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Nightcap Hour 1: Unc & Ocho react to Travis Hunter getting snaps on both sides of the ball!
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Shannon Sharpe
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Shannon Sharpe
I mean, listen, you know what you can do? You can use YouTube TV. You can use YouTube TV where you get most of the games. And also I have the N app on my phone. So the NFL app allows you to be able to go back and forth through some of the games you want to. You can't see them all at the same time. But it's just the preseason. It's just the preseason. So it's kind of difficult to be able to watch the ones you want to watch based on location.
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Ocho Cinco
Right.
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Shannon Sharpe
And when, where they are.
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Ocho Cinco
Most of most of them are regional games.
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Shannon Sharpe
Right, Right, right. But once, once the regular season gets in, gets in, you know, you'll be able to watch multiple at one time. Especially the 1 o' clock games, obviously the 4:30 games and then those that are slated at 7:30.
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Ocho Cinco
Right. He did have 11 snaps, two receptions for nine yards. Nothing deep, nothing significant. He gave up leverage on one play. He'll learn. These guys are really good. Hey, if you got leverage and he had leverage and let the guy bounce outside. You ain't. You ain't getting. You ain't catching those guys.
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N/A
No, no, no, no, no, no.
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Ocho Cinco
You got to maintain your. Your lane, responsibility, integrity. But like I said, it was. It was. You know, I. I just wanted to see what, you know, we saw what we saw, what it wasn't. You know what I'm saying? I mean, how do we rate it? He caught two passes for nine yards and he had eight snaps with no targets.
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N/A
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
I mean, the one thing is, it's kind of. It's not. It's not. It's not nitpicking. One thing that he will learn, too, on the two pass that he get. He did. He did catch. I call it. I always call it that. Marvin Harrison, remember Peyton Manning and Marvin Harrison always having that under that short six yards and coming in.
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Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
But he did so well in college that the players and the DBs in college didn't do. They would over commit so much. He'd be. Be able to spin out the back door. He'd be able to come out back door. But now, now that you're at the next level, they don't over commit. They come to balance right away and they make the tackle. So he tried.
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Ocho Cinco
You gotta be careful with that too, Ocho, because you know them big guys.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, he tried to.
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Ocho Cinco
You know, the big guys trailing now.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Ocho Cinco
You know, hey. Cause what. What happens when they see that ball thrown? What do they do?
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Shannon Sharpe
They coming. Yeah, they coming.
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Ocho Cinco
But.
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Shannon Sharpe
But this is. You got to remember he's coming from outside the end and trying to spin back outside. Yes, he is out of control, but most of the time they're not out of control.
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Ocho Cinco
No.
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Shannon Sharpe
So they were under control. Listen, you.
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Ocho Cinco
You, you.
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Shannon Sharpe
You split the man in half when you attack. Coming to tackle, right. You always hit the target. So I mean, you keep your.
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Ocho Cinco
You don't let him get on your outside shoulder because a lot of times, like you said, they over commit. And the outside shoulder inside the man, now he spins out. Now you. So as long as my outside shoulder is free, I can tackle you?
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Shannon Sharpe
Bingo.
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N/A
Yeah. Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
So that's it. That's it. He'll see it. It'll be much more difficult to be able to do some of those tricks that you did in college because these were out of control. They over commit. They attack in the inside shoulder, you know, and all you got to do, once you spin back, it becomes a foot race and you running down the.
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Ocho Cinco
Side, racing to the corner. Now I got My inside here, I got my steel farm free to still farm you and pick up yards. But yeah, that. Those are things that, you know, as you play at this, at this level, you learn a lot of the tricks of the trade. You'll know when to get down, when you can fight and struggle for extra yards. Because I'm telling you, those big guys and those licks hurt when them 300 pounds hit you. That's different than a DB tackle you now.
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N/A
Yeah.
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Ocho Cinco
Cause he hitting, he putting helmet on you, and he putting £300. Exactly.
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N/A
Yep.
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Ocho Cinco
So. And on. On defensive side, like I said, he just had that one. That one play that I saw that he gave up leverage. But other than that, nothing, you know, really major to write home about. I don't think we. It's going to be really hard to judge him oo unless he gets significant snaps, you know what I'm saying? And they give him an opportunity and we see him, we see them like, game plan to get him to football. It's hard being he caught two passes, nine yards.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, listen, I thought, I thought obviously the hype around Travis Hunter, second round, I mean, second pick in the draft, I thought they were going to feature him a little bit, but obviously they allowed Trevor Lawrence, they allowed the offense to flow. Whatever they gave him, they just. They didn't feature him. Who. First play of the game, Brian Thomas Jr. Goddamn hits on the right side. Then I thought they would come to him at some point and just get him acclimated and then get him going, but nah, nah, they just waited. When the opportunity presented itself, they threw in the ball and, you know, it was. It was simple.
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Ocho Cinco
Yeah, I. Me, personally, I think he's going to spend more time on offense than defense, but hey, that. That remains to be seen. But I do think you'll probably get a look a lot more. You will see a lot more Travis and what he's capable of doing once the season start. I don't think they're gonna, you know, try to prove any point or make anything, you know, do anything. Have him do anything spectacular in the postseason. The thing is, Ocho, I want to, you know, you try to keep most of your stuff under wraps.
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N/A
Yeah.
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Ocho Cinco
I don't want to show you too much in the preseason because these games don't mean anything. I'm just trying to get timing. I'm trying to get the guys, you know, get the guys in football shape. Because here's the thing now, with three games, you play the third game now, you got in a week, a week in between when you play again, it used to be, you know how we played that Thursday, Friday, and guess what? We was playing the following Sunday. It's not like that anymore.
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N/A
No.
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Ocho Cinco
So now you play. Now you got another week in between before you go play.
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N/A
Right.
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Ocho Cinco
And so I'm just trying to get the guys as conditioned as I possibly can, let them know what is going to be expected, you know, the, the timing and all that stuff. But I think Travis, fine, like I said, 11 snaps, two receptions, nine yards, eight snaps, zero targets. He got 19. He got 19 snaps. Which is probably about what you would think if he, if he was just a rookie playing on one side of the ball. That's probably what you thought he would get. 19 snaps.
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N/A
Yeah, I'm excited for him, man.
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Ocho Cinco
But the most outstanding thing in the game happened when Jaguars kicker Cam Little nailed a 70 yard field goal as the first half expired in Jacksonville's preseason open against the Steelers. That would have broken the NFL record had it been the regular season.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
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Ocho Cinco
Justin Tucker kicked a 66 yard field goal to beat the Lions September 26, 2021 at, at Ford Field. Now it's a lot different. It's a lot different kicking outside than it is inside because you got control conditions. You don't have to worry about wind, you don't have to worry about rain, you don't have to worry about anything.
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N/A
Right.
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Ocho Cinco
That field goal that this gentleman kicked looked like it had been good for him. About 72. Cuz he boomed it.
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N/A
Yeah, he did, he did.
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Ocho Cinco
He boomed it though. He, he boomed it and look, I don't care. I know it's preseason done count. Well, you go out there and you go out there to the high school field and kick a 70 yarder.
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Shannon Sharpe
I mean, listen, it's very difficult. I don't think people understand how far that is. Even for those who are professionals. You have to understand being able to kick it from that far. 1. Most people do have the leg, but the problem is it's not, it's not about having a leg and act. It's about having the accuracy to be able to kick from that far split the upright. You have to understand the uprights have been, have been changed. They're a lot more narrow than they used to be.
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Ocho Cinco
Yes.
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Shannon Sharpe
For the room for error. The room for error when kicking, you know, most of the time the ball depending on if you have the consistency. Yes, yes, yes. That you have the consistency in your follow through. You can't swing to the left or you can't leave your leg open and then it'll go wide right. No, you. Everything has to be perfect. That, that, that finish, that follow.
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Ocho Cinco
Especially when you're kicking it that far.
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N/A
Yeah.
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Ocho Cinco
Because if anything is off, you kicking that far, it ain't going.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
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Ocho Cinco
You wasted one way or the other.
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Shannon Sharpe
And the funny thing about it is most people, Most people say, well, it is a preseason. There's no pressure as well in this, in, in this kick. There's no pressure. The circumstance that, that you're in, you know, it's. It's preseason. You know what we're going to allow you to kick. Would they allow him to kick from 70 maybe in a regular season game where it actually counts? Probably not.
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Ocho Cinco
If you think about it, if you.
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Shannon Sharpe
Do miss, you got to understand the team is already in.
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Ocho Cinco
Steelers didn't even put anybody back. That was my point. They didn't even put anybody back there.
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N/A
Right.
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Shannon Sharpe
Right.
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Ocho Cinco
So there's like, hey, don't even worry about it. That's the thing. That is the thing. What you're saying is that they normally have a guy back there. And if you miss it, you got really. Only two guys. Maybe your wings.
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N/A
Yeah.
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Ocho Cinco
That can tackle.
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Shannon Sharpe
Tackle.
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N/A
Yeah.
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Ocho Cinco
They're normally linebackers or tight end. So those are really. You only really got two guys that can tackle.
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N/A
Right.
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Ocho Cinco
You got offensive linemen, mainly offensive linemen. Now, you might have a defensive lineman on there, Ocho, but he ain't tackling his face.
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N/A
No, no.
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Ocho Cinco
And you know the kick. What, what. What's the likelihood of the kicker, the holder, getting somebody down? Because we saw it on the kick. Six Auburn versus Alabama. We've seen Antonio Cromartie run those things back. We've seen Devin Hester run it back. I think OBJ ran one back in college. So when you put people in situations that they're not used to being in, Right. Which is offensive lineman having to tackle, kickers and punters having to tackle, especially with that kind of space.
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N/A
Yeah.
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Ocho Cinco
If you get him hemmed up on the sideline, you can try to push him out of bounds. But that guy got a head of steam. And you know, they're taught in linemen don't really know how to get lanes, Ocho, because, you know, they following each other. They follow right behind one another, bro. Spread their ass out. You. We got lanes now that you have to get in.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, they don't know.
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Ocho Cinco
But that was. I was like. And why not? Like you said, Ocho, why not try something like this? Okay. Now I got the confidence. Cause if it's a late in the ball game, instead of Trying to Hail Mary. Hell, I might let the kicker come out there and try it.
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Shannon Sharpe
Put him on out there. Either the tire game or the winner.
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Ocho Cinco
Game, Especially if we're in Indy or Houston because those are indoor arenas and.
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Shannon Sharpe
There'S no factors from the outside elements.
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Ocho Cinco
Yes, yes.
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N/A
Yeah.
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Ocho Cinco
So congratulations. Look, congratulations. It does not count towards the record. But, you know, you know, now I got the. I got the leg. The coach knows you have the leg.
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Shannon Sharpe
Hey, you know, you gotta think, Ocho.
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Ocho Cinco
That's a kickoff.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, oh, yeah, absolutely. You. He doesn't kick off. Hey, you. Hold on. Wait a minute. Now, you do know your co host can kick just as far, right?
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Ocho Cinco
No, you never kick that far.
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Shannon Sharpe
Hold on. Time out, time out, time out, time out. You know, there's video, there's visual evidence, there's video evidence. I don't know, Ash, is there. You have. You have a great team of people that can pull things up.
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Ocho Cinco
No, she on vacation. Over.
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Shannon Sharpe
Ash, can you please show unc me kicking from 60, 65 yards, please? And having even more room to go once it goes through. I think I might have been with. During this time. I might have been with bleach report. We were. We were doing something.
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Ocho Cinco
It's.
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Shannon Sharpe
It's. It's online.
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Ocho Cinco
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm talking about in the game. Now, if you k. I saw you make a p. In the game.
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Shannon Sharpe
Listen, 65 yards in the game and then. Or. Or just. Just doing it, you know, in the park, practicing. It's still. So.
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Ocho Cinco
So a guy catching. So a guy catching the ball at the Turkey bowl is the same as kicking the ball in the NFL, huh?
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Shannon Sharpe
Well, absolutely. We're not talking about a guy. We're talking. You're actually referring to an actual player who plays, you know, in the NFL. Or played.
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Ocho Cinco
Played.
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N/A
Right, right.
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Ocho Cinco
Many, many years ago.
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Shannon Sharpe
Right. But I. I still can. Mentally. I know what to do now. The body might not react the way it should.
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Ocho Cinco
Yeah, I know. I know what to do. I know how to run. I know how to, like, swing my arms and put one leg in front of the other. But doing it is something entirely different. Entirely different.
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Shannon Sharpe
But I was just trying to give you a small example that your co host can kick 65, 70 yards as well.
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Ocho Cinco
No. Maybe once upon a time, my co host could kick 65, 70 yards.
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Shannon Sharpe
You failed to realize, Uncle, I play soccer every weekend. I'm part of a soccer league here in Miami.
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Ocho Cinco
Let me ask you a question. You think Messi leg speed is the same as it was? Say 15 years ago.
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Shannon Sharpe
No, no. His speed. Easy. Like being able to break out and get away from people.
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Ocho Cinco
I said his leg speed.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh no, absolutely not. No, no.
- [16:12]
Ocho Cinco
Why not?
- [16:13]
Shannon Sharpe
No. Because he's much older now.
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Ocho Cinco
Oh, okay. Thank you very much. We can move along. Cam Ward NFL preseason debut tonight in Tampa. Five of eight completions, all completions coming on the second drive. 67 yards passing, an 89.1 rating, led a 65 yard touchdown drive. Ocho the little bit, the limited action that you saw, you like what you saw?
- [18:21]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. The funny thing about it is, you know what is these players are NFL ready. Some rookies that I saw today are so poised in the pocket most of the time they get happy feet when pressure is put upon them. But they look like they're playing for 10 plus years. They look like veterans. The pocket presence, the, the, the, the relaxedness under duress. Cam Ward showed it. Jackson Dart showed it as well. Obviously we saw Shador last night who also played with that same Calmness and poise and. And. And you can see the leadership qualities in the way they carry themselves as quarterbacks. And Cam, small sample size that we. We were able to see tonight. He didn't play much, but you can tell. You can tell he's sharp. You can tell he's been coached well, not just here at the NFL level he's at now, because it doesn't just happen that fast. It's not that fast of a turnaround to look that comfortable like you know what you're doing. So he was coached very well, obviously, when he was at um, and so it's carried over into the NFL and I'm. I'm excited for Tennessee Titan fans, you know, and what they had with the number one pick. I just don't like the fact that he's been overshadowed since his pick because everyone else has been talked about. This is the least talked about number one pick, I think maybe ever. You were number one pick. So it seemed like he's went under the radar. No one said anything about him. When most of the pressure is on a number one pick to perform because you're going, that's good. That was the worst last year.
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Ocho Cinco
Like you said, I can fly under the radar.
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N/A
Right?
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Ocho Cinco
The difference is now, Ocho, these guys come in, they've been coached by throwing coaches since they were in high school.
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N/A
Yes, sir.
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Ocho Cinco
They're freshman, so there's not like the guys that came in 25 years ago. They were just coming to the NFL and then, okay, hey, you get. You hire a coach right before you getting ready to go, you know, to the end, up to the combine, right? And then you work with him up until you. Your pro day, and that's it. These guys have these guys all the time. It's just like basketball players. They got shooting coaches and they got trainers now in college, so they have an upper hand. That's why they're. So when you find a guy that's ready, he's really ready to play.
- [20:41]
N/A
Yes, yes.
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Ocho Cinco
These receivers, they work with guys. So when you find a guy that's ready, he's really, really ready.
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N/A
Yeah.
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Ocho Cinco
So guys are not coming in like you. I mean, like. Like I came in, right? I mean, guys, you know, time. I mean, guys would go down there for like, maybe six weeks and work with a speed coach. But these guys got professionals basically training them, right. Sometimes they have them in high school, Ocho. So just imagine you going through the process and they. They giving you in. They giving you pro style, Right. Advice, right?
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Shannon Sharpe
And you know what? I think that's why so many different quarterbacks. Obviously they look the par, but don't have all the other intangibles to be a starter. They look the part. But Cam Ward, not only did he look the part, but he had everything else. He had all the other qualities that make him the number one pick. Obviously, Shador falling to the fifth round, not only do you look the part, but he has all the other intangibles that made. That made him a top pick despite him falling to the fifth round.
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Ocho Cinco
Right.
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Shannon Sharpe
They polished. They're polished. That's all it is. You're who's been prepared for the NFL level, so you look the par once you're in a structured environment, in a real live game.
- [21:55]
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
God damn. How the hell are you dropping back so goddamn calm? Everybody rushing, trying to knock his head off. And he's sitting there chilling progression. One, two, three. Okay, three's not there. Let me shoot back the one. If one ain't there, I'm either throw out of bounds or I'm tucking it.
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Ocho Cinco
Oh, hell no. You better not. If you. If you go 1, 2, 3 and try to go back to 1, they're gonna hit you. Put your. Put the helmet right up under your. You better take that check down.
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N/A
Yeah.
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Ocho Cinco
Yeah. Hey. 1, 2, 3, check down. 1, 2, 3. Throw it out of bounds.
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N/A
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
One or the other or take off with it.
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Ocho Cinco
Yeah. And I think, Ocho. I think that's what we're seeing. If you look at these quarterbacks, I mean, it used to be a quarterback throwing for 20 touchdowns in a season. It was like, oh, my gosh, he really good, man. These guys throwing for 25, 30 touchdowns.
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N/A
Yeah, easy.
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Ocho Cinco
It's a look. And I understand the rules have a lot to do with that. The way they protect the quarterback, the way they protect the Seaver. The way they throw the football now is more conducive for quarterback having better stats. But I do think these guys are a little bit more advanced than when the older guys, the Montanas and the Elways and the Marinos, when they came out. I'm not saying they're better, but they're coached more. And so I don't. John probably never. I don't know if Danny or John to be interesting.
- [23:10]
N/A
Right.
- [23:10]
Ocho Cinco
Man. You have. You had a. You had a pro coach. You had a Tom House or you have a. What's Carson Palmer's brother name?
- [23:17]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, Jordan. Hey, Jordan Palmer, Real Deal.
- [23:20]
Ocho Cinco
You have a. Did you have a Jordan Palmer? Did you have a George Whitfield? Did you have any of those guys to, to, to help you the, all these quarterbacks, they have those right. Offensive linemen, they're working out with offensive line coaches, they're working out with former great NFL linemen. So they're a little bit more advanced than say the guys. You know, even if you want to say 10 years ago, 15 years ago, definitely when you go start going back 20, 30 years ago, they're more advanced. Just like the guys are coming out in basketball. You see how. And even baseball, these guys, you know, fathers played and so they got, you know, hitting coaches, they got pitching coaches. They're looking at biomechanics and they look at all it's.
- [24:05]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, the funny thing about it, you think about the time of the time change and yeah, technology is advanced and everything evolves. They have better resources. They got unlimited absolutely to get better at said position whatever it may be, whatever their respect respective craft may be to hone that skill set. So when they do make it to the highest level, right the par. Now it's one thing to look the part everybody you, I mean that the it factor can get you in the door but you got to have all the other stuff that comes with it to excel.
- [24:39]
Ocho Cinco
Now I totally, I told, I totally agree but I thought Cal Ward played really well, especially second drive. You got the ball to Calvin Ridley, you know, really, hey, that's somebody he can lean, lean heavily on because he's one of the premier route runners and he started to get you. He started to look like Calvin Ridley again because you remember that last year that he really played in Atlanta.
- [25:01]
Shannon Sharpe
He was cutting, he was cutting.
- [25:03]
Ocho Cinco
He was doing it cut. He was really doing it. On the other side of the ball, rookie Shiloh Sanders delivered multiple big hits including one on Brandon Allen on a blitz. First round draft pick Emeka Ibuka also showed off his physical attributes. Leaping 21 yard grab backup quarterback Kyle Trask. I mean Shador's played really well. I mean I've seen footage of him in camp. He did a great job of in the one on one team. A one on one period against the tight ends.
- [25:36]
Shannon Sharpe
You saw that route.
- [25:37]
Ocho Cinco
He's on it. He was on it because you have to understand he started out, he started out as a corner.
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N/A
Yeah.
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Ocho Cinco
So he does have corner instinct.
- [25:45]
Shannon Sharpe
I didn't know that. I thought he was always.
- [25:46]
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, he started out as a corner and then moved to safety. Yeah.
- [25:49]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
- [25:51]
Ocho Cinco
But when. Yeah, yeah, I thought he played well. We know he's a thumper. He's looking to get. Oh yeah, looking get downhill and put.
- [25:57]
Shannon Sharpe
Big hits on that.
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N/A
Yes, sir.
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Ocho Cinco
Yeah. But I thought he. And I think it's going to be interesting. Ocho, how many special teams can he play?
- [26:05]
N/A
Right.
- [26:06]
Ocho Cinco
Because that's going to be the key. He's not a start now. He could be working his way into the starting lineup, but as of right now, I don't think he's a starter. So now, what other ways can you contribute? Right.
- [26:17]
Shannon Sharpe
He'll be on. He'll be on special teams, whether it be field goal block, whether it be. We be kickoff.
- [26:23]
Ocho Cinco
Yeah. Return. Can you be. Can you be a jammer? Can you be a gunner on the.
- [26:28]
N/A
Yes.
- [26:28]
Ocho Cinco
Yeah. Can you be on the front line? Can you be a L. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. On the front line? You definitely. He gonna be okay, you know, kickoff, obviously?
- [26:39]
N/A
Yeah. Yeah.
- [26:41]
Shannon Sharpe
Is it me or does it seem like kickoff is. Is much more, Much easier, as opposed. As opposed to how it was during our day? You know, you had the wedge buster. You. You had the.
- [26:51]
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, yeah. They don't. They don't. They don't really want those type of collisions, so they don't. If you see. They're not letting you get that kind of running start.
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N/A
All right. Right. Yeah.
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Ocho Cinco
It's different. It's not. It's. I mean, I think Hester said he'd have more, probably more return touchdowns had they had it in like that. So it's been interesting to see what would have happened. But the advancements, I don't have a problem with it, Ocho.
- [27:17]
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, sometimes, like, man, I'm just saying it's different.
- [27:20]
Ocho Cinco
It's very different. It's very different. The guy that you really like in the first round, the Bucks selected Emeka Ibuka. You like him? You like McMillan.
- [27:35]
Shannon Sharpe
Carolina, and they both look good.
- [27:40]
Ocho Cinco
Did golden go in the first round or the second round for Green Bay?
- [27:42]
Shannon Sharpe
Matthew golden.
- [27:44]
Ocho Cinco
Oh, yeah. McMillan.
- [27:46]
Shannon Sharpe
I think golden win the second ride.
- [27:47]
Ocho Cinco
He ran for first, number 23.
- [27:49]
N/A
Yeah.
- [27:49]
Ocho Cinco
Then it had Jaden Higgins went in the second round, Luther Burton III went in the second round, Trey Harris went in the second round, and Jack beach went in the second round. So there were. In the first two rounds. There were seven receivers that went in the first. The first two rounds.
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N/A
Yeah.
- [28:05]
Ocho Cinco
Who do. Who do you expect to have the biggest impact?
- [28:09]
Shannon Sharpe
Probably, honestly, out of everyone you just name. I know Matthew golden is good. He's phenomenal. Obviously, they do have dubs. They have Jaden Reed. So I don't think he will get the number of targets necessary to be able to showcase Reed, Dobbs, Watson. It's it's so many of them over there. I think he will, he will contribute. But I really believe TMac McMillan over there with the Panther, you know, and with what he's able to do and what he showed, very small sample size. Honestly, it's been one preseason game, but again, I've been high on the Panthers. I think t mat is going to be the one to showcase his ability and what he can do. It's a mismatch every time they leave him one on one. He's very tall, he can run after the catch and obvious 50, 50 ball turning 8020 when it, when it is him. So I'm, I'm excited for him. He's the one I'm highest on and hoping that not just him, but collectively as a group, offensively, as a receiving core, I think they make the difference in Bryce Young taking the next step in his career.
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Ocho Cinco
I agree. I think him, I like Ibuka also for the simple fact how healthy will God would be upon his return.
- [29:23]
N/A
Right. Right.
- [29:26]
Ocho Cinco
Is he only. Is he gonna. I don't think he's on pub, but so it's gonna be interesting to see how he used. You know, we know Baker can throw it. Oh yeah, you got Mr. Consistency on one side. Evans, Mike Evans. And then so Bucha could really have a huge year. But I, but I, but I like McMillan also. Long angular guy, what he's like 6, 3, 6, 4. Make tough contested catches. He good run after the catch. Yeah.
- [29:57]
N/A
Yeah.
- [29:58]
Ocho Cinco
I mean, I think he's good. I think Matthew Golden. I mean you look, you look at Romeo Dobbs. You mentioned Christian Watson, you mentioned Reed. They got a lot, they got a lot of, lot of receivers. They don't really have a guy that like, okay, this is the guy that you got to worry about. You kind of got to worry about them all. Cuz at any given moment, cuz you know, it might be dos weeks, one week and then it be Christian Watson. Watson's biggest thing is staying healthy.
- [30:19]
Shannon Sharpe
Healthy.
- [30:20]
N/A
Yeah.
- [30:20]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, hey, he can put him up and put him down.
- [30:22]
Ocho Cinco
Hell, he can pick him up, put.
- [30:23]
Shannon Sharpe
Him down quite quietly. The goddamn, the goddamn packers got a four by one team, unc. Yeah, they got a four by one team.
- [30:31]
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
- [30:31]
Shannon Sharpe
Dubs Watson. Reed can fly, Dobbs. Golden can fly. Man, stop playing.
- [30:44]
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, I, I think McMillan Abuka would have the biggest. But I'm not going to sleep on, you know, Luther Burton. A lot of people thought he'd be a first round draft pick receiver out of Missouri. He go, he goes to the bears. They got D.J. moore, they got Roma Dunze. They drafted a tight end in the first round. They still have Cole commit, upgraded their offensive line. They should be. And they got Detroit's old offensive coordinator as the head coach calling the plays.
- [31:13]
Shannon Sharpe
I call it Mr. Creativity.
- [31:15]
Ocho Cinco
Yeah. So they should definitely be better offensively. And if they are better offensively, well, big number. Because if you look at Detroit, you look at Jameson Williams had had a phenomenal season. You look at Amon Ross St. Brown.
- [31:33]
N/A
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
- [31:37]
Ocho Cinco
A big season.
- [31:39]
Shannon Sharpe
You know what's funny is Amon Ross St. Brown, he's one of the top five receivers, depending on how you put him in numerical order in the NFL. Why would you think it didn't matter who was calling the goddamn plays? Because he's so good at just route running in general. He's a polished one. You know what? I don't have to scheme. You open. He's one of those where officer coordinators and your head coach. You know what? I can sleep at night because I ain't got to worry about that one. It don't matter who we playing. I don't have to worry about him. I know what he can do. So you add what he can do in his skill set and his DNA and then you put that with the creativity that Ben Johnson has.
- [32:14]
Ocho Cinco
Yes.
- [32:15]
Shannon Sharpe
You get what you saw last year. You get magic. You get magic. Now, I don't know if there's anyone like that with that type of skill set, similar to Aman Ross St. Brown on the Bears, but DJ Moore is damn good. He's not that far behind.
- [32:30]
Ocho Cinco
He's not. He. He doesn't have that short area quickness like that.
- [32:34]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no.
- [32:36]
Ocho Cinco
That's. That's not. That's not what he is. He's. Can he play the slot? Yeah, he's an outside the number. He and Roman Dunes is outside the number type of guys.
- [32:44]
Shannon Sharpe
So you're going to be all right. The good thing about it is Ben Johnson is going to understand and know his player strengths and put them in position to be able to make those plays and not allow them to be exposed in whatever their weakness is that we can't see watching from home. We don't know it. They know it.
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Ocho Cinco
Right.
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Ocho Cinco
Jackson Dart Shine in his NFL debut. 12 of 19, 154 passing yards, one touchdown, zero interceptions. He led three scoring drives. The TD came on a 29 yard strike down the left sideline to Lil Jordan Humphrey with pressure in his face. He also rushed three times for 24 yards. O Joe, you like what you saw?
- [35:09]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, shoot. Listen, we weren't even on Jackson Dart and I started to show off with how good he looked in being in season ready, being polished, you know, look really good and look really good in the pocket. He wasn't erratic most of the time. You get rookie quarterbacks in an environment like that in a game and everybody got happy feet. Everybody got happy feet. They look, once they look at the first read, the first reading there, they take it off and they gone. But no, he did everything. He did everything the right way. You can tell he's another one who's been coached up and was ready for the moment. The moment wasn't too big for him, even though it's just the preseason. So it's like going on your first date. The first thing you want to do on your first date is you want to be impressionable. You want to do everything possible to do all the right things. You want to open the door. You want to let her order first, huh? He did everything right shoot as, as did Cam Ward. And obviously we saw Shador, who had a, a bigger plate to be able to show what he can do. Hell, he, he didn't got. He got the third base in the first night.
- [36:15]
Ocho Cinco
And he played. I mean, you get all the quarterbacks played. Rush was 6 of 7. Jameis was 7 of 11, 62 yards of touchdown. Tommy DeVito, 10, 14, 73 yards, a Touchdown Jackson dart. 12 of 19, 154 yards and a touchdown. 35 of 51, 317, three touchdowns. So clearly they had a, a plan. They were going to throw the football.
- [36:38]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah. Absolutely.
- [36:39]
Ocho Cinco
They were gonna throw the football.
- [36:40]
Shannon Sharpe
Absolutely. Yeah.
- [36:41]
Ocho Cinco
And I thought, I thought they, I thought the guys played really, really well. Jackson dart threw the ball well a little. Jordan Humphrey been in the league for a while, so had some. A consistent player outside to catch the ball for him. But yeah, yeah, Jackson dart looked. He looked extremely well. You know, he went to Ole Miss. Lane, Kiffin Lane.
- [37:03]
N/A
Yep.
- [37:04]
Ocho Cinco
Great offensive mind coach. The quarterback does a great job coaching quarterbacks. So I, maybe I'm not as. I'm not surprised that he played so well given who he tutelage under.
- [37:17]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And the funny thing about it is, I believe Russell Wilson is going to be the starter. Russell Wilson is going to be the starter for the New York Giants, I can tell you that. But they wanted to see what Jackson Dart would look like once the keys are turned over to him. Now, it could be this season if things aren't going well for the Giants offensively, but Russell Wilson will be the starter for the New York Giants for the foreseeable future. Unless things aren't going well offensively.
- [37:43]
Ocho Cinco
Well, I'll see him at the starter. I don't know if he's gonna be.
- [37:45]
Shannon Sharpe
The finisher, but listen, there's a chance he stays the finisher because of what he has around him. You get that ball, you get that ball to the other uno.
- [37:56]
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
- [37:57]
Shannon Sharpe
You put him in position to make plays for you. It makes your job a lot easier.
- [38:01]
Ocho Cinco
Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Oh, man.
- [38:07]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, somebody in the chat making fun of me. What that it talk about? I got the same thing I had on last night on last night's show. Well, actually, I, I do. I. I ain't taking a shower, so.
- [38:22]
Ocho Cinco
But I mean, look, are you gonna keep. Are you gonna keep two veteran quarterbacks in a rookie?
- [38:27]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes. Jameis Winston is not the one. He's great, great, great.
- [38:31]
Ocho Cinco
No, but I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. You Gonna keep two veteran quarterbacks. You know what you're playing, Russ, you probably paying Jameis. What are you paying Jameis? 5 to 7 million.
- [38:39]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [38:39]
Ocho Cinco
And you know, Jackson dart's not going anywhere.
- [38:41]
Shannon Sharpe
No, but you keep. You keep Russ.
- [38:43]
N/A
You.
- [38:43]
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, you keep Jameis Winston. Great locker room presence. A great presence for the team in general. He's just good for the locker room in general. And just if it comes down to emergency situations, we understand that James. James can go in there and have some fun. Not only have some fun, but be consistent. Kind of turnover prone, depending on how long he's in there at the position. But outside of that, he can make plays as well, but.
- [39:07]
Ocho Cinco
Cause that's a tough division, Ocho.
- [39:09]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, very, very.
- [39:10]
Ocho Cinco
I mean, you got the Eagles. You got the. What? The Commanders. You got the Cowboys. I mean, people think the Cowboys are going to be better. I don't know how much better. I don't know.
- [39:19]
N/A
Right.
- [39:19]
Ocho Cinco
We think the Eagles are still the cream of the crop of that division based on what they did last year, what they brought back.
- [39:25]
N/A
Yeah, yeah, listen.
- [39:28]
Shannon Sharpe
Very little.
- [39:28]
Ocho Cinco
Washington commanders, we expect. We expect Jaden Daniels not to have a sophomore slump. Now. They do have someone that's disgruntled. Okay, Terry McClory.
- [39:37]
Shannon Sharpe
I was gonna say. I was gonna say, listen, having your number. Having your number one target, having your security blanket paid and happy would help prevent having a sophomore slump. But hey, maybe they know what they're doing over there in. In Washington. But there is no room for error. There is no room for error in that NFC east when it comes to quarterback play. You got to be consistent week in and week out because everyone else is so good. Everyone else got so much better. Hell, the Eagles coming off a goddamn super bowl win, you think they don't want to go back? They didn't do anything but improve as well.
- [40:14]
Ocho Cinco
Yep, I agree. So Jackson Dart. Say Shador. Touche, bro.
- [40:25]
N/A
Yeah.
- [40:26]
Ocho Cinco
Brian Daboll on what he thought of Jackson Dark's performance. It's about what I thought it would be. Efficient, effective, aggressive, confident in the pocket. Still, stuff can be. Can work on. But he's doing good. Brian Dabal is a great coach. I mean, I like his offensive mind. I don't. You know, there remains to be seen offense as a head coach.
- [40:46]
N/A
Right.
- [40:47]
Ocho Cinco
But we saw him at Alabama. Now, he didn't have the great success at Cleveland, but hey, ain't a whole lot of. Outside of a Paul Brown, there hadn't been a whole lot of coaches that had success at Cleveland. Well, Marty had some success he got the AFC championships a couple of times with the Browns. Sam Rutigliano, that was before your time when he was in Cleveland in the early 80s.
- [41:13]
N/A
Right.
- [41:13]
Ocho Cinco
But Brian Dayball's offensive mind, I mean, he was the guy that really got Josh Allen on track. Ocho. Now then people because proud of him getting there. People like, I don't know, the jury's still out on, on Josh. And then Brian Dayball comes there and not only he was so good, he parlayed that into a head coaching job for himself.
- [41:38]
N/A
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [41:42]
Ocho Cinco
And so, yeah, he said he was efficient, he was effective, he was aggressive and confident. Things that you like for the quarterback. You like for it to be efficient, you like for it to be effective, you like for him to be aggressive. Don't be a dinking and dunking it on here. Cause you scared to throw the ball. No, throw the ball down the field.
- [41:58]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, it was, it was third down. It was third down and he took the three by one side. The three by one side. He should take the deep ball instead of, throw the, instead of throw it short for the first down. See, F that his third. His third and whatever. Yeah. Hell, he went deep. Touchdown.
- [42:17]
Ocho Cinco
Yeah. But that's when you're not afraid. You're not worried about your completion percentage. You're not worried about your quarterback for rating. You're not worried about your qbr.
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N/A
Right.
- [42:28]
Ocho Cinco
You score points by pushing the ball down the field.
- [42:30]
N/A
Down the field. Yeah.
- [42:32]
Ocho Cinco
J.J. mcCarthy said he was emotional in his first game in 364 days. McCarthy said there was a little teardrop during the night national anthem before he took the field for the first time since he tore meniscus in his right knee that ended his rookie season. It was just the journey that any injured player goes on to get back out there and doing the things that they love. It just shows how much I care for this game. He completed his first three passes, all to wide out wide receiver Jordan Addison, and led the Vikings to a field goal on their opening drive before Kevin O' Connell pulled him. McCarthy. Four of seven completion. He was four completions on seven attempts, 30 yards. He also converted a fourth down with an eight yard run. Ocho, did you like what you see from J.J. mcCarthy?
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I. I enjoyed it. I enjoy. I enjoyed it. I was, I was kind of. I was kind of nervous for him. I was kind of nervous for him. I wanted to be able to. I wanted him to be able to get through a clean game. No mishaps, no, no mistakes are going to happen, but they're things that we, we're not going to be able to see. But it looked like he handled, he handled the offense very, very well. I would have liked to see Justin Jefferson out there. Obviously he's, I think he's nursing something, trying to make sure he doesn't have any mishaps or slip ups either with, with whatever injury is bothering him. But J.J. look good. Jesse look good, look like he looked like the quarterback of the future. Addison. Everyone else around him look good as well. So I don't see any problems. I don't see them missing the beat offensively as long as JJ does exactly what he's supposed to do. Hell, if Sam Donald could do it with what he had last year.
- [44:04]
N/A
Right.
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Shannon Sharpe
And J.J. mcCarthy can do it as well.
- [44:07]
Ocho Cinco
Sam Howell came in and was 11 of 13 for 105 yards. Ocho. Brett Rippin was 1 for 4. But the guy that we wanted to see, like you said, he, he tore that meniscus last year and he missed his entire rookie season. So to see him get back out there today and he says it's emotional and that's, that is, that's true. The more, the more you care about something, the more it hurts when you don't have it or you can't do it.
- [44:31]
N/A
Right.
- [44:32]
Ocho Cinco
So it's, it was great to see him out there because they're Lofty expectation. They're, they're, you know, they're in a good division. Look at, I mean last year they went 14 and three and they started on the road because the 15 and two Detroit Lions.
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N/A
Yeah.
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Ocho Cinco
We think Chicago is going to be better. We think Green Bay is going to be better. The Bear. Excuse me, Detroit. I mean, we don't think they're going to take a step back. They do get hutch back.
- [45:04]
Shannon Sharpe
Yay, Mr. Motor.
- [45:07]
Ocho Cinco
So. Yeah, but I thought J.J. mcCarthy played well. You know, I, it's really hard. You don't want to say he's a rookie, but theoretically he is because he didn't really get anything done last year. Ocho. Because as soon as he, you know, I think he got hurt in practice, you know.
- [45:27]
Shannon Sharpe
You know who I didn't see when we were talking about the Giants game?
- [45:30]
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
- [45:31]
Shannon Sharpe
But did brother Abdul Card play today? He probably had limited snaps. Huh.
- [45:38]
Ocho Cinco
If he played at all. I mean, we can go back and see if I can find him on the, on the. He played. Actually. He did play. Okay.
- [45:49]
N/A
Okay.
- [45:52]
Ocho Cinco
But you know, as a D lineman. Yeah. It's a rhythm, man. You just can't go out there the first Player and get a sack man. You gotta be, hey you, hey. You gotta, you know, you gotta set the guy up.
- [46:03]
N/A
Yeah.
- [46:04]
Ocho Cinco
You gotta be, you know. Now unless you did that like that, that Jedi defensive lineman, number 78, where he made the game. He made the team tonight.
- [46:11]
N/A
Yeah.
- [46:12]
Ocho Cinco
Two sacks. Fumble. Fumble recovery for a touchdown. Pressure. Yeah. He on the team.
- [46:18]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [46:18]
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, yeah. Hey. It's like yes, son. He has snick. He had six snaps. Abdul Carter has six snaps in the preseason debut. Three snaps were rushing the passer. All three rushes resulted in the pressure and the hurry per PFF and next gen stats.
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N/A
Yeah.
- [46:34]
Ocho Cinco
So he did what he was supposed to do. He flashed. But like I said, I think the, the thing is with, with D line and they, they working on stuff. D linemen are basically like a wide receiver.
- [46:48]
N/A
Yeah.
- [46:48]
Ocho Cinco
Because he's setting you up for something that he's going to use at a later date and time. So if you think the move that you see that he starts the game with is the move that he's going to finish the game with, you're sadly mistaken. It's just like a wide receiver. If you think that route I ran on you to start the game is going to be the one I finish on you. You said I'm going to give you, I'm going to give you the illusion.
- [47:07]
Shannon Sharpe
And that's what I'm getting.
- [47:08]
Ocho Cinco
It's going to be that.
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N/A
Yeah.
- [47:10]
Ocho Cinco
But it's not going to be that.
- [47:12]
N/A
Yeah.
- [47:13]
Ocho Cinco
And Justin Fields preseason debut against the Packers. Field was ultra efficient. He was 3 or 4 on passing, 42 yards, ran the twice for 14 yards and didn't take a single sack. Feels orchestrated a sharp opening drive against the packers starting defense. Capping it off with a 13 yard rushing touchdown. This set the tone for an excellent preseason open for Aaron Glenn. Squad does feel remaining calm, composed in the control pocket. What do you think? Oh, do you think. Did you like what you saw from him tonight?
- [47:42]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Listen, we saw, we saw flashes of brilliance when he was with the Bears. We saw flashes of what he can do when he's with the Pittsburgh Steelers. So what we saw tonight night is what we expected from Fields. It's all about him just being consistent and being able to do it week to week to week. He's always wanted the opportunity to be a starting quarterback. I think he wasn't dealt a fair deal in Chicago because when you look at the Chicago Bears in that organization and the way they conducted and handled quarterbacks throughout the years, it hasn't been great at all. It hasn't been great at all. It just hasn't. Now things are a little different. Got Ben Johnson there, Caleb Williams. Things are different the way they're running the system. Obviously in Pittsburgh, Russ was promised a starting job. Russ gets hurt. Justin Field comes in. He plays phenomenal. He plays phenomenal. But obviously once Russ gets healthy, Russ. I mean, Justin Field is bench. Boom. Damn it. Can I just get opportunity. Can I get an opportunity to shine and show what I can do with the quarterback position? I can be quarterback number one if you put me in a situation that is advantageous for me and my skill set. Now that in New York, with a players coach that played the game and understands exactly what you can and can do and gonna do what he needs to do to make sure you're successful. You got Garrett Wilson, I don't know who, and I can't remember his last name. I meant to write it down. I don't know if it was a fullback that kept making those plays tonight or tight end. I think he wore 47. I think he was wearing 47. Hey, young bull popped out on film. He popped out on film to the point where. Well, I don't. I don't know who this is, but I guarantee you he's gonna have a starting job. I don't know if it was a fullback or a. But he was bowling.
- [49:22]
Ocho Cinco
Just had 403 yards total yards. Green Bay had two turnovers. Time of possession was 38, 41. Jets 21:19. First downs was 21 to 12 in favor of the Jets. Like I said, I think his name is J to Feli. He made a team tonight. He did.
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N/A
Yeah.
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Ocho Cinco
Two sacks.
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N/A
Yeah.
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Ocho Cinco
And he had a fumble recovery for a touchdown. Yeah.
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N/A
He gonna be all right.
- [49:55]
Ocho Cinco
Yeah. But I think that's. That's the key for him. The jets show that, show Justin Fields that they wanted him.
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N/A
Oh, yeah, yeah.
- [50:05]
Ocho Cinco
They gave a two year deal. They put him in.
- [50:07]
Shannon Sharpe
He.
- [50:07]
Ocho Cinco
He's the starter. They do have Tyrod to be his backup, but that's what he wanted. That's why he didn't go back to Pittsburgh. He said no. Y' all already showed me what y' all want. Oh, yeah, Y' all already did me. How y' all gonna do. Listen, you're not gonna do me dirty twice and.
- [50:19]
Shannon Sharpe
No, absolutely. Listen, Pittsburgh is a situation where there's a young lady that wants you. She wants you. She don't want nobody else to have you, so she put you in the friend zone until the dude, she really won't get his act together. Okay, Now I'M gonna put you off on the bench now. I'm gonna go deal with Russ. That's whatever. That's the situation last year.
- [50:37]
Ocho Cinco
Right.
- [50:37]
Shannon Sharpe
So listen, you get smart. That ain't the situation that's ideal for me and where I want to go. New York is perfect for him. He got somebody that actually wants him. When you have somebody that actually wants you, you're able to play freely, understanding. Okay. I don't have to look over my shoulder. I don't have the pressure of having to do everything perfect and do everything right. I can just play football.
- [51:01]
Ocho Cinco
That's the thing. And I think AG you know, it. They moved over Aaron Rodgers, basically for Justin Fields.
- [51:08]
N/A
Yeah. Yeah.
- [51:11]
Ocho Cinco
And.
- [51:13]
Shannon Sharpe
But he made it easy for him, huh, Rogers? Yeah, he made it easy. No, you have someone like AG AG Ain't playing with that. I'm not sure if I'm ready. I don't know if I'm buying in. I don't know if I'm be there for training camp. I don't know if I'm going to take a dark man. AJ ain't got time for that. I'm trying to change the entire culture. And I need players that are boarding. Whether you've been playing five years or we've been playing 20, I need you on the same page with me. And he just wasn't.
- [51:37]
Ocho Cinco
Only if you're a relative, do you have tolerance for BS As a person age?
- [51:42]
N/A
Yes, sir. Yeah.
- [51:44]
Ocho Cinco
You know, you. You a. If. If that person's not related to you, though, people like, yeah, man. You know, old people. And, you know, look at this juncture. AG Coming in as a new coach, he needs everybody to be bought in.
- [52:00]
N/A
Yes.
- [52:01]
Ocho Cinco
Aaron being as great as he is and being who he is, he can easily sway a locker room. So I think for AG Looking at it, like, for me to make sure I still have control of this locker room, let's just move on. Because I'm not so sure if Eric there was. There was something. Did AG Want to hear Aaron say something? Unless Aaron came in that thing turning back flips like, yes, sir. Let's. Let's go AG I'm ready.
- [52:30]
N/A
Right.
- [52:31]
Ocho Cinco
Unless he got that, they probably was going to move on anyway. Ojo. They probably gonna move on.
- [52:37]
N/A
Yeah. Yeah.
- [52:38]
Ocho Cinco
And. But hopefully Justin can seize this opportunity. Cause this is a perfect opportunity. Um, this might be the best opportunity because, you know, when he went to Chicago, you knew he was gonna be the starter. They just didn't have the pieces around him. And I don't know if that system was Conducive. And the coach was conducive. Now he has another defensive minded head coach. But I think AG has had an offensive guy that can put Justin Fields in position to be successful.
- [53:11]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh yeah, and listen, you would do. Let's understand what Justin Field has at his disposal over there with the jets as well. You got Breeze hall, you got brother, brother Allen. Allen, who looks like. Who looks like a Derrick Henry. Who looks the part. I mean, I'm not saying he's Derek Henry. I'm just saying they have a one, two punch at the running back position. We have one of top 10 receivers in the NFL depending on where you slay them at. Depending on where you want him at. And Garrett Wilson. Well, God damn. Who's the number two?
- [53:44]
Ocho Cinco
I don't know who they.
- [53:44]
Shannon Sharpe
Damn.
- [53:45]
Ocho Cinco
Who.
- [53:45]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, hey, Chat. Who's the number two at receiver man, with the Jets? It's. It's slipping my mind. Damn.
- [53:59]
Ocho Cinco
You think? I mean, hey, look, Alan Lazar. Still there. Alan Lazar. Josh Reynolds. Josh Reynolds. You remember Josh Reynolds. I think he played for. He played for the Rams. I think he was in like Tennessee. Was he or was he in Detroit? I'm almost certain he was with the Rams.
- [54:30]
Shannon Sharpe
So hold on. They get Alan Lazard and Josh Reynolds. So that's the, that's the two and the three.
- [54:34]
Ocho Cinco
And Gary Wilson. Yeah, okay, but he's trying to find out we know Gary Wilson, that we try to find the other receivers, but that is Josh runners that he's with the Rams. I think he's with Tennessee. Or did I say. Or was it Lions? Okay. Yeah, he with the Broncos. You like ag? You think AG is the right fit for the Jets, Ocho?
- [55:04]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, absolutely, absolutely. Listen, you. You need a player like that that can deal with that media. Forget in house. Forget the football stuff. Give me somebody with a mindset and a mentality that can deal with all the. And the stereotypes that come along with being the head coach in a market of that magnitude.
- [55:22]
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
- [55:22]
Shannon Sharpe
Once you get something that's ready for that. Okay, now I can work on everything else. I can work from the top on down. And AG's the right. Right player for that.
- [55:30]
Ocho Cinco
And he played in New York, so he definitely understands it.
- [55:33]
N/A
Yeah.
- [55:33]
Shannon Sharpe
But hey, listen, one thing about it, even though he played in New York, you understand how those newspapers are. You ain't getting no cut either. We ain't giving you no break either. Because if things ain't going right, we gonna hop on YouTube.
- [55:44]
Ocho Cinco
Yep.
- [55:45]
Shannon Sharpe
But hey, the newspaper. The newspaper outlets and media outlets are ruthless and I don't know who creates some of the headlines sometimes, boy, they so creative.
- [55:56]
Ocho Cinco
That's what they say. If you can make it in New York, you can make it anywhere.
- [55:59]
Shannon Sharpe
Anywhere. You can make it anywhere. Hey, hey, just sitting here talking about all this quarterback play, man, it just remind me of my day, man, at Beachhead, man. Remind me of my days at Beachide, man. You know, I was one of the best in the state, huh? Huh? You hear me? I wanted the best.
- [56:15]
Ocho Cinco
No, you one of the best delivery city.
- [56:17]
Shannon Sharpe
No, no, no, no. In the state. I'm talking about in the world. I was one of the best in the world. You know, it's funny.
- [56:23]
Ocho Cinco
Yeah. I'm laughing.
- [56:24]
Shannon Sharpe
For me to have played quarter at Miami be Senior High in 1996, I still remember my receivers, my number one and my number two. Dwight Stir and Richard Lucelle, my love. That's my little Zoe. Dwight. Dwight. I mean, Dwight was my homeboy. He was good.
- [56:39]
Ocho Cinco
Ooh, you think Joe Montana could tell you who his wide receivers were in college or in high school? Probably you only had two or three. Ocho. Damn.
- [56:46]
Shannon Sharpe
We probably can't but see my, my, my two. Dwight Stirrup and Richard Lucelle. That's my Zoe. Richard Lucelle. That's my Zoe. Stop, I say, Richard, if you see this, you know, hey, we was out there doing work. My. Hey, listen, my running back was Toby Wilson. Oh, my goodness. Boy, told by. Hey, he was. Oh, you should have saw me out there.
- [57:03]
Ocho Cinco
Okay, name the office of line. Name your five offensive linemen. @ Oregon. At Oregon State.
- [57:08]
Shannon Sharpe
At Oregon State. Yeah, I played receiver.
- [57:11]
Ocho Cinco
I don't know exactly. That's my point.
- [57:13]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, hey, I was running the office like this. Blue, 80 blue. Hey, Mike, you hot. You hot. You get two. You get two off the mic. You hot, boy.
- [57:27]
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, Chad, he ain't say none of that.
- [57:28]
Shannon Sharpe
Alert, alert, alert, alert, alert, alert, alert. And then I go to the gun.
- [57:32]
Ocho Cinco
Hey, you do none of that.
- [57:34]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, hey, Uncle, I used to be. Hey, I used to be killing that thing at quarterback. I had had on the number two, too. Hey, you got to remember, un. Remember, I was the baby when I was a freshman. D. Starks was the quarterback. Samari Row was a receiver. Terry Cousins was playing running back. So you gotta. You gotta understand.
- [57:54]
Ocho Cinco
Y' all won seven games.
- [57:55]
Shannon Sharpe
No, we. We was good. Now, hey, you gotta understand who we played seven games. Hey, we played against some good competition, man.
- [58:01]
Ocho Cinco
Well, damn.
- [58:03]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, Miami Northwestern, Miami Central, Edison High School. Them boy was stacked back then, bro.
- [58:08]
Ocho Cinco
I ain't hear none of them players. I Ain't hear none of them name. What? Y' all name all the guys that you name played in the NFL?
- [58:13]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, they did. I'm just, I'm just telling you the quality that my, my school had. We had good quality.
- [58:19]
Ocho Cinco
So what happened to the wins?
- [58:20]
Shannon Sharpe
Huh?
- [58:21]
Ocho Cinco
What quality? Tell me the quality wins. I know y' all had quality players. What about quality wins?
- [58:26]
Shannon Sharpe
Had some quality wins. Now I just don't remember the records from back then. That's a very long time ago.
- [58:31]
Ocho Cinco
You know your record. Were y' all 14 and 1? 15 and 0.
- [58:35]
Shannon Sharpe
13 and 2, obviously.
- [58:37]
Ocho Cinco
No, we weren't. Y' all lost to the state championship. Y' all lost in the semifinals. Quarterfinals.
- [58:42]
Shannon Sharpe
Damn. I can't remember, but I did score. Hey, listen, what I can tell you is I scored four touchdowns in one game, and nobody, nobody done that. Nobody scored four touchdowns in one game.
- [58:53]
Ocho Cinco
Did y' all win that game?
- [58:55]
N/A
Yes, yes.
- [58:58]
Shannon Sharpe
Matter of fact, we almost beat Miami Northwestern the year they won state. One of the greatest. One of the greatest high school receivers I saw with my own eyes. Marvin. Snoop Minnis, out of the Scott projects that played for Florida State, played with Kansas City for a little bit before he got hurt. Yeah, I've never seen nothing like Snoop Minis. Born high school. Oh, my.
- [59:19]
N/A
Yeah.
- [59:19]
Ocho Cinco
What am I supposed to do? We almost beat the team that won the state. What am I supposed to do?
- [59:23]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know.
- [59:23]
Ocho Cinco
I'm just.
- [59:24]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm just trying to. I'm just trying to relive my story of high school, that's all. I'm just. Hey, I'm just sharing that story. So we talking football? It's taking me down memory lane. Can we talk about the young Bulls that's going into the NFL? They got an opportunity to start at the highest level, and it just brought me back to where it all started, that's all.
- [59:39]
Ocho Cinco
Okay.
- [59:39]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm just sharing my feelings and my story. That's all. My bad.
- [59:43]
N/A
That.
- [59:49]
Ocho Cinco
Man, it suck. It's. It sucks being you. OO it sucks being old. You want to be young so bad to go back out there with the boys.
- [59:57]
Shannon Sharpe
N, I, I, I do. I'm do. Cuz, listen, I'm really not old. Like, I, it, it kind of, it makes me upset, and it kind of bothers me when people call me Unk and I think about it. Well, why you calling me Unk? And I look younger than you sometimes. Like, you know. You know, it's like, what you mean? Yeah, I mean, look at you. But you look 50, you look 60, you know, because you you drinking your life away and you're smoking and all that, but my body feel good, huh? You hear me? I ain't never been hurt. I don't have no injuries. I take care of myself.
- [60:28]
Ocho Cinco
You don't go back out there, you'll be hurt.
- [60:31]
Shannon Sharpe
You think so? I think, I think. I think I have the, the, the, the. The self awareness and the IQ to be able to protect myself if given the opportunity to play at the highest level.
- [60:43]
Ocho Cinco
You think so?
- [60:44]
N/A
Yeah.
- [60:45]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't. I might not have the speed. I still have my lateral movement.
- [60:51]
Ocho Cinco
No, it ain't the same.
- [60:52]
Shannon Sharpe
It ain't the same. But even if it's not the same, it's still better than what's out there.
- [60:56]
Ocho Cinco
No, it's not.
- [60:58]
Shannon Sharpe
You don't think so.
- [61:00]
Ocho Cinco
You done lost too much of it. Your spidey senses don't tingle anymore. Yeah, because they ain't been on, you ain't turned them on in a long time. It's like a car. You can have a madness car, you could have a Bugatti. Pay 6 bill $6 million for it. But don't let it run. Put it, put it in your garage and don't cut it on for 12 years, 14 years, 15 years.
- [61:20]
N/A
Right. You're right. You're right.
- [61:21]
Ocho Cinco
You think it's gonna crank?
- [61:24]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, it should. It should.
- [61:26]
Ocho Cinco
No, it won't. And then, and then you gonna have to. Then you have to go take it to the shop, get all the fluids flushed.
- [61:37]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, man.
- [61:37]
Ocho Cinco
You gotta realize, don't you? You haven't run like that. Yeah, yeah, like that. Like you used to run in a very long time.
- [61:45]
N/A
Yeah, you right, you right, you right. You're right.
- [61:47]
Ocho Cinco
I think there's a greater chance that you will hurt something than you go out there and look like your old self.
- [61:53]
N/A
Yeah.
- [61:54]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, hey. With a chat on my head, boy.
- [61:56]
Ocho Cinco
Hey, what they say?
- [61:57]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, they call you all kind of names. Chad Hurts, Chad Leaf.
- [62:07]
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, exactly.
- [62:07]
I
Hey, Chad.
- [62:08]
Shannon Sharpe
Chad Bledsoe. Chad DeVito.
- [62:15]
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, man. Ocho, did you see, did you watch any of the Rams Cowboys game? CD Lamb get rocked by the official on the sideline? He was watching Joe Milton throw a deep pass. But he's watching on the jumbotron, right? He knows that Joe Milton has an arm army. I think I saw something other than he threw it like 70, 75 yards. So he got his hands up. So he's watching. He's watching the jumbo chart like, yeah, this touchdown. Little does he know, he forgets that there's an off a side judge O.
- [62:44]
Shannon Sharpe
That's running, right.
- [62:47]
Ocho Cinco
And he hit him, man, he ran dead into the back of CD and you know, if you triple official, that's unsportsmanlike conduct.
- [62:55]
Shannon Sharpe
Wait, the official. Well, he wasn't on the field of play, so how could he be? How could he.
- [63:00]
Ocho Cinco
It don't matter. Didn't y' all have a get back coach telling y' all to get back.
- [63:04]
Shannon Sharpe
Get back, get back, get out the white.
- [63:05]
Ocho Cinco
Yeah. Cause what happens if you trip the official? That's a 15 yard penalty. That's exactly what CD got. He Lucky didn't get hurt. Cause he relaxed. Don't yo, he don't know the guy coming.
- [63:15]
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, right, Right, right, right.
- [63:17]
Ocho Cinco
Maybe that's a blessing and a curse because he was relaxed and he didn't tense up.
- [63:22]
Shannon Sharpe
Was this. This wasn't a touchdown, was it?
- [63:24]
Ocho Cinco
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
- [63:29]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, man.
- [63:30]
Ocho Cinco
But that, you know, that's why they have. That's what you. Now we call them the get back coach.
- [63:33]
N/A
Right, right, right.
- [63:34]
Ocho Cinco
Get back. Because you know, you got to give the official free run of the line, the sideline. Because if he. You trip him or something like that, Right? It's not like basketball that, you know, you can run into the official because the official is part of the court. You tripping. That's a 15 yard pillow.
- [63:51]
Shannon Sharpe
You got to get out the way.
- [63:52]
Ocho Cinco
Yeah. You got together. You got it. You're supposed to be five. You're supposed to. First of all, you're supposed to be five yards from the. From the sideline. That's what you're supposed to be. Because remember, they got the tarp, Ocho and the target. Yo, you got the grass and it's like five, four to five yards open space. And then you supposed to stand on the tarp. But you know, everybody be standing on the field.
- [64:13]
N/A
Yeah.
- [64:14]
Ocho Cinco
And that's when they get back. Get back. He was penalized for a foul on the official. I think it's a sports like condo up, but. Oh yeah, he definitely. Well, yeah, you can't go past the 30. You can't go that far down. He like Gilly. Remember Gilly had the book. Hey, Gilly running down the field score in the Philly game and then spike the ball.
- [64:41]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, that was funny.
- [64:43]
Ocho Cinco
Yeah. Hey, wallow. Say, man, cuz I don't think you supposed that did that. Yeah, yeah, but I mean, I've seen, I've seen, I've seen it called before.
- [64:59]
N/A
Yeah.
- [65:00]
Ocho Cinco
And CD had. No, I mean that Ocho, you know, that's the worst feeling to bump into something that you don't know that's there. You know, somebody, you know, you running, and somebody running. Running to you. Oh, my bad. Because. Oh, they used to be. They notorious for that on the football field. They catch you slipping. Oh, my bad shot. My bad. Don't open now. Don't you worry about it, bro. You right. Don't even worry about it.
- [65:24]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm gonna get you back. Don't worry about it.
- [65:27]
Ocho Cinco
If I don't get you up, man. Man, what was that for?
- [65:29]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh.
- [65:29]
Ocho Cinco
Cause he got me.
- [65:30]
Shannon Sharpe
Mm.
- [65:32]
Ocho Cinco
He got. I can't get him. Cause he. He's smart. He know he did some chicken ish. So I can't get him. You didn't know anything about it. So I can get you. Cause your guard was down. Gotta get somebody, Ocho.
- [65:45]
N/A
Yeah, you got.
- [65:45]
Shannon Sharpe
You got to.
- [65:46]
Ocho Cinco
I gotta get somebody. Somebody go get got, man. I ain't got nothing to do with that. Yeah, you do. Your teammate. You should. You should. He made a lot of the situation on ig, Ocho on his face. He posted cd, got decked by the real laugh. I feel like everyone needs to laugh.
- [66:07]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, that's fine.
- [66:08]
Ocho Cinco
He got you.
- [66:11]
Shannon Sharpe
He did.
- [66:11]
Ocho Cinco
He a. And yeah, that was an official. I mean, dude probably in his 50s, 40s, 50s. But the mere fact he didn't see CD, CD didn't see him. He probably was mad. Probably want to throw two flags on cd.
- [66:27]
N/A
Probably.
- [66:28]
Shannon Sharpe
And you know why? You know, you probably know why. Also, CD didn't get hurt. And because his body was relaxed, because something was coming.
- [66:34]
Ocho Cinco
He didn't tense up.
- [66:35]
Shannon Sharpe
Yep, exactly. When you always think about. I don't mean to bring this up, but drunk drivers. Do you always notice that the person that's always intoxicated the most, who's always in a relaxed state, in a high collision crash, for some reason, always walks away and never gets hurt.
- [66:50]
Ocho Cinco
You're right. You. You right.
- [66:52]
N/A
Yeah.
- [66:53]
Shannon Sharpe
I hate to use it. You can see the chat.
- [66:57]
Ocho Cinco
No, what is it? What they call you? Ocho Mahomes, man.
- [67:03]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, but it's. It's so funny. It's a Chad. Chad Orlowski.
- [67:19]
Ocho Cinco
You know, the chat. You can't let the chat look bad.
- [67:21]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, they on my head right now, man. Man, they on my head.
- [67:24]
Ocho Cinco
Shador said all the right things last night, as he as expected after a great preseason debut. Let's take a listen to what Shador had to say.
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I
Yeah, I mean, God's patient with us as humans. We mess up that times, but I don't feel like he throw us away as individuals. So it's different things and different life lessons, you know, you got to go through. And I haven't went through this situation, you know, that. That I'm in ever. So it's. It's really just a test, you know, I feel like from God or whoever it's from, it's just a test. But anyway, I'm just thankful that I was able to see the day of light and get out there and be able to play. So, you know, they didn't have to let me play. So anything and everything, you know, is good for me. So then, you know, the kids looking up, the kids definitely inspire me. Of course, more so. A lot of people incarcerated that definitely talk to their friends to talk to me, to tell me my friend from jail was, you know, watching you play and watching everything that's going on. So it's just like the world, you know, I say, is so small and everybody sees everything. And I'm thankful to be able to inspire people through everything, because the lady just told me now when I'm having a bad day, I just think about Shador. And I'm saying, I'm gonna act like Shador, you know? So, like, that's so cool, you know, to me, that I'm some form of inspiration.
- [68:55]
Ocho Cinco
J'. Adore. The only thing I'm gonna disagree with you. They had to let you play. Cause everybody else was hurt.
- [69:01]
N/A
Yeah.
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Ocho Cinco
Cause you ain't had no choice if they didn't let you play. They brought. They brought a guy in. They brought in Snoop Huntley.
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N/A
Yeah.
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Ocho Cinco
Cause Flacco wasn't gonna play, and the other two couldn't play, so. But you did your thing.
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N/A
Oh, yeah.
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Ocho Cinco
All you could control is what you could control. What you could control was how you played, how you handled the. How you handle the situation that you've been placed in.
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N/A
Yeah, he did.
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Shannon Sharpe
He did very well. He did a hell of a job.
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Ocho Cinco
He handled it well. He said all the right things. He did all the right things. And that's control what you can control, what you can't control. Don't worry about it. Control what you can control. He went through a storm, something he never. If you'd have told him a year ago, he would be in this situation where he's at right now. He wouldn't have believed it. His dad wouldn't have believed it. Nobody. You or I didn't wouldn't have believed it.
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Shannon Sharpe
No, absolutely not. Based on.
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Ocho Cinco
But you're here, man. Now it's. Forget how I got here. How you gonna get out of here?
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N/A
Yeah. Yeah.
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Ocho Cinco
Because a Lot of times, you know, we spent a lot of time with your man. How we got into the situation. You're in the situation now. How you gonna get out of it?
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N/A
Yeah.
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Ocho Cinco
And. And I think you've done a great job. Look, you know, I'm sure he talks to his dad. Dad. Even though his dad is not there, he still talks to his dad daily. Dad gives him great advice. He doesn't put any more on us that we can handle.
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N/A
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Absolutely not. And sometimes the situation they put you in, they're not advantageous for you. It's not the best situation for you because you got people in the situation. You win that don't even believe in you. And that's when it hurt worse. Most of the time, if you hear someone, oh, I'm a part of your organization, and you say, well, hell, I ain't want you, though. Yeah, that's. That's meant to break you. That's meant to break you.
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Ocho Cinco
You can't break what you didn't build.
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Shannon Sharpe
You're not.
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Ocho Cinco
You can't break what you can't create.
- [71:10]
Shannon Sharpe
Come on. Come on, now. But everybody's not built like that mentally.
- [71:13]
Ocho Cinco
You Right, true.
- [71:14]
Shannon Sharpe
In this era. In this era of. Of sensitivity and. Oh, he said this about me and. No, everybody's not built for that.
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N/A
That.
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Shannon Sharpe
That's meant to break you. And if they break you mentally, it affects what you do in between the lines on the green grass. But that's neither here nor there. He played well. The small sample size, we got to see a brother. Sanders, 12 look good. You look good.
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Ocho Cinco
You're right, Ocho. You're right. Everybody's every. I mean. I mean, sometimes. I mean, sometimes when things are not going your way and you feeling down. Yeah, man, it's hard to stay positive. And I think the thing, the best thing for him is that he has a dad that's really positive.
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N/A
Yeah.
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Ocho Cinco
He sees the positivity in everything, even when it's all negativity. He'll find something positive. He'll find something good to say.
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Shannon Sharpe
Thanos.
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Ocho Cinco
Ask Ocho. What do you want?
- [72:26]
Shannon Sharpe
Make him bark. Make him bark. Huh? Make him bark.
- [72:30]
Ocho Cinco
No, no, we don't want that. I tried to deter him from barking. And the thing is, I put Titus up, Titus asleep. So I ain't got to worry about Titus coming here and him growling and going crazy.
- [72:43]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, that's a good combination, boy.
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Ocho Cinco
And then I took the bones up because him and Teddy fighting over the bones. He wanted all the bones. He didn't want Teddy to have none. So he had three. I gave each one a bone, right? So he had his, and he bargained at Teddy's. So once I gave him. Once I gave him Teddy's, it was all good. So I just took all three of them. Cause he had two at first.
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N/A
First, right.
- [73:09]
Ocho Cinco
Teddy just had one, but he wasn't satisfied with that. He wanted all three. So I said, no, we're not gonna do that.
- [73:15]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, you gotta take.
- [73:16]
Ocho Cinco
We're gonna take the bones up for tonight.
- [73:18]
Shannon Sharpe
You got a little thug on your hands over there, man.
- [73:23]
Ocho Cinco
You want to go stay with Ocho?
- [73:25]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, yeah, Come on over here, Thanos. I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna take you down to the city, boy. Huh? They got a dog. They got a dog park downtown.
- [73:34]
Ocho Cinco
He said, I can go to the dog park. Yeah, he said, you know, I got. I got. You know, I had a little minor procedure about a month ago.
- [73:41]
Shannon Sharpe
Wait, what happened? Yeah.
- [73:44]
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
- [73:45]
Shannon Sharpe
What's wrong with him?
- [73:46]
Ocho Cinco
We got it fixed up.
- [73:48]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, why you. Babe.
- [73:50]
Ocho Cinco
He said. Look, he said he heard. He heard about them child support payments. He said he want none of that.
- [73:56]
Shannon Sharpe
No. Okay. Yeah, okay. Okay. Get out there and have a little fun, man. Yep. New girl.
- [74:04]
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, we ain't having no fun, but Shador looked good. He looked good. He looked really good last night. He spoke really good after the game. And the thing now is to build. Excuse me. Is to build on what he did last night. He also spoke about gifting teammates some new cleats. Check this out, Ocho.
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I
Yeah. I'm just excited for all of them. I gifted a lot of receivers. The. The Prime DT96s. You know, a couple of them had them on, so I just. I just gifted a couple of them, like, the main receivers going into this game. You know, I. I gifted them some cleats, some warm, some didn't. But I was like, okay, this is just my little appreciation gift to them because they don't be having a lot in stock, so I couldn't. I couldn't do everybody. I wish I could, but. Yeah, it's great.
- [74:55]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, the ones he won the game were dope.
- [74:58]
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, Those are the ones you talk.
- [74:58]
Shannon Sharpe
About in the game with the. They had the. The orange lining, like.
- [75:02]
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
- [75:03]
Shannon Sharpe
Color scheme, colorway. Yeah, they was nice. They was nice. I think, also as a receiver, but for me, I wouldn't want to cleat that heavy. No, the Dion cleats, I mean, they're. They're heavy even based on the way they're made, I want a lightest shoe as possible. So, I mean, they look good.
- [75:20]
Ocho Cinco
Time could have been out. Time could have been out there in Tim's and run four, three, three.
- [75:24]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.
- [75:29]
Ocho Cinco
But it. It all depends. I was a. You know, I will. I wore TD bottoms, okay? So I wore wide receiver cleats at.
- [75:40]
Shannon Sharpe
Tight end and tape your ankles. So you. So you was. You was good.
- [75:43]
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, because I'm a hard planner.
- [75:45]
N/A
Right.
- [75:45]
Shannon Sharpe
Me, even though I'm a hard planner, Unc. It's funny. Reebok obviously was Reebok back. Back then, right, dad? Reebok take all the lining out of my shoe. I don't want any support. I want my shoe to be just like a track shoe. Just like a track shoe. I need to feel the floor. I need to feel the floor when I stop, when I go, when I try to cut and transition. I don't want anything restricting my ankles when it's time for my lateral wound in. In movements. So all I had was the shell, some shoelaces and cleats at the bottom. That's it.
- [76:19]
N/A
It.
- [76:19]
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, that's it. But you always wore molded bottom. You didn't. You didn't. You. You wore a tempo bottom. Yeah. You didn't. You didn't. We. Are you. Yeah. You didn't wear seven studs.
- [76:28]
Shannon Sharpe
No, I had to have a choice but to wear seven studs when we played in Hines Field. I think they let the field be messed up like that on purpose.
- [76:36]
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, the bitties be soggy, huh?
- [76:37]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, my goodness. It's like. I don't know. I don't know. That was an advantage for them.
- [76:43]
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, for sure the advantage for them.
- [76:45]
Shannon Sharpe
But. Yeah, that's the only time I wore seven studs is when we played at Hines Field.
- [76:53]
Ocho Cinco
There's a video that's been making its way around, courtesy of Bucky, is him confronting Brown's reporter Tony Grassi for not having anything positive to say. Ojo, let's take a look at this video.
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N/A
Yeah.
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Ocho Cinco
I'll be hoping you got something positive to say about me. You always say.
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I
And I'm like, I ain't do nothing to you.
- [77:20]
Ocho Cinco
I ain't see nothing positive that you ever seen.
- [77:36]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, that's dope, Monk. I like it. I like it because most of the time those interactions like that, that's not how they go when it comes to players most of the time. When it comes to a beat reporter that's been established for that long as a Cleveland beat reporter, you know, when it comes to saying something negative, most of the time the player challenges him in that manner because you've never said anything positive. And I could just imagine. I haven't read any of the articles and I could just imagine if the rest of the world has been somewhat negative towards Shador. I could imagine what the person that's in house that sees him every day writes. So the fact that they were able to do it with a smile, with class, with grace and understanding. Well, God damn. Do you have anything nice to say? Because everything I've seen so far has been negative. I did nothing to you. But obviously the dude had the job to do. You understand how to get the views. You have to understand negativity. Negativity. It will create traction. Clickbait. How can I get people to read what I'm right. Where you talk negative about the biggest thing going on right now in Cleveland, outside of LeBron James when he was.
- [78:43]
Ocho Cinco
There right now, Shador Sanders, Robert Littell, Black Sports Online. Grassy has been like this for 30 years. Baker couldn't. Couldn't handle it. Couldn't. I guess he's saying Baker could not have handled it. Shador disarmed him in 60 seconds and changed his energy. Me, that's a gift not all people have for negative people.
- [79:06]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, listen, they'll smile. They'll smile in your face. They're smiling face. Obviously at that point and in that moment with Shador greeting him the way he did with class, with grace. But God damn. Are you gonna say anything? I'm just waiting on you to say something nice.
- [79:24]
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, something.
- [79:26]
Shannon Sharpe
So the guy has no. I mean, what can you say? Especially after that performance. Yeah, what can you say? And I know people say, oh, it's the preseason. Oh, it's a small sample size. Let's see what he does in the regular season. I mean, it's still. This is all we have to go off. So we're talking about what we saw in that specific case in that moment. I'm curious to what he wrote today because I'm sure he has something to say today.
- [79:53]
Ocho Cinco
I think it's different for a quarterback because, you know, the eyes are all on you.
- [79:58]
N/A
Yeah.
- [79:59]
Ocho Cinco
But I really never had no problem. I was seventh round draft pick. I wasn't supposed to be ish anyway. So anything that I gave. Anything that I gave him 20 catches, that was good.
- [80:07]
N/A
Yeah.
- [80:07]
Ocho Cinco
But as I got, you know, I had never had a problem with Mark Kisler, never had a problem with Woody Page. I never had a problem with who else? Jim Armstrong. He was a. He was a columnist when I was there. He was with the Indies. He was with the Indy Star. Now I forget his name. Shefter and I got to Denver at the same time Adam Schefter was reported in Denver.
- [80:33]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, well, Shefty been at this thing for a minute, boy.
- [80:39]
Ocho Cinco
Oh, yeah? Who's the guy? Buck for the Indy Star? Nah, he's the. He's the columnist. He's the big guy.
- [80:48]
N/A
Guy.
- [80:52]
Ocho Cinco
Huh? No, no, no, no, no, no. Who's the big. But he was in. He was in Denver when I was there, right? The first half. I hate when I can't. No, come on, Denver, help me. I know y' all in the chat.
- [81:33]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, somebody in the chat. Say, Teddy, look. I mean, Thanos look like a skunk.
- [81:37]
N/A
His.
- [81:38]
Shannon Sharpe
His colorway, Teddy. I mean, Thanos. I want to learn how to whistle like this, huh? You know how to whistle like this, huh? No, that should be loud as hell. I want to learn how to do that.
- [82:01]
Ocho Cinco
Probably too late now.
- [82:04]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, damn. I can't. It's too. I got. It's a certain age. Age.
- [82:10]
Ocho Cinco
Why you try to whistle like that now?
- [82:12]
Shannon Sharpe
Because I. I just. I just never. I just. I don't know. I'm going to a NASCAR event soon and I want to be able to make sure I could whistle like that at the NASCAR event I'm going to. They'll take.
- [82:23]
N/A
Oh, yeah, yeah.
- [82:24]
Shannon Sharpe
Remember I told Bubba? I told Bubba I was coming, so I'm actually coming. We got everything aligned, so I'm going down there. I got my. I got my. My flannel, my cut off sleeves. I got my Jorge. I'm serious. I got my jorts. I'm ready. The only problem is I don't drink. Long as they got hot dogs. And I'm gonna have my coke with no ice. Two hot dogs. Nice little date with my. My lady friend. I know she probably watching, man.
- [82:53]
Ocho Cinco
What's that guy? Hey, I can't think of his name, man.
- [82:58]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, Chat, I got a poem. Y' all want to hear it or you want to wait? You want to save it for later?
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Ocho Cinco
We're going to save it for later.
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Shannon Sharpe
Okay. Okay.
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Ocho Cinco
I'll think about it.
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Shannon Sharpe
All right.
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