Nightcap Hour 1: Unc & Ocho react to Dillon Gabriel's SHADE at Shedeur Sanders

Summary

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Club Shay Shay – Nightcap Hour 1: Unc & Ocho React to Dillon Gabriel's Shade at Shedeur Sanders

Date: August 17, 2025
Host: Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Co-host: Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson (Ocho)

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Episode Overview

This lively “Nightcap Hour” features NFL legends Shannon Sharpe and Chad Johnson dissecting Dillon Gabriel’s now-infamous “entertainers and competitors” post-game comment, widely viewed as shade at Browns teammate Shedeur Sanders. The pair debate whether the implications were intentional, what it says about modern quarterback culture, and how media perception can swirl around even an ambiguous phrase. The hosts dive deep into quarterback competitions across the preseason, share personal and philosophical takes on sports and life, and sprinkle the conversation with their trademark chemistry and banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Dillon Gabriel’s Comment: Shade or Misunderstood?

[04:49–13:46]

• Background: Gabriel’s postgame remarks—“There are entertainers and there are competitors, and my job is to compete”—sparked speculation he was taking a shot at Shedeur Sanders, who’s known for charisma and on-field swagger.
• Shannon’s Take:
  • Convinced Gabriel aimed the “entertainer” jab at Sanders (and not media): “When have we ever thought about the media, those beat writers as entertainers? […] You can’t name the time you’ve ever heard someone say, ‘There are entertainers and there are competitors, and I’m here to compete.’ Tell me the time.” [07:35–07:52]
  • Points out historical context from Oregon’s coach framing Colorado as “trying to get clicks,” paralleling the current narrative.
  • “Everybody’s entertainer. That’s what football is. Everybody is entertainer.” [08:48]
• Chad’s Take:
  • Defends Gabriel, calling for grace: “I don’t think a college kid coming in as a rookie in the NFL would take that kind of shot at a teammate that he’s competing with for a job… I’m giving him a little grace.” [05:50–07:16]
  • Suggests Gabriel is inexperienced with media and likely misspoke: “He is not media savvy with the mic in front of him like a Tom Brady.” [09:41]
• Chat Poll:
  • Split, but majority think Gabriel was throwing shade (“88 said it was a shot, 12 said it was not.”) [18:32]

Notable Quotes:

• Shannon: “Sometimes when emotion is high, logic is low… I believe he took a shot at Shedeur.” [10:12, 11:19]
• Chad: “If there’s no address on it, it doesn’t have a destination. I’m not doing no riddles. This ain’t Dr. Seuss or Cat in the Hat.” [18:37]

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2. Quarterback Competitions & Culture

[13:47–15:43]

• Shedeur Sanders vs. Dillon Gabriel
  • Sharpe runs through both QBs’ statistics and career trajectories. Both hosts agree shedeur is likely QB1, given cleaner play and no turnovers.
  • Sharpe reiterates “entertainer versus competitor” is a false dichotomy, citing legends like Mayweather, Michael Jordan, Kobe, and Curry as both fierce competitors and showmen. [11:19]
• On Being Outspoken/Brash as a Quarterback
  • Discussion expands to how showmanship is perceived at the QB spot (“At that specific position, though, it’s frowned upon.”) [19:20]
  • Ocho draws parallels to Deion Sanders’ (“Prime Time”) ability to blend entertainment and competition.

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3. NFL Preseason Cuts & Roster Strategy

[25:58–31:13]

• Both hosts revisit history (Belichick’s 4-QB Patriots, Browns’ struggles to find a franchise QB).
• Chad and Shannon debate if Browns will carry more than three QBs; both agree it’s highly unlikely.
• Ownership vs. Coach:
  • Sharpe emphasizes owners ultimately decide key roster choices: “When I got my check, it always said the Denver Broncos football club. And that thing to the left, it said Pat D. Bow.” [29:36]

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4. Hardest Things to Do (Sports and Life)

[31:56–34:54]

• Ocho lightens the mood by ranking the three hardest things in life, tongue-in-cheek:
  1. NFL team finding a 10+ year franchise QB
  2. Hitting a 95-mph fastball
  3. Keeping a woman happy outside the honeymoon phase
• “The three hardest things in life to do…” [32:41]
• Marriage advice and jokes ensue, tapping both hosts’ humor and life perspective.

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5. QB Battles Across the League

[37:01–59:52]

Colts: Daniel Jones vs. Anthony Richardson Sr.

• Steichen says a decision is “very close.” Both hosts agree money talks—Jones’ $14M one-year deal signals he’ll start over Richardson, who hasn’t “figured it out yet.” [44:52–50:01]
• Ocho laments: “Anthony Richardson is supposed to be our new version of Cam Newton… after this year, he’s supposed to be going to the table for a $250–300 million deal.” [52:00]
• Sharpe: “He’s got all the measurables…but go back and watch the tape in Florida.” [53:12]

Giants: Russell Wilson, Jackson Dart, Jameis Winston

• Jackson Dart impresses in preseason; hosts discuss value of a veteran #3 (Winston) for locker room guidance.
• Sharpe: “It’s not like it used to be, Ocho, because the salaries are exploding so much…” [60:09]

Bears & Jets:

• Justin Fields struggles; lack of receiving help (Garrett Wilson as #1, Alan Lazard, Josh Reynolds).
• Fields’ “make or break” year as franchise guy. Ocho: “Justin Fields is finally getting his turn… you got to make the most of this opportunity.” [62:01]

Dolphins & AFC East QB Showdown

• Chad proclaims “Dolphins are coming out of the AFC East.”
• Shannon: “I think you drinking hunch punch… I’m taking Josh Allen over every other quarterback in that division.” [65:09–66:07]

AFC West & Quarterback Rankings

• Debate: Dak Prescott or Justin Herbert as the superior QB.
• Sharpe: “There ain’t nothing that kid can’t do. That kid got an arm… he is immensely arm talented.” [72:24]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Dillon Gabriel’s Intent:
  • Shannon: “Why did he have to throw the entertainer aspect in? Everybody’s entertainer. That’s what football is.” [08:48]
• On the Coach/Owner Dynamic:
  • Shannon: “You think Ryan Schottenheimer had control of the final 53 in Dallas? You think McCarthy got the circus? That’s a different circus.” [38:53]
• Life Lessons:
  • Ochocinco: “The three hardest things in life to do…” [32:41]
• On Team Building:
  • Shannon: “Ownership let them—let—stay out of their business.” [39:43]
• On Dolphins Chances:
  • Shannon: “I think you drinking hunch punch if you think they beating Buffalo.” [65:09]
• On Justin Herbert’s Talent:
  • Shannon: “There ain’t nothing that kid can’t do… he is immensely arm talented.” [72:24]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Intro & Dillon Gabriel’s Comments: 04:49–13:46
• Quarterback Competition (Browns context): 13:46–22:24
• NFL Roster Management/Ownership: 25:58–31:13
• Hardest Things in Sports/Life (Funny segment): 31:56–34:54
• Colts QB Battle: 44:10–54:46
• QB Roster Philosophy (Giants, Jets): 54:50–62:01
• AFC East Debate, Dolphins Prediction: 62:01–67:03
• AFC West, Dak vs. Herbert: 70:27–73:00

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Episode Summary

In an episode packed with sharp analysis, playful ribbing, and real insight into the cultural shifts of the NFL, Shannon Sharpe and Chad Johnson break down the nuances behind Dillon Gabriel’s “entertainer” controversy. Sharpe sees shade; Ochocinco urges grace for a young QB learning the league. As they hopscotch through quarterback battles across the NFL, the conversation touches on youth vs. veteran roles, ownership’s influence on personnel, the importance (and pitfalls) of personality at quarterback, and what it takes to build a championship team—or a lasting marriage.

This episode is a must-listen for fans of football culture, sports media drama, team-building intrigue, and the unique brotherhood of two NFL greats who aren’t afraid to disagree or drop some hard truths—with a joke never far behind.

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Transcript

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[Chad Johnson]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

All right, go ahead.

[Chad Johnson]

I don't. I don't. Hey, Chad. I don't. I don't want to do him like that. I want to give Dylan Gabriel a little grace, a little understanding, because I don't think a. A college kid coming in as a rookie in the NFL would take that kind of shot at a teammate that he's competing with for a job. I. I just don't see. I. I don't see it. I see it as. As him when he says entertainers in that aspect, where he said it's the media. I'm not sure how he views the medias as the entertainers, but the way the media stirs the pot and creates the ruckus and all he does is compete. I see. I see it from that sense. I. I don't see him as. I'm not even sure if he's that type of person, that type of. Type of individual even had that kind of savvy to say something like that publicly as brash in that moment. So I'm gonna give him a little grace. I think Dylan Gabriel actually played well. He played well. You know what he did those. Those first few. Drive, driving, driving the team down the field. He made some really good throws. He was poised in the pocket. He had commanded the offense, obviously, the. The pick six for one. He has to see that there are two people. Somebody ran the wrong route. Two people in the same place never happens. There always has to be spacing on all concepts when it comes to running routes. So as a quarterback, you have to see that. All right? There are two players in the. In the. In the wrong place. Don't make a bad play even worse by even throwing the ball. You should just chuck that out of bounds because you're already outside the pocket anyway. New down so that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That.

[Chad Johnson]

I think he's gonna be fine getting those reps in. And it's all about making plays at the quarterback position. But how consistent can you bleed? And so when some. Sometimes there's a chance you can make something out of nothing, and then sometimes you can't. And I thought. I thought he played okay. He played really well.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I disagree with you. I think he was taking a shot at Chicago. When have we ever thought about the media, those beat riders as entertainers? We've heard his coach. He was on the team when he.

[Chad Johnson]

Said, you can't tie him and his coach together as if they have the same mind as they're. As if they're one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can't name the time you've ever heard someone say there are entertainers and there are competitors, and I'm here to compete. Tell me the time.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay, listen. Let's say if. Let's say he's taking a shot at Shador, right? At what point has he been entertainer? He's a. He's a football player as well.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But we've heard people say that's what he's more interested in doing.

[Chad Johnson]

What? I'm just curious. I'm. Wait, we.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What? Okay, tell me what you're curious about.

[Chad Johnson]

He's more interested in entertaining Shador as a quarterback.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, I'm not saying he is. I'm saying that's what people have said about Shador.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

About entertaining. About the antics.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay, I see. I see where you're going. I see where you're going.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Plus, we've heard this before, and sometimes it seeps. It seeps out when you've been around people and they perceive other people as. That if you're not careful, you'll repeat.

[Chad Johnson]

What you heard someone say about something wrong with it. Okay, okay, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He didn't have to say that. He did all he says. Look, I'm here to compete. Whatever happens, happened. It doesn't matter if I'm first team, second team, third team, or fourth team. My job is to compete. Why did he have to throw the entertainer aspect in? Everybody's entertainer. That's what football is. Everybody is entertainers.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, you're right. You're right. It's an entertainment sport. It's entertainment. He might have been taking a shot at me. No, I. I know, but he can't compete with you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He can't compete with You. I disagree, Chad. I don't know what you guys think, but I think he. I. I think he was trying to take a solo shot. Because if he wasn't, why are you trying to clear it up? Why are you trying to clear it up?

[Chad Johnson]

Because obviously, once. Once you say something like that, it ruffles all the feathers and then it comes back to you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why you ruffling feathers, Ocho? It ain't nothing you told. You telling me in the chat.

[Chad Johnson]

His choice of words. His choice of words, it ruffled feathers because that's probably not what he actually meant. I. I honestly think was an honest mistake because he's not. Let me stay with me real quick. Let me say something for. Let me say something real quick. He is not media savvy with the mic in front of him like a Tom Brady. He's not media savvy like a quarterback. Absolutely not.

[Shannon Sharpe]

A quarterback at the University of Oregon.

[Chad Johnson]

No, no. He just not. Because if he was, he wouldn't have said what he said. There's a. There's a way you go about doing things, and he hasn't learned it yet. He's not savvy like that yet.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Sometimes you. Sometimes you get caught up in the moment. You play well. It's the middle of the game, Ocho. You got to realize now you're right there in that moment. Sometimes when emotion is high, logic is low, and you feeling good is, hey, I a. They're entertainers, and I'm a companion and competitors, and I'm here to compete. Oh, he's like, oh, if he. If it meant nothing by that, nobody would have. Nobody would have said anything about it. Nobody would have thought. Would not even have thought, would not even battle the knife. But they took it. Most people took it. I believe the way he intended it, right, that he's not. He's not fancy, he's not entertaining. He's a competitor. I don't know what he thinks Shadow is there to do. I believe two things, they're not mutually exclusive. Floyd Mayweather was an entertainer, but he was a competitor. Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, they're entertainers, but they're competitors. Steph Curry, all that dancing and turning around. He's shooting shot, and he only look at it before it goes in. That's entertainment. But he's a damn fierce competitor.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So to try to make those two things mutually exclusive is just not true. I believe you can do both of them, but I believe he took it. Me, I could be wrong, and if I'm wrong, I Apologize. But I believe he took a sort of shot at Shador. I do.

[Chad Johnson]

And honestly, you want. You want me to tell you the truth? And I mean, respectively. I don't even think he has the balls to be able to say something like that out the blue. That's how. That's how I know. I mean, he doesn't. He doesn't carry himself like that, especially coming out of college. If he was that type of player, if he showed that kind of like, if it was. Think about this. Think about Johnny Misdell in college, right? Think about Mayfield in college, right Now. If it was one of them that says something like that, I'd be like, yeah, he's definitely taking a shot at your door. But he's never shown any signs of being as Brad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When he's ever been in competition. When has he ever been in competition? He wasn't gonna beat Justin Herbert out, so he wasn't in competition. When is the. When was the last time Dylan Gabriel was in a quarterback competition? Yeah, go ahead, sip your tea. Coffee, whatever that is. Yeah, go ahead and sip that. So, but now. Now back to our originally scheduled programming. We. When was the last time Dylan Gabriel was in a quarterback competition?

[Chad Johnson]

I. I don't even.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Exactly. Right, because think about it. How many yards has he passed for? Do you know how many. Do you know how long you got to be in college to pass for the amount of yards that he passed for? Justin Herbert's been in the league how long? Because didn't he take off with Justin Herbert in 2020? So Dylan Gabriel has been in the league. Been. He's been the starting quarterback since, what, 21? No, he came from Oklahoma. Didn't Gabriel come from Oklahoma? He transferred from Oklahoma. So he's been.

[Chad Johnson]

He.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he was.

[Chad Johnson]

If he transferred from Oklahoma. Are you telling me he ran from competition?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, he ran to the money.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, okay. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

One, two. Oh. So he started ucf. Oh, he started at UCF for three years. He was two years in Oklahoma, and then he spent one year at. At. At Oregon.

[Chad Johnson]

Ah, okay. Okay, okay, okay, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's. Okay. That's Bo Nicks. That was Bo Nicks. I apologize. That was Bo Nicks. That was there when the coach. Remember when they played CU Ocho and the quarterback. Some. He's. What did he say? Instagram. Some of them trying to get followers. They tried to get clicks and followers, and we're trying to win football games.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, that's right. That was the Oregon coach. I remember that. I remember that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That was the Oregon coach. But Dylan, I apologize, that wasn't Dylan Gabriel. That was b Knicks. That was his quarterback at the time when he said that.

[Chad Johnson]

See. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you gotta. But again for me, when was the last time Dylan. Dylan Gabriel was in a quarterback competition? He was three years. He was three years at UCL. He was two years at Oklahoma and one year at what you saw. So six years. So in six years of college football. Yeah, three years of UCF, two years of Oklahoma, one year. Man, them guys be getting seven and eight years old. You see the guy 32. What a Kobe year. Okay, so it gave everybody an extra year if you wanted it.

[Chad Johnson]

But listen, obviously what the chat, what.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The chat said, the chat. Believe he took a shot.

[Chad Johnson]

Look at the chat. I ain't open my phone. Hold on. I'm curious to see what the chat would say, what the chat would think they are saying.

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[Chad Johnson]

The chat is saying. I believe he throwing shade. I thought football was a brotherhood. I never seen them do that. Need it. He lost in job. Oh, he lost his job at ou. He got hurt at you. Oh, shoot. Well, I. But it looked like. It looked like it's like a mix. It's a mix on how everybody feel. Go ahead. You want something, Go ahead.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We. We put the. Replacing the poll up. I just think the thing. It was on. Look, and I think the thing is, because Ocho, what it is, is normally we don't get this. We don't normally normally be interviewing, especially if you're playing during the course.

[Chad Johnson]

Different now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Normally, they get you. They get, you know, half, you know, in the preseason game, if you're not playing, they'll get you. Hey, can we get a few words? Yeah, it's exciting, you know, got some work in. Knocked some of the. Knock some of the dust to rust off. And now it's time for the younger guys and other guys to get an opportunity to show what they can do. I'm sure the coaches are excited about that. Hopefully everybody came out injury free. We'll see after the game, so forth and so on. But, hell, everybody out there to compete. I mean, you do realize, like, in pro sports, it's all about. Hey, it's all about competition. Whether you competing in your locker room or you competing against the other locker room, but you always in competition.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, listen, every. Every week. Every week?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, every day.

[Chad Johnson]

You know, I think he understands that. That's why I said I'm giving him grace. And obviously, I think you giving him too much credit. You giving him too much credit. For those of the people that think he was actually taking it, taking a shot at Shador, I think we've given him too much credit to think he would come out and do something like that publicly or to even slip up or even, you know, I. I just don't. I just don't think that's him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh. Oh. 88 said it was a shot, 12 said it was not.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, maybe y' all see it different. Maybe y' all see it different because I wouldn't paint it like that, honestly. You know, I mean. I mean, if you're gonna say something, you know, if. If there. If there's no address on. Don't have no destination. If there's no address on it, it doesn't have a Destination. So I'm not, I'm not doing no riddles. This ain't, you know, Dr. Seuss or Cat in the Hat. If you really.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How about this here coming out. How many front office people you think said exactly what Dylan Gabriel said? He's more into entertainment and doing all this and all those antics. They're competing.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay, listen, I'm picking. Hey, listen, I'm picking up what you're putting down now. Now you make, now you're making a little sense to me. I'm picking up what you're putting down. I, I, I, I, I don't like that because. I don't like that because that's a part of the game. It's always been a part of the game. It's never been a part of the game. At that specific position, though. At that position is frowned upon.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They know.

[Chad Johnson]

Always. Because when you pick that position and you pay him the kind of money you pay him, not only you represent the shield, you represent the team and the organization as well. You are the face of a franchise decade more. Yes, So I understand right now. Okay, I'm with you now. I'm with you. I'm with you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You look at his dad. He was the ultimate entertainer, but was one of the most, one of the fiercest competitors. He believed that, you know what? Prime time, that's what you paid to see. You paid me to see all the antics that, you know, hey, get it up. You know, he dancing before they punt him or kick the ball to him. He got the ball up behind. He got his hand behind his head. I gotta entertain y'. All. It ain't, it ain't. It ain't good enough for me to just get a peek. It ain't good enough. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's not enough. You can get. Anybody can do that. I want to be outgoing. I want to be braggadocious.

[Chad Johnson]

Thank you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I want you to know who and what.

[Chad Johnson]

That sounds familiar. Hey, that sounds familiar, don't it?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. The stats. Week one. Shadow was 14 to 23, 157, two touchdowns. Dylan Gabriel was 13 of 18. 144 with, oh, total yards. Total yards. Okay. 157 total yards. 144 for Gabriel Shador had two touchdowns, no turnovers, and Dylan Gabriel had no touchdowns and two turnovers. He had a pick and a fumble. Look, I, I thought he, I thought he played like you said. Uh, I thought he played a good game with the exception of the turnover. That, that bad interception but, but do you know the thing I noticed the first thing I say, I say, damn, he tiny.

[Chad Johnson]

He's small. You think he.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I like. Oh, my God.

[Chad Johnson]

Maybe Baker height?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. Hell no. He wish he man bad, huh? They list him at five, eleven, five, ten and a quarter.

[Chad Johnson]

Bryce Young is. Yeah, yeah. About the same. So obviously, the fansky and the way that they would run a completely different offense if they had Dylan Gabriel starting as opposed to Shador.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. You got to roll him out because he's small. You need to put him outside so he can see. He can. He can see clean pockets.

[Chad Johnson]

Pocket. You got to roll the pocket, or boom. Have him in the goddamn gun all the time. One. One or the other. But if Baker. If Baker Mayfield could be successful doing it, obviously, of the weaponry around him, I mean, shoot, he should be. He should be able to succeed as well.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. A Baker man. I don't. I don't think people give Baker enough credit. Baker is a really good thrower of the football. You don't win the Heisman Trophy like he did get that team to the College Football Playoff, and, and, and, and, and, and now, now that he's in a system and now he's with coaches that allows him to be Baker. He's been to Pro Bowls. He's, He's, He. Baker is a better throw of the football than, than, than. Than I think we give him credit for or we gave him credit for, especially now that he's in a system and, and he's with coaches that believe in him and will allow him to be himself. We'll see. Look, Dylan Gabriel did throw 4 ton of yards. I will not take that away from him over 16,000 yards. I mean, hell, he played six years, so he. I mean, damn. I'm like, you. Oh, you're like, damn. Six years.

[Chad Johnson]

I know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So how old is he? If he play six years, he got to be like 24.

[Chad Johnson]

That was possible.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. Oh, yeah. No, they got. He's 24. Ocho. I was, I was 21. I turned 22 after I got drafted. So he already. I mean, so, hell, he. Bryce Young age. He might be older than Bryce. Yeah, he might.

[Chad Johnson]

He.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Bryce Young age. It's got to be Bryce Young's age.

[Chad Johnson]

Damn. Hey, hey, that's. That's funny. That's. That's funny. Like, I, I, I'm. I'm baffled. I'm appalled.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You bet. Hold on. Let me, Let me see what? You're baffled. Are you baffled that he played six years and he's 24 or you baffle. That the chat believes along with that I believe that he was taking. She was throwing shade or taking a shot. All of the above or some of the above.

[Chad Johnson]

Because honestly, I think y', all, y'. All, Y' all giving a dog it. Y' all giving somebody too much credit. You give them too much credit. Too much credit to say I'm gonna be brash enough to sit here and talk about someone that is on my team and take a shot not. And then. No, that's giving him too much credit. As if he's a mastermind and I'm media savvy and knowing how to navigate.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, that's the point. He didn't think about it. He didn't think clearly enough. Sometimes we have to be careful of what we say around others. Because guess what? We get on here or we get on TV and then something that we talking about in the barbershop or we're talking about, it'll come out. Because sometimes you forget where you are.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, I think. Listen, young, Young bull played. He played. He played well outside interception for six. And the fumble, in which it wasn't his fault on the fumble. Because the guy. I'm looking at the replay, I'm trying to figure why the running back ain't got his goddamn. Man, open your arm. What is you doing? And he looking, he looking straight ahead instead of, you know, like, come on, man, tighten up, man. But outside of that, listen, hey, who they play next week?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who do Browns play? It's the last game.

[Chad Johnson]

You ain't got to tell me twice. I heard, I heard you before you even.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And they normally play on. They're probably gonna play on Thursday, right? They play Saturday, play Saturday against the Rams.

[Chad Johnson]

Listen, all hands on deck. All hands on deck. I'm not sure what they're gonna do. I'm not sure what they're gonna do. I'm excited. I'm excited because I love. I love a healthy competition. I love a healthy competition.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I, I, I don't believe they're keeping all these quarterbacks. I don't know, Joe.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, hey, listen, they're, They're. I mean, the Saints. Never mind. I ain't gonna do that. I ain't gonna. I ain't gonna be rude. I'm not gonna be rude. I'm not gonna be rude.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do you believe they're gonna keep all these quarterbacks?

[Chad Johnson]

Honestly, I'll be honest with you. You played the game a very long time. I played the game a very long time. I can't remember a scenario where there were four quarterbacks on the team. I can remember every scenario. There was always three. Always three. So if there was an odd man out to me thinking it would be, you think if there was going to be one. And that's simply maybe because of the injury right now and not being able to showcase, not being able to showcase much, you know, and no disrespect to Kenny, you know, you had opportunity at Pittsburgh, obviously in Philly, there's no, there's no way you're going to start in front of Jalen. Hurts. But I mean, why would they, why would they not keep it? Yes, baby. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I agree. I, I think wait till the food.

[Chad Johnson]

Comes for your food, your chicken nuggets. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Four quarterbacks. New England kept four quarterbacks in 2000, but it's a different time now. Coach Belichick said he was worried that if he released Tom, somebody would sign.

[Chad Johnson]

It, and that's exactly what would have happened.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you gotta say, and you would have to sign him to the actor. You. They would sign him to the active roster. So he didn't want to run that risk. So they felt they, they stashed four quarterbacks. But I agree with you and, and, and, and, and, and this situation, the way it's coming, currently constructed, I don't see a scenario where you keep four active quarterbacks now. You might have two quarterbacks and one of the practice squad guy, and then you say, for the sake of argument, somebody get nicked, you might bring him up, you might elevate him. But to have four active quarterbacks, and that means you're going to probably have to go without a wide receiver or a swing offensive lineman or rotational defensive lineman or, or cornerback. And one of those. And those guys are guys that can play special teams. Those are the guys that can play the punt, punt, return, kick, kick return. Your quarterback's not doing that. And so basically, if you keep that many positions, he can only. He's only playing one position where the other guys that I mentioned, other positions can play two positions. So because normally you're a guy that can play the guard, he can play the tackle, he can, if need be, he can play the D tackle, he could play the dn, but he could also be on field goal, field goal block, things of that nature.

[Chad Johnson]

We talk about. We don't know who they gonna take. Hell, let's play goddamn Devil's advocate then. Let's play Devil's advocate. Hasm already said what he got to say. Andrew Barry knows that he's a genius in being able to get Shador in the fifth round, you Stefansky, who you want?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Whoever has them won't.

[Chad Johnson]

Damn you for real?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Wait, as a, as, as, as a coach, as a head coach, you're going to choose just because of whatever personal vendetta has or may have to say some of the things he said? You're gonna put your job on the line for somebody you know isn't better than the person that he doesn't want.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If that man said. Let me ask you a question. When you got your did you ever get, did you ever get a physical copy of your check or was your money always directed?

[Chad Johnson]

But I got the, I went upstairs and always got the physical.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I tell you what, when you went to OTAs and you got those with those deposited. Because last I checked, when I got my check, it always say the Denver Broncos football club. And that thing to the left, it said pat D. Bow.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That thing said the Cleveland Browns football club. Jimmy. Probably Jimmy and D. Haslam. Now you want to ask me that again? Which one do I want?

[Chad Johnson]

I got.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, I got you.

[Chad Johnson]

You know what?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Chad Johnson]

The fact that I sat here and forgot the person that said what he said in the position of power that they were in, my bad. You right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

But again, maybe that's the problem, you know. Can I ask you a question? With my lack of knowledge and knowing, Mr. Hasn't like that. How long has he been.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He brought it from the Learner. I think he brought it from. He's been there probably, what, 15 years? Ash. I think he's on the Browns for about 15 years. He's only for a minute.

[Chad Johnson]

So he's been there 15 years at least. Later, they're still looking for a what qb, but we supposed to take it. Okay. Don't worry about it. You're right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thirteen years. So he's been there since 2012 from the Learner family, Right.

[Chad Johnson]

Are we supposed to take his word?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, well. Oh, Joe. I mean, in the limited Snickets series, A series of unfortunate events happened. You know, they thought they had the quarterback. I went to the movie with Jim Carrey. My, My poo. By my daughter. She's, she's read it. She read the whole series. That's what she got for Christmas one year. They thought they had their quarterback. But it was A series of unfortunate events that, you know, shoulder Achilles and things of that nature. But it's not easy. It's not easy finding a quarterback. It actually, it might be the hardest thing to do in professional sports.

[Chad Johnson]

It is. I, I, I think. You know, what can I. Can I say something real quick? I'll say something real quick. I'mma give you the three hardest things in life to do. Hey, Chat, y' all write this down, too. Chat. I'mma give y' all two seconds to grab a pen. The three hardest things in life to do. Number one is the NFL team. Find a quarterback that can be a franchise quarterback for 10 years or more. Okay, that's one. Number two, trying to hit a baseball coming at you 95 miles an hour on a consistent basis. That's. That's two. Three.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Chad Johnson]

Try keeping a woman happy long term. Outside. Outside of the honeymoon phase.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I knew. You go see that last one.

[Chad Johnson]

Three hardest things to do in life. Now you got some. You got some. Some couples, you know, they be 15. Oh, we've been doing this 15, 17 years. Yeah. Yeah. Pretending you ain't fooling me. You smile. Behind closed doors, you're arguing. I can't stand you. Don't get me started. Listen, I sat next to a married couple today. They've been married 32 years. So I. I was nosy. I don't mean you had to ask.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Him how y' all been together that long.

[Chad Johnson]

I. I had to be nosy. I say, well, out of the 32 years you've been married, how many of those years have y' all been happy? You want to know how many years of those. How many of those years she's been happy or they've been happy together?

[Shannon Sharpe]

How many?

[Chad Johnson]

The first three.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't think any couple can say they've been happy. Their days, they're. If, If. If a couple tell you they've been married 10 years, 15 years, 20 years that they've been happy all the year. No, their days, not. There are more days that I'm happy, but then I'm sad or disappointed.

[Chad Johnson]

I think, see, they. They got in depth. I just don't have that kind of time because I don't want to switch topics to be on football. I was just using that analogy and just. Just bringing. Bringing in context to it and couple. And he said, the husband said to me and the wife, they. They were. They. They were in agreeance and I was enjoying. It was like I was their therapist and I said. They said the honeymoon phase lasted for three years in the marriage. And after that, we're just. We have just been. I forgot the word she used. She used the word when. When you just. God, I forgot words she used.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Working. Cohabitating.

[Chad Johnson]

That's the word. We're just cohabitating. And I don't want to start over, and I refuse to deal with anyone else. So we. We. And it's lasted 32. I'm like, well, God. Well, God damn. Well, congratulations to y'. All. But can I tell you what I got from that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What?

[Chad Johnson]

I don't care because I'm getting married anyway.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think the thing is, Ocho, and you see this a lot. I mean, you see a lot of couples do this. The kids get out. The kids get out of high school. The kids graduate college. What they do, they split. They go to school. There's. Because sometimes. Because sometimes they look at it like, well, we ain't really got anything else to be together for now. The kids grown.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, you think people stay together? You think people stay together when they know?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, for sure. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yes. Yes. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

What? Hey, you. You're not talking. Not our people. You talking about the other side.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Sometimes stay together. But I'm saying, yes, people stay together for kids. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Sometimes. Sometimes it's e. Sometimes it's easier to stay together because, you know, you can pull your money together. It's going to be much harder apart. You see this a lot in. In the professional settings. What. What women will tolerate in a professional setting when the money.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Hey, listen. Come on. The. The longer the money that. No, no, no. Wait, wait. Hey, baby, what you doing? Hold on. I'm plugging up for you. Hold on. She didn't unplug my termin. Lights off. The longer. The longer the money, the longer the leash. It's always been that way. And if. And if. And if you. Depending on how serious it is, the longer. The longer you with you. And if you happen to marry him and then they're. Oh, no, no, you good. What you crying for? Oh, my goodness. No, you're good. You're good. I'm. I'mma plug it up. The longer you with them and they ready to leave. As long as they taking something with them, they're taking something with them. They're not leaving without it. Not without that lifestyle. Yeah, I mean, you know, haggle. The game is the game. It's always been the game. You got to learn how to play it, man. That's all. Come on. You want to charge him?

[Shannon Sharpe]

So, Shador, week one, 1423. He had 157 total yards, two touchdowns, zero interceptions. Dylan Gabriel Reek two 13 of 18, 144 total yards, 0 for 2, 0 touchdowns, 2 turnover, pick 6, and a fumble that was credited to him.

[Chad Johnson]

So.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And after the game, Stefanski would like. He refused to like, you know, I'm not doing this evaluation well, who played this or who did better than that. We'll go back, we'll look at the film and we'll do our proper evaluation and we'll, you know, it'll be interesting to see chat when they hit the field on Monday or Tuesday when they back at a regular practice. What is the. Scott, what is the. The sequence? 1, 2, 3, 4. Who. What's the slot? Where are they slotted? Where the quarterback slotted? Maybe that tells us something, maybe that tells us nothing. We don't know who starts week three. How much playing time do they get? Does he get in week three? It would be. It's going to be very, very interesting to see their eval, their valuation from week one to week two. I'm sure there are some things both guys did extremely, really well, some things they would like to have back. I'm sure the coaches, you know, give them a rundown of what they would like to have seen them do, what they'd like to see them do better. But overall, I think both guys played extremely well and, and should feel proud of the performance.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited to see what happens. I wouldn't want to be, I wouldn't want to be Brown's personnel. I wouldn't want to be Stefanski because, listen, depending on who they pick and who they choose, the backlash that they're going to get is going to be crazy. It's going. It's going to be crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm not, I'm not sure if Stefanski has any control over the final 15.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, honestly, if he. How is the head coach not going to have control over who he's going to put out there on the field? And he's the one got to coach him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Easy. You think, you think, you think Ryan Schottenheimer had control of the fight at 53 in Dallas? You think McCarthy got the circus?

[Chad Johnson]

That's a different circus. Are we, are we trying to win? Are we trying to win? There's a difference.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You have to like, come in with. You have to be Andy Reed to get Mike Tomlin. You, you got to put some year. Unless you're like highly sought after now.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, Sean, Kyle Shanahan, you're naming all the coaches. They're allowed to pick the players they want because they're successful. Do you know why they're successful because of the players that they have.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They're successful because ownership let them let stay out of their business.

[Chad Johnson]

I got go, go that's a fool. That's your food.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jim Harbaugh, right?

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, yeah, he's another one. They, they're, they're consistent winners no matter where they are.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And he came so sought after. So you have to give up something besides money in order to entice him to leave the University of Michigan. Ben Johnson came highly touted. He was offensive coordinator for the, the Lions, the Bears. You got to give him something to get him to leave besides money. And so it's gonna be very, very interesting to see how this thing shapes up for the Cleveland Browns. But I don't believe Chad, I don't believe there's no way all four of these quarterbacks are on the roster, the active roster. Opening day we could find out a little bit more because there might be a situation where Kenny Pickett doesn't even take a snap in the regular season.

[Chad Johnson]

And.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It'S going to be interesting. It that's all I can say because I like I said it been interesting to see if all these quarterbacks were healthy. Excuse me, if Shador starts. If Picket was healthy, would Picket have started? We, we don't know and we won't ever know because guess what? The games are over with and who started is who started. But I don't believe opening day, all four of these quarterbacks are on the active roster.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Void where prohibited by law 21 plus terms and conditions apply. Ocho Anthony Richardson senior saw his most extensive preseason action yet after sustaining a dislocated finger in Week 1 against the Ravens. Richardson completed 6 of 11 passes for 73 yards, but his numbers were undermined by penalties. He started 5 or 6 for 64 yards, leading a 90 yard touchdown drive with crisp passes. Offensive penalties derailed the next two possessions in the kit, including negating a 38 yard completion. Daniel Jones started the game, started the game and led a field go Drive, completing 7 of 11 for 101 yards. Colts head coach Shane Steichen strongly suggested after the game that a decision is imminent. Imminent in his team's month long quarterback battle. I've seen obviously three weeks of it. So I like to have a decision here shortly. I'm very close, I'll say that. I'm very, very close. Ocho, who's week one starter, I mean.

[Chad Johnson]

Honestly, the way it's looking, you know, it's Daniel Jones. Daniel Jones. I think, even if, even if Anthony Richardson finger hadn't gotten hurt, I think that's what they want to go with all along anyway. I think there have been issues there with him the first two years. Obviously they haven't seen the improvement necessary especially with year three always being the make or break year and I'm assuming so especially with the way that the coach is talking. I don't like it. Then you signed Daniel Jones. One year, 14 million. That much, one year. They definitely, they definitely were going in the other direction regards to what Anthony Richard had would have done in camp or what he would have done in the game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Chad Johnson]

Like how much better are you going to be from the first two years coming into the third, there's only so much work. I mean it's not going to be a miracle. You, you look a certain way year one, you look a certain way year two and then all of a sudden year three, you're gonna come back and just be oh my goodness.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. But that's what they were expecting. They were expected. They respect. They were expecting a monumental jump because Ocho, you in your third Year in the system.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay, understandable, understandable.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And he got hit in the face with a blitz that he should have got hit in the place with as a rookie, not as a third year vet.

[Chad Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And so look, like I said, Ocho, we're not there. Chad, if I was there, if I was there and observe in practice, I'd be able to tell you who I think should be the starting quarterback. But unfortunately, all the thing I can do is based on what we've seen thus far. And look, and I don't think it's like, it's a situation where, like, oh, this is. Oh, this is etched in stone. I don't think it's one of those situations, but I think it's a situation where, you know, like you said, at some point in time, you're gonna have to give one of these guys the majority of the reps. Ocho, you can't keep splitting 50.

[Chad Johnson]

50. You already know where they're going. You know the game they playing. You knew the game they were playing when they brought Daniel Jones in for that. For that amount of money. For that amount of money on a one year deal. I already knew the game they were playing. What, baby? Okay. Okay. I'm gonna call papa for you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you got Daniel Jones. It's interesting, Chad. Y' all think it's gonna be Daniel Jones? Do y' all think it's gonna be Anthony Richardson, senior? It's not like either one of the guys just blowing you away.

[Chad Johnson]

I mean, where you. You. You up. You upstairs? Yeah, yeah. She's. She's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm just. Come. Come to 1417. 14, 1417. All right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Want to see?

[Chad Johnson]

All right. Papa coming to get you because you're not letting daddy work. Daddy working. You want. You want to move?

[Shannon Sharpe]

She said I don't get to see daddy that much to begin with, so I don't care about you working now. That's what I think about you working. Who did. Oh, here it is.

[Chad Johnson]

How about coming? Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They played. They played the. They played the packers today. Hey, you. You.

[Chad Johnson]

Were you. Were you able to watch all the games?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, they need. They need to. They need to put the games on one channel.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, first of all. First of all, oo, you know, it's the preseason, so basically you're going to get only the. Only the. You'll be able to watch the local game. So. But I guess, you know, they. They got it. They're gonna have it fixed where you'll be able to, once you play, pay all that money gonna cost you about $2,000 to watch all the games.

[Chad Johnson]

That much?

[Shannon Sharpe]

And, you know. Yeah, you got to get every streaming service.

[Chad Johnson]

My. Everything is. No, everything is on one service now, right? Or am I tripping? I thought that was the whole point.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You tripping. You Tripp.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, man, I'm excited, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So Daniel. Daniel Jones started the game, huh? Or the.

[Chad Johnson]

Or.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Or at the. Richardson started the game.

[Chad Johnson]

I think Daniel Jones did start. Hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

One was seven of 11 for 100, 101 yards. And the. Richards was six of 11 for 73 yards. I think that's. Riley Leonard was seven to 12 for 64 yards. Dave Jones started. He started. Okay. He started game two. Anthony Richardson started game one. Okay.

[Chad Johnson]

So they. They went back and forth to make sure each person got the opportunity. And.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And he says. Yeah, I think he says, I've. I've seen, obviously, three weeks of it, so I like to have a decision here shortly. And I'm very close. I'll say that. I'm very close. I think he's seen enough.

[Chad Johnson]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think he's. I think he has his mind made up that who he. Who he wants to start. I. I'm leaning towards. You see, why bring a guy. Why bring a guy in to make $14 million into having to be the backup?

[Chad Johnson]

I totally. Totally.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, it's not like Daniel Jones had his pick of choices where he go. I mean, not for that kind of money.

[Chad Johnson]

Absolutely not. But that. That lets you know how in dire need of a quarterback that the Colts were. You saw, you saw, you. You saw what you saw. You saw what you saw in New York and say, you know what? We gonna bring you in to compete, because we don't think our quarterback going into year three has figured it out just yet. But, hell, you didn't figure it out when you was in. In New York, but we think you're gonna come here and all of a sudden something's supposed to change. So two wrongs don't make it right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Two folds, I think they really want. Because if they bring a quarterback in for a million, let's just say for the sake of argument, oh, they bring a backup in and they gonna pay him $4 million. You're not gonna take that serious, man, I ain't going on no bench for no guy making 14 for 4 million. You bring a guy in making 14.

[Chad Johnson]

14 now, you know they serious sitting on the bench. I can tell you that. 14 is not sitting on a bench. They talk about quarterback controversy. They talk about quarterback battle. There is no quarterback battle. If the Quarterback coming from another team makes that kind of money on a one year deal.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He probably making more than Anthony Richardson this year. What's Anthony Richardson basically only in his third year.

[Chad Johnson]

UNC is not that much.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, because he got a, his contract is fully guaranteed, but he got probably the most of his money on the signing bonus. So he probably got $25 million in the signing bonus. Ocho. So Anthony Richards is probably making what, $8 million this year, right? 4 million. He make it 3.8.

[Chad Johnson]

You know what?

[Shannon Sharpe]

So one guy making 3.8 million, the other guy making 14 million. Do you think they're gonna put the guy that's on, that's making 14 million on the men?

[Chad Johnson]

You know what? You know what I don't like though?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold on. Is his money guaranteed? Did they guarantee his money? No. Jones. Yo. You know, after Richardson got 34 million guarantees, his money guaranteed he gonna get, he got 22 million aside, so he gonna get that final 12.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm mad because Anthony, Anthony Richardson is supposed to be like, Josh, let me get this out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Go ahead.

[Chad Johnson]

Anthony Richard is supposed to be like Josh Allen. Anthony Richardson is supposed to be like our new version of Cam Newton. Like that's the kind of potential in, in, in, in. Like I don't, I don't know at what point what went wrong or what's happened. If he's not focused, if he's not locked in. After this year, after this year, Anthony Richardson is supposed to be going to the table for one of those 250, 300 million dollar deals.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, I agree.

[Chad Johnson]

That is what I saw in him coming out of Florida. Based on the eye test and what I'm looking at, all the intangibles, does everything right except the mistakes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I was shocked. I was shocked that he moved up the draft boards. I like, but see, Ocho, go back and watch the tape, right? You see, you see what happened now? You see how some people watch tape and then somebody go by the combine. If you look at his. If you didn't know anything about him and all you did was watch the combine. You understand? Now go back and watch this tape in Florida.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, well, yeah, you, you did tell me that. You did tell me that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Go back, go back, go back and watch his.

[Chad Johnson]

Tell me that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But if every, but those measurables were so hard to pass up though. OO 64, 245, running 44, can throw the ball 80 yards.

[Chad Johnson]

Which is what, which is what I said with the measurable. You take the measurables, right? The reason that they Went up to go grab in the draft and if the measurables put up with the play on the field after this year three season, they coming to see you. You f. To tear the house down. You. You going to tear the house down.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's how.

[Chad Johnson]

That's how I'm visualizing it. And I can't. But I can't believe I don't know at what point. And if. If you don't get it here, if you get beat out my brother Daniel Jones.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Then a day. A day like that, like in what I'm visualizing if I was Anthony Richardson. It's not happening. It's not happening.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Yeah. They would never. They're not bringing Daniel Jones in because I'm gonna do. You do everything. You do what you're supposed to do. You. You're not the. You're not the last in. In the first out. So that's it. That's it. That's in a bad message there, Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

I don't know, man. You think maybe his focus is somewhere else and not.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Just don't start me like I don't know enough about it. I don't know enough about it.

[Chad Johnson]

I like young bull, man. I like young boy. I hope things work out for him over there, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got to get it together, man. You got to have the coaches to trust you. You got to have the player, your teammates to respect you.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, bring. Bring Daddy the phone. Hurry.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, bring it. Pick it up. Bring. Hello? Hello. Yes. Yes, please.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Giants rookie first round draft pick Jackson Dart through two preseason games. Game one against the Bills. 12 of 19, 154, one touchdown. Today against the Jets. 14 of 16, 137, one passing touchdown, one rushing touchdowns, zero interceptions. Head coach Brian Dayball asked if Jackson Dart could take starting job for Russell Wilson. Russell Russ is our starting quarterback. We're going to keep developing Jackson. I do see a scenario. Jackson Dart starts the season as the number two quarterback.

[Chad Johnson]

Absolutely. And. And Jameson number three. Because I don't think there is a number four. The fact that they're keeping all three of them is a really good thing because Jackson Dart has two.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You think they keep all four? You think they keep all three of them?

[Chad Johnson]

Absolutely. You think the Giants letting James go? Absolutely not. James is. Is. Is. Is a good veteran even if he's not on the field. Good locker room presence. A good locker room presence. Don't fall. Yeah, great locker room.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How much. How much. How much money does James have guaranteed?

[Chad Johnson]

Wait, get her her iPad in her. In her shoes. No, that's my charger, Papa. That's my charger. Okay, Yeah, I got her charger. Come on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't need to put him on 2 year 9 million, right? 2 million.

[Chad Johnson]

Give your daddy kiss. Come here. Give me kiss so I can finish. You keep interrupting. Now you're good. Say bye. Say bye. Bye. Love you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Bye bye.

[Chad Johnson]

I love you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Love you too.

[Chad Johnson]

All right. Okay. Now. Now we go. Now we can talk. We can talk. You can talk. We can go. No more interruptions. What. What. What happened?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm trying to, like, I mean, looking at it. Russ is the starter. You develop it. You develop it. You're developing Jackson Dart. Last week he started number three. This week he starts number two.

[Chad Johnson]

I. I wouldn't look into that. You're looking. You look too much into it. You're looking too much into it. I think the ball. They have their mind made up that they're going to allow him to develop and allow him to sit back. Michael Vick, when he played, he sat back. I think rookies not being thrown to the wolves, some are good at it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no. I know. Russ is the starter. No, no, no, no, no. I'm trying. I'm looking at the sit. I'm looking at the situation with Jam not going nowhere.

[Chad Johnson]

He not going nowhere. Damn. They're going to keep. They're going to keep three quarterbacks. Jackson Dart will more so obviously be developing and he would be the practice squad quarterback. I don't, I don't think they throwing young bull out there to the wolves like that as a rookie.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm not saying he's not starting. Russ. Starting Russ is going to be the day one starter, but if Russ is the day one starter and then you have a rookie as the backup, do you really keep the veteran as the third guy?

[Chad Johnson]

Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what I'm. That's what I'm asking.

[Chad Johnson]

Absolutely. Because the, the third guy that you're keeping is more valuable than just being on the goddamn. Excuse me. Than just being on the field. He adds more value outside of just being on the field as a starting quarterback. You. You don't. You don't let a locker room presence like that go. You just don't. You just.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They do it all the time.

[Chad Johnson]

There's only one James Winston.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I know. And they let him go in New Orleans when he's more than that. They let him go in Cleveland when it was more than that.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. So wait, wait.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's not like it used to be oo because the salaries are exploding so much and you used to be able to keep a veteran guy because the numbers were low.

[Chad Johnson]

The numbers were low. They were favorable. They. They were favorable.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. Yeah. Okay. Yes.

[Chad Johnson]

I got you. I got you. You're right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But it's gonna be. It's gonna be very interesting, but I've been very, very impressed with Jackson dark through the first two two weeks. Justin Fields and the passing offense were out of sync today. Fields completed his first throw, then finished with five straight incompletions in two series. Fields went.03 when targeting wide out Garrett Wilson, his old buddy from Ohio State. The lack of a legit wide receiver number two to compliment Wilson is one of the reasons why they're not clicking. I don't know why they didn't go get another receiver. Ojo.

[Chad Johnson]

Wait, who's the number two in New York?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Alan Lazard. Is he hurt?

[Chad Johnson]

Chad, who's the number two in New York? Wait. Matter of fact, you got Breece hall and first name. God, was Alan first name. Maybe Derrick, Henry.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Braylon, Josh Reynolds and Alan Lazard.

[Chad Johnson]

Josh Reynolds. Josh Reynolds. Josh Reynolds.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You remember Josh Reynolds, used to play with the Rams. He was.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. I mean. I mean, I like it, but you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Know what, Ocho, when you that dog and they gave you 30 million. Damn. What's on the other side? Go get open.

[Chad Johnson]

Mm.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They play you 30 million when you the number one, you get.

[Chad Johnson]

No, no, not that kind of money. No, you're number one for a reason.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nope.

[Chad Johnson]

You're number one because two, three, and four can't do what you can do. Right? I don't think that. I don't. I don't think was getting open the issue. It wasn't the issue. It just. The passes might have been.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I saw two routes. He ran a stop route. Guy was right there. I think he ran another route. The guy was. You know, See, that's why I don't.

[Chad Johnson]

Like them damn joint practices, stuff like that. You done seen it all. You seen it all week. You know what's coming for Mason? Recognition. Knowing the count, knowing where I'm lining up. Understand? I'm a split. And you know what's coming, so you're gonna sit there and cheat. I don't. I don't like that. I don't like that. Because Garrett Wilson is a route runner. I don't know if you paid attention. Attention to him. He's a route. He's a route runner. So, I mean, I think they're gonna be all right. It's a. A little too soon. The panic you know, whatever. Justin Fields is finally getting his turn turn. He doesn't have to look over his shoulder. This is your team. This is your team. You have a head coach that is going to do right by you. You got. You got to make the most of this opportunity. And I mean it's preseason. You want to get all your mistakes out right now. So the game you today.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson]

You don't want. You can't repeat these. You can't. You got to fix it now because he's in year. What this is year four.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Justin Fields to two years, three years, four.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. This is. This is your make it. This is your make it A break of year two.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Zach Wilson put together a solid starting Dolphin second preseason game. He completed 15 to 23 passes, 151 yards and a touchdown. He missed a couple of would be touchdowns. Deep throw pass deep past the Eskridge that was on the throne. Rookie Quinn Ewers improved his. Improved on his debut, completing 11 of 16 with a pair of touchdown to fellow Rookie Theo Weiss Jr. Hey, wait, wait.

[Chad Johnson]

Who did you say had had a great debut? What's the name again? The first name you said.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah. 151.

[Chad Johnson]

Zach Wilson. That's my. That's my dog. That's. That's my dog. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You do realize if the. If he plays for the Dolphins, y' all probably. Y' all are not going to the playoffs, right?

[Chad Johnson]

We'll be there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Chad Johnson]

We'll be there. But again, Zach Wilson looked good today. He did. Quinn errors. Based on how he looked last week, yours. He looked better this week.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, he did. Absolutely. Yes. You want to see improvement.

[Chad Johnson]

Exactly. So I like it. I think Dolphins they coming out the AFC East. What you think about that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think you drinking hunch punch. If you think. If you think. If you think they beating Buffalo. That's what I think about that. I think you also and your face.

[Chad Johnson]

What else funny.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what I think. I think you owes.

[Chad Johnson]

Hold on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you're not.

[Chad Johnson]

Wait a minute. I. I don't like. I don't. I don't like the way you. You sound. Whereas if you're trying to say the Dolphins don't have any chance in the AFC East.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look, they play football. Anything can happen. You ain't gonna put no money that the Dolphins gonna. Gonna be the. The AFC east representative gonna win that division.

[Chad Johnson]

So. So you telling me you've already given Buffalo the division already and we don't know what's gonna happen? Are you just saying that because they have take the.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Take the Team with the best quarterback.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay. All right. I like where you're going.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm taking T with the best quarterback. I'm taking Josh Allen over every other quarterback in that division.

[Chad Johnson]

Over Drake May?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

You sure? Okay. I just want to see what you're gonna say, okay? Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Sure am.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay. So when Drake May and goddamn Stefan Diggs look like Mark. Dan Marino and Mark Duper and Clayton, then what you gonna say?

[Shannon Sharpe]

They still got to do something with Josh Allen.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, all right, but tell somebody, okay? Josh Allen is him. I wish. I tell you what you trying.

[Chad Johnson]

Hold on. Are you trying to say my quarterback is not him? You trying to say two is not him?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Can't stay healthy, can't play in the cold.

[Chad Johnson]

I don't. I don't. I don't like your attitude. I don't like your tone.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They gotta do it be.

[Chad Johnson]

I don't. But the funny thing, the fact that you have no confidence in us. I mean that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, confidence. I mean, y' all gonna play the game, but I ain't putting no money. I wouldn't put no money on. On y' all to win the division. I would not. Y' all probably got great odds, too.

[Chad Johnson]

You wouldn't put money on the. On the Dolphins. The Dolphins. We had. We. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We had what?

[Chad Johnson]

Okay, all right, listen. I can't. I can't wait. I can't wait till football season. I can't wait till football season because we're gonna have some nice little side bets. I'm gonna pay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Just like you did last time. I'm gonna make them small aston. Genti had seven carries for 33 yards today. Ocho, his 13 yard run was part of an eight play, 41 yard score and drive that ended. Ended with him powering his way into the end zone for a one yard touchdown. After the game, Genti said, I've arrived and it's time to keep going and make plays for this team. I don't know if I've ever heard somebody say I've arrived in the preseason, but I'm gonna take his word for it. He ran with a thorough today. I like the run he had punished. The defender, lowered his shoulder. He can run. I mean, he run with power. I mean, he's not. He's not an overly big guy. I mean, what's he, 5, 8, 5 9? But he's powerfully built. You look at the way he's built from waist down, you can tell he's a power. He's, he's a power runner.

[Chad Johnson]

But listen, hey, I Saw. I saw one of the clips. Well, somebody. Somebody caught him. I saw the one we ran dude over, but on the left side. Yeah, somebody caught him good. Oh, yeah. I don't know if that was a safety coming downhill. I don't know who it was, but.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You a. You. But. Well, you might want to get word to him. You got to pick and choose your battles.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, he's not gonna be able.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You're not gonna run through. You're not gonna run through people like you did in Boise State.

[Chad Johnson]

He. It's the preseason. He doesn't, he doesn't understand yet. You're gonna learn real quick. Where's some grown men out there, boy?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, so. But I thought, you know, look like Gino. Gino had great command of the offense. Gino is very, very familiar with Pete Carroll.

[Chad Johnson]

That's a good thing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Pete went and got him. So it's going to be interesting to see how the Raiders do. Look, that, that division is good.

[Chad Johnson]

Very.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got Mahomes in that division. They won the division. Probably, like, what, the last eight years? They probably won the division every year since, what, 2016, is it?

[Chad Johnson]

2018? I thought it was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. You got to realize because they had Alex Smith, they won the division. They won the division every year. Patrick Mahomes has been the starting quarterback, and he started in 2019, 2018. He got drafted in 17.

[Chad Johnson]

The last time the Broncos wanted to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Won the division, they won. They won the, the Super Bowl.

[Chad Johnson]

That was okay. That was the last. So since then, since 2016, the Chiefs have been winning the A. Yeah, but.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got Mahomes, you got Herbert, you got Bo Nicks and Gino. That's, that's a look that might be the second best division in football. As far as quarterbacks. I think the afc, I think the AFC north, hello, NFC East.

[Chad Johnson]

What are we talking about?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, let's see. Hold on. Who's the nsc? Yeah, I think for me, it's clear that it's the afc. It's the AFC north with, you know, you got two of the top four quarterbacks in one division. Okay, Rogers and it. Yeah. Even with Cleveland. We ain't giving Cleveland nothing with those two, those two top four guys and Rogers and then, you know, okay, I, I, I can see that. I can see that. The NFC east with Russ, Jane Daniels, Jalen Hurts, Dak. But Mahomes, Justin Herbert, Bo Nicks, there ain't no slouching.

[Chad Johnson]

I like, I like both, too, man. I got a lot. Really, really like both. I like ball.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So if, if somebody said if some, if someone said I would take the as the AFC west quarterbacks, I wouldn't fight them because you got Mahomes been to five Super Bowls. You got Justin Herbert, you got a Bo Nix who's who's up and coming now Hertz is, Hertz is one of the super bowl he's been into Russ has been the 21 1. But Dak, where we, where we, where we putting Dak? You take Dak or you take Justin Herbert?

[Chad Johnson]

That's a good one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, that's a chat. Who y' all like? You take Dak or you take Justin Herbert?

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, I mean half the chat going to say they going to say Justin Herbert because they just don't like the damn Cowboys.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I think I, I, I both of there ain't nothing that kid can't do. That kid got an arm. He is immensely arm talented. Yeah, he's, he's more athletic than you think and he can flat out throw.

[Chad Johnson]

I told you I'm looking at the chat.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What is it?

[Chad Johnson]

Goddamn. A whole bunch of herpes going back and forth and I see a DAC every so often. I knew they were gonna do that.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Ah, come on. Why is this taking so long? This thing is ancient.

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[Chad Johnson]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

This thing moves.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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