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Wow.
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We didn't think the divisional gaming could top the divisional game, but it absolutely did. Tonight was a barn burner. We 4140. The Buffalo Bills come back from 15 down in the fourth quarter, scored 22 points and they win it. And a walk off field goal by Matt Prater. 41 year old Matt Prater. You thought the Baltimore Ravens had this game in hand. Josh Allen say you do not. You're in my house. And this is why that MVP trophy is sitting on my mantle next to my wedding photo with my beautiful wife. And thank you guys for joining us tonight. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite UNC Shannon Sharpe, my partner in crime. Here he is ladies and gentlemen, all the way from the Windy City, Liberty City's own Bingo's ring of fame honoree, Maddings ratings adjuster, the former Pro bowl all Pro, he's Chad Ochoci Johnson. And I want to personally thank you again for joining us for an episode of Nightcap. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. And do us a favor, go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed. Wherever you get your podcast from, we'd like to thank each and every one of you that's listening now, that's watching now, and word of mouth. Thank you. Thank you for your support because Nightcap is nothing without its loyal fans. And we thank you, Ocho and I and the Nightcap family. Thank you so much. Please check out My Shade by La Portier now. If you can't find it in a city or state near you, we're on the way. But if we're not there now ordered online, we'll ship it directly to your door. It is the best tasting premium BSOP cognac on the market. And if you've tried it, you know exactly what I'm talking about. If you have it, try it. You will not be disappointed. As you can see on your screen, there's a special keepsake of me and my brother Shayball him going into the Pro Football hall of Fame. This year, he and I became the first two brothers ever selected into the Pro Football hall of Fame. And as a memento, this is what we decided to come up with. We have it in stock. It's a limited release only. Please grab yours while supplies last. Go to la portierconac.com to grab yours while you still can. Please go follow my media company page on all of his platforms. Shay Shay Media and my clothing company, 84. With 84 being spelled out, that link is pinned in the chat. We've got a new show just launched. Under the umbrella of Shay Shay Media is Debo and Joe James Harrison and Joe Hayden. Please go subscribe to their YouTube page. Debo and Joe check them out tomorrow. They're live Tomorrow morning at 11:00am Oo this game. Look, look. The Baltimore Ravens. Derrick Henry. I don't know what it is about the Buffalo Bills, but he loves playing this team. We remember last year in Baltimore, he ran for 199. Even in the playoff game they lost, he only had 16 rushes for 84 yards and a touchdown. Tonight he had 18 rushes, 169 and two touchdowns. But he had a very, very costly fumble. Yeah. Lamar Jackson was sensational again. 14 of 19. Two touchdowns, two 210 yards, two touchdowns. But it was that 6 foot 5, 255 pound mountain of a man.
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Yeah.
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Josh Allen.
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Yes.
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33 of 46, 394. Two touchdowns. He ran the ball 14 times for 30 yards. He had two touchdowns, but it was his ability to throw the football. Sometimes you got to be lucky rather than good. On fourth down, the Tight end tips the ball. Keon Coleman catches it. Yeah, that's the difference in the ballgame. And then they come right back and they get a punch out on Derrick Henry. Well, they got the punch out first. And then they do a great job of going three and out, forcing the Ravens to put the football. Well, three and out and forcing the Ravens to punch the football. Ocho, you're watching this game, and it seems like the Ravens have it in hand. They're doing what they running the football, the play action, passing. They're doing everything D, hop, catching it with one hand. But they're in the locker room. They're upset because they know they had this one and they let this one slip away. What did you like about what you saw from the Buffalo Bills? Not to stop fighting down 15 and the opposing team has the ball.
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Listen, the fact they were able to come back, this is one of the reasons why, even though I. Even though I debunk it, you know, that la.
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I mean, Lamar should have been.
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I always say Lamar should have been MVP last year. This is why Josh Allen won it. You're down by 15. Some things have to go right, huh? The game. 50% execution and 50% luck. Some things have to go right in your favor, and they did for the Buffalo Bills tonight. The fact that they continued to fight, the fact that Josh Allen was able to come back and make some throws that only Josh Allen can make when they. When they were behind to. To come from behind and they have opportunity to win this game is unbelievable. They played really well. The Ravens look good. They lost the game, but the Ravens look very, very good. They look good. Any other team. This is a blowout, huh?
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Any other team.
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The Ravens are playing outside the Buffalo Bills. This is a blowout game. Now, common sense isn't always common in the middle of this game. About an hour and 30 minutes ago, I don't know if Ash was able to put it up. I tweeted out something. I tweeted out some. I said, the Ravens look good, but it's a lot of gay. It's a lot of. There it is right there. I don't care if you can see it. The Ravens look good, but it's a lot of game left. And for some reason, what should be a blowout normally ends closer than you could think it. And that's exactly what happened. Not only did it end closer than ever think, I didn't think they would come back and win it. They came back and won the whole damn game. I knew it would be close. But win it. I. Man, listen, the football gods won. Buffalo side, obviously, this costly fumble, which the Ravens always happen to do at the most opportune times.
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Inopportune.
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Inopportune time. My bad. My bad. My bad. Bad. But listen, this is. This is. This is a testament to how you ended the season last year.
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Yep.
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A game of this magnitude having a costly turnover yet again.
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Yep. The Ravens offense look good. Their defense, they didn't get no pressure.
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Yeah.
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Can't get pressure with four, and the secondary isn't good. Now, I don't know what's going on with Jai Alexander Ocho, but he looked bad tonight. Let's call it like. Let's call it like we see it. Ocho night. That's what we do. He did not look good tonight. And they were saying he had issues going on with his leg, with his knee. I don't know if he had a drain. I don't know if it's bone on bone. I don't know if he has tendonitis, but he didn't look good tonight. Yeah, he did not look good. Wiggins, he broke up to play on the two point conversion, but pass interference, bro. You got to do better. You got to do a better job of defending the guy without interfering with the guy. But the biggest issue I see with them, they can't generate pressure.
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Yeah.
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They can't get pressure with four. If Mattabique didn't get. Don't get home. I mean, tonight, it just wasn't. They. I mean, look, Buffalo. Buffalo is a good team. And so I. I don't. I. I'm not going to diminish what Buffalo did. Buffalo did a great job of. Of staying in this ball game. But I thought I was like, well, damn, okay, they get the ball back and give Ed Oliver credit because he got him stopped. He said, well, I got you stop. Let me see if I can get the ball out. And he pulled a slot and he got forced. He got three sevens and the boss came out. Give Buffalo credit, but the Ravens are going to kick themselves. John Harbaugh says, hey, guys, I'm proud of you guys. You fought hard. But he know they let this one slip away. He. And it's on the defensive side of the football. They got to be better because everybody that they. Look, everybody don't. Doesn't have a. A Josh Allen that can kill you with his legs and his arms. But these quarterbacks in the AFC can light your ass up with their arms. Josh Allen had 394. Yes, 394. He had 46 pass attempts. Oo with one sack.
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That's crazy.
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Lamar Jackson had 19 pass attempts and he got sacked twice. And. And it took him a Houdini effort to get out of one one.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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So I'm concerned with the Ravens defense. I have no concerns whatsoever with their offense. I know Derrick Henry would do a better job of holding on to the football. Lamar Jackson is going to be Lamar Jackson. I love Z. Flowers. I wish they could have worked. No, no, Bateman. I wish they could have. Look, Dehop. D. Hop's going to give you a couple of a contest catch a couple contested catches. That's what he's going to do. Ocho, we. We're not looking to get DeAndre Hopkins of Houston, Texas. DeAndre Hopkins of the Arizona Cardinals because he's not there anymore. He doesn't live at that place anymore. And it's okay to say that, right? I wish they could have got Rashawn Bateman involved a little bit more. Zay Flowers was sensational tonight. Sam for a buck 43 and one touchdown on nine targets. I wish they could have got Bateman a little bit more involved. D. Hop's going to give you one to two catches. That's all we can hope for. They're going to be contested. That's what we brought. That's what they brought him in there for. Defensively is where they're going to have to. Where they're going to have to improve. Ojo. They're going to have to find a way to generate pressure with four because they're back in. Yeah, they're back in those corners.
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Yeah. Hey, I think, if, if anything, I think more so. They played a bad game, man. The backing has always been good. Nate Wiggins was good last year. Marlon Humphrey's older than Mar Humphrey. If we can get Jair Alexander, who's coming off an injury obviously he who's coming off an injury to get himself back acclimated, you know. Hey, did he. Did Jair even play in the preseason?
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I don't know. I don't think so. I don't think so. So I don't think a whole lot of people played in the preseason.
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Exactly. So he getting himself back acclimated after coming off injury, not really playing much last year. Getting himself back into rhythm. Getting himself back into act actually football shape.
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Yeah. But. But in the process, oh, you'll hear the thing. I can't be losing game while you working your way back in the football.
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Right, right, right. So obviously what they have to do, they got to Protect him up. They got to protect him. If anything, put, listen, put him in press. He's very good at man to man. He, Jair Alexander, that's what he's known for. He's very good at man to man. And don't expose him. Don't have him playing off at seven yards when you know he's not where you need to be. Get him up there, allow him to throw the time into the offense off until he gets himself back. Right?
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Yeah, I, I, I, I, I was just, and I was like, damn Ravens normally get, get a little bit more pressure than that. And what's the guy he had, what's his name? Cal Van. I was like, come on, Kyle, somebody get some pressure.
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Hey, them big boy. Hey, Buffalo got them big boys. They did.
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Hey, they did a good look. They neutralized it. They look and they made them one dimensional once they fell behind you. They're not going to run the football. The Ravens, they had rush 31 rush attempts, 108 yards. You can live with that. That's less than four yards of carry. That's three and a half yards of carry. I can live with that.
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Right?
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But what I can't live with is a quarterback drop back 46 times and only get him on the ground once. That's not good enough. That's not, that's not, no, seriously, that's not nearly good enough. They played well enough to win, but all, all turnovers aren't created equal when you turn the ball over. Jerk. Henry has that fumble in the first quarter is no harm, no fou lo. But when he had that. We've got the momentum now we give Buffalo a chance to get the momentum, get some momentum. And now they start hooping and hollering like they caught the Holy Ghost on fourth Sunday. And now the crowds, now the crowds in two of it.
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Hold on. What? What? Sunday.
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Four Sunday. But give look, they could have easily, easily folded, hung their heads. Yes. We're down 15 and the Ravens, we know what the Ravens possess. Derek Henry is running up and down the field, up and down the field. They can't. I mean, he's getting four. He's getting 15, he's getting 30. He's getting 51. I mean, he's at. We. I was like, and I was like, well, damn. What is it about the Buffalo Bills that Derrick Henry loves so much?
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It's not even the Buffalo Bills. It's whoever the hell Derek Henry plays against. He's done this against everybody. I don't know. Derrick Henry rarely turns the Ball over every so often he's gonna get a fumble. This time it happened week one when it actually shouldn't. Coming off of what happened last year on why you went home for missing a Super bowl opportunity. There should be no turnovers. That should be the first thing coming in in preseason in training camp. We can't turn the ball over. And you're playing the same goddamn team again. That cost you a chance to go.
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To the AFC championship game.
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Come on now.
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Oh, but what happened was, is that they got him in a predict. They got him. He's trying to stiff arm. So if you got a stiff arm, that means what? You ain't got both arms over the ball. Both arms over the ball. So now there's a chance.
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Line of scrimmage. There's no need to use a stiff arm.
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But here, no. Yes, there was. He got pressure. He got pressure. He. And so now he's trying to stiff arm Ed Oliver off of him to try to get to the outside. Yeah, I mean, looking at it now, o just go down. Yeah, but you know that's not how he's wired, right?
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You're right, you're right, you're right, you're right.
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I said the same thing when Jar Har Alexander got beat. I said, let him score. You got three timeouts. Let him score. You got three timeouts. You got a minute on the clock. Let's see what Lamar Jackson can do with spread right.
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With enough time once.
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Once. Because Baltimore's got to burn their timeouts now. And all, all Baltimore is going to do is go, hey, Prater, they already know. The special team coaches already tell the head coach where the kicker likes to kick from. If you see Josh Allen, hey, he goes to that side, downs the ball, goes to that side, downs the ball. Okay, on third down, he goes to that side again. There's 27 seconds. He runs off the field. You normally can get your, your offense off the field. Your special teams unit on the field. We would always practice 18 seconds. They got a full 27 seconds. So now pray to get some opportunity to go back there and go through his motion. He doing all that on the field. He got plenty of time. Be like, yeah, hey, I ain't rushing nothing. This is good right here, baby. Woo. Appreciate that. And go. He nails it through. You don't. A lot of times you have to. You have to have the foresight because a lot of times guys are not thinking in that moment. Jari Alexander has panicked, man, I can't give up a touchdown. When in actuality It'd be best if you did give up the touchdown because now you got a minute, a minute plus left and you got all three of your timeouts.
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But that's, that's. That's something they, that would. They would have talked about before. That would have been something they would have talked about ahead of time. Obviously. I mean, I mean, I'm not. I forgot the D coordinator's name. Or Harbaugh would have told. What. Told the defense.
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Or, or if.
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If they happen to make a big play, let him score, let him get in. Obviously they didn't say anything. That's why he tried to tackle Keon.
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Normally, Ocho, you talk about that close to the goal line, right? You say, okay, hey, just let him score.
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Right? You're right.
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You're not. First of all, you're not thinking they're going to get a big play. So once they got the big play the next day, you panic. Ocho, it's just like anything Steve Irwin, right? When he got stung by that stingray.
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Yes, sir.
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His natural instinct was what? To pull it out. That was the last thing he should have did. But see, you're not thinking. Something goes in, I got to get it out, Ocho.
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Right, right, right, Right away. Right away. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
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So now he gets a long pass caught on him. He's not thinking, man. I still. I got three times. My team got three timeouts.
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Just let him scope.
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He not. You're not thinking about that. But like you said, those are scenarios that you probably need to go through also go through your mind. Hey, tip pass. I mean, one time we play in Kansas City, Ocho and John threw me a ball. I lost like 8 yards. But it was more important to keep the clock moving as opposed to an incompletion and stopping the clock, right? So the ball got kicked. I'm like, hey, I gotta catch this. Even though it's, hey. Now all of a sudden I only got like 50 yards. I only got like 50 yards. But man, this was a hell of a ball game. Yeah, this was a hell of a ball game, man.
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Listen, there's a reason why they had them slated to play as a 7:30 game or 8:30 game, depending on where you live from. Because it was everything that was advertised. It was everything that was advertised based on what we saw last season, right? It a bit. Listen, I actually. All the goddamn games was good today, depending on who you had.
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I would say all of them was good. I would say all.
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I mean, it depends. It depends. It depends. There. There was some Trash games. But this, this was perfect to end the night.
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Yeah, yeah, this, this was a very good game. You got two heavyweight quarterbacks, the last two MVPs going head to head. They. Hey, nobody wants to give an inch. You got Derrick Henry running the ball. Look like he's well on his way to another two. Hell, I thought he was going for two bands. I thought he was going for two, two bills today. I thought he was going. Yeah, I thought he was going for two bills today. Cuz, you know, oo, it's just like we play a receiver, we get that big catch early. Hey, oh, we got, hey, we get big. We got 70 yards on three catches. Yeah. And we're in the first quarter.
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Hold on. And this is the funny thing about it too. Forget, forget the first quarter. When you get those chunk yards and chunk plays and have that many yards at the beginning of the season and week one to get the ball rolling. Yes, man, stop playing.
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You know, you, that's how I'm thinking and I'm sure Derek Henry was thinking the same thing. The offensive line is thinking the same thing. Oh, we got a great rhythm because all of a sudden they tossing him the ball and he's coming through there. It ain't nothing but a safety and the safety is taking an effed up angle. The safety ain't really. He tried to hit him from the angle and I was really trying to be in front of you.
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That was trapped.
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Yeah, that was trapped with that boat.
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He took that bad angle on purpose.
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Of course. Yes, of course. That's what I'm saying. I'm coming at an angle.
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Yes, man. Who trying to on a toss. Everybody locked up. The guard or the, the guard pull and get the linebacker and it's just you and who the hell finna hit Derrick Henry? I'm making a business decision.
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Hey, and you see, he already got, he got the concussion cap already on. He said I need a pill. Hey, as a matter of fact, somebody throw me a pillow. I need a pillow. And the concussion cap.
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Matter of fact, I can, I can guarantee you, I can guarantee I'm with everybody that's in the chat that's listening. Imagine, hypothetically speaking, if you had the opportunity to play safety. I guarantee you, nobody. There's no amount of money that a team could pay anybody in our chat to be a safety and meet Derek Kearney one on one in the hole.
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Nah, because he got ahead of steam. The thing what you want to do, Ocho, is make him go east and west. You don't want to Get. You don't want him to get him. Shoulder pads coming downhill, north and north going north. That's 240. 245, please. Nah, hell nah. He got a head of steam. No, I'm trying to get you before you turn those shoulder pads square. I'm trying to get you going laterally. As long as I got you going laterally, that's cool.
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I'm trying to get you before you can get to the line of scrimmage. Forget that.
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They toss that ball and you see that hole open up. Okay, here comes the tight end. He pinned. He pinned somebody. Here come a the fullback. He leading up in there. And he kicks out the. He turns back on the linebacker. Nah, hell nah. I don't want no part of that. And those are the decisions. But I think I look, this was a very good. This was the best game of the day thus far. We'll see what Minnesota and Chicago do last night. It's gonna have to be hard pressed to. To top this one because you got 41, you got. You got 4140, and you got two quarterbacks playing at their absolute best. Lamar Jackson was sensational. Josh Allen just so happens to had the ball. Had the ball last.
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Yes. Yeah.
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And that's what you want to do. You want to say, hey, give me the ball. All I want is the ball in my quarterback's hands with a chance to win the game.
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Yeah.
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That's all I can ask for. It doesn't matter if it's Lamar Jackson, if it's Joe Burrow, if it's Patrick Mahomes, if it's Josh Allen, all you want is that opportunity. I want my quarterback to have the ball with a chance to win the game.
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Yeah.
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We need a touchdown. We need a field goal. I have the utmost confidence. Josh Allen has a ton of confidence. He always has. But now he knows he's an elite company. He has an mvp. He has an mvp, but he knows in order to get to that, that, that, that, that, that tier, that. Take that next step, Ocho.
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Yeah.
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Can you imagine? Super bowl winning mv, super bowl mvp. Right. Regular season mvp.
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Yeah.
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That's when Brady started separating himself. Now all of a sudden, he got super bowl and he got regular season Mahomes, super bowl and regular season Rogers. That's what the greats do. Josh Allen was sensational tonight.
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Yeah, he was.
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He was absolutely phenomenal.
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With a little help with. With a little help from the Ravens. He was.
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Sometimes I gotta have that, Ocho. I need that. But here's the thing. He got to help. How many times have you helped somebody but they didn't help themselves? How many times did we come on here? OO the game was for the taking.
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Yeah.
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And the team didn't take it.
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Right.
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If you open the door, remember the movie centers.
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Yeah.
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In order for the vampires to come in, what you have to do, you had to offer, you had to ask them to come in, you had to let them in.
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Yes, sir.
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How many times have the door been open and the opportunity for you to come in? Right. And no. And everybody just stood there. So the Ravens opened the door and they invited them in. And Buffalo says, okay, yeah, we'll take it. We coming on in your house.
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Listen, any, any other team. I'm trying to think. Any other team, if you, you take the Bills out and, and, and the Ravens put up 40 points, there may be maybe one or two teams that I can think of that have the quarterback or have the personnel to actually come back in a game like that.
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You're absolutely right.
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Maybe two other teams. That's about it. Other than that, ain't nobody, nobody else coming. Coming back. And. And, and doing. We. I have a question, too. I got a question for you. I know the magnitude and importance of the game is not as significant as this one was, but does this compare in any way to that 283 comeback in that Super Bowl? I'm not comparing. I mean, I know it's, you know, it's week one. I'm not comparing week one in the Super Bowl. I mean, just come back. Is it just as big or big?
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This. This. Oh, that's. I mean, I mean, 28. 3.
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Yeah.
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I mean, the biggest. At that point in time, the, the biggest lead had ever been was like a 10. Nothing was to come back from 10. Nothing.
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Right.
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Or 10 or. The Patriots came back from 10 down in the fourth quarter. They came back from 25.
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Well, hey, hold on now. They score 16 points in four minutes. Huh? This ain't. It's real life. The Bills tonight.
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Yes. Yes.
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16 points in four minutes.
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That.
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That's not even. That's. That's video game stuff. So many things have to go right for you to score 16 points in four minutes.
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What. What went right is that after the own first down, Derrick Henry fumbled the ball that little time, so you didn't get the full allotment of time. They didn't make. They didn't make Buffalo burn any of their timeouts on that possession. So now once you get the ball back, now they don't have any timeouts and you can let time run off the clock and on your next possession.
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Right.
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But n. Josh. Josh was sensational. Give Buffalo credit. Give him credit where it's due. They earned this one. Buffalo. I mean, excuse me, the Ravens. You, you kicking yourself. I know you're kicking yourself, but, but I mean the Ravens. I mean, if you. The 9 minutes more time of possession. Oo for the Buffalo. They had 10 more first downs, third down efficiency one. Buffalo was 7 of 15. Baltimore was 7 of 11. But defensively is where the Ravens going to have to get better. They gave up 500 yards of offense. They gave up 500 yards of offense. Just because Derrick Henry fumble, that doesn't mean you have to let him score. I'm just, that, I'm just throwing that at. That's food for thought.
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Yeah.
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Just because somebody fumbled you, you could say, you know what y' all kick. Y' all getting a field goal. You ain't getting a touchdown. Or you get nothing or you can take the ball away, you can take it back away. So this notion that, oh, you know, Derek Henry fumble. Yes. Derrick Henry fumble, he'll do a better job. He'll have better ball security next time. And in that situation, sometimes it's just better to go ahead and drop live to see another day. I had a coach used to tell me all the time let's stuck on my position coach in the mid-90s, 93 and 94. He say, he say, sweet. Call me sweetheart. He say, sweetheart, you got to know when the journey's over sometimes. D. Henry, I understand. You got to know when the journey is over. It's okay to sometime to get out of bounds. It's okay. OO to say, you know what? Hey, drop to the ground, man. Come on. Nah, nah. In that situation, the only, only bad can come out of that. Nothing good could come out of that. That's why you say, well, he. He shouldn't step up. That's what he. I mean, how many times have we seen him use that stiff arm? Just in this game, right? Remember on that long, that first long touchdown run, what did he do? Get up off me, shove the guy to the ground.
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Yeah.
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So in that situation, man, but this was a barn burner. This was a great game. Congratulations. Buffalo Bills hard fought victory. Scored 22 points in the fourth quarter. Outscored Baltimore 226 in the fourth. And they win the ball game 41 40. Ms. Pat also ocho, remember Baltimore, Mr.
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Pat it up right.
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Bounced away now they would have. Now a field goal only ties you.
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Yeah.
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You go into overtime.
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So right. But boy, that was that. What a bar. What a barn burner of. Of a game. Oh yo. The Ravens had a 99.1% win probability. Up 40 to 25. With less than five minutes to go in the first game is the reigning NFL MVP. Josh Allen went 33 of 46, three 394, two touchdown, 394 yards, two touchdowns and he also had 14 carries for 30 yards. Two more scores right now. Yeah, he's the early. He's the, you know, he showed why he won the award. He's going to be off AFC offensive player of the week.
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Right.
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And he's, you know, I think like the, a lot of sites had Lamar as the favorite, but Josh Allen ain't going nowhere.
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No, listen, it's, it's all going to come down to all the way towards the end because they're going to be making these kind of plays all season long regardless of they playing. And I think the funny thing about it, when I think about the Ravens and we talk about the defense, most of the time the defense is always ahead of the offense. Huh. Because all the defense have to do. They have to read and react. I think one of the few. The, the Ravens might be one of the few teams with the offense and, and, and the Bills as well. The offense is ahead of the defense because the people they have at the quarterback position. Yeah.
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But.
C
Because they have at the quarterback position.
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But if you look at it, this is an offensive team. Your best players, your best player, Lamar Jackson, he's on offense. Your second best player, Derek Henry, he's on offense. You're probably your Fourth or fifth best player, if he's not third, Zay Flowers. He's on offense, so naturally. So of your top 10 players, probably three of the top five or on the offensive side of the football. With that being said, this is not good enough. Ravens, defensively, I know it's one game. I know it's one game. But a lot of these quarterbacks, you got Joe Burrow. He can throw the ball. He struggled today. No, but here's the thing.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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Here's the thing.
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Go ahead. We get to that. Go ahead.
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But the Ravens don't have a. Miles Garrett, the Steelers, that quarterback, I don't know if y' all saw him today, what he did in the Meadowlands. He can throw the ball. Patrick Mahomes can throw the ball.
C
Yeah.
B
Justin Herbert can throw the ball. Really? If you don't. If you do not pressure these quarterbacks, they will light you up. And look at the receivers that Burrow has. Look at the receivers that Justin Herbert's going to be playing with. You saw what, what, what? Aaron Rodgers. So it's got. Hey, I'm just saying. They're gonna have to go back to the drawing board. Lamar got into it. That somebody threw a drink on Derrick Henry. And then you saw Lamar get into it. The fans shoved him, and Lamar shoved him back. Just be careful. Just be careful, Lamar. Just be careful.
C
The fan got to be careful. You can't. You can't reach out to Sanders, touch the players. You can't. You can't do. Yeah, you can't do that.
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But it ain't. It ain't worth just getting a lawsuit. It ain't worth it, Ocho, because even. Even if they throw it out, guess what you got to do? You got to have an attorney to defend it. Take it for somebody to know. So just, Just, just. Lamar. I'm just saying. I understand. Look, fans, keep your hands. Keep your hands inside the wall unless that's your player.
C
Yeah.
B
Hey, Lamar, Just. Just be careful. That's all I'm gonna say. Just be careful. Ocho. The Steelers went on the road, beat the Jets 34, 32. Aaron Rodgers threw four touchdown passes. If I'm not mistaken, it's his first game with four touchdown passes and no interceptions since 20, 21. Aaron Rogers threw four touchdown passes in his Steelers debut. Rogers. After the game, they were probably people in the organization that didn't think I could play anymore, so it was nice to remind those people that I still can. I'm just happy to be everybody associated.
C
With the Jets Yeah.
B
Were you surprised how well Aaron Rodgers looked today?
C
Well, I wasn't surprised obviously based on the team he's at, where he is, what he has to work with. Offensively, the Steelers, obviously their identity is their defense. Even though they looked okay because the goddamn. Jess and Justin Fields, they were playing some ball today, boy. Yes, hey, Justin Fields and the boy were playing some ball today. But I'm happy for Aaron. He DK Metcalf, they had very, very, very good chemistry. Very good chemistry. He caught some, he's caught some good balls. And outside of that, I mean they look really good. And this is what, what I really expected for the Steelers to have a quarterback that is four time mvp, super bowl winning quarterback and putting, putting the right pieces around him and all he has to do is do what's asked of him and don't turn the ball over. Just don't turn the ball over and you will always have a chance. And that's, that's exactly what they had today. That's what, that's exactly what they had today. Let, let defense take care everything.
B
And again. What happened? It was a turnover.
C
Yeah.
B
Remember the fumble?
C
Hey.
B
Look, we know Aaron Rodgers can have games like this. He looked like the old Aaron Rodgers. Not an old Aaron Rodgers. The old Aaron Rodgers. 22 or 32, 44, four touchdowns. Just got after him a little bit. Got him, sacked him four times. Did a great job of neutralizing the run. Only 50 yards on 20 carries. Then you go to the other side. Justin Fields look really, look played really well today. 16 to 22, 218, one touchdown. They had 182 rushing.
C
Yeah.
B
But when you get a situation like that, you got to kill the net with a sledgehammer.
C
Yes.
B
You, you, you can't leave a team with these type quarterbacks. You can't let them hang around, don't you. They'll find a way to beat you every time. You can't. When you get a team down and they got a great quarterback on that side of the football, Rogers can still beat you. Josh Allen can beat you. Mahomes, these guys, they can beat you. You better put them away when you get a chance.
C
But the funny thing, if you leave.
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Them hanging around, Ocho.
C
Okay, but the funny thing about it, when teams get in a situation where you can kill an ant with a sledgehammer, everything gets conservative, right? Play calling gets conservative because now I don't want to be responsible for the loss as opposed to let's keep our foot in the pedal and just kill him right away. But no, every. Every time. On every single time. Which is why I tweeted what I tweeted tonight while the Ravens and Bills are playing. Every time, Listen, it looks like a blowout, but for some reason, in every football game, the play calling, mistakes, they get conservative things happen. Fumbles, interception. And for some reason, the game always ends closer and than what it should be.
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You know, you turn the ball over you, you give the Packers a short field, and next thing you know, the game is. Is boom, boom, boom.
C
Yeah.
B
Give Jalen Ramsey credit. He got. You can't go low, Jalen. Now you can't take out the lead blocker by taking out his knees. They won't allow you to do that on the defensive side of football. You used to could, but you can't do that anymore. But he says, okay, don't worry about it. I'll make up for it.
C
He did.
B
I'll make a point. He dropped the hammer on Garrett Wilson. I think the thing is, you gotta. You gotta know that guys over there. Ocho.
C
Yeah.
B
Because what, what are they trying not to do? Ocho let you out of bounds. So if they're not gonna let you out of bounds, what does that mean? Somebody's close to the sidelines and the.
C
Sidelines and keeping everything inside.
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And so now her Ram see him, hey, let me get some bold barbecue sauce because I'm gonna put some sauce on the ribs.
C
That was it.
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And that's what happened.
C
That was the text. That was a textbook tackle too, now.
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Textbook.
C
That was teach tape teaching tape on how to tackle and not get no flag. That was nice.
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That was. That was a. That was an unbelievable play by an unbelievable, unbelievable player. But I thought, I thought Justin Field showed great poise, did a great job. He's only sacked once. The tackle got beat really bad. He got beat really, really quick. And I think because I thought they had something on that plate, looking at it, they had. They had something. If the court, if the tackle doesn't get beat so quick, high Smith beats him clean. And Fields really doesn't even get a chance, really gets a chance to do much of anything. But I was impressed with Rogers. Now, I didn't know. I'm not going to sit here and tell you I saw four touchdowns and no turnovers. 22 or 30. No. I knew they were going to try to run, to try to establish the run.
C
Right.
B
But that's why you got a guy like Rogers, because if we can't run it, we feel comfortable. If we can protect him, he can make plays. He can still make plays off his back foot. He, he still can roll out the pocket and throw with pinpoint accuracy. He still has those capability. He's not as elusive as he once was. Hey, we're not the same people at, at 20. At 30 we were at 25. We're not the same people at 35. We were at 30. Rogers is what, 40, 41 years of age. He's definitely not the same person. Athletic, athletically. Athletically as he was in his 30s.
C
Right.
B
But his arm, his ability to change arm slots, his ability to move on the run, to throw on the run. Now you don't have the foot speed he wants dead. Ojo. He's not gonna really beat you like he once could with his legs. But his arm is still dangerous. Yeah, his arm is still very, very dangerous.
C
Very much.
B
I didn't see the four touchdowns. If somebody would have told me, could I see 244. Yeah, but I don't think either team is really happy. One team gave up 34, the other team gave up 32. Not if, hey, if I give up 32 and I win, I'm happy. But there were some concerning things that I saw. But I thought, but if, I think if you're Mike Tomlin, you're like, okay, I think we found our quarterback. And you look at the receiver, you look at DK doing what he did. You look at Calvin Austin, the third. Friarmouth had a big play, scaronic catches. He's normally a special teams maven came from. I think he was at the Rams. That's where I remember him from. I don't know if he was. Came from there last year or a couple years ago, but I remember him at the Rams as a special team maven. Caught a touchdown, recovered a fumble. But I like, I, I like what I saw from the jets there, there's some positives.
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Absolutely.
B
There's some positives that you can take out of this. You're just like, man, we, we, we had it. Yeah, but you give up 17 points just like the Ravens gave up 22 points. You gave up 17 points in the fourth quarter. Yeah, you, you, you, you can't, you're not going to win, you're not going to win very many games giving up that, that kind of in the fourth quarter. But the Steelers, the Steelers, the Steelers play well. Look, Steelers are 1 and O in that division. Cincinnati 1 and 0. And you got Cleveland, Baltimore at the bottom of division at both 0 and 1. It's early. One game in the season, one game does not make a Season, win, lose or draw. But I, I, I definitely like teaching after a win, then I do a loss.
C
Yes, sir.
B
Now, I might have your undivided attention, more so after a loss than a win, but I like teaching after a win.
C
So.
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Stevens, what you thinking? How many, how many wins? 10? 11.
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Steelers?
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12. Yeah.
C
Oh, that's, that's a good one. Just off the, off the quarterback alone, if he can be consistent and not turn the ball over and show us vintage signs of old Aaron Rodgers, old Green Bay Packers Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, they could, they could win. Win more than that, huh? Especially if the defense carries him. Because the defense is our identity now. The defense is their identity. I, I, I got them Winning More than 10. More than 10, easily. No, no, I'm saying if it all comes down to your quarterback. If you look at the league, you look at the landscape of the league, of the team that are always successful year in and year out, what's the common denominator on what each one of those teams have? They have a competent quarterback that puts them in the best situations to win weekend and week out. And that's something that the Steelers have now, which is why Common had no problem going to get Aaron Rodgers. We don't need you to be Aaron Rodgers down there in goddamn Green Bay. We don't need that. If we can give flashes of brilliance every so often and you do what we ask of you and don't turn the ball over, we can hand it off from time to time to take some of the pressure off of you. Dk, make the plays. Calvin Austin iii, you make your plays. Fr. How you say his last name?
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Friarmouth.
C
Yeah, Fryermouth. Make your plays. We gonna be fine. Let the defense do all the heavy lifting.
B
Yeah, I mean, I like what I saw with dk. Did a great job of getting the ball in his hands. He dropped one early and then he came back and made two spectacular plays. Turned on the afterburners like they got out down the sideline. I saw Calvin Austin catch a touchdown. He played, he played well today. Fry mouth. When given the opportunity, he did what he does. Skonic, they slept on him, did the run the over route. Know Rogers like to throw the ball outside the pocket.
C
Oh yeah.
B
They're like they don't have a problem putting him on the move. He does a great job because if you roll him to the left, he can open his hips up and still make get to completion. A lot of right, a lot of the right handed quarterbacks are left handed. Quarterbacks that have to roll right or Right handed quarterback that got to roll left. It's an awful lot to throw on the move because you got to open your hips up, especially if it's not like a comeback where the guy, you know, you, you roll in that way and you just throw it. But sometimes you got to open your hips, and I think Rogers does that as good as anybody that's ever, ever played the game. I like what I saw from the Pittsburgh Steelers. Excuse me? I like what I saw from the Steelers. I like Justin Fields. I like what I saw today. I, I, I can. If I, if I'm ag. I'm going six on a. I know you disappointed that we didn't win, but there's no question in my mind, you showed a lot of improvement. You showed a lot of growth today. We can win a lot. Would you play it like you played today, son? We can win a lot of football games. We can win a lot of football games. So Steelers go to 1 and O, jets fall to 0 and 1. 34, 32. You know, Rogers had something to prove. You know, hey, hey, you, you, you didn't want me. You didn't think I can play. Say, I want to beat everybody that's associated. You know, he gave it a little bit. Hey, he's like, hey, y' all got something for me Walking off the field today? He, he would, I think he was walking next to Cam Hayward. He like, y, y' all got something for me? Y' all look, y, y', all, y', all, y' all look so. But like I said, I think the jets, that division is Buffaloes. Yeah, it's Buffalo. Miami look horrible on both sides of the ball.
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Oh, don't do that, don't do that, don't do that.
B
Oh, they look horrible.
C
Don't do that, don't do that, don't do that.
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No, they did that. I didn't do nothing.
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The packers beat the Lions 27 13. Jordan Love threw a pair of touchdowns and Michael Parson had a second his Green Bay debut. The packers delivered an exceptional defensive performance after Getting out scored 99 to 40 in the first half of the NFC north games last year. The packers got points on their opening three possessions. Ocho, you like the packers to be favored in the NFC north now?
C
Man, heck, hell yeah. Boy, you see them boys today? Boy, you see Jordan. Jordan Love dealing Golden Hicks Dobbs.
B
Yep.
C
Reed was. Josh Jacob was trying to, you know, get loose a little bit. You know, he wasn't able to go crazy. Defensively, the packers look good too. You know, they can. They contain Jameer Gibbs. He didn't have a. A huge game.
B
They.
C
They contain Montgomery. They didn't have a huge game. But I see a team, especially from an offensive standpoint like the Detroit Lions. They gonna be all right. They gonna be all right. But what I'm seeing from the packers this early in the season is. Is. Is phenomenal. Jordan Love was willing and dealing all game long. All game long.
B
They didn't have a ton of plays. No, I mean, they had. I mean, 45 actual plays, so they might have had 50 total plays if you count the penalty stuff. Ocho.
C
Yeah.
B
When you look at. Jordan Love was 16 to 22, 188, two touchdowns. They only had 25 rush attempts for 78 yards. The packers did a tremendous job getting off the. Jerry Goff. He's not mobile, so we know where he's going to be right there. He ain't going nowhere.
C
Gonna be right there.
B
So they didn't run the ball. Montgomery couldn't get anything going. Gibbs couldn't get anything going. You know, Gibbs had 10 reception for 31 yards along of seven. That. That's not what you use. You get. You need. You need Amara, you need Jameson, you need J Mo. They need. They're there. J mode to stretch the field. Amon ra to. To keep the chains moving. And then we'll scream past you, we'll swing it to one of the backs out of the backfield. Laporta. They needed to get more out of him, but they did. Hey, Green Bay was swarming today.
C
They got.
B
After they got. They got at them today, right? Rashan Gary, he talked. We had him on the show. Oo He's. I'm having a big year. Well, he got somebody that he gonna send the double at him, so he's gonna get a lot of one on one.
C
Yeah, absolutely.
B
And everybody don't got tackles like, like Panayul and, and, And I think. Who's the other tackle over there?
C
I forgot who's on the left side?
B
Is it Decker, the starting left tackle for Detroit? Is it Taylor? Is it Taylor Decker? Yeah. Everybody don't got tackles like that.
C
No.
B
And then you got those guys. You got what? Hey, they can bring pressure from a lot of different areas. Van Ness, Wyatt.
C
It look good. And you know what you think, you talk about all the things that we used to see in Detroit doing. The Detroit offense is so explosive because they're able to establish the run. They. They able to establish run, but not being able to establish a run today and get Those chunk plays, 6, 7 yards here, having them forcing. Forcing Detroit to maybe have to, I mean, forcing the package and maybe have to drop a safety down in the box.
B
Yeah.
C
For a little help. So it eliminates everything else you want to do on the back end because you can't get nothing going on the front end.
B
Yeah. You need to establish the run, Ocho. For the simple fact I don't have a mobile quarterback.
C
Right.
B
I don't have a mobile quarterback. So if the play break down. See, here's the thing. A lot of these quarterbacks you need now moving for moving forward. What you're starting to see, you need guys at the quarterback position get off script. So if I, if I call something, even if I don't call the perfect play.
C
Right.
B
He can get me out of that play with his legs.
C
Yeah.
B
He can get me out of there and buy me time. Because a lot of times, can a guy get off sheet, Can a guy get away from the play that you call and make something out of it? So if I just give you this ingredients, can you make something tasty with the ingredients that I gave you or can he use like, man, I, I don't worry about this. I got something better. Hey, listen, that's not what Jerry go feel. We know who and what Jerry go feel. He can throw the ball. Oo, yeah. But he ain't making no plays. That's off script.
C
Yeah. I mean, listen, they're, they're, they're. They're a handful of quarterbacks where a coach can call and play and he sees something completely different and he can make out of nothing.
B
Yes.
C
Call the right defense. But damn, now we stuck.
B
Yes.
C
I've used my legs making something out of nothing. There are very few that can do it.
B
True. Detroit's offense failed to score touchdown through three quarters, which hadn't happened since 2023, Week 7 at Baltimore. And that was my concern, Ocho. Okay, you got the same guys, but they're not. Ben Johnson, the guy that's calling plays now, he didn't go audition for a head coaching job.
C
Right.
B
He's never been. He's never auditioned. He's never been a head coach before. He's never been an offensive coordinator before.
C
Right, right.
B
So you're asking someone, you put someone in a position, and I'm not saying that he can't be good or he won't be good in the future, but I'm saying it's gonna. You, you gotta have some growing pains. I mean, I, I've never seen a kid be able to just all of a sudden grow from walking, I mean, go from crawling to walking without falling and busting his butt or her butt or hitting his head on. That's just a part. That's just a part of walking.
C
Right.
B
So a part of calling plays when you've never done it is to go through trial and error, to go through growing pains. And they're going to have some of these in Detroit, Ocho. They are. You lost both you boss, your DC and your OC it's going to be some growing pains. Yeah, it's going to be some growing pains. And do I think they'll figure it out? Yeah, I do. I think. I think they'll figure it out, but it's not going to be as smooth and as seamless as it. As it has been the last couple of years, that's for sure.
C
Right.
B
But, but I thought Green Bay defensively. Defensively, that's what. Look, I agree with you, Ocho. They can run the football. They got. Look, they got receivers that. I don't look at any of these guys that. Oh, man, I'm just. Oh, I ain't looking at none of these guys. Like I look at a chase, like I look at a. A Jetta.
C
Right?
B
Well, they can hurt you.
C
They can. And there is one. If, if. If he's all that he's been advertised to be in. Matthew golden, he's supposed to be similar to that, which is why they got him in the. In. In the first round.
B
Right.
C
He's a 42 guy. We weren't able to see that 42 today. He did make some plays, but I'm excited to see what they do with him going forward. Jaden Reed. Nice. All nice.
B
What scares you about him, Ocho, is that because from week to week, you don't know. See, you set your game plan. You're like, okay, we gotta take this guy away. We gotta take Chase away. We gotta take Jetta away. We gotta take CD away. There are certain guys, you go into the game, who you trying to take away?
C
Y' all know.
B
You don't.
C
You never know, guy. You never do. We get varies with them week to.
B
Week because there's not a whole lot of difference between Dobbs, Reed, Wicks. Ain't a whole lot of difference. Ocho, right? They all about this after, you know, and then Christian, he's not there. He's your speed merchant. He just can't stay healthy. He's phenomenal. I like him a lot, but he just can't stay healthy.
C
Yeah, he, he, he. He won't be back, what, till later in the season, Huh? I mean, way, way back. Because he tore his.
B
And you know, he had a. When you normally. Guys that have that kind of speed they normally have, they, they, they. They bound. They wound tight. So they normally have hamstring issues, right? He, he's battled a lot of hamstring issues.
C
Yes, sir.
B
But I did like what I saw from Green Bay. Offensively, even though they didn't do it, they didn't have a, A whole lot of plays. The stats don't jump off at you. They probably had, what, 260 yards, but you only gave up 13 points. And they gave up that on a spectacular catch. The guy caught the ball, one hand over outstretched. I could live with that. But Green Bay, defensively, those guys were hunting today.
C
They look good. Wow.
B
They were hunting today. And that's what you're going to need. You know, boy, I'm already chopping at the bed. I want to see week four.
C
Wait, week four? Dallas. You talk about Dallas and the Packers, Green Bay.
B
And Green Bay goes, hey, wait, I'm telling you, in Dallas.
C
They playing in Dallas.
B
They playing in Dallas.
C
Hey, let's go to the game.
B
We can't. I ain't going to the game. You can go.
C
No, I'm asking you, let's go to the game. So, I mean, we, we can. We can live stream the whole game. Me and you sitting there watching the game, chilling in the cr. In the stands like that's, that's, that's, you know. No, like a live broadcast. Uncle Nocho live it.
B
Pack. I ain't trying to do. I ain't trying to do five hours of tv.
C
It just n. I'm telling you, man, Ash man, talk to Unc, man.
B
It's. I'm sure, I'm sure they got some, some stuff drawn up for him to try to, you know, try to. But Michael gonna be, Michael gonna be coming. He believes, he believes there's not anybody on the defensive, on the offensive line that can block him.
C
Absolutely not. Hell, there ain't nobody on any defensive line that can actually block him on any other, other 31 teams.
B
So he gonna be, he gonna be, he gonna be chomping, chomping at the bit. I'm excited to see that game. But they look good today. Not just Micah, but the, the, the, the, the packers defense, defense in general. Quay Walker, Wyatt, Rashawn Gary, all those guys looked extremely well. They were, they were getting after. And, and it's easy to get. We. Look, when you become one dimensional, that's why everybody wants to try to establish some resemblance of a run game.
C
Yeah.
B
Once you become one dimensional and those guys like, okay, we're gonna play the run on the way to the quarterback.
C
It's a rap.
B
It's a rap. It is an absolute rap. And Green Bay looked good today. Just Jordan Love looked good today. 16 of 22, 188, two touchdowns. Look, Jerry Golf had 39 attempts. He had 225 yards. If you take the sack yards out, he had 200 yards passing on 39 pass attempts. He completed 31 passes. So that tells me there are a lot of check downs. Oo, yeah. You got 39 pass attempts and you ain't got more than 250 yards. You, you got 225 yards. So that means. Hey, that tells me you sure fishing. You ain't got nothing deep. All you doing is. Hey, you throwing a little cane pole out there?
C
Yep. He had, he had, he had to get the ball out early. Yeah, ball had to come out early. Went through progression. Okay. Boom, that's covers. Boom, that's covered that. Boom. That's cover. I got to get it down.
B
Yep. And well, the packers knew that once the packers got him down. Oo hey. And you can't run the ball, so they know you got to throw and they, and they know we know the ball got to come out quick. So. Hey, those guys did a great job today. What packers got. Got four sacks, countless pressures. Van Ness had a sack, had. Rashan Gary had a sack and a half. Van Ness had 05. Wyatt had a sack, had a sack. Yeah, yeah. So they, you know, they, they'll go and, and, and work it, work him in like we don't Want to. We don't want to stress him too much. The back. Know the back. And. And so we'll put more on his plate. He only. He played 29 snaps. 29 of the. Wow. He played 29 of the. 52. 53 total snaps. Excuse me. Counted. Counted snaps. That's a pretty good day. Yeah, had some pressures, had a sack.
C
But yeah, he has some good battles with Panet Soul, too.
B
Oh, yeah, you don't have that. Bengals beat the Browns 17 16. The Browns out gained the Bengals 327 to 141 and had the ball for nearly 36 minutes, but it wasn't enough. And this is why you need to find your quarterback. I don't know why y' all fooling with Joe Flacco. Y' all know Joe Flacco's not taking y' all anywhere. He's not your quarterback. Of your future. If I'm gonna lose, I'm gonna lose trying to find out who my quarterback is. That's just me. I don't care. I don't care if it's Gabriel. I don't care if it's your duel. I don't care who it is. I. I just know Joe Flacco at your quarterback.
C
It don't matter who was at the quarterback. It could have been Patrick Mahomes. It could have been. It could have been.
B
He missed the field. You missed the field goal and you missed the pat. So don't say that.
C
Let me finish. Let me cook. Let me cook. The Bengals won today. The Bengals won the day. 17, 16. The football gods were on our side. That's what happened today. That's what happened today. Every time the Bengals play the Cleveland Browns, the games are always like, this is sloppy. A lot of people look at the stat line. Oh, my God, Chase, he didn't have that many catches. Look how many yards he had. They look at T. Higgins. He'd have many catches. Look how many yards he had. Anytime you play the Brown defense, I've said this countless times on Nightcap, and people laugh at me. Oh, the Browns suck. The Browns have a very, very, very good defense. They match up very well with the Bengals offense. Their front forward, Mount Garrett, is. Is very good. What do they do to throw off the timing? You can't go quick game because all they're going to do is have Greg Newsome up and press, have Denzel Ward up and press, and there's no quick game because now, boom, you drop back to throw the ball. Miles Garrett is on Joe Burrow's ass.
B
And I told you he's gonna have two sacks, too.
C
Yeah, listen, you try to run. You try to run quick game. You can't run quick game because the. Because them two fools on the outside are really good at playing bump and run and is throwing off the timing of the offense. Y which is why the game looked the way it did today. And it's always like that when you play a divisional opponent that knows your tendencies. They're familiar with your offense, they're familiar with your players. It's it. It is what it is. It's always a tough game anytime we play them. Hell, I. It's been damn near 20 some years since I played. And our games was just like this. Against the Browns, It's.
B
Joe Flacco 31 or 45. 290. A touchdown, two picks.
C
Yeah, yeah, we had. We had some drops. We have. We have. We. I'm talking about. We. I'm sorry, I don't play for the Browns.
B
Two picks.
C
My receivers. My receivers in general, My receivers had some drops. We got to fix those things. We. We got to my receivers, regardless of what team you play for, we got to help our quarterback out. We got to help.
B
Oh, for sure.
C
That's it. That's it.
B
Yeah. But Cleveland, you know, and see, these are the type of games, Ocho, that gives you confidence. These are the kind of games you got to win.
C
Yeah.
B
You can't lose a game like this. You miss a pat, you miss a field. A field goal. I mean, this is what's frustrating, because if I'm on that team, I know Joe Flacco is not taking us anywhere. I know that. Everybody knows that.
C
He wasn't that bad today. You know, he was too.
B
He.
C
I'm a Bengal fan.
B
He wasn't.
C
He wasn't that bad.
B
He had two picks.
C
The picks were catches, were catchable balls that popped up in the air.
B
How about this here? The big. The Bengals had 159 yards. Let me take that back. Let me take that back. Let me take that back. Let me take that back.
C
Less than that, it might be.
B
No, no, no, no. This is the NFL game. Joe Burrow, who led the league in passing yards and touchdowns last year, they had 141 total yards.
C
Yeah. Yes, yes. Do we understand who they were playing? I get it. I understand it.
B
How many times do you think of the NFL team? You'll win a game and you have 141 total yards. How many games? So what we going to do starting this week?
C
Wait, wait, wait. Are Every week. Are. Are. Are the Cincinnati Bay on playing that, that, that Brown defense? Absolutely not. Because next week when we play and chase go for 200 and goddamn Tegan go for 150, then what? It's based on the personnel you have. That's why the game looked the way it did today.
B
I'm going. We going to chart how many games a team win when they have 141 or fewer yards. It don't matter what somebody else does. We're going to talk about the team.
C
Okay. Okay.
B
The 141. Not. Not if it's Chase. If it's just the Bengals. I'm talking about every team. How many teams will win a game when they have 141 yards of offense?
C
Not. Not many. Not many.
B
That's my point.
C
Not many.
B
That's all, that's all I'm saying.
C
Listen, listen. You, you, you. You played in tough divisions, especially AFC north. And you know how most of the time it's low scoring games is back and forth. Whoever makes the least mistakes normally wins those games. Normally.
B
I mean, if Cleveland say, you know what, Cincinnati only go score three points in the second half, right? Oh, you say we take that right? We are. We have. We have the ball. 11 more minutes. We're 9 of 16 on third down. We're 2 of 3 on fourth down. We have 22 more plays. We double them up on yardage. We average 4.6 yards per play. They average 2.9.
C
UNC, you understand too. UNC, you've been in the AFC. You know how.
B
I know how it is.
C
You know how it is. Especially. Listen. Ravens, Ravens, Steelers, Browns, Bengals. When they play, we know each other extremely well. It's like being married. And as a husband, you start a sentence and your wife can finish it off. Yes, they play each other. They know exactly what's coming. It's. It's nip and tuck. Whoever makes the. The least amount of stake mistakes in those games normally wins it. Sometimes it's low scoring, sometimes you get games that's high scoring, sometime very rare. But listen, we pulled this one off today, and all I can say is we want to know. And at the top of the division in the afc. Listen, the AFC north, you and Steelers, it run through Cincinnati.
B
Man. Baltimore, Baltimore. Baltimore gonna drop 1700 points on y'. All. Who Baltimore.
C
Well, you talk about you. About the Wire. The movie. The movie.
B
The movie the Ravens.
C
The movie was filmed in Baltimore. The movie the Wire was filmed in Baltimore. All I know was the Ravens are 01.
B
They won't be 01 against Cincinnati.
C
You want. You want to bet something?
B
Nope, I don't.
C
That's. Anybody else in the chat. If you want to bet Baltimore versus.
B
The Ravens.
C
Let me know.
B
He ain't gonna. Ain't gonna pay. He ain't gonna pay.
C
I'mma pay. I'mma pay as long as I owe them. They. They'll never be broke.
B
But I, I, I was. I'm not surprised.
C
Yeah.
B
How. Well, the big. The. The. The Browns defense, because I told you, Miles Garrett is going to be disruptive. They got no answer for him.
C
Well, hell, don't nobody got no answer for it.
B
Yeah, I mean, hey, Joe Burrow probably say he read. He ran. He ran a exit stunt.
C
Yeah.
B
It came up the middle of Joe Joseph. I know damn well. Hey, somebody turned. Of all the people y' all could run, let run scot free and hit me in my mouth. Y' all didn't let this dude do that.
C
And he gave it. The funny thing about it. Miles gave everybody problems, huh? Yeah. Body problem. He played three technique. He gets scoot over to the five very, very, so often. Very, very often. He'll go. He even go to the nine. Wait, I got that backwards the other way. Flip it, flip it, flip it. Yeah, always at the nine. I'm talking about wide nine two, huh?
B
Yeah, about wide. He looking at his line. But, like, which one of y' all let that hit me?
C
Hold on. Hey, did you see the play he did on. On Orlando Brown?
B
Yes.
C
So wide and did like a euro step, Euro step over and over just to get around. And that's where he came up the middle. I'm like, what the hell is he doing?
B
He got. He got a. A man that big shouldn't be that athletic. No, I mean, he can bend the edge. That. That first step is everything for a. A. A defensive end or edge rusher. Yeah, he could. Hey, he can generate speed to power because, hey, he getting wide. And he know you got to kick to him. And he knows when you got kicked, when you got a kick, you ain't dropped no anchor.
C
Yeah.
B
So he just. Bull. Hey, he just.
C
Yeah.
B
Come here, Joe. But look, last year, the Bengals would have found a way to lose this game.
C
Yeah.
B
This year, they found a way to win the game. Cleveland, like, hey, we wish a. Keep plugging away. Keep plugging away. Cleveland. Y' all gotta find a quarterback.
C
Yeah. I'm saying this before we go on to the next game.
B
Okay.
C
Even Browns are very good. I continue to say it over and over every time we on the show before the season started. Their defense is really good. I have a con. I had a conversation with Zach Taylor. I went to the, I went to the walkthrough Thursday and I'm like, hey Zach, I understand we playing the Browns. Can we do this off it? Yeah, we just, just, just chit talk. Just, just chitchat. How come you can't do this, you know, offensively to, to go. Go play the Browns and so we can score a lot of points. First thing he says, yeah, not there, there. There are very few teams that are built and have the personnel that can play with any high power offense and the Browns are probably the best at it. Their front four, their back end is extremely, extremely good. They line those dudes up uncle. If you, if you. I mean we don't watch all 22, but if you watch the all 22.
B
Oh yeah.
C
Playing man to man safety right there in the middle of the field. We playing ball like the old school Raiders.
B
Yeah.
C
Playing ball.
B
They got good. They got some good. They got some good defensive players. They do really good. Made by that number 95.
C
Yeah, 95 0. And they got. Damn Denzel Ward, man. Jesus Christ. Them boys good.
B
The Commanders beat the Giants 21 6. New York offense did not look competitive with Russell running it. I was checking back and forth in this game. It seemed like every time I turn in he was putting the ball. Russ was pressured on 16 of his 45 drop backs 35% and handled that pressure quite poorly. He was 2 of 12 for 26 yards, sacked twice when pressured. New York managed his 231 yards of total offense average 3.2 yards per rush. Stumbled twice into the red zone. When asked if he would consider starting Jackson. Dart. Excuse me, Dart. Next week Day Ball said we're going to get home and look at our game. When asked if Wilson would start against the Cowboys, they Ball was equally non committal. We're talking about after every game I've had, I've got confidence in Russ. We'll go back, evaluate the tape. This game isn't on Russell Wilson. It's not a Russell Wilson. Let's make that clear. I have confidence in Russia. We have to do a better job all the way around. Now it was reported that I and like I said, it's maybe I didn't stay long enough to see Dart get any snaps. Did he get any snaps in this game? Oo, did you watch?
C
I was stun. I had all the games on at one, at one time at the sports book. So I'm not sure at what point where Jackson Dart might have come in? When I. When I was watching, I was watching Russell Wilson. Most of the time he was running.
B
No, he didn't come in.
C
Okay, okay. That.
B
Hey. Because there were reports that he was supposed to have a package. They would have a package or two for Jackson Dart. But Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson was 17 to 37, 168, sacked twice, under 26. Quarterback rating. They had 20, 20. They had what, 74 rush yards on 23 rush attempts. Go ahead, Ocho.
C
No, I won't say that. Goddamn defensive line. But it had Rush running for his life. Every time back to even throw a ball, the passing lanes was going because everybody in his face. Everybody was in his face. Most of the time. Most of the game. Every time I looked up, I look at the TV to the left, I'm like, well, God damn, Russ. Every time I look up, you getting hit, you getting sacked, you running for your life. There's certain things you can't put on the quarterback, regardless of who you put in there. Yeah, Jackson Dart had to deal with that. But what I saw today, man, I don't think anything would have been any different because he would have been running for his life.
B
True.
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Podcast: Club Shay Shay
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe (“Unc”) & Chad “OchoCinco” Johnson (“Ocho”)
Episode: Nightcap Hour 1 – Unc & Ocho React to Josh Allen's Bills BEAT Lamar's Ravens, Rodgers 4 TDs, Packers-Lions
Date: September 8, 2025
This “Nightcap” episode is a high-octane, opinionated, and insightful reaction to a wild NFL opening Sunday. Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco Johnson break down the key games and performances of Week 1, focusing especially on the Buffalo Bills’ epic comeback against the Baltimore Ravens, Aaron Rodgers’ four-TD debut for the Steelers, and a decisive Packers win over the Lions. With signature banter and candid football analysis, Unc and Ocho dissect individual player moments, team weaknesses, and big-picture trends in the league.
[04:30 – 29:52]
Game Summary:
“Game of the Week” Energy:
Ravens’ Collapse:
Buffalo’s Resilience:
Situational Football/Coaching:
Stat & Moment Highlights:
Memorable Quote:
[36:56 – 44:49]
Steelers beat Jets 34-32.
Game Flow:
Key Play & Player Discussion:
Takeaways:
[52:12 – 64:27]
Green Bay beats Detroit 27-13
Lions Struggle Offensively:
Defensive Difference:
[64:30 – 74:50]
Cincinnati escapes Cleveland with a 17-16 win
Browns’ Defensive Dominance:
Sloppy, Rugged Division Rivalry:
Commanders beat Giants 21–6:
Coach Speak:
High-energy and conversational, full of former player insight and personal banter. Shannon’s “UNC” persona is candid, humorous, and unfiltered, while Ocho brings detailed WR perspective, playful digs, and Twitter-age commentary.