball games. She was there. Every one of my track meets, she was there every last one of them.

[Chad Johnson]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I come out, hey, I get dressed top. You ready to go? Yeah. She get a. She get in the bed. She get on the bus with us. Every one of them. As a matter of fact, my. My. My. My track coach and my high school football coach. Coach hall, actually, he going to the hall of Fame. My brother, he coached my field. Obviously. He coached my mom. My mom graduated in 60. I graduated 86 for 26 years. He coached 50 years, right? Yep. He told the doctor, coach, I'll probably be about I old Coach all mama, 81. So, coach, I should be about 87. He told the doctor, he said, coach, how you doing? He said, I'm doing good. He said, I got one more guy. I got one more boy to get into the hall of Fame. And then, doc, I'm good after that. I don't care nothing about it after that.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, man, that joker. He called my sister. He get in coach all. I don't know. Okay, when you find out, let me know. So he got in, she drove up there and she told him, coach, Holly boy, I showed good so we just booked him his wife reservation, I think the other day. I think Shelly took care of it the other day. That's what makes it special, Ocho. When you have a coach that's been a part of this, he coached my mom, he coached my uncles, my driver's Ed, all my aunts, my sister, me, my brother. And then was a part of it. Cause he lived in Savannah. The home games. I look, I see him on the side. I see him standing over the side. Had a white guy named Billy Strickland, Ocho. Only white guy there. Only come from Glenville. Only white guy at the Hall. He was at the. That man was so proud, Ocho. He said, it's the proudest day of my life. That had to be the. He's a pharmacist. So my grandma would send my sister up there to get medicine. Not have no money. He said, don't even worry about it. Don't even worry about it. Yeah. Yeah. Billy Strickland was at the game, standing on the side. I would see him. Cause he. And obviously he and Coach all knew each other. They be standing there. That's what makes it fun. Coach hall drive. He drove to D.C. drive to Tennessee, drive to Jacksonville, if I'm close.

[Chad Johnson]

Atlanta, you driving.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He coming? Yeah. If it's anything. If it's anything under 12 hours, coach all gonna drive. He coming. We playing Carolina in a preseason game. Coach all there? Coach all there? Yeah, man. Cause you know, when they first started, they played at Clemson, and then they got their own stadium. Coach all coming. And, man, it's so great. It's an unbelievable feeling that he gets to experience. It ain't a whole lot. It ain't a whole lot of guys. Coach 2 Guys that go to the Pro Football hall of Fame. And he got. He's in the. Coach. He's in the Georgia Coaches hall of Fame. Man, he was so proud. He told us me and my brother went up there and went up there for that, man. That's what it's all about, Ocho. Travis Hunter. Travis Hunter had a busy month. First, he was selected number two overall by the Jacksonville Jags in the NFL Draft. Then he graduated Colorado May 15th. And on Saturday, he got married to his longtime girlfriend, Leanna Lindy. He gave her a gift, a ceremony worth at least. At least 600k. It's a Mercedes Benz AMG 63 Brabus 8 Hyundai. Yeah, if they nice. Yeah, they nice. But your boy ain't got that kind of bread. Yeah, bread. Your boy ain't got that kind of Bread?

[Chad Johnson]

Nope.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If they had it, he ain't buying one of them. Once you get to a certain age like myself, Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

About to be 57 in a month.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I done had everything I want now.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, yeah, you want to chill, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I done did it. I done did it. I done did it. I done had the Ferrari and the Rose and the Bentley and the big body Benz and range. I don't had all that.

[Chad Johnson]

Did it all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But, hey, I'm happy for the young fella. Oh, yeah, man. He looks so made. He look happy.

[Chad Johnson]

Very happy, man. Listen, that's what it's about at the end of the day. And I'm glad him and his wife ignored all the haters on the outside. Ignore all the haters. Everybody gonna have an opinion. Everybody gonna have to say this, blah, blah, blah, whatever, as long as they happy. Trav, focus on what you got to focus on. Go out there and turn Jacksonville in Duval county upside the fuck down. Turn it upside down.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We should see Ocho. That should have been us many years ago. Ocho. Never mind.

[Chad Johnson]

Wait. What should have been us?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Married.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, that. I've been trying to get you mad, man. Listen.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What about you?

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, I'm getting married. I told you. 20, 26. I'm not playing. Hey, let me tell you. Let me tell you something. When. When the ball. When that ball. When that ball dropped. December. What? 31st.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Ain't got time to play. I ain't got minimum.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho, you hate me. I had this white linen outfit. I was gonna wear this.

[Chad Johnson]

And listen, you're gonna still be. You're gonna still be able to wear it. I tell you that. Why I ain't got time to play. Ain't nothing out there, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You right. You right. You ain't. You know what? I'll show you. When you're right, you ain't wrong.

[Chad Johnson]

And listen. But I ain't got time to play no games. Right? I'm jumping the broom. Two of them fighting. Two of them, if need be. I told you. Listen. Pay attention now. Think about all the stories we done talked about.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Football players, basketball players, and everyone that's having success. Do you notice what they all have in common? They all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They married.

[Chad Johnson]

I want some of that. I want some of that. I'm telling you. I'm telling. Listen, God a. I'm g. Tell you what grandma used to told me. God ain't finished with me yet.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He.

[Chad Johnson]

I. He wait. He waiting on me. I'm not going to finish the work that needs to be done with you until I have a foundation to build it on. So I'm going to go ahead and create that foundation. Now watch. Now watch. Now watch how everything just start. Just.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Until you pay me my 5,900. When I get on you, I'm going take as long as God took.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, listen, I tell you what, I'm gonna talk to God about it. I'll see what he say. Let me. Hey, let me. Let me tell you, you need to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Talk to me about it.

[Chad Johnson]

Hold on. Let me pray on it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why you gotta pray on my money?

[Chad Johnson]

No, it's not. It's not. It's not about praying on your money. Just. I want to talk to God about it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ain't talked to him yet?

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Oh, we.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We say God, you know, uncle ain't got no patience. And I sure be trying his patience. I need to give him his money.

[Chad Johnson]

Nah, listen, Jesus got the will. Don't worry about it. As long as Jesus got the will be going in the right direction.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I ain't in it. So I need you to pay me my 5,900. I ain't in will. That. That between you and God. I need you to cut me. I need you to give me 50900 in cash.

[Chad Johnson]

I got you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I got you.

[Chad Johnson]

Ain't no pressure. Ain't no pressure.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, congratulations, Mr. And Mrs. Hunter. Ms. Hunter. Enjoy your gift. 63 Brabus 800 them thing nice too. Hello. It's your favorite sports funk here. Don't forget to hit that subscribe button to join the fastest growing community on YouTube. Remember, Night Cap doesn't happen without you, so please subscribe or you're going to make Oo cry. Ocho. During a during OTAs this week, AJ Brown admitted surprise at his current mindset. Coming into the league, we're taught we're playing for this reason. We're playing for the trophy. And once we got the trophy, it was just like I thought, everything would be fulfilled, like the hard work and everything. But no, it's a journey. It's the journey that matters the most, that means the most. Because those are the moments you look back with your teammates, those that spending time with, you're going to war with. You're suffering together, you're winning together. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, once you Look, I wanted to be a Pro bowl player.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I wanted to be an All Pro player and I wanted to win a championship. I ain't thinking about no hall of Fame. I ain't even realized the hall of Fame till Mark Kisler told me in 96. Like man, he's like, bro, you could put together a couple more years. You can go to the hall of Fame. I was like, what? I like. They take seventh rounders in the hall of Fame. They like. It don't matter what round you get drafted in. They go by production. I was like, okay. That was the first time that I had really even gave a thought. Now, mind you, Ocho, in 91, we played in the hall of Fame game. I went to that very building that my bus resides in.

[Chad Johnson]

That's dope.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Not even thinking, man. They never even. Bro, I'm from Glenville. I'm from Savannah State hall of Fame.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And Joe Green in the hall of Fame. Terry Bradshaw, Roger Staubach. The greats of the greats in the hall of Fame.

[Chad Johnson]

Legends.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. But you realize. And it's not good enough to make one Pro bowl because, hell, anybody can do it once.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Can you go back when they know you the guy when they game playing.

[Chad Johnson]

For your ass over and over?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Can you get. Can you become an all pro again when they game planning for you?

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When you walk to the middle of the field, man. Hell of a game shot, man. Ocho. Hey, man, you gave us that work today, Ocho. Hey, don't worry about it. We'll see your ass again. Yeah, that's what I want. I want. When y' all go to the meeting on Wednesday, I want y' all to circle to a. That tight end of 84. We gotta deal with him. And I totally agree with AJ because there's nothing like. That's what you. Ocho. I never miss the game. I missed the bus rides the plane rides the bull, driving in the locker room, in the training room, joking and. And, you know, meeting room, cracking joke. That's what you. Because that's what you're never going to be able to replace, ever. You never. You never. And you. Look, you're not besties with everybody, but you're not going to be around 10, 11 guys that y' all laughing and joking and back. You're never going to be like that again. It's never going to be like that again. Don't you.

[Chad Johnson]

Nah, it's not. And listen and just. But what you just talked about about a Brown. I've become a little bit more fond of Young Bull man as of late, hearing some of the things he's talked about. I'm not going to get into detail on it, but his perspective on life and other topics that I've seen him speak on. And he's becoming a huge. A huge Favorite of mine, not even the receiver, A.J. brown. I'm talking about the human being, the person, the husband, the person he is and values and morals in which he stands. And said, I never knew that about him. I never knew it about him because I've never had the opportunity to. To interact with him outside of the game of football. But.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Chad Johnson]

But hearing him and where he stands, you know, and in his beliefs, though, very, very, very admirable from the outside looking in on, on. On what I thought a individual was like, no. Based on what I see on the field, but in who he truly is off the field. Dude, I love. Dude, man, I love. He real sharp. He got a sharp mind, man. So it was a joy to see him in a different light than what I expected based on the football player that I got to watch on Sundays.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, I remember we won the super bowl and obviously, man, ain't nothing like it. Like I said, we broke the NFC. The NFC had run 14 straight Super Bowls, Ocho. And to win it and to hold that trophy, to actually, actually be on the field, to have the confetti come down in your colors and you got the trophy. Now think about how many times I've seen the super bowl winning team go on the field and get that trophy and everybody's looking at it. Now I finally have it. Yeah, a small kid from Glenville, Georgia went to Savannah State and seventh round draft pick and I'm the starting tight end. They pronounced my name and everything. And everybody in Glenville said, you know what? I know somebody that actually played in the Super Bowl. As a matter of fact, I probably went to school with brother or his sister. That was me. And winning that trophy there was. That was, that was like. That was. That was at that point in time, probably the crowning achievement of my career. And I remember going into the off season and I like. Because back then, you know, it was 16 games oo and then, you know, we had to still had the two weeks and so we started playing, I mean we first week. So I think. I think the super bowl was damn near like the end of January. It wasn't. It didn't bleed into February. And I just remember like the off season, Ocho, I was like, man, so I took about an extra week off and got back into it. And I remember when we came back to OTAs and Mike got up in there, he's like, hey, congratulations guys. I'm proud of this. I'm proud of you guys. He said, if you want to be special, you got to do it. Again, yeah.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

There are a lot of teams that's won one in a row. He said if you want to go, you want to be special, you want to be remembered, we got to go back to back. And that was a mindset that we adopted. And I remember once to see we came out of, I mean we had, we had a great, you know, as a matter of fact, we had a great training camp. Everything was great. We having fun. And Mike would put one like most teams have their schedule up there, all 16 games, right? We put one game at a time. He said, this is a 16 round fight. We going one round at a time, right? Boom. Knock the Patriots out. And so we just going down, just checking up. Just checking them off. Checking them off, Ocho. Checking them off. 13 weeks. Because think about it, we won our last last game. No. Yeah. Won our last two games 97. Yeah. Won our last two games in 97. No last game in 97. Beat the Chargers, then we go through the playoffs, win the super bowl, then we come out. So we win like 18 straight games. Ojo feeling good.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Get to the playoffs. But I agree with everything he said. There's something about that moment. And when I get on the phone and I talk to Burns or me and Ross Smith calling foots fee, some of them guys and man, we just, hey, man, you rebel such and such. We there at the back of the plane Joaning. I mean, very few, very few times. Ocho, do we ever talk about the super bowl game itself. We're talking about going to the game, we're talking about on the plane ride back, on the bus ride back. Very seldom do we mention anything about the super bowl itself. We always talk about the plane ride. Or man, you remember, we got eight, man, we got snowed in and we had to go get people on snowmobiles to go to Buffalo. We get to Buffalo like 1:32 o' clock in the morning and we got a 1 o' clock game. Yeah, man, that was so much fun. Ain't nothing like that. Ain't nothing like that. And then when you're in it, Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't get to enjoy it. You don't. You don't, because you're in it. And you feel if you enjoy it, it's going to take you out of that mindset of what you need to do to make sure you try to stay in it. So. Man, ain't nothing like that. Hey, A.J. brown said he's also upset about the current haircut prices in the country. Haircut price are crazy nowadays. I used to pay $20 for a cut. Ain't no more $20, but we. I used to pay 5, 250. Hey, but you got to realize, don't you. I'll get haircuts in the 70s. Yeah, my brother. My grandfather give me, my brother, you know, $4, 2 to $5.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, both of us get a haircut in college. That's all you give you a teammate, which I would pay a guy $5 to cut my hair. What?

[Chad Johnson]

Time's a different boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, Ocho, look, I ain't got no problem, you know. Hey, good 64 cut. I'm gonna go ahead and tip you falling, Ocho. Dude, Debbie want 200. 300 to cut me.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, man, listen, it's time. Listen, charge 15 for a part, boy, you know? Hey, hold on. You talking about a haircut? 200. Bought two steaks at the grocery. At the grocery store. What? $42?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Well, you ain't. Well, guess what? How much are they in the restaurant? $70. So at least you got two.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, they got to make their money up some kind of way. They ain't got no market.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look, a lot of times. A lot of times what happens, Ocho, is that if an app. If. If barbers cut athletes, celebs and entertainers, they want to live that lifestyle, bro, you need to. You need to play. Pick up a. Play a sport. You need to act, play an instrument, or dance, sing or something because you not fitting to come up on me. Hey, I grow dreads first. I grow dread. I get twists. I'm not paying no $300 for no cut. I don't care if I got 20, 30, 40, 50, 60 million. I'm not paying no $300 for no cut. Don't.

[Chad Johnson]

Yo, I'm not. That's a lot.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But just a cut.

[Chad Johnson]

Listen, that's a lot. Now. Now, what we can say is. Is about our. But. But our about our friend not too long ago who's down here in Miami. Now, that kind of service. Yes, I forgot. Forgot. I forgot his Instagram name. But for that kind of service, yeah, $300. Now we talking. We can.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We can talk. Okay. You won't cut it, you won't dye it, you won't give me a facial.

[Chad Johnson]

Facial and all. Gotcha. Now that I understand. Now, I'm not going to get that every time, right? Not every time, but every so often, you know, you got your nice little date night with your girl. You want?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You want? Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Boom. There you go. Now you good, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Please, man. You think I'm let you. You gonna be on my head for cutting my hair for 30 minutes, and I'm gonna go give you 300. And then you wouldn't expect to tip.

[Chad Johnson]

Tip?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who tip what you gotta tip? Don't eat egg salad to ride the bus. That would be a terrible experience for everybody. I ain't got nothing for yo Joe, dude. But now I'm trying to think, aj. Yeah, well, I'm saying I think. I'm trying to think. When I played, how much was I playing for a cut? Yeah, I was playing about 20, $30. Yeah, yeah, I played. The dude cut my hair. Now, you do a good job. I give him. I give him a good. Hey, I think he like 45, 50 of here. I give him a hunt.

[Chad Johnson]

Damn. Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What?

[Chad Johnson]

Big money. Okay. Yeah, big money.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But he did they do a good job of getting me in. Cause like. Like when I was in Atlanta, Ocho, like all my. I like. I don't like to know. I don't do no walk ins. I like a standing appointment. So for my nails, my facials, my haircut, my massage, I would pay at. For the. I would pay for the whole year.

[Chad Johnson]

God damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Pay the whole year. Cause guess what, Ocho? When I say. When I say, hey, I want my time, they're more apt to move somebody to get me in as opposed to them moving me to get somebody else in.

[Chad Johnson]

You didn't already paid everything?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I done paid. I done got back.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, were you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Yeah, I always did that.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, you. You complaining about me owing you 5,200 and you paying for nails, manicures and haircuts. A whole.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They provide the service. What you doing? You taking money out my pocket. I can't pay him. I told him. I said. I told the Barb I would pay you money, but ocho owed me 5,900 and I can't pay you.

[Chad Johnson]

I ain't never heard Nobody do that. Well you, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, this out. I remember I paid, I had ran out because I did like. So I got this package and that lady runs a special on, on facials. You know if you go ahead and Pay, you buy 12. Can I get them once a. She'll give you 15. I bought the package, got the job at Fox. I, I, I still got some of the books. I have some of the books, right. I ain't got them no more, but yeah, but I like that I, I like a standing appointment. They know I'm coming at this time. Hey, when I go, when I get my massage Monday. I used to get massages Monday. No, Wednesday and Friday. That's my massage. Haircut was Thursday. Nails Thursday. I like that. I like knowing. I like structure. I like a schedule. I like being on a schedule. I think everybody knows that. And I will be a, I will be a. And I'm going to be, I'm going to be ticked if I come in there and I got to wait longer than five minutes because you know I'm coming. I've already paid you for this time, so don't. Hey, don't be trying to get a. I can squeeze you in. Come at 2:45 when you know my appointment's at 3. Uh oh. Oh. Uh oh. The NFL has a unanimously approved for its players to participate in flag football when the sports makes it debut in 2028 Summer Olympics. But not everyone is looking forward to NFL competing on the national stage. Quarterback Daryl Hooch Doucet has led the US national team for four global championships and has emerged as one of the biggest ambassadors for the sport. Hoosh hopes he and fellow flag footballers get a fair chance to make the 10 man roster. The flag guys deserve their opportunity. That's all we want. We felt like we worked hard to get the sport where it's at and then when the NFL guys spoke about it, it was like we're getting kicked to the side. I felt like I was a guy who could speak out for my peers, for my brothers that's been working hard to get to this level for us not to be forgotten. I agree 1000% with him.

[Chad Johnson]

Remember I told you?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson]

It first came out, I mean a few shows ago and I talked about NFL players getting the opportunity to play. Owners agreeing. It's okay. I still think and I, I, I can stand on this when it comes to Doucet and those young fellas that play flag football for a living, that know all the nuances and the mannerisms on how that game operates. They could be the NFL squad. I'm talking about our best players. Our best 10 against their best 10 that do it for a living. Against those that play in the NFL for a living. The flag all team will win because they know the game. They know how to manipulate. They know how to take advantage of the game based on the rules that the NFL players don' you battle, it's different. And I said I'm hoping, even though it's a 10 man roster, I would hope it's more than that. So those that actually play the game of flag football get the opportunity to shine as well.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So how. So what? So what are they going to do, Ojo? So are they going to. Are these guys going to do anything? Are they going to start like playing in the off season playing flag football or they just going to show up in 2018? Oh yeah, we got NFL players and we just going to put them on the team.

[Chad Johnson]

My point exactly. And now just doing that is also a disservice to the game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Just because you got a big name that doesn't. That doesn't mean we.

[Chad Johnson]

And it doesn't mean it looks even.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Worse if you send all those big names over there. They get their ass whipped.

[Chad Johnson]

Which is. Which is what?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Which is going to more than likely happen.

[Chad Johnson]

Exactly. Which is why you need those that actually do it. Understand the game and know the game. And then you know how you can sprinkle in your pieces of NFL players that can go out there and athletically be a little bit better than everybody else. But again, those that know the rules will always have an advantage.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And he's led him to the quarterback, has led him to four global championships. Four. I mean, well, damn nice.

[Chad Johnson]

He nice too now. He nice. I played against him years ago. I forgot who we were. I played against him years ago. Oh, he nice. And the whole squad he was playing with, he from New Orleans too, if I'm not mistaken. He nice.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I hope you know, I can see if it was tackle football, Lou, that's different. And the NFL want to put some of their guys kind of like basketball. See, basketball is basketball. So when David Stern says, you know what we're going to get the. We going to make it this a global game and we're going to take out 10, 12 best players and we're going to let you showcase them. I get that. But there's no correlation between NFL and flag football. NFL doesn't have a flag football team. So to try to take the game globally, I thought that's what you was doing. These international games for going to Brazil, going to London, going to all these different places. I thought that's what that was about. Let these people have. Let these people have this. Damn.

[Chad Johnson]

The funny thing about when I think people, especially in the chat, are people that's obviously watching are probably going to see these clips. When you think about flag football, they probably think it's, oh, you just pull the flags. Oh, our players are so fast. Look, when it comes to the game of competitive. It's the key word, competitive flag football with elites that do it for a living, they will annihilate NFL players.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson]

You can manipulate the game in so many ways. Offensively, it's like, oh, it's crazy. The rules that go into it and at what point will they just like flag.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, you wouldn't ask anybody from flag football, like, oh, yeah, I hope they give us a chance to make the team. No, you ain't been playing NFL football. You ain't been playing tackle football. Just like these guys that's playing tackle football hadn't played flag football since they left elementary school. Bro, you getting enough shine. You in the NFL. Let these people have this moment.

[Chad Johnson]

I hope they get an opportunity, though. I hope they do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho. Let them people have the moment, Ocho. Guys, you making 30. 20, 30 billion dollars. These guys. I mean, they did a little bit of money that they're making. Let them have a moment. Damn.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, I think I'm. I guarantee you they. They'll be a part. They'll be a part of it. They'll be a part of it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, it's okay for them not to be. It's okay if they're not. It really. It really is.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, I mean, let me ask you a question. You were going to watch it, whether NFL participated or not. Are you more apt to watch it now? No, I'm watching it anyway. Thank you. Yeah, that's my point.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. I don't. I don't think people, you know, and I don't like the fact that they just think, oh, it's flag football. It ain't just flag football. It's competitive flag football. There's a huge difference. It's a huge difference.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Someone said the solution is very simple. The national flag football team versus the NFL flag football team in the Coliseum on July 4, 2027. Winner goes to the Olympics.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, hell. Well, the flag football team will be going to the Olympics.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. You can't just throw by that thing and go with.

[Chad Johnson]

And I'm telling you, I'm telling you with the best NFL players. Pat Mahomes, the quarterback chasing Justin, that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Receiver, Lamar Jackson at quarterback. Probably Lamar.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Okay. Lamar at quarterback. They're going to lose to Doucet in whatever team he comes up with, whatever 10 they have, I guarantee you. And I put one of my savings accounts on it. It's hypothetically speaking, I'm telling you. Yeah. And people look at people look at Lamar Jackson, what he's able to do on the NFL field on a Sunday. Or what Jamar Chase, Triple Crown winner, does on a Sunday. Or Justin Jefferson, who can't be covered. Man, it's different.

[Shannon Sharpe]

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