Nightcap Hour 1: Unc & Ocho REACT to Chargers-Raiders, Bucs beat Texans + Melissa Jefferson-Wooden joins

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Nightcap Hour 1: Unc & Ocho REACT to Chargers-Raiders, Bucs beat Texans + Melissa Jefferson-Wooden Joins

Release Date: September 16, 2025
Host: Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Co-Host: Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson (Ocho)
Special Guest: Melissa Jefferson-Wooden (World Champion Sprinter)
Publisher: iHeartPodcasts and Shay Shay Media

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Episode Overview

This episode of Nightcap delivers instant reactions from the dynamic duo Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson on NFL Week 2 action, focusing on the Chargers’ commanding win over the Raiders, Tampa Bay’s statement victory against Houston, the state of the NFC South, and Baker Mayfield’s impressive resurgence. The episode also features a celebratory and insightful interview with newly crowned world champion sprinter Melissa Jefferson-Wooden, fresh off her gold-medal run.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

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[03:01] AFC West Shake-Up: Chargers Beat the Raiders

Chargers Take Command

• Justin Herbert’s Performance: Herbert threw 19/27 for 242 yards, 2 touchdowns, and managed the game efficiently even when pressured (12:51).
• Chargers Defense: Stifled Geno Smith, racked up 6 tackles for loss and 3 sacks. Defensive dominance highlighted by Derwin James and an impressive outing by rookie Daiyan Henley (14:52).
• Khalil Mack Injury: Left the game with a suspected bicep/elbow injury. Shannon noted, “He’ll be back. He’ll have to play with a brace...it’s not something that’s season-ending.” (21:02)
• Concerns: Both hosts agree the Chargers need to balance their attack with a stronger running game if they hope to contend deep into the season. “You can’t just become reliant on the passing game.” – Shannon (18:02)

Geno Smith and Raiders Struggles

• Geno couldn’t get comfortable, facing heavy pressure and missing throws (“Geno was bad tonight...he overshot some guys” – Shannon, 11:07).
• Chad praised the Chargers’ defensive backfield and questioned if this early-season form can last into December and January.

Quote:

“The Chargers defense was all over the place... I'm excited for the AFC West to see what the Chargers do—not now, but in December when it really counts.”
— Chad Ochocinco, [12:21]

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[25:11] Bucs Edge Texans on Mayfield’s Late-Game Magic

Baker Mayfield’s Paradox

• Baker Mayfield engineered a late comeback for the second consecutive week, demonstrating poise and creativity—“Baker jumps out, jumps out the window [for a first down].” (26:26)
• The resurgence of the Bucs’ run game, led by Bucky Irving and Rashad White, provided crucial offensive balance (27:23).
• Mike Evans was held to 5 receptions for 56 yards by Derek Stingley Jr., whom Ocho lauds as “one of the top corners in the NFL. He traveled with Mike Evans the entirety of the game.” (28:26)

Defensive Prowess and NFC South Landscape

• Both hosts stress how having an elite shutdown corner like Stingley empowers a defense to be “exotic and creative” (29:11).
• Shannon positions Tampa as the current class of the NFC South, with Atlanta as their chief challenge.
• He highlights that Mayfield is thriving because “they let him be him”—contrasting with previous stops (Carolina, Cleveland).(30:00)
• The hosts forecast a competitive NFC, with Green Bay as a major player and question marks around Eagles’ passing attack (32:34).

Quote:

“Baker has a home. He has people that believe in him. They let him lead in the way he knows how to lead. The problem sometimes with organizations—‘Well, this is the way Tom did it.’ He’s not Tom.”
— Shannon Sharpe, [30:06]

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[35:13] World Championship Track Headlines

Major Upset in Men’s 100m

• Jamaican Oblique Seville won gold at World Championships with a blistering 9.77s—personal best, after finishing last at the previous Olympics.
• Noah Lyles, the U.S. sprint superstar, settled for bronze amid injury and scant early-season races. Shannon and Ocho wonder if pressure is mounting or just “one race.” (35:48)
• Contextualizes Lyles’ abilities as a 200m specialist, giving him the benefit of the doubt until later races.

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[40:28] Interview: Melissa Jefferson-Wooden, World’s Fastest Woman

Triumph and Technical Deep-Dive

• Background: Fresh off her 10.61s gold at World Championships (4th fastest woman ever), Melissa joins from Tokyo.
• Race Execution: Explains her “survive and advance” championship philosophy—cruise through the rounds, unleash everything in the final:

  “When you get to that last round, it’s just about who can put together the perfect race at the perfect time...there’s no need to hold anything back. Just let it rip.”
  — Melissa Jefferson-Wooden, [42:27]

• Analysis of Her 10.61:
  • Felt she could run 10.55 or faster with a favorable tailwind.
  • Admits her start was weaker than ideal, powerful finish sealed victory: “If I could do it all over again, I would probably be that much more aggressive at the start.” (44:31)
  • Cherishes her “elite company”: only one U.S. woman (Carmelita Jeter) has run faster.

Mindset and Motivation

• Open about the nerves and psychology of elite racing—balances anxious energy with faith and focus:

  “I just have to control the things that are in my control and leave the rest to whoever it’s supposed to be.”
  — Melissa, [66:36]

• Goals for the season: Win everything—double gold in 100m/200m (rare feat, only done by Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce).
  “The goal this year is to win everything. I want to be able to say: I came away with a gold medal in the 200.” (71:08)

Relay Order Scoop

• Melissa reveals (potentially unofficial) relay team order for the U.S. (58:07), with herself running lead leg.

Upbringing & Growth

• Shares her journey as an underdog from a small town in South Carolina, not a top recruit out of high school, and her late realization of elite-level potential.
• Credits her faith, family, and a “control what you can” philosophy for her explosive improvement.

Memorable Moment:
Shannon and Ocho get into a playful debate about Melissa’s pre-race diet, after Melissa admits to loving McDonald’s before shifting to a chef-driven, nutrition-focused regimen on her championship run:

“She just told you she hasn’t had fast food since February. She ran those times in June and July!”
— Shannon, [70:08]

Closing Encouragement

Shannon ends with praise and a challenge:

“Don’t be satisfied, be greedy. ... Double gold, do something that very few—only Shelly-Ann has done both [100 & 200] at Worlds.”
— Shannon Sharpe, [73:44]

Melissa responds with humility and gratitude, highlighting her drive and pride in representing South Carolina and the U.S.

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Notable Quotes

• On the Chargers’ Defense:

  “I think the Chargers are for real. I think they’re one of the three or four best teams in the AFC right now.”
  — Shannon Sharpe, [19:00]

• On Baker Mayfield:

  “They let him be him. Let a person be who he is—play like a Raven, that’s it, just play hard.”
  — Shannon Sharpe, [30:06]

• Melissa’s Self-Belief:

  “This is my gift that I’m supposed to be sharing with the world.”
  — Melissa, [66:44]

• On Elite Mindset:

  “Tonight is your night, but it’s not going to be given to you. You’re going to have to take it.”
  — Melissa Jefferson-Wooden, [54:00]

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Key Segments and Timestamps

| Timestamp | Topic | |---------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:01 | Opening NFL recap; Chargers-Raiders reaction | | 11:50 | Chargers defense, Khalil Mack injury | | 25:11 | Bucs edge Texans; Mayfield’s heroics | | 29:11 | Cornerback play: Stingley vs Evans, defensive philosophy | | 35:13 | World Track update: Men’s 100m upset, Noah Lyles | | 40:28 | Special guest: Melissa Jefferson-Wooden interview begins | | 42:27 | Championship racing strategy, technical sprint analysis | | 53:17 | Confidence, “when did you know it was your year?” | | 58:07 | U.S. relay lineup reveal | | 63:44 | Childhood, growing up small town, path to track stardom | | 66:36 | Why track, passion, and financial realities of pro sprinting | | 68:53 | Training/diet shift, working with a chef | | 71:08 | Ambition: aiming for the rare 100/200 world double | | 73:11 | South Carolina roots, food, celebration post-championship | | 74:52 | Showing the gold medal, closing congratulations |

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Overall Tone & Takeaways

• Authentic, playful banter—Shannon and Ocho trade personal jabs, discuss money owed, and riff on the week’s games (“The man owe me $5,900 for two years, refuses to pay…” – Shannon, [10:06]).
• Committed to analysis but lighthearted—Balanced, sharp, and at times comedic, particularly when analyzing player performances, coaching trends, or nutritional debates.
• Inspiring and personal—Melissa Jefferson-Wooden’s segment is uplifting, technical, and human, spotlighting her faith, hard work, and the power of self-belief.

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For New Listeners

This episode is a must-listen for NFL fans seeking informed, lively reactions to recent action—especially Chargers, Raiders, Bucs, and Texans followers. The track & field segment provides world-class athlete insights, underscoring the pursuit of excellence both in pro football and on the world stage. If you want charismatic sports media with deep knowledge and plenty of laughs, this “Nightcap” delivers.

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[D]

What we got? What we got? What we got, baby?

[C]

Not one.

[D]

Okay, okay, okay. But we stack. We stacking them up, ain't we? But what's that?

[C]

I thought you in Vegas. I ain't know you was in Paris. Ain't no weak.

[D]

Hey, hey, boy. We winning the wars, boy.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[D]

But I'm confused.

[C]

What.

[D]

I mean, you got three, so I got. I got three, too.

[C]

Unfortunately, Ocho, until I get that bread, I. Hey, and you still got this one right here.

[D]

Hey, hey, hey. Y' all got. Y' all got my address in Miami, huh?

[C]

Nah, we sent it to the other Place. The place that you were staying before. That's the address that we got. I'm not there.

[D]

I'm not there no more. What you doing?

[C]

Well, you better go over there and knock on the door and beg and.

[D]

Say, I ain't gonna do none of that. Now, that's not gonna happen. Now, what we need to do is we need to. We need to ig the right address. And you can send me. Send me two of them.

[C]

Ocho, we already done send it out. Nah, you didn't tell us no change in no address.

[D]

It's me. But that dress been changed. Damn near.

[C]

Yeah, now, but what that got. But did you. Did you share that with.

[D]

I shared it with you, uncle. I shared it with you. You was the first one I told. He was the first one I told.

[C]

You see this man that threw me as a bull job.

[D]

That's a whole lot of hard work over there. You got you guys sitting over there. I. I need. I need a. I got to be able to show my kids, you know, what. What I've accomplished.

[C]

Tell them to watch the nightcap, and they can see. Hey, if they watch the nightcap. Hey, I gotta find some place where this to go.

[D]

You ain't even got no room.

[C]

No.

[D]

You ain't got no room. Go ahead and send that. Go ahead and send that to your boy, man.

[C]

Hey, I'm sorry. Club Shay. Shay. You got to go a little further back. Bear with me. Chat.

[D]

Hey, why you take. Why you taking my stuff out the box? Hey, you heard me.

[C]

Until you take my 5,900 out your account, they gonna stay in the box.

[D]

Hey, don't make me do something to you, man.

[C]

What, like pay me my money?

[D]

Hey, go ahead. Hey, go ahead.

[C]

And in two years, champ. One, two, three. Hold on. Let's close. Okay, here it is right here.

[D]

Right?

[C]

So in two years. Oh, yeah, in two years. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.

[D]

Well, if you got eight webbies in there, that means four of them belong to me.

[C]

Huh? Huh? Yeah. You know what I mean, Ocho? I don't really know. I wish it was something I could tell you, Ocho, but right now, presently, I'm not gonna be able to tell you.

[D]

Hey, hey, listen.

[C]

I ain't gonna even hold you.

[D]

Hey, listen, I love you like a little Chad.

[C]

What y' all think I should do? What? What y' all think I should do? The man owe me 5,900. For two years, he refuses to pay me my money, although he buying houses with swimming pools. He's spending $12,000 on jackets. Tell me. Chat. Chat. I'm gonna let you guys decide, whatever you decide. I'll let you guys decide whatever you guys decide. If you say, unc, send Ocho his stuff, I. I'm gonna send it. If you guys say, nah, that man been owing you 5,900. He playing in your face. He buying. He going all these places, doing all this stuff, and he ain't gave you your money. So whatever you guys decide, I'm gonna let y' all do. I'm just what I'm.

[D]

Y' all don't get unhurt now.

[C]

All right? The Chargers beat The Vegas Raiders 20 to 9. Justin Herbert was 19 of 27, 242 yards, two touchdowns, no turnovers. Unless they gave that last fumble that they fumbled, But I don't think. Oh, they give it. They did give it to him. They gave him two. He lost one, but they did a great job. Gino Smith was Texas toast tonight. Whoo. He was terrible. Gino was bad tonight, but they did a great job of pressure the mocho. They didn't let him set his feet. And. And when he. When he had time, oo, he overshot some guys. He missed some throws that I'm sure that he's going to look at film tomorrow and. And wish he had back, but that's the game of football that we Play. Quentin Johnson, G3 for 71 on the touchdown. Keenan Allen was 5 of 61 for a touchdown. And Lad Monkey was doing what he normally does, is move the chains. And so the Chargers look really good now. There was a big blow. It looked like a bicep injury to Khalil Mack. He left early. He had it in a sling. Oh. But if you notice, his bicep was wrapped. So that's what makes me think it's a bicep injury, but I'm not sure. I don't know if they reported the cause. Obviously, chat. You guys know, I don't listen to the sound. So if somebody want to jump in the chat and said what it is, what they reported, I don't know if they reported. They probably said he left the game and was not going to return, but it makes me think that it's a bicep injury because it wasn't a sling and he had his bicep wrapped. But, Ocho, you're watching this game and you look at the Chargers the way they're. They're throwing the football and the way they can get out the opposing team's quarterback. What. What are you liking about what you're feeling about the chart.

[D]

The Chargers, obviously, offensively, they do what they do. Offensively, Justin Herbert looked like Justin Herbert, especially picking up where he left off from Week 1. But the Chargers defense, huh, the charging defense was all over the place. Geno Smith, time to be able to sit in the pocket. Defensively, they played very well on the back end. They look really, really good as well. I'm excited. I'm excited for the AFC west to see what the Chargers do. Not now, early in the season. We only in week two. I want to see if they can do this in. In December when it really counts. They can do this in January when it really counts. Where it matters most. All the moments that they're having right now. Justin Herbert playing really well. I'm glad to see the resurgence of Quentin Johnson. I'm glad to see young Bull finally playing well, playing with confidence, making plays. He looks awesome. So being able to see them in person tonight was awesome. Geno Smith again, having a life. Not having the time in the pocket to be able to throw the ball. Week one, they look really good. They look phenomenal. He threw the ball all over the place tonight. Not so well.

[C]

Yeah, I mean, 24, they can't. What? Neither team really could run the football. Ocho. That's the only thing that I like. Okay. At some point in time, charges, you're gonna have to run the football to alleviate some pressure on Justin Herbert. You just can't just let them tee off. But because the Raiders really couldn't run the football, they just teed off. They were just teeing off on, on, on, on Gino. But Gino made some poor throws. I mean, that one he threw down the middle lake. Come on, Ocho. You see, you see what's three names I can't forget?

[D]

Darwin James. Derwin James.

[C]

Yeah, Derwin James. You see him running. He running with him. Why would you throw that? Why. Why would you throw that? He. I mean, he put. He threw. That was twice. He threw one of the double coverage earlier and he got. And he got picked up, but he didn't play well tonight. I'm not break. Chad. I'm not breaking any news to you guys. You know, you watch the game. You know, Geno did not play well tonight. He played really well. As Ocha said, he played really well opening week on the road in Foxborough against the Patriots. 362 yards. But tonight. Oh, he was some slow. He was some slow tonight.

[D]

Very difficult, too. When you have a week one performance like that, it's hard to string them Back to back to back to back together like that.

[C]

Oh, I wanted up there.

[D]

It's really hard to string them back together like that back to back. Especially when you play a great defense like the Chargers. That, that guy Henley, he gonna want.

[C]

To come back cuz he told us, look at. He had 12, he had 10 tackles, seven solo, a sack and two tackles losses. Hey, Hand, if you want to dial in, you want to talk right quick, you know the line open for you anytime, bro. Tremendous game tonight.

[D]

He was all over the place. Don't.

[C]

He was, he was, he was hunting Aston genders, finding out what it's like.

[D]

In the NFL ball game. All those runs, all those runs that's supposed to be between the A and the B gap and trying to bounce them out and think you're gonna outrun people.

[C]

That's not happening.

[D]

You better hit that, do everything you can and hope and hope you get to the second level.

[C]

Take that two, take that two or three game or it's going to turn into a one or two loss because you bounce that.

[D]

Listen, everybody is just as fast, if not faster, if not stronger.

[C]

Think about it. Nightcap effect. We had Henley on, look what he did. Yeah, we had Bud on, look what he did. Melissa Jefferson, she was on, look what she did. Now I don't. Hey, I'm just saying, not just three. Now, if you want, if you want something to be.

[D]

Come on.

[C]

Hey, we had a Ryan Cooglone.

[D]

Look at what, look at the numbers.

[C]

I'm just saying.

[D]

Hey, it's not a coincidence, it's common sense. No, it ain't a coincidence. It's common sense. That's all. That's all.

[C]

Too many occurrences is not a coincidence. Y' all see what it is? Y' all see exactly what it is. But I, I like, like I said, I like, I like what I'm seeing from the Chargers, Justin Herbert. Look, the one thing we know about Jim Harbaugh, you can say what you want to say about him, he can coach his ass off and it gets progressively better and then normally there's a little tapering off. You go back and look at what he did at Stanford. Bill, Bill, Bill. Boom. He goes to San Francisco. Bill, Bill, Bill. And then, you know, loses quarterback and things start to happen. You know, they fire him. They had a budding the front office in gym. Whatever the case may be, he can coach. Every team that he's ever coached has gotten better. Once he's arrived, you go back and look at San Diego, you look at Stanford, you look at, you look at the 49ers. You look at Michigan, they hadn't won a championship. I don't know, maybe since 48. Gerald Ford might have been. Excuse me, President Ford might have been on the roster by the time. I mean, as great as we think of coach Jim Beckler, he didn't win a national championship. Oh, let me take that back. They won in 97. The 97 team with Brian Greasy, they did win. So. But we think of Michigan, we think about, man, they get this loaded with those champions. No, it had been over 20 years since they had won a championship. And. And Jim. And, you know, people was calling for his head. Old khaki pants wasn't getting it done. Ocho, he started off a ball, and then he was just losing and losing, but he stayed afloat by kicking Ohio State's ass. So, you know, you can buy yourself some time if you beat your rival, your biggest rival. It's kind of like Auburn in Alabama. You one beats the other. It'll buy you a little time.

[D]

Absolutely.

[C]

But Harbaugh can coach, and he has a quarterback that can make every throw on the field. But eventually, they're going to have to watch the football. I do not believe that you can just become reliant on the passing game.

[D]

That would be the one to knock. The one knock. Even if they won the game tonight, they have to be able to establish run at some point to make things easier and take the pressure off of Justin Herbert so he doesn't have to fall.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Keep the defense and whoever they're playing, you got to be able to keep them honest. No fumble, too. No fumble. Was that Omarion Hampton fumble tonight? Yeah.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

You got to hold on.

[C]

And then they. On fourth down. I don't even know if they called that a fumble. Ocho on fourth down, because it was going to. You know, you don't get us a change of possession anyway because it was fourth down and he tried to do like a. Like a jet sweep and, you know, 12 took his eye off the ball, and then the ball's on the ground, something like that. But if you look at them defensively, had 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. They had six tackle for losses, three sacks. They did a great job getting after Gino. They did a great job of collapsing the pocket, corralling Austin Genty, the Chargers. Yeah. I don't think I'm going out on a limb. I think the charges are for real. I think they're one of the three or four best teams in the AFC right now. It's going to be Very, very interesting how this thing. I know it's early Ocho, it's only two weeks into the first the NFL season, but they look good. They look really, really good. And that quarterback, he's, he, he's what they'd advertise. And I understand that he's going to need to do it in the playoffs in the big moments because we saw him in last year against the, the Texans and he was horrible and we saw him have a 24, 27 nothing lead against Jacksonville and they got Walt. So he has those two horrible Ls on his resume. But he's going to, he's going to be in some big games with that coach, with that team. They're going to be in some big games and it's going to be up to him to, to, to carry his part and I think he's more than capable of doing that. But I really love what I'm seeing from this defense. It's. It's going to be interesting to see how this thing with Cleo Mack, you know, some people say. Do we have an idea what they say?

[D]

Something wrong with his elbow when elbow dislocated Elbow Stadium. Obviously it goes up on the Jumbotron players out and it tells you a description on what it, what it was. They said elbow, so I'm not sure.

[C]

Okay. Yeah, yeah. Sublist dislocated. I know the feeling. Yeah. I've dislocated my elbow. I dislocated my right elbow. It hurt like almost.

[D]

How long is that out?

[C]

I missed five weeks. Well, no, let me take that back. I missed. I heard it in the sec, beginning of the second quarter. So I missed that game in four weeks, so a month.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

Played with a brace for the rest of the year. That's how mine look. Yep. I, you know, tried to brace myself.

[D]

On the ground and somebody came from behind.

[C]

No, the ground and you know. Oh, okay. I got it pinned. I could. Yeah. I couldn't get it out. It hurt, boy. It hurt like a mofo. But I think they'll be, I think, you know, the charges will be okay, but it's not something that season ending. He'll be back. He'll have to play with a brace. He, you know, J.J. watt played with a brace his whole career. He dislocated. He. Yeah, he dislocated his. And played with a brace on for the rest of his career. I couldn't. I mean, it's hard to catch when you, when you, when you catch the ball. Oo. It's kind of hard to play with that thing. I mean I had to play because they I played with it for the rest of the year and they didn't want anything to happen. But I know once that season was over and I got into an offseason, I wasn't coming back with that thing on. I know a lot of defensive linemen and some offensive linemen once they do it because they doing a lot of this.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Remember, Remember you could only bend your arm so much.

[D]

Remember Gronk played with one too.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. Yep. So it's Congratulations chargers, you moved to 20 and you sit alone atop the AFC West.

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The earlier game the Bucks beat the Texans 2019 for the second straight week. Baker Mayfield engineered a fourth quarter drive to win the game. Trailing by five points with barely more than two minutes left to play. Baker led a Bucks on 11 play 80 yard drive last week. Baker engineered a late road win with a touchdown pass to a Mecca to beat the Falcons. Ocho, Tampa.

[D]

Hey, Tampa, looking good, huh? Tampa, Tampa looking. Tampa looking real good. They look very good. Listen, you know who else we had on the show?

[C]

Oh, Levante David.

[D]

And look what happened.

[C]

He dropped that interception though. He thought he's supposed to get to the house. The dude I be CJ hit him dead in his dead in his hand.

[D]

He played his own defense for a reason. It still ain't fun being able to catch.

[C]

But you know what I like about the the bugs, Ocho, they can run the football. Hey, that guy, right?

[D]

I've seen Bucky, he broke off to the right side. I seen him hit that Peter Warwick dead leg on somebody. I'm like, wait a minute.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

Saucy like that.

[C]

Baker, 25 of 38, 215, two touchdowns they pressured him for. But on fourth down, Ocho, they had him dead to right. And he got up out of there, picked up a big first down. You can't run by him to a lower. I think that's it to a lolo Toto. He's from the University of Alabama. The linebacker, he runs by him, got him dead to right got. They got the Perfect play call. They got the perfect blitz call. They crashed him, and he ran by him. Baker jumps out, jumps out the window.

[D]

And when you think about quarterbacks that are dual threats, you don't really view Baker as a Josh Allen or view him as a, as a Lamar Jackson, but he can hurt you if you're not disciplined, if you don't come into control, if you don't come to balance when you have him dead to right, like you said, and you just aggressively just try to make the tackle do exactly that, come right out the back door.

[C]

He, he had 33 yards rushing. Bucky Irving had 17 for 71. Rashad White has 10 for 65. Baker had three for 33, 30 rush attempts, 169 yards, 25 of 38, 215, two touchdowns. He did get sacked four times, but they, they took care of the ball and they got pressure on CJ Stroud. CJ's got to make some of those throws that he, that he missed. Ocho, you got to make some of those. You got to make some of those. It is what it is. You got to make them. You gotta get the. Oh, you can't keep kicking.

[D]

That'll get you beat every time, huh? You got to score touchdowns. Got to score touchdowns. You got, you got, you do. And what did Mike, what did Mike Evans finish with?

[C]

Mike Evans had five catches, 56 yards on 11 targets. Look, you know, had Stingley, Chase had him. Stingley follow him around the whole day.

[D]

That was, that was nice. Stingley did a really good job. Stingley did a really good job tonight, obviously showing why he's one of the top corners in the NFL. And he traveled with Mike Evans the entirety of the game. The entirety. I had, I had to leave in a, I think maybe, maybe, maybe the end of the third just to get over to the raging game so I didn't have to fight no traffic. So I missed it back in the back end of the game to get to the race.

[C]

No, I mean, look, that's what, that's what, that's what you pay Stingley the big bucks, that he's one of the better corners. And you says, okay, look, we're gonna play, we're gonna take you take him, and then we'll play coverage everywhere else. It gives you an opportunity to free up some things. That's what you, when you have one of those guys and it allows you to be really exotic defensively because you feel you got a guy that can shut down their best receiver.

[D]

Much more defensively when you have a, like that, yes, you can. F defensive coordinator can focus elsewhere and do other things and expand the playbook defense. Because you know what? I ain't got to worry about this side so I could do other things with everybody else to confuse the quarterbacks.

[C]

Yeah, and, and, and all the great ones been able to do that. When you know Rod Wilson, that is a Steelers and prime and the Neils and Daryl Green and Charles Woodson Reavers, when you got those top guys, you can get really exotic defensively because you know they're going to be able to more time than not. Look, those great receivers, they go, they get paid too now. They're going to win some. But more times than not, you feel your guy's going to be able to hold his own. And so we. Now we can take somebody, you know, we can double, you know, take somebody else away. We can bring an extra guy because we feel we got a guy that can hold up where you really want to go with the football. But I thought Tampa looked good. Look, we think it's, you know, Tampa is the class of the NFC south with a little, with a little, maybe a little scare from Atlanta, but we don't think the Saints and Carolina is going to put up much resistance. So we look at it as a two horse race between the Falcons and Tampa Bay. I don't think we're going to, you know, there's a whole lot of like, nah, man, don't. Hey, it's only two weeks into the season. I noticed I ain't heard nobody in Carolina say, oh, it's only two weeks in the season. I heard nobody from New Orleans. It's only two weeks in season. You know, you know what it is, it is what it is. Um, but Baker, Baker has been playing. Look, Baker has a home. He has people that believe in him. He has an organization that wants him. They let him lead in the way he knows how to lead. They let him be him. The problem sometime with, with organization, though, Joe. Well, this is the way Tom did it. He's not Tom. Well, this is the way such and such did it. Well, he's not that. You have to let, let a person be who he is. That's the one thing I can honestly say about the Ravens. You have your own identity. Just play like a Raven. Whatever you do. If you want to be quiet, be quiet. You want to be boisterous, be boisterous. You want to have, you want to joke and tell be whoever. They don't try to make you confined to anything. All they ask you is to Play hard. That's it. And that's it. And I think the thing is, look in his, he was not going to the Rams, what you call him, and won the Super Bowl. They were not going to place Matthew Stafford, Baker Mayfield. So let's just say that the Cleveland and the Carolina situation didn't work out. He got hurt. He tried to play through it. It didn't work out. They, you know, you keep, you hear stories. They wanted a grownup in the room. Okay, whatever the case may be, Carolina, ain't nobody winning with Carolina until you get more talent around him. And so he went somewhere. They had talent. They had Mike Evans, they got Chris Godwin. They did a great job. Light, Jason Light has done a great job of drafting Bucky Irving did a great job of white. He did a great job of drafting some of those guys. And so now you see the fruits of it is like, okay, they still got a good team. There was a little drop off. Obviously you don't have the super bowl expectation that you they do. But from the outside, you don't have the same expectations that you have with Tom Brady. Tom Brady automatically come with super bowl expectations that he's Tom Brady. But Tampa, hey, Tampa gonna be the Tampa, hey, Tampa gonna have something to say about it now because defensively they can get after you. They can get after. They do a great job. Todd Bowles do a great job of dialing up different schemes. He can pressure you when he needs to. Vita Veil do a great job of stopping the run, but they can pressure your quarterback. So it's going to be very interesting to see how this thing shapes up. Let's see when we get by the week eight, week 10o Joe, we're going to start seeing some things like, okay, because I think Green Bay is going to be a major player here. I think Green Bay is going to be a major player when it's all said and done. I, I, I don't think the Eagles, look, the Eagles got to get their passing game going. We, we, we, we. Hey, it's going to happen on choice. It's taking some time.

[D]

The funny thing about it is it's taking some time. But they haven't played an offense just yet that's a juggernaut.

[C]

They can put them under the gun.

[D]

Put them under the gun and force him into doing something else outside of what they already do.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, I agree with you. Somebody gonna have to put some points on the board and they don't have no choice but to throw it now. You got to find a Way to try to get the ball to A.J. excuse me? Get the ball to A.J. you're gonna have to find a way to get the ball to Devonte. You're gonna have to find a get. Way to get the ball to Dona. And right now, nobody's made him do that. They, they throw the ball on their terms and then they get it in short, you know, second, second and short or third and short or fourth and short, and then you get to the tush push. But if you're gonna let them jump the count because the guards are moving, people are moving before the city.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

I mean, I've seen it in real time. And it's the same thing with the offensive tackles. You remember there was a, a push they. Hey, we want you to call the cuz guys were jumping. I mean, how many times did they call the Kansas City right tackle, Juwan? How many times did they call him bro? He was jumping damn near every time they, they crack down on it, they're going to have to crack down because if you let the guards move and can root people out before the center snaps the ball, well, you've created it an even bigger advantage. It used to be you couldn't aid the runner, you couldn't push him. But they say now you can. And they're going to jump the snap count and you're going to let them aid the runner. I don't know how you stop that play.

[D]

I'm not sure if the ref could even see it in, in, in, in. In real time.

[C]

In real time.

[D]

See it in real time. Because the timing of it when you slow it down, obviously. Yes. We can see it at home when you, when you play it back in slow motion, but in real time.

[C]

Right.

[D]

I, I don't think the refs can tell.

[C]

Oh, we had an upset at the world championship track and field in Tokyo. Jamaican Oblique Seville clocked the track. He ran a personal best of 977 in the 100 meter finals at the World Athletic Championship in Tokyo. Kashane Thompson took silver 982. No allows got bronze at 989. Seville finished dead last in the Olympics at the 100 meters last year. Yeah, Ocho is the pressure for no allows to stay on top. Is it getting to him?

[D]

I wouldn't think it's. It's getting to him, but obviously, you know, it's one race. It's one race. So at that moment, it's all about those moments. How well do you execute your game plan and what you need to do in that moment? Where it matters most.

[C]

And yeah, he hadn't had a whole lot of races Ojo, he's been nicked. I think he's probably only had, he's had less than five races in 100 meters. I think he's had even fewer in the 200. Now he surprised a lot of people by winning the, the gold and at the Paris in the hundred meters he's a 200 meter specialist. So I'm, I'm going to give him a little grace. Seville and Kishane, they ran really well. But I think Noah, he got to get some more races on his belt now I think he'll be better served in the 200 because that's his spreading butter, that's his favor. And so we will see because you know he's run that he's got the world leading time in the, in the 200 at 1963. Kung Fu Kenny right behind him in 1967. And then you got to Bogo the boatswain. And I think he ran like 1976, you know, a couple of months ago. So I'm gonna give him some grace. That's not to take anything away from Seville and Kishane Thompson. Hey Seville. But Seville has been running well all year. So has, so has Kishane. Both of those guys have been running well. Noah hadn't had a whole lot. Mj, Here she is.

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Here she is. Hey, joining us, the world's fastest woman. Here she is all the way from Tokyo. She got the bronze medal in Paris. She said she wasn't satisfied. She says I want to reach my maximum potential. And she did. At the World Track and Field Championships in Tokyo just a few days ago, she ran 10:61, which is the fourth fastest time ever run by a woman. We got Flo Jo who ran 10:49 at the at the USA's in Indy and in 2021 I don't know what was in the water because you got Elaine Thompson Herald run 10:54 in Eugene and then you had Shelly Ann Frazier Price the pocket Rocket Run 1060 in Lazon. And here she is. We had a conversation. Mj. I say I think if you with these ladies in with the right win, I say I believe you can go 10. I believe you can go sub 10. 6. You had a negative headwind, I believe if you get that plus, you get a plus one, you get a plus one. Five, you're going 10, you go in sub 10. Six. Do you believe that? Congratulations. Tell us how you. Before we get into that, how you feeling?

[E]

I'm feeling good, thank y'. All. I told you I was coming back.

[C]

You told you. Hey, you. Hey. I said when you win that gold medal, I said when you win the gold medal, make sure you come back and tell us about it.

[E]

Oh, yeah, and your WI fi is perfect. Listen, Tokyo. Tokyo. It's so efficient over here. Everything is great. The WI fi is good. I know it's good because I brought my game in. I could play car.

[C]

So you're going into. So obviously, is your coach over there with you? So tell me your strategies. So obviously it's survive in advance. You're trying to be as efficient as you're possible. I'm not trying to expand any more than I have to to advance and get through the rounds. And so that's what I'm trying to do. And once I get to the finals, I'm going to drop the hammer. What's. Is that kind of your strategy? Survive in advance, doing as little as possible?

[E]

Yep. That's the name of the game when it comes to these championships and the rounds is to just conserve as much energy as possible. And then when you get to that last round, it's just about who can put together the perfect race at the perfect time. And I just kind of look at it as I'm going to just lay it all out, because, I mean, I've been working for this very moment, so there's no need to be trying to hold anything back. Just let it rip.

[C]

Do you believe if you get a positive tailwind, you could have gone 10, sub 10, six.

[E]

Absolutely. I thought I was going to run 10 five, if I'm being honest. I knew it.

[C]

Really. Hold on, hold on. 10, 10, 5, 8, 10, 5, 5. Or. Or lower than that.

[E]

If I'm being completely honest, I thought that I had a chance to run anywhere between 1052 and 1055 with the right tailwind.

[C]

Well, that. Well, now you're talking about the right tailwind. You're probably going to need a. Probably about a 1.5. And a 1.5 would probably got you what you wanted. Probably a 1055, maybe a little lower. But I felt that with the women in this. In this race, you look at Julian Alfred To St. Lucian, you look at Tia Clayton. So you had the women to lose. Always Dangerous. From the Ivory Coast. She's dangerous. Dina Asher Smith. She's dangerous. Your training partner, Sha', Carri. She's run 1065. There's not a whole lot of women that's run 10. Sub 107. She's 1. So you had the women in the race, you had the track. You just needed a little bit more favorable conditions. And I believe you go sub 106.

[E]

Yep, for sure. And I say that, too. And then even looking back at the race, like, obviously, it was one of the best races of my life. It was the fastest I've ever ran. But I look at the race and I still see areas where I could have improved on. Like, I probably could have been a tad bit more explosive coming out the blocks or, you know, just running through. Well, I. I ran through my transition very well. I feel like the weakest part of my race the other night was probably the start. And.

[C]

But yes, I would agree.

[E]

And that's. And that's just because I like to be able to create the separation, like, my coach drills into my head. Like, you know, when we get in certain races, obviously the game plan changes, but for races like these, in this moment, you're. The biggest advantage that I can have for myself is to put it away in the first 30 meters. I feel like going back at it. Like, if I could do it all over again, I would probably be that much more aggressive at the start. And then you take. You take my start, make it a little bit more aggressive with how the rest of the race went for me, then I probably would. I probably wouldn't have needed a win. I probably wouldn't have needed a tailwind to run.

[D]

Matter of fact, I don't know.

[C]

Boy, that finish. Hey, T. Clayton pulled up. She like, where you, mj? Say, where you going? Get up out of here. Where you going? You ain't f. To get danced.

[D]

That's me. Hey, mj, When. When it come. When it comes to racing and always having a game plan when you're going against women that are. That are great as those that you went against today or. Well, what. What time? It's 1:30. It's 1 what? It's 138 out there.

[C]

Huh?

[E]

It's. It's. Yeah, it's like 2:30. It's like 2:30 in the afternoon here on Wednesday. No, Tuesday.

[D]

You always have a game plan going to a race like that. What part of the race is your strength would you say?

[E]

I would like to say my strength in my race is my start.

[C]

Start. Yes.

[E]

But sometimes I have a tendency. Like, I think I've been so focused on trying to make the other part of my races better, it's almost kind of like I find. I find comfort in knowing, not being complacent or prideful or anything like that. But, like, my start is kind of like the part of the race where I don't necessarily have to worry about it, just it. With my start. It just. It has more so to do with how aggressive I am, attacking the front side angle and things like that. But I really try my hardest to focus on the other parts of the race. So, like, the transition, acceleration, the keeping up with my frequency, like, I've always had the frequency, but in the past, I just wasn't strong enough to be able to meet or let it get the. Let it get the best of me, if that makes sense. So, like, my legs could be moving this fast, but then if my arms ain't doing that, like, if I can't keep up with the amount of turnover and frequency that I have, then that's when things start to go wrong in the race. So I feel like this year, just in that race alone, like, I feel like. I feel like my acceleration and my transition was probably, like, the best I've ever had. Yeah.

[C]

When you look at a race in training, I'm sure your coach is drilling your head. There's two ways to increase speed, Stride length and stride frequency. How far are you out and how quickly do you pick them up and put them down? You look at Usain Boat, he's the perfect sprinter. You talk about a guy that had a stride length and he had the stride frequency, and he's taking him probably 40 steps to run 100 meters. So when you said, I'm a starter, but for some reason, was it in the back of your mind? Did you know? Did you see that Tobogo had false started? Is that in the back of your mind? Like, look, I am not gonna blow this. I still believe even with these women in this race, you got Talou and you got Alfred, and you got Clayton, and you got Shericka Jackson, and you got sha'. Carri. They're in this race, but in the condition that I'm in right now, they can't beat me. The only way, the only person that can beat Melissa Jefferson Wooden is if I fall start. If I don't fall start, they can't see me. They got. They can't get number tailpipes today.

[E]

And it. It's true, because I think it's crazy because I Did the same thing at u. S. Trials. Like, I feel like this year my best start was probably when I ran at prefontaine and Eugene. So like a. Maybe about a couple weeks out before U.S. trials. But even, like going through the rounds at U. S. Trials, I was very. I was very, like, I played it safe with all of my starts through the rounds, but it was just, I think, I think, like, I agree with you. I think that I know what I have in the tank and I don't want to put myself in a predicament to mess that up. So I'd rather play it safe than to, you know, have that one time where I think, like, oh, no, this is the one. And then it'd be. It's a little bit too. Too much. So, yeah.

[C]

Is it a situation, mj, that maybe you get a diamond league meet where you don't have to run the rounds? Is one time. It's one crack. You know, I go over there a couple of days earlier, I get acclimated, I don't have to get off a plane and I'm running in three hours, Something like that. Well, I go over there and I get acclimated for a couple of days and I only got one race. Is it a situation like that where you feel you can put something together? Because we're asking you to do an awful lot. And I understand this, you know, to put rounds together and then run fast at the end, because even though you're trying to be as efficient as possible, you're still moving at a pretty good rate. You're still burning gas, so to speak. And so if. Do you think a 10 it was possible? But what do you think about if you just get that one race? So you know what? This it.

[E]

Yeah, I think without a. I think without a doubt it would have happened because then it would have just been like one and done like, this is it. You only get to the tank. Yep. Empty the tank. That's literally it.

[C]

When you. When you think about it, no American woman. And we've had some fast. Only one American woman has ever won faster than your 1061. Carmeleta, good friend. Hey, she run 1064. We got Sha' Carrier. 1065. We got Marion Jones at 1065. We got some. So you're in a very elite company. You. You. I believe in the next year, maybe two, you're going to join, you know, Elaine and flo Jo, that 10 4, 105 ish group. Have you thought about it when you. When you wrote your goals down coming into this year with 105 on that paper.

[E]

So 105 this year, writing down my goals. 105 wasn't on the paper. 106 definitely was, though.

[C]

Okay.

[E]

I had. I wrote down 10 68, and then when I ran 1065 at trials, it was kind of just like, oh, well, excuse you, what you're talking about, actually, to my own self. So. But then it's just like a testament to the work that I put in and me knowing that, like, you know, I'm a very firm believer in my faith, and I know that the journey that I'm on, the journey that I'm walking like God, it's. I'm right where I'm supposed to be, where I'm supposed to be. And so I can't put a limit on what I think that I can accomplish. If I say that I believe in him wholeheartedly to the fullest extent and that he's literally guided my steps, then there's no possible way that I could put, you know, a limit on what I do. So. And the same thing goes for the 200. Like, I ran 20. I had written down 21 9. That was my end goal for the 200 for me this year. And I ran 21.99 in rain and 68 degree weather. So I'm like, okay, Melissa, like, what are you actually talking about? Like, what do you actually think? You know, right?

[C]

So those are not favorable conditions. Cold and rain, the last thing a sprinter wants to see. Now, a distance runner, he okay with the cool.

[E]

Yeah. He's like, let's have a day.

[C]

He won't. He wants it. They want it to be cool. But as a sprinter, the way you're bound tight, you want it nice and, you know, 75. I do. 75.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

Give me a little. Nice little tailwind, but you don't want windy, you don't want rain. You go slipping and all that other stuff. So now. And I'm looking at this race and I'm looking at the women that's in this race, yourself. And Julia Lafford has run 1070. You know, Shericka Jackson run 1065. Shelly Ann has run 1060. Talu had run 1070. I think 1075, she. She's run a monster time. So you got everything that you could possibly hope for. You like, you know what, you look at her eye, you're like, yeah. You're like, this is all barbecue chicken, oxtail. Yeah. I mean, were you feeling good? So how did you feel going into. How did you feel coming into the championships? Because you had run. You were the favorite. You had run all the times. And I kept like, well, damn, you put. You had. You know what? What I knew, Melissa, when you put back to back ten sixes, I said, there ain't about a whole lot. There ain't been a whole lot of women that can back up 106 with another 10 6. When you back that up, I said, if she don't fall start, ain't nobody beating her. Is that when you knew you was ready to run fast? Really fast?

[E]

I. I think I knew after I ran Philly's Grand Slam that this was gonna be like that. I feel like that's when it started before then, but it was really like, okay. No, I. I feel like it was. I put the stamp on it. Like, no, this is your year to become a world champion. It was after that meet and then going into trial or going into prefontaine, you know, was the rematch of the Olympic podium. Very much so. It almost looked pretty identical to the. The finals that we had last year in Paris. So it was kind of like, all right, they beat you that time. Don't let them beat you again. And going into the race a couple days ago, I remember we were in the call room, and then we were. They were about to walk us out for the final, and I sat there and I just told myself, and I was like, melissa, tonight is your night, but it's not going to be given to you. You're going to have to take it. Like, don't just think that it's just going to come to you. And then I looked around, and all the women that I was getting ready to race against, they had all beaten me before. And I said, well, they won't get me twice. And I was the last before I got to the line. I was the last thing I said before I got to the line. And then after the gun went off, it was just like, well, here we go.

[C]

I don't. I can honestly say, and I follow track and field, and everybody knows I'm a big track and field fan. I don't know if I've ever seen anybody finish as strong as you did. I mean, because when Teal Clayton challenge you, it's almost like racehorses. Because a lot of time talking to Bob Baffert and some famous trainers, Ocho, and they say they'll tell their jockey, let the horse pull up next to him. That horse knows he's in a competition against this other horse. He just needs to. Somebody pulls up to his bumper, and he knows he's There. Now he gets another gear. Melissa. When Teal Clayton pulled up, I was like, okay. Oh. I said, oh. And then you like, what. Where are you. Do you act? Where are you going? I. I ain't even hit this turbo. I ain't dropped this nitrous on you yet. I said, well, damn. Did you. Did you know? Did you. Did you. Have you seen. Have you re. Watched the race? Did you see that? You got another gear. Did you see that for your own self?

[E]

I did. So crazy enough, I did see it. When I heard the gun go off, I remember me getting out, and I was just like, okay, you got to clear the pack. You got to clear the pack. And then I got to the military race, and then it kind of went blank for a second. And then the closer we got to the line, I was just like, don't do that thing you do where you, like, roll your shoulders, get all crazy. I just run through the line. And then after I ran through the line, it was kind of like, oh, I think I won. But I need to know. I need to see with my own eyes that I actually won. So I didn't really feel myself hit that other gill. It was just about really, like, just trying to. Trying to stay clear of everybody else.

[C]

Are you.

[D]

Are you nervous before races, I think about football games and right before kickoff, the music is playing and before they kick the ball off, I got butterflies in my stomach. Stomach is tight. I'm nervous until I actually have contact or I catch a touch of ball. Like, it's almost. I don't want to use the word scared, but nervous as before a race like that, before you go in the blocks, is there. Are your nerves okay? How do you calm yourself down?

[E]

The biggest thing I do is just listen to music, and I. I kind of get a sense of that, too, like, leading up. So I was here about maybe a week before we started actually competing because we had relay camp and everything. So I think that was probably the longest week of my life because it was just like, okay, Melissa, you know, you're ready to run. There's no need to be anxious. Like, just let the days go by. And then the time difference here was crazy. So the first couple of days, it was like, no matter how late I tried to go to sleep, I was still waking up at 4 or 5am and then it was like, I finally got to the point to where I was waking up at 6. I'm like, okay, that's a little bit of progress. But then it was just still, like, trying to get to the line. So I think if anything, like I don't be really, really nervous. I just be, I just have like a lot of. I be anxious in a sense, but I'm also like, you too. Like, I'll. I. The minute I get to the warm up area and I start warming up, I'm like, okay, let's do this. Like I'm ready now.

[C]

Yeah, you're in your element.

[E]

Yes, exactly. In my element. We're safe.

[C]

I'm looking at this relay now. I don't know who's gonna be on the relay. I'm sure you and Sha' Carri because you guys made the finals. You're the fastest woman in the world. I don't know if we've seen a situation where the fastest woman in the world run lead off because you're such an outstanding starter. And so I don't know what you wanna share because the relays are gonna probably come after the 200. So you probably have some other women that's going to, you know, qualify. Have you guys decided on a race order?

[E]

Yeah. So it's pretty, I would say it's pretty much set in stone. I think what's going to end up happening is that this is just as of today, obviously. I know that I will be leading it off and then my train, basically I'll be on the. It'll be my training partners on the. Yep. So me to tt to Kayla White to Sha' Carri is the last I've heard of.

[C]

Cool.

[E]

Last I've heard of anything. This is like unofficial. Okay. So if something changes, just say I, I, I. Okay? That's what I'm saying. Disclaimer.

[C]

So think about that. Ocho. We got the fastest woman in the world running. Lito. Hey, the stagger already caught. I don't know who y', all. I don't know who. Hey, we're probably gonna get lane five, but six, seven and eight, y', all, these stand a chance. Y' all by with your eight coming to get that. I'm switching them that order. Cause you're not gonna make me look bad and walk. Just have this stagger, walk down on me. Cause what's ahead is caught. What's behind stays behind. That's what coach used to tell her son. What is the head is caught. What's behind stays behind. Cause you already know she gonna eat up that stagger. Because ain't nobody else got their best runners on the, on the first leg. Most people put their horses. They put them at the second or they put them at the Third. Occasionally they'll sprinkle the the ankle leg, but you could be so far behind, it doesn't matter unless you usain. But ain't nobody got no usain. We got USA and she running first leg for the America. Hey, hey, you need to hit him. Hey, hit him with that piece out. Hey, just get the baton around the track. That's all you got to do. You. We got the fastest four women. Let me take that back. We got the fastest six women. You take anybody's six women that's currently going to be in this relay. We Got the fastest 6. Get the sticks around the track. That's all we got to do. Yep, that's all we got to do. We got this. We got this. We got it to a great start. We won the gold. And the woman's discus. We won. Krauser won the shot. His first. His first. His first meet all year. He's all year. Three time Olympic gold, three time world champion. He only the second man to win three consecutive world championship. Oh, we've been doing. Hey, what the hell we would. We done well the goal or something, didn't we? Oh, we're gonna win the gold. We're gonna. Hey, we gonna get this goal in the 100 meter hurdle too. Cordell, tense. I'm going on the record. Cordell Tench gonna get the goal. I'm going with Cordell. I'm going with Cordell.

[D]

Yeah, you going with Cordell. Okay. Yeah, okay. Okay.

[C]

Yeah, for sure. He been running great. He's really been. He's the only one that's gone under 13. Have you had a lot of guys 13 flat? 1301, 1305, 1310. Hey, he can cover some ground. So I'm going with Cordell. Going with Cordell. You know what I'm saying? Cordell? I mean, so have. So when you win the gold and you go back to your room, could you rest? Or were you just so excited? Like you just looking at that, like that goal like, damn.

[E]

So what's crazy is after, after we do media and then the other things, I've waited. We got back to the hotel room and then I actually had a chance to like meet up with my family and everything. So my parents and I have aunts, uncles and cousins out here too. So I had a pretty good crowd of people to come all the way over here to support me.

[C]

Wow, that's awesome.

[E]

Spend some time with them and that was good. And then by the time I think I got to bed, maybe around 3am But I was actually proud of myself. I slept for six hours, and I feel like that's a win.

[C]

Really?

[E]

Yeah. Because last year, after Paris, I slept for all of, like, three, and then woke up the next morning, was on my phone just checking everything.

[C]

So. So who. Who's DM'd you and said congratulations? Is there any, like, celebs or other athletes or entertainers that's congratulated you?

[E]

Okay, so I have. I have one. I have to make sure I say his last name right, but his name is Daniel. I believe it's Daniel Okuya. Daniel LaBelle. Daniel LaBelle. So he.

[C]

Who is he?

[E]

He's really big on social media. He posts, like, different videos, and it's. It'd be, like, little funny stuff. He'd be like, I believe one time he raced against speed.

[C]

Okay.

[E]

But, yeah, I just like his videos. It's like he has, like, 81.8.1 million followers. And I saw. He. He messaged me. He was like, congratulations. And I was like, like, oh, my God. Thank you.

[C]

We got to get your followers up, too. We got to get you up into the 3 and 4 million. Yeah, y' all do us a favor. Go follow. Give them. Give them your. Give them your tag. Give them your handle. How can they find you on Twitter?

[E]

Okay. Okay, so on Twitter, my name is Melissa. M E L I s s a janae j a n a e 21.

[C]

Okay.

[E]

And then on Instagram, IG. Oh, yeah, on IG, it's Melissaj 19th.

[C]

Wow. Were you always fast, Melissa? I mean, growing up in South Carolina, could you. I mean, I don't know if you have siblings, but were you the fastest girl in the neighborhood? Were you the fastest? Could you outrun the boys?

[E]

Some of them. I could. It was definitely like that, but I was, like, always fast on, like, the level that I was. So I went to a smaller school, my high school. I'm from the country, so my high school was like. We went back and forth between 1A and 2A. And in South Carolina, you know, that's, like, real small. My graduating class was probably, like, my husband will laugh at me, but it's probably like, 80 kids.

[C]

Yeah, well, I graduated with 60.

[E]

Okay. So, yeah, so about 80 kids in my graduating class. And then Coastal Carolina, you know, obviously is a smaller D1 school.

[C]

The Chanticleers.

[E]

Yep. Shouts up and then so that was, like a smaller D1 school, too. So it's pretty much like I've lived the. The underdog life of just, you know, being fast at the level that I am and being in that area. Then it wasn't until like 2022, where everything, like one meeting just literally changed everything.

[C]

That's because that's what I'm. That's what I was. That's what I wanted to ask you because you said I was fast for. For where I was. It wasn't like when you go look at Sha', Carri, she's at Texas at a big. At a. Where they got 3,000 kids, and she runs what she runs and she goes to in her freshman year, she wins the NCAAs, or you see Gabby Thomas, how she burst on the scene, or you see Sidney McLaughlin. That wasn't the case for you. When did you realize you could be a pro? Or was that. Was that always your goal, to be a professional track and field runner?

[E]

I didn't. I didn't think that I could be a crazy enough. I knew that one day I would go to the Olympics. I didn't know when, but I just knew that I could because of a coach that I had in high school. My freshman year, high school, probably. I think it was my. That was my second year doing high school track. And then when I got to college and I had the coach there, that's when I was like, you know, I think I want to do. This is what I want to do for a living. And I was. I got to college the fall of 2019. So that's when it really just was like, okay, I know this is what I want to do. I don't know how I'm gonna get there, but I'm gonna just trust the people around me to help me get me to where I'm supposed to be.

[C]

So.

[E]

And that's kind of how I went about it.

[C]

Yeah. But I'm looking, you know, when you choose to do something and it's just you. Because track and field is a really lonely. It's you versus you. It's you and your thoughts. It's you and your training is you and your nutrition. So everything is dependent on you. And ain't a whole lot of money in track and field. I mean, you can count it probably on, like, one hand, maybe a usain that made a bunch of money or Simone Biles, or Michael Phelps, Michael Johnson, Carl Lewis. It's not, you know, flush with money.

[E]

Right.

[C]

Especially for. For the women. And so what? Why? Why? I mean, I mean, obviously you go to college, you're like, okay, I'm gonna get a degree, but why track and field? You just had something deep down inside of you say, you know what? I can Make a living doing this.

[E]

Yeah. And then I say it all the time. Like, I just, like, this is, this is what I was. This is what I'm here to do. Like, I'm here to run. I'm here.

[C]

Yes.

[E]

This is my gift that I'm supposed to be sharing with the world. And so the minute I got an understanding of that and realized, like, obviously the higher I go into sport, the more sacrifice I'm going to have to make, the more I'm going to be disciplined. And like you say, like, obviously there's nowhere near as much money in our sport than there is in, like, football or basketball. But it's also just the resources that you do have, the money that you do have. Being smart with that and investing in yourself in order to make sure that you're becoming the best athlete that you could possibly be. Like, I feel, and I feel like it was so easy for me because I grew up always not having the resources that everybody else had. Never needed for anything. I've always, I've always had what I needed. But when it came to, like, you know, sports or the schools that I went to and things like that, we never had the same resources as the bigger school. So it was just like, okay, Melissa, control the things that are in your control and then the things that are out of your control. Leave that to whoever it's supposed to be to, and everything else will work itself out.

[C]

Melissa, I'm looking at you. You're a thin. You a thin young lady. So obviously you had to get stronger. You had to get. And I know women don't want to hear this, but you know exactly what I'm talking about. You had to get bigger, you had to get stronger. You were not strong enough to carry that. You needed to be able to propel yourself down the track. So women don't. Don't beat up Shannon Shark. Call a woman big. Say she did get bigger. But you don't understand what I'm talking about. But you, you needed to grow. You needed to fill that frame out. And you're still, you, you still a thin, you're still a thin young lady, but you're probably, what, 15 pounds heavier than what you were probably in high school, college.

[E]

If that. So what's crazy is I think weight wise. Well, and that was because you got leaner. So, yeah, I'm, I'm around the same way I was, but I'm definitely, yep. Have more of the muscle mass that I'm supposed to have. But I've definitely leaned out this year because I started working with the chef and everything and just, like, really paying attention to what I hear that, Ocho.

[C]

Wow. Wow, Ocho. She started working with a chef, and now she. The world.

[D]

Wait. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. She said she's working with a chef. She didn't say what she was eating.

[C]

You. She ain't eating bull jive. You don't look like that. Eating bull jive.

[E]

McDonald's.

[C]

You like McDonald's, too? Yeah.

[E]

I love McDonald's, but. But. Sorry, Ocho. I will say I. I have not been eating fast food. The last time I had fast food was before my wedding in February, and I said I wouldn't have any fast food until after I do all the things I want.

[D]

That's okay. That's okay.

[C]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[D]

Don't try to change. You heard what she said, right? Did you hear what she said? Did you hear what she said? She had. She hasn't had it since February. That's okay, because y. For tonight or yesterday for that matter, it's okay.

[C]

No, she. She ain't gonna have no fast food until she get back to the States. But guess what she said. You know what you see? She says, you know what, Ocho? You know what? I'm. Let me cut this fast food out and let me see how great I can be.

[D]

That ain't got nothing to do with it because she. Listen, she was fast while she was eating it, so she faster now that.

[C]

She'S not eating it.

[D]

You mad because you.

[C]

She just told you she hasn't had fast food since her wedding.

[D]

Since that was. She said February. She been fast all her life.

[B]

What you saying?

[C]

She wasn't this fast. She wasn't this fast last year and.

[D]

The year before that. Before that.

[C]

No, she wasn't.

[D]

You ran 10, 6 back to back eating McDonald's. So what you saying?

[C]

No, she didn't. She just tell you she had to have McDonald's since February. She ran those times in June, In July, Chicken McNuggets.

[D]

I saw it.

[C]

But. So now. Now you shift your focus to the 200. There has not been a whole lot of women to win the world championship in the 102. Is that. Has that crossed your mind? You start putting yourself in very, very elite company.

[E]

Oh, yeah. No, the. The goal this year is.

[C]

Is.

[E]

I won't say was because it ain't done yet. The goal this year is to win everything like I set up. Yep. I set out that goal at the beginning of the year when I talked with my coaches and I Said, well, you know, obviously at first, like for the 200, because I'm a very realistic person, too. And I've fought back and forth with me running the 200 for a long time, but now I'm starting to embrace it. So I'm like, okay, if you stop playing around, then you can actually win the whole thing. So it went from that to just telling my coaches, like, I want to be able to take the 200 more serious, to know I'm not only going to be like a contender, like, I want to be at the, at the forefront, you know, like, I want to be able to say, like, I came away with a gold medal and a 200, and I know that the only other woman to do so at a world championships is Shelly Ann Frasier Price.

[C]

Shelly Ann, who happens to be the greatest. She's the greatest sprinter. She is back to back eight and 12. She won the go the gold medal and then you got you. And then she got five world championships in the hundred and she won the 200. So she did. You're absolutely right. That's why many labor her the greatest woman sprinter in the history of the sport. And it's hard. Look, it's hard to deny it. I know Elaine has won back to back hundredth and two hundredths, bless her heart. But when you look at the totality and the longevity, she won a World Championship in 100 at 35.

[E]

I was in that race, by the way, and dead last. I remember there.

[C]

Man. Melissa, we're happy. Nightcap. The family is very happy, very pleased. Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you for taking time out of your schedule to come on and talk to us. But yeah, this is not the end. So what's next after the world championships? It's over. Your season's over. Now you go eat some McDonald's or you go get some oxtails or you go get some shrimp. Et. Oh, you from low country. You down Georgetown, near Charleston. So you going. You going to eat some, some, some. Some.

[E]

Ooh, rice, neck bones.

[C]

That's what I'm talking about. That's even what I'm talking about.

[E]

Can't wait.

[C]

Talking about. Yeah, see she down there, them geeches. She down there. Georgia, she. We see. Hey. Oo she tell you they got up when they. When they brought us. They got off the boat down there close to where she at, man. Congratulations. I know everybody in South Carolina is very proud of you. We're proud. We're extremely proud of what you've been able to do. But don't be satisfied, be greedy.

[E]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

Be. Be greedy. This is what I tell people. They say, well, man, they say, shannon, if you cheat on the test, man, you don't want to get them. All right? I said, if I'm gonna cheat, I'm getting a hundred. You there now. Don't be satisfied. Well, I got one goal. I'm happy. If I win a silver to bronze. No, no, no, no, no, no. Double gold. Do something that very few and we don't know how. Think about it. In the history of the World championships, the World championship started in 1983. I don't know if you know this. In 1983, in hell, I know. Only Shelly Ann has been able to back it up with the 100 and the 2. So you get an opportunity to do something that hadn't been in 40 years of world championships. Who'd be special? Congratulations.

[E]

Thank you.

[C]

Congratulations. We're gonna be pulling for you. We're gonna be watching. Hey, when you get that 200 goal, come on back. Come on back.

[E]

Okay.

[C]

Come on back. All right. We'll see you. Jefferson Wooden, the Olympic champ, the world championship 100 meter gold medalist, fourth fastest time ever run. Show us the medal.

[E]

Yeah, I was just about to say that.

[C]

You should have had the medal on the whole.

[E]

You got it in the box.

[C]

There you go. There you go. Look at that.

[E]

Oh, it's not.

[C]

Yeah, there we go. There we go. We can see it back. Back it up from the camera so to focus. Back it up a little bit, Melissa. Okay, hold on, Dick.

[E]

Let me just turn right there.

[C]

Right there. There you go. There you go.

[D]

That's nice.

[E]

Yeah. Got it last night.

[C]

Round of applause, Melissa, Jefferson Wood. Congratulations. Stay healthy. Hey. Get all of them. 204 by one. They might need a leg. They might. They might need a leg on the four by four, but I told them to hold off.

[E]

Please hold off. If they want to win, they don't put me on there. Not this year. I need some time. I need some time.

[C]

Well, congratulations. Go enjoy the rest of the evening with your family and your husband. Tell everybody at Nightcap we said hello, and we look forward to talking to you very, very soon.

[E]

Thank you.

[C]

Thank you so much, Melissa. Jefferson Wooden.

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