Nightcap Hour 1: Unc & Ocho React to Bengals Season OVER?! + Cowboys OT win

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Nightcap Hour 1 – “Unc & Ocho React to Bengals Season OVER?! + Cowboys OT Win”

Date: September 15, 2025
Host: Shannon Sharpe
Guest/Co-host: Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson

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Episode Overview

This episode of Nightcap sees NFL legend Shannon Sharpe and former Bengals star Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson break down the biggest moments from Week 2 in the NFL. The main focuses are the Bengals’ win — and the shocking potential loss of Joe Burrow to injury — plus the dramatic Cowboys-Giants overtime finish. The duo dissects game-changing plays, shares strong opinions on current and former players, voices concerns about QB injuries, and offers unique insider insights with their trademark blend of humor and hard-hitting honesty.

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Falcons Rebound, Vikings Stumble: Defense Wins the Night

[03:20–12:48]

Key Points:

• The Atlanta Falcons even their record at 1–1 after beating the Vikings 22–6.
• Falcons defense is the story: 6 sacks, 2 interceptions, 1 forced fumble, and relentless pressure on QB JJ McCarthy (Vikings).
• Bijan Robinson shines with 22 carries for 143 yards, Tyler Allgeier adds 76 yards on 16 carries.

Ocho's Take:
“I really, really enjoyed Penix and the chemistry him and Kyle Pitts have gotten going. It was a mismatch.” [07:23]
Emphasizes Pitts’ usage at multiple positions and how Falcons’ defensive coordinator creatively attacked Minnesota’s inexperienced QB.

Unc’s Analysis:
“Atlanta's defense was outstanding…They made a concerted effort. They drafted early, they got Walker, they traded back in the first round, got Pierce, brought in Leonard Floyd…They attacked the quarterback. In order for you to win, your defense has to pressure the quarterback.” [08:09]

Quote:
“Ocho, ain’t nobody feeling sorry for Kirk Cousins. He’s standing on the sideline like ‘Coach, put me in.’ No, bro, that’s over. That ship sailed. Sit there, draw your 30 million dollars and be quiet.” – Shannon Sharpe [10:21]

Discussion:
The guys joke about Kirk Cousins’ massive career earnings, and Sharpe spotlights pass rush finally arriving in Atlanta after years of futility.

Is Bijan Tier 1?
Ocho probes whether Bijan Robinson belongs among Henry, McCaffrey, Barkley:

Sharpe: “I think Bijan is on the cusp. He would be my next back if you’re looking at Taylor, King Henry, Saquon, and McCaffrey…let me see another year.” [13:15]

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Super Bowl Rematch: Eagles Outlast Chiefs; Offensive Woes for KC

[17:18–33:06]

Eagles 22, Chiefs 17 – Broadcast-Mic’d Trash Talk:

• Chris Jones (Chiefs): “You don’t even have 100 yards.”
• Jalen Hurts (Eagles): “We won the f****** game. Shut your a** up.” [17:18]

Ocho’s Take:
“It was a sloppy game. I expected fireworks. …One thing I don’t like is when a top receiver like AJ Brown isn’t involved. Down the road, the front office is going to throw that at you in contract talks.” [18:17]
He worries about AJ Brown’s usage affecting future negotiations.

Unc’s Analyst Mode:
“Chiefs just have guys. I don’t care how great Mahomes is, he’s not overcoming that. Offensively, they got guys. ... There’s nothing special about anyone [on offense] right now other than Patrick Mahomes.” [20:13–20:39]

Chiefs’ Playmaker Void:
Discussion of missed passes, ineffective run, and how “the Chiefs will always have a chance with Mahomes, but these are just guys.”
Ocho underscores that this is nothing new: “They have problems every year…And for some goddamn reason, they end up back in goddamn San Francisco come week one in February.” [33:06]

Unique Analogy:
Unc: “At some point, if you want better dishes, you gotta give me better ingredients. Right now, this is the ingredients that I have, can only do so much with it.” [30:39]

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Cowboys Edge Giants in OT – Kicker Steals the Show

[33:23–41:01]

Crazy Finish:

• Brandon Aubrey hits 64-yarder to force OT, then a 46-yarder to win: 40–37 Cowboys over Giants.
• Star WRs: CeeDee Lamb (9/112), Malik Nabers (9/167/2 TD), George Pickens (5/68/TD).

Unc/Cowboys Praise:
“This is the type of game the Cowboys would normally lose. …Dak did a heck of a job of getting out of harm’s way, too.” – Shannon Sharpe [38:56]
“Aubrey just…he kicks so effortless, and the ball just jumps off his foot. Same motion, same rhythm, whether he’s kicking a PAT or 60-plus yards.” – Shannon Sharpe [39:23]

Ocho’s Kicker Insight:
“With a soccer background…to kick far and be accurate from that far out, that’s the problem. …He’s really good at that.” [37:46]

Giants’ Optimism:
“As a Giants fan, you got to be optimistic. …With Russ at the helm, it didn’t look as bad as it did previous week. And Malik Nabers doing what he got to do.” – Ocho [35:04]

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Penalties, Player-Coach Tensions: Giants’ Discipline Issues

[40:05–47:28]

• Giants’ LT James Hudson benched for repeated penalties and animated sideline argument with coach Brian Daboll.
• Multiple unnecessary roughness and false start penalties kill drives.
• Ocho and Shannon stress importance of accountability and the challenges of managing modern players:
  • “You either coach it or you condone it.” – Shannon Sharpe [41:58]
  • “Sometimes you’re so close to a situation you don’t see it…but I hope he got an opportunity to sit back and look at his actions.” [42:59]

Sharpe raises concern about increasing sideline blowups with coaches, and both highlight role of locker room leaders.

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Browns Spiral, Ravens Dominate: The QB Is Everything

[55:17–62:49]

Ravens Steamroll Browns:

• Baltimore 41, Cleveland 17. Ravens’ defense bounces back after a “team dinner” and embarrassment the prior week.
• Miles Garrett: “This ish is embarrassing. …Eventually the dam broke and we just [gave up] whatever they wanted.” [55:17]

QB Crisis in Cleveland:
Miles Garrett gets paid, but Browns stuck in limbo:
“Hey, Miles, enjoy that $160 million because this is what it’s going to be like in your future until y’all get a quarterback.” – Shannon Sharpe [55:17]

Ocho’s Perspective:
“You need 10 Miles Garrets…until you figure out your quarterback position, you’re not going to have any type of success.” [62:07]

Quote:
“The one thing I know about playing in Cleveland—no matter how bad they suck—those fans show up…they love the Browns. But, ain’t got no quarterback.” – Shannon Sharpe [60:09]

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Shocking Bengals Injury: Is the Season Over?

[65:29–75:56]

Burrow Injury Drama:

• Bengals beat Jaguars 31–27, but Joe Burrow leaves with a toe injury that could require season-ending surgery.
• National media reporting “worst case scenarios,” but Ocho pushes back:
  • “Listen…they talk about a grade 3 [turf toe], might be out three months. Listen, it could be grade 2, that’s only three-four weeks. Could be grade 1, that’s day-to-day… I don’t like when they make these reports, they say the worst-case scenario.” [66:12]

Burrow’s Toughness:
Shannon: “My brother had that injury…he shot that toe up every week, ended up having surgery after the season, about three-four months.” [68:47]

Can the Bengals Survive?
Ocho: “I have no problem with Browning coming in as my starter. …With Chase, with T, with all those weapons, sometimes it doesn’t matter who the QB is.” [72:29, 74:47]
He acts out how Browning “just checks it and lets Chase or Higgins make a play.”

Realistic Outlook:
Shannon: “Every other year, he’s gonna be injured. Ain’t nothing out there, you gotta know when the journey’s over.” [70:17]

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Wide Receiver Depth: Bengals’ Dynamic Duo (Debate!)

[81:34–86:19]

• Ocho insists: “There are very few teams in the NFL that have two number one receivers. The Bengals are one of them. The Eagles might be another team.” [86:09]
• Shannon counters: “I think T. Higgins is phenomenal, but he not the A side.” [86:19]
• The debate spins through similar combos (Waddle/Hill, Nacua/Kupp, Pickens/Lamb), but Ocho pushes the Bengals as league best.

Notable Banter:
Ocho: “Receiver 1A and receiver 1B, period. …We might drop 35 on Minnesota next week!” [83:59, 85:54]

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Additional Memorable Moments and Quotes

• On Player Frustration, Drops:
  “You complain for the ball, and the ball beats you up. …Like you ain’t never caught the ball a day in your life, boy.” – Shannon Sharpe [78:07]

• On Leadership:
  “I never wanted players to think that was okay. There’s a time and a place for everything.” – Shannon Sharpe, regarding sideline behavior [47:29]

• On Old School vs. Today:
  “I’m old school...If your child acts up and you give them ice cream or cookie, what will they continue to do? …I’ll never reinforce negative behavior.” [47:07]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Time | Segment | |------------|--------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:20 | Falcons' upset over Vikings, defense praise | | 07:23 | Ocho highlights Falcons’ offensive mismatches | | 13:15 | Bijan Robinson: Tier 1 running back debate | | 17:18 | Eagles-Chiefs recap, Hurts/Jones trash talk | | 20:13 | Chiefs “just have guys” (receivers/running backs) | | 33:23 | Cowboys-Giants OT thriller, Aubrey’s heroics | | 38:56 | Aubrey’s effortless kicking, soccer backgrounds | | 41:01 | Giants' penalty issues and player-coach sideline drama | | 55:17 | Ravens rout Browns, Cleveland QB woes | | 65:29 | Bengals-Jaguars, Burrow’s turf toe, season outlook | | 74:47 | Ocho “Browning can hold it down” demonstration | | 78:07 | On dropped passes after demanding the ball | | 81:34 | Bengals WR room debate: “1A or 1B?” |

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Final Thoughts

The episode combines top-tier football insight, humor, personal anecdotes, and unfiltered opinions. There are honest conversations about player performance, resilience, and modern athlete dynamics. Ocho and Unc’s camaraderie and inside-the-locker-room knowledge make this a must-listen for anyone following NFL storylines—especially Bengals, Cowboys, or Chiefs fans.

Notable Closing Line:
“There are very few teams in the NFL that have two number one receivers. The Bengals are one of them. The Eagles might be another team.” – Chad Johnson [86:09]

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[Chad Johnson]

Listen, what I like from the Falcons. I'm not even gonna talk about the running game and what they did offensively the beginning of the game. I really, really enjoyed Pinnocks and the chemistry him And Kyle Pitts have gotten going. It was a mismatch. They put Kyle Pitts in different position in different places where the mismatches were, had him out wide, a wide receiver, had him in the slot, had him at the tight end position. But defensively is where they made their hay. Obviously they did what they did on offense with the running game, but obviously it was, it was somewhat, I don't want to say of a snooze fest, unk, but they got in the red zone, but they couldn't score most of the time. They, they couldn't score most of the time. Field goals will get you beat, but the fact that they played defense so well and the goddamn Viking couldn't get anything going offensively, let alone get in the red zone. Two score points. They only kick field goals as well. That's why they won. That's why they won the game tonight.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, six points. But Atlanta's defense was outstanding. We haven't seen. Look, Atlanta's been really, really bad oo over the last five or six years at rushing the quarterback. And they made a concerted effort. They drafted early, they got Walker, they traded back in the first round, got Pierce. They got brought in Leonard Floyd, who was with Raheem when he was at the Rams. So therefore he's very familiar with Leonard Floyd. And they attacked the quarterback. In order for you to win, your defense has to pressure the quarterback. You cannot leave him back there and let him have all day to pat the football. So the Falcons did an outstanding job and this is what they needed. They've needed pass rush for a very, very last long time. I think they say they finished last the last five years they've been last, has the least amount of sacks and nobody's within 30 of them. So.

[Chad Johnson]

And I'm gonna say the, the, the one thing I like about the defensive coordinator for the Atlanta Falcon, last name.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Is over Jeff Uber.

[Chad Johnson]

They don't have a, they don't have a Miles Garrett. But collectively, but collectively as a group, running stunts stamp different things without, with the defensive line, with the linebackers and adding pressure against you. You're going against a rookie quarterback even though he's in his second year, this is his first year start. You're throwing stuff at him that's confusing them because that's the one thing you want to do to a young quarterback. You want to put pressure on him, confuse them, force him to process information a little faster than you can. And you get what you saw tonight, interceptions, fumbles, you get stuff like that. So they Play, they, they, they play really well. And I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm excited for the falcons, obviously. Penning Jr. Now being the starter. And the future is bright for Atlanta right now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know why they keep the camera on Kirk Cousins. Kirk Cousins. I don't know why they keep, keep showing on Kirk Cousins. He ain't going in. And nothing was wrong with Penck. I don't know why y'. All. Ain't nobody feeling no sympathy for hell as he done backed up the brink. Truck.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, speaking of brings Truck, do you know that. Do you know how much Kirk Cousins.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Has made in his career?

[Chad Johnson]

You know how much I, I don't think people understand. Hey, he, listen, he's, he's a child of God. And God has blessed him because it's up runneth over.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. So ain't nobody feeling. So ain't nobody feeling sorry for Cut Cousins, he's standing on the sideline like, man, coach put me in. No, bro, that's over. That ship sale. Sit there, draw your $30 million and be quiet. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, they gave him 100 million guaranteed 50 million dollar signing bonus. He got it, so he got more money coming. But I, I really, I really, really love what I saw from the Falcons, their pass rush if they can keep this going. Bijan Robinson out here running the football game.

[Chad Johnson]

Shador calling me should do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who?

[Chad Johnson]

It's only one. Shador. Hold on. What's up?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What?

[Chad Johnson]

None sitting here on the show. What's good? Yeah, we live right now. What's good? Talk to me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ask me. You want to come on.

[Chad Johnson]

Huh? I mean, yeah, I mean, you. Yeah, you only. I mean, they could hear me talking and I said, I said it was you, but they can't hear. They can't hear what you're saying. Why you need me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Atlanta's defense and six sacks comparison, one and a half Doris, one and a half Pierce Jr. Half a sack. Leonard Ford sack.

[Chad Johnson]

I, I see. I, I ain't see it. I ain't see it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So Atlanta got after JJ McCarthy comes back down to reality after he played so well the opening week. I think he, if I'm not mistaken, I think he was offensive player of the week in the NFC. Had an outstanding game, spotted the Chicago Bears 176 and then they scored 21 unanswered points to take a 2717 lead. And the next thing you know, they end up holding on and winning. JJ Played really well, but that's just the ups and downs that you're going to have as a rookie quarterback. You shouldn't expect him to be even keel especially really. He's not a rookie. But as Ocho said, it's his first year starting. He's a second year player, but this is his first year starting. But Falcons look good. Vikings back to the drawing board. Falcons run their record to 1 and 1 with a 226 win over the Minnesota Vikings thanks to great running by oh, Bijan Robinson, 22 carries, a buck 43. Algier had 16 rushes, 76 yards, 39 rushes, 218 yards. Pennies junior was 13 to 21, 135 three sacks. But they win this ball game 22 to 6.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, I have a question for you. I'm curious to how you feel about it. Chad. You can, you can, you can chime into it and let me know when we talk about the tier, the tier one running backs in the NFL. Your King Henry's, your Christian McCaffreys. I think Jonathan Taylor would be in that conversation as well. Is it time we put. Yeah, Saquon, Excuse me, I'm sorry. Is it time we put Bijan Robinson in that conversation as a tier one running back or is he not there yet? Is he, is he fringe of being tier one? I'm just curious, what do you think?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he gotta, you got. He. I mean I need to see another year. I need to see some awards. I need, I think, I think I need to see an all pro or something. Yeah, right. Because all those guys, I mean you look at Ken Henry has basically been doing this since he got into the league. Saquan was offensive rookie of the year. He had another thousand, had an outstanding season. He got injured. Now he went, went to the, the Eagles Offensive player of the year. So Christian McCaffrey's been offensive player of the year. He's been a multiple time Pro Bowler. Roy. 4,000. Received 4,000. I think I, I think Bijan is, is on the cusp. He would be, he would be my next back to. If you're looking at Jonathan Taylor, you look at it as you mentioned, King Henry, Saquon and.

[Chad Johnson]

And we can't forget Gibbs and Montgomery.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They're coming, they're coming, they're coming.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It all depends because Gibbs and Montgomery don't get the workload that those other guys get. They split a lot of the carrots. Right. King Henry gets the lion's share of the carry. Saquon gets the lion's share of the carries. Christian McCaffrey gets the Lion's share of the carries. If you notice Robinson had 22 rushes but Algeria had 16. So they do a great job. And you know you can preserve your backs and you can. They'll be fresher longer with where they don't take the lion share of the carries. But yeah, they're right there. I mean, look, you can put Josh Jacobs in that group there. There are some guys that, that are, that are right there. Ojo that are right there. Aaron.

[Chad Johnson]

Aaron Jones. Yeah.

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[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, it was, it was a sloppy game. Yeah, it was. It was. It was a sloppy game. I expected fireworks. You know, obviously you think about, you think about the Eagles as great as they thought their defensive line is. The tush push dominated the game today. Saquon was decent. I, I don't like the fact that again, AJ Brown not getting involved into the game the way he should be being a, a top. When we talk about the top receiver in the NFL. But again, it's the offense that they do run. They are winning. And a lot of people say, listen, numbers don't matter, stats don't matter as long as we are winning games. But one of the things that I don't like is what teams do when it comes to business. When you command a certain salary, the first thing they're going to do is they're going to tell you, well, what we're paying you doesn't match up to the production that you're giving us. You know, we gonna need you to take a pay cut. We don't need you to take a pay cut. That, that's why I always complain about them not getting him the ball as much. But again, they are winning that, that at the end of the Day. That's what it's all about. I just understand the business side of things down the road, what they're going to try to pull outside of that on the cheese side of the ball.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, the receivers, they got guys, Ocho. And no matter what you say, they have guys. Juju is a guy. Hollywood Brown has become a guy. They're guys. Kelsey has been lazy. He's getting lazy with his head and he's getting lazy with his eyes. He knows in that area of the field he has to snap his head. He knows. I don't know what he's looking. I don't know why he's so lazy with his head. There's nobody inside. And, and, and, and what's 32's name? Blankenship. He got you, man. Why are you so lazy? Your head, nice. You got to snap it around. It's like he, he got it.

[Chad Johnson]

And if.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, bro, you got to snap that. You know that. And you took points off the board. So in other words, you. You don't get points. And they go down and they get points.

[Chad Johnson]

Points. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They got oo. They got guys. I don't care how great Mahomes is, he's not overcoming that. They got guys. That running back, we. And I keep telling you, Pacheco is a guy. There. There are 30 guys. You can find 50 guys in the NFL that can do exactly what Isael Pacheco can do. Kareem Hunt is past his prime. He's a guy. They got guys. They got guys. There's nothing special about anybody on that team right now offensively other than Patrick Mahomes. Offensively, they got guys.

[Chad Johnson]

But, but you heard what you just said. There's nobody on that team that is special outside of the quarterback. And that's the most important position.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Chris.

[Chad Johnson]

Chris Jones.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I mean, look, that offensive line did an outstanding job today. They ran the ball 34 rushes, 122 yards. Look, oo, I ain't got no problem with the tush push, but if you gonna let him jump the count, can't nobody stop it. You remember last year, they tried to. A couple of years ago, they tried to put emphasis on those tackles with jumping the snap count and they started calling it. If you're gonna let the offensive lineman jump the count, then start the guards and tackle start moving before the center stops the ball. But no, nobody's gonna be able to stop it. And you can see it. They jumping the count. Yeah, but this, I mean, the chief look bad. There's no way around It. The Chiefs just look bad on Joe. They do. I mean, Patrick Mahomes, the leading rusher, I mean he take it and he's gonna have to be careful lowering that, lowering that shoulder. I know his is non throwing shoulders, but you're gonna be. You gotta be careful with that and that. But you throw caution to the wind, Ocho, because you get out there and you're a competitor and you, you, you. You know, you've lost your first. You lost the first game, you lost the second game. And you just want to have some resemblance of something and offensively and try to stay on the field. But he's gonna need to be careful. But offensively they got guys. I mean Mahomes. And Mahomes had Thorton wide open and he overshoots him by 15 yards. Now they come back and catch him again and he makes an outstanding play. But.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, they. They put. They put that safety on a. They put that safety in the bind. Had had him make a choice. Either. Either you stay with the safety. And Mahomes hit that dig safety drove.

[Shannon Sharpe]

On the dig wide open.

[Chad Johnson]

It was too late. It was too late for Mitchell to get over from the deep third. But listen, you got. You have to think about when Tyreek left the Chiefs. They just had guys. Mahomes was still able to get it done. For me, if long as I have 15, I'm not a Chiefs fan, but as long as I have 15, I have a chance. But as long as I have 87.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who knows you have to make. He's not that same guy that he was when. When Tyreek first left. You know that you watch the game. You watching it. I mean, I'm not, I'm not breaking news. And everybody knows I love now, but he's not the same. It's not even close. And you lose Rashid Rice, who was had started at. If you go back and look that year that he got there, he had started to take over. Like, okay, they got something worthy has started. Look. And now he's hurt. So now you got. Man, look, Baltimore was willing to trade a Hollywood Brown. The Cardinal was willing to let him go. Come on now, Ocho. Look at juju.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Pittsburgh says, okay, you can go. He goes to New England. They like, nah, you good. Go ahead. I think he went to New England first. Then he comes to Kansas City, he goes somewhere else and he's back in Kansas City. Yeah, they're better off. I mean, if you take those scramble yards out, you got Kareem Hunt got eight carries for 31 yards along of 11, Isaiah Pacheco. 10 carries, 22 yards. 10 carries, 22 yards. Running hard, going nowhere. It's kind. It's kind of like, man, he basically running in place. Man, I've been. I've been run. But you running in place. You ain't went nowhere.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, they gonna be all right. I mean, listen, that's the. That's the one team I. Oh, I will always have a chance no matter what I have surrounded me. Because what I lack offensively, the quarterback I have can overcome it. This was a bad game today, but as. As the season goes on, they make adjustments. It's the same conversation we had with the Chiefs at the beginning of the season last year. All the goddamn drops. We ain't got nobody to throw to. Kelsey can't get open. He's not the same. Kelsey was, you know, back. Back a few years ago, but, but, but again, for some reason, you know where they ended up last year and it got. Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me ask you a question. Do you think Buffalo is better this last year than better this year than they were last year? You like the way Josh Allen is playing right now? Yes or no?

[Chad Johnson]

Yes, absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What about Baltimore? You think they're better than what they were last year? What about the charges? Are they better than what they were last year?

[Chad Johnson]

They are the most. They are the most improved. As a matter of fact, speaking of the charges, I'm still. I'm still in Vegas. I ain't even home. So I'm. I'm going to the game. I'm going to Tomorrow.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. No, I don't. I do not. I don't been.

[Chad Johnson]

I got two.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't been outside. It's time for me to come in.

[Chad Johnson]

But I got two tickets for us.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right, Take. Take your people.

[Chad Johnson]

No, it was a surprise for you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm good. I gotta. I gotta. I gotta stay here and prep.

[Chad Johnson]

But we could prep. We could prep at the same time and watch the game. We could talk about the game and take notes and what we gonna talk about when we get do nightcap?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, No, I absolutely do not want to go to the game. Well, okay, but cj. CJ said. Man told. He told Jalen hurts. You don't even have a hundred yards. Her said, we won the effing game. Now shut your.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, shut up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And that's the ultimate thing. Scoreboard.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. At the end of the day. But how long can they play like this, huh? How long can you. How long can you play throwing for less.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They did it last year. You just told you Just told me about the cat.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh yeah. I said, I said. But I'm just asking you, how long are you going to be able to do that this year? This is a new year when you, when you come against a team that's an offensive juggernaut, that can actually run the ball, that can actually throw the ball, that can actually play a little better defense than what the Chief played today.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What happens if you play that bad? I mean, what did they give up?

[Chad Johnson]

But not that bad. They gave up. They didn't play well enough.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oo think about it. They gave up. They gave up 122 yards rushing on 34 carries. They gave up 101 passing yards on 22 attempts. So they gave up. They gave up 6, 160. They gave up 216 total yards. If you give up 216 total yards, you're supposed to win. If your defense gets uphold an opposing offense to 216 yards and they have points because they scored off Kelsey Bobble the ball and they got a pick at, at the, in the end zone. Yeah, and kudos to the left tackle Simmons, the number one draft pick because he went and got it.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, you saw.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I absolutely saw it.

[Chad Johnson]

He was moving. Boy, to be that, oh, to be that big man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, but they got, they got to get better. They got Ojo, they got a bunch of fast guys, but they don't have anybody that can consistently get down the field and catch the ball. Hollywood, I mean, they got the guy. Those guys are Ocho. The thing is about Hollywood Brown is that wherever he catches it, that's where they gonna tackle him at. He breaking no tackles.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, but you, you gotta think everybody don't have a Jamar Chase. Everybody don't have a Justin Jefferson. Like, that's not. That hasn't been the makeup there of their team offensively since Tyreek left. No, it hasn't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

She writes was coming in his own. You could tell he gonna be a player.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh yeah, he was that boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We saw him get better and better and better. So those were the guys that they were counting on. Look, the Chief knew that some kind of punishment was coming to Rasheed Rice. The report said they wanted to suspend him for the whole year. He wasn't going for that. They settled on six games. So the Chiefs knew something was coming. They didn't expect Xavier. They didn't expect their own guy to run into Xavier Worthy and dislocate his shoulder. They weren't expecting that. Look, Taekwondo Thornton. Look, I, I didn't know anything about him. But he goes to the combine, he runs 4, 2, 7. You're going to get everybody's undivided attention. You run that fast at that height, you're going to get people's attention. And that's what he did.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Juju is. Is. Look, he can make tough contestants catching Ocho, but he ain't going Ocho. He ain't going nowhere in a hurry. He's never been a speed merchant. Right.

[Chad Johnson]

But you got to think about it, huh? This all comes down to the officer coordinator. It's all about understanding the players you have and putting the players that you have in positions to make plays based on their strengths.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You have a quarter are their strengths. How many shallow cross do you want me to run, Ocho?

[Chad Johnson]

I mean, hey, listen, if that's what they do, that's what that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That.

[Chad Johnson]

That. That's what you got to do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But guess what, Ocho? And because you don't have nobody, that's great. Run after the catch. So guess what? Wherever they catch the ball, that's where they tackle that. In order to run shallows and all that pig stuff, you need guys that can run off catch. You need guys that can break tackles, Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

But I know one thing. You keep moving the chains. You keep moving the chains. If you don't have someone. Oh, wait a minute. Oh, whoa, whoa. Let's think about this. Let's think about the Patriots. Think about the Patriots. They had no speed merchants, but it was shallows underneath, crosses, middle, middle. That I'm talking about. Not. Not the Moss Patriots. I'm talking about the Edelman, the Groms.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson]

You know, I mean, crossing, crossing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Edelman is better. Edelman is better than any receiver that they got right now.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I'm not gonna. I'm not comparing. I'm just saying the route. I'm about to scheme the route.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, yes. That was their thing. And then they attack you. But in order to consistently run those, you got to stay on you. You can't get behind the chains. And a lot of times the Chiefs will fall behind the chains. They'll get stuck at second and 10. They'll get second and 12. They'll get a holding call. So now all of a sudden, they don't care if you run a shallow cross. They just go tackle you and get off the field.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. And you got to have some type of running game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson]

You got to have some type of running game to keep the defense honest. Some type of running game to keep the defense honest. But the good thing for the Chiefs is They're not playing the Eagles every goddamn week. They're not playing the Eagles every goddamn week. So other games are going to look much better than what they did.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Realize, Ocho, we saw the charges do this to them. That's the thing, though. I mean, at some point in time, I can only scheme so much. There's. There. When you start giving me gizzards and livers and license, I can only make such a. I can only make a dish. I can only make so much out of it. Ocho, at some point in time, if you want better dishes, you're gonna have to give me better ingredients. And right now, these. This is the ingredients that I have, and I can only do so much with it. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And.

[Chad Johnson]

It'S so funny. We. We had these conversations about the Chiefs and their struggles at the beginning of the season. Whether it's the opposite line, whether it's receivers getting open, whether the receivers dropping the ball in. In this case. Now, some of the. Some. Some of their best players that you expect to step up to the plate with the. With the. The absence of. Of Worthy, with the absence of Rasheed Rice, and they're messing up the ones that you think you can count on. And. And, hey, they got to go back to the drawing board. Problem is, they got to go back.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The thing is, Ocho, is that when you're struggling offensively, the one thing that you can't do is what? Turn the ball over.

[Chad Johnson]

Turn the ball over. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You're about to get points. Because think about Ocho. There was a stretch there early in Mahomes career. You, like 17 points. He Getting that in the first half. You talking about for a game, easy. Oh, he gonna get bored of that. And think about it.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How late it was when they got that 17 because of the longest time they had 10. And here we are with three minutes left in the game. They got 10 points. So we're not used to seeing them struggle offensively like they're struggling. To make matters worse is that they turn the ball over and they don't need to turn it over four or five times because you're already struggling. One turnover could possibly doom you when you can only put up 17 points.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The defense, I mean, if it's held that team to, like, hold a hell, that team to 20 points after they get. Excuse me. After they gave up what they gave up in the super bowl to help them. They held him to. It was 10. 10 at the half. They gave up three in the third, and both of them scored seven in the fourth, you can't.

[Chad Johnson]

Dang.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's. It's. It's. It's. Look, they're in a very tough spot because of. Of the absence of Rashid Rice and Xavier Worthy. But ain't nobody feeling sorry for the Chiefs.

[Chad Johnson]

Nah, they don't. Don't feel sorry for them because they have problems. Every year. We talk about their. Their struggles. We talk about their issues on offense, on defense, offensive line. We talk about the receivers, the tight ends. And for some goddamn reason now, watch they end up back in goddamn San Francisco come week. Week one in February.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't feel as confident as I did that bud beating Canelo. So if you ask me to put some money down, I ain't doing that. And if they do, if they do end up there, bless them. But I ain't putting no money. That means something to me. Oh. The Cowboys beat the Giants in OT. Brandon Aubrey kicked a 64 yard field goal as time expired, and then he kicked a 46 yard field goal to win the ball game, 40 to 37.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

CD Lamb had 112 yards on nine catches. George Pickens, five catches, 68 yards and a touchdown that put Dallas up by four with 52 seconds of regulation. But Russ came back, found Malik Navy over the top.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, my goodness. I hate when this.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, that. Hey, that was. That was a great game. That Cowboy Giants game might. Might have been. Might have been the best game of the day.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What? No question about it was the best game of the day.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, that. They was nice. They were going back and forth.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah. Giants defense let him down.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. I mean, listen it. The Giants defense played well most of the day outside that. That one play. What? Stretch left and he bounced.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you got it wrapped up. And you. And you let. Yeah, you let Javante. I mean, it's third and 14, and you let him pick up. Yeah, you can't do that. You got it wrapped up. You got him stopped at the line and somehow you let him. You let him out.

[Chad Johnson]

Damn, that was a good game, though.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, it was a very good game.

[Chad Johnson]

As a. As a Giants fan, you got to be optimistic. The way they look today, especially with Russ at the helm, it didn't look as bad as they did previous week. And Malik neighbors doing what he got to do. I just. The running game. Running game was decent.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Average. Basically four yards of carry. You can live with that. The thing is, Ocho, is that the. The turnover. And I know you do.

[Chad Johnson]

You guys, he had to pre. He had the pressure. That's not fair.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho you can't throw it. You can't get thrown down the middle of the field. Oh, no.

[Chad Johnson]

He was trying to throw to the corner, but he got hit, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, he had. He had an outstanding day. He was dealing 30 of 41, 453 touchdowns. That was 30, 38 of 52, 361, two touchdowns, one interception. A lot of offense, a lot of, you know, 500 yards from the Giants, almost 500 yards for the Cowboys. But it just moments it come down to making plays. I mean, Malik Neighbors, 9 4, buck 67. Two tubs. Wandell Robinson, 8 for buck 42. One tub. Darius Slayton 2 for 61. I mean, guys are playing well. CeeDee Lamb 9 for a buck 12. Jake Ferguson 9 for 78. George Pickens 5 for 68. Kavonte Turpin 4 for 47. Man, if they let another defender cross their face, I mean, offend. Oo on what route?

[Chad Johnson]

What route?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't let nobody inside of you on the goal line. That's the easiest throw. Yeah, I mean, dude, I'm like, dude, I was like. I was like, I just want to be. I just want to be a fly on the wall. Cause I would love to hear what the coordinator and the position coach are teaching these guys because it seemed like they just let guys just willy nilly just go cross their face. I'm not letting you cross my face. It's just like an offensive player, Ocho, you never let a defensive player cross your face. So as a defender, the offensive player not let try to let you cross his face. As a defender, why would you let the offensive player cross your face? I don't know. I don't know, Ocho, but give the Cowboys credit because these are games that we've seen the Cowboys fade in. You have the lead, Ocho. And then. And then guess what? And in three plays, they're back in the end zone and they got the lead. But you have to give Aubrey credit. 64 yards, Ocho. That ball look like it had been good from 74.

[Chad Johnson]

It is. He said, he said, he said. Obviously, Aubrey having a soccer background as well, it's one thing to be able to kick far, but to be able to kick far and be accurate is issue. That's the problem because the further out you go with the goal post being as narrow as they are is being accurate from that far out and being able to control the trajectory of the ball and where you want it to go. And he's really, really good at that. And I know because he Has a soccer background. He's that much more confident in doing so well.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm pretty sure all these guys got soccer backgrounds. They're no more straight on kickers anymore. They used to be, you know, the soccer, you know, the straight on the square, the. The square toe guys. I mean, I don't think I've seen. Who's that? The last guy was probably Mark Mosley, but he was. He was gone before. I don't think I was in the league when I got there. He.

[Chad Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think he retired. I don't think I played against Mosley. I don't. But he's the only kicker to win the MVP. 1982, if I'm not mistaken. Kicker won the MVP of the NFL. Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Dang.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, but I like this. Like I said, Ocho, this is the type of game that the Cowboys would normally lose, have a lead, and then give it up late in the ball game. And then Dak would either fumble it or strip sack or something like that. Dak did a heck of a job of getting out of harm's way too, because they had him sacked one time and he got up out of that. But you see, Jerry said they after the game that they signed your Davion Clowney after you see Russell Wilson go for 450 yards on you. Yeah, you better go get somebody.

[Chad Johnson]

You need some pressure.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. And Aubrey, like I said, and the thing is, Ocho, he just. He kicks so effortless and the ball just jumps off his foot. I mean, he don't try to kill it. I mean, it's the same swing whether he's kicking a pat or he's kicking the ball 60 plus yards. It's the same. It's the same. It's the same motion. It's the same rhythm. And it was. It was unbelievable. The Cowboys who The Cowboys play next one and one. The Giants fall to zero and two. The Giants welcome in Kansas City on Sunday night, don't they?

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, that's gonna be a good one. Wait, what are they playing at Kansas City or in New York? Oh, that's gonna be a good one. That's gonna be a good one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Kansas City Cowboys play the Bears in Chicago or Dallas. Ain't much going on there. Ocho first drive. Giant left tackle James Hudson. 15 yard penalty, 5 yard false start. 15 yard penalty, 5yard false start. Hustle was benched the following drive and got into it on the sideline with Brian Dayball. We just saw last week. Malik Neighbors, bro, I just want you to know. What do you want Them to do. On the first possession of the game, you give up 15 yards, 20 yards, 35 yards, 40 yards in penalties.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So I just try to figure out. I've been trying to figure out, what does he want? What does he want the coaches to do?

[Chad Johnson]

I don't think he understands that that affects the game in the long run. It affects the game in the long run. Every play counts. Every play matters. Every. Even in the beginning of the game. You don't know what could have happened on that first drive if he didn't kill it had the.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's.

[Chad Johnson]

That's all. That's all. I don't. I don't. I don't think players understand. Every play counts. Every single one. Now, that me. There might be one or two that change the game itself or two. And in that first drive, one of those plays that would have changed that game, it could have been right there where you keep jumping off sides or you haven't. You. You costing your team. You costing your team. Why are you getting into it with the codes? Yeah, we got. We got to bench you. They did that in little league, huh? When you mess up consistently over and over, you got to go sit down. You costing us because at the end.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Of the day, you either coach it or you condoning it. Now which one is it, Ocho? Are you coaching this type of behavior? Are you condoning this type of behavior? With either case, you're wrong. And I wish this young. I wish this. And like, oh, sometimes you're so close to a situation, you don't see it or you don't understand it. But I hope he got an opportunity to sit back and look at his actions. And sometimes it becomes. When you become. You can become reflective, when you can reflect like, damn, that wasn't the coach fault. That's on me. It's on me. It's on me, guys. I'm sorry. He should apologize to the team. The question that I have is that I've seen back to back weeks. I've seen people blowing up at the coach. That's not a good sign, Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

No, not. Not at all. Not at all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because I'm telling you what. I'm telling you what the people upstairs that pay. That paid Dave all. Is he losing his team? Does he have control of this team? Can he coach this team? Those are the questions that they're asking.

[Chad Johnson]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I don't look at. Like I said, I hadn't had a whole lot of head coaches, Ocho, but I don't remember. I don't remember about doing that to Dan Reeves. I don't remember anybody doing that. Mike Shanahan, I don't remember that. Doing that to Wade Phillips. I'm just like, Brian, I don't know, guys, I don't know. Like, you know what? I guess this to be expected. I'm old school. I've been. I'm so far removed for it. I removed from it. I guess this is the modern day behavior. This is how guys, instead of accepting accountability that, you know what? I messed up, I got the holding call, I got the false start. It's somebody else's fault. I guess that's where we are right now. So I guess this is why I couldn't coach. I could, I could.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, I listen, it's a different era of football, is a different era of player in general. The money is different that they are making. The funny thing about it, it's okay to make. Yes, things are going to happen. The point of practicing is to practice to get it perfect and do it as many times as you can the right way. Our mistake can happen, yes. But for them to happen back to back to back to back and you cost your team, affecting your team. Now you got to sit down. You got to sit down. So I'm not, I'm even, I'm not even sure how you even argue the fact, but I mean, I, I don't know. I don't know. That was a left tackle. Yeah, that's the money position.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So, yeah, I don't, I don't. Like I said, I don't know. Now is that guys, like I said, Ocho, you know, in, in today's the way it is now. But I think, guys, look, in this situation, I just don't know, you know, and I understand that Brian Davos is going to catch Flack because he's the head coach and he kind of bowled up. But where are the leaders? Where are your offensive leaders? Where are your leaders of the team?

[Chad Johnson]

Brian. Brian Burns. But they, they was, they, they was. Oh, they was right there on the sideline.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who?

[Chad Johnson]

Russell Wilson.

[Shannon Sharpe]

James.

[Chad Johnson]

James.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You just cost us 100 yards impunities. And so what, you want us to just leave you in there and just let you just keep going? They might have put him back in the game, but I can't after this kind of behavior, which I can't, I can't because the one thing I refuse to do is to talk, is to reinforce negative behavior. If your child acts up and you give them ice cream or cookie, what will they continue to do? You reinforcing negative behavior. I'll never reinforce negative behavior. I refuse to.

[Chad Johnson]

I don't think he understand how important he is, too. But you might be the most. The most important offensive player for the offense to even go to even be able to execute plays. Boy, you got Russell Wilson blindside. What are you doing? And if you can't take accountability for going off sides and having holding penalties, man, go sit your ass down somewhere, man. You costing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He got an unnecessary roughness penalty, then he got a false start penalty, then he got another unnecessary roughness penalty, and then he got a five yard. Then he got another false start. No, he did that and then he got mad.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, come on, Come on. Sit over here with me real quick. Come on, come on. Think about this real quick. Get your mind together. Get your mind together and we'll put you back in. But now you want to boyfriend the head coach after you messing up. You costing us, man. Sit your ass down, man. But you know what? You can't. You can't. You can't sit him down too long because obviously he's your starting left tackle. He just started left tackle for a reason. And your star left tackle is really the money position. So you're paying him whatever you paying him, so you ain't got no choice but to play him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Sometimes, Ocho, you have to discipline a player.

[Chad Johnson]

Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because other players are watching, and if. And, and, and. And. And you don't want the other players to think that's acceptable. Yeah, I've always. I've always tried to, like, when I played Ocho, I've always tried to, like, stay within myself. Yeah. There were times I was seething. Absolutely.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I know, I know, I know guys are watching me, and I know one day I'm going to move on and I'm not going to be there, and they're going to be in my position where they're going to be one of the better players. And I never wanted players to think that was okay.

[Chad Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

There's a time and a place for everything.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The quarterback messed up. Yeah. Guys wrong. Ran wrong routes. Just pull them to the side. And we didn't have nearly the cameras that they got now, Ocho, you can't do nothing. You can't say. I mean, even you talking to somebody, I wonder what they're saying. I want that. What they're talking. Or you might have somebody got the boom. Got to be. Got the, The. The. The. The mic, the. The big round bubble and picking up all the audio because think about you. Because you heard what Chris Jones said, that's on the field, Ocho. And they picked that up. So I just, I, I, I just. I just. I just hate this for the young man. Hopefully he gets an opportunity to get home and, and, and on. On the plane ride home, if it didn't dawn on him, Ocho, when he was on the sideline, hopefully on that long plane ride home to New York, he's sitting there and he's having a conversation with himself like, you know what? I need to be better. I need to handle my emotions better so I don't put my team in harm's way. Because at the end of the day, when you play a team sport, you. Your behavior is reflective on the team. It ain't just you. Yeah, John McEnroe can blow up and get all he want to, but guess what, Ocho? He's playing singles. A golfer can get mad and break his club. That's your club. Hell, that's one less club in your bag.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. And I know one thing is to blow up like that, understanding that you're not even. You're not even the starter. Huh? He not even a starter. And I'm surprised somebody ain't say. And see what you're doing right now. The mistakes you making right now is why you're not the starting left tackle anyway, which is why you're coming off the bench. And the only reason you in the game is because the starter is injured, hurt.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm not sure what's wrong with Andrew Thomas. But here's the thing, though.

[Chad Johnson]

Now you see why that's what I. If I was the ball, I would have told him. Now you see why your ass ain't starting.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You better be careful because you're not starting. That type of behavior get you cut.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, they show you that, though. Faster. Faster than you could. All right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Andrew. Andrew Thomas is out with Liz Frank. Do they expect him. They expect him back at some point, Right? Because he had it last year. He didn't just do it. Yeah. So he's. He's trying to come back. And that's. That's. That's a tough injury for a tackle because, you know, everything. Everything's on your toes, Ocho. You got to push off your toes. You got a kick.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, everything.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So. Everything. I. I hate that. Like I said, I don't know Brian Day ball for. I don't know Brian Day ball from a can of paint. I just know what higher ups thinks when they see this type of behavior and they see it reoccurring.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Well, the hard part Is. Is the season's already started, so there's really nobody else to bring in. And you have to rely on him. No matter.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah, for sure.

[Chad Johnson]

Because anybody. Any. Anybody that's available, they available for a reason. Yeah. But, hey, you see my view and you see what's over my shoulder. You know what that is? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jerry announced after the game the Cowboys have signed Edge, Rush, Jadavian, Clowney, Ocho. How much will that help the defense? They did sack Russ three times today. You got him, Clark. Kenny Clark got him once. Houston got him once.

[Chad Johnson]

Man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What else that come from? Am I. Am I blind or something? I see Kenny Clark got one. Hudson got. Houston got one. But they said he got three sacks. What other one? Who got the other sack? Ash, Am I missing something? Maybe my eyes are bad. I just. Baby. Baby.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey. But the addition to Jvon Jadavian, Just Davian. It's gonna be good. He destructive. He has a motor. He gonna get after the quarterback. He's. He's okay against the run. They're. They're gonna be all right. They're gonna be all right. Any. Any help they can get defensively is gonna be good. It's gonna be. It's gonna be really good because they gonna need it. They gonna need it.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Sponsored by Chumba Casino. No purchase necessary. VGW Group Void where Prohibited by law CTNCs 21/ravens beat the Browns by the score of 41 17, Ravens linebacker Calvin Oy told the Raven told reporters that the Baltimore defense had a team dinner meeting in order to get beyond last week. Fourth Fourth Quarter Collapse it worked. The Ravens are now 13 and 2 following losses since 2022. It was a 103 half at the half, miles Garrett said after the game. I mean this ish is embarrassing. We got to be better on defense. We got to be better as a team. They slowly chipped away and we did a solid job holding them to three when we could. But then eventually the dam broke and we just whatever they wanted and we have to continue to play for 60 minutes. Kevin Stefanski said after the game that won't that he won't consider a QB change. Hey Miles, enjoy that 160 million because this is what it's going to be like in your future until y' all get until you get a quarterback. This is what you're going to be resigned to. Now I look maybe you know, getting a million, couple of 2 million, you know, $2 million a month every Game check. Ocho before taxes. Maybe that. Maybe that lessens it some. This is your fate. This is your fate. This is. Ocho, let's be real. This is what this is. This is what's going to happen in.

[Chad Johnson]

Cleveland unless something miraculously happens. We do know that Joe Flacco can go on the run offensively.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's over, Ocho. It's over. You watched him today. It's over.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, yeah, today. But you gotta understand who they playing against. Now you're playing against a divisional opponent that knows you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me ask you a question.

[Chad Johnson]

What you like to do when he.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Was in Cleveland the first time, why didn't they keep him? He was the guy. He went to Indy. Why didn't they keep him if he was the guy? He went to the jets, you know the direction. Why didn't they keep him if he was the guy?

[Chad Johnson]

You know why? I'm not. I'm not saying he's the guy. I'm not saying he's a guy. But it's what you had to deal with right now. And they definitely don't want to. They definitely don't want to make a move that early. The quarterback, number two. Because basically what you're telling your team is we waving the white flag and we throwing it all in and we're gonna worry about starting our future. Right now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't got a flag. I got a sheet. I got anything that's white and I'm waving it.

[Chad Johnson]

It's week two. You can't. You can't wait. You can't wave the towel to maybe week five, week six, and stuff still ain't going well. You said it yourself. What week? You said they were going to switch quarter.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Switch quarterback with the Giants eight.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, you said the Giants. Well, hell.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Cleveland. Cleveland gonna be much more than that.

[Chad Johnson]

Week six, Week six. Week six. If anything, man, week six.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I can just imagine how Cleveland receivers feeling. It's tough to continuously run routes, try to get open, and you're like, hey, I give, I give, I give. Cleveland's deep rush defense, 21 rushes, 45 yards. But Lamar had 19 or 29 for 225 and four Tubs passing.

[Chad Johnson]

He did. They did say they were gonna stop Derek Henry. Did Grant Dale Pitt did say it's not hard to tackle Derrick Henry. They did a good job on Derrick Henry. Not everybody. Everywhere else. Through the air.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Zay Flowers at 775. D Hop was 2 for 64, a touchdown. Walker 2 for 26, two touchdowns, Wallace 2 for 25, a touchdown. Oh, Man, Roquan Smith had himself a day 15 total, 15 total tackles and a fumble return for a touchdown. They got up to the quarterback. They got up the fl. Look, Flacco is a statue.

[Chad Johnson]

He can't move, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

He never could.

[Chad Johnson]

That ain't never been his forte.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I was special teams. I was. That's how I made the team. That's why I started. I cut my teeth on the special teams, but 267 didn't go in as a special teams player. You would have checked my resume. Stop playing with me.

[Chad Johnson]

Talk to him, huh? Let him know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

267. There've been 30,000 men that played this game, coached this game, own team, been a general manager. 30,000.

[Chad Johnson]

Come on now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know what. I don't know. I don't know what. No, I don't know what. 267. What percentage of 30,000? Eels. But they're less than 400 men that got a gold jacket.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Of 30,000.

[Chad Johnson]

I can tell you what. I can tell you what that percentage is. You know, I was a math major. 2.2%. 2.2.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look, yeah, I just. It's just oo is tough. And I just. I feel bad for the Browns fans because the one thing I know, having played in Cleveland, no matter how bad they suck, those fans still so came and sold out. Now, a lot of times they might have had bags on the head and they might have booed when things weren't going well, but they out there tailgating, knowing that their team gonna get the brakes beat off them. But they show up, they look, man, every time, if any, like, you know, like certain fan bases. Ocho, just one time.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If Cleveland get an opportunity to say, man, we went to the Super Bowl, I know everybody wants to win, but for those, some of those fans to get an opportunity to see. Man, like I said, Brown's got some loyal ass fans. And I played them when I was in Denver and I went when they was at. Oh, when they was old Cleveland and I played them at Baltimore. Obviously they loved it. Browns, man, they love the Browns. But ain't got no quarterback. Ain't got no quarterback. I don't care. I don't care how good your defense is. Not in today's game. Yeah, I know. Everybody say what y' all did. Yeah. With the Ravens in 2000, it's 2025.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's damn near quarter century ago. Nobody's playing football like they played a quarter century ago.

[Chad Johnson]

No, absolutely not. The rules.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The rules don't permit it. And guess what? You're paying a quarterback, all that money, you're not gonna pay him to turn around and hand the ball off.

[Chad Johnson]

It's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look, they're gonna have to find a quarterback. They thought they had a quarterback with j. With desean. For whatever reason, it didn't work out. He's been injured. He showed an injury, got an Achilles injury, and it seems like he's working his way back. I don't know if he's gonna come back this year. We'll see. But Ocho, without a quarterback, Ocho, they're not gonna do nothing.

[Chad Johnson]

You don't have a chance.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't care.

[Chad Johnson]

And this ain't this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You need 10 miles, Gary.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, it ain't even. It ain't even about the Browns.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh?

[Chad Johnson]

That goes for any.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Sure.

[Chad Johnson]

Until you figure out your quarterback position, you're not going to have any type of success. Now, you could have flashes of brilliance. You could have success maybe for a game, maybe two, but it's all about being consistent week in and week out and having a chance at winning each week. Right now, they just. They just don't have that. They don't have it. But they don't think they're gonna have. They're gonna have games where they go out there and win. They're gonna have games where they. They go out in flacco gonna throw for 303 TD. You. We're gonna have games like that at some point this season. I guarantee you that. That's just. That's just the way that. That's just the way the Florida game works, just in general.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, they must be gonna have one of them games on playing on a Tuesday or Friday. And we don't. We don't. We don't have nightcap on those days. Kevin Stefanski said after the game that he won't consider quarterback change for week three. Before the game, Adam Shefter dropped a bomb. The Ravens were planning to draft Shador Sanders in the fifth round with the 141st pick. But before the Ravens could turn the card in, Shador let it be known to Baltimore that he didn't want to. He didn't want to be on the roster with Lamar where he wouldn't have a chance to play anytime soon. Shador did not want to be drafted by Baltimore and preferred to end up in a place where he might have a better chance to play sooner. The Ravens instead drafted an offensive lineman, Carson Vincent, with the 141st pick. I'm just glad should do it. Was asked about it after the game, my response is I'm focused on the now. I don't really talk about anything in the past and whatever happened in the past, it is what it is. I'm more focused on it now. I'm more focused on how the game that we just gonna ahead and figuring out how to move forward from now. You wouldn't even believe my memory don't even go back that far. So. Yeah, I don't even remember anything post draft. I remember I'm here. I go to practice every day and it's a 24 hour rule. It serves no purpose in my life.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, hey, we don't even have that kind of power coming into a draft though, as, as a player. You saying where you don't want to go, you don't have that kind of power.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I, you don't. Let me tell you something about the Ravens. I, I, I don't know Shador situation. The Ravens. I can only speak to to what I know. I know Ozzy, I know Dacosta, and I know the owner, Steve Bashadi.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When Tio was supposed to go to the Ravens and he said he didn't.

[Chad Johnson]

Want to go, he said he named.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They obliged.

[Chad Johnson]

We know why.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, they said, you know what? Don't worry about it. Boom, boom, boom. The NFL and them, they worked out some type of agreement. Tio ended up in Philly. If he said this, they would have obliged him.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, but I doubt it though. I doubt it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know what? I, I would, I would like to say more, but unfortunately I think we should move on from this.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, it serves.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I'll leave it at that.

[Chad Johnson]

It serves no purpose.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'll leave it at that. Chat y' all deduce whatever y' all wanted to deduce from it. Bingles Beat the Jaguars 3127. Joe Burrow. Joe.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, wait. Who, who, who?

[Shannon Sharpe]

The Bengals beat the Jags 3127. Joe Burrow is dealing with toe injury that could require surgery. Images of Burrow left toe injury is being sent to noted foot specialist Dr. Robert Anderson to be reviewed. According to Adam Schefter, if surgery is deemed necessary, it is expected to sideline Burrow for approximately three months.

[Chad Johnson]

If the key word was if they sent the photo to the doctor, the doctor. Ain't no way in hell. He made no goddamn diagnosis. This, this that quick? He made no diagnosis that quick.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Joe, you make it seem like I'm the doctor, like I'm the X.

[Chad Johnson]

Ray, but I'm just saying I don't I don't like the way Adam Shelf and I don't like the way they reporting stuff. And, and they, they. They talk about it could be grade three and he might need surgery. He might be out. He might be out three months. Listen, it could be grade two. Grade two ain't number three. Four weeks and you back out here. Hold on, let me finish. It could be grade one in his day to day with today's technology, as advanced as technology is and the treatments and the ways to get players back healthy and getting them back on the field much faster than when we were playing, we don't know. And I don't like the fact that when they make these reports, they say the worst case scenario, it ain't got to be what's what, why. And you, where you got this from?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me ask you a question, Ocho. Who reported this? Adam Schefter. Tell the chat where you get this from? That it was even his toe. Where did he get this from, Ocho?

[Chad Johnson]

Well, hold on. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Before you, before you go on, can I say something real quick? When I saw Joe sit up on the sideline, right? I mean, on the field, when he turned over and the doctors came out and he got up, I knew his toe was hurt. Can I tell you why? When he got up to walk off, instead of walking normal, he was walking his left foot on his heel. So we didn't put no pressure on it. So I say, you know what, man? He done me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How we know it wasn't his art?

[Chad Johnson]

No, no, no, because if it was arch, you wouldn't put no pressure on the back of your heel. You know what I'm trying to say? When you walk like that, don't let your foot at the bottom. You don't let your toes bottom. I said, God damn, he done dislocated or jammed his toe. We. When he got tackled, he was. He was facing front down, right? Whoever let whatever lineman landed on him in the back jam the goddamn toe in the goddamn ground. So I. I just don't like if you're gonna report some at least.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So. So let me ask you this. How did Adam Shefter know they were sending it to noted foot special Robert Anderson?

[Chad Johnson]

Well, I mean, obviously they let him know that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So what else did they. So what else? So they, they let him know that.

[Chad Johnson]

Listen, they. They did not know. They did not. There's no way that doctor, that foot specialist gave a diagnosis and got down.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Five, six hours after the game, Ocho. No, but their doctors did. And that's why they send it to noted Robert Anderson for a second opinion.

[Chad Johnson]

A second opinion. But I, I, I. Wait, let me, let me finish, man. Let me, let me take Joe, Let me take Burrow, man. Let me text Burrow. Listen, I can get it right from the horse's mouth. Hold on, let me take.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think the thing is, Ocho is that, look, my brother had that injury and he had. And look, I'm gonna tell you, some guys that's had that injury, ask time. Time had that interest, and time said he was never the same. Jonathan Ogden had that injury. He retired. Jack Youngblood had that injury. He retired. My brother had that injury. He shot that toe up every week. He ended up having to put a steel plate in there so the foot wouldn't be in the toe. Wouldn't be.

[Chad Johnson]

Because you been as much. Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And he ended up having surgery after the season, and it was about three. It was about three or four months.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay, hold on, hold on. I'm texting Burrow right now. And he gonna answer me. He gonna answer me. But I see, listen, that's worst case scenario. You hear me? What you saying? What you talk about? This is worst case scenario. And we talk about a quarterback. We, we talking about a quarterback that is, he's, he's somewhat of a dual threat. He has great, great pocket presence. He has great escapability. He's not Lamar Jackson, he's not Josh Allen, but he can move around the pocket. Now, I, I also want to know, and I want to add that Joe holds on to the ball too long. You got to know when the journey's over. I didn't know when the journey's over. Especially in that case, in that play right there, nobody's open. You know, it's okay to go down. It's. It's okay to take that sack and live to see another down.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's hard because he wants to make, he wants to make a play. Ocho, it's hard.

[Chad Johnson]

I know he wants to make a play, but again, now we back on the table getting.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He's gonna be. Ocho, he gonna be injured. You, you resigned to that fact. Ocho, he's gonna be injured. Ocho, every other year he's gonna be injured.

[Chad Johnson]

It's football. It's football. The game of football is a violent sport. Injuries happen. It's a part. It's a part of the game. But what you want to do is you want to minimize those injuries the best way you can. The best way you can. And I would love for Joe to Say, you know what? Ain't nothing out there right now. I'mma go down. I'm going to take this sack live to play another game. Let's get back to it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oo. I agree with you. I totally agree. But here's the thing with a quarterback. What does the quarterback do? He dropped back. What else do you have to do? Shift his motion. And so when you start messing with that foot now, you start messing with your mechanics.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And the one thing you don't want to do is mess with those mechanics. Because the one thing what quarterbacks try to try to prevent and stay out of is developing bad habits. And when you start having injuries, guess what you do, Ocho, you develop bad.

[Chad Johnson]

Habits, bad habit to compensate for that area where it was hurt. I know what you're talking about.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Exactly. I knew it's. I'm not saying look, I think you look at it like, okay, how serious is the turf toe? They seem to think it's very serious.

[Chad Johnson]

Now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They probably X rated. Okay. Oo now they'll probably go get an mri. They'll send those images. They probably got most teams, Most teams. Now stadiums are equipped with imaging.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, yeah, we've got that. We got it right there. Right there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Guess what?

[Chad Johnson]

Right there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They said he got doctor. Dr. Anderson. I think if I'm not mistaken, he's in Charlotte. If I'm not mistaken, he's in Charlotte.

[Chad Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He's in Charlotte. Or is he. He might be the team doctor for the Giants. I. He. I think he's in Charlotte.

[Chad Johnson]

But anyway, listen, worst case scenario, I'm. I'm optimistic. I'm optimistic. And let's say, let's say, let's say, Joe, if anything, worst case scenario. Not, not worst case. Best case scenario, Joe misses three, four weeks. I say you come back. Steelers, October 15th.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, you said if he misses three or four weeks, he's not having the surgery.

[Chad Johnson]

Nah, nah, nah, nah. That gray. Listen, worst case scenario is grade three. I need surgery. I'm out three months. But I don't have no problem with Browning coming in as my starter. I have no problem with that. Browning. What can you do for us the next five weeks? Can you get us three? Can you get us a three and two? Can you get us to four on one? Make sure we're still in the hunt. Make sure we're still winning. Charlotte, listen, you got all the talent around you. You got, you got all the pieces you need.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what. That's, that's, that's why I'm just talking about the turtle. My brother had that turtle injury. If you. That game that. His first playoff game, he ended up catching three touchdowns against Detroit. He had that turf toe. That's why he was running like he was running like he had a club foot. But all he did was shoot the toe up every week, and he went and played. Now, you know, I don't know if they do that anymore. Ocho. Back then, that's what we did. That's what I did. If I. Shoulder injury, I'm shooting it up. Ankle injury, I'm shooting it up. I'm playing.

[Chad Johnson]

We gonna be all right, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We gonna be all right. Guys do that. Cause I had a conversation with Emmett. Emmett looked at me and said, boy, you crazy? He said, nah. He like, nah, Sharpe, I don't do them needles. I said, bro, you're a seven round draft pick. If I'd have got first round money, I might have thought long and hard about doing the needle. But several round draft pick. Hey, hey, were you. When your first couple years, you only made 130,000. Yeah, you.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, hold on. Let me. Let me see. Let me see if Joe takes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, but y', all, I'm just so. I'm just trying to point out some guys that have had that turf toe injury. Jonathan Ogden, he was never the same. Jack Youngblood. Excuse me, let me take. Jack Lambert had that same injury. He ended up retiring. Time. Time will tell you he was never the same. Yeah, he was. He was.

[Chad Johnson]

Charles Wilson. Charles Wilson had it, too. Wood had it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He. He was. He was never. He was never the same after that injury my brother had. Like I said, he. He shot it up and he played. But it's going to be very, very interesting to see how that thing. How. How it. What plays out. We'll see.

[Chad Johnson]

Man, I'm tripping, man. You got me texting this, man. It's 12:30 at night in. In Cincinnati. I forgot I'm way in Vegas, man. I'm tripping.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, we gonna be all right.

[Chad Johnson]

We got Brown in that quarterback, baby.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Can Jake Browning keep the Can Jake Browning keep the Bengals afloat?

[Chad Johnson]

I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you. How you gonna keep them afloat. Right here, watch this. I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you. You can hear me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can see. Yeah, I can see you.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, cat, y' all can see me? Brownie gonna come to the line like this, right? Come to the line. Boom. Safety gonna drop down in the box because Chase Brown baller right now. Chase Brown balling right Tank Will come out alert, alert, alert. Check, check. They got. They got goddamn chasing T.E. higgins. Man to man, bump and run. Hey, Brownie gonna hit his hip like this, that means go. Touchdown. We good, we good. We good. When you. Hey, listen. When you have. When you have them kind of weapons around you at times, it doesn't matter who's at the quarterback position, okay? But Browning is capable of running the offense. We saw what he did when he came in last time. Burrow was hurt, but he was like. He was out there dishing and dealing. He was out there dishing and dealing. I'm talking like a. Like a. Like a Vegas. Like a Vegas car dealer. That's what he gonna do. I'm telling you. We good. We good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Social media was not kind to Brian Thomas Jr today. They said he looked disinterested. One week after catching one pass on seven targets, Thomas had four catches on a team high 12 targets. Had a big drop on fourth down late in the fourth quarter. Ocho, I didn't get an opportunity to see this game. I was kind of going back in the box. And so, you know, I'm kind of like, all over the place. I'm trying to really focus on Dallas and I'm trying to focus on, you know. You know what I'm saying? OO now, Dallas. Who. Who's playing in that early. That early window? Dallas. Yeah. Okay. So what you thinking? Oh, tell me. Talk to me now.

[Chad Johnson]

Listen, it's one of. It's. It's one of those games. It's. It's one of those games. You. I want. I need to touch the ball. Get me involved in the game. Brian Thomas, Jr. Extreme success last year as a rookie. One of those games. He wasn't getting the target necessary. He felt like he wasn't being part of the game. That frustration, that anger, it a lot gets in the way of. When the ball does come your way, you get upset. It's happened to me before, too. You be wanting the ball. You get angry on the sideline. Same thing with Kelsey today. You saw Kelsey say, I'm tired of this. And then when the balls came your.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Way, you ain't ready.

[Chad Johnson]

Angry. Your mind. Your mind ain't clear. That's what happened. That's what happened to BT today. That's what happened to BT today. Young Bull, I know you're gonna see this lock back in. And when the opportunities come, you make the most of them. You're gonna have games like this. You're gonna have games like this where the team is saying number seven ain't beating us. You not. You not beating us. We not letting you get the ball. So when the oppo opportunity do come, you got to make the most of them. Young bull. You gonna have games like this. I know it's frustrating. I know you want to be a part of the offense. You're gonna have games like this. Get back to the drawing board. Lock in next week. Well, Trevor gonna get you the ball. Don't worry about it. It's gonna happen. It's gonna happen.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's. It's.

[Chad Johnson]

I hate games like that, though. I hate it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Joe. It always. And it happens that very way. You complain for the ball, and when they get you the ball, you the ball. Beats you up.

[Chad Johnson]

Beat you right up. Hey, like you ain't never caught like you ain't never caught the ball a day in your life, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So hard, man. Hey, we. We've been there. We've been there. That's why I always. I just kept my mouth shut. Just, Just. Just by look.

[Chad Johnson]

Did you see our defense today?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw that Trey Henderson, like, land, like, what, first half, second night.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Hey, he put the nail in the coffin. But the defense in general played well today. They weren't phenomenal. They weren't great. They were exactly what I said we need to be throughout the season. Just good enough.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, it had to be. Oh. Because your guys with, you know, Browning through three picks, so they had. The defense had to bow their back because he was turning the ball over left or he was turning the ball over.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, we gonna. We gonna fix that. We gonna fix that. You know what? We're gonna fix it. Listen, he only gets so many reps in practice. He only gets so many reps in practice. The reps you do get is to prepare you for game situations like this in case bro gets hurt. Boom.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Chad Johnson]

You're throwing picks. Okay, you know what? I gotta get. I gotta. I gotta get acclimated to game speed. I gotta get acclimated to tempo of the game. Being back in the offense, getting in the swing of things, it's different. One thing is one, One thing to do it in practice is a different thing to do it in the game. I got my feet wet, okay? Boom. Now, next week, I'mma dive in. I'm ready to get wet. I'm ready to get wet. Let's go. We got this. I guarantee you Joe gonna be back in four weeks. If anything, maybe five. When we play the jets of the Steelers. He'll be back then. Brown ain't Gonna get us to about 4 and 1. 4 and 1 to 3 and 2.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So at worst, no cause for concern for Brian Thomas Jr. Not a sophomore slump. Just. Oh, no, other.

[Chad Johnson]

He. Oh, no, he good. He good. He good. That's that boy now. Yeah. Listen. Understand his DNA, understand his makeup, his skill set. The Jaguars understand what they have in seven. He good. He good. Hey, he's an LSU Tiger, you know? He good. Hell, Malik, neighbor was mad last week the same way. The same way?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Same way he would piss. Look what he did today. One bad game. Hey, you good?

[Shannon Sharpe]

There was a lot made of Trevor Lawrence's exchange with Liam Cohen. It was like. It seemed like Cohen would say, hit him in the chest, and Lord, Right, that would have looked like. I don't know. I. Like I said, I try. I really try not to read Lip, so. Cho, because I don't want to be. I don't want to be wrong, but I did. I. I did see Trevor Lawrence do this, and I know what that mean.

[Chad Johnson]

Right? Right? Come on, man. Go ahead with that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Either shut up or leave me alone. I ain't paying you no attention, right? Either one. Stop it.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Damn. Hey, who the who The Bengals play next week? Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ask who they play next week. Play the bikes in Minnesota.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, man. How about we finna watch them, boy. We finna watch them. We finna watch, man, we finna watch the Vikings, boy. Especially after the date with the way our defense is playing. Justin Jefferson, I know you gonna see this, boy. You ain't catching Nathaniel. And we playing in Minnesota. And we playing in Minnesota.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Chase had himself a day 14 for a buck 65 in a tub on 16 targets.

[Chad Johnson]

Come on, now. Come on, now. You gotta feed the beast. We talk about the greatest bangle in franchise history.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Be getting at him.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, it don't matter who the quarterback is. That's why I say we gonna be all right. T. Higgins was cutting up, too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, for a little while. I've been there. Hey, I don't know what it was. Hey, look, I don't know what. What they was doing. So y'.

[Chad Johnson]

All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y' all just go. Let. Y' all just go. Let Chase just catch all the balls. T. Was like, if y' all doubling, they'll throw me the ball.

[Chad Johnson]

Hold on. How you gonna stop it? Because they put Chase all over the place. Oh, you want to double Chase wherever you go? Well, T gonna T. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I take my chance with T. Which one won the Triple crown? Which one is this? Thought of as the best receiver in football.

[Chad Johnson]

Who knows?

[Shannon Sharpe]

But let me take him away.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Nickel ain't too far behind. T ain't too far behind. T could do some nice stuff, too, man. Well, we ain't gonna do that. We ain't gonna downplay one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Stop it.

[Chad Johnson]

Receiver number two.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, T. Higgins is phenomenal. He ain't one. Yeah, one one has got a chance to be an all time great.

[Chad Johnson]

That ain't the T. I understand what you. Hey. I understand what you're saying.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what I'm saying. Take him away and make T. Higgins. I'm gonna make T. I'm not saying T can't, but I want to see it for a game or two. I know what Chase can do.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, yeah? I know what T could do. I'm telling you what he could do. I didn't seen it with my own eyes. He gonna top you every time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So in other words, he's equivalent. So in other words, what you're telling me is that he.

[Chad Johnson]

I didn't say equivalent.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So what are you saying?

[Chad Johnson]

I didn't say equivalent. I didn't say equivalent.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, you did.

[Chad Johnson]

No, I did not, Mike.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I said I know what Chase can do. So you said T. Higgins can do what Chase can do. That's what you're saying.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, they two completely different skill sets. Well, no, come on now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Even with his skill set, is it the equivalent in his own skill set? Is he the equivalent of T. Higgins? I mean, of Chase? No, that's my point. I'm going to take a guy that won the Triple Crown away and force the. No matter what you say, Higgins is the B side. Just like Canelo last night was the A side and Bud was the B side. Higgins is the B side to chase.

[Colin Coward]

No.

[Chad Johnson]

Receiver 1A and receiver 1B, period. And you know what? We gonna show you. I like what you're saying, because, you know, I'm a little nervous, too. You know what? Let me. Let me. I'm a little nervous. I'm gonna tell you why I'm nervous. I'm gonna tell you why I'm nervous.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nervous about hello. What you nervous about?

[Chad Johnson]

Because we. We playing the Vikings.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You just said y' all gonna watch.

[Chad Johnson]

Wait, I. I know. I didn't think about it. We playing against Brian Flores defense, huh? And you know what Brian Flores do? Hey, Brian Flores has all these exotic defenses, stunts, blitzes, people coming from everywhere, and it could. It can be somewhat overwhelming and confusing for a quarterback that's not used to seeing it, brother. Browning has to deal with that. If I'm Zach Taylor. I want to put brother Browning, and I got to stand up because I'm excited. If I'm Zach Taylor, I need to put brother Browning in a. In a great situation and get him in rhythm.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got to run the ball.

[Chad Johnson]

Run the ball. Get Chase Brown going. Get Chase Brown going. And once we get Chase going, Chase Brown going, then we could go to the passing game. Little small stuff. Unders, slants, quick throws, get Browning and rhythm.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Boom.

[Chad Johnson]

If. If. If we get the. If we get the. We get the run game going, then we hit him with the play action like this. Boom. Chase te. What we talk about. Mitchell boy. And you seen Mitchell Tinsley? You saw Mitchell Tinsley one hand catching end zone today?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I didn't see it, but I saw the highlight.

[Chad Johnson]

I didn't see it. Stop playing with the rookie, man. Man, we gonna. We gonna be all right. I'm telling you. I'm telling you, man. We might sc. We might put 35 on the Vikings, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Chad Johnson]

Stop playing. What?

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right. I be here, but. So in other words, Bengals. T. Higgins is the A side along with Chase.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, he been that. I told you that. I told that long time ago. There are very few teams in the NFL that have two number one receivers. The Bengals are one of them. The Eagles might be another team.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think. I think T. Higgins is phenomenal, but he not the A side.

[Chad Johnson]

Give me another team to have two number ones, huh? Give me another team. Got two number one receivers. Come on now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Don't do that. I guess you could say you can say Miami with Waddle and Tyreek. Okay, you can say. You can say the round with Puka, Nuku and Devonte.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, Unc. You cooking tonight, baby? You cooking tonight?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You cooking, you cowboys? You want to say pickings and cd.

[Chad Johnson]

I like it. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

There'S some bull job here.

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