Nightcap Hour 1: Unc & Ocho react to Colorado Buffs FALLING TO Georgia Tech at home + Cowboys TRADING Micah Parsons

Summary

Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 1: Unc & Ocho React to Colorado Buffs Falling to Georgia Tech at Home + Cowboys Trading Micah Parsons

Release Date: August 30, 2025
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson

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Episode Overview

This “Nightcap” episode of Club Shay Shay, hosted by Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson, dives deep into two major football stories:

1. The Colorado Buffaloes’ disappointing home loss to Georgia Tech in the first game of the season post-Shedeur Sanders and Travis Hunter.
2. The Dallas Cowboys’ shocking trade of superstar linebacker Micah Parsons to the Green Bay Packers.

The pair, both NFL legends with candid, playful banter and potent football insight, dissect the games, the personalities, the coaching decisions, and the business behind blockbuster trades, all while keeping the discussion authentic and rooted in their own player experiences.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Colorado vs. Georgia Tech: Post-Shedeur/Hunter Era Begins with a Loss

(Discussion begins: 06:07)

Game Recap & Analysis

• Georgia Tech defeats Colorado 27-20 in Boulder.
  • Tech QB Haynes King ran for 156 yards, 3 TDs, including a 45-yard game-winner with 1:07 left.
  • Georgia Tech rushed for 327 yards (47 carries).
  • First game without Shadoor Sanders (QB) and Travis Hunter (WR/CB) signals a new era for Colorado.
• Shannon’s Disgust with Colorado’s Run Defense
  • “Georgia Tech has run the football since I was a kid... When you let somebody come into your building and run the ball 47 times, 327 yards... this is utterly ridiculous.” (07:14)
  • Calls out lack of gap integrity, contain discipline, and missed defensive assignments.
• Offensive Struggles, Missed Opportunities
  • Despite 3 Georgia Tech turnovers in the first quarter, Colorado only managed 7 points.
  • “If a team gives you three turnovers at home in the first quarter and you only score seven points, you telling that team, beat me, beat me, kick our ass.” (08:41)
• Quarterback Performance – Mixed Reviews
  • New Colorado QB Kaylin Salter: “He missed entirely too many throws... Bro, you don’t have to impress us with every throw of your arm. You’re missing routine throws. He’s gonna have to learn how to throw better on the move.” (10:54)
• Coaching Decisions: Endgame Clock Management
  • Sharpe critical of Coach Deion "Prime" Sanders’ clock use: “You got two timeouts and you don’t use any. Take those same two timeouts you had to start that drive and you go into the locker room with them… What the hell are y’all doing?” (12:03)

The Trenches: Old Problems Persist

• Both hosts pinpoint Colorado's softness in the defensive front and inability to stop the run as a holdover from last year.
  • “If you don’t have enough meat and potatoes up there in your front yard, you’re gonna get pushed around.” (18:37) - Ocho
• Defensive technique and want-to questioned:
  • “Football... you’re asking the one man to move another man against his will... Georgia Tech said, you getting your ass up out of here.” (17:39) - Shannon

Notable Quotes & Banter

• “In practice, they looking like Deion Sanders breaking on the ball. Now they get in the game, they looking like Colonel Sanders.” (21:56) - Shannon
• Ocho reflects on the first-game jitters for starters but stresses: “What matters when it comes to wins and losses? What you got up there in your front, what you got in the trenches.” (18:37)
• Ocho on opportunity squandered: “They had opportunity when they got that second and third turnover… That should have set the tone for the game right there.” (23:25)

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2. Cowboys Trade Micah Parsons to the Packers

(Discussion begins: 45:36)

The Deal

• Dallas Cowboys trade Micah Parsons (4x Pro Bowler, 2x All-Pro, DROY) to Green Bay
  • In return: Two 1st-round picks + DT Kenny Clark
  • Packers give Parsons a 4-year, $188M deal ($120M fully guaranteed, record for a non-QB)

Reaction: Ego, Power, and the Jerry Jones Way

• Ocho's Diagnosis: “This is all ego and pride on Jerry’s hands… You done put your team in a blender doing the same thing you always doing: all that talking before it's even time to play.” (46:27 & 47:18)
• Shannon on Jerry's Logic:
  • Calls Jones’s statement of getting “better” by trading Parsons “cliché talk” and calls out hypocrisy: “If you thought you could get better by trading Micah Parsons, why did you offer him $200 million?” (47:42)
• Dissecting the Negotiations
  • Shannon: “He’s still calling the man Michael Parsons and not Micah… this man don’t respect me at all.” (51:02)
  • Both mock the “handshake deal” Jerry claims he had with Parsons, emphasizing that real negotiations go through agents.
  • Ocho: “He had the nerve and the gall and the cajones to sue the NFL… and basically won.” (50:13)

Football Impact: Can Dallas Replace a Unicorn?

• Kenny Clark is “very good… but we talk about Micah Parsons, a generational talent.” (53:56) - Ocho
• Defensive philosophy critique from Shannon:
  • “I need a guy that can attack the quarterback – that’s what Micah Parsons does… The Cowboys’ offense is supposed to get the lead so you can hunt. What happens when Dak turns it over or they don’t have this big lead?” (54:28)
• Micah on the Open Market
  • “To stay in Dallas, I’d take 44 [$M instead of 47]. Because what can I do with 44 that I gotta have 47?” – Importance of Cowboy media and business opportunities. (57:31)
  • “The podcast is only valuable when he's a Cowboy… they want to hear about the Cowboys, about Jerry, about Dak.” (57:31)
• Ocho on trade aftermath: “When players get traded, you know how good the player is, and when they get traded, as a fan, fans start talking about, oh yeah, he wasn't that good anyway. Like, come on now.” (60:13)

The Real Cowboys Brand

• Shannon: “There’s a reason why… Anything attached to that star, you want to take advantage of that window.” (57:32, 57:45)
• Long-term: “If you let a team go run for 320...let teams get 300 yards running on you… please.” (27:30)
• Both agree: the supposed logic for the trade – fixing run defense – is dubious when trading away an elite pass rusher and leader.

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Notable and Memorable Quotes

• "In practice, they looking like Deion Sanders… In the game, they looking like Colonel Sanders." (21:56) – Shannon
• "That's why football is the, for me, mentally, the toughest sport. You’re asking the one man to move another man against his will." (17:39) – Shannon
• “You got three turnovers in the first quarter, O, and only came away with seven points... all Colorado did was yell across the field, 'Hey, appreciate the three turnovers, now kick our ass.'” (25:45) – Shannon
• "This is all ego and pride on Jerry’s hands." (46:27) – Ocho
• "If you thought you could get better by trading Micah Parsons, why did you offer him $200 million?" (47:42) – Shannon
• "There’s a reason why... Anything attached to that star, you want to take advantage of that window when you are there, because it comes with so much." (57:45) – Ocho

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Timestamps of Important Segments

• 06:07 – Colorado vs. Georgia Tech: Game Recap & Defensive Struggles
• 08:41 – Colorado's missed opportunities after turnovers
• 10:54 – Breakdown of Colorado’s new QB play
• 12:03 – Coach Prime’s clock management questioned
• 17:39 – The challenge of the trenches and football’s physicality
• 21:56 – Classic “Deion vs. Colonel Sanders” analogy
• 23:25 – Ocho on the importance of seizing early turnovers
• 45:36 – Cowboys Trade Micah Parsons: Trade details unpacked
• 46:27 – Ocho: "This is all ego and pride on Jerry’s hands."
• 53:56 – Ocho: “We talk about Micah Parsons, a generational talent.”
• 54:28 – Shannon on the importance of pass rushers in today’s NFL
• 57:31 – The value of the Cowboys’ brand to player business/media careers
• 60:13 – Ocho: “Fans start talking about, oh, he wasn't that good anyway. Like, come on now.”

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Tone and Banter

• Authentic, unfiltered, and rich with ex-player perspective:
  Shannon’s passion for the game and exasperation with bad defense and front-office mistakes are vivid. Ocho brings a more philosophical, sometimes humorous, lens, especially about player experience, team culture, and his social life.
• Playful call-outs, but never mean-spirited:
  E.g., "In practice, they looking like Deion Sanders… now they get in the game, they're looking like Colonel Sanders." Both hosts often riff off each other, amplifying their points with humor and lived experience.

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Summary

In this episode, Shannon Sharpe and Ocho Cinco deliver a lively, no-nonsense analysis of the Colorado Buffaloes’ home loss—highlighting their persistent struggles with run defense, missed opportunities, and coaching miscues. The hosts then zero in on the shocking Dallas Cowboys trade of superstar Micah Parsons, exposing the ego and politics of NFL front offices while interrogating the on-field consequences of such blockbuster moves. Whether breaking down Xs and Os, debating player leverage, or poking fun at each other, Shannon and Ocho illustrate why “Nightcap” is essential listening for serious and casual fans alike.

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Okay. OO College football is officially back. We had some games last week, but now the real game start to come. And tonight's game, Georgia Tech go on the road. And in Folsom Field at CU, they win 27 20. Hayes King, 13 of 20, 143. He threw an interception, but it was his legs that was the difference. 19 rushes, a buck 56, three rushing. Touchdown. The last one, 45 yards to put them ahead. With a minute and seven seconds left in the ball game. And they go on the road and they Defeat the Buffaloes 27 20. The first game without Shador Sanders and the receiver Travis Hunter. Travis Hunter. So Colorado is on the new era now. Hey, yeah. Kaylin Salt, I think that's his name. 17 to 28, 159, one touchdown. They ran the ball really well. 31 for a buck 46. But it was Georgia Tech 47 rushes, 327 yards. Yeah, Ocho, I was disgusted watching this game. Yes. I say, what about gap integrity? What about contained? Georgia Tech has run the football since I was a kid. Yeah, even when they had Megatron, they ran the damn football. When they had Demarius Thomas, they ran the football. Georgia Tech Runs the. It's like if you play the Naval Academy or Army, you know, they gonna run the football. Ocho, I'm like, livingston, are you gonna make any adjustment? Guys, what is your responsibility? What about your gap of integrity? What about, what about your contained responsibility? I'm like, this is utterly ridiculous. And quarterback Salter, bro, you missed entirely too many throws. He missed entirely too many throws, Ocho. Yes, sir. And number. And number 20. Got a nice set of hands on him. The running back, bro. He wide open. And I hate when quarterbacks do this. Ocho, when you miss a throw, you go to the running back or you go to the wide receiver. I want you. No, bro, I was right there. Put it on me. All you had to do is hit me right here. Don't do that. Don't do that. You effed it up.

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Yeah.

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And he had to go third and 10. He missed entirely too many throws, right? But their defense let him down tonight. You can't let somebody come into your building and run the ball 47 times. 320, 20 yard. Hold on, let me see. Before you go O. Let me see what?

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Yes, sir.

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See if I want to see. No, I want to go back. Box score, man. OO this was. I'm like. But I knew I, I was on the phone with my brother early in the game. I say spank a team, give you three turnovers at home in the first quarter, and you only score seven points. You telling that team, beat me, beat me, kick our ass. You supposed to have a bear. They didn't, and they got what they deserve. Yeah, go ahead. O I, I, I'll find it in a second. Go ahead.

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I say. Listen, what I was going to say is, obviously we all want to see what color Colorado would look like without Shador Sanders, without Travis Hunter, and they didn't look that bad. First game of the season, you want to get the kinks out. You want to see what areas you need to improve in. Obviously, we see defensively. Defensively, Colorado has to be able to stop the run because now it's out there on tape. What do we do when we play against the Colorado Buffaloes to have success? We run the ball.

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That was the issue last year, though. Oh, Joe. Damn.

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That was the issue last year. Obviously, Georgia Tech showed that that's an issue. That's a, that's an area that hasn't been filled. So that needs to be addressed. Boom. For me, for me, the beginning of the game, Georgia Tech tried to hand. Hand the game to Colorado. They tried to hand the game to him saying, well, God damn, in my mind, I'm looking. Boom. After the first turnover. Oh, them boy went down and scored. And then it was two more turnovers after that. I'm like, well, all right. I don't like the way this is looking because you got the ball back two more times.

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You know, three turnovers in the first quarter for Georgia Tech, and you only.

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Do something with it one time. I say, you know what? It's going to come down. It's going to come down to the end. Going to come down to the end because offensively they're not doing enough they're not doing enough offensively to. To put me at ease and to put, you know, to. To make me calm. Because for one, the first turnover, it was all the way in your territory, so of course it was easy to go down and score. But the other two, it seemed like you really couldn't move the ball.

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They didn't. You couldn't.

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You really couldn't move the ball. You.

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You.

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You tried. You tried. You tried everything you could to establish the run. The. The run was. It was. It was okay.

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They ran for. Oh, they ran. I mean, they. They ran for 146y.

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It. It obviously un. It wasn't enough. It wasn't enough. You.

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You want.

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You want a happy balance of both, you know, to. To. To kind of keep the. Keep the defense, you know, on. On. On their heels or not knowing what's going to come. Are they going to run it? Are they going to throw it? But they weren't good enough in the air either, huh?

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No, that's the quarterback. Oo, look, I think he has tremendous arm talent. Oh, yeah, bro, you don't have to impress us with every throw of your arm. You're missing routine throws. He's gonna have to learn how to throw better on the move because on the move, he's not very good. And you know, we gonna. We gonna be nice, Ocho, because these are college kids. These aren't professionals. Huh?

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It's week one, too. It's week one, Ocho.

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Throw it on the move. That should be able to week one, week no, one week, anything. You should be able to throw he. The throws that he's missing because that's third down. You're off the field. You want to stay on the field. I want another crack. Give me four more cracks at you.

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Right?

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And we saw him miss numerous throws. The second time he had an opportunity, Ocho. Why would. He could have ran the ball to the end zone instead of throwing it? Yeah, yeah, bro, we understand that you have a nice arm. I mean, we saw him launch at 60, 65 yards. But, bro, sometimes you got to understand, okay, this is an opportunity for me to. That was not the time for you to try to dazzle, try to impress us with your arm.

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Right.

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Pick up the first down. And another thing, Ocho, then I'm gonna turn it back over to you. I don't know what Coach prime then was thinking. They got the ball back with a minute and seven seconds in the ball game. You got two timeouts and you don't use any. You took those same two timeouts, you had to start that drive and you go into the locker room with them. So you throw one pass behind the line of scrimmage. You get tackled, you don't call timeout. You throw, complete another pass on second down, you don't call timeout. And then the quarterback picks up a third down, but he burns. 8, 9, 10 seconds on the clock. What the hell are y' all doing.

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On, on the scramble? I'm, I'm not, I'm not sure what was going on in, in, in that situation. Obviously you want to use those timeouts to give yourself as much time as possible.

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Yes.

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Continue running play to try to get down in some. In, in. In some type of range to throw a Hail Mary pass. I'm not sure what the. The issue was there, but listen, they got some stuff they need to work on. They have some stuff they need to work on. I'm sure prime is glad that college football is back. We're out there playing against opponents and not just ourselves, so we can see what areas we need to get better at. Obviously some areas or some of the same stuff that we had issues with last year. I'm going to start with just the running game. Being able to stop the run game, having, having the hay, having the meat and potatoes. To be able to compete up there in the trenches and stop people from running down your godd throat.

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Now, running the football and stopping to run is about will. It's about want to.

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Yeah.

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Because schematically, I can't do anything. Ocho, they weren't doing anything. He faked the toss. And then they pull a guard or they pull a double guard or tackle, or they'll pull a guard and they'll put a running back. That's all they were doing. They weren't doing anything the past game. Schematically. Ocho, I can scheme people when I run the football. It was nothing fancy. Yeah, it was nothing. It was our guys kick your guys's ass.

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That's it. Yeah, nothing.

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That's what we did. And that's why football is the. For me, mentally, the toughest sport. Because you know why, Ocho? You're asking the one man to move another man against his will. Now, I know Colorado didn't want to leave that break, that patch of grass, that, that, That A gap, that B gap, that C or contain. I know they didn't want to leave it. Georgia Tech said, you getting your ass up out of here. You getting up out of here.

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Yeah.

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And I'm like, bro. What? Livingston. I know. Hey, I. Look, you go back and you watch the film. There's a lot there. There's not. You didn't really do a whole lot good other than the fact, you know, when they got the lead, I mean, you. You came down, they get. Went and got 20. You matched them. But then they go right back down the field. Right back down the field and they ran the football. Ocho, do you know what it takes to take to go 75, 65, 70 yards? And I just run it. I paid it through one pass. Yeah, I think it threw one pass.

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Yeah. On. On the ground at that. On the ground is that. Hey, listen, you know, you know the difference. You know the difference. And what matters when it comes to wins and losses, what you got up there in your front, what you got in the trenches? You ain't gotta. You gotta listen, if you ain't got enough meat potatoes up there in your front, in. In your front yard, and you got them Boys ain't got enough rocks in the back pocket. You can get. You're gonna get moved around. You can get pushed around. You know, you understand that. And that's what you saw tonight. Week one. The same issues you had last year. And there's only one way to fix it. You got to get them big hogs up there. You got to. That's the only way to stop it. And then if you don't have the size, you got to have people that want it, people that got this, that want to come downhill. Well, you know what? You want to move me against my will? Well, let me show you. I'm not one of those that you just gonna.

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I ain't going.

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Hey, I ain't. I ain't going nowhere. I ain't going. I'm coming to the party. It don't matter what time I get there, but I'm gonna be there.

[C]

Corners. Ocho. Whatever happened to I'm not gonna let my outside arm get pinned? You never give up that leverage, right? Where the hell Leverage where it's contained. Don't know. I mean, I'm sure. It's hard for me to believe with the personnel that time has on that staff, right? They don't teach leverage. They don't teach contain. They don't teach gap responsibility, gap integrity. I refuse to believe that. And constantly, I see. I see dbs giving up the outside arm and. And the guy running down the sideline, constantly, I see off defensive lineman, I'm like, bro, that is your gap. How you let that man get you up out of there? That is your gap.

[A]

And. And the funny thing about it is, coaches can coach it and repeat it over and over and over and over as many times they want, but when the bullets is flying, you have one responsibility to take what you're taught and execute the X's and O's. That all comes down to want to. That all comes down to want to. At the end of the day, Ocho.

[C]

Here'S the thing. When you walking through something, yeah, it's easy. But if you want to find out what a man can do, put him to the test.

[A]

Ah, come on, now.

[C]

The test is window hut. When that ball moves, that's the test. See, I know what you. I know what you're doing when you walking through. Yeah, I know what you're doing. But if you want to know what a man can really do, put him to the test, put his ass under the gun, and let's see what he does. Because I've seen so many guys, and you have too. In practice, they look like Odell Beckham catching the ball. They running the ball. They. Hey, I'm like, well, damn. Look at how you break on the ball. Deion Sanders and then get in the game and he playing like Colonel Sanders. I'm like, oh, no. Hell no. Bad. Please. So, man, Chad, I'm sorry. Chad. I'm on one tonight, if you guys could tell. That Colorado game, they got me pissed off. I don't know. I'm to the highestivity. Is that a word?

[A]

Yeah. Hey, who they. Who they playing like Colonel who?

[C]

Yeah. I mean, in practice, they looking like Deion Sanders breaking on the ball. Now they get in the game, they're looking like Colonel Sanders fried Chicken. Oh, God. Hey, and I'm looking and I under Ocho. I understand.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Some of these guys, I mean. I mean, starting for the first time.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Bright lights.

[A]

Yeah. It's different.

[C]

That's. But that. That's what. That's what makes we who. Who make us who we are to being able to. To perform under. Under duress, under adversity. If or not and not forget that. I can't get my outside armpit. I got to. I got to right. I got to hold contained. I got to maintain my leverage. I've got to. I got to have sound gap responsibility.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And you can't throw that out the window because now all of a sudden they firing off the ball. That's the thing. You've got to be able to hold that.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And said I'm not. Look, maybe I'm using turn. But you watch the game. You saw what I saw. Hell, my old ass could have ran through some of them holes. Now. I wouldn't have got no 45 yards, but I'd have got a first down. I. It's. They've got. Look, it's the first game on Joe. And for me, I've always felt that I wanted at home, especially the first game.

[A]

Ocho, you want to win that?

[C]

I got. I got a whole. So I got a whole.

[A]

And listen, they had plenty of opportunity. They had opportunity when they got those two. Those that second and that third turnover. And dude and didn't do anything with the ball. I said it's going to be a long night. That should have set the tone for the game right there.

[C]

Should have put him down. Worst case scenario, Ocho put him down. 13 nothing. 17 nothing.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

At worst case, with three turnovers and that team's on the road. You're in your home. It can't be 7 nothing going into the Second quarter. It cannot be. It cannot be.

[A]

And it puts all the pressure back on Georgia Tech to have.

[C]

Go ahead. Go ahead.

[A]

Now, I was going to say it puts all the pressure back on Georgia Tech, where you won't have that comfortability of being able to run the ball.

[C]

All second half, all second half long, because guess what? Oo. I still got. I still. Hey, you didn't take me out. You didn't take me out of what I want to do because it's only 7 nothing. Now, maybe if it's 17 nothing. Maybe if it's 21 nothing. Thank you.

[A]

I gotta change.

[C]

But now, even with these turnovers, you allow me to still stay in my comfort zone.

[A]

Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Damn.

[C]

Hey, I don't know how to do it, Ocho, but most of the time, if somebody. If you don't make somebody get up out, if you got. If you rent an apartment, if you use somebody, landlord, right? And they go. And they go a month or two and they ain't paid you your money, there's a good chance they're not gonna pay you in week three. A month, four month, five month six.

[A]

So they squatting. They squatting.

[C]

Basically, I've got them. Okay, guess what? You come home, it locked. You're paying lock, or the locks changed, huh? And then I don't know why, I. I don't know what happened. I know what happened. You 13,000, you're 15,000 in the rears on rent. And I've got responsibility. I got. I got banks that want their mortgage on this, on this building. And you talk about, hey, man, that bank don't want to hear nothing about you lost your job. Right? Cause I can't. You know what? I'm gonna bring your money next month because, you know, a couple of my tenants lost their job. They're not trying to hear that, Ocho, at all. So in this situation right here, all Colorado did was yell across the field, hey, appreciate the three turnovers now. Kick our ass.

[A]

Yeah, that's it. You got.

[C]

You got three turnovers in the first quarter. Oh, yo.

[A]

Yeah, you got. You got to do something with that, huh? You got to. The second one, I say, okay, if they get another one, we got. We got. We got to. We got to find a way to get the game out of their hands.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Make it a little easier on the back end. But once they. After that second one and they went damn, damn near, damn near three and out, you know, damn near they did. Might as well have been. I said, you know, it's gonna be A long night.

[C]

Oh, I knew. I knew they wouldn't win in this game once they got them three turnovers in the first quarter and they only came away with seven points. And you allow Georgia Tech to stay with. Within the scheme of what they want to do. The first thing I want to do, if you are a running team, I want to get you out of that.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I don't want you to be able to run the football. I want to. What. What do you do? What is the second best thing that you do? I want you to play to that. I don't want you to play to your strength. Oh. I want you to play to your weakness. And if you beat me with your weakness, oo. I come to the center of the field. Congratulations. Good job. Hey, stay healthy. I'll see you down the road, Coach. But I'm not going to let you beat me when I know that's what you want to do.

[A]

Right.

[C]

But like I said, the D coordinator. I understand y' all put a lot of time in because you know what Georgia Tech does. Georgia Tech wants to run the football, but your gap integrity, your leverage, your contain was piss poor. Yeah. And that. That'll cause you to lose a lot of games. That'll cause you to lose a lot of game. We had this conversation last year when they played Kansas. We've had these conversations over the years when we're discussing Colorado about being able to stop the run. Now, one thing I will say. Oo, they look better in pass protection.

[A]

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[C]

That left tackle is going to go play at the next level. That Left tackle, number 77, he gonna go play at the next level.

[A]

Yeah, he go play.

[C]

He. Yeah, he gonna go play. He gonna. He gonna be playing on Sundays, but they got to do a better job. I don't care how good you are offensively, if you cannot stop the run, because they're just. I mean, think about it. They still have five more minutes of possession with three turnovers. Yeah. And a lot of turnovers look like two plays, one play, turnover, three plays, turnover.

[A]

You give him. You give him the ball back too fast. You're not doing nothing with it. Not doing. You're not doing nothing with it.

[C]

Man, I bet I was. Man, I was so frustrated because I'm like, bro, hold on.

[A]

You think you frustrated tonight? Wait till you. Wait. Wait till you see tomorrow's game. You might be frustrated again.

[C]

Who. Who play tomorrow?

[A]

Well, Texas, Ohio State. What you mean?

[C]

Oh, yeah. Look, I. I think the thing is, Ocho, when games, if you know somebody, I'M gonna be watching because I like Sark. I know Sark. He and I, we communicate. So, yes, I'm. I'm gonna be. I'm gonna be pulling for Sark. Oh, I'm sorry, Chad. Yes, I'm gonna be pulling for Sark because I like him. But, you know, when, you know, time you kind of vested, you know, you and I both have gone to see you watched them play. It's a great atmosphere. And this was a winnable game for Colorado, but they did everything they possibly could to help Georgia Tech steal it from them. Yeah, but Georgia Tech is stealing. They went on the road, they outplayed them. And coach says, look, we got. We. We give their defense credit because the defense bowed their back because they got the three. They only gave up seven points on those three turnovers. So that could have. They could have gotten. They could have gotten out of hand. Colorado took care of the football. They didn't turn it over. Not one time. They had less penalties. But when you, when you let a team go run for 3, 23, 20. I mean, first of all, 200 yards, a lot. We just started letting teams get 300, 400 yards running on you. Please. Yeah, please. But I'm sure Coach Prime. I don't know how they do it in college, Ocho. I mean, we played on, we played Saturday. We was off Sunday. Unless we play like horse and coach and make us put our uniforms on and go practice. Right, Go practice. And I was thinking about that, Ocho. You. Ocho, do you know, I mean, think about it, Ocho. If you played the game on Monday, I mean, Sunday, and coach and you was in Cincinnati, they said, ocho, put your pads on. We going to practice on a Monday.

[A]

I don't know about that. That ain't that. Hey, listen. Hey, grown folk now, grown folk, that ain't gonna work. We are not putting no pads on after playing a three hour game on a Sunday. That's not happening. I'm not sure who the team captains would be, but I can guarantee you they will not be in no pads after game day. Uncle, you already know how we feeling after this game day.

[C]

What? Yes, absolutely. No.

[A]

You know how long it take to get out of bed after a game, ma'?

[C]

Am? I do.

[A]

Put on some pads. Pass who shoe? Nah, ain't happening.

[C]

But they'll probably have tomorrow off. Come in Monday. Watch the tape. Get ready, because it's a fast turnaround. Ocho, you can't. You can't let this linger. That stench is there.

[A]

Not long. Not long.

[C]

It's just something about Luke. Look, it's been damn near 40 years since I was in college, Ocho, but there's something about. And I was never a big guy that went out after the game, but I can assure you, if we lost. Yeah. We're gonna see Shannon Sharp face on campus. Oh, hell no. You bet. First of all, you barely saw me after a win. Barely. I'm talking about maybe. I think I went to maybe one party in four years of college. I know. No, no. And we lose.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I'm like. I'm looking at the guys filing out, man. They hurrying back, Ocho, to sh. Especially if we home, right? They hurry up and shower and go to the parties. I'm like, you sorry, mofos. Y' all want people to see y'. All. Hey, I just lost.

[A]

But I. I tell you what, though. This is how I look at it. And I'm gonna be honest. You have to think my time during my tenure in Cincinnati, we had what, maybe one, maybe two winning seasons.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

My entire. When I was there. So I had no choice but handle my business week in and week out, whether we're winning or losing. Because I'm stepping outside. I'm stepping outside, and I can tell you I know exactly where I was at, because I had friends of mine that I met. Maine, Rico, all them boys down in Cincinnati as a group of five. We've been friends since 2001. I have no other outside friends outside of those I met on the first day I got. I got lost in Cincinnati, first day. Still friends of this day. Dude, we go to Andes after every game. We play at 1 o', clock, the game in at 3. We had jail examines at 6 o'. Clock. And then when 10 or whatever called roll around. Oh, I'm going out. I'm going out because I'm. I'm trying to enjoy myself, get some of the soreness out, walk around, you know, have a little fun, talk to some of the fans, you know, the dudes out, you know, out. Out the hood.

[C]

That.

[A]

That be out off a short vine and. And wherever they from, you know, just. Just talk football. I like that.

[C]

Right? Like that.

[A]

I was. I was more of a people person, you know, during that time and love to talk the game of football, whether we were losing or winning. And I would always show my face whether we were losing or winning. I mean, I enjoyed it.

[C]

I mean, one of the worst times I had, Ocho, I was in Baltimore, and we had made res. I had already made reservations at Ruth, Chris. I had brought Everybody in and we lost the game. If I had to have my mom and my sister and all them kids, I'd cancel. That wouldn't have went, hell, no. I would get takeout. I would get takeout. We lost the game, right? Hey, Sean, we going by such and such, say, nah, I'm going on home. I'm going home. Yeah, I'm. I. Hey, I'm a. I'm a sore loser. I'm a worse winner, right? But I. I don't. I didn't, I didn't. I don't. I don't. I don't want to be around nobody. I know how I am. I'm moody, I'm irritable. Because guess what? That's why y' all lost. Y' all out here party. You need to be home in your playbook. You need to be studying your play. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

Right, Right, Right, right, right.

[C]

Let me take my black ass home. So mo. And think about, man, what could I have done differently, right?

[A]

Hey, I. I was hanging with. With us. I was hanging with us. We have a game. We have a game of obviously play. One o'. Clock now, I swear for God, you would think I wasn't even a football player, for one. Not just a football player, but a star football player at that. Because if you miss me at the football game, before me and the fellas go eat dinner, I. You can just catch me on Short Vine. You can catch me down the way. I go see my little young bulls that enjoy the game of football. I sit there with them, talk about the game for a little bit, you know, chit chat. We on the corner. We on the corner in Cincinnati, just.

[C]

Chilling.

[A]

Talking football for about an hour or two. I sit there with them, smoke a cigar. After the game, boom. I go down to Jay Alexander's. My routine was the exact same for a decade straight. It never changed.

[C]

Well, I don't know if they still in existence, but I would go, I would call, I would get. Black Eyed Pea was the name of the restaurant. I would get the grilled chicken or the country fried steak. I would get colonel. I would get rice, I'll get colonel corn, and I would get black eyed peas. Get. I get a combination of like lemon, lemon tea, lemon raspberry tea or something. And I'm going home. That's it. I'm going home. I want. I want to be. I want to be miserable by myself. I don't want to see nobody. I want to talk about. I don't want nobody to tell me, you Played a good game because I played like dog. I don't care If I have 150. I played terrible. I didn't play good enough to win. And I don't. I don't want nobody to try to pat me on the back. You guys are going to get. No, we not, right? No. I don't know what's going to happen after I'm talking about this game. So I knew. I know how I am. I've always been like this. We lost the game in high school. Hey, shot. We got, man. I'm going home, Coach. Take me home. If we win, right? Your boy. Hey, your boy. I'm gonna walk the streets with y', all, right?

[A]

Right, right, right, right.

[C]

We lose. Yeah. You.

[A]

You say, you say you take it. I feel you.

[C]

Nah, nah. Cause I know because, Ocho, I've always been one of these guys that worked so hard for it. And I know what I put in. And the more you put into something, the more it hurt when it doesn't work out in your favor.

[A]

See, I like what you just said. You know what you put in. I. I understand what I put in. I understand the work I put in to make sure I. It's a team game, right?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

When it comes time to get paid, you get paid individually. Basically. I made sure I did my part. You definitely do things on now, if the other 10 don't do what they supposed to do. Now, I'm not. I'm not gonna punish myself. I'm punishing myself. Why I'm. Am I not going nowhere because y' all sorry. I'm gonna get out here. I'm gonna go get my J. Alexanders, I'm gonna talk to my homeboys, you know, and I'm go out. I'm gonna go to Annie's and I'm gonna enjoy myself. Now, I don't drink no alcohol, but, you know, I got my fellas with me. I got my fellas with me. I'm gonna make sure they have a good time. Man.

[C]

Oh. Hit Joe's house and so he ain't got no power. What Joe got buzzard. Look, he need to move.

[A]

Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. Over there. On a hundred million dollar property. A hundred million dollar property. 200, 273, 000 square feet and ain't got no power. With a goddamn generator. Joe. Joe with a generator. I know you got a generator out there, Joe.

[C]

Everybody should have one Atlanta, because I'm pop up. Storms gonna pop up and knock it out. Go knock your power out.

[A]

Hold on. Can Joe see us right now. Hey, Joe, can you see us? Hey, FaceTime.

[C]

He got no power.

[A]

Nah, he got a cell phone. Huh?

[C]

Internet.

[A]

You don't got. Oh, come on now. You don't. You. You need LTE or a G. G. 5. What you call it? What you call the provider?

[C]

Yeah, 5G.

[A]

Hey, yeah, I don't require nothing. Your phone should work. Joe, FaceTime me. Joe, if you can see this, FaceTime me.

[C]

Got no Internet. He can't FaceTime you.

[A]

Yes, you can. Huh?

[C]

No, you can't.

[A]

But the Internet in the house has nothing to do with your cell phone working man.

[C]

Look here, okay?

[A]

And he can FaceTime. I could just hold the phone up. He could still be part of the show.

[C]

Coach prime, who was recently diagnosed with bladder cancer and needs frequently use of the restroom no longer has to travel far. He has a portable toilet next to Colorado's bench to accommodate him following bladder reconstruction surgery and is sponsored being bad time out his mind.

[A]

Hey, hey, that.

[C]

That.

[A]

That depends. But I know they. I know they playing well for that, but see a lot.

[C]

Oh, yeah, for sure. Because a lot of people embarrassed of that. Ocho.

[A]

I wish I would. Why? You know how many zeros probably come. Come behind that right now?

[C]

Yeah, but I'm. But. But I'm saying a lot of people are back. Don't want people to know that they have to wear, you know, adults undergarment, but you gotta say like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

[A]

Listen, you gotta understand who prime is. You gotta. Yeah, prime is he ones. He's. He's one that could wear any and everything on his shoulders. Don't give a damn with none of y' all on the outside thing.

[C]

People wear them, but they. They don't want to advertise it. But like you said, you know. You know what I'm saying? Hey, yeah, hold on. They make them for a reason. Oh, yeah. Anytime they make something, somebody is purchasing it. So it's a lot of, you know, sometimes women, after they have kids, it takes a while for them for those muscles. Right. To get back strong again. Sometimes men, they have bladder cancer, they have prostate, they have issues. It's. It's hard. And some, you know, hey, my grandmother. My grandmother wouldn't wear them. She said, libby, I want my dignity. Yeah. So my grandmother wouldn't wear my. My grandmother wouldn't wear them. And you know, she. Obviously, she passed. I think Randy was 88. May. In May. She was 88. So she passed in July. Yeah.

[A]

Listen, I tell you what. It depends if you see this. Come on, holl. At your boy. Come on.

[C]

Ain't nothing wrong with you, huh? Hey, but sometimes I do be thinking about getting me a goose, man. I'd be tired of walking to the bathroom, man. I just need to get me a goose and go right inside the bed.

[A]

Hey, give me. Give me something where I can just roll over to the right or roll over to the left. I don't want to get up out of bed anyway because I keep. I keep. I keep upstairs. Oh, boy. By 60 degrees. Oh, 60 degrees. It's freezing up there. So when I got to get up in the middle of the night, sometimes I don't want to do that. I could always use some depends.

[C]

Hey, I. I'm gonna date myself here. And if you. If you my age, older, and you're from the south, you know what I'm talking about? Hey, I'm gonna get me a night pot or a slop jar. So you. If you're from the south, are you my age, older, you know. Exactly. They call them pea pots, they call them night pots. They call them slop jars.

[A]

Lop jar. I ain't never heard you Google it.

[C]

Okay, that's what. Every time I say something, I see it. Hey, you know that. What that mean? She immediately, anytime I say something. I can see the fake. But. Yeah, but I mean, look to where it depends. That's the least of. That's the least of the issues. Yeah, I was. I'm glad they caught this in time. I mean, think about it. Boy. Hey. God. Good God. Great. And what he instilled in man to take his bladder and reconstruct it and use a small man, please.

[A]

I like that man. I like that. Shoot.

[C]

If anybody look this man, that joke with time, his attitude about anything. Yes. He'll make anything positive. It could be the worst situation. He's one of the few people, no matter how bad a situation is, is you can make it positive. He can make light of a situation, make it pop a. And you. Hey, and the thing that, you know, a. Like when I did the interview, and I know a lot of you guys have seen the interview when I went up there and I started getting on everybody's toes. Yeah. He wouldn't have it any other way because he, like, you know, if it was on the.

[A]

If.

[C]

If it was you, you know, I get you. I'm like, absolutely.

[A]

I know.

[C]

Absolutely.

[A]

I know the joke's gonna flat.

[C]

Now.

[A]

That's. That's something that's gonna always happen. We. But we all. We all have that type of relationship, though.

[C]

Yes. Oh, you okay? That's why. Hey, you okay? You good, man? You know I'm good. Oh, you should have told me that. You should have said nah.

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Should have told me that. I gotta get you Ocho. The trade heard around the world. Last night the Dallas Cowboys did the unthinkable trading the four time Pro Bowler defensive rookie of the year, two time first team all pro Micah Parson to the Green Bay packers in exchange for two first round picks. And defensive tackle Kenny Clark. Packers handed Michael Parsons the largest, the largest contract for a non quarterback in NFL history. He got a hunt. Four years. 188 million. 120 fully guaranteed at signing.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And 136 total guarantee. 188 million total. Ocho.

[A]

Yeah. Just take your time too.

[C]

Now you. You want me to start it off?

[A]

Hey, well I can start it off because I listen, I'm not. You. You will probably get a little bit more in depth than I will, but I would just this chat, y' all stay with me real quick. This is. This is all ego. This is all ego and pride on Jerry's. On. On Jerry's hands.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

When he did the deal and he got in front of the camera, he did something as always, that he shouldn't have done. One of the first things he said is this was a good trade. And two, we need to be able to stop the run. Now you bringing in Kenny Clark and again, once again you put the pressure on Kenny Clark and your defense and the coaching staff to be able to stop the run because who you play week one on who they playing?

[C]

We go to Philly.

[A]

They going to Philly. And what does Philly do? Extremely well. Outside of throwing the ball.

[C]

Run the football.

[A]

Now you Done put your team in a blender doing the same thing you always doing is doing all that talking before it's even time to play. And you ain't been in that meeting room. You even been on Nanfield.

[C]

Oh.

[A]

Letting one of the greatest young superstars of all time go, and you feel your team has gotten better. How does that make.

[C]

That's. That's cliche talk, Ocho. Oh, we got better. Really? So if you felt that way, why were you trying to sign him? If you thought you could get better by trading Michael Parsons, why did you even offer him $200 million? Now, all this time, the last four. Four years, they were getting run on. I never heard Jerry say a word about running on. Right now, I don't know about y', all, but the thing is, you want guys to go hunt the quarterback because the Kansas City Chiefs stopped the run. What did the. What did the Eagles do? They got after my homeboy. Yeah. Because that's the guy. That's the head of the snake. Is your quarterback.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And Al Davis coined the snake. He said. He coined the phrase, the quarterback must go down, and he must go down hard. And it needs to happen early in the game and often. See, Jerry. See again, if you watch the documentary America's Team, the Gambler and the. And the. I think the Dallas Cowboys, it was his ego. That's what caused him in charity court. So now he doesn't. Well, we had a handshake deal. What?

[A]

Can't do that, man.

[C]

First of all, you cannot. If a player has representation, the owner or the. Nor the general manager can negotiate a deal with the player. You must talk to his agent. Jerry knows that Michael probably thought, I'm shaking hand. Ocho. Hey, man. Jerry. Good to see. Jerry said, well, you shook my hand. We got a deal. It's being reported that Michael said, okay, Jerry, call my agent.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Then, oh, we do the deal. We. I've done plenty of these deals. Well, you shouldn't have. The NFL should have punished you. The NFL? Pa. He told on himself. Oh, I've done plenty of these.

[A]

Well, we have to. You also have to understand the leverage that Jerry Jones has. Huh? If you got an owner like Jerry Jones that says some of the things that he says out loud that owners are not even supposed to say. Maybe. But you never actually regurgitated in front of a camera. Understand that the whole world is listening and watching, watching. So, you know, he don't care about that. Then we talk about the same owner that you told me about sued the NFL.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

He had the nerve and the gall and the cajones to sue the NFL and say I'm going to get everything. And, and if I'm not mistaken, basically won. He basically won.

[C]

He did. He changed it.

[A]

So what is the NFLPA gonna do?

[C]

What they gonna do?

[A]

There's nothing they can do because he doesn't care. He's in a position of power right now to be able to do what he wants because he just let the world know. I tried to handle contract negotiations without Micah Parsons representation. All he's doing is telling you to his eye, I mean to everybody face.

[C]

He says he's done plenty of these.

[A]

Yeah, two middle fingers up, which I'm going to do.

[C]

Well, why did you do that with Dak? Why did you not circumvent Todd France?

[A]

Hey, Dak don't play that. You know how, you know Dakota, you, you know, if, if you don't know that personally, you know, and, and Jerry don't see eye to eye and he doesn't have that friendly, that friendly banter relationship with, with Jerry Jones. Dak is one of the few players that actually kept it strictly business because.

[C]

I already played business. Michael was like that too. Mike and Jerry didn't have Michael. Micah did not have the same type of relationship that Jerry had with, with Michael Irving. Right. Or he had with some of the other players of that come along. Mike is like, I'm do. I'm here to do business. I'm gonna do my job to the best of my God given ability. But hey, it is a business and I want to keep it moving now me, and I'm just talking about me, guys. I think once, you know, Jerry started saying all this stuff, you know, we pay him who to say that we're gonna have him. Remember he missed all these games. He's still calling the man Michael Parsons and not Micah. Even, even Steven had to say Micah that, you know, basically Micah. I don't know if it was on purpose or not, but I'm just saying Ocho, I think as Micah, as Micah started to listen to what this man was saying, like this man don't. This man don't respect me at all. This man don't respect nothing about me at all. Jerry think. I mean you own the team, but you don't own me. And that's how. That's like Jerry thinking. Jerry's thinking if I pay you, I should. I should tell you coming. In the old days they had the mute. They say G and ha. You say get up your stop. That's how Jerry's mentality is.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Hey, I'm just, I, I'm not saying that he don't feel the same way about the other players, but I'm just saying his mentality is if I pay you, you do what I tell you to do.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Nah, bro, it ain't. It ain't like that. And as. And it is reported. I don't know. Jane Slater said that. Michael says, okay, let's get a deal. Jerry say, nah, you gonna play on the fifth year option or you can leave. Yeah, we'll make it happen.

[A]

Then you got, you got the right one.

[C]

Because I'm not playing. I'm not playing for 21 or 24. I'm not. So whatever you got to do, do what you got to do. Yeah, so. So what about. So I'm just trying to. All these years because the Cowboys weakness over the last since Micah's been there or before he got there was the inability to stop the run. Yeah, I remember. Cleveland Browns ran for 300 yards. Arizona Cardinals ran for 300. The Baltimore Ravens ran for 300. Pick a team that didn't run. Jerry ain't mentioned nothing. So if you just got better. Cause I remember when Jerry was there and chat, y' all correct me if I'm wrong all the time that he was telling you these teams remind him of those super bowl winning teams. He just traded a player that was on the team that he said had as much talent, if not more than those super bowl winning team. He just traded him and said he got better.

[A]

Listen, Kenny. Kenny Clark is good. Kenny Clark good, huh? He ain't no guy. He ain't no slouch. He's 30. But we talk about Michael Parsons, we talk about Michael Parsons, we talk about a generational talent.

[C]

I'm going in the draft looking for a Michael Parsons, a TJ Watt, a Miles Garrett. I'm trying to. Those are transform, transformational players. Yes, those are the guys that you're trying to get. I tell you what, tell me the run stopper. That's in, that's in the hall of Fame. They got a gold jacket even. We were just talking about Leonard Williams. He's talking about how Aaron Donald changed it where they won't. They want guys to get the D tackle to go get double digit sacks. That's different.

[A]

That's a different.

[C]

Because they throw the ball.

[A]

So.

[C]

But they. So much emphasis on the passing game. I need a guy that can attack the quarterback. Yeah, that's what Michael Parsons does. First of all, Jerry, you're not. You're gonna have to. Because here's the thing, Ojo, the way they're constructed, this team, right, The Dallas Cowboys. The office is supposed to get the lead. The team is supposed to be ahead. The other team can't run the football. They throw. Michael Parsons go hunt the quarterback. Yeah. What happens when Dak turns it over or they don't have this big lead? So now because you struck constructed a team that you lighten the britches. You can't hold up when they boom and they come and boom and they come and boom.

[A]

Right.

[C]

Like Marshawn said, over and over and over and over, you hit him in the face. That's what Jerry don't understand. So unless you go, unless you're gonna redesign your team.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Let me know how you know how to work out for you.

[A]

But again, I would say that the trade, the trade is, it's, it's not, it's not an even swap in any way based on skill and talent at the, at the positions. Kenny Clark is very good. Kenny Clark is very good, but he.

[C]

Had a down year. But he said he had a foot injury last year.

[A]

Yeah, but Michael Parsons is a generational talent. I don't care what people say they try to hate. I don't, I don't care what it may be. I mean, if your eyes, if you know the game of football, if you watch football, you know, even for me as being a receiver, I understand what he brings to the table. Regardless of what team he goes to, he's a difference maker completely. He wrecks havoc.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

I can't believe Jerry did that. I can't believe Jerry said some of the things he said for it to even get to this point because it.

[C]

Didn'T have to pay.

[A]

If you paid him last year ahead of time and, and tried to copycat with some of the other owners doing around the NFL to continue to build team winning teams, then you wouldn't have this issue. You would run into this problem. But your ego continues to get in your way. And it's been getting in your way the past 30 years.

[C]

Every time he talks, oh, Joe toe pops out because he got his whole foot in his mouth.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

So every time he talk, I see another toe. I said, there it is. Hey, but I will say this. Look it, look, when you, when you get drafted, somewhere there's something, there's. There's like a sense of loyalty that, you know, I want, you know what? I want to be a one Jersey guy. I want to be one helmet. I want to stay here for the rest of my career. And I do believe Micah would have preferred to stay there. Me. Okay, the packers gave him 47 million ocho. But to stay in Dallas, I took 44. Oh, yeah? Let me tell you why. Because what can I do with 44 that I got to have 47? Because see, and plus, now it's being reported that the podcast caused some problems. See, the podcast is only valuable when he's a cowboy. Ain't nobody want. Hey, they want to hear about the Cowboys. They want to hear about the boys. They want to hear about Jerry. They want to hear about Dak. I'm sorry. And this is not a shot at no other team. But there's a reason. There's a reason why.

[A]

Yeah, it's different. It's different.

[C]

It absolutely is. A percent.

[A]

Anything attached to that star, right, playing there, you want to take advantage of that window when you are there. Because it comes with so much.

[C]

Yeah, bro.

[A]

It comes with so much.

[C]

Troy media Romo media. Dandy Don Meredith Meter media. Michael Irvin media. What other. What other franchise can boast that now that the guys that call the color guy. Do you know the color guys, Troy? Two of the pro forma prominent spots occupied by Cowboys quarterback. Now, I know a lot of y' all don't remember when Dandy Don Meredith was on was on ABC with Howard Cosell. Yeah, he was a cowboy. Michael Irvin was a cowboy. Moose Johnson moves Cowboy.

[A]

Moose.

[C]

Hey, Swagu cowboy. Yeah, that's not an accident. That's not an accident. And plus, if you look, Michael Irvin ain't called a football. Michael Irvin make millions. Emmy make millions. And ain't none of them caught a football around a football in two decades. Yeah, Michael retired before me, and Emily retired a year after me, so.

[A]

And.

[C]

Jimmy. Jimmy. Jimmy just retired. Yeah. So think about that, Ocho. Yeah, that's not an accident. So the money that you were going to be able to make, now, look, it's all mute now. Mute. Moot. It's a moot point. Mute means you can't hear. Moot. Obsolete. Anyway, with that being said, it doesn't matter now, but I'm just saying if the opportunity would have presented itself.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Say. Okay, we got. We. Hey, we're not gonna give you 47 because this really reset the market. 44 would have reset the market. That's $3 million more than what my. Than what. What T.J. watt got. So. So that's an extra 12 million. They went 6. They went 24. So I don't have a problem it hurt him, Ocho. Because anytime they play a team trade you, right? They say, hey, we. We. Hey, we good without you. The thought of it.

[A]

Yeah, that's. That's. And I. I don't like. I don't like. It's what I. That's what I hate. I hate when. When players get traded, players that we know are really good, players that play for our team, and you know how good the player is. And when they get traded, then as.

[C]

A fan, fans start talking about, oh.

[A]

Yeah, he wasn't that good anyway. Like, yeah, come on now.

[C]

You never said that when he was there. You're only saying that now. Again, that's your team. That's their team, Ocho. And you look, it's team. Because guess what? Somebody else is going to wear that number 11 one day. All they see is the star on that helmet. Players come and go. They're interchangeable. They've had great players with the Cowboys all the way back when they came into existence in 1960, when they drafted Bob Lilly and they got Randy White and they got all these guys. They got a lot of. A lot of hall of Famers.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And so that's what they see. They see. It doesn't the name. Okay, yeah, we love Emmy. We love Troy. We love those guys. But guess what? We got new Cowboys now. We love them, too.

[A]

Well, hell, you just let a hall of. A future hall of Famer go.

[C]

And I know Michael wanted one of those blue coats that, you know, the ring of fame, but you saw Jimmy and you saw. You saw Emmett and all those guys wearing those blue coats. We have orange ones. You know somebody. I think the Dolphins got that teal color. If I'm not mistaken, the Patriots got the red. Got red coats. Yeah, that's not gonna happen now because, you know, think about how long it took him to put Jerry. Jimmy in.

[A]

Yeah, Mike.

[C]

I mean, and it probably. Look, he got enough money and. And the difference was, Ocho, is that Mike is 26. In three years, he can go back to the table and get another big deal.

[A]

Exactly.

[C]

Jerry wanted to do five years plus the op. Plus the. The fifth year option, which is six to make.

[A]

Not make sure he won't be able to come back and double dip.

[C]

Yep, yep. But, Ocho, we had this conversation. Chat. Now it was Green Bay, man. People, they need to stop making up stuff. Ocho and I, we tried to tell y', all, when these. When these stuff. This stuff keeps leaking out, it's coming from somewhere. I know y' all don't want to Believe that your favorite player or they could potentially trade your favorite player or release your favorite player. I know you don't want to believe that, but where you think this stuff come from, people? So if all the things someone could have said, why Green Michael Parsons to the packers was what they went with, of all the things they could have said, of all the teams, 32 teams, 53 players per team, plus somewhere between 13 and 16 practice squad guys of every storyline, they could have said, right? This is what they went with.

[A]

Hey, where there's smoke, there's fire. Where there is smoke, there's fire. You know? And the first thing people want to say, well, who's your source? Don't worry about the source. Whatever. Yeah, whatever you're hearing from somewhere, they know how to get out there. I don't know how to get it out there, but they get it out there.

[C]

This how they get it out there. Hey, man, I'mma tell you something. Hey, it ain't. You ain't here for me, you know, you. Hey, put your spin on it, okay? I'm just. I'm just telling how it is.

[A]

Oh, man, I love them.

[C]

I'm not an insider. I'm not. And I don't really try to break no news. I could. I could, but that ain't. That ain't. That ain't what I was when I was on cbs. That's not what they paid me for. Right. They had Charlie Cassie for that when I was on fox. That's what they had Jay Glazer for. I'm with espn. That's what they got Adam Shefter for. Ain't breaking nothing. Right? I'm gonna keep my relationship because I have to be very, very careful, because people got all over me when I said what I was saying about when Russ, man. Well, how you. I don't know.

[A]

Right.

[C]

He ain't in the locker room.

[A]

Right.

[C]

Okay, but I'm just saying. So I just say at that point in time, I said, you know what, Shannon? It ain't worth it. It ain't. It ain't. It ain't worth it to you. I don't know. I'm just gonna speak what this is. What you know, for me, if I was in the locker room, X, Y, and Z. Knowing, Knowing. But. But Ocho, you could tell the more and more Jerry talk.

[A]

Oh, he made it worse. He made it worse more.

[C]

The more he was, like, dug in.

[A]

He made it work.

[C]

Hey, you know what? He called Stephen a. He wanted to get. He wanted to get his point out there with Stephen a sitting down with Jerry. Jerry's like this first time. We got him under contract for three more years. Nobody was even. You and I had that discussion. I said, ocho, he got the fifth year option, and he got two franchise tags.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So theoretically, he could be a jerk about it and says, okay, play on the fifth year option. Franchise. Franchise. Okay, go ahead and go. But I didn't. Got seven years of service at you.

[A]

Well, listen, and Michael was going to be a jerk, too. You notice. You notice they say he. He was cleared for his back pains. Right. So you know what he did? Oh, y' all want to play games, so we gonna play the game. I'm gonna go get a second opinion, and I'm gonna make sure. The second opinion I get, make sure. Let y' all know that I can't play.

[C]

Right.

[A]

He was gonna play the game, so Jerry understood. Okay, you know what? He ain't playing. He not finna fold. He really finna play this game, so it's better.

[C]

Might as well get third opinion.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. So he's.

[C]

That second opinion sounded too much like the first opinion. So let me go get a third opinion. I need a descending. I need a descending vote, you know, three. You know, look, the Cowboys say they're a better team. I don't know how you trade your best defensive player. I believe he. He's the best. He was the best player.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Either side of the ball. I don't know how you trade him and get better. We'll see what they do with the draft compensation. You know, you could look at Houston and say when they traded Desean, they got better. They got C.J. stroud, they got Nico Collins, they got Anderson. So, you know. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? You could say, oh, they got better. They got all. They got some all pros over there. They got a franchise quarterback. You got a hell of a defensive lineman. You got a really young, great receiver. We did all right, Ocho.

[A]

Yeah, that's. Now that's getting better.

[C]

That's getting better. But I want to. I want to see what they do with the draft picks. But I don't know if. If you can't attack a team's quarterback. That's how they're built. Yeah, you were built. They got undersized offensive lineman, except Mozzie Smith, but that's his job. Hold on. So you put. So in other words, you put all the. Well, we didn't stop the run. Well, look at. Look at my bro. You sing so. You sing it so now because you guys got ran on. You put all that on Micah?

[A]

Yeah, also. Well, wait a minute. He said the problem is fixed now, though. He said the problem is fixed.

[B]

We got better.

[A]

We got Kenny Clark. Therefore, I feel we can stop the run now. So now you put the pressure on them boys, and them boys ain't even play yet, and they got to play the Eagles week one. So when things don't turn out how you said they are, as far as you guys getting better, stop the run. And you got Saquon Barkley running for 250 yards on you. Now you got another problem.

[C]

Where Jayla hurts, ordered Uber Eats back there talking about what they got. I like the Mugu Gal Pan. I like the General Joe's Chicken. I like the. Hey, y' all got. Y' all got egg rolls.

[A]

He'd be back there smoking a cigar, chilling.

[C]

Yeah, because Lane Johnson and my lotta ain't to be played with.

[A]

Ain't let. Ain't none nothing by. Nothing by. How about how we gotten better not realizing who you play? Week one, do you remember the defensive. Do you understand the offensive line? You're getting ready to one. Are you sure? Are you sure you've gotten better?

[C]

Hey, and you got the commanders, so we're gonna find out. I, I, you know, look, a lot of times, don't you, you know, hey, we. We all have it. We all have it. We make up our minds or something. I don't care. It might be the best thing for us, but sometimes we'll cut our nose off despite our face. I'm gonna show you. I'm gonna show you. You think I can't. You think I can't live without you? You think I can't be without you? I'm gonna show you. Sometimes we can't get out of our own way, Ocho.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And then when you realize the, The. The. The. The gravity of the mistake that you've made, it's too late. It's too late. We've all been there, Chad. We've all been there. We've all a. You know, I can. There's plenty of fish in the sea, but as my grandmother told my aunt, you might not catch them. And Jerry. Jerry Jones had plenty to say about the biggest reason for not signing Michael Parson, because the Cowboys needed to stop the run. He also said we can win more without Micah than when had we signed him. So if that's the case, why were you trying to sign him? Why was it such a big deal, this handshake deal? Why were you trying to get him to sign this contract. See, Ocho, if he had never offered Micah a contract, I could agree with everything that he said. Yes. Jerry also had a comeback. For a reporter asking how players can get a contract extension. Ocho, take a listen to what Jerry had to say about that.

[A]

Right, Jerry.

[B]

Micah at 12 plus sacks in each of the last four years, very productive for other players.

[A]

Cowboys players coming up the line.

[B]

They see how this negotiation with Michael went.

[A]

How would you answer their question?

[C]

Well, gee, what do I have to.

[B]

Do to get an extension if Micah can't get one?

[C]

Ask Dak.

[A]

Highest paid man in the NFL.

[C]

But guess what, Ocho. Yes, sir. Did you do this deal with Dak or did you work with Todd?

[A]

Friends work with Todd.

[C]

That's all I want to know. That's all I want to know. And then I'm gonna go ask Dakota, Jerry Jones, did you work with that. Did you have a handshake deal with Dak Prescott or did you work with his representation?

[A]

Representation. You know Dak don't play that.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

You know Dak don't play that. Absolutely not.

[C]

And first of all, they couldn't agree on the years. Yeah, they couldn't. They couldn't agree on the years. So that. That was. That was an issue to start with. That was the issue to start with.

[A]

The timing was perfect.

[C]

Green Bay gave him four years. Jerry wanted five. Because the more years you got, Ocho, you could spread the money out so you can kick the can. Michael say y' all kick the can for three years, then y' all have to come see me. Yeah, because guess what? The numbers are going to be so big, and they're not any more guaranteed money. It's the same thing with Miles Garrett. Remember, Miles Garrett said, I don't know if I can win here because he have no more guaranteed money on those final two years. So he's like, man, I don't know. You know, I don't know if the direction they said, well, $140 million is going into the right direction. That's the direction I'm headed, Ocho. I'm headed to the bank over my shoulder.

[A]

Mouth understood the business. He understood the business aspect, not having any money guaranteed left. Okay, I got. I gotta shake it up now. I gotta shake it up. I gotta shake it up now.

[C]

Yep. And he's the best player. He's gonna be. He's probably gonna be. I don't know where they are right now. They listen to top 100, but he's probably gonna be a top. He gonna be a top 10. Might even be top five.

[A]

Absolutely.

[C]

So he had, he had the leverage. You can't let Miles Garrett go. Although there have been a lot of teams. You know, I thought if Detroit, Detroit had to get him, Detroit would have had to mortgage everything. And I don't have a problem with that.

[A]

Right.

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