Nightcap Hour 1: Unc & Ocho react to Eagles BEATING Cowboys: Jalen Carter EJECTED for spitting on Dak, CeeDee Lamb DROPS 4 balls?!

Summary

Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 1: Unc & Ocho React to Eagles Beating Cowboys (September 5, 2025)

Episode Overview

In this lively postgame episode, NFL legends Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to the Philadelphia Eagles' dramatic 24-20 win over the Dallas Cowboys in the season opener. They break down the controversial ejection of Eagles star Jalen Carter for spitting on Dak Prescott, analyze key plays—especially Ceedee Lamb's surprising four drops for Dallas—and debate the strengths and weaknesses of both teams. Their chemistry brings humor, player perspective, and expert X-and-O analysis, offering an unfiltered, engaging debrief on one of the NFL’s marquee rivalries.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Game Flow and Impactful Moments

• First Half Fireworks: Both offenses moved the ball effortlessly, creating an entertaining, high-scoring chess match ("The first half was very, very entertaining. It was really, really good football. Neither defense could get off the field." — Shannon, 07:44).
• Weather Delay’s Effect: A lightning delay in the third quarter dramatically changed the game’s tempo and rhythm. Both hosts noted that the second half lost its earlier excitement and offensive flow (18:37–19:18).
• Eagles' Resilience: Jalen Hurts led with two rushing TDs, and the Eagles’ offense adapted to the defensive adjustments, especially after halftime.

2. Ceedee Lamb’s Drops — Dallas’ Missed Opportunities

• Critical Drops: Sharpe and Johnson tally up Ceedee Lamb’s dropped passes, emphasizing two would-be game-changers—including a crucial fourth-down miss late ("That’s a long handoff ... CD said, nah, I don’t want it." — Shannon, 08:30).
  • Johnson counts three, but acknowledges a viewer pointed out four, two of which nearly resulted in interceptions (09:09–10:09).
  • Both stress that as Dallas’ #1 receiver, Lamb is expected to make those catches in high-leverage moments. “You’re what we consider a top-five receiver—those are the kind of catches that you make. ... That’s the reason you make that kind of money” — Shannon (09:33).
• Player Perspective:
  • Johnson reflects: “When your teammates start looking at you—well, ain’t you supposed to be him?” (34:13).
  • Sharpe shares personal experience: “I had a game just like that ... one of the worst feelings ever.” (33:58).

3. Callouts: Running Back Chase Down & Defensive Flaws

• Zack Baun Chases Miles Sanders (12:00–14:12):
  • Johnson questions how a linebacker (Zack Baun) ran down RB Miles Sanders. Both hosts joke about gear (“That monkey jumped on your back ... that last 110, you got to come up out of there.” — Shannon, 14:09), and discuss the difference between “football speed” and forty times (23:32).
  • Baun’s hustle is praised as a difference-making, self-starting effort to stop a TD (“Sometimes we get that on a team ... football is the ultimate team game.” — Shannon, 17:59).
• Dallas’ Defensive Questions:
  • Without Micah Parsons, Dallas struggled to generate pressure, especially laterally against Jalen Hurts’ running and scramble drill (19:18–20:06).
  • The Eagles’ O-line strength made life easier for Hurts, while the absence of defensive discipline allowed both his rushing TDs.

4. Eagles' Offensive Concerns & Play Calling

• Slow Start for A.J. Brown: Both are flabbergasted that Brown, a paid elite receiver, didn’t get a target until nearly halftime (“I tweeted ... can we get A.J. Brown involved, please?” — Shannon, 16:31).
  • Johnson: “There’s no need for AJ to have to be reading that book called Silence on the Sideline again.” (16:31)
  • They discuss the importance of keeping star receivers involved, noting a simple hitch or screen can get a player acclimated (17:28).
• New Playcaller Jitters: Sharpe raises concern about Philly’s new playcaller, a first-timer, needing experience to unlock this offense's full potential (15:47, 63:51–65:00).

5. Jalen Carter’s Ejection for Spitting on Dak Prescott

• The Incident (38:20–44:36):
  • Carter is ejected before the first snap for spitting on Dak following a heated exchange. Debate centers on intent, respect, and discipline:
    • Shannon: “That’s the worst thing you can do ... Spitting is off limits. That’s some s—... I’m surprised Dak was able to restrain himself.” (38:49)
    • Ochocinco wonders what he’d have done if targeted: “I’m gonna get thrown out the game!” (40:08)
  • Both make it clear the act is indefensible regardless of provocation. Carter is likely to face league discipline and miss at least one game.
  • Sharpe: “You’re in the conversation with Chris Jones, Jeffrey Simmons. Like, you are him. You too good of a player to do that.” (41:31)
  • Discussion of “spitting” as an ultimate sign of disrespect and a line that should never be crossed—especially contextualizing it as Black men and referencing civil rights history. (43:30–44:36)
• Aftermath & Media Reaction:
  • There’s consensus on a likely suspension and fine; had Philly lost, Carter’s absence would have dominated the headlines as blame.

6. Player Mentality and Team Dynamics

• Effort and Accountability: Both hosts emphasize the difference between superstars and role players, referencing Lamb’s drops and Carter’s conduct.
  • “It’s okay to be wrong. ... You can still be a fan and admit your player was wrong.” — Chad, on holding teammates accountable (48:55)
• Offensive Lines Are Huge: Shannon gets laughs for ducking out on picking up a dinner tab for the entire Bengals D-line, marveling at their massive size and appetites (66:14–67:40).

7. Quarterback Play: Jalen Hurts’ Performance

• Steady Command: Hurts is praised for cool leadership (19-of-23, 152 yards, 2 rushing TDs, no turnovers). Both hosts note his ability to control the game with legs and make safe decisions (59:28–62:11).
  • Shanahan: “He’s a commander of the offense. He did a great job. Threw it away when he needed to … He allowed us to extend downs.” (62:11)
• Debate Over Top-5 Status: Discussion about differing asks for top QBs ("He’s not asked to do what Joe Burrow, Mahomes, those guys are asked. ... Let’s build what’s best for our QB.” — Chad, 60:15)
• Cautious Optimism: Despite a win, concerns remain about Philly’s new OC and roster losses, especially on defense.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Ceedee Lamb’s Drops:

  • Shannon: “That’s the reason you make that kind of money ... for opportunities in situations like that.” (09:33)
  • Chad: “When your teammates start looking at you—well, ain’t you supposed to be him?” (34:13)

• On Jalen Carter’s Ejection:

  • Shannon: “Spitting is off limits. That’s some s—... I’m surprised Dak was able to restrain himself.” (38:49)
  • Chad: “If I'm the Eagles ... this is the effort, this is who we are. If we want to get back to where we want to be, this is the type of effort I need from everybody. No excuses allowed. Job’s got to get done.” (24:35, referring to Baun’s play, which contrasts Carter’s moment later)
  • Shannon: “You too good of a player to do that. ... You’re in the conversation with Chris Jones, Jeffrey Simmons. Like, you are him.” (41:31)

• On Eagles’ Play Calling:

  • Shannon: “How is he not a part of the game plan? ... Pay A.J. Brown 33 million and he doesn’t have a target?” (16:55)

• On Team Dynamics and Football Life:

  • Shannon: “I had a game just like that ... one of the worst feelings ever.” (33:58)
  • Chad: “It’s okay to be wrong. You can still be a fan and admit your player was wrong.” (48:55)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Game Recap and Lamb’s Drops: 07:44–11:46
• Miles Sanders Chased Down, Team Effort: 12:00–18:29
• Effect of Lightning Delay: 18:37–19:18
• Micah Parsons’ Absence & Dallas D: 19:18–21:11
• Eagles’ Playcalling Critique, A.J. Brown’s Usage: 15:47, 16:31–17:28
• Discussion of Defensive Losses (Slay, Graham, etc): 32:15–33:10
• CeeDee Lamb Accountability Segment: 33:10–34:44
• Jalen Carter Spitting Incident: 38:20–44:36 (entire debate)
• QB Play and Hurts’ Command: 59:28–62:11
• Dinner with Bengals D-line (Comic Relief): 66:14–67:40

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Final Thoughts

Sharpe and Johnson’s “Nightcap” provides a blend of high-level football analysis, hard truths about accountability, and locker-room humor. They sharply critique both teams’ performances and attitudes—especially Ceedee Lamb’s costly drops and Jalen Carter’s loss of discipline—while underscoring the emotional highs and lows of NFL life. Their banter makes the X’s and O’s fun and relatable, whether they’re talking missed catches, defensive hustle, or what happens when you let your team down. This episode is a can't-miss for fans wanting both insight and entertainment.

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For Listeners:

This episode offers candid locker room insight, play breakdowns, and off-field perspective on respect in professional sports. It’s essential listening for those who want more than just highlights—they want to understand how the game is felt, played, and processed by the legends themselves.

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Please go follow my media company page on all of his platform Shay Media and my clothing company 84. With 84 being spelled out. That link is pinned in the chat. We've got a new show launched under the Shay Shay Media umbrella, Debo and Joe with James Harrison and Joe Hayden. Please go subscribe to their YouTube page. Debo and Joe. They'll be live tomorrow morning at 11:00am they're live Monday, Tuesday and Friday. Tomorrow they're live again. It's their third show. Those guys are doing great. Go over there and show them some love by subscribing and taking a look at them. Football is back. The Eagles beat the Cowboys Ocho by the score of 2420. It was an awful half. A late half for CD. CD had big big drop Ocho and he being that guy, he's the number one. He's wide receiver number one. Not in this game. Not in that game. Dak threw. They had a quarters beaters on Ocho. They gobbled him up. They ran the. Ran the slot. He gobbled up the safety. Corners playing outside leverage. CD Goes to the post, got just walk. That's a handoff. That's what we call what a walking to him. D. That's a long handoff. Dropped it in the bucket. CD said, nah, I don't want it. That you take it, throw it back at it. Came back later, threw him another one up the rail. Got a go ball. Oo. I don't know why diving like he doing an st plunge. You ain't diving poo. Just run up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He dove purposely just because the safety was coming.

[Chad Johnson]

So.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So to avoid. To avoid getting hit and being able to make the catch. I'mma die for this one. Bring it in. I don't know what happened tonight. I don't know what happened tonight. Ceedee had a chance to win the game for the Cowboys. That's the way the game should have ended. As great as the game was before the lightning delay with them both, with both teams going up and down the field and scoring back to back. Listen, the Cowboys should have sealed the deal. It was three big plays, right? It was three.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, I counted three. I counted three drops, but somebody tweeted at me and said, no, he had four drops. But I know I count. I counted three. Cause I know I counted one in the second quarter that he had one and it went right through his hand. He almost got it picked. As a matter of fact, two of the three, two of the four drops almost got picked and probably should have been picked. But you. You're right. You're right, Ojo. CD Being the player that he is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got to have those. You get. You got to have those. Especially being what we consider to be. We talk about the top five receivers in NFL, those are the kind of catches that you make. Matter of fact, the money that you do make is the reason you make that kind of money for opportunities in situations like that expect you to make those. So, I mean, it's unfortunate. See, you gonna have to get back to the drawing board and you know what to do. Uncle, you've had games like that, big games where you drop important plays that. That can change the magnitude of a game. You know, in. In his moments like that, that determines wins and losses.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. And it's about no one play. No, it's not one play. It was four play. It was Four plays. I counted three and, and, and, and three of them would have been first downs. Oo the last one ended the. Basically ended the game because they. That was on fourth down. But he had the post. I mean, Brian Scheimer had the perfect play called on. They're playing quarters coverage. They got the slide to eat up the, the safety. The corner is playing outside leverage on cd CD runs a post. Dak can't throw it any better. That's what we call walking to him. He walk. That's a long handoff. That's how perfect the ball was thrown. He threw the other one that he dropped that he laid out for Ocho. You know, when you're unsure your hands, you do a lot of diving because you're going to catch it with your body. Ocho, you supposed to run up under the thing. You both. Hey, see, that's CD Lamb. CD Lamb supposed to run up under that face. Oh, damn, dad, you do handed this one to me. You handed me another one. A lot of times there are times that you have to dive, but I don't believe CD needed to dive for that ball. Watching it, having played the receiving position, you play the receiving position. I don't believe he needed to die.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Listen, I think he was trying to protect himself. And I, I gave my, my based on what I saw, okay, why he did die, okay? I'm a dive and catch it because I know the safety is coming. I'm gonna avoid the collision by jumping forward and being able to cover myself up and protect myself and by making the catch by diving. Obviously things didn't work out. Those are plays that we expect, that we all expect. People watching. Whether you're a Cowboys fan or not, you expect CD Lamb to make. Because those two catches, those two big catch zunk change the trajectory of the game.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, for sure. And the Cowboys have turnover too, Ocho, remember? You remember they had a turnover also? They was down. They was down at what, like the 10 yard line and the guy fumbled the ball.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Running back. Running back. Yes, sir.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes, yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Matter of fact, that was, that was Sanders.

[Chad Johnson]

Miles Sanders. First of all, I thought Miles Sanders was faster than that. Ain't no way a linebacker supposed to catch a running back. I don't give a damn who the linebacker is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got to remember now, we talk about linebackers that running 4, 4, 4, 5.

[Chad Johnson]

Now Zach Braun don't run no 4, 4, 4, 5. That's miles. So what linebacker? So what linebacker? What linebacker? You know, catching Derrick Henry. Which one? Catching Saquon. Which one? Catching Christian McCaffrey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, but see, see, hey, you can't.

[Chad Johnson]

Let no running back. You can't let no line back. Oh, yo, and look where he came from.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Just look at. Look at the. Look at the running backs you just named. You. You named your tier one running backs.

[Chad Johnson]

You.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You named your tier one running.

[Chad Johnson]

Go back and look. Go back and look where. And see where Zach Braun came from. And you tell me if he's supposed to run Miles Sanders down. And what made it even more egregious if he tried to punch the ball out first. He missed that. Say, damn, I couldn't punch it out. Now let me tackle him. That, bro, you cannot let him, Ocho, in a situation like that. That's a breakaway because you broke the initial line safety takes a horrible angle corner. Don't know. Corner's like a blind dog in a meat hot. Talking about, which way did he go? Which way did he go? So he didn't know anything. And now he got. I hit my head on the goal.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You supposed to. I don't. I don't think. Miles Sanders is not one of those burners like that. He's not a Chris Johnson, you know, he's not. He's not a Jir Gibbs. He's not gonna get out. And even with the pursuit, I'm gonna outrun everybody.

[Chad Johnson]

He. Well, hell, he ran like Freddy Gills. You talking about Jabir Gibbs? Hell, I took. I took Freddy Gibbs on that one. Hell, I think he could have made it there. Chad, y' all go back and look at that play and tell me. Look at where Braun came from. And you tell me if he was supposed to run Miles Sanders down. Oh, he's on the other side.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, hey.

[Chad Johnson]

I can see.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ever listen? Oh, you ran track, didn't you?

[Chad Johnson]

Yes, I did.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me tell you the feeling Miles Sanders had. You ever ran that goddamn 400?

[Chad Johnson]

I did. I was on my relay team. I ran over for it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So off that third curve and that monkey jump on your back, and you.

[Chad Johnson]

Try everything that last 110, don't you? You gotta come up out there. That last 110, you got to come up out of there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know that. You know that feeling.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, but. And, like, look, the thing is, Ocho, look, I understand if the guy is. Is pursuing, that means he got an anger angle. Excuse me. But this guy was a chaser. He chased him down. He didn't have no angle. He ran him. I was like, what the hell? I was like. I like what I saw from the cowboys. Offensively, defensively. I'M still concerned. Oo. Because if you go back and look when they came. When they came out of the lightning timeout, the delay. If you notice, Eber Flutes did something that he didn't do early in the game, which was blitz. He blitzed two. He. He brought. He brought Diggs, he brought a corner, and then he bought a slot. So he bought a cat and a slot blitz because he saw he couldn't get there with just four. And when they got up minimal pressure, they let him. You can't give up lanes to get a mobile quarterback. Every time I was like, I'm like, dude, what are y' all doing? But that. And. And that's not what Eber Flutes like to play cover two. He'd like to keep everything in front of him. He doesn't want to sacrifice his back end, but he had no choice because those a. You got the number one rated left tackle. You got the number one rated right tackle. So you ain't getting nothing. Now, my lotta did get lazy on one play, and he stayed too long, too long. And I don't. I don't remember 41's name, but he allowed him to get some pressure. But Lane Johnson was. Lane Johnson was doing it. Like, hey. And he was doing. He was doing his thing. Tonight, Dickerson did go out, so that's a situation that Bears watching. But I told you, Ocho, I had some concerns because the Eagles lost their coordinator, and the guy that they got calling plays now has never called plays. So I don't give a damn who your personnel is. The likelihood of somebody that's never called plays come in and been dealing is probably not gonna happen. Now, you mean to tell me you go 30, 45, 56 minutes before you give AJ Brown a target?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, listen, I tweet. I tweeted. I tweeted that I think they were nine minutes into the second quarter, and the first thing I said was, well, can we get A.J. brown involved, please? There's no need. There's no need for AJ to have to be reading that book called Silence on the Sideline again. There's no. There's no need for that. How do you go into a game in week one and you pay A.J. brown what, 28. 28 million?

[Chad Johnson]

No, A.J. get like 33.

[Shannon Sharpe]

33 million, and he doesn't have a target. How is he not a part of the game plan? I understand the Eagles have a way of doing things. Matter of fact, the way the Eagle do do things, they went and won a Super bowl by doing things the way they do them. But how do you not get your number one target, your number one receiver involved into the game early? It doesn't have to be anything extravagant. It could be a smoke route. It could be a. It could be a quick hitch. It could be a quick out. You know, something just to get him. Just to get him acclimated and make him feel like he's a part of the. A part of the game plan.

[Chad Johnson]

A whole lot of separation the fourth quarter. Yeah, I didn't see a whole lot of. I didn't see a whole lot of separation either. Oo to go back when they were showing. When they would show the, you know, sort of a different angle. It's not like it's. It's not like there was a whole lot of separation. It's Zach Bond. B A U n Bond. I was saying.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Braun. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

How do you pronounce it? B A u n. I thought it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Was a u n.

[Chad Johnson]

All I know is he chased down Miles Sanders, and then the next, very next play, they fumble the ball. So he saved the touchdown. Now you look at the difference. That's. That's one guy that. That somebody. Sometimes Ocho, we get. Oh, somebody else will make that play. He took it upon himself. I ain't worried about nobody. I'm gonna go make the damn play. And sometimes we get that on a team because football is the ultimate team game. Man, Ocho gonna make the play. Nah, you go make the play. Bond. Like.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, B a u n. Don Bond.

[Chad Johnson]

Bond. Okay. But it's. I thought the game was really. Was. Was. It was. I mean, there was no defense in the first half. Let me take that back. If you like offense, this game was the game for you in the first half. But when that delay happened, Ocho, and that's hard. That is very hard to take that kind of time because, Ocho, you just came out of the lake. You just came out of half and.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Then get back going.

[Chad Johnson]

And then so. So now you're like, okay, I'm good to go. I'm good to go. And they blow it. It's a knob. Hey, you back for a delay for another 45 minutes. So it's hard to tune back up after you've turned down and to tune, you know, turn down again and get back going. So the game. The game. The second half was not as interesting as the. As the first half.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The first half was phenomenal. For it to be a week one game, it was promoted the way it was advertised. It lived up to just that. It lived up to just that now I got. I got a question for you too. How do you feel with Michael Parsons being out and I think Micah Parsons not being there, it it if Micah was there, I think he takes away some of those scrambling, some of those where people weren't disciplined staying in their lanes. So I think some of that pressure. There was really no pressure on brother. Jalen Hurts for most of the night. How do you feel? No, the Cowboys did in the run game that Jerry claimed they improved on since getting rid of Michael Parsons.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, they gave up 38 for 158. So that's about what, 4K? That's about 4 carry.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's not.

[Chad Johnson]

They did a great, they did a great job on Saquon. 18 for 60. They didn't let him hit. They didn't let him go crazy. He had a nice TD run. The TD run was really, really nice. Jalen Hurts was the only one that really hurt him with his legs. Those two touchdowns because people got the, the gap responsibility. They got out of their lanes. He found the lane. The thing that you don't want to let a mobile quarterback do is scramble to his dominant hand. Well, he's a right handed quarterback. In the first touchdown you let him get outside to a dominant, his dominant hand. Second one, you know, you just got collapsed down and then he takes out the back door. So give, give Jalen Hurts credit for that. Dallas is going to have to be. There's not a time you're going to have to. Well, look, you got Jane Daniels in that division. Russ can run, but Russ ain't. Ain't Jalen Hurts. He's not Jaden Daniels. But looking at this game, Ocho, I think Dallas is going to be fine. I don't want to make too much about it because I think Dallas's offense is going to be fine. The question that I have is that are they going to be able to generate enough pressure? That's the question that I have, Ocho. Now everybody ain't got an offensive line like Philly now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. Which is.

[Chad Johnson]

And the thing that Philly was able to do is that they were able to say, look, they didn't get down to make that the force. Dallas couldn't force them to just throw, throw, throw. Cause we still could run just enough because you look, it was seven nothing and seven, seven. And then, and then, you know, the score was what it was. So it was never a situation where the Eagles had to get out of character. Now if you have to get out of character and you're not able to Run the ball to make those guys like they can run it well, you're gonna have a problem. And the thing is that you gotta give Eber Flutz credit because you play cover two. You gotta run a team out of COVID two and that's why there was nothing there because that's what Ibrahim Flutes like to play. You go back and study him at Indy. You go back and study him with the Bears. That's the defense that he loves to play. And so you know, like I said, I'm, I'm not overly concerned but I'm cautious about the Eagles because this is the first year, this is a first year play caller and the expectations are so high because you come, you coming off a Super bowl, you got the offensive player of the year, you bring your basically all your offensive guys back now you did lose a lot of guys on defense now and what we're going to get into like before the game even started. Oo According to the next gen stat, Zack Bond reached the top speed of 20.68 to make a TD. 7 tackle Miles Sanders was 19.2.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I told you, you, you got to.

[Chad Johnson]

Me that's the fastest play from scrimmage of his career.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I told you hunk he got. I, I don't know what Zack B. I don't know what he ran. I don't know what he ran at the combine but I do understand that monkey jumped on Miles Sanders back. I don't know if Miles Sanders has ever been a blazer.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, it gota be a player that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We, that we looked or viewed as a burner that can hit his head off the goalpost from anyone on the field. I don't think we've ever viewed him like that. Brother, brother. Bond is fast obviously. And then that, that's where the game.

[Chad Johnson]

Zach, Zach Bond ran a 465. Now that's when he's coming out. He's looking for a job. Guys, I'm gonna get, I've got my best suit on, I got my best polo shirt, I got my best tie and my best black shoes. You think he running, you think he running that time right now? Six years in the league. Exactly.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know that football. Let me say something. Football speed and, and 40 yard dash feeding. Completely different. You know who else ran a 46 and never got caught? The greatest receiver of all time. You know who else ran, ran a 4, 5 and never got caught? 4 6, 4 5. Same thing. You, you know else won the 45 of the combine but hell he was lightning quick and never got Caught either.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. That he wanted that Ocho. That's. That's just like man, I can't let. Cause at 4. First of all, Ocho normally 4 6. You ain't even like, man, that's a running back. Hey. At a party say bad. He. He was had. He used to work for the state. He was state trooper. Say man, he was part. Had his car parked Ocho. So he car went past him. So he probably doing 140. So he.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He said forget it. All he had to do is hey radio and call ahead.

[Chad Johnson]

Zach. Zach Bond could have easily did that. He could have easily did that. Oo and nobody would have been upset. But something inside see, that's. That's the difference between winning and losing ball game. You see the effort. Now if I'm the Eagles, if I'm Sirianni, I'm pulling that on the loop. This is the effort. This is who we are. If we want to get back to where we want to be, this is the type of effort I need from everybody. No excuses allowed. Job got to get done. That was. That was as impressive. But because the very next play Oo we gave, they got a fumble.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know what's funny too on that fumble. Goddamn Miles Sanders coming through the hole. The first thing quarter, I mean quarterback. The first thing running backs do is they put both hands on the ball. He had hands on the ball and it still. It still got up out of there.

[Chad Johnson]

Still got up out there. Hey, sometimes Oo the perfect hit a nothing you can do, man. Ain't nothing you can do. Look, watching AJ Brown the last couple years, you know, I probably a little bit in Tennessee, but we didn't. Tennessee was really not on our radar like that. But since the Eagles, he's probably happy they won, but he see them got to be, you know what's going. You. You know what's going on. Oo. I don't with a hope. I practiced all summer long. I did all this training camp, these OTAs, these mini camps for this. Hold on what he have one catch for eight yards.

[Shannon Sharpe]

One had my dog out there doing cardio. Now, listen, I. I will. I will say this. I will say this. Some of the plays where Jaylen Hurst was going to A.J. brown when he condensed the splits, he was running. What do you call it? The dig. The 12 yard dig. The little short one. Yeah, yeah, I saw you still call it dig. I thought they had them different. Different. Anyway, he was trying to go to A.J. safety came down, been on it right away. He had to come up off it. There were a few times where Jalen Hurst was going to him, but pressure got in the way, D lineman got in the way, and Jalen had to get up out of there. So the times he was on throwing the ball, he couldn't get it to him. I. I will say that, but the fact is even. The fact still remains. Even still, one goddamn catch in the fourth quarter. Come on now. Come on now.

[Chad Johnson]

Ocho. If a team gonna play, you cover too. You got to run them out of it. Because the thing was, if you look at it, when he's at his best, when he can play pitch and catch, it's single high safety. They're working on one on one. Devonte's one on one, AJ's one on one. X, Y and Z. You look at the one he dropped in the bucket. The Datsun, perfect coverage. They got him in quarter, playing outside leverage. He dropped it in the bucket. They couldn't run them out. They couldn't run them out of COVID Hold on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Even if they do want to play cover two.

[Chad Johnson]

Boom.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, y' all want to go on cover two?

[Chad Johnson]

Boom.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We're gonna get this bits. Put, put him in motion, do spacing, find the hole, find the zone.

[Chad Johnson]

It's simple.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If you really want to get. If you really want to get your player the ball. There's so many things you could do with him offensively. There's so many.

[Chad Johnson]

I want to give him the ball. Oo. But I'm not going to jump my offense to get him the ball. I'm not going to go out. See, that's, that's, that's what we got to be careful of. Ooh. Trying to get him the ball, getting outside of our offense because the, because most offenses are at their best when it's flowing, when it's fluid. And I'm not trying to force you to ball pick. If you go look at, look at pickets. Pickens had three. I mean, Ferguson had five. Have what he have. CD Lamb had 13 targets. George Pickens had four targets. Ferguson has six targets. So only Lamb should be pleased with the amount of targets that he got. But he should have had another four catches or she should have had 11 for about a buck 65, maybe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, this game, brother. CD Lamp.

[Chad Johnson]

No, I'm talking about CD Lamb.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This game. CD Lamb should add about 200. Okay, opening night, Thursday night. Based on what I saw tonight, CD Lamb should have left that game for one with a W, two with a 200 yard game. Easy to start the season off.

[Chad Johnson]

Yep. I tell you What OO I show hope the Eagles don't rel. Don't regret letting Slay go. Hey, boy. Boy. They was having. It was having their way with the door Jackson.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I, you know, I, I wouldn't nine year veteran. He's been, he's been playing, he's been playing long enough in Tennessee, in New York with the Giants. He has enough experience. Once he gets settled in, big Vanos understands what he can and what he cannot do. Making sure whatever you need to hide, whatever weaknesses he may have at the defensive back position, you're gonna have, you're gonna have to be able to hide that. You're gonna have to be able to hide that until he gets his confidence back. If he's lost it, you, you got to. Because if there was one week, if there, if there's one weak link that pops out on film, especially like tonight's game, what you think every other team gonna do? They're gonna attack it every time. They gonna attack it every time.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm going to him. I'm going to him. I what you no for real though. That's what I'm doing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Absolutely. Absolutely.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, it's. It's kind of like when, when Eli Apple, wherever Eli Apple was, the ball found him, did the dojo. It didn't matter where he was. He could play the slot, he could play the right corner, he could play the left corner, he could play the nickel. It didn't dime. It did not matter. All I know if he lined up on me, the ball coming to me, whoever he lined up all on, that's where the ball was. Finding the ball's gonna find him. So Adori Jackson, until he fixed that ball gonna find it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I, I think, I think he's gonna be, he's gonna be be okay. He's made many, many, many a plays and once he gets acclimated in that defense, Big Banjo understands what he can and can't do with the dory when to have him free went to having with help when they having the man, whatever he does best, they'll figure it out. Obviously it's only week one, but right now when you watch film on this Eagles Cowboys game, I'm not sure who the Eagles play next, but the first thing they'll say, oh, when you look at defense, okay, we got to find the fish.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm looking for him too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We gotta find the fish. Who was the fish? Who was the weak link that we can.

[Chad Johnson]

And I'm. And I'm baiting and guess what, Ocho, I'm baiting I got some good. I got some good charm. Are you. You damn right I'm looking. I'm looking for it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Listen, I'm just happy football season's back.

[Chad Johnson]

I am, too, Ocho. And the thing is, if you think about it, no, Joe Big Fangio likes to play. He likes to play nickel defense, if you notice. He liked to play Cooper John in the slot. He loved to play nickel. He loved to play single. He loved to play too deep because he believed. I will keep everything in front of you. I got pressure now. And we're going to talk about this in a little bit about Jalen Carter, and I don't know what the hell he was thinking, but in the. In. In. That's. In this situation, I'm a little concerned. The Eagles and the. The. Their inability to generate pressure. Yeah, yeah, but you. But you lost a lot, too. Y. Didn't they have a Who. That's the. They lost sweat. They lost. Yeah, they lost Sl. They let Slay go corner. One of the D lineman, big D lineman got paid. Uh. Uh, two of the D linemen got paid.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Brandon. Brandon retired.

[Chad Johnson]

Graham retired. And so the thing is. Oo is that, you know, oh, you keep saying, next man up, next man up. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Ain't no next man. And you can't keep going three, four men until. Oh, yeah, you. You got it, bro. Bro. There's a reason why you. You at the back of the bus. Oh, they got the Chiefs next week, Ocho. They got the Chiefs next week. CD was officially credited with four drops. Four drops.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Four, four, four, four.

[Chad Johnson]

That ain't good cd. You know he better than that. He'll go back, look at the tape. Maybe that's what. That's how he does it. I don't. I don't know what's his thought process or how he gets ready for the next game. He'll go back because he ran. He ran great routes. He was open. He just got. He just has to make those catches. He's. He's. That. He there. He's. He wears 88 for a reason.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Two of the guys that's worn 88s in the pro Football hall of Fame. That's what they expect of cd. And those guys made those plays when opportunity presented itself. I'm not saying he's not going to have a drop. That. That's. I mean, hey, you're going to have a drop. Some games you go, you catch everything. Some games you go, you know, you have a drop like this. You can't have four. You can't have four, and you can't. You can't have. He had two big. I mean, back to back drives, Ocho.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he gonna be right on. Matter of fact, have you ever had a game like that before?

[Chad Johnson]

I'm trying to think, Ojo. No, not where. Not where I've had that many drops. I've had a game where I had. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but I haven't had a game where I had, you know, three, four, five. No, four or five. No, I haven't had a game like that, but I've had.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I had a game just like that, like cd. CD did against the Buffalo Bills. You talk about one of the worst feelings ever, right? But when you get. When you get the 2 and 3 and your teammates start looking at you. Well, ain't you supposed to be him?

[Chad Johnson]

You. Are you okay? You okay? Hey, you get up, you get them sharp, you get them. Next time, man, please. Hey, hey. Oo. That's what you said after the first drop. Here we are, three or four days. It's next. It's the next.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's why I love playing with tj. That's why I love playing with T. Because those are the type of individuals, even though they your teammates or they don't give to you Raw all that. Oh, it's gonna be all right. Nah, TJ and T, man, what is you doing?

[Chad Johnson]

We will let that one. We're gonna let that Raw. We'll let that one slide. No, no, I'm saying we let that first Raw slide. But that's all you get for this week now. So when we come back. When we come back on Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday. Ain't no more. Ain't no more. Getting it to you Raw.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, pause, pause, pause.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We. We let. That was slide. That's what My bad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I was talking too fast. I ain't even. Hey, I ain't even realized. I said my bad. My bad.

[Chad Johnson]

I know you did.

[Shannon Sharpe]

My bad.

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[Chad Johnson]

Ocho, we gotta start about Talk about the start of the game. Jalen Carter was ejected for spitting on Dak Prescott in a new video. Angle showed that Dax bit first at the ground in Carter's direction, smiled and laughed. Carter then walked towards the Cowboys huddle, leaning, the two exchanging words and Carter spit on deck. NFL needed suspended One game, One game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, absolutely. That's feasible I think it's easy, Uncle. You can't do that. I don't. I don't care. You can talk trash. You can say what you want to say. You can say whatever you want to say. For one, you. You inside, they huddle. You cross the ball. Inside, they huddle. You know, go at it, whatever. Listen, you already intimidating. You're already top three at your position in the NFL. There's no more. There's nothing you can say or do that you haven't already put on film or. We need to be going at it with that. We understand what the damage you were going to do in this game. You know, to go out there and spit on somebody, that. That's. That's the worst thing that you can do to anybody. On. That's the worst thing you can do to anybody. Spitting on someone is uncalled for. Spitting on someone is. We have to fight no matter what. At a funeral. We at church. We in the street spirit. Spitting is off limits. That's some. You. You just. You just. I'm surprised D Was able to restrain himself.

[Chad Johnson]

I understand He a quarterback. He a quarterback. And anything that I do, you know, first of all, I swing on him. I hurt my hand. I. I need this to throw the foot.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Don't swing on. I mean, I. I just.

[Chad Johnson]

Just. Just something.

[Shannon Sharpe]

There is nobody you can find in the chat. If you switch. If you switch. What if that was you?

[Chad Johnson]

Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What you would have did. Jay called a spit on you right there in the middle of the field.

[Chad Johnson]

See, hey, I'm. I'm gonna get thrown out the game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't think there's any other player. And I think because Dak is a quarterback, he had to react the way he did. I. It's commendable because you don't expect.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, Chad, stop, stop. He did that. Did not spit on him. Y' all need to stop chat. Chat. Y' all need to chat. Stop with this. Oh, Dax. Dax spit at him. Dax spit on the ground. Dak was in his huddle.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he.

[Chad Johnson]

Do y' all see where Dak was? Y' all make it seem like Dak walked up to him, spit on the ground right in front of his shoes. Did you see where Dak was? He walked towards Dak and spit on him. Chad, stop this. You can't. Y' all tried to conflate. Well, he did this, so that's why he did that. No, it's not the same chat, and you know it. He got baited. He got cost himself, and he's probably going to get suspended the game. You do these kind of antics where you're not a good enough player. He's too good of a player. He doesn't need to do shenanigans. He don't need to do this. Ocho. He's that good. He's an All Pro. He's a Pro bowl player. He doesn't need to do any of that. Now he can just let his play.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Speak for himself, which I knew it was going to do. You do understand he's top three at his position?

[Chad Johnson]

Yes, I realize how good he can be.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What is he doing? I don't understand. Like you. You're in the conversation with Chris Jones and. And. And. And Jeffrey Simmons. Like you are him.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't get it.

[Chad Johnson]

Because here's the thing. This is how I know he doesn't know how good he is. Because he does stuff like this. Aaron Donald, Reggie White, the great, they didn't have to do nothing like this. They say, you know what I'm gonna do? I get you. Okay. You wanna wink at me that you wanna spit. Yeah, I get you. You do? That's why quarterbacks don't do much. They don't say anything. Cause the guy they talking to could come over there and literally break their.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn neck every time.

[Chad Johnson]

I don't want to piss you off. Hey, hey. Look at what Brady always say. Good hit, great job. Hey, you a heck of a player. He always butted him up. I'm gonna try to stay on the good five. Jalen, you didn't have to do that, bro. I don't even know. Bro. Bro, you weren't raised like that. You weren't raised like that, man. And the only thing is you in a structured environment like the NFL, bro, you mess around and do something like that in the streets, and, bro, you get hurt, bro. Don't do that. You too good of a player to do that. Why would you spit? I'm talking about. Think about it, Ocho. Do you think about. Remember to do something like that? You done thought about that before, you know? I mean, that's the thing that come to your mind. You walk up to the man and spit on the man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You not. Hey, like, have you. Chad.

[Chad Johnson]

Chad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Just. Just. I'm. I want y' all to actually visualize this. We talk about week one. This is the NFL before the game even starts. The best player on defense gets thrown out the game before it even starts for actually spitting. Not a punch, not a shove, not a. Not a scrum, not an altercation. Spitting. One of the worst Things you can do to someone when you're actually angry. Right.

[Chad Johnson]

And first of all, oo, as black men do, you know, like the civil rights. That's what happened. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You get spit on.

[Chad Johnson]

You got the whole. Got the. Got the water holes. You got. Got hit upside the head with the. Billy you was. I mean, you would do that to another. First of all, you shouldn't do that to another at all, period. But you do that. You would do. You would do that. Of all the things you could do. Say, you know what? I'm gonna get 40 snaps. I get a chance. I get your ass back, I get you back. Don't worry about that. I get you. I'm gonna get you. Just so you know. I'm gonna get you. Now if he getting. And he a. He power drives him, I ain't got no problem. I bet you won't do that. I bet you won't spin on the ground no more.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And the funny.

[Chad Johnson]

Got no problem. Get him back. But don't do that, Jalen, you too good of a player to ever do that. If they suspect if they suspend him for a game. Ocho, what's the. What's the appeal? What are we appealing?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can't appeal at. You can't. Even if you do, you. It's going to be uphill. You're not gonna win that one. I already know. I already know what the NFL office is going to do. I already know what Roger Catal is going to do. I already know what those who hand down the disciplines are going to do. They're going to suspend it for one game. Absolutely. In fact, they need to get going to get fined as well. Along with that.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, the. The final bill. Cause you'll miss a game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Bingo. Yeah. Okay. Okay.

[Chad Johnson]

Ocho, what makes this even more egregious? It's opening night Thursday night. You the defending champs. Everybody watching this game. And that's what you do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, he was gonna have a hell of a game too. I can feel it. Hey, it's okay to talk trash, too.

[Chad Johnson]

How you. How you. How you think? I'm mad at that. And that's what I did for four. Well, for 11. Matter of fact, first couple of years, I ain't really do no talking. I wouldn't. I ain't no sense of talking. You on specialty. What the hell you talking for?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Is I like Jaylen Carter talking trash. I like Jaylen Carter setting the tone for everybody else on that defense by doing what he was doing before the game started. I just don't like the spin Part. I don't like that part. But Jalen Carter said the tone like that getting in Dax face, office alignment right there. Did you notice? Not one office lineman turned around and said anything. What does that tell you? Not one officer lineman turned around and said anything, and they can hear him talking trash to their quarterback. That tells you how they view him as a player.

[Chad Johnson]

Me, Look, I. I don't. I don't know how, like I said, but our offensive lineman, we. They get you. They get you. But see, you can't block like we. Like what we could block.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Are you engaged and people coming?

[Chad Johnson]

No, no. Well, you. You can't. That's a chop block. You can't do that. That's the Jerry ball rule. That messed up J ball or Detroit lion nose guard. He got high, low. Guy posted him. Guy went right into his knee and blew his knee out. So you can't. You can't do. You can't do that, Ocho. But what we could do. We cockroach you. We have your heels up in the air. Oh, we have your heels up in the air, and we'll. We're gonna. We're gonna cut you and cut you. Huh? Oh, we have your cockroach your heels gonna be up in there. Hey, hey, that thing. Hey, that thing, like synchronized. Like synchronized women. You watch all of us cut. We just. The whole backside just fall down. Oh, baby, we.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't never. I ain't never heard that before.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, we get you. Oh, we. Yeah, yeah. And that's the thing. Oh, all that talking. I don't care nothing about all that. You got to play this game, though. Now, remember. Remember what you said?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, the funny thing about it is, everything he say he can back up, he just went a little too far with it on. Just a little too far. That.

[Chad Johnson]

That. That's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's unaccessible. I'm not. I'm not sure. Anybody. Anybody who would be okay with what happened even if Dak did spit towards the ground. You know how the Cowboys do.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When you get ready to do what you call a little face off, they used to do in the old westerns.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, you talking about. Yeah, you talking about.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I forgot what they call that.

[Chad Johnson]

You talk about three paces and turn around.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They do. They spit off to the side before they draw. I mean, it was one of those down. Down at the flow. Which is. Which was the retaliation with himself.

[Chad Johnson]

I don't know. Maybe it's chat. Yes, Dax bit first, but did Dax bit on Jalen Carter? That's what I need Y' all to ask, answer me this. Did Dak spit on Jaylen Carter? It doesn't matter who spit first. Did he spit on Jalen Carter? If you can answer yes to that, then we can have a further discussion. Other than that, what are you talking about? Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

He was wrong. It's okay to be wrong. Look, I understand if you're an Eagles fan, you're a Georgia Bulldog fan, you're Jaylen Carter's fan. You can still be a fan of his. Admit your player was wrong. It's okay. It is okay. My teammate did that. I said my teammate was wrong. Yes. I said Romo's wrong. I said, Romo's my teammate. I said, but he's wrong in this situation. I didn't know J.J. stokes. I had practiced against Romo for this was 97. So I had played with Romo, 96, played 97. Go against each other in training camp, practice against each other. But Romo was wrong. It's okay to say someone was wrong and try and not try to make excuse for his behavior. Oh, he shoved it, man. Stop, stop. It's okay, Chad. It's okay to be wrong. Your guy was wrong in this situation and Dak baited him. That's why LeBron's like, no, I don't get into it. It's like, what type of trade off is that? I get thrown out the game for yelling or saying something or pushing somebody and he get thrown out. Unless it's Steph Curry, unless it's Kevin Durant, I'm getting a third team of thrown out. He the eighth guy on the team I'm at. Worst I've ever been is two. Most of my 22 year career, I've been one. So if I get thrown out, unless that person is Kevin Durant, unless that person is Steph Curry, unless that person is Kobe Bryant or James Harden, it's not equal.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, the funny thing about it is, even if I don't like you, even if I don't like you, and whether I do like you, if we argue, if we're going at it, I still respect you enough not to spit on you. Especially in, especially in the game of that magnitude.

[Chad Johnson]

I never been, I ain't never been that mad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I definitely don't get mad in the game. I don't. But I'm gonna talk my trash. It's okay to talk your trash. But the whole, oh, I, I don't know. I, I don't know.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, listen, yeah, I ain't for that. I, I, I, I, I Ain't for. I ain't for that. I just know. You know, my grand. My grandparents, they. Look, we've been in the south our whole life. Grew up. My grandfather grew up in the South. My grandmother grew up in the south, his mom, his dad, all of. And so I. I don't know. Maybe. Maybe Southerners, maybe Ocho, maybe we look at it more serious, more harsh because of what transpired in the south during the time and that, you know, spitting on somebody. But I. I haven't. That never even crosses my. That never even crossed my mind, Ocho, to spit on somebody. You spit on the ground. So if you tell me you would rather spit on somebody on the ground, you telling me I'm loading the ground. You telling me at that point in time, the ground's not worth spitting on, you are. It's just. Ocho. It's just something about that. When I hear about somebody spit on or I see somebody, it just does something to me. It makes my skin crawl. It really does. It does something to me. Something just goes all over me, man. I just. I. I could. Because I was. Ocho. Because when I came down, I was like. Because by the time I had to get. Do something, go seven, nothing, I'm like, well, damn, where Jalen Carter at? So they get the ball. I said, well, damn, where's Jalen? I had no. I didn't know. No. I didn't see what happened. No. So I'm like, well, damn, where's Jalen? I'm like, I see the Eagles od, Ocho. I'm looking up like, well, damn, what? Jalen Carter, he tired. I'm like, ocho, I'm saying he tired already. And then, I mean, the thing I see. I see on, like, like, on Twitter, I'm like, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, man.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm like, hold on. I was like. So now I'm like, well, when did he do this? So ultra. I'm googling because I want to know, like, if he didn't even play in the game, he play a snap. Almost.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Almost did.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, my goodness. Jeez. Come on, Jayla. Jaylen, you better than that, bro. You better than that. I think for the simple fact, I think a game. He's gonna get at least a game for the simple fact it's Thursday night. It's opening NFL week, and he did that because. Oo, remember, they're trying to, like, they try to stop. Cause, boy, when we were talking, it was. Ian, shut up. Damn. Please. They don't even want you saying that now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, they throw a flag for that. Hell, they threw a flag for Ton tonight. I'm like, okay, come on now.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, but that. But that's. Oh. Oh. Oo, man. Do you know how many n words done been said on the football field?

[Shannon Sharpe]

They're not gonna change that now. I mean, not trying. Trying to control.

[Chad Johnson]

They go up there, throw a flag. But I'm saying, I'm like, boy, that's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's the way 98% of them talk out there when you're competing anyway. That's just the way you talk. So now trying to. Trying to control that in that structured environment, when that's the way we go, I mean, that. That makes. That makes no sense. If that's the case, you're gonna be throwing a flag every goddamn play.

[Chad Johnson]

Mm. But the Eagles lose their best defensive player before even takes a snap. And then he looks shocked. He looks surprised. He looked. I'll be ocho. He literally thought he could do that and still play in the game. I'm like, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Come on. You can read his mouth, man.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, come on, man. Hopefully he was saying that to himself. Come on, man. Cause I know damn well he wasn't saying that to the officials. Talk about they overreacted.

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[Chad Johnson]

I was like, man. Jason Garrett said he talked to Dak and Dak told him that he was talking to Tyler Booker. Had to spit when he. When he did. When he did, Jalen Carter was close by. Carter said, you spit at me. Dak smiled and said, why would I spit at you? And then we all know what Carter did.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I'm glad, I'm glad. I'm glad they won the game. I'm glad they won the game because had they had not won the game, guess would have been the reason why guess would have been the reason why that media outlets and pundits would have led with on why they didn't win because they didn't have you know who that force right?

[Chad Johnson]

According to Next Gen Stats, Jaylen Hurt picked up a career high five first downs on nine scramble runs tonight, including the game clinching third down conversion. Oo he also scored both touchdowns on his scramble runs. Were you impressed by Jaylen Hurst?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Absolutely he did. Jaylen Hurst picked up right where he left off last year. The offense is structured to do what he does best. It's not, it's not aesthetically pleasing to those who love offensive firepower like a a San Diego La Chargers or like a Kansas City chief team or like a Cincinnati Bengal team. That's not the way they do things, but the way they do things. It fits the quarterback situation that they do have. This is why the discourse on Jalen Hurts being a top five quarterback. This is where it comes from. This is where it comes from. This is some of the things that, that Cam and. And Ryan Clark and Dan Orlofsky, some of the other guys that went on about. It is where it come from because.

[Chad Johnson]

But you said something very interesting. No show. You know what you said. He's not asked to do what Joe Burrow, Patrick Mahomes and those other quarterbacks are asked. So you can't. So if you ask, if you ask Joe Burrow to do what Jalen Hurst did, he wouldn't be a top five quarterback either. So how about we do whatever to go to help whatever my quarterback. What. What is best suited for my quarterback to help our team win?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's Exactly.

[Chad Johnson]

He was 19 of 23. A buck 52. No touchdowns, no turnovers. We got a clean game from him. We. He allowed us to extend downs. Okay, I can live with that. Because he allowed us to stay on the field. Now we get more chances to get a touchdown. He scrambled and got two touchdowns. That's his game. If you're looking to Jalen Hurts to go out there and have five games where he throws for 300 yards and three touchdowns, that's not going to happen because that's not how their offense is set up. That's not how they built this team. Now, Joe Burrow might have that. Patrick Mahomes might have that. Justin Herbert might have that. But that's not how this team is built. So to ask him to be something, to be Burrow, to be Mahomes, that's not what he's asked to do. That's not who he is. But can he can. If you say, well, super bowl, you see what the chief. Chief said? No, Saquon's not gonna beat us. And then he picked him apart, letting.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know he can do both. He can do both. It might not be a high volume of passes like the other three teams we name as examples. If I have to do it, I can still do it.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, but the likelihood of those guys getting five first downs with their legs.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Chad Johnson]

You ask, you asking an awful lot. But then you don't play them like you play Jalen Hurts. And you don't play Jalen Hurts like you played them. So you have to be on your best behavior because Jalen hurts can beat you with his legs, you know that. But I thought he, I thought, I thought he was a commander of the offense. He did a great job. He threw it away when he needed to throw it away. He didn't put the ball in harm's way. He got two tush push first downs, the scrambling, like I said, he went out the front side because they let him get to his dominant hand and then the next time they let him get out to the backside and he got, you know, a scrambling touchdown. So, yeah, I thought he played really well tonight. I thought he had great command of the offense. A different voice that's in his ear. For the third time in what, three years he got a different voice. Third time, maybe three, three, four years, he's got a different voice in his ear. But I told you, I think this offense is going to struggle a little bit. Ocho for the simple fact they got a new offensive coordinator. He's never called plays before. Kellen Moore's call plays for very good offenses. Kellen Moore is a damn good play caller. It remains to be seen if he's a great head coach, but he can call some plays.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know what's funny is I think the play calling is going to be fine because it's all. If your officer coordinator doesn't have ego, if your officer coordinator doesn't have ego and understands what he can and can't call based on your skill set and understanding that I can put the ball in Jalen hurts hands and understanding, he's not going to turn it over. He's only going to do what we ask of him and nothing extra. Now when he needs to make something out of nothing, he can do that too. But he's not going to be out there like Brett Favre. You know exactly what I mean.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, William. I think that, I think the problem is Ocho, this is his first time and you know, what's the likelihood of a first time offensive coordinator calling plays for the very first time and his team going to the Super Bowl. You have to have some trial and error. You have to know. You have to know what to call, when to call it down in distance, air to field. You have to have some hardship, you have to have some calluses. You know, Kellen Moore, it took a while before he developed a rhythm, what to call it. Because Ocho, you call a play, you already thinking, okay, this first down, I'm already called that play. I'm looking at second down. Okay, second, what is it going to be? Second to what? Second. Second and 10 second and, you know, five to seven, second and three to five. Second and one. I'm on that plate, so I ain't really watching what's going on because I. I got to think about the next play, and then I got to see how the game is being go. How the game is going. So it's just hard. And that's my concern. And plus, you know, they lost a lot. They lost that defense, lost a lot of players. Guys that were disruptive. That's what they missed. Guys that was disruptive.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Based off what we saw tonight, not only did they lose guys that were disruptive up front, but they lost some important key factors on the back end, too. And tonight it looked kind of shaky on one side.

[Chad Johnson]

It did. So they get to win. That's okay. And guess what? Friday, Saturday, Sunday off.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But who played tomorrow? The Chargers and the Chiefs.

[Chad Johnson]

Huh? Charges. And the Chiefs in Brazil. Brazil.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wait, well, what time the game. Come on in. Hold on. It's a. Is it. What's the time difference in here in Brazil?

[Chad Johnson]

Don't start me. The line. What's the time difference between here starts at 5:00'. Clock. It's 8:00 your time, but it's five on the West Coast.

[Shannon Sharpe]

8:00 my time. Five. Okay. Okay, okay, okay.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, that's. That's good. I'm dying. I'm down here in Cincinnati, so I'm excited, you know. You know, I'm going to. I'm dying. I went. I went to Bagels Bengals practice today. I went to walk through. Yeah, I said. I talked with. Talk with Zach for a little bit. Obviously saw. Saw T. Hicks, Salty and Chase and all them boys.

[Chad Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I was after. After that. Matter of fact, I talked to Duke Tobin, too. I told Duke he doing one hell of a job. I talked to Duke and I saw all the defensive line at Eno Little place down here on the banks. The whole defensive line, all of them. Shemar Stewart, Trey Henderson, BJ Hill, all of them was in there. I guess it was like, you know, sometimes you have positioning outings just.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, I like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, I like that dog boy. Them boys huge. What? And I think I've been away from the game so long, when you get.

[Chad Johnson]

That's what you get up close on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

People like, that's that when you obviously won't be playing. You're used to it, man. Shamar Stewart. Why Trey Henderson wide? I'm like, what the hell?

[Chad Johnson]

I feel the same way.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Listen, I told B.J. hill, I said, but y' all boys enjoy it, man. Get your drink, get your food. I got y'.

[Chad Johnson]

All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I got y', all, man. I went to the bathroom and left at the hotel, man. I went out the back door. I went out the back door. I'm like, I'm looking at what they ordering. I'm like, whoa, whoa, what is y' all doing? Hey, hold on. That's how y' all eat. I say, you know what I thought to myself? Let me see Shamar store, you just got paid. BJ here, you making good money. Trey Henderson, you just got $14 million advance or pay raise, y'. All, Y' all good on the bill, man. I went to the bathroom and went out the side though, man.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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